WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:13.320 Ripped off, so you don't have come running. 2 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:18.879 Just as as as we can show, Shooter's gonna help coming. 3 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:24.640 Man, This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez, get my. 4 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:26.519 Friends to the only show of It's gotten. 5 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:30.160 We're here to solve problems, answer questions, take complaints. 6 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:32.719 Our goal is to make your life a little bit better. 7 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:35.640 If you've been ripped off or taken advantage of, maybe 8 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:39.799 a contractor didn't show up to actually start the job 9 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:42.479 after you gave some money down. Maybe you got a 10 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:45.840 landlord and the heat has not been working or the 11 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.840 air conditioner. 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It's 43 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:36.479 an amazing deal. But that's it waterpros dot net. That's 44 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:41.000 waterpros dot net now three oh three seven one three. 45 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:43.000 A two five five A ton of stuff going on. 46 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:47.240 I didn't realize last night we had some issues in 47 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:50.680 downtown Denver. Suzanna and I just got back into town, 48 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:54.719 and I guess, uh, I don't want to call them riots. 49 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:57.479 I didn't really see the video, but it looked like 50 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:00.439 there was some protests going on, and it looked like, 51 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.080 according to at least Fox or nine News, there was 52 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:07.360 somewhere around thirteen or fifteen different arrestmate. Of course, we 53 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:11.280 all saw what was going on in Los Angeles. That 54 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:16.680 was pretty crazy. Trump sent in the National Guard, which 55 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:20.639 is unbelievable, and then I guess there's some marines there 56 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:22.719 protecting some of the federal property. 57 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:23.599 Man. 58 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:29.240 Talk about escalating, I've never seen like the far left, 59 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:31.319 and I mean, I don't even mind saying the far 60 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:34.840 right or the current administration. I actually don't consider Trump 61 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:38.560 the far far right, but he's definitely. 62 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:38.639 To the right. 63 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:43.759 The way they escalate each other is pretty amazing. They 64 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:48.439 just come out feud and constantly, and I don't know 65 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:51.039 when the end of it'll be. I'm just happy the 66 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:54.879 stock market's still doing good. I'm happy Tesla has come 67 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:56.919 back up. I owned a lot of Tesla's stock, and 68 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:00.240 that guy went kind of insane there for a little bit. 69 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.280 I mean, my got a feud between him and Trump. 70 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:08.360 Two billionaires bitching at each other publicly. That were great 71 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:14.120 friends not long ago, was absolutely insane. Doctor Joel Chardak 72 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:18.160 joins me in studio. Doctor Joel is the owner of 73 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:21.079 Denver region dot com. A lot of people know I've 74 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.399 been on that diet medication and I get it through 75 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:26.800 Denver Regent. In fact, Doc, I took my shot this morning, 76 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.600 and I'm so used to it. I remember when I 77 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:34.560 first started six months ago. I was terrified, literally terrified 78 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:37.560 the shot would hurt. And it's it is such a 79 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:41.319 nothing burger. It's crazy. You don't even feel it, honestly. 80 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.319 Right, that's the same experience we get with most of 81 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:45.720 our patients. You know, it's a little fear of the needle, 82 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.399 which is understandable, but it's an insulin needle. It's like 83 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:50.560 almost microscopically. 84 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:50.680 It's amazing. 85 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:54.199 Yeah, you don't have to like find an artery or anything. 86 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:56.879 You just basically put it right in your stomach. You 87 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.800 feel nothing. And I know that sounds horrible because I 88 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:02.319 one of those people that put it off, But you know, 89 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:05.120 I wanted to get rid of that last forty pounds 90 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:07.439 I weighed a little over two hundred and thirty. 91 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:09.360 I'm down to like one ninety five. 92 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:11.920 In fact, I just got back from Las Vegas, some 93 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.959 of the best food in the world, and I actually 94 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:16.240 lost a pound while. 95 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:16.600 I was there. 96 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:19.199 I just think, yeah, I know, but you think of 97 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:22.680 the money you saved too with restaurants, especially in Las Vegas. 98 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:26.959 Especially in Las Vegas, there's some wonderful restaurants. I'd argue 99 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.240 Las Vegas has the best food in the country, better 100 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:34.439 than New York City, better than California. They fly stuff 101 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:37.839 in fresh every hour on the hour from the coastline 102 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:39.480 from wherever it needs to be. 103 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:41.399 Go ahead, Doc, I say, I think you're right. The 104 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.759 only difference is being in New York. I have to 105 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:48.399 stand up for us. The quantity is unbelievable In New York. 106 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:49.680 Yeah, they give you more food. 107 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:51.519 Well no, no, I mean a number of places that you 108 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:52.040 can eat. 109 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:55.000 Oh, Doc, when's the last time you've been to Vegas. 110 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:57.439 I mean there's like eight million restaurants. 111 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:01.079 Yeah, but then it's twenty million in that's probably say 112 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:02.199 I agree with you. 113 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:03.680 There's unbelievable. 114 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:08.639 An Italian food in New York City is delicious. South Jersey, 115 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:10.920 where I grew up, of course, some of the best 116 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.560 Italian food in the world. Cheese steaks over in Philadelphia. 