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Speaker 2: Uh. First of all, Sean, how are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty good, Jeff. I had a busy Thursday.
I think. Yes, I've successfully cropped out my mountain of
laundry on my bed over there so nobody can see me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Judge, living that life too, Yeah, I got I have.
I've like I try to have, like cleaners come like
once a month or something, just because I things get
out of hand. I don't usually I end up canceling
because one it's it's a little expensive, but two I
don't have my house is not clean enough for the cleaners.
I'm trying to get it ready for tomorrow and it's
not ready, it's bad, and so I'm like, uh if
I just like, I'm like, that's the life I'm leading.
I cannot get my life together enough to have someone
else just make it nicee problems. I no, I I
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All Right, we have a lot to get into, so
we're gonna start talking about some of these stories right
after this. All right, let's let's start with Forts Horizon six. Yeah,
I've been playing it. It's it was it ninety one
and Open Creek earlier today. I haven't checked recently. I
imagine it's still somewhere around ninety ninety one and I'm
still okay, Yeah, you would know.
Speaker 3: I would bonus, baby, let's go.
Speaker 1: Got it in that Fantasy critic that was that does
it still feels like the safest bet in a lot
of ways. There are other games that are like maybe
score and higher, but they've dropped down. I think Forts
is going to settle in around A ninety ninety one.
Speaker 2: So I really like it. Sean, It's really really good.
Speaker 3: It looks like the Forts a lat people have been
waiting for, including myself, just a japan based one tokyo
you know, street racing and countryside mixed together. It's definitely
a setting people have been waying for a long time. Now.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's uh, you know, the Japanese setting. It really
does work for the most part. Look, it's still Forts
the horizon first, it's still like the the festival stuff first.
But then when you like go into these these regions,
they really do kind of hit you over the head
with the culture and they there. It's it feels a
little bit like a virtual museum or a virtual sort
of tourism thing where you can go to these regions
and you can collect these stamps or these add things
in your collection journal as you run over mascots for
each each region, and of course, like one of the
region's mascots is Ramen and another one is like at
a Mame and stuff like that, and it's like, oh,
it's oh, it's kind of like, oh, yeah, of course
I know that stuff's from Japan. It's like cool to
see like the part of Japan represented in this game
and then like play that stuff up and at all times,
Mount Fuji is in the background, and Tokyo City is
really kind of the densest city they've had so far.
Speaker 2: All that stuff really works.
Speaker 1: What really gets me with these games is they're just
as refined as they've ever been. They actually find ways
to make it better each time in a noticeable way.
This time it mostly just gets out of its way.
Let's you get right to the fun and kind of
have fun on your own terms. If you want to
be going race to race, it makes that really snappy.
If you want to take time to begin exploring the world,
it rewards you for that. Now, the progression is kind
of a lot of it is it's fake, like you're,
you know, you're upgrading your car, but your car just
like upgrades, so it's better at getting upgrades, Like like
the XP makes it so you can get XP faster,
and that's a little bit silly and circuitous, but it's
it still feels cool to upgrade the cars.
Speaker 2: It still feels cool to go knock over all.
Speaker 1: These signs and stuff and get you know, a bonus
three thousand XP and all I'm really looking for is
that excuse to drive cool cars around Japan, and it
just has that out the wazoo. So I've really been
enjoying it. If especially if, like you, people have skipped
the last one or the last couple, this one's gonna
hit really hard.
Speaker 3: I think it was a little disape because I'm a
huge fan of series. I love the Horizon games. Five
was a bit of a disappointment, and it's hard to
put into words why even I just remember playing and thinking,
I don't know, it's not appealing to me as much
this time, and that's maybe it's coming off of four,
which was just the best one at least up until
this point, bar and Away it was so enjoyable, and
then five was just like, eh, all right, that's whatever.
But then everyone seems to really be enjoying six. Here.
I did note. I read Lexi's review today and she
pointed out that there might be less of an emphasis
on street racing than you would expect for it being
centered around like Tokyo and everything. Did you find that
because like being made it seem like because it's still
forts a horizon, there's a blending of that with the
countryside stuff, so maybe like less of an emphasis than
you would imagine that game having.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like I'm not gonna know how to
pronounce it. I think they call them togue battles t
o g u E. That seemed to be like the
big showcase new style of race that is, oh, this
is steeped in Japanese culture, and these are one on
one street races down a mountain hill, down a mountain pass.
So you're like, initial, Yes, windy roads, it's all about drifting.
That that's the one that really gets the highlight here.
And even then it's pretty easy to sort of have
those fade into the background. Yeah, they all kind of
blend together. I think that's right. You would expect a
little bit more street racing. There are the street races there,
and they do like show like in the little like
icon for those races, they show the kinds of cars
you associate with Japanese street racing. You're like, Okay, I'm
gonna go get in one of those and do one
of those races. But then very quickly you're gonna spend
two hours doing all kinds of other stuff, although you're
gonna be able to go find more of those is
if that's what you really want.
Speaker 3: You for me, It's like it's like forts a Horizon
where they you know, it's one of the things that
you can do, but it is not emphasize anymore or
less that has right.
Speaker 1: It's still forts a Horizon first and foremost across the
board on all this stuff. Yeah, you know, the one
way it's not is that that the presentation of the
festival as like this social media gathering.
Speaker 2: They really did tone that down.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and I got the sense that, like, as
I was writing the review, it's like, oh, right, that
is just kind of you know, I'm not going to
paint Japanese culture with one broad brush, but you know,
social media behaviors are a little bit less popular in
Japan and look down upon it maybe a little bit more,
and so I think it was a good excuse for
them to, like, yeah, back away from that. This game
is not about gaining followers and all that stuff. It
is very much about you're going to Japan to hang
out with your friends and do cool car stuff, and
the game is better for that.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah I did. By the way, I did see Antonio
Morales asking chat should I pick up Forts if I
don't really like racing games. I've always said with Forts
of Horizons, specifically, do you like Tony Hawk, because the
Hordes of Horizon games are absolutely laid out like a
Tony Hawk game, where especially I'd have to see how
well this works in six. But one of the things
I loved about four was if you went off roading,
it suddenly just becomes a Tony Hawk combo where you're
chaining together changing ripping and jumps and sliding and so oh,
that's what I like to hear.
Speaker 1: There's more, there's fewer trees that will just stop you
in your tracks. There are still some, there's fewer than ever.
It's mostly just like the kind of the skinny trees
that pop out of the ground like dandelions. It's great.
Speaker 3: That was always the first upgrade I would get is
the one that doesn't nix your combo if you get
hit a tree one time, so I actually bank the combo.
But that's that's the fun of those games for me,
and it's always been a lot of fun doing that
open world Tony Hawk combos stuff across the countryside and
then bring it in and doing the street races, the
rally races, the big show piece moments, yes, showcases. Yeah, yeah,
the showcases. We basically yeah, Donald trailer, you race the Gundam,
So like that's the kind of thing that you expect
of this and seems really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah for me, it's like Forts Horison five.
I was enjoying just like, man, this is so great
to just turn my brain off and go driving. This
one has that and it just feels like, yeah, better
at that, even to go from a race.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, go ahead please.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I let my mind wander a little bit. You
were talking about the social media thing, and I thought, yeah,
you're absolutely right, because that does make sense. In Japan,
they're just more privacy conscious in general. I'm just like
not getting in people's faces aggressively about It's there's a
more of a polite culture as opposed to the places
in which forts Oriiza has been so far have more
like in your face festival culture, and so it makes
sense that like in those places you would be like, yeah,
we're social media influencers, film me a wicked video and
stuff like that. And then in Japan. It's like, Okay,
we're gonna it's there because you know, they still like
festivals in Japan. Ar they her it's a different style,
so we're gonna approach it differently. It's good to hear
that they did approach it differently. It doesn't feel like
a cultural clashing awkwardness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably would have been a cultural clash a
little bit in the game, or it would have been
maybe noted by people who are very who would recognize
that fact, I think. But it's the right choice for
the game as well. This is the right move the
game should move on from that. Social media as an
aspirational thing is over. No one feels that way anymore
for the most part, and so to make that like
the central core thing of your game would feel antiquated.
Speaker 2: So it's better for that for sure.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for me, it's like it's so easy to,
like I said, turn off my brain, tell have the
computer tell me what race to go to next, or
it gives me a list of races, and that gives
says two of them are recommended. I'll pick one or
the other which everyone's striking my fancy and sometimes I'll
fast travel, sometimes I will drive there across country, going
through the woods, chanting that stuff together, getting the kangaroo
bonus as I'm bouncing from one hill to the next.
Sean that stuff rules. Especially they give you a fortsa
edition Subaru at least then the version that gave me
it might be it might be locked behind some upgraded
path or something like that. But this upgraded four by
four lifted Subaru that gets a bonus as a wrecking ball.
So when you're doing destruction you get a bonus. And
so it's just like, yeah, that I could just see
that number going up faster than with any other car,
and that feels really good. But as I'm doing that,
you know, the little mini map has all the icons
on it. If I see a sign, I'll stop and
knock it over. If I see a mascot, I'll stop
and knock it over. And then I'll see a you know,
a speed zone, and I will spend an hour trying
to get the fastest possible speed on that. And then
by the time I'm done doing that, it's all right.
Time to go back to the races. And it's uh,
that loop is immaculate here. They just really really nail it.
Speaker 3: I think the million dollar question is how will everyone's
drive guitars act in this game? Because let me tell you, Jeff,
your drive guitar, do you know what's behavior is?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: My understanding is my mind is a real asshole. Everyone
everyone's just.
Speaker 3: A real piece of shit. You constantly ramming people and stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't get.
Speaker 1: But because it combines it from all the forts of
games and in the forts of motorsport games, I am
a clean driver. I am like I never want to
run into anything.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the.
Speaker 3: Horizon will lean into what you do in the Horizon games.
Speaker 1: Though you would imagine so, and like I try, I
still try to. Like at a certain point though, you
just give up, like whatever, I'm trying to win this race.
If I bump into someone, I'm gonna go for it,
I give you. Yeah, yes, I uh, I definitely enjoy
just seeing my friends at drive guitars and stuff like that.
Right now it is Patrick Kleppik who's being a real dick.
Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure? All right?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: From Software Slash Katakawa.
