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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>Officials from the US and China are agreeing for a

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<v Speaker 1>call to take place between President Biden and Shi Jinping.

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<v Speaker 1>Call will be part of efforts to smooth the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between the two countries. What does that call sound like,

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<v Speaker 1>my lord? Agreement comes from a meeting held today in

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<v Speaker 1>Beijing between the NSA and a top Chinese official. They

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<v Speaker 1>agreed Biden and she agreed in November to have increased

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<v Speaker 1>communications between the two sides.

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<v Speaker 2>A young boy accidentally smashed a jar while on a

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<v Speaker 2>visit to a museum in Israel. This jar dated back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Bronze Age, sometime between twenty two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen hundred BC. It had been on display at the

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<v Speaker 2>Hecked Museum in Haifa for thirty five years for a

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<v Speaker 2>four year old's grubby little hands took it down. It

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<v Speaker 2>was on display right near the entrance to the museum

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<v Speaker 2>without any sort of glass surround because museum administrators believe

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<v Speaker 2>that there is a special charm in displaying archaeological finds

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<v Speaker 2>without obstructions. Maybe next time we display it without four

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<v Speaker 2>year olds. Also, yeah, they're killing those owls. Man which

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<v Speaker 2>owl number the owls?

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<v Speaker 1>The plan to kill all the owls so that the

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<v Speaker 1>other owls can thrive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, now it's official.

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<v Speaker 1>Wildlife officials next year will scale up efforts to kill

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<v Speaker 1>invasive barred owls that are crowding out the native owls

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<v Speaker 1>from the West coast forests.

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<v Speaker 3>They've approved a.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty year plan to kill up to four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two thousand barred owls in Oregon, California, and Washington State.

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<v Speaker 1>I say the killings are meant to relieve pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>declining populations of spotted owls, which are smaller need larger

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<v Speaker 1>territories to survive.

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<v Speaker 3>That's off.

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<v Speaker 1>I I almost wanted John and Ken this story and

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<v Speaker 1>go out there with bullhorns and things and just yell

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<v Speaker 1>at these people for killing the barred owls.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't there a way?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a barred owl relocation program you can engage

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<v Speaker 1>in or something You're just gonna go, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kill him?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you shoot them? Are you gonna poison them? Something

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<v Speaker 3>tells me this is not just about the barred owls.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about the owls.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just gonna wipe out all the four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two thousand owls for the other owls.

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<v Speaker 3>Feels like something else is going on here. No, not really, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe nothing else is going on, and that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>focused on the owls a lot of Maybe it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to go get an arts and crafts project from Michael's.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, it's time for It's time for swamp watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Swamp is horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>The government make it's like a reality TV shoot bado

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<v Speaker 2>always a pleasure to be in.

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<v Speaker 3>Where in Washington, DC?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Joe, a town hall too, clearly built on a

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<v Speaker 5>swamp in so many ways, still a swamp.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a bunch of malwarkey.

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<v Speaker 7>W he said, drain the swamp. I said, Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 7>so I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep you, you know the the sixty nine days until

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<v Speaker 1>election day, former President Trump Jade Vance holding events in

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<v Speaker 1>swing states this week. He's going to hold a town

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<v Speaker 1>hall in Wisconsin tomorrow, speak at a rally in Pennsylvania Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance is set to speak at rallies in Pennsylvania and

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin today. Kamala Harris and Tim Walls kick off their

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<v Speaker 1>bus tour in Georgia later this afternoon. They've got a

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<v Speaker 1>rally in Savannah tomorrow, and then tomorrow night is when

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to do their big first interview together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're going to do it on CNN.

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<v Speaker 2>Dana Bash is going to interview them in Savannah, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Some criticism of it includes the idea that, well, maybe they.

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<v Speaker 3>Shouldn't do it together. This is not a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Jennings is a Republican conservative commentator on CNN who said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not going to be a good look for

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<v Speaker 8>Have great confidence in Dana and CNN to do this.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's incredibly weak, weak sauce to show up

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<v Speaker 8>with your running mate, the fact that they don't have

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<v Speaker 8>actual top of the ticket and do a single interview.

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<v Speaker 8>In fact, I think the hand ringing and the gyrations

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<v Speaker 8>of confidence in her political ability, which also makes you wonder,

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<v Speaker 8>as a voter, well, what kind of president would you

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<v Speaker 7>A small time decision?

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<v Speaker 8>Can we do an interview or not what does that

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<v Speaker 8>look like for your decision making process?

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<v Speaker 9>So on.

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<v Speaker 8>So yes, I think Republicans are going to think it's

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<v Speaker 8>pretty weak to show up with effectively someone to take

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<v Speaker 2>And we've heard from people who say they do want

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<v Speaker 2>to see them together because they want to see how

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<v Speaker 2>the two of them interact if they're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the two most important jobs in the American government,

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<v Speaker 2>and and other people said that we'd rather see her

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<v Speaker 2>alone because it gives it's, if nothing else, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>How does she do under a high pressure situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to tag team a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these questions. I don't know how you can't, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to go there just to sit in silence.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless Dana Bash says this is a question specifically for

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<v Speaker 2>the for the vice president, that she should do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then say something, OK, okay, Governor Walls, now this

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<v Speaker 2>question is specifically for you or something like that to delineate.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it gonna be taped or live? I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be taped. It better not be.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've I think we've established that these things

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<v Speaker 2>need to either be live or they need to be

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<v Speaker 2>aired in their entirety, y saw with with Biden and

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<v Speaker 2>George Stephanoppolis.

