Speaker 1: He listen. Committic Who Go Podcast episode four sixty four
Speaker 1: on Brand told me he were thrilling to they We're
Speaker 1: gonna rock the Foundation now our theme sal so good.
Speaker 1: I love that movie, Newton Mayhem. Yeah's an amazing movie.
Speaker 2: So good.
Speaker 1: It probably the best Inja Turtles movies and Secret of
Speaker 1: the Ouze, which is only good because it was bad. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Hey Ryan, We're back for yet another whirlwind adventure. How
Speaker 1: you doing good?
Speaker 2: What is going down?
Speaker 1: The whole ton is going down. We got a very
Speaker 1: exciting new set to talk about. We got some stories
Speaker 1: to tell, some people to thank, a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: really cool stuff we're gonna get into. But before we
Speaker 1: get to any of that stuff, we have to thank
Speaker 1: our official business Daddy's Fusion Gaming Online dot Com, your
Speaker 1: source for all your gaming needs. And we also have
Speaker 1: to thank Pile of Bones. It's the second coolest thing
Speaker 1: to come out of Regina and they are the official
Speaker 1: beer sponsor for c CEO Walk Slam Season two. Right
Speaker 1: here on YouTube.
Speaker 2: That's it. You'd see Uncle Browndo yell if you're watching
Speaker 2: on YouTube, which should be because editor Joe works very,
Speaker 2: very hard and we do appreciate him just as much
Speaker 2: as we appreciate the business daddies over at Fusion Gaming
Speaker 2: CEO Summer promo code still in effect. They have not
Speaker 2: made me change it, and we're gonna ride summer as
Speaker 2: long as we can do.
Speaker 1: Not google that. Oh yeah, I guess not. Hey, no
Speaker 1: around here.
Speaker 2: Yeah we know a girl this summer around her Yeah okay,
Speaker 2: good thing she doesn't watch the show. I don't think
Speaker 2: she might. Yeah. Anyways, CEO Summer are gonna get a
Speaker 2: discount on literally everything you buy at at Fusion and
Speaker 2: doing so a saves you money, which everybody likes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because everything's so god dang expensive, right now, heard that?
Speaker 2: And it lets the business daddies over at Fusion know
Speaker 2: that their partnership with c CEO with the goons from
Speaker 2: Saskatoon is a good one, which it is, yeah, very much,
Speaker 2: just as good as And I brought some today Quark
Speaker 2: beer from Pile of Bones. It's literally Canada's best beer.
Speaker 1: They just won an award for it for best Beer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like how often does that happen? So if you're in
Speaker 1: somewhere where you can get this stuff, get some of
Speaker 1: it drinking. It actually is really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so would you say that? And I
Speaker 2: know what you'll say, but is all beer good?
Speaker 1: Well, because it's all beer, that's a complex question because
Speaker 1: in a way yes, but also in a way no, very.
Speaker 2: No, yes, well, quark beer very good. And I've got
Speaker 2: I've got a couple of little updates that that I've
Speaker 2: been working on behind the scenes that I haven't told
Speaker 2: Brando about. So it's gonna be a Cocio exclusive. But
Speaker 2: we got to thank producer Gary in the tooth booth,
Speaker 2: he's over there. We relegate him to the dark booth
Speaker 2: where he has to sit and think about what he's done.
Speaker 2: Do you think at least an.
Speaker 1: Hour, do you think he would ever put a banana
Speaker 1: peel on the sets that you'd break other leg so
Speaker 1: that he could be on the show again?
Speaker 2: Maybe? Hi? You know what? In uh in grade twelve,
Speaker 2: my buddies and I in in the because I went
Speaker 2: to a very big high school. Yeah, and the locker
Speaker 2: rooms and the gym's like in my school there's like
Speaker 2: four gyms, right, and a pool and everything is huge.
Speaker 2: And we on the hallway that goes into the locker room,
Speaker 2: me and my friends all down the different rolls were
Speaker 2: all like we were in the senior team row for
Speaker 2: like the track of football team and stuff, and just
Speaker 2: outside of there, we put a banana peel on the floor,
Speaker 2: real cartoon styleI.
Speaker 1: We just waited.
Speaker 2: Every day my buddy Kyle would eat a banana and
Speaker 2: he'd put his banana on the floor and the teacher
Speaker 2: would come in. Oh banana, nada. One day we got
Speaker 2: a guy all on the fricking banana. Oh so good,
Speaker 2: went right over like just like a whoop. Sorry, these
Speaker 2: guys slipped on a banana so good. Yeah. Anyways, uh yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe he would. I don't know. But anyway, I said,
Speaker 2: I had some updates, okay, and these are updates for
Speaker 2: you that I hope that you like and appreciate because
Speaker 2: I'm working hard for Uncle Brenda.
Speaker 1: What if I don't. Well, they involve beer, okay.
Speaker 2: I like your accessories.
Speaker 1: I like those two.
Speaker 2: And the CEO Experienced Calgary.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite things. Is that next weekend.
Speaker 2: That's it's getting close. Yeah, there's two weekends or now
Speaker 2: November fifteen, sixteen seventeen is the CEO Experience Calgary. That
Speaker 2: is the Canadian Western Tour Championship weekend for all of
Speaker 2: the tryhards and the sweaty neck beards that want to
Speaker 2: try and qualify for the pro Tour. But us, we're
Speaker 2: sweaty butt crack commander players. We are gonna go and
Speaker 2: we're gonna be there too. Yeah, we're gonna be sweating
Speaker 2: along with the best of them, except we are the
Speaker 2: worst of them. Yes, and everybody's booked. Airbnb is booked.
Speaker 1: Tell you, I.
Speaker 2: Have compliments of our friends at Pile of Bones little
Speaker 2: care packs for everybody in in the CEO experience House.
Speaker 1: I hope the care package is just a minikeg.
Speaker 2: The care package does involve beer, maybe some Quark beer
Speaker 2: a minikeg in the actual keg. It involves merch, compliments
Speaker 2: of our friends at Pile of Bones. Okay, and I
Speaker 2: have been working on some new merch for the CEO booth,
Speaker 2: of which I assumed you wanted some. So I did
Speaker 2: take the liberty and order some in your size. Excellent,
Speaker 2: And I don't have a I don't have a graphic
Speaker 2: in my hand to show you. Oh well, but I
Speaker 2: did also order beer cooosies, yes, so we can keep
Speaker 2: our beer cold or warm, depending on how cold or
Speaker 2: warm it is outside. Because we are going to Calgary
Speaker 2: in November and we could see a blizzard, snowstorm, hundred
Speaker 2: k winds coming off the mountains, or.
Speaker 1: We could see literally the opposite, and it could have
Speaker 1: we could have flowers blooming on the side of the
Speaker 1: road in Calgary is.
Speaker 2: An insane place, in which case we will need to
Speaker 2: keep our beer cool.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so much, new t shirts, beer coozies, gift packs,
Speaker 2: compliments of pile of bones, all for the CEO experience Calgary.
Speaker 2: And if you're not part of the experience, of course,
Speaker 2: stop by the booth. We're gonna have some little mini
Speaker 2: games there for prizes. I'm ringing the necks of face
Speaker 2: to face games, for some booster packs and extra prize
Speaker 2: tickets and promos as we always have lots of come
Speaker 2: and see us, and some of the games will be
Speaker 2: for prizes. Some of the games will be here like
Speaker 2: different prizes will be like discounts for picking up some
Speaker 2: CECO merch. Gonna be lots of fun stuff, can.
Speaker 1: I tell you Stortin, Yes, he was thinking of I
Speaker 1: was gonna tell it on the pre show, but then
Speaker 1: I forgot because we were talking about really important stuff.
Speaker 1: What kind of important stuff. You'll have to check out
Speaker 1: the pre show.
Speaker 2: Or yesterday's pre show.
Speaker 1: So I bumped into a guy, sure, Conrad, you remember
Speaker 1: Conrad con Sad. Yes, he was telling me about him
Speaker 1: and Jesse Spears, another local try hard. Yes, he went
Speaker 1: down to a legacy tournament down in America and they
Speaker 1: played in this legacy tournament, number one prize and like
Speaker 1: recently within the last like this summer goes down and
Speaker 1: the prize was like some money because of course it's
Speaker 1: America and you can win money and a sealed revised pack.
Speaker 1: Oo ooh nice, right, Like, yeah, I want that. That's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. That's like a couple hundred dollars booster pack. Right.
Speaker 1: So they plays and they plays, and Conrad makes it
Speaker 1: to the final match. He's in the finals.
Speaker 2: He was con glad.
Speaker 1: He was con glad baby, and he they're gonna play
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, man, do you want the pack?
Speaker 1: And he's like, whoa, you know, I kind of just
Speaker 1: want the money, what about you? And he's like why
Speaker 1: I kind of want the money too.
