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Speaker 2: So yeah, episode two. So I was coming off of
a big highway that first episode, and I wasn't sure
what we're gonna get in that second episode. And so
episode two rolls around, and yeah, I really liked the
I guess I can say it. Halloran, Dick Halloran, his
character officially like boom, he's in here and I am
eating everything up with him. I'm really really loving it,
and I just I think I'm loving it even more
because we did our Shining retro and just having that
character so like heavy on my mind right now and
just having being able to I don't even have to
head canonate. I can think in my mind, like, Okay,
this character before he dies in the Shining, he's here,
He's in dairy done shit, And I just really really
liked this. I think it's it's super awesome. And I
like how we've got the formation of our new crew
of characters too. That's that's coming together here. And yeah,
we just we get a little bit more kind of
context on what's going on on the military base, which
is kind of exciting. But yeah, ultimately though, once we
get into this third episode, I was really really jabbing
with it. There was a lot going on that I'm
stoked with the military storyline, narrative. I'm really enjoying that stuff.
With this new group of kids. I'm really really happy
with this group of kids too, and it's just it's
really really working for me. There was something that was shared.
I think it was a super bad mic in the discord.
He was talking about how or maybe it was s Pobs,
I can't remember. I apologize. It was the amount of
time that scars Guard has playing the clown Pennywise in
the show, at least in the first four episodes. I
think it was the first few episodes, was in the
entire season, but it was definitely a very very small amount,
and you know I saw that. I definitely was like, uh,
you know, okay, but going through these episodes and getting
the different levels of fear and like craziness, like, I'm
really really okay with it. I'm very happy with them
not just giving us the clown all the time and
in every single episode, like, don't do that build up
the hype and anticipation and so you know, it's not
a spoiler, but when you get to a moment where
you get like a two second glimpse of like the
Scar's Guard in the clown suit, it's like, oh fuck,
Like it's the real deal, and you feel terrified because
it's like, oh the og, like he's right here and
not just one of the terrifying little illusions that's that's
that's present. Instead, you know, a lot of the illusions
so far have been very frightening and freaky. Especially on
this episode, you get some crazy, crazy stuff going on
that I was really really enjoying in episode one and two.
I feel like there was a consistent theme with birthing
in that second episode, it was that was a really
disgusting sequence. Oh yeah, that was Ronnie and just I
was like, holy shit, that felt like some nightmare on
Elm Street. Stuff.
Speaker 1: Definitely the whole like it's all like the movies even
felt like that. But this season definitely feels like that
a lot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but I'm I'm I'm eating this up. This
is actually becoming one of my favorite shows right now.
I'm just I'm loving this. I'm really really loving I'm
really excited just for next Sunday, just to see where
we're at. And the way this episode concluded, its chills
down my spine, like it had like goosebumps. So I
didn't think, like this plan that was acted here, I
didn't think it would come true. I didn't think it
would work, but it, you know, it was. It left
a very very intense cliffhanger. And again too, just Dick
Klauran's character dealing with the with the major and stuff
like that. Just there's just little things here that I'm
just I'm giddy about. I'm really excited about so this.
This episode was fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoyed this so far. I'm enjoying the whole
show so far. I think the way i'd rank them
right now is last week was my favorite. I'd put
this week. I think this week and one are pretty equivalent.
I think there's some strengths and weakness for both of them.
I think there's some stuffle top on spoilers. I was
really excited to get too and then they went over
it really fast. I was like, oh, dang, that sucks.
It was like a calm, but I was like, it
felt like the weight of the situation that happened. It
was kind of it. He's kind of like we talked
about in episode one where it ended on not a cliffhanger,
but a big thing and you weren't here for the
discussion last week, but the beginning of the episode when
they may look like it was a dream sequence, I
was like, oh no, did that not happen? And then
they're like, oh no, did that kind of felt like
this week where they did somewhere else, some big, something
really crazy, gonna have one of our characters now week,
and then very quickly we move over that. So that's fine.
