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Speaker 1: A two five five A ton of stuff going on.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize last night we had some issues in
Speaker 4: downtown Denver. Suzanna and I just got back into town,
Speaker 4: and I guess, uh, I don't want to call them riots.
Speaker 4: I didn't really see the video, but it looked like
Speaker 4: there was some protests going on, and it looked like,
Speaker 4: according to at least Fox or nine News, there was
Speaker 4: somewhere around thirteen or fifteen different arrestmate. Of course, we
Speaker 4: all saw what was going on in Los Angeles. That
Speaker 4: was pretty crazy. Trump sent in the National Guard, which
Speaker 4: is unbelievable, and then I guess there's some marines there
Speaker 4: protecting some of the federal property.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Talk about escalating, I've never seen like the far left,
Speaker 4: and I mean, I don't even mind saying the far
Speaker 4: right or the current administration. I actually don't consider Trump
Speaker 4: the far far right, but he's definitely.
Speaker 1: To the right.
Speaker 4: The way they escalate each other is pretty amazing. They
Speaker 4: just come out feud and constantly, and I don't know
Speaker 4: when the end of it'll be. I'm just happy the
Speaker 4: stock market's still doing good. I'm happy Tesla has come
Speaker 4: back up. I owned a lot of Tesla's stock, and
Speaker 4: that guy went kind of insane there for a little bit.
Speaker 4: I mean, my got a feud between him and Trump.
Speaker 4: Two billionaires bitching at each other publicly. That were great
Speaker 4: friends not long ago, was absolutely insane. Doctor Joel Chardak
Speaker 4: joins me in studio. Doctor Joel is the owner of
Speaker 4: Denver region dot com. A lot of people know I've
Speaker 4: been on that diet medication and I get it through
Speaker 4: Denver Regent. In fact, Doc, I took my shot this morning,
Speaker 4: and I'm so used to it. I remember when I
Speaker 4: first started six months ago. I was terrified, literally terrified
Speaker 4: the shot would hurt. And it's it is such a
Speaker 4: nothing burger. It's crazy. You don't even feel it, honestly.
Speaker 5: Right, that's the same experience we get with most of
Speaker 5: our patients. You know, it's a little fear of the needle,
Speaker 5: which is understandable, but it's an insulin needle. It's like
Speaker 5: almost microscopically.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to like find an artery or anything.
Speaker 4: You just basically put it right in your stomach. You
Speaker 4: feel nothing. And I know that sounds horrible because I
Speaker 4: one of those people that put it off, But you know,
Speaker 4: I wanted to get rid of that last forty pounds
Speaker 4: I weighed a little over two hundred and thirty.
Speaker 1: I'm down to like one ninety five.
Speaker 4: In fact, I just got back from Las Vegas, some
Speaker 4: of the best food in the world, and I actually
Speaker 4: lost a pound while.
Speaker 1: I was there.
Speaker 4: I just think, yeah, I know, but you think of
Speaker 4: the money you saved too with restaurants, especially in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4: Especially in Las Vegas, there's some wonderful restaurants. I'd argue
Speaker 4: Las Vegas has the best food in the country, better
Speaker 4: than New York City, better than California. They fly stuff
Speaker 4: in fresh every hour on the hour from the coastline
Speaker 4: from wherever it needs to be.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Doc, I say, I think you're right. The
Speaker 6: only difference is being in New York. I have to
Speaker 6: stand up for us. The quantity is unbelievable In New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they give you more food.
Speaker 7: Well no, no, I mean a number of places that you
Speaker 7: can eat.
Speaker 4: Oh, Doc, when's the last time you've been to Vegas.
Speaker 4: I mean there's like eight million restaurants.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but then it's twenty million in that's probably say
Speaker 6: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: There's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: An Italian food in New York City is delicious. South Jersey,
Speaker 4: where I grew up, of course, some of the best
Speaker 4: Italian food in the world. Cheese steaks over in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: There's still nothing like a Philly cheese stick. Where'd you
Speaker 4: grow up, Doc.
Speaker 7: South Florida?
Speaker 5: Oh wow, seafood fish Yeah, and it's cheap.
Speaker 1: It's abundant and it's cheap. Yep.
Speaker 4: I mean really, And then we've been looking out there
Speaker 4: possibly for a house or a uh, you know, a
Speaker 4: winter getaway to put it in a better way. So, Susannah,
Speaker 4: I've been out there in Louisiana and other places and Grits.
Speaker 1: Krusha loves it.
Speaker 8: Grits.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, you're gonna have to say that, Doc Wan
Speaker 6: or Doc two, so you know who you're talking to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. Two ducks. I'll say, retired doc that's you,
Speaker 4: and not retired doc, that's doctor Joel. These guys over
Speaker 4: at Denver Region, they have a new product I.
Speaker 1: Wanted to talk about and kind of dive into.
Speaker 4: And I'm very interesting in it for numerous reasons, and
Speaker 4: one of them is years ago, and I just want
Speaker 4: to get this part out of the way. Years ago,
Speaker 4: we had a company on Doc Suzanne, who was it
Speaker 4: with the ship in stem cells?
Speaker 1: Who was it? For the life of me.
Speaker 4: A second, I can't think of the guy's name in
Speaker 4: the morning. Yeah, there's two. There's two companies. I can remember.
Speaker 4: Three companies. I can remember hating to deal with that.
Speaker 4: We actually have potential. No, Centeno's good. Okay, Yeah, Sintenna
Speaker 4: was the guy that kind of kind of started stem
Speaker 4: cells in a way. But anyhow, that's a different story.
Speaker 4: But I can't think of the name of this clinic.
Speaker 4: But basically they were shipping in stem cells that did nothing.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how else to put it.
Speaker 4: We had more than one person show up to this clinic.
Speaker 4: It's probably over ten years ago, way pre COVID. God,
Speaker 4: I wish I could remember the damn name of that place.
Speaker 4: But anyhow, Doc, they were just ripoffs. They were charging
Speaker 4: fifteen thousand dollars and they were basically saying that you know,
Speaker 4: you get this magic potion of stem cells that we
Speaker 4: get from wherever they got it, China or I don't
Speaker 4: even remember where they got it. And if you had
Speaker 4: a bad shoulder, bam, your shoulder was fine, you have
Speaker 4: a bad knee, bam, your knees fine.
Speaker 6: I think it was a mambiotic fluid log if I
Speaker 6: remember correctly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably was.
Speaker 4: But regardless of any of that, the bottom line was
Speaker 4: the product wasn't working. It just simply wasn't working. So
Speaker 4: we kind of part ways with those guys. But there
Speaker 4: was that one. Then there was a solar company, solar Mart,
Speaker 4: and we advertised for them for a long time and
Speaker 4: then the guy just got I don't know what happened
Speaker 4: to him, Honestly, I have no idea the guy.
Speaker 1: The guy just.
Speaker 4: Went crazy and we had to kill that relationship. And
Speaker 4: then there was one more that I just lost my
Speaker 4: train of thought on. But there was one more. But Doc,
Speaker 4: I want to talk about this neuropathy in your stem
Speaker 4: cell treatment, Okay, I mean I really do want to
Speaker 4: dive in and understand it.
Speaker 1: When we talked about what you guys do for hair
Speaker 1: last time you were in, it was amazing.
Speaker 4: My education level went way up on it because you
Speaker 4: do use some form of stem cells PRP along with
Speaker 4: the actual transplant, and the results, well results are what
Speaker 4: results are, and they're unbelievable.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 5: Well, Tom had the procedure done. He spoke about it
Speaker 5: on his show numerous times and talked about how well
Speaker 5: it worked for him.
Speaker 1: It worked so well for him, it was crazy.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, because of his current situation, just getting over cancer,
Speaker 4: and he had some chemo and stuff that didn't exactly
Speaker 4: help the hair by any man certainly. But I'll tell
Speaker 4: you this before that I was absolutely shocked how quick
Speaker 4: his hair was growing.
Speaker 1: It was amazing.
Speaker 4: Yes, in fact, I've never seen anything like it, and
Speaker 4: I well, okay, I digress.
Speaker 1: It was it was absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4: But now you guys have something for neuropathy, and I
Speaker 4: don't suffer from neuropathy, but I know a lot of
Speaker 4: diabetics do, correct, So I kind of want to dive
Speaker 4: into that, and I want to dive in the actual
Speaker 4: results once again. To me, everything comes down to results.
Speaker 4: I've seen it with hair. I've done your diet drug.
Speaker 4: I've lost I'm down to basically one ninety five thirty
Speaker 4: five pounds in less than six months. By the way,
Speaker 4: do most people hit like a plateau. I hit a
Speaker 4: plateau at about I want to say, twenty or twenty
Speaker 4: five pounds, and that next ten pounds took a lot
Speaker 4: longer I say a lot longer. It only took like
Speaker 4: a month. But then the original is that normal real quick?
Speaker 7: That's very typical.
Speaker 5: Why is that those first pounds are easier for your
Speaker 5: body to shed, They just get rid of it.
Speaker 7: They just your body.
Speaker 5: You know, as you get to a point where your
Speaker 5: body needs more of the the mass that you have,
Speaker 5: it becomes a little bit more challenging to reduce that weight.
Speaker 7: And I want to address this just briefly.
Speaker 5: One thing that we do that a lot of clinics
Speaker 5: that are out there offering these products don't offer is
Speaker 5: guidance by our medical doctor and our medical team ye
Speaker 5: an MD and a.
Speaker 1: Patient coordinat And I deal with my doc over there
Speaker 1: is hung right right, And I love the guy.
Speaker 7: He's our weight loss and weight management special.
Speaker 4: He's on my I mean literally, I hate to say it,
Speaker 4: but I'm sure it's just not me. He's on my
Speaker 4: beck and call.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He gives you his personal number and you can reach
Speaker 5: out to him any time. But the point I was
Speaker 5: trying to get to is many patients do get to
Speaker 5: a point where they reach a plateau, and one of
Speaker 5: the options that we have for them is to increase
Speaker 5: the dosage if they're tolerating it.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, and that will.
Speaker 4: I didn't do that. I didn't increase it. It just
Speaker 4: seemed like after a couple of weeks and it just
Speaker 4: started working again.
Speaker 7: Well, and that's great.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't eating anymore.
Speaker 4: That's the part that's kind of mind blowing to me,
Speaker 4: because it's not like all of a sudden I was
Speaker 4: starting to get hunger or you're thinking of food. Nothing
Speaker 4: changed there, just all of a sudden the weight loss
Speaker 4: didn't continue on the same path, right.
Speaker 5: And the point of ben Bam and the point I
Speaker 5: was trying to get to is that because you have
Speaker 5: that access to our medical staff, you can have this
Speaker 5: conversation with them and they can give you very great
Speaker 5: advice and details about what options have different options you have,
Speaker 5: and doing it in a safe way. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of clinics out there that you're almost self diagnosing,
Speaker 5: deciding how much you want to use without any guidance,
Speaker 5: and frankly, that's dangerous.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and you guys simply don't do that. So
Speaker 4: let me take this quick break. I want to come
Speaker 4: back and talk really do somewhat not of total deep dive.
Speaker 4: I don't want to lose half our audience. But there's
Speaker 4: a lot of people that suffer from neuropathy. There's absolutely
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. And this new treatment the results
Speaker 4: once again, I talk results.
Speaker 1: You're incredible, all right.
Speaker 4: I do have lines open. I'm not sure what happened
Speaker 4: to Linda there. Maybe I was talking too much. Three
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Speaker 1: Don't forget.
Speaker 4: You can check out Troubleshooter Network on YouTube and listen
Speaker 4: to us during the breaks. We were actually talking, uh,
Speaker 4: the doc and myself. We're talking about different therapies out
Speaker 4: there now and we're going to die back into that
Speaker 4: stem cell But three oh three seven one three a
Speaker 4: two five five I'd love to hear from you. Any questions,
Speaker 4: any problems, anybody you want to tell us about, any
Speaker 4: bad guys out there.
Speaker 1: I want to help.
Speaker 4: Three zero three seven one three eight two five five
Speaker 4: lines are open now.
Speaker 1: Doc, we were it was funny.
Speaker 4: It's funny how conversations kind of Uh, they're so fluid.
Speaker 1: We were talking about.
Speaker 4: Stem cell therapy and we were talking about neuropathy, and
Speaker 4: we're going to.
Speaker 1: Get back to that.
Speaker 4: But I asked you a question because we were talking
Speaker 4: about Elon Musk and Trump, and I said, I think
Speaker 4: Eline does some hallucinatives occasionally. And you said that you
Speaker 4: read that he was doing ketamine.
Speaker 5: Statement that I read that he had met a statement
Speaker 5: that that nobody really understood just how much ketamine he
Speaker 5: was using while he was working in the White House.
Speaker 4: Really, yes, And ketamine we were talking about is a
Speaker 4: veterinarian drug.
Speaker 7: It's a tranquilizer.
Speaker 1: It's a yeah.
Speaker 4: But don't they like give it to animals before they
Speaker 4: put them to sleep. That's what gets them to the
Speaker 4: point where they're at least comfortable. Then they hit him
Speaker 4: with the death or before surgery, yes, or before surgery. So,
Speaker 4: but the interesting part is you said, people actually go
Speaker 4: into some form of therapy.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, just ketmine.
Speaker 5: There's ketamine therapy that's out there. Now I'm not an
Speaker 5: expert on this at all. I just want to make
Speaker 5: that clear, but there are clinics that offer ketamine therapy.
Speaker 1: So you you would.
Speaker 4: Sit down in theory, I mean, like you said, you
Speaker 4: guys don't do this, but excuse me, and you sit
Speaker 4: there with what a shrink and the shrink actually shoots
Speaker 4: you up, and then you have a conversation. I mean,
Speaker 4: what from what you do know of it, what does
Speaker 4: that look like?
Speaker 5: From what I do know of that is there's a
Speaker 5: therapist involved in, probably somebody with a medical license, because
Speaker 5: it does need to be administered intravenously, and they get
Speaker 5: an intravenous drip of ketamine and then they go into
Speaker 5: you know, a hallucinatory or a you know, a status.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's benefits to that?
Speaker 5: From what I've seen, my personal thoughts are that I
Speaker 5: don't necessarily think so okay, I think that it's it's
Speaker 5: you know, it's quasi medicine. A lot of stuff that's
Speaker 5: it's quasi medicine.
Speaker 1: But it sounds like people that just want to get
Speaker 1: high to me. But I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't have PTSD, I don't suffer from different things
Speaker 4: that that might help. Because in our conversation, I said, well,
Speaker 4: in Denver, aren't mushrooms like they're doing therapies with mushrooms
Speaker 4: now we're microdosing. Well, you said there might be a
Speaker 4: benefit to that or some of the research you've read, Well, I.
Speaker 5: Have more experience speaking with patients who have undergone that
Speaker 5: type of therapy, and from what I've gathered. People do
Speaker 5: get a benefit, particularly when they're dealing with psychological trauma
Speaker 5: PTSD in particular.
Speaker 4: Just to help them talk about it better, or it
Speaker 4: helps them to actually understand the trauma better, therefore making
Speaker 4: their lives a little better.
Speaker 1: Understanding why they're not feeling good, I don't.
Speaker 5: Really know, but I would say that most likely what's
Speaker 5: occurring is that they're able to process and talk through
Speaker 5: the trauma in a way that resets their brain so
Speaker 5: that they're not experiencing the panic attacks and those other
Speaker 5: types of things that go along with PTSD.
Speaker 4: So years ago I was on I mean twenty five
Speaker 4: years ago, I was getting some anxiety and I was
Speaker 4: on what was that stuff called Suzanne Uzanna asked, And it.
Speaker 1: Was only for a couple months.
Speaker 4: And I talked to this one therapist, okay, and I said,
Speaker 4: what do you think about Xenix? I said, simply is that,
Speaker 4: I said, just give me your thoughts on it. And
Speaker 4: she says, I think he gives you more anxiety.
Speaker 1: I said, well, what does that mean?
Speaker 4: She goes, well, you have anxiety, you take it, the
Speaker 4: anxiety goes away, and you start building up a tolerance.
