Speaker 1: So we've made it through the first month of the season.
Speaker 1: Kansas is undefeated and unscathed November for your Kansas basketball Jayhawks.
Speaker 1: But what is this just a quarter of the way
Speaker 1: into our season, maybe not even a quarter, more like
Speaker 1: a fifth of the way end of the season, and
Speaker 1: we already got a co host on load management with
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: Going on there he went to the Lebron James school
Speaker 2: of load management. It's funny because Lebron James didn't go
Speaker 2: to school.
Speaker 1: L Landon Fields. I don't know. You can start calling
Speaker 1: him that. Does that work?
Speaker 2: That's fine?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it works. I think you're you're okay,
Speaker 1: you know you're you're You're still new on this show.
Speaker 1: So I understand your hesitance to go against the very loud,
Speaker 1: original itp host. But you can flat out tell me, no, Ryan,
Speaker 1: that sucked. We cannot call him loland In Fields.
Speaker 2: I you know, it actually went over my head that
Speaker 2: you said Lelandon. I'm just figuring this out. That did
Speaker 2: kind of suck. You know what else sucked? The Furman
Speaker 2: of jokes. Yeah, Furman sucked. But also Ryan Day was
Speaker 2: born on third base and he is a fraud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so yeah, but you know what the
Speaker 1: best part of that game was, don't you what's that?
Speaker 1: It was the fight. It was the follow fight that
Speaker 1: happened after Michigan has like a twenty four point underdog,
Speaker 1: goes into Columbus and beats Ohio State. That was great.
Speaker 2: What's your take on that? Because I, like you guys had.
Speaker 2: My whole thing is they had an entire game to
Speaker 2: defend that field, and like, you don't maybe don't plant
Speaker 2: the flag, but you had an entire game two years
Speaker 2: the last two times you played there, and you couldn't
Speaker 2: do it. So don't go tackling people after that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, you have your chance to beat them.
Speaker 1: You knew they were gonna do it. If if Ohio State,
Speaker 1: if the game was in Ann Arbor and Ohio State one,
Speaker 1: they would have planted the flag. That's kind of what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, now they plant the flag and now you
Speaker 1: want to show fight. I'm sorry, did you not think
Speaker 1: you could do it for sixty minutes on the field?
Speaker 1: I thought it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Like I want to see Kansas plant the flag at
Speaker 2: mid court at Missouri Arena in like a week and
Speaker 2: just see what happens.
Speaker 1: Now that be one entertaining, but two not as consequential
Speaker 1: because there's only gonna be like six hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: fans there to get mad, and I don't they all
Speaker 1: have guns, right, But that's yeah, that's the scary part.
Speaker 1: We drove through the Missouri campus earlier in the summer
Speaker 1: whenever my wife and I drove to Nashville. You drive
Speaker 1: right through Columbia and Saint Louis on your way there,
Speaker 1: and Missouri's campus is actually really nice. I was in press.
Speaker 1: Columbia is a pretty upgraded college town, and the campus
Speaker 1: looked great. We happen to be driving by or driving
Speaker 1: through it on the day that the football season began,
Speaker 1: so traffic was ridiculous. But the arena itself looks really old,
Speaker 1: like it just kind of looks like a big, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like a big ice rink, like you know,
Speaker 1: the community ice rinks that are that are in every town.
Speaker 1: That's just kind of what it looked like. Pretty disappointing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Kansas entering a week where they will have
Speaker 1: two road games, both against Midwest opponents that have started
Speaker 1: their season lacklusterly. But you know, still two road tests.
Speaker 1: You told me before we get into Kansas and and
Speaker 1: Furman and as I'm sure that's everybody is just dying
Speaker 1: for us to talk about that. You told me today
Speaker 1: that you went to Ikea for the first time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're in your twenties and a and Ikea.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm twenty eight and I moved to the
Speaker 2: Chicago area within the last couple of days. In my
Speaker 2: apartment right now looks like the Will Smith meme when
Speaker 2: he walks in and there's just nothing but an empty room.
Speaker 2: So I went to Zykea and I bought like a
Speaker 2: side table and then I also bought a chair, and
Speaker 2: I tell you what, like They're so easy to build,
Speaker 2: and it took me six hours between the two projects.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was awful. But yes, I know, I'm
Speaker 2: fully immersed in the Chicago culture here. I got my
Speaker 2: hair chopped up yesterday by a gad that didn't speak
Speaker 2: a lick of English. I went down my eyebrows threaded.
Speaker 2: That was something never I did that once before. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: once dark times.
Speaker 1: We ever would have guessed that that you were threading.
Speaker 2: Guy, I hey man, it is what it is. I
Speaker 2: have no internet, so I have to find stuff to do.
Speaker 1: That's true. No internet, and you're not watching the NFL
Speaker 1: without without a TV streams, so you may as well
Speaker 1: as your eyebrows threaded right absolutely to kick off the
Speaker 1: holiday season.
Speaker 2: Welcome inside the eyebrows, folks.
Speaker 1: Inside the eyebrows.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I am Ryan Landreth, and I am I have one
Speaker 1: more job than Ryan Day will have shortly. That's true, yeah,
Speaker 1: because Ryan Day should not. I mean, geez, the perhaps
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, who's the college basketball equival one
Speaker 1: of Ryan Day? Is it Shire?
Speaker 2: A guy who I think it's Actually that's an amazing take,
Speaker 2: actually mine.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I think Shire. See the thing with
Speaker 1: Shier is I think he has potential to get better.
Speaker 1: I think the whole world knows Ryan Day is just
Speaker 1: a bum.
Speaker 2: I think he is too. And the weird thing about
Speaker 2: Ryan Da he's forty seven and one against Big ten
Speaker 2: teams not named Michigan, but he has not won a
Speaker 2: national title. And they have it is John Shires. They
Speaker 2: have a twenty million dollar nil roster and they got
Speaker 2: beat by a team that had a quarterback who has
Speaker 2: milk jugs for hands. I don't know how, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's well, I gotta tell you, I'm glad that somebody
Speaker 1: but he took an embarrassing loss on the football field
Speaker 1: to really make a disappointing ending to their season, because
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone else who did. Yeah, do we
Speaker 1: have I need to put that on the dam Lance
Speaker 1: and also Jeff Grimes who Baylor in Portland. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: all of them. Jalen Daniels probably the last time you'll
Speaker 1: see him play at this point. And Devin Neil deserved better,
Speaker 1: He really deserved better. Very disappointing ending for the Kansas
Speaker 1: football Jayhawks. Who but we all said that was gonna happen. Like,
Speaker 1: how easy was that to see coming? Let me guess
Speaker 1: you bet on?
Speaker 2: The Hawks did, and I also was. I thought it
Speaker 2: was funny how Kansas football took a note out of
Speaker 2: Bill Soft's page in elimination game losses and lost by
Speaker 2: six hundred points. At least it didn't lose two.
Speaker 1: So yeah, here we are, much like Bill self season
Speaker 1: ending losses. It's they left the door open for us
Speaker 1: to say it was the offense that sucked. Nope, it
Speaker 1: was the defense that sucked. You couldn't go either way
Speaker 1: with it, Like I don't know which one to start
Speaker 1: with just a really disappointing loss. Kansas football does all
Speaker 1: that work and they end their season, the most anticipated
Speaker 1: season in fifteen years. They end with five wins. And
Speaker 1: if you had been told at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: year that they were gonna have a three game winning
Speaker 1: streak against ranked teams, I don't think you would have
Speaker 1: said they go to and seven and the other nine.
Speaker 2: No, I would. I would assume they're in the college
Speaker 2: football playoff.
Speaker 1: Or damn just beat freaking you and l V when
Speaker 1: you lead by eleven and a half time and you
Speaker 1: at least get on a ball game.
Speaker 2: This is a before we get this is the last
Speaker 2: thing I'll say before we get into Furman. But the
Speaker 2: do you remember the fumble against UNLV where there were
Speaker 2: like seven Kansas players around the football? Okay, it's the
Speaker 2: exact same diving on it, and yeah, it's exact same
Speaker 2: thing as the that rebound against Oregon and the Elite
Speaker 2: eight that the last one that went by like four
Speaker 2: Kansas players and led to like a last second shot
Speaker 2: lock three. Same concept by the by Tyler Dorsey, who
Speaker 2: haven't heard from since just he's playing for the Han Tigers.
Speaker 1: Probably yeah, yeah, and he spurned Kansas too. A lot
Speaker 1: of people forget he was a heavy bill self recruit
Speaker 1: that a lot of people thought was a Kansas lock.
Speaker 1: And he winds up going to Oregon and then Nike. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: has a great and you know, of course, now if
Speaker 1: everything was was you know, legal, wink wink, who knows
Speaker 1: what Dorsey would have ended up. Because I need to
Speaker 1: I need to get that drop and have it go
Speaker 1: right whenever it says bills because now it's legal. But yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, the football team let us down. The
Speaker 1: basketball team at least they beat Furman. Right that that
Speaker 1: that to two relatively equal things for us to talk
Speaker 1: about today.
Speaker 2: One step better than Tony Bennett and Virginia.
Speaker 1: Anything, the worst case of diarrhea you've ever had is
Speaker 1: better than as a step better than Tony Bennett. Then
Speaker 1: how is Virginia even doing? By the way, like I
Speaker 1: don't think, well, yeah, Virginia. They beat Manhattan by nine,
Speaker 1: I see lots of sixties and fifties. They lost to
Speaker 1: Saint John's by twenty five the other day, and then
Speaker 1: they lost that's the game of Tennessee where they lost
Speaker 1: sixty four to forty two.
Speaker 2: Like so they haven't taken a step forward or backwards.
Speaker 2: They're pretty much right where they were.
Speaker 1: They are exactly what you thought. Yeah, they're about to
Speaker 1: be five and three and that's that somebody who's not
Speaker 1: five and three. Number one, Kansas eighty six, Furman fifty one.
Speaker 1: I think this is probably the most impressive of the
Speaker 1: bye games thus far, right, like Howard sucks. And then
Speaker 1: they played a couple back to back. They played Wilmington
Speaker 1: and they played Oh who the heck? Else was Oakland?
Speaker 1: You're you're all my manor they played Oakland and those
Speaker 1: were both like eighteen point wins where they weren't they
Speaker 1: were good, not great. This was the bye game where
Speaker 1: they really blew the doors off of who we at
Speaker 1: least thought Entering had some pretty respectable numbers as a team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. And it was ironic because my dad texted
Speaker 2: me and I wasn't able to catch the first part
Speaker 2: the game and he said that Furman had four threes
Speaker 2: in the first seven minutes or something like that. But yeah, overall,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what a number one ranked team
Speaker 2: should do. Hopefully the computers will like this game. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they will, assuming they do not, but yeah,
Speaker 2: really impressive game, and it's a good feeling to see
Speaker 2: Kansas blowout an inferior opponent and not keep it close.
Speaker 1: Did you notice the first National Bank logo on the court?
Speaker 2: I did a little bit. I just I'm not a
Speaker 2: fan of it. I mean, if you're gonna do it,
Speaker 2: at least make it Crimson and blue, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: don't put a green thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my first thought. I didn't even I
Speaker 1: was driving an hour ago and I thought I was
Speaker 1: listening back to our Duke podcast where Landon made the
Speaker 1: joke about how Jeff Grimes can't wait or I think
Speaker 1: it was you actually that made the joke about how
Speaker 1: Jeff Grimes can't wait to put advertisers on the floor,
Speaker 1: And I thought, did they put that logo? And I
Speaker 1: just didn't see it? And I went back and looked,
Speaker 1: and it's there. So it was pretty subtle or irony glasses.
Speaker 1: I don't know which one it was, because I just
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention enough to notice that that logo is
Speaker 1: now there. I still wish it wasn't, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: the eyesore that I feared it would be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just kind of one of those necessary Evils
Speaker 2: with nil I think, but yeah, it's not my favorite.
Speaker 1: So a close first fifteen minutes, as you mentioned, with
Speaker 1: the four to threes early, and it looked like it
Speaker 1: was going to be a real competitive game. It was
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty six Kansas through about fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: and then that wound up being the setting the table
Speaker 1: for what was a total laugher. KU outscored Furman fifty
Speaker 1: nine to twenty five over the final twenty five minutes
Speaker 1: of play. The catalyst was kJ Adams, who provided the
Speaker 1: offensive highlights while KU's defense held Furman's team of a
Speaker 1: pretty pretty well shot I don't know whatever the word is.
Speaker 1: I don't want to call them sharpshooters because you know
Speaker 1: they're they're Furman, but they had shot the ball pretty
Speaker 1: well and Kansas held them to just nine of thirty
Speaker 1: eight from three after they made four of their first seven,
Speaker 1: and under thirty percent from the floor for the game.
Speaker 1: So it was a it was a pretty frustrating game
Speaker 1: for the Paladins, and Kansas's defense they rose to the occasion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's kind of interesting to look at the
Speaker 2: kJ Adams stats from yesterday, and I believe that kJ
Speaker 2: must listened to the pod because ever since we started
Speaker 2: dogging on him a little bit, he's turned into Wilt Chamberlain.
Speaker 2: But you know, that game yesterday was the prime example
Speaker 2: of a matchup where kJ Adams could play exceptionally well.
Speaker 2: And kJ is a really good basketball player. But you
Speaker 2: look at Furman, they're not a very athletic team. They're
Speaker 2: not a super tall team. I mean, you're looking at
Speaker 2: a team, a mid major team. And kJ Adams is
Speaker 2: obviously a really good basketball player, plays a lot of energy.
Speaker 2: But that's a game where he will shine and I'll
Speaker 2: be very curious to see how that holds up in
Speaker 2: Big twelve play or against someone like Creighton.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk all about kJ here in a second.