So yeah, again, I like that the kids are starting
to form a connection. But again they're not the Losers
Club in a sense where they're not best friends other
than Beverly that are together and figuring this all out there.
They're friendly, but there's like a I don't know, an
egregious sort of relationship between them, especially Ronnie and Lily.
You know, they're not the the They're just kind of
work together because they have to. They're not friends. So
that was good. Yeah, I agree. I like all the
dick caller and stuff. And I like the guy that
plays Deck Coller and he's been playing a good job. Yeah,
and I liked I think they revealed actually with James
from our character, I wasn't sure what we're going they
get with him. I thought, because we've seen this many times,
you know, in Little Worlds about Oppenheimer Pineapple Express, where
he is just generic army guy, you know, and I
thought that's what he was gonna be. And they revealed
some about his story that I think makes that character
more interesting and makes the show more interesting because I
think there's a big spoiler thing that we've talked about
a few times that kind of gave us an answer here,
and I'm not neither four against it. I was just like, Okay,
I wonder what the situation is going on with this
because that's not something that's really talked about in the movies.
But also the show's a little bit different, and yeah,
it's it's funny that I feel like if they are
doing the we get season two and three, it feels
like they're already stringing those together. So no, I enjoyed
this episode. I don't think it was as good as
last week. Last week I really enjoyed it. I think
the scares were I think there's it seems like every
episode we got two big scare sequences. I think the
first scare was good up until a point, and then
I think the second scare was uh, had some really
rough effects going on here. I understood why they did
the effects because the concerns riding a bicycle, but man,
these kids do not look good on said bicycle. You know,
it was it was it was, I don't know, it was.
It took me right out of it, so I couldn't
really connect with the scene. So but I thought the
episode ended strongly And yeah, I'm still I think we
Neil talked about that where I think the discord we
talk about that too, people back and forth with how
they feel. I'm completely fine the pacing of penny Wise
even still now, like being in the show, because again,
technically penny Wise is the entity or the whatever it is.
And then this entity is all over the show, right,
like every time there's a scare thing that that is
penny Wise, just in a different form, right. And again
it's two reasons. One Bill Scar's Guards is a lot
more expensive nowadays. And two the the like I said before,
the movies were like that too. It's two hours. He's
not in that much, so it's a show version of it.
So anything else non spoilers. He's taking us in now. Oh,
he mute himself twice. Look at that. This is great,
he's saying. No. So I'm gonna throw an ad break
and we're gonna be right back and go full spoilers.
After this, we are back to Taos looking like me
when I unplugged my microphone. My goodness, holy.
Speaker 2: Shit, my mouth is just like you know, I don't
turn my computer on for like two weeks. It just
just shits the bed.
Speaker 1: That Wi Fi was gonna be good, but.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not Wi Fi. This is computer computer related.
Speaker 1: Okay, Holy Fox, it happens. Uh, where are you gonna start?
Speaker 2: I would like to highlight for me this episode was
Dick Calan when they set him into the skies. He
goes up there with the major and he again this
this this ties in with, uh, with the Headhunt show.
You know, Dexter christ James, not Christian Slater Christian. So
he sends him up there, he sends I ran up
there with the sling shot, which again I too, am
really on board with that. I really like this kind
of how his story is more than just a military leader.
Speaker 1: And apparently his sling shot is just like the eternal
weakness of of anywise because obviously Beverly uses that in
the movies, and then now in this show a slingshot
takes him out and the scare, so I guess you
just need to slip shot to take down this clown.
Speaker 2: You know, slink shot. Yeah, more powerful than a gun,
that's for sure, apparently. Yeah. But yeah, the him taking
that sling shot and then him like sensing and being
able to kind of like see where the entity is,
all this kind of stuff. When it gets to the
point where he's in the sewer and penny Wise is
like caravan thing opens up and you just see the
eyes and penny Wise is like, who are you? It's like,
holy fuck, this is just this is so ominous and intense.