Speaker 4: So you got to take more of it when you
Speaker 4: take more of it, and as the medication is wearing off,
Speaker 4: you get more anxiety and more anxiety. So I just
Speaker 4: got off of it twenty five years ago after only
Speaker 4: two months on it, because I truly bought in to
Speaker 4: exactly what she was saying, like, if you're on something
Speaker 4: like that long term, and I you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: an MD, I'm not a doctor, but just from that
Speaker 4: personal experience, I do believe that, and I think some
Speaker 4: of that could be true with children. I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people put kids on drugs at a very
Speaker 4: young age now, and I don't think it's beneficial. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying it's beneficial to everybody, but I think it's
Speaker 4: kind of crazy to treat kids that have depression or
Speaker 4: something with drugs at an early age.
Speaker 5: I would agree with that, Yeah, I would agree wholeheartedly
Speaker 5: with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it does some doc, what do
Speaker 4: you think you've delivered a thousand babies?
Speaker 6: I think treating young children with drugs unless it's absolutely
Speaker 6: necessary is not a good idea. The brain is still forming. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and I'm not a child psychiatrist, but I don't think that.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying there's some that don't need it.
Speaker 6: No, but I think for the most part, unless it's
Speaker 6: absolutely necessary, you don't want to mess around the formation
Speaker 6: of your brain, which is going to last you for
Speaker 6: hopefully eighty five ninety years.
Speaker 4: I'd love to talk to someone that's been on some
Speaker 4: of the psychedelics that it's actually done good for PTSD.
Speaker 4: I mean real cases, because I just okay, I've done mushrooms,
Speaker 4: of course, recreationally years ago in my twenties. I ha looms.
Speaker 4: I tripped my ass off. I didn't learn anything, But
Speaker 4: I don't think it's the same.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's quick the same in how they're
Speaker 5: being used today in a therapeutic kind of.
Speaker 4: I can't even imagine sitting down and talking to a
Speaker 4: psychologist or a psychiatrist with the amount of mushrooms.
Speaker 1: I'd make no sense.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, there's probably amongst the listening audience today
Speaker 5: a couple of folks who have undergone this type of
Speaker 5: therapy because of how popular it's become. You know, hopefully
Speaker 5: one of them will call in and tell us about
Speaker 5: their experience.
Speaker 4: Now let's dive back into the neuropthy So you guys
Speaker 4: are now treating neuropthy basically on the foot and foot
Speaker 4: only at this time, No.
Speaker 5: That we actually treat it in the hands as well,
Speaker 5: and she crepends to be that that foot neuropathy seems
Speaker 5: to be a very common thing that people are getting,
Speaker 5: and people are desperate for relief of that because it,
Speaker 5: you know, you can't really walk very well.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm such a layman in this and I've understood
Speaker 4: a lot more of it just talking to you, because
Speaker 4: before I was going to be talking about this product,
Speaker 4: I had to understand it. And we sat down outside
Speaker 4: of the show and we talked for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the nerve damage, the nerve damage is generally caused and
Speaker 4: please correct me as I go.
Speaker 1: With diabetes, it's the sugar build up.
Speaker 5: Right, The majority of our patients that come to us
Speaker 5: for foot neuropathy issues are suffering foot and oropathy as
Speaker 5: a result of diabetes.
Speaker 4: Now, when we talk about suffering it because of diabetes,
Speaker 4: if the diabetes is managed properly and your sugar levels
Speaker 4: are not high at any given time, you're not going
Speaker 4: to have.
Speaker 1: That build up. If you add the perfect diet.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't even know what the perfect diet
Speaker 4: looks like, but let's just say, the perfect diet for
Speaker 4: someone that's diabetic, they're basically eating meat and cheese and
Speaker 4: the little vegetables whatever looks good for that, then they're
Speaker 4: not going to have the neuropathy issue.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Well, it's going to minimize those effects over the long term,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: These these but it's still going to build up.
Speaker 5: It sort of depends on what age you're going to
Speaker 5: experiencing these types of conditions.
Speaker 4: So the sugar builds up, and why does it go
Speaker 4: to the extremities. Why are those the first nerves generally
Speaker 4: to get damage because it's harder to flow the blood.
Speaker 7: That's part of it, you know.
Speaker 5: And also they're the smallest nerves because there are the
Speaker 5: nerve endings at the end of your fingers and at
Speaker 5: the end of your foot, and they're the furthest to
Speaker 5: reach with blood flow. So the sugar build up also
Speaker 5: builds up inside of the nerve and it starts to
Speaker 5: damage the nerve and that's when you start to get
Speaker 5: the tingling and numbness and pain, and that inflammation starts
Speaker 5: to damage the blood vessels around it.
Speaker 4: And when you say damage, literally damage shut them down,
Speaker 4: shut them down, so and then I can't understand what
Speaker 4: it feels like because I've never suffered it. I have
Speaker 4: typed a lot, and I might feel some carpal tunnels.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I assume it does.
Speaker 5: Not feel like that burning, tingling, numbness, sharp sharp, you know, lightning,
Speaker 5: like real pay what we call lancinating pain in medicine.
Speaker 1: Sharpenesses that come and go generally with people.
Speaker 7: Interm it can it progresses over time.
Speaker 5: So it might start off as with some tingling and
Speaker 5: numbness that comes and goes, and then turn into pain
Speaker 5: tingling and numbness that comes and goes, and then turn
Speaker 5: into numbness.
Speaker 1: Like when your footfalls asleep.
Speaker 4: Maybe correct, correct, but it's like constant even when you're walking.
Speaker 1: That could be happening.
Speaker 7: As it progresses.
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, and that's when we see our patients
Speaker 5: when walking is really becoming uncomfortable and becoming an issue.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 4: That's when it just flares up. Occasionally they're not calling anybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can manage it with other things, but you know,
Speaker 5: once it gets to the point where you're not able
Speaker 5: to walk around comfortably, there's very few long lasting solutions
Speaker 5: that are out there, other than the types of treatments
Speaker 5: that we offer with Richard.
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, I got to take this break. Three
Speaker 4: oh three seven one three eight two five five.
Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to you. Three oho three.
Speaker 4: Martino, three zero three Martino. We're going to dive back
Speaker 4: into that neuropathy, but I promise I'm always going to
Speaker 4: take the calls first when you've been ripped off or
Speaker 4: taken advantage of. But seriously, what we dive back into this,
Speaker 4: what these guys at Denver Region are doing, if you
Speaker 4: suffer suffer from their opathy, is going to be amazing.
Speaker 4: And wait till you hear the results on it. But hey,
Speaker 4: will what's going on with this engine?
Speaker 8: Man? Oh? I bought a bought an engine from a guy.
Speaker 8: It was a flathead for old Ford and uh howing
Speaker 8: up and I met with him. He had an engine
Speaker 8: there ready to go. So I just made deal with
Speaker 8: him there and bought it. But it was I wanted
Speaker 8: it a different color, So who's going to paint it?
Speaker 8: And then I was going to pick it up the
Speaker 8: next week?
Speaker 1: What was that in?
Speaker 4: What was that? What was that vehicle in? I'm sharing
Speaker 4: what was that engine going into? I'm just curious.
Speaker 8: It's for a forty one Ford pickup.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's pretty cool man. Have you been rebuilding the
Speaker 4: whole thing and the engine's the last part? Or tell
Speaker 4: me about the vehicle.
Speaker 8: Well, it was my STEP's father's truck and he wanted
Speaker 8: to he wanted to get it running again with the
Speaker 8: motor and it was locked up.
Speaker 2: So why did they get why did they stop?
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I know they're sought after, but why did they quit
Speaker 4: making the flathead? Did it just not work? I thought
Speaker 4: they quit making it like in the fifties, but they
Speaker 4: had like a twenty year or thirty year run on it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they had a good run, but you know it's
Speaker 8: just junk.
Speaker 1: Or they just came up with better technology.
Speaker 8: Better technology, more power.
Speaker 1: Got it. So you bought this from an individual?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well it was a shop, Go cat Speech shop.
Speaker 1: Is that in Denver? Where is it?
Speaker 8: That's an anglewood?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go Cats speed Shop.
Speaker 4: So when you bought it, what was the condition represented as.
Speaker 8: It was on the engine stand ready to go? It
Speaker 8: was just the wrong color.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so it's the wrong color then what and
Speaker 4: forgive my ignorance here, but can't you just spray paint it?
Speaker 10: Or no?
Speaker 8: Well that was the plan?
Speaker 1: Okay, So what happened been, Oh, well.
Speaker 8: I got every produce in the book. He was to
Speaker 8: paint it, and then this happened. That happened, And.
Speaker 1: Did you pay for it?
Speaker 8: To me? One day? I paid for it. I won't
Speaker 8: know if he'd build if I'd be okay if he
Speaker 8: sold it to somebody else and built me a better one.
Speaker 8: And I wasn't in a hurry at the time. I thought,
Speaker 8: well for the same price, but how much was Yeah,
Speaker 8: seventy five hundred bucks.
Speaker 4: So you walked into Gokat's speech shop and you gave
Speaker 4: them basically seventy five hundred for a particular engine they
Speaker 4: had in stock. And then you didn't like the color
Speaker 4: of it, so he was going to spray paint it.
Speaker 4: Meantime someone else wanted to buy it. He calls you up,
Speaker 4: You agree to that, and that engine's gone. Now how
Speaker 4: long has it been? How long have you been waiting
Speaker 4: for the second one?
Speaker 8: I think this started in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Oh, get out of here.
Speaker 4: You're telling me you paid in seventy five hundred dollars
Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen and you still don't have an engine.
Speaker 8: Don't have an engine. I've gotten case.
Speaker 4: Will Will there's no exaggeration here. Seriously, in two thy eighteen,
Speaker 4: when did you agree that he could sell that other
Speaker 4: one and he was going to build you a better one?
Speaker 1: What year was that, ar, I'm.
Speaker 11: Sorry, same year.
Speaker 8: It was a couple of weeks after so.
Speaker 4: In twenty eighteen. So what do they say right now?
Speaker 4: If I call them up right now and say, where
Speaker 4: the hell's Will's engine he bought in twenty eighteen for
Speaker 4: seventy five hundred dollars that you haven't delivered, what would
Speaker 4: they possibly say?
Speaker 12: Hey?
Speaker 8: Anything he could think of. I've got every excuse from
Speaker 8: the book machine shops or back to parts around, backed up,
Speaker 8: backed up.
Speaker 1: It's been eight years.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been a long time.
Speaker 4: Hold on a second, this is nuts. This is absolutely wild.
Speaker 1: Hold on.
Speaker 4: I thought I would going to be able to get
Speaker 4: through the day without having a conniption. But I'm having
Speaker 4: a hard time believing what I'm hearing from Will. He
Speaker 4: said in twoenty eighteen, he gives his company Go Cat
Speaker 4: Speed Shop gocatspeedshop dot com. Actually, so Go Cat Speed
Speaker 4: Shop takes seventy five hundred bucks. The engine, the flathead
Speaker 4: was not the color he wanted. So the guy was
Speaker 4: just gonna spray paint it. That's not a big deal.
Speaker 4: And in the introm, the guy calls up and says, hey,
Speaker 4: I got another buyer from this. How about if I
Speaker 4: sell this one, then I don't have to paint it
Speaker 4: to this other guy, and I'll build you one that's
Speaker 4: even better. And then, all of a sudden, and I
Speaker 4: jokingly say, all of a sudden, all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: eight years later, this guy still doesn't have an engine.
Speaker 4: So will when I call up during the break and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have Kelly call up, He's simply gonna make excuses.
Speaker 1: What do you want at this point? Do you want
Speaker 1: your money back?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 8: Well, anything would be ideal.
Speaker 1: I mean, is there.
Speaker 4: Anything I'm missing that he's going to bring up? In
Speaker 4: other words, is he going to say, oh, well I
Speaker 4: offered him this, this and this, but he didn't want it.
Speaker 8: No, I've asked for my money back. I've asked for,
Speaker 8: you know, my my engine to be built. Of course,
Speaker 8: I asked him to just return because I took after
Speaker 8: this all happened, I ended up with some extra block,
Speaker 8: but I took him three engine blocks just to help
Speaker 8: him out. Here's three blocks if you need.
Speaker 4: Them, And he still wouldn't start with yours and rebuild them.
Speaker 8: No, he keeps telling me. Well, he kept telling me.
Speaker 8: You know, it's waiting on the machine shop. I need heads.
Speaker 8: The heads are hard to find, this and that, and it.
Speaker 6: Will When was the last time I spoke to him?
Speaker 6: And what was the last conversation? What excuse did he
Speaker 6: give you the very last time you spoke to him?
Speaker 8: Let me look at my text messages here and I'll
Speaker 8: tell you, because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, roughly how long ago? Well, if you're looking at
Speaker 4: tax tiles, frankly.
Speaker 8: I think it was in January.
Speaker 1: So this year.
Speaker 4: And what did he say? And what did you say?
Speaker 4: I'm curious.
Speaker 8: He said he'd get me a flathead by mark. They'll
Speaker 8: get or get you paid back by June. Had a
Speaker 8: re few Month's been sixty times in a row. It's
Speaker 8: December is getting caught up.
Speaker 4: So it's always something like that. He's always sick or
Speaker 4: there's always a problem, I mean.
Speaker 1: Always, yeah, yeah, always always. This is crazy.
Speaker 4: How does someone justify in their own mind keeping seventy
Speaker 4: five hundred dollars in doing absolutely nothing, not a damn
Speaker 4: thing for eight years. I just can't even wrap my
Speaker 4: head around this one. Eight years, this guy's gotta be okay.
Speaker 4: In my opinion at this point, he's a thief. That's
Speaker 4: just my opinion. Kelly, I want to try to get
Speaker 4: this guy on the air. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 4: what else to say right now. I mean, I'm really
Speaker 4: hoping there is another side to this story, because this
Speaker 4: is crazy. Eight years later, eight years I can't.
Speaker 1: Even wrap my head around it. Eight years. I mean
Speaker 1: that's like before and after COVID.
Speaker 13: How I know I'm jumping the gun a little bit.
Speaker 13: How does small claims work after that? I mean, eight
Speaker 13: years later, you don't have your money, you don't have.
Speaker 4: Guys still the guy's still promising him as in change.
Speaker 13: That would be like no limitations of time then on that.
Speaker 1: Right now, this is the kind of one.
Speaker 4: What we really have to do is get all the
Speaker 4: listeners involved today on this one. But Kelly's gonna try
Speaker 4: to get this guy on. Kelly, pick up talk to Will.
Speaker 4: Get the guy's phone number. Apparently they're texting, so he's
Speaker 4: got a cell phone.
Speaker 1: For this guy.
Speaker 4: Get the owner's name, get the cell phone number, try
Speaker 4: to get this guy on. There's got to be another
Speaker 4: side to this story. Three zero three seven one three
Speaker 4: eight two five five. And if there's not, I mean,
Speaker 4: I just want to light the guy up. I mean,
Speaker 4: I can't imagine under any circumstance, eight years, seventy five
Speaker 4: hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely mind blowing.
Speaker 4: I'm really I'm hoping, I'm praying that there is another side.
Speaker 1: To this story.
Speaker 4: There has to be. There has to be. We've got
Speaker 4: that and a lot more coming up. We've got three
Speaker 4: hours to go three oh three seven one three eight
Speaker 4: two five five. You can email us at help at
Speaker 4: troubleshooter dot com. We're gonna try to get that owner
Speaker 4: on during the break. I honestly hope he comes on.
Speaker 4: He said he'd get this guy paid back if it
Speaker 4: wasn't done by March, he'd haven't paid back in June,
Speaker 4: and just more and more and more excuses.
Speaker 1: It looks like.
Speaker 4: Kelly might be talking to him right now, so I'm
Speaker 4: really curious where that's gonna go. We're also gonna dive
Speaker 4: into the neuropathy and how to treat it and how
Speaker 4: to get rid of that pain and for people that
Speaker 4: suffer from it. It sounds like the most horrible thing
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Speaker 4: what we can tell you about this new therapy from
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Speaker 4: and Kelly answering your calls three zero three seven to one,
Speaker 4: three eight two five five. Kelly Will called in. I'm
Speaker 4: going to recap real quick. I saw you on the
Speaker 4: phone over there.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Will called in and said, Hey, I went down to.
Speaker 4: Go Cat Speed Shop and their website, by the way,
Speaker 4: is go Cat Go Cat speedshop dot com.
Speaker 1: And I gave the.