Speaker 1: But I have a question for you. I know that
Speaker 1: this is a good one to ask because I know
Speaker 1: you're not currently watching the game. So the Bills are
Speaker 1: just completely depanting the forty nine ers on Sunday night
Speaker 1: football in a blizzard, and Josh Ellen's receiving Josh Allen's
Speaker 1: line as a receiver tonight zero receptions, seven yards, one touchdown.
Speaker 1: How is that possible? Sir?
Speaker 2: Zero receptions seven yards.
Speaker 1: In a touchdown yep. Do you know how I'm assuming.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that somebody fumbled and he no, that can't
Speaker 2: be it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're on the right track. Fumble. It is a lateral yeah.
Speaker 1: He he threw a pass to somebody and they were
Speaker 1: about to get tackled and Travis Kelcey styled. The guy
Speaker 1: lateraled it to Josh Allen, who ran in for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So officially that goes into the score book as Josh
Speaker 1: Allen threw a touchdown to Josh Allen, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: That's what I basically he basically kJ Adams after kJ said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do it on both ends and do it all
Speaker 1: myself against Furman. Doing it an NFL game and a
Speaker 1: Blizzard's a little cooler than just been doing it against
Speaker 1: freaking Furman. But you know, my take on Furman is
Speaker 1: how bad are those seven teams that they beat?
Speaker 2: Oh Man, I don't even know who. Honestly, I don't
Speaker 2: even know off the top of my head who they played,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure they were. We'll call them ken palm
Speaker 2: Net merchants.
Speaker 1: Yes that I think the best team they beat is Belmont.
Speaker 1: They beat. They also have a win over Seattle University.
Speaker 1: They have a win over Jacksonville, Tulane, Charleston Southern, and
Speaker 1: then two D two or nai A schools that don't
Speaker 1: have an ESPN page, including a school called Oglethorpe that
Speaker 1: they beat one hundred and twenty four to forty eight.
Speaker 2: Oglethorpe sounds like a guy that would splash in four
Speaker 2: to three pointers in the first half of around a
Speaker 2: thirty two game.
Speaker 1: Ah, that's because you're thinking of Eggle Sedter, who is
Speaker 1: close to those valves. And he did, in fact make
Speaker 1: two threes in the first half. Fun fact, he had
Speaker 1: only made one entering that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of pain, a lot of therapy
Speaker 2: for that one. He also kind of looked like if
Speaker 2: you look at him and you look at the Clash
Speaker 2: of Clan's Giant, he looks very similar to that.
Speaker 1: See I was going with, so the Clash of Klans,
Speaker 1: the Class.
Speaker 2: Of Dead series. Yeah, it's it's it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1: As for the Jayhawks, they are seven to zero now
Speaker 1: for the first time in six years. Had a little
Speaker 1: bit of problems with that stat on the podcast. Last
Speaker 1: time I know this for sure. This time, the last
Speaker 1: time they made it through November without a loss came
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. Similar start to that season. Remember that
Speaker 1: team wound up being really disappointing, but much like this
Speaker 1: one does. That team had a Champions Classic win over
Speaker 1: Michigan State. Not like tom Izzo to lose games. What
Speaker 1: the hell is going on there? And then they all,
Speaker 1: that's that's true. It doesn't go October Izzo December. I
Speaker 1: know that because of John Roth scene. But Kansas that
Speaker 1: year also had a thrilling overtime win over a top
Speaker 1: five Tennessee team, kind of like how this year this
Speaker 1: team has a thrilling win over Duke. That team had
Speaker 1: a lot of early season victories. They were bumped from
Speaker 1: the number one ranking because the Zion Duke team just
Speaker 1: raced out of the gates. But that team started ten
Speaker 1: and oh they were really good, and then injuries start
Speaker 1: and they finished like sixteen and eleven or something like that.
Speaker 1: But this year we have optimism that it will not
Speaker 1: be the same for Kansas. They started they are seven
Speaker 1: to zero for the first time in six years, and
Speaker 1: I know they have two road games, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to the schedule, and I want you
Speaker 1: to tell me I'm gonna read all their games, and
Speaker 1: you stop me when I get to the first loss.
Speaker 1: Here we go at Creighton, at Missouri, North Carolina State, Brown,
Speaker 1: West Virginia.
Speaker 2: Stop it Brown, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: So you gotta if you got them beating West Virginia
Speaker 1: at home, you got them going five and oho in December,
Speaker 1: and then you go at Then you go at UCF
Speaker 1: Arizona State at home, and then it gets interesting because
Speaker 1: they have at Cincinnati, who's currently the only other ranked
Speaker 1: or undefeated team in the Big Twelve. That's a tough game.
Speaker 1: And if you think they get through that one Wednesday
Speaker 1: night at Iowa State is next, oh man, I want
Speaker 1: it's probably one of those. Yeah, And honestly, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: shock me. Every year Kansas has that little stretch where
Speaker 1: they play really poorly, fans freak out inside the paint
Speaker 1: comes out with a hey, don't panic, guys, it's college basketball.
Speaker 2: It'll be fine. Episode. They very well could lose those
Speaker 2: two games back to back and it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: It also wouldn't freak me out that much. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go out on a limb and say they lose at
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and they actually win in games for a little
Speaker 2: bit of a plod twist, but I could definitely see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those. And I don't think the
Speaker 1: Creighton game is easy. What would you say Kansas is
Speaker 1: odds of getting out of this next week at Creighton
Speaker 1: at Missouri undefeated. Is if they if they play that
Speaker 1: sequence ten times, how many times do they win them both?
Speaker 2: I think they win it. Probably six or probably seven
Speaker 2: times out of ten would be my guess. I think
Speaker 2: the Yeah, I mean they're they're they're on paper, they're
Speaker 2: the better team between the two. Missouri's tough, it's a
Speaker 2: rivalry game. That game is going to be fun, but
Speaker 2: they should beat Missouri relatively easily. Creton, on the other end,
Speaker 2: hasn't played well, but they've also had injuries. I still
Speaker 2: think Kansas should should be able to make it through
Speaker 2: those two games. With relatives, they are definitely the better team.
Speaker 2: Creighton scares me more than Missouri because Creighton has a
Speaker 2: lot of talent. It hasn't gelled, but as you said,
Speaker 2: injuries have been a big problem there. But Kansas certainly
Speaker 2: should be favored in both of those games. And if
Speaker 2: they do get past each of those games and they
Speaker 2: get to nine to zero, then.
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at unless you think North Carolina
Speaker 1: State Brown or West Virginia gets him at Allen Fieldhouse,
Speaker 1: you have him at least in January. And and UCF
Speaker 1: you know who knows. They obviously lost their last year
Speaker 1: and they play a stretch where they have four of
Speaker 1: six to open twenty twenty five on the road, with
Speaker 1: two of those games being at teams that are in
Speaker 1: the top fifteen. So but for now, we'll enjoy all
Speaker 1: of the wins that they give us. Okay, you want
Speaker 1: to talk about kJ Adams. I think that it's probably
Speaker 1: time to give him his flowers. He deserves them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, once again, kJ Adams a stout listener of the
Speaker 2: podcast here using it as his mixtape and warm ups. Yeah,
Speaker 2: kJ Adams, he's probably got my voice on repeat. Soon
Speaker 2: to be a big PLAYLF Player of the Week, kJ
Speaker 2: Adams tied a career best twenty two points on ten
Speaker 2: for twelve shooting in twenty seven minutes. He added six
Speaker 2: rebounds and three assistant routes of being the best player
Speaker 2: in the game by a long shot, Furman represents a
Speaker 2: perfect matchup for kJ not a super big team, not
Speaker 2: tons of athleticism kind of a mid major school, which
Speaker 2: is also what you mentioned before. I mean, if kJ
Speaker 2: Adams played the school like Furman, he would be borderline
Speaker 2: all American with.
Speaker 1: His sta oh, he'd be yeah, unbelievable and uh.
Speaker 2: And again, kJ is a very very good basketball player.
Speaker 2: But we've said this for a while. It is so
Speaker 2: matchup dependent.
Speaker 1: Right well, and I you know, rock Chalk Blog, We've
Speaker 1: gotten some interesting comments this week from people who have
Speaker 1: definitely been waiting for kJ to break out, and then
Speaker 1: they've said, you know, hey, you know, he sure showed
Speaker 1: you or you've been dogging on him. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: a fair comment. He has absolutely played great and I
Speaker 1: have been critical of him, so have you, and so
Speaker 1: have several people on Twitter. And none of it comes
Speaker 1: from a venomous spot. None of us dislike kJ. None
Speaker 1: of us want kJ thrown out into the Buffalo snow.
Speaker 1: But it is a It's definitely fair to question whether
Speaker 1: or not kJ Adams, playing not at his best, still
Speaker 1: gives Kansas their optimal lineup. I don't think that there
Speaker 1: is much of a debate when this kJ Adams, the
Speaker 1: guy who is hitting mid range floaters, bringing that athletic
Speaker 1: intensity and all of his secondary pieces to his game,
Speaker 1: his passing, his outlet passing. Whenever you see him dishing
Speaker 1: it down court, you know things are going real well
Speaker 1: for kJ. Whenever he's playing like this. Undoubtedly he's in
Speaker 1: their high ceiling lineup, and we've talked about how he's
Speaker 1: a very matchup dependent player. You just said that in
Speaker 1: the monologue. Furman represents the type of team that you
Speaker 1: would expect kJ to just exploit. They are a team
Speaker 1: that relies on athleticism over height. That's gonna work out
Speaker 1: great in whatever league Furman plays in. kJ Adams level
Speaker 1: athletes different than Furman level athletes. He was always going
Speaker 1: to destroy that team, and height has been his biggest challenge. Well,
Speaker 1: Furman's starting center was six foot eight. Here comes kJ.
Speaker 1: He's more athletic than that guy, even though that guy
Speaker 1: can get away with it. In their mid major conference,
Speaker 1: big twelve level players are going to strut him. Every time.
Speaker 1: kJ looked like Hercules out there. I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: more skeptical to think that this can continue whenever they
Speaker 1: start playing teams with seven footers and a lot of
Speaker 1: the big twelve teams, big big gap in athletes have
Speaker 1: athletic fives who are a lot taller than kJ. Certainly
Speaker 1: kJ deserves a ton of credit. He has played great
Speaker 1: this week and he deserves the Big twelve Player of
Speaker 1: the Week award, which I am sure he will win
Speaker 1: considering he put up the statistical performance here and he
Speaker 1: was fabulous and the the catalyst and their victory over
Speaker 1: Duke on Tuesday night. But pipe the breaks, pump, pipe
Speaker 1: the breaks, pump the breaks on kJ Adams being an
Speaker 1: All American at this point, because we've seen him do
Speaker 1: this again against the Furmans of the world, and whenever
Speaker 1: the rest of the guards around him are playing well,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to be critical because kJ good kJ
Speaker 1: definitely elevates Kansas uh And I think it's he's a
Speaker 1: better fit. He's a better fit than he was last
Speaker 1: year too, because the rest of the guys can shoot,
Speaker 1: so his lack of shooting isn't as much of a liability.
Speaker 1: But we always knew good kJ was a stud. The
Speaker 1: question was can he do this against Big twelve teams?
Speaker 1: Are you convinced?
Speaker 2: No, not yet? And I think he'll It's hard. It's
Speaker 2: hard with kJ because I feel like with Big twelve
Speaker 2: teams going against the size, he won't be able to
Speaker 2: contribute in the box score, and then it becomes more
Speaker 2: of a question of whether it's a liability having him
Speaker 2: on the floor instead of someone like, you know, doing
Speaker 2: the four guard type lineup or I guess aj stores a
Speaker 2: forward or forward, but you know, like to me, it's
Speaker 2: it's more of a it's more of a question mark.
Speaker 2: I can see him playing well, I just don't know
Speaker 2: if he's going to contribute enough with rebounds and points
Speaker 2: to where it's going to help Kansas win games on
Speaker 2: the road at an Iowa State for example.
Speaker 1: Well, and Hunter Dickinson hasn't been the statistical performer that
Speaker 1: we thought he would be for the rest for this
Speaker 1: entire year. In these last two games, one of them
Speaker 1: is because he was thrown out, missed the last you know,
Speaker 1: thirty three percent of a game, and then in this game,
Speaker 1: Bill self has said at the beginning of the year
Speaker 1: that he wants to play, specifically to one and Hunter
Speaker 1: less than they were last year. He's a man of
Speaker 1: his word, he said, he needs to find opportunities to
Speaker 1: get them more rest. And whenever you're blowing Firman out
Speaker 1: feels like a good chance. To me, we didn't see
Speaker 1: those guys for as long as we typically do in
Speaker 1: this game, so I get that. But like Hunter, Dickinson
Speaker 1: is going to be the statistical stalwart that we know
Speaker 1: he is when they start playing in Big twelve games,
Speaker 1: when Hunter stats go up, typically Kj's go down. So
Speaker 1: is kJ going to revert to being kind of a
Speaker 1: laying clogger and make things a little more difficult for
Speaker 1: Kansas's definite leading scorer? Or is he going to be
Speaker 1: able to continue hitting those mid range flotters to continue
Speaker 1: finding open shooters whenever you have Store, Griffin and Mayo
Speaker 1: on the perimeter. If he is, he absolutely should be
Speaker 1: playing thirty minutes a game on this team. But if
Speaker 1: he's not, we've seen how that works last year, and
Speaker 1: it's not all his fault. Whenever other guys aren't hitting
Speaker 1: shots and when Hunter is being bottled up, that's whenever
Speaker 1: they need kJ to bring something that no one else is.