Speaker 2: They're talking about a split maybe.
Speaker 1: And there was another guy elsewhere in the tournament that
Speaker 1: wanted to pack, and you know why he wanted the pack? Ryan, No,
Speaker 1: do you know why he wanted the pack. So you
Speaker 1: see a nation, think of your answer in your head.
Speaker 2: Open flipp you do drinking.
Speaker 1: He wanted to open it, rip it and flip it.
Speaker 1: He wanted to open that revised pack. So what they
Speaker 1: did was they split the prize money. Who wanted the
Speaker 1: pack just bought it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Jesse and or cong Glad and the
Speaker 2: other guy got more money.
Speaker 1: They put there the money and then the guy opened
Speaker 1: the pack with everybody in the tournament, just so everybody
Speaker 1: got to sit. You know what he opened in that
Speaker 1: in that background.
Speaker 2: You know what he got? Rock egg?
Speaker 1: What he got? What magic carpet.
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like underground scene, No, no, just making
Speaker 2: sure there wasn't a tropical island in there. No no tigers,
Speaker 2: no tundras, nope.
Speaker 1: We a fortune note absolutely not. Just a magic carpet.
Speaker 1: Magic carpet for those of us that aren't looking it
Speaker 1: up on the internet, worth forty cents. And the guy
Speaker 1: paid two hundred and forty United States Freedom units for
Speaker 1: that pack and then just felt sad. And you know what.
Speaker 1: You know what Conrad said after he looked at me,
Speaker 1: after he told me that story, he was like and
Speaker 1: then he understood what it was like to be you
Speaker 1: opening a booster pack brand.
Speaker 2: I believe the the buzzword, the industry word for that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very excellent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but good on that guy.
Speaker 2: Man, he's sticking to his guns.
Speaker 1: Hey, he gambled and he lost.
Speaker 2: That is the thing.
Speaker 1: But it's a cool story that's on the internet forever now.
Speaker 2: There it is. Yeah, And if you don't want to gamble,
Speaker 2: and this is the last thing I'll say about it.
Speaker 2: If you don't want to gamble, the CEO Experience, the
Speaker 2: CECO booth that's gonna be there.
Speaker 1: Never gamble with your entertainment. We always deliver the merch booth.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have some special deals because I want to
Speaker 2: clear out some inventory space, you know how like I
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like I got too much stuff in my house. Yes,
Speaker 2: we go to clear some inventory space. So we're gonna
Speaker 2: have deals in Calgary and then deals on the CEO
Speaker 2: store website so I can make room for some twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five merch. We've been teasing it amongst ourselves for
Speaker 2: a long time. Yeah, we're thinking about Kickstarter play mat
Speaker 2: play Matt Kickstarter number two. Yep, we're a soap and
Speaker 2: is c CEO sock bar of soap and a CEO
Speaker 2: sock Yes new dice to go along with the play mat,
Speaker 2: like color match dice. We're thinking about some of that
Speaker 2: merch because everybody keeps asking us for that stuff. And
Speaker 2: Kickstarter was so much fun and successful for us last time,
Speaker 2: and so twenty twenty five project.
Speaker 1: My favorite part of that, and this is gonna sound
Speaker 1: really weird, My favorite part of the Kickstarter that we
Speaker 1: did last time was the when we announced it or
Speaker 1: whatever on launch day when we sat at my kitchen
Speaker 1: table and we had to drop in like zoom session.
Speaker 1: That was super fun. And then the next thing when
Speaker 1: we when we had all the shirts and stuff already
Speaker 1: and we came and sat on the floor in your basement.
Speaker 2: Just surrounded all the play mats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: Of play mats because like one play MAT's not heavy, no,
Speaker 2: but when you get like hundreds of them, it's like
Speaker 2: freaking packed boxes. It's like a box filled with bricks.
Speaker 1: And is very heavy, with lots of it. I had
Speaker 1: no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, foundations right after the final piece of business here.
Speaker 2: We mentioned it last week. I want to mention it
Speaker 2: again just so there's no surprises. The Patreon restructuring thing
Speaker 2: is coming on like November eleventh or thirteenth or something.
Speaker 2: They're switching over to their annual billing model. So if
Speaker 2: you've ever been wanting or worried or had questions about Patreon,
Speaker 2: they completely clear all of that up switching it to
Speaker 2: a monthly thing. You just select how much you want
Speaker 2: to pledge, and boom, you're done.
Speaker 1: It's easy.
Speaker 2: So if you want to pledge, if you want to support,
Speaker 2: if you like the content, if you want to get
Speaker 2: your CEO nickname benefit, if you want to get your
Speaker 2: invite to the discord, actual benefit the experience. There's going
Speaker 2: to be two three four CCO experiences next year that
Speaker 2: you can get into when you're a Patreon supporter.
Speaker 1: Hard next year? Can we say that now, like, where
Speaker 1: are we are doing it?
Speaker 2: I want to go hard. I want to go hard,
Speaker 2: but I will be honest, like I say to Gary,
Speaker 2: will jerk the curtain open a little bit. The patronage
Speaker 2: has been suffering. The merch sales have been a little
Speaker 2: bit slow, and that a little bit is how we
Speaker 2: subsidize the trips. Right. We offer the experience for so
Speaker 2: cheap because we've got a little bit of a travel
Speaker 2: reserve built up, and with things being expensive for everybody
Speaker 2: and patrons dropping, the budget will be tight. But if
Speaker 2: you do want to see all of those things, and
Speaker 2: if you want all of the content to continue the
Speaker 2: way that it has, Patreon and the CCO store best
Speaker 2: two ways to support.
Speaker 1: Little support goes a long way, very.
Speaker 2: Much so, right and coffee dot com. Is there YouTube membership.
Speaker 2: YouTube offers like a like a membership thing like Patreon
Speaker 2: as well, if that's what you want to do, Like,
Speaker 2: there's lots of options. You just look in the show notes.
Speaker 1: It's weird Foundations Foundation, No Magic now ten thousand feet up.
Speaker 1: This is our Yes, this is the return of the
Speaker 1: core set in a new, revamped kind of way. Because
Speaker 1: this isn't a rotational core set where like the sets
Speaker 1: around it and they will rotate out and then replaced
Speaker 1: with a new one. This one will be standard legal
Speaker 1: for five years. I thought it was three five, five,
Speaker 1: five years.
Speaker 2: That's still like a lifetime.
Speaker 1: That's a There are people who will begin playing Magic,
Speaker 1: invest all their spare money and time into it, play
Speaker 1: the game for quite a while, think they're gonna make
Speaker 1: it big on the pro tour. Not do that and
Speaker 1: quit magic, sell their whole collection. These cards will still
Speaker 1: be legal in standard.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, so that's depressing.
Speaker 1: No, that's great, that's good. But you said you can
Speaker 1: get it and have a whole life span of a
Speaker 1: hobby that you had a great deal of joy on
Speaker 1: us yea, and move on to something else, and you
Speaker 1: can actually still get some I'm not gonna say value,
Speaker 1: but some value out of the stuff that you've invested in,
Speaker 1: unlike before with previous standard sets, where you're gonna buy in, Yeah,
Speaker 1: spend three hundred bucks on your deck and then when
Speaker 1: it rotates, it's out. You're fucked.
Speaker 2: What he said, Now before we talk about cards and
Speaker 2: and and people think they're going to get a review
Speaker 2: that's not this show. That's going to be next week
Speaker 2: and next week looking at legends and special guest artists
Speaker 2: and good cards because they are printing good cards into
Speaker 2: the set like they like they were with core sets
Speaker 2: of old. But we both had some thoughts on what
Speaker 2: this set is means, what it represents for experienced and
Speaker 2: new players. I wanted to hear a little bit about
Speaker 2: the products and what you think of how it's all structured,
Speaker 2: because you had some like more in depth thoughts than
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, okay, Well, let's let's talk some of the
Speaker 1: pin into it. How you can go out if you
Speaker 1: want to excitement this set into your life.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: Incitement means spend money so you can get the standard stuff.
Speaker 1: You got your set boosters, you got your collection boosters, yep,
Speaker 1: and you've got your in this one, actual jumpstart boosters.
Speaker 1: So these are the good jump starts that everybody likes,
Speaker 1: not the theme ones that kind of suck good good.
Speaker 2: These are like classic jumpies.
Speaker 1: Yes, and there's lots of really great stuff. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about some of it either today and more of it
Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. We're gonna talk about the short
Speaker 1: cards that you can get. Then you've got instead of
Speaker 1: your starter deck, you have your starter deck building thing,
Speaker 1: which is a set bunch of cards that will build
Speaker 1: into two decks that you can then play with with
Speaker 1: all the instructions on how to take the loose cards
Speaker 1: that they've given you to build decks to taste that
Speaker 1: you can then play against one another. And I believe
Speaker 1: that's the one that comes with the ever popular clickie
Speaker 1: life wheels. People love those and they're hard to find.
