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Speaker 1: Shaw m out Virginia anyway.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious podcasts. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a story

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coming up for you that involves Billy Joel's manager impersonating

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a doctor in order to sneak him out of a

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mental hospital that he was in after a failed attempted

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suicide in this episode, if you're not going to stick

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around to hear that story, then I don't know what

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to do with yet. Jason, how are you doing, man?

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Speaker 3: I'm good man. I've got a story on Billy Joel's

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Greatest twenty four Hours in the nineteen eighties that actually

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arrived Lionel Richie's Greatest twenty four Hours.

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Speaker 2: So we are here today doing our second part to

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the two parts that we typically do. Last week we

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did Lionel Richie Can't Slow Down. This week we are

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comparing Billy Joel an innocent man, and because we happen

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to know the number one fan in the galaxy for

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Billy Joel, we invited our dear friend, mister John Reid

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from the thirty something Movie podcast. Mister John Reid from

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the Pocket Full of Kryptonite podcast mister John Reid, It's

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good to see you, buddy.

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Speaker 4: How you doing.

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Speaker 5: Man, Apparently my reputation precedes me, and it's like a

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mile long.

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Speaker 3: That was the longest time, right, there's.

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Speaker 5: I have looked for when you guys told me about

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this one this night in particular, I've looked forward to

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for the longest time. So yeah, I know, I know

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I'm guilty of that oftentimes, but overall, I'm typically an

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innocent man. It's getting to be careless talk, so I'm

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just going to leave a tender moment alone.

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Speaker 2: I'd said, eladies and gentlemen, we're off for the night.

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Everybody tip your waitress.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, No, I'm looking forward to this, And

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it's been a while since since I've been able to

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talk with you.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 5: Are podcast full of Ryptonite still on a little bit

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of a hiatus for just a little bit. A Superman

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and Lois is coming back soon, so we'll have to

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get that back in the rotation.

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Speaker 4: But it's been a while. It's been a while.

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Speaker 2: So I was looking up because I needed to send

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you the Zoom invite today and we're trying to find

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your email and I just searched our texts and look,

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and I say to Jason, look, it's exactly three years

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ago that I asked him for his email for the

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first time. And we just always we pick things that

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we know are your favorites. So three years ago we

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got together and we did Superman, which of course eventually

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spun into podcasts full of Kryptonite. And then we have

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of course had you back on to Star Wars Holiday Special,

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which was fantastic. And now here we are with mister

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Billy Joel. I think the only thing we have left

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to do with you is the rocketeer.

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Speaker 5: Let's do it. We can do the rocketeer in Billy Joel.

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At the same time, let's just talk about all.

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Speaker 3: You ready to dive into the history of mister William

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Joel here to sing us a song tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's do it. So we're gonna take you

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back to eighty nine, eighteen eighty nine. Yeah, that's when

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a mister Carl Amson Joel was born. Mister Joel was

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born in Germany and in nineteen twenty eight he got

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himself invested in a textile factory. Was one of the

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key players in this textile factory. The only problem was

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is that nineteen twenty eight was about five years before

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it became the worst time in all of history to

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be in Germany because the Nazis so poor Jewish mister

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Joel was forced to sell his textile factory to an

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Aryan stooge, if you will. He was then forced to

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cut the price in half. Then the money was put

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in a trust account which he couldn't get access to.

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By this time, he has immigrated over to Switzerland with

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his wife and his young son, Helmet, who would later

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be called Howard. And they are there for a bit,

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but ultimately decide they have to get to the United States,

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so via France via England via Cuba. Eventually they end

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up in the US and he starts another factory. By

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nineteen fifty seven, he finally gets paid for his factory

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in Germany. And I tell you all that to tell

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you this. His young son, Helmut, whose name was Howard,

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also in nineteen fifty seven. He was a family man.

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He was married with two kids, a little girl named

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Judith and a little boy that they called Billy. Both

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of them were music prodigies. Howard was a piano prodigy.

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Billy was a prodigy by four years old Billy was

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take and piano lessons. And then right about the time

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that Billy's grandfather gets all of his money, his dad,

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Howard says, you know what, I liked Europe better, I'm

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going back. Oh and nobody's coming with me. Yeah, And

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so he leaves. He goes back to Europe, where he

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gets married again, has a second boy named Alexander, who

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is now a internationally famous composer. Billy Joel's half brother

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is an internationally famous composer named Alexander Joel.

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Speaker 4: But back to.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen fifty seven, when he leaves or Billy is he's

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got piano lessons that his mom is scraping up to

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give him. He's getting made fun of and bullied by

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the local Long Island kids, and so he's got a

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tough en up a little bit. And so what does

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he take up. He takes up boxing.

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Speaker 3: He went twenty two and four box.

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Speaker 2: He went twenty two and four had he had twenty

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six matches, lost four of them, the last two of

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them were by knockout, and so after that he was done.

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In that time, he also kept music, so he and

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his friends start this high school band. After he has

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fallen in love with the Beatles, and they call themselves

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the Lost Souls. Huh, you got a story for me?

