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Speaker 1: Those are two different things. John, what's up? I'm you.

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Speaker 2: Get up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Man a j uh So.

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Speaker 2: I was bored?

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Speaker 4: Uh an Orthodox?

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Speaker 4: So mhm, what are the than you excuses?

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Speaker 4: More of a surface questions in the Orthodox Church?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are schisms from the church, and there

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but schism is a formal declaration where some group ends

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Speaker 6: And today, I mean, can they continue naming themselves as

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Speaker 1: Church or well? I mean, yeah, you can't stop people

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schismatic is going to say they're the true Orthodox.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 4: If you go to a church, how do you know,

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Speaker 1: You find out if they're a canonical Orthodox church or

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if they're non canonical.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so just you do accume me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up?

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Speaker 1: So how do you how do you? You just go

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they're canonical or non canonical. Alpine, what's up? We got

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some more super chats, guys. Even on a sports stream

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you can do so there's superchats. Super chests are down

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through stream labs. They don't take a cut, or you

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can do it natively through YouTube. Adrian says for ten dollars,

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I've been ranting about how I left Pantecostalism. I decided

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Speaker 1: Sorry if I was annoying at times, It's okay. We're

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all annoying. You got to learn to laugh at yourself

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and have fun though Midnight Light. Five dollars, Jay, I'm

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glad you're alive. Many years to you and Jamie explain

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explain the Orthodox perspective on death and christ heroing of Hades. Okay,

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well that's a pretty long, in depth question for just

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my page and you'll see where it's just traditional philosophy

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and metaphysics episodes. If you scroll through over here to

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episode here, and then there's one here John Damascus. This

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with the descent into Hades and all of that, or

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the clips channels also discuss heroing of Hades. Let's see

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what we get h trinity, descent of Christ into Hades,

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jay Dyer right here. So there are plenty of streams

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going into significant depth already answering that question, I'll Pine,

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what's up to the pagan guy in the chat? You're

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Speaker 9: Oh, I love you, Pappy, Jay. I've got two things

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for you today, Yeah, two beautiful, beautiful things. So firstly,

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I'm here to completely prove evolution. So, Bro, it's a

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fact that we actually evolved from slugs fifty trillion years ago, right,

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and I can prove this actually with the scientific documentary

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called Transformers. Okay, So in this beautiful scientific documentary, we

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can see that you have like the autobots, right and Bro,

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originally their cars like through the scientific process of evolution,

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like they say, let's roll out, and then they evolve

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Speaker 1: Time to pack it up. We're done. I'm refuted. Career

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you giving me the strong medicine that I need.

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the middle of the Orthodox Church. But it's actually not

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to separate the week from the chap. All of these

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skittles people that want to go do but stuff in Rome,

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just go do it, man, get out of here. You

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space for Tier A n Z people. So good, Yeah,

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go to Rome, like I want all those people to

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go to Rome. Rome can be a giant gay bathouse.

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these people going to Rome. There we go, I'm over

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here being a dark Enlightenment neo reactionary Curtis Jarvin, but

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only for Roman Catholics accelerating by becoming more and more Skittles.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the same with the Cappadocians in Origin, right,

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was you or somebody said that they compensate for each

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Speaker 1: Actually, Saint Optitus, I think, is the one that condemned

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patriarch of Jerusalem, Santophronius, wrote an entire confession of faith

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that has a four page reputation of the entire system

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Speaker 4: Thank you for reading all these books so I don't have.

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Speaker 1: To Yeah, no, I appreciate your compliment there. And those

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Speaker 11: The it is notifying me that I was invited.

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Speaker 14: Hello, Jay, I made this tax.

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Speaker 12: Account just to call him because I usually hate the

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Speaker 11: But I got two things real quick. I'll to talk

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Speaker 11: But there's a weird Catholic lady.

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Speaker 11: And very quickly she went into.

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Speaker 12: Cognitive dissonance of you know, affirming the papcy and denying

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Speaker 1: It's hard to hear you who you said, Rid Vaughan

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Speaker 11: I was at the bacon and.

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Speaker 1: I heard all that rid Von, But who who debated?

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Speaker 11: Some liberal Muslim scholar who was.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, and so what about papism?

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Speaker 12: Oh so there was a Catholic lady who interjected in

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Speaker 11: You know, live up to what the.

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Speaker 12: Promises are, and she did theticling, oh, I don't have

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we agreed to disagree, and uh. She especially was reading

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Speaker 11: And I kind of shut the whole conversation. Every thing,

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you know, you can't and that is just a you

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group providential things. My current assigned reading from.

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Speaker 12: My priest or CD cases is Towards Transfigured Life by

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Stanley Rockets, and I was amazed at how this book

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from the eighties I'm reading on the flight home.

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Speaker 11: It's talking about a bunch of things that you and

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FDA were talking about in the conference.

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Speaker 12: So just as a contrast, you know, everybody, the Orthodox

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position is consistent across the generations, and it's coherent way

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more than this stupid thing where you put one guy

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on the pest one office on a pedestal, and all

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Speaker 11: Know, statements that come from that. So God bless Jay.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and glad to meet you at the conference

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as well. Appreciate that the book does sound pretty cool.

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Might have to get that Stanley Rockets, gotcha, Josh? What's up?

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Speaker 2: Dog?

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Speaker 1: Lemon Roue says for ten dollars, Jay, Jay, Philio, Queenie Hut,

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Robotistan equip his historian schism, tell me a bedtime story,

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Happy birthday, Little Willow. So proud of you, Christ be

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with us, j Team fourteen dollars. I think the criteria

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for what a cult is confusing, seems more like an

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insult with no regard to the definition. I don't see

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how Joe's Witnesses are technically a cult. Well, I mean,

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Joe's witnesses make you shun your family members that aren't

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Joe's witnesses. They have absurd, incoherent, arbitrary standards for no

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blood transfusions, can't celebrate birthdays. I mean, they're one h

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percent of cult. What's up, man, Gosh, yeah, Hey, what's up?

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What's on your mind?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 7: So, yeah, you're talking about a lot of stuff that's

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been on my mind. It's pretty providential. Maybe so I'm

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in the Antiochian Archdiocese, and I try to pay attention

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to what's cool on politically of stuff.

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Speaker 4: And are you familiar with Word magazine?

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back in two thousand and seven and eight, I thought

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it was it was I remember that they actually had

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some good articles back then, but I've not kept up

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with him since then.

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Speaker 7: Gotcha, gosh, it's cool with you know, it's our archdiocese newsletters,

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you know, magazine.

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Speaker 4: We get it so often.

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Speaker 7: But just kind of going along with the political environment

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right now. I noticed a couple of things that in

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isolation I would shrug off, but I found, you know,

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maybe a quirte an eyebrow in combination. So the first

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one was an address where they were, you know, praising

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some commi Anglicans work in South Africa, you know, just

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charitable or whatever, but kind of the character you probably

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wouldn't want to praise.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And then in that same one, they were addressing the

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concerns about the quote unquote quality of category human they're

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bringing in.

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Speaker 4: And my mind to me is like, do you mean

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right leaning people? You know, your church, right that's.

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Speaker 11: You know, and we're not go arch but we're not

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ro Corps either.

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Speaker 7: You know, we're in a diocese where can kind of

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swing either way, and I'm just wondering, Uh, you know

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what perspective you have on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I mean there's you know, Antiochi in

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arch diocese has problems as well. There's a humanism being

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pushed there. For sure. You're going to have these feminists

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skittle stuff being pushed everywhere. So everybody just needs to

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prepare and think about there's no perfect jurisdiction. I mean

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there's ro Corps had an Antifa deacon forever. I don't know,

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he probably still is one, Like when is when are

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they going to get rid of this guy?

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Speaker 15: Right?

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Speaker 1: So you're not going to find perfection in the jurisdictions.

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And unfortunately, given all the stuff that we're seeing geopolitically

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with you Knowed Wilson, people saying they want to come

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after the Orthodox Church, the EP's out here saying let's go,

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let's unite with let's do bus stuff with Rome. I mean,

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it's just getting bad, so prepare for it to get

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even worse. Now, in the long run, we don't have

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to worry about it because that's gonna be good because

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all of these phonies are just gonna go do their thing, good, fine, go,

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and people don't understand it's it's ultimately providentially a separating

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a week from Chef. It's gonna be tough, like it.

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It's gonna be difficult. There's gonna be a lot of challenges.

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But what do we just see with this finish ep

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jurisdiction statement, Just like we've been saying, the real reason

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for the acumenis stuff and time to go back to

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Rome and time to do this, and that it's gonna

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immediately be as soon as that gets pushed and it's oh,

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we have to open up the church to be a

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safe space. So they're gonna immediately it's gonna be very clear.

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Like what I'm saying is you're not going to get tricked,

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You're not going to be a bait and switch. It's

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going to be very clear that like, hey, my priest

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is talking about uniting with Rome and then suddenly he's

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going to do a gay wedding, Like it's going to

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be open like the Oca church here communes a Skittles

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couple openly, So you're not going to have a hard time.

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Like I don't know what's going on?

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Speaker 4: What do I do?

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Speaker 1: Like they're going to be very open about it. It's

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gonna be very easy for you to see Richie, what's up, Richie,

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rich what's up?

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Speaker 11: Dog?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 16: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 16: Well, first off, I want to say I'm a kind

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of cuma right now. You're kind of one of the

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aspirations for me to look into the church and whatnot,

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go into a Greek Orthodox parish had a little bit

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of a question though, in terms of like schooling, do

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you think that we should be introducing kind of some

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of these like Christian principles into school there?

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Speaker 4: Kind of what's view on that.

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Speaker 1: Into schooling? I mean, yeah, your kids need to be

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homeschool what do you mean?

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Speaker 17: Okay, So like where I'm at, you know, it's you know,

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I'm in Los Angeles, so homeschooling is pretty much unheard of.

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Do you think, you know, kind of separating them children

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from their peers is like would be ultimately beneficial or

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kind of?

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Speaker 18: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because Bro, your state is already like coming to

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clip off gender stuff. Bro, Halo, what's up?

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Speaker 11: J team?

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Speaker 1: You mind think it's arbitrary from their worldview, but they

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would ground those things in the Bible. I'm not saying

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they would get it right. Do you have objections to

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Catholic beliefs? Are they a cult? No, The Job's Witnesses

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do not ground their beliefs in the Bible. They have

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a fake, made up New World Translation that they use.

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It is not the Bible. So again, you need to

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educate yourself more on the specifics of the Joe's Witnesses

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to understand that they have a made up Bible that

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changes things like John one. Every copy of John one

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prior to the New World Translation says in the beginning,

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was the word the words with God. The word was God.