Speaker 1: They Katakawa, who is the parent company of from Soft
where had its earnings report and there were some tidbits
in there about from Software. From Software is going to
release the Dust Bloods in twenty twenty six still according
to this earnings report, also, they said that from Software
will lean into self publishing internationally. What that means is
they are not necessarily going to run to the Activisions obviously,
or Bandy Namco even or Sony to put their games
out in other places.
Speaker 2: They have had enough success.
Speaker 1: And have enough money now to handle that themselves, and
they're going to ramp up those efforts.
Speaker 2: That makes sense to me at this point.
Speaker 1: It seems like frequently From Software has been in a
situation where they work with a publisher and something annoys
them and they have a falling out. We kind of
have a good sense that that has happened with Sony.
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened with Activision because
it's Activision. Why not just do this yourself and then hey,
Dusk Bloods this year. I'm hoping. So, Sean, what do
you think the chances are of that?
Speaker 3: First real quick Chrishan had a really good joke in
chat saying that your drive guitars like that has always
on its phone.
Speaker 2: Yes of course. Yeah. Secondly, focus on driving crazy This
makes a lot.
Speaker 3: Of sense, I think, because they are at the point
where the Souls games in general, everything that they're involved
with over there at from they are massive. At this point,
they have definitely broken through. It's so interesting to watch,
you know. I've been going down the list of what
happens from me MC muscles, watching the ones that I
missed over the years, and I never watched the Demon
Souls one, and watching that the other night and reminding
myself of, like, man, Demon Souls, nobody cared about that,
like it was a nothing ass game that.
Speaker 2: It was really funny at the time, struck real quick.
Speaker 1: I worked at I volunteered at bit moob at the time, right,
the editors there all loved Demon Souls, and they talked
about it all the time, and they would try to
talk about it like to the audience, and the audience
like shut the fuck.
Speaker 2: Up, we don't care. Yeah, it was. It's so funny
to think back to that now.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, go ahead, but but the funny thing is
eventually an audience picked it up and like got really
into it, and I was like, oh wait a second, no, no, no,
this is like the the f you challenging games that
we remember from back in the day, you know, if
you were sitting age and yeah, like nys her and stuff.
Oh they're bringing that bag, that's what this is. And
then it just very organically grew over time and grew
and grew and grew until now, like everybody, everybody I
know has at least played a Soul's game. So many
people loved alden Ring. Like the kind of person who
I talk to or hang out with, who is like
usually the h the call of duty here and there person,
or like the sports game person or the uh even
if you're in the like I play RPGs, and that's
a person everyone's played alden Ring. So like it makes
sense said that success would translate into the wanting to
explore things like the publishing and they don't have to
rely as much on a company to get them money
to get this stuff out there. We've been seeing this.
We talked about this. I think we talked about this
not too long ago, about like indie studios starting to
prop each other up a little bit and the successful
ones starting to get into publishing and stuff. Yeah, it
makes no sense that from software would be exploring that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a reason that every single one of these
companies like Worts with both publishing at the very least
and at the very very least with self publishing, like
that is you know, cutting out that middleman, getting more
of that cut for yourself, not having to worry about
a situation where you're getting upfront money and on the
day one of sales of your video game you don't
get paid until that money is paid back to the publisher,
which is often the way these deals work. Obviously, from
Software is going to get sweetheart deals. They are a
studio everyone wants to work with, even in their case,
if you can, you do it, and you know it's
going to lead them down a path of them able
to really kind of control their marketing, control a bunch
of stuff. Watch Sean, you're making a face.
Speaker 3: What did you do to Mike?
Speaker 1: Look what do you talk? I'm here with you, Sean. Look,
I hit the Apple button. Don't tell them everybody, I'm
it with someone else. I think it was Mike Maharty
blame Dib. Yeah it was Dip again. Uh, it's very
It's it's funny. I'll be like I won't do it
sometimes and I'm but I was fucking grub. I know
it and I'll get so mad. I'm like, I would
never I do it all the time. I don't know
why I'm so offended. Uh all right, Yeah, this is
the kind of thing that I think it's cool to
hear from software can totally control its own destiny. Dusk
Bloods later this year also still sounds pretty reasonable. If
the rumor is true that elden Ring Tarnish Edition is
coming out here real soon, and which it seems like
it might be out by like July maybe August. That
feels like one we get to in Nintendo Direct here
soon they give us a date and that date is
very very quickly after that direct. Does that sound right
to you?
Speaker 3: I'm curious why you framed it that way. Actually, are
you saying that like elden Ring would be like a
priming the pump kind of thing, and then that's a
good sign.
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to be in a situation
where like elden Ring is hanging over their head or
I think they want to get that out and establish
that they know how to work on the switch to
I'm probably overthinking it a little bit there, but that's
the sense time have.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if both these projects are you know in the
pipeline almost like a like it was for a little
bit there with Atlas and Person of three Reload d Metaphor,
which came out the same year of Like, Hey, if
we hear news about one these, it's probably a good
sign that, you know, progress is being may on the
other one, they're just ready to release games. If yeah,
elden Ring is coming out here soon. Here it's like, yep,
don't worry, the games are coming out, and then dust
Bloods follows that. Who knows, like thread to six months
afterwards or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly, all right, let's uh talk about Subnatica two
sells one million copies in the first hour after launch.
I think they might be getting their bonus over there. Yeah,
there was a lot of pent up demand for this game.
It is, uh yeah, it's something like five hundred thousand
good currents. I actually did not keep up with that today.
I wonder if that number was much higher after what
I saw. That'll make it one of the biggest launches
of all time on Steam. And it seems like rightfully
so games got very positive reviews so far. At least
that that was early on, so that could have changed
as well, who knows, Brander k awesome, I'm gonna start
this thing. I'm gonna do some grub Nautica looking forward
to it. But yeah, I mean, this feels like, hey,
this is where we're at where, especially the sequels to
indie games that were beloved when they have their follow
up they hit so hard on Steam right now and
thinking Slay the Spire two.
Speaker 2: Now, this.
Speaker 1: Like there is a way to sort of get an
audience on Steam, build it slowly over time, through sales
and all this other stuff, and to really really like
hit the next home run with your sequel that you
could spend a lot of time making because your first
game's making money that whole time. It's not a business
model that's going to work for every indie studio because
you have.
Speaker 2: To have that first hit.
Speaker 1: But if you have a hit, it's like this pathway
to the mountains of gold on Steam.
Speaker 3: It feels like, Yeah, this feels like it feels like
an audience I'm completely separated from. I don't really know
what the hell Subnautica is, frankly, but what I do
know is that people out of nowhere have mentioned it
to me. I'm like, oh the hell do you know
what Subnautica is. I've never even played that, and yeah,
it was a game pass game where it's like, you know,
I got for cheap or whatever like that. And yeah,
I definitely think this is one of those situations where
people latch onto it because I think it's doing some
really cool stuff. Maybe just because it's not over complicated.
You just like go there and have an interesting experience,
and then you want more of it so you come
back for the next one. That's what we see with
stuff like Hollow Night, and you know, Hollow Night really
finds that audience breaks through to the mainstream and Silk
Song comes along. People love Silk Song. I'm sure like
the next Stardoo Valley, while we have like the Haunted
Chocolate Tears maybe or maybe not coming out someday, but
that's gonna pop off whenever that comes out, too. So yeah,
that's right. Sounds yep exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, And honestly, that's a situation where it's
like you just keep up dating Starduo Valley. That game
is sold like fifty million copies or something insane shit
like that.
Speaker 2: That's uh, that's nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Subnatica two. Yes, people play it's like an underwater
tree puncher game. Yeah, you're gonna like build, get resources,
be able to build more stuff so you can go
even further, get even more resources.
Speaker 2: It's that loop.
Speaker 1: For the most part, I've only played a tiny little
bit of Symnautica one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people, these games are capable of breaking into something
of a mainstream like these are not niche anymore. They
are able to get an audience, and that audience will
include people that would surprise you, and at least at
least it surprises me often.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we are. I mean, I had to play
a lot of forts.
Speaker 1: Now I'm kind of done with that, not really don't
want to keep playing it, But now Simnatica two is here,
I'm gonna try to get over to that and make
that my next game. Okay, all right, and then Resident
Evil Code Veronica remake. The rumors around that as usual
from Dusk Golam, who is a Capcom leaker. Yeah, Dusk
Gollum is. He's saying that they are going to lean
back into the horror elements for this one in a
big way. That Capcom has data that when Resident Evil
is scarier, it does better and people like it more
and that's the plan this time around, which is just
a little odd, not totally odd, because Code Veronica does
have a lot of the stuff that can be scary,
but it's also a pretty cheesy, hokey soap opera of
a game, and so it's going to be interesting to
see how they sort of adapt all of that. And
the good news there is they have so much material
to work with they will be able to pick and
choose what they need to get it would get done
what they need to get done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do think Code Ronca, like you said,
goes above and beyond on some of that cheesy, campy
horror stuff. But you know, it's not to discount the
fact that the original trilogy, whether they were intended to
or not, we're pretty seasy and camp be as well.
So I think they'll translate that well with cove Ronka.
My theory as to why the scarier ones do well
is because they're streamer bait. You see your favorite streamer
playing them and like throwing the controller across the room
because I'm scared of shit out of them. They are,
like I'm experiencing that for myself, and then it ends
up doing really well so it makes sense that they
would lean into that, I think, and I just look,
I'm kind of a resideval mood right now. I played
an Ari four remake and that game's incredible. Requiem a
little bit lower on than you and Mike, but I
also really enjoyed that one. So I am in the
mood to play another one of these in a way
that I wasn't really in the mood. Ethan Winter Saga
never really appealed to me, Like, yeah, really tripling down
on the more indie style horror of the time and
trying to really get you a shit you're pants scared
never really did anything to me. For me, I should
say never did anything to me either, because I didn't
really play them. But yeah, I'm looking forward to the
Cover Roka remake and if they do Zero as well,
and maybe one apparently again.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that does seem to be the little bit
of the roadmap there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Dustculum also pointed out that Requiem was kind of
made before they were really solidifying a lot of this data,
and so when they were making it, they kind of
deliberately made it a smorgas board of I'm not probably
not saying that right, Smorgasborg smorgasboard of all the resident
evial stuff, and they're like, hey, yeah, this is gonna
We're just gonna throw it all in there.