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Speaker 3: I got a story for you. So in the third grade,

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little William Joel, during their lunch hour, finds a piano

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in the lunch room starts playing hound Dog by Elvis Presley. Okay,

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and the fourth grade girls go crazy. Keep in mind

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he's a third grader. He's like, my mind was gaving

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up when the fourth grade girls were going crazy. I

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realized I was onto something, yeah, he said. Then he

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started to wiggle his hips and he got yanked off

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the stage by the school faculty.

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Speaker 2: Well the seed was planted at that point.

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Speaker 4: It's too late.

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Speaker 2: It's like when Prince watched James Brown. He knew this

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was what he was destined.

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Speaker 4: For in life.

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Speaker 3: He said that the door locked behind him. He was

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going to be a musician the rest of his life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So he was the.

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Speaker 2: Type of kid who would go up to his room

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at night and say good night mom, and then sneak

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out the window and go hustle around, getting involved in

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mischief and stuff. And he was also a kid who

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was playing in bands.

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Speaker 3: And he wasn't really a top notch student. He didn't

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graduate from high school right until like nineteen ninety two

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or three or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honorary ged or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, mister English teacher may have to weigh in

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on this one. But he had a final in English

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that was mandatory for his graduation, and because he was

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at a gig playing, he slept through that test, didn't

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make it. Petitioned the school and they were like, nope, sorry,

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you don't graduate, and he's like, well, screw you, guys.

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I know I'm gonna be anyway. So what am I

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doing fooling around with high school? His words exactly were,

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I'm not going to Columbia University. I'm going to Columbia

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Records baby.

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Speaker 5: And then, from what I understand, a quarter of a

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century later, he actually submitted his essays to the school

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board and they accepted them and gave him his diploma,

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like twenty five years after he left the school.

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Speaker 3: The fact that they actually made him submit those essays,

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I mean, with Billy Joe calls and said, hey, kind

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of my ged I'd be like, yes.

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Speaker 2: Never.

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Speaker 5: In true public teacher fashion, they were like, I don't

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care who you are, that that work is late. If

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you want the credit you turn it in.

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Speaker 3: Your essay on to Kill a Mockingbird was due twenty

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five years ago.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have to mark you down one point

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for every year. Latest thick bes Chi can get seventy five.

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So mister Joel continues in the music biz. He auditions

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for a guy named Erwin Maser Now Erwin ultimately becomes

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his manager. At the time, he was just a younger

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guy whose dad owned a cool club in a strip center.

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Of all places, I did another cool clubs and strip centers,

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but that's where Erwin's dad had one, and so he said, hey,

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I think you would be the perfect guy to join

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the group that I helped manage called the Hassles. The Hassles,

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thank you very much. He was still just a piano

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player for him, but he started singing more often, especially

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when their lead singer left. But ultimately the Hassles ended

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up being a hassle. They did two albums, they weren't

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well received anywhere, and ultimately the group broke up and

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Billy decided to go and form a duo band, a

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two piece band with the drummer from the Assholes, and

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that guy's name was John Small. What's interesting is that

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it's a duo band with a drummer and a keyboard player.

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And what's more interesting is they were gonna play heavy metal, right,

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that was their plan. They named the band Attila, and

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they decided we're going to be super loud, and they were,

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in fact so loud they got kicked out of the

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one gig that they had.

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Speaker 3: The.

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Speaker 1: One and Only California Flies.

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Speaker 2: Billy is trying his best to find a place to live,

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ultimately ends up staying with John Small and his wife, Elizabeth.

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Elizabeth isn't super happy with John, her drummer husband, and

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so she kind of confides in Billy and is like, hey,

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you know here where things are going wrong. And as

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typically happens when those types of relationships develop, it very

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quickly turned into an affair. The one rule is in

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the band, you don't sleep with other band members. Wise

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it should be really easy when there's only one band member,

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there's only one other guy, only one guy, and he's

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the only guy who's married.

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Speaker 3: Don't sleep with that girl, right, And he couldn't do it. Now.

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The interesting thing was they were separated for a time

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and Billy Joel thought, well they're separated, it's cool. We're

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kind of a trifecta. We were on a break and

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so his band member followed them home from a gig

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one time and saw them together. When he came in,

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Billy had no inkling that what he was doing was

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not cool or not all right, and he said, the

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guy slugged him out of nowhere. He's like, I've been

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punched before, but I'd never been punched that hard when

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I completely was not looking for it. Yeah, and then

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the guilt rained down on him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that stopped him right there. He never had

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another relationship with Elizabeth again. No that's not true. No, okay, yeah, no, sorry, Yeah,

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the relationship continued and he continue to feel guilty, and

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he said, I'm going to I have to tell him

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that this is still going on. And she said, if

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you tell him, I will leave both of you. And

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that pretty well ended things, not only for John and Elizabeth,

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but it also ended things for John and Billy. So

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nineteen seventy, Attila releases its only album, First and Last,

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and nobody liked it anyway. So nineteen seventy also is

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when Billy runs away with Elizabeth. They would later get married.