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<v Speaker 1>But they will say probably something like how do they

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<v Speaker 1>get around it edited for for time or what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, do you think CNN would edit, would like

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<v Speaker 1>cut out something embarrassing with it if there was.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they have.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why I think they would do it live,

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<v Speaker 2>just for the to make sure that there's no appearance

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<v Speaker 2>of impropriety, just to be on the up and up.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a couple of articles also today, one opinion

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<v Speaker 2>Times that Kamala Harris has surpassed Gavin Newsom and the

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<v Speaker 2>governor is not happy. That was the La Times headline,

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<v Speaker 2>the one in Politico why Gavin Newsom lost star surrogate

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<v Speaker 2>status under Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been friends.

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<v Speaker 2>You've heard Gaven Newsom refer to their friendship before they

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<v Speaker 2>even got into politics in San Francisco, and the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking twenty five thirty years later. They meet on

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<v Speaker 2>arguably the biggest political stage that they had both been on,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the Democratic National Convention last week, and Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>had a brief cameo role where he delivered the state's

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<v Speaker 2>delegates to the vice president this ceremonial vote.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>He did not look like he was happy, surrounded by

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<v Speaker 2>California's Democratic political class there with Maxine Waters and not

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<v Speaker 2>Diane Feinstein. Sorry Nancy Pelosi. I'm sure the ghost of

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<v Speaker 2>Diane Einstein was somewhere around there. But then that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>He had no other role at the convention.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that he turned it down.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Monday night thing, yes, that they offered him

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<v Speaker 5>the curtain raising position and he said, no, I've got

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<v Speaker 5>to put my kid in a new school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like Gavin Newsom does the parenting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing about him saying he had to

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<v Speaker 2>take his kid's trick or treaty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, using your children as a cover for your I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know if I had kids, i'd do the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing from time to time, Like if there's something I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of, I'd be like, eh.

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<v Speaker 1>I even toyed with the idea of when I started

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<v Speaker 1>my next job, unfortunately, I mean not unfortunately, fortunately I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't started my next job, but that I would bring

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<v Speaker 1>a picture, a generic picture of some children and put

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<v Speaker 1>it on my desk so that I could use my

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<v Speaker 1>fictional children to get out of whatever I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of or take off. Oh, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>get my kid to a doctor's appointment on Tuesday at

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<v Speaker 1>eleven am. I just had an idea that that would

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<v Speaker 1>be nice to have that. But of course I'm kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gavin Newsom routinely uses his children as cover and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just another level of grossness.

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<v Speaker 2>The Politico article says Newsom's reduced role in the campaign

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<v Speaker 2>has fueled parlor intrigue in Sacramento. Political insiders questioned the

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<v Speaker 2>governor's status as a national surrogate and how his own

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<v Speaker 2>potential future presidential ambitions could be affected by Harris's rise. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>right around the time of the debate between Trump and Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin Newsom was going through Northeastern states stumping for Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember he was an active open surrogate for Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>And once Kamala Harris gets to the top of the ticket,

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<v Speaker 2>he's nowhere to be found.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is a crazy, crazy thing to think of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you think in eight years, So let's say she wins,

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<v Speaker 1>see he benefits from her losing. He benefits from a

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<v Speaker 1>Trump presidency because then he can run against him in

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<v Speaker 1>four years. I listen, I don't think he would make

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<v Speaker 1>it out of the primary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unusual for a vice president to be elected. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Georgie H. W. Bush was the only one

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen in decades. But if she does win, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think she has a two term I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>she's got two terms in her. You don't think that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think she'd run again. Well, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't run again. I'm just saying she wouldn't win.

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<v Speaker 3>I see.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way, he is still squeezed out. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're right. I mean he would be squeezed out.

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<v Speaker 1>He squeezed out for eight years, no matter what you say.

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<v Speaker 1>If she wins, seems like it, and that makes him

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four in eight years, and in this new world

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<v Speaker 1>where we elect eighty year olds, he still got runway.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still got time to run. We got runway. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the big deals.

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<v Speaker 2>Also on the other side of the aisle is this

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<v Speaker 2>superseding indictment that was filed against Donald Trump. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that with ABC's Peter harr Alamos when we come back.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 3>Forty bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be talking about this new report that

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<v Speaker 2>came out that suggests that parenting can be stressful.

