WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.839 You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:05.639 In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to 3 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:08.400 bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've 4 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:12.759 seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:16.719 to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, 6 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.719 and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. 7 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:24.000 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. 8 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:27.440 To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that 9 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.120 just might change the way you see the woods forever. 10 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:33.799 So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome 11 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:37.159 back to another episode. We've got the privilege of talking 12 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:42.320 to Jared mcgilliard today. Jared is the director and an 13 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:46.320 executive producer of the show Monster Quest. Currently. How is 14 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:47.399 it going today, Jared? 15 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:51.520 Ah, that's great. Jeremia, how you doing, dude? 16 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.840 Doing so good. I'm just really glad that our mutual 17 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.840 friend Adam Davies was able to connect us in. Adam 18 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:01.640 reached out and was like, you should talk to Jared. 19 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:04.760 He's heading up the Monster Quest thing. I was like, yeah, yeah, 20 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:06.400 I think that that would be a good idea. Adam 21 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:10.680 I'll do that, and Adam we trust yeah exactly. Well, 22 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:12.400 I was like, as long as he could, does he 23 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:14.640 have bigfoot stuff to talk about? And he's he's got 24 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:16.400 bigfoot stuff to talk about. I don't worry about it. 25 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.480 I have to I could have. If I know Adam, 26 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:20.280 I must have some bigfoot stuff to talk about. 27 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:25.519 Exactly. So, Jared, man, let's start with the Monster Quest stuff. 28 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:28.760 You know, I've seen a few episodes already and it's 29 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:32.599 cool to see, you know, really people that I consider 30 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:36.319 to be my friends from this community show up on screen. 31 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:38.959 You you were able to get some really good witnesses. 32 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.040 Can we talk about I'm not going to spoil anything, right, 33 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:43.879 it's out in the open now, So that's all. 34 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:45.359 Right, it's out there. Let's talk to. 35 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:49.079 I mean, you were first episode, right out of the gate. 36 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.280 You were able to get mister Martin Groves such a 37 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:56.200 fantastic story, his dog man account from Land between the Lakes, 38 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:00.640 and Martin's such a such a great individual. And then 39 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:04.799 of course a good friend comes to mind, mister Daniel Hamilton. 40 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.120 Daniel yeh, and man. 41 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:11.400 You guys did a great job showing his encounter and 42 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:16.080 it really makes you think about it. A different way, like, 43 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:18.280 oh yeah, he was up in the tree, in that 44 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:20.400 tree stand and that's what was going on. And it's like, 45 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:23.159 oh my goodness, I love what you guys are doing 46 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:23.800 with this stuff. 47 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:27.919 Oh thanks a lot. Yeah, those stories, yeah, Martin was Yeah, 48 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.039 I love Martin. Just what a sweet, kind, generous guy. 49 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:33.439 And you know, Martin, we owe a lot to just 50 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:35.199 in terms of the show coming to be at all, 51 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:37.840 because that was the story we actually filmed for the 52 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:41.159 development or sizzle step that actually got it across the 53 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:45.159 finish line and had History fully commissioned the series. So 54 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:48.360 Martin's story was sort of like alas our north Star. 55 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:50.719 You know, it's hard to start with someone like Martin 56 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:53.560 and then you have every other story try to stack 57 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:56.479 up to it. But now he's so generous with his 58 00:02:56.599 --> 00:03:00.240 time and his story is just I mean just unforgettable, 59 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:04.240 unforgettable story. And Daniel's great. Yeah, I love Daniel. He 60 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.560 just his story was you know, it's there. I love 61 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:10.560 those stories that have like that weird element to it. 62 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:15.400 It's like you just couldn't you. The untying of a 63 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.599 shoe is just the most bizarre occurrence, you know, and 64 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:21.919 and sort of I love those aspects of those stories 65 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:23.800 that I feel like very one of a kind, and 66 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:25.639 his story definitely feels one of a kind like that. 67 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:29.400 Listeners will listen to this on February second. And as 68 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:32.520 of so the second, how many episodes will you have out? 69 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:32.960 Do you think? 