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The Joe's Witnesses fake Bible says in the beginning, was

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the word the word was a God. So no, the

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Joe's Witnesses are absolutely occult. In fact, they're even used

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by the CIA as a form of soft power and

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espionage in other countries. What's up, Uh, Halo can't connect,

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So sorry, dude, josh what's up, Joshua? What's up? Joshua Christensen?

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Are you there? Do you want to talk?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Turn your mic on, guys, you want to come on underwater?

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What's up? Yeah? A lot of churches of homeschooling groups too,

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by the way, which means that your kids can be

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around other kids.

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Speaker 4: Hello, yeah, yeah, I've.

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Speaker 19: So I have like this friend right who's like completely

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new to like Christianity, and right now I'm like trying

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to get her so far, I'm telling her to just

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read the Bible and watch your videos in terms of

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educating herself. But I'm wondering what advice you would give

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her if you're in my position, because she's like completely now.

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Like usually people are like who are listening to you

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or like some sort of convert of like Catholic Protestant,

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so they have like a pretty long history of reading

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the Bible and trying and understand Christianity at least that's

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what the vibe and getting off.

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Speaker 4: Of your or that's usually what the case is. Is

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the video paused? Why is my thing frozen?

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Speaker 1: What's your question?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Well, what exactly would you recommend for someone who's

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like just completely like like straighten it like fresh pizza

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paper or something.

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Speaker 1: I would say, watch something like the Icon documentary, which

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is the best for a a new convert, but also

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that would be better for for ladies. It's not it's

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it's not optatus. It's the other bishop that has an

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O name. Let's try it this way. I always go,

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always get this guy mixed up with Optatus. Origin was

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condemned in his days. People are asking me, and this

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is a question. We've covered this like a million times.

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Speaker 11: M h.

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Speaker 1: H uh, Well I didn't know that Demetrius of Alexandria

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condemned Origin. But there's another. There's another saint. Let's see

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what saint condemned origin in his Methodius. Sorry, Saint Methodius

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condemned Origin in his day. I think that's right. K No,

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that's not right. There is one I just can't always

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get that. I think that it's somebody in the chat

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will remember because we've we've done this multiple times on

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the on the stream. I think it's Methodius. If anybody

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can remember this, I've saved it. I just don't remember.

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I always get this saint mixed up with Optimus, but

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it might be Methodius. Uh, FDA do you recall? What

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do you what's on your mind? FDA? You want to

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I mute?

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Speaker 4: Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Did you want to say something?

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Speaker 11: I can't remember?

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Speaker 4: I think Atius, but I don't have access to.

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Speaker 2: Pull it up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me try it different. Let me try this.

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Speaker 4: What do you think it is? Why do people want

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to salvage origin so much?

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Speaker 1: They are there's a push for that because he's he

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fits with globalization. What do you mean originism fits with

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globalization because he teaches neoplatonism and perennialism. So there's an

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establishment like Fordham pushes. Like Fordham wrote a gigantic few

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years ago, like thousand page like Rehabilitation of Origin.

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Speaker 4: There's a theology professor at the college I work out.

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He loves, like we're getting into it about Origin. He

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was like, he was always willing to be corrected. But

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I found recently some commentary on Origin that just to

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the opposite that he was actually because what do we

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always say, harrisy isn't getting something theologically wrong. It's a persistence,

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a stubborn persistence and air due to pride.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, exactly. That's why there's nothing wrong with later

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condemnations because and by the way, it is Saint Methodius

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of Olympus. That's why I was getting that mixed up

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with Saint Optitus of Malivas. It's Saint Methodius of Olympus

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who write a treatise on the Resurrection condemning the heterodox

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views of origin anyway. But you're yeah, that's that's what

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it is, Sieged. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 11: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Hey, yeah, I'm a catechumen in the Orthodox Church. But

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I actually had a geopolitical question. I just finished reading

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Black Gold Spies and there was a guy at my

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previous church who worked for Blackwater, and at the end

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of the book he mentions that the CIA utilizes Blackwater,

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and I was wondering if you had any like insight

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into that.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that was pretty well known.

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Speaker 18: Uh.

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Speaker 1: That came out, you know during back in the time

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of like Desert Storm and all that, you know, the

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war in Iraq. That was all a lot of talking points.

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Even Alex Jones was covering that back in the in

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the two thousands. So yeah, I don't. I don't think

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there's I mean, that's it's pretty uncontroversial.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, glad you read that book. What'd you

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think of it?

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Speaker 8: I thought it was really eye opening, fascinating.

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Speaker 18: There are so many names that I didn't I've never

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heard of, and I've been trying to explain some of

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this stuff to some of my like Zionist family members,

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Like the Middle East isn't what you like are told

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it is, and it's all set up by these like

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these like agencies are these.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, set up by the power blocks. It's carved

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up you know, psychs, pico, et cetera.

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Speaker 18: And what's what's hard for me to understand is like

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that Philby who.

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Speaker 1: Converted to.

474
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Speaker 10: Islam, but did he actually or was it just like

475
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a like I find that stuff interesting.

476
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well John Brennan is supposedly assuni right, he's

477
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,839
a Marxist. Soon they fake it.

478
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 18: It's crazy to me that probably probably to go that

479
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,519
far for your Like, I just don't know what's motivating them, Like,

480
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I just I can't figure out why they would be.

481
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 10: So willing to believe like a religion they don't agree with.

482
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you listen to the Andrew Bustamante interviews,

483
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:11,839
like he's very candid, he's like, I mean, see recruits psychopaths,

484
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:15,039
so like, they don't they don't have any conscience about lying.

485
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,240
So it's like, and I don't have a problem lying.

486
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:20,680
I mean you're basically you know, you're an actor, you're

487
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,839
pretending to be something you're not. So that's you know.

488
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, And this guy, this guy at my church, he's like,

489
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or used to be at my church.

490
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Speaker 18: He was a mercenary for the US government.

491
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,039
Speaker 10: Through Blackwater Open and he like would openly tell us

492
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and circles this, but then he would he also worked

493
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:42,279
in oil, and I was like, after I read that, I.

494
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Speaker 18: Was like, oh, dude, I wish I could go talk

495
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,640
to this guy and ask him more questions what he knows.

496
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's he's crazy though, Like he's like, yeah, well,

497
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:54,759
maybe it'd be better to not ask him a bunch

498
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:57,839
of those questions. But yeah, I appreciate that. I mean, yeah,

499
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,119
use use your discernment when it comes to you know,

500
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,799
who's we're talking to and who's not. But j Team

501
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:08,599
says again for fourteen, the criteria for what you're calling

502
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,519
occult is confusing. It seems like an insult.

503
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:11,319
Speaker 11: No.

504
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Speaker 1: In the case of Joe's witnesses, I mean, one of

505
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,240
my best friends grew up in it and his dad

506
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left and it was a gigantic national news story. He

507
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,119
was on OPRAH. I mean, I know all about it,

508
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:24,839
So I'm not speaking from a lack of wisdom. And

509
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inside about Joe's Witnesses. I've debated Joe's Witnesses. I'm very

510
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familiar with it, and I'm not calling it a cult.

511
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Willy nilly. Now, you actually do have a good point

512
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,519
here that, well, what you think is a cult is

513
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going to be based on your paradigm and your worldview.

514
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,119
That's correct, And because I think orthox Christianity is true, Yes,

515
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,880
I'm going to say that Roman Catholisis can be cult like,

516
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,319
Protestantism could be conceivably cult like. But even within I mean,

517
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:57,599
you could have a crazy monastery in the Orthodox world

518
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,079
that is cult like. That's happened before. Sure, So there's

519
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,960
not a self evident definition of what is a quote

520
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cult because there's some flexibility in the the specifications are

521
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,240
somewhat fuzzy. So I actually agree with you on that point.

522
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But I am specifically saying, from the Orthodox paradigm and

523
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from my worldview, Joe's Witnesses are a cult, not just

524
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because the religious beliefs and the practices and the control

525
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,799
that they have or their lives their parishioners, but also

526
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,960
from the sense of being used as a form of

527
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:30,160
soft power in other countries for espionage and that's admitted

528
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,839
as a fact. So all of those things absolutely make

529
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:37,160
it a cult. Giovanni Garcia five dollars. Satan after Christ

530
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,640
redeemed us is like the the the scammer meme, do

531
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:49,599
not redeem sad gnome Goblin gifted memberships. Thanks man, appreciate that.

532
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:56,160
Penniwits ten dollars. I'm playing Devil's advocate for the Protestant mind.

533
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:03,640
What would orthodoxally provide that Protestantism does not in terms

534
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,559
of salvation? Could you elucidate that in terms of layman's terms?

535
00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:12,799
What about doing good works? I mean, I think you

536
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:15,240
could list all kinds of things that Orthodoxy provides or

537
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:21,119
Protestism doesn't. So yeah, I mean deeds would be I mean,

538
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,880
orthodox doesn't provide the deeds, but it has the requirement

539
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,880
that you demonstrate that you have faith by your works.

540
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But also again, Orthodox ecclesiology teaches that we have the

541
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sacraments and the grace necessary for salvation, et cetera, and

542
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we do not believe that the other groups, cults and

543
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sects possess that grace. Now that doesn't mean they have

544
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:48,319
no grace, but they don't have the sacramental grace and

545
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,720
the aid and the medicine of immortality that we do.

546
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,839
So you have to come into the arc, which is

547
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the church. And this goes back to unashamed Apologetics's question.

548
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:04,400
He says, for ten dollars, you misunderstood my question. Jay,

549
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,440
I didn't ask you what Orthodoxy claims. Catholics also claim

550
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,160
sacraments in succession. I asked what is unique to Orthodoxy

551
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,200
that I objectively lose by remaining Protestant. Yeah, but you

552
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:22,319
can't disassociate the paradigm and the claims. So the fact

553
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,039
that Roman Catholcs claim that has nothing to do with

554
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,440
whether or not Orthodoxy possesses that. So this is a

555
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,960
common mistake that people make when it comes to this question,

556
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especially a lot of Protestants. Right they'll say stuff like, well,

557
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,559
how do I know that your church is the one

558
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:41,240
that's true? Because Roman Catholics make the same claims. Every

559
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:44,559
cult and sect pretty much claims it is true. That's

560
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,519
irrelevant to which one is true. You see, so you're

561
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go ahead.

562
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Speaker 4: That's so confused they do. Yeah, women, It reminds me

563
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of when Socrates says, I'm not concerned with doaks I believe,

564
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but at the stema So of course, it's the very

565
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,119
nature of belief that what you believe is true. Right,

566
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,759
So it's stupid to even state that that, well, this

567
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person believes their position is true.