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She would later become his manager, but what's most impressive

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is we're going to talk about a video later on

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that one of the directors for Billy Joel's video is

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John Small. That's the guy who doesn't hold a grudge.

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Speaker 3: I forget to forget. Wow. Now, during this time, Billy

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was actually suicidal. He had lost Elizabeth, he had lost

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his best friend, he had lost his band, he didn't

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have a gig.

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Speaker 2: He was living in a laundromat. I can see how

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that might be a downer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So what he did was he was given some anxiety pills,

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and so he decided, well, I got these pills. I

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guess I'll just take all of them. Yeah, And he

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woke up in the Burgency room.

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Speaker 2: They had pumped his stomach.

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Speaker 3: He had survived his half hearted suicide attempt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Erwin, he was living with Irwin Mazer at the time.

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Erwin said, he woke up one morning, he walks into

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the kitchen and on the kitchen table he sees that

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Billy has written a song. They're like, oh, hey, there's

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a song Billy wrote. It's called Tomorrow's Today. That's interesting.

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He reads it and then you know, a few hours later,

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he gets the call from the hospital and he's like, oh, this.

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Speaker 3: Is a suicide note. Oh okay, my bad.

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Speaker 2: One thing that I didn't mention about Irwin Massour is

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that for a time he was a dental school attendant,

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but he dropped out of dental school. But when he

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goes to visit Billy at the hospital, Billy's like, they're crazy.

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several failed attempts at legally getting him out of the hospital.

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Later he decided, I'm gonna throw on my old dental

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school attendant lab coat and he walks in and sneaks

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Billy Joel out of the mental hospital. Wow, that's creative.

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Speaker 3: You know what he did to get into the mental hospital.

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Speaker 2: He committed suicide. He tried to commit suicide. He well,

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his second attempt.

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Speaker 3: Was he drank a bottle of old English.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, furniture cleaner.

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Speaker 5: What did you did you hear what he said about

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the second attempt when he drank the bottle of furniture polish,

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get it right. Well, the furniture polish will probably taste

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better than the bleach. So I'll drink the furniture polish.

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farting furniture polish for a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, that's hilarious. Okay, so two suicide attempts.

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Speaker 5: Oddly enough, that didn't polish him off. Ohuning I went

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there real quick. I was I was going to back

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up for a second to the Attila album. I was

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in a used bookstore years and years and years ago,

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and I ended up coming across a cassette tape and

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I pulled this tape out because it said Attila with

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Billy Joel, and I was like, wait, what, hold on,

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hold the phone. If you're a comic book fan, you

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might enjoy part of the Attila album because the very

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first song is titled wonder Woman. Canonically, I don't think

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it has anything to do with wonder Woman, but that

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is the name of the song.

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Speaker 4: So if you want to just.

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Speaker 5: Check it out to hear what Billy Joel's seventies progressive

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rock heavy metal sounds like, go for it. It's a

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weird little album.

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Speaker 3: But I wonder if wonder Woman is an uptown girl

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or he's trying to serve me these softballs and I'm

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like swinging a mess.

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Speaker 4: That's a secret that's a secret code for Elizabeth Small.

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Speaker 2: So less than a month, less than a month after

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he has tried to kill himself the second time because

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of his failed music career, Irwin is at his brother's office,

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and Irwin's brother happens to be the art director for

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Paramount Records, and he's playing in one of Billy's songs

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and some long haired dude sticks his head through the

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door and says, who is that what you got there?

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And that dude's name was Michael Lang And if you

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don't recognize that name, he's the guy who did Woodstock. Wow,

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so not insignificant. Yeah, And he's like, oh you like it?

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And he goes no, not really, not my style, but

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I know a guy who I think would love it.

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And that is how Billy Joel meets the famous, if

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not infamous ARTI Rip. So Michael Lang sends the music

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to ARTI Rip. ARTI Rip calls up Irwin Maisur and says,

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I love Billy Joel. Let's make a deal, and Billy

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signs the as shoot as all of our newbie artists do.

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Signs the record deal quick because he wants to be

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a signed artist right, probably without reading a word of

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the contract. So with the signing of the deal, he

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gets back together with Elizabeth. They were on again, off again,

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and now they're on again and they're ready to produce

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mister Billy Joel's first an incredibly famous album, Cold Spring Harbor.

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Speaker 6: She's gone away about her.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: What it is, but I know that I can.

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Speaker 2: Live with other.

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Speaker 3: Cold Spring Harbor nineteen seventy one crickets.

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Speaker 5: If he'd liked me to talk about Cold Spring Harbor,

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I could talk about Cold Spring Harbor and maybe one

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of the problems that came out with the Cold Spring

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Hart when they recorded it and they were I'm sorry

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that came out way too fast.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's like you're a chipmunk or something that

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was weird.