70 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:35.319 I thought it'll be our six episodes, so six of 71 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:39.560 the eight. Yeah, and the episode coming up this week 72 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:42.120 is great. I mean, I don't know if Annem Barton, 73 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:43.800 Nunneley Barton. 74 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:44.439 Oh you got Barton? 75 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:50.120 Oh? His is His story is just it's actually one 76 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:53.599 of my favorite edits stories and just editing pieces of 77 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:56.879 the series. It's got such character to it and it's fun. 78 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:00.639 It's just and the music is kind of unforgettable. I'm 79 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:02.919 really excited to see that. I'm always more nervous for 80 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.159 like Barton to see his story, you know that. I 81 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:07.599 just feel like a lot of pressure with that. But 82 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:11.520 Barton's great. This guy named Michael Caine who hadn't encounter. 83 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:13.879 Yeah, Michael in Ohio. 84 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:18.199 Yeah you got it, yep, the grass Man, you got it? 85 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.079 Yeah, I kind of I kind of know the field 86 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:23.800 a little bit, right. Yeah. 87 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.560 Yeah, Michael is great, and his story is just just 88 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.879 also very cool and weird. And he's got some cool footage. 89 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:35.319 So yeah, there's we have a Times slip story Gwen 90 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.720 Johns and Gwen John's but a Times slip of this 91 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:41.680 Friday is really interesting, nice and uh and then a 92 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.680 woman named Joni Mayhem who had an encounter when she 93 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:49.120 was a kid as well. So yeah, really cool stories. 94 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:52.480 But Barton, Barton and Michaels are real fun. Yeah, I'll 95 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:54.920 be excited for you to see this, Jeremiah. 96 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.759 And that's why another reason I really like the show 97 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.800 right now, because half of it it is like, oh, 98 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:02.680 I really I know this person, I know this story. 99 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.399 It's a new interpretation for me because it's bigfoot stuff. 100 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:07.800 But then also you're throwing in other stuff too, which 101 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:09.480 is like I've never heard of this, and this is 102 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:14.040 really cool. So it's kind of a cool mixed uh bag. 103 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:17.079 But you know, Jared, let's talk a little bit about 104 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:20.319 you know, you have a history of doing so many shows. 105 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:23.720 I was looking through Nomadica Films your website and you've 106 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:28.319 done everything from you just did the was a Golden Greed, 107 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:32.079 the Netflix series right that was you and and all 108 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:34.319 sorts of stuff in the past. But how did you 109 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:38.000 get set up in linked up with the Monster Quest 110 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:41.439 series because you know, this isn't the there was Monster 111 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:44.319 Quests back in the day, and then out of nowhere, 112 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:46.399 it's back, like how did that happen? 113 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.399 Yeah, yeah, it's a cool story. I mean, I think 114 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.959 I'd always been interested in in encryptids. I grew up 115 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.000 in the Seattle area, Washington State, so you know, big 116 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.439 Sasquatch and Bigfoot was definitely just part of my the 117 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.759 culture of where I grew up. And then you know, 118 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.360 years and years and years ago, in the original installment 119 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:09.759 of Monster Quest, I produced one of their episodes and 120 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:13.319 we went to Nepal looking for the Yetie, and so 121 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:15.879 that was sort of my first time. That's where I 122 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.199 met Adam, and I really you know, I think that 123 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:23.199 the way that that the initial episode, initial series of 124 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:27.639 Monster Quests approached these types of stories and investigations, it 125 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.759 was so objective, it was so it was very trying 126 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:32.519 to be as scientific as it could be, and I 127 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:35.040 really appreciated that. I thought that that was like such 128 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:39.639 an interesting approach both for sort of like believers and 129 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:43.240 non believers, you know, and so I honestly these this 130 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.800 sort of cryptid world was something obviously I met Adam. 131 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:48.680 Adam and I talk a lot, and so you know, 132 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:52.399 this has always just been a part of an interest 133 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:55.879 level of mine and you know, where as you said, 134 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:59.079 in America, like we're we're pitching whether it's Netflix, History Channel, 135 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.759 Discovery Channel constantly, and so we had sat down with 136 