1 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,359 Speaker 1: And welcome to the Big Podcast on this Wednesday. Today 2 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:31,519 is the nineteenth day of November, Year of Our Lord 3 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,640 twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. So, man, 4 00:00:35,679 --> 00:00:39,479 we got a lot to cover here today. I mean 5 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:44,359 a lot, and I guess we could start with late yesterday. 6 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,280 The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia is in Washington, d C. 7 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Yesterday they had the big ceremonies, and they had the 8 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,399 big dinner last night, and then today the President was 9 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:01,679 over at the Nity Center with the Crown Prince and 10 00:01:01,719 --> 00:01:05,760 they were talking to a global investors that came in 11 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,319 to basically hand their business card to the Crown Prince 12 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,480 and try and do business with the Saudist But in 13 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:17,200 the middle of all this, yesterday afternoon, there's the Crown 14 00:01:17,239 --> 00:01:20,200 Prince sitting in the Oval Office like world leaders do 15 00:01:20,879 --> 00:01:26,280 with the president and the president this is you're just 16 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,480 asking for it. You've got the media in there, and 17 00:01:30,599 --> 00:01:35,799 you're opening up the questions to the media, and you 18 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,439 know what's going to happen. One of the questions Mary 19 00:01:40,519 --> 00:01:44,159 Bruce from ABC News. If she didn't ask it, somebody 20 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:48,280 else would have asked the president about, Hey, you and 21 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:50,599 your family sure are doing a lot of business in 22 00:01:50,879 --> 00:01:57,200 Saudi Arabia. And oh, by the way, your excellency, what 23 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,359 do you say about the killing of Koshogi that our 24 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:06,400 CIA said you ordered? So here's how that whole thing 25 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:07,159 went down. 26 00:02:07,359 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: Christ and your royal minus. The US Intelligence concluded that 27 00:02:11,319 --> 00:02:15,680 you orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist. Nine eleven 28 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:17,840 families are furious that you are here in. 29 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: The oble office. 30 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: Watched Americans Who you and the same team as so 31 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,840 who you with? I'm at ABC News, Sir, you with 32 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:24,840 whom AC News? 33 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,039 Speaker 4: Sir Fakeness? ABC Fakeness one of the worst, one of 34 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,120 the worst in the business. But I'll ask you a question. 35 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,159 I have nothing to do with a family business. I 36 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,039 have left and when I I've devoted one hundred percent 37 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,000 of my energy. What my family does is fine. They 38 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,960 do business all over. They've done very little with Saudi Arabia. 39 00:02:42,039 --> 00:02:43,800 Actually they could. I'm sure they could do a lot, 40 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,520 and anything they've done has been very good. That's what 41 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,479 we've done. We've built a tremendous business for a long time. 42 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,840 I've been very successful. I decided to leave that success 43 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:56,360 bee behind and make America very successful and I've made 44 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,360 America more successful by far than it ever was, and 45 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,879 that it ever could have been. No matter who is president, 46 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,319 there would be nobody bringing in twenty one trillion dollars. 47 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:07,439 That I can tell you right now, as far as 48 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:10,919 this gentleman is concerned, he's done a phenomenal job. You're 49 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,039 mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial. A lot of people 50 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,759 didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about, whether you 51 00:03:17,879 --> 00:03:20,680 like him or didn't like him. Things happened, but he 52 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,000 knew nothing about it, and we can leave it at that. 53 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:24,879 You don't have to embarrass our guests by asking a 54 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,520 question like that. 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 5: It was just as mister President, you allow me to answer. 56 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,599 You know, I feel painful about you know, the families 57 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,199 of and I live in in America, But you know, 58 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,479 we have to focus on reality. Reality based in CI 59 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,400 documents and based on a lot of documents that Lad 60 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,599 he used Saudi people and that event for one main 61 00:03:47,639 --> 00:03:51,319 purpose is to destroy this relation, to destroy the American 62 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Sadi relation. That's the purpose of Mike living. So whoever 63 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,719 buying that, that means they all helping or Lad in 64 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,759 purpose of destroying this relation. He know that strong nation 65 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,479 between America and Saudi Arabia. It's bad for extremism, it's 66 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,400 bad for terurism, and we have to uprove him wrong 67 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,159 and to build our relation, to continue to our relation. 68 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:14,120 It's a critical in the safety of the world. It's 69 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:18,639 a critical against extremism and terrourism. About the generals, it's 70 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,560 really painful to hear, you know, anyone that been losing 71 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,279 his life for you know, no real purpose or not 72 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:31,160 in a illegal way. And it's been painful for us 73 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,319 in Saudi Arabia. We've did all the right steps of investigation, 74 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:39,720 et cetera in Saudi Arabia, and we've improved our system 75 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,319 to be sure that nothing happened like that. And it's 76 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:45,720 painful and it's a huge mistake, and you're doing our 77 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,600 best that this doesn't happen again. 