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Speaker 1: You. I'm now listening to soft core History.

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Speaker 2: What is up? Welcome back to soft Core History. I

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am your host for the week, Rob Fox, joined as

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always by Dan Rejester.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's a pleasure to host my good friend Robert

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Fox in your home, in my sweet abode, beautiful wonderful home.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: My one bedroom apartment?

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Speaker 2: What do you need more in one bedroom for it's

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a big apartment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do it from my couch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big living room, bigger kitchen.

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Speaker 1: You can see directly into my apartment though, from the

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common area at my apartment complex.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I wonder if they see the lights on hanging

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above my TV, just wondering what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's an no f setup.

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Speaker 1: They think I'm spreading my cheeks, Yeah, showing my whole.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for the family that live below you

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on the first floor because one of their their kid's

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bedroom is just like a glass door on like next

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to a walkway.

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Speaker 1: The slot area. Yeah, they keep it open because their

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dogs always come running.

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Speaker 2: That's a nightmare. And they're not young kids either, so

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they are like they're like in high school, so they're

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they're like beating off like with just a thin pane

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of glass between them and the public.

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Speaker 1: It's only a two bedroom apartment as well, so oh yeah,

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mom gets one.

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Speaker 2: And the two kids get the other. I noticed that too,

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So that's an extra masturbation nightmare.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't live like that as a fifteen nowhere to

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go sixteen year old.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, they probably go out to the uh the pool bathroom.

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That's definitely the cranks, like shit.

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Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope it is. You have the

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smell of like a hot chick that lives here, still

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wafting in the area.

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Speaker 1: I suppose no one's really hit. The pool's been a

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little chilly, but it's almost pool season. We're about to

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pop top soon. We almost back.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I hope people look in here and

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think your production is what you're producing is disgusting. No.

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Speaker 1: One of my friends who lives here, Carson, I see

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him a dog park all the time. He'll be working

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out the gym when we record. Sometimes he'd like, yeah, dude,

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I see you getting after it.

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Speaker 2: See grind.

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Speaker 1: See you not necessarily grinding, but just talking into a microphone. Yeah,

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like soup, Carson Subcrson.

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Speaker 2: We got a fun one today. If by fun you

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know you mean like a series of horrifying details, it's

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pretty sweet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a pretty horrifying episode for the Patreon.

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Speaker 2: Patreon dot com Solas Softcore History.

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Speaker 1: Two additional episodes every week drop Wednesday Friday on the

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lower tier, and then we got a sports show on

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the upper tier.

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Speaker 2: And more importantly than that, though, of the two episodes

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a week thing, a four year evergreen back catalog, so.

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Speaker 1: Much content, it's all history. We've talked about this, like

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the amount we research and write it's too much. Doesn't

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click in our heads and we're like, oh damn, we've

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been doing this a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're out of topics. Yeah, I feel that way.

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I've felt that way for a year and a half.

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Speaker 1: Now. I always stumble upon something.

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Speaker 2: It's always something, And of.

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Speaker 1: Course I'm in my Ottoman phase right now.

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Speaker 2: So the more we're doing more Automan stuff.

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Speaker 1: Today we're doing Vlad oh sweet, yeah, Romanian stuff.

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Speaker 2: We should uh, we'll talk about it at the end

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of that Patriot episode. Let's decide whose episode was more disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like that.

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Speaker 2: Because this one's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: And I know that you wrote this episode with a

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sponsor in mind, but the sponsor didn't come through.

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Speaker 2: Well, they came through with the product and we got

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it behind you. It's i'll shout them out now. Just

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to shout them out, I'll come a freebie. The uh

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Presadius Watch Company sent us a watch Pacific Theater themed

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behind you. You had to box behind me. It's still

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it's still boxed up. I'll do an unboxing on like

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social as well. But it's really sweet and it's like

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kind of based on the watches they wore. Plus it's

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got like a little map of like the Pacific Theater

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on the face and so it's a really cool watch.

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They hit us up to do this and I was

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like okay, And they sent the watch like a week

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and a half ago, so it's like, well, I guess

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i'll do it this week. And then I checked my

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email and I was like, oh, no copy. They didn't

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send any copy yet, So I.

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Speaker 1: Just maybe they want us to riff like this.

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Speaker 2: They do. I think mostly want us to riff. But

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what I'm afraid of is that there is a code

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that I won't give because I don't.

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Speaker 1: Have use code crankshit.

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Speaker 2: But the Persadius Watch Company is really cool. It's p

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R A E. S. I d us watch co. You

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just google them. They have a bunch of actually military

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themed watches from like World War Two and stuff like that.

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I was checking out the website earlier. It's awesome. Highly

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recommend checking it out.

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Speaker 1: Oh we don't need a full read.

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Speaker 2: I know even before I give a code when they

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ever whenever they said it. But check it out, pick

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out what you like, uh, and then use the code later.

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But uh, anyway, we'll get into this episode. So I

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wrote a Pacific Theater themed episode because after they wanted

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Uh so, now we're gonna get two in the next

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month and a half.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: But that's fine. Pacific theaters full of.

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Speaker 1: Right up your alley. I mean, your grandfather served there, Mike.

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Speaker 2: One of my two grandfathers. The other one was in

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Europe in the Battle of the Bulge, and my grandfather,

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Robert Edward Fox Senior was in the Philippines and the Pacific.

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Speaker 1: We've covered this in great detail. The Battle of the

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Bulge was a film. It wasn't actually war.

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Speaker 2: It was just eight men wrestling each other to see

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who got the bulge.

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Speaker 1: All oiled up. Yeah, ready to go out by a

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pool in La the Hollywood Hills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, wonder he never liked to talk about it. No,

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I always thought it was because he saw some shit.

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Speaker 1: I just imagine it was the scene from Boogie Knights.

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Speaker 2: Which one just out by the pool. Yeah, I always

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by the scene that always sticks with me. And Boogie

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eight people standing around watching his wife get fucked. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: William H.

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Speaker 2: Macon, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: My favorite character. Plus his brain's out, poor guy. Sorry

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if I spoiled that for you.

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Speaker 2: It's it's an old, dirty, year old movie.

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Speaker 1: This is it.

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Speaker 2: Damn almost for sure. It's the nineties, like Late Night.

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Speaker 1: I know, time just doesn't hit anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Waiting for the grays to fill my beard.

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Speaker 2: I'm waiting for a beard to grow. Never will.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let it go for the both of us. Okay,

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I'll keep growing it.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say, I do respect your beard because when

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I'll scroll Facebook a lot of times and I'll see

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just old people I know, like from life, and there's

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a lot of real dog shit in terms of care.

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I mean, I'm just talking like carpet of pubs, just

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hanging out a curtain of pews.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's popular in Delco where I'm from outside Philadelphia.

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You get this beard grown all the way down your

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chin and neck, but then you kind of trim and

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maybe even get rid of the mustache, almost like you're

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from Daugistan. It's like, is he from Daugistan two to

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three years and forget or is he just Delco trash?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It is later hard to tell until you hear

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Speaker 1: I guess probably sound the same, so same amount of English,

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yeah can be spoken.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. One thing we've always said on the

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show is that the Pacific Theater just an absolute nightmare.

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worse place to fight. I put it above the Civil

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Speaker 1: I think comparable to Vietnam.

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Speaker 2: It's comparable to Vietnam, but I still think this is worse,

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partly because the enemy was more near peer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were on our level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like crazier, even though the Vietnamese, God

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bless them, they were crazy, but the Japanese were just

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another level of insane. And actually that's what we're gonna

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talk about today.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've done some Japanese war crime episodes before.

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Speaker 2: We've done the Siege of Manila, which was horrifying, and

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we also did the I guess what was my favorite one?

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Speaker 1: The episode where they got eaten by alligators crocodiles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the saltwater crocs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course alligators only in Florida, uh slash Louisian China.

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Speaker 2: No, there's something in China. There is a type of

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allegator in China, but it's specifically the saltwater croc because

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those crocs are fucking enormous and there was getting chomped

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up Romrie Island. Highly recommend checking that episode. It's one

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Speaker 1: With Bouch with Booche. You remember it was a Bouch.

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Speaker 2: I thought Bouch should enjoy that one. Yeah, I thought

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Booch's alley.

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Speaker 1: And that was when Jake was still with us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just skipped the week he did so. I

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think the Pacific Theater was also you could probably still

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rank the Eastern Front above it in terms of worse

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fronts to be on, but in terms of but that

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the Armies, the Pacific theater was. I guess the environment too.

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Speaker 1: But dude, fucked the cold, now you wouldn't you think

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you'd prefer jungle. Yeah, give me humidity, give me the bugs,

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give me the snakes. I don't want the cold.

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Speaker 2: I learned This episode is about this. But one thing

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I learned is that a lot of soldiers had to

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be taken off the front line from the Pacific from uh,

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from a debilitating I guess illness is really more of

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a skin situation. They got tropical acne, just acne so

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bad that it like was crippling.

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Speaker 1: It's fine, take that over prospect, all right, every day

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of the week.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough.

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Speaker 1: There was a reason I moved to Texas. That's a

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fucking hate the cold.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. One thing we always like to also joke

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about is how the Japanese almost ate George.

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Speaker 1: Bush h W.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not an exaggeration. They almost ate George W. Bush.