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<v Speaker 1>The Surgeon General says that a huge percentage of parents

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<v Speaker 1>can't function with all the stress. This Surgeon General is

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<v Speaker 1>he's a little sensitive. This is like the third thing

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<v Speaker 1>he's come out with, and I'll find the other ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Just these general proclamations that we are largely in peril. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand, I mean we are, we are perilous people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's one thing to acknowledge that parenting can be stressful.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the surge in general to issue a proclamation

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives people, sometimes not everybody, but it gives people

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<v Speaker 3>Of think they have a clinical problem. Yeah, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>The shooter in the assassination attempt of former President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>searched online for events of both Trump and Biden. Saw

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<v Speaker 1>the Pennsylvania campaign rally where you opened fire last month

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<v Speaker 1>as a target of opportunity this according to a senior

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<v Speaker 1>a number of events or targets. According to the Special

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<v Speaker 1>the latest in a series of briefings about that investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jack Smith is out with a take two on

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<v Speaker 2>his indictment former President Trump for his efforts to overturn

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty election. Made some changes to accommodate the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity, joining us to talk

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<v Speaker 2>more about it. ABC's Peter Harralambo's the ABC News investigative

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<v Speaker 2>reporter out of New York, and Peter, some of these

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<v Speaker 2>changes were big, obviously noticeable, some of them a little

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's exactly right, and thanks for having me, Gary

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<v Speaker 4>and Chrenton. It seems as though Jack Smith had to

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<v Speaker 4>the Supreme Court decision, trying to figure out a way

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<v Speaker 4>to frame this case about a lot of Trump's conduct

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<v Speaker 4>when he was president and make it so that it

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<v Speaker 4>would not be construed as official acts that would have

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<v Speaker 4>been protected by the Supreme Court's decision. So when we

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<v Speaker 4>look at this new indictment, we see entire sections about

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's relation and involvement with the Department of Gusice completely removed.

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<v Speaker 4>It also adds kind of more subtle entries framing certain

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<v Speaker 4>as a candidate for office, rather than as the president

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<v Speaker 4>of the United States at the time. They're hoping that

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<v Speaker 4>this new kind of repackaging of the allegations and it's

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<v Speaker 4>really the same charges here will kind of allow them

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<v Speaker 4>to withstand the Supreme Court scrutiny and go forward with

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<v Speaker 4>this case. So it seems like it might take a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, it's going to be delayed, delayed, delayed. The

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<v Speaker 1>names left off of this indictment, that does not preclude

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<v Speaker 1>charges from being filed in the future against them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. It seems as though we're unlikely to see

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<v Speaker 4>new charges come up in the next few months. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a DOJ policy that generally recommends against adding new charges

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<v Speaker 4>or making substance major moves in a case within sixty

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<v Speaker 4>days of an election, but it's possible that months years

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<v Speaker 4>from now, if this case proceeds, we could see even

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<v Speaker 4>more changes, So that's that's still a possibility Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand this is a deadline that the judge set

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<v Speaker 2>for both sides to come forward with suggestions what do

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<v Speaker 2>we expect to see between now and then.

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<v Speaker 4>So for now we're unlikely to see too much movement

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<v Speaker 4>with the case. By Friday, we should see that ruling,

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of plan from both parties where they lay

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<v Speaker 4>out kind of the next steps for this case. An

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<v Speaker 4>indictment is one thing. The other thing is kind of

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<v Speaker 4>showing how this case can effectively move forward and go

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<v Speaker 4>to trial. They have a hearing schedule tentatively for next Thursday,

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<v Speaker 4>also possible that we see some kind of arraignment, even

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<v Speaker 4>though filing yesterday from Jack Smith's team suggested that Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>as the defendant here, would likely waive his right to

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Peter, great stuff, Thank you, yeah, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Troving you guys, Peter, har Alambus again, ABC News investigative

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<v Speaker 2>reporter there in New York City. You mentioned that Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris and Tim Walls are going to be headed

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<v Speaker 2>throughout rural Georgia over then couple of days as part

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<v Speaker 2>of their campaign. The importance of Georgia cannot necessarily can't

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of people are talking about it, how

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<v Speaker 1>it's a high risk, high reward type of a trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they said that returning to the trail after the

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<v Speaker 2>convention to visit a state that many Democrats said was

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<v Speaker 2>out of reach in recent months, which it was now.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden won Georgia in twenty twenty, but barely. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was by two tenths of a percentage point. That

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<v Speaker 2>of course prompted that call from President Trump to Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Kemp or it was the Secretary of State actually

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<v Speaker 2>where he was asking for. You know, all he needs

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<v Speaker 2>is eleven thousand votes to be shifted about two months

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<v Speaker 2>until election day.

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<v Speaker 3>So they are now in a race to try to

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<v Speaker 2>And the latest polls do show that Trump does still

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<v Speaker 2>have a lead there in Georgia, but that the gap

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<v Speaker 2>is closing since Biden left the race, and Harris's aes

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<v Speaker 2>aides have argued that it's one of those states that

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<v Speaker 2>the ticket, and they said it makes sense to spend

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<v Speaker 2>some time there, to put in the work there, even

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<v Speaker 2>though they need to make a serious play with competitive

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<v Speaker 2>Midwest as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like your jeopardy question today? Military bases for

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand? John McCain was born on a US military

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<v Speaker 1>base near a strategic waterway in this Latin American country.

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<v Speaker 3>Ksand them up, See all right, coming up? And how

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<v Speaker 3>old he was he when he was born?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was just born. Do you know how many

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<v Speaker 1>weeks his mother was pregnant for? Did you come early?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. You don't know that?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the part about how old he was when

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<v Speaker 2>he was born is a lot easier than knowing.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a pre Was he premie?

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<v Speaker 10>You're the one that.

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<v Speaker 7>Brought it up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, do you know how old he was when

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<v Speaker 1>he was born? I don't know how many it was?