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.120 a History channel and we're batting around a few ideas 137 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:07.360 and you know, sort of a cryptid show came up 138 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:10.000 and it wasn't Monster Quest, you know initially, which is 139 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:12.279 sort of, hey, this could be a really cool show. 140 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.839 There's more sightings and there's more you know, with social 141 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.920 media and podcasts like yours, it's like there's more access 142 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:21.839 to more stories than ever before. And I feel, you know, 143 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:23.759 I was thinking about like why why now is a 144 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:25.279 good time for bring it back? And that for me 145 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:27.839 was kind of like a big reason. It's like there's 146 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:32.040 just access to so many stories. And yeah, it started 147 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:34.399 as a conversation and then you know, we ended up 148 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:37.079 shooting a little development tape with Martin and put a 149 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:39.279 deck together and sort of outlined our vision for what 150 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.399 the series would be, and they went for it. And 151 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:44.839 then they eventually decided to sort of put it underneath 152 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.959 the Monster Quest banner, which I was thrilled with I 153 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.120 was honestly, it was like such an honor to sort 154 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:52.079 of feel like, oh, we're bringing it back because it 155 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:53.800 was such a you know, it was a big part 156 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:56.639 of my history, Monster Quest, and I just always thought 157 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:58.560 it was such an awesome show. So that's kind of 158 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.480 how it all came to be. But it's been a 159 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:03.120 really thrilling way to spend the last year and a 160 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.439 half of my life. Just tunneling into into the world. 161 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.079 We just had conversations with people, and long conversations, I 162 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:11.879 mean really talking about you know, and someone's going to 163 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:13.759 be hey, you should meet such and such person, or 164 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:15.480 you should talk to such. You know. We really wanted 165 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:17.319 to make sure people understood what the show was and 166 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.480 what the show was not. You know, this wasn't a 167 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:23.079 show where we were trying to prove or disprove someone's encounter, 168 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.319 you know, where we're trying to undercut it or you know. 169 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:28.120 We really were just trying to present these stories as 170 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.560 objectively as possible and then build the history around them. 171 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:34.399 And the history was fascinating to dig into. You know, 172 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:37.080 it's some of these occurrences I would have thought when 173 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:39.399 we met the witnesses oh, that must be just a 174 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:42.720 one off. There's no such thing as a one off experience. 175 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:46.360 I mean, there's just there really isn't. But it truly 176 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.600 was word of mouth. I mean we talked to hundreds 177 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.559 of people, you know, and I hear hope the other 178 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:53.799 season because there's just so many more amazing stories and 179 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:56.320 I think, you know what we you know, you kind 180 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.720 of start in the casting process and you know, you 181 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:00.840 sort of you have like your top tier, and then 182 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.120 you kind of fill it out. And obviously each each 183 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:06.279 episode is themed. Now that we've been through the first season, 184 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:10.000 so many of those stories that didn't quite make it 185 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:12.519 for that first for the first season, like I would 186 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:14.320 be thrilled to bring into the fold. And I'm sure 187 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:15.960 you know a lot of those people. I mean, there's 188 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:19.720 just there's no shortage of these of these encounters, and 189 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.799 they take you all over the globe, all over the 190 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:24.480 United States, all different types of people. There's not a 191 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:27.840 type a person that necessarily like has these encounters, you know. 192 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.000 So yeah, it was really it was all word of mouth, 193 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:36.320 but really just trying not to I really wanted the 194 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:40.039 show to be defined. It is defined truly by like 195 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:44.240 the witnesses and I really wanted credible witnesses that not 196 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.240 only would speak to the people who are already within 197 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:49.879 the crypto community and know them, but also to people, 198 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.039 you know, the general history audience that maybe didn't watch 199 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:55.000 the you know, the first installment of Monster Requests that 200 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:57.879 are coming fresh and I so, I, you know, finding 201 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:01.080 people that I felt were speaking very confident, with a 202 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:03.799 lot of credibility, with sort of like you know, like 203 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.360 the Daniel Hamilton details. It's like why you know you 204 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:10.000 could so you know, I was looking for specific ingredients. 