78 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,319 Speaker 1: So I thought, yes, I thought the question was interesting, 79 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,040 But it was also one that you knew was going 80 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:57,600 to be asked somebody in the reporter crowd. They had 81 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:01,160 forty law reporters in the Oval office there. You knew 82 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:06,360 somebody was going to ask about the conflicts with the 83 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:11,680 Trump family and especially about the Koshogi death. So and 84 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,160 the Crown Prince that you know, there's Trump trying everything 85 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,879 he can to fall all over himself to say I'm sorry, 86 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,680 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, don't embarrass our guest. But the 87 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,600 Crown Prince took it up and answered the question. Now, 88 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,800 the question is do you believe any of this? When 89 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,639 r CIA said that they believe that the Crown Prince 90 00:05:36,879 --> 00:05:41,720 ordered the killing of Kashogi. Later, probably a year later, 91 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,959 sometime after the death of Koshogi, that the Saudis had 92 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,079 rounded up I don't know, five six, seven people that 93 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,800 were part of the murder squad, and they sentenced them 94 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,800 to jail. I think they got out pretty quickly. But 95 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,199 I guess real bottom line out of all of this 96 00:06:02,399 --> 00:06:07,639 is one white house press people. If you're going to 97 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,839 do business that way, you're going to get those kinds 98 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:17,800 of questions. Number two is why we are so quick 99 00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:20,120 to believe that the rest of the world lives by 100 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:25,639 our judicial system. It doesn't. And what I read is 101 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,160 that that still goes on over in Saudi Arabia. You 102 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:33,680 talk badly about the royal family, you will go to 103 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:38,439 jail and you may lose your life. They behead people, 104 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,120 They do all kinds of things in different parts of 105 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,879 the world, and so this is it's not the American 106 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:51,480 judicial system, and the Saudis know that. But I find 107 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,079 that if Mary Bruce from ABC wants to be outraged, 108 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,120 but quite honestly, we do business with a lot of 109 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,639 bad people. We do business with China. Talk to them 110 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,199 about human rights they have none, talk to Russia about 111 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:14,160 their endless targeting of civilians in Ukraine with their missiles. 112 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,040 We still do business with them. We take a look 113 00:07:19,079 --> 00:07:21,800 at a lot of the products you're buying lately made 114 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:30,800 in Vietnam. I mean, we do business, and we looked 115 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:33,959 the other way when it comes to the almighty dollar. 116 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Now look at the Crown Prince was sitting there in 117 00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:39,600 the Oval office and had just announced that he was 118 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:45,120 going to invest one trillion dollars in the US. And 119 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,879 you're going, oh, Tom, where are your morals? No, this 120 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,920 is I'm sorry, but we do business with bad people 121 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,000 around the world. If you are in Saudi Arabia, you 122 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:00,680 better follow the rules of Saudi Arabia or they may 123 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:05,600 arrest you or or even kill you. So it's in 124 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,000 a Saudi citizen here gets all the benefits of our 125 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:14,000 judicial system. So I find it fascinating that you can 126 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:20,720 have two different struggles in your mind. One about the 127 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,160 fact that that's their system, those are their rules. That 128 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:31,480 was a citizen of Saudi Arabia and it's not our rules. 129 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,639 And on the other hand, they're an important country for 130 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,919 security in the Middle East, so it's important to be 131 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:43,200 friends with the Saudis, and that's why we are selling 132 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,440 them a whole bunch of F thirty five fighter jets. 133 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,639 So I thought it was interesting, and of course everybody 134 00:08:49,639 --> 00:08:53,080 came out of their shoes. The Kushogi thing with the 135 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,919 White House Press corpt will not stop on that. I 136 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,879 just I see it for what it is, that's all. 137 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:04,960 So that's the big stink that happened in that whole 138 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:13,080 thing Epstein. So since we last visited, the House passed 139 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,639 it what was it, four hundred and twenty seven to 140 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,159 one for the Epstein documents to be released. Then it 141 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,759 went over to the Senate. It was unanimous in the Senate. 142 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,720 So now it's over at the White House and asks 143 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:28,960 we're recording this podcast. President was over at the Kennedy 144 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,879 Center meeting with the Global investors and the Crown Prince. 145 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,879 But when he gets back to the White House, he's 146 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:37,279 expected to sign that. Now the question is will anything 147 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,480 come of that. Barry Levine is an author that has 148 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,080 written extensively going way back to the early days of 149 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,960 Jeffrey Epstein, and this is his reaction to all the 150 00:09:51,039 --> 00:09:52,000 latest news. 151 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,039 Speaker 3: This is really a special, special day for the survivors. 