Speaker 2: And I like it because of that.
Speaker 1: But it's clear after I got finished with it, and
I've gone back to replay it a couple of times,
the gray stuff, the scarier stuff, is when it's at
its strongest, and it just feels right for that series.
So them sort of finding that as the pathway forward,
especially for these remakes, that's such a good idea. It
feels like for what requa for what Coke Roonica could be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, oh yeah, god, please did you see
I just wanted to really quickly. Did you see the
Xbox controller stuff today?
Speaker 2: There was Yeah, No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: Someone mentioned there was some cloud controller stuff and then
I think someone said it looked bad, and I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I did not check.
Speaker 3: Here. I can pop these in. I'll pop these in
the YouTube chat two post from Warrio. The first one
is apparently the cloud gaming controller of the decade one.
It looks kind of like, uh, the layout is almost
like a boxy Sega Saturn controller in a way, not
in terms of buns, but it's like the overall shape
is kind of like that. I don't know exactly what
they're thinking with that one. I can only assume it's
because they want to be portable so you can take
it between rooms. It looks a little odd. I'm not
sure what the approach is there.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then the other one is apparently the Xbox Elite
three has been linked as well with what I can
only describe as an offensive BP pad. Jeff, this thing
is just an affront to God because it looks like
what if we took like the Apple TV Circle navigation thing, Uh,
put some raised bumps on so you shred thumbs when
you try to use it. And yeah, I don't know.
This one looks weird.
Speaker 1: Bars on the bottom.
Speaker 3: I assume that's for stick tension. That's my assumption. I
think we don't nobody knows what that is yet, but
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm currently because they're not, excuse me, it's not
like in a usable place like during during normal use.
Speaker 3: So also I noticed I noticed the the lettering on them.
Between both of these, the lettering is different. And this
is just like something out of if you've not sasl Xbox
seems to be like prying for a design overhaul because
they're also going for really glassy elements with what they're
adding to the Xbox UI now, with like the new
logo and so I see someoney. Even Chad has like
the updated logo for their profile picture there. I don't know,
I'm I'm. It makes me more and more curious what
their approach is for this next generation, doubling down on
controllers that apparently can connect directly to the cloud for gaming,
and then Project Helix being a weird PC console hybrid.
I'm really curious for a lot of what Xbox has
for this next generation, because we could even hear a
little bit about this as soon as SGF this year.
Probably won't get a proper reveals until next year, I
would assume, but it feels like things are starting to
ramp up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was that talk years ago now under
Phil Spencer that they wanted to have a controller that
maybe included some of the futures that were in the
dual sense.
Speaker 2: I wonder if they are going to stick with that.
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like there's a ton of demand, But I
definitely I wouldn't mind some of that stuff just to
have it as an option. I just don't want it
to be the reason the controller cost one hundred and
twenty dollars or whatever, or like a standard controller. Obviously
the elite is going to be expensive. But yeah, I
think the deepad looks rough. Man, that patent's over. You
could just do the Nintendo deep ad.
Speaker 3: People pointed out on Blue Sky that there probably is
swappable deepads.
Speaker 2: The definitely will be yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like if this is the one that's
supposed to be for like fighting game players, No it ain't.
Speaker 2: No, yes, for fighting games.
Speaker 1: All right, cool, well we'll keep track of this, I'll yeah,
go ahead, Christians.
Speaker 3: Is this there like Stadia controller?
Speaker 5: Remember the Stadia controller were like you moved from TV
to to like your iPods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the idea exactly.
Speaker 3: Yes. Oh yeah, Jeff, did you ever convert your Stadia
controller to the Bluetooth only?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, yes, you know, I don't know I start
even know why because I'm probably never ever actually gonna
use them that way, but I have them in case
I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it with the plans to bring them
for uh and.
Speaker 1: I might have actually brought them to the Bomaiton, but
I don't remember exactly. All Right, let's see, you're going
to get back over to the doc. Let's take a break.
We're gonna come back and read some super chats right
after this. All right, we are back, Sean. Let's get
to those super chats please absolutely.
Speaker 3: First up is from Drachi cargo pants, no cargo room.
Speaker 2: Fuckf that's pretty all right, I'm stealing it.
Speaker 3: Pretty good, not bad, not bad.
Speaker 2: I can't like it, oh man.
Speaker 3: Next is from James Pies. My Mets swept the Tigers today, Christian,
your Yankees are on notice. I hear bus has some
good top golf adjacent spas if you like to wager.
Oh my god, I want.
Speaker 5: To say I watch. I watched a little bit of
the game of the Machi the lost. So if I
I'm not gonna watch it tomorrow, if they win tomorrow,
then it's like it's.
Speaker 2: Been the last baseball game you ever watch.
Speaker 1: The Tigers are on a terrible loosing streak, and I mean,
what the bright side is that Derek Scouble There's say
wan two times back to back Cy Young winning baseball
Pitcher is injured and it's gonna be out for months,
so fuck everything.
Speaker 3: Uh, next is from Let's see. Next would be Missouri, Matt.
Thank you, Mike and Jeff for the content. Have you
ever got shit faced at putt In Bay.
Speaker 2: Put In Bay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes I have, but not for a very long time. Honestly,
it's probably been like almost twenty years. I went to
go hang out and put In Bay back when I
lived in Columbus. I'm much closer now and I haven't
been there. Well I know, I haven't been ship faced there.
I'm a dumb ass dad with no time, but I
will try to get out there at some point. It's
one of those things. I'm like, oh maybe we like
we depending on where we go for the road trip.
Maybe we can go to put In Bay.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 3: Okay. Then's pixels and thoughts. Uh subscribed at the Lincoln
Tier or Joint. Thank you man, Thank appreciate that much.
Then Zombie Porin is here to say Mike is already
taking stuff out of the hat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll deal with that soon enough.
Speaker 3: Antonio Morales is next. How are y'all watching both shows?
Speaker 2: The hall looks?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Everyone, you do what you gotta do. But thanks for
hanging out with us. I get it.
Speaker 3: There's two windows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got a browser. Just open up two windows.
Speaker 3: You know. It's kind of funny. I feel like Mike's
actually in his element doing the marathon in the evening.
It's almost a little games done quickish. We're like people
just tune in all evening long and then just like
pop in here for a break or whatever, put.
Speaker 1: It on my TV and stuff. Yeah, absolutely good stuff. Yeah,
he's doing great over there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm loving it.
Speaker 3: And then Zombie poor in his back. Might be my
fault for that one.
Speaker 2: Llll wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Zombie, gotta stop getting everyone to yell hat
at the drop of a hat.
Speaker 3: Then Leux Ladie is here. Mount Rushmore of racing game
licensed cars.
Speaker 1: Oh wow wow, okay, I mean for me, one of
them would be the Beetle from Beatle Adventure Racing.
Speaker 3: The Ferrari from Ferrari. Where are the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is what are the there's like licensed cars in
Hot Pursuit, right maybe I mean and all of them
aren't there, uh yeah, but like the ones, the ones
on the cover of Hot Pursuit would be like Mount
Rushmore worthy, I would say, Okay, yeah, I don't know
this is that's that's a tough one.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Hey, maybe we can come back to that one.
Speaker 3: Okay. I'm an arcade racing person, so for me, it's
just like I'm so used to the all brand stuff
and other thing I'm not sure I can name them specifically,
right for sure? Then? Is from Laushin is up next?
What handheld should I take with me on my trip
along the PCH PS portal? Switch switch to steam Deck
or three DS or combine two of them? Yes, I'm
crazy like Jeff Well. Definitely not the PlayStation portal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess I've never really talked to
many people who have done the PS portal remote play.
Speaker 2: I know it's supposed to work, but yeah, I just
wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: The only story I've ever heard from someone trying it
outside of their home is when Tam talked about playing
it for the first time. They said it just didn't
work right exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, yeah, I don't know, switch to and steam
Deck is going to have you completely covered?
Speaker 2: Maybe pictures one of those and go, yeah, problem, it
just just the three DS.
Speaker 3: The three DS, I mean that's the that's the gamer move.
Did you see today the Pokemon Snap for three DS
of people made? No, it's a fan game. It's not
like a port or anything. They like made the game.
They remade it apparently using I think the N sixty
four assets, but remade it in unity for the three DS,
and so it's like aa from the ground up version
made for that platform. It's kind of cool, like that
sounds really cool to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have like three D like stereoscopic three
D and everything.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I believe it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be cool for that game.
Speaker 3: Right, I want to check that out.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Then is from Chrono rig If you can go back
in time and record your reaction to an old games
trailer of reveal, what would you pick? I would pick
for you Twilight Princess.
Speaker 2: Oh you would for me? You would pick Twilight Princess.
Speaker 1: Okay, I would. I would enjoy that. I would like
to go back and react with the win Waker one
so I could call those people whining about it dipshits
to their faces.
Speaker 2: That's the energy I like to bring.
Speaker 3: It's not an old game at this point, but I
wish I had recorded myself watching the E three that
revealed Metroid Dread. Oh yeah, the way I always tell
this story. I think I've told once a while back,
but I made a sound I never have made I
never will be able to make ever again, because I
was just like, oh my god, it's a new two
D Metro. I know we had say answer Jerns, but
it was a new one. And then when they dropped
the name Dread, I like practically fell out of my
chair because I was like, dude, I was watching with
a friend, you don't understand what this means the name.
They brought the name back.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, that was an insane moment to see that
and like have them just straight up they always said
that would drab to call it Metrod five or whatever.
Speaker 2: It is, yep, amazing stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, it was cool to I remember
when I was a kid when it Square Nix did
that Final Fantasy seven like like remake, but it wasn't
a Remy was just like we're just showing the engine
that they didn't see ship. They were making it. They
were making fun of Fantasy seven and no, it wasn't that.
It was just like this is Orange World the PS three,
Like motherfuckers, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went back and watched that, and they just
like they did explicitly call it was like Final Fantasy
seven tech demo for PlayStation three, and like apparently like
if you were in the room or something, they like
were like, yeah, this is what like a game could
look like on the PlayStation three. But everyone, of course
just assumed. They were like, if I sound on PS three,
this is gonna be sick motherfuckers. Hey. Eventually we got, uh,
zombie Porin is back. What is the over under in
Chinese handhelds that grubs cleaning person will find? I think
three point five is a good over underline, but I'll
still take the over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it could be.