Speaker 1: It worked in this game they weren't hitting threes and
Speaker 1: Hunter wasn't scoring a lot, and kJ put the team
Speaker 1: on his back. I'm a little less convinced that he
Speaker 1: can do that against Big twelve teams, but it remains
Speaker 1: to be seen. So we talk about the Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 1: kJ shines against smaller but more athletic opponents. It wasn't
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson's ideal matchup. He was limited to ten points
Speaker 1: and six rebounds in twenty four minutes, five for eight
Speaker 1: from the floor. Flory Badonga was excellent. Badonga kind of
Speaker 1: is that in between of kJ and Hunter where he's
Speaker 1: a superb athlete, but he's also a lot taller than
Speaker 1: kJ and kind of do both of their both of
Speaker 1: their roles to a lesser extent. Flory had eight and
Speaker 1: six and fifteen minutes and absolute per Foty numbers. Stack
Speaker 1: Stacker is this guy k Ku has three very different
Speaker 1: bigs and whenever they're all working together like this, they're
Speaker 1: a really good front court.
Speaker 2: And thankfully none of us have to do the work
Speaker 2: of figuring out which of these players to play and
Speaker 2: how they fit in the rotation. And also thankfully we
Speaker 2: have a Hall of Fame coach at the helm for Kansas,
Speaker 2: and I do believe over the course of the season
Speaker 2: it will work out more times than that. And I'm
Speaker 2: also a little bit curious on your thoughts of this.
Speaker 2: Do you think Florie's gone after this year.
Speaker 1: I think Florie is talented enough to be an NBA player.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna have the numbers that
Speaker 1: he needs to, but then again, we've seen guys go
Speaker 1: pro after not so I mean, Kelly Youubray was a
Speaker 1: lottery pick after scoring like like nine points a game
Speaker 1: in college. So I don't know how much of it's
Speaker 1: gonna matter. If I had to put my finger on it,
Speaker 1: I will say no, he's not a one and done,
Speaker 1: But I think I think he's got the tools to
Speaker 1: be a very good NBA player.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Agree, that's kind of my level of thinking as well.
Speaker 1: Like if he assuming next year, Florie's back and they're
Speaker 1: gonna lose so many pieces, you have to think that
Speaker 1: sophomore Florie Badounga projects to be a dominant big twelve center. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's a huge part of that team, obviously losing
Speaker 1: Dickinson as well as potentially.
Speaker 2: Well possibly I guess store.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of everyone right, so he he would
Speaker 1: be here only two Yeah, that may have that, and
Speaker 1: they might. They lose kJ they lose Hunter, they lose
Speaker 1: to one, they lose Mayo, and they lose who's.
Speaker 2: The other guy they lose, Zach Clemmons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Zach's got one more year. If he's
Speaker 1: here now, I don't know why, why would he buzz off?
Speaker 2: Maybe Zach Clemmons comes back and has the Mitch Lightfoot
Speaker 2: Big Twelve Player of the Year season that we never saw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever Mitch Lightfoot averaged what Okay, just just a
Speaker 1: blind test, what do you think that Mitch Lightfoot who
Speaker 1: everybody said was a just a critical piece and he
Speaker 1: had a few good games, he had value, I know,
Speaker 1: But what do you think Mitch Lightfoot's numbers were that that.
Speaker 2: Last season, the last season at Kansas.
Speaker 1: If I had to, I would say he probably averaged
Speaker 1: somewhere around four and a half points per game and
Speaker 1: five rebounds per game.
Speaker 2: That's my gas.
Speaker 1: Nailed it with the points, four point six points per game,
Speaker 1: rebounds less than three. Shot sixty six percent from the floor,
Speaker 1: so just about everything they threwed him was a bucket.
Speaker 1: Also barely shot fifty percent at the free throw line.
Speaker 1: Like I heard about how that man was this impactful,
Speaker 1: critical player, and then I see hundred Dickinson get chastise
Speaker 1: for games where he scores eighteen and has ten boards.
Speaker 1: I can't figure out you should.
Speaker 2: You should put a Twitter pull out and say who
Speaker 2: would you rather have leading this team? Hunter Dickinson or
Speaker 2: Mitch Lightfoot senior Mitch likes and there would be at
Speaker 2: least ten percent of fans that would be like, you
Speaker 2: know what, I like the glue guy.
Speaker 1: It would be thirty three percent at least. I did
Speaker 1: you remember the pull last year wherever I said who
Speaker 1: was the better Who's a better college basketball player? Between
Speaker 1: hundred Dickens and Marcus Garrett?
Speaker 2: I can't That makes me want to just.
Speaker 1: Arcus got fifty five percent of those votes. He won them.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be allowed to vote if you said Marcus Garrett. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Landon went out after that show, and that's why he's
Speaker 1: not here today because he saw that poll one more time.
Speaker 2: Bagpipes, don't Jeff.
Speaker 1: The defense. I'm talking about the defense because the defense
Speaker 1: was really good. They held an offense that had posted
Speaker 1: really good numbers, albeit against Horrenda's competition. UNC Wilmington like,
Speaker 1: I get it, but their defense held them under thirty
Speaker 1: percent from the floor, under twenty four percent from three
Speaker 1: and as many turnovers as assists with eleven apiece that's
Speaker 1: quite good. Ken Palm has Kansas into the top ten
Speaker 1: now as the ninth best defense in college basketball. Typically
Speaker 1: Bill self defenses sharpened over the course of a season,
Speaker 1: but this year's defense looks very strong at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the year, and that was kind of the problem.
Speaker 1: And all the teams that Bill has that don't ever
Speaker 1: reach fruition, the offense the primary culprit. But I think
Speaker 1: the moment in all of those seasons where you realize
Speaker 1: that this team just really ain't gonna make it is
Speaker 1: whenever you see them struggle to get stops down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Hasn't been a problem at all with this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they they seem to be closing out on
Speaker 2: perimeter shooters a lot better. It's it's very reassuring to
Speaker 2: see this this early in the season, because, as you said,
Speaker 2: Bill Solf teams typically progress, they don't regress, aside from
Speaker 2: last year, and aside from the year of Gerald Vick
Speaker 2: getting put in the permanent doghouse and losing Udoka Azubuki,
Speaker 2: which I believe is twenty eighteen. So yeah, really really
Speaker 2: good sign for the Jayhawks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, defensive league opponents are shooting just twenty nine percent
Speaker 1: against against Kansas on threes that is top sixty in
Speaker 1: the nation and three points wage against. Right, Yeah, three
Speaker 1: point percentage against isn't a great stat to be like,
Speaker 1: we do this whenever it's on the other end, whenever
Speaker 1: teams are lighting Kansas up from three and people look
Speaker 1: at the percentage and say it's bad defense. So it's
Speaker 1: also not fair to look at the percentage and say
Speaker 1: it's good defense whenever opponents aren't shooting. Well, I agree
Speaker 1: the eye test, they are closing out on shooters. They
Speaker 1: also have better athletes, so it makes sense. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's of all the thing. Like I used to always
Speaker 1: use this example with Land and whenever Kansas, whenever there's
Speaker 1: four main parts here, there's two point shooting, two three
Speaker 1: point shooting, two point defense, three point defense. I can
Speaker 1: tell you right now, whenever Kansas has a game where
Speaker 1: they win it with their two point shooting and it's
Speaker 1: it's apparent. Same with their three point shooting, same with
Speaker 1: their two point defense. They played great interior defense and
Speaker 1: we all saw it whenever they You can't name me
Speaker 1: a game that you said, well, that team lost because
Speaker 1: their three point defense sucked. Like that's really not how
Speaker 1: it works.
Speaker 2: No, it's more or less which team gets hot because
Speaker 2: you're I mean, you're looking at college athletes, especially at
Speaker 2: the high level, you know, Division one. You're you're talking
Speaker 2: about guys that are phenomenal athletes. I don't care if
Speaker 2: you close out on shooters exceptionally well, there's absolutely an
Speaker 2: aspect of luck that goes into it. You've said that
Speaker 2: over the years, and I think from a fundamental perspective, Yeah,
Speaker 2: their perimeter defense has been very good. That being said,
Speaker 2: we've also seen Kansas teams who probably were ranked highly
Speaker 2: in Ken Palm on the defensive metric Fire Bond in
Speaker 2: the Elite eight or round to thirty two. I mean,
Speaker 2: it just happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens. The best Kansas teams last year was
Speaker 1: actually one of the best statistical defensive just so crazy
Speaker 1: teams in the self era and everybody. I think the
Speaker 1: consensus would be that they sucked and they didn't if
Speaker 1: you just go by three point shooting defense, which is
Speaker 1: why it's not a great stat totally agree on. Let's
Speaker 1: move on to some of these guards. Here was another
Speaker 1: efficient game Fordwan Harris. He scored eight points four of
Speaker 1: eight shooting match to the eight points with eight assists
Speaker 1: in twenty six minutes. His assists a turnover ratio through
Speaker 1: seven games is now a sizzling forty three to.
Speaker 2: Ten, which Jalen Daniels could do that.
Speaker 1: Well, and then Kansas may have won. There's a reason
Speaker 1: Kansas basketball won more games in the month of nove
Speaker 1: And there's a reason Kansas basketball won more games after
Speaker 1: just one month of play than Kansas football did. And
Speaker 1: how many months three? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's sad, sad loss. Oh.
Speaker 1: I don't need the whole thing. I just want the there.
Speaker 1: I could definitely use that. That feels like an intro
Speaker 1: whenever Kansas well, wait, do you see what they do
Speaker 1: in the round of thirty two this year? All right,
Speaker 1: tell me about tell me about Zeke Mayo, because I
Speaker 1: do think there's some talking points here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Zeke Mayo struggled shooting the ball again, going three
Speaker 2: for nine overall, one for five from three, finished with
Speaker 2: seven points and six assist in twenty seven minutes. Through
Speaker 2: seven games, he's averaging twelve points per game while shooting
Speaker 2: thirty two percent from three. He is currently four for
Speaker 2: twenty five shooting three since halftime of the North Carolina game.
Speaker 2: Are we concerned about this at all.
Speaker 1: A little bit, not super panicked this early in the year.
Speaker 1: But with each and every game, the am I nervous
Speaker 1: meter goes up like half a point. Is that fair?
Speaker 2: I think it's fair. It actually is kind of the
Speaker 2: same thing in my opinion. Going for the overall team, Yeah,
Speaker 2: some of them we'll head on here in a seck.
Speaker 2: But for zeg Mail, I mean, he's a phenomenal basketball player.
Speaker 2: He's proven over his career that he can make three pointers.
Speaker 2: I still think he will turn that around, but it
Speaker 2: is a pretty substantial slump that he's on. Thankfully it's
Speaker 2: a non conference I'd rather see this now than in
Speaker 2: you know, mid late February, for example, But yeah, it
Speaker 2: is slightly concerning.
Speaker 1: Correct, And Bill self said after the game, he said, overall,
Speaker 1: I'm real happy with where we are as a team,
Speaker 1: but I'm a little concern that we're not shooting thirty
Speaker 1: five percent as a team on as a team from
Speaker 1: three point land, because he said I thought we would
Speaker 1: and there's still plenty of time to get going. The
Speaker 1: three point shooting in this game, as you alluded to,
Speaker 1: wasn't good for the team. They were four for seventeen
Speaker 1: that's just twenty four percent. They didn't need it because
Speaker 1: they were dominant inside as you figured to be against
Speaker 1: these by games. But the shooting isn't what we thought
Speaker 1: it'd be. Thus far through set games, Kansas is shooting
Speaker 1: under thirty five percent as a team that is outside
Speaker 1: the top one fifty nationally, basically right in the middle,
Speaker 1: slightly above average three point shooting team. But Kansas is
Speaker 1: one of three sixty five according to a lot of
Speaker 1: according to the eight people, so you'd expect it to
Speaker 1: be higher. Are you. Are you more worried about Zeke
Speaker 1: Mayo than you are about the whole team or is
Speaker 1: it the other way around.
Speaker 2: That's actually a great question. I think it's not to
Speaker 2: be a politician here. It's a little bit of both,
Speaker 2: it is, I think it, Yeah, I mean it's both, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, Zeke Mayo's shooting struggles can contribute to the
Speaker 2: overall teams shooting struggles. But you know, for this team
Speaker 2: on paper, we've talked about this, they have so many
Speaker 2: viable options for three point shooting. You have to think
Speaker 2: at some point it will start to fall. But you
Speaker 2: look at a guy like Rylan Griffin, you have aj
Speaker 2: store Dwan Harris, even Hunter Dickinson can step out and
Speaker 2: hit a three. I think at some point it has
Speaker 2: to turn around. That being said, it also could be
Speaker 2: one of those cases of the nil the transfer portal
Speaker 2: didn't pan out the way we thought it would. I
Speaker 2: really hope that's not the case.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you just look at the numbers. Dwan
Speaker 1: Harris is a thirty eight percent three point shooter for
Speaker 1: his career. He's three for thirteen this year. That's fifteen
Speaker 1: percentage points worse. We expect that to go up. Ryland
Speaker 1: Griffin is shooting just thirty four percent on threes, and
Speaker 1: he has a higher volume this year. But this is
Speaker 1: a guy who for his career at Alabama is better
Speaker 1: than that. He was thirty nine percent last year on
Speaker 1: a much higher volume. We expect Ryland Griffin to be okay.
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo has been a very good three point shooter
Speaker 1: for his entire career. I think it'll get better. I'm
Speaker 1: beginning to think it may not be as elite as
Speaker 1: I thought it would be. I don't think this team's
Speaker 1: gonna flirt with forty, but I think they can definitely
Speaker 1: get to thirty six or thirty seven and that would
Speaker 1: be good. Like I mean, go back to that twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen team that was just considered to be a juggernaut.