205 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.159 It was strength. It was a great storyteller. You know, 206 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:13.759 I don't know if you know. 207 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:17.840 The judge was Shane the dog Man story, right. 208 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:22.039 Yeah, but I mean he's such a He's an amazing storyteller. 209 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.600 You know. It's like he delivers his story with such 210 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:29.120 confidence and clarity and incredible detail. And I think, no 211 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.279 matter whether you are somebody who is a believer or 212 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:34.399 non believer, or it is the first sort of Crypti 213 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.840 story you've heard, or like the one hundredth or thousandth 214 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:41.559 Crypti story you've heard, that confidence, level of detail and 215 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:44.879 that I think someone speak with means a lot. So, 216 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:47.960 you know, in terms of the casting and how he 217 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.000 found people. That was really it. It was a lot 218 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.679 of zoom calls, very long zoom calls, and then obviously, 219 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:55.320 you know, I get them down in the interview chair 220 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:57.240 and then it's a you know, two to three hour 221 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:00.039 two to three hour conversation where you're really trying to 222 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.919 pull out those details and those feelings and slow down 223 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.639 the story. But it was a blast. Yeah, it was 224 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:06.480 a lot of fun. 225 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:10.919 So are you having to like travel around the US 226 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.720 and meet people where they are or is it a 227 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.480 mixture like some people are coming to your studios or 228 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.159 like how does how is that working for this? 229 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:20.080 Yeah, you're you're right on. It was a mix. So 230 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.600 some people we flew, we flew into Seattle, we filmed 231 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:26.440 all everything here. Other people, you know, some people weren't 232 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.159 comfortable traveling or weren't able to travel, so we sort 233 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:31.440 of set up these little satellite areas where you know, 234 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:34.480 it was kind of close to some people. Martin for 235 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.080 the development, we were able to go out, you know, 236 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:38.679 to his home and he took out the land between 237 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.080 the lakes. I wish we could do that for every 238 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:42.799 story because it's just I mean, selfishly, it's just a fun, 239 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:45.840 such a fun experience to sort of walk in their 240 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.480 shoes and you know, sit shotgun with Martin and just 241 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:51.519 just you know, just spend time with those people. But 242 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:53.720 for the most part, yeah, it was a pretty quick process. 243 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:56.919 You know. We again we have sort of the zoom interview. 244 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:59.600 Then most people we had them flying the Seattle. We'd 245 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:01.519 sit down for a while, talk a little bit about 246 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:03.279 talk a little bit about one of those parts of 247 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.679 their story that they really feel confident and share, you know. 248 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:10.159 And but yeah, I really I think the way I 249 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:13.759 try to approach interviews is I truly am like enthralled, 250 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.279 you know, like I am I am, I am locked 251 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.639 in when I'm listening to these stories. And that was 252 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.159 a lot of fun. But most people, best case scenario, 253 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:22.840 could fly them out here because it just made it 254 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:25.440 really easy for us. But some people we did go 255 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:26.200 out to where they were. 256 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:31.720 That's awesome. Man. I was thinking, and maybe maybe this 257 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.840 is a thing where you know, I haven't been able 258 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:38.120 to watch all of it of course yet, but it 259 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:41.919 would be really cool if you could get Adam's story 260 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:45.279 on one of the episodes. And I'm talking about the 261 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:49.240 Southern Oregon portal one You've heard Adam to say that one, right. 