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Speaker 5: They went through and they recorded the whole thing, and

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I think it is because of a mastering error. His

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voice sounded way too high, you know, and Billy Joel

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he can sound he can hit the high notes, and

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there are times when when his voice can come out

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fairly high. But it ruined the whole album, like it

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ruined the sound of it. And he again, it was

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kind of feeling like, oh great, my first album and

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it's already a flop. It's got some great songs on it,

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but yeah, the mastering of it got all messed up.

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Speaker 2: And truly the responsible party for that was Alardy Ripe,

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and he basically just said, the record's already been pressed.

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There's nothing we can do about it. It is what

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it is, literally, and so here he is. He's got

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this terrible album. What's he going to do now?

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Speaker 3: He went to a listening party. He was at a

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listing party and he was listening. He's like, holy crap,

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I sound like a chipmunk, and then somebody else started laughing.

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So he took the record off, he threw it out

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the window and it just busted everywhere. Yeah, he was humiliated.

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Speaker 2: He was humiliated. So he's not going to make his

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name through this first record. So his next alternative and

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pretty much only alternative at this point, is to make

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his name on the road. And since Arty was the

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one who had screwed up his first album, Irwin Maser

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was able to convince him, hey, you need to finance

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a tour, and so ARTI Rip puts up two hundred

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and fifty three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which was

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a fair chunk of change in that time, and Billy

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starts touring the country, starts touring in Europe, is making

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a name as a live show and doing pretty good.

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And then he has a very very important moment where

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he appears on the WMMR radio station in Philadelphia and

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he plays a song that he has written while on

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the road, and that song is called Captain.

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Night, yostill hanging around, tired of living in

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all on.

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Speaker 5: Hostile You like one of the funny things. I mean,

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fast forward several years. Billy Joel I think, has said

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that's one of his least favorite songs over the years,

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he got so tired of playing it because one thing,

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and we'll talk about that as we're talking about all

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these different songs, is he's much more of a music person.

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Speaker 4: You know. The lyrics to him always come second.

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Speaker 5: He's much more about the music, and I think it's

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always more interesting interesting to him when he can do

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something that is almost classical and more complex. And he

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has said in subsequent interviews he's like, oh yeah, Captain Jack.

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He even said this was his quote. At this point.

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I've demoted him to Private Jack because it's just such

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a boring song. There was an interview where he starts

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to play it and he's just like, you can just

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tell he's bored even just playing it during that interview

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and he's like, oh, thank god a chord change, and

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then he moves into the next He is not a

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fan of that song now, I think because it is

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so simple, and I think some of those I think

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that's some of the some of the like build up

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over the years as to why he got disillusioned with

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his own career and his own success. Was he felt like, oh, man, like,

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the songs that get me real popular are the ones

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that like, I don't even really care for. Like, I know,

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I got to put the lyrics in there because that's

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what sells albums. But eh, all right, I.

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Speaker 3: Found this story funny. He was out on the road

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to support that first album and they noticed there's a

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small group of women that showed up to all the shows.

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Turns out they were hookers, Oh, hired by our man,

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Ardie Rip to schmooz the DJs and to you know,

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support the band, to support the band, keep them up,

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you know, and whichever way they can.

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Speaker 2: If that's moving up, then I'm moving out. So he

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plays Captain Jack on the radio station. It becomes their

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number one requested song, and as it turns out, a

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very important individual is listening, and here's this song, and

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that gentleman's name is Clive Davis. And if you don't

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know that name, you need to check out No Surprise

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by Aerosmith, where they said and then old Clyde Davis said,

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I'm surely gonna make you a star, because that's what

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Clive Davis did. Clive Davis was the head of Columbia Records,

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and he made a whole lot of stars Aerosmith, Bob Dylan,

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Bruce Springsteen, just to name a few. And so he

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calls up and says, hey, I want Billy on my label.

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Well the problem is, of course he's on Arty's label, still, right,

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And so Artie says, okay, tell you what, how about

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I'll let you have him. I just get twenty five

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percent of all of his album sales and all of

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his compositions for the next ten albums ten albums, sounds fair,

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ten albums, ten albums. By the way, ladies, Jim, and

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we're here to talk about album number nine. So you

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just know that Artie RiPP got twenty five percent of

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this baby too, gosh dang, So mister Joel was none

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too happy about that. He ends up firing Irwin Mazer

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over the deal because he thinks he's the one who's

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set him up for this. They remain friends, but he

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just doesn't think he's a good manager, and ultimately he decides, Hey,

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you know what, I'm not only going to marry Elizabeth,

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I'm going to make her my manager.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Have you guys heard that they are talking about making

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a biopic of Billy Joel?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Oh nice, that would be awesome.

