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<v Speaker 1>No, my heart was not made of glass.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, yes, sir, and I asked thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was diagnosed about six weeks ago with caring too

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<v Speaker 1>much for other people, caring.

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<v Speaker 3>Too much about it my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Philly cheese steaks, and uh, but I needed it fixed

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<v Speaker 1>and I ignored a lot of signs. And who do

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<v Speaker 1>we have on the show all the time?

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Henry Sadlow. That's right, Hello, mister Sadlow, Good morning, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 5>Glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>We see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, and you were my Denny Crumb because you went

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<v Speaker 1>down the bench and you looked at doctor Silake and

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<v Speaker 1>you went get in the game when I described to

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<v Speaker 1>you what was going on with with my heart.

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<v Speaker 5>A highly experienced doctor Slunky has twenty five years of

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<v Speaker 5>experience and interventional cardiology, and he can do the tough cases.

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<v Speaker 5>He can anybody can do the easy cases.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Silwake.

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<v Speaker 4>Take us back to the day you have Tony's on

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<v Speaker 4>your table, you're doing the scope. You know he's got

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent blockages. His widow maker, what were you

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<v Speaker 4>thinking when you started to save his life.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking Tony's pretty lucky guy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I mean, what the hell were you thinking

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<v Speaker 3>saving his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor, because he's doing the Orlando trip and he's telling

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<v Speaker 2>me all these busy schedule he was doing. And this

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<v Speaker 2>guy having AE hundred percent mid LED, but he has

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<v Speaker 2>God on his side. He made coladals to that digital

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<v Speaker 2>part of LED, and that actually was helping me out.

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<v Speaker 2>But whenever he was exerting walking around, he was feeling

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<v Speaker 2>short of breath and chest pain and he was not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that great whenever. And he knew something going on

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<v Speaker 2>with him before the procedure, so he.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, and he said that to me. On the table,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a piece of plastic that was in front

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<v Speaker 1>of my face. Doctor Solanki came around, moved it and

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<v Speaker 1>got about two inches from my face and said, you

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<v Speaker 1>should not be able and the only reason you are

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<v Speaker 1>alive is because your heart did form those those those

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<v Speaker 1>side feeder branches feeder branches.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, collaterals or your own bypass correct right?

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<v Speaker 3>And why did I do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did I form those?

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting. Nobody really knows who makes collateral who don't.

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<v Speaker 2>There a genetic Uh, some people make good collaterals, some

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<v Speaker 2>people don't. So you are those lucky ones. You make

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<v Speaker 2>great coladals, and you kind of get protection for your

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack by these coletals.

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<v Speaker 3>Is an odd look at the guy. It's in great shape.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I good find the guy alive. But he

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<v Speaker 4>works out every day. Every morning, he's up, he's walking

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<v Speaker 4>to the Jewish community center. He does all the right things.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it shocking for somebody with his physique to get

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<v Speaker 4>this issue?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not that uncommon.

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<v Speaker 5>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sometimes we see uh this block is or heart

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<v Speaker 2>attacking people who are running even marathon.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, you know so this.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the people that do exercise have a better

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<v Speaker 5>chance of developing collateral flow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you said right, You're like if the last fifteen years, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the last fifteen years, if you didn't worked out every day,

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<v Speaker 1>that those things might have not formed, which ended up

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<v Speaker 1>saving my life. But it was it was your all

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<v Speaker 1>stick touitiveness. I'll steal a Jobe Hall line. But you

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<v Speaker 1>said again, I was on I was in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>My insurance company had said we don't have enough here,

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<v Speaker 1>but doctor Solanki, you said, we don't care, We're going ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you do that? Well? When I talked to

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<v Speaker 2>your story was very concerning, and when I saw your

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<v Speaker 2>ekzy that was very abnormal. So I got phone call

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<v Speaker 2>from my office saying insurance's denying it. I said, don't worry,

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<v Speaker 2>we will take care of it, and we have enough information.

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<v Speaker 2>We cannot a heart attack patients go away. If instances

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<v Speaker 2>some reason not approving it, we can always appeal it.

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<v Speaker 2>We can always write a letter. We can do so

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<v Speaker 2>many things. We got to do what we got to do,

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<v Speaker 2>take care to the patient.

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<v Speaker 1>I get a little most it's taking me back to

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<v Speaker 1>that time right now and it's still.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm sitting there and listen to him talk. His

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<v Speaker 1>commitment is saying, we don't care. We're gonna sit here.