568
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Speaker 1: Exactly.

569
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Speaker 20: There's not a.

570
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Speaker 4: Person out there that believes that beliefs are false truly.

571
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a it's an irrelevant statement.

572
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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a stupid thing to say. So the

573
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question is is it and what's the justification for that?

574
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Protestantism, even on its own grounds, doesn't possess efficacious sacraments, right,

575
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I mean most Protestantism, and I assume you're in some

576
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,799
sort of a you know, mainline kind of Protestant church,

577
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they don't believe that they're sacraments possess the grace that

578
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the sacrament signifies. The sacraments quote unquote are symbols for

579
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,680
most Protestants. So to answer your question specifically, if Jesus

580
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,559
says to et my flesh and drink my blood and

581
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,640
he means more than symbol, well there's your answer right there.

582
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:04,480
Your church doesn't have the flesh.

583
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: And the blood and it doesn't produce saints. Yeah, exactly,

584
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Like look what Protestant is you know, there might be

585
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like genuinely like nice people. And I don't want to

586
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:22,599
use the word nice, but generally good people, not saints.

587
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And that's why I always encourage people. Don't when you're

588
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:30,599
studying Orthodoxy, don't just study the theology, read the lives

589
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,639
of the saints, and you'll start to realize there's something

590
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special and unique about Orthodoxy and they're not like Roman

591
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Catholic saints. That's what's really interesting. And if you want that,

592
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if you see how amazing that actually is, well, only

593
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Orthodoxy has that.

594
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a question of claims, it's a question

595
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of who's right and who's wrong. Pufferfish says, when are

596
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,800
you going to be the behemoth borrow next? I don't

597
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,719
have any have no idea. I don't think Eric wants

598
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,079
to ever do it. Debate. I have no idea, but

599
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,639
I doubt it. Vincent five dollars Jay, I'm curious about

600
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,239
Orthodox theology. I would like to attend a Sunday liturgy.

601
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,039
What type of Orthodox would you recommend? I mean, I

602
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:21,239
would say probably Russian Orthodox Church, Serving Orthodox Church, Romanian

603
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:27,320
Antiochian in that order. Maybe I don't know. Giovanni five

604
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,280
dollars Jay, Just curious, do you disagree with all evolutionary

605
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,119
theory pretty much. I mean, I don't have a problem

606
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:40,280
with natural selection or you know, micro evolution, so to speak.

607
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,679
But I don't believe that there's a common ancestor, or

608
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,960
that one species transmutes into another, that bear start bear,

609
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,639
DNA starts printing whale code. I don't believe any of

610
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that true. And again, I'm happy to hear a convincing argument.

611
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,599
I've been in academia and listen to professors refuting my

612
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:08,239
worldview supposedly since I was nineteen, and they've never presented

613
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to me a convincing argument. Now, I'm not being Matt dillahunty.

614
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,639
I'm not saying it's false because no one has presented

615
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an argument. I'm saying that's that's just a biographical detail.

616
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So I'm saying that because any atheist or scienceyientism man

617
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,880
is welcome to call in. We had a few already today.

618
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,719
They didn't do very well, as you can see, Schmieven,

619
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,559
what's up that one guy that called in with the

620
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:38,679
skittle's voice. All he wanted to do was argue about Now, father,

621
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,480
he gonna ask you this question because we had an

622
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,239
atheist in here before you got here. Did you hear

623
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,920
him this this? Okay, let's see if you agree with this.

624
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,599
I said no, no, no, let me ask you qu

625
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,679
so you're the professor. Let's get the professor's take on it.

626
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,360
And Professor Fda will disagree with me if I'm wrong,

627
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,000
So he might actually back up the Sotheist. We'll see

628
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,360
if I said that all arguments are if I said not,

629
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,079
all claims are contradictions. In other words, you might have

630
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:11,719
an argument that's an assertion and it's without evidence, but

631
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,920
that doesn't make it a contradiction. So in other words,

632
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,559
he was saying, you think that that you know, evolutionary

633
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:23,280
biology and it's its theory of origins is false because

634
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it is incoherent. And I said yes, And he says,

635
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,679
so what contradiction does that entail? And I said, it

636
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,719
doesn't entail a contradiction. I think it's an incoherent argument.

637
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,320
It just is a meaningless type of statement. It's an assertion.

638
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,639
And he said, well, no, it must be a contradiction.

639
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,000
Show the contradiction. I said, no, No, something can be

640
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:45,159
an assertion without evidence and has nothing to do with contradictions.

641
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:45,960
It's just an assertion.

642
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: Yes, So I've noticed this before too, that people think

643
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,360
that the only way something can be wrong is if

644
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,480
it generates a contradiction.

645
00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Exactly, That's what he was arguing.

646
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,599
Speaker 4: Clearly that can't be the case. I mean, think about

647
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,039
historical or empirical events right right where you state something

648
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:14,719
false about it's false, it doesn't mean there's a contradiction.

649
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,119
Speaker 1: And what you said, that's exactly what I was trying

650
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:19,760
to convey to him and get that.

651
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 4: So you could be factually So let's think about the ways,

652
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:28,320
all the different ways that you could be incorrect. You

653
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,440
could be systemically incorrect in the sense of, like you said,

654
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:38,599
that's just an incoherent and by incoherent, I don't mean

655
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:40,119
it generates contradictions.

656
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: But no, like if I said, atheism is true because

657
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,320
of feeble fobble z ebel double yeah.

658
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,559
Speaker 4: Or you just have a bunch of beliefs that are

659
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,920
not connected in any way logically or something like that.

660
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,159
So it's just kind of incoherent. It's just a kind

661
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:58,559
of a story that could be incorrect. Number two, Something

662
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:02,039
could be factually incorrect, mm hmm. Something could be logically

663
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:06,960
incorrect that it generates a contradiction. Something could be semantically incorrect,

664
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,840
it's not a meaningful statement, but not a contradiction, but

665
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,199
not a contradiction. So it is this weird thing. We've

666
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,599
seen this on the discord too, where people are like, like,

667
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,840
show how it's a contradiction.

668
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:21,519
Speaker 1: That's what it was. That's what it was.

669
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's bizarre. I'm trying to think of other ways.

670
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So it was about four or five.

671
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: Well, what if I said, what if I said, look,

672
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,159
evolution is just true because I had a dream that

673
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:39,280
it's true. Like, that's an assertion. It's not a good justification,

674
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,559
it's it's a it's a bad line of reasoning, but

675
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:45,760
it doesn't involve a contradiction, right exactly.

676
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Speaker 21: Or for example, let's say you make about like like

677
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you said, a bad argument or something that's invalid or.

678
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 4: I'm sure it might be possible. Then take that out

679
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,480
at kind of a higher level and then like generate

680
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a contradiction. But why is just say it's wrong because

681
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,480
it's a bad argument. Let's think about this too. Informal

682
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fallacies are.

683
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Speaker 1: Not contradictory, not all exactly. There's plenty of ways to

684
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be wrong without it being just a contradiction.

685
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Speaker 4: You can have it Spurgie, it was.

686
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Speaker 1: John Adams, what's up?

687
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 11: Serious?

688
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Speaker 22: The speaking of the contradiction wouldn't punctuated equilibrium contradict previous darwinisms.

689
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Speaker 1: It would, but they would just say that, well, our

690
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theories are theories, and the strength of it is that

691
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:58,840
it can be revised and updated with new information, and

692
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,639
so that's why we don't believe dogma like you theists.

693
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Speaker 22: That would be that would be normal if it wasn't

694
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taught in school.

695
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Speaker 1: As fact exactly.

696
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Speaker 4: So it's like that.

697
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Speaker 22: That that goofball who called in earlier. I thought, I

698
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,800
mean I heard, I heard when he called in, and.

699
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,559
Speaker 4: He was he's being a jerk.

700
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Speaker 22: He thought he was really smart.

701
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Speaker 1: Can you believe that an atheist that thinks that they're

702
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:34,320
really smart and they're making basic mistakes? Okay, it's hard

703
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:40,800
to believe, but it does occur, Uh, Lucas, what's up?

704
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:45,119
By the way, I thought this was funny. This was

705
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,320
something that h Browsei shared. I guarantee you the guy

706
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,239
that sent this to I'm assuming it was sent to

707
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,519
this orthodox girl, Catherine, and she was laughing because this

708
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:58,519
guy was being a sad sump, like total beta and

709
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,719
like no replies, and he just keeps saying please madam, Madam, madam,

710
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,079
let's get married. I bet you he thinks I'm mean.

711
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,159
I'll bet you. I guarantee you that guy does not

712
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,639
like me. What's up, Luca?

713
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,559
Speaker 4: Hey, Tay can hear me?

714
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 23: We chatted once before about the Trinity. I asked you

715
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,400
a question, and well, I appreciate you taking the time.

716
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,079
I'm coming from a Protestant background and I've been hearing

717
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,360
a lot about what you've been saying about Orthodoxy lately,

718
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:29,639
and it's got me wrestling with some ideas. And I

719
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,320
realized I don't know what I don't know yet, and

720
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:36,039
these are some just raw questions that I have in

721
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:38,840
my head that I'm trying to wrap my mind around.

722
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: And so I'm not here for a debate, but I

723
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,559
was hoping I could ask you just two questions. That's okay, sure.

724
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:47,559
Speaker 23: So my first question would be I've heard you talk

725
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,840
about the candidacity of scripture a lot and how that's

726
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:55,480
a very defeating argument for Protestantism. But just to understand

727
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,280
what you know about Protestantism, not that I know anymore,

728
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,920
I really don't, but just to understand where you're coming from.

729
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,920
What would you if you were to steal man, the

730
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,239
best Protestant argument towards the kind oficity of scripture?

731
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,159
Speaker 4: What would you say that is?

732
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe something like because there was a

733
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:22,679
historical flexibility with what was considered canon in different sensors

734
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,880
of the church. Maybe if somebody argued something like, well,

735
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,239
why couldn't it be the Protestant canon? I don't know,

736
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,400
maybe something like that, but I'm just kind of thinking

737
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,119
up the top of my head.

738
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Speaker 23: And as a follow up to that, is there an

739
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,400
And I don't know very much about this is just

740
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,440
what I've heard from other people saying that during the

741
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:45,440
times of the ecumenical councils, they put some books in

742
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,000
the Bible and then they took some out and then

743
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,599
they put them making again something.

744
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: Along those No, that's not true. I've never heard anything

745
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:50,679
like that.

746
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,199
Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha.

747
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: That's good to know. And I mean, no ecumenical counsel

748
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,199
did that. I mean there were times when different like

749
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:03,519
canonical lists in church law differed from this or that

750
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:07,559
church father's list. But that's not an acumenical council sticking

751
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:09,400
in and taking out books. That never happened.