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So what I came to find out was that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they knew there were time travelers. They had to

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stop HW from eating the baby. Yeah it was eat

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or B eating allegedly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get that. They want his indurna crone. He was

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a twenty year old at the time, young blood. But

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of cannibalism because and we're gonna talk about that in

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this incident, it was a and not a one off.

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The Japanese often eight enemy soldiers and.

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Speaker 1: B Imperial Japan. Yep, I didn't go back centuries though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently new wish because it did go against like

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one eats people, right, so like it was taboo.

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Speaker 1: Obviously before that they were kind of dicks, but Imperial

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Speaker 2: Oh they really. Yeah, they glowed up there evil quite

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Speaker 1: We've talked about Samurai culture. They were just the murdering

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hobos test your sword, their goons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were.

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Speaker 1: A lower class, it would just strike you down to

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test the new sword.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it did be is this cannibalism did not

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happen solely because they didn't have other food to eat.

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Speaker 1: No, they had plenty of women's titties that they cut off,

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also that they could have just cooked up.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of the time, a lot of the

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instances of cannibalism that were recorded were not because of

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a lack of food. It was for other like they

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didn't need to eat the people. They wanted to eat

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the people.

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Speaker 1: Psychological warfare.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we're gonna get in uh to that now.

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So Japanese Americans and other Allied soldiers on several recorded occasions.

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wasn't not widespread. And let me explain that. Historians estimate

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there's about one hundred confirmed incidents based on declassified Allied

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documents and war crimes trials and survivor testimonies. But it

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was probably like more to quite a bit more, because

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in nineteen forty four, the Japanese sent out in order

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to the whole army being like stop eating people. It

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was prevalent enough that the army had to be like

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stop eating humans.

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Speaker 1: Had to do a directive order. Yeah, the entire army,

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millions of people in the Japanese army, they were like

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stop eating your goddamn enemies, you psychopaths. What was the

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recruiting process, like, were they just getting a bunch of

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people out of prison.

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Speaker 2: The Japanese was a kuza back then, and every man

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on the theyakuza probably got out of it, honestly, if anything.

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But yeah, it was every sixteen year old and up

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on the fucking island.

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Speaker 1: Actually not familiar. When do you think the yakuza.

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Speaker 2: Started, great, question, they were certainly around during.

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Speaker 1: D It'd be similar to the Italian mafia in America,

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same time frame.

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Speaker 2: It says, seventeenth century Japan.

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Speaker 1: Shit, they've been around a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they really. I think I read before

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that they really they were already, you know, a thing,

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but I mean like the Sicilian mafia predates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh the old country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were already a thing, certainly, But I read

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that in post war Japan they really started bucking, like

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they really started to flourish in the sort of lawless,

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rubble filled country.

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Speaker 1: What was I guess their prohibition that ignited their rise,

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because the Italian mafia in America doesn't really do their

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thing unless there's prohibition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, prohibition took them to another level. Certainly, they were

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around and they were doing stuff, but they're you know,

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they're on Dago Hill and Saint Louis and things of

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that nature.

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Speaker 1: But it's a real name, uh in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But again, the Japanese like a huge black market

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pops up after World War two because of the lack

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of supplies, the lack of infrastructure, the lack of who

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the fuck is in charge other than the Americans. So

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them being the only like remotely standing system of like

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organized group of Japanese people after the war, I think

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helped them a lot. That's off the dome, so there

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could be wrong, but I believe that's roughly in the ballpark.

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So in some Japanese units, the cannibalization became normalized, with

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soldiers harvesting specific parts of enemy soldiers like live thighs

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and even brains. So this is the story of I think.

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Speaker 1: What's like the horrific Unit seven.

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Speaker 2: Unit seven thirty one thirty one. So we get into

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a that was not the only group that did that stuff,

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and we're going to get into to one of them.

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Speaker 1: But they did a lot of war crimes. Oh, they

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better documented.

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Speaker 2: Nothing but war crimes. Yeah, and we gave we let

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them all off so that we could take the data. Yeah, God,

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what does an anthrax candy bar do to a Chinese

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eight year old? That's important to know, said Harry S. Truman.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we could have gotten that info and

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still executed all of them. I know, doesn't seem like

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it's a fair trade.

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Speaker 2: Or Also, you would think that one American doctor would

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be like, what does it do? What do you think

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it does?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it kills them immediately.

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Speaker 2: What do you what else do you need to know?

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Were you planning on doing this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? If you just throw a baby up into the

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air and you catch it with a bayonet, what will happen?

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Speaker 2: Science? Science, So we're gonna start with the Chichi Jima incident.

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This is Bush's incident in the Bonin Islands between September

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and October nineteen forty four.

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Speaker 1: You're just doing this because you love HW.

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Speaker 2: I do? I do like HW. I think he's one

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of the most underrated presidents of the last fifty years.

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Speaker 1: He will be exposed soon enough. I don't think the

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Bushes were well, W was W's not No, W's just

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chilling W.

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Speaker 2: Look, he wasn't a good president.

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Speaker 1: And Dick Cheney. We're just doing it for the love

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of the game.

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Speaker 2: I won't I can't comment on Dick Cheney, but like

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w not a good president, but like clearly a good dude.

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Speaker 1: Should have been the baseball commissioner.

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Speaker 2: He should have been.

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Speaker 1: That's what he was meant to be.

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Speaker 2: It truly was, and it's a shame as a baseball

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fan that we didn't get George W. Bush as the

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commissioner of baseball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now I'll just paint so Chichi Jima.

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Speaker 2: They were, they were attacking this island. There was a

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key radio station there in the Bonan Islands. There were

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a bunch of Navy raids air raids in nineteen forty four.

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They're trying to take it out because it was again

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big communication hub, trying to fuck up the Japanese infrastructure.

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And nine airmen flying grumming TBF Avengers, which I think

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is like a sort of like a fighter bomber. It's

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not like a it's not like a big like flying

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fortress or like what you would think of like a

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four engine or or two engine bomber. It looks more

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like a fighter plane, I believe. But they were shot

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down peep pew by anti aircraft fire.

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Speaker 1: It's exactly what it sounded like to Pepoo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a torpedo bomber, but it looks it's like

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a stupid kind of maybe I don't know, you out

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of your depth. Yeah, but what I'm saying is it

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doesn't look well. When people think World War two bomber,

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they immediately go to like Masters of the Sky or

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Air or whatever the fuck that shows.

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Speaker 1: SELVM watch it.

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Speaker 2: It gets good.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's good.

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Speaker 2: Also, there's a guy in that show who I think

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should be the next Bond. I do not think it

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should be JACOBILORDI. I think he should be Calum Turner.

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Speaker 1: Nohan thinks it's gonna be Jacob e LORDI that.

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Speaker 2: He's been getting a lot of press.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Aaron Taylor Johnson.

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Speaker 2: No, and needs to be Calum Turner. Calum Turner has

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is number one with the bullet and he's in He's

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in that show. He's great. So nine guys are shot

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down and parachute Lieutenant George H. W. Bush's torpedo bomber

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was hit by an aircraft fire. His plane caught fire,

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but he managed to complete his mission. He got his

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load out and uh and he bailed out over the

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ocean and inflated his life.

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Speaker 1: Raft seems like a weird spot to jack off.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Combat Jack, that's totally normal. Do

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we ever ask Jack if he did it? Did that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he jacked off all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: War, he said, dudes would just be cranking it left

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and right.

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Speaker 2: He's oh yeah. He said he caught one guy cranking

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it in his in the armored vehicle and he was mad.

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Speaker 1: There's only so much space.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you leave enough room when you take a shit,

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but nobody cares if you jack off in their spot.

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Speaker 2: It's just a load. You just stamp that into the ground.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's a hand when you're in war, everyone's a hand.

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Speaker 2: So Bush's survival was like pure, truly pure luck. He

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was somehow unseen and just floated away in the ocean.

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He was a drift for four hours before he was

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saved by the submarine, the USS finback, the eight other

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down Americans.

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Speaker 1: The finback just sounds like a slurlur.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like hear me out. If dolphins got

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super intelligent.

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Speaker 1: Finback, goddamn finback. Yeah, if they took over the town

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like in the Simpsons, yes, yeah, these fucking fucking finbacks everywhere. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the eight other American airman who got shot down

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not so lucky. They were captured by Japanese forces under

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Lieutenant General Yoshio Tachibana. Sometimes Japanese names are pretty easy

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phonetically the Chinese.

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Speaker 1: Are, but you gotta put that Japanese spice on Iturebana.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, uh. These men were tortured and all executed,

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probably beheaded. At least four of them had their livers

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and other body parts eaten by Japanese officers in a

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form of ritualistic cannibalism, because the Japanese believed the liver

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specifically would grant them strength.

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Speaker 1: How did that work though? Was it tabal or another god,

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another entity, even though the emperor believed he was god,

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just for the emperor. Okay, so there's just eating it

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for the emperor.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was partly for revenge, but partly they thought

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that they thought that the liver was like partly medicinal,

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like it was good to eat human liver, and you

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know you're not gonna do your own guys, So and

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then there was a bit of it was a bit

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of revenge to it too, like fuck, you for prominence.

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We're gonna eat you. Yeah. The livers and other body

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parts were cooked with soy sauce and vegetables, so it

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was a traditional Japanese meal.

