1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,719 Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the it 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,960 Welcome to Dairy. Episode through three spoiler review. I'm the 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,839 slinger Trest now I'm joined by. 4 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:18,719 Speaker 2: I Am the Graveyard Dude Field. 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: I think I figured it out. I think because I've 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,239 had problems with this title before, because also whenever we 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,280 review it, I keep wanting to say, like it chapter 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,920 two or chapter one or chapter three or something. But 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,800 I think because I usually say hello, welcome, ladies and gentlemen, 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,840 because I say welcome, and then then we say welcome 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,200 like it's just the title says. It just just grinds 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,960 my gears. But yeah, we are here to review episode three. 13 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:46,600 Obviously a day late. We should finally now, I know, 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,960 because last week was because there was the holiday. I 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 think there was right for there's some sort of holiday. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,399 It bumped an episode or bumped it a little bit later. 17 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:56,280 And then we had Extra Life, which also we'll talk 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,719 about probably on like the next newscast. We're all together, 19 00:00:59,079 --> 00:01:01,719 Thank you, everybody, big success. Probably the funest streams we 20 00:01:01,759 --> 00:01:04,040 were done, like for Extra LifeWise that GV day, like 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,760 these last two live streams that we've been going to 22 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:08,840 multiple days, multiple days, but multiple hours were tons of 23 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:11,480 fun and we hit our goal fifteen hundred, raised twenty 24 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:14,400 thousand for BC Chunes a hospital over these nine past years. 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,480 So we think everyone that donated watched helped us out. 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,359 But yeah, we'll do a bigger thank you. There'll be 27 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:21,599 another video probably made and stuff like that. So but 28 00:01:21,599 --> 00:01:23,519 thank you anyone that did come out over the weekend 29 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,799 and support us. We really appreciate it. So that's why 30 00:01:25,799 --> 00:01:27,359 it is a bit later. If you're wondering why on 31 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:29,879 the Monday usually or why on the Tuesday, we will 32 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,319 get back to from now on should be on time. 33 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,480 I don't think there's any major holidays or schedules or 34 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:37,560 anything like that, so look out for that. Kirkln Dylan 35 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:40,040 recording side quest right now, so you get that later 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,640 on this week or I guess tomorrow. Taylor and Kirklan 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,719 got a weekly Geek which you guys got some fun 38 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:49,000 topics saying you tomorrow and then running man, is this ready? Yeah, 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:54,599 because it's a Tuesday, actually throws it all off. So yeah, 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,760 so it's a Tuesday and then running in and then 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,319 we'll be back with it and then yeh, a bunch 42 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:01,879 of other stuff you can go if your patre right 43 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,239 now vote. We only got two submissions, so please especially think, 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,760 oh we have two another one, thank goodness to Maddie. 45 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:11,000 But the video game movie retrospective is happening in is November. 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,199 Mike had just put Minecraft and that was it so far. 47 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:15,520 Luckily Maddie put in Doom. But if you're a patron, 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,759 please go put in a movie and then the producers 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,639 will vote. But yes, we're back to talk about it. Honestly, Taylor, 50 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:22,960 you weren't here, so what did you think you did? 51 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,159 Kind of a double feature here, last little bit? What 52 00:02:25,159 --> 00:02:27,240 do you think of a little bit of two? But 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,000 then obviously primarily three and non spoilers way, even though 54 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,719 I'm sure else people have seen it by now, so 55 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:33,719 we keep our nonspoilers pretty short, I imagine. 56 00:02:33,759 --> 00:02:38,039 Speaker 2: So yeah, episode two. So I was coming off of 57 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,120 a big highway that first episode, and I wasn't sure 58 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:42,199 what we're gonna get in that second episode. And so 59 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,879 episode two rolls around, and yeah, I really liked the 60 00:02:47,199 --> 00:02:51,159 I guess I can say it. Halloran, Dick Halloran, his 61 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,560 character officially like boom, he's in here and I am 62 00:02:54,759 --> 00:02:59,240 eating everything up with him. I'm really really loving it, 63 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,360 and I just I think I'm loving it even more 64 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,039 because we did our Shining retro and just having that 65 00:03:04,199 --> 00:03:08,000 character so like heavy on my mind right now and 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,000 just having being able to I don't even have to 67 00:03:11,039 --> 00:03:13,080 head canonate. I can think in my mind, like, Okay, 68 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:15,879 this character before he dies in the Shining, he's here, 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,759 He's in dairy done shit, And I just really really 70 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,800 liked this. I think it's it's super awesome. And I 71 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:25,439 like how we've got the formation of our new crew 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:31,439 of characters too. That's that's coming together here. And yeah, 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,199 we just we get a little bit more kind of 74 00:03:33,319 --> 00:03:36,039 context on what's going on on the military base, which 75 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,280 is kind of exciting. But yeah, ultimately though, once we 76 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,199 get into this third episode, I was really really jabbing 77 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,240 with it. There was a lot going on that I'm 78 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:50,240 stoked with the military storyline, narrative. I'm really enjoying that stuff. 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,479 With this new group of kids. I'm really really happy 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,520 with this group of kids too, and it's just it's 81 00:03:57,599 --> 00:03:59,960 really really working for me. There was something that was shared. 82 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:01,680 I think it was a super bad mic in the discord. 83 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,000 He was talking about how or maybe it was s Pobs, 84 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,080 I can't remember. I apologize. It was the amount of 85 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:11,639 time that scars Guard has playing the clown Pennywise in 86 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:13,919 the show, at least in the first four episodes. I 87 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,319 think it was the first few episodes, was in the 88 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:19,160 entire season, but it was definitely a very very small amount, 89 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,399 and you know I saw that. I definitely was like, uh, 90 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,519 you know, okay, but going through these episodes and getting 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,920 the different levels of fear and like craziness, like, I'm 92 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,199 really really okay with it. I'm very happy with them 93 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,439 not just giving us the clown all the time and 94 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,519 in every single episode, like, don't do that build up 95 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:42,600 the hype and anticipation and so you know, it's not 96 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,319 a spoiler, but when you get to a moment where 97 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,279 you get like a two second glimpse of like the 98 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:50,800 Scar's Guard in the clown suit, it's like, oh fuck, 99 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Like it's the real deal, and you feel terrified because 100 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:55,199 it's like, oh the og, like he's right here and 101 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,839 not just one of the terrifying little illusions that's that's 102 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,240 that's present. Instead, you know, a lot of the illusions 103 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,360 so far have been very frightening and freaky. Especially on 104 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,319 this episode, you get some crazy, crazy stuff going on 105 00:05:10,439 --> 00:05:13,240 that I was really really enjoying in episode one and two. 106 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,319 I feel like there was a consistent theme with birthing 107 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:20,079 in that second episode, it was that was a really 108 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,600 disgusting sequence. Oh yeah, that was Ronnie and just I 109 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,759 was like, holy shit, that felt like some nightmare on 110 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:29,680 Elm Street. Stuff. 