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<v Speaker 3>Zero?

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was still growing in the stomach, not

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<v Speaker 1>what he was born. Why are we fighting over this?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's ridiculous conversation we've had in a while.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody needs a haircut? Look at you? Oh, I can

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<v Speaker 3>do it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Really a couple of little clarification According to New York Times,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a couple different places that I saw. But

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times says CNN is planning to tape

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<v Speaker 2>that uh interview with Vice President Kamala Harrison, Governor Tim

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<v Speaker 2>Walls and then air it tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 3>At six o'clock our time.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't know if they're going to erit in it's entirety,

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<v Speaker 2>or if they're going to edit it for length or time.

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<v Speaker 3>Or foibles, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But apparently CNN we'll be taping that joint appearance between

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the ghost of Ken, not that he is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer with us, but in this room, the work coast,

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<v Speaker 1>the work ghost. When he used to do this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, he'd repeat odd words like John would say

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<v Speaker 3>It lives within me.

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<v Speaker 10>When you know you're on fire as a co host,

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<v Speaker 10>when you look who's here?

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<v Speaker 1>So true, justin whan it's basically I'm not paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to what you just said.

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<v Speaker 7>Good point, Gary.

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<v Speaker 3>She just looks up from the computer. But I agree,

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on with you.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh man so much.

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<v Speaker 10>I was going to ask you if you guys were

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<v Speaker 10>okay with me talking about this, but now I'm just

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<v Speaker 10>gonna okay, great, But I forgot. I was in there

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<v Speaker 10>chatting in the control room and then Keanu was like,

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<v Speaker 10>you can go in there now, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 10>is it like time time?

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<v Speaker 7>And they were just like yeah, I go okay.

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<v Speaker 10>I just want to give a quick PSA to everybody

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<v Speaker 10>out there because I lost my dad a couple of

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<v Speaker 10>He had four accounts that were just in his name,

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<v Speaker 10>and so I've now it's become my passion because I'm

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<v Speaker 10>now on the other side of it. For probably about

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<v Speaker 10>eight years, my parents had this plan of like my

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<v Speaker 10>the bank accounts are, I don't know what bills we owe,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know anything. If something happens to you, I'm screwed.

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<v Speaker 10>And my dad would say to her, don't worry, Justin

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<v Speaker 10>will take care of it and I'll be one.

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<v Speaker 3>That confidence he did.

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<v Speaker 10>And I'll be honest, he was not wrong. And there

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<v Speaker 10>have been moments that I have felt immense.

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<v Speaker 7>Pride and.

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<v Speaker 10>I want to say the word gratitude of just being

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<v Speaker 10>given the opportunity to say, you know, to take care

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<v Speaker 10>of them, because I firmly believe they did such an

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<v Speaker 10>amazing job taking care of me there. But there's also

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<v Speaker 10>have a trust because then at least that gives you

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<v Speaker 10>the ability to donate the proceeds of the sale of

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<v Speaker 10>to nothing, or your family having to hire an attorney

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<v Speaker 10>to go through probate, like it's just a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially, I was going to say, especially if there is

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean, if there is any sort of conflict

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<v Speaker 2>who would inherit, whatever you have it, if it's spelled

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<v Speaker 2>out in the trust, there's no conflict, I mean basically hopefully,

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<v Speaker 10>It has ruined the relationship with me and my brother

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<v Speaker 10>as wow. Literally like twenty five hours after my dad

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<v Speaker 10>I called him a piece of ass.

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<v Speaker 1>If everyone's hurt right now, you're still in a fog,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it just you have to be gentle like

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you're super financially oriented and this is

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<v Speaker 1>something for you to focus on, yes, but you know

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<v Speaker 7>And you don't get a chance to.

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<v Speaker 3>It's awful.

432
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<v Speaker 7>I beg my dad two years ago.

433
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<v Speaker 10>I said, Dad, I need you to put everything in

434
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<v Speaker 10>a trust, because he told me for years he had one,

435
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<v Speaker 10>and then I found out four years ago he didn't.

436
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<v Speaker 10>So I it literally for did a conversation I would have.

437
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<v Speaker 10>He'd say, hey, sign, I go, hey, Dad, how are you?

438
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<v Speaker 10>Did you get a trust yet? And you go no,

439
00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:04.599
<v Speaker 10>but I'm working on it.

440
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<v Speaker 3>Do you think he had one?

441
00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:06.559
<v Speaker 7>Nope?

442
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Or he just wanted to listen.

443
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<v Speaker 10>I've said many many wonderful things about my father on

444
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<v Speaker 10>the show, and I continue to take.

445
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<v Speaker 3>Them all.

446
00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:17.039
<v Speaker 7>And all serious.

447
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<v Speaker 4>This.

448
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<v Speaker 10>My father was an incredible father and an amazing grandfather.