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<v Speaker 3>Line.

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<v Speaker 5>So do you know when it started, though, Tony? Is

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<v Speaker 5>when I was in my car getting ready to walk

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<v Speaker 5>in the Student rec Center University litvel Gym. I was

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<v Speaker 5>off on a Friday. I get this call from Tony

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<v Speaker 5>Venetti and he says, Doc. He goes, I haven't really

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<v Speaker 5>been honest with you a calcium scan again, but but

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<v Speaker 5>now I'm having chest pain and we're doing activity and

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<v Speaker 5>band chest pain. I said, you need a hardcath. You

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<v Speaker 5>don't need a calcium scan.

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor sago, how come when I called you? I guess

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<v Speaker 4>every case is different, because when I called you with

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<v Speaker 4>the exact same synctrumes. You said, hey, you're probably fine,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you see a bright light, run towards it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, well I said, take.

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<v Speaker 4>No, absolutely, but in all seriousness, uh, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 4>what you look like on the exterior, you know. Doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Solanki was just talking about some people were running marathons.

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<v Speaker 4>The same issue a calcium score. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>we're getting our calcium score done today.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of you are getting it done today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, folks, have your primary care physician, contact University of

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville and get this calcium score done.

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<v Speaker 2>It puts you.

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<v Speaker 5>It won't tell you if you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 5>heart attack at all, but it does put you in

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<v Speaker 5>a low, medium, or high risk category right and even

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<v Speaker 5>all those categories. What it does it motivates you to

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<v Speaker 5>do the right things like to eat an American Heart

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<v Speaker 5>Association Healthy Heart debt, Mediterranean debt, to get that aerobic

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<v Speaker 5>exercise one hundred and fifty minutes a week. But most importantly,

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<v Speaker 5>and Tony won't do it again, is to don't ignore symptoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, there's no question. Now the procedure, Doctor Slonki, Now

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<v Speaker 1>your entire team is Jewish Heart and lung center is

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<v Speaker 1>where I was the whole team, from the top to

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<v Speaker 1>bottom like you. Here's what I described it to my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, everybody in this hospital stay he's in their

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<v Speaker 1>lane and does their job like everybody's an expert. They

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<v Speaker 1>stay in their lane. I'm here to do this. They

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<v Speaker 1>and then they would explain it to me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they would do it, and then the next person would

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<v Speaker 1>come in. I'm here to do this, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. They were. They were awesome from the

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<v Speaker 1>top to the bottom. Now you doctor SLACKI so you

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<v Speaker 1>you see the blockage. I've described it the surgery room

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<v Speaker 1>like a sports bar because the TV. The TV is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there and your heart is on there and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my, this is crazy. But you have to guide

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<v Speaker 1>to get this two stints into that artery?

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<v Speaker 2>You what is you?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have to do to make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>don't poke a hole in the whole artery?

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<v Speaker 5>Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, excellent question, because, uh, this proceeds, particularly when one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred person blocked, it needs a lot of experience.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have very good wires.

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<v Speaker 2>They can go through that blocked depends how the block looks,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have a low profile balloon, we can

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<v Speaker 2>inflate it, we give medications to help if there is

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<v Speaker 2>a blood clot, and then we size it. We call

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<v Speaker 2>it intravasculture sounds in your case, we did that so

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<v Speaker 2>we know exact size of the vessel. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>bring the exact size of the stent. And then after

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<v Speaker 2>deploy the stent, we inflate with one other balloon called

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<v Speaker 2>post dialutation, so the stent is fully expanded so it

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<v Speaker 2>does not make repeat blood clot or repeat heart attack,

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<v Speaker 2>and your stents stay open hopefully for your entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why two stints?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you are a long block is the area of

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<v Speaker 2>block is was very long, so you need two stints.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor blockage.

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor get me the perfect jumping off point, you said,

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<v Speaker 4>for the rest of your life, and go to doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Henry said, Loo, he's got a brand new widow maker,

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<v Speaker 4>compliments of doctor Schlocke.

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<v Speaker 3>So can you just eat Philly cheese steaks and cheeseburgers

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<v Speaker 3>now he's got.