I was eating it. But by the spoonfuls. I love
that sequence so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that was a really good sequence because obviously
I can't remember, like the Steam King books all kind
of in the same universe, and there is like the
Dark Tower that sometimes brings elements from all of them,
but there's never like a crossover sort of element. Right,
So this idea too of as far as and even
if we're just working in the movie world, right, don't
even stick to the book or the Tim Curry one,
just the movie one, other than they kind of in
chapter two. Hint that Bev kind of has some almost
foresight powers, right where she can maybe send some things
that are gonna happen before they happen. And even that
that's just like a somewhat of a premonition, right, It's
not big. It's not like what Dick. He's like feeling
all objects. He's you know, like a magnet for the stuff.
As we've talked about with the shining in our retrospect
for how we need to check that out and just
in general. So it is interesting where I feel like
I don't know what is going to be. I know
Dick could be a threat. I just don't know if
they're going to actually interact, like if Dick and the
penny Wise are going to interact. But for the penny
Wise perspective, it must feel kind of off putting because
obviously we got the next tales are in the eighties
and then in the two thousands. Also, we don't know
what's gonna happen in the nineteen o eight and after.
But at least from what we've seen, he's never encountered
someone with a just maybe full on supernatural sort of
ability i'll call it what Dick has. So I think
it's it's off putting to him because that's not what
he would be expecting, right, wouldn't be expecting to find
all the anybody that has any semblance of his power.
I'm not saying Dick is any more powerful than what
penny Wise could be, no, but the fact that it's
somebody that could have any sort of slight percentage similarities
to him as far as feeling somethings that aren't there
these visions, and because the visions other kids and people
feel are usually brought on by penny Wise, right, he's
the one inducing them. Where this is almost dick. I
feel like he's kind of almost like intercepting it. It's
almost like he like penny Wise has accidentally dropboxed his
next visions or his layer and he's like, you know
whatever he said, like you said like who are you
or what are you? And that that was good And
I really do hope they interact. I don't know if
it's gonna happen, but obviously Penwise has interacted with adults
in the any Shitty movies, So no, I thought that
was a really good moment. And then yeah, when he
makes some mean he's just on the plane, you gonna
take down this whole plane of everybody, Dirk, what are
you doing? They're just I think they maybe got to
strap him down for some of these flights. But uh no,
that was good. And he's obviously getting closer to uh
oh god, not Mike, not with Lee Roy. He's getting
closer to Lee Roy and he's and that's what's it's
very interesting all this stuff as far as with these
two and I agree with you. My highlight was I
forgot about that. And then with the James Lamar and
I can't remember the character's name, but this episode started
with a flashback of a boy going through the woods
seeing creepy stuff. I really liked the creepy or No,
he's in the circus, yeah, in nineteen oh eight, which
is funny because that's where it's like, Okay, we've heard
if they do a season three, it's gonna go there.
So they're already kind of like weaving themselves in. So
he's in the circus, very creepy, very dark. Animushitty the
director of the movies, and a couple episodes in flash
he was the one playing the piano. I'm not sure
if you saw that guy, but oh yeah, that's the director.
So but anyways, they get have there. I think the
creepy old guy with the missing eye was to me
almost like creepy enough. I like, I get it, you
wanted to be like otherworldly and something like a movie monster.
But when he I got less scared when he turned
into the gigantic monster. And because I feel like that
archetype in that design looks very similar to a lot
of the other monsters that Muschetti likes, like with that
pregnancy one, with the one that bev in chapter two
when the old lady turns into that big naked creature.
He likes some very like skinny like skinny arms and
legs with kind of like a bigger, rounder body than
like a long neck. So the designs are kind of similar.
So to me that and especially it's not like the
kid was like whatever, dude like the kid was already
super fearful of just the almost naked old man with
one eye. To me, I actually thought that was fine
because that's almost it's like when he's pennywise, right, it's
almost more realistic. That's just just imagine that you bumped
into this guy at the circus and he's just falling
you over and over. But they obviously because I still
think you could have that effect of shooting the guy
that slingshew and it runs away. But that's what I well,
I guess I would say, how did you feel about
that scare? Before I moves in the direction of the
the old circus man with one eye?