Speaker 1: It could be oh okay, never mind, it's over all right, yeah,
it's over yeah.
Speaker 2: In this room alone, basically I could see like four yeah.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: In my vision right here there's four. Uh and yes,
and I know there's more behind me.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 3: God. I was gonna say, it depends on what you
define as fine. If it's like in a couch or
something like that, If that's what we're saying, fine, maybe.
Speaker 1: Not maybe like two at that point, not in a couch,
but on a couch.
Speaker 3: The little key chain one is like under the bed
or something exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, because you're talking about hiding your shame.
That's what I assume we're talking about when you're you're clearing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got right. That's the biggest shame of the handhelds.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then from Jacob Bench, Hey, what's up? Bench? Uh,
finally made the jump to PC with a fifty to
eighty build. Congrats. It now feels like I can never
go back. Did you have a similar experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of, I did it, Like I really made leap,
like in the middle of the PS four Xbox one
generation when I was really sort of disenchanted with those consoles.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Was definitely a situation where it's like, oh, okay, I
think my first computer had a nine to eighty TI
in it or something like that. It was just like, yeah,
this is fantastic, And it was like I still liked
consoles for what they were doing, but it's like it
did change me forever where it's like, oh, I might
be PC first from here on now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Same, that was the generation that did it for me.
I've always had a or not always since I was
a kid, I've had a PC in my life that
I used to play video games.
Speaker 2: Same.
Speaker 3: It was always like an older PC though never anything like.
Speaker 2: That gave me laptops before it for the most part, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Like I remember growing up, we had like
at first, it was like a Windows ninety eight era
machine that I got on the early two thousands that
I like would play you know, GTA three on and
stuff like that. Like that's sort of separation there, And
it was going into the PS four generation where I
was the person my friend group would ask like, okay,
so what do we get this generation? Are we sticking
with Xbox? Because the one looks a little funky? But
do we stick with it? Do we jump ship to
PS four? And when we had a discussion about this one,
I was like, guys, like because we were going into
college at that point, I was like, guys, I think
we go PC. And they were all kind of looked
at me, like what do you mean. I was like, no,
Like these consoles kind of suck, and Steam does put
out this thing called Big Picture Mode, so it's just
like a console UI for your PC now, and our
entire group has been PC first ever since because PCs
were affordable to build, and they were rapidly advancing at
that specific points. I remember, I think it was like
a it is PC Gamer or something where I saw
the headline and Vidia's new ten fifty runs tightan fall
better than the Xbox One for one hundred and fifty dollars.
I was like, this is it. This is the point,
this is where we jump on and we haven't looked
back since. So yeah, needs, It's a similar experience where
I still have consoles I need, and some older consoles
for playing stuff on original hardware, But in general, I'm
PC first. It's great for deem games, it's great for
emulation stuff. It is I think you'll be happy with
that bench.
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm happy for you. It's it sucks that computer's
got so expensive. Affordable computing was a little was quite
a bit different a few years ago, but I'm glad
you're you're on board.
Speaker 2: It's still it's still.
Speaker 3: Awesome, exactly, It's awesome wherever you can get in turn
stings down. If you need two folks, you know, you know,
need max settings.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3: Then Antonio Morales is back. Hiring cleaners was a big
mistake on my part because the wife liked it way
too much. Now she wants them to come once a month.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Steph doesn't like when they come because it's
like stressful to get into the house ready to make
sure that they can do their cleaning. So usually, and
it's like, yeah, again, it's expensive. So I'm like, I'll
just cancel it. That's fine.
Speaker 3: Do you have to pay if you cancel it?
Speaker 1: Not if I give them enough head like heads up,
so okay, yeah, I try to give him like three
days heads up, all.
Speaker 3: Right, not listen too much then. Uh then the drum
kid rub I bought an al Tech Yeah al Tech
matt today because of you. I'm gonna get hot again
by swimming the pounds off. Pray for my toes pengus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, be careful, I uh I might. Yeah. I checked
it again after I had it bandaged up.
Speaker 1: I cut myself on my at this today because I
was playing without shoes on, like a dumbass. But I'm
doing much better. I'm gonna be dance again tomorrow. Uh yeah,
I still love it. It's awesome. I'm really happy for you.
Enjoy it and you know, hook it up your computer
play step Mania. But you can plug this thing into
old consoles. I think it works with misters, So however
you want to use it, you should be able to
get some enjoyment out of it. But man, step Mania
is just so convenient being able to download all those
song packs for all the games and then all the
community song packs. I was dancing to you know, Barkerville
this morning and a bunch of other stuff Toky Mecki Memorial.
Never played it dancing songs from that game all the time.
That's a good time, man, let's go. Yeah, yeah, some
great music from Konami in this game for sure.
Speaker 3: Obviously love rhythm game so much. Me and my friends
got super into rock band back in the day. Yeah,
and when I came back with a rock band four,
we got really into again. I need to picked up
some of those, Like Riffmasters are one of the well
I think that's PDP and then Cracked or however pronounced
c r kd uh. They I need to pick up
some of those because they have Like there's an anniversary
Cherry Red SG that I want to pick up. I'm like, oh,
that looks pretty nice. It'd be great to get back
to a guitar hero and rock band again.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, Rhythm games are the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Then from the Bulletproof Moon. Everyone needs a homie
who has a micro screwdriver set, one dollar ribbon cables
and some spare time. My steam deck lives again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, happy for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that thing's easy to repair, so I'm glad that
was able to get done for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what we talked about with your Steam
controller review. It's it's nice when your electronics are repaarable
because then even for simpler stuff, you yourself can just
bust out screwdriver and like replace us springs.
Speaker 2: It's going to be super simplest.
Speaker 3: It's really satisfying. We do it yourself. And then last
for now is from super Blasts. How do you keep
it up? My nerds? A Parenthese's affectionate.
Speaker 1: Thank you, super Blastics. I appreciate it, and thanks everybody
for the super chats. All right, thank you, Sean. Let's
take another break. We'll come back and we'll all right everybody,
we are. We're back and it is time to get
some questions or you know. The hat holds many things.
Most of them are pieces of paper that say what
is the greatest blank? And then he fills in some blanks,
he being Mike, and then you know the community has
offered some stuff, but we don't have access to that hat.
Only Mike Manatti has access to that, to that and
he's uh you can see down there if you're watching. Uh,
he's playing Donkey Kong. Uh so uh yeah, we he
looks like he might be pulling the hat right now.
Let me go ahead and unmute him. See if I.
Speaker 2: Do you guys hear that?
Speaker 1: You guys hear that. They might not hear it. Let
me do This is the greatest what is the greatest
this one weird song? What is the greatest weird al song? Okay, fantastic?
I'might a be able to get him his audio down
here all right now people can hear him, but I'm
gonna mute him now because we already got what we
need from him. All right, Sean, what is the greatest
weird al song of all time?
Speaker 2: Do you are you listen? Weird l This is?
Speaker 1: This is even better because this is deeply important to Mike.
Speaker 2: All right, this is eat it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, eat it might be it, but
it's it really is Amish Paradise.
Speaker 2: Did you did you hear Amish Paradise.
Speaker 3: No, oh, but I have I have heard one that
chat points out. I think this is good white and nerdy.
Speaker 1: White nerdy is great. Absolutely, yes, feeling though I think
it's Amish Paradise. I bet I wonder if that's like
too basic for Mike because it's like there was such
a huge moment. But yeah, I would go. I would
go with Amish Paradise. White Nerdy is right there. Eat,
it is up there. Actually, if I go by name.
Speaker 5: By titles, another one's thrice the Bus Here's me. I
don't know why, but I really like.
Speaker 3: That that title.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: I mean, what what's the His first one was maybe
my Bologna. I'm my Bologna.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I do like you listen the Saga song
or whatever, the Star Wars song. I didn't like fall
in love with that, the saga bagains thank You. I
didn't fall in love in love with that the way
some people did. And really it's like, what I want
from weird Out is the song parodies, specifically the ones
that are parodies of popular songs. And yeah, absolutely so
I'm gonna go with Amish Paradise.
Speaker 3: Sean that sounds right enough people in Chad are backing
that up that that sounds right to me.
Speaker 1: All right, there was one earlier before you guys, before
we get another hat to hold off before asking for
another one. Let's see, Zombie Porn had one. It was
what is the greatest fictional sports team? That one's This
is a lot of fun, I think, Sean, all right, this.
Speaker 3: Is a norway IK have to differ on, Like there
are some bad hat draws from me tonight, because like
I kind of missed out on like the Mighty Ducks era. Okay,
I know, like I'm not as familiar with when this
was like a big thing in movies and like Disney
movies and stuff like that. So I'll I'll once again
defer to you on this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but I do think you might have
it there with the Mighty Ducks even if you missed
out on it.
Speaker 2: Mighty Ducks are just so clearly probably hit.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, like what would be the alternatives, Oh,
the Chiefs from slap Shot definitely, there's you know, the
Tune Squad from Space Jam. Oh shit, that one's really good, Sean,
or even the mon Stars.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: One or the other MOS stars don't have Lola Bunny.
Speaker 2: God damn it, they don't have Lola Bunny. Oh, Sean,
I'll I have to tell you off there. I can't.
I can't do this one remind me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, everybody,
I'm sorry. Sorry, I can't.
Speaker 1: I really can't. I'm sorry, I can't. Okay, okay, listen,
maybe one day, chat one day. Trust me, it's you
would not want me to do this to spare the
person that I'm sparing here, the East Dylan Lyons from
Friday Night Lights up there for me, they're not gonna hang.
They're not gonna hang with these other ones. I do
think it's between the Mighty Ducks and the Tune Squad shown.
Speaker 3: But are we allowing this?
Speaker 2: Well, which Goku? What way go explain?
Speaker 1: Because like I do have a Goku, I do have
no Goku one, and it would be the with apologies
the Cleveland Indians from Major League Like for a bunch of.
Speaker 2: Reasons, we don't have to, we don't have to go
with them.
Speaker 1: But yes, that that is a team that exists, even
though it's a fictional wise version.
Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about. True video games.
Speaker 1: No oh no, no, no, yeah, this is this is just
fictional sports teams.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, right, I.