111 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: Definitely the whole like it's all like the movies even 112 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,680 felt like that. But this season definitely feels like that 113 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,120 a lot. 114 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, but I'm I'm I'm eating this up. This 115 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:44,959 is actually becoming one of my favorite shows right now. 116 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:48,319 I'm just I'm loving this. I'm really really loving I'm 117 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,839 really excited just for next Sunday, just to see where 118 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:54,519 we're at. And the way this episode concluded, its chills 119 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,160 down my spine, like it had like goosebumps. So I 120 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,480 didn't think, like this plan that was acted here, I 121 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:01,800 didn't think it would come true. I didn't think it 122 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,079 would work, but it, you know, it was. It left 123 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,839 a very very intense cliffhanger. And again too, just Dick 124 00:06:07,879 --> 00:06:10,720 Klauran's character dealing with the with the major and stuff 125 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,040 like that. Just there's just little things here that I'm 126 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,279 just I'm giddy about. I'm really excited about so this. 127 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,720 This episode was fantastic. 128 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoyed this so far. I'm enjoying the whole 129 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,480 show so far. I think the way i'd rank them 130 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,399 right now is last week was my favorite. I'd put 131 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,439 this week. I think this week and one are pretty equivalent. 132 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:29,800 I think there's some strengths and weakness for both of them. 133 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,240 I think there's some stuffle top on spoilers. I was 134 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:34,680 really excited to get too and then they went over 135 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,839 it really fast. I was like, oh, dang, that sucks. 136 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:38,519 It was like a calm, but I was like, it 137 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,439 felt like the weight of the situation that happened. It 138 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,959 was kind of it. He's kind of like we talked 139 00:06:43,959 --> 00:06:46,160 about in episode one where it ended on not a cliffhanger, 140 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,920 but a big thing and you weren't here for the 141 00:06:48,959 --> 00:06:50,759 discussion last week, but the beginning of the episode when 142 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:52,319 they may look like it was a dream sequence, I 143 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,040 was like, oh no, did that not happen? And then 144 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,040 they're like, oh no, did that kind of felt like 145 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,279 this week where they did somewhere else, some big, something 146 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,360 really crazy, gonna have one of our characters now week, 147 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,279 and then very quickly we move over that. So that's fine. 148 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:05,600 So yeah, again, I like that the kids are starting 149 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,519 to form a connection. But again they're not the Losers 150 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,720 Club in a sense where they're not best friends other 151 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,680 than Beverly that are together and figuring this all out there. 152 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:19,639 They're friendly, but there's like a I don't know, an 153 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,279 egregious sort of relationship between them, especially Ronnie and Lily. 154 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:25,199 You know, they're not the the They're just kind of 155 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,120 work together because they have to. They're not friends. So 156 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,079 that was good. Yeah, I agree. I like all the 157 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,439 dick caller and stuff. And I like the guy that 158 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,959 plays Deck Coller and he's been playing a good job. Yeah, 159 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:37,120 and I liked I think they revealed actually with James 160 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,519 from our character, I wasn't sure what we're going they 161 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,839 get with him. I thought, because we've seen this many times, 162 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:45,839 you know, in Little Worlds about Oppenheimer Pineapple Express, where 163 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:48,279 he is just generic army guy, you know, and I 164 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,519 thought that's what he was gonna be. And they revealed 165 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,879 some about his story that I think makes that character 166 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,680 more interesting and makes the show more interesting because I 167 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,920 think there's a big spoiler thing that we've talked about 168 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:01,920 a few times that kind of gave us an answer here, 169 00:08:02,279 --> 00:08:04,519 and I'm not neither four against it. I was just like, Okay, 170 00:08:04,959 --> 00:08:06,720 I wonder what the situation is going on with this 171 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,879 because that's not something that's really talked about in the movies. 172 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,800 But also the show's a little bit different, and yeah, 173 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:15,360 it's it's funny that I feel like if they are 174 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,959 doing the we get season two and three, it feels 175 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:20,600 like they're already stringing those together. So no, I enjoyed 176 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,680 this episode. I don't think it was as good as 177 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:24,800 last week. Last week I really enjoyed it. I think 178 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:29,199 the scares were I think there's it seems like every 179 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:31,680 episode we got two big scare sequences. I think the 180 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:34,600 first scare was good up until a point, and then 181 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:38,519 I think the second scare was uh, had some really 182 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:42,679 rough effects going on here. I understood why they did 183 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,480 the effects because the concerns riding a bicycle, but man, 184 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:49,600 these kids do not look good on said bicycle. You know, 185 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,480 it was it was it was, I don't know, it was. 186 00:08:53,639 --> 00:08:55,320 It took me right out of it, so I couldn't 187 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,559 really connect with the scene. So but I thought the 188 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,240 episode ended strongly And yeah, I'm still I think we 189 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:03,039 Neil talked about that where I think the discord we 190 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,320 talk about that too, people back and forth with how 191 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,240 they feel. I'm completely fine the pacing of penny Wise 192 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:10,480 even still now, like being in the show, because again, 193 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,759 technically penny Wise is the entity or the whatever it is. 194 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:16,039 And then this entity is all over the show, right, 195 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,120 like every time there's a scare thing that that is 196 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,759 penny Wise, just in a different form, right. And again 197 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:22,879 it's two reasons. One Bill Scar's Guards is a lot 198 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:26,399 more expensive nowadays. And two the the like I said before, 199 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:28,200 the movies were like that too. It's two hours. He's 200 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,120 not in that much, so it's a show version of it. 201 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:36,279 So anything else non spoilers. He's taking us in now. Oh, 202 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,320 he mute himself twice. Look at that. This is great, 203 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,879 he's saying. No. So I'm gonna throw an ad break 204 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,440 and we're gonna be right back and go full spoilers. 