Speaker 4: Guy seventy five hundred bucks for an engine, a flathead engine,
Speaker 4: and it was the wrong color.
Speaker 1: So he was going to paint it for me.
Speaker 4: Before he got it finished painting it, or before he started,
Speaker 4: he called me up and basically said, hey, I can
Speaker 4: sell this to somebody else and rebuild you an even
Speaker 4: better one. And Will the caller actually agreed to that.
Speaker 4: And here's the kicker. That was in two thousand and eighteen.
Speaker 4: Think about that. That was in twenty eighteen. Here we
Speaker 4: are seven eight years later and this guy still doesn't
Speaker 4: have an engine. The last time we'll talk to him
Speaker 4: or communicated was in January, and the guy said, hey,
Speaker 4: I'll have it to you by March or I'll give
Speaker 4: you your money in June.
Speaker 1: Is that all correct?
Speaker 14: Will?
Speaker 8: Yep?
Speaker 1: So, Kelly, you called over? Who did you call? Who
Speaker 1: is the owner? Eric Brown? Eric Brown? Did Eric Brown
Speaker 1: pick up the phone?
Speaker 15: He did not, and unfortunately it did go to voicemail. However,
Speaker 15: his mailbox is full and is not accepting messages.
Speaker 1: Is that just his cell phone number?
Speaker 8: Will?
Speaker 1: Is there another number?
Speaker 8: He might answer, That's the only number that I've found
Speaker 8: for him?
Speaker 4: Is it that seven two zero two eight four seventeen
Speaker 4: ninety Yep, that's it. That's the only one we have.
Speaker 4: That's the one on his website too. You know this
Speaker 4: is crazy. So you can't even leave a message, right, Kelly?
Speaker 11: I could not.
Speaker 1: His mailbox is full. So mailbox is full. Listen this.
Speaker 4: People think, oh, Mark, this might be a little premature.
Speaker 4: Why are you giving this guy free advertising?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give Gokat speech shop free advertising.
Speaker 1: Because this was in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4: This guy gave him seventy five hundred dollars seventy five
Speaker 4: hundred dollars according to Will, and here we are seven
Speaker 4: plus years later, and you have nothing right Will, nothing
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 8: Bad? Taste in my mouth.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, a.
Speaker 4: Bad taste in your mouth and your bank account seventy
Speaker 4: five hundred bucks later.
Speaker 1: Hey, well, have you gone down there in person?
Speaker 8: You know I've been up there a couple times, but
Speaker 8: not in a few years.
Speaker 4: What's the shop look like? You just said, a hell hole?
Speaker 4: Is it a nice looking place? Do you think this
Speaker 4: guy's got a pot to piss on? You think he's
Speaker 4: got any assets.
Speaker 8: Got anything in the shop like a Oh, it's got
Speaker 8: a warehouse type setup over himself.
Speaker 1: What's the guy's name again? Give me the guy's name, Eric?
Speaker 8: What Brown? Eric?
Speaker 1: And he's the owner as far as you know of
Speaker 1: Go Cat Speedshop.
Speaker 6: Why don't you go down and tell him that you
Speaker 6: talk to us and that if he doesn't answer, he's
Speaker 6: gonna get a lot of negative publicity and maybe put
Speaker 6: on the sleep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's getting it right now, because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: Sleaves brigade'll be next step. And if you're new to
Speaker 4: the show, go visit Sleas Brigade. I'm going to tell
Speaker 4: you something about it. It is one of the most
Speaker 4: powerful tools I've ever seen out there.
Speaker 1: You know, there was one guy that.
Speaker 4: If you even even came close to googling his name
Speaker 4: or his roofing company, Sleaves Brigade, was the first thing
Speaker 4: that would pop up, and sure enough, it basically ruined.
Speaker 1: The guy's life. And this guy, Will, I don't care.
Speaker 4: I have never heard of so many excuses, will you said?
Speaker 4: This guy has had. What's the weirdest excuse he's given you?
Speaker 4: I get I'm sick, and I'm sure during COVID it
Speaker 4: was probably everything was he was sick. But what else
Speaker 4: has he told you over the last seven years?
Speaker 8: His mom was sick, and the whole parts shops not
Speaker 8: being able to get good box and had finished his
Speaker 8: buddy's dragster and.
Speaker 1: Hey, give me a favorite Kelly.
Speaker 4: Well, she's on the line there, hold line, Will I
Speaker 4: just want to check in on something before I have
Speaker 4: our listeners help you and myself out trying to get
Speaker 4: in touch with Eric Brown, the apparent owner of Gokat
Speaker 4: speed Shop.
Speaker 1: And I'm taking.
Speaker 4: This and everything I say at this point I want
Speaker 4: you to understand is my opinion. This is definitely my opinion.
Speaker 4: Why do I say that because I'm not positive this
Speaker 4: guy's a scumbag, sucking, fleabag piece of crap. I'm not
Speaker 4: positive about that. That is what I call an opinion.
Speaker 4: Seventy five hundred dollars over a seven plus year period
Speaker 4: issolutely ridiculous, and I can't imagine what excuse he possibly
Speaker 4: has now it was supposed to be done March of
Speaker 4: this year was the last promised date, or he was
Speaker 4: going to pay the money back. Where's the guy's money at?
Speaker 4: You can't even leave him a message. We did try
Speaker 4: to reach out to Eric Brown at Go Cat Speed shop.
Speaker 4: This is absolutely crazy and will you must have the
Speaker 4: patience of a saint, because I could have never dealt
Speaker 4: with this for seven years. I mean I would probably
Speaker 4: be camped out at his shop. In fact, I'm wondering
Speaker 4: if we get Deputy Dmitri or Bo or someone to
Speaker 4: go down and talk to him at his shop and
Speaker 4: figure out what's really going on down there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I live a few hours away, so it's not like.
Speaker 1: Where do you live? What do you mean you live
Speaker 1: a few hours away?
Speaker 8: I live out in Brush, northeast Coste.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it. You truly do live a few
Speaker 1: hours away.
Speaker 4: You know what, maybe we were by this place and
Speaker 4: see what's going on down there. I mean that might
Speaker 4: be the way to go. That might seriously be the
Speaker 4: way to go. What is that phone number, Kelly?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 15: Seven two zero two eight four one seven nine.
Speaker 1: Zero seven two zero two eight four.
Speaker 15: One seven nine zero.
Speaker 4: Okay, folks, listen Eric Brown. He's the apparent owner of
Speaker 4: Goat Catz Speed Shop seven two zero two eight four
Speaker 4: seventeen ninety.
Speaker 8: Listen.
Speaker 4: I do this for a couple reasons. Number one, we
Speaker 4: can't even leave him a message. I don't even know
Speaker 4: if the guy will answer the phone. I don't know
Speaker 4: if he'll talk with us. He's been putting will off
Speaker 4: for over seven years. That's why I'm doing it. Don't
Speaker 4: be crude. Don't say anything that you wouldn't say to
Speaker 4: your mother. How's that be nice about it?
Speaker 1: Say?
Speaker 4: When are you going to give will Is money? Or
Speaker 4: when are you going to give him this engine? What
Speaker 4: is going on with it? I would assume I would
Speaker 4: guess that this guy doesn't have the money to give him,
Speaker 4: or he possibly would have given it back in the
Speaker 4: last seven years. For God's sake, three oh three seven
Speaker 4: one three A two five five. I want to check
Speaker 4: one more thing on this, So Kelly, get either Jeff
Speaker 4: vic or get Kevin on with shared an auto tech.
Speaker 4: I want to ask them a question about a flat
Speaker 4: head engine.
Speaker 1: Three oh three seven one three A two five five.
Speaker 4: I've got a couple of lines open three zero three Martino,
Speaker 4: hold on, I gave the wrong number out. Listen, Eric Brown,
Speaker 4: go cat speed shop and Suzanne found something very interesting
Speaker 4: and hold on one second, because I do have one
Speaker 4: of her experts on. Kevin Cokin shared an auto tech. Kevin,
Speaker 4: I just want to ask you something. These flatthead engines
Speaker 4: by Ford. I mean when you send them out to
Speaker 4: a machine shop. I mean, these aren't brain surgery. You
Speaker 4: can go buy one and get it done right.
Speaker 14: Well, yeah, and there's really not much in the head,
Speaker 14: you know what I mean a flathead the valves and
Speaker 14: everything in the block.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess what I'm asking is is how hard
Speaker 4: is it to get one rebuilt if I wanted to
Speaker 4: go out and find one. Is it hard to find
Speaker 4: one and get it rebuilt right now? Or are they
Speaker 4: like impossible to find? I don't understand.
Speaker 14: Well, they're all over they're a bud again being rebuilt.
Speaker 14: They're basically just the cover. There's nothing to rebuild.
Speaker 4: Wow, why did they go away? By the way, just
Speaker 4: to old technology?
Speaker 9: Right old technology.
Speaker 14: Yeah. I mean, but like I said, the block holds
Speaker 14: the valves and the piston.
Speaker 1: That's incredible.
Speaker 14: Flat head itself just holds the spark plugs and covers
Speaker 14: the cylinders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking at a picture. They're kind of strange.
Speaker 4: So if I said, hey, Kevin, go find me one,
Speaker 4: you probably call me back in an hour and have one.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 4: Sure, see this is remarked. I just wanted to make
Speaker 4: sure Kevin I appreciate that. By the way, Kevin Cokin
Speaker 4: shared an auto tech you know, he works on our cars.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy.
Speaker 4: He can do anything you need done, from oil changes
Speaker 4: to engine replacements, electrical system problems, alignments, cooling system flushes,
Speaker 4: airic conditioning services.
Speaker 1: I think you get the idea. They'll save you a
Speaker 1: ton of money.
Speaker 4: Oh and they've got a great warranty as well, three year,
Speaker 4: thirty six thousand miles. Now, will, I'm going to bring
Speaker 4: you back up. I'm going to put this guy on
Speaker 4: the sleeves Brigade. I'm going to get with Martino after
Speaker 4: the show, and I'm going to tell you why even
Speaker 4: though we haven't heard back from this guy yet. Eric Brown, Suzanne,
Speaker 4: tell me what you found yeah.
Speaker 13: So, in searching our call archives, I realize, thanks to Shannon,
Speaker 13: thank you, that we'd gotten a call on Eric Brown
Speaker 13: at go Cat Speech Shop back last April of twenty
Speaker 13: twenty four from a gentleman named Joe from southern California.
Speaker 13: He'd been paying Eric since twenty twenty one, got him
Speaker 13: paid in full January of twenty twenty three. That's eleven thousand,
Speaker 13: five hundred and receive nothing. So fast forward to twenty
Speaker 13: twenty four. Oh, he demanded a refund and Joe did.
Speaker 13: The caller did get back one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: He got back one thousand out of how much.
Speaker 13: It looks like out of eleven thousand, five hundred from
Speaker 13: Tommy's notes.
Speaker 4: He got one thousand dollars back and paid the guy
Speaker 4: eleven thousand, and he got nothing according to the notes.
Speaker 1: Do we have that guy's number?
Speaker 13: If Kelly has notes from April of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 13: we might.
Speaker 1: I doubt it. Kelly. You wouldn't have that, would you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't keep notes that long.
Speaker 15: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I wish I could.
Speaker 4: Will there's another guy. I mean, he got a thousand back.
Speaker 4: I'm going to get with tom and I think we
Speaker 4: got to put this guy in the Sleeves Brigade. But honestly,
Speaker 4: will make sure we have all your information, and Susan
Speaker 4: make sure we update this guy.
Speaker 1: Will.
Speaker 4: I want you to hold on, man, because hell, he's
Speaker 4: gonna get all your info. I think we're gonna head
Speaker 4: down there. I might do a live in front of
Speaker 4: his shop. I have fun, I haven't done that for
Speaker 4: a while. I might go down there and do a
Speaker 4: live in front of his shop and see what's going
Speaker 4: on with this guy.
Speaker 1: This is just it's just not right. So we'll hold on. Then.
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get him up on Sleeves Brigade.
Speaker 4: But listeners, I would love your help here. I think
Speaker 4: I gave the number out wrong. Eric Brown, Go Cat's
Speaker 4: Speed Shop seven to zero two eight four seventeen ninety.
Speaker 1: Please be nice to him. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 4: Be nice and say, hey, this guy gave you seventy
Speaker 4: five hundred.
Speaker 1: Dollars in twenty eighteen. Where's his money back?
Speaker 4: You said you were gonna have his engine done by
Speaker 4: March after seven years?
Speaker 1: What is going on? Ask him?
Speaker 4: Say, Eric Brown, what is going on at Go Cat's
Speaker 4: Speed Shop? We just heard you about on the radio.
Speaker 4: They tried to reach out to you, but they can't
Speaker 4: because your voicemails full. And we heard you had other
Speaker 4: people like who was it Bob Joe Joe in California
Speaker 4: that you took eleven thousand.
Speaker 1: From and only refunded them one thousand.
Speaker 4: It's absolutely insane, Eric Brown, go catspeedshop dot com.
Speaker 1: They're right here somewhere in Inglewood.
Speaker 4: And I'm going to figure out something and get down
Speaker 4: there and try to meet this Eric Brown seven to
Speaker 4: zero two eight four seventeen ninety seven to zero. Be
Speaker 4: nice call him up if well, we already know you
Speaker 4: can't leave a message, but hopefully if his phone's ringing
Speaker 4: a lot, he'll answer it. And I do this as
Speaker 4: a service to Eric two. And you know what, I
Speaker 4: would love to hear his side of the story. But
Speaker 4: in my opinion, if everything Will is saying correct, or
Speaker 4: even most of it, for Christ's sake, my god, even
Speaker 4: if most of it seventy five hundred dollars and he
Speaker 4: hasn't gotten anything in over seven years, Eric, what can
Speaker 4: you possibly say about that? And he's got text? In fact,
Speaker 4: one more question for Will. Prior to that last text
Speaker 4: that you wrote, what was the one before that, not
Speaker 4: the one this year in January? But what was the
Speaker 4: one before that?
Speaker 8: Will we pulled up and I'll tell you, and I
Speaker 8: can share all with you if you want.
Speaker 1: I do. I do want you to share them. I
Speaker 1: do want you to share them.
Speaker 4: Kelly will give you an email to send him to
Speaker 4: and I would like you to share them.
Speaker 1: Do they go back to that twenty eighteen?
Speaker 8: I got a different phone, so I think I go
Speaker 8: back as far as twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: Okay, twenty nineteen. I mean, this is so absurd. I
Speaker 4: can't believe we're thinking.
Speaker 1: Of these dates. I can't believe.
Speaker 4: This guy and you heard that other one we had.
Speaker 4: But what was the very not the very last one
Speaker 4: this year right before that?
Speaker 1: When was it.
Speaker 8: That one was back in November? November fourth?
Speaker 4: And what was that conversation like November fourth with Eric
Speaker 4: Brown of Go Cat Speed Shop.
Speaker 8: Basically, he's broke, can't afford anything.
Speaker 4: So he's broken, can't afford anything. Well, don't say basically
Speaker 4: what does it?
Speaker 1: Literally say, let me just treat.
Speaker 8: It to you. I asked him about my engine. He said,
Speaker 8: now it's more complicated. It'll get you an engine before
Speaker 8: the end of the year. Hopefully by Thanksgiving close to
Speaker 8: being on the street. Because of its economy, I'm now
Speaker 8: in a Peter and Paul situation. I can't even pay
Speaker 8: my bills for this my next I have a balance
Speaker 8: coming up on another block, plus some other projects soon,
Speaker 8: but right now it's really really bad. The pistons on
Speaker 8: that block are very domed. Every set of heads. I've
Speaker 8: tried hits to find someone with a special cutter or
Speaker 8: just assemble the next block for you, which is what
Speaker 8: I'll probably have to do. I don't want to be
Speaker 8: anybody's enemy. I honestly want get that cloud cleaned up,
Speaker 8: and you know showing it.
Speaker 4: That's fine, that's set. You don't have to read it.
Speaker 4: It's just one thing after another. I love how he
Speaker 4: actually admits he's robbing Peter to pay Paul. You know what,
Speaker 4: there is a Contractor's Trust Act, and that would extend
Speaker 4: in my opinion. In my opinion, it's not a legal
Speaker 4: opinion to a shop into your position. You put seventy
Speaker 4: five hundred dollars down that is for your job and
Speaker 4: your job only, And he is admitting right there he
Speaker 4: is using your money or has used your money for
Speaker 4: someone else's thing, and you're not allowed to do that.