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Speaker 5: So they well maybe so they announced in I want

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to say it was back in March of twenty twenty

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two that they were going to be making the biopic

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of his life, the only and it's going to be

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directed by or at least the last thing I heard

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was it's gonna be directed by Adam RiPP, who is

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the son of Artie Rip. And the big hurdle that

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they've got is Billy Joel is not interested in having

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them make a movie of his early life, so he

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is not allowing them to use any of his music

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or his likeness. So they're how they're possibly going to

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make a biopick. What I've heard is they the biopick

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would would focus on the time of his life and

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career leading up to like I guess the end of

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the movie would be him releasing Captain Jack, him performing

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Captain Jack, and that being the first step to his stardom.

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It's it would deal with the time that he spent

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with the Hassles and and Attila and all that, and

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and Irwin Maser and but yeah, apparently they can't use

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his likeness or his music, so I'm not quite sure

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how you uh. I mean, weird Awl's weird would have

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been even more weird if you couldn't have him look

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like weird Al or play weird al music.

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Speaker 2: So this is about a guy named Schmilly Schold a

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band named ginghis Khan in the Hustler.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think you're going to pull that off.

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Speaker 2: But well, so he now has to pay back some

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of the money and is trying to dodge the creditors

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that are coming back after him. So what he ends

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up doing is playing lowly piano bar gigs in La

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under the name Billy Martin. During that time, he meets

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a guy named Davy who's still in the Navy, and

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a guy named Paul who's a real estate novelist.

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Speaker 5: And probably that one guy probably will be for life.

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Speaker 3: Yes, nineteen seventy three, he writes and records Piano Man.

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Speaker 1: It's nine o'clock gone a Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I regular crowd shuffles in. Man.

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Speaker 2: That's a good way to come back in after a terrible,

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terribly bad, failed attempt at a first album. What a

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great way to reintroduce yourself.

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Speaker 5: To the world.

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Speaker 4: Have you guys ever heard any of the demo versions

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of his songs?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: They had this entire you can find them on YouTube,

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but they had this entire I think it was released

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as an album. It was called My Lives and it's

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00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,480
a it's an album of like remixes and demo versions.

474
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,799
And I was just listening to this the other day

475
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,960
because some of these I had not heard before. And

476
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,720
the Piano Man demo is really it's like it's like

477
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:30,640
the whole alternate universe kind of thing. It's the Mandela effect,

478
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:34,160
Like it's it sounds like Piano Man, but the lyrics

479
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,559
from the get go are different and so and it's

480
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,200
like you're listening to Billy Joel sing a song that

481
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,119
you're like, no, no, hold on, that's not right. I'm going

482
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,759
to actually bring that back when we talk about some

483
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:45,960
of the songs on the album that we're here to

484
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,920
talk about, because there's a demo that I actually liked

485
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,400
better than the song that was released. But yeah, that

486
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,039
that album is kind of fun. But to hear that

487
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,920
demo of Piano Man, it's very and it sounds very

488
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,640
different too. It's it's almost very echo we like it's

489
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,880
it's got an echo effect. It's been added to it.

490
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:03,400
I'm like, that just sounds it's weird.

491
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 6: Said Son calling you play me a memory. I'm not

492
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,440
really sure how it goes.

493
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,079
Speaker 4: You know.

494
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 3: In our Patreon episode this month, we're dropping a Patreon

495
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,799
episode on take on.

496
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:25,839
Speaker 2: Me by Aha.

497
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,079
Speaker 3: That song went through multiple, like three or four different

498
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,519
variations before it hit.

499
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

500
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: First one, you have that keyboard riff, but the words

501
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,559
are totally different. Yeah, go to our Patreon page, by

502
00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:39,920
the way, check those episodes out.

503
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 4: It's awesome.

504
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: So after The Piano Man is released in nineteen seventy three,

505
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,519
it reaches number twenty five in the Hot one hundred.

506
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:49,279
By the way, we'll roll through these pretty quick. But

507
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,759
nineteen seventy four, he releases an album called Street Live

508
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:56,240
Serenade with the song you might know called the Entertainer.

509
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,599
Speaker 6: I am the Entertainer and I know just square Eyes

510
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:06,079
stand an a serenader and another long haired band.

511
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: Today I Am You're Champion a male one young you know.

512
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 5: Again his his struggle with the recording industry, and it's

513
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,759
it's got the line in the song, I'm gonna mess

514
00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:18,519
it up here in a second, but it's like, if

515
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:20,039
you're gonna have a hit, you gotta make it fit.

516
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,400
So they cut it down to three zero five, and

517
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:24,759
kind of like his commentary on I gotta I mean

518
00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:26,160
the stuff if it's gonna get on the radio and

519
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,880
I'm gonna be a hit, I gotta do this stuff.

520
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 4: But that's not it's not what I want to do.

521
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,519
Speaker 5: So you can kind of see the little hints here

522
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,599
and there of it's just like some of the other

523
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,279
creatives that you know, we know and love and talk about,

524
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:39,759
like you know, George Lucas getting you know, fed up

525
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:42,200
with the whole studio system and wanting to be free

526
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,599
to create his artwork. And but yeah, I love the

527
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,480
I love the song. The entertainer is just such a

528
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,599
such a fun little microcosm.