Speaker 1: That team was barely forty percent, Like that is an elite,
Speaker 1: elite three point shooting team. The team before that, the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen to seventeen team, was also there, and that
Speaker 1: was jo Him Mary because you had Frank Mason make
Speaker 1: almost fifty percent of his shots. The National Championship, the
Speaker 1: National Championship team, which we don't remember for being a
Speaker 1: great three point shooting team, but they made enough. We
Speaker 1: don't remember that team for not being able to make threes.
Speaker 1: That team was thirty five point five percent as a team.
Speaker 1: Big difference between that and the thirty four percent that
Speaker 1: Kansas is right now. If they can get to the
Speaker 1: thirty six or even close to thirty seven, I think
Speaker 1: that's going to be plenty enough. With what this team
Speaker 1: brings inside, I'm not that concerned, but I said I'd
Speaker 1: give it till Christmas. They have a few tune up
Speaker 1: games Brown North Carolina State's not very good. Missouri is
Speaker 1: not very good on paper. Like, if they're still hovering
Speaker 1: around this mark when we enter Big Twelve play, then
Speaker 1: I think you might start to get a little more
Speaker 1: nervous until then, keep firing the thing, keep firing the things.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you gotta let it fly, even if they're
Speaker 2: not falling. In conference played just let it fly.
Speaker 1: Two guys that have been above average three point shooters
Speaker 1: this year better than we expected, Aj Store and Davidkoy.
Speaker 1: You want to wrap up the guards and two of
Speaker 1: those guys are are are those two?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Aj Storre was quiet. He had four points in
Speaker 2: twenty three minutes on one for four shooting. Also Ryland Griffin,
Speaker 2: he did not make a three. He went five for
Speaker 2: five from two, finishing with ten points four rebounds of
Speaker 2: sixteen minutes. And David kuoit with the hairline of a
Speaker 2: fifty five year old insurance broker, added nine points and
Speaker 2: five boards in twenty two minutes, playing more than either
Speaker 2: Store or Griffin, which I will add I believe had
Speaker 2: to do more with the matchup than anything else. It
Speaker 2: feels like as long as Ku is getting quality minutes
Speaker 2: from two of these three, they'll be just fine. Considering Dwan, Mayo,
Speaker 2: Adams and Dickinson should all be providing production. I do
Speaker 2: really like watching David quite play basketball. I will say
Speaker 2: that Quoit is an awesome off the bench guy here
Speaker 2: because you don't you don't have to use him unless
Speaker 2: it's working, because you have enough pieces. So he's the
Speaker 2: sort of guy that you can go out there and
Speaker 2: if he's got it, then look what happened in this game.
Speaker 1: He plays twenty two minutes. He played really well, but
Speaker 1: whenever it's not going, you've had enough other bodies that
Speaker 1: you really don't need his services. I think that this
Speaker 1: is the perfect guy that a team like Kansas should
Speaker 1: look for. And they got him late. They got him
Speaker 1: in the summer, like these are not the sort of
Speaker 1: a late edition, and it was a huge beast then
Speaker 1: considering it probably cost them le Baron Fallon. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think overall you have to be pretty happy as long.
Speaker 1: And I wrote that that blurb for you to read
Speaker 1: it as a matter of fact, I know that it's
Speaker 1: It may be a little weird sometimes reading statements that
Speaker 1: I make sound like our objective or that I make
Speaker 1: sound like subjective whenever I put it in writing. But yes,
Speaker 1: my two cents is the one Mayo. Despite his inconsistencyly
Speaker 1: on kJ and Hunter, you kind of know that they're
Speaker 1: always going to be okay for you, you just need
Speaker 1: two of those other three guys to give you quality
Speaker 1: minutes twenty quality minutes not be a liability, and that
Speaker 1: gives you six guys that you can count on, plus Flory,
Speaker 1: who's proven to be just fine. If they get that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be fine almost every night out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. It's nice to actually have depth
Speaker 2: on this team. Huge shout out to our buddy the
Speaker 2: unibomber Wilder Evers hit a three in walk on time.
Speaker 2: Walk Ons now have eight points this year. We are
Speaker 2: currently running out of by games. I don't know how the.
Speaker 1: Now almost half way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that's a lot to ask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem is is you think, wow, we're
Speaker 1: almost halfway there and we're not even into December games yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you need to be like eighty percent of the
Speaker 1: way there before Big twelve play if not. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but Brown's a big one, man. I know that it's
Speaker 1: not going to be a big one for a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons. But it's a big one for that bet.
Speaker 2: Oh for the prop bet, it's huge. It might be
Speaker 2: the deciding factor in the prop bet for all zero
Speaker 2: people that wagered on it. In sportsbooks, I just realized,
Speaker 2: for as much as I reference a Unibomber, I currently
Speaker 2: am the UNI bomber because I don't have internet or
Speaker 2: TV right And.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you're you're living with nothing and
Speaker 1: writing manifestos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: And as you you pointed out, the unibomber lived in caves,
Speaker 1: and you're not in a cave, but you do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know possessions.
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of cave like you. I came home
Speaker 2: from dinner tonight and I was out getting grown whatever,
Speaker 2: and I came in and I opened the door and
Speaker 2: it was so dark that it took me a good
Speaker 2: twenty seconds to find the light switch. Yeah, I just
Speaker 2: gave up.
Speaker 1: And when without you know, I'm so, I'm so twenty
Speaker 1: first century, you know, boomer. And then I walk in
Speaker 1: my house and tell the Alexa to turn on the
Speaker 1: lights without that, I'm I. I have to think about
Speaker 1: where in my house the light switches are because I
Speaker 1: never touched them. I just tell them when the power
Speaker 1: goes out. And that's whenever we're like, oh crap, we
Speaker 1: gotta go find the light switches. Are they on that
Speaker 1: wall or that?
Speaker 2: That's so crazy to me and I guess.
Speaker 1: When the power goes out that that then the lights
Speaker 1: wouldn't try how about when the Wi Fi goes out,
Speaker 1: I'll try that one, because the Wi Fi lights switches
Speaker 1: wouldn't do much good if the light went out.
Speaker 2: Not having Wi Fi is it makes me appreciate when
Speaker 2: I have it. Not having Wi Fi is terrible?
Speaker 1: Is that? That is like whenever you have a sore
Speaker 1: throat and you think I took for granted all those
Speaker 1: times I didn't have a sore throat. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like it's it's like that with Wi Fi. And you
Speaker 1: notice now with with the all the devices we have,
Speaker 1: how many things you need Wi Fi for. Like I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: the the internet's not working. I'm just gonna get on
Speaker 1: the PlayStation and play Mad Night.
Speaker 2: That's exactly, Yep.
Speaker 1: I can't do that.
Speaker 2: That's I have an Xbox and it's sitting at the
Speaker 2: base of the TV and it's just been you know,
Speaker 2: the screen's been blank for the last three days. Sad,
Speaker 2: sad loss. But we'll get through it.
Speaker 1: Literally, Hello Darkness, my old friend. Oh yeah, good game
Speaker 1: for KU, really good game for Kansas sixty one. Overall,
Speaker 1: this is the second game that we've seen this wild
Speaker 1: gap between their two and three point productions, seventy four
Speaker 1: percent on twos and twenty four percent on threes, just
Speaker 1: four four for six shooting free throws. They really there
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of contact. The officials state, out of
Speaker 1: the way, glad we used our once every ten games.
Speaker 1: The officials were fine moment on Furman, not like we're
Speaker 1: gonna want to cash that in a better opportunity.
Speaker 2: Just wait until ams.
Speaker 1: They were Yeah, exactly, they were plus sixteen on the glass.
Speaker 1: They only turned the ball over seven times overall. This
Speaker 1: was like a couple more threes going down away from
Speaker 1: being a completely complete team effort for Kansas. Really nothing
Speaker 1: to complain about. One more random question for you. They
Speaker 1: are showing videos in Buffalo of how the Bills owner
Speaker 1: is worth six billion dollars. That is a six with
Speaker 1: what nine zeros? Yeah, it's a lot of zeros. They
Speaker 1: paid fans seventeen fifty an hour to shovel snow out
Speaker 1: of the concourse because they needed the sub shovel before
Speaker 1: the game today. How much would you have to be
Speaker 1: paid per hour to go shovel snow? And we're talking
Speaker 1: like we're not talking three inches of snow. We're talking
Speaker 1: like four feet of lake snow that's been dumped into
Speaker 1: that stadium. How much money would you have to be
Speaker 1: paid per hour tomorrow to get out and go shovel
Speaker 1: for a few hours.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think it's somewhere around twenty five an hour.
Speaker 2: I would consider it at twenty five an hour, because
Speaker 2: if you do it for yeah, I don't even know
Speaker 2: if that's even worth it.
Speaker 1: Though it's gotta be sitting there like thirty after taxes.
Speaker 1: I don't doing it for anything else.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know, man, because I was just
Speaker 2: sitting there thinking. I once had a shovel mud off
Speaker 2: of golf greens after a catastrophic flood in Midland, and
Speaker 2: I did that for maybe six hours a day, and
Speaker 2: that was the worst week of my life. So I
Speaker 2: don't think it was horrible. I mean it's terrible. It
Speaker 2: smelled awful, I had to wear I looked like an
Speaker 2: absolute moron. I was wearing oversized boots that weren't even mine,
Speaker 2: carrying a shovel over my shoulders, singing sweet Sweet Alabama,
Speaker 2: What a sweet Caroline, whatever it's called, take me home
Speaker 2: country roads, carrying.
Speaker 1: One of those songs is way better than the other
Speaker 1: and it's not sweet Caroline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were, you know, singing songs slaving away.
Speaker 2: But no, I think it's gotta be probably somewhere around
Speaker 2: thirty five bucks an hour. I would do it for that,
Speaker 2: but i'd probably watch an hour.
Speaker 1: So they have a couple of their fans on Twitter
Speaker 1: were like, you know what, it's not about how much
Speaker 1: we're getting paid. It's about the experience. But these are
Speaker 1: the same dummies that jump like like up in the
Speaker 1: tables and we're surprised that they have brain problems.
Speaker 2: What's what's the experience? You're gonna have grandkids someday and
Speaker 2: be like back in my day, I shoveled snow in
Speaker 2: that feet No one exactly.
Speaker 1: And they're tearing it down anyway. They're building a new
Speaker 1: one right now.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: The council, or the Buffalo City Council said, hey, we
Speaker 1: need taxpayer money to build this thing, but we're willing
Speaker 1: to take your suggestions into account. And the fans all
Speaker 1: collectively said, in like one of those surveys where you
Speaker 1: mark what features you want a new stadium, it was
Speaker 1: a huge percentage said, we just like a roof, we
Speaker 1: just want a roof in the city's like okay, we'll
Speaker 1: give you a roof and and and if you pay
Speaker 1: for most of it. And they're like okay. So they
Speaker 1: passed the ordinance and the tax money goes to the
Speaker 1: owners and they start building the stadium and then they
Speaker 1: come out and say, so, actually, we can't find a
Speaker 1: roof that would support all the snow we get, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna just build it without one. And it's already
Speaker 1: being constructed.
Speaker 2: This point, So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: And they're building it like right next door to the
Speaker 1: to the current one. It's like it's like in the
Speaker 1: shadow in it. So yeah, great, I'm sure that'll go awesome.
Speaker 2: Cool, well done, Buffalo.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about all these other games, because
Speaker 1: there are plenty to talk about, and Landon's missing out
Speaker 1: Big Twelve games and it was, uh, well, I think
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve is good. They're not the best conference
Speaker 1: in college basketball this year because the SEC is just
Speaker 1: motor boating everybody means it does mean more and uh
Speaker 1: and the even even Porter Mosier has dropped his choker
Speaker 1: label whenever he got over there. It's proof of that
Speaker 1: power that that conference is full of Harry Potter magic powers.
Speaker 1: But the Big Twelve, we we still think it's really good.
Speaker 1: It's been kind of disappointing at this point though. There's
Speaker 1: only two Big Twelve teams that made it to December undefeated,
Speaker 1: and that would be your Kansas Jayhawks. Good job, Bill,
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of a wrap for that one.
Speaker 1: And the Cincinnati Bengal just kidding, they're awful. The Cincinnati
Speaker 1: bear Cats, and they're yeah, well not according to their fans.
Speaker 1: Their fans think that they are just a couple of
Speaker 1: tweaks away from getting right back into the thick of
Speaker 1: the playoff race. The Cincinnati bear Cats are the other
Speaker 1: undefeated team. Everybody else in the Big twelve has at
Speaker 1: least one loss.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Porter Moser, I definitely might have lost a
Speaker 2: couple of bucks on him betting against him because I
Speaker 2: just assumed he would choke.
Speaker 1: It's a safe bet. Keep doing it, you're not doing
Speaker 1: it every time, you're doing it to win the bulk
Speaker 1: of the time.
Speaker 2: He he will, He'll bounce back towards the mean at
Speaker 2: some point. But yeah, overall, Kansas and Cincinnati, who would
Speaker 2: have thought.
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about Number twenty four, soon to be No.
Speaker 1: Number twenty four Arizona's disastrous start when we get to
Speaker 1: the Atlantis Tournament later. But let's start with TCU. It
Speaker 1: was a terrible week for the horn Frogs. Ernest Udae
Speaker 1: has posted some nice numbers this year, but yeah, the
Speaker 1: team's kind of bad. TCU finished fourth in something called
Speaker 1: the Akrosher Invitational, which is okay in some tournaments until
Speaker 1: you learn the Akrosser Invitational has four teams. They lost
Speaker 1: to Santa Clara and also Colorado State in overtime. They
Speaker 1: are four and three. The horn Frogs are and their
Speaker 1: best win is probably Florida Gulf Coast.
Speaker 2: Not great, not great. This could be the last year
Speaker 2: for Jamie Dixon, just throwing that out there.