152 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,600 I remember sitting when Judge Berman allowed two dozen of 153 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:06,000 the survivors to come into his court after Jeffrey Epstein's 154 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:09,919 death to make victim impact statements. It was very, very emotional, 155 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,720 very moving. And today the lawmakers applauding the survivors who 156 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,919 were up in the house gallery, and they in turn 157 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,720 applauding the lawmakers below. This was really a special day, 158 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,039 and now it's time to do the work. Now it's 159 00:10:23,039 --> 00:10:26,360 time to get into those files and despite the redactions, 160 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,240 let's really see what's in there and see what we get. Oh, 161 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:32,200 he's heavily invested in the Epstein story, and he was 162 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,759 asked about essentially, if anything's really going to happen in Congress, 163 00:10:36,759 --> 00:10:39,600 were they going to do something about this. Representative Massey 164 00:10:40,039 --> 00:10:44,559 was referring to the SDNY summary statements of witnesses and suspects. 165 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:48,759 They're aware of twenty individuals and we need to see 166 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:52,000 the files to see what the FBI has done over 167 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:55,679 the years in an attempt to corroborate the stories of 168 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,679 the survivors against these men. That material I know is 169 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,200 very in those files. We may not get the names, 170 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:05,120 but we hopefully will get a sense of what they 171 00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:10,279 did to apprehend these individuals. And if nobody else besides 172 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,919 Kleeen Maxwell was apprehended in addition to Jeffrey Epstein, then 173 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,360 why not? 174 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,159 Speaker 1: He said all about the fact that they know that 175 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:21,919 they've identified twenty individuals, So then why don't they release 176 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,799 the names of those twenty individuals. Everybody seems to know 177 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,519 on the inside, they're all carrying the secrets around with them. 178 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:32,720 This guy who has written books about Epstein, he knows 179 00:11:32,759 --> 00:11:38,639 the twenty names he's wondering about apprehended. Why haven't they 180 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,200 apprehended them? What's that all about? Tara Paul Mary is 181 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,080 also another author reporter who has really devoted a lot 182 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,399 of her life to following the Epstein story and the victims. 183 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:52,799 She reacts this. 184 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,039 Speaker 6: Way and that Trump of the dj could find ways 185 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,039 to not release the files, right, then there's this issue 186 00:11:57,039 --> 00:12:02,559 of reactions. You know, what if something like this happens, right, 187 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,000 either it's slow walked, or there's massive reactions, or would 188 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,480 the level of outrage force the issue as it has 189 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:11,000 now with the vote itself. 190 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: I would hope. 191 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 7: So, I mean, I know that a lot of people 192 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:15,960 who are dedicated to his story and to justice have 193 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:18,320 already been very furious about the fact that all we 194 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,600 have seen so far when the DOJ hands over for 195 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,559 anything is just redactions, black lines, black line useless papers, documents, 196 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,240 and documents that are completely useless. Bloomberg actually reported back 197 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:33,120 in August that when they foyed, which is a freedom 198 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,639 of information request, they asked the FBI to hand over 199 00:12:35,879 --> 00:12:40,639 Epstein documents, they had actually redacted President Trump's name. Files 200 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,039 that previously had his name were redacted. So they've already 201 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:46,399 been working on this right now. Hundreds of people have 202 00:12:46,519 --> 00:12:49,679 been going through and looking at the names of prominent men. 203 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,000 So I have to assume that those people who are 204 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,720 working on the freedom of information requests, which is our 205 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,559 freedom and right as Americans to know what the government 206 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,799 is holding on to have already started this process. Back 207 00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:05,120 in July, they announced that there was nothing here, case closed, 208 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,159 although now the case has been reopened, and that's another 209 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,080 way they could stop this. 210 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,039 Speaker 1: See, and this is young lady who really has devoted 211 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,159 a lot. She knows an awful lot, and she sounds 212 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,080 like she's hesitant about whether names will come out. One 213 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,960 of the people that may name names. He listened to him, 214 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,440 Tom Massey, the Republican from Kentucky. He goes down the 215 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,639 list of not the names, but who they are. He 216 00:13:29,799 --> 00:13:33,080 won't say the names, nobody will. 217 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:38,039 Speaker 8: List also includes at least nineteen other individuals, one Hollywood 218 00:13:38,039 --> 00:13:41,480 producer worth a few hundred million dollars, one royal prince, 219 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,000 one high profile individual in the music industry, one very 220 00:13:45,039 --> 00:13:49,600 prominent banker, one high profile government official, one high profile 221 00:13:49,639 --> 00:13:53,159 former politician, one owner of a car company in Italy, 222 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:58,080 one rock star, one magician. At least six billionaires, including 223 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,679 a billionaire from Canada. We know these people exist in 224 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:02,840 the FBI files. 225 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,279 Speaker 1: See, he's got it right down, and he knows who 226 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:11,159 they are. He's got them by occupation. He also was 227 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,639 asked about, well, if nothing happens to all this stuff, 228 00:14:14,639 --> 00:14:16,639 would you be willing to stand up on the floor 229 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:20,360 of the House of Representatives, where apparently there's some legal 230 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,879 protection and name the names. 