Speaker 1: So here's a product that comes with once you can
Speaker 1: actually go out and get one, and in some cases
Speaker 1: that life wheel is probably gonna cost the same amount
Speaker 1: as this this starter thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then the other new one that they're coming out with
Speaker 1: is an instant.
Speaker 2: Collection, yes, which this is something that secondary retailers have
Speaker 2: done now for a while, right, Yeah, where it's like
Speaker 2: fifty bucks and you get fifty random rarers and three
Speaker 2: hundred uncommons and twenty of each basic land in a
Speaker 2: big white box. Right. This is not that, No, but
Speaker 2: it's it's a It is that, but it's not. It's
Speaker 2: from again ten thousand feet. This is something that Watsy
Speaker 2: has queued onto where it's like, hey, retailers are already
Speaker 2: doing this kind of just based on the extra stuff
Speaker 2: that they have. Let's make it a dedicated product. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: And I think that that represents an excellent way right
Speaker 2: from the factory for new players, for moms and grandmas
Speaker 2: and grandpas and fathers who don't know anything about magic
Speaker 2: and they want to buy something for their thirteen year
Speaker 2: old kid who wants to play magic with his friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually like this product. I do tell us about it.
Speaker 1: That I think it's a great it's you're going to
Speaker 1: get it. It's hundreds of cards. I don't remember the
Speaker 1: exact number off the top of my head. I see
Speaker 1: if I can find it. It might be three hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy five or something. And there is a list,
Speaker 1: so you are going to get what's on the back
Speaker 1: of the box. And it's got staples from Standard, from Foundations,
Speaker 1: It's got some Commander cards, sol ring, our Kids Segment,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and then it'll come with
Speaker 1: the rules, insert and all that stuff that you need
Speaker 1: to just start building either EDH or Standard or whatever
Speaker 1: kind of deck that you want. Although it is admittedly
Speaker 1: aimed at Commander and Standard, and while some people have
Speaker 1: been saying, well, why are you putting a sol ring
Speaker 1: in there?
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the Beginner Box.
Speaker 1: Nope, that's that's a whole different thing. The Beginner Box
Speaker 1: was the previous thing where it sends you the stuff
Speaker 1: and teaches how to build start collection, and then the
Speaker 1: starter The starter collection is the one that comes with
Speaker 1: the clickie down wheel. Okay, one hundred and fifty plus cards,
Speaker 1: twenty six traditional foil cards, three play boosters, ninety basic lands,
Speaker 1: ten of which are the really cool arts that we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about next week. Oh man, how to build
Speaker 1: a deck book that two reference cards, fourteen tokens, so
Speaker 1: probably tokens for all the cards that you're gonna get,
Speaker 1: and then the clicker wheel. Yeah, that is a cool idea.
Speaker 1: And I'm really really excited to see some people get
Speaker 1: their hands on those, specifically new players, to see if
Speaker 1: they're as good as I think they are. And I
Speaker 1: think that's a good idea, and I'm excited to see
Speaker 1: what a curated version of that looks like.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for that one, dude, I'm excited for the
Speaker 2: beginner box. Does it come with this little like is
Speaker 2: this like a playmat? Oh? No, the I bet you the,
Speaker 2: I bet you the the slip unfolds into like a
Speaker 2: little playmat. There's you know how uh for for people
Speaker 2: that are just listening and haven't seen it almost is
Speaker 2: like a sleeve that goes over the uh the bundle boxes.
Speaker 1: If it used to buy the old school bundles and
Speaker 1: they came with a book, they had like the thing
Speaker 1: that was slid out unfold into a poster. Yes, it
Speaker 1: unfolds into like.
Speaker 2: Into a playmat. Dude, I want to use this. I
Speaker 2: want to use this playmat and pretend we're moves at
Speaker 2: a pre released again, remember how fun that was?
Speaker 1: That was pretty fun? Actually, yeah that was pretty good.
Speaker 2: That was so fun. But it comes with Jumpstart boosters,
Speaker 2: and I bet you this product will be relatively cheap,
Speaker 2: and this will be the one that like when when
Speaker 2: we do the the interaction with like you know, you
Speaker 2: know what, the face to face events, when when they
Speaker 2: come over and say, hey, we've got like this games
Speaker 2: club from a school coming in. We want to have
Speaker 2: like a three round tournament or whatever. This is gonna
Speaker 2: be the product that they get. I would love to
Speaker 2: sit down and just pound some freakin' nubes at Jumpstart.
Speaker 1: Man, I always lose a jumpstart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I've ever lost a jumpstart.
Speaker 1: He didn't win in Vegas when we had the little tournament.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I did lose one. I did lose one
Speaker 2: round there made.
Speaker 1: It almost to the final, Yeah, the important one.
Speaker 2: And then you know it was a who was it?
Speaker 2: It was freaking' uh logan, Logan asked Hurts McGee and
Speaker 2: who who is he playing? In the Uh?
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter because Logan was Team Brando and he took
Speaker 1: the whole thing down.
Speaker 2: He did, and then you signed his butt cheeks I did. Gross. Okay,
Speaker 2: So then we got yeah, the regular boosters, We've got
Speaker 2: the regular bondles.
Speaker 1: All the other stuff that you expect is also to be.
Speaker 2: Found here pre release kid yep, yeah, as you would.
Speaker 1: Expect them to be. And again, remember this site, the
Speaker 1: set is legal for five years, so the odds are
Speaker 1: all this stuff is just going to be around, which
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. Yeah, you're not gonna see it, I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you're not gonna see at your local game
Speaker 1: store or at Fusion or whatever your site of choices,
Speaker 1: which should be Fusion on the internet, but your local
Speaker 1: game store in your city. You're not going to see
Speaker 1: an empty space where foundations should be.
Speaker 2: I hope. So now, the only couple things that I
Speaker 2: have questions about with regards to specifically that is usually
Speaker 2: collector boosters, like collector booster packs, have one print run
Speaker 2: and then they're done. I don't know if that's the case.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard on any Magic News outlets. The jump
Speaker 2: starts and the bundles, and the booster boxes, the play boosters,
Speaker 2: those will all be available, but the collector boosters.
Speaker 1: They might be a little bit trickier, and for.
Speaker 2: That reason, foils and showcase treatments that are only available
Speaker 2: in collector boosters might be expensive. And the other thing,
Speaker 2: if we're talking about hashtag MTG finance and Magic Foundations,
Speaker 2: it's going to be around for five years and they've
Speaker 2: reintroduced with this product MSRP Manufacturer suggested retail price, and
Speaker 2: I like that because it sort of controls prices online,
Speaker 2: so people are like, oh, there's chase rares in this
Speaker 2: one product, I'm not gonna sell it for more, But
Speaker 2: it also insulates local game stores against I have these,
Speaker 2: It's year four, nobody's buying it anymore. I'm going to
Speaker 2: clear this out at like eighty percent off. Yeah it.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like Walmart's gonna do that anyway,
Speaker 2: you can still.
Speaker 1: Do that as n lgs, you can do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't don't have to.
Speaker 2: But because because big box retailers, because online retailers, because
Speaker 2: small stores, because chase rares like new printings, because of
Speaker 2: the single print run of the collector packs. Like does
Speaker 2: MSRP even mean anything? And are people really unnecessarily kind
Speaker 2: of freaking out about it? Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, because I think there always kind of was
Speaker 1: an MSRP, just we didn't know what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Really, if there's no MSRP, how come every single
Speaker 2: online retailer charges the same amount for stuff exactly.
Speaker 1: Right, Like it's kind of it's one of those things.
Speaker 1: But here's what I was thinking about, this single run
Speaker 1: Collector Boosters. Yeah, I figure maybe that's each we'll call
Speaker 1: it year. Every year around this time when you want
Speaker 1: to refresh the core set. Maybe that's how they'll do it.
Speaker 1: Is they'll add different printings or different showcases and something.
Speaker 2: They'll do it different.
Speaker 1: Now, the run of the Collector Boosters, that could be neat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I can see that happening.
Speaker 2: You could almost have it like and I know Magic
Speaker 2: has never done this, maybe they never will, but think
Speaker 2: of like first edition Pokemon cards. Yeah, and then the
Speaker 2: second print run doesn't have the first edition stamp on
Speaker 2: it anymore, and those are the rare ones. Maybe you
Speaker 2: incentivize players to get the first edition ones. Maybe there's
Speaker 2: a second edition printing. Like, collectors aren't gonna like that,
Speaker 2: Retailers aren't gonna like that because you got to categorize
Speaker 2: cards differently, as if there isn't enough categories of cards already.