Speaker 5: Have one, but no, what is gonna care because he's
about soccer and it's like the Sega team Sega I
f C where you have to on viirta striker or
you're told soccer you go to like s England and
I don't remember Germany and the other one and it's
like a super it's like a cheat almost because they
have all the stats to the max and all this
stuff was pretty fun.
Speaker 1: The Bad News Bears things like that. I'm that was
even a little bit before my time, just a touch.
So yeah, all right, Sean, I think I am. I
might be ready to give this to the tune squad.
Speaker 3: Und Space Jam is just like one of my favorite
movies ever. And I think like the image of bugs
Bunny in basketball, like jersey and shorts. Do they call
them jerseys and basketball?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, basketball jerseys?
Speaker 3: Yes, that just sounds so weird when I say it
out loud. The jerseys, yeah yeah, Looney Tunes, characters in
basketball clothing just in general across the board, like it
just as such an evocative thing that I think a
lot of people are like, oh oh yeah, space Jam
So yep, I'm going Tune Squad.
Speaker 1: I like it, yeah, real quick out, Yes, I wo
con Nicosama, says F. C. Richmond from Ted Lasso. I
like that show a lot. I've only watched like the
first two seasons. Apparently maybe it's not as good after that,
but that's what I've watched in. I like that team
quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's look, Mighty Ducks are right there, but we're going.
We're going with Tune Squad for Lola, Bunny and the rest.
All right, all right, yes, thank you? Start yelling hat.
Let's see here.
Speaker 2: I think you may be picking one.
Speaker 6: You should pull a third one just to have it ready.
Speaker 4: Found it Jason, when the time comes, just firing the
hat off.
Speaker 2: Everybody. Here we come, supera. What is there?
Speaker 3: Stuck together?
Speaker 2: What is the greatest Mario boss of all time?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good one. All right, I said that's
a good one.
Speaker 1: Uh let me turn this down there we go, all right, Sean,
that's the greatest Mario boss of all time?
Speaker 3: Okay, does I cut to the chase? Cut to the chase?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to, Yeah, let's do it, because,
like I think just you know, Bowser screams.
Speaker 3: To me, it's just like bra across the board Bowser.
I'm trying to think of even which iteration. I'm thinking
end of Mario sixty four, Bowser spin them and toss
them into the spiky balls there, Like I'm thinking, that's
a damn good fight, and damn I it's not really good.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, I definitely would go there.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I think Bowser in Mario sixty four is
probably my standout, probably would have been my pick as well.
I like the baby Bowser fight in Yoshi's Island. If
we want to count that one.
Speaker 3: Is that the one where he gets really big.
Speaker 1: It gets really big and you throw the eggs in
the background and stuff like that. But that, you know,
that was for me. It was like, I've never seen
anything like this in a game before, and by the
time most people listening had seen that, that was pretty
old hat.
Speaker 3: I think for like people your age, that's an iconic one.
But I think like because of speed running, especially the
Mario sixty four ending one has like sort of frost
generations a lot.
Speaker 1: M h no, I I agree, I'm like, God beyond
beyond those, It's like what PD Piranha, Like, I don't know,
there's like, are there ones that really stand out a ton?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are ones that I like, Like I actually
think like some of the Super Mario Sunshine as much
as Sunshine as some news boss fights. Uh, they're like
the first PD Parano one is, like I feel, stands
out to me. I like RT Bex and the chat
Burdo and Mario two.
Speaker 1: Like that one's actually pretty good, pretty iconic as well
for sure.
Speaker 2: And I love the way it feels.
Speaker 1: It's a good fight to sort of predict when the
eggs are gonna get blown at you, and you can
kind of time that jump. And I always play as Luigi,
so the jump is floating and fluttering, landing on top
of it always feels like this really high skill move.
So yeah, I really like the Burdo fight, but it's
it's it's not gonna hold up to h Bowser and
Super Mario sixty four Furry Bowser, Fury Bowser. I don't
like the way. I don't love the way he looks actually,
oh he looks messed up up. Yeah, and I think
that's intentional, but he was messed up. Agreed, agreed, all right.
I think I think it's Bowser from Super Mario sixty four.
Speaker 3: Sean, I think so like the one. The one that
I think is like cute that a couple of people
have brought up in Chad is that Donkey Kong. And
I imagine they're talking about like in Donkey Kong.
Speaker 1: In Donkey Kong. That's that is very cute. Oh god,
that's that's solid.
Speaker 2: That's also solid.
Speaker 3: You don't fight d K in that game. I'm trying
to think of like people, right, it's not a bother.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I mean I get it.
Speaker 1: Definitely is like right there, and I get what people
are going Yeah, you know what they're going for, and
I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it a lot.
Speaker 1: But I think I think even even if it was
a boss fight or whatever, I think we probably could
easily still end.
Speaker 2: Up with Bowser in Mario sixty four.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do let's do a couple more. Go
yell hat at Mike, everybody.
Speaker 2: Uh, this fucking bunny here. That's cute.
Speaker 4: You're gonna piss everybody your fucking hands and nose off.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send you something, okay.
Speaker 1: Perfect, Sorry for hat Hey, Yeah, I got nothing else
to do.
Speaker 4: Wait, what one what did they pick everybody, I'm not
gonna do it. Well, Mario sixty four bows are one.
Speaker 2: That's fine. Time for hadsuck. What is Oh this is
a fucking joke that I'm not there for this one?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? What is the greatest Saga Genesis game
of all time?
Speaker 3: What does he know? Get fucked? Mike?
Speaker 2: Incredible?
Speaker 3: All right, this motherfucker has for so long said that
Sonic two is better No Sonic three and Knuckles. Oh
you ship, Mike have been waiting for this moment. I've
been waiting for this moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got you gotta realize you still have
to deal with me. Sean and I.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: I like, I did really like Sonic three Knuckles at
the time at my friend's house. I just didn't play
it ton of it. I was just like I was
enjoying what they were doing. But man Gunstar Heroes, Mano.
Speaker 3: Star Heroes is pretty sick. Yeah, let's actually talk this through.
Let's let's give some respect to an Alzheimer video game console.
There's a lot of great GenZ games. Streets of Rage two,
Streets of Range.
Speaker 1: Who yes, like that's a game you put that on
today and not just for like freaks like me who
like adore that game, and my family, like we played
together all the time. That's a party. You put that on.
Everyone's having a good time. Yeah, okay, So I'm streets
Rage two, Gunstar Heroes, Shanobi three, maybe not maybe not
quite as high as those other ones, but it's really
up there for me still.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: NHL ninety four actually.
Speaker 3: Right, that's one that people absolutely love.
Speaker 2: People adore. Yeah, that's another one of those ones. You
put that on. It's a party.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I'll give mikey props here. I
would not pick it, but Rock and Knight Adventures is
a very solid video game.
Speaker 2: Yep, definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, Mortal Kombat two, Mortal Kombat, Yeah, Mortal Kombat two.
Fantasy Star four, I know is one that Mike probably
would say at this point and then I nod lightly.
Speaker 3: That's what the Fantasy Star sickos love.
Speaker 2: I know, Yes, that's the one they love absolutely. Yes,
all right.
Speaker 1: For me, it's between one of your sonics, streets Rage
two and Gunstar Heroes. I think I probably still go
Gunstar Hero Sean, but Genesis not my console, so I'm
willing to kind of like, maybe leave.
Speaker 2: This up to you a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yes, this was my console. Yess also Mike Minai's console.
I guesse, what what Mike Manadi ain't here right now?
Three Knuckles, Sonic three and Knuckles, Is that it? Yeah,
I'm going with that. If you're cool with that, I'm
cool with that.
Speaker 1: Oh, doctor Robot, it's being bing machine bucking owns. Okay,
that's good too. All right, it's Sonic three and Knuckles.
Speaker 2: Check.
Speaker 1: Go tell them we picked that, and then start yelling,
hat will do it. We'll do two more. I think
at least we'll see how we're cooking here.
Speaker 3: About this.
Speaker 4: All right, Let's see the camera was chilling behind me
and I couldn't see it's.
Speaker 3: Still telling voice. It's just all right, it's not right now.
This is not a to find out. I want them to.
Speaker 7: Know what three Sonic three, the Sonic three and Knuckles
isn't it is like the third best Sonic game.
Speaker 2: On that third Knuckles past one. I think at least
it's and.
Speaker 3: This has been like.
Speaker 4: Not even better in Sonic Win so to It certainly
isn't better than Streets of Rage two or Gunstar Hero.
Speaker 2: I'm the Sonic guy.
Speaker 8: Not only of Admore you would be here. You have
not gotten the premium. So this dude is podcasting two
different shows at once. What the hell do you need
to do this premium?
Speaker 9: You don't even like the Sonic Games. How did you
let this happen? I hope happened, Christians feeling this happened.
I hope you like vertical levels. That's what's great about
Sonic is the vertical level design.
Speaker 4: God Games, Uh huh oh good?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 4: Okay, damn it. I think maybe I'll be I think
maybe they'll do the right thing here.
Speaker 2: Don't disappoint me again.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: What is the greatest Arnold Schwarzenegger movie of all time? Oh?
Speaker 3: Shit, we're getting disappointing them, Jeff, I'm this one. I'm
in the in this one.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yeah, I have to help us out, Christia,
I mean, okay, okay, there for sure it's Terminator too,
right it is?
Speaker 3: I don't know, Sean, where are you going?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Look, I love Jingle all the way. I love Jingle
all the way. It's not and it's not beating Terminator too.
Speaker 3: Here I could just say where it ain't beating Commando either,
you know?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: God, Commando is fantteristic as well. Oh man, Commando's really good,
but it's not. No, yeah, Commando's not beating Terminator to
and Jingle all the way is also not beating Commando.
You're right, I love Okay, let's talk about the ones
that are competitive here.
Speaker 2: It is Commando, true lies.
Speaker 1: Predator, Predator, total recall, Terminator, Terminator too and Jingle all
the way.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, respect.
Speaker 1: Oh Ship the Running Man. Man, the Running Man's up
there as well. Running the Running MAT's like one of
my perfect movies. And even then it's like, I don't
even know if I necessarily would put it as the
best art of the movies.
Speaker 5: I watch it recently and it's pretty good. It doesn't
like like hold up, like like a.
Speaker 2: For me for me, It totally holds up.