205 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,639 After this, we are back to Taos looking like me 206 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,960 when I unplugged my microphone. My goodness, holy. 207 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: Shit, my mouth is just like you know, I don't 208 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:57,559 turn my computer on for like two weeks. It just 209 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,320 just shits the bed. 210 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: That Wi Fi was gonna be good, but. 211 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:04,919 Speaker 2: It's definitely not Wi Fi. This is computer computer related. 212 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,519 Speaker 1: Okay, Holy Fox, it happens. Uh, where are you gonna start? 213 00:10:12,039 --> 00:10:16,519 Speaker 2: I would like to highlight for me this episode was 214 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:19,320 Dick Calan when they set him into the skies. He 215 00:10:19,399 --> 00:10:21,960 goes up there with the major and he again this 216 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:28,240 this this ties in with, uh, with the Headhunt show. 217 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:35,679 You know, Dexter christ James, not Christian Slater Christian. So 218 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,840 he sends him up there, he sends I ran up 219 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,159 there with the sling shot, which again I too, am 220 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,240 really on board with that. I really like this kind 221 00:10:42,279 --> 00:10:46,240 of how his story is more than just a military leader. 222 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,919 Speaker 1: And apparently his sling shot is just like the eternal 223 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,480 weakness of of anywise because obviously Beverly uses that in 224 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,320 the movies, and then now in this show a slingshot 225 00:10:57,399 --> 00:10:59,399 takes him out and the scare, so I guess you 226 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:01,679 just need to slip shot to take down this clown. 227 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,759 Speaker 2: You know, slink shot. Yeah, more powerful than a gun, 228 00:11:03,879 --> 00:11:09,519 that's for sure, apparently. Yeah. But yeah, the him taking 229 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,320 that sling shot and then him like sensing and being 230 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,279 able to kind of like see where the entity is, 231 00:11:17,399 --> 00:11:19,960 all this kind of stuff. When it gets to the 232 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,639 point where he's in the sewer and penny Wise is 233 00:11:23,759 --> 00:11:27,759 like caravan thing opens up and you just see the 234 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,799 eyes and penny Wise is like, who are you? It's like, 235 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:35,759 holy fuck, this is just this is so ominous and intense. 236 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:39,200 I was eating it. But by the spoonfuls. I love 237 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:40,639 that sequence so much. 238 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:44,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that was a really good sequence because obviously 239 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,559 I can't remember, like the Steam King books all kind 240 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,279 of in the same universe, and there is like the 241 00:11:49,399 --> 00:11:51,600 Dark Tower that sometimes brings elements from all of them, 242 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:53,960 but there's never like a crossover sort of element. Right, 243 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,519 So this idea too of as far as and even 244 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,320 if we're just working in the movie world, right, don't 245 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,519 even stick to the book or the Tim Curry one, 246 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:04,200 just the movie one, other than they kind of in 247 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,120 chapter two. Hint that Bev kind of has some almost 248 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,080 foresight powers, right where she can maybe send some things 249 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,519 that are gonna happen before they happen. And even that 250 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:15,519 that's just like a somewhat of a premonition, right, It's 251 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,679 not big. It's not like what Dick. He's like feeling 252 00:12:17,759 --> 00:12:19,960 all objects. He's you know, like a magnet for the stuff. 253 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,200 As we've talked about with the shining in our retrospect 254 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:23,360 for how we need to check that out and just 255 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,919 in general. So it is interesting where I feel like 256 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,279 I don't know what is going to be. I know 257 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:29,759 Dick could be a threat. I just don't know if 258 00:12:29,759 --> 00:12:31,919 they're going to actually interact, like if Dick and the 259 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:34,960 penny Wise are going to interact. But for the penny 260 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,080 Wise perspective, it must feel kind of off putting because 261 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,840 obviously we got the next tales are in the eighties 262 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,600 and then in the two thousands. Also, we don't know 263 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:46,480 what's gonna happen in the nineteen o eight and after. 264 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,519 But at least from what we've seen, he's never encountered 265 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,320 someone with a just maybe full on supernatural sort of 266 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:55,799 ability i'll call it what Dick has. So I think 267 00:12:55,799 --> 00:12:58,720 it's it's off putting to him because that's not what 268 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:01,159 he would be expecting, right, wouldn't be expecting to find 269 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,720 all the anybody that has any semblance of his power. 270 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:06,759 I'm not saying Dick is any more powerful than what 271 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:09,279 penny Wise could be, no, but the fact that it's 272 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:15,159 somebody that could have any sort of slight percentage similarities 273 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,080 to him as far as feeling somethings that aren't there 274 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,200 these visions, and because the visions other kids and people 275 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,240 feel are usually brought on by penny Wise, right, he's 276 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:26,480 the one inducing them. Where this is almost dick. I 277 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:28,799 feel like he's kind of almost like intercepting it. It's 278 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:32,200 almost like he like penny Wise has accidentally dropboxed his 279 00:13:32,519 --> 00:13:34,879 next visions or his layer and he's like, you know 280 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:36,639 whatever he said, like you said like who are you 281 00:13:36,799 --> 00:13:39,000 or what are you? And that that was good And 282 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,600 I really do hope they interact. I don't know if 283 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,240 it's gonna happen, but obviously Penwise has interacted with adults 284 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,759 in the any Shitty movies, So no, I thought that 285 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,440 was a really good moment. And then yeah, when he 286 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,960 makes some mean he's just on the plane, you gonna 287 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,639 take down this whole plane of everybody, Dirk, what are 288 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,639 you doing? They're just I think they maybe got to 289 00:13:57,639 --> 00:14:00,960 strap him down for some of these flights. But uh no, 290 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,080 that was good. And he's obviously getting closer to uh 291 00:14:03,919 --> 00:14:06,159 oh god, not Mike, not with Lee Roy. He's getting 292 00:14:06,159 --> 00:14:10,159 closer to Lee Roy and he's and that's what's it's 293 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,480 very interesting all this stuff as far as with these 294 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,759 two and I agree with you. My highlight was I 295 00:14:17,879 --> 00:14:21,200 forgot about that. And then with the James Lamar and 296 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,440 I can't remember the character's name, but this episode started 297 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,000 with a flashback of a boy going through the woods 298 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:28,840 seeing creepy stuff. I really liked the creepy or No, 299 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,600 he's in the circus, yeah, in nineteen oh eight, which 300 00:14:32,679 --> 00:14:34,440 is funny because that's where it's like, Okay, we've heard 301 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,600 if they do a season three, it's gonna go there. 