449
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<v Speaker 10>I was very lucky to have him, and my kids

450
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<v Speaker 10>were very lucky to have him. But he was not

451
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<v Speaker 10>the best husband. He did not He was kind of

452
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<v Speaker 10>secretive about money. He told me some things, so I

453
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<v Speaker 10>knew he taught me how I manage our money, and

454
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<v Speaker 10>so I had an idea. But then when I got

455
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<v Speaker 10>into it, there's so many things he does that don't

456
00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.279
<v Speaker 10>make any sense, to be honest with you, And so

457
00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:43.839
<v Speaker 10>you get caught in this weird thing of how do

458
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<v Speaker 10>you do the right thing by him and his memory

459
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<v Speaker 10>and what he would have wanted, but when it's not

460
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<v Speaker 10>technically the right thing. And I told him, I said, Dad,

461
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<v Speaker 10>I don't think my brother and sister are happy with

462
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<v Speaker 10>you right now, and I'm worried that if you go

463
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<v Speaker 10>something happens to you that then I become the You

464
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<v Speaker 10>become the place that they're going to put their anger.

465
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<v Speaker 10>And we all know I'm already crying here now.

466
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<v Speaker 7>I can't take that.

467
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not strong about especially right now.

468
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<v Speaker 7>You can't. I can't.

469
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<v Speaker 10>I have not I can't really have moments to just

470
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<v Speaker 10>be in it because there's.

471
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<v Speaker 7>Always a job to do.

472
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<v Speaker 1>I think that your experience is probably really common. I

473
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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people struggle with emotions about parents

474
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<v Speaker 1>that have gone that that listen, it's very rare to

475
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<v Speaker 1>be financially in order to have that house in order.

476
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<v Speaker 3>It's it's not a gift everyone has.

477
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<v Speaker 1>You can be the best person in the world, but

478
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<v Speaker 1>horrible with money, and I think some of the best

479
00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:39.079
<v Speaker 1>people I know are horrible with money. But it is

480
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:42.079
<v Speaker 1>a conflicting thing because you want to mourn, but at

481
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<v Speaker 1>the same time you're pissed off, and that screws you

482
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<v Speaker 1>up just as much.

483
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<v Speaker 7>You get you get saddled with guilt.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Noah and the three of us are now in this

485
00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:52.960
<v Speaker 2>awful club, right. I mean that other people belong to it,

486
00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:55.200
<v Speaker 2>but but we are now in this club where we've

487
00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.400
<v Speaker 2>all lost our fathers. And even if the to your

488
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<v Speaker 2>point about having something in place, having a trust and

489
00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:03.480
<v Speaker 2>a plan. Even if you do have some of that

490
00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff in place. My parents did have a trust, but

491
00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.319
<v Speaker 2>there's still stuff that's that is is unresolved. You know

492
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:14.799
<v Speaker 2>that that will be and I'm eight months past my

493
00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:17.440
<v Speaker 2>dad dying, but there's still stuff that we've had to

494
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<v Speaker 2>work out between the sisters and I and how we're

495
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:24.279
<v Speaker 2>going to finagle this or and as much preparation as

496
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:27.519
<v Speaker 2>they had for accounts or vehicles or property or whatever,

497
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:30.119
<v Speaker 2>there's still a guy that's living in their house. I mean,

498
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:32.200
<v Speaker 2>there's the squatter that we've been trying to deal with.

499
00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:35.079
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't their fault necessarily. It was just like, well,

500
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:37.279
<v Speaker 2>we didn't need an agreement with this guy because we

501
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.319
<v Speaker 2>just thought he would go when when it was time

502
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:42.240
<v Speaker 2>to go, which is clearly not the case. So even

503
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>as prepared as you you know you can be, there's

504
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:46.519
<v Speaker 2>still the potential for there to be some loose an.

505
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:47.000
<v Speaker 7>He had a.

506
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.480
<v Speaker 10>Quadruple bypass surgery this last December and that opened his eyes.

507
00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:54.400
<v Speaker 10>He started the process, but he prioritized my grandmother's trust

508
00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:56.960
<v Speaker 10>to update hers. He built it with her and it

509
00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:59.240
<v Speaker 10>was already there. He just wanted to update it, so

510
00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:01.960
<v Speaker 10>he didn't do his and so, but he just it

511
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.599
<v Speaker 10>came out of nowhere, and so I'm just trying to

512
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:06.880
<v Speaker 10>tell as many people as I can. I brought it

513
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 10>up at a PTA meeting. I brought it up at

514
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:10.880
<v Speaker 10>my networking meeting this morning. I figured this is a

515
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:13.519
<v Speaker 10>great outlet to let people know because it literally can

516
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:16.359
<v Speaker 10>save you so much heartache in my opinion, I don't know,

517
00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:18.440
<v Speaker 10>I guess I mean, maybe you guys could speak more

518
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.160
<v Speaker 10>to it. I haven't been on the other side of

519
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:24.160
<v Speaker 10>it where it's even quasi organized. But my dad has

520
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 10>a rental property and their least agreements have been up

521
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:29.599
<v Speaker 10>since twenty seventeen. He hasn't even touched it. He hasn't

522
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.279
<v Speaker 10>increased the rent. That's their sole income. Now my mom's

523
00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 10>income has been cut in almost half. Like it's there's

524
00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:36.599
<v Speaker 10>and it's all. I have to take care of my

525
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.359
<v Speaker 10>grandma's estate, my parents estate as well, and then my

526
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.960
<v Speaker 10>mother in law's estate, and it's ale have just been nice.

