Speaker 1: No, my heart was not made of glass.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I said, yes, sir, and I asked thank you.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I was diagnosed about six weeks ago with caring too
Speaker 1: much for other people, caring.
Speaker 3: Too much about it my heart.
Speaker 1: Philly cheese steaks, and uh, but I needed it fixed
Speaker 1: and I ignored a lot of signs. And who do
Speaker 1: we have on the show all the time?
Speaker 3: Doctor Henry Sadlow. That's right, Hello, mister Sadlow, Good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 5: Glad to be here.
Speaker 3: We see you.
Speaker 1: Man, and you were my Denny Crumb because you went
Speaker 1: down the bench and you looked at doctor Silake and
Speaker 1: you went get in the game when I described to
Speaker 1: you what was going on with with my heart.
Speaker 5: A highly experienced doctor Slunky has twenty five years of
Speaker 5: experience and interventional cardiology, and he can do the tough cases.
Speaker 5: He can anybody can do the easy cases.
Speaker 3: Doctor Silwake.
Speaker 4: Take us back to the day you have Tony's on
Speaker 4: your table, you're doing the scope. You know he's got
Speaker 4: one hundred percent blockages. His widow maker, what were you
Speaker 4: thinking when you started to save his life.
Speaker 2: I was thinking Tony's pretty lucky guy.
Speaker 3: No, No, I mean, what the hell were you thinking
Speaker 3: saving his life.
Speaker 2: Doctor, because he's doing the Orlando trip and he's telling
Speaker 2: me all these busy schedule he was doing. And this
Speaker 2: guy having AE hundred percent mid LED, but he has
Speaker 2: God on his side. He made coladals to that digital
Speaker 2: part of LED, and that actually was helping me out.
Speaker 2: But whenever he was exerting walking around, he was feeling
Speaker 2: short of breath and chest pain and he was not
Speaker 2: feeling that great whenever. And he knew something going on
Speaker 2: with him before the procedure, so he.
Speaker 1: Said, and he said that to me. On the table,
Speaker 1: there was a piece of plastic that was in front
Speaker 1: of my face. Doctor Solanki came around, moved it and
Speaker 1: got about two inches from my face and said, you
Speaker 1: should not be able and the only reason you are
Speaker 1: alive is because your heart did form those those those
Speaker 1: side feeder branches feeder branches.
Speaker 2: Right, collaterals or your own bypass correct right?
Speaker 3: And why did I do that?
Speaker 1: Why did I form those?
Speaker 2: It's very interesting. Nobody really knows who makes collateral who don't.
Speaker 2: There a genetic Uh, some people make good collaterals, some
Speaker 2: people don't. So you are those lucky ones. You make
Speaker 2: great coladals, and you kind of get protection for your
Speaker 2: heart attack by these coletals.
Speaker 3: Is an odd look at the guy. It's in great shape.
Speaker 4: I mean, I good find the guy alive. But he
Speaker 4: works out every day. Every morning, he's up, he's walking
Speaker 4: to the Jewish community center. He does all the right things.
Speaker 4: Is it shocking for somebody with his physique to get
Speaker 4: this issue?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that uncommon.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 2: Yes, sometimes we see uh this block is or heart
Speaker 2: attacking people who are running even marathon.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know so this.
Speaker 5: I think the people that do exercise have a better
Speaker 5: chance of developing collateral flow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said right, You're like if the last fifteen years, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, if you didn't worked out every day,
Speaker 1: that those things might have not formed, which ended up
Speaker 1: saving my life. But it was it was your all
Speaker 1: stick touitiveness. I'll steal a Jobe Hall line. But you
Speaker 1: said again, I was on I was in the hospital.
Speaker 1: My insurance company had said we don't have enough here,
Speaker 1: but doctor Solanki, you said, we don't care, We're going ahead.
Speaker 2: Why did you do that? Well? When I talked to
Speaker 2: your story was very concerning, and when I saw your
Speaker 2: ekzy that was very abnormal. So I got phone call
Speaker 2: from my office saying insurance's denying it. I said, don't worry,
Speaker 2: we will take care of it, and we have enough information.
Speaker 2: We cannot a heart attack patients go away. If instances
Speaker 2: some reason not approving it, we can always appeal it.