529
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: I think of Billy Joel's, especially his early career.

530
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: Okay, in nineteen seventy six, he releases Turnstiles, and the

531
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,279
song that I know most from that is called New

532
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,039
York State of Mind.

533
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,039
Speaker 5: Turnstiles is a great too, like that one You've got

534
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:04,960
Say Goodbye to Hollywood Summer Highland Falls, that's a great

535
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,119
I love the piano in that one. That's He's referred

536
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,200
to that one as his bipolar song. New York State

537
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,240
of Mind is amazing. James is a fun song. I

538
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,640
mean that one's kind of that's a little underrated James.

539
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,640
And then the song that follows it is The Angry

540
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,559
young Man, And I feel like those two could kind

541
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:24,440
of go together, Like James, based on the lyrics of

542
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,599
the song, he could develop into an angry young man.

543
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,920
But then the one that I've always loved this song

544
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,160
is it ends with Miami twenty seventeen. It's one of

545
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,119
those kind of like I always love a good alternate

546
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,480
history story, alternate universe kind of a story, and just

547
00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:41,640
and especially when it got to be twenty seventeen and

548
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,319
they kind of made a big deal about this song

549
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,279
again and they started playing it. I'm like, I've always

550
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:49,000
thought that song is so cool, and it's actually one

551
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:52,079
of his few songs where he kind of he comes

552
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,200
right out and comments on something political because it had

553
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,519
to do with the city of New York going bankrupt

554
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,519
in the early seventies, and I think it was President Ford.

555
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:04,359
It was the famous headline in the newspaper. Ford says,

556
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,960
drop dead to New York City, and Billy Joel is like, well, God,

557
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:10,960
what would it be like if New York City goes

558
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,480
bankrupt and we have to like sell things off and

559
00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:16,200
shut things down. And so that whole song grew out

560
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,640
of that whole battle between New York and President Ford.

561
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

562
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,279
Speaker 3: Cool. Well, nineteen seventy seven is where I kind of

563
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,839
entered the picture here. I remember this album as a

564
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,519
young kid. The Stranger is released in nineteen seventy seven.

565
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Don't Go Change to Try Please Me You never let

566
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:41,799
me down before.

567
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,119
Speaker 3: Don't That has songs like just the way you are

568
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:53,279
only the good die young moving out and She's always

569
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:53,920
a woman to me.

570
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an important thing that happens the album before this.

571
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Turnstile is where Billy he was initially given a Columbia

572
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,920
producer and given the band the backing band for Elton John,

573
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,680
which seemed like a good fit, but it wasn't working

574
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,400
for him and he was like, no, I don't want

575
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,160
to do that, and he ends up going back to

576
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:19,440
Long Island and getting buddies that are musicians, like guys

577
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,680
come play on the album. They're the ones that of

578
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,200
course become his band forever after that. And then whenever

579
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,160
that's done, the stranger comes along and he's like, Okay,

580
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,920
I'm kind of done with producing and performing. We needed

581
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,440
a producer and that's where we introduced mister Phil Ramone,

582
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:42,039
who is also the producer of An Innocent Man.

583
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,039
Speaker 5: This is one of those albums, and I could say

584
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:45,680
this just about any one of his albums, but this

585
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,720
one in particular, I think it's it's gotten better reception

586
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:51,440
as time has gone on. I think people have gone

587
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,599
back and it got positive reviews when it came out,

588
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,759
but I think since then a lot of people look

589
00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:59,160
back on this one and they're like, this is probably

590
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,319
his most so lyrical album. I think a lot of

591
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:04,759
people would would argue it may be his best and

592
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:06,440
there's just so many songs. I mean, if you look

593
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,920
at the songs on that album, moving Out the Stranger,

594
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,599
just the way you are scenes from an Italian restaurant, Vienna,

595
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,039
only the good Die Young, She's always a woman. I

596
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:18,079
mean you get to the last two songs in the

597
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:20,839
album before I go, oh yeah, I know those songs too,

598
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,279
Like all the other songs are absolutely like throw those

599
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:26,839
all on the Greatest Hits albums, and I think they

600
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:28,440
are on all the greatest hits albums.

601
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's like a greatest Hits album in itself.

602
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay.

603
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,319
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy eight, he releases fifty second Street. For me,

604
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,960
the biggest song on the album is My Life.

605
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: Because of Buds Buddy, Because because of Budding budsm Buddy.

606
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,599
It's a great song, man, it is a great song idea.

607
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,559
It's kind of iconic for me. I think that was

608
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,279
the song that really I was like, this guy sings

609
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:51,319
this song.

610
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,519
Speaker 7: And I made that connection I grew up. We haven't

611
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:56,279
really talked about this. I really had a lot of

612
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:58,400
Billy Joel growing up. My dad was a big fan.

613
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,359
My dad loved the Beatles. Billy Joel loved the Beatles.