527
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:45.039
<v Speaker 2>How about this. Every Wednesday when you come in, we

528
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:47.519
<v Speaker 2>just do a state planning. I'll just talk about a state.

529
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.640
<v Speaker 7>I should probably go to law school before we start talking.

530
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:51.799
<v Speaker 3>I've got a free weekend before football.

531
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I will go to the University of Phoenix.

532
00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:55.759
<v Speaker 3>I will figure all of it out. If it gives

533
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:56.839
<v Speaker 3>you two minutes of peace.

534
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<v Speaker 7>Good joby, you guyso much better.

535
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:02.839
<v Speaker 3>I'll Phoenix. Well, we're glad you're back. I mean, I

536
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:04.279
<v Speaker 3>know this is a yeah, I'll be gone.

537
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:05.880
<v Speaker 7>I was gone for my family for a month.

538
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:07.880
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, just taking care of and I had to stay

539
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:09.880
<v Speaker 10>there for ten days after he passed, just to get

540
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 10>but my mom.

541
00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:11.039
<v Speaker 7>Has a trust.

542
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Now does Jack have kids?

543
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:13.799
<v Speaker 7>I don't know yet. I haven't seen his face.

544
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you've brought her. No, I'm glad you're name though.

545
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:21.359
<v Speaker 10>I just took a guess to be honest, carry I

546
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 10>just I just figured this was not the time Mark

547
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:25.880
<v Speaker 10>you was Shannon. She wouldn't take that Lowa blow right

548
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 10>right after my dad passed. Trust me, she might tell

549
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.759
<v Speaker 10>you guys are the best and we'll continue.

550
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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf

551
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<v Speaker 6>I Am six forty.

552
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<v Speaker 3>Doing it for you, honey.

553
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 7>He keeps her spicy.

554
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, k IF I Am six forty live everywhere

555
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:51.039
<v Speaker 2>on the iHeartRadio app.

556
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Justin Warsham has.

557
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<v Speaker 2>Joined us again, back back at it after dealing with life.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Also, I want to say that you guys were really

560
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 10>kind and I was not as kind. I think I

561
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:06.640
<v Speaker 10>was wired differently as that I felt like I'm a friend,

562
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 10>and I didn't. I didn't want to bring up anything

563
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:12.000
<v Speaker 10>or anything. But now that I know that, when people

564
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 10>tell you like, hey, i'm sorry, it means something like

565
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:16.960
<v Speaker 10>it does. So thank you both, and I'm sorry that

566
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:20.559
<v Speaker 10>I didn't return the favor. But thank you. You guys

567
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:21.160
<v Speaker 10>are good friends.

568
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 3>You're going to change your life now, are you. I

569
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 3>mean you're gonna have this weird thing where Ms.

570
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Patricia says to do nothing for a year after someone

571
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>close to you dies because you're just don't make any

572
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>big decisions. Don't buy a car, don't don't do anything

573
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.519
<v Speaker 1>big because it takes a year to like really come

574
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>back to normal.

575
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 7>I've heard that.

576
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's why Dave Ramsey in his financial course, he

577
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 10>tells you that your life insurance should be ten times

578
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 10>your annual salary because then you want to be able

579
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.000
<v Speaker 10>to take care of whoever is left behind for ten

580
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 10>years while you could still be there.

581
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:52.559
<v Speaker 7>So they can the.

582
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 10>First year they like they just shouldn't even touch it,

583
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:56.160
<v Speaker 10>like he says, don't do anything in the first year,

584
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 10>but after that then you can. You just you could

585
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 10>make bigger decisions, but you just off of it for

586
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 10>the first year, and then after that.

587
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 3>How are the kids.

588
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 10>My sons were, Okay, I don't know if I did

589
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 10>it right. I told them, I said, I'm sorry if

590
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:09.480
<v Speaker 10>I did it wrong. But he passed away on the

591
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.720
<v Speaker 10>first day of school, and it was like nine He

592
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:16.880
<v Speaker 10>literally passed away at nine to fifteen am, no pm pm. Okay, So,

593
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 10>and like twenty minutes beforehand, my wife sent me this

594
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.039
<v Speaker 10>beautiful video of my son doing his homework while practicing

595
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 10>his audition for the musical singing Surrey with the Fringe

596
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 10>on Top from Oklahoma, of course, and my other son

597
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 10>was talking to his friends and they just had great

598
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 10>first days of school, and I just i'd looked at

599
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:36.119
<v Speaker 10>my mom and I said, I don't think this is

600
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.200
<v Speaker 10>the right thing. And then the next day they were

601
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 10>having rough nights, but we didn't want to make it worse,

602
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:41.480
<v Speaker 10>and so they didn't find out for a couple of

603
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 10>days afterwards.

604
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was about their age, or I was at

605
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:48.119
<v Speaker 2>least about the age of the year older son. When

606
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>my grandmother died and it was one of those where

607
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I was I did not want to have anything to

608
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:56.440
<v Speaker 2>do with it, not because I wasn't close to her.

609
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she literally had lived with us for a

610
00:28:58.119 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 2>couple of years, so I was close enough with her,

611
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 2>but I remember that that time of life where you

612
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>that's not a thing. And I don't know if it

613
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>was just that my lack of emotions or whatever how

614
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 2>he treated in the family, but I didn't want to

615
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 2>have anything to do with it. I didn't want to

616
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>know when it happened. I didn't want to know any

617
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 2>details yourself. Probably my older.