Speaker 2: We can always write a letter. We can do so
Speaker 2: many things. We got to do what we got to do,
Speaker 2: take care to the patient.
Speaker 1: I get a little most it's taking me back to
Speaker 1: that time right now and it's still.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 1: But I'm sitting there and listen to him talk. His
Speaker 1: commitment is saying, we don't care. We're gonna sit here.
Speaker 3: Line.
Speaker 5: So do you know when it started, though, Tony? Is
Speaker 5: when I was in my car getting ready to walk
Speaker 5: in the Student rec Center University litvel Gym. I was
Speaker 5: off on a Friday. I get this call from Tony
Speaker 5: Venetti and he says, Doc. He goes, I haven't really
Speaker 5: been honest with you a calcium scan again, but but
Speaker 5: now I'm having chest pain and we're doing activity and
Speaker 5: band chest pain. I said, you need a hardcath. You
Speaker 5: don't need a calcium scan.
Speaker 4: Doctor sago, how come when I called you? I guess
Speaker 4: every case is different, because when I called you with
Speaker 4: the exact same synctrumes. You said, hey, you're probably fine,
Speaker 4: and if you see a bright light, run towards it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, well I said, take.
Speaker 4: No, absolutely, but in all seriousness, uh, it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: what you look like on the exterior, you know. Doctor
Speaker 4: Solanki was just talking about some people were running marathons.
Speaker 4: The same issue a calcium score. And by the way,
Speaker 4: we're getting our calcium score done today.
Speaker 1: Both of you are getting it done today.
Speaker 4: Yes, folks, have your primary care physician, contact University of
Speaker 4: Louisville and get this calcium score done.
Speaker 2: It puts you.
Speaker 5: It won't tell you if you're going to have a
Speaker 5: heart attack at all, but it does put you in
Speaker 5: a low, medium, or high risk category right and even
Speaker 5: all those categories. What it does it motivates you to
Speaker 5: do the right things like to eat an American Heart
Speaker 5: Association Healthy Heart debt, Mediterranean debt, to get that aerobic
Speaker 5: exercise one hundred and fifty minutes a week. But most importantly,
Speaker 5: and Tony won't do it again, is to don't ignore symptoms.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's no question. Now the procedure, Doctor Slonki, Now
Speaker 1: your entire team is Jewish Heart and lung center is
Speaker 1: where I was the whole team, from the top to
Speaker 1: bottom like you. Here's what I described it to my wife.
Speaker 1: I said, everybody in this hospital stay he's in their
Speaker 1: lane and does their job like everybody's an expert. They
Speaker 1: stay in their lane. I'm here to do this. They
Speaker 1: and then they would explain it to me, and then
Speaker 1: they would do it, and then the next person would
Speaker 1: come in. I'm here to do this, and we're going
Speaker 1: to do this. They were. They were awesome from the
Speaker 1: top to the bottom. Now you doctor SLACKI so you
Speaker 1: you see the blockage. I've described it the surgery room
Speaker 1: like a sports bar because the TV. The TV is
Speaker 1: sitting there and your heart is on there and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my, this is crazy. But you have to guide
Speaker 1: to get this two stints into that artery?
Speaker 2: You what is you?
Speaker 1: What do you have to do to make sure you
Speaker 1: don't poke a hole in the whole artery?
Speaker 5: Right? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent question, because, uh, this proceeds, particularly when one
Speaker 2: hundred person blocked, it needs a lot of experience.
Speaker 3: So we have very good wires.
Speaker 2: They can go through that blocked depends how the block looks,
Speaker 2: and then we have a low profile balloon, we can
Speaker 2: inflate it, we give medications to help if there is
Speaker 2: a blood clot, and then we size it. We call
Speaker 2: it intravasculture sounds in your case, we did that so
Speaker 2: we know exact size of the vessel. And then we
Speaker 2: bring the exact size of the stent. And then after
Speaker 2: deploy the stent, we inflate with one other balloon called
Speaker 2: post dialutation, so the stent is fully expanded so it
Speaker 2: does not make repeat blood clot or repeat heart attack,
Speaker 2: and your stents stay open hopefully for your entire life.