Speaker 1: I go back and forth on that, Like, on one hand, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the like yet ten years of sample size and
Speaker 1: they're just not very interesting ever, but also as TCU
Speaker 1: getting anyone.
Speaker 2: Better, no, absolutely not. You're on that. And he's also
Speaker 2: he's like a we'll call him a serviceable college coach.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like when Nebraska had Bo Polini
Speaker 2: in football.
Speaker 1: Yeah great callup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it was like nine and three each year,
Speaker 2: eight and four, occasional seven and five, and I think
Speaker 2: they had one year. Did they have one year they
Speaker 2: went like ten and two?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had the one year where things were going
Speaker 1: really great and then and then that was that was
Speaker 1: the one year TCU finished fourth in the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: And everybody's like, Okay, this is the new normal. Now
Speaker 1: we got the coach and it's gonna be great every year.
Speaker 2: Nope, Nope. Also off to a terrible start is number
Speaker 2: six Houston Ken Palm's favorite team, who's now four and
Speaker 2: three after losing two of their three games out in
Speaker 2: Vegas in the NIL Tournament. They lost to number nine Alabama,
Speaker 2: who happened to be in the right place at the
Speaker 2: right time this time, and then overtime thriller who beat
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and then lost and overtime again to the
Speaker 2: San Diego State as Techs. The Cougar is sure fire
Speaker 2: defense has now proven incapable of getting stops down the
Speaker 2: stretch three times this year against Auburn, Alabama and the
Speaker 2: as Techs. Should people be concerned? And then also, why
Speaker 2: is San Diego State good at basketball? Year after year? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2: It's so bizarre.
Speaker 1: They're always they're always a quality basketball team. That was
Speaker 1: one of the teams that randomly won a Allen Field
Speaker 1: House and I can't remember a single player on that team.
Speaker 1: And as you always say, I am a borderline on
Speaker 1: the spectrum with how I remember.
Speaker 2: All this, Dude, I gotta I just had. I just
Speaker 2: remembered something that I learned the other day of this
Speaker 2: is a really off topic thing about the as Techs,
Speaker 2: not the San Diego State as Techs, the actual as
Speaker 2: tex In the last battle, yes, yes, the last battle
Speaker 2: of the Aztec Empire, before they were firebombed by the conquistadors,
Speaker 2: they sent out a man on hallucinogenic drugs and they
Speaker 2: called him like the mothman or the monkey Man, his
Speaker 2: prime example. They were like, we're gonna lose, but we're
Speaker 2: sending out the monkey Man or whatever he's called. And
Speaker 2: he went out there tripping on acid and just started
Speaker 2: like screaming things in the middle of a battle, and
Speaker 2: he just got massacred by the conquistadors and that was
Speaker 2: like their last hope. I find that hilarious.
Speaker 1: That is a heck of a story history with Cam.
Speaker 1: I feel like you should you should find us a
Speaker 1: random fact like.
Speaker 2: That and I have tons of them show, it's just
Speaker 2: more or less where they come out. I'm not useful
Speaker 2: for things that matter. But if you want some random
Speaker 2: fact about the Aztec Empire the downfall of the Mayans,
Speaker 2: I have you.
Speaker 1: I think we need to put that in the show
Speaker 1: right after ranked teams to lose, since the last show,
Speaker 1: we'll have the cam's random ranked.
Speaker 2: Team to lose. The Aztec Empire.
Speaker 1: And they were a powerhouse for a while, like they
Speaker 1: were the wooden UCLA teams there for a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then just well, as as you said, they sent
Speaker 1: out the one dude and.
Speaker 2: It's gonna drive me nuts because I can't remember exactly
Speaker 2: what they called him, but it was essentially they got
Speaker 2: him really high. He ran around there like he's gonna
Speaker 2: save the day, and then he just got fire bombed
Speaker 2: and they they lost.
Speaker 1: That sounds like kind of how sports works in a nutshell.
Speaker 1: As for Houston, I am kind of concerned, not necessarily
Speaker 1: for these losses. They've lost two overtime games and they
Speaker 1: lost to a really good Auburn team who some people
Speaker 1: think is the best team in college basketball. Like that,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of unluck. That's a little bit
Speaker 1: of bad luck in close games. But I am worried
Speaker 1: because we saw Houston lose the Big Twelve player of
Speaker 1: the year in Jamal Shad and they have a bunch
Speaker 1: of number twos. They really don't have that number one.
Speaker 1: L J. Cryer is in his fifth year and he's
Speaker 1: still not a guy who you can say is gonna
Speaker 1: step up and lead a team. Same with Juwan Roberts,
Speaker 1: same with a couple of other guys on that team.
Speaker 1: And then they pull was it otego away? Or they
Speaker 1: pulled the Oklahoma point guard from last year over and
Speaker 1: he's good. He's a number two like Houston's good. They're tough,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a five seed, a four seed, they're
Speaker 1: gonna win double digit Big twelve games. But do they
Speaker 1: have the true ace that can go out there? And
Speaker 1: they're kind of like a baseball team that's pretty solid,
Speaker 1: that have a bunch of number two starters, But when
Speaker 1: you need to win a game seven, can the guy
Speaker 1: go against the Clayton Kershaw's or the aces of the staff? No?
Speaker 1: I think that's Houston for you. A lot of good guys,
Speaker 1: not any and not any cold hearted killer like the
Speaker 1: dude that killed ass text Lee. Oh, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: find that exact fact.
Speaker 2: But yeah, missing jabal Shed was a really really big
Speaker 2: big loss for the for the UH The Cougars BYU
Speaker 2: had their first loss in the again of Cougars. Yeah,
Speaker 2: b Y's first loss came in the Rady Children's Invitational.
Speaker 2: Whitch before you laugh? Is the Feast week tournament the
Speaker 2: Kansas will be playing in next year. The Cougar's lost
Speaker 2: to number twenty three old Miss Chris Beard and you
Speaker 2: guessed it over time before beating future Jahawk opponent in
Speaker 2: North Carolina State in the consolation game. Side note? Did
Speaker 2: you did you know that Mark Adams is on the
Speaker 2: Old Miss coaching staff?
Speaker 1: I did not, But man, does he feel like the
Speaker 1: second p in the pod with Chris Beard? Doesn't he?
Speaker 2: Domestic violence and racism Mississippi.
Speaker 1: You knew that things were weird when Texas Tech before
Speaker 1: the portal was full on portaling. You knew it was
Speaker 1: weird whenever Texas Tech has like a three seed top
Speaker 1: ten season and everyone's like, I can't wait to get
Speaker 1: the hell out of here.
Speaker 2: Oh I just remembered it. Sorry, it was the Owl
Speaker 2: Warrior of the Aztecs.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: They called them the owl Man, and they set him
Speaker 2: on top of the rooftops and then he got fire
Speaker 2: bombed and they lost.
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the end for the Aztecs, who
Speaker 1: their end sounds a lot like the Mayans. The Mayans
Speaker 1: is pretty sad as well, all these historic dynasties. Some
Speaker 1: are saying that it's the hardest fall for a dynasty
Speaker 1: up until the twenty twenties forty nine ers who are
Speaker 1: just a dumpster fire after always being the brides maid
Speaker 1: of ever being the bride. Yeah, b yu eh whatever,
Speaker 1: Like I don't really care about BYU. Like I know
Speaker 1: they're a big twelve team for some reason, but whatever.
Speaker 2: They are BYU.
Speaker 1: Arizona won the Acrosher Classic, which is different than the
Speaker 1: Acrosher Invitational, allegedly by beating Saint Oh Mary's. I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask Lanna to do it, but he's he's there.
Speaker 1: You go. You can be our honorary Land and I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. It is a real mystery how Gonzaga wins the
Speaker 1: WCC every year when their biggest competition can't even beat Arizona,
Speaker 1: who has a losing record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Caleb Love is horrible. I don't understand where the
Speaker 2: Do you think the whole preseason All American thing just
Speaker 2: came from his final four run. Yeah, it was that.
Speaker 1: It was he played great in the Duke game. And no,
Speaker 1: he's been He's been like objectively bad, not like bad
Speaker 1: by comparison to high expectations, but like b a d
Speaker 1: bad for a while.
Speaker 2: I've seen him airball multiple shots in games. He takes
Speaker 2: shots in a lot of them aren't within the flow
Speaker 2: of the offense, but a lot of them don't even
Speaker 2: come close. I mean, most times you see good players,
Speaker 2: they miss shots and you're like, ah, you know, that
Speaker 2: looks like it was going in, kind of like a
Speaker 2: Ryland Griffin. And he just flat out he's terrible.
Speaker 1: I mean, he did average eighteen points a game last year,
Speaker 1: and he had the best shooting percentage of his career.
Speaker 1: But there's a guy who's under forty percent from the
Speaker 1: floor in his career by a healthy chunk. He's a
Speaker 1: thirty seven percent career shoot or not three point shooter
Speaker 1: shooter from the floor, He's a thirty two percent three
Speaker 1: point shooter, which is bad good free throw shooter. He's
Speaker 1: a guy who in his career has almost as many
Speaker 1: turnovers as assists U that's not great. And yeah, he's
Speaker 1: not with the exception of well, coach Kibu say otherwise,
Speaker 1: with the exception of those games. Really hasn't been a
Speaker 1: clutch performer either.
Speaker 2: No, not really and uh kind of feel like if.
Speaker 1: He was in kind of feel like if he was
Speaker 1: in Houston, it'd be different because he's got a bunch
Speaker 1: of studs around him and then he could be the
Speaker 1: alpha guy that they need. Like instead, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of great supporting cast. And I mean Arizona is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Arizona's been a powerhouse last few years in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 1: They've had seasons where they've only had four or five
Speaker 1: losses entering the NCAA tournament and now they have four
Speaker 1: entering December.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they feel like they're going to be a five
Speaker 2: seed or six seeds something like that.
Speaker 1: They got to win a lot of big twelve games
Speaker 1: two to get to that point right now. So here's
Speaker 1: a here's a wild take. If the season ended today,
Speaker 1: Yukon wouldn't be anywhere near the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2: You're not actually that that's wild because they won back
Speaker 2: back titles, but based off of resume, that's not that crazy, like,
Speaker 2: who is Yukon's best win this year? I actually, off
Speaker 2: the top of my head don't know.
Speaker 1: Here are they are? Five wins Sacred Heart, New Hampshire, Lemoyne,
Speaker 1: East Texas, A and M and Maryland Eastern Shore. No,
Speaker 1: they would not be in the Insane Tournament.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, get there.
Speaker 1: But that's an insane list, an insane list. We wrapped
Speaker 1: the show last time right as their game against Dayton
Speaker 1: was tipping off. As we transition to other games, Yukon
Speaker 1: got last in the Maui tournament, which is I mean,
Speaker 1: I wonder you're a you're a sports scambler, guy. I
Speaker 1: wonder what the odds would have been if you could
Speaker 1: have gotten plus odds on Yukon going zero to three
Speaker 1: in Maui.
Speaker 2: Honestly, my guess would be somewhere in the realm of
Speaker 2: like plus fifteen hundred. Maybe, oh I.
Speaker 1: Would be It'd have to be more than that.
Speaker 2: They were.
Speaker 1: They were a jarn close to minus that. They were
Speaker 1: like a minus seven hundred money line in their first
Speaker 1: two games, and against Dayton they were a ten point favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just the whole Yukon stick drives. We have
Speaker 2: a wall. Dan Hurley's a clown. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Dan Hurley's takeaway after getting blown out by eighteen to
Speaker 1: Dayton in the last place MAWI game, which, if we're
Speaker 1: being honest, I thought that was a pretty easy bet
Speaker 1: to see coming. You think Yukon really gave two f's
Speaker 1: about the seventh place game, that was that felt like
Speaker 1: a really weird line for them to be a double
Speaker 1: digit favorite. And Dan Hurley's takeaway from that was, I'm
Speaker 1: never doing another three game Feast Week tournament again. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna try to get a lose a naughty
Speaker 1: word here, but loser works to Yeah, just what's He's
Speaker 1: the perfect villain for this sport.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't even know, honestly, you tweeted this
Speaker 2: early on Rockshock blog. I don't know how much of
Speaker 2: that is him playing the villain role. I think he
Speaker 2: might just be a really annoying human being.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that more and more. He definitely has. His
Speaker 1: ego has gotten inflated the more winning he's done, and
Speaker 1: he is what you call insufferable at this point.
Speaker 2: YEP, completely agree. Winning the Battle for Atlantis was Porter
Speaker 2: Moser's Oklahoma Sooners, which will be his main argument when
Speaker 2: his team is on the bubble, and he's on ESPN
Speaker 2: Bractology explaining why they deserve to make it. Y Oklahoma
Speaker 2: beat Providence, number twenty four Arizona and then out of
Speaker 2: nowhere Louisville and out of nowhere Louisville team to win
Speaker 2: the event. Louisville looked very good during that tournament, by
Speaker 2: the way they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Louisville has started to rebound a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: amazing with getting Kenny Payne out of your program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yea, and Kenny Baines on staff.
Speaker 1: By the way, at Arkansas, that is true with Crazy
Speaker 1: Gas and that's not going great either.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: John Calipari's number nineteen Arkansas team got ninety hung on
Speaker 1: them by Illinois and Kansas City and they why was
Speaker 1: this game in Kansas City sort of matchup? They lost
Speaker 1: ninety to seventy seven. Is he kind of washed?
Speaker 2: I think I think he is. I said, like three
Speaker 2: weeks ago, I was like, you know what, he's gonna
Speaker 2: win a title within the next five years. I hope
Speaker 2: he wins five NCAA tournament games in the next five years.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like he's It's the same thing as Kentucky.