752
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: Okay, that's good to know.

753
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:11,559
Speaker 11: Thank you.

754
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:15,199
Speaker 23: I appreciate the correction there and one last question, and

755
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,199
I may be misrepresenting you here, so please correct me

756
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,199
if I'm wrong, because I really don't want to do that.

757
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,159
Speaker 4: But far, I've heard you say that.

758
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 23: In Paul's epistle to Timothy, he refers to the things

759
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you've heard me say in the presence of many witnesses

760
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,199
right from his three year ministry ephesis. I've heard you say,

761
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,599
and again, correct me if I'm wrong that certain traditions

762
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,320
came from that, like apostolic succession and whatnot.

763
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:44,079
Speaker 1: Right, No, no, no, that's not what I said. Okay, No,

764
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,199
I said that. That text just simply demonstrates that Paul

765
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:54,280
is telling Timothy to pass on all of the things

766
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,199
that Paul taught him for three years, day and night

767
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,920
in ephesis. I'm not saying saying that that necessarily included

768
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,440
specifically some oral tradition of appoltic succession, because I think

769
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,079
the two letters to Timothy explicitly teach in a written

770
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:11,519
form apostolic succession.

771
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:16,039
Speaker 4: Right, and okay, I understand.

772
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:19,079
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time, Jay, I know that's okay. Did

773
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,000
you I mean you feel free to ask anymore or

774
00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:26,679
whatever you want? You're not you have good vibes. Man,

775
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:28,920
I appreciate it.

776
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,639
Speaker 23: I'm honestly, yeah, I can tell I feel like I'm like,

777
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,880
I'm struggling with some of these questions, and I'm trying

778
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,400
to go to people to ask these questions, to as

779
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,800
the church that I go to and some other Protestant

780
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,239
pastors and more and more I see the reasoning behind Orthodoxy,

781
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,639
not Catholicism, because man, that's that's just that's just weird.

782
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: But you know, and I don't have a lot of

783
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,400
people that I can go to when it.

784
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,559
Speaker 1: Comes to Orthodoxy, and you're the one of the few

785
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:56,239
I know. Well, feel free to ask whatever.

786
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 8: Man, thank you for now.

787
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 23: I really don't have much I got to and just

788
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,280
a little more research.

789
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: But I hope you could welcome me sometime in the future.

790
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime. I mean, we do this. We do this

791
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,559
multiple times a week, so yeah, feel free to call

792
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:17,840
in whenever. Schmieven guys would hit like and shared like

793
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,719
and shared, hit like and share, share from Sonny and

794
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,599
share if you believe in life after love, I can

795
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:29,440
hear something aside me say, I really don't think you're

796
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,039
strong and uh, hit like and share a C H

797
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:38,079
E R. Gypsy stamps and thieves in the audience if

798
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,199
you wouldn't like and share, and I got a lot

799
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,960
of things I want to talk about. I'm having fun.

800
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,199
Today has actually been really good. This is like classic

801
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,000
you know when we had a lot of the atheists

802
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:51,079
calling in. This is like a classic day. And if

803
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,719
you didn't see the refute that the response to Professor Dave,

804
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,239
I didn't realize. Professor Dave futured me and Jim Bob

805
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,119
on his channel. We gave it about five minutes and

806
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,679
Professor Dave was even worse than I expected. I mean,

807
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:05,360
like today's atheists are actually making They're making like JF

808
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:08,159
look like a king, you know what I mean. This

809
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:09,480
isn't a buzz up.

810
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 6: But because there is a computer on another planet, I

811
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:17,360
would rather be debating JF than like Professor Griff or

812
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,639
whatever his name was, Like Professor Dave was was just

813
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,960
garbage tier dude.

814
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: All he was doing was just calling everybody retards and

815
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,480
insulting people, no actual arguments. His only argument was, look,

816
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:32,000
it's just what it is. There's no meaning to words,

817
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:34,920
or to life, or to purpose or to biology. It

818
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,079
just is and it does what it does. There's no

819
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,760
meaning to it has no coherence, t los it just

820
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:44,400
is it just does that and literally just calling us

821
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,719
retards for like five minutes.

822
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: That was it.

823
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:51,199
Speaker 1: Like, I guess if you're a reddit blasted mind reddit

824
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,320
mind blasted person like you would find that convincing. But

825
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,000
anybody with I guess iq over subshera Africa would probably

826
00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:03,199
not find makes SMI even, what's up, man, I'm you.

827
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,599
Speaker 4: Hey, I was down there. I was actually down there

828
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:08,599
at the conference.

829
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: In Florida, which was great, thank you. Yeah, we had

830
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,039
a lot of we had a lot of fun.

831
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm reading the whim Hoff, the legendary whim

832
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,320
Hoff book.

833
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: Are you the guy that was, like the one guy

834
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,920
that actually is reading it? Yes? Yeah, I remember we.

835
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: Had the awkward fist bump.

836
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: You might remember that. I remember that bumped me and

837
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,880
I tried to shake and I wrapped my hand now

838
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,000
and then you you did a limp wristed, weird skittles

839
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:33,920
thing and not I'm joking that and that's just joke.

840
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,280
Go ahead.

841
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: Uh So in reading that book, uh, he talks about

842
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,480
Pope Leo the thirteenth in cyclicals and uh he was

843
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:46,800
talking about one liver toss that I want to read

844
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,400
but I wanted to ask, is there any any red

845
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:51,039
flags that.

846
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: I should look out for in those things? Because I

847
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,800
really kind of want to read them. They sound based,

848
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,920
and I don't know. I've read all of Leo's and cyclicals.

849
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,280
It's a giant seven page book from Tan Books. I

850
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,000
read it all. I mean, there's this, you know, standard

851
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:06,840
papal stuff in there. But no, actually, you know, anybody

852
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,440
in our sphere who's grounded in Orthodoxy, it would be

853
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,519
very useful to be aware of those things. So no,

854
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:16,239
you're you're not gonna you're not going to like get

855
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,360
mind mind washed and mind controlled into becoming a papist

856
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,039
by reading Leos and cyclicles. In fact, Edward Denny's book

857
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:27,760
is a great reputation of Santist good medium in the

858
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,679
first few chapters and then also the I think the

859
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,639
Encyclical of the Eastern Patriarchs, if I recall, is also

860
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,960
maybe a response to Leo the thirteenths and cyclicals, but

861
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,199
it's great. The reason it's good to read those is

862
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,239
because particularly, uh, you know, he's got good statements against

863
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:53,159
like Masons and Freemasonry. Okay, well, actually, I would let

864
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:55,400
me put this way, if I was going to read

865
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:57,280
unless you just really want to read a bunch of

866
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,480
lee with thirteens and cycle rules, which would be really boring.

867
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:04,280
Just get the Tan Books Book sixteen Papal Documents because

868
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,519
that actually has I think his in cyclical against Freemasonry

869
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:10,119
in it, and really that's the one that's the most relevant.

870
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:12,840
But I mean libert is that Libertos praised on TC

871
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,599
most as we were talking about. I think, so, yeah,

872
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,840
that's it. I remember that one. I mean, you can

873
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,519
read what you want to. A lot of them are

874
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:20,280
going to be kind of boring.

875
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just interested in that and in the political

876
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:27,639
stuff mostly trying.

877
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,639
Speaker 1: To oh yeah, well if you're interested in that. Yeah,

878
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,719
if you are, that's right, If you're interested in that

879
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,199
type of stuff, then you probably would want to read that.

880
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:41,639
That's correct, Okay. And yeah that one is on human liberty. Yeah,

881
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,719
I remember that, appreciate it absolutely.

882
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,039
Speaker 14: Uh.

883
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:58,599
Speaker 1: Also, I was remembering the Book of Wisdom and uh,

884
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,800
the Look of Wisdom has a great statement about Sotheists. Yes,

885
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,360
you're hear Mar. Does you know the Book of Wisdom

886
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:14,920
actually covers the Sotheists. It's Wisdom too, And I actually

887
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:20,039
covered this in my book as Stir CALLI with three

888
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,079
about Planet of the Apes. So I was watching Planet

889
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:27,599
of the Apes, and I was thinking about how much

890
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:31,280
of a like Darwinian silly kind of narrative it was.

891
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,360
But this is talking about the Sotheists and wisdom. It

892
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,960
says they reason unsoundly. Oh wait a minute, So you

893
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:42,079
mean that atheism is irrational. You mean the Bible is

894
00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:46,760
actually saying atheism is irrational. That means it's indefensible. That

895
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,079
means you can do apologetics. They say to themselves, life

896
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:54,880
is short. There's no remedy. Man comes to an end.

897
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:58,920
No one is coming back from the dad. We are

898
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,320
all born by Cham's exactly what you heard.

899
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 20: Professor Dave. Oh my gosh, Professor Dave. He says we're

900
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,920
all meaningless chance beings. But also listen to Professor Dave's

901
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,880
apologetics against the theists. Listen to his meaningful words about

902
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,079
how ways have no meaning.

903
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: That's exactly what he said. Hereafter we will be as

904
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,960
if we have never been. We are just breath and

905
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:29,039
nostrils and smoke. Reason is a spark of the heart.

906
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:36,199
That's it. This is the naturalist, atheist materialists, the Gaitheists.

907
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:42,840
Our spirit will dissolve our name will be forgotten. No

908
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,360
one will remember us. So here's the atheist nihilist in

909
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,719
the Book of Wisdom right here. Our life is a shadow. Therefore,

910
00:52:53,679 --> 00:53:00,760
let us be skittles gooners. It's the next verse. Let

911
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,880
us touch bots and put peepe's and poopoos because nothing matters.

912
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,159
Speaker 11: Nothing else matters.

913
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,039
Speaker 1: All you metallica goobers in the chat, all you people

914
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:18,239
who like them, stupid ass metal bands, nothing ghosts. I

915
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,599
used to make fun of my metal head body because

916
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:26,199
of all these try hard metal metal dudes. He was like, man,

917
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,199
I fucking love metal. It's so edgy. I'm like, metal

918
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,559
is try hard, dude, it's so I mean, I like

919
00:53:33,639 --> 00:53:35,559
some of the riffs. I like a few things. I

920
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,880
like Devin Townsend's music. Okay, but just metal is all

921
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,280
try hard dude. To use the terminology of the skaters,

922
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,960
it's a bunch of posers. We're all just dusting to win.

923
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:53,159
Speaker 24: Man, Oh your is dusting in the wind.