302 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:40,600 So they're already kind of like weaving themselves in. So 303 00:14:40,679 --> 00:14:44,399 he's in the circus, very creepy, very dark. Animushitty the 304 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,440 director of the movies, and a couple episodes in flash 305 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,879 he was the one playing the piano. I'm not sure 306 00:14:48,919 --> 00:14:51,440 if you saw that guy, but oh yeah, that's the director. 307 00:14:51,559 --> 00:14:54,360 So but anyways, they get have there. I think the 308 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,240 creepy old guy with the missing eye was to me 309 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:02,159 almost like creepy enough. I like, I get it, you 310 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,080 wanted to be like otherworldly and something like a movie monster. 311 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,519 But when he I got less scared when he turned 312 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:12,399 into the gigantic monster. And because I feel like that 313 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:15,360 archetype in that design looks very similar to a lot 314 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:18,080 of the other monsters that Muschetti likes, like with that 315 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,200 pregnancy one, with the one that bev in chapter two 316 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,320 when the old lady turns into that big naked creature. 317 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:27,559 He likes some very like skinny like skinny arms and 318 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:29,679 legs with kind of like a bigger, rounder body than 319 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,960 like a long neck. So the designs are kind of similar. 320 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,600 So to me that and especially it's not like the 321 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,159 kid was like whatever, dude like the kid was already 322 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,639 super fearful of just the almost naked old man with 323 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,679 one eye. To me, I actually thought that was fine 324 00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:45,759 because that's almost it's like when he's pennywise, right, it's 325 00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:48,399 almost more realistic. That's just just imagine that you bumped 326 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:50,639 into this guy at the circus and he's just falling 327 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,000 you over and over. But they obviously because I still 328 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:54,799 think you could have that effect of shooting the guy 329 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,480 that slingshew and it runs away. But that's what I well, 330 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:58,840 I guess I would say, how did you feel about 331 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,840 that scare? Before I moves in the direction of the 332 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,399 the old circus man with one eye? 333 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,039 Speaker 2: I I the CGI was definitely a lot, but I 334 00:16:08,279 --> 00:16:12,039 I really liked it. I liked how his friend I 335 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:15,879 can't remember her name, but she is a I'll try 336 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,039 and get it an indigenous culture, and she's there, and 337 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,759 it's that's something I'm again. We'll break that down later, 338 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,879 but I'm really liking again how uh the local. 339 00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:32,039 Speaker 1: So he's Francis, and then I will find her name, 340 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,320 so her and and her her community, her culture, Like 341 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,559 they're so familiar with this, right, they know that Pennywise 342 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:40,440 is the thing here. Yeah, and I like that. 343 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: I like that a lot. And so when she's freaking out, 344 00:16:42,039 --> 00:16:43,480 like don't go in there, open there, he goes in there. 345 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,080 And then yeah, the whole setup though, where it's just 346 00:16:46,159 --> 00:16:48,200 all these trees and then the creepy one I mean 347 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,519 was like leaning out from every different tree. That was 348 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:53,799 freaky as hell. That was really really well done. But yeah, 349 00:16:54,159 --> 00:16:59,440 him transforming into the like the long, skinny, scraggly gollum 350 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:01,559 like thing. I just took it as Okay, well, he's 351 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,480 not playing around anymore. He's in his killing. Oh this 352 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,960 is him. He's obviously gonna go for the kill. So 353 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,839 he gets a little bit more penny Wise Rose the name. 354 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: Rose Francis and Rose Rose is the one that they 355 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,000 is the girl that saves him, and that to me 356 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,160 was a big thing of it was the two fur 357 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:24,160 of one because we had talked about this that we've 358 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,160 been talking about with these kids, right, because obviously we 359 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,200 met the first kid that was in the car the 360 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,279 you know, the out he died, demon baby whatever, and 361 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,960 then ind at the end of epso one all his 362 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:37,400 other kids Suyes. Also we've met a couple other we 363 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,480 obviously know the the black kid and here Mike or 364 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,279 it's Will Hamlin. He becomes Mike Hamlin's dad, but he 365 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,960 dies in a fire, so that would kind of make 366 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,839 sense of Okay, he he he might know about Penny Wise, 367 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,400 but if he dies in a fire, he's not gonna 368 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,279 be able to tell his son about it. 369 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:53,519 Speaker 2: Right. 370 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,079 Speaker 1: Don't know what the excuse is for Leroy because Leroy 371 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,799 is in chapter one. He's the one that's with Mike, 372 00:17:57,839 --> 00:17:59,880 like putting down the cow with like the bolt and whatnot. 373 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,839 But maybe he just forgets he's old, or maybe he 374 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,920 just writes off like it doesn't matter. But we have 375 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,039 talked about the other kids of Okay, we kind of assumed, 376 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:09,599 like we kind of thought with the Losers Club that 377 00:18:09,799 --> 00:18:12,480 was the big deal. They got away, right, somehow these 378 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:15,240 kids band together, they'd beat Pennywise, they survive. But now 379 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:17,720 already we've seen that there's one person that maybe they 380 00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:21,720 weren't intimately like hunted down by penny Wise or this entity, 381 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:25,559 but they did survive and strike it and they are 382 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,920 there forty years later, right, And that's what we're wondering. 383 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,160 So that does give some chance of these kids surviving, 384 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:34,039 you know, Like obviously we know that Will Hamlin does 385 00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:35,440 because he gets to go on and have Mike. But 386 00:18:35,759 --> 00:18:38,079 some of these other people, maybe they might survive and move. 387 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:41,599 And again I don't know why. The losers, I guess 388 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,559 they feel they they're just that strong. They feel like 389 00:18:43,599 --> 00:18:44,920 they make a pack and got to come back to 390 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,599 stop it. But that's where now with them showing that 391 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:51,440 Rose has been alive and at least interacted with the 392 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,240 entity that I hate that the entity. When I say that, 393 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,279 I think of fucking mission impossible. But like I'll just 394 00:18:58,319 --> 00:19:01,559 say it, when they interact with it, that she survived, right, 395 00:19:01,759 --> 00:19:05,640 So that's where some of these kids could still survive too. Kids. 396 00:19:05,799 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: I give Rose the absolute edge though, considering she already 397 00:19:09,519 --> 00:19:12,799 knew about it, and she clearly knows a lot more. 398 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,519 She's that nod and knows how to handle dealing with 399 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:17,799 this thing. So I think going into adulthood it gives 400 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:21,079 her a huge home field game advantage than any of 401 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:21,920 what these kids have. 402 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,519 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but it still should have kids, and kids survived. 