618
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.920
<v Speaker 10>Son wanted to know, like I think he even wanted

619
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.039
<v Speaker 10>to know the nitty gritter. He literally his question was

620
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.359
<v Speaker 10>how did he go? Like he wanted to hear the story.

621
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 10>So I told him the story. He was very peaceful

622
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:27.400
<v Speaker 10>in his sleep like he wanted.

623
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 7>He told me.

624
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 10>Since I was a kid, I hope I go and sleep,

625
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 10>and I just hope it's quick. And so that's exactly

626
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 10>what happened. But what I thought was interesting that normally

627
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 10>I would be defensive against and push back against, but

628
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 10>in this case I just let it go. Is that

629
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 10>when my kids came up to see me at my

630
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 10>parents' house after he had gone.

631
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:46.160
<v Speaker 7>They immediately wanted his things and it was pretty adorable.

632
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 3>My son nephew's were that way with my dad.

633
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:48.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

634
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 10>My older son went up and put on his clothes, yeah,

635
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 10>and wanted to.

636
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 3>Wear his hats. They went through his closet like right away, I.

637
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 10>Played dress up like. He came down with dad's old

638
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.119
<v Speaker 10>belt buckles he was wearing. My dad had these like

639
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 10>elephants in cowboy boots. He got Texas when we went

640
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 10>to go visit a family family we have there and

641
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 10>he just was putting it all and then he went

642
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 10>to sleep in the bed.

643
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<v Speaker 7>That they have set us like this trundle bed for

644
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 7>the kids.

645
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:11.519
<v Speaker 10>And he left that in the middle of the night

646
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<v Speaker 10>and late and Grandpa's recliner and slept there all night,

647
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<v Speaker 10>just because I think he wanted to be close to him,

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<v Speaker 10>you know. And my my younger son and wanted his

649
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<v Speaker 10>wedding ring. He said, can I have some of Grandpa's

650
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<v Speaker 10>rings because my dad liked jewelry.

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<v Speaker 3>Hem.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, he wants to pawn him to get some Fortnite

653
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<v Speaker 10>bucks he wants, Yeah, for my gift card. Thanks thanks

654
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<v Speaker 10>for bringing me back to her shand and that's right.

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<v Speaker 10>I almost shame him those rings. He is not socially responsible,

656
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.799
<v Speaker 10>because it would be really funny if he turned he

657
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<v Speaker 10>was found a way to ride his bike.

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<v Speaker 1>To that your dad, you were miling down the entire

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<v Speaker 1>bike ride.

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<v Speaker 10>To tell you this quick story, because I really think

661
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<v Speaker 10>my dad would get a kick out of this, is

662
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<v Speaker 10>that you have to after somebody passes away for whatever reason, ceremonies,

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<v Speaker 10>so you have to call all the people that they knew.

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<v Speaker 10>And I would call them from my phone because I

665
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<v Speaker 10>thought it was super creepy to call my dad, like

666
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<v Speaker 10>from my dad's phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Good point.

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<v Speaker 10>And then they don't recognize your number, and so then

669
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<v Speaker 10>you're forced to leave voicemails or say, hey, I'm this

670
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.319
<v Speaker 10>guy's son that you don't know. Call me unrelated, everything's fine,

671
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 10>but just call me. And so there's one guy. My

672
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 10>dad and mom had this thing where they would call

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<v Speaker 10>their friends for their birthdays and saying happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 7>This guy that my dad used to work with.

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<v Speaker 10>He didn't call him because he just wasn't feeling well,

676
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 10>and so the guy called him back because he didn't

677
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 10>get a call for his birthday and my dad wasn't

678
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 10>didn't have the energy to take the call. This was

679
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 10>in like mid July, So now I'm calling him a

680
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<v Speaker 10>few days after my dad had passed, and the poor

681
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 10>guy picks up the phone and says to his wife, see,

682
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<v Speaker 10>I told you he wasn't dead. Hey, Jesse, how the

683
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:40.599
<v Speaker 10>hell are you? And I laughed a little bit.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll be this because my dad. One of my dad's

685
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<v Speaker 7>favorite moments.

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<v Speaker 10>Towards the end of his life, this is well before

687
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 10>he got sick, was that there was about a six

688
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 10>month period where medicare thought he was dead and he

689
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 10>got so much joy, so much pure joy he felt

690
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 10>from talking to people out a bureaucracy explaining that he

691
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 10>is not dead because they speaking to him right, and

692
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.680
<v Speaker 10>they just could not compute that. He thought that was

693
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<v Speaker 10>so funny, And thankfully this guy was socially awkward enough

694
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<v Speaker 10>that it didn't It just grazed him like he didn't

695
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<v Speaker 10>even care.

696
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<v Speaker 7>But that was really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you had the same experience chan him,

699
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.839
<v Speaker 2>but that those that round of phone calls, that's that

700
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:17.559
<v Speaker 2>was probably some of the toughest.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that was the toughest. Time you're calling people you

702
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 10>don't know. I called this guy that used to work

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00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.519
<v Speaker 10>for my dad when he had a contracting business thirty

704
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 10>years ago. And this is a guy who I used

705
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 10>to hang out with, was kind of my friend even

706
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.440
<v Speaker 10>though he was an adult. We played video games together.