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<v Speaker 5>So what happens is doctor Slunky took the balloon in

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<v Speaker 5>the stent and he remodeled the soft plaque, which is

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<v Speaker 5>like playdough, so that the artery is open. What Tony

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<v Speaker 5>does now will determine whether that cholesterol will build back

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<v Speaker 5>up inside the step. Okay, so that's you know, balls

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<v Speaker 5>in your court now yeah, I say, you're good.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, And Tony's doing cardiac rehab.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's been great Northeast, great staff there.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the fascinating thing. I've always said, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can do anything and walk away with one item

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life, that's it's a four

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<v Speaker 1>hour seminar. You walk away with one thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>use the rest of your life, that's a win for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've gone to two and this is what freaks

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<v Speaker 1>me out because I'm more of a late well you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lift weights than a cardio. So I go in. They

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<v Speaker 1>do my my blood pressure. He was at a number.

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<v Speaker 1>I get on the treadmill and the elliptical for forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes straight. I get off it. My blood pressure

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty points lower.

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<v Speaker 3>Not higher.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said it's the and the lady looked at me, going, hey, doum,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I do. This is why cardio is

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<v Speaker 1>better for your heart than lifting. It's not lifting's not

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<v Speaker 1>bad for your heart, but the cardio is really what's

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<v Speaker 1>healthy for your heart.

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<v Speaker 5>The best medicine that I can prescribe is not a medicine.

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<v Speaker 5>It's an aerobic exercise prescription.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, that's what I'm right.

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<v Speaker 1>It does Manami do that for you in your workouts.

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<v Speaker 4>Manami Jones has me on the rolling machines, he has

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<v Speaker 4>me boxing. But here's the thing, Uh, Doctor Silwake and

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Sadloe says he's had this. I've always thought about

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<v Speaker 4>my heart as a ticking time bomb. Now he goes

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<v Speaker 4>through this the way he looks like, and he exercised

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<v Speaker 4>all the time. Now I'm scared to death. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 4>when's mind. That's why I'm getting my calcium scored done

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<v Speaker 4>today to find out what category am in. Have I

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<v Speaker 4>regressed in the past three or four years since my

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<v Speaker 4>last scan Because you can't go back. You can't undo

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<v Speaker 4>the plaque, can you?

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<v Speaker 3>Or can you?

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<v Speaker 5>So a couple of things. There are two types fax

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<v Speaker 5>flam no, okay, there's two types of plaque. The CALCIFAD

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<v Speaker 5>hard plaque that we can see with a ninety nine

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<v Speaker 5>dollars test that puts us in a low, medium or

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<v Speaker 5>high risk category. We're going to try to work on that.

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<v Speaker 5>But the soft plaque that we don't see there are

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<v Speaker 5>other ways to determine that a hardcath is a gold standard.

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<v Speaker 5>Slanki for a elective hardcas. Yours was a mergent what.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done this twenty something years? Have you seen more

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's getting worsed, Tony. Have we seen two things now?

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<v Speaker 3>So doctor Samlo, you're looking at a couple of go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>So the soft plaque you can remove that if you're

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<v Speaker 5>But so the soft plaque you can remove. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>a week plus to eat it close to a vegetarian

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<v Speaker 5>at if you're a vegetarian like or pescatarian like doctor

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<v Speaker 5>He had a big caucifat plaque in his lad when

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<v Speaker 5>he was thirty five years old. Wow, And that's when

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So if you're listening to our voice right now,

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<v Speaker 1>get it checked. This is for males and females. I

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<v Speaker 1>women's heart disease is just as bad, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very bad. And there are symptoms sometimes maybe even

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<v Speaker 5>And we have a Women's Heart Center University Louville. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>You seriously aren't getting into the calcium scan together.

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<v Speaker 4>Please a listen, listen. I told doctor Sada No. I

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<v Speaker 4>told doctor Sadla say, look, I'm cheap. I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see it and we'll just spl split it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll just play. But you know what we do practice,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting my calciums amen score done today, and so

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<v Speaker 1>You should too. This saved all kinds of lives. What

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take some calls around the top. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do this at eleven o'clock. If you guys can stick

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So we're going to take a short break if

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<v Speaker 1>get these tests right? Do we have all Guy or air?

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<v Speaker 1>Call two four four nine ninety nine. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>phone number of Louisville Air dot Calm seventy eight bucks

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<v Speaker 1>gets the entire system cleaned out. Just like clean out

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<v Speaker 1>eight forty w h A, Dave, what do you got

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<v Speaker 6>In the years, these were all top twenty hits back

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<v Speaker 6>in the day. I point out that Dwight actually had it,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you kind of talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I did, I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize my bad? I guess is Tobmy Gibson n

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<v Speaker 1>eighties eighty seven? It's eighty seven. She was doing the

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<v Speaker 3>I asked my wife to shake my love.