403 00:19:24,559 --> 00:19:27,240 She's still kid though, right, she may kids, But. 404 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,839 Speaker 2: I think again too, like they, I absolutely know how 405 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,440 that she she's aware as a character of this thing's origins, 406 00:19:35,559 --> 00:19:37,759 of how it gets contained and probably the twenty seven 407 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:39,880 year cycle, everything along those lines. I think she is 408 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,559 familiar with and so that's where she has the absolute 409 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,440 edge of survival over those other kids. Yes, like this 410 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:50,039 is we've seen kids survive, so kids will definitely survive. 411 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,799 But I just think she's on like a god teer 412 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,440 where she's just like, oh, I know where not to 413 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:56,319 go and how to deal with this thing. 414 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: So loser clubs does that? Can all put all the 415 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,319 loser club on a god teer as well too? They 416 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,519 all survived, Penny Wise in a chapter. 417 00:20:05,319 --> 00:20:08,319 Speaker 2: One they did, and you know they they got to 418 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,119 a point where they really were able to learn a lot. 419 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,799 And I can't remember his name. You said it, Mike 420 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,000 hal No, Yeah, he stayed behind right, Well, yeah, so 421 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:19,119 he figured out he figured out the ritual and figured 422 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,319 out how to put it back in the box, right, 423 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,599 Which is interesting when I'm pretty sure the military folks 424 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,400 they're trying to figure that out and they want to 425 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:29,559 not just get the entity, but probably learn about this 426 00:20:29,759 --> 00:20:31,680 this ritual, get the stones or the pillars or whatever 427 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,160 it is they need to kind of contain, uh, penny 428 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,400 Wise or whatnot. 429 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: But I like how. 430 00:20:39,079 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: I just call it Christian slayers, remember his fucking other names? 431 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:48,480 So he I like how when they clarified, like, okay, 432 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:50,000 he left and he came back, and he's like, then 433 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:52,519 he started to remember whether he was going remember anything. 434 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:54,839 And I like that, And it just makes the military 435 00:20:55,279 --> 00:20:59,559 aspect a little bit more powerful because like it's it's 436 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,880 it's definitely a self preservation, a self defense kind of 437 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:08,319 mechanism that penny Wise can employ. So them being here 438 00:21:08,519 --> 00:21:10,839 and threatening, like, I'm curious, what is that going to 439 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,440 lead up to? When Halauran's like, hey, we you know, 440 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:16,000 we were supposed to see it, but it saw us back, 441 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,480 and so what is it going to lead to? Something? 442 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:20,400 Is something bad is going to happen because of this? 443 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? And yeah, and he's already in sitting waying that like, 444 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,000 maybe this isn't a good idea, maybe we should just 445 00:21:26,079 --> 00:21:27,720 kind of start like we didn't. It kind of was 446 00:21:27,799 --> 00:21:31,400 the Ian Malcolm thing, right, we asked could we do it? 447 00:21:31,759 --> 00:21:33,519 Before we asked why we should do it? Right? And 448 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:36,880 I feel like he's starting to get that modu because 449 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,160 I feel obviously has the powers he's drawn to he's 450 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,960 using it. But now I feel like when you see 451 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:44,319 penny Wise and a little bit of the version of 452 00:21:44,319 --> 00:21:47,799 the Dead Lights, it might go, Okay, maybe we misthought 453 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,039 this and maybe it's something we can't contain. And I 454 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,599 feel that's maybe the route they're going to go, because 455 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,200 we talked about this before of okay, where it's gonna end. 456 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:58,119 Last week they talked about they're going to the idea 457 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,279 is to use this as a weapon against rash sure, right, 458 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:03,279 because it's in that era. So of course, just like effort. 459 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,680 Me and Dalan talked about this last week in the 460 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,359 interview where I said, I'm kind of sick of it. 461 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,400 It happens in superhero projects, but I feel like there's 462 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,039 so many projects like you watch The Gorge this year, right, Yeah, yeah, 463 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,519 like the same thing of oh, what's going to be 464 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:16,920 down there. Oh well, it's a government weapon. I'm very 465 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,319 tired of the plot of it's what we do, this 466 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,759 big evil thing, Well, we're gonna use it for the government, 467 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:24,119 and say, okay, I get that, but I feel this 468 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,119 has to break down, right, We've kind of also said 469 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,839 that with it chapter one. If all's military and all 470 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:32,319 these people know about it, it feels all that it's 471 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,440 that it is just still kind of just working seamlessly 472 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:38,000 by itself, right, that's the thing. 473 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: So something happens and they back off, think we can't 474 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,480 contain this, and they leave it, which is not very 475 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,599 characteristically correct for the military of the United States. I 476 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,759 feel like whatever happens, they they lose their memory, they 477 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,240 they move, they they leave the area, and then they 478 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:53,359 forget about it, right, like. 479 00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:56,319 Speaker 1: They all just die and they just say or like 480 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,319 government wise, they're like, oh, it's a it was a 481 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,640 training accident or an explosion accident, right, something like that, 482 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,240 which we've seen all the time. So yeah, it could 483 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:09,200 be that. So but to go back before I forget 484 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,279 really liked both things of James Lamar One that he's 485 00:23:12,319 --> 00:23:15,039 been there and he's interacted with that, and I don't 486 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:18,160 know if he's remembered that yet he it felt like 487 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,319 he didn't let on if he did he remembered, because 488 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,079 he's starting to remember the area. And he said when 489 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,000 he looked down the document, because obviously Rose's people are 490 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,000 trying to go against this digging kind of stop it, 491 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,960 and he's saying, we're gonna push forward because it means 492 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,400 something good. He said, when he saw the name, he 493 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,240 started to remember her, but he didn't say that you 494 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:35,759 remember like a scary old man that became a monster, right. 