924
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,559
Speaker 1: Anyway. Right where are we at? In super chats, there's

925
00:54:01,639 --> 00:54:04,280
there's a lot like get some snaggle beasts and Jay,

926
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:11,360
thank you for letting me call in. Transfigured life is

927
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,480
an ethical treatise that describes the worldly philosophy, and it

928
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:19,519
says that apapatic theology shows the fullness of Orthodox ethics. Interesting,

929
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,559
so it sounds like Transfigured Life is a good book

930
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:30,360
to get. Thank you. Snagglebast Jay Team says again about

931
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,239
the show's witnesses, do you think that if you're raised

932
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,239
Joe's witness, you will have a harder time grasping at

933
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,880
the trinity? Yes? Actually I do think that because and

934
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,639
we said this a couple of streams back, because we

935
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,000
were talking about Kurt Metzger, the comedian, you know, when

936
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:46,199
we had our podcast and when we had our conversations,

937
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:49,679
you know, the trinity of the Christ came up. And

938
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,239
because Kurt was raised Joe's witness, I think he just

939
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,679
has this really because it's ingrained in them, you know,

940
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,639
from like an early age. You know basically, you know,

941
00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:02,639
they're they're spinning out anti trinitarian babies, dude, they're like

942
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,119
from a baby, infant phase on, you got to be

943
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:13,480
anti trinitarian. So if you're you know, sort of brainwashed

944
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:17,840
into that from being a baby up, yeah, you're gonna

945
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,119
have a hard time thinking outside of that box, you

946
00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:23,440
know what I mean. It's very similar to Islam, right,

947
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:28,840
like Muslims is as we as we have seen, it's

948
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,239
even difficult to get people of those mindsets to just

949
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,480
think about the other positions, right, like to just get

950
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:41,239
a Muslim to hypath to entertain a hypothetical. It's very

951
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,800
similar with the attitude of the mindset of somebody that

952
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:47,880
was raised, like in a jose Wh's cult, and like

953
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,480
in the case of Kerr, Like it's not an IQ

954
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,679
issue because Kurt has a really high IQ. He's really

955
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:59,719
smart guy, but there's something in the person's psychology upbringing

956
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,880
that whenever something arises that questions that fundamental commitment, there's

957
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,639
a defense mechanism that kicks in. And this is where Neil,

958
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,519
I think has a really good point about for some

959
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:18,679
people like that the technique of deprogramming is much more

960
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,400
effective than polemics and apologetics, and that differs from person

961
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,239
to person, right, I mean, there are some Muslims who

962
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,440
are going to respond to apologetic arguments, you know, like

963
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,840
the type of stuff that we do. But most people

964
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:37,039
respond to wait a minute, Aisha was nine. That's a

965
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:40,679
much more effective polemic than getting into ninety nine attributes

966
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,800
of a lat right. That's for the zero point one

967
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,960
percent of spurgs in the Muslim world, which is not

968
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:52,760
many of them, right, but for a lot of people

969
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,280
probably that when the defense mechanism stuff starts to kick in,

970
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,000
people should look into that type of it's called deprogramming.

971
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:03,960
It's like this. It's basically just this, I don't know,

972
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:07,880
like a non offensive way to approach people that are

973
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,360
locked into positions. It's not my approach, so I don't like.

974
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,280
It's not what I do. But Neil's very good at that.

975
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:17,920
That's Neil's approach to stuff. That's about Neil from Durpul

976
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:28,039
Robinson proxy, what's up death culture?

977
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:28,599
Speaker 4: Seven dollars?

978
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:30,719
Speaker 1: You know if Sir Oswald Mosley was funded or had

979
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:40,000
intelligence connections like to Mustache Man. I do recall this, yes, uh,

980
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,280
I cannot remember what it was exactly. I want to

981
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,440
say that maybe he had actually a connection to something

982
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,960
that you wouldn't expect, like Tavistock or something like that.

983
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,239
But he also might have just been directly connected to

984
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,079
British intelligence. I cannot remember. I think it comes up

985
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,000
in somebody's book, maybe Ratia's book, but I can't remember.

986
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,039
But there is something to that. By the way, the

987
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,599
wine mom that went on the attack. Did y'all see

988
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:16,239
the wine mom that went on the attack? I forgot

989
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,559
to mention this calling me out that I'm stupid and

990
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:21,800
I don't know Dostievsky, even though I've had grid classes

991
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,280
on Dostievsky. I sat and read Crime and Punishment in

992
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,719
a chair for two days straight. But no, she says,

993
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:29,800
I've never read any Dossievsky. I'm an idiot. I don't

994
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,280
know anything. And Grand Inquisitor is not about the pope

995
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,679
and the anti Christ papacy. Really, are you sure? Because

996
00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:41,599
other Roman Catholics like Tim came to my back, kicked

997
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:45,519
it back me up, came to my defense. Yeah, of course,

998
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,159
Grand Inquisitors about the papacy.

999
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:47,559
Speaker 7: Duh.

1000
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:52,639
Speaker 1: No, who this wine mom was? She bought me, By

1001
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:55,079
the way, once I called her wy Mom, I started

1002
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,559
posting frenzy of boxes at her, and she got all

1003
00:58:57,639 --> 00:59:01,559
mad and butt her and blocked me. I put up

1004
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:04,440
this image. By the way, I've decided that grok is

1005
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:06,599
the best for when you're in the midst of some

1006
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:09,760
kind of stupid debate, when you make a stupid app

1007
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,039
like I put a wy Mom praying instead of a

1008
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:15,039
Phronsie box and grog maybe this and this made her

1009
00:59:15,079 --> 00:59:21,000
block me. It was this chick, Emily is a naughty

1010
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:24,920
and she just kept like saying this dumbest like she

1011
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:28,199
kept doubling down, doubling down. You don't know anything, You've

1012
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:31,599
never read anything, and I think she is so And

1013
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:33,800
then she blocked me. And then I said, oh, she

1014
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,519
couldn't take a wy mom joke, and then she unblocked

1015
00:59:36,519 --> 00:59:40,360
me to say that I still didn't know anything about

1016
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,199
ducief kindding never read him, even though she never had

1017
00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:44,079
actually any argument.

1018
00:59:44,119 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 22: It was just.

1019
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,199
Speaker 1: You're dumb. You're dumb here. I mean, that's like chick

1020
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:54,480
level debate, right. Chicks can't roast people. I don't know

1021
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,639
if you know this, but like they're not roasters, dude,

1022
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:02,559
they can't handle it. Dudes can roast if they're over age, thirty,

1023
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,000
all the other men, the gen X, they're soy. They

1024
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,920
can't roast either. They'll just cancel you. If you try

1025
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,679
to roast somebody, they'll try to get you canceled. So

1026
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:18,519
Emily's anati was not happy with my wy mom jokes,

1027
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,679
and she then actually started talking about how long she's

1028
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:24,199
been sober. So I think I hit a nerve with

1029
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,159
the wy mom jokes when she didn't realize that we

1030
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,440
call every lady that comes calls in gets called a

1031
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,960
wine mom, Like like, automatically, you're ipso facto a wy

1032
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:36,679
mom by existing as a woman. To use the Latin,

1033
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,800
she's a Catholic, maybe she'll understand the ipso facto terminology.

1034
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,480
So every Roman calthoque woman that calls in ipso facto

1035
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:45,199
just is by virtue of being a Catholic woman, a

1036
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:52,920
wy mom. They are transubstantiated into being a wine mom automatically.

1037
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:58,039
That's how it works around here, y'all. Anyways, I forgot

1038
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:00,519
to mention the y mom and then shout out to

1039
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:04,000
Anthony Westgate. He chimed in and said, even Sara from

1040
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:07,280
Rose in his so she didn't like the boxes online.

1041
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:17,679
Even sarafrom Rose notes in Grand Inquisitor are in Orthodox

1042
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:21,440
survival course that it's a critique of Jesuits and Jesuitism

1043
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:25,519
and Papism. Of course it is. I had a whole

1044
01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:28,199
grid class. I don't mean a whole course, but one

1045
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:33,440
whole class specifically just on Grand Inquisitor separately, had an

1046
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:39,360
entire class on no, actually more probably more than one class,

1047
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,760
because I mean, Crime and Punishment was long. It's like

1048
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,440
seven hundred pages anyway, But I don't claim to be

1049
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,599
I'm not. I'm not like a Dostoevsky expert. There's a

1050
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:52,519
bunch of I've read noes on the ground Crime Punishment,

1051
01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:56,519
significant sections of Brothers caramonts Of. I have not finished

1052
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:59,440
Brothers Kermoons Of. It's very difficult. I do intend to

1053
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:03,440
venture before where I die finished Brothers Caramonts Of. But

1054
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:06,559
already I think that makes me like way ahead of

1055
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:08,840
like ninety nine percent of people by just finishing Crime

1056
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,239
and Punishment. But anyway, by the way, shout out to

1057
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,800
the pores in the audience, because I was having fun

1058
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,360
with this Thom Sigura meme here tonight is just a

1059
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,360
bunch of slackers, a bunch of poor slackers. All the

1060
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,039
pores in the audience.

1061
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 8: The poors, all the pores.

1062
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: Did you eat today? Did you enjoy your dirt? Sandwich wool?

1063
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,440
That's what people think that you're like when you're a cryptozillionaire.

1064
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,000
I see you. Now, let's do a little bit of

1065
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,639
We're going to open it up to proxy in just

1066
01:02:51,679 --> 01:02:53,119
a second, but I have to do a little more

1067
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:56,039
vindication because once again I was vindicated. It's like a

1068
01:02:56,159 --> 01:03:02,679
daily occurrence now daily vindicated. Turns out your boy, George Clooney,

1069
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,920
whom we said a lot of suspicious agencies type of

1070
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,639
connections over here for many many years to your boy, George,

1071
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,360
I talked about this all the way back to Esotery

1072
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:20,320
Hollywood One, almost ten years ago. Certain actors absolutely seemed

1073
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,800
to be in with the agency. Now, over time this

1074
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,440
kind of came out publicly with confirmation in terms of

1075
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:32,119
Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner, quite a few a listers have

1076
01:03:32,239 --> 01:03:34,800
kind of eventually openly said, yeah, I worked with the agency,

1077
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:41,000
Jim from the Office, Claire Danes. And part of that

1078
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:44,639
has to do with the shows that the CIA would

1079
01:03:44,679 --> 01:03:47,920
consult on that they were stars of, right, like Claire

1080
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,400
Danes being on Homeland. I want to say maybe even

1081
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:59,199
twenty four with Keeper Sutherland had CIA consultation, you know,

1082
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,840
been at what well Jeffer Garner ended up openly just

1083
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:12,239
being like a propaganda salesperson for the CIA. Ben Affleck, Yeah,

1084
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,960
Affleck with Argo openly making that in consultation with it,

1085
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:18,480
and they even even wrote a letter saying, Hey, I've

1086
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,519
had great, great time working with the Cia, et cetera. Now,

1087
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:25,599
I also think that it's beyond just kind of consulting,

1088
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,960
and there are cases, you know, we go back to

1089
01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:31,639
old Hollywood where and I put this in my book

1090
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:34,679
that's circularly with three, I did a whole section on

1091
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:39,000
Hollywood spies, right, people who weren't weren't just consulting or

1092
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:42,199
you know, working together on a movie or something like that,

1093
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:47,400
but actually people who were legit like Honey Traps, spies,

1094
01:04:48,679 --> 01:04:55,840
et cetera, Starling Hayden Oss, Carrie Grant, Spy for THESS,

1095
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:02,760
Justphine Baker, et cetera. And that's all in esotetically with three,

1096
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,599
which you can get signed copies at the shop at

1097
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:07,599
Jason Elsis. By the way, Proxy, what's on your mind?