231 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,559 Speaker 9: We absolutely would do that, Marjorie would do that I 232 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,360 would do that. They are Democrats who would do that. 233 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:34,879 But that's not the right path forward. That's the last 234 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,039 effort if we hit all of the walls. But so 235 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,600 far we're mantioning it through the walls and over the walls, 236 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,440 and we're getting this done. 237 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:45,039 Speaker 1: Forgive me. I'm still skeptical if we're going to ever 238 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:47,399 ever find out any of this stuff. And all they're 239 00:14:47,399 --> 00:14:52,120 going to do is, like I told you yesterday, there's 240 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,360 some of the lawyers that say they're working for the 241 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,759 victims are going to drag them through the mud. They're 242 00:14:56,759 --> 00:15:00,440 going to try and have congressional hearings and god knows 243 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,600 what else they're going to have. Howard Lutnik, he's yeah 244 00:15:05,679 --> 00:15:11,519 Secretary of Commerce, very wealthy Wall Street guy before becoming 245 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,039 Secretary of Commerce, and he was talking about this like 246 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:19,480 he may know more than what he's letting on. Here's 247 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,200 Howard Luttnight. 248 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 10: I assume way back when they traded those videos in 249 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:29,039 exchange for him getting that eighteen months set allowed him 250 00:15:29,039 --> 00:15:34,279 to have visits and be out of jail. I mean, 251 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,120 he's a serial sex offender. 252 00:15:37,679 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: How could he. 253 00:15:38,159 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 10: Get eighteen months and be able to go to his 254 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,799 office during the day and have visitors and stuff must 255 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,879 have been a trade. So my assumption not I have 256 00:15:47,919 --> 00:15:51,200 no knowledge. My assumption is there was a trade for 257 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:54,279 the videos because there were people on those videos. 258 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,279 Speaker 1: Wealthy guy probably does know who was involved. Without that 259 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,240 was his theory. And then I think the thing that 260 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:04,159 thinks cake Larry Summers is the only number, say, only 261 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:08,360 name that's really come out and very prominent economist, former 262 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:12,399 harp the Harvard president. He's a professor university professor, which 263 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,120 is the highest title at Harvard. He was the former 264 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:21,639 secretary of the Treasury. And how embarrassing is how weird 265 00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:25,279 is this? Some of the emails that they have found 266 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,799 this came from the from the Epstein Estate show that 267 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:37,039 Larry Summers was asking dating advice from Jeffrey Epstein. He's 268 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:42,120 a grown man, good grief, wow who and he's married, 269 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,120 but he was asking in emails he had he was 270 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:50,759 the mentor to some woman and he kept trying to 271 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,279 hit on this woman and the woman was not going 272 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,279 for it, and he wanted to get information from Jeffrey 273 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:00,799 Epstein about how what's in need to do to be 274 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:06,440 successful in getting this woman. So don't you find that 275 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,400 strange that a growing I don't know forty. He must 276 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,039 have been fifty sixty years old, and he's asking about 277 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:19,359 how to hit on some woman that worked for him. Yeah, 278 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,440 I know the rules say you can't do that, but 279 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,720 I just thought that was that was weird and creepy. 280 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,200 So there's two other stories I've got to get to 281 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:35,799 because both of them, oh my, they are big oopsie stories. Oopsie. 282 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:42,160 On the first one, which is the Comy indictment, there 283 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,119 was a hearing today at the Federal court in Alexandria, Virginia, 284 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,440 Eastern District of Virginia, and the lawyers there were basically 285 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,799 trying to get the judge to throw out the indictment 286 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:59,160 against James Comy, And what we found out was that 287 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:06,039 the judge started asking the US attorney, the attorney representing 288 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:09,359 the United States, No, Lindsey Halligan is the US attorney, 289 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,839 but one of people on her staff, the attorney handling 290 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:15,599 the case in the court, was basically asked about the 291 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,400 process of getting this indictment from the grand jury. And 292 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:25,960 what the lawyer admitted to was that the grand jury 293 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,960 never saw the indictment, never read it, never even crossed 294 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,240 their eyes, and everybody's mouth dropped open. This was a shocker. 295 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:43,759 The grand jury never saw the indictment. Apparently there was 296 00:18:43,799 --> 00:18:47,960 some kind of mix up, and so they had hearing 297 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:50,200 with a grand jury, but the grand jury never saw 298 00:18:50,519 --> 00:18:54,359 the indictment. So they scrambled around back at the office 299 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,279 and then went and got the grand jury foreman to 300 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,240 sign the indictment page. But that was attached to the 301 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,759 indictment that nobody else saw. I mean, this sounds like 302 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,519 even a first year law student would know how to 303 00:19:10,039 --> 00:19:14,519 do better than this. A former federal judge out of Florida, 304 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,319 Jeff Schwartz, weighs in on what happened with this fiasco. 