Speaker 1: It's like it's got the right it's got the right
balance of like eighties cheese and like it's gonna it's
got a heady it's got a heady sci fi concept,
a dystopian concept, and a place around with that in
a fun way. And then it's just NonStop Arnold one
liners when he's killing all these dopey guys.
Speaker 5: I that movie is like the It is like the
star of his like stars onm Like I feel like
he's where he found himself as a as an action
like icon.
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's like his best work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: We we're gonna put Twins on it.
Speaker 2: Twins is about I like Twins as a kid.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be Twins, everybody, Okay, God, this is uh.
Speaker 3: I was joking around, like I genuinely love Jingle all
the way to be clear by this Terminator too.
Speaker 2: Come on, it's Terminator too. I mean there too.
Speaker 3: The greatest movie ever.
Speaker 2: Talk about perfect movies.
Speaker 1: Man, God, that's that one might actually be like that's
like the ockering of time of movies. It's just like
it should be the highest rate of movie on everything.
I can watch it at the drop of a hat.
Speaker 2: But man, he's got a lot more just actual straight.
Speaker 1: Up great movies than I ever given credit for Terminator,
Tournator two, Total recall, Predators excellent. Yes, total Recall is excellent.
True Lies is excellent. Bill Paxson's a big part of that, obviously.
James Cameron, Uh Commando though running Man, I don't love Conan. Actually,
Conan is when I don't necessarily love love all right,
it's Terminator too.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's report back to Mikey. It's gonna be
hilarious if he thinks he thinks it's Commando.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: Commando.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I love Commando.
Speaker 3: He's still on Sonic. Jesus Christ has.
Speaker 4: One, all right, boring, can't Commando?
Speaker 3: Huh? I kind of this shoe his low taste thing
for like more approaching.
Speaker 4: I don't even know, we know, we know. I gotta
try the race one more time, real quick, all right.
Speaker 3: Terminator two wins, one more hat Mike.
Speaker 4: One second dollars every time updates. All right, I was
getting on him. I'm gonna turn this down, actually down,
pause the game. Yeah all right.
Speaker 1: I dude, man, this is a fun thing. Just I had,
like I had a strong feeling when we turned it
back on he would still be talking about Sonic and
the fact that he was.
Speaker 3: It's just the incredible was the intended result, think winning
the race because of your.
Speaker 2: Good good Oh my god, he's lost again. Oh he
looks so pissed.
Speaker 1: Chat did he was he okay with Terminator? Or is
this was he insisted on a Commando?
Speaker 3: He wan command. All right, the popular.
Speaker 4: Right, what is the greatest video game cat of all time?
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, yes, someone do that for us.
Speaker 2: We appreciate that.
Speaker 1: All right, Blinks is definitely one of the video cat
best or greatest. It's always greatest. I think it's like
what is the or what or who is the greatest?
Speaker 2: Blank?
Speaker 1: So I think, oh he has on those papers is
just a term and then that's the filling for the
blank for greatest. All right, the video game cats, off
the top of my head are Blinks, Nikki, Yes, we
heard you, Nikki Blinks, and thank you Niki and Bubbsy yes,
thank you so much. And I guess Mario as a cat.
We're not going to count that, are we. Oh no,
what's happening. Oh he's zoom he's zooming in.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh from Darkstalkers. That's a cat. He's half
cat at least. Well. Yeah, the wear a cat doesn't do.
Like if we said wolves would wear wolf count?
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't.
Speaker 3: That's the problem, right, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it would count. Oh there are
some good cats animal crossing, that's true.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I like Felicia a lot, though, big OKAYU.
Speaker 3: Oh me outh.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, my man mouth is good like Mantha.
Speaker 2: I actually legit like.
Speaker 3: Like multi media crossover too, Like, yeah, he sucks as
a video game character, but he comes from a video
game became huge because of the TV show and then
that cycled back into the video game and the trading
card game and everything like that. Yes, health is good,
good call all right?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Sprigetito's actually up there. But I think of
the poke. I would I would go with.
Speaker 3: Me out with cat cat.
Speaker 1: Yes, Big the Cat's also okay, Big the Cat's good.
I do like Big the Cat. I like looking at
Big the Cat. I guess I don't care about them
in video games actually, but who cares the cat from Stray, Yeah,
that's yeah, everyone's favorite. I do like the kitty from
Little Kitty, Big City. My kids have played the hell
out of that. I help them all the time, so
I've played the hell out of that. It's it is
just like just a cat. But they do a great
job of sort of like capturing cats, like you know,
circling and laying down in the sun and just having
a good cat mannerisms.
Speaker 3: But yeah, probably not Okaya from Animal Crossing.
Speaker 2: Which one is that the Egyptian cat.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, I definitely like many of the Like
when I play Animal Crossing, I want to have a
lot of those cats because I think they're fun.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of them are going to
stand out enough to go up against like something as
strong as mouth.
Speaker 3: Okay, was that Christia Morgana? Yeah, MORGANA from.
Speaker 2: Prisona Persona five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you guys tell me about you guys have
to tell me about that. Oh wait, is that the
cat that like I'm picturing in my head a cat
from Persona?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Is it just that its I don't think so, based
on the way you said that into a Yeah there.
Speaker 1: Just google Morgana all right, morgana Persona.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's a different cat.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, yeah, is it the one that like
cas like half black, half white face? Okah, that's all right.
There was another picture of it. I guess does it
transform a little bit?
Speaker 3: It does? Like in the real world, MORGANA is like
a regular cat and then he becomes cartoony in the
in the our world.
Speaker 2: All right, well, where does morgana rink a?
Speaker 3: Like? I like MORGANA as well, but it's kind a name.
Speaker 2: What about a palico?
Speaker 5: Oh, Polico's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Sort of like the Palico's. I don't know something. Your palico.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's not that's his name.
Speaker 2: Uh there's that cat, the cat from Night in the Woods.
Oh fuck yeah, I'm not like that too. But I'm
I think i'm stile my out.
Speaker 3: I thought somebody mentioned, Oh, Jeff, how are you not
talking about Bubbsy?
Speaker 1: I said, oh am, I not talking about Bubbsy. What
a great question anyway?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, un I do. I have a softer spot
for Bubbsy every day in my life, but still.
Speaker 3: Now looking around my room for Kitty Catsu, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, he's just weazy.
Speaker 1: Sha Christ. I think it's either Big the cat or
me out. Yeah, I think so too. Does anyone care
about Red thirteen anymore? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh right, I was gonna mention file of fantasyte sith Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh Kate sith right. Yeah again, you just got to
tell me. I mean I'm aware of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the cat who like controls a big the big guy,
the big guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I think I'm stole me out.
Speaker 3: It's such a good call. I'm trying anything else that
we're overlooking and it's either bigger meuth. It's hard to
argue against me out for his like cultural appeal.
Speaker 1: If if like, like you guys like like big enough
to go over me out like, I would be willing
to hear that because I like big the cat too.
Speaker 2: I just like me off more.
Speaker 3: Okay. The only thing is is this was this specifically
video game cat?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, it was best video game cat.
Speaker 3: Is this old riddle bit of a Goku thing where
he became popular because of something outside the video game?
Speaker 1: No, because if Goku was in a video game first
and then immediately went into an anime, that that would
not be good.
Speaker 3: Go not apply, not apply, Yeah, gotta be me out then,
mouth all right, uh.
Speaker 1: Let's do one more. We'll do one more just because
I really like bothering Mike. That's becoming kind of what
this show is now, so let's go ahead.
Speaker 3: And it was Jeff's suggestion, what's the cat's name from?
Speaker 6: Uh oh yeah, takes the window?
Speaker 4: Vingo told look at that Pokemon come on it from
r Ghana.
Speaker 3: Wasn't me? Are you joking? Mouth really?
Speaker 2: Mouth really?
Speaker 3: Maybe because of the anime, but like, is yelling at
us really?
Speaker 2: This has to be your last hats.
Speaker 6: Seems like they would extend the segment just to screw
with you.
Speaker 4: Suggestions you guys are I'm not impressed with the selection
so far.
Speaker 1: Guys good sound like honestly, if Mike here making his suggestions,
I would be way more like antagonistic.
Speaker 2: So he should just know what's going on?
Speaker 4: What is the best video? What is the best hat
of all time? And that was what Jeff said aside,
Uh though what is uh? Cole says Mike should Smokerosoft
scandal and got trick with someone to be fun?
Speaker 3: All right, ask about that?
Speaker 2: What is is?
Speaker 4: What the hell did I write? Okay, what is the
best game? Romance?
Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna be here all night ship?
Speaker 2: All right? Uh man, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Romance can mean a lot of things. Yeah they can't, sorry,
because we can narrow this down. But I immediately go
to Cloud Tifa and yeah, for sure, the Triangle, I
mean that's that God. That probably is like the canonical answer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Booster and Mario and Bowser from Mario RPG.
Speaker 2: They Kiss come on.
Speaker 5: Cano and and Kano from the Past on Moral Komba.
Speaker 1: Uh so, like there are other ones from Final fantasy, right,
but we would we would make it like a cloud
is going to clear.
Speaker 3: Cloud is like an interesting one because of how implied
it is rather than explicit. But that's also a good one. Uh.
Speaker 1: How about this god? I can't remember how much of
a messfect guy? You are a commander Shepherd and Garris
Vicarian all right?
Speaker 2: Great? Uh uh?
Speaker 1: Garris is a god. That's a fun character to romance.
I don't even know if that necessarily fits the definition
of what this is at like, like like it is
just a D game romance.
Speaker 2: I would not go to a Garris like right away necessarily.
Speaker 1: It'd be like that's a great romanceable character, which was
maybe a different answer than what we're discussing here.
Speaker 3: Chad hit us with the really good ones, because like
I'm blanking and I'm like, oh, there's so many that
we can talk about.
Speaker 1: Lincoln Zelda, like, do we want to like consider that? Yeah,
I'm with you, I'm yeah, right, okay. So I for me,
it would be like I think of like the very
innocent romance of like link looking through the window in
aker Ena of Time and that feeling very star crossed
and and you know, it's always very light on the romance.
Speaker 3: I was thinking Breath of the Wild because oh yeah,
to me, that is them actually slowly falling in love
and they don't even need to say it. They don't
need to hit the player over the head with It's
just like, oh, this is the thing that's happening, Like,
if you're paying attention, these two are starting to care
about each other. And it's especially interesting because Blink had
a relationship in that timeline. He and Mifa were a thing,
So like, there's an interesting story to be told there.