Speaker 2: But like other Magic invented the wheel, and then other
Speaker 2: retailers did what Magic did, and now Magic is going
Speaker 2: back to and doing what those guys did, like serialized
Speaker 2: sports cards and jersey swatches from game warn jerseys, and
Speaker 2: right like Magic's doing all of those things that that
Speaker 2: hockey cards did. Maybe they're going to borrow from Pokemon
Speaker 2: and say, hey, this is gonna be the first edition
Speaker 2: printing of Foundations, and then everything after this print runt
Speaker 2: will be maybe less money, maybe it'll be cheaper.
Speaker 1: What if you're two, three, four five it's whiteboarder, Oh
Speaker 1: that would be terrible.
Speaker 2: Hey no, no, all the whiteboarder guys are like, that's
Speaker 2: white out.
Speaker 1: Let me let me say the thing that I'm the
Speaker 1: most excited about this set because it's the first time
Speaker 1: I think a Magic set has ever attempted to do
Speaker 1: what Foundations is doing.
Speaker 2: And it's not that it's laying the foundations for this.
Speaker 1: Shut up, you get out Gary, back out here. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what's doing. It is setting the floor for a
Speaker 1: format the Foundation found well, it's the power floor for
Speaker 1: a format standard will always be at least.
Speaker 2: I understand the proverbial floor. It's like the meta floor.
Speaker 1: It's the proverbial floor of how bad any card is
Speaker 1: gonna be. And I think it's also a mild attempt
Speaker 1: to say this is approximately how good we're trying to
Speaker 1: make other standard sets going forward.
Speaker 2: It's it is the metric by which other things are judged. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it sets the baseline.
Speaker 1: And because it's going to be around for so long,
Speaker 1: you might have like more common and I'm gonna say investing,
Speaker 1: but like in investing in a card or speculating on
Speaker 1: how good this is gonna be in standard coming going forward? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know for a fact that burst lightning exists, Yes,
Speaker 1: so you never have to settle for shittier than burst lightning.
Speaker 2: Burst lightning is sorcery red three damage each opponent.
Speaker 1: Right, No, it's an instant oh red, Oh I want
Speaker 1: to damage and it's got.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the new lightning both though, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: that's what I thought you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yes, No, burst lightning is like red to red red
Speaker 1: two damage to something at instant speed, and it's a
Speaker 1: kicker for five and it does four. Yes, right, I
Speaker 1: think I think I saw that that was being either way,
Speaker 1: whatever the thing is it's the floor. They'll never reprint
Speaker 1: something shittier than that, and if they do, you don't
Speaker 1: have to play it for five years. So it makes
Speaker 1: like this is this is the baseline for each burn, spell, counterspell,
Speaker 1: vanilla Green creature. There's like a.
Speaker 2: Twelve eight six or yeah, yeah, diculous.
Speaker 1: So it's telling us kind of where their their eyeballs
Speaker 1: are going, and it gives us that metaphorical floor of
Speaker 1: this is how this is where cards will be now
Speaker 1: for five years. And I think that's cool.
Speaker 2: I like, I got two I got two things. First thing,
Speaker 2: did I wonder if the camera SidD you see I
Speaker 2: just spit everywhere? Did you see that?
Speaker 1: Didn't see it?
Speaker 2: Second thing, and this is a criticism of coursets, and
Speaker 2: it's a concern that I've seen online that that plays
Speaker 2: right into what you're just talking about. And I have
Speaker 2: a note to talk about it. So it's interesting that
Speaker 2: you brought that up. The floor. This is the the
Speaker 2: new metric. This is I can't play anything that's worse
Speaker 2: than this because this is the metric. Like this is
Speaker 2: one point ozho on the scale of what you do
Speaker 2: in magic. Anything that's below a one point zero in
Speaker 2: power level. Let's call let's use that language you're looking
Speaker 2: for the power No, does this put you into a box?
Speaker 2: Does it simplify? Does it remove complexity? Does it make
Speaker 2: it I won't say easy, but does it make it
Speaker 2: less difficult? To say this is good or this is bad?
Speaker 2: Like let's just pretend there's a mono red Goblin burn
Speaker 2: deck and right when foundations plus whatever sets are alongside
Speaker 2: it in Standard? Right when foundation is the set? De jure,
Speaker 2: that's the deck and it's primarily a foundation's built deck. Okay,
Speaker 2: does it make it easier or harder to to build
Speaker 2: new decks? Does it make it more simple less complex?
Speaker 2: I want us initially say yes it does.
Speaker 1: I think it certainly does.
Speaker 2: Because it's like this, this is what magic is at
Speaker 2: its at its very core. Yes, right core set Right,
Speaker 2: But I want to say no upon further thought, because
Speaker 2: you're already doing that, just on a shorter timeline. Right now.
Speaker 2: The best deck in Standard? Is this is this jank
Speaker 2: deck or whatever I'm trying to build more powerful than it?
Speaker 2: Or does this is this a meta deck that I'm
Speaker 2: trying to beat a certain deck in the format and
Speaker 2: I don't care about other matchups? Right, Like, this is
Speaker 2: not really an EDH question, it's more of a standard
Speaker 2: style question. But instead of asking that question and kind
Speaker 2: of maintaining that status quo over a one year period
Speaker 2: of standard rotation or a three year period of standard rotation,
Speaker 2: depending on exactly your arrangement of cards, now it's over
Speaker 2: a five year period of standard rotation. Is that good
Speaker 2: or bad? I tend to think that longer rotation periods
Speaker 2: increase the range. Look at Legacy, right, Legacy very established
Speaker 2: dominant decks. There are decks that you know are the
Speaker 2: best decks that you do have to beat, which you
Speaker 2: have to Animator, you have to have to beat Omniscience,
Speaker 2: You've got to beat those cards, right, Which makes it
Speaker 2: seem like it's not very complex. Oh, I just have
Speaker 2: to either beat those decks or play those decks and
Speaker 2: knocket beat. Yes, but Legacy is arguably the most complex
Speaker 2: and nuanced format out of any magic format. Right.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, yes, where you can look back
Speaker 1: at your game and you can actually see where the
Speaker 1: game went from here to here to hear to hear
Speaker 1: based on what manny you tap.
Speaker 2: And again, that makes it sound simpleful, simple, simpliful. That's reductive, right,
Speaker 2: And it seems like legacy based on its best deck
Speaker 2: nature or powerful deck nature is reductive. But it but
Speaker 2: when you try to do it in practice, it's hard.
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's like driving a race car. Here's my
Speaker 2: here's my automotive analogy for the week. Sure is, Oh man,
Speaker 2: all I have to do is drive really fast.
Speaker 1: I just have to go fast and turn left.
Speaker 2: That's really easy. Oh yeah, Okay, try and do that
Speaker 2: alongside one hundred other professional race car drivers. You'll get
Speaker 2: smoked every single time, twice on Sunday.
Speaker 1: It's hard.
Speaker 2: Right. So for the people that are saying core sets
Speaker 2: are reductive, long, this long rotation window is going to
Speaker 2: be bad for standard as far as I look, even
Speaker 2: if it is, hold on, I got to finish this thought.
Speaker 2: Even if it is for those reasons, I think that
Speaker 2: the good that this set introduces outweighs the bad in
Speaker 2: that it's going to be affordable, it's gonna get the
Speaker 2: kind of new players we want into the game, the
Speaker 2: kinds of new players that are going to enter into
Speaker 2: the format, probably as young i'll say kids, but young adults,
Speaker 2: and a lot of those kids with their parents. Because
Speaker 2: it's going to be really easy for parents to pick
Speaker 2: up a product that they know is, oh, this is
Speaker 2: how I start. This is how we start. Right, And
Speaker 2: you're gonna see a dad and a kid at the
Speaker 2: LGS learning how to play a game, and they sit
Speaker 2: down with somebody like you or I and and they say, hey,
Speaker 2: we've we've played Foundations, we've played Jumpstart, we built standard decks,
Speaker 2: but we've heard about Commander. It seems like it's got
Speaker 2: more creativity, it's more expressive, and we say, join us.
Speaker 2: It's so much more rich and steeped in culture and imagination.
Speaker 2: It is the like the frontier of magic to talk
Speaker 2: more shit. Yeah, exactly. And that's the people that we
Speaker 2: want coming in. I'm not saying that we don't want
Speaker 2: the legacy players that are only playing Ceah and trying
Speaker 2: to pub stump for prizes. I'm not saying we don't
Speaker 2: want those people. But if I get the opportunity to
Speaker 2: sit down with a young adult and their parent and
Speaker 2: tell them about the culture behind Magic and how Commander
Speaker 2: is really this expressive and in some some ways life
Speaker 2: changing and never stops giving, that's what Foundations can introduced
Speaker 2: to people. I think that's very important.
Speaker 1: The rotation window is only extending for Foundations. The rest
Speaker 1: of the sets still whatever the I think it's rotation.