117 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.720 There's still nothing like a Philly cheese stick. Where'd you 118 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:18.639 grow up, Doc. 119 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:19.279 South Florida? 120 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.879 Oh wow, seafood fish Yeah, and it's cheap. 121 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.480 It's abundant and it's cheap. Yep. 122 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.639 I mean really, And then we've been looking out there 123 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.600 possibly for a house or a uh, you know, a 124 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.600 winter getaway to put it in a better way. So, Susannah, 125 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:37.600 I've been out there in Louisiana and other places and Grits. 126 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:39.079 Krusha loves it. 127 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:39.720 Grits. 128 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:41.000 It's crazy. 129 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:43.160 Hey, Mark, you're gonna have to say that, Doc Wan 130 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.399 or Doc two, so you know who you're talking to. 131 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:49.439 Yeah, that's true. Two ducks. I'll say, retired doc that's you, 132 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:53.560 and not retired doc, that's doctor Joel. These guys over 133 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:56.480 at Denver Region, they have a new product I. 134 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:58.399 Wanted to talk about and kind of dive into. 135 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:03.920 And I'm very interesting in it for numerous reasons, and 136 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:06.839 one of them is years ago, and I just want 137 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:09.120 to get this part out of the way. Years ago, 138 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.720 we had a company on Doc Suzanne, who was it 139 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:14.519 with the ship in stem cells? 140 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.240 Who was it? For the life of me. 141 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:21.480 A second, I can't think of the guy's name in 142 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:25.800 the morning. Yeah, there's two. There's two companies. I can remember. 143 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:30.079 Three companies. I can remember hating to deal with that. 144 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:34.519 We actually have potential. No, Centeno's good. Okay, Yeah, Sintenna 145 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.759 was the guy that kind of kind of started stem 146 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:41.560 cells in a way. But anyhow, that's a different story. 147 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.759 But I can't think of the name of this clinic. 148 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:49.240 But basically they were shipping in stem cells that did nothing. 149 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:51.360 I mean, I don't know how else to put it. 150 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:55.959 We had more than one person show up to this clinic. 151 00:07:56.040 --> 00:08:00.439 It's probably over ten years ago, way pre COVID. God, 152 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:03.120 I wish I could remember the damn name of that place. 153 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.920 But anyhow, Doc, they were just ripoffs. They were charging 154 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:12.360 fifteen thousand dollars and they were basically saying that you know, 155 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.959 you get this magic potion of stem cells that we 156 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:19.759 get from wherever they got it, China or I don't 157 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:21.920 even remember where they got it. And if you had 158 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:24.480 a bad shoulder, bam, your shoulder was fine, you have 159 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.480 a bad knee, bam, your knees fine. 160 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:28.879 I think it was a mambiotic fluid log if I 161 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:30.160 remember correctly. 162 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:31.720 Yeah, it probably was. 163 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.759 But regardless of any of that, the bottom line was 164 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.480 the product wasn't working. It just simply wasn't working. So 165 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.240 we kind of part ways with those guys. But there 166 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.480 was that one. Then there was a solar company, solar Mart, 167 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:48.000 and we advertised for them for a long time and 168 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.480 then the guy just got I don't know what happened 169 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:52.399 to him, Honestly, I have no idea the guy. 170 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:53.440 The guy just. 171 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:57.879 Went crazy and we had to kill that relationship. And 172 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:01.679 then there was one more that I just lost my 173 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:04.519 train of thought on. But there was one more. But Doc, 174 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:07.679 I want to talk about this neuropathy in your stem 175 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:10.320 cell treatment, Okay, I mean I really do want to 176 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:11.639 dive in and understand it. 177 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.240 When we talked about what you guys do for hair 178 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:16.360 last time you were in, it was amazing. 179 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:21.039 My education level went way up on it because you 180 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:25.159 do use some form of stem cells PRP along with 181 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:30.559 the actual transplant, and the results, well results are what 182 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:33.000 results are, and they're unbelievable. 183 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:33.240 Right. 184 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:35.399 Well, Tom had the procedure done. He spoke about it 185 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:38.559 on his show numerous times and talked about how well 186 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:39.279 it worked for him. 187 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.480 It worked so well for him, it was crazy. 188 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:46.720 Now, yeah, because of his current situation, just getting over cancer, 189 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:49.639 and he had some chemo and stuff that didn't exactly 190 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:52.039 help the hair by any man certainly. But I'll tell 191 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.480 you this before that I was absolutely shocked how quick 192 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:57.480 his hair was growing. 193 00:09:57.799 --> 00:09:58.759 It was amazing. 194 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.559 Yes, in fact, I've never seen anything like it, and 195 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:04.200 I well, okay, I digress. 196 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:06.159 It was it was absolutely crazy. 197 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:10.039 But now you guys have something for neuropathy, and I 198 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.080 don't suffer from neuropathy, but I know a lot of 199 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.000 diabetics do, correct, So I kind of want to dive 200 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:18.600 into that, and I want to dive in the actual 201 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.519 results once again. To me, everything comes down to results. 