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Speaker 1: Human apparently tastes a lot like pork long pig. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I saw a conspiracy video at the reason Jews and

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Muslims don't.

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Speaker 1: Eat pigs because they think that the human soul that's

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lost goes to a pig, because these pigs have like

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human I like guys.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I thought it was. You might be right, but

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my memory of the real that I watched was it

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was like they were like an offshoot of humanity, essentially,

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like at some point they bred themselves into being pigs.

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Speaker 1: The human pig.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they those cultures had a memory of that,

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and they won't eat pork.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, I'm making a human pick coppers.

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Speaker 2: They might be right, you know what, if it's for

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organ transplants, I don't care. Let the freaks, let the

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I feel guilty and big now why I mean they

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are they're tasty, but I'm actually not a huge pork guy.

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I'm a little out on bacon.

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Speaker 1: I like all pork products except ham. I hate a

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honey baked tam. Dude, I don't know why everything else

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hits bacon. Pulled pork.

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Speaker 2: Still like pulled pork. I'm kind of over bacon.

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Speaker 1: You're just trying to be different. No, I'm just a

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little over it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, pork chops are the right type of pork. Still great.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Honey baked tam just doesn't hit the

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sam as the other pork products.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Did you eat a lot as a kid?

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Speaker 1: No. It was my last meal before I showed symptoms

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of crones disease, though, so I might actually align my

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Cron's disease with the last time I ate ham.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Although there is actually a lot of pork

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products as still because basically every Italian meat, like Italian

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deli meats.

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Speaker 1: All the sausages too. Yeah, a good pork sausage.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So. Japanese testimonies during the nineteen forty six

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Guam War criminal trials revealed that the uh.

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Speaker 1: The only thing we've ever done at Guam.

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Speaker 2: I think we have a battle there.

473
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's such a useless island. It's not even pretty.

474
00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:29,279
Speaker 2: It's there to launch airplanes.

475
00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: It's gross.

476
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: It's there to launch airplanes off of in refuel ships.

477
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,319
Speaker 1: It's not Fiji, No, No, certainly not. No.

478
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:39,759
Speaker 2: American Samoa doesn't seem much better, although that island might

479
00:23:39,799 --> 00:23:41,000
be beautiful, but we just like.

480
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,039
Speaker 1: Do we're just scooping up all these bad islands.

481
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 2: They're not bad, they're useful.

482
00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:49,839
Speaker 1: Find more useful islands that are still pretty like Hawaii.

483
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the reason why I have Hawaii.

484
00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: Why is awesome?

485
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: It's useful as.

486
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,839
Speaker 1: The best place on earth?

487
00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:57,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of is.

488
00:23:57,839 --> 00:23:58,519
Speaker 1: It's perfect.

489
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

490
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:05,039
Speaker 1: I was there for like nine days. It was incredible.

491
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,599
Speaker 2: It's literal paradise.

492
00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: The weather was pristine.

493
00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:11,279
Speaker 2: It's a little hot.

494
00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't that hot? Grant was December, but.

495
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: I was there in November. Yeah, both times the winter

496
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:26,079
actually so. Vice Admiral moriy Kuniso commanded the chichi Jima

497
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,039
Air Base, and he was particularly of the belief that

498
00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:34,079
the liver had medicinal benefits. So he was like, yeah, boys,

499
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,839
you get any pilots, chop them up, Yeah, chop them up.

500
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,599
That's medicine.

501
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,279
Speaker 1: Eastern medicine is a little different, and apparently they probably

502
00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:46,000
thought it like brought fertility as well.

503
00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: Well. One of the things they thought too, is that

504
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,359
it brought them the strength of their vanquished enemies.

505
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: Get all that tea.

506
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had a couple of weird beliefs about that.

507
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:58,839
Speaker 1: Prove them wrong.

508
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: Guess I can't, I personally can't. I have to get

509
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,480
a scientist.

510
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: I think you're afraid to eat other humans because you're

511
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:11,519
afraid of how much you all enjoy it. Vampire like you.

512
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,759
Speaker 2: I did once look how pale you are? Yeah, I

513
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:19,720
know one time in a in the most Mexican hub

514
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:22,559
in the city, I was walking through and a little

515
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:25,640
Mexican girl looks up at me. She must have been five.

516
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,160
This is completely true story. She's with her mom. She

517
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,279
looks up at me with my dark hair and my

518
00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:33,440
pale skin, and she goes simpio.

519
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I did not adjust for me to have

520
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,599
a warmer color balance on the cameras. We have the

521
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,240
exact same.

522
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: I feel like, this doesn't this doesn't even look bad.

523
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,240
I feel pretty good about the skin tone right now

524
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,039
on YouTube.

525
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:55,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, whider than it appears in camera. Yeah, yeah,

526
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,279
I'm blind.

527
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: This was also the cannibalism tended to be an act

528
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,680
to build unit cohesion, kind of like we're all we're

529
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,440
all doing the worst thing possible together. We're yeah, brotherhood,

530
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:13,480
We're just in it, just in it together.

531
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: That's why they all did it. Epstein's silent too.

532
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:20,039
Speaker 2: You can't yeah, when everyone's got dirt on each other,

533
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,119
it's a yeah, it's a it's a Mexican standoff of

534
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,079
horrible secrets. That's all they get, you usually assured destruction.

535
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:35,400
They also did it to uh instill fearlessness in their troops,

536
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,960
so like they did psychological warfare against the enemy, but

537
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,279
they also did it for themselves to be like, look, man,

538
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,400
what do you have to be afraid of anymore? You

539
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,160
already did the worst fucking thing you can do.

540
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: It's really only psychological warfare. If they're chomping on a

541
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:51,599
leg like it's turkey in front of a US soldier,

542
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,559
we'll get to that, okay, just like that at a

543
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:58,000
ren fare, Yeah, being a human leg, we will get

544
00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:03,559
to that, chopping on it to the bone.

545
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: And then they also believed that it gave soldiers nerves

546
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,640
of steel. And again when they did this at Chichijima.

547
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: How high were they though? Were they all gassed up

548
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,960
on some type of myth you.

549
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: Don't need on meth though you don't need on meth.

550
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,960
But I guess you're like mentally fucked up.

551
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can eat human on methy. Yeah yeah,

552
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,240
it seems like the only time you would eat human.

553
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: I am actually not. Baths were about what the Japanese were.

554
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: On, yeah, because Germans were all jacked up on. I

555
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,799
think it was called the p Perivian yeah, yeah, yeah

556
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,279
or something. Yes, it was a meth pill.

557
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's an amphetamine. So after the war, this

558
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,599
incident gets brought up in the Guam War trials. But

559
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,519
military and international law didn't really have a law about cannibal.

560
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,039
Speaker 1: They didn't think they had to write it in.

561
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: Right, They had no point foresaw that punitive cannibalism would

562
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,119
be something they needed to make a law about.

563
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:12,519
Speaker 1: Like who was the last army to actually eat other

564
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,000
armies for effect? Right? Not out of necessity, right right?

565
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,799
Not like oh we're starving, we're out of resources.

566
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, plenty of armies have done that. I don't know

567
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,400
any army off the top of my head that did

568
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,440
it to fuck with their enemy. So yeah, they didn't

569
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,640
even think to write it. They were like, why would

570
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,880
we have to make a law about this? Whyould we

571
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,200
possibly have to waste three days writing all these law.

572
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:40,759
We're writing all these laws that we have to waste

573
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:43,079
like three days a week working on a cannibal.

574
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:45,119
Speaker 1: Law because they assume everyone that's fight in a war

575
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,880
is still in fact a human being.

576
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: Right, which I think the Japanese.

577
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: I think we revoked that status from anybody that participated

578
00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,000
in Unit seven thirty one. Yeah.

579
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this wasn't Unit seven thirty one by way, right.

580
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,079
This was an average Joe Japanese unit on a random island.

581
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:07,359
This was not some crazy special Forces unit. This was

582
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,400
not some crazy medical experimentation unit. These were gi Japanese

583
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Joe's just on the isle. This was essentially the equivalent

584
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,160
of your grandpa in World War Two. But they're Japanese,

585
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:21,720
just normal guys.

586
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: They're just working a fishing boat four years before.

587
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Right. So, of the thirty Japanese soldiers prosecuted for this,

588
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:32,880
four officers were found guilty and hanged.

589
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: Listen, there's a reason we had to new com twice.

590
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,319
Speaker 2: Make sure they're down, because they.

591
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: Weren't gonna admit defeat after one.

592
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't think they were at all. The more you

593
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,599
the more you learn about the Japanese in World War Two.

594
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,279
The more you're just like, there's nothing bad enough for them,

595
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,720
there's nothing bad enough for them, right will It's it's

596
00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:59,359
like my life's mission to be like, did you know

597
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,440
the Japanese were every bit as bad as.

598
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: But now they're kind of like one of our greatest allies.

599
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,920
I know we nuked them into submits, but like, here's the.

600
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: Thing, man, this could have been something that like showy

601
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:13,039
O Tani's grandpa was doing.

602
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you forget about those war crimes when

603
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,279
he's hitting dingers, When.

604
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: He's striking out ten and hitting three homers in an LCS.

605
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: Game, I forgive Japan for everything after that. It's just

606
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,079
although he's on the Dodgers now, so maybe not.