Speaker 1: I think whatever the rotation is, it's staying. Which is
Speaker 1: so like the your the cons and the Skylanders and
Speaker 1: the Spider Man's, they're all gonna rotate out and they're.
Speaker 2: Gonna be gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, And all of those things I said
Speaker 1: are real. So they're all gonna rotate out. The Foundations
Speaker 1: still going to be there, so there will be a
Speaker 1: through line of cards. So if you the cards again
Speaker 1: that you've invested in, that you've bought over the course
Speaker 1: of two three years is before standard rotation. Once Standard rotates,
Speaker 1: your whole deck isn't just gone. The backbone of it
Speaker 1: will maybe still be the your removal package, you're some
Speaker 1: of your you know what I mean. There'll be core
Speaker 1: cards corset that will still ex I think that's really cool.
Speaker 1: And we're not a standard podcast, but I really do
Speaker 1: think that this set is going to be good for
Speaker 1: that format, which I believe has been struggling, and I
Speaker 1: think this might help not breathe life into it, but
Speaker 1: breathe confidence back into a player base. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to invest in all these cards and all this
Speaker 1: money in the best deck, only to have it each
Speaker 1: shit two years from now. Afterward, it's a band, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like the breathing confidence into standard. I like that,
Speaker 2: like having the backbone of decks remain the backbone of decks.
Speaker 2: I like all of that. Is there stuff like that
Speaker 2: in other games? That's a question I had for you.
Speaker 2: And they could be digital games, because I know you're
Speaker 2: far more familiar with with like traditional gaming on consoles.
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking like D and D starter kits. I'm
Speaker 2: thinking of other complex board games that have like lots
Speaker 2: of pieces. I'm thinking of like Descent, which is like
Speaker 2: D and D Light. You get your little characters, you
Speaker 2: get your dungeon, you get your character cards pre made,
Speaker 2: and you go and play a board game that is
Speaker 2: kind of like D and D. But it's all in
Speaker 2: one package, correct, right? Does Warhammer have this? Can I
Speaker 2: just go and buy an army, like a starter army
Speaker 2: and a can I think I remember Laura telling me
Speaker 2: about scrimmage skrimages, skirmages where you buy like a mini army,
Speaker 2: you just go and fight another mini army.
Speaker 1: I was actually at I was at Dragon's Den yesterday.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a local game store in our city.
Speaker 1: And yes you can. They have little armies that are
Speaker 1: just in the box. There you go. This is a
Speaker 1: I don't understand all the terminology. I don't play Warhammer.
Speaker 2: Oh I wish I did. I wish I had the
Speaker 2: time and the money.
Speaker 1: To do that. It had a like a was a
Speaker 1: point value, but it had like this is, if you're
Speaker 1: playing at this level, this army will take you into
Speaker 1: the game and you can just play it. Yes, and so,
Speaker 1: yes you can do that. Yes, Descent does that. Yes,
Speaker 1: D and D does that. They give you the stuff
Speaker 1: to just enter you in, and it's at a price
Speaker 1: point that is I would say acceptable.
Speaker 2: I was gonna use the word acceptable and then add
Speaker 2: acceptable as something like a Christmas present from your grandma.
Speaker 1: Correct. And one thing about this again being legal for
Speaker 1: five years, all these cards are gonna be around the
Speaker 1: prices on a standard printing of any card in this set,
Speaker 1: I would assume will be.
Speaker 2: Very low, like a single.
Speaker 1: Yes, if you're going to go out and buy singles
Speaker 1: from this set, they will be very affordable.
Speaker 2: And if you wanted to save five percent, you.
Speaker 1: Could go to Fusion and you see Ceo Summer or
Speaker 1: whatever the promo code is next year and save that
Speaker 1: five percent. And that's pretty cool. Even the cards like
Speaker 1: the Blasphemous Awakening, we'll talk about one.
Speaker 2: Go oh yeah, Black Black three Sorcery.
Speaker 1: You could sacks thirteen bros. Yes, cost one if yeah,
Speaker 1: thirteen bros in place.
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that card.
Speaker 1: It's blasphemous act, but it definitely kills.
Speaker 2: Everything unless some guys got fifteen creatures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean they probably don't. They probably they
Speaker 1: probably don't.
Speaker 2: Though there is a monogreen Sapreling legend.
Speaker 1: Yes, I can't wait to play.
Speaker 2: He's got the funniest little art. He's got these little
Speaker 2: mushroom babies. Have you seen that one? Yes, I want
Speaker 2: to go old school and make a mono green Sapreling
Speaker 2: deck or a mono green Beast deck because those it's
Speaker 2: actually a grull card. It's got a it's got a
Speaker 2: Gruel Manna symbol in the textbox. Yeah. I want to
Speaker 2: go old school and do some of the stuff from
Speaker 2: I'll say my childhood, but what I mean is my
Speaker 2: magic childhood. First booster box being onslaught ever ever ever
Speaker 2: that I opened, and beasts were one of the creature
Speaker 2: types that mattered. It was a creature type matter set,
Speaker 2: and beast was the green creature type. And my friend
Speaker 2: had a beast deck, friend, Adam Man, he just he
Speaker 2: just railed us with it. And I want to I
Speaker 2: want to make a monogreen Saparling deck because Saperlings were
Speaker 2: big Ala invasion and Odyssey blocks. Yeah, and I want
Speaker 2: to do that. But not do jetmeir, not do riff
Speaker 2: not do you know, conclave tokens whatever. I just want
Speaker 2: mono green sapperlings, make freaking a thousand guys. You don't
Speaker 2: want to do Comal could put him in the nineties. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not a little mushroom guy, a little mushroom babies.
Speaker 1: Though, he's got kind of a mushroom shaped head.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh mushroom head.
Speaker 1: Do not google that. Don't google no, no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right.
Speaker 2: Okay, So good good forum.
Speaker 1: I'd say value wise, it's good. The health of the game.
Speaker 1: I think this is good. If you're somebody that's on
Speaker 1: the Internet right now, and I'm gonna categorize you as
Speaker 1: a whiner if you're whining about there being so many
Speaker 1: universes beyond if you want to see the most magic
Speaker 1: magic set that we're gonna see. I'm gonna say all year,
Speaker 1: this is it.
Speaker 2: I bet you this is it.
Speaker 1: This is the most magic themed, magic, feeling Magic, the
Speaker 1: Gathering set that we will see in the next calendar year.
Speaker 2: I agree, and and I'm going to expand on the
Speaker 2: theory behind that a little bit, do it. Okay, So,
Speaker 2: when you started playing magic and your relationship with magic
Speaker 2: isn't as like deep and insightful and penetrating as it
Speaker 2: is now sure, and you can't bend the rules and
Speaker 2: really flex your creativity within magic's rules set, then, like
Speaker 2: you can now correct, I would say magic is was
Speaker 2: a simpler thing at that time, just based on your
Speaker 2: command of the rules. Yes, Now if what if the set?
Speaker 2: What if the product did that for you and boiled
Speaker 2: it down to my two tumor folk is going to
Speaker 2: attack into your two to one one goblins, and this
Speaker 2: is going to feel very much like classical traditional high
Speaker 2: fantasy magic, but within familiar terms. I'm gonna see a
Speaker 2: bird's of paradise. I'm gonna see Alnimar elves, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: see a goblin dropkick guy, right, I'm gonna see all
Speaker 2: these traditional things when when I play Foundations Limited, let's say,
Speaker 2: or jump Start, I go back to jump Start because
Speaker 2: I enjoy it so much, and I play so much
Speaker 2: Jumpstart at the face to Face events, play jump Start
Speaker 2: at Coco Experiences, because usually we get like a blox.
Speaker 2: And I know that that's not Commander, but but it's
Speaker 2: gonna feel like Magic when you were young. And I
Speaker 2: really think that's inspirational. Not because I'm gonna get all
Speaker 2: these powerful cards that I'm gonna build decks out of,
Speaker 2: but because I'm gonna be excited to play magic in
Speaker 2: this new way. And there are thirty nine new Commanders,
Speaker 2: and I am gonna get some of those in Foundation
Speaker 2: Boosters and in Jumpstart packs, I'm gonna get those. And
Speaker 2: when I get the Beast one, when I get the
Speaker 2: Saparling one, I think it's an uncommon I'm gonna want
Speaker 2: to play them. I'm gonna want to build decks. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna want to go and find all my green Saparlink
Speaker 2: cards from two thousand and two and put them into
Speaker 2: a deck and see if I can make ten thousand
Speaker 2: sap and just be sad.
Speaker 1: Every turn when you put one spot count run shitt No.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna do those, no way, no, right, wow,
Speaker 2: Maybe I will, and I'll play Doubling Season probably, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. But it's inspirational because it's going to give
Speaker 2: me kind of that spark that I had when I
Speaker 2: was in middle school building decks out of what I had. Now,
Speaker 2: what I have is a whole arsenal of twenty years
Speaker 2: worth of magic playing and this new card that gave
Speaker 2: me the inspiration to spread all this stuff out on
Speaker 2: my office floor in my house and build like I'm
Speaker 2: thirteen again. And to me, that's exciting. And when I
Speaker 2: combine that with my seven year old son, who can
Speaker 2: read now and is interested in playing more complex board games.