305 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,279 Speaker 11: Okay, I think this all started when the judge asked 306 00:19:24,279 --> 00:19:30,599 a question about a declaration memo, and the Assistant Attorney 307 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,960 General refused to answer the question because he had been 308 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,319 instructed by Todd Blanche's office not to answer that question. 309 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,200 That's when I think the judge decided to dig in 310 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,079 with the question. He had been waiting all morning to ask, 311 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:46,880 and that was based upon the order that was entered 312 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,720 a few days ago that in fact, there was this 313 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,839 long two hours where they were doing things and there 314 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,559 were two different indictments. He wants to know, how did 315 00:19:57,599 --> 00:20:01,960 you get the jurors in the jury room to look 316 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,480 at this second indictment with only two counts in seven minutes? 317 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,039 Speaker 1: How did you do this? 318 00:20:07,799 --> 00:20:11,079 Speaker 11: And all that turned out was all that happened was 319 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,279 that Lindsay Halligan took it to the four person and 320 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:18,319 one other person and had them sign it. Those jurors 321 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,559 never voted on the second indictment, so therefore there was 322 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,920 no indictment. And if there was no indictment, Comy wasn't charged. 323 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,599 He wasn't charged. The statute of limitations ran, and the 324 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,519 case is over. So the original appointed US attorney for 325 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:39,880 the Eastern District of Virginia, the guy who eventually resigned 326 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,079 because he was getting pressure to prosecute James Comy, and 327 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,279 he looked and wrote a memo apparently that there wasn't 328 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,880 enough evidence to charge Comy with anything. And that's what 329 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:56,000 the judge was asking about. And that's why this lower 330 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,240 ranking attorney was told, don't answer the question if the 331 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,960 judge asked you that, but look where it brought them. 332 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,279 This maybe. 333 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,559 Speaker 1: Basically throw the case out because of the fact that 334 00:21:10,599 --> 00:21:13,119 they mishandled the legal process. 335 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 11: No, that really wouldn't happen because the essence of what's 336 00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:22,039 happening and the motion itself is that in fact the DOJS, 337 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:25,279 through the other representatives that handled this case, said no 338 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,119 charges here. And it was in those last few days 339 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,680 that the rush took place to get Halligan in place. 340 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:36,319 What we saw was the crossroads between arrogance and ignorance, 341 00:21:36,759 --> 00:21:41,039 and they both crossed, Halligan being the ignorance, arrogance coming 342 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:44,559 out of Pambondi and Todd Blanche and they crossed at 343 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:48,720 It's a very crucial point and there's no cure for it. Well, 344 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,640 first of all, Halligan had no business handling this case. 345 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,960 She worked for a insurance defense firm in Miami called 346 00:21:58,039 --> 00:22:03,680 Cole Cassane and Scott, and mister Scott is a former 347 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,480 a US attorney and he's a former district judge, and 348 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:11,319 she had a source to find out information. If she 349 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,839 didn't know what she was doing, she didn't know what 350 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,119 she was doing. And the big key to that is 351 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,519 when she told the grand jurors that mister Comy had 352 00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:23,759 no right not to testify at the trial. I mean, 353 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,880 I don't know who taught her criminal procedures, but I 354 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,680 think the Fifth Amendment is still in place in the 355 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,440 federal system that says you can't be forced to testify. 356 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: So I've heard before that this Lindsay Halligan is an 357 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,839 insurance lawyer, had never prosecuted anything in her life. I 358 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,799 did not apparently know how to what to do process 359 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:51,119 wise with the grand jury, so she blew that so 360 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,799 that the indictment was never read by the grand jury. 361 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,599 Was signed by a foreman of the grand jury, but 362 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,400 the grand jury itself did not see the indictment. Means 363 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,799 that the indictment did not happen, and the statute of 364 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:09,119 limitations has subsequently run, so they cannot go back unless 365 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,039 the judge pulls out some ruling that says the case 366 00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:15,319 can go on. This looks like a judge is going 367 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,599 to rule this case is over. And poor o Lindsey Halligan. 