607
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: It's annoying, no, yeah, but it's still.

608
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm in all.

609
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:37,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. All the enlisted men were released after eight years.

610
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:42,759
In one US report just from New Guinea, which was nearby,

611
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:46,400
an American soldier's mutilated body was found near a Japanese

612
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,240
bunker with a stewpot containing a human sized heart and liver.

613
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:52,680
So they were finding these things everywhere.

614
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: Not don't want to waste any body part.

615
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,599
Speaker 2: It wasn't like, it wasn't like it happened one hundred

616
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,400
thousand times, but it might have happened like ten thousand times,

617
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,039
like truly, like we have one hundred recorded incidents. But again,

618
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,400
my main piece of evidence that this was quite a

619
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,559
bit more pervasive than even people think. It's just that

620
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,119
you don't send out an order to like five million

621
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,599
people to stop doing.

622
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: Something if it's only been none five times, right, right,

623
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:24,000
You maybe talk to somebody like, hey, here's a stern

624
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,720
talking to don't eat people.

625
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: You gotta think there are other dudes in the Japanese

626
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:31,240
army too that were like, what.

627
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: Why am I getting this? Yeah? What they mail us today? Yeah,

628
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:41,519
an apartment complex sends kind of a site wide email

629
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,079
about a specific issue, and you're like, what who the

630
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:45,640
fuck did that?

631
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: Right? Please stop opening your butthole over the sprinklers right

632
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:54,839
before they pop up out of the ground. You're like, whoo,

633
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:57,079
how often does this happen?

634
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:02,079
Speaker 1: But that's oddly specific? Yeah, just addressed the one person.

635
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,759
Speaker 2: Like unless it's not just sol of them, right, it's

636
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,119
all of us. There's a dozen people doing it. The

637
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,160
next one and this one is the one that's.

638
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: Well, they don't have the days here, that's fair.

639
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: Enough.

640
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,599
Speaker 1: So a couple of Europeans live here. They want to

641
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,920
live a life of luxury. You go to the sprinkler's

642
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,480
house side.

643
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: They get scrappy.

644
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

645
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: Uh, this one, this next one is the unit. It's

646
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:28,680
that it's not Unit seven thirty one. So it wasn't

647
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,559
only Unit seven thirty one doing this. This is another exactly.

648
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: Apparently all of this is just not Unit seven thirty one.

649
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: So none of none, nothing in this episode continue is

650
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,720
Unit seven thirty one. So this is the Kyushu vivisections

651
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:42,799
and cannibalism that happened between May and June of nineteen

652
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,079
forty five, late in the game. Late in the game,

653
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:49,000
we were bombing the shit out of Japan on May fifth, nineteen.

654
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,079
Speaker 1: You sure they weren't desperate.

655
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Yes, every single they had food. Every single one of

656
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,440
these recorded instances that I used were when they had food.

657
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: I want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

658
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:04,720
But why it's not why, I don't know, Just because

659
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:08,440
I believe in humanity and there's no way you cross

660
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,079
this line unless it's absolutely necessary.

661
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,359
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it's already been shown in the first one

662
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:16,319
that it wasn't necessary. Okay, they just did it anyway,

663
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,680
I wanted to eat George Bush.

664
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: It might be a better one if the HW, how

665
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:29,240
dare you thought it? Wars would have been prevented? Just kidding,

666
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,759
somebody else would have done it. Yeah, he's just a suit,

667
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:34,319
just a guy. It's just a guy.

668
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: So multiple May fifth nine point five, multiple b twenty

669
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:38,839
nine bombers.

670
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,799
Speaker 1: Even though HW was in charge of intelligence. I don't

671
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:46,480
worry about it. Shitty stuff he did, I don't worry

672
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:46,839
about it.

673
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:49,559
Speaker 2: Great president, let's.

674
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: He I mean the nineties were okay, I spose he.

675
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,079
Speaker 2: I will say this, and I don't know everything about George,

676
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,480
but but in terms of foreign policy, he just stuck

677
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:01,079
to landing so hard that it's like incredible to even fathom.

678
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:05,519
Like the Soviet Union falls and nothing bad happens immediately

679
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:07,279
after term.

680
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: So it went over the American population as Ross Parro's fault.

681
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,320
You can't be blaming a third party that one, you can.

682
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: It's a joke.

683
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,199
Speaker 1: You're unserious.

684
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,639
Speaker 2: That hit literally swung the election.

685
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,159
Speaker 1: You're unserious. It only taken down by Ross Perot.

686
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: He only took votes from Bush. It's crazy that it

687
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,400
even that the America was even Like, yeah, but I

688
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,480
don't know, it'd been twelve years of Reaganite Republicans, so

689
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,800
I think they were just like fuck it.

690
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

691
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: So multiple B twenty nine's targeted the Tachiarii air Base

692
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,400
in Kayoshu, Japan, and on Kayoshu, which is Japan's southernmost

693
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,599
main island. One B twenty nine, commanded by Lieutenant Marvin Watkins,

694
00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:01,920
was hit in mid air by a Japanese Kamakazi plane.

695
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,079
They weren't just ramming boats.

696
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: The plane in the plane.

697
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:11,559
Speaker 2: Rammed into their B twenty nine, and about a dozen

698
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:16,960
people parachuted from the flaming aircraft. According to observers, probably

699
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,079
other planes, not like other bombers.

700
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: So imagine they were going the same way and they

701
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,840
just kind of sideswiped them.

702
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:25,559
Speaker 2: Or they came in from above, who knows, but yeah,

703
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,639
they the Japanese plane came in and just cracked.

704
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: It was a head on collision. I feel like, boom,

705
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,400
ain't no time to parachute out.

706
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:36,039
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's just your wreck and the whole plane. Yeah.

707
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,199
I think it just kind of he clipped them or

708
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,320
something and it was enough time for them to bail out.

709
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:49,239
Several of the airmen in the plane died basically immediately

710
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,000
immediately upon landing one I think his parachute didn't work,

711
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:58,199
like the cords broke unfortunately. Yeah, another one got to

712
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,599
the ground. I think he fought off a few people,

713
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:05,480
but then he had one bullet left and was like nope,

714
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,360
took into the nome, blew his brains out. He was like,

715
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:11,000
I've heard plenty of stories at this point about what

716
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:13,320
the Japanese do to prisoners. Probably don't even know about

717
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,280
the eating, but he was just like, I am not

718
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,039
getting taken prisoner. Blew his brains out. And then at

719
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:21,800
least two were stabbed or beaten or shot to death

720
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:25,760
by either Japanese captors or just like local civilians who

721
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,320
were like, fuck these guys who were alighting all our

722
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,280
cities on fire, let's kill him. But somewhere between nine

723
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,519
and eleven crew members survived the crash, never forget, and

724
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:40,679
were captured by the Japanese, and the captives were of

725
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,199
course had the ship beat out of them because they

726
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:49,039
hated the bombing crews especially, they didn't know what to

727
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,079
do with them for a minute, so a military doctor

728
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,679
and a colonel from a local regiment decided, let's use

729
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,440
the prisoners for medical experiments. You know, it'll cost too

730
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:05,039
much to feed them and shit, so let's just let's

731
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:06,679
just do experiments on Let's do science on them.

732
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're thankful for their sacrifice. We uncovered so

733
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,519
many things.

734
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: There was one airman who escaped this fate, the captain

735
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:21,599
of the commander of the plane, Marvin Watkins. He was

736
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,199
taken away from the unit and sent to Tokyo for interrogation.

737
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,840
He was still tortured and everything, but he did survive

738
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:27,719
the war.

739
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: And he gets a chill in Tokyo.

740
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's chilling.

741
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:37,039
Speaker 1: Chilling in Tokyo. Tokyo is better than the Jungles.

742
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: It's better than where the rest of his crew went.

743
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:45,119
So they transferred. The other eight airmen were transferred to

744
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,400
Kyushu University's medical school and the faculty, and to the

745
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,519
faculty for surgical experiments. Highly regarded school or it doesn't

746
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:57,079
you know they think outside the box.

747
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: There be sweet if like it's their Harvard World War two.

748
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,239
Fdr just sends a bunch of Japanese Americans to Harvard

749
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,360
to be experimented on.

750
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: He's just like cut off that feet and see what happens.

751
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: University of Pennsylvania uncovered you cannot inject a Japanese man

752
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,639
with this amount of heroin.

753
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,159
Speaker 2: It seems the average Japanese man can take only eight

754
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,440
ounces of heroin.

755
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: He starts to convulse.

756
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:31,599
Speaker 2: Mean, this knowledge is useful.

757
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: We have it now, and he chokes on his vomit. Great, dude,

758
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,639
unless you turn him over.

759
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,639
Speaker 2: Which we did not, so you gotta let it play out.

760
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:48,199
They immediately just start cutting these guys open. They'll bring it.

761
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,719
They'll bring them into surgery rooms and stuff like that.

762
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:59,960
They rarely had enough or any anesthesia, so the victims

763
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:05,760
were conscious while this was happening. They conducted the experiments

764
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,440
to test surgical techniques and also just like the human

765
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,280
response to having your lung pulled.

766
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:17,159
Speaker 1: Out, Sure we needed that info.

767
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,119
Speaker 2: I guess it's useful for there were there were no controls.