Speaker 2: He can read, he can count, he knows he can
Speaker 2: keep track of like a rules of a game, and
Speaker 2: combine that with simpler magic over the next four or
Speaker 2: five years, combine that with the SpongeBob secret Layer that
Speaker 2: he already knows about and wants me to get for him.
Speaker 2: That that's gonna be my son's gateway into the game,
Speaker 2: right And and maybe maybe his first deck will be
Speaker 2: the Mono Green Sapraline deck or the Gruel Beast deck.
Speaker 2: Uncle Brando approved, I bet you, right, He's gonna give
Speaker 2: him his first brash tunder and say point this at
Speaker 2: your dad every time, right, And that's that's gonna be
Speaker 2: our collective relationship, is Brando and my son trying to
Speaker 2: beat me with with decks that I built for him.
Speaker 2: So that's what's exciting for me about it, because I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna play Standard. No, I'm gonna play Commander, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use these new cards with my son because hey,
Speaker 2: it's not really affordable for me either unless I just
Speaker 2: buy Foundations, right, And it's it's exciting for me for
Speaker 2: that reason.
Speaker 1: You know what you're gonna get. Also, we talked about
Speaker 1: you mentioned it. We broke in a bunch of times
Speaker 1: on the show. First podcast to ever break doubling season.
Speaker 1: Oh it's in Foundations, it is, are we yes? Oh good?
Speaker 1: Are we going to see sub twenty dollars doubling season
Speaker 1: for the first time in twenty years?
Speaker 2: I didn't know we were a comedy podcast.
Speaker 1: Could it happen? Could it happen? Though it could, it's
Speaker 1: a hypothetical possibility. They're going to be opening and I'll
Speaker 1: bet you not lot lots of those go into Standard decks.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm hoping I'm holding out for twenty dollars doubling
Speaker 2: season like.
Speaker 1: We could see it holding it's a hypothetical possibility.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about a few other
Speaker 2: cards that we've seen that I really like.
Speaker 1: And we said we weren't going to do the sets proper,
Speaker 1: So we're going to do the outside of the set
Speaker 1: proper where but cards you can still get when buying
Speaker 1: set set.
Speaker 2: Now, these are called special guests.
Speaker 1: Yes, before we say anything, I'm going to say that
Speaker 1: this is my favorite lineup of special guests yet. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: not all these cards or bangers, but they are all
Speaker 1: play I've seen every one of these cards played in
Speaker 1: decks and I play all but two of them.
Speaker 2: I think everyone is good except for one. They could
Speaker 2: have done better.
Speaker 1: Is it this one?
Speaker 2: No, it's this one? Anyways, let's okay, Okay, so special
Speaker 2: Guests we get them only in collector packs.
Speaker 1: Nope, you can get them in play boosters, any booster. Okay?
Speaker 2: Can I get them in foil in any booster?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. It's good to know we've got how
Speaker 2: many ten of them? And they are this is my
Speaker 2: favorite part. They are in the showcase frame treatments from
Speaker 2: different sets over the last however many years. And I
Speaker 2: love this because people who collect those or that showcase
Speaker 2: treatment get another one for their collection that they can get. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like this for the same reason. But the opposite
Speaker 2: of that is, let's say there's one of these is
Speaker 2: Sphinx's Toutelage. It's a mill card in the Theough's Constellation showcase.
Speaker 2: If I see that, and I say, that's a beautiful
Speaker 2: magic card.
Speaker 1: That's the coolest thing.
Speaker 2: I want to get the rest of them now. And
Speaker 2: now I have this new little, random, little trinkety style,
Speaker 2: very obtainable collectible kind of set that I can go after, because,
Speaker 2: let's face it, collecting magic is daunting and overwhelming and expensive. Yes,
Speaker 2: so if I can go and get all like the
Speaker 2: heavy metal called time frame treatments, that's obtainable, it's cheap,
Speaker 2: it's it's cool to look at and showcase. You can
Speaker 2: frame them, you can put them in a binder page.
Speaker 2: I love that. And I'd like to go over the
Speaker 2: card selection with you and do it and where they
Speaker 2: were featured originally. See if you can see if you
Speaker 2: can knock it all out of the park here.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: The first one is condemned instant for white target attacking
Speaker 2: creature on the bottom of its owner's library. It's controller
Speaker 2: Yane's life equal to its toughness. Where did that frame
Speaker 2: come from?
Speaker 1: Strixaven?
Speaker 2: Strix Haven, there's mystical archives.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's mystical archive in Strixhaven. Not the Japanese like
Speaker 1: super Duper one, but like the Flowy Goldie Blukie one,
Speaker 1: those are cool. That's the card that I was like,
Speaker 1: is this the one that was kind of poopy? Because
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a good removal spell.
Speaker 1: It's what anybody play it, though I don't think I've
Speaker 1: seen somebody play that card in maybe ever.
Speaker 2: When you're up against swords and path yeah, you're not
Speaker 2: gonna get played. But if you're a deck that's very
Speaker 2: tricksy and light on mass removal, condemn goes in.
Speaker 1: But why do people play like Well, I guess people
Speaker 1: play generous Gift because it kills anything, yes, not just
Speaker 1: a creature that's attacking you.
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, it's a fine card.
Speaker 1: We talked about Sphinx's Tootel lives. That's the constellation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the milk card.
Speaker 2: Whenever you draw a card, target opponent Mills two. If
Speaker 2: the two are the same color, you repeat the process
Speaker 2: and prove at that four. That almost always Mills, somebody
Speaker 2: who's playing a model or two color deck and burvak
Speaker 2: and then you can go five blue draw than discards.
Speaker 2: So it's got the draw built right in.
Speaker 1: And it's an eminently playable card, as you just demonstrated.
Speaker 1: The next grim Tutor is next.
Speaker 2: That's a good card in the Caldheim heavy metal style.
Speaker 1: Blarry Black one. Search your library for card lose three life.
Speaker 2: Yep, pretty good, very good card, very powerful card and
Speaker 2: great reprint fifteen to twenty dollars card yep, right.
Speaker 1: And again eminently playable card.
Speaker 2: I play while including this next one three of the
Speaker 2: first four. This is Ember Cleave. This is a flash
Speaker 2: artifact equipment red Red four. It costs one less to
Speaker 2: cast for each attacking creature you control, so it costs
Speaker 2: red red and it auto equips and it gives plus
Speaker 2: one plus one and double strike.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so good. And it's in the storybrook frame
Speaker 1: from Eldraindrain.
Speaker 2: Yes, both al drains we've seen the same treatment.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm excited for this one because I don't have
Speaker 1: a foil Embercleve and I like this one better than
Speaker 1: a regular Embercleve, so in every way that this is
Speaker 1: a cool card. This is a cool card for me.
Speaker 1: I want one of these. Yeah, pretty bad. I cited
Speaker 1: for that one.
Speaker 2: I have a foil ember Cleve and Lord of Tresserhorn.
Speaker 2: Hell of a card in that deck because it instant
Speaker 2: kills you because he's a ten to four yep, he
Speaker 2: becomes an eleven to five double striker yep, and you
Speaker 2: immediately die. And I think I like this one better though.
Speaker 2: I've tried to stick to regular foils instead of showcase foil,
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure what I'm gonna do yet. Well,
Speaker 2: what do you think I should do?
Speaker 1: I would get this one. It's a cooler. I like
Speaker 1: to picture on this one too. If you're watched on YouTube,
Speaker 1: which should be, you'll be able to see the picture.
Speaker 1: It's really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really cool I like that one. This
Speaker 2: one's a great reprint too, because that card is actually
Speaker 2: getting expensive.
Speaker 1: Yes, expensive card, especially in foil. The foils are still
Speaker 1: not like super expensive, but they're in the tens of dollars.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. Okay, next one, it's my favorite one.
Speaker 2: This one the common from Zenda Car is over two
Speaker 2: dollars now, yes, the common from Zenda Car, so extracurricular
Speaker 2: printings of this card have actually gone up to almost
Speaker 2: ten dollars. This is Goblin Bushwhacker, a one to one
Speaker 2: Goblin Warrior for Red kicker of Red. When this creature enters,
Speaker 2: if it was kicked creatures you control, get plus one
Speaker 2: plus oh and gain haste intel end of turn.
Speaker 1: Very good. And it's in the showcase frame from whatever
Speaker 1: the last.
Speaker 2: Zenda Car set was, Zendy Car Rising. That's the one
Speaker 2: Zenda Car Rising, so.