707
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<v Speaker 10>He was a really nice guy. And what you the

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<v Speaker 10>But what I found nice about it, as hard as

709
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<v Speaker 10>it was, was that you start realizing the impact that

710
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<v Speaker 10>my dad had on just people that he worked with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>Like literally people adored my father at a level that

712
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.400
<v Speaker 10>I did not even know. Like it's it's almost kind

713
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<v Speaker 10>of sad that he didn't want a funeral service because

714
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 10>I don't think those people get a chance to come

715
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 10>and say what they wanted. So I just hear stories

716
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 10>like your dad was the greatest guy everybody across the board.

717
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 10>He taught me so much. He was just so much

718
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 10>fun to work with. Like a lot of the people

719
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.480
<v Speaker 10>that he worked with just really my fired him and

720
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 10>looked up to him, and he looked out for a

721
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<v Speaker 10>lot of younger guys.

722
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<v Speaker 7>He started the fishing tournament.

723
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<v Speaker 10>They do a Father's Day weekend fishing tournament at the

724
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 10>cabin community that he retired in, and now this year

725
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:11.920
<v Speaker 10>they're going to name it after him because I brought

726
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.200
<v Speaker 10>it back and they asked all of our family to

727
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.359
<v Speaker 10>come and participate. My mom usually does a lot of

728
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 10>the cooking, so I negotiated the terms that Mom will

729
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 10>only be sitting in a camping chair, drinking a glass

730
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<v Speaker 10>of wine, being a consultant, or cooking if she wants to,

731
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<v Speaker 10>but she does not.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to cook all.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to find this picture of I showed up

734
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<v Speaker 1>at a forty nine er game. My dad was a

735
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<v Speaker 1>fixture a candlestick and then Levi's or whatever. I show

736
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<v Speaker 1>up at a game after you'd passed, and one of

737
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<v Speaker 1>the guys that he tailgates with he was wearing a

738
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<v Speaker 1>white shirt with a picture of my dad.

739
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 3>He had a t shirt made of my.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad sitting in his tailgating chair, you know, like a

741
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<v Speaker 1>joint in his hand or something, and it was just

742
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<v Speaker 1>it was a great moment. It's like when you hear

743
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<v Speaker 1>good things I would imagine about your kids, Like when

744
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.519
<v Speaker 1>your kids go to friend's houses and they're like, your

745
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>kid is so well behaved, there's such a joy to

746
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>have Olivia or what have you, like, so proud. It's

747
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.039
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with parents when you find out what

748
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 1>they meant to people because you don't get to.

749
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<v Speaker 10>See You didn't see that, really see it, even if

750
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 10>you're at the game with him, you don't see it

751
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 10>from that lens of that person until weirdly enough, after

752
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 10>they're gone and they're telling you about that.

753
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<v Speaker 7>The guy who used to work with my dad, he said,

754
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 7>I have to go. He had to.

755
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:17.599
<v Speaker 10>He couldn't even talk to me on the phone. He

756
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:20.039
<v Speaker 10>got too emotional and he has I said, he goes,

757
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 10>I'm sorry, I can't talk right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like the guy that showed up at your

759
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<v Speaker 1>dad's house and you had to give him three hugs.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the propane guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great, like the propane multiple times because he adored

762
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 2>your pone.

763
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I mean it was.

764
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was, if I'm not mistaken, it was

765
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<v Speaker 2>like the morning after he passed away.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was. It was we were the weekend we

767
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 3>were doing the service, the funeral service.

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<v Speaker 10>That's a weird thing too, where you kind of feel

769
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<v Speaker 10>like you're emotionally caring for people that are just friendly

770
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<v Speaker 10>with your parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I was like, I mean, he hadn't he

772
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.119
<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen my dad for a few weeks because he'd

773
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<v Speaker 2>been a house bound. So I mean but he would

774
00:34:58.039 --> 00:34:59.599
<v Speaker 2>come and fill the propane, take and take off, and

775
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>they'd know each other for years and stuff.

776
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<v Speaker 3>But quick talk back for you, brother.

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<v Speaker 9>I feel for you going through a similar situation. But

778
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<v Speaker 9>I just remember, be slow to anger, quick to listen,

779
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 9>and just you know, let people.

780
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:18.960
<v Speaker 4>Just be themselves.

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00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 9>And if they're going to be evil and say horrible things,

782
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 9>just let them and still participate in it. Man, Sorry

783
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:26.480
<v Speaker 9>for your loss.

784
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:28.719
<v Speaker 10>Thanks, that's good advice. Yeah, I don't know that I

785
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 10>can listen to it. In regards to my brother right now,

786
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 10>I'll be honest, that's the hardest. That's going to be

787
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:34.480
<v Speaker 10>the hardest. That's the hardest one right now because of

788
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Speaker 10>the way he came out. But I will try.

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00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 7>I probably we're glad you're here at anything, my father.

790
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:40.679
<v Speaker 3>But now it's all.

791
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:45.280
<v Speaker 7>About you, man, god seeing Thanks for seeing me so much.

792
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795
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