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<v Speaker 5>Who was the.

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<v Speaker 1>Opposite of her, the redhead Tiffany Tiffany. See you were

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<v Speaker 1>the Tiffany and I was I was this bloody redhead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you are why I'm not? I mean no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're into yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty seven it's eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I might not even need another soay wow wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Are yeah love?

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<v Speaker 1>It's eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>It's r e M.

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<v Speaker 1>Man the one I don't know? Or is that later

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<v Speaker 1>at eighty eight?

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<v Speaker 3>This one goes out to the one I love?

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe eighty nine No, no, no, then goes out whatever

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<v Speaker 6>happened to R They just kind of faded away.

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Sadlow is a huge Ria pull your mic up

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<v Speaker 1>there already.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's an r M cover band and he plays

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Stipe.

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<v Speaker 1>When he performs heart surgery, he listens to Arim.

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<v Speaker 5>I was working sixteen our days at Grady Hospital in

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<v Speaker 5>eighty seven seven A right, listen to my radio.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, next song, Okay, the next song is swing Out, Sister, Breakout.

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<v Speaker 3>You break out could be eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's eighty seven. Still, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven. I wasn't very familiar with this song.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's not doing a whole lot of metal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, he's trying to trick us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a trickster. He's a sabotur.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a trickster.

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<v Speaker 3>What can I say? I'm a tricks I'm a trickster.

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<v Speaker 3>And you break.

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<v Speaker 1>It's eighty six or eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Now for me, it's eighty seven or eighty eight for me.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Yeah, let's see if this happened. She got skinny

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<v Speaker 6>after the Go Gos had a solo career. You know

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<v Speaker 6>what is worth This is the solo version Blinda Carlile.

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<v Speaker 6>Heaven is a place.

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<v Speaker 1>She's all right, Blinda Carlisle. So this is the solo project.

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<v Speaker 1>That means it's post So it's definitely eighty seven eighty eight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because the bank are the Go Gos were eighty three.

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<v Speaker 1>They were eighty three right right.

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<v Speaker 3>Their album came about eighty two, well, the big album Vacation. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Sadlow used to listen to the Bengals or the

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<v Speaker 1>Go Gos while performing hard surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>Occasionally, I like, h do you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to music while you're doing some surgeries? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to music?

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<v Speaker 3>You ever goof on the know? No?

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, I'm concentrating.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you ever goof on the patients and make their

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<v Speaker 4>mouths move like asking a question and take their lips and.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, that's against all.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fun in the operating room, man, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was awake from mine. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Pet chop boys, no help. It'd be a sin to

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<v Speaker 6>play with the patient's mouth during surgery. It's a sin.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the song?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at eighty seven? This is totally nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>my senior year.

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<v Speaker 3>Next song the number one song.

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<v Speaker 6>Ironically, you mentioned her earlier November the thirteenth, Back in

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<v Speaker 6>the day Tiffany was number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie Gibson was bringing up the rear.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's a it's eighty seven, all right, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>later half. Yeah, it's a later half. Maybe seven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is eighty seven. Okay, yeah, it's later half.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we'll go with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>David, I'm gonna push, give me the ball, clear out

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<v Speaker 1>the lane. It's nineteen nineteen eighty seven, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Final answer with eight we go, let me get my

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<v Speaker 3>dinghy out.

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<v Speaker 6>Remake of Tommy James I Think We're alone now was

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<v Speaker 6>number one November of the thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, nineteen seven, Yes, well gone.

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<v Speaker 1>That was in a mixture at Eastern Kentucky and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>cares making out with Cindy Lapper. No, Cindy Williams, all

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<v Speaker 1>right back after this.

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<v Speaker 7>But Bernal's Pizza Baralds pizzas Louisville style pizza, and the

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<v Speaker 7>pizza the constantly gets back to Louisville, Southern Indiana and

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<v Speaker 7>the surrounding area is put some pride in your pizza,

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<v Speaker 7>dine in, carry out or delivery Baronal's pizza. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 7>that good stick around, gonna be talking, can heart hell

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<v Speaker 7>in just a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Just ready to wait. Forty whis