Speaker 1: Immediately fucking cool as that is my second favorite showcase treatment.
Speaker 2: At that one.
Speaker 1: I love that one.
Speaker 2: I love the art style. I don't like the frame.
Speaker 2: It seems like blase.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. I actually have a full set
Speaker 1: now minus one of that showcase.
Speaker 2: Treatment, and you'll be getting this one because a full
Speaker 2: set B Goblin.
Speaker 1: B Goblin and see Goblin that I actually play in decks.
Speaker 2: Oh, see play.
Speaker 1: I actually play that card actively in more than one deck,
Speaker 1: right now. I really like that one.
Speaker 2: These do these come in foil and nonfoil?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, good, because this next one I play an anamar
Speaker 2: and it's my one hundred percent painted art deck. Yes,
Speaker 2: this one might be going in instead of my current
Speaker 2: copy of bloom Tender. It's a one one Elf Druid
Speaker 2: for green one tap, add a color of mana for
Speaker 2: each color of permanence among colored permanent.
Speaker 1: You control in the Art Deco style made famous in
Speaker 1: Gangsta set.
Speaker 2: Yes whatever that one was Streets of New Kopena. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love this one. I love that Art Deco style,
Speaker 2: as I have talked about over and over now for
Speaker 2: two or three years, however long that's been. And this
Speaker 2: is a good one in a card that I play
Speaker 2: great reprint.
Speaker 1: I'm happy people are going to get it. Not my
Speaker 1: not my cup of tea because I wasn't a huge
Speaker 1: fan of the Art Deco style, sorry guys. But again,
Speaker 1: cool that people are going to be able to just
Speaker 1: open a bloom Tender and then have one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Another twenty twenty dollars card. Yeah, next one is
Speaker 2: a twenty cent card. This is the big just miss.
Speaker 2: I think this is Paradise Druid, especially considering we have
Speaker 2: another like F and M promo or something of this,
Speaker 2: like a pimp version. This is another Elf Druid two
Speaker 2: to one for green one has hex proof as long
Speaker 2: as it's untapped and taps for a Mana of any
Speaker 2: color fine card.
Speaker 1: There's a fantastic mutate target in Aikoria standard. Back in
Speaker 1: the the the dark days when you would play magic online,
Speaker 1: you just mutate the shit out of this thing because
Speaker 1: nobody could kill it. And then you just keep mutating
Speaker 1: onto it. And the other guy was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that cards are losing three, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: And that's good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, then they die and then you could tap it
Speaker 1: for Manna and then they'd immediately kill your whole mutat pop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is the tap it for Mana and
Speaker 2: then you just get blown out. This is in the
Speaker 2: art art nuevo style of Ravnak.
Speaker 1: Did they ever actually use that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, there's there's lots with the city like
Speaker 2: this kind of storybook city style backdrop.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't that just for the like Invade all
Speaker 1: Our One or March of the Machine when they just
Speaker 1: brought in the showcase the sets and Ravenic can never
Speaker 1: hang So.
Speaker 2: I think so, but that is the one for raven.
Speaker 1: It is Ravnica, but I don't think they've ever actually
Speaker 1: used it, and I think it's stupid.
Speaker 2: Or in the words of Brando, I hate it.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is absolutely correct.
Speaker 2: You very much have to cross your arms like this
Speaker 2: when you do it.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 2: I hate it, Okay, next to oh, really good. A
Speaker 2: Chroma's Memorial, Give it a read.
Speaker 1: A Chroma's Memorial is a legendary artifact for seven creatures
Speaker 1: you control have flying, first strike, vigilance, trample, haste and
Speaker 1: protection from black and protection from red.
Speaker 2: Expensive card, no rest, no mercy in what in the
Speaker 2: Dominaria stained glass treatment a fan favorite.
Speaker 1: I think Hayes even like the basic lands in that
Speaker 1: treatment are a couple of bucks for the non foil ones.
Speaker 1: People like that that showcase that's good.
Speaker 2: That's a good one, and they look so good in foil, right,
Speaker 2: stained glass and foil it goes hand in hand. It's
Speaker 2: like sunshining through your window in if you have stained glass.
Speaker 1: I guess I like everything about that card. It's like
Speaker 1: it's expensive, so it's cool that it gets a reprint.
Speaker 1: It's so good and it's not one of those cards.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's so good and it costs two sort
Speaker 1: of blows. Commander Games out. It's a cool finisher in
Speaker 1: decks that maybe don't have one. Yeah, I used it
Speaker 1: for a while in my Talks Real deck, but I
Speaker 1: was still trying to win by attacking with slugs before
Speaker 1: Nasgoul came out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like NAS.
Speaker 1: And then because now I just when I make a
Speaker 1: bunch of slugs, I turn all the snugs and slugs
Speaker 1: into nasgules, and then all the nasguls get giant and
Speaker 1: and then I win.
Speaker 2: With Nas lugs slug goouls, slug gouls, sluggouls. Okay, next
Speaker 2: up I play this card.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is temporal manipulation. Another twenty isht dollar card.
Speaker 1: Done in the Neon Dynasty.
Speaker 2: One Showcase semi frame. Yeah, yeah, this is Blue Blue
Speaker 2: three Sorcery. Take an extra turn after this one. You know,
Speaker 2: my favorite part about this card is is it doesn't
Speaker 2: say target player takes an extra turn. No misdirections here,
Speaker 2: no no ext direction. I've had turns get stolen before
Speaker 2: when they say target player takes an extra turn, I
Speaker 2: just got all the way blown out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Not good, not very much fun for your good friend Ryan.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's a good one. Good reprint.
Speaker 1: Few bucks saying this one. I think at one point
Speaker 1: was a few next one.
Speaker 2: Hold on at one point the portal second age version
Speaker 2: of temporal manipulations like one hundred dollars. Now it's like
Speaker 2: thirty five, but this Special Guest one is still forty.
Speaker 2: But you can get copies of this card for cheaper now,
Speaker 2: and this is only gonna help those copies correct.
Speaker 1: And the final one, fiend Artisan done in my very
Speaker 1: very most favorite showcase treatment the Ikoria comic book Big
Speaker 1: Time Monster Art. Fiend Artisan is essentially a crappy birthing
Speaker 1: pod on a one to one for two.
Speaker 2: Yes, but it gets plus one plus one for each
Speaker 2: creature card in your graveyard. So when you sacrifice to
Speaker 2: pod something way, it gets bigger. Yes, and good to
Speaker 2: cast because it's Gulgary Gulgary hybrid. So this card was
Speaker 2: like very popular in Standard for a while, so to
Speaker 2: put it back into standard I think is probably pretty cool.
Speaker 2: These are legal in standard, right? Are the Special Guests
Speaker 2: legal in Standard? Would they put it to poor open
Speaker 2: manipulation in Standard? Why would they put grim Grim two?
Speaker 1: Or they might not? Maybe these aren't legal in standard.
Speaker 2: Well, this was a standard playable card, so to put
Speaker 2: it in the standard set does make sense kind of
Speaker 2: like kind of as an homage, right, And.
Speaker 1: It's a cool card and it's a cool picture too.
Speaker 2: Cool picture, cool art. It does what gulgury does. It
Speaker 2: either beats it, pods it, it does graveyard stuff. This
Speaker 2: card's good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get me one of those two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you under have a collection.
Speaker 1: Of these, Yes, I have a full set of those,
Speaker 1: including the Triomes mind you.
Speaker 2: Yep. And the Fiend Artisan was anywhere between like five
Speaker 2: and fifteen dollars depending on which version you got foil
Speaker 2: nonfoil showcase. There's a secret layer of it, right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah there was too, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, full arts. There's all versions of these cards, right, Like,
Speaker 2: there's so many fricking different versions. But that's why you
Speaker 2: get the vast price range in them, right, Yes, but
Speaker 2: I think I think all the cards are good.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. There's no cards in here that you're gonna open
Speaker 1: one of them and be like, oh fuck. I mean
Speaker 1: at one point, yes, you're getting a common with a
Speaker 1: mythic rare stamp on it in Paradise, Druid and Condemn,
Speaker 1: but Goblin Bushwhacker as well. Actually yes, but all of
Speaker 1: these cards are eminently playable. They're very good and it's
Speaker 1: cool to see them if they're not in Standard whatever,
Speaker 1: but just have them come back with some neat treatments on.
Speaker 1: They make for cool collectible items and cards that you
Speaker 1: can These are those cards that you're gonna open one
Speaker 1: in like a pack when you're new and somebody don't
Speaker 1: want to trade you for this.
Speaker 2: I actually like that and think that it goes right
Speaker 2: along the theme. Now, if we analyze these from a
Speaker 2: Commander perspective, I'm a new player and I open this
Speaker 2: trying to build my standard deck. I can trade this
Speaker 2: to a Commander player. You want the foil Embercleve, you
Speaker 2: get the foil Embercleve. I build my standard deck with
Speaker 2: whatever stuff you open for the most recent Brando's Box opening. Yeah, right?