Speaker 1: Why why two stints?
Speaker 2: Because you are a long block is the area of
Speaker 2: block is was very long, so you need two stints.
Speaker 3: Doctor blockage.
Speaker 4: Doctor get me the perfect jumping off point, you said,
Speaker 4: for the rest of your life, and go to doctor
Speaker 4: Henry said, Loo, he's got a brand new widow maker,
Speaker 4: compliments of doctor Schlocke.
Speaker 3: So can you just eat Philly cheese steaks and cheeseburgers
Speaker 3: now he's got.
Speaker 5: So what happens is doctor Slunky took the balloon in
Speaker 5: the stent and he remodeled the soft plaque, which is
Speaker 5: like playdough, so that the artery is open. What Tony
Speaker 5: does now will determine whether that cholesterol will build back
Speaker 5: up inside the step. Okay, so that's you know, balls
Speaker 5: in your court now yeah, I say, you're good.
Speaker 3: Okay, And Tony's doing cardiac rehab.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been great Northeast, great staff there.
Speaker 1: So this is the fascinating thing. I've always said, if
Speaker 1: you can do anything and walk away with one item
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, that's it's a four
Speaker 1: hour seminar. You walk away with one thing that you
Speaker 1: use the rest of your life, that's a win for you.
Speaker 1: So I've gone to two and this is what freaks
Speaker 1: me out because I'm more of a late well you know,
Speaker 1: lift weights than a cardio. So I go in. They
Speaker 1: do my my blood pressure. He was at a number.
Speaker 1: I get on the treadmill and the elliptical for forty
Speaker 1: five minutes straight. I get off it. My blood pressure
Speaker 1: was twenty points lower.
Speaker 3: Not higher.
Speaker 1: And I said it's the and the lady looked at me, going, hey, doum,
Speaker 1: this is what I do. This is why cardio is
Speaker 1: better for your heart than lifting. It's not lifting's not
Speaker 1: bad for your heart, but the cardio is really what's
Speaker 1: healthy for your heart.
Speaker 5: The best medicine that I can prescribe is not a medicine.
Speaker 5: It's an aerobic exercise prescription.
Speaker 3: There you go, that's what I'm right.
Speaker 1: It does Manami do that for you in your workouts.
Speaker 4: Manami Jones has me on the rolling machines, he has
Speaker 4: me boxing. But here's the thing, Uh, Doctor Silwake and
Speaker 4: doctor Sadloe says he's had this. I've always thought about
Speaker 4: my heart as a ticking time bomb. Now he goes
Speaker 4: through this the way he looks like, and he exercised
Speaker 4: all the time. Now I'm scared to death. I'm wondering
Speaker 4: when's mind. That's why I'm getting my calcium scored done
Speaker 4: today to find out what category am in. Have I
Speaker 4: regressed in the past three or four years since my
Speaker 4: last scan Because you can't go back. You can't undo
Speaker 4: the plaque, can you?
Speaker 3: Or can you?
Speaker 5: So a couple of things. There are two types fax
Speaker 5: flam no, okay, there's two types of plaque. The CALCIFAD
Speaker 5: hard plaque that we can see with a ninety nine
Speaker 5: dollars test that puts us in a low, medium or
Speaker 5: high risk category. We're going to try to work on that.
Speaker 5: But the soft plaque that we don't see there are
Speaker 5: other ways to determine that a hardcath is a gold standard.
Speaker 5: But there are other tests, like a stress test will
Speaker 5: tell you if you've got significant soft plaque in addition,
Speaker 5: So an artery might have thirty percent calcified plaque, but
Speaker 5: another sixty percent soft plaque. It's a ninety percent total
Speaker 5: and there's a high probability that that person will flunk
Speaker 5: a stress test, and then I'll send them to doctor
Speaker 5: Slanki for a elective hardcas. Yours was a mergent what.
Speaker 1: You've done this twenty something years? Have you seen more
Speaker 1: of my cases? Our heart's getting worse in America? Are
Speaker 1: we Is it about the same?
Speaker 2: No, he's getting worsed, Tony. Have we seen two things now?