614
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,119
They were both born in forty nine. There's definitely an

615
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,559
influence there. And so there was tons of Billy Joel

616
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:10,480
in my childhood. John, same thing for you, right absolutely.

617
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: In fact, now that we've gotten to this album, I

618
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,279
would say, growing up in my childhood, same thing. My

619
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:19,000
dad loved the Beatles, loved Billy Joel. So we were

620
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,519
constantly listening to Billy Joel in the car at home.

621
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,559
And if I had to pick the Billy Joel albums

622
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,680
that were on regular rotation for me growing up, we

623
00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,480
actually had I think my uncle had made a cassette copy.

624
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,519
He had gotten the video of Live at Long Island

625
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,759
the concert, and then he had made a copy of

626
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:44,359
that concert on cassette. So for a a lot of

627
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,000
my childhood, that was the cassette that was just constantly

628
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,599
being played. I still have it somewhere and it still works.

629
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:51,000
I'm just afraid to play it because I don't want

630
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,240
it to break. But that was on all the time, constantly.

631
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:55,759
But the two albums in particular, and if I had

632
00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:58,039
to vote and say, what are my two favorite Billy

633
00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:01,079
Joel albums, it's fifty second Street and It's Innocent Man.

634
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,960
So and I know I know some folks, you know,

635
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,480
they look at this album and there's like, yeah, I

636
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:09,640
mean you got big shot, you got my life. And

637
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,319
then beyond that, there's some other ones on there. I

638
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,079
look at this album and I go, oh, You've got Honesty.

639
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:17,759
I love the song Honesty. I love the song Rosa

640
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:19,960
Linda's Eyes is probably one of my favorite songs of

641
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,359
his half a Mile Away fifty second Street. And it's

642
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,839
funny because I always feel like this album is very jazzy,

643
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,480
and I'm not always a huge fan of jazz. Sorry

644
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,480
to Patrick Cannagallo, one of my co hosts on the

645
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,359
thirty something Movie podcast, who loves jazz, I'm not as

646
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,920
much of a jazz guy, but this one is so

647
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:41,720
very much so, and in particular the song I love

648
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,039
the song Rosalinda's Eyes. And do you guys know the

649
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:47,400
story behind that one? So it's actually a song his

650
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:52,039
mom's name was Rosalind And basically the song is about

651
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,759
a I think it's about a Cuban singer who is

652
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:57,000
singing in a Puerto Rican band and he's kind of

653
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,440
struggling and and it's you know, the song is about

654
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:03,839
him kind of falling for this woman in this club

655
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,359
and her name is Rosa Linda and Billy Joel has

656
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,279
said that he treats this at this song as the

657
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:11,559
love letter he feels like his father always should have

658
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:13,359
written to his mother, and it was also his kind

659
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:15,680
of his thank you to his mother, like thank you

660
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:18,039
for getting me all the lessons you gave me, thank

661
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,759
you for supporting me, thank you for being there even

662
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,799
when you know my father left. Thank you for always

663
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,960
being the one that really pushed me to get to

664
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,440
where I am today. And I love that that this

665
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:30,640
was the love letter that his father should have written

666
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,200
for his mother.

667
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,759
Speaker 4: So he's going to do it for her.

668
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

669
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 5: Feat Love love that album fifty second Street. I love

670
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920
that album.

671
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:42,599
Speaker 3: Okay, in nineteen eighty we have glass houses and this

672
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,319
was a huge album for me as well. Right you've

673
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,200
got It's still rock and roll to me. You may

674
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,640
be right.

675
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: Where are you guys? In this one best album cover

676
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,880
of all Billy Joel album covers. I can remember this one.

677
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,559
I told you when we did our Lionel Richie episode

678
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,359
that seeing him sitting on that chair in our stack

679
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,319
of albums was something I remember clearly. This album is

680
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:08,320
another cover that I remember clearly, him staring at a

681
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,320
giant window about to chunk a rock into it. I

682
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:11,679
love it.

683
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it fits so much with just the opening

684
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,440
of the very first song. You've got the shattering glass

685
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,679
and you May be Right and it just you're you're

686
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,719
off and running at that point.

687
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 3: Really cool. Yeah, it's a it's a neat thing that

688
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,400
they do there.

689
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, And this is one of those you know, I

690
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,800
love this album. I mean I love all of his albums,

691
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,360
but this is one of those where obviously kind of

692
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,679
side one of the album. If you if you break

693
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,800
it in half and you do the side one, side

694
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,360
two of the original release Side one definitely much much

695
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,000
stronger than side two, but still some other really great songs.

696
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,039
Having taken French in middle school and high school, I

697
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,599
do love set atois You were the One, but I

698
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,400
mean the whole first side You May be Right sometimes

699
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,440
a fantasy. Don't ask me why still rock and roll

700
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960
to me? All for Lena. I mean, those are those

701
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,800
are awesome.

702
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:05,119
Speaker 3: Calid, don't don't.

703
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,159
Speaker 4: It's old John still older than me.