Speaker 2: Or the other way around is I open up Magic
Speaker 2: Foundations because I want to do Jumpstart or buy bundles
Speaker 2: or build with my son, and I get a cool
Speaker 2: piece for my Commander deck. Like, who doesn't want to
Speaker 2: open a grim Tutor?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Remember remember in Vegas when when Jared opened too grim Tutors,
Speaker 2: same pack, one non FOI one foil drank his whole
Speaker 2: drink because grim Tutor. Yeah, the last time I cast
Speaker 2: an Ember Cleve we It was the final game of
Speaker 2: the night at the LGS. I walked down to the
Speaker 2: Coachman licensed beverage room. You guys are already all there, yep.
Speaker 2: And I says to you, guys, say you guys Embercleve
Speaker 2: hell of a magic card. Everybody just like held up
Speaker 2: their drinks. Yeah that's a good cut. Yeah. I just
Speaker 2: I just one punched a guy who was at like
Speaker 2: forty life and zero commander damage.
Speaker 1: I won the game.
Speaker 2: I just killed them, just irrased, fricking killed them, right,
Speaker 2: So I want to open up that card, a Chromo's memorial,
Speaker 2: your your favorite card, bloom Tender going in my animal deck.
Speaker 1: There's so much stuff, Like if I opened any one
Speaker 1: of these, I could probably find a home for it
Speaker 1: in a deck I'm playing right now.
Speaker 2: You still got a mutate deck.
Speaker 1: I don't anymore. Oh yeah, it was too If they
Speaker 1: do more mutate cards, I feel like they won't, which
Speaker 1: makes me sad. I would rebuild it, but it's just.
Speaker 2: It's too too much thinking.
Speaker 1: And it's too easy to just rot. Like I'm explaining
Speaker 1: to people what everything does and they're just like, you
Speaker 1: know what. Because I'm sick of hearing you talk, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to kill your creature. But it doesn't do anything.
Speaker 1: I don't care. He has a cause elect I don't care.
Speaker 1: I just want that thing to go away. So you
Speaker 1: stop talking, Brando. Okay, you want to hear another fucking
Speaker 1: game story. Okay, So guy had never played before at
Speaker 1: the LGS on your h and M Halloween Knight, Halloween Knight,
Speaker 1: ol Spooky comes in with the Beamtown Bullies. He opened one,
Speaker 1: looked at dhreck dot com.
Speaker 2: And thought course Leveler and Eater of Days. Those are
Speaker 2: the two cards.
Speaker 1: How do you? What do I do with this deck? Okay?
Speaker 1: And he did that, and I knew that he was
Speaker 1: new because like he tried to counter a spell with
Speaker 1: an assassin's trophy, right, Like he knew how his deck worked,
Speaker 1: but like he didn't quite understand timing and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff yet. So okay, all right, and he's
Speaker 1: going to make a mistake, which is beautiful, beautiful. I'm
Speaker 1: playing my I'm playing my Niku Sharts into Clones deck, right, okay,
Speaker 1: And so Beamtown Bullies, for those of you who don't know,
Speaker 1: it's a dude that lets you put a creature from
Speaker 1: your graveyard into play under an opponent's control goaded yep,
Speaker 1: and typically will give them a level, or it'll come
Speaker 1: into player, move their library from the game and they lose, or.
Speaker 2: An Eater of Days enters the battlefield. Skip your next
Speaker 2: two turns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck oo, Like it's just terrible. So what this
Speaker 1: guy does is it's a fucking card. So there's three
Speaker 1: of us left in this game. And but he doesn't
Speaker 1: have level, or he doesn't have Eater of Days, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have any of that stuff, and he's been What
Speaker 1: he does have is like a path Raiser of Ulla
Speaker 1: Maug or something. It's like a can't be blocked by
Speaker 1: three or it has to be blocked at least three creatures.
Speaker 1: Annihilator three.
Speaker 2: Ooh, yeah, that's a good card.
Speaker 1: Key his card is not legendary.
Speaker 2: Oh no, forer Nico. Oh no.
Speaker 1: So he gives it to me thinking I'm gonna swing
Speaker 1: into this guy and he's gonna ah, he'll have to
Speaker 1: annihilate three and all. And I look at the guy,
Speaker 1: who obviously is gettet attacked by his crew, say hey,
Speaker 1: you want to see something funny and he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do, And I say two tap Nico exile this path,
Speaker 1: Raiser Revola mag what the hell it is? Okay, my
Speaker 1: nine shards are going to turn into copies of that path.
Speaker 1: I will attack each of.
Speaker 2: You for fucking eighty one forty. The important part here,
Speaker 2: Annihilator twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Yes, that's the key was the one guy's at three,
Speaker 3: the other guys at four totally empty boards and three life.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like after the attacker before after.
Speaker 1: So I took them from full board state to literally
Speaker 1: nothing with one attack. It was so good. And the
Speaker 1: guys like, I should have read your commander, and I said, yes,
Speaker 1: you should have. You definitely should have read him before
Speaker 1: you decided to give that to me.
Speaker 2: Welcome to magic.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Those are some good games. We played
Speaker 1: six games that night, oh wow, because we eventually ended
Speaker 1: up the Three Men Pod. All the games were pretty good.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Games don't take very long when you have no freaking
Speaker 2: board and your life is three and your opponent's got
Speaker 2: nine nine nines.
Speaker 1: Yes, does not last long after that, Oh, lots of fun.
Speaker 1: I like stuff like so good.
Speaker 2: Well, what do you think? Final thought on Foundation?
Speaker 1: Final thought on Foundations. I am very excited for this
Speaker 1: set it's gonna come out while we're in Calgary, I think,
Speaker 1: so we'll probably be opening opening and flippying and dot
Speaker 1: drinking and some of this stuff. I don't I haven't
Speaker 1: seen any commanders that I personally want to build yet,
Speaker 1: but I am looking at lots of car.
Speaker 2: November fifteenth, twenty twenty four. So if you're in Calgary
Speaker 2: and you want to jumpy, I'll jumpy. I'll freaking take
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Speaker 1: You want to. If you want to opening, I'm your man.
Speaker 2: If you want to open flippy dot drinky, We're right
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Speaker 1: That's a whole house full of people that want to
Speaker 1: do that with.
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Speaker 1: Beer cozies will keep a hot drink hot in the winter, yes,
Speaker 1: and a cold drink cold in the summer, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: How does it know? Science acience?
Speaker 2: And you know what my favorite part about about a
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Speaker 2: like at the fire the other night when you're over
Speaker 2: my house, nobody's wearing gloves. But by the time it's
Speaker 2: dark and in the evening, you're holding your beer and
Speaker 2: your hand is cold. I don't need a cool in
Speaker 2: that situation to keep my beer cold, but to keep
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Speaker 1: Sorry for throwing so many beer cans into your fire pit.
Speaker 2: I fuck, I didn't even know that that happened.
Speaker 1: Good, But there are some beer cans in your because
Speaker 1: we didn't want Norray to come and like she was
Speaker 1: trying to lick all the beer out on the top
Speaker 1: of the can. You know dogs do that. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: instead of like so she couldn't do that, we smushed
Speaker 1: them up and we put them in the fire.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well she'll dig them out of there anyways.
Speaker 1: Well there's no beer left in them, so she can't
Speaker 1: get drunk. All right. We do not pause it support
Speaker 1: underage drinking here in the nation.
Speaker 2: Just us In and producer Gary Yes, yes, okay, well yeah,
Speaker 2: final thought. I'm excited it's coming out in Calgary also
Speaker 2: excited for that. Yes, I'm excited to get into cards
Speaker 2: next week. If you have got any Foundations decks either
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Speaker 2: guy that I'm probably gonna be built with my kid,
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Speaker 1: So I like it when my job is easy because
Speaker 1: I don't like to work hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very much.
Speaker 1: One thing I do want to say my one complaint
Speaker 1: about this set. One complaint I have one, and this
Speaker 1: is it.
Speaker 2: We didn't do the strengths and weaknesses, but we kind
Speaker 2: of ran out of time.
Speaker 1: We'll do it next week. Sure they reprinted Blasphemous Act
Speaker 1: and not Chain Reaction, and I so badly want a
Speaker 1: new art for Chain Reaction that it hurts a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I really wish that they had to reprint it.
Speaker 1: That one it's a Blashemius and you're.
Speaker 2: Just going to have to blast theeme instead of chain.
Speaker 1: I do both, and quite frankly, interrel chain reaction wins
Speaker 1: me more games because it does more Damna.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, I have to make one quick addendum. Oh do
Speaker 2: tell in Commander Cookout Night Nation. In the CCO Nation,
Speaker 2: we do both. Okay, take us out.
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