1098
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:09,559
Speaker 11: Oh?

1099
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:11,119
Speaker 1: I forgot about the way. I forgot to play the clip.

1100
01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:15,159
I'm sorry. So George Clooney is on Drew Barrymore's show.

1101
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,679
It just casually says, oh, yeah, my wife was busy

1102
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,559
helping to draft the Muslim Brotherhood's constitution.

1103
01:05:22,239 --> 01:05:25,599
Speaker 25: For Egypt the Mary and I was like, you're an idiot,

1104
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,320
you know that's not going to happen. Then then comes

1105
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,280
them all and we stayed up all night talking and then.

1106
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm skivving past this part. This is how he met her.

1107
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,519
We're going to skip to the part where he says

1108
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:40,519
the relevant issue through London.

1109
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:42,159
Speaker 25: She was living in London, and I went to London

1110
01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:45,320
to score a movie, and I thought, if you're ever

1111
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,000
going to impress anybody, it's at Abbey Road with one

1112
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:49,760
hundred and fifty piece orchestra there.

1113
01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:53,199
Speaker 1: So he's describing to Drew Barrymore how he met them

1114
01:05:53,239 --> 01:05:56,039
all and then he was going to try to impress

1115
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:58,320
her with scoring a movie or whatever. And then she

1116
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,239
comes back with a she and up.

1117
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 25: I called her up and said, you want to come

1118
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:05,559
see a visit over at Abbey Road, and she's like, yeah,

1119
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:09,239
I'm at a meeting at the Muslim Brotherhood right now

1120
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:09,760
and I'll.

1121
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: Come right over. Because she was in the middle of

1122
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,760
trying to redo.

1123
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 25: A constitution for you know, for the Egyptians.

1124
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: Redoing the Egyptian constitution for the Muslim Brotherhood. Yeah, that's

1125
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:29,320
just your average normy wife for sure. Proxy. What's up? Yes,

1126
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:31,320
what's on your mind?

1127
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,039
Speaker 4: I just got a question, but I feel like I

1128
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:37,719
need some help with absorbing more.

1129
01:06:37,719 --> 01:06:40,199
Speaker 11: If you have any techniques for someone that reads.

1130
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 4: A lot.

1131
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,119
Speaker 1: A lot of Yeah, I mean what I do, uh

1132
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,079
for absorbing the information, And a lot of people take

1133
01:06:48,159 --> 01:06:51,440
issue with this, but it works for me. Different people

1134
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,960
are built different But if you're a very visually oriented person,

1135
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,199
which I am, I take in information typically better visually

1136
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,119
than I do through the other means. Even though I

1137
01:07:01,159 --> 01:07:04,119
do listen to a lot of podcasts, I find that

1138
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:07,880
underlining a lot and then using one sticky note to

1139
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,280
summarize the relevant information on that significant page. Not every page,

1140
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,159
but when you get to a page that you're reading

1141
01:07:14,199 --> 01:07:18,440
that does have significant information, I don't just underline. I

1142
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:21,599
also summarized information on the sticky note. So that for

1143
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,320
me has worked very well for the last I don't know,

1144
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:30,400
twenty issu years of you know, researching, or twenty five

1145
01:07:30,519 --> 01:07:32,400
years whatever it is, I forget how old I am. Whatever,

1146
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,480
that tends to work for me. So everybody assumes that

1147
01:07:37,519 --> 01:07:40,320
there's some sort of process I go through, and there's

1148
01:07:40,519 --> 01:07:44,039
no there's no color coding to the sticky notes. They're

1149
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:47,440
just sticky notes. And by the way, I'm actually a

1150
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,280
slow reader, so for me, it takes a long time.

1151
01:07:50,519 --> 01:07:55,199
And that's also I think beneficial. There's pros and cons, right,

1152
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,079
people that read really fast, I think probably obviously retain

1153
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:02,639
less than if you read slow. But I'm a slow reader,

1154
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,760
so and I don't read online. I have to print

1155
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,519
out or do PDPs or do actual physical tactile books.

1156
01:08:09,639 --> 01:08:12,280
I would I would also encourage younger people. I know

1157
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:18,119
this might sound counterintuitive, but read actual books. Do not

1158
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:21,199
read stuff online now. I mean if it's a news

1159
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:24,239
article or this or that, or it's only online, yeah,

1160
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:25,479
I mean you can bend the rules.

1161
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 18: But for.

1162
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,159
Speaker 1: Best retention, I actually don't think online stuff is the

1163
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:35,760
best retention. I think actual physical because you need the

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experience of the tactile right when you're underlining, your bodies involved.

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When you're just looking at crap on screens, it's not right.

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It's it's more abstracted. And even though words and reading

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are an abstract activity, the more embodied they are probably

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the best. It is as that makes That's why in

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01:08:57,159 --> 01:08:59,119
the liturgy we don't just walk into the church and

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just read. We hear it and we sing it, so

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it's bodily action involved. It's not just like if Spurgs

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designed the liturgy, we would all just like walk in

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,279
and just like stare at a giant screen and absorb

1174
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the information into our mind. But that's not how it works. Luke,

1175
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:21,800
what's up dude? The spurg liturgy, Father Deacon, could you

1176
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,560
get all the Spurgs at your church to design the

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like abstracted like mathematic or just have it in binary code?

1178
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,760
Like the liturgy is just a binary code that you download.

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Speaker 4: It's in Montana. That's why I moved up here.

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Speaker 1: To create a Spurg cult.

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Speaker 4: No Spurgs in Montana.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's no Spergs in Montena. Okay, Luke, what's up

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01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:44,800
on you?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 15: So I see a lot of people giving conflicting takes

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01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,960
about what they how imminent they actually think the false

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union is going to be?

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01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: I saw I think it was.

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Speaker 15: Luigi posted this Catholic article that said that in his

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:16,399
homily Bartholomele that uh, he said that if they didn't

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01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,359
concede the Philly Oaquay and the papacy, then there wouldn't

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actually be a union at all. So like, do you

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01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,840
how imminent really do you think that the union is?

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Because it seems to me that you're very convinced.

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Speaker 10: That the union is going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: When did I say that? I said they're going to

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push for it.

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Speaker 4: But you but do you actually think it's gonna happen

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like anytime?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that when they when they do these

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kinds of meetings like we covered a couple of days

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01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,920
ago or whatever like those are are they're testing the waters.

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I don't think they're like just gonna do it. They're

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,920
gonna test the waters and they're gonna wait until they

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,159
feel like or they think that there's enough people on board.

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I think they go ahead of the FDA would know

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01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:58,199
about more than me.

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01:10:58,319 --> 01:11:03,520
Speaker 4: But it's called stalking horse. It's a hunter's term. Uses

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01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,079
an analogy where the hunter goes behind a horse to

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01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:09,520
stalk the prey to see how close they can get. So,

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01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:14,800
like Jay said, testing the waters, but we don't because

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01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,560
of that, and you know, they're looking online and how

1214
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,760
people respond and stuff like this too. It was the

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,000
same stuff that that the PAPC has been doing with

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01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:27,359
the skittle stuff. So rather than just come out and

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01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,680
do it, they're obviously moving towards that direction. But they're

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01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,239
testing the waters. They're doing the stalking horse, and they

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01:11:34,319 --> 01:11:35,199
may roll it back.

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Speaker 1: They might say, yeah, this is what when Tim called in.

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Exactly when Tim called in, he explained it as Peronism, right.

1222
01:11:42,079 --> 01:11:46,319
Tim's term is is one Peron's approach of two says

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01:11:46,399 --> 01:11:48,680
forward one step back to those forward one step back.

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01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,880
So no, it's not going to be like I predict

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as the profit jayder that on twenty the year twenty thirty,

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they will announce the false union and no, no, it's

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they're going to move in that direction. And the reason

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I think that there will not be a change in

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01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:07,520
the direction is because ultimately Leo and Francis and these

1230
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,479
people they answer to geopolitical powers and it's the State Department,

1231
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:16,479
it's the power elite that want this ecumenist type of union.

1232
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And so they're not making they're not calling the shots. Okay,

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01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,520
they're not the real ballers and shot collars. They're subservient

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01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,920
to other more powerful interests that tell them you're going

1235
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,840
to push this, You're going to keep pushing it. That's

1236
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,520
why the papacy can't reverse course, is because they were

1237
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:35,800
subverted a long time ago.

1238
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Speaker 15: So bar you would say, Bartholomele is compromised.

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01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:42,520
Speaker 1: At this point, I believe so, yeah, absolutely, And.

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01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,520
Speaker 15: Like his surrounding, like higher ups, they're all basically compromised.

1241
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,119
Speaker 1: I mean, look, at the arcons. I mean they give

1242
01:12:49,359 --> 01:12:50,520
awards to Joe Biden.

1243
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Speaker 15: Yeah all right, yeah, thank you.

1244
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 22: Also look at the the from the Roman Catholic side

1245
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,880
of this. Look at that Unit Tate a letter that

1246
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the Pope just wrote where he's talking about the Phillyoquay.

1247
01:13:07,359 --> 01:13:09,279
Speaker 1: Expand on that, John, What's what's your take on that?

1248
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Speaker 22: I mean, it looks to me in the letter like

1249
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he's saying they're not gonna say.

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01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 11: The Philioquay anymore, that they're going to go back to

1251
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:19,560
the old.

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:20,119
Speaker 4: Way of saying that.

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01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: Oh you mean you think he's gonna just not do it. Yeah,

1254
01:13:25,079 --> 01:13:26,680
I thought I thought he was just doing that as

1255
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,760
a one off. You're saying, no, maybe they actually might

1256
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:29,600
not do it anymore.