704
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,159
Speaker 2: You may be Right. As one of those year worms

705
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:18,760
that routinely comes up in my mind player, I think

706
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,039
it might be from the album and the Chipmunks Chipmunk

707
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:24,880
Punk the album though, just kidding, well not really, That's

708
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,320
probably where I started with it. But it's definitely Billy

709
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,480
Joel that is playing in my head. Chipmunk Punk again

710
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:31,480
making an appearance.

711
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 6: All right.

712
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,679
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty one, we have the album Songs in the Attic.

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This is a collection of live tracks. Are you fan

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of this one? John?

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Speaker 5: You know what, I haven't listened to this one as much.

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Typically when I go, if I want to go for

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live versions of the song, I will tend to gravitate

718
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towards that live at Long Island album. So I've listened

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to this one a bit, but I am so used

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to it because it was on such regular rotation growing up.

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I tend to gravitate over to that one. But still

722
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a really fun collection from a bunch of his early albums.

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Speaker 2: The song off of this album that I love is

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that you don't hear elsewhere is She's Got Away. It

725
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was one that was actually on Cold Spring Harbor, but

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you know what happened with that album, and so the

727
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way that I know it is the live version.

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good one.

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Speaker 5: My wife and I are probably one of our favorite

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songs of his is You're My Home off of Piano Man,

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and I actually just introduced her the other day to

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a cover of it because she also, you know, Helen

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Ready that did the song in the in the Disney

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movie Pete's Dragon. I was thinking, I think it was

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Candles on the Water was the song. She actually does

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a cover version of You're My Home, and so I

738
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played that for my wife the other day. I said,

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you want to mix two things you really enjoy, Billy

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Joel and Helen Ready.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll get Ready there you go.

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Speaker 3: I believe that's the first time that Pete's Dragon has

743
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ever been brought up on our show.

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Speaker 2: That's a travesty right there.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully it won't be the last.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty two, he releases the album The Nylon,

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and this includes songs like Pressure and Alentown, good Night, Sigon.

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Speaker 5: For me the weirdest one and as a kid, I

750
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don't know, maybe just because he said it was weird

751
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on the live album, I was like, I love the

752
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song Scandinavians guys like it is such a weird song.

753
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It's not my favorite one off the album, but you

754
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know that one. I love that one too, But yeah, Alanown, Pressure,

755
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good Night's Saigon Pressure in particular, it was always funny

756
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to me, like, as a kid, I love these songs

757
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and I would We used to have one of those

758
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tape decks that you know, had a microphone attached to it,

759
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and so I think my parents probably switched off the

760
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microphone just so they didn't have to listen to the

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kids sing all the time. But we would take that

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thing and try to do our own little lip sync

763
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karaoke kind of a deal. And so I'm sure it

764
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was hilarious to watch, like this seven year old kid

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singing the song Pressure, because what kind of pressure have

766
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I had in my life up to this point?

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Speaker 2: One of the lyrics and that song you're not allowed

768
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to sing it's seven year old?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think it was because in the

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at least in the live version, I'm trying to remember

771
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about the other one, he does mention Sesame Street in

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the song, So I think as a seven year old,

773
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I was like, no, it's a Billy Joel song that

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mentioned Sesame Street.

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Speaker 4: I'm all like to do, what does it mean?

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Speaker 3: All right? Three other really eventful things happen in nineteen

777
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eighty two. On April fifteenth, nineteen eighty two, Billy Joel's

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involved in a terrible motorcycle accident.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the midst of recording, like they're not even

780
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finished with the album, and it messes up his hand.

781
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It busts up his hands, which is a pretty bad

782
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deal if you were the piano man.

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Speaker 3: If you're the piano man, that's a big deal.

784
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And also in nineteen eighty two, he served divorce papers

786
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from his wife while he's in the hospital recovering from

787
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a busted up hand. When you're a piano player, so

788
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you lay hands on you when you're stuck in a

789
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hospital bit, Oh my gosh. And then also in nineteen

790
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eighty two, his good buddy Paul Simon invites him on

791
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a vacation to Saint Bart's Man, that faithful trip. We'll

792
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talk about just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we

794
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there yet?

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Speaker 3: I think we are.

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Speaker 2: There, guys. It is time for us to discuss an

797
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innocent man. Track by track. See, we gave a whole

798
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bridge of information. Oh you said abridged. I'm sorry, I

799
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messed all of that up. I did a whole bridge

800
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of history right there. What you wanted was an abridged history.

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Speaker 3: You know you mean the bridge right.

802
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Speaker 2: Oh, there you go.

803
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Speaker 5: Bring it back, the bridge which helps us get over

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the river of dreams.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

806
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Speaker 2: Okay, you had to be a big shot, did ye

807
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had to open up your mouth?

808
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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, So we will come back next week

810
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and talk about an innocent man. Track by track, John

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will be back with us.

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Speaker 5: I will wait the longest time. Whatever you need.

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Speaker 3: We will see you guys next week or in a

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few days, whatever it is.

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Speaker 6: So