262 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:51.120 I think I've heard that story. Adam has a lot 263 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:54.639 of stories. Yeah, story Adam, Adam Davies. You can only 264 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:56.840 stay away from Monster Requests for so long. I feel 265 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:01.480 like he is due. He'd just sit in the chair. Yeah, yeah, 266 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:02.799 he'd be great, he'd. 267 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:05.679 Be okay, good stuff. It's it's a such a such 268 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.600 a great encounter. In my goodness, it's so so good, 269 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:15.559 it's so Regarding the current season on Monster Quest, is 270 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:19.559 there any chance we can get the old graphics back 271 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.759 with the super you know what I'm saying, like the 272 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:25.840 crazy graphics? Can we get that back? 273 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.720 Yeah? You know, it's funny. We had that conversation with History, 274 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:31.559 and I think they really wanted to sort of feel 275 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:33.399 like there was an evolution. You know, there was like 276 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:35.600 I know within the community, there's like we can't hear 277 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:38.440 the graphic, like it's like some of those really classic 278 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:42.679 elements from from the old series. You know. I think 279 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:45.759 History really wanted to sort of freshen it up. I 280 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.120 would say a little bit, but absolutely I missed those 281 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:52.919 those original graphics and the original It's just there's something 282 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:54.960 you know when you have that, it's like it makes 283 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.200 it's like a it's like a hug, you know, it 284 00:13:58.279 --> 00:13:58.759 really is. 285 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.440 Yeah, And I'm speaking. So I'm speaking because I hear 286 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:05.159 a lot from the community and they're like, they're like 287 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.600 on their knees, they're packed, like, give us history, give 288 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:10.039 us the old graphics back. We want to see those 289 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:13.279 old graphics. And like, who knows, maybe history, maybe not, 290 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:14.240 but hey. 291 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:16.799 I'll make a push if we get more. I'll make 292 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:19.360 a strong push. I promise you, I'll make a strong push. 293 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:21.799 All right. There, I'll give you full credit for for 294 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:23.519 for making it happen. 295 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:27.120 There you go, there you go. I've seen even people 296 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:29.480 on TikTok making videos about I'm like, oh my goodness, 297 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:31.799 this is a pretty big deal. Okay, all right, it's 298 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:32.720 cool though. 299 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:36.440 It's neat to see how like the the original series 300 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:38.559 it was, it meant a lot to people, you know, 301 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.039 I think it was a little before it's time. It 302 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.320 introduced I think a lot of people to the worlds 303 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:47.159 of cryptids and on a global scale, and I think 304 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.919 to some very cool people within the crypti community like 305 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:53.360 Adam Davies and Jeff Meldrum and a lot of people 306 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:55.879 that were that were doing some really really cool work. 307 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.240 So yeah, I totally get. I totally get the the 308 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:04.080 want to have that that original those original graphics back. 309 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:08.240 So that's just me throwing my little two cents in there. 310 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.919 But you know, Jared, can you take us back to 311 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:14.039 I think it's fascinating that you were involved with the 312 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:18.320 first Monster Quest in the Nepal episode. Do you have 313 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:21.559 any memories of of what it was or stories you're 314 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.039 able to share what it was able, what it was 315 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:27.840 like to be able to be, you know, in the 316 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:31.080 filming or involved with that episode, and any cool things 317 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:32.559 you had happened over there. 318 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:35.159 Oh man, I mean how much time do you have, 319 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:40.840 JAREDI that was a that was a lifelong memory. I 320 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:43.120 feel like almost died on that shoot. Like it was. 321 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.639 It was, it was, it was. It was an incredible adventure, harrowing. 322 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:51.480 So yeah, I mean we had you know, I had 323 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:54.120 been brought on to basically do mostly the field production 324 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:57.080 of that of that episode, so I connected with the Adam, 325 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:58.799 you know, and it was like, hey, Adam, you want 326 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:00.480 to go to the Paul. I'm looking of the Yeddi 327 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:02.240 and you know, I think you know, Adam's pretty game 328 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:05.080 for for very basically everything. Oh yeah, and then I 329 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.279 really was into trying to find get in touch with 330 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:10.240 this guy named Ian Redmond who was this He's this 331 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:13.320 great ape expert. He used to work with Diane Fosse 332 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:16.879 before she was murdered, and you know, for and I 333 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:18.919 didn't know where in the world he was, you know, 334 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:22.600 I remember was just like sending random emails and just 335 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.039 constantly trying to get in touch with him. And then 336 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.279 one day he finally emerges and he called me like 337 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:29.679 three in the morning and I saw this this number 338 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:32.080 I didn't know, probably from the UK, and I answered 339 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.000 it really quickly and it was it was Ian. He's like, 340 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.519 I'm sorry, I was I was outstudying cave elephants and 341 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.960 I had like a like a wire tied to my 342 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:43.320 foot so when they left the when they left the cave, 343 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:45.120 it would wake me up. And I was just like, 344 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:47.639 oh my god, this guy's incredible. And I was like, well, Ian, 345 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:50.519 I'm going to Nepal, you know, to look for the Yeddi. 