368 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,720 I mean, she should have said I'm not qualified. And 369 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,519 it really does make you wonder. You don't even have 370 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:29,200 to be a first year law student to know any 371 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,720 of us that have watched anything about I take the 372 00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:36,359 Fifth is that you have the right to take the 373 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,880 Fifth Amendment and not testify. And she made an argument 374 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,200 in court that he had to testify. So she's not 375 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,000 looking good out of this, The DOJ is not looking 376 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:52,480 good out of this. The idea of going after Camy 377 00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:57,599 was just totally mishandled. It looks like from afar, well, 378 00:23:57,599 --> 00:24:01,319 see if the judge makes a rule that somehow going 379 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,000 to keep this thing alive. But I don't think so. 380 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,720 The other big oopsie of the day is remember the 381 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,440 big hubub about Texas and the fact that they were 382 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,160 going to do redistricting, and by doing the redistricting they 383 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,759 were going to be able to produce five more Republicans 384 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:25,279 that will therefore be members of the House of Representatives 385 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:28,759 after the midterm election, and that the Republicans will keep 386 00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:34,440 control of the House. And then California responded by saying, Okay, 387 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,240 we're going to do the same thing. And subsequent to that, 388 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,200 there's been five or six seven states they all kind 389 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,039 of cancel themselves out. Well, a federal judge, a judge 390 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:51,279 appointed by Donald Trump, ruled that the Texas map is 391 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:58,559 not valid because they used racial reasons for drawing the map, 392 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,519 and that get thrown out. Molly Hemingway from the Federalist 393 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,599 blames this. 394 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:09,039 Speaker 12: So that's why these two members on this three member 395 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,200 panel are trying to say that it's not partisan, that 396 00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:14,880 the Republicans and the Texas Legislature were not doing this 397 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,920 for partisan reasons. They're saying they did it for racial reasons, 398 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:20,279 because then it would be able to be reviewed by 399 00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:20,759 their court. 400 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 2: But it's kind of a difficult case to making. 401 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 12: There's a long opinion, but it's going to be difficult 402 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,759 to see how that goes when it gets to the 403 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,119 Supreme Court level, in part because the facts of the 404 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,720 case do seem to indicate President Trump asked the Texas 405 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:37,119 legislature to give him five more seats for political gain. 406 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:40,160 They said, we'll do that for political gain. You have 407 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,039 the testimony with the person who drew, who drew the district, 408 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:46,839 saying I did this to maximize Republican gains. And so 409 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,519 then the court is saying, no, actually they did it 410 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,400 for racial reasons. That's something that might be not seen 411 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,519 as holding under scrutiny when it gets to the spring. 412 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Apparently, the courts of ruled in the past. Supreme Court 413 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,519 is ruled in the past that the court have no 414 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,720 business interfering in partisan politics, and so if they redraw 415 00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:09,480 maps based upon partisanship, that the Court do not have 416 00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:12,599 the authority to tell them that they can't do that. 417 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:19,599 But if they draw a map based upon racial identities 418 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,839 racial population, that is something that the court can review. 419 00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:27,799 That is why the Texas officials kept saying, we're doing 420 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,359 the redrawing for partisan reasons so that the judges won't 421 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,839 review it. But when it was brought to court, the 422 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,400 panel of judges have said, looks like he did this 423 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:41,160 for racial reasons, so they can review it. 424 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,559 Speaker 4: Molly goes on, if it's not the right thing to 425 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:46,640 do in Texas, how could it be the right thing 426 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,559 to do in California. 427 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, so it's different cases, but it's a similar situation 428 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,319 in that the DOJ has said that California did use 429 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,359 too much race in their redistricting in California. Now again 430 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,799 we've got Supreme Court presidents saying you have to separate 431 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:04,400 out race from politics. Those things tend to overlap quite 432 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,720 a bit, though. People of certain racial groups tend to 433 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,279 vote in groups, and so it can be difficult to do. 434 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,880 But it does show really how much better Democrats have 435 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,160 been at maximizing their congressional districts relative to Republicans. You 436 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,559 have states that have forty forty five percent Republicans with 437 00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:24,440 no representation in Congress, and the Republicans tend to know 438 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,880 they're starting this game a little bit more, but they 439 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,160 are well behind, decades behind where Democrats have been. And 440 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,559 you can also see the tenacity with which people like 441 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,640 Newsom are willing to push it even further. 442 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: If this, if this stays and Texas map has been 443 00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,200 thrown out, then they're not going to be able to 444 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:48,799 add the five more Republicans. Meantime, California, in response to Texas, 445 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,480 they went ahead and passed their redistricting and if that 446 00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,599 doesn't get shot down, then that means that they're going 447 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,359 to be able to produce five more Democrats. It was 448 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,160 where California was canceling out Texas. But if Texas has 449 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,559 been canceled out by the courts, then the California Prop 450 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,920 fifty adds five more Democrats. Then the Democrats are going 451 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,160 to take control of the House if this stands the 452 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,720 way it is. So this afternoon, Gavin Newsom sent out 453 00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:24,519 a tweet I'll read it for you, says Donald Trump 454 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:28,240 and Greg Abbott played with fire and got burned and 455 00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:32,279 democracy won. This ruling is a win for Texas and 456 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,400 for every American who fights for free and fair elections. 