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: God, Okay, that one's that one could be up there
of the ones, it's probably that.
Speaker 3: I like that, yeah, from fatal theory, Like Andy.
Speaker 1: Yep, I don't have any love for garyl in Unifer
can't even say their names.
Speaker 2: So I mean it's a pretty good role. He's yeah,
I'm sure it is like you.
Speaker 5: Can't play as a fun boy, but you also can
play like other thing. But girl have multiple.
Speaker 1: You know, master Chief and Cortana because it is I mean, yes,
it's kind of dumb, but yeah.
Speaker 3: God, you won't understand this one. But Chad, I I
agree with you that this is good. I don't think
it makes it but two B and nine s in
your automata. I know people do enjoy that, how it
subverts your expectations of what that relationship is so interesting,
But it's also I don't think quite compares to you know,
within the Square Enix pantheon, the.
Speaker 5: Most romances in video games are in Vichel noles and
none of these motherfucker's plub Vision noles. Because like when
they secondly say romans, I was thinking stein Gates and
Kuisu and.
Speaker 2: We could play Dispatch that's pretty good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like Michel Noise or all about romance, and
that's why it was like yes, and of course, yeah.
Speaker 3: This is where I wish I played more Zeno Blade,
because I wish I knew how those things panned out,
because I've heard, like there's some legitimately good stuff in
there in Zone Black, Chronicles three.
Speaker 1: The Guards from Middle Gear, Solid and Pornography that's inseparable.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Meryl.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, Nathan Drake and Elena Fisher.
Speaker 3: Oh actually Solid gets like they really kind of nailed
that with the Uncharted four especially. Yeah, Okay, I feel
I feel like we really like hit this.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 1: It's I mean to me like I think The poster
child for this is is Cloud, Teef and Earth.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, I had an extended conversation with Emma when
we were playing f FN re Birth for review about
the exact topic and her talking about like how she
has wanted to see this stuff properly on screen since
she was just a little girl playing the original, and
I'm like, yeah, that's so many people's experiences and so
many people's like first exposure to this type of romance
and stuff like that. It's an iconic one. It's a
fun one. It's a good one. You uh, you get
to choose a path in that game for who Cloud
gets closer to. I think it's like the I'm gonna
I'm gonna label as the Love Triangle in f F
seven because I think you know what fun the Earth
they could end up to go to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Eadian Joker is a good one too.
Atso Cafe, Uh, it's it's still Love Triangle from Final
Fantasy seven. All right, let's go, let's go tell Mike
here his response and then we'll be done here.
Speaker 2: Uh, all right, Love Triangle.
Speaker 3: Mainstream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course he is. Yeah, he'll never be happy
with our choices. That's a part of the charm I
don't know alright.
Speaker 3: Picked the Love Triangle and Final Fantasy seven.
Speaker 1: Get thank you for your blessing, Mike. All right, I'm
muting him. We're done with Mike. Everybody perfect. That's exactly
how we like it. That's how we know we actually
got the right one where he goes, I get it.
All right, Good work, Sewan, good work, hat I guess,
thank you to Mike Minatti.
Speaker 2: Uh we did yeah, we did good work. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take one more break. We'll come back,
talk about what we've been playing. If there's anything else.
I've kind of talked about Forts a little bit. But
we'll see what Sean's been playing. We'll get some more
super chats, and then we'll get on out here right
after this. All right, we're getting back into it. Sean,
what have you been playing?
Speaker 3: Oh, let me pull up a website real quick, because Jeff,
let me tell you the wee. Retro Achievements grind is real.
Speaker 2: Yeah. More and more people getting on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun. Retro achievements is very, very fun. I
have officially entered my shovel where arc to get points
on board for the fifty I need for the profile
icon I want of Roselina Deff. I have mastered, meaning
that I both beat the game for one point and
then got every achievement I got masteries in Who Wants
to Be a Millionaire? First Edition?
Speaker 2: The Helly Aay Game?
Speaker 1: Okay, uh, grill off with Ultra hand Amazing Learning What
the Pooh Use?
Speaker 3: Episode one?
Speaker 1: Okay, man, this is making this this is what's making
me really want to do this more than anything else.
Sean having reasons to go back to play this stuff. Okay,
keep going.
Speaker 3: Thomas and Friends, Hero of the Rails Wake.
Speaker 2: What was that one?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: Um, shake the weird mode to make Thomas go and
then spray down engines hot?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Cool? Golden Balls?
Speaker 2: What's that one? Like?
Speaker 3: That's another UK game show where I don't understand how
it works. You just pick a ball. It either has
money or not. I think it's like a dealer no
deal kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Is it always golden balls? Then chat?
Speaker 1: Maybe anyone from the UK might know. Is that one
like the Prisoner's Dilemma? Steal you steal or splay?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Prisoners still? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, here's one for Nicky Freddie Fish kelp
Seed Mystery oh yeah, and then okay, okay, something that
I actually wanted to talk about here. So Art of
Balance is from Shinan, the people who make like a
fast racing neo fast RMX. They were the tourists as well,
weren't they.
Speaker 1: God, that does some familiar now that you say it
wouldn't It wouldn't come to my head had you not.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they started to get big in the we
wear DSi wear ERA, and this was one that was
actually pretty good. I expected to be shovel where when
I saw their name, I was like, oh, this could
be cool, and it is. It's just you have a
it's a puzzle game. Basically, you have, like I think
it's a total of one hundred and twenty puzzles, a platform
floating in water and you need to stack blocks to
like make a tower. And at first it's just make
a tower using every block and like make sure it
doesn't fall into the water, but eventually gets to like
make it x you know meters high, build it as
quickly as possible. Just a cute little puzzle game. I
thought that was solid. And then and what I did
muscle march. I believe this is about on your radar
on the Week. Yeah, okay, yeah, Namco game in the
spirit of like Katamari Donalcy kind of of your game.
It's it's a simple ass game where you're just in
a a march, a parade of musclely people, and you're
just like walking through everything, so just plowing through walls
and stuff. And the whole gimmick is that the person
at the front of the parade get to match their
pose as they go through the wall.
Speaker 2: Right, yes, yes, totally and it does.
Speaker 1: It has like realistic JPEGs of animals and stuff, right yeah,
fuck yeah, Okay, I love this.
Speaker 3: It was just a delightful time. It's basically just a
QTE game because you're just matching the pose. But I thought, ah,
that's this is actually kind of a neat game. It's
got a good soundtrack to go with it. A little
challenging to Gelica Jeeminson. Yeah, it was cool. But then
there's the two I actually want to like talk to
you about. Jeff is Uh. Okay, So I mastered Doc
Lewis's punch Out. Do you like come Nintendo sort of
demo for we punch Out? M M. Never really gotten
to punch Out obviously, I've fired up the NES one,
like everyone has at least once or twice. I genuinely
want to know, as someone who's not into the series
and just wasn't kind of introduced to it, really with this,
what is the appeal of the punch Out series to you?
Because I don't think we've already talked about this, even
like yeah, grubber Lang was I think before me and
Mike's time at GB. So it's like, I'm curious to
see what your thoughts are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for me, it is, you know, going
back to the NES version, part of it is these
big attractive sprites. But then once you start playing the game,
the reaction time of being able to like recognize a
pattern it's happening, and then having that split second to
just react without thinking, and then getting into the flow
state of being able to do that throughout a whole
fight that is very I like that quite a lot.
Speaker 2: And the game is, you know, it is.
Speaker 1: Compared rightfully so to from Software Bosses, because that's what
from Software Bosses kind of still are to this day,
and it's just a game of nothing but from soft Bosses.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because I was like playing it and thinking, okay,
so the I guess the appeal is recognizing the patterns,
Like you have to memorize some of the like the
micro patterns, but then like recognize quickly what they are.
Though it's not just reaction. It's in part memorization and like, uh,
it's recalling that information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're internalizing the the battle basically, and you're okay,
and it's uh, it's audio visual, so it is you
get to have it's multisensory. You get to see it happening,
but you also you hear and listen, and you combine
those two things and eventually it is it's still reaction
because like you could, you can learn the patterns and
you got to learn what you need to do. But
they're happening so fast, especially in later battles, later fights
in those games. Uh, that it's all about Okay, that's
the patterns happening right now. Now, I got to react
in a split second. And it's just you don't have
to think. You just kind of your nervous system can
kind of just do its thing. And that's really appealing
to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I was interested enough that I do the
regular we punch out also has achievements. I don't know
if I'll master it because of it's tough. Yeah, I
don't know if it's really appealing to me that much,
but I at least I want to see what the
Wii Want was like because I've never played it before.
Speaker 1: So I mean there's I mean, god, the animation in
that game where you know it's it's next levels, that
the studio. God, it's it's so so amazing to look
at you played through the first the set of battles,
and then it starts you over with a much harder
version of everything, and then Donkey Kong's at the end,
and that's that's cool, but he is really really tough.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, fire hair points. I'll punch out was on
the double points list, so even just beating it, we'll
give me two points.
Speaker 2: Coo okay, oh that'd be worth it.
Speaker 3: Nice And then yeah, okay, so that's that's what I
want to talk to you about. And then the like
the big one I've been doing. I've been streaming this
on the weekends Saturday and Sunday. If anyone wants to
check out push Out TV, Slash Turbo, Shawn Shaw One,
Billie Princess Legend, Zelda, Twily, Princess. Yeah, I've never done
a full play through of it. It was just past
the controller game with my friends when we were kids.
I never really got into it. I think, you know
by now. I think a lot of people know by now.
I prefer two D Zelda greatly up until Breath of
the Whild, So I never got into this one all
that much. In our thing. Billy Princess is a very
interesting game to me because it feels like, you know,
going in semi blind, not knowing like a ton about it.
It feels like Ochreena of Time Reducts kind of like
it's not physically a sequel. It's not a remake, it's
not even a redo. It kind of just does feel like,
if we want to just do what we did with
ocreena Time and making a video game, this is what
it is in two thousand and five. And I think
there's problems with that. You know, they were heading into
the HD era a lot of like the muddy texture
era and everything like that. Everything needs to be gritty
and dark and stuff like that. But I think there's
some really fun stuff in TWIY Princess FA. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have mixed great dungeons on great dungeons.