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Speaker 22: The impression I get from Unna tante fide the letter

1258
01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:38,560
is that he's gonna say the philip He's not gonna

1259
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:39,880
say the Philioquay anymore.

1260
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, I misunderstood.

1261
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Speaker 22: Yeah. And also there's multiple there's multiple masses now he's

1262
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,960
given and he just doesn't say it.

1263
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Speaker 1: Interesting, Penny wits two dollars. If we talk about sticky notes,

1264
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I will give money post it notes for life. Okay,

1265
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,279
whatever I mean? I don't like. I don't know what

1266
01:14:08,359 --> 01:14:10,079
the right brand is. Let's see what I have. I

1267
01:14:10,199 --> 01:14:13,800
have post it notes, so you're correct. Thank you Mike

1268
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:18,840
for ten dollars. Mikech roachburn you are. You're a poor,

1269
01:14:19,039 --> 01:14:22,720
a poor Continue to mock people as they call it's

1270
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,800
the funniest thing ever and it makes my day. Also,

1271
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,920
could you cover the war on wig Zantium. He means

1272
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,239
the wigger peoples such as myself. Well, once we eraqt

1273
01:14:35,359 --> 01:14:39,239
the wigs Wigantine Empire, you will have a wigger emperor

1274
01:14:39,279 --> 01:14:41,119
and it'll be me, and then all these problems are

1275
01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:44,800
going to be solved. So thank you, Mike. I will

1276
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:50,000
say though, that the point that we've made many times

1277
01:14:50,079 --> 01:14:56,119
that Islam tends to be the broom of Judaism was

1278
01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:59,239
actually made by some of the rabbis. Thank you rabbis

1279
01:14:59,279 --> 01:15:04,960
for confirming what we were called evil conspiracy theorists and

1280
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,720
racists for talking about is it. I shared it somewhere

1281
01:15:10,399 --> 01:15:16,600
and also, uh live like fda, I mean cotail excuse

1282
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,079
me played another clip on his stream that I was

1283
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:24,039
going to talk about here with the Muslims and had

1284
01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:27,560
even more rabbis saying the same thing. So we knew

1285
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,600
that I knew this like ten years ago, but it's

1286
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:34,439
nice to have the admissions here. So this is some

1287
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:39,159
rabbi I don't know. Oh, they don't believe that their

1288
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:42,439
Messiah will return until Christianity, which they think is edom,

1289
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:48,079
will be destroyed. Hence the reference earlier to the net

1290
01:15:48,399 --> 01:15:51,319
who's saying he's reading the book by Barry Strauss about

1291
01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:57,520
the about Rome, Rome being the Western civilization, Christianity, et cetera.

1292
01:15:58,359 --> 01:16:05,159
Speaker 3: Like sid you mixing up?

1293
01:16:06,279 --> 01:16:09,079
Speaker 1: Now? Isn't it funny that this clip comes from that

1294
01:16:09,279 --> 01:16:15,680
goofball pagan, Adam Green. But Adam Green says Christianity is

1295
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,920
a Jewish conspiracy to destroy the Western Pagans, and yet

1296
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,239
he's sharing a clip of the rabbis saying that they

1297
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:26,279
will destroy Christianity, So like oops, does he not even

1298
01:16:26,279 --> 01:16:27,279
pay attention to the clips?

1299
01:16:28,039 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 3: It's amazing?

1300
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:38,159
Speaker 1: What what's that you cut out? We can't hear you.

1301
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:39,520
You're you're cutting out?

1302
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 4: What?

1303
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:41,079
Speaker 8: Uh?

1304
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 4: Didn't somebody find out that Adam Green's mentor is a rabbi.

1305
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't know about mentor, but he has a like

1306
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,479
Tobyah singer and rabbis come on his channel, which is not.

1307
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 4: Surprising Adam Green's the prim of of the Jews.

1308
01:16:59,159 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 1: No Italy will be destroyed for the evils that it's

1309
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:17,560
done to Israel. Italy is part of Rome. Islam will

1310
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,079
be the broom as you seem as the room of Israel.

1311
01:17:21,119 --> 01:17:23,680
There's a rabbi saying, right there, Islam is the broom

1312
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,840
of Israel. Now there's a bunch more in this clip.

1313
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,760
You can go watch this clip. Probably can't get to

1314
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,359
get away with too much of it over here, but

1315
01:17:33,319 --> 01:17:43,680
you get the idea. And Cotel noted that did you

1316
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,920
know that there was like a billion dollars fraud of

1317
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,960
the Somali community in Minnesota.

1318
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 5: Check this out would be so strong that we would

1319
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,399
able to be able to get more done.

1320
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

1321
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 5: Because Indians they occupy this weird middle area where there

1322
01:18:00,199 --> 01:18:04,359
they're Eastern Asians, not East Asians, but we'll say South Asians.

1323
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:11,560
They're Asians, they're brown, but they speak English. They typically

1324
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,000
have a job, but they also commit a bunch of fraud,

1325
01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:20,279
and they don't really assimilate and they maintain their Indian identity.

1326
01:18:20,319 --> 01:18:23,119
Speaker 1: And the problem is India is the most.

1327
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 5: Populated country in the world, and so with that being

1328
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,920
the case, they could replace the entire population.

1329
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: Of America three hundred and fifty million is what we're told.

1330
01:18:33,119 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 5: They could replace that with the blink of an eye.

1331
01:18:36,079 --> 01:18:38,479
They could replace three hundred and fifty They could import

1332
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,399
three hundred and fifty million Indians to America, and India

1333
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:45,159
wouldn't change at all because it's over a billion people.

1334
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,319
Speaker 1: That's why it's all. It's like serious go time.

1335
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:54,239
Speaker 2: And so.

1336
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,119
Speaker 5: Let's see if the audio works because I would like

1337
01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:01,279
to play you this vo if possible.

1338
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: So this would be our last attempt.

1339
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 5: Let me know immediately guys if the audio isn't working

1340
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,760
on this, but we're going to try to play this video.

1341
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,079
Speaker 1: I thought it was worth playing here.

1342
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,319
Speaker 24: Why are Somalians in America?

1343
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 14: Yesterday a Somalian rear ended me, which thankfully no one

1344
01:19:20,119 --> 01:19:21,880
was hurt and no damage was done to my truck.

1345
01:19:22,319 --> 01:19:26,119
But it got me thinking, why are Somalians in America,

1346
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,760
especially North Dakota and Minnesota.

1347
01:19:29,039 --> 01:19:30,359
Speaker 24: So I looked into it.

1348
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 14: The main group bringing in Somemalians is Lutheran Social Services.

1349
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,720
They are led by this guy and this is his staff,

1350
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,439
And turns out they get two and seventy five dollars

1351
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,560
and they bring over but we have to ask the

1352
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,960
question why are they coming over here in the first place.

1353
01:19:49,359 --> 01:19:52,960
And another surprise turns out our government was funding a

1354
01:19:53,039 --> 01:19:57,720
dictatorship in Somalia throughout the Cold War, led by Sahib Bahare.

1355
01:19:58,039 --> 01:20:01,279
Speaker 1: And this uh so, you know, I constantly get asked this, No,

1356
01:20:01,359 --> 01:20:05,920
I'm not interested in debating Adam Green because number one Cotel,

1357
01:20:06,119 --> 01:20:08,760
Jem and Andrew have already debated Adam Green. It's the

1358
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,319
most low tier stuff. It's he doesn't know anything about

1359
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:17,000
basic fallacies, and there's no need to keep doing this debate.

1360
01:20:18,359 --> 01:20:21,319
And I lose my patience when if you debate people

1361
01:20:21,359 --> 01:20:25,479
that have like no knowledge of basic logical fallacies and

1362
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,800
they just keep charging forward like it doesn't It's very

1363
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,079
frustrating to the debater and it also is a waste

1364
01:20:32,119 --> 01:20:32,439
of time.

1365
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,359
Speaker 14: Dictatorship led to clan favoritism and overall this destabilize the

1366
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,560
country and inevitably collapsed in nineteen ninety one.

1367
01:20:41,279 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 4: Also, our troops were over there.

1368
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 14: This is where the movie Blackhawk Down comes from. But overall,

1369
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,279
Somalians have no right to be in America, especially North

1370
01:20:49,359 --> 01:20:53,199
Dakota and Minnesota. They don't integrate into our societies. They

1371
01:20:53,279 --> 01:20:56,560
carry all their clan mentalities. If you personally have never

1372
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,359
interacted with Somalian or just don't believe me, I would

1373
01:20:59,359 --> 01:21:01,960
recommend checking Nick Shirley's video he did the other day.

1374
01:21:02,359 --> 01:21:04,079
Speaker 24: What do you guys think about all this?

1375
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 3: Let me know down the comments below.

1376
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 5: Anyways, what this, what's it's been discovered is basically this

1377
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:25,279
massive fraud campaign to bring more and more Somalians into

1378
01:21:25,319 --> 01:21:29,319
the United States. And then Tim Waltz, the you know,

1379
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,960
the fairy guy that's the governor of Minnesota. He then

1380
01:21:35,079 --> 01:21:38,239
was also getting kickbats through these millions of dollars for example.

1381
01:21:39,079 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: No, it's all these skittles leaders that it's it's not

1382
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,000
accidental that there's a bunch of butt buddies that run everything.

1383
01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:49,479
That that's how this happens. Absolutely right in the chat there,

1384
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,479
j team says for seven dollars, thank you for your guidance.

1385
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:04,960
I can get ventured. Those witnesses are not a cult. Well, bro,

1386
01:22:05,159 --> 01:22:07,119
just call in, Like I mean, I appreciate all the

1387
01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:09,600
super chats, but just call in and have a discussion.

1388
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,079
I'm happy to explain to you all about Jose Witnesses.

1389
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,800
If you want to call in, the link is in

1390
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:21,239
the chat. You just use the use the X space link.

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Now we're gonna take a brief break here and you

1392
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can listen to this funkal pop song here as a classic.

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If you want to call in, you can still call in.

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Don't go anywhere. I'm gonna make some coffee and I'm

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gonna have to go to the little girl's room.

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Speaker 4: Go T T.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise, just hang around and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 24: There to a bull pop.

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Speaker 8: Whoa, Oh.

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Speaker 26: We got bed at conjoined in a subway shop.

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Speaker 24: Oh oh, I'm married to a buncle. Oh by amnon matal.

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They come to me through a tube. My whole life,

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it's been watching on a tube.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, Oh.

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Speaker 27: Oh we got wed at courcious then.

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Speaker 26: The subway shop. Oh we got wed it courts in

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a subway shop.

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Speaker 3: Oh she got we.

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Speaker 24: Got to us in a subway shop.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, I got married to a fu.