Speaker 4: I think we also need to reach out to the DA.
Speaker 4: I want to get Dmitri on this. Dmitri, if you're listening,
Speaker 4: I want you to reach out to the district attorney
Speaker 4: wherever this Goat Cat Speed Shop is and I'm going
Speaker 4: to have all the text. But this guy just acknowledged.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, this guy just acknowledge that he's a thief.
Speaker 4: That's right. When you stee from somebody to pay somebody else,
Speaker 4: you are a thief. In my opinion, Eric Brown, I
Speaker 4: believe you're a thief. That's my opinion of Goat Cat
Speaker 4: Speed Shop seven to zero two eight four seventeen ninety.
Speaker 1: Please be nice when you reach out to him. I
Speaker 1: am not kidding.
Speaker 4: This is absolutely ridiculous and it's not the first time
Speaker 4: we have had this same guy with same issues.
Speaker 1: Joseph, you're up after this.
Speaker 4: I'm going to take my blood pressure meds.
Speaker 1: I'm Jr.
Speaker 4: From the Road has a comment on Cat Speed Shop.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Hey, Mark, if you.
Speaker 16: Recall that phone call in November or whatever of last year,
Speaker 16: the guy that called you said that this he met
Speaker 16: this guy at all the Hot Rods shows. So as
Speaker 16: far as asked this. This guy shows up with his
Speaker 16: own hot rods, his flat head BH built out, so
Speaker 16: he does have assets.
Speaker 10: But that that guy said.
Speaker 16: He's like a fifty four South Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna head over there. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: shoot over there during this show so we can do
Speaker 4: something live. I don't know what day yet. I gotta
Speaker 4: kind of get that worked out.
Speaker 16: But he's so he's a flathead guru.
Speaker 17: You know, he's a yeah, I got you, flat head.
Speaker 16: But the thing is he meets all his victims and
Speaker 16: I'm calling him victims. Yeah, he meets him all after
Speaker 16: car shows, and the car shows are starting to come up.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting though, met him.
Speaker 8: At the Good Guys.
Speaker 4: Just that text that he wrote to will Uh saying
Speaker 4: I'm robing Peter to pay Paul. I mean literally, he
Speaker 4: called himself a thief, like he legitimately called himself a thief.
Speaker 1: And I agree with the thief. Hey Jr. I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 4: Three oh three seven one three A two five five.
Speaker 4: We got one line open. Hey, Joseph, Uh, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 8: Joseph? Okay?
Speaker 11: Mark? So I know yesterday Tom had a guy on
Speaker 11: talking about reverse mortgages. But my question was, is there
Speaker 11: such a thing for a reverse mortgage on a farm?
Speaker 1: On a farm?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, that's I don't know. That's a very interesting question.
Speaker 1: Hold on se so God has go ahead?
Speaker 11: It hang on a second mark. So so the.
Speaker 1: House is on the farm.
Speaker 11: And it's considered a but when I paid the taxes,
Speaker 11: it's it's the whole thing. So it's not it's not segregated,
Speaker 11: it's the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's That's what I was gonna kind of ask that.
Speaker 4: But I'm just I'm not going to hesitate. I'm going
Speaker 4: to bring up John Clace.
Speaker 1: Hey, John, I loved the question you guys got.
Speaker 4: I never thought about it, nor did I ever think
Speaker 4: a farm. I guess if it's agricultural it could be different.
Speaker 4: But if it's just a big farm with a house,
Speaker 4: but it's all the same, can you get a reverse
Speaker 4: mortgage on that?
Speaker 1: What do you know about that? John?
Speaker 12: All the big thing is going to be is that
Speaker 12: a producing farm is an income producing property. Yeah, that's
Speaker 12: that's the big thing there. Something is income producing properties.
Speaker 10: No, you're not going to be able to get a
Speaker 10: reverse mortgage on that.
Speaker 12: If it's a farm and it's not not producing income,
Speaker 12: and they're like properties around it. Yes, you could, but
Speaker 12: when it's an income producing they treat that as a
Speaker 12: commercial property.
Speaker 4: Hey, let me ask you something, John, how about the
Speaker 4: all in one.
Speaker 8: Same thing.
Speaker 10: Now, whenever you get a whenever you.
Speaker 12: Get an income producing prop, it's commercial.
Speaker 1: It goes into the commercial side of things.
Speaker 4: So what are his Hey Joseph, why are you trying
Speaker 4: to get cash out a better interest rate? What are
Speaker 4: you trying to do with it? What's your circumstance?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 11: What, No, it's it's paid for. And I'm sixty seven
Speaker 11: and just kind of want to And I don't have
Speaker 11: any siblings, I mean not siblings. I'm sorry. I don't
Speaker 11: have any kids, theirs kids. I don't have any kids,
Speaker 11: just me and my wife. So I was just I
Speaker 11: had just thought, well, instead of you know, telling.
Speaker 4: That Joseph, A couple a couple questions the income production
Speaker 4: how much does it produce in a year out of curiosity.
Speaker 11: It depends on the year.
Speaker 10: Every year is different, but.
Speaker 11: One hundred thousand, give or take.
Speaker 4: Well, with that kind of income coming in, why do
Speaker 4: you need the equity from the reverse? What I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to kind of understand that.
Speaker 11: I don't need it. I don't I don't need it.
Speaker 11: But I was just thing that maybe we could do
Speaker 11: some more, you know, enjoy life a little better.
Speaker 1: I got it, just a little more income.
Speaker 11: You know that hundred thousand mark is not profit, that's grows.
Speaker 4: Oh well, well that's what I was asking. How much
Speaker 4: profit a profit?
Speaker 11: Ten?
Speaker 4: Okay, Now let me ask you this, Greg, I don't
Speaker 4: know how much of a headache it is to create
Speaker 4: that ten thousand dollars a year in profit. But if
Speaker 4: it's quite a bit of a headache, there's a lot
Speaker 4: other ways to create ten thousand dollars a year. And John,
Speaker 4: the reason I'm asking them these questions, if it wasn't
Speaker 4: income producing, would they be able to do a reverse
Speaker 4: mortgage on it?
Speaker 1: Or you still would have to run some numbers or what?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 12: I still run to some numbers, like how big? How
Speaker 12: many acres are we talking?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How big is it described the property? Joseph?
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a few hundred acres.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's big. What's it worth?
Speaker 8: Ten million?
Speaker 1: Ten million?
Speaker 4: How does this guy tap in to that kind of
Speaker 4: equity so him and his wife can go enjoy their sixties, John,
Speaker 4: think outside the box?
Speaker 1: How do you with you? And I assume you don't
Speaker 1: want to sell it? Right?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 11: No, I don't want to sell it.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 1: Would you care about shutting down the farm part of it?
Speaker 11: Not really?
Speaker 17: I mean, yeah, well the other thing too.
Speaker 11: Is there an interest rate on a reverse mortgage?
Speaker 4: Well of course there is, but I mean I don't
Speaker 4: even want to get into that because right now there's no.
Speaker 4: It just doesn't even matter. So John, I'm going to
Speaker 4: go back and pick your brain and anybody out there listening.
Speaker 4: This guy's got something worth ten million bucks? Where is the.
Speaker 1: Property Kenwell County? She's got how much? Would he say?
Speaker 1: To underacres?
Speaker 12: So you have all this acre to start parceling it off,
Speaker 12: probably get some large chunks of some don't you think
Speaker 12: you might know a little bit more about that than
Speaker 12: I do?
Speaker 8: Mark?
Speaker 4: But well, yeah, that's what I'm saying, But not at
Speaker 4: LEAs operating it is a farm. I don't know how
Speaker 4: much of it can you subdivide? And actually if you,
Speaker 4: if you wanted to, could you actually subdivide and build
Speaker 4: a neighborhood? Would they be able to switch it from
Speaker 4: agricultural to where you could put up a home, for example,
Speaker 4: or even commercial property with that kind of space. I
Speaker 4: don't know if you've looked into any of those ideas.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's you know, it's it's a process, right of course,
Speaker 11: and it's a big process.
Speaker 1: Well, it definitely is.
Speaker 8: What about water?
Speaker 12: You gotta water rights on that property? I mean, that's
Speaker 12: another way to generate some income, you know, gab it?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 11: True?
Speaker 1: Do you have water rights?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 17: I mean there's a lot, a.
Speaker 12: Lot of a lot of production builders.
Speaker 14: They would do all the work for you.
Speaker 12: Man, maybe you'd put under contract and they would do
Speaker 12: all the zoning all that for you and they you know, you.
Speaker 17: Get paid on when they performed.
Speaker 10: But there's there's a lot a lot of that would
Speaker 10: do that, now I get it.
Speaker 11: I mean there's you know, and I've been approached by
Speaker 11: by by several that I've just turned down.
Speaker 1: What's your hesitation on going a route like that.
Speaker 11: Joseph, Well, I just don't want to because then I
Speaker 11: you know, I mean I've had the farm for years
Speaker 11: and years and years and I don't I just don't
Speaker 11: want to. I don't want to sell it.
Speaker 4: But what are you going to do when you guys pass?
Speaker 4: I mean what what's your plan for it?
Speaker 11: Well, you know, if you're on my it depends on
Speaker 11: if you're good on my good side or not.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, man, here's what I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 4: from you. Like if you could somehow subdivide it and
Speaker 4: other people are going to take care of all this,
Speaker 4: but you keep twenty acres and the house you want
Speaker 4: to live in. I mean, do you is that something
Speaker 4: you would want to think about?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I have, yep, yep, we have.
Speaker 17: We've also thought about moving.
Speaker 11: You know, there's the state and seemed the law. So
Speaker 11: it's out about that.
Speaker 7: Team.
Speaker 4: Well, let's do this. I'm gonna put you on hold. Man, John,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep you up. But uh, Joseph, I want
Speaker 4: you to give your info to Kelly. I want to
Speaker 4: talk to Martino about this. The guy's only developed how
Speaker 4: many neighborhoods he develops, Susanna, I mean, hell you you oh.
Speaker 13: Got dozens and dozens Mark over the I.
Speaker 4: Mean dozens and dozens and they don't have to be
Speaker 4: something like Highland's Ranch.
Speaker 1: I mean you can do.
Speaker 4: Thirty acre parcels where all the homes are nice. Joseph,
Speaker 4: there's so many different things. But I think what we
Speaker 4: do because Tom has literally done this. Uh he's done
Speaker 4: it in Florida, He's done he's done it everywhere. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's going to know, uh, you know, the ins and
Speaker 4: outs of this, and let's just uh, let's spark up
Speaker 4: that conversation. So Kelly, do me a favor and get
Speaker 4: his information if Joseph wants to share it, and maybe
Speaker 4: we reach out and see if we can't figure something
Speaker 4: out for him. And if anybody out there knows John
Speaker 4: real quick at commercial Lending Prospect, what do you think
Speaker 4: is there a commercial product that you know of where
Speaker 4: he could tap.
Speaker 1: Into some of that money, some of that equity. He's
Speaker 1: got ten.
Speaker 4: Million dollars, he doesn't know what penny. There's got to
Speaker 4: be a way to get something, sure it.
Speaker 10: Is, but his issue now you know, he doesn't really
Speaker 10: he just kind of.
Speaker 12: Wants the money wants. Realistically, I think this is right
Speaker 12: up Tom's alley, and you got if he parcels it off,
Speaker 12: wants some money, that's the best. Sure commercial lender will
Speaker 12: probably do him something, but then you know, how are
Speaker 12: they going to get paid back? You know that that
Speaker 12: type of thing is because he's really no income coming
Speaker 12: in so he's almost has to tell the some of
Speaker 12: the property and not just do you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 4: It's so interesting, though, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: You take a big you take a big chunk of.
Speaker 4: It, whatever, one hundred acres, and maybe make a deal
Speaker 4: just on that and have a developer come in and
Speaker 4: basically that's gonna be your money, that's gonna be your
Speaker 4: retirement money. And you still own the house, and you
Speaker 4: still own the farm. But once again with no errors,
Speaker 4: I'm not even sure what he wants to do there.
Speaker 1: But John Clays.
Speaker 4: In fact, John's actually working for my son right now,
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, in Nebraska.
Speaker 4: These guys at CMG, they are the lender, there's no middleman.
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Speaker 4: what was funny is you weren't licensed in Nebraska, But
Speaker 4: when I reached out to you for the loan from
Speaker 4: my son, you got yourself licensed, like in a matter
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Speaker 4: of course in Nebraska.
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Speaker 4: Dmitri's got an update on Go Cat speed Shop. Dmitri,
Speaker 4: that might be the fastest update I've ever heard of.
Speaker 4: We'll take that after this, and then Greg is the
Speaker 4: owner of Diamond G Concrete, and we've got to follow
Speaker 4: up from yesterday.
Speaker 1: Everybody, hold on, I been going through.
Speaker 4: These texts with this speed shop and I'm going to
Speaker 4: read some of them. Plus we found a lot more
Speaker 4: information out about these guys. Listen after the break just
Speaker 4: because of the time we had to call yesterday, Bob
Speaker 4: had a problem with a concrete company and the owner
Speaker 4: of the company called in with his side of the story,
Speaker 4: and I can't wait to get to that. We love
Speaker 4: when business owners call in. We have found out over
Speaker 4: the years there's always two sides. But Greg Martinez and
Speaker 4: the caller's name was Bob. You guys, we only got
Speaker 4: two minutes now, so we're gonna I'm gonna bring you
Speaker 4: both up right after the news break, so you guys
Speaker 4: please hold on in the intrum. Deputy Dmitri update on
Speaker 4: Cat's Speed Shop. Wow, man, you dug into that quick.
Speaker 4: What's shake and bacon?
Speaker 14: Hey, Mark, I.
Speaker 18: Was driving to my next business meeting and I heard
Speaker 18: you mentioned my name, so I called Gokat I got
Speaker 18: I just recently got off the phone with Eric is the.
Speaker 11: Owner of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric Brown go Cat's Speed Shop.
Speaker 10: Yeah. So hey, here's what we've decided.
Speaker 18: Basically, the proposal I have for him is, Hey, I'm
Speaker 18: not going to point a finger at you. I just
Speaker 18: want to.
Speaker 10: Broker a mutual away for you and.
Speaker 18: Will so that he can either get his engine or
Speaker 18: get his money back, and you guys will be done
Speaker 18: with each other. So Eric is in the middle of
Speaker 18: all kinds of problems right now.
Speaker 10: And I won't get into them right now.
Speaker 18: But what we agree to is going to happen is this.
Speaker 18: He's going to think about how to take care of
Speaker 18: the customer, and he's gonna.
Speaker 10: Call me either today or tomorrow morning before the show starts.
Speaker 18: At ten with his proposal.
Speaker 4: Hey, Dmitri, I love it, but I don't know how
Speaker 4: much of the story you heard. But in October he
Speaker 4: was going to pay the guy back by December. In
Speaker 4: January he was going to have the engine done by March,
Speaker 4: or he was going to give the guy his money back. Then,
Speaker 4: let's not forget this started in two thousand eighteen, and
Speaker 4: I am now staring at a chain of promises just
Speaker 4: like he just told you, over a seven year period.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I heard the whole story, and I agree with
Speaker 18: everything you just said. And I did not rub his
Speaker 18: nose in any of it.
Speaker 10: Okay, I said, Look, this is gonna be kind of
Speaker 10: a fresh start to solving this problem. Let's just pretend.
Speaker 1: So you think you're gonna hear from them by tomorrow.
Speaker 10: There's a good chance why not.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, no, no, I'm saying that's what he
Speaker 1: told you. Though he said tomorrow, yes, today, he said.
Speaker 12: It might be today, it.
Speaker 8: Might be tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Hold on, man, I gotta go to this break Tomitrie,
Speaker 4: good job getting in touch with the guy.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he comes through.
Speaker 4: Creg and Bob, hold tight, you're up next on the
Speaker 4: Troubleshooter Show.
Speaker 10: You don't have.
Speaker 3: Help come, this is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine. Hey,
Speaker 3: welcome to.
Speaker 1: The show, the only show of its kind.