Speaker 2: I I the CGI was definitely a lot, but I
I really liked it. I liked how his friend I
can't remember her name, but she is a I'll try
and get it an indigenous culture, and she's there, and
it's that's something I'm again. We'll break that down later,
but I'm really liking again how uh the local.
Speaker 1: So he's Francis, and then I will find her name,
so her and and her her community, her culture, Like
they're so familiar with this, right, they know that Pennywise
is the thing here. Yeah, and I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. And so when she's freaking out,
like don't go in there, open there, he goes in there.
And then yeah, the whole setup though, where it's just
all these trees and then the creepy one I mean
was like leaning out from every different tree. That was
freaky as hell. That was really really well done. But yeah,
him transforming into the like the long, skinny, scraggly gollum
like thing. I just took it as Okay, well, he's
not playing around anymore. He's in his killing. Oh this
is him. He's obviously gonna go for the kill. So
he gets a little bit more penny Wise Rose the name.
Speaker 1: Rose Francis and Rose Rose is the one that they
is the girl that saves him, and that to me
was a big thing of it was the two fur
of one because we had talked about this that we've
been talking about with these kids, right, because obviously we
met the first kid that was in the car the
you know, the out he died, demon baby whatever, and
then ind at the end of epso one all his
other kids Suyes. Also we've met a couple other we
obviously know the the black kid and here Mike or
it's Will Hamlin. He becomes Mike Hamlin's dad, but he
dies in a fire, so that would kind of make
sense of Okay, he he he might know about Penny Wise,
but if he dies in a fire, he's not gonna
be able to tell his son about it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Don't know what the excuse is for Leroy because Leroy
is in chapter one. He's the one that's with Mike,
like putting down the cow with like the bolt and whatnot.
But maybe he just forgets he's old, or maybe he
just writes off like it doesn't matter. But we have
talked about the other kids of Okay, we kind of assumed,
like we kind of thought with the Losers Club that
was the big deal. They got away, right, somehow these
kids band together, they'd beat Pennywise, they survive. But now
already we've seen that there's one person that maybe they
weren't intimately like hunted down by penny Wise or this entity,
but they did survive and strike it and they are
there forty years later, right, And that's what we're wondering.
So that does give some chance of these kids surviving,
you know, Like obviously we know that Will Hamlin does
because he gets to go on and have Mike. But
some of these other people, maybe they might survive and move.
And again I don't know why. The losers, I guess
they feel they they're just that strong. They feel like
they make a pack and got to come back to
stop it. But that's where now with them showing that
Rose has been alive and at least interacted with the
entity that I hate that the entity. When I say that,
I think of fucking mission impossible. But like I'll just
say it, when they interact with it, that she survived, right,
So that's where some of these kids could still survive too. Kids.
Speaker 2: I give Rose the absolute edge though, considering she already
knew about it, and she clearly knows a lot more.
She's that nod and knows how to handle dealing with
this thing. So I think going into adulthood it gives
her a huge home field game advantage than any of
what these kids have.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but it still should have kids, and kids survived.
She's still kid though, right, she may kids, But.
Speaker 2: I think again too, like they, I absolutely know how
that she she's aware as a character of this thing's origins,
of how it gets contained and probably the twenty seven
year cycle, everything along those lines. I think she is
familiar with and so that's where she has the absolute
edge of survival over those other kids. Yes, like this
is we've seen kids survive, so kids will definitely survive.
But I just think she's on like a god teer
where she's just like, oh, I know where not to
go and how to deal with this thing.
Speaker 1: So loser clubs does that? Can all put all the
loser club on a god teer as well too? They
all survived, Penny Wise in a chapter.
Speaker 2: One they did, and you know they they got to
a point where they really were able to learn a lot.