Speaker 2: They don't have great offensive sets, they can't play against
Speaker 2: the own defense, and it looks like a bunch of
Speaker 2: guys that are trying to play an NBA style of
Speaker 2: basketball kind of dribble drive, high ball, screen and then
Speaker 2: create their own shot and it just doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, starting to get real less miles of Kansas vibes
Speaker 1: out of this, Like, uh, I don't know, sexual assault, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully with the SEC is a wagon too like that,
Speaker 1: there's you're gonna become roadkill pretty quickly if you can't
Speaker 1: hang there. And Bud Walton Arena is pretty good. They're
Speaker 1: gonna get some teams at home.
Speaker 2: But like, right now, okay, right now, how many losses
Speaker 2: does Arkansas have at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's I think it's double double digits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying eleven is. I think they're gonna start slow.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have moments where it's really, really,
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think I think they're gonna struggle. Here's an ask RCB
Speaker 1: before we finish the rest of these other games, Cam,
Speaker 1: what do Chicago State, Arkansas Pine Bluff, and Mississippi Valley
Speaker 1: State have in common?
Speaker 2: Actually I know the answer to this, not because I
Speaker 2: looked at this earlier, just because I remember I remember
Speaker 2: reading something I think you sent in the group chat.
Speaker 2: They played Kansas State, I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they've all been scheduled by Jerome Tang in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Yeah, you are better and and Case
Speaker 1: State hung one hundred and twenty on Arkansas Pine Bluff
Speaker 1: today and they I think that they I think they
Speaker 1: made twenty one threes or something. You that game does
Speaker 1: nothing for you as a team. Nothing.
Speaker 2: I don't think it helps you that much in the
Speaker 2: net either, because that seems awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's whenever Bill self used to stay playing
Speaker 1: Missouri is a lose lose because we beat them and
Speaker 1: it doesn't do anything for us, or we lose to
Speaker 1: them and it kills our numbers. That cinniment is actually
Speaker 1: true about playing Arkansas Pine Bluff. You can beat them
Speaker 1: by forty and it's still like eh according to the computers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's I don't even have I don't even
Speaker 1: know what to say to that atrocious Circling back to
Speaker 1: the Battle for Atlantis that Oklahoma won, and as you said,
Speaker 1: Providence number twenty four Arizona and Louisville. They won the event.
Speaker 1: Louisville finished second. West Virginia beat Arizona in overtime in
Speaker 1: a game between New Big twelve and Old Big twelve. Actually, no,
Speaker 1: that's like, that's like West Virginia can't be Old Big
Speaker 1: twelve because that means I'm old. If I remember the
Speaker 1: games before West Virginia two conference ponds, we had a
Speaker 1: couple of those Big twelve games. Iowa State played Colorado
Speaker 1: and Maui. West Virginia played Arizona Atlantis. Because all these
Speaker 1: fields were set before all the conference re alignment happened.
Speaker 1: The Mountaineers are a little better than we thought. They're
Speaker 1: in third place. Arizona gets fourth. The Wildcats finished the
Speaker 1: month of November three and four, including oh to four
Speaker 1: against Power league teams. Number three against Zaga predictably steamrolled
Speaker 1: helpless Mike Woodson's number fourteen Indiana team and Day and
Speaker 1: Davidson to get fifth. That puts Davidson in sixth. The
Speaker 1: Hoosier salvage the last place game versus Providence to finish seventh.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Mike Woodson on erwhelming again. That can't be
Speaker 1: the case.
Speaker 2: He is absolutely Mike Woodson is absolutely Kenny Payne with
Speaker 2: a slightly better basketball IQ.
Speaker 1: Little bigger build, a little bit more like mister potato
Speaker 1: Head and every and every bent as. Oh, Steve Harvey's
Speaker 1: a great comp We asked to name a good basketball
Speaker 1: coach Mike Woodson, Survey says, no, he's not on the list,
Speaker 1: but he's probably a nicer He's probably a nicer guy
Speaker 1: than Bobby Knight was.
Speaker 2: I would hope. So Bobby Knight was a horrible human being.
Speaker 1: Tell me about tell me about the ESPN Events Invitational.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ESPN Events Invitational, which definitely was not created
Speaker 2: by DEI Department Number eighteen. Florida obliterated the now fourteen
Speaker 2: field and the ESPN Events Invitational, blowing through Wake Forest
Speaker 2: and Witchdaw State by combining forty four points to win
Speaker 2: that coveted championship. I believe if you win that you
Speaker 2: get an all day passed to the Disney theme parks.
Speaker 2: And you can see that's for an overpriced cheeseburger four
Speaker 2: thousand dollars value if it's one day of tickets. There
Speaker 2: absolutely also, since you guys are so interested in the
Speaker 2: segment and this tournament, you will be very interested to
Speaker 2: know that the who won the aforementioned Rady's Children invitation.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll finally end the suspenser. It was number third
Speaker 2: seen definitely hasn't lost to a sixteen seed team before
Speaker 2: Perdue who punched Chris Beard's wife Ole Miss team by
Speaker 2: two points to win the title.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that man punched his wife got fired only
Speaker 1: because they had it on video, and then got hired
Speaker 1: again like a handful of weeks. Well, Ryan, you know
Speaker 1: down south they call it a good old domestic settlement. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can't always believer can't always believe her. Well, so
Speaker 1: that was argue our best call ever on itp myself,
Speaker 1: Landon and Nick said, watch Chris Beard be hired by
Speaker 1: some school like Liberty, and guess what happened by Liberty?
Speaker 1: A few weeks later they hired Chris Beard, and now
Speaker 1: Chris Beard is at all Miss, which he fits right
Speaker 1: in there. Winning the Player's Era Nil tournament was Oregon.
Speaker 1: It feels like every other year we alternate. Oregon either
Speaker 1: comes out of the gates unexpectedly hot or they catch
Speaker 1: fire as a twelve seed and win NCAA tournament games.
Speaker 1: This is we're early in the year. They are eight
Speaker 1: to o after beating number nine Alabama, eighty three, eighty
Speaker 1: one and a thriller. I think Oregon has a top
Speaker 1: ten argument. In the next AP poll, finishing third out,
Speaker 1: there was San Diego State after upsetting Houston, number twenty.
Speaker 1: Texas A and M finishes fifth. Rutgers got sixth number
Speaker 1: twenty one. Creighton ended their horrible week by getting seventh
Speaker 1: and dumping Notre Dame into last place.
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is horrible, always have been. In the rock
Speaker 2: Shock blog, why would you schedule this game of the week?
Speaker 2: Number fifteen, Wisconsin decided to really challenge themselves by scheduling
Speaker 2: oh to nine Chicago State. They only won by nineteen
Speaker 2: points and filled the cover, meaning that by law this
Speaker 2: will be counted as a loss. I also drove, I
Speaker 2: should be. I drove by Chicago State, by the way,
Speaker 2: a few days ago, and I, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 2: it's only a couple of buildings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's small, and that doesn't make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense because Chicago State feels like so big, decent, right, Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: how is that team so not good? They're they're buns
Speaker 1: all the time. They've been a laughing stock since we
Speaker 1: started the show. Yeah, they're terrible. Yeah, you could play,
Speaker 1: probably could.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: All right, Well I've seen videos off you shooting freezos.
Speaker 1: That's a good start.
Speaker 2: You get me a wide open with nobody charging at me,
Speaker 2: I'll probably make one out of every six.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean Nick thinks we could beat a
Speaker 1: mid level high school girls team.
Speaker 2: I still just disagree with that take. Yeah, there was no.
Speaker 1: Way we would get boat raced because they are conditioned
Speaker 1: athletes that run plays and we are a bunch of.
Speaker 2: Not that I concur are odd.
Speaker 1: Get better with you on the team because you are
Speaker 1: the best basketball player of everybody, of anyone that's ever
Speaker 1: been on inside the paint. But you gotta carry the
Speaker 1: rest of us like you can be. You can be,
Speaker 1: you can be the Gerald Vic all you want, like
Speaker 1: the rest of us are Charlie Four's.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not exactly an elite at creating my own jump shot,
Speaker 1: so we would be firebombed. Ah, but if your mom
Speaker 1: doesn't yell at Bill self in the locker room because
Speaker 1: you're not playing enough, you may have a better pace.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that definitely did. That was that was the
Speaker 1: moment that it.
Speaker 2: Broke he uh. He actually played the role of Snoopy
Speaker 2: because he was in Snoopy's doghouse in the Charlie Browncris
Speaker 2: movie that year.
Speaker 1: Sure did. And let me tell you, it was an
Speaker 1: amazing time to be alive to about this point in
Speaker 1: that season when THEA. Gerald Vick was the best player
Speaker 1: in college basketball. He was amazing for a few weeks there.
Speaker 2: It was un I went to the game I think
Speaker 2: it was when Kansas played Nova. He has Kansas Villanova
Speaker 2: when I think it was like three Jayhawks accounted for
Speaker 2: like seventy of their seventy some points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Dotson Vic and Dedrick Glass and that
Speaker 1: did like all the yeah, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it might be red flag, but we'll just keep riding
Speaker 1: it out. You go back and watch those highlights and
Speaker 1: some of the shots that gerald Vick made are truly unbelievable.
Speaker 1: They are NBA type shots. Oh yeah, And I mean
Speaker 1: that that dude could play, and he just he could
Speaker 1: not keep his head on straight. He had a bunch
Speaker 1: of distractions going on at home and it just didn't work.
Speaker 1: But we saw how good Kansas was after he left.
Speaker 1: So it's a shame. It didn't ranked teams to lose
Speaker 1: since the last time we did a podcast. Number six
Speaker 1: Houston lost in overtime to the Aztecs, but not the
Speaker 1: one that, uh not the not the crazy.
Speaker 2: Oll Yeah the albul Man. Number nine Alabama lost to Oregon.
Speaker 1: Not concerned about Alabama, by the way, they have two
Speaker 1: teams the two losses, two very very very good basketball teams.
Speaker 1: They're going to be just fine. Kudos to Nate Oates
Speaker 1: for scheduling tough. Number fourteen Indiana not as convinced there
Speaker 1: as well. Coach lost to Gonzaga. Number nineteen Arkansas, continuing
Speaker 1: on the trend of terrible coaching, loss to the I
Speaker 1: think Number twenty three Old miss has a decent coach,
Speaker 1: He's just a bad man. Lost to Purdue.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Number twenty four Arizona and the fucking Caleb Loves
Speaker 2: lost to Oklahoma and West Virginia. You should be kicked
Speaker 2: out of basketball after that week.
Speaker 1: That would be old Big twelve a new Big twelve.
Speaker 1: I guess. Number twenty five Mississippi State lost to your
Speaker 1: man Tad Mada's Butler team.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh, I remember thad Mada. I also think
Speaker 2: he had a better week than his prior stop or weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: being Ohio state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Thad Mada is not as unlike Ryan Day.
Speaker 2: Who is ass he sure is?
Speaker 1: All right, let's do ask RCB. We have a few
Speaker 1: questions here. Let's take a look at all of those
Speaker 1: great questions, and we're gonna start with one from at
Speaker 1: Ryan Underscore Landrath because you know you got to start
Speaker 1: with the best. Uh, here we go, Oh, Brian Underscore
Speaker 1: Landrath wants to know two questions. Number one, this is
Speaker 1: really hilarious for you. What is your WiFi password?
Speaker 2: Hmmm, well, I'd like to say something space unibamer owl man.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good Wi Fi password. I'm a little
Speaker 1: not convinced you're telling the truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't have Wi Fi.
Speaker 1: You currently don't. All right, it's probably just gonna be
Speaker 1: a bunch of gibbers at that point. So my WiFi password.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and nineteen, whenever my girlfriend at the
Speaker 1: time now wife, and I moved in together, we had
Speaker 1: a bunch of family members. I'm just gonna rip the
Speaker 1: band aid off and get fireside with you here without
Speaker 1: saying this has nothing to do with my political opinions.
Speaker 1: We had a bunch of people in our family that
Speaker 1: despise Donald Trump, as a lot of people's families do.
Speaker 1: So I decided to make our Wi Fi password Trump
Speaker 1: twenty twenty because I wanted everybody to type that in
Speaker 1: whenever they wanted to get on the Wi Fi. How'd
Speaker 1: that go? Over? It? It went? It was hilarious. I
Speaker 1: am a troll. I am out for trouble. So I
Speaker 1: got exactly what I wanted out of it. Then you know,
Speaker 1: we rolled it back. We ran it back to Trump
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, because you gotta change it, you gotta
Speaker 1: update it. And so now I think that that's coming on.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to change it to Jadvance twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight and just see what they say.
Speaker 2: I might actually make my WiFi password something like a
Speaker 2: cryptic message like help me, and just see if like
Speaker 2: or make my WiFi network that so like the people
Speaker 2: in my apartment like see it and they're like, oh no.
Speaker 1: Make it yeah, help me? Or FBI Child Protection Services,
Speaker 1: yeah van or something not an FBI agent that you
Speaker 1: have that you have the keys are in your hands,
Speaker 1: or we'll see what that's terrified. And the second one,
Speaker 1: if you took the ugliest woman in the world, which wow,
Speaker 1: can you imagine what the ugliest woman on earth must
Speaker 1: look like?
Speaker 2: I have so many jokes I want to say, but
Speaker 2: I can't say them.
Speaker 1: There it's gotta be really bad. And but you took
Speaker 1: that woman and you gave her a tattoo sleeve, what
Speaker 1: percentile would that woman now be in from an attractive perspective?
Speaker 2: I think it's like a Morgantown, West Virginia, like five
Speaker 2: out of ten.