Speaker 4: We're here to solve problems, answer questions, take complaints, work
Speaker 4: out disputes, recoup money, go after the bad guys, and
Speaker 4: I'm probably forgetting a lot of other things right now.
Speaker 4: We got lines full, but I'll always let you know
Speaker 4: when the line's open. Three oh three seven one three
Speaker 4: eight two five five. I have gotten three text for
Speaker 4: doctor Joel, and I promise I'm going.
Speaker 1: To get to those.
Speaker 4: They all have to do with neuropathy and their new
Speaker 4: treatment down at Denver Region. So we're going to be
Speaker 4: diving into this. But right now, I've got Greg Martinez on.
Speaker 4: We had a call yesterday from Bob. I'm gonna bring
Speaker 4: Bob up real quick. Bob, just to recap what happened
Speaker 4: last year, What actually happened with this concrete job.
Speaker 10: It was this last month. Basically the whole thing started
Speaker 10: off great. Greg is a great concrete guy. He's very knowledgeable.
Speaker 10: He knows this stuff. That's why I hired him, Okay,
Speaker 10: and I think he realizes that. And really the basis
Speaker 10: of your show is, I think ultimately to work out dispute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is so, But Bob, what what actually happened?
Speaker 4: Did you give him money down? If so, how much
Speaker 4: did you give down?
Speaker 10: We greg required half down, which was I paid him
Speaker 10: six thousand dollars and two three thousand dollars increment payments.
Speaker 1: And then what was the scope of the work.
Speaker 10: Scope of the work was the prep work, all the
Speaker 10: prep work required for some concrete plat work, and there
Speaker 10: was a footer in a stemwall that.
Speaker 1: He was going to do, got it. So what ultimately
Speaker 1: is the issue right now?
Speaker 10: Well, the issue is that we we got into a dispute.
Speaker 10: The project was put on hold.
Speaker 1: Was that you're doing or his doing it was?
Speaker 10: I think it was a combination of both.
Speaker 1: Fair Enough, I think it was probably.
Speaker 10: A misunderstanding on his part and my inability to communicate
Speaker 10: fully what I was trying to tell him.
Speaker 1: Okay, well tell me what you were trying to tell him.
Speaker 10: Well, there was there was a lot of things that
Speaker 10: I felt that needed to be done prior to doing
Speaker 10: the final form work, and pouring one of them was
Speaker 10: a big issue that and it's been uncovered there's a
Speaker 10: lot of extensive route tree roots underneath where the new
Speaker 10: concrete's going to go, so I kind of wanted to
Speaker 10: put the skins on things to get that taken care of.
Speaker 10: And I also mentioned that there was I was going
Speaker 10: to be about twelve hundred dollars short if he had
Speaker 10: gotten a job done in one week like was on
Speaker 10: a schedule. I was going to be about twelve hundred
Speaker 10: dollars short. So I said, well, maybe we should push
Speaker 10: that out to next month. And the twenty fourth of
Speaker 10: June kind of popped up because of the funds that
Speaker 10: I can get because I'm trying to do this out
Speaker 10: of pocket.
Speaker 4: Hey Bob, what do you I still really want to
Speaker 4: get to this part. So as of this very second,
Speaker 4: what is your beef with Greg? What is your beef
Speaker 4: with Diamond? G?
Speaker 10: Well, that he accepted the six thousand and that he
Speaker 10: wasn't able to stay on the job long enough to
Speaker 10: it to at least complete as much work as he
Speaker 10: had been paid to do, and then we would have
Speaker 10: worked at stopped at that point and then worked out,
Speaker 10: you know, completed the ballots of the work, which I
Speaker 10: would have paid him in full once it was completed.
Speaker 1: So what do you want from him now?
Speaker 10: I would like to work this dispute out and kind
Speaker 10: of backpedal, and you pick up where we left off
Speaker 10: with a good relationship and try to get this job
Speaker 10: done and everybody will get paid. I'll be a satisfied customer.
Speaker 10: Everybody's going to be happy.
Speaker 4: Well okay, well then hold on here. So I've got
Speaker 4: of course, ask Greg Martinez. First of all, he's the
Speaker 4: owner of Diamond G Concrete. We appreciate you calling and
Speaker 4: returning our call.
Speaker 1: Greg. So you kind of heard where Bob's at? Where
Speaker 1: are you at in this?
Speaker 17: Is it possible that I can.
Speaker 1: Read what really went down? Yeah? Of course you can go.
Speaker 1: Please wow.
Speaker 19: So Diamond G Concrete, Greg Martinez. On Saturday morning, May
Speaker 19: thirty first, when the employee, Greg was getting ready to
Speaker 19: work that he Bob the homeowner stated to him that
Speaker 19: he wasn't going to be able to pay the remaining
Speaker 19: balance after the job was done until June twenty fourth
Speaker 19: of twenty twenty five, which is approximately three weeks down
Speaker 19: the road. We were redone way before that date on
Speaker 19: the contract at states to be played at a completion
Speaker 19: of the job.
Speaker 1: All right, hold on.
Speaker 10: Second, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, Greg, I get it, I get it. Hey, Bob,
Speaker 4: is that true? You basically told him you weren't going
Speaker 4: to be able to pay it till June.
Speaker 10: And like I just stated, there was only twelve hundred
Speaker 10: dollars I wouldn't be able to pay I had I
Speaker 10: had four thousand dollars already in another account that I
Speaker 10: was able to transfer. Then that same the May thirty first,
Speaker 10: my wife went to our bank and got a credit
Speaker 10: line cash a vamp.
Speaker 1: Hey, Bob, that part, Bob, None, None of that matters.
Speaker 4: All I'm asking you, though, is did you tell their
Speaker 4: employee you weren't going to be able to pay it
Speaker 4: till till June.
Speaker 1: That's all, It's all I'm asking Yes, but he.
Speaker 10: Did not let me finish my talking. And as to
Speaker 10: why I was saying.
Speaker 4: That, well, he's basically saying that's not what we agreed
Speaker 4: to in the contract.
Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from.
Speaker 10: I'll say, okay, then the contract, Okay, the contract was
Speaker 10: for five day completion. We had far exceeded that five days.
Speaker 10: We were into our second week.
Speaker 4: But but Bob, I asked you, when I asked you
Speaker 4: about the delays, and look, I'm going to talk to
Speaker 4: Greg again, absolutely with the same questions. But when I
Speaker 4: talked to I said, who delayed it? You are Greg?
Speaker 4: And you said, well, kind of both of you, So
Speaker 4: why don't you focus on that for a sec?
Speaker 10: Okay? On my part, I delayed. I delayed it and
Speaker 10: said that I couldn't pay in full, but I could
Speaker 10: pay a portion of it and we could maybe just
Speaker 10: complete that amount of work which I had already paid in.
Speaker 4: How much needs to be left on this job, Bob?
Speaker 4: Right now, Like, let's talk dollars. Let's say Greg did
Speaker 4: the entire job. How much how many dollars do you
Speaker 4: think are left to be done?
Speaker 1: If the job was done?
Speaker 10: The contract was for right about eleven thousand and six forty,
Speaker 10: I believe, Yeah, I was just going ahead. I went
Speaker 10: ahead and routed it up to twelve thousand. Yeah, since
Speaker 10: he's already gotten his down payment upfront cash advance of
Speaker 10: six thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep going there.
Speaker 10: It was all six thousand leftover, I told him. I
Speaker 10: tried to explain to him when I said I couldn't
Speaker 10: pay him completely, but I did have four thousand, so
Speaker 10: if we could at least do complete six thousand plus
Speaker 10: an additional four thousand of work, which is ten thousand, dollars.
Speaker 10: Then what once we reached that completion point of ten
Speaker 10: grand worth of work completed, I would only need that
Speaker 10: little bit extra time to get the ballop and he
Speaker 10: could finish.
Speaker 4: Okay, But Bob, what I'm asking you is right now,
Speaker 4: tell me if I got this straight, six thousand dollars
Speaker 4: of work has been done?
Speaker 1: If they knock out that, okay, No, not yet?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 1: Okay? How much of work is that done? And I think, well,
Speaker 1: in your opinion, in your opinion, how much.
Speaker 10: I would lead it? I would hope that Greg could
Speaker 10: itemize that he has some label.
Speaker 1: He doesn't.
Speaker 4: However, you guys wrote up to contract is how you
Speaker 4: wrote it up. I don't know if he itemizes it,
Speaker 4: nor do I know if it matters. Here's what I'm
Speaker 4: trying to figure out. How much work do you thanks done?
Speaker 4: Is fifty percent of the scope of the job done?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, forty percent? Are we close to fifty?
Speaker 10: I think it's kind of more like anywhere between ten
Speaker 10: to fifteen percent.
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, I put him on hold, Greg, I
Speaker 4: just want to stick to this part right now. How
Speaker 4: much of that job has been done? He's saying ten
Speaker 4: to fifteen percent?
Speaker 10: All it needs to be done.
Speaker 19: Is forum said it in poor concrete but certain. Let
Speaker 19: me tell you one thing real quick. This is the
Speaker 19: part that's This is the part where you're not going
Speaker 19: to understand.
Speaker 17: Okay, now we're on that part. Okay, now let me.
Speaker 19: Just go on real quick.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 17: Yes, So stated to Bob that I don't.
Speaker 19: Know if this was possible, that I would have to
Speaker 19: call it office and find out.
Speaker 17: I call him.
Speaker 19: Stated to Bob that this would not be possible, but
Speaker 19: we are not going to have no I would stated
Speaker 19: that this will not be possible, that we are going
Speaker 19: to have to revise a contract to come.
Speaker 11: To new agreement. Brand.
Speaker 17: All of a sudden, Bob's bounce.
Speaker 2: We do not know her name.
Speaker 19: Her name is Donna stormed out of the garage door
Speaker 19: and started throwing racial slurs at my employee, stating, you
Speaker 19: are an illegal. You won't be wrong here. I quote
Speaker 19: she said, I am gonna blow you up and your
Speaker 19: name on the internet.
Speaker 17: You are a fake the whole owner.
Speaker 19: Bob then flinched like he was gonna hit my employee.
Speaker 19: My employee had the duck and move out of the
Speaker 19: way because he thought Bob was gonna hit him. Bob
Speaker 19: came fair like he was gonna hit him, and then stopped. Siultaneously,
Speaker 19: Bob's wife is yelling and screaming and spitting on my employee.
Speaker 19: She's spit on my employee twice, ranting and screaming, winding
Speaker 19: her finger two inches away from my employee's face.
Speaker 10: Hey, Greg, employee is skating. Hey Greg, employ is stated, Yes, sir, Greg.
Speaker 1: I get you man. I follow you a hundred percent. There.
Speaker 1: I would like to help me again. What led up
Speaker 1: to this moment?
Speaker 4: Was it the fact that you guys wanted to do
Speaker 4: another contract because he couldn't pay according to that contract,
Speaker 4: the original contract terms.
Speaker 19: Well, leading up to that morning I got there, everything
Speaker 19: is fine, he goes, it looks great. So what I
Speaker 19: have done is I've got all the degraded ready for concrete.
Speaker 19: I've got dap yard front yard. I tore all the
Speaker 19: old concrete out, took it to the dump on the
Speaker 19: roll off that's already gone off the job.
Speaker 17: Everything is builders great.
Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry, Greg, I think you missed. I think
Speaker 4: you misunderstood my question. When the woman came out screaming
Speaker 4: racial slurs and spitting and everything you just said, what
Speaker 4: led up to that point is what I'm trying to
Speaker 4: figure out.
Speaker 19: Because she was mad that Bob had She came out
Speaker 19: and said, why did you tell him that?
Speaker 17: Why did so tell him?
Speaker 12: What?
Speaker 1: Dog?
Speaker 19: You know that he couldn't pay me till the twenty
Speaker 19: fourth She came out and told Bob, why did you
Speaker 19: tal entim that? And Bob didn't say anything. And then
Speaker 19: she looked at me and she said, you ain't done
Speaker 19: anything on this job. You haven't done anything. You are
Speaker 19: any illegal, You don't belong here. And I said, whoa man?
Speaker 19: I said, look at I stayed in numerous times. So
Speaker 19: I'm trying to pick my tools up and get out
Speaker 19: of there at this point because it's really getting out
Speaker 19: of hand.
Speaker 10: It's you know, that's you.
Speaker 17: That was all right, very unportantly, very unprofessional.
Speaker 19: So I'm right at this point, I'm kind of fearing
Speaker 19: for you know, maybe this guy's going to get I
Speaker 19: don't know what's going on right hold.
Speaker 4: On the same time that he Greg Greg because because
Speaker 4: of the format of the show, I have to take
Speaker 4: this break. I want to continue it right on the
Speaker 4: other side. I'm asking you to please hold, and I
Speaker 4: also Bob, you hold too.
Speaker 1: I want to know.
Speaker 4: If this is true because if someone I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's your wife or girlfriend, whoever, but if there
Speaker 4: was someone else involved literally screaming at these people, spitting
Speaker 4: at these people, well that changes this a lot. I
Speaker 4: really just want to get to the bottom of this one. Hey, Bob,
Speaker 4: Greg was saying, when this all went down, there was
Speaker 4: some woman there.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Who she was, but racial slurs, all kinds of problems,
Speaker 4: spitting at him. Is there any truth to that stuff?
Speaker 4: I sincerely doubt this guy would make every bit of
Speaker 4: it up. And I'm not saying that was you.
Speaker 10: But what happened, okay number one, This was all captured
Speaker 10: on our ring camera. Okay, okay, Greg sent me. Greg
Speaker 10: sent me the same accusations via email about a day later,
Speaker 10: and so I kind of knew I was going to
Speaker 10: have to address them at some point. We had the
Speaker 10: al Paso County Sheriff come out and review all the video.
Speaker 10: Officer Gate, a sergeant with the al Pasco County Sheriff
Speaker 10: reviewed all of it, and he turned to me and said,
Speaker 10: I see a nothing burger here. There's nothing there.
Speaker 4: Well, did she at least get mad during the situation?
Speaker 4: I understand basically what you're saying is he's exaggerating the
Speaker 4: hell out of it. But what did take place on
Speaker 4: that ring if I looked at.
Speaker 10: It categorically, let me go through all of them. Okay,
Speaker 10: the racial slurs. She was upset the week he wanted
Speaker 10: six thousand dollars in cash. We wrote him a check
Speaker 10: for six thousand dollars. He said he couldn't cast it
Speaker 10: because it wasn't enough time to get it cleared to
Speaker 10: his bank to start the work, which they started the same.
Speaker 4: That's fine, So he wanted cash. So where does he
Speaker 4: go with the racial slur?
Speaker 10: Okay, because my wife was upset, she goes, I'm submitting
Speaker 10: a ten ninety nine form to you to make sure
Speaker 10: you pay your taxes to the IRS, because if not,
Speaker 10: you're illegal.
Speaker 1: And so that's what was said on the ring.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he was. He was about she was about thirty
Speaker 10: five forty feet.
Speaker 1: Away when she said, okay, what else, and.
Speaker 10: He turned around and said that you're racist, you're racist. Okay, no,
Speaker 10: and then immediately she fired back, no, I met the irs.
Speaker 10: You're illegal if you don't pay taxes on the cash
Speaker 10: we gave you.
Speaker 11: So that was that was a.
Speaker 10: Misunderstanding on his part. Number one. Okay, it's clearly on.
Speaker 1: Keep going number two, number two, number two.
Speaker 10: The spitting. My wife is at medical issues in which
Speaker 10: she gets upset and she yells, she does, she has
Speaker 10: her mouth, she does spit, okay, And she wasn't like
Speaker 10: literally spitting on him just to spit. They were they
Speaker 10: were they were arguing back and forth, and yes, she
Speaker 10: may be spit on.
Speaker 4: Hey, Bob, can I see I want to see this video?
Speaker 4: Can you send us over a link to it?
Speaker 10: Yeah, hold on, I haven't. I haven't posted it. I've
Speaker 10: just got it. I've just got it saved my computer. Okay.
Speaker 10: The final one about me Greggs thinking I was going
Speaker 10: to hit him, No, when my wife and him were arguing,
Speaker 10: I stepped in between him.
Speaker 4: Okay, but it's all It's all on this video. That's
Speaker 4: all I care about right now.
Speaker 10: And he didn't duck. He just back a couple of
Speaker 10: feet away. And I was just saying, come on, guys,
Speaker 10: but settle down. I was trying to I was trying
Speaker 10: to calm the situation.