Speaker 2: One needs or country's aisying. So we a lot of
Speaker 2: people eighty plus all of them are calcium as Henry said,
Speaker 2: and that I have bad blockcase. So that's a whole
Speaker 2: different situation. And in your age group, we're also seeing
Speaker 2: a lot of again these plaques building up and they're
Speaker 2: upstring and causing heart attack. So we're seeing increase in
Speaker 2: the heart disease on both ends of the population.
Speaker 3: So doctor Samlo, you're looking at a couple of go ahead.
Speaker 5: So the soft plaque you can remove that if you're
Speaker 5: very good. Dean Ornish did studies in the late eighties
Speaker 5: people on vegetarian dots. They did a hardcat and then
Speaker 5: they did a hardcat six months later and some of
Speaker 5: the soft plaque had regressed, so very low LDL cholesterol
Speaker 5: with statins and diet and that.
Speaker 3: Means low density LiPo protein.
Speaker 5: Impressed pressed.
Speaker 2: There ahead.
Speaker 5: But so the soft plaque you can remove. And that's
Speaker 5: the goal is to exercise one hundred and fifty minutes
Speaker 5: a week plus to eat it close to a vegetarian
Speaker 5: at if you're a vegetarian like or pescatarian like doctor
Speaker 5: Brian Stanford. I mean he he probably has very little
Speaker 5: soft plaque, you know, so there are things you can
Speaker 5: do but diet, exercise.
Speaker 1: When he's another one of he is built like a
Speaker 1: I mean a middle linebacker for the Steelers in the
Speaker 1: seventies at his age. But he had the same thing
Speaker 1: I did, or not close to it, but he had
Speaker 1: the same issues.
Speaker 5: He had a big caucifat plaque in his lad when
Speaker 5: he was thirty five years old. Wow, And that's when
Speaker 5: he became a vegetarian or pescatari.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you're listening to our voice right now,
Speaker 1: get it checked. This is for males and females. I
Speaker 1: know we're concentrated on the male side of this, but
Speaker 1: women's heart disease is just as bad, right.
Speaker 2: It's very bad. And there are symptoms sometimes maybe even
Speaker 2: confusing that we call them atypical symptoms. They may feel
Speaker 2: like dizzy, nauseous, not feeling good, fatigue, palpitation, and people
Speaker 2: think they're just anxious. You know, they may be having
Speaker 2: a heart condition. So they should be also checked.
Speaker 5: And we have a Women's Heart Center University Louville. Doctor
Speaker 5: Shetty is the person who's in charge of that, and
Speaker 5: she was on the show with Jaye. We need to
Speaker 5: have her back onto baby atypical symptoms that women sometimes have.
Speaker 1: You seriously aren't getting into the calcium scan together.
Speaker 4: Please a listen, listen. I told doctor Sada No. I
Speaker 4: told doctor Sadla say, look, I'm cheap. I don't want
Speaker 4: to do the ninety nine dollars. I'm gonna weigh on top.
Speaker 4: We'll see it and we'll just spl split it.
Speaker 3: We'll just play. But you know what we do practice,
Speaker 3: what we preach on here.
Speaker 4: I'm getting my calciums amen score done today, and so
Speaker 4: is doctor Sadlow.
Speaker 1: You should too. This saved all kinds of lives. What
Speaker 1: we're gonna take some calls around the top. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do this at eleven o'clock. If you guys can stick
Speaker 1: around to eleven fifteen, that would be great.
Speaker 2: Is that good?
Speaker 1: Okay? So we're going to take a short break if
Speaker 1: you want to stay on hold and ask them questions
Speaker 1: of the doc because a lot of people are asking
Speaker 1: these questions about what about me and how do I
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Speaker 1: eight forty w h A, Dave, what do you got
Speaker 1: for reeling?
Speaker 6: In the years, these were all top twenty hits back
Speaker 6: in the day. I point out that Dwight actually had it,
Speaker 6: and then you kind of talked about.
Speaker 3: Oh I did, I did?
Speaker 1: I apologize my bad? I guess is Tobmy Gibson n
Speaker 1: eighties eighty seven? It's eighty seven. She was doing the
Speaker 1: mall to it, she was doing the All tours. I
Speaker 1: had a little it was a little crush on.