Speaker 3: That's what I've noticed. Yeah, because I've always heard that
from people. They're like, the dungeons are so good, and
I've done three of them so far. I've done the forest,
the volcano, and the Water Temple thing, and the first
two are fantastic. I had a great time playing through
those dungeons. Uh, the water one, they need to take
water away from Zelda. Man, Like when can be the
only water Zelda game?
Speaker 2: Can't be trusted with it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like they even do some interesting stuff with
it of getting the water to float through multiple rooms
they push a water wheel and stuff. I'm like, okay,
that's kind of neat there. They at least put an
interesting spin on but still like raising and lowering the
water levels. I'm like, no, guys, this sucks. Go back
to the water wheel stuff. But even that was better
than Water Temple and Akarina at least, so I think
in general, I'm enjoying my time with it. I got
some issues with it, like some of the overworld stuff
is kind of boring. Everyone knows the intro's too damn
long into heavy, But I'm a little over halfway through
it and having good enough time that I'm definitely still
trucking along. I'll finish it on stream and then get
all the retro teams off stream. I have a good time.
Even if I got some issues with it, I've enjoying
it more than I thought I would.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know my history with Twilight Prince, who the
princess was. God, I was so excited to get a
Wii and I was playing it and then my we
got stolen as I was about to get to the
Sky Temple, I think, and so I never I never
finished it, and I think there's something to be said
for I haven't really super felt the need to go
back and finish it because it's like, man, I had
a lot.
Speaker 2: Of fun with that game and then I'm kind of
kind of done.
Speaker 1: I do intend one day to go back to it,
and I was always going to go back to the
WIU one and and stuff like that, and then that
got to the point where it's like I'll just wait
for them to re release that HD version on the switch.
Speaker 2: Obviously that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like looking at this d comp now
and having a good reason, like the your retro challenge stuff,
retro achievement stuff that Yeah, man, I need to just
find a good excuse to go.
Speaker 2: Back there and play through it again.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that I would be like, Okay, yeah, here's
all the stuff I remember. And I even was like
into the stopping the goats and stuff like that. I
didn't even hate the long intro, even though I totally
agree with all of the criticisms of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of the parts of that life. Yeah,
hurting the goats actually thought was kind of a fun
Arcades style game. It. Yeah, you should check out Dusk.
I saw the my life and gaming guys playing it
on the weekend, and it's really neat. It does all
the you know, dcomp, slash ree comp stuff you would
expect to running it in obscenely high resolutions and frame
rates and stuff. You can import texture packs and stuff.
I think that would be a good excuse for you
to go back and check out. Yeah, you've been itching too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'll throw it on the steam deck
at the very least. That'll be a good way to
play that, all right, anything else, Sean, that's.
Speaker 3: It from me. You got anything else? Why I had
about forts else? No?
Speaker 1: You know, now, there's plenty of places to hear me
talk about fort so so yeah, I'll just.
Speaker 2: Say I really like that. That's that was taking my
time up as I was trying to get ready for that.
Speaker 6: God.
Speaker 2: I did play a little bit more Forbid and Solitaire.
It's it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It definitely has the vibe in the style and if
that that appeals to you, people should go check that out.
But I've talked about that a bunch as well. So yeah, oh, okay,
I did. I did play Secretory on the switch To
launched them. It launched them the switch To and Dan
got us codes and while he's like handing me the code,
he's like, we can't do it again, man, we just can't.
Speaker 2: We can't go. We can't do this to ourselves, Like Dan,
I know, but thank you for the code. We might
do it. I did one run, and you know, the
game's locked.
Speaker 1: You can only do the Experience, which is basically the
introductory tutorial mode.
Speaker 2: It does go on the leader board, but you're limited.
You can't.
Speaker 1: You can only get a five x multiplier instead of
a ten x multiplier. I did my one run, got
to the end, beat the boss, got nine million points,
which was enough to be fourth in the world, and
that includes everybody on all the different harder modes as well.
Speaker 2: Uh I had the highest experience tutorial.
Speaker 1: Level score and then, uh, it really didn't make me
go like, man, I should uh I should just keep playing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm playing pretty well.
Speaker 1: I should get back into this maybe a little bit
and just say set one good score on the switch
to the problem is the top score on the switch to.
Speaker 2: It's the meta has clearly changed.
Speaker 1: When I left it on my Steam deck, we were
in a situation where everyone was playing on the second
highest difficulty. There's a third highest one, but it seemed
like everyone's just like, well that is, you could do
that if you want, but you can really get the
highest score, highest scores on this middle level.
Speaker 2: The highest score on the switch.
Speaker 1: Already is higher than I ever saw, I believe on
the Steam deck and it's on the third highest difficulty.
Speaker 2: So and it was it was full play through and
that I just could not survive on that.
Speaker 1: So seeing that was like intimidating, And I'm like, I bet,
I bet that's the case back on PC now. But yeah,
I got the game works well on Switch. Yeah I've
been I mean I got my top ten score.
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was tenth or ninth or tenth in
the world. I was like, okay, good, I beat everybody.
I beat Jacob Geller beat Dan. Of course I beat Dan,
no problem.
Speaker 2: And it was yeah.
Speaker 1: And I put that down and was happy to move
on and play other games. But god, man, Sectory is
so good. If I don't think Jacob played after I
after I beat his score, I don't think so maybe
did a little bit. But yeah, people should go check
this out on Switch too, because it works. It works
really well on that system.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 1: You know what the analog nubs, No, they're not nubs,
but there may be. It makes a little bit more
difficult because they're so shallow. Steam decks just got a
little bit more travel, a little bit, a little bit
easier with the Steam deck.
Speaker 2: I got really used to playing it on the Steam deck,
so that's a huge part of it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: You can play with the pro control or you can
play with the joy cons. It's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Sectory. Glad it's on the Switch to
hope it does really well on there. Yeah, but that
does it for me, Sean. Should we do the super chats?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. Got a couple here from Lally's
up graduated with Masters of Social Work tonight and gamess
has been my background listening while writing papers for a
fun distraction and reprieve from the busiest, most stressful time
in my life. Appreciate you. Hey, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Congratulations and congratulations absolutely well done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then one more here is from Zobie Porin
just remembered that as Star Fox's fifty dollars, it's possible
for punch Out to come back for that quote unquote
budget price, y'all thinking punch Out can come back?
Speaker 2: Eam, I hope.
Speaker 1: So you know, if it comes back, it won't be
the punch Out that it was before. In terms of
the characters, they won't do the stereotypes anymore. No, I
think that if they did Nintendo punch Out and had
Little Max still, but it is Mario and other characters,
even if it's you know, like lesser character. If it's like,
you know, I'm trying to think of a Mario enemy
that has arms, so they could actually be a boxer
but whatever, mouser or.
Speaker 2: Something like that. That could be a ton of fun. Yeah,
war Yeah, I would I would love that.
Speaker 1: That'd be a great way to like bring all these
characters together, and especially characters that maybe have been in
movies recently.
Speaker 2: I would really really like that.
Speaker 1: But Next Level, which is the team that would probably
do it, They're going to be doing Luigi's Mansion first.
Speaker 2: After that. I do hope that they do punch Out.
That would be my hope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, they could take a different approach
to the international stuff. Sweet Fighter brought things to a
good point, so I think punch Out could as well.
Like punch Out was always more cartoony and therefore over
the top, but I can get they want to they
could do that. But also, yeah, I do kind of
like the idea of, like you going up against Nintendo
baddies and stuff. Even if that was like you know,
one of the circuits you could do, Yeah, it would
be really fun. Yeah, or like us some point on Chad,
there's all the characters from Arms just putting them in there, right, Yeah, exactly,
So I hope. So we'll see Yeah, all right, uh
let's see here. I think we got everything wrapped up right.
Let's uh, let's hit the button and start wrapping up
the show. Thank you for watching, everybody.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Sean, thank you for hanging out.
Why don't you tell people where they can find you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am Turbo Sean Sahawn all over the internet
Blue Sky. Like I mentioned, I'm streaming on Twitch again
on Saturdays and Sundays at noon Central go like kind
of all afternoon. So we want to just pop in
uh on the weekend in the afternoon. And now I'm
doing Twilight Princess like I said in the second half
of that. So you want to see how I like
that game, I want to check it out here. So
there's some on stuff coming up there. And then I
upload all the vaz to my YouTube channel. So if
you want to watch him that way you can do
do so their same name and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go give Sean a follow on Twitch. Everybody watches
streams on Sundays, Smit. Let's make that a cool time.
Let's see here, Yeah, Mike is gonna be continuing Donkey
Kong over on Giant Bombs.
Speaker 2: He's doing it right now. I mean, in fact, you
could just hear it. Take a look at this, see right.
Speaker 1: There is he's playing right now. It looks like he
actually eventually did beat that race. He's making a lot
of progress. I don't think he's gonna beat it tonight, uh,
but he's going to get pretty close, so there's a chance.
Maybe he just tries to like keep going and keep going,
but it does seem like it's possible he'll.
Speaker 2: Keep playing tomorrow. But don't miss it, go watch him.
Speaker 1: What he's doing is trying to like get people excited
to sign up for premium over at giant Bomb, and
we appreciate everybody that did sign up over there. It's
been a lot of fun working on Giant Bomb as
an independent website an outlet for the last year. We're
trying to set it up for success in the future,
so thanks everybody for your help with that. Meanwhile, O,
we're here at a game mess. We try to keep
things chill, try to keep things just fun. We like
doing these shows. I know, we go you all some
Q and a's and stuff like that. We've got a
new episode of Columbros We're gonna to record at some point,
but Mike's pretty busy this week, so that was gonna
happen now. But we'll get all that stuff out to
you real soon. Thanks to everybody who does support us
over at patreon dot com. Slash game mess or comes
in here, drops super chats or just hangs out.
Speaker 2: It's it means the world to us. We really do
appreciate it. Everybody. Yeah, let's uh, let's get out of here.
Let's enjoy our Friday, enjoy our weekend, play some games.
Speaker 3: We'll see you next time.
Speaker 2: Everyone, have a good one to take care of yourself
and goodbye.
Speaker 3: Hye, thank god. It's such a sy look. Handsome man
right there, angry handsome man.
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers, can you c l final in there? I am
going to cook every single one of you. Okay, thank you, thanksacime,
bye everybody.
Speaker 8: What was that