768
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,519
There was no like, there was no like ab testing

769
00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:27,920
it again, you know what I mean, Like it was

770
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,280
just like, all right, let's cut out his do alive. Yeah,

771
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:33,920
see what happens. A lot of these took place in

772
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,440
the university's operating theater, so like you know, there's an

773
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,360
operating room and then above it there's just like bleachers

774
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,639
like in Seinfeld when he drops of Junior Mint into

775
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:43,599
the spectacle.

776
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their Breton circus. So one baseball hadn't made

777
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,239
it over there yet.

778
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: It had, but no one airman.

779
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

780
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: He was the first victim, Teddy Ponska something Polish, I

781
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,079
don't know. Under only partial sedation. Surgeons removed guy. I

782
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,639
know this, poor guy. I don't even know his fucking name.

783
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:11,719
I mean, I know it, I can't say it, Ponska.

784
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: I will not live in Coco verse because he didn't

785
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,599
get his name right.

786
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had his lung cut out for nothing. He

787
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:21,840
was only partially sedated. And again, like I said, surgeons

788
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,119
just cut out, took out his lung. They wanted to

789
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:26,239
see how it would affect the respiratory system.

790
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,039
Speaker 1: Gave him partial sedation.

791
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just like that. That's the idea. They're like,

792
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,119
I wonder what would happen to his breathing if we

793
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:33,519
took one of the lungs away?

794
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: What he is gonna the other one work really harder? Yeah,

795
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,360
it's gonna get worse, you assholes.

796
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,639
Speaker 2: What do you think? And then at one point they

797
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:48,920
operated on him again, and the surgeon U Taro Tosu,

798
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,400
just like reached in and like with his hand just

799
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,280
like stopped his heart.

800
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I thank these Japanese doctors because without these experiments,

801
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,039
my dad at the University of Pennsylvania doesn't get his

802
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,119
lung transplant from a Japanese man.

803
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,079
Speaker 2: What did we learn?

804
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,519
Speaker 1: The Japanese doctor did it. He's highly regarded. Don't remember

805
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:14,800
his name, But now my dad's been alive for five years. Wow,

806
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,119
because of probably this guy's sacrificed.

807
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,159
Speaker 2: Maybe Teddy saved him.

808
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: So no, I mean, they figured out all the lung

809
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:24,039
trip ups.

810
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:26,159
Speaker 2: We figured out all the wrong ways to do it.

811
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: And then you know, he learned this knowledge over in Japan,

812
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,320
came over to America to work at U penn and

813
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,679
now you know he did a transplant on my dad.

814
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: Happy for your dad.

815
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,079
Speaker 1: I think it was like Yokamoto sounds right.

816
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just he probably learned from the guys,

817
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,039
you know what I mean?

818
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:47,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously he wasn't there, right, wasn't that old, right,

819
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,719
But that knowledge was passed down to him by these

820
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,280
So in an indirect way, they kind of saved my

821
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,039
dad's life.

822
00:41:57,559 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: We salute you.

823
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:04,639
Speaker 1: Who's the real hitler of the episode, Rob from blaming them.

824
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: Another experiment that all eight of the victims had to

825
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,960
undergo was they just injected them with sea water.

826
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: Why not, I'm sure salt water's good for you.

827
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: They wanted to see if it was a decent substitute

828
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,800
for saline, like sterile saline.

829
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: Was it not?

830
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: It was not? No, and Ponska bled to death during that.

831
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:28,159
He actually the long thing didn't kill him.

832
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: Did they not believe in experimenting with rats or like

833
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,559
working their way up to humans?

834
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess not. Why if you have a I

835
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,320
guess if you have a free human, why bother with them?

836
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: So I probably considered us rats at some degree.

837
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,559
Speaker 2: That's also a serious possibility. They would draw holes into

838
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:47,880
the skulls and small brain sections would be removed to

839
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,199
study epilepsy and stuff like that. They forgot to write

840
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:53,280
most of it down though.

841
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: Well that was just like a religious thing over there too, right.

842
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,840
Didn't Jake do an episode in about Japanese cults that

843
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:00,960
like drilled a hole in their head?

844
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:03,679
Speaker 2: Was that was that Japanese? I think it was Japanese, Okay,

845
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,440
I couldn't remember.

846
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,039
Speaker 1: Could could be mixing two stories together, but there was

847
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:09,840
definitely a cult that drilled holes and heads.

848
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,039
Speaker 2: There was I do remember doing that episode, and I

849
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:15,480
do think it was in the under the guise of

850
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,159
like Eastern medicine. At the end of all of this,

851
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,639
there were reports that several of the experimenters doctors or

852
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:31,280
whomever uh took the livers of at least one victim

853
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,000
and had a little dinner party with it to celebrate

854
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:35,480
the end of their experiments.

855
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever eaten liver just in general.

856
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,519
Speaker 2: Have you had pate?

857
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: No?

858
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:42,159
Speaker 2: You never had.

859
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,559
Speaker 1: Like I thought liver was gonna be more prevalent in

860
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:47,599
my life because of the show Dug. Yeah, liver and

861
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:51,159
onions they had every fucking meal. Yeah, but yeah, I don't.

862
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,360
I've never encountered liver on a menu.

863
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: Just pata pat is the only liver I've eaten regularly?

864
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:00,320
Is that?

865
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:00,519
Speaker 1: Like?

866
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: How do they prepare that it's expreadable meat? Okay, you

867
00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:06,440
probably have had pete?

868
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,599
Speaker 1: Probably not. I don't just dive into spreads.

869
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:15,519
Speaker 2: Have you had brunch faga, No, No, that's that's liver. No,

870
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,519
you never had a brunchwoger sandwich. No, that's good. I

871
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:23,800
loved it when I was a kid. The party allegedly

872
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,960
took place June third, nineteen forty five, uh, just a

873
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:32,039
day after the final vivisection. Historians speculate it was like

874
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,519
in an informal gathering among the doctors and staff. Again,

875
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:38,320
like I said, to celebrate, there was either one liver

876
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:45,599
or multiple livers. Now, it's not totally corroborated, but obviously.

877
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,599
Speaker 1: For the sake of the show, it's just more entertaining

878
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,239
if we go with it.

879
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: It's well within the realm of possibility. Yeah, and I

880
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,559
think they did it.

881
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:58,639
Speaker 1: Whenever I come across something in my research and it's

882
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,760
like many historians dispute this, I ignore that, Yeah, because

883
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,039
I'm like, this makes the story better. Yes, why would

884
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:05,639
I ignore that?

885
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: I also just it's completely plausible. And essentially the reason

886
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,000
it's not corroborated is because when these people were prosecuted

887
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,039
after the war, that was one of the charges. But

888
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,880
like the their defense attorney, who was also an American

889
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,719
by the way, was just like, there's no fucking evidence

890
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,119
for this, it's all wit in his testimony, and one

891
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:28,239
guy was like, one guy admitted to it, but said

892
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,679
he was coerced into admitting to it. And essentially the

893
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:34,599
prosecutors were like, well, fuck it, we know for sure

894
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:37,239
that they cut open eight American soldiers. I guess we

895
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,519
don't need the cannibalism charge to get them in jail

896
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:40,480
for the rest of their lives.

897
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, go for the lesser charge. It'll stick.

898
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: Right. They had what they had. They didn't bother with

899
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,760
it because they had harder evidence for the other stuff.

900
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,840
Of the thirty defendants, twenty three were convicted on vivisection charges.

901
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,480
They were five. There were five death sentences, four life sentences,

902
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:04,400
and fourteen shorter sentences. All of the sentences from the

903
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,079
death sentences to the lesser sentences were commuted in nineteen

904
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:11,639
fifty by General Douglas MacArthur in the middle of the

905
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:17,320
Korean War. Motherfucker, I guess because they just he was busy,

906
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,239
so he was like, dude, fuck it, fuck it.

907
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: It was Japan's rolling the Korean War.

908
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they put many troops in, but they

909
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,679
were certainly going to help us a little bit, very

910
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:31,280
important staging area. All of our shit went through Japan. Yeah, sure,

911
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:33,800
we owned it basically.

912
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Well, I know, we've rebuilt the railroads, ironically, we rebuilt everything. Yeah,

913
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,280
now they have all the best high speed trains and tech.

914
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did that. You're welcome. We won't do it.

915
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,199
Speaker 1: He can't do it here. No, there's just no way, No,

916
00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:49,199
how could we.

917
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: It's too hard, too big. So the last one, even

918
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,159
though Japan's massive, Yeah, the last one. This is the

919
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:01,079
gnarliest one. It didn't happen to Americans, but it did

920
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:05,159
happen to Allied soldiers, and it is. It's a good

921
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:10,840
time in Borneo. The Sonda Con pow camp and death

922
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,440
marches between nineteen forty four and nineteen forty five saw

923
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:18,280
quite a bit of human eating on the part of

924
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,280
the Japanese. This pow camp was initially set up to

925
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:31,880
make Allied POWs, mostly Australian and British boy Oi, I

926
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,840
don't want to do don't eat me? I eat me?