And I can't remember his name. You said it, Mike
hal No, Yeah, he stayed behind right, Well, yeah, so
he figured out he figured out the ritual and figured
out how to put it back in the box, right,
Which is interesting when I'm pretty sure the military folks
they're trying to figure that out and they want to
not just get the entity, but probably learn about this
this ritual, get the stones or the pillars or whatever
it is they need to kind of contain, uh, penny
Wise or whatnot.
Speaker 1: But I like how.
Speaker 2: I just call it Christian slayers, remember his fucking other names?
So he I like how when they clarified, like, okay,
he left and he came back, and he's like, then
he started to remember whether he was going remember anything.
And I like that, And it just makes the military
aspect a little bit more powerful because like it's it's
it's definitely a self preservation, a self defense kind of
mechanism that penny Wise can employ. So them being here
and threatening, like, I'm curious, what is that going to
lead up to? When Halauran's like, hey, we you know,
we were supposed to see it, but it saw us back,
and so what is it going to lead to? Something?
Is something bad is going to happen because of this?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And yeah, and he's already in sitting waying that like,
maybe this isn't a good idea, maybe we should just
kind of start like we didn't. It kind of was
the Ian Malcolm thing, right, we asked could we do it?
Before we asked why we should do it? Right? And
I feel like he's starting to get that modu because
I feel obviously has the powers he's drawn to he's
using it. But now I feel like when you see
penny Wise and a little bit of the version of
the Dead Lights, it might go, Okay, maybe we misthought
this and maybe it's something we can't contain. And I
feel that's maybe the route they're going to go, because
we talked about this before of okay, where it's gonna end.
Last week they talked about they're going to the idea
is to use this as a weapon against rash sure, right,
because it's in that era. So of course, just like effort.
Me and Dalan talked about this last week in the
interview where I said, I'm kind of sick of it.
It happens in superhero projects, but I feel like there's
so many projects like you watch The Gorge this year, right, Yeah, yeah,
like the same thing of oh, what's going to be
down there. Oh well, it's a government weapon. I'm very
tired of the plot of it's what we do, this
big evil thing, Well, we're gonna use it for the government,
and say, okay, I get that, but I feel this
has to break down, right, We've kind of also said
that with it chapter one. If all's military and all
these people know about it, it feels all that it's
that it is just still kind of just working seamlessly
by itself, right, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: So something happens and they back off, think we can't
contain this, and they leave it, which is not very
characteristically correct for the military of the United States. I
feel like whatever happens, they they lose their memory, they
they move, they they leave the area, and then they
forget about it, right, like.
Speaker 1: They all just die and they just say or like
government wise, they're like, oh, it's a it was a
training accident or an explosion accident, right, something like that,
which we've seen all the time. So yeah, it could
be that. So but to go back before I forget
really liked both things of James Lamar One that he's
been there and he's interacted with that, and I don't
know if he's remembered that yet he it felt like
he didn't let on if he did he remembered, because
he's starting to remember the area. And he said when
he looked down the document, because obviously Rose's people are
trying to go against this digging kind of stop it,
and he's saying, we're gonna push forward because it means
something good. He said, when he saw the name, he
started to remember her, but he didn't say that you
remember like a scary old man that became a monster, right.