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Speaker 27: Whoa he got mad and come joint in the subway

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shot for.

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Speaker 3: I'm married to uncle Pahoa.

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Speaker 28: By imaging made Rosie come to me through to whole

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like the skip watching on the.

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Speaker 3: Tu whoa whoa oh.

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Speaker 28: Joint to say the subway shot over. We got waiting

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for the s suthway shop for.

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Speaker 9: Oh well phone, go pop.

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Speaker 3: We got ready.

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Speaker 27: We got joined in a subway shop. Night is Anna Roads.

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Speaker 24: They come to me through the two nights Anna Roads.

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They come to me through the Satto bunco.

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Speaker 3: Phone.

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Speaker 8: Whoa punk.

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Speaker 3: Funk?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Oh, I got married?

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01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 3: I got married to my phone call Papo. We got ready.

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Speaker 24: We got joined in.

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Speaker 3: A subway shop. Whoa go.

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Speaker 8: Phone phone call.

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Speaker 24: I'm mappy to my phone, go pool.

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Speaker 27: We got wedded.

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Speaker 24: Come join in a subway shop.

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Speaker 29: Oh, I'm mappy maybe to punk goo. We got joined

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in the subway shop. Bolo vitamins and biscuits.

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Speaker 24: Some minerals to come. Did you do it too?

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Speaker 1: All right, long and back nerds. We were discussing the

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flooding of the US with the cult of Islam by design,

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not by accident. And shout outs to Cotel. He did

1442
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a really good, lengthy livestream. You can go watch the

1443
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rest of his live stream there on this topic. Now,

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I wanted to talk a little bit about Candace because

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the entire media landscape of the Internet media world now

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Candace is the queen She is Sweet Candy b is

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the queen Bee of media. The story is now she

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01:29:50,399 --> 01:29:57,239
has surpassed Joe Rogan Road joke. She has dethroned the

1449
01:29:57,359 --> 01:30:06,840
DMT bro and become the Queen Bee, the Beyonce of media. Now,

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01:30:09,399 --> 01:30:16,279
who in the heck can keep up with the conspiracy

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01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:24,119
rabbit hole that is Candace Charlie Kirk TPUSA and then

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01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:30,319
Candace versus everyone Crowder quartering flint tests. I mean, it

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01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:34,479
is just like I cannot keep up. Nobody can keep

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01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,920
up with this. In fact, I saw multiple other media

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people saying, can anyone update me and explain to me

1456
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:45,159
what is happening with this whole story? And I read

1457
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:51,399
multiple people's explanations and threads, and I still have no

1458
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:55,800
idea what's going on? And who could keep up with

1459
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,840
this flight logs of who's flying into I mean, I mean,

1460
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I'm not saying there's no conspiracy. I don't even understand

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what's happening. And I think that from a from a

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media attention standpoint, there's some sort of genius person. There's

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got to be some sort of genius media something going on,

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01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:25,479
because she has cracked the code for getting the entire

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01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:29,359
world to talk about And I mean it doesn't matter

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whether you like her or not, because people that become

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01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:37,439
super popular mega popular also have a gigantic audience of haters.

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That's part of the popularity. I mean even in the

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chat right here, right now, everybody just super divided on Canvas.

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The whole chat is just like she's the best versus

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she's crazy. I don't know. I have no idea what's

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going on, because I I after the conspiracies about Charlie

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01:31:59,239 --> 01:32:01,520
went or everyone. I'm not just talking about Canvas's theories.

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I'm talking about just all over the Internet was all

1475
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Charlie Kirk theories. I checked out, not because I believe

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the system or anything. I just like, dude, there's no

1477
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like when there's the high profile events going back to

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like the Big Nine event. Immediately afterwards, there's just infinity

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theories and smoking mirrors everywhere. She's a queen. She's a

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01:32:30,039 --> 01:32:35,960
black slate queen. Excuse me. There was only one Internet

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01:32:36,319 --> 01:32:42,720
black slate queen diva calling out false flags, assassinations and

1482
01:32:43,239 --> 01:32:50,039
scionism ten years ago, and she's sitting right here on

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01:32:50,119 --> 01:32:50,640
your screen.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the chat is not happy.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that I saw recently that made sense

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was that she was gonna come with receipts and she

1489
01:33:07,159 --> 01:33:10,640
was gonna set tp Topoosa straight. I'm gonna get up

1490
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,479
in there. I'm gonna set to Poosa straight. Who the

1491
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:17,359
hell is Tapoosa? She she's gonna set to Poosa straight

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t b Usa. But then she said I have a

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prior commitment. And then everybody exploded, Oh you want to debate,

1494
01:33:25,239 --> 01:33:28,960
you want a debate. But I still have no idea

1495
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:38,119
what's going on. And then suddenly Flint Tests, who was

1496
01:33:38,199 --> 01:33:42,039
friends with Tucker for a week, Now that's off. Oh

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01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:45,920
he's there. They hate each other again. Flint Test says

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Tucker is the fakest of all time. Anyway, I don't

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have who can keep up with it. I mean, it's

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so it's I guess it's just how it is. Like

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01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,920
everything turns into soap opera, you know what I mean.

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01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,000
It goes from like real, real issues, everyone's talking about

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01:34:15,039 --> 01:34:19,039
the issues, debating the topics. Then it's all the soap

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01:34:19,079 --> 01:34:22,520
opera and it's about But you'll never get away from that.

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01:34:23,079 --> 01:34:25,239
I don't mean this to be blackpilling. I'm just saying

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01:34:25,319 --> 01:34:28,960
stating it as reality. Like I've been in the media

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01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,880
sphere long enough to realize that it will never ever

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be about the issues. Issues will always be secondary to

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01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:41,439
the drama of the people because that's what people unfortunately

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01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,039
gravitate to. And it will never not be that way.

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You will never get people to not care about the

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01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:52,119
drama and who's who hump and who who hump and

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01:34:52,199 --> 01:34:57,439
who over immigration. Everybody's going to care about who's hump

1514
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:02,079
and who over immigration. It will never because that's unfortunately

1515
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:08,119
the drama of politics and media. That's just how it is.

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01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,319
It will always be. Jerry Springer, I don't mean to

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01:35:12,359 --> 01:35:15,920
be blackpilling. I'm just telling you the truth. Dog. So

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01:35:17,119 --> 01:35:19,880
as we see from the chat, everybody has an opinion

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01:35:20,079 --> 01:35:22,720
on Candice. The whole chat is just Oh, I will

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01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:28,399
tell you this is the real diva slag queen right here,

1521
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,359
and y'all ought to know that. And by the way,

1522
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,479
half the shithy talks about is stuff I've talked about

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01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,760
for ten years or more. So again, we all know

1524
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:42,520
who the real diva is. I'm just joking. I'm having fun.

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I do have twenty seven inward passes. However, where we

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01:35:47,399 --> 01:35:52,000
at let's see. Speaking of so, I heard a bunch

1527
01:35:52,039 --> 01:35:57,399
of commentators gen x boomer commentators, including Glenn back Do,

1528
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:03,640
a gigantic Glenn back style chalkboard breakdown of color revolutions

1529
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,600
and how they're done, and that we might be having

1530
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:10,720
one in our country. Really, you think here's me seven six,

1531
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:15,720
seven years ago doing a video on color revolutions as

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01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:20,319
a present day problem in America that we are undergoing

1533
01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:24,439
our color relation. So thank you Boomer people and gen

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01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:29,479
X people in the media sphere for being ten years

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01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:33,439
late almost to stuff that we've been talking about for forever.

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01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,760
But no, everyone wants to go listen to the information.

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01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,640
You are all out here in this sphere. You're like

1538
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,479
my mom and my boom. You're like the boomers. You're

1539
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,680
the new boomers because back ten fifteen years ago, what

1540
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,000
would happen is you would learn something and you would

1541
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,880
tell the boomers this, and then ten years later the

1542
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,720
boomer says, I just heard that on the Fox News

1543
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:03,119
that they're that the GMOs are bad. Yeah, you mean

1544
01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:05,159
what I told you ten years ago, the GMO's about

1545
01:37:05,199 --> 01:37:07,600
you said, it's crazy. Well, but you ain't got a

1546
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:08,239
TV show.

1547
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 30: Why why if you knew what you was talking about

1548
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,840
they put you up there on that fancy set. Well,

1549
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,199
if you knew, if you knew everything, it worked, you

1550
01:37:17,319 --> 01:37:21,079
got a Fox No TV show. Literally, that's what it

1551
01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:23,239
was all throughout the two thousands.

1552
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 1: Right, Well, guess what now you're all the same boomers dummies.

1553
01:37:28,319 --> 01:37:30,479
All the stuff that I told y'all ten years ago,

1554
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,760
Now Glenn Beck talks about it, color revolutions. Let's see. Iay,

1555
01:37:35,079 --> 01:37:39,600
Michael mcfowell, bro, why you would be ten years out

1556
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:45,239
of the game, BJ says for ten dollars, I don't

1557
01:37:45,239 --> 01:37:47,960
know who's right. I don't know about what to say

1558
01:37:48,039 --> 01:37:53,279
with Candice and Tapoosa, but it is entertaining, I know.

1559
01:37:53,399 --> 01:37:55,800
That's what she figured out. She figured out, don't nobody

1560
01:37:55,840 --> 01:38:03,079
care about no damn issues illegration elections. People want freaking drama, dude.

1561
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:08,560
They want to know who touching who butt. She cracked

1562
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,960
the code, dude, She said, I'm gonna take a little

1563
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,079
bit of Jerry Springer. I'm gonna take a little bit

1564
01:38:14,119 --> 01:38:17,159
of conspiracy Alex Jones. I'm gonna combine him together and

1565
01:38:17,279 --> 01:38:21,039
put him into the full fruition of the Black SaaS

1566
01:38:21,079 --> 01:38:28,760
queen Diva. And it is the ultimate media genius operation.

1567
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,560
She cracked the code. Now, she took a little bit

1568
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:37,479
of this and a little bit of that. What's that

1569
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,279
wraps on? You could get with this or you can

1570
01:38:39,319 --> 01:38:41,000
get with that, you can get with this, you get

1571
01:38:41,039 --> 01:38:43,640
with that. Candace just took a little bit and she

1572
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,119
put it into a recipe and cooked up the biggest

1573
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:53,039
media thing of all time. She even dethroned Rod Jogan.

1574
01:38:53,359 --> 01:39:01,159
Who would have ever thought, get this the first time

1575
01:39:01,239 --> 01:39:06,760
I went on the kill stream to debate, Like twenty

1576
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seventeen sixteen, Guess who had just been on the kill stream?

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Canvas sweet candy now