457 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:40,039 And he was responding to the story that federal judges 458 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:44,359 blocked Texas from using their redrawn map for the twenty 459 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:51,440 twenty six midterm elections. So he's right, he got you know, 460 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,960 sometimes I wonder about the Republicans and are they only 461 00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:59,000 able to play checkers? Do they not know how to 462 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:03,240 play chess? If you change your map to get five 463 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:08,039 more Republicans, they didn't think that anybody else would do 464 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,240 the opposite, and California did so. I like I said, 465 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,279 if it stays this way, then the Democrats are going 466 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:19,119 to have a huge advantage on gaining control of the 467 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:23,039 House of Representatives after the midterm. Back to Molly Hemingwaye 468 00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:27,599 talking about Republicans have not been good at this redistricting 469 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,799 thing for a long time. 470 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 12: If you look only at the last year, that's a 471 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:33,240 very good argument. When you look at the last few 472 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,400 decades of what has happened with redistricting again, you have 473 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,880 Democrat controlled legislatures and Democrat majority states that have really 474 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,640 gone almost to the limits of what they can do. 475 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,160 Republicans again, just haven't done it anywhere near where they could, 476 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,400 even in states that they control or have supermajorities in. 477 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,920 So some people can argue that it was all done 478 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,640 by this trigger, but other people could say, unless you 479 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,200 have mutually assured destruction, it will just continue to be 480 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,559 an unfair situation for republic voters. 481 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,559 Speaker 2: So quick prediction on what the Supreme Court will there. 482 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 12: They have been clear that there are multiple problems with 483 00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:09,720 how this case has gone. With cases like this, including 484 00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:12,359 you're not supposed to nullify a map in the middle 485 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,440 of an election. And Texas is right now having qualifying 486 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,799 rounds for the next election, so there are multiple grounds 487 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,799 on which they might not like this interim decision. 488 00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,839 Speaker 1: What a mess. Huh, what a mess. So we'll keep 489 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,160 an eye on the courts to see how that whole 490 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:34,119 thing works out. Snap food stamps, they have been restored 491 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,440 since government opened its doors back up again, but not 492 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:44,200 completely brooked rawlins. Brooke Rowlins, who's the Secretary of Agriculture, 493 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,880 was asked today about the fact of how is everybody 494 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,440 getting their food stamps back up again, and she's talking 495 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,319 about how people have to reregister because they have found 496 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,720 huge fraud in the food stamp program. Here's Brook Rolin. 497 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,839 Speaker 13: Almost forty percent increase under Joe Biden of what was 498 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,640 spent in the people that entered the food stamp slash 499 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,839 SNAP program. One hundred and eighty six thousand dead people 500 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,759 are receiving Snap benefits. 501 00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:16,599 Speaker 11: Half a million. 502 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 13: People are getting paid twice. We've made hundreds of arrests. 503 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,559 We have a lot more to do. But this was 504 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:25,680 I think an unattended, unintended consequence of the Democrats shutting 505 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,640 the government down for forty three days. Is it shined 506 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,599 this very bright light on one of their pet programs 507 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,880 and now has given us a platform to completely deconstruct 508 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:36,599 the program. 509 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:39,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a mess too. Seems like a lot of 510 00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,160 the things that the government does is just they're not 511 00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:46,480 working out all that well. Healthcare. I've been talking about 512 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,559 the fact that I heard the President talk about forget 513 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,480 giving the money to the insurance companies on healthcare, because 514 00:31:55,559 --> 00:32:00,640 when the premiums are the subsidies that are supposed to 515 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,039 be made for the people that are on Obamacare, that 516 00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,559 doesn't go to them, it goes to the insurance companies. 517 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,599 And the President suggested sending the money directly to the 518 00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:13,640 people and let them buy whatever amount of insurance that 519 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:19,559 they want or figure out their own medical care on 520 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,759 who they want to go to. And if you're spending 521 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,680 money that you've been given. You're going to be much 522 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,880 more keen about picking people that don't rip you off anyway. 