Speaker 1: And this is all evident on the video. Right Yeah. Okay, now, Bob, Bob, let.
Speaker 4: Me let's bob, let's move off that for a second
Speaker 4: do you have if Greg would come out and finish
Speaker 4: the job, pour it. It sounds like he did all
Speaker 4: the dirt work, and he did all the forming and
Speaker 4: basically all we're missing.
Speaker 10: Now. No, no, there's no forming done.
Speaker 8: There's no.
Speaker 10: Road base, there's no rebar, and there's no concrete.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me hold on. Let me just backtrack where
Speaker 1: I was going.
Speaker 4: If he was willing to come out and get the
Speaker 4: job finished, when it's finished, will you be able to
Speaker 4: pay him at that time one percent whatever the contract is?
Speaker 10: Absolutely I would be happy.
Speaker 1: Hold on, Okay, Greg, listen.
Speaker 4: I don't know what went down in that video, but
Speaker 4: here's the good news.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to see it.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a misunderstanding or if your
Speaker 4: version of it is much more correct. Until I see
Speaker 4: the video, I just can't even tell you. But for
Speaker 4: right now, for right now, let's just say it was
Speaker 4: a misunderstanding. If this guy is going to pay you
Speaker 4: every cent of whatever that contract is, whatever the work is,
Speaker 4: are you willing to go back and finish the job,
Speaker 4: bury the hatchet and you guys, basically, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: not saying you got to be great friends. Or buddies,
Speaker 4: but get the job done both in a professional manner.
Speaker 4: You get paid, he's happy with it, and move on.
Speaker 4: Is that a possibility.
Speaker 19: So after this whole incident and everything went down, I
Speaker 19: still reached out to him and said, we will continue
Speaker 19: the job on the twenty fourth of June. When you study,
Speaker 19: you would have the money. So that's already been established.
Speaker 19: I don't know where he's jumping.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, Greg, so you would.
Speaker 19: On the On the email it states yes, we are
Speaker 19: going back on the twenty fourth when you have the money,
Speaker 19: like you stated, and finished the job.
Speaker 17: That's what That's where I have not once said.
Speaker 4: Okay, now Greg, Greg, that's great, that's great, and you're
Speaker 4: willing to do that on the twenty fourth, get the
Speaker 4: job done and then he'll pay you all the money.
Speaker 17: That's what we haven't.
Speaker 19: That's what I have In the email, I stated the
Speaker 19: twenty fourth to June, when you have the money, absolutely
Speaker 19: all right?
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hey, Bob, are you good with that?
Speaker 10: Absolutely all right?
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm going to bring you both up now. So
Speaker 4: we've got a deal here. It looks like on the
Speaker 4: twenty fourth of this month, Greg, you're going to go out.
Speaker 4: You're going to get the job finished. How many days
Speaker 4: does it roughly take? I realize whether happens, things happen.
Speaker 4: When do you plan on being done with you start?
Speaker 19: Well, it's pretty much the rug brush gun was tearing
Speaker 19: out the concrete.
Speaker 10: Getting the RT.
Speaker 19: And you know, sending and all that stuff.
Speaker 20: I would say there's three days maybe, Yes.
Speaker 4: That's so within a week, within a week, three four days,
Speaker 4: you're going to be done. And Bob, you have all
Speaker 4: the money to pay him the second he's done.
Speaker 10: Yes, I do. And as far as the timeline, I
Speaker 10: would rather that Greg did the job that I know
Speaker 10: he is he's capable of doing. I don't care if
Speaker 10: it takes a week or two weeks because I know
Speaker 10: he's going to do a great job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've said that, and Greg, Greg, he has spoken
Speaker 4: very highly of the work you've done, no doubt about that. Yes, sir,
Speaker 4: So let's do this, guys. I think we're all on
Speaker 4: the same page. Greg, you're going to be out there
Speaker 4: on the twenty fourth. Bob, you got the money, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, we're not missing anything here.
Speaker 10: Not missing anything. It's all there.
Speaker 1: Greg. You good?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I am.
Speaker 17: I have it on his email I did this one
Speaker 17: day after this incident.
Speaker 19: I love you conclusion then listen, so I'm on board.
Speaker 1: I love it. So here's I put Bob on the hold. Greg.
Speaker 1: First of all, I appreciate.
Speaker 4: You coming on. When businesses come on, it tells me
Speaker 4: a lot about them, and it's not every day I
Speaker 4: get a complaint from somebody like Bob. Where in the
Speaker 4: same breath he says, what great work you did. I
Speaker 4: still am going to look at that video. I am
Speaker 4: going to assume at this point that there was some
Speaker 4: miscommunication and everybody lost their mind. To be quite frank,
Speaker 4: that's what I think happened. But if I look at
Speaker 4: it and and it was, like, you know, really over
Speaker 4: the top, I will do a follow up on the
Speaker 4: air about that as well. So I just want you
Speaker 4: to understand that. But I really don't think that that's
Speaker 4: going to be the case. I think it's going to
Speaker 4: be somewhere in between.
Speaker 17: I don't mean to put you off, but I kind
Speaker 17: of do. Because my demeanor was professional.
Speaker 19: I stayed it many a times.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 17: All I want to do is being do a new contract.
Speaker 17: He caught it.
Speaker 19: My favorite key is exaggerating his point. What that's the
Speaker 19: key right there. That video will tell the story. You'll
Speaker 19: see how Bile and Boulder his wife.
Speaker 4: I will Greg Greg Greg, I promise, I promise. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna look at that and Kelly make sure we've got
Speaker 4: Greg's information. But all I really care about right now
Speaker 4: is we're all on track for the twenty fourth that
Speaker 4: goes for you, Bob, that goes for Greg. Let's get
Speaker 4: this done. Let's get it in the past. Everybody will
Speaker 4: be happy. The work should be of good quality. According
Speaker 4: to Bob and Greg, it's gonna be good. And maybe Bob,
Speaker 4: you kind of stay away while they're finishing up and
Speaker 4: just get through there. Don't have your wife there. Let's
Speaker 4: not escalate this for God's sake any more than it
Speaker 4: needs to be. And Bob, last thing is what am
Speaker 4: I going to be able to see that video.
Speaker 10: I'll get that sent in and just kind of in
Speaker 10: final closing, Like I said.
Speaker 4: I mean, Bob, it sounds like everything's going to go
Speaker 4: good from here, so watch your final closing.
Speaker 10: Well, okay, well, there is some I need to sell
Speaker 10: work with them because the root system that was buried
Speaker 10: and compacted under where all the new concrete's going to go,
Speaker 10: that had to get dug out. So I've been with
Speaker 10: a lot of time and effort and money expenditure. I
Speaker 10: have been correcting that situation myself.
Speaker 4: Is it done and will it be done? Will they
Speaker 4: be ready to go on the twenty fourth?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 10: Yes, I've got final tracks.
Speaker 4: Do you undo anything that is going to cost Greg
Speaker 4: more money?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 10: The only thing that and if it does, him and
Speaker 10: I can can calmly, professionally discuss that and I will
Speaker 10: compensate him for whatever he feels.
Speaker 4: Hold on, it's a monkey wrench, Greg, something with the root?
Speaker 4: Are you going to be able to deal with that?
Speaker 17: That's yet, sir Brook, I don't.
Speaker 19: I'm not gonna go any product right now.
Speaker 11: I'm not.
Speaker 19: I'm not gonna speak on that any product because I
Speaker 19: don't want to jeopardize anything I have to say. So
Speaker 19: now he's bringing up other issues that that I'm gonna
Speaker 19: have to address. I'm gonna have to address that. Okay,
Speaker 19: I'm not addressing it over because.
Speaker 1: I got it. When can you go look at it myself?
Speaker 17: I'm not gonna put myself in a corner again.
Speaker 19: You know he's gonna do.
Speaker 4: Hey, Greg, I appreciate it, Greg, Greg, I appreciate what
Speaker 4: you're saying. You probably need to look at it, or
Speaker 4: at least look at a picture of it and figure
Speaker 4: out if it's gonna cost you any more money. And
Speaker 4: if so, Bob said he will pay you for that.
Speaker 6: Sure.
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's why I'm saying that we'll figure that one out.
Speaker 19: I'm not gonna do business because I don't know exactly,
Speaker 19: you know what the scope of the work that's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: I understand, So do me a favor. Make sure Kelly
Speaker 4: we have both their information. You guys need to get together,
Speaker 4: get it out on this. And then Bob, I do
Speaker 4: want to see that video. Man, make sure you get
Speaker 4: me that video today. I'm sure it's somewhere in between,
Speaker 4: but I want to look at it. Everybody, hold tight, John,
Speaker 4: you're up next. Well, Bob doesn't complicate that situation. Whatever's
Speaker 4: fair for them to do. The rest of the work
Speaker 4: really needs to be done. And I will report back
Speaker 4: to people on that video. And if I don't get it,
Speaker 4: I'll report back. But I think I'm going to see it.
Speaker 4: It might be a little more aggressive. I'm dying to
Speaker 4: know now, I mean really, I'm dying to know where
Speaker 4: that's going to pop up. I really do want to know. Hey, John,
Speaker 4: real quick, what's your question on probate?
Speaker 20: So basically, I don't know anything about probate. I have
Speaker 20: a bunch of questions, and I don't know if you
Speaker 20: can give me a referral for an attorney.
Speaker 4: I can definitely give you a referral, but because this
Speaker 4: is a radio show, we'll do that. But what are
Speaker 4: you your questions? So other people can get educated as well?
Speaker 4: Did someone just pass away?
Speaker 8: Correct?
Speaker 1: And who passed away?
Speaker 20: Yes, it's my brother.
Speaker 1: And are you the soul heir?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 20: No, that's why it's complicated because there's other people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who else is involved? Was there a will or
Speaker 1: a trust?
Speaker 20: So this's a will, but it's questionable.
Speaker 21: And then this, uh uh, there's two daughters and this
Speaker 21: the wife and the wife doesn't really know how to
Speaker 21: handle all this stuff.
Speaker 4: And why are you? Why are you involved? She reached
Speaker 4: out to you for help?
Speaker 20: Correct?
Speaker 1: And what does the estate have in it?
Speaker 4: I mean what value if the if there's a house,
Speaker 4: For example, I assume the wife is going to stay
Speaker 4: in the house with the kids. Do they own a house?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 20: The so the the will, there's a couple of kids,
Speaker 20: his kids.
Speaker 4: How old are the children? Oh, okay, they're adult children.
Speaker 4: I understand now.
Speaker 1: And then does the wife live into the house and
Speaker 1: does she own it?
Speaker 8: She's a co owner?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: And what does the will say, for example, just about
Speaker 4: the house?
Speaker 20: Well, no, basically it's all for the kids.
Speaker 1: Well that's fine. So what is the wife going to do?
Speaker 20: Well as as saying no, she has to open probate, correct.
Speaker 1: Yes she does. But what ye yes?
Speaker 4: Well yeah, if there's property, yes, But let me ask
Speaker 4: you this. Here's what I'm trying to figure out. She's
Speaker 4: not when you say everything's for the kids, she's not
Speaker 4: going to leave the house?
Speaker 1: Is she?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 20: But they have multiple like.
Speaker 4: Rentals, Okay, there's multiple properties involved. Besides it's multiple properties.
Speaker 4: How about other assets? Is there a lot of cash? Life, insurance, retirement? Okay,
Speaker 4: hold on, let's do this. Here's what I want to do.
Speaker 4: I'm going to put you on hold. I want to
Speaker 4: get Dan McKenzie on. I think we set it up
Speaker 4: for after the next hour. Kelly, I think we really
Speaker 4: do that. So I mean, just get them holding. It's
Speaker 4: no big deal. He's just gonna have to hold a
Speaker 4: few minutes. And then I want to talk to doctor
Speaker 4: Joel about well, I got two texts here. Mark keeps saying,
Speaker 4: I love when they call me out. Mark keeps saying
Speaker 4: he's going to go back to the neuropathy treatment.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: Well, Doc, I'm just gonna let you explain it right now.
Speaker 4: I mean the treatment is stem cells along with PRP.
Speaker 4: Give us the rundown. What is this treatment? Then we're
Speaker 4: going to get into the effectiveness it has had on
Speaker 4: your patients.
Speaker 5: So what we do when we treat foot in neuropathy
Speaker 5: is first we do a great of how bad the
Speaker 5: neuropathy is, and then we map out on the foot
Speaker 5: where we're gonna inject. And so then we inject into
Speaker 5: six areas on the bottom of the foot, coming in
Speaker 5: from the side, so we get the entire foot. We
Speaker 5: inject the entire foot, and what we inject it with
Speaker 5: is a combination of stem cells of a product called
Speaker 5: MVT or microvascular tissue. And this is a new product.
Speaker 5: This is just approved by the FDA about two years
Speaker 5: ago and it's used in wound healing. And what it
Speaker 5: does is it promotes new blood vessel growth.
Speaker 4: And what do the stem cells do if that does
Speaker 4: new muscle growth?
Speaker 1: The stem cells.
Speaker 4: You inject into someone's foot that has pain due to neuropathy,
Speaker 4: what do the stem cells actually do?
Speaker 5: So the stem cells will regenerate the nerve, they'll regenerate
Speaker 5: the damaged nerve region, rebuild it, rebuild the nerve cells.
Speaker 5: But it also needs blood flow in order to function properly,
Speaker 5: and that's part of the cause of the neuropathy. So
Speaker 5: the MVT, the microvascular tissue that we also include in
Speaker 5: our mix of regenerative metaine and products, is what promotes
Speaker 5: new blood blood vessel growth. So the blood vessels will
Speaker 5: grow new pathways to the damaged nerve, and the stem
Speaker 5: cells will repair the nerve.
Speaker 4: So the stem cells are almost like, well, of course
Speaker 4: you're better than PRP, but they're going to go to
Speaker 4: where they need to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, is that pretty much it?
Speaker 4: Or the stem cells go wherever you inject them, and
Speaker 4: it really doesn't matter if it's a nerve or a muscle.
Speaker 4: I mean, don't stem cells kind of regenerate everything.
Speaker 5: Well, what they do is they hone in on inflammation.
Speaker 5: So anything that's chronically damaged is going to be releasing
Speaker 5: chemical inflammatory chemicals, and so the stem cells are attracted
Speaker 5: to those inflammatory chemicals and then they interact with the
Speaker 5: damaged tissue causing the inflammation to resolve. And then that
Speaker 5: creates an environment for healing naturally through your body's own
Speaker 5: healing mechanism, which is accelerated from the stem cells. And
Speaker 5: then in addition to that, the microvascular tissue rebuilds the
Speaker 5: blood vessels so that there's new improved blood flow to
Speaker 5: the damage nerve for a more permanent resolution of the issue.
Speaker 4: When someone comes in that let's say, when you generally
Speaker 4: talk about a pain level, is it like a one
Speaker 4: to ten. When they come in and you kind of
Speaker 4: start factoring it like that, then I assume you actually
Speaker 4: take like I don't think you would call it an
Speaker 4: X ray, but some image of the foot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, well we want to see and we want
Speaker 5: to see an X ray to begin with to start with,
Speaker 5: so we know what the anatomy looks like.
Speaker 14: Got it.
Speaker 5: And then what we do is we have instruments that
Speaker 5: we use. There's one instrument it looks like a piece
Speaker 5: of fishing wire connected to a handle, and what we
Speaker 5: do is we tap that all along the bottom of
Speaker 5: the foot and we map out where the numb and
Speaker 5: painful areas are and that will give us I'm giving
Speaker 5: a brief synopsis to do a couple more things, but
Speaker 5: that basically gives us a map of where the where
Speaker 5: the where the problem is.
Speaker 1: Which sets up where the injections cot.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: Although we do inject the entire foot on everybody with
Speaker 5: this issue no matter what, it gives us an idea
Speaker 5: of what we're starting with, how bad it is, so
Speaker 5: that we can mark, we can measure the improvement over
Speaker 5: time and also know where the worst part of the damage.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, so I gotta take this break.
Speaker 4: Listen to this, So folks, when we start talking about
Speaker 4: the results, you're gonna be flabberg acid.
Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do a little deeper dive into this because
Speaker 4: I've gotten four emails at this point about it. But John,
Speaker 4: we're getting on an attorney to help you after the
Speaker 4: break as well.
Speaker 1: Everybody hold tight, all.
Speaker 4: Right, listen, we got a lot kicking. I got an
Speaker 4: expert coming up for John. He's got that question on probate.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be talking to doctor Joel Wait to hear
Speaker 4: what they can do for neuropathy. Pay now, it's unbelievable
Speaker 4: everybody hold tight, another hour coming up right here. I'm
Speaker 4: the Troubleshooter Network.
Speaker 3: Ripped as a kid.
Speaker 7: Shooter's gonna help coming man.
Speaker 1: This is the Troubleshooter Show.
Speaker 4: No Tom Martinez, welcome, Welcome, my friends to the only
Speaker 4: show of this can. We're here to solve problems, answer questions,
Speaker 4: take complaints. Our goal in life is to make yours
Speaker 4: a little bit better. We even did a little bit
Speaker 4: of a negotiations today for somebody, and we've got an
Speaker 4: update coming up on that poor dog that was shot yesterday.
Speaker 4: We've got a lot kicking. Hey, Kelly, did you reach
Speaker 4: out to Dan mackenzie.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 15: He has not texted me back yet and he wasn't
Speaker 15: answering his foolks. We may have to reschedule.
Speaker 4: Sure, John, listen, I want to get an attorney on
Speaker 4: to talk about what's going on with the death of
Speaker 4: your brother. We definitely want to do that, So hang on, Kelly,
Speaker 4: make sure we got his information because we can always
Speaker 4: call back the second we can get McKenzie on, and
Speaker 4: hopefully that'll be this hour. But John, I wanted to
Speaker 4: get you that free legal advice and what you should
Speaker 4: do and kind of dig into that. So we're going
Speaker 4: to do that, and then Deputy Chopper has an update
Speaker 4: on that dog shooting. But I want to tell you something.
Speaker 4: Frank Duran, the real estate man, when he sold our
Speaker 4: house in Castle Rock, you know, he listed our house
Speaker 4: in Red Hawk for less than that same model was
Speaker 4: going for anywhere in the neighborhood. And I said, Frank,
Speaker 4: what are your nuts? That's all part of his secret sauce.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you the bottom line. I'll skip to the end.
Speaker 4: I'll skip to the good part.
Speaker 1: You ready.
Speaker 4: He made us more on that model than that model
Speaker 4: sold for anywhere else in the neighborhood. Frank Durand sold
Speaker 4: our house in less than two weeks.
Speaker 1: And he sold it for more than that.
Speaker 4: Model got anywhere else in the neighborhood in that period
Speaker 4: of time. Absolutely remarkable. You want the best realtor, you
Speaker 4: call Frank. In fact, check out his MLS stats. Frank
Speaker 4: sells more homes for more money in one month than
Speaker 4: most realtors in the entire state of Colorado do, which
Speaker 4: is an absolutely amazing thing. Now we're gonna go to
Speaker 4: that update on the dog thing from yesterday, but I
Speaker 4: got to recap it real quick. Here's the bottom line,
Speaker 4: this guy calls during the show and it was amazing.
Speaker 4: He's sitting there. A ATF officer walks through his fence
Speaker 4: and his front yard is fenced in, opens the gate,
Speaker 4: comes in, according to the caller, opens up his screen door,
Speaker 4: and he was there to talk about a stolen gun
Speaker 4: that the caller's wife reported stolen.
Speaker 1: So he was there apparently for that reason.
Speaker 4: Dog, here's the guy open the front screen door, comes
Speaker 4: running out. I believe it was a pitbull mastive mix.
Speaker 4: I mean, we're talking a pretty big, beefy, scary dog,
Speaker 4: and the cop laid four bullets into it, afraid for
Speaker 4: his life, or I should say ATF officer. That is
Speaker 4: what happened, had happened live right here on the air.
Speaker 4: The guy called, and the cops were on their way,
Speaker 4: and by the time the conversation, an hour or so
Speaker 4: goes by, by the time we let that guy go
Speaker 4: towards the end, I think it was the Greely Police.
Speaker 4: Does anybody remember what police agency off hand? Lafayette? I
Speaker 4: believe it was Lafayette, but Deputy Chopper, he's one of
Speaker 4: her deputy's former police officer for Denver. You reached out,
Speaker 4: was it to the Lafayette Police Department.
Speaker 1: Chopper.
Speaker 10: I reached out to.
Speaker 2: Both Lafia and the public officer of ATF.
Speaker 1: And what did we find out? Man?
Speaker 4: Did I pretty much say that story right? It unfolded
Speaker 4: pretty much live on the air, at least the aftermath.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. There's a little bit of a change
Speaker 2: which I'll read to you shortly. But Lafayette got back
Speaker 2: to me right away, their division chief or deputy chief,
Speaker 2: and they basically said they just responded to the scene
Speaker 2: because there was a call of shots fired and they
Speaker 2: really didn't do anything more than what we would call
Speaker 2: cover ATF and they didn't get involved or do any
Speaker 2: criminal charges because unfortunately, it was a dog that was killed.
Speaker 2: I'm a pet lover, I know how horrible.
Speaker 1: It had to be.
Speaker 4: Chopper, you were a cop. I didn't understand something you said.
Speaker 4: So when they responded, you said, I think you just
Speaker 4: said protecting ATF or something along those lines.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 2: That just means, uh, that they may need more assistance
Speaker 2: because things could go bad, which they did, as we
Speaker 2: heard on you know, part of that call yesterday.
Speaker 1: They did. They were starting to get crazy.
Speaker 4: Now let me ask you another question before we get
Speaker 4: into the update. In your experience, when something has federal
Speaker 4: officers or federal law enforcement involved, like this, ATF is
Speaker 4: showing up there according to the caller because his wife
Speaker 4: had a gun stolen something like that. And if there's
Speaker 4: an update on that, that's great. I'd love to hear
Speaker 4: that part. But when there's federal officers, then the locals
Speaker 4: come in. In a case like this, do locals have
Speaker 4: any authority whatsoever? In other words, why isn't Lafayette doing
Speaker 4: an investigation into this?
Speaker 1: Or are they.
Speaker 2: Actually according to the Deputy chief, they're not because they're
Speaker 2: there was no criminal act in their mind because what
Speaker 2: happened went down lawfle by the ATF agent.
Speaker 1: Okay, now I will tell you Mark.
Speaker 4: But wait a minute, Wait a minute, chapter right, Wait
Speaker 4: a minute, Dough, you glanced over my second question or
Speaker 4: a part of the same question. Let's say something according
Speaker 4: to the caller, the guy opened his door, which he
Speaker 4: probably shouldn't have done. Let's just say that was on
Speaker 4: a ring camera. Let's say this guy had proof that
Speaker 4: the ATF officer walked into his house or opened his
Speaker 4: front door like he stated yesterday. If there was proof
Speaker 4: of that, would the Lafayette police then do an investigation,
Speaker 4: or they simply don't have the authority to do one
Speaker 4: because the FEDS trump the locals.
Speaker 2: Well, they could do an investigation, that's correct, Mark, But
Speaker 2: you're right they would more than likely turn it over
Speaker 2: to the FBI to follow up on an investigation or
Speaker 2: ATF which we'll get to shortly in this paragraph. I
Speaker 2: have would follow up and do the investments.
Speaker 1: Right, Go ahead, give us the updates. I'm dying to know.
Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, the one thing is that gun
Speaker 2: was never reported stolen because she didn't know the serial number.
Speaker 2: But I got a statement from the Crystal McCoy, the
Speaker 2: public information officer of ATV ATF. It's very short and
Speaker 2: i'll read it. On Tuesday, June tenth, a special agent
Speaker 2: approached the front door of a residence to contact the
Speaker 2: occupant as part of an active ongoing gun violent gun
Speaker 2: crime investigation. Receiving no response, the special agent began to
Speaker 2: leave when a large, aggressive, unrestrained dog charged towards the agent,
Speaker 2: at which time the dog attacked the agent and bit
Speaker 2: through the agent's close In order to stop the attack,
Speaker 2: the agent use their it says there, but it should
Speaker 2: be the agent use his issued service weapon to kill
Speaker 2: the dog. ATF Denver Field Division referred the incident to
Speaker 2: ATF's Professional Responsibility and Security Operations Division and the local
Speaker 2: Enforcement for review. That big words that they were saying
Speaker 2: is basically their internal affairs. And so then I asked
Speaker 2: two other questions to them that came to my mind.
Speaker 2: Was there a sign on the fence that said beware
Speaker 2: of dog? And then I asked did the agent push
Speaker 2: the door open and start to proceed into it? Then
Speaker 2: I got the typical federal response. And remember I did
Speaker 2: do some work for FEMA, and it basically said, we
Speaker 2: can't say anymore.
Speaker 8: And that was it.
Speaker 4: Wow, So we don't know what the answer to that
Speaker 4: would be. I mean, that's crazy. They wouldn't respond to that. Well,
Speaker 4: I guess it's not crazy.
Speaker 2: It's their procedure. Even that female we did things like that.
Speaker 2: But Mark, I just want to make one statement before
Speaker 2: we go off on this, and you're going to ask
Speaker 2: me probably.
Speaker 10: Some other things.
Speaker 2: And I used to say this all the time when
Speaker 2: I wrote up my internal go ahead, fair stuff, say it,
Speaker 2: and it applies here. I wasn't at the ballpark. Don't
Speaker 2: ask me to call the balls and strikes. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you don't understand what.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah I do.
Speaker 4: Here's what was interesting about that statement to me, what
Speaker 4: stuck out, okay, is that gun apparently was stolen and
Speaker 4: it sounds like it was used in a commission of some.
Speaker 1: Crime, whether a violent crime or I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, some some crime and these people weren't responding to it,
Speaker 4: so they went over there to investigate.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not saying they were alluding to.
Speaker 4: That these people or they thought that maybe these people
Speaker 4: had something to.
Speaker 1: Do with that crime. I mean, how did you read
Speaker 1: into that?
Speaker 2: I read into it basically what you said atf followed
Speaker 2: that gun down to these people, and they wanted to
Speaker 2: go there and say, hey, well went on, or they
Speaker 2: might have thought that maybe these people were involved in
Speaker 2: the crime, a conspiracy after or before the fact.
Speaker 4: They were very elusive in that they were kind of
Speaker 4: damning in one way, but very elusive in another. It's
Speaker 4: a very well written statement when it comes to that
Speaker 4: part of it, because it really made me think of
Speaker 4: numerous different things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're correct. Now, I will also say one other
Speaker 2: thing that would have I would have done my career.
Speaker 2: We would have been contacted and gone with ATF to
Speaker 2: the house because we were uniform officers. A lot of
Speaker 2: times people don't know you know what an ATF guy
Speaker 2: looks like.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what. You know.
Speaker 4: What's interesting about what you just said. You just sparked
Speaker 4: another thought, and that is this person apparently showed up
Speaker 4: by themselves, no backup, no police. So they must have
Speaker 4: not thought these people were violent or why would one
Speaker 4: person show up?
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense, does it.
Speaker 4: In other words, if they thought they may have had
Speaker 4: something to do with this crime, then why would they
Speaker 4: show up?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Sir Tom's notes.
Speaker 13: It says that the ATF agent came onto his property
Speaker 13: to serve his wife some papers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got it all mixed up.
Speaker 4: Okay, The whole thing went down so quick at first,
Speaker 4: and I want people out there to understand what Suzanne saying.
Speaker 4: At first, what they thought was someone was serving either
Speaker 4: child support or divorce papers to the wife.
Speaker 1: They had no idea this had to do with the stolen.
Speaker 13: Gun, so they genuinely thought that was what's happening.
Speaker 1: That's what they thought at first.
Speaker 4: And then when the ATF got involved during the call yesterday,
Speaker 4: the ATF showed up. That's where the real story started
Speaker 4: coming out.
Speaker 1: So that's that's curious, see.
Speaker 2: Right, Mark, Mark.
Speaker 17: You right.
Speaker 2: If they would have thought this was truly involved, I
Speaker 2: would have thought there would be two or three agents.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or they called for local background runs yeah, yes, and
Speaker 2: called lafia. So I think they were just going there
Speaker 2: to do a Hey, what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's horrible.
Speaker 2: Can you report the gun?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's horrible.
Speaker 4: Well, and I think they did end up reporting the
Speaker 4: gun because they were in some form of communication, if
Speaker 4: I understood the guy right yesterday. But here's what's really
Speaker 4: nuts in Colorado. Okay, first of all, this is just
Speaker 4: my opinion. So I got a dog gnawing at my leg.
Speaker 4: I'm shooting the dog. I'm sorry. That's a big dog.
Speaker 4: They said it was a mastiff mix. I don't know
Speaker 4: what the mix was, but it's a big dog.
Speaker 1: The dog. Should a guy walk through the gate?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 4: Should the guy have opened the door if he actually did,
Speaker 4: I bet they claim they didn't.
Speaker 8: But no.
Speaker 1: But once it's too late for all that, and there's a.
Speaker 4: Big ass dog gnawing on your leg, I'm gonna pop
Speaker 4: it too. I'm sorry, I'm just gonna do it. It's
Speaker 4: too late for anything else the dog could literally kill you.
Speaker 4: If anybody who's ever seen a bull mastiff, I mean
Speaker 4: you think a rottweiler's got a big head, look at
Speaker 4: a bull mast If it can kill a person, they
Speaker 4: hunt bear for God's sake.
Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, if he just opened a screen door to
Speaker 6: knock on the wooden door, that wouldn't be any kind
Speaker 6: of invasive of private proce.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 4: But he's saying that door is open, and they open
Speaker 4: the screen door to.
Speaker 1: Kind of yell in, hey, is anybody home or whatever?
Speaker 4: But regardless, they're denying that. There's no footage of it.
Speaker 4: But the second thing I want to say is, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: in a lot of states, you know what a pet's worth?
Speaker 4: Does anybody? We all love pets, my god, we love
Speaker 4: our dogs. We have two dogs, Dima, a Nico and
Speaker 4: a cat.
Speaker 1: A million mark.
Speaker 4: Yes are to the person, they're worth everything, but their
Speaker 4: private property.
Speaker 1: It's property.
Speaker 4: I hate to tell you that a German shepherd, if
Speaker 4: it's got papers, is worth fifteen hundred to twenty five
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. If you've got a mutt, it could be
Speaker 4: worth fifty dollars. I mean, it's it's worth what it is.
Speaker 4: It's property, it's tender, it's like currency, but it's a dog.
Speaker 4: And I realize there's there's things there. So the damages
Speaker 4: in this I just don't see any damages. It's a very,
Speaker 4: very horrible circumstance, though, you got anything else because I
Speaker 4: got to take a break before Shannon throws me through
Speaker 4: a window.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Just one quick thing, Mark, you did an excellent job
Speaker 2: on that concrete. I got those two people to call
Speaker 2: on in because it was a major dispute on the concrete.
Speaker 10: Call with Bob.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you're not being a helic helicopter pilot. You
Speaker 2: did a good job.
Speaker 1: Well. I appreciate that, shopper.
Speaker 4: All right, we got lines open. I'm dying to hear
Speaker 4: from you. Give me something to sink my teeth into.
Speaker 4: Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
Speaker 4: three oh three Martino, and we're going to dive back
Speaker 4: into this neuropathy and this new treatment from the folks
Speaker 4: at Denver Region. I'm going to tell you a little
Speaker 4: more about my diet, uh, my diet drugs two through
Speaker 4: these guys.
Speaker 1: These guys are great man, life changing. Hold on.
Speaker 4: Five three oh three, Martino, this is so important. I
Speaker 4: sometimes we talk about stuff and I just get very curious.
Speaker 4: But I hadn't gotten no less than four emails about neuropathy.
Speaker 4: In fact, doctor Joel, he's with Denver region. It really
Speaker 4: is amazing to me how many people suffer from it.
Speaker 4: And I guess the leading cause is being diabetic, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, most most patients with severe neuropathy in their feet
Speaker 5: are suffering that from diabetic from issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's crazy.
Speaker 4: And you said the other extremities to your hands fingers, Yes,
Speaker 4: and it's.
Speaker 1: Like a sharp pain. People that have it, of course
Speaker 1: know they have it.