927
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

928
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: Do I want to be eaten? They were used as

929
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,079
slave labor the POWs. Essentially, they were building a military

930
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:45,559
airfield near the town. It was a strategic refueling point

931
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:49,039
for Japanese aircraft, so they used the POW's as slaves

932
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:55,519
to build the airfield. As the Allies closed in in

933
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:59,679
nineteen forty four, they destroyed the airfield with bombing runs

934
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:03,280
Andjapanese commanders were like, fuck, dude, they're gonna get here soon,

935
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:06,760
and we don't really want them to have their POW's back.

936
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,840
Good bargaining chip, great slaves.

937
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:14,679
Speaker 1: We got to keep them, so be really fucked up

938
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,480
if they did these death marches. But it was only

939
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:19,599
for Native American soldiers.

940
00:48:20,199 --> 00:48:21,519
Speaker 2: Everyone else that get to hang out.

941
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,679
Speaker 1: They just really knew their history with the Trail Tears.

942
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: You'll survive it.

943
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: You've done it before, all you win talkers.

944
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,599
Speaker 2: Let's go so and I look like a nip. It's

945
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:41,800
the worst line in film history, Like the worst line. No,

946
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,280
you don't, and they'll know immediately.

947
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna do like a racial slur and say

948
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,360
eat my baby, like it didn't go eat my baby

949
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:53,079
when you did the Aussie accent. But I passed it. Yeah,

950
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,559
you got the nip in though.

951
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: I did. It sounds worse until you remember the Japanese

952
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,360
on their island Nippon. So it's to me it's like

953
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,599
brit But I guess it was a slur. But either way,

954
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,599
it's a line from the movie Wind Talkers.

955
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:17,119
Speaker 1: I leave the Japanese slurs to Clint Eastwood in Grantina. Yeah, yeah, yeah, were.

956
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: They even Japanese. Was there a single Japanese like.

957
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: Character in that way in Detroit?

958
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,639
Speaker 2: Hard to say no, But weren't they Korean or something?

959
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: I think they were. But you kind of grip everyone

960
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,880
together when you're old.

961
00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: He does, certainly he was in Korea. So the camp

962
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,960
was evacuated in nineteen forty five. The POWs were made

963
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,679
to go on a series of three death marches. The

964
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,519
survivors were taken inland about one hundred and sixty miles

965
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:49,079
through dense jungle. POWs were obviously forced to carry all

966
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:53,159
the heavy loads, including Japanese supplies. This despite the fact

967
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:57,519
that they were completely malnourished and barely getting fed by

968
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:02,000
the end of the war. Out of about twenty four

969
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:07,360
hundred people who were at this pow camp, six survived.

970
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:13,280
It's probably, I mean, it was a near one hundred

971
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,760
percent fatality rate. It was certainly the worst thing that

972
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,639
happened to Australia.

973
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: Just said six survive. It's not one hundred.

974
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:24,519
Speaker 2: Percent, said nearly one hundred percent. So these death marches

975
00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:32,960
heavily featured cannibalism, both because the Japanese were trying to

976
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,519
fuck with their prisoners to make sure nobody tried anything.

977
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:40,039
And also because again they had they had food, the

978
00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:43,719
Japanese did. They just wanted They were just sick fucks

979
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,159
at that point, like they were just like they were

980
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:48,159
like Danny McBride and this is the end, you know

981
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:49,480
what I mean. They were just like, dude, fuck it,

982
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,239
we're cannibals now, like the world's ending. We're cannibals now.

983
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,920
Fuck it. Well, let's just go full villain mode. Let's

984
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,840
just go full evil. We didn't give a shit.

985
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,519
Speaker 1: Now. Did the prisoners at each other as well?

986
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:03,199
Speaker 2: No, not, to my knowledge, were forced to.

987
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: I always wondered, with the Holocaust and the concentration camps,

988
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,679
if some of the Jewish prisoners got desperate enough that

989
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,280
they had each other.

990
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: Probably, probably it probably happened. I would be, it would be.

991
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,320
It would be impossible to rule that out right.

992
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: There has to be documentation of that.

993
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:26,199
Speaker 2: Even if there isn't to say it happened to zero

994
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,280
times in a time when people were starving and desperate,

995
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:33,800
somebody did it. I don't, but I don't blame them

996
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,960
unless they murdered the person to do it.

997
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: Right, Well, you need you know, somebody croaks, they die,

998
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,440
you gotta cook them up. Pretty quick.

999
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:46,519
Speaker 2: Real, it's not good meat before the meat gets spoiled. Yeah,

1000
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:48,639
it's not good meat. Like if you saw your steak

1001
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,039
right before it was slaughtered and it was like a

1002
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:58,559
cow that was just like just like some malnourished like

1003
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:07,159
her like labored breathing. You're like, I I'll just have

1004
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,679
this caesar salad. Think I'm good. Think I'm good on

1005
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:11,199
that cow?

1006
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,679
Speaker 1: What's the caesar salad in this situation?

1007
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 2: For the Holocaust jungle leaves, Oh, for the Holocaust grass,

1008
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,320
I guess that'll fuck it?

1009
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: Know.

1010
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:26,639
Speaker 2: Uh So the cannibalism on these marches again, the Japanese

1011
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:28,800
did not need to do it. They were just going

1012
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,800
full damn mcbriden and this is the end, just like, hah,

1013
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,800
fuck it, it's the end of the world. We're fucking cannibals.

1014
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,039
Speaker 1: Just watch that movie. No, okay, it's just.

1015
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,679
Speaker 2: A perfect example to me, like because he literally just

1016
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,039
pops out and he goes, yeah, what's up with cannibals? Now?

1017
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,079
Speaker 1: I saw that in theaters. I don't remember it very well. Okay,

1018
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,880
it's been a while, it's been over a decade.

1019
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: It's the same scene where he talks about how uh

1020
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,039
Channing Tatum is his gimp, gotcha?

1021
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: I know it's on Netflix, I think so. I was like,

1022
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,159
he must have just watched it.

1023
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,159
Speaker 2: No, no, I haven't seen it.

1024
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: Well, well i'm fresh on the brain.

1025
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: That seen is fresh in the brain, because I probably

1026
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,400
watched that YouTube clip like a week or two ago.

1027
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,119
But the movie as a whole.

1028
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: No.

1029
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: So again, this was not due to hunger, or at

1030
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,480
least not solely to hunger. It was often ordered by

1031
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:20,039
officers to fuck with the prisoners, and it involved both

1032
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:30,960
dead and living victims. Guards began first eating dead POWs,

1033
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:37,119
bodies of people who died from disease or beatings. You know.

1034
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,039
They butchered them up, ate them, cooked them in mess

1035
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:43,559
pots and ate them in front, cooked them and ate

1036
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:48,480
them in front of the other POWs. I guess the

1037
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:51,280
Japanese did start with not the POWs, but then they

1038
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,840
were like, dude, fuck these guys and just started eating them.

1039
00:53:56,119 --> 00:54:00,599
The guards would first every day they would find like

1040
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:07,639
the sickest guy holding up the whole line, barely walk

1041
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,199
and just kill him, bayonet him, not gonna waste a

1042
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:15,000
bullet on him, Bayonet him, and then carve him up,

1043
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:17,480
cook him.

1044
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: He's a kebab, eat.

1045
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: Him However, this sort of proved to be a little

1046
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,920
inefficient unless they were like totally on death doorstep. Because

1047
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,719
it's hot, it's humid, you don't have salt. The meat's

1048
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,760
just not gonna keep if you slaughter the whole body.

1049
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:38,039
Speaker 1: Right, so you just kind of him off piece by piece.

1050
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they started doing. They would start tying

1051
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:45,559
POW's to trees, cut a leg off, and then that

1052
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:50,039
person for the next couple days would be there walking

1053
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:55,199
meat storage and like you know, they stop for the

1054
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,440
day time to a tree. Again, let's chop off an arm.

1055
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,800
I'm gonna eat an arm today.

1056
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,559
Speaker 1: Gotta think you're staring with arms because legs, they at

1057
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:04,599
least will be able to walk. Yeah, yeah, you know,

1058
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:05,800
want to inconvenience yourself.

1059
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: So they would essentially have the.

1060
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,039
Speaker 1: Ears, maybe a nose. Arms don't need the arms, and

1061
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:16,400
cheek some cheek. I mean you can cut some shoulder.

1062
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ass well, as might hurt the walking acs

1063
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:21,400
and legs will probably.

1064
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:23,559
Speaker 1: Last, but they wouldmagine to be tender good meat if

1065
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:26,960
it's the shoulder, because that's what pork shoulder, pork butt

1066
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:28,119
is r shoulder.

1067
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: So they would essentially just cut a piece off every

1068
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:35,719
day of these guys, and but they'll keep them alive

1069
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,400
so that the rest of the meat would still be

1070
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,800
fresh and they could cut off another piece the next

1071
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,599
day until that guy was fucking dead. Rinse and repeat

1072
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,760
with a ship time and again. Six people survived out

1073
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:53,159
of the thousands of people on these death marches. Hearts

1074
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:56,039
and livers were removed and eaten raw or cooked for

1075
00:55:56,679 --> 00:56:03,320
quote unquote again medicinal benefits. This constantly happened in front

1076
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,199
of other POWs. They would literally turkey leg it, like

1077
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,840
you said earlier, in front of the other POWs, to

1078
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,440
be like I want to try and run, you want

1079
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,440
to try and grab my rifle? Look at this. That

1080
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,519
wouldn't sway me though, That would actually inspire me more

1081
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:21,159
to either go down swinging or get the fuck out

1082
00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:21,480
of there.