Speaker 1: Well no, but after the tattoo sleeves or not before?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's just a normal Morgantown woman exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think it helps at all.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like a someone that's going to
Speaker 1: be on intervention for meth like the show Wow, okay, see,
Speaker 1: I think I think it gets you from zero point
Speaker 1: zero till like fifteen. Right, it's got a vault you
Speaker 1: pass like okay, what like without turning this into a
Speaker 1: locker room talk show, I asked my wife, what what
Speaker 1: percentage of men do you consider attractive? And she said
Speaker 1: like thirty And I said, see, I think most men
Speaker 1: would say that their number for women is much higher
Speaker 1: than that, Like I would say, like, yeah, maybe higher
Speaker 1: it might be like sixty percent of women I could
Speaker 1: find something attractive about, right, it might even be higher
Speaker 1: than that.
Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, I mean most guys. Yeah, guys are dumb.
Speaker 1: We're like a fifteen percent tile in women just because
Speaker 1: they have a tattoo sleep which, yes, I'm carrying the
Speaker 1: I'm carrying Nick's lack of tattoo appreciation here on this show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fair. I don't really care, to be honest, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, It's not really a defining choice for me.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you don't think it moves the needle
Speaker 1: at all. You think if you took it. And conversely,
Speaker 1: if I told you that the ugliest woman in the
Speaker 1: world had a tattoo sleeve and got it removed, you
Speaker 1: also wouldn't raise her from that spot. You just think
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: No, I don't really care.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I think it vaults you passed. However,
Speaker 1: many women have very ugly like face tattoos, right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's that's a different category. So it moves you
Speaker 1: up a little bit if you like, you have to
Speaker 1: get maybe a little bit. Who were passing in this scenario.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Why it's it's it's interesting, it's completely worthless,
Speaker 1: which is the questions I'm best at.
Speaker 2: It's like putting gold rims on a two thousand and
Speaker 2: four Honda Cord.
Speaker 1: Hey, don't hate on those nights. At least you didn't
Speaker 1: say nineteen ninety seven Honda Cord. Yeah. Still drive those back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and will until the engine with a third of a
Speaker 1: million miles on it falls out of the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: Let's say, let it rip.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm glad that I If you had
Speaker 1: a Honda Cord from the nineties, considering where you're currently living,
Speaker 1: the catalytic converter would be swiped out within your first
Speaker 1: three days of sleeping in your new house.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, I uh yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: I hope you have a very good parking garage, sir,
Speaker 1: h don't have one, well, then in that case, may
Speaker 1: the odds be in your favor. Let's go on to
Speaker 1: a very normal question after a very not normal question
Speaker 1: at Bentley Hunt fifteen. Just simply asks who is your
Speaker 1: favorite Kansas basketball player of all time time.
Speaker 2: I'll let you answer that first.
Speaker 1: Actually, my answer is Frank Mason. I am I am
Speaker 1: so from my age, I'm twenty nine. I really started
Speaker 1: watching Kansas basketball the last year the Roy Williams era
Speaker 1: when I was seven years old, when that team lost
Speaker 1: to Syracuse in the finals. So like that, the Kirk Heinrich,
Speaker 1: Wayne Simeon, Nick Collison era is right at the beginning
Speaker 1: of my fandom. The first Jayhawk I remember following from
Speaker 1: the beginning to the end of his career was that
Speaker 1: Russell Robinson's senior class. Mario Chalmers was a junior, Darrell
Speaker 1: Arthur was a sophomore. Kind of that area. Loved Searon Collins,
Speaker 1: loved Andrew Wiggins, loved Frank Mason. I think it's got
Speaker 1: and Devonte Graham's in there. Those aren't Those aren't super
Speaker 1: interesting answers. I'll say Hunter Dickinson just because it tipped
Speaker 1: off people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my answer was actually Frank Bason. I
Speaker 2: will say Devonte Graham too. I just think he's fun
Speaker 2: to watch. Great those two.
Speaker 1: The fact that those two played together just makes it
Speaker 1: even better. And yes, great dude loved Kansas. Both those
Speaker 1: guys were under dog stories. I think that just makes
Speaker 1: it even better. At Alex Fisher ku is the Ohio State. Oh,
Speaker 1: good question for you, Cam here is Ohio State. The
Speaker 1: football comparison to Duke basketball, that's pretty good. That's really good.
Speaker 1: Actually talk about that. We talked about how Ryan Dave's
Speaker 1: John Shire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, the comparison's pretty good because you
Speaker 2: have a team that's very talented. They haven't won a
Speaker 2: title since wasn't it was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: I think it was the Zeke Elliott team that was
Speaker 1: the fourth of four playoff teams that set AJ mccaron
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, yeah they beat Oregon and right they
Speaker 1: beat Oregon in the finals. I think, yeah, I was,
Speaker 1: I was talking Duke to I think it was twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen when they beat Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: Does that sound right?
Speaker 1: And they they got lucky to say the least that
Speaker 1: they didn't have to deal with Kentucky in the finals.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that's a great comparison. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of anyone else that has tons of tank.
Speaker 2: I guess you could say Bill Sooff before uh maybe
Speaker 2: before the second title. I don't know, like that's kind
Speaker 2: of maybe a good comparison.
Speaker 1: Actually, actually I think that's pretty good. Yeah, now that
Speaker 1: Bill's got to I think Duke was It's fine. It's
Speaker 1: a great also asks what college football team would be
Speaker 1: the Kansas basketball comparison. I mean they they feel like
Speaker 1: like and Yukon is Georgia because they've come out of
Speaker 1: nowhere to win back to back titles. I think that
Speaker 1: Kentucky feels a little bit more like Alabama team that
Speaker 1: was great. Now they've really started to fade a little bit.
Speaker 1: And Kansas, I mean, Kansas won more games than anybody, like.
Speaker 1: I'm not counting Gonzaga, by the way, I don't count
Speaker 1: those teams they beat Kansas of the Power League teams.
Speaker 1: So I guess the answer there is I.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say Michigan, but Michigan only won one
Speaker 2: title and it was also tainted a legendly.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Ohio State might be the closest.
Speaker 2: I think it is. Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like plenty of success, They're always in the top five,
Speaker 1: and more often than not, they have stunning season ending,
Speaker 1: deflating losses. Complete Yep, that sadly, that is correct. I
Speaker 1: think that that guy shank in the fifty yard game
Speaker 1: winning field goal, the worst kick in the history of
Speaker 1: game winning kicks a couple of years ago. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that feels like something Kansas basketball would do in the
Speaker 1: Ely eight.
Speaker 2: And then they win. They win a title that year
Speaker 2: as well if they if that field goal goes in,
Speaker 2: because that was against TCU the next game, and Ohio
Speaker 2: State was not losing a TCU.
Speaker 1: No, and Georgia most certainly did not lose the TCU.
Speaker 1: They only beat him my sixty at. Dick Underscore Taser says,
Speaker 1: do you guys believe that shoe size matters when the
Speaker 1: foot face flagrant happened? Missus Taser says, man, Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 1: has a massive shoe size that has to be bigger
Speaker 1: than yours. And I responded with a weird look anyway,
Speaker 1: you fella willing to disclose your hem shoe sizes for
Speaker 1: the man? Well, you can always count on Dick Underscore
Speaker 1: Taser to talk about well that yes, Hunter Dickinson also
Speaker 1: doesn't leave any doubt he tells us how well and
Speaker 1: doubt he does freeze.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I think, uh the Wayne Kerr is the
Speaker 2: definition of a good burner account because we'll never know
Speaker 2: what he looks like. We don't need to know. We
Speaker 2: just know he's known as uh Dick Underscore Taser.
Speaker 1: And if we had rafters in the it CP studios,
Speaker 1: and we hoisted the names of the best question askers.
Speaker 1: Dick Tayser would be definitely up there. They also, you
Speaker 1: listen to the show, so you remember none of us
Speaker 1: put two and two together on his name being Dick
Speaker 1: or Wayne Kerr for a while.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if his name had been Wayne underscore Cerr,
Speaker 1: I would have. But I read his Dick Taser name
Speaker 1: more than his just Twitter actual name, which is Wayne cur.
Speaker 1: I So shoe size wise, I like whenever, Like if
Speaker 1: we're just talking shoes, I like shoes that fit loose,
Speaker 1: So I always go up to like an eleven or
Speaker 1: a twelve. I like it, like like, I like there
Speaker 1: being more room. I'm probably a size ten. I'm also
Speaker 1: five eight, so I feel like that's pretty proportionate to
Speaker 1: my height to be about a size ten and shoe size.
Speaker 1: But I don't have huge feet. I also don't have
Speaker 1: teeny feet.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I have clown feet.
Speaker 1: So I'm like five foot ten and I have size
Speaker 1: eleven and a half.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's technically eleven. But shoe sizes are
Speaker 2: so weird because Nike runs small, right, I don't know
Speaker 2: it's ten and a half to eleven and a half
Speaker 2: somewhere in that range.
Speaker 1: But we do know that Hunter Dickinson has enormous size
Speaker 1: feet and Wayne Kerr says that he's a size thirteen.
Speaker 1: So just good for you. Actually, kudos to Wayne Kerr
Speaker 1: for having having big feet, but not as big as Hunters.
Speaker 1: He is the North Carolina logo at Elliott ruson age one,
Speaker 1: hoping I'm not too late. No, sir, you're a good
Speaker 1: question here. Of any successful freshman centers of the last
Speaker 1: ten years in college basketball? Is there a name that
Speaker 1: Flori but Doomgat reminds you most.
Speaker 2: Closely of, oh, of anyone in college basketball? Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: Ryan's gonna have a better answer on this than me.
Speaker 1: And I thought, I've thought about this for a while,
Speaker 1: and I just genuinely answer, he's a athletic, he's a
Speaker 1: stat box.
Speaker 2: Score so DeAndre Ayton, I don't know. That's That's the
Speaker 2: only one I can think of, and it's not a
Speaker 2: good comparison.
Speaker 1: The first name I thought of was Bam out of
Speaker 1: Bio who he was a better defensive player than Flora is.
Speaker 1: But I think Flori can do a little bit more
Speaker 1: at this point in his career than Bam could, and
Speaker 1: obviously out of Bio's turned into a very very good
Speaker 1: center in the NBA. He can do a lot of
Speaker 1: things outside the lane, uh, just as much as he
Speaker 1: does at the basket. So I think that's probably the
Speaker 1: name I'd go with. They play similar styles. If he
Speaker 1: turns into DeAndre eight and then Kansas is in very
Speaker 1: until they play Buffalo. That's a nick White.
Speaker 2: That one, honestly the only name I could think of.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Arizona being underwhelming, the DeAndre eighton team didn't
Speaker 1: win a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Sean Miller sweated through five shirts?
Speaker 1: Correct yep? At show me Hawk. Why isn't the Border
Speaker 1: War in football a Week fourteen game? Why is it
Speaker 1: instead on September September Week two game? Missoo, Arkansas isn't
Speaker 1: flashed enough to be a matchup on rivalry week. I agree,
Speaker 1: but you're never gonna see Week fourteen be a game
Speaker 1: between two teams that aren't in the same conference. It
Speaker 1: took Texas and Texas A and M becoming rivals again
Speaker 1: in the same league to get that game into Week fourteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would love it.
Speaker 1: It would be an awesome, awesome game, And you're right,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna feel quite the same at Arrowhead. I
Speaker 1: guess it's not an Arrowhead. It's not gonna feel the
Speaker 1: same on the second week of the second Saturday of
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 2: No, it will still be fun, but now it won't
Speaker 2: be it won't be that special.
Speaker 1: Another one from show Me Hawk says this k football
Speaker 1: season was certainly one of a kind. They started one
Speaker 1: to five, four losses being by one score, one, four
Speaker 1: or five, including three rank wins, and then they got
Speaker 1: raked over the coals by Baylor.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That Baylor game I thought was decently easy to see coming.
Speaker 1: I didn't think they get blown out in it. But
Speaker 1: it's just so hard whenever you bring the intensity three
Speaker 1: times in a row against good teams as an underdog,
Speaker 1: it is so so so hard to keep that intensity
Speaker 1: up week after week. They just flat out let it down.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a coaching disaster against Baylor.
Speaker 1: I just thought that was a team running out of
Speaker 1: gas one week early.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I mean you could see it too,
Speaker 2: right off the jump missfield goal after a pretty good drive.
Speaker 2: It was just not meant to me.
Speaker 1: Just a really disappointing year though, because obviously this is
Speaker 1: the biggest Kansas is probably the biggest what if team
Speaker 1: in college football this year, they could have been.
Speaker 2: A playoff team.
Speaker 1: A couple of results go differently, they could have been
Speaker 1: a playoff team. That's disappointing at Kate Eden fourteen. Will
Speaker 1: Kansas be an underdog the rest of the year in
Speaker 1: every game?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Man or sorry? Will Kansas ever be an underdog? Meaning
Speaker 1: will they be favored in everything? Yeah?
Speaker 2: They will again. I think on at Houston at Houston, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say maybe, I would say it might be
Speaker 2: pick him.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, the answer is probably. I don't have a
Speaker 1: certain game to bet on, but uh, they were an
Speaker 1: underdog against Duke and Bill self as an underdog is
Speaker 1: super sexy to get basically free money most of the time.
Speaker 1: As Cam found out, I told you that you should
Speaker 1: that you should parlay that with Houston losing one. And
Speaker 1: now the next time I give you gambling tip, you're
Speaker 1: bet on when I'm like pound the chiefs Man double favor.
Speaker 1: But this time it'll be different.
Speaker 2: It won't Yeah, and they'll lose or win by one point.
Speaker 1: When the other team decides to intentionally throw an interception
Speaker 1: in the final ten seconds. Yep, at show Mehawk. If
Speaker 1: Kansas got invited to the Big Ten, but we had
Speaker 1: to take three other schools from the Big twelve, or
Speaker 1: not even from the Big twelve, just three other schools.