495 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,160 So I wonder if he has remembered that and he's 496 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,039 just riting the office I was a dumb kid with 497 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,759 bad memory, or if that's gonna come back later. I 498 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,079 almost wonder if he gets too close to whatever they're 499 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,119 digging to and that maybe sparks some memories right to 500 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,039 kind of jog that back, and that'll be interesting. So 501 00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:54,319 I liked it both that it seemed like he had 502 00:23:54,319 --> 00:23:56,400 a connection with Rose. They kind of already insinuated it 503 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,319 was maybe semi romantic or like a school crush, because 504 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,559 he as he was leaving, he was like looking at 505 00:24:01,599 --> 00:24:03,319 her longley, and then they flash back to him as 506 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:05,079 a kid like looking at her Longley, right, so I 507 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,839 guess there's maybe some sort of you know, one that 508 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359 got away sort of feeling because he was moving, But no, 509 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:13,559 I liked it made me now more. I always like 510 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,880 jeans Ormar because I feel like he is a character 511 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,160 actor that a lot of times does the same thing, 512 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,799 but I like what he does. But now it's given 513 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,240 me some more connection with this character of Okay, he 514 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,960 was in the past, and now he's kind of connected 515 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,000 with Rose in this way that you know, well to 516 00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:30,119 see how it goes down. Right Now they're opposed, but 517 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,759 maybe he will go with there, and maybe that's the excuse, right, 518 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:35,359 Maybe they're gonna use the excuse of, ah, we don't 519 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,440 want to upset the community, so we're gonna stop digging 520 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,599 and not do anything else. Maybe they'll kind of use 521 00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:41,440 that as a scapegoat of like, oh, for the people, 522 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,079 we've decided not to move forward this project, but they 523 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,599 really know something's bad and maybe in a shitty way 524 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,160 kind of like leave them with the bag, right, like 525 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,440 leave the instead of maybe that's it too. They just 526 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,880 get scared to go any further. Instead of even dealing 527 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,680 with the problem, they just leave it. And then they 528 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,640 leave Darry to deal with it because they don't want 529 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,480 any more people dying or whatnot, right, So yeah. 530 00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:03,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, and that'll be interesting when we see 531 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:05,519 the Major kind of be pulled more into this because 532 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:09,519 when Halaran was like, the Major figured it out, like, okay, 533 00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:11,640 you can read minds and fadeo, you were one of 534 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,200 the guys that was in the room that night when 535 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,960 you were assaulting me, And I like that whole setup. 536 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,599 But I like, he's just like, yeah, I can remember 537 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,359 that feeling in the back of my head. But I 538 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,880 like that Hallaran kind of picked him a little bit, 539 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,680 and I was like, you know, most people think about 540 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,559 their family, they think about this or that, but in 541 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,960 that moment, you were thinking, uh, you were observant and 542 00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:34,319 you were analyzing, and that's someone I don't want to 543 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,440 fuck with. Yeah, And so I like, Okay, now we're 544 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,240 going to see how this character is going to squaff 545 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,640 against penny Wise, because when Halaran was in there, penny 546 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,559 Wise was caught up guard and was like who are you? 547 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,359 And then after about five ten seconds, Pennywise then starts 548 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,680 dropping the fear tactic on him and making him panic 549 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:52,119 and freak out. And so I'm curious to see how 550 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:54,279 the major's going to do. If the major doesn't have 551 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,319 that fear factor, then I mean, penny wise, what's he 552 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,720 going to do? He can't do much. So when we 553 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:01,839 get that kind of face off, I'm really looking forward 554 00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:02,000 to that. 555 00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: Well, he can't do much to him. But always go 556 00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:07,200 off the ones you love, right, because they didn't do 557 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,799 this in the movies at all, and I think it 558 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,960 happens in the book. Remember Bill this episode in Tim 559 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:16,400 Curry series where he's married and then when he comes 560 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,680 back to Darry office, he's like a grown man, but 561 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,799 it like kidnaps his wife and like makes his wife 562 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,559 kind of like paralyzed and like coma toast and he 563 00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:26,519 has like ride the bike to wake her up. So 564 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,319 they didn't do that in the movies. But you could 565 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,000 maybe stretch to that, right, whether it's Will, whether it's 566 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,839 the wife or any other people. So you could use 567 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,559 that in some sort of way. Again, you gotta be 568 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,279 careful how far you go, Like the Army one is 569 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,799 the the most tiptoey one because they it's it's a 570 00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:45,640 big deal because they're doing dig site since the Army, 571 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,920 But you also can't go too big because there's a 572 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,880 sequel in twenty seven years where you know, the kids, 573 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,079 the army's not there to help them, you know. So 574 00:26:55,759 --> 00:27:00,319 anything else about Rose or Jeans or mar to Color, Well. 575 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:03,039 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see if rosemanges to enforce the 576 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:08,920 like land like hey, don't be coming into our sacred 577 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,960 lands kind of thing or not with the federal government. 