1083
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not gonna mentally defeat me. That's just gonna

1084
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,440
inspire me to take a swing.

1085
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:32,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, because hopeful hack hope is the only thing that

1086
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,440
would keep you from rebelling, right, Like, maybe I can

1087
00:56:35,519 --> 00:56:38,760
just keep my head down in desperation. Yeah, Like, maybe

1088
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,199
I can just keep my head down and get through this.

1089
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,599
But if they're just using a guy as a rotisserie chicken.

1090
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,519
Speaker 1: If you're being a dick, it's gonna motivate me. That's

1091
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:52,280
how you motivate an American pettiness.

1092
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:53,519
Speaker 2: Well, these were rossies.

1093
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: That's how you motivate. I mean, if there's ever a

1094
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,840
group of people that need to be inspired, it's all I.

1095
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: Think out of the entire Anglo world, Australians are the

1096
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,800
most similar to Americans.

1097
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,039
Speaker 1: There are a lazy cousins.

1098
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't.

1099
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: They're rough, they don't have any driver ambition. That's why

1100
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,599
they hang out down under it.

1101
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:15,159
Speaker 2: But they're rough and tumbles they are.

1102
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they've getten to a scrap. But they love

1103
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,000
to drink, they love to fight. They don't really like

1104
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:21,880
doing anything else.

1105
00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:26,159
Speaker 2: Now, that was my favorite. That's my favorite thing about Austin.

1106
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,639
When you go out, which I don't anymore, there's so

1107
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:32,079
many you run into Australians. This is like a popular

1108
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,719
vacation spot for Australians.

1109
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: Because all they know about America is like New York,

1110
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:40,280
LA and Texas pretty much. So like we'll go to Texas.

1111
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,280
I did, boys.

1112
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,159
Speaker 2: I did meet a couple of Assis in New Orleans

1113
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:46,440
two once they were I think, you know, they knew

1114
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,599
enough about that to be like, oh this guy see

1115
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:51,719
go see New Orleans. I can't do it right now.

1116
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,639
I don't know the Aussie and me right now.

1117
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,119
Speaker 1: Oh baby, ate mod dingo. I know I did it wrong.

1118
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:03,000
It's okay, No, I mean that was on purpose.

1119
00:58:03,039 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: Oh a baby. So a lot of times when a

1120
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,920
pow would die too. The Japanese like, oh, cool meat.

1121
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,079
We don't have to chop off Rick's arm today. We

1122
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,079
can keep that meat fresh for tomorrow. So they chop

1123
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:18,639
that guy up. They eat some of it, but you know,

1124
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:20,440
you don't eat so much in a day. He don't

1125
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,679
have so much barbecue. You get full, get the itis,

1126
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:25,679
You gotta keep marching. It's hard. So they would put

1127
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:28,840
it into packs, put it into their supply packs. And

1128
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,760
as I mentioned earlier, they were not the ones carrying

1129
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,639
the supply packs. So all of a sudden, you're carrying

1130
00:58:34,679 --> 00:58:40,360
your friend Steve's meat for your horrific captors to eat later.

1131
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:44,239
Speaker 1: Just make him a jerk he or something easier to

1132
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,159
carry in packs.

1133
00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:48,159
Speaker 2: You haven't. You got the fire, you can smoke it, you.

1134
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: Dry it out. It's a whole process. Yeah, probably takes

1135
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,599
a little longer.

1136
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

1137
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: But you're gonna be able to carry more.

1138
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: Also, true, shrinks it up, makes it better surviving POW's

1139
00:59:03,719 --> 00:59:07,679
All six of them also said they witnessed guards eating

1140
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:11,920
the brains of freshly killed victims, often in front of.

1141
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,239
Speaker 1: Steel their memories.

1142
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: The other Yeah, often in front of the other POWs

1143
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,400
to fuck with them. So they'd just be like pulling

1144
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,920
a brain out of a guy's skull while other POWs

1145
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,480
are watching, to be like, yeah, that'd.

1146
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: Be kind of sweet.

1147
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:25,119
Speaker 2: Though.

1148
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: If you best hit somebody and ate their brains, you

1149
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,519
got all their knowledge.

1150
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:30,159
Speaker 2: That's how it should work.

1151
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,199
Speaker 1: Should work that way.

1152
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why it doesn't.

1153
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:34,719
Speaker 1: He's someone's brains. All of a sudden, you can speak

1154
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,920
four different languages.

1155
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: You know what their wife looks like naked.

1156
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:44,599
Speaker 1: You know how to please her. She's a widow. Maybe

1157
00:59:44,599 --> 00:59:46,639
she's freshly a widow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know all

1158
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:47,559
the right moves.

1159
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: No, lock her down, know everything to say to her.

1160
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what how do you know that? Wow? It's

1161
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:54,320
like that is my favorite flower.

1162
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like fate that you were sent here.

1163
00:59:57,639 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, I killed innate your husband.

1164
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:02,679
Speaker 2: His brain and specifically, and now I know the key

1165
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:08,159
to your heart, and the guards would often brag to

1166
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:12,639
the other POW's like, hey, I hate your buddy. He

1167
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tastes like shit.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry Rob, when you die, I won't eat you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not your brains. Don't want your brains. Have no

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use for your brain.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay you want all these history facts up there.

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01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,559
I hope you eat my brain and it gives you

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my ad D.

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Speaker 1: Don't need that. Although with that, just balance out the autism.

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Speaker 2: Baby, who knows you get normal?

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, when people talk about speedballs, they just like,

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do a shit ton of weed, shit ton of coke?

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Could just they're back to normal. It's like, why aren't

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you just not doing anything?

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Speaker 2: It's so much work too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of money to get nowhere, the

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same effect of being sober.

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Speaker 2: It's like sprinting in a circle. It's a point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah when in coke. Okay, I guess sure.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that is the stories I have today. And again,

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like I said, there were a fair amount of and

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these weren't even all the ones, but you know, it

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was about an hour's worth.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There were a fair amount of stories about Japanese cannibalism.

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Most of it, though, went unrecorded, because why would it.

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The evidence isn't really there. You just ate a guy

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and then buried him. There's probably no witnesses to most

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of it. But to me, the most damning thing is

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that the Japanese Army had to send out a whole

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ass order to everyone to be like, stop aiding people more.

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Speaker 1: Serial killers should eat people. Seems like an easy way

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to dispose of the body.

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Speaker 2: I think it's not. It's like one hundred and eighty

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to two hundred and fifty pounds of meat or use

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if you're killing women, like one hundred to one hundred

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and thirty.

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Speaker 1: But in the fraser you're good for the winner.

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Speaker 2: That's not that's keeping the evidence at that point.

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Speaker 1: Eventually though, no true, unless they start doing going through

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your your sewer system and finding fecal matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they could probably test your shit for human remains.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. Actually, the easiest way is to just live

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in the Everglades and you just throw bodies for the

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alligators to child.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they'll never find anything.

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Speaker 1: Or of course you feed them to the pigs that too.

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Speaker 2: Those pigs will take it down.

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Speaker 1: Bring a full circle real fucking fast.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's Uh, that's my episode today on how

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the Japanese eight Allied soldiers in World War Two and

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not because they were hungry.

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Speaker 1: But they wanted to send the message.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that message was something everyone already knew, we're crazy.

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There was another thing, like I just got like random

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tidbits of stuff too in this episode that weren't with cannibalism,

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but just like showed how fucking wild the Japanese were.

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Like there were reports of like American sailors on ships

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that were getting Kama Kazi bombed, and like there were

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reports of like sailors looking up and seeing seeing like

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the Kama Kazi pilot like waving at them as they

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were coming straight fucking down at the ship.

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Speaker 1: Why not. It's like everybody that owns a jeep they

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have that little jeep wave.

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01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, put a little duck in your And then they

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01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,599
ram another car and then the jeep owner gets out

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01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:29,679
and vouch it. The other jeep owner gets out and

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01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:32,079
vouches that it was the Superaru driver's fault.

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Speaker 1: Always was. Yeah, I mean, if it's going to be

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01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,960
a super Roo, it's gonna be a lesbian, right, Yeah,

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01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,239
we know lesbians can't drive.

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Speaker 2: I think lesbians love wranglers too.

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01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:49,679
Speaker 1: Though super ru is typically the joke. I know, I know,

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it's actually a joke. My mom told me it's one

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01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:55,719
of the first jokes I heard when I was a child.

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01:03:56,079 --> 01:03:58,639
She's like, Yeah, the only people that drive superos lesbians.

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01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:03,119
Speaker 2: It's pretty accurate. I wish I was like a billionaire

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01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:05,639
so I could just troll like lesbian friend.

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01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,199
Speaker 1: Bouche drives the super Uo. He's a lesbian.

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01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he kind of has a lesbian haircut. He did.

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01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:12,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if he still does now you've

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01:04:12,639 --> 01:04:14,079
seen him since he cut his mulet off.

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01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. True. And he has sex with a woman, real

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01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,039
lesbian behavior.

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01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,679
Speaker 1: Very lesbian. Yeah, and he doesn't use his penis.