346 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:52.000 You want to come, And he was like, I love to. 347 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.519 And so that was it was really cool to have, 348 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:58.200 you know, Adam obviously who's there. He had such such 349 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:01.639 great knowledge of the Yeti and the history and and 350 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:04.640 Ian came from much of the scientific background, his his 351 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:06.440 histories with great apes, and I just thought that was 352 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:10.400 such a cool a cool team. And then we brought in, 353 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:13.119 you know, a lot of the focus on that was 354 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:15.359 trying to go back to the place where they had 355 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:17.880 found some evidence. And so there was this old climber 356 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:24.759 named Yagihara, really cool guy, and Yaghi had basically was 357 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.599 up in this really remote area of Nepal, very high altitude, 358 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:32.319 and it's seen a print a track, and it you know, 359 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:34.799 sort of was it was. There's some headlines about it, 360 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:36.880 some information, and so I got in touch with him 361 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:38.839 and I said, hey, well you lead us back to 362 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.319 that area where you found that track. Now, Yagihara like 363 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:45.680 he's summited Everest multiple times. I mean, he's a very 364 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:48.599 accomplished climber, which was cool. I mean a lot of 365 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:53.559 the stories of the Yetti are from local folklore and climbers. 366 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:56.279 You know, you have Ryanald Messner and different climbers that 367 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:59.119 have that really access these remote parts of the world. 368 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:01.880 So the other thing we had done, because this was 369 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:05.400 sort of before the age of drones, not that drones. 370 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:07.680 I'm not sure drnes could actually operate up that altitude. 371 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.160 But we had worked with this company either out of 372 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:14.440 New Zealand or Australia, and they had built us this 373 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:19.119 this helium platform which we attached a infrared camera to 374 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:21.920 and then it had a signal down that Adam or 375 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.640 whoever could hold and so at nighttime we could basically 376 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:28.799 lift this thing up anyway we get to Nepal. I 377 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:34.640 mean we were very ambitious. We had we helicoptered out 378 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:37.400 to this remote village drop in. We had thirty six 379 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:40.759 sherpas bringing you know, all of our gear. I guess 380 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:44.480 six day trek deep into the Himalayas. I remember there's 381 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:47.519 this guy and I still have Actually, this is it 382 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:50.400 right this is it right here? So this little piece 383 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:53.400 of twine right here is a very famous piece of twine. 384 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:57.880 This is the twine that he wrote He used to Basically, 385 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.440 he had a giant helium tank and he wrapped it 386 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:03.519 around his forehead like this in flip flops and hiked, 387 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:05.920 you know, and trecked, you know, five days carrying this 388 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:07.720 thing with this piece of twine. So when he was done, 389 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:09.599 I was like, can I have a snip of that twine? 390 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:11.400 I feel like that's like the most epid piece of 391 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:17.640 twine I've ever seen. And so anyway, we went up there. Uh, 392 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:20.559 every day was it was, it was. It was tough going, 393 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:22.920 you know, straight up, straight down, straight up, straight down, 394 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:27.839 met with some remote villagers who had stories along the way, 395 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:30.519 and then we sort of reached this point and sort 396 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.039 of the plan was always to sort of split the teams. So, 397 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:36.240 you know, Adam and Ian were confident that there was 398 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:38.359 you know, there was the area that Yagy had gone to, 399 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:40.920 which was very very high altitude, and then there was 400 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.960 this other area down below that was more along a riverbed, 401 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:46.599