578 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,359 So maybe the government does intervene and says, hey, you 579 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,960 guys got to back off here with your site surveys 580 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,240 for a pipeline, and like ultimately, like you leave Darry, 581 00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,400 you start to forget about everything that happened there. So 582 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,119 I think that'll just play off into Rose's advantage. Yeah. 583 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the other thing I was gonna say with 584 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,440 the kids, I was very surprised last week seemed like 585 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,160 Lily going back to the asylum was gonna be a 586 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,160 really big story. I said it to Dylan. I was like, oh, man, 587 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,559 a whole episode of Lily an asylum. You can do 588 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,839 two things. One, you can just pop off with different 589 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,279 type of scare scenarios and pennywise taking advantage. And two 590 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,720 I thought that was same one with Roe survived. Maybe 591 00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:51,720 we could meet someone else because of the movies, we 592 00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:54,119 didn't get this. We had to Henry Bauers, But what 593 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,079 if there's other people in that asylum that have also 594 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,279 been like affected by Penny Wise before too right that 595 00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:01,359 maybe they didn't get on aiden, but they're in there 596 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,119 like Henry Bowers was, where his life's just completely messed up, right, 597 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,440 So I thought, oh, there's tons of room for good 598 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:10,759 scares and story potential. We didn't see any of that. No, no, 599 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,599 that was a thing in this episode. So I was 600 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,279 kind of surprised that last week they kind of us 601 00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:18,200 as a cliffhanirer like, oh Lily's going and they sign 602 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:22,079 Lemon really didn't really didn't give us much at all, 603 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:22,559 you know. 604 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,599 Speaker 2: Which shout outs to uh to Bowers as well, because 605 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,039 we get to see this is his grandfather. 606 00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the piece of guy like that. 607 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,799 Speaker 2: He's definitely a piece of ship. But he it sucks 608 00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:36,759 because he meant well at the start, like he wasn't 609 00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:40,599 gonna arrest the Ronnie's dad because it's like, hey, there's 610 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160 no evidence he didn't do anything. And then these two 611 00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:46,960 two idiots come up like, hey, you need to we 612 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:48,200 all know we did it. You need to do it, 613 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,240 or we're gonna vote someone in that is gonna do it. 614 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,440 And it forces his hand, which sucks. 615 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: Because this is what me and don't talk about, which 616 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,440 I thought was waiting for. The scene was weird they 617 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,119 did that, But then he also the tender kick the 618 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,000 black guys at the bar. 619 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: That's because well, that's because he asked them to get 620 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,559 kicked out the bar like the cop. Like the cop. Yeah, 621 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,079 bow powers, he asked the bartender to kick him out. 622 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:14,119 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. He like they talked to him 623 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,160 and he's like, well, I'm not just gonna rest him 624 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,319 because he's you know, like they were pretty much just 625 00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:21,839 saying he did it, he needs the evidence, blah blah blah, 626 00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:23,680 and they kind of make him look like a good cop, 627 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,480 like no, I'm gonna fall by the book, I gotta 628 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:28,599 do this, but then ten seconds later they make him racist. 629 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,720 So I didn't understand what they were going for in 630 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:32,720 that scene of oh, he's a good guy, but then 631 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:34,400 you know those people that aren't white, get them out 632 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,160 of my bar. It was like, well, like he didn't 633 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,720 say I just wished to with bartender with bartender and 634 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,640 they got added there, so I just I feel like 635 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,839 he there And even this episode now I feel like 636 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:43,960 they're making more to be a piece of shit guy. 637 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,559 I don't know what the deal is why he wasn't arrested. 638 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,119 I guess maybe he's all those pieces of shit that 639 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,880 wanted to fall stuff by the book, but uh, yeah, 640 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,720 do you remember him from any horror franchise that we've 641 00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:57,599 reatro before. I told Dylan that's he's William and Saw 642 00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:03,119 six the like Farmer Care there. Saw six is my 643 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,160 fair next to solid Ones and I like that one. 644 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,480 But yeah, he's like the he's uh Kramer's uh what 645 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,799 is it healthcare insurance guy that like screws him over 646 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,640 like John that's protocol. We don't. Yeah, so there's that 647 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,359 going on. Let's see here, Yes, we got to talk 648 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:21,319 about that. Yeah. So the we got to the ending. 649 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:23,920 You know, kids making a plan. They're getting mork it together. 650 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,960 That's good to see. We get the boys kind of bonding, 651 00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:29,039 Lili and Ronnier kind of got this plan to you know, 652 00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:30,799 get the dad out, make it seem like he didn't 653 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,079 kill these kids, which is obviously a good thing. They 654 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,079 go to the graveyard, which I just knew, Okay, well, 655 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,079 this is gonna go well for them, Like if you 656 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:39,279 go anywhere dark in a IT movie, it's soccer but 657 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:41,480 in a graveyard, nonetheless not looking good. 658 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 659 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: I liked the seed in concept. I really liked the 660 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,680 end when Will was in like the crypt and just 661 00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:48,880 the penny Wise hand and the photo. It was kind 662 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,839 of surprised. I thought the photo was gonna be like 663 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,799 a big close up photo, but he was like super 664 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,400 far away. I was like, what happened? Because it literally 665 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,200 was like he grabbed him and he took the photo right, 666 00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:00,880 So I guess penny Wise could just stended his arm up, 667 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,680 but it just felt it felt a little odd in 668 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:06,440 that sense. But I liked the scene except for once 669 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,039 I got on those bikes. Once they got on the 670 00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:11,000 bikes and the kids were shot up and it's like 671 00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,319 their waist and they're going like this, you could tell 672 00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,039 they're just on a lot somewhere with a green screen 673 00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,640 with smoke, and if they weren't, they had to be 674 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,039 because they're biking. But just it looks like the old 675 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,759 school when people were drying, like hey, can you how 676 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,960 was your day? And like you'd see the background of 677 00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:29,400 like the sixties movies when it's just okay, that's none 678 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,359 of that's real. So that's oneing they took me out. 679 00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:33,319 Like I liked the ghosts. I thought they're they're like 680 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,599 a fun idea, but maybe it got too big. Again, 681 00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:38,440 if it's a budgetary thing, what I would have done 682 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,599 is just kept the creepy old man creepy and then 683 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,519 use all the budget for that monster on this bike thing. 