Speaker 1: Who would you want? As they bring North Carolina, Iowa State,
Speaker 1: and Louisville. So we're just free forming picking teams. Okay,
Speaker 1: joining the Big ten if you could take one Big ten,
Speaker 1: if you take one Big twelve team that fits in
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, it is Iowa State.
Speaker 2: I think Houston would be a good Big ten team
Speaker 2: because Big Ten games sock in Houston scores like sixty
Speaker 2: points a game typically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could, we could mix that up a little bit.
Speaker 1: I tell you what can can we take? Can I
Speaker 1: take an extra team and throw Iowa into the ocean?
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fine, No, I mean Iowa.
Speaker 1: Like replacing Houston with Iowa feels like an upgrade in
Speaker 1: every way?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Good, yeah, in every way?
Speaker 1: Not even Just one more question here, and it's a
Speaker 1: good one. At Rock Chalk eighty four, a Sonic Blockbuster?
Speaker 1: What do you order at Sonic?
Speaker 2: Nothing? I don't go to Sonic.
Speaker 1: Really, Okay, Sonics in Chicago.
Speaker 2: I feel like there are there are. I don't eat
Speaker 2: tons of fast food, and then I just we did.
Speaker 2: You don't really have those in Michigans, so I never
Speaker 2: really stopped there. I mean we have a few, but
Speaker 2: not tons Sonic. I did get grilled cheese.
Speaker 1: Though the grilled cheeses are good. Sonic has a deeper
Speaker 1: than you'd think menu. I actually think that the hamburgers
Speaker 1: at Waterburger taste a lot like Sonic. They're just they're
Speaker 1: worse at Waterburger. For my two cents, the Sonic pretzel
Speaker 1: twist is really good. Uh and addy drink like you
Speaker 1: get any slush you throw some nerds aid, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the order. It's a it's a strawberry limeaid or a
Speaker 1: strawberry lemon slush with some nerds and a pretzel twist.
Speaker 1: Burgers are pretty good. Don't like what they did with
Speaker 1: their fries. Pretty disappointing. Also, I live about a minute
Speaker 1: from a Sonic and I have not been to Sonic
Speaker 1: in weeks, if not months, fair take. But the next
Speaker 1: time I'm there, I'll yell Sonic Blockbuster into the end
Speaker 1: of the speaker and see what it gets me. I
Speaker 1: avoid that place, picking up DoorDash orders from there too,
Speaker 1: because it is always slow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean if you if you yell Sonic Blockbuster
Speaker 2: three times, fran Frascilla will appear on a encyclopedia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'll talk about how much Hunter Dickinson should
Speaker 1: have been ejected. If you ever have asked GARCBS, use
Speaker 1: the Twitter hashtag asscarcb BEE. Don't think this game will
Speaker 1: earn the Blockbuster tab, but it's not due to Kansas's fault.
Speaker 1: Number one Kansas at unranked Creighton on Wednesday, December fourth
Speaker 1: at seven thirty pm. This game is on FS one,
Speaker 1: which Fox has the ugliest college football scoreboard on Earth,
Speaker 1: so hopefully basketball one is not as bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Creighton Blue Jays have been one of college
Speaker 2: basketball's most disappointing teams this year. They're five and three overall,
Speaker 2: and they have losses against Nebraska. I don't know how
Speaker 2: you do that, San Diego State, and Texas A and M.
Speaker 2: Their best win is Notre Dame, which should not count.
Speaker 1: Injuries have been a huge factor in this five and
Speaker 1: three record, but Creighton expects to of course, have all
Speaker 1: hands on deck for the Jayhawks. They are anchored by
Speaker 1: ninth year senior Ryan Kalchbrenner, who is their seven to
Speaker 1: one center that averages eighteen and nine. His game is
Speaker 1: really similar to Hunter Dickinson's, but he's a little better
Speaker 1: shot blocker. He averages more than three blocks per game.
Speaker 1: Isaac Trout Trot Trot, Trout Trot, something like that, and
Speaker 1: Jackson mc andrew, two White Guy of the Game candidates,
Speaker 1: share four man minutes.
Speaker 2: Mick andrews, it sounds like a terrible happy meal. Look.
Speaker 2: It looks like Creton point guard Stephen Ashworth would be
Speaker 2: lost for a while with an ankle injury earlier this year,
Speaker 2: but he wound up being okay, returning last weekend, putting
Speaker 2: up sixteen points and six assists. Back on the floor,
Speaker 2: he is the team's best shooter at forty one percent.
Speaker 2: From three old Texas Tech friend and potential allegedly alleged offender,
Speaker 2: Pop Isaacs plays the two guard and adds fifteen and four.
Speaker 2: Jamia Neil is the aj store like wing who gets
Speaker 2: ten and five. All of Creton's guards are very good passers.
Speaker 1: My analysis on Creighton is they're kind of similar to Kansas,
Speaker 1: Dickinson and Kalkburner overall, pretty similar. Their four man is
Speaker 1: more your athletic not your bruising body type four man.
Speaker 1: The wings are all about the same statistically. They all
Speaker 1: shoot a lot of threes. They all are pretty good passers.
Speaker 1: Just think of Kansas if they intentionally tried to shoot
Speaker 1: more threes, and we'll talk about how that's kind of
Speaker 1: Creighton's downfall. The Blue Jays have fallen all the way
Speaker 1: down to number fifty on Ken Palm. They were a
Speaker 1: Final four sneaky pick at season's beginning, and they're really struggling.
Speaker 1: Their percentages on two pointers are elite because Kalkberner is
Speaker 1: one of the best players in the country, but they've
Speaker 1: taken way more threes than twos this year. They're only
Speaker 1: shooting thirty one percent as a team from deep, which
Speaker 1: is a dreadful shot selection. They also turn it over
Speaker 1: way too much for a team that has this level
Speaker 1: of backcourt talent. Defense has been a problem in all ways. However,
Speaker 1: the strengths they're a great passing team, they don't foul much,
Speaker 1: and they look to finally be getting healthy. I think
Speaker 1: this is a very dangerous basketball team who can undo
Speaker 1: a lot of their early season woes by getting a
Speaker 1: win on Wednesday night, so they should be fired up
Speaker 1: and ready to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kansas will definitely get their best shot. Kansas and
Speaker 2: Creyton have only played twice in the last fifty years,
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one point win at Allen Fieldhouse and
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two second round escape in Fort Worth,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Remy Martin. According to the Creighton Media Guide,
Speaker 2: the first matchup between these teams took place in nineteen
Speaker 2: twenty three, which is around the time Ryan kylch Brenner
Speaker 2: was born, and the final score was twenty nine to seven.
Speaker 2: Very Houston esque.
Speaker 1: Jeez.
Speaker 2: Kansas hasn't lost to Creighton since nineteen forty nine, and
Speaker 2: they haven't played in Omaha since nineteen fifty one.
Speaker 1: So the last time that Kansas lost to Creighton, Harry S.
Speaker 1: Sherman was the president. It's been a very long time
Speaker 1: since he was around. Wow. All right, So my analysis
Speaker 1: on this game, I think this is a really, really
Speaker 1: tough one. Landon says, Kansas wins by five. This is
Speaker 1: going to be a loud atmosphere. Omaha is pretty close
Speaker 1: to Lawrence, It's only three hour drive, so I think
Speaker 1: you'll see some Kansas fans there. But Overall, this is
Speaker 1: a get our season back on track sort of game
Speaker 1: for the Blue Jays. Haven't seen enough from them defensively
Speaker 1: to pick them to win this game, but I do
Speaker 1: believe it's going to be a battle down to the
Speaker 1: final shot. Kansas needs to make threes or they are
Speaker 1: in trouble because you expect Creighton to make some of
Speaker 1: the threes they haven't made to this point in the year.
Speaker 1: I will reluctantly go with Kansas escaping seventy eight to
Speaker 1: seventy three in a game that they need every one
Speaker 1: of the forty minutes to escape. I think Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 1: is the difference. I look for kJ Adams take a
Speaker 1: little bit of a step back and for Hunter to
Speaker 1: lead Kansas to a win. Give me twenty and thirteen
Speaker 1: for Hunter. Kansas wins by a couple of buckets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that take. I'm going to go on
Speaker 2: a similar note. I think Kansas wins a tight game
Speaker 2: seventy nine to seventy six. Really the first true road
Speaker 2: test for Kansas. I kind of expect a little bit
Speaker 2: of a slow start. Creighton will be coming at coming
Speaker 2: out at Kansas guns blazing, and every team does that,
Speaker 2: but especially for Creighton in this spot, so yeah, I
Speaker 2: expect a close game. Kansas wins by a three pointer.
Speaker 1: All right, let's pick some other games. This is a
Speaker 1: fantastic week of college basketball games. All of these rankings
Speaker 1: were recording on Sunday night, so it's all going to
Speaker 1: shift dramatically. But this is the Big ten, Big twelve.
Speaker 1: I think is that it No, it's Big ten and
Speaker 1: ACC battle or is it ACC and SEC. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's all the challenges this week or whatever. So
Speaker 1: these games are good. Number sixteen Cincinnati at Villanova Kyle
Speaker 1: Neptune squad has not been good. But how about this,
Speaker 1: I'll pick them to hand since Ana. Wow, I cannot
Speaker 1: do that myself. I think Villanova is terrible. Give me Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: fair take it's it's more of a shot in the dark.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Villanova has not been good at all. Number
Speaker 1: nineteen Arkansas at Miami John Kelli Perry squad maybe playing
Speaker 1: to avoid falling out of the top twenty five, and
Speaker 1: I say they get it done on the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami's had a really tough start of the season.
Speaker 2: Not a very good team for Jim Lernega. Give me
Speaker 2: Arkansas landon is going with the Hurricanes, though we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. That's gonna be lost.
Speaker 1: Landon also go with the upset here number eight, Kentucky
Speaker 1: at Clemson and the sec ACC Challenge. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of environment. I'll take Kentucky on the road and
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about it. Wow, Lanta might be right,
Speaker 1: but I don't think so. Gimme Kentucky number seventeen. Baylor
Speaker 1: at number two and about to fall like a rock.
Speaker 1: They may be unranked in this next poll, they should
Speaker 1: be if we're being honest. Their best win we just
Speaker 1: read it earlier. Baylor at Yukon, what do you think
Speaker 1: rematch of the last two teams that have won a
Speaker 1: national championship. I will say Yukon gets a quality dub.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't think Yukon can lose
Speaker 2: four in a row. Three is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Hey, they beat Maryland East Shore or something like that today.
Speaker 2: All they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well either way, three of the last four.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna lose four of five. Give me Yukon.
Speaker 1: Landon thinks Baylor goes into Yukon and wins. He's been
Speaker 1: the most down on Yukon of all of us. This
Speaker 1: would be a great If Yukon win loses this game,
Speaker 1: then I think it's very fair to just say they
Speaker 1: just may not be that good. I'm gonna say what
Speaker 1: happened in Mali. I don't think they're a good as
Speaker 1: number two team in the country, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: what happens in Mali, just weird stuff happens. They also
Speaker 1: lost those two games in the first two games Todays
Speaker 1: by a combined three points like those easily could have
Speaker 1: been wins. So yeah, absolutely, I'll trust them to get
Speaker 1: back on track. Virginia at number eighteen and soon to
Speaker 1: go up a lot. Florida. I think we all want
Speaker 1: the Gators.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Number nine Alabama at number twelve. North Carolina, Oh man,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness. I will say NATO's team wins on
Speaker 1: the road. I think they're a top five team.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna actually put my play the music. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put my faith in Hubert Davis. Give me Carolina.
Speaker 1: That'll make you feel good. That's a great matchup, by
Speaker 1: the way, it should be a lot of points in
Speaker 1: that game. Number ten Marquette at number five Iowa State
Speaker 1: Wednesday night is a barn burner Fest for these games.
Speaker 1: I'm glad they're all being played the same day. Great planning.
Speaker 1: We have Kansas and Creighton, Marquette, Iowa State, Alabama, UNC,
Speaker 1: and Auburn Duke all playing between six and eight on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Who schedules this awful? I will say Iowa State blows
Speaker 1: out Marquet at Hilton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I aloways Stay wins at Hilton for sure.
Speaker 1: Number four Auburn at number eleven, Duke, what a game
Speaker 1: that is? Is this the spot where Auburn takes their
Speaker 1: first loss?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I will take Auburn.
Speaker 1: See, I think Duke wins, and I think Auburn is
Speaker 1: going to I think Auburn's already peaked a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I mean this feels like the spot for Duke.
Speaker 1: If they can't win this game, then we're gonna have
Speaker 1: the same questions with Shyer about then who can they
Speaker 1: close out games against? They have to get it done.
Speaker 1: And number twenty two Xavier going on the road and
Speaker 1: playing TCU on Thursday night. Sneaky little trap game here.
Speaker 1: I'll go with the horn Frogs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll put my faith in Jamie Dixon.
Speaker 1: Well, you're putting your faith in Jamie Dixon and Hubert
Speaker 1: Davis in the same week. What could go Yeah, absolutely
Speaker 1: nothing could go wrong in that spot. So our next
Speaker 1: show will come out later in the week. And you
Speaker 1: know who the next opponent is already, don't you. Of
Speaker 1: course you do. Going to Columbia after this, Kansas just
Speaker 1: going right through some of the most forgettable cities in
Speaker 1: the Midwest, Omaha, Columbia. They may as well play a
Speaker 1: game in the middle of Des Moines, Iowa, and just
Speaker 1: go ahead and.
Speaker 2: Des Moines a lovely place.
Speaker 1: No, it's I was gonna say it's actually, but I
Speaker 1: wound up just saying it's ass. So either one works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot out there. I've been there. It happens.
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Speaker 1: We'll be back, hopefully with with Landon on the next
Speaker 1: show to talk about Kansas getting white brigaded by Creighton.
Speaker 1: Will be fun.