523 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,480 Senator Bill Cassidy is a doctor. He's the head of 524 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:41,720 the Committee on Health and Welfare in the Senate, and 525 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,240 he was asked about the status of the idea of 526 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:49,240 giving the money directly to the people. Here's what he 527 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:49,759 had to say. 528 00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:52,039 Speaker 14: Yeah, Ryan, you know, we're having a Center Finance Committee 529 00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:55,240 hearing and we'll hear about the situation. But let's elaborate 530 00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:59,000 on the president's plan. We have twenty six billion dollars available, 531 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,920 if you will, or what Joe Biden put in as 532 00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:06,079 enhanced premium tax credits. The Democrats want to send that 533 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,279 twenty six billion dollars back to the insurance companies. They 534 00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,720 take twenty percent of that for profit and overhead. That's 535 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,680 law under Obamacare. They're allowed to take that twenty percent. 536 00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:18,799 The President and I want to send one hundred percent 537 00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:21,680 to patients to put into an account to spend on 538 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440 the healthcare that they want, not just the healthcare that 539 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,440 the insurance company allows them to have. And by the way, 540 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,960 with this money, they can pay their deductible and their 541 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,720 copay Under the Democratic plan, there'll be a maybe a 542 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,079 seven thousand dollars deductible before you get into the insurance. 543 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,480 Under the Republican plan, there'll be one thousand to two 544 00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:42,640 thousand dollars to pay for that health care before you 545 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,079 kind of start paying out a pocket for your deductible. 546 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,839 It works for the patient, It gives power to the patient. 547 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,960 I'm with the President. This is a better plan. So 548 00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:53,880 we need Democrats to buy in if we're going to 549 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,000 get this pass. First and secondly, right you're defending given 550 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,480 one hundred percent of the money to the insurance company 551 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,079 so they can take twenty percent off for profit and 552 00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:06,279 overhead versus one hundred percent to the patient, so they 553 00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:08,360 can spend it on the health care they want. Now, 554 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,440 that should be an American message, not a Republican, not 555 00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:14,639 a Democrat. It is an American message. And so I'm 556 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:18,760 hoping that Democrats are first Americans and second and secondly 557 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,360 their party because we need to have an American solution. 558 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,400 This is an American solution. So in the One Big 559 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,239 Beautiful Bill Working the Tax Cut for Working Families Bill, 560 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,559 we actually set up the legal framework then that we 561 00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:35,239 would use going forward, and if it takes us like 562 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,119 two and a half months to get the money in 563 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,159 the first two months of the year. You just save 564 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,760 your receipts, you submit them to your account, and you 565 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,960 get reimbursed. And so there's actually a little bit of 566 00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:48,639 a fudgeon here that can give us a little extra 567 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,639 time to get it done. By the way President Trump 568 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,480 did Operation Warp Speed, people said it could take as 569 00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:56,719 much as ten years to get a vaccine for COVID. 570 00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:59,360 That guy got it done in ten months. We can 571 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,519 get this tony than faster. 572 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: So I don't expect that you would have any sympathy 573 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,280 for the insurance companies, but you also can't blame them. 574 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,039 A number of them are dropping out of even doing 575 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:13,239 any business with the ACA Affordable Care Act. People that 576 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,840 sign up, they don't want to sign anybody up. At 577 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,480 the lost four hundred million dollars this last year. Others 578 00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:22,480 are also losing huge amounts of money, and they're going, 579 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:24,960 we're not going to participate. So I don't know what 580 00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:28,119 kind of insurance companies are going to be left. But 581 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,440 it's a it's a bad product, it's a lousy product. 582 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,760 It's not fair to the people who have signed up 583 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,599 for this. They were hoping that they would solve all 584 00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:42,960 their problems, and it just creates more problems. So Wall Street, 585 00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:48,320 let's see, we've been having problems there lately, but not today. Nope, 586 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,400 optimism out there that maybe I don't know, buying another dip. 587 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,039 The dowo not much to talk about, but it was positive, 588 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,559 which is a lot to talk about. The Dow up 589 00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:02,000 forty seven to close at forty six thousand and one, 590 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:06,360 thirty eight s and P up twenty four, Nasdaq up 591 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,000 one hundred and thirty one. The price of gold was 592 00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:13,119 up seven dollars to four thousand and seventy three. Oil 593 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,400 went back down again, down a buck and a half, 594 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,440 down to fifty nine dollars now for one barrel of oil. 595 00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:23,199 So that's it for today. Thank you for coming by. 596 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,760 We're gonna try this again tomorrow and I hope to 597 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:38,360 see you them