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01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,559
Speaker 2: A lot of it's all strep. A lot of smoke

1253
01:04:24,679 --> 01:04:28,719
on that, A lot of smoke on boushe haircut, Subaru

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,519
focks a woman.

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01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, lesbian lesbian.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's all I got for today. What'd you learn?

1257
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:40,079
Speaker 1: I learned your down bad. You got a big gulp

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01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:44,079
right now full of tequila. Yeah, and it's because you

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01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:47,440
had to spew out this horrific information.

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01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:50,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a big golp full tequia because

1261
01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:51,519
I don't want to refill it in the middle of

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01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:54,039
the episode. If I'm drinking beer, I can just crack

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01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:55,679
a fucking beer.

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01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,239
Speaker 1: If you have a big gulp full of tequila because

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01:04:58,239 --> 01:04:59,960
you have an alcohol problem, and that's fine.

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01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:03,559
Speaker 2: I don't have an alcohol fine, I have an alcohol hobby.

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01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: You're coming up on forty this week. Yeah. In fact,

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say happy birthday, Rob. For everybody at home.

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Speaker 2: You'll have to wish me happy birthday.

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01:05:10,719 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: In the comments. Just tell Rob happy birthday.

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01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,159
Speaker 1: Well help us with the algorithm.

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01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: The Patreon episode we're recording in five minutes will come

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,559
out on my birthday. Happy birthday, Rob, Thanks buddy. Turn

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01:05:23,719 --> 01:05:27,920
forty feel great, I feel very healthy.

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01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: You're having a midlife crisis and it shows.

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01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,239
Speaker 2: I just started, like actually exercising again, not going for

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01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:35,960
the odd run.

1279
01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: And why are you running? Who you're running from? What problems?

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01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: All of them? Just forty Running's.

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01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:47,119
Speaker 1: Pointless, you know, start doing like ultra marathons.

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01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:49,159
Speaker 2: No, I didn't like forty. I like running. I want

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01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:51,440
to do I want to run get into tennis league again,

1284
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,559
and I can't get can't it run off the court

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01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:56,119
in the first second. Well, I'm running on treadmills now.

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01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: I'll play tennis with you. Okay, I've never really played tennis,

1287
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:02,480
played tennis like five times in my life. I still

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think I can compete.

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01:06:05,239 --> 01:06:07,079
Speaker 2: Oh, you certainly can't.

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01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: I was taught by my Hungarian roommate in college.

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01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,039
Speaker 2: This would be your best opportunity of the last ten years,

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01:06:13,079 --> 01:06:15,639
because I'm in the worst conditioning shape I've ever been in.

1293
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,519
But you won't. You're not gonna get any first service in.

1294
01:06:19,559 --> 01:06:21,199
You're gonna try to hit it hard. You're eventually gonna

1295
01:06:21,199 --> 01:06:22,639
have to lob it, and I'm just gonna smash a

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01:06:22,679 --> 01:06:23,400
fucking backhand.

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01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,159
Speaker 1: Dude, what if I have the serve of an adonnis?

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01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 2: You don't. I'm sure. I'm sure you can hit it hard.

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01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:31,960
You're not getting it in.

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01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: We'll get it in, dude. It's just form. How hard

1301
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,920
is that? Take my golf swing? Once I get it down,

1302
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,840
it's over before you do that.

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01:06:41,159 --> 01:06:42,239
Speaker 2: The same thing about golf.

1304
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: I just said that, Yeah, how hard is golf? Not

1305
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,800
very Sometimes it feels like it's not that hard. Other

1306
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:54,639
times it feels really hard. We're gonna get it together, though,

1307
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,599
We're gonna break eighty at some point during this unemployment phase.

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01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,039
I've done it several times. It's attainable. The game's there.

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01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,239
I just gotta put my mind do.

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01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:07,199
Speaker 2: It, gotta get it all together in the same.

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01:07:07,199 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, team, it's the put in. It's really the fucking

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01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,960
Anything inside thirty forty yards right now is killing me.

1313
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,960
I'll drive it three ten and have forty yards and

1314
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,559
I'll just I'll hit a green in regulation would be

1315
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:23,519
like fifty feet, not four feet.

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01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: So that sounds fixable. Don't drive it three hundred yards,

1317
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,400
don't put it within forty, put it within eighty. And

1318
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,480
then no, it sounds like you're better from eighty than for.

1319
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,599
Speaker 1: It's better from forty. We just got to figure out

1320
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:41,239
the phot Okay, all right, we'll get there fair enough.

1321
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:46,400
Who today's hitler? Today's hitler, I'm gonna say, isn't the

1322
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,760
Japanese actually, because they saved my dad's life?

1323
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:50,559
Speaker 2: Fair enough?

1324
01:07:50,679 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: In the roundabout way.

1325
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,559
Speaker 2: Is it George Bush for abandoning and and bandoning his comrades?

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01:07:55,599 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's hw staying alive, okay, because of

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,760
all the terrible things he did around the world through

1328
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,320
the Central Intelligence Agency.

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01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,079
Speaker 2: If he had any honor, he'd have been eating.

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01:08:10,159 --> 01:08:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, go down with the ship body, heah, body.

1331
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: Heah, body, that's all I got for today on Japanese

1332
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,159
eating people for fun basically in World War two.

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01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, like I said, go wish Rob happy birthday

1334
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,399
in the comments on YouTube. Make sure to subscribe to

1335
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:34,399
our YouTube, leave comments. Leave a review on Apple and Spotify,

1336
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,039
please and thank you. That'll really help us, especially if

1337
01:08:39,039 --> 01:08:41,319
you leave a reveal on Apple. It's just fun to read.

1338
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:44,039
Maybe in the next couple of weeks if we have

1339
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:46,600
a bunch of new reviews, we'll read those aloud at

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,079
the end of the episode next week or the week after.

1341
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,159
And yes, check out Patreon, Patreon dot com, Slash software

1342
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:55,800
history two additional episodes every week on the lower tier,

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01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:59,359
go higher tier for the sports, doing an episode on

1344
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,920
VLAT that'll drop Wednesday, and then whatever Rob's feeling for

1345
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:07,000
the Friday episode. Plus the four year evergreen Back catalog

1346
01:09:07,119 --> 01:09:12,119
that has so many episodes, so.

1347
01:09:12,119 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 2: Many episodes, it's an insane amount of episodes.

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01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: You'll it's gonna be hard to run through them all

1349
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:21,720
in a conservative amount of time.

1350
01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you could just subscribe for six months and

1351
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,680
you would have content every day.

1352
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,119
Speaker 1: And it just keeps building because every week you're getting

1353
01:09:31,119 --> 01:09:35,159
two more episodes like this, yep, and we're gonna keep

1354
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:37,640
on chugging, keep on doing.

1355
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:38,279
Speaker 2: This, we don't stop.

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,159
Speaker 1: Subscribe to the Patreon if you haven't already for Rob's birthday,

1357
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:42,800
nice little birthday.

1358
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,399
Speaker 2: Game that is a nice birthday gift. Subscribe to the

1359
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:45,760
Patreon and say happy birth.

1360
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: Give somebody else if you're a Patreon member, the gift

1361
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:54,239
of Patreon, the gift of us, Gift of us. You

1362
01:09:54,319 --> 01:09:58,199
really need to help her all with this midlief crisis. Yeah,

1363
01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:00,920
and also amun employed, so that would Yeah, I hope

1364
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,760
it's midlife. You don't want to live to one hundred

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01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:05,119
and twenty.

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Speaker 2: No, I was going to the opposite. I don't want

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to die at.

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Speaker 1: Like sixty, okay, but like no, it could be like

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01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,920
a quarter life. You're living to one hundred and six.

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Speaker 2: I mean based on my grandparents and my parents, like,

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seventy is no problem.

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Speaker 1: They told us all we got to do is get

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01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:21,560
the twenty thirty five and we'll be immortal.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, let's all.

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01:10:23,159 --> 01:10:24,119
Speaker 1: Probably the rich elite.

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01:10:24,199 --> 01:10:27,039
Speaker 2: Yes, we're no, we have to we have it in

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01:10:27,079 --> 01:10:28,680
twenty forty five were peasants.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll find some like like ghetto rigged version of immortality.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yahah Yeah, we are not getting it in twenty

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thirty five, but twenty forty five, twenty.

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,279
Speaker 1: Fifty five, now we're cooking.

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01:10:41,359 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good to go. That's how that's how long

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01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:44,640
we have to make.

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01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,239
Speaker 1: It, and we will will persevere. Yeah, and we'll continue

1385
01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:49,920
to the show forever if we have to.

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01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:51,399
Speaker 2: There'll be more history to do.

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 1: Keep his belding every year.

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01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Tune in in twenty forty eight for our recap

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01:10:56,319 --> 01:10:57,520
of the Trump presidencies.

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Speaker 1: Uh, well, be objective. Yeah, we'll have that ten thousand

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foot view.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to cover it now.

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Speaker 2: It's stupid, No, it's horrible.

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Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about it now. And too deep,

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too close to the elephant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's all I got.

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Speaker 1: And how do you eat an elephant?

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Speaker 2: One by a time?

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Speaker 1: By at that time in twenty forty eight. Yeah, for

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day tuned subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for Dad Regester, I'm roped Fox.

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Speaker 1: You just gotta saucerved.