So I wonder if he has remembered that and he's
just riting the office I was a dumb kid with
bad memory, or if that's gonna come back later. I
almost wonder if he gets too close to whatever they're
digging to and that maybe sparks some memories right to
kind of jog that back, and that'll be interesting. So
I liked it both that it seemed like he had
a connection with Rose. They kind of already insinuated it
was maybe semi romantic or like a school crush, because
he as he was leaving, he was like looking at
her longley, and then they flash back to him as
a kid like looking at her Longley, right, so I
guess there's maybe some sort of you know, one that
got away sort of feeling because he was moving, But no,
I liked it made me now more. I always like
jeans Ormar because I feel like he is a character
actor that a lot of times does the same thing,
but I like what he does. But now it's given
me some more connection with this character of Okay, he
was in the past, and now he's kind of connected
with Rose in this way that you know, well to
see how it goes down. Right Now they're opposed, but
maybe he will go with there, and maybe that's the excuse, right,
Maybe they're gonna use the excuse of, ah, we don't
want to upset the community, so we're gonna stop digging
and not do anything else. Maybe they'll kind of use
that as a scapegoat of like, oh, for the people,
we've decided not to move forward this project, but they
really know something's bad and maybe in a shitty way
kind of like leave them with the bag, right, like
leave the instead of maybe that's it too. They just
get scared to go any further. Instead of even dealing
with the problem, they just leave it. And then they
leave Darry to deal with it because they don't want
any more people dying or whatnot, right, So yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, and that'll be interesting when we see
the Major kind of be pulled more into this because
when Halaran was like, the Major figured it out, like, okay,
you can read minds and fadeo, you were one of
the guys that was in the room that night when
you were assaulting me, And I like that whole setup.
But I like, he's just like, yeah, I can remember
that feeling in the back of my head. But I
like that Hallaran kind of picked him a little bit,
and I was like, you know, most people think about
their family, they think about this or that, but in
that moment, you were thinking, uh, you were observant and
you were analyzing, and that's someone I don't want to
fuck with. Yeah, And so I like, Okay, now we're
going to see how this character is going to squaff
against penny Wise, because when Halaran was in there, penny
Wise was caught up guard and was like who are you?
And then after about five ten seconds, Pennywise then starts
dropping the fear tactic on him and making him panic
and freak out. And so I'm curious to see how
the major's going to do. If the major doesn't have
that fear factor, then I mean, penny wise, what's he
going to do? He can't do much. So when we
get that kind of face off, I'm really looking forward
to that.
Speaker 1: Well, he can't do much to him. But always go
off the ones you love, right, because they didn't do
this in the movies at all, and I think it
happens in the book. Remember Bill this episode in Tim
Curry series where he's married and then when he comes
back to Darry office, he's like a grown man, but
it like kidnaps his wife and like makes his wife
kind of like paralyzed and like coma toast and he
has like ride the bike to wake her up. So
they didn't do that in the movies. But you could
maybe stretch to that, right, whether it's Will, whether it's
the wife or any other people. So you could use
that in some sort of way. Again, you gotta be
careful how far you go, Like the Army one is
the the most tiptoey one because they it's it's a
big deal because they're doing dig site since the Army,
But you also can't go too big because there's a
sequel in twenty seven years where you know, the kids,
the army's not there to help them, you know. So
anything else about Rose or Jeans or mar to Color, Well.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see if rosemanges to enforce the
like land like hey, don't be coming into our sacred
lands kind of thing or not with the federal government.
So maybe the government does intervene and says, hey, you
guys got to back off here with your site surveys
for a pipeline, and like ultimately, like you leave Darry,
you start to forget about everything that happened there. So
I think that'll just play off into Rose's advantage. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the other thing I was gonna say with
the kids, I was very surprised last week seemed like
Lily going back to the asylum was gonna be a
really big story. I said it to Dylan. I was like, oh, man,
a whole episode of Lily an asylum. You can do
two things. One, you can just pop off with different
type of scare scenarios and pennywise taking advantage. And two
I thought that was same one with Roe survived. Maybe
we could meet someone else because of the movies, we
didn't get this. We had to Henry Bauers, But what
if there's other people in that asylum that have also
been like affected by Penny Wise before too right that
maybe they didn't get on aiden, but they're in there
like Henry Bowers was, where his life's just completely messed up, right,
So I thought, oh, there's tons of room for good
scares and story potential. We didn't see any of that. No, no,
that was a thing in this episode. So I was
kind of surprised that last week they kind of us
as a cliffhanirer like, oh Lily's going and they sign
Lemon really didn't really didn't give us much at all,
you know.
Speaker 2: Which shout outs to uh to Bowers as well, because
we get to see this is his grandfather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the piece of guy like that.