684 00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,680 Because it's just I couldn't lock out of the that 685 00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:47,680 shot because and anytime they went to somebody, it was 686 00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:50,880 that same shot, and it was this blue sky it was. 687 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, it was float away on their bikes 688 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,279 or something. 689 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: It did not look like they're on actual ground. It 690 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,119 looked it looked very et like. But the idea of 691 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,119 the dead kids popping up trying to get them, that 692 00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:02,960 was fun, you know. 693 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,839 Speaker 2: M h Yeah, I like that. And they were, yeah, 694 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,440 they were freaky and and whatnot. But none of them 695 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,799 could hold that camera for the no fucking life of them. Jesus. Like, 696 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,279 if I successfully got that photo, I'd be hanging on 697 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,720 to it like crazy. But again, it was a it 698 00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:22,559 was a nice octane, high action sequence with these ghosts 699 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,400 just following them whatnot. But for me, what just really 700 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,799 got me giddy was when Will was all alone in 701 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,599 the crypt and you just know penny Wise is coming 702 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,400 around and getting in there, and yeah, I first split 703 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:40,599 second thought that he did get killed, only because of 704 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,119 just that first episode. It just kind of sets the 705 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,160 bar like, Okay, yeah, no, one's really safe. 706 00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:48,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought there was a chance until I remember 707 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,640 that he's Mike's dad from the movies, so I thought, okay, 708 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,279 he has to be safe, right. But yeah, for a 709 00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,880 second I thought, Okay, he gotta get taken out, that 710 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,400 was it. But uh no, he's alive. And we heard 711 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,400 his voice, we saw his eyes, we saw his hand, 712 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,519 then we saw photo. I don't know if it's next 713 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,079 I feel like next week, if we don't see penny Wise, 714 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:10,119 I bet the episode could like end with penny Wise 715 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,799 like the same way this episode end with the photo, 716 00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:13,640 would end with like a full shot because then we're 717 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,680 because how many is this eight episodes? Right? I think 718 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,960 it was? Let me take a look here at the 719 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,640 gv's schedule. It is it is eight episodes, So wait 720 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,920 a second episode go away calendar? Okay, yeah, so it's 721 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,880 to me that would make sense. We're episode four, you 722 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,640 kind of end with maybe a first full look of 723 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,599 penny Wise, and then you proceed to get more of 724 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,599 them throughout. So that's what I think's gonna happen. I 725 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,519 think that's all the notes I got here for this episode. 726 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,920 Anything else we haven't touched upon. You're muted if you're talking, 727 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:59,240 Oh my fucking god, No, Taylor Fear, just mute as Mike. 728 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, God damn. Uh No, I don't think I got 729 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,599 anything else. Like, I highlighted everything, and most of the 730 00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,160 stuff I was highlighting was just the Dick Hannauran stuff. 731 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,360 But again like, yeah, the great Beyrard bikes. You talked 732 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,920 about that already, but uh. 733 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: It's Dick Holleran on Hannah Ran. I think I heard 734 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,920 you say that a couple of times, and I was like, 735 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,559 am Holleran Holleran h A L L O r A. 736 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,199 Speaker 2: What did I? 737 00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:25,119 Speaker 1: Hannah Ran? 738 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,519 Speaker 2: I said, Hannah, am is a very high chance, I said, Hannah, d. 739 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: No, you did multile times hall and then oh and 740 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,880 then ran with the next r end. 741 00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 2: So I was typing Dick Halloway on Google. I was like, 742 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,239 why can I find this fucking Guy's information. 743 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,119 Speaker 1: Is not getting up when he searched Dick Halloway, Dick 744 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,360 hall Away. Okay, let's see, Oh who is this? He's in. 745 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, this isn't what I'm looking for. 746 00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:49,039 Speaker 1: Oh, he's still live. 747 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: He's just he's he's welcome to Dary good. 748 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,639 Speaker 1: No, he's not. He's a Scottish writer, broadcaster and cleric. Okay, cool, 749 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,360 good for shut. I think he's still alive too, He's 750 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,639 not all. I don't want to confirm. I don't want 751 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,920 to say for sure, but it looks like he's. Yeah, 752 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,840 it looks like he's ninety one and still kicking, so 753 00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:11,239 good for, good for. And technically he goes by Richard 754 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,400 all what. 755 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: You called him? Right, Like someone's name is Richard, you 756 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,360 call him Dick or vice versa. 757 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so that's the same way as like Dick 758 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:25,400 Grayson is wrong, like Richard Grayson, like his full name. 759 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 2: But that's why you could say Dick Reid. Oh no, 760 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,480 Red Dix read Richard. 761 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you can shorten last names though, I 762 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,320 don't think that's how that works. But Dix, Yeah, that 763 00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:45,159 that's something. But just like the way, there's like Richard 764 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,239 Ryder in the MCU, so there is a Dick Rider 765 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,840 or the Marvel universe. That's no was yeah, no, that's 766 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,599 why I always call Robin Richard. I don't call it. 767 00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:55,880 For a while in DC, they were really trying to 768 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,199 get people call him Rick, but that didn't really stick, 769 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,199 like Rick Grayson. It didn't really. But Richard's fine. I've 770 00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:03,360 always said this, my last little rant here has nothing 771 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,840 to do with it, So you can chop out now. 772 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,519 But if they do the movies, I know it's his name. 773 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,199 I just don't know in twenty twenty five if you're 774 00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:13,119 gonna have a character named Dick Grayson and it's like, 775 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,920 kids don't laugh and make fun of him, and Dick 776 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,039 didn't like that. I guess maybe when Batman Ron was 777 00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:23,039 created in nineteen forty four, so maybe just Dick wasn't 778 00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,440 a big slang back then. But now it just kind 779 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,079 of seems a little funny. But yeah, we'll see what 780 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,480 Richard Hallway and Dick Holleran are up to next week. 781 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,480 And yeah, we promise wouldn't war back. It'll not be worn. 782 00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:36,519 Speaker 2: Bye bye