Speaker 3: I asked my wife to shake my love.
Speaker 5: Who was the.
Speaker 1: Opposite of her, the redhead Tiffany Tiffany. See you were
Speaker 1: the Tiffany and I was I was this bloody redhead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you are why I'm not? I mean no,
Speaker 1: you're into yeah?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Eighty seven it's eighty seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might not even need another soay wow wow.
Speaker 3: Are yeah love?
Speaker 1: It's eighty seven.
Speaker 3: It's r e M.
Speaker 1: Man the one I don't know? Or is that later
Speaker 1: at eighty eight?
Speaker 3: This one goes out to the one I love?
Speaker 6: Maybe eighty nine No, no, no, then goes out whatever
Speaker 6: happened to R They just kind of faded away.
Speaker 1: Doc Sadlow is a huge Ria pull your mic up
Speaker 1: there already.
Speaker 3: And there's an r M cover band and he plays
Speaker 3: Michael Stipe.
Speaker 1: When he performs heart surgery, he listens to Arim.
Speaker 5: I was working sixteen our days at Grady Hospital in
Speaker 5: eighty seven seven A right, listen to my radio.
Speaker 6: All right, next song, Okay, the next song is swing Out, Sister, Breakout.
Speaker 3: You break out could be eighty eight.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's eighty seven. Still, I think it's
Speaker 1: eighty seven. I wasn't very familiar with this song.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not doing a whole lot of metal.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, he's trying to trick us.
Speaker 3: I'm a trickster. He's a sabotur.
Speaker 6: I'm a trickster.
Speaker 3: What can I say? I'm a tricks I'm a trickster.
Speaker 3: And you break.
Speaker 1: It's eighty six or eighty seven.
Speaker 3: Now for me, it's eighty seven or eighty eight for me.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, let's see if this happened. She got skinny
Speaker 6: after the Go Gos had a solo career. You know
Speaker 6: what is worth This is the solo version Blinda Carlile.
Speaker 6: Heaven is a place.
Speaker 1: She's all right, Blinda Carlisle. So this is the solo project.
Speaker 1: That means it's post So it's definitely eighty seven eighty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the bank are the Go Gos were eighty three.
Speaker 1: They were eighty three right right.
Speaker 3: Their album came about eighty two, well, the big album Vacation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Doc Sadlow used to listen to the Bengals or the
Speaker 1: Go Gos while performing hard surgery.
Speaker 3: Occasionally, I like, h do you want to.
Speaker 1: Listen to music while you're doing some surgeries? Do you
Speaker 1: listen to music?
Speaker 3: You ever goof on the know? No?
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm concentrating.
Speaker 4: Do you ever goof on the patients and make their
Speaker 4: mouths move like asking a question and take their lips and.
Speaker 1: Ye, that's against all.
Speaker 3: It's fun in the operating room, man, I.
Speaker 1: Was awake from mine. It's fun.
Speaker 6: Pet chop boys, no help. It'd be a sin to
Speaker 6: play with the patient's mouth during surgery. It's a sin.
Speaker 3: Is the song?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: I'm at eighty seven? This is totally nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 1: my senior year.
Speaker 3: Next song the number one song.
Speaker 6: Ironically, you mentioned her earlier November the thirteenth, Back in
Speaker 6: the day Tiffany was number one.
Speaker 1: Debbie Gibson was bringing up the rear.
Speaker 3: Let's go eighty eight.
Speaker 1: No, it's a it's eighty seven, all right, it's a
Speaker 1: later half. Yeah, it's a later half. Maybe seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is eighty seven. Okay, yeah, it's later half.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll go with you.
Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
Speaker 1: David, I'm gonna push, give me the ball, clear out
Speaker 1: the lane. It's nineteen nineteen eighty seven, bro.
Speaker 3: Final answer with eight we go, let me get my
Speaker 3: dinghy out.
Speaker 6: Remake of Tommy James I Think We're alone now was
Speaker 6: number one November of the thirteenth.
Speaker 3: Yes, nineteen seven, Yes, well gone.
Speaker 1: That was in a mixture at Eastern Kentucky and nobody
Speaker 1: cares making out with Cindy Lapper. No, Cindy Williams, all
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