Speaker 2: He's definitely a piece of ship. But he it sucks
because he meant well at the start, like he wasn't
gonna arrest the Ronnie's dad because it's like, hey, there's
no evidence he didn't do anything. And then these two
two idiots come up like, hey, you need to we
all know we did it. You need to do it,
or we're gonna vote someone in that is gonna do it.
And it forces his hand, which sucks.
Speaker 1: Because this is what me and don't talk about, which
I thought was waiting for. The scene was weird they
did that, But then he also the tender kick the
black guys at the bar.
Speaker 2: That's because well, that's because he asked them to get
kicked out the bar like the cop. Like the cop. Yeah,
bow powers, he asked the bartender to kick him out.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. He like they talked to him
and he's like, well, I'm not just gonna rest him
because he's you know, like they were pretty much just
saying he did it, he needs the evidence, blah blah blah,
and they kind of make him look like a good cop,
like no, I'm gonna fall by the book, I gotta
do this, but then ten seconds later they make him racist.
So I didn't understand what they were going for in
that scene of oh, he's a good guy, but then
you know those people that aren't white, get them out
of my bar. It was like, well, like he didn't
say I just wished to with bartender with bartender and
they got added there, so I just I feel like
he there And even this episode now I feel like
they're making more to be a piece of shit guy.
I don't know what the deal is why he wasn't arrested.
I guess maybe he's all those pieces of shit that
wanted to fall stuff by the book, but uh, yeah,
do you remember him from any horror franchise that we've
reatro before. I told Dylan that's he's William and Saw
six the like Farmer Care there. Saw six is my
fair next to solid Ones and I like that one.
But yeah, he's like the he's uh Kramer's uh what
is it healthcare insurance guy that like screws him over
like John that's protocol. We don't. Yeah, so there's that
going on. Let's see here, Yes, we got to talk
about that. Yeah. So the we got to the ending.
You know, kids making a plan. They're getting mork it together.
That's good to see. We get the boys kind of bonding,
Lili and Ronnier kind of got this plan to you know,
get the dad out, make it seem like he didn't
kill these kids, which is obviously a good thing. They
go to the graveyard, which I just knew, Okay, well,
this is gonna go well for them, Like if you
go anywhere dark in a IT movie, it's soccer but
in a graveyard, nonetheless not looking good.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I liked the seed in concept. I really liked the
end when Will was in like the crypt and just
the penny Wise hand and the photo. It was kind
of surprised. I thought the photo was gonna be like
a big close up photo, but he was like super
far away. I was like, what happened? Because it literally
was like he grabbed him and he took the photo right,
So I guess penny Wise could just stended his arm up,
but it just felt it felt a little odd in
that sense. But I liked the scene except for once
I got on those bikes. Once they got on the
bikes and the kids were shot up and it's like
their waist and they're going like this, you could tell
they're just on a lot somewhere with a green screen
with smoke, and if they weren't, they had to be
because they're biking. But just it looks like the old
school when people were drying, like hey, can you how
was your day? And like you'd see the background of
like the sixties movies when it's just okay, that's none
of that's real. So that's oneing they took me out.
Like I liked the ghosts. I thought they're they're like
a fun idea, but maybe it got too big. Again,
if it's a budgetary thing, what I would have done
is just kept the creepy old man creepy and then
use all the budget for that monster on this bike thing.
Because it's just I couldn't lock out of the that
shot because and anytime they went to somebody, it was
that same shot, and it was this blue sky it was.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it was float away on their bikes
or something.
Speaker 1: It did not look like they're on actual ground. It
looked it looked very et like. But the idea of
the dead kids popping up trying to get them, that
was fun, you know.