Speaker 4: You guys take stem cells along with I'm not going
Speaker 4: to pretend to even remember what part of the secret
Speaker 4: potion is, but what is it.
Speaker 5: It's called MBT, which stands for microvascular tissue.
Speaker 1: And fully it's all. It just got FDA proved a.
Speaker 7: Few years two years ago for wound healing.
Speaker 4: So it accelerates a wound and in this case blood
Speaker 4: new blood vessel growth, new blood vessel growth to get
Speaker 4: the blood flowing better.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 4: And then once the blood is flowing better in the foot,
Speaker 4: for example, then the stem cells or even PRP or
Speaker 4: whatever else is in what you guys use basically can
Speaker 4: get to the affected bad nerve a lot easier because
Speaker 4: the blood vessels open well.
Speaker 5: The PRP combined with the stem cells are what's going
Speaker 5: to affect the healing of the nerve, and that will
Speaker 5: happen start happening right away because we're injecting it right
Speaker 5: into that area. What the MBT will do will will
Speaker 5: grow new blood vessels to that nerve that's healing, so
Speaker 5: that long term, that won't become reaggravated and continue to
Speaker 5: degenerate over time. So we're going to regenerate the nerve
Speaker 5: and we're going to restore the blood flow so that
Speaker 5: the nerve stays healthy so it.
Speaker 4: Doesn't die again, correct or get into pain again. So
Speaker 4: let's talk true results in all seriousness.
Speaker 1: You told me might even been yesterday.
Speaker 7: It was a few days ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometime like within the last week.
Speaker 8: Though.
Speaker 4: You had a couple patients, one of which had the
Speaker 4: procedure done what in the last week two weeks?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 5: So typically what I tell patients is to expect to
Speaker 5: have significant improvement between weeks four and six. Four to
Speaker 5: six weeks is about how long it takes to that's
Speaker 5: incredible to really notice a difference.
Speaker 4: How what do you mean significant? Let's say I want
Speaker 4: to go back to the pain scale. I assume you
Speaker 4: guys at some point ask somebody you know if your
Speaker 4: your pain is here as a one. Here it's the
Speaker 4: worst at a ten. So let's take on my scale there,
Speaker 4: Let's say it's an eight. I mean, what are we
Speaker 4: talking in four weeks? Is it possible that that's even
Speaker 4: fifty percent better?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's likely that it's going to be sixty to
Speaker 5: eighty percent better.
Speaker 4: Sixty to eighty percent better, Yeah, in four weeks, Yes,
Speaker 4: that's incredible. Does it ever get to the point where
Speaker 4: that nerve is fully functional, not in pain, the blood's flowing,
Speaker 4: and everything's good, meaning you don't have neuropathy anymore?
Speaker 5: Certainly, certainly we've achieved those results with some of our patients.
Speaker 5: A lot of it depends on how bad and how
Speaker 5: long standing the neuropathy has been. But what we do
Speaker 5: is when we sit down and we talk to each
Speaker 5: one of our prospective patients, we tell them what we
Speaker 5: think the expectation's going to be. So for every patient
Speaker 5: that's going to be different. But the answer your question
Speaker 5: is yes, we have many patients who have achieved complete,
Speaker 5: absolute resolution of the neuropathy from this procedure, and.
Speaker 4: Like, how many months to get to that kind of result?
Speaker 4: That sounds incredible.
Speaker 5: We've seen that happen anywhere from that four to six
Speaker 5: week mark out to several months later because the stem
Speaker 5: cells will continue to do the work.
Speaker 1: They just keep going for like four to.
Speaker 7: Six months after we've jested, even with just.
Speaker 1: One treatment, even with just one how long does that take?
Speaker 4: Is this like you go get checked into a hospital
Speaker 4: and this is like a full day thing.
Speaker 1: Is it painful? I mean, give me the skinny.
Speaker 5: It's about an hour to two hours in our out
Speaker 5: patient clinic.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 5: That's it, and the only pain is going to be
Speaker 5: from the injections. But we numb the area that we're injecting.
Speaker 5: We numb the skin with lytocine.
Speaker 1: So it's like getting a shot.
Speaker 7: It's like getting a shot. Well, you're getting sick shot.
Speaker 1: But it's yeah.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say you're getting multiple right, but that's
Speaker 4: the extent of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, And then you're.
Speaker 5: Saying, well, let me just make it Cavia. We do
Speaker 5: do a small blood draw at the beginning before we
Speaker 5: do anything, so that we can extract the platelets from
Speaker 5: the blood and add that to the stem cells. But
Speaker 5: that's the blood draw with a small needle.
Speaker 4: And then you were telling me people that are up
Speaker 4: to like sixty years old or somewhere in there.
Speaker 1: I forget the ages.
Speaker 4: You can use their own stem cells, and then people
Speaker 4: that are older that their stem cells might not be
Speaker 4: in the best shape if you will you use basically
Speaker 4: a donor stem cell.
Speaker 5: Most of the foot neuropathy cases that we treat we
Speaker 5: use donor cells, and the reason being is that most
Speaker 5: foot neuropathy patients are in the older age group.
Speaker 1: Just speak, that's just part of it. I get it,
Speaker 1: because that's the age group.
Speaker 5: So we do we do typically recommend to billcore donor
Speaker 5: stem cells that we use in our procedure. Now, if
Speaker 5: a patient is insisting that we use their own of
Speaker 5: the technology and the capability to do that, or for
Speaker 5: talking about a younger patient who's in great health, or
Speaker 5: even an older patient that's in great health but just
Speaker 5: happens to have this issue, then we will recommend using
Speaker 5: their own cells. But typically neuropathy patient's going to be older,
Speaker 5: and I got it, they're gonna have other you.
Speaker 1: Want the younger stem cells, they're gonna be.
Speaker 5: You know, they're gonna have diabetes, so there's their own
Speaker 5: stem cells aren't gonna work as well as the donor cells.
Speaker 1: Would you know what, Ray? Hold on? I got it.
Speaker 4: I'm catching up on breaks here. Ray's got a question
Speaker 4: for you, Doc, so hold on. But to me, it's
Speaker 4: amazing just thinking that someone dealing with neuropathy.
Speaker 1: And my dad had it.
Speaker 4: Oh, it was like two visits ago, and he lost
Speaker 4: a lot of weight and started eating better and doing stuff.
Speaker 4: But his foot pain was crazy and I didn't quite
Speaker 4: understand it at the time. This is going back a
Speaker 4: couple of years, and it just looked miserable. I mean
Speaker 4: I couldn't feel it, but I could see it. In fact,
Speaker 4: his toes, his toes went backwards in a weird way.
Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like that, and I'm not so
Speaker 4: sure that'spathy that part of it. But his foot was
Speaker 4: in pain, that was the bottom line. And it just
Speaker 4: looks miserable. And to think someone can get this treatment
Speaker 4: in under two hours and possibly be one hundred percent
Speaker 4: within a couple months is mind blowing. And then being
Speaker 4: eighty percent better in two to four weeks is insane.
Speaker 5: Doc, four to six weeks, But four to six weeks,
Speaker 5: and I will say, you know, anecdotally, recently since we
Speaker 5: started adding the microvascular tissue, the results have spent.
Speaker 7: Time frame has sped up, so we've had.
Speaker 1: Because once again that opens up the blood.
Speaker 5: Flow right and it creates new blood flow. So we've
Speaker 5: had a couple of patients in the past month that
Speaker 5: we treated that within that first week of treatment, we're
Speaker 5: reporting to us significant improvement. Now that's not something that
Speaker 5: we're going to promise every patient. They're going to get
Speaker 5: our typical recommendation or or suggestions that they're going to
Speaker 5: field significant relief at four to six weeks, but you know,
Speaker 5: we're getting a number of patients getting better quicker than that.
Speaker 1: Everybody hold tight, Denverregen dot com.
Speaker 4: That's doctor Joel's place, and I use him for the
Speaker 4: weight loss drug and my journey on that has been great.
Speaker 4: And you're MD over there, doctor Honk, great guy. Everybody
Speaker 4: hold tight, all right, renew windows. Let me look at
Speaker 4: something here, folks. I'm sure I got three things on
Speaker 4: my mind. Listen, I just want to get right to
Speaker 4: this question. Honestly, for doctor Joel, I'm just amazed by
Speaker 4: what we've been talking about. Oh did he drop off?
Speaker 4: Wasn't that line too? Am I crazy?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 11: Ray?
Speaker 1: He dropped off? Ray?
Speaker 4: You waited that whole time then you dropped off? Or
Speaker 4: is that still him?
Speaker 1: Kelly?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 1: Ray? What's your question? Hey? Ray, you're up? What's your question? Sir?
Speaker 9: Hey, thank you for taking Yes, sir, I've had teling
Speaker 9: in my toes for the last couple of months, and
Speaker 9: uh once in my doctor here and on Monday and
Speaker 9: he said, basically they're going to send me up to
Speaker 9: I believe a neurologist stuff at St. Anthony's north of
Speaker 9: six and Sims.
Speaker 8: My question is I.
Speaker 9: Haven't heard the whole conversation since I've been driving, But
Speaker 9: is any of this covered by health insurance?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, you must get that question more than any other question.
Speaker 1: When it comes to.
Speaker 7: That, we get that question a lot.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, health insurance doesn't cover any regenerative medicine procedures for anything,
Speaker 5: for anything. I think they might cover PRP under Medicare.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: But what we do to try and make it affordable
Speaker 5: for our patients is we offer a number of different.
Speaker 7: Financing programs.
Speaker 1: Hey, Ray, And it's not that crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to get into pricing, because everybody can
Speaker 4: be a little different. But it's not like it's not
Speaker 4: like ten thousand dollars or anything. And if you can
Speaker 4: stretch payments out and it gets rid of the pain,
Speaker 4: I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's whatever it's worth to you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it doesn't all go ahead.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Ray, It's okay.
Speaker 9: I'm not a pauper. You know, I'm retired. I'm sixty
Speaker 9: eight years old.
Speaker 1: And hey, how bad is your neuropathy?
Speaker 14: Ray?
Speaker 1: I mean, is it like on a scale to one
Speaker 1: to ten?
Speaker 9: Probably about two or three maybe? I mean, I have
Speaker 9: tinglings under my toes the last couple of months. And
Speaker 9: now they're they're going to refer me to Saint Anthony's
Speaker 9: up in diss and Sims.
Speaker 8: You know, they'll do some.
Speaker 9: Testing, you know, I mean, this is all strange to me.
Speaker 1: Hey, Doc, what do they so when?
Speaker 4: He since, since insurance doesn't pay for these kinds of procedures,
Speaker 4: it's just the way it is. Eventually they will be
Speaker 4: in fact, I mean who knows when, but eventually, why
Speaker 4: wouldn't they In fact, honestly, insurance companies are so stupid
Speaker 4: because they almost wait until you might have to go
Speaker 4: in and get your damn foot cut off or something
Speaker 4: and have a massive surgery compared to fixing it when
Speaker 4: it just starts off like Ray, right, it's really crazy
Speaker 4: and that goes for way more than just stem cells.
Speaker 7: Correct.
Speaker 1: So but let let me ask you this.
Speaker 4: Typically, what do they do if you go through your
Speaker 4: your standard practitioner, what do they do for neuropathy?
Speaker 5: Well, they're going to do what's called an EMG test,
Speaker 5: and that just measures how fast the nerves are firing,
Speaker 5: how well they're functioning.
Speaker 1: Okay, and let's say they suck.
Speaker 5: Then what then you're looking at medications.
Speaker 4: So then they they basically pump you fully drugs. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they try to treat. They're treating the pain. They're not
Speaker 4: They're they're treating the pain, not the problem.
Speaker 5: Great, they're they're like with a lot of medicine, they're
Speaker 5: treating the symptom, not the cause.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ray, I'd look into it.
Speaker 4: I'd call over there and you were saying some about
Speaker 4: pricing when I said it's not over ten thousand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's going to range depending on how much
Speaker 5: we need to do. But you know, it doesn't cost
Speaker 5: anything to get a consultation with us to our clinic
Speaker 5: Denver region dot com or go to our website, give
Speaker 5: us a call, we'll get back to the same day.
Speaker 5: You'll speak with our patient coordinator. They'll get all the
Speaker 5: information they need from you, and then we'll get that
Speaker 5: over to our doc to do an evaluation. And I
Speaker 5: want to let you know, is it's something that we
Speaker 5: can treat, if it's something that we can't treat, If
Speaker 5: it's something oftentimes, we might need some more testing or
Speaker 5: some more imaging to determine that.
Speaker 1: And that's all free.
Speaker 7: Yeah, to take that consultation will cost nothing.
Speaker 9: One last question, Go ahead, all right, so you're telling
Speaker 9: me and this is news to me, Okay, yes, so
Speaker 9: you know although it's not surprising. Go ahead, Ray, they're
Speaker 9: gonna treat me with drugs, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yes, traditionally, Yes, they're going to see how much nerve
Speaker 4: damage is there by whatever that test what do you
Speaker 4: call it em an EMG test, an EMG test, they'll
Speaker 4: get the results of it. Then they will prescribe some
Speaker 4: form of medication to help you with the tingling or
Speaker 4: the pain, depending on how that test comes back.
Speaker 1: That's usually what they do.
Speaker 5: Right, There's really nothing that they can offer that's going
Speaker 5: to regenerate that nerve that they.
Speaker 4: Just simply don't pay for that, So therefore it won't
Speaker 4: even be an option when you go there.
Speaker 14: All right, So.
Speaker 9: If I neglect to go with them, what difference of
Speaker 9: treatment are you going to provide for me?
Speaker 1: So Ray, listen to what we're saying.
Speaker 4: The treatment these guys at Denver Region, what they do
Speaker 4: is they go in and fix the problem. When the
Speaker 4: problem's fixed, you won't have the tingle, the tingles or
Speaker 4: the pain anymore. They don't They're not treating the pain.
Speaker 4: They're literally fixing the nerve damage to make the nerve
Speaker 4: grow again so the pain goes away.
Speaker 9: Okay, So I don't mean to sound stupid. Yeah, how
Speaker 9: did they do that differently? As far astrea, I haven't
Speaker 9: heard the whole story because I just got out on
Speaker 9: line with you guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all right, Ray, hold on, I'm going to
Speaker 4: put you Here's what I want, Ray, because I got
Speaker 4: a break. But Ray, Kelly, make sure Ray has a
Speaker 4: phone number over to Denver REGT and they will talk
Speaker 4: to him about every bit of this over the phone.
Speaker 4: They'll go over the whole thing. Ray, I just simply
Speaker 4: can't recap everything. Plus I have to take this break.
Speaker 4: But it sounds like it's perfect. I mean, really, someone
Speaker 4: on the scale it's starting out, Doc, I mean this
Speaker 4: guy could see results so fast.
Speaker 1: It's nuts.
Speaker 7: Well, the sooner that you treat that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the sooner you do it, the better that you
Speaker 1: treat that.
Speaker 10: The better.
Speaker 7: And we just need to do a few things to
Speaker 7: evaluate it make sure.
Speaker 1: All right, I got to take this Listen.
Speaker 4: We've been talking to doctor Joel cherdak Denverregen dot com.
Speaker 4: You have any questions on the neuropathy. I love the
Speaker 4: fact you guys just a one hundred percent free assessment.
Speaker 1: You talk to them, tell them about it.
Speaker 4: But it really drives me crazy, doc, thinking how our
Speaker 4: primary care physicians and other people, all they simply do
Speaker 4: is they test you for the neuropathy, make sure it's there,
Speaker 4: then they put you on a painkiller.
Speaker 7: Basically, Yes, I mean that's.
Speaker 4: Insane to me. You guys can go in and fix it,
Speaker 4: and insurance should cover it. It really should. Our insurance
Speaker 4: in this country is absolutely ridiculous. They'd be way better
Speaker 4: off treating stuff permanently than trying to mask it up or.
Speaker 1: Getting someone addicted. To opiates or something.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying they give them opiates, but my god,
Speaker 4: pain medication. People out there, listen if you suffer from
Speaker 4: neuropathy or if you're like me and want to lose
Speaker 4: that weight, which by the way, thirty five pounds at
Speaker 4: a very quick amount of time. Denverregen dot com, Denverregen
Speaker 4: dot com, We're going to have an update tomorrow for
Speaker 4: you on that engine rebuilder, hopefully first.
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