Speaker 2: M h Yeah, I like that. And they were, yeah,
they were freaky and and whatnot. But none of them
could hold that camera for the no fucking life of them. Jesus. Like,
if I successfully got that photo, I'd be hanging on
to it like crazy. But again, it was a it
was a nice octane, high action sequence with these ghosts
just following them whatnot. But for me, what just really
got me giddy was when Will was all alone in
the crypt and you just know penny Wise is coming
around and getting in there, and yeah, I first split
second thought that he did get killed, only because of
just that first episode. It just kind of sets the
bar like, Okay, yeah, no, one's really safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought there was a chance until I remember
that he's Mike's dad from the movies, so I thought, okay,
he has to be safe, right. But yeah, for a
second I thought, Okay, he gotta get taken out, that
was it. But uh no, he's alive. And we heard
his voice, we saw his eyes, we saw his hand,
then we saw photo. I don't know if it's next
I feel like next week, if we don't see penny Wise,
I bet the episode could like end with penny Wise
like the same way this episode end with the photo,
would end with like a full shot because then we're
because how many is this eight episodes? Right? I think
it was? Let me take a look here at the
gv's schedule. It is it is eight episodes, So wait
a second episode go away calendar? Okay, yeah, so it's
to me that would make sense. We're episode four, you
kind of end with maybe a first full look of
penny Wise, and then you proceed to get more of
them throughout. So that's what I think's gonna happen. I
think that's all the notes I got here for this episode.
Anything else we haven't touched upon. You're muted if you're talking,
Oh my fucking god, No, Taylor Fear, just mute as Mike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God damn. Uh No, I don't think I got
anything else. Like, I highlighted everything, and most of the
stuff I was highlighting was just the Dick Hannauran stuff.
But again like, yeah, the great Beyrard bikes. You talked
about that already, but uh.
Speaker 1: It's Dick Holleran on Hannah Ran. I think I heard
you say that a couple of times, and I was like,
am Holleran Holleran h A L L O r A.
Speaker 2: What did I?
Speaker 1: Hannah Ran?
Speaker 2: I said, Hannah, am is a very high chance, I said, Hannah, d.
Speaker 1: No, you did multile times hall and then oh and
then ran with the next r end.
Speaker 2: So I was typing Dick Halloway on Google. I was like,
why can I find this fucking Guy's information.
Speaker 1: Is not getting up when he searched Dick Halloway, Dick
hall Away. Okay, let's see, Oh who is this? He's in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, this isn't what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's still live.
Speaker 2: He's just he's he's welcome to Dary good.
Speaker 1: No, he's not. He's a Scottish writer, broadcaster and cleric. Okay, cool,
good for shut. I think he's still alive too, He's
not all. I don't want to confirm. I don't want
to say for sure, but it looks like he's. Yeah,
it looks like he's ninety one and still kicking, so
good for, good for. And technically he goes by Richard
all what.
Speaker 2: You called him? Right, Like someone's name is Richard, you
call him Dick or vice versa.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so that's the same way as like Dick
Grayson is wrong, like Richard Grayson, like his full name.
Speaker 2: But that's why you could say Dick Reid. Oh no,
Red Dix read Richard.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can shorten last names though, I
don't think that's how that works. But Dix, Yeah, that
that's something. But just like the way, there's like Richard
Ryder in the MCU, so there is a Dick Rider
or the Marvel universe. That's no was yeah, no, that's
why I always call Robin Richard. I don't call it.
For a while in DC, they were really trying to
get people call him Rick, but that didn't really stick,
like Rick Grayson. It didn't really. But Richard's fine. I've
always said this, my last little rant here has nothing
to do with it, So you can chop out now.
But if they do the movies, I know it's his name.
I just don't know in twenty twenty five if you're
gonna have a character named Dick Grayson and it's like,
kids don't laugh and make fun of him, and Dick
didn't like that. I guess maybe when Batman Ron was
created in nineteen forty four, so maybe just Dick wasn't
a big slang back then. But now it just kind
of seems a little funny. But yeah, we'll see what
Richard Hallway and Dick Holleran are up to next week.
And yeah, we promise wouldn't war back. It'll not be worn.
Speaker 2: Bye bye