202 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:25.279 I've seen it with hair. I've done your diet drug. 203 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:29.679 I've lost I'm down to basically one ninety five thirty 204 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:32.440 five pounds in less than six months. By the way, 205 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:36.759 do most people hit like a plateau. I hit a 206 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:40.159 plateau at about I want to say, twenty or twenty 207 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.919 five pounds, and that next ten pounds took a lot 208 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.480 longer I say a lot longer. It only took like 209 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:49.679 a month. But then the original is that normal real quick? 210 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:50.720 That's very typical. 211 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.960 Why is that those first pounds are easier for your 212 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:55.519 body to shed, They just get rid of it. 213 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:56.440 They just your body. 214 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.320 You know, as you get to a point where your 215 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.480 body needs more of the the mass that you have, 216 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:04.639 it becomes a little bit more challenging to reduce that weight. 217 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:07.120 And I want to address this just briefly. 218 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:09.720 One thing that we do that a lot of clinics 219 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.919 that are out there offering these products don't offer is 220 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.279 guidance by our medical doctor and our medical team ye 221 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:18.279 an MD and a. 222 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.039 Patient coordinat And I deal with my doc over there 223 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:23.200 is hung right right, And I love the guy. 224 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:25.399 He's our weight loss and weight management special. 225 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:27.440 He's on my I mean literally, I hate to say it, 226 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.279 but I'm sure it's just not me. He's on my 227 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:30.039 beck and call. 228 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:30.639 Yeah. 229 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:32.759 He gives you his personal number and you can reach 230 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:34.559 out to him any time. But the point I was 231 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:36.879 trying to get to is many patients do get to 232 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:38.600 a point where they reach a plateau, and one of 233 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:41.000 the options that we have for them is to increase 234 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:42.559 the dosage if they're tolerating it. 235 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.080 Well, yeah, and that will. 236 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:47.279 I didn't do that. I didn't increase it. It just 237 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:49.759 seemed like after a couple of weeks and it just 238 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:50.879 started working again. 239 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:52.120 Well, and that's great. 240 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:53.720 And I wasn't eating anymore. 241 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:55.840 That's the part that's kind of mind blowing to me, 242 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:59.039 because it's not like all of a sudden I was 243 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.399 starting to get hunger or you're thinking of food. Nothing 244 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:04.480 changed there, just all of a sudden the weight loss 245 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.519 didn't continue on the same path, right. 246 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:10.480 And the point of ben Bam and the point I 247 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:12.799 was trying to get to is that because you have 248 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.879 that access to our medical staff, you can have this 249 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.440 conversation with them and they can give you very great 250 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:23.000 advice and details about what options have different options you have, 251 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:25.320 and doing it in a safe way. Yeah, there's a 252 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:28.000 lot of clinics out there that you're almost self diagnosing, 253 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.480 deciding how much you want to use without any guidance, 254 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:32.320 and frankly, that's dangerous. 255 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:34.639 Well yeah, and you guys simply don't do that. So 256 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:36.759 let me take this quick break. I want to come 257 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:40.279 back and talk really do somewhat not of total deep dive. 258 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.039 I don't want to lose half our audience. But there's 259 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.559 a lot of people that suffer from neuropathy. There's absolutely 260 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:52.879 no doubt about it. And this new treatment the results 261 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:54.480 once again, I talk results. 262 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:55.879 You're incredible, all right. 263 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:57.960 I do have lines open. I'm not sure what happened 264 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.960 to Linda there. Maybe I was talking too much. Three 265 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.480 seven one three eight two five five three oh three 266 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:06.159 Martin hold type. 267 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:10.759 Don't forget. 268 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:15.159 You can check out Troubleshooter Network on YouTube and listen 269 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.360 to us during the breaks. We were actually talking, uh, 270 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.120 the doc and myself. We're talking about different therapies out 271 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:23.799 there now and we're going to die back into that 272 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:26.279 stem cell But three oh three seven one three a 273 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:29.600 two five five I'd love to hear from you. Any questions, 274 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:33.120 any problems, anybody you want to tell us about, any 275 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:34.240 bad guys out there. 276 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:35.600 I want to help. 277 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:38.399 Three zero three seven one three eight two five five 278 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:39.440 lines are open now. 279 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:42.080 Doc, we were it was funny. 280 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:47.000 It's funny how conversations kind of Uh, they're so fluid. 281 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:48.559 We were talking about. 282 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.360 Stem cell therapy and we were talking about neuropathy, and 283 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:51.879 we're going to. 284 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:52.559 Get back to that. 285 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:55.480 But I asked you a question because we were talking 286 00:13:55.480 --> 00:14:00.200 about Elon Musk and Trump, and I said, I think 287 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:04.879 Eline does some hallucinatives occasionally. And you said that you 288 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:06.960 read that he was doing ketamine. 289 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:11.639 Statement that I read that he had met a statement 290 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:16.080 that that nobody really understood just how much ketamine he 291 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.440 was using while he was working in the White House. 292 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.279 Really, yes, And ketamine we were talking about is a 293 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:23.679 veterinarian drug. 294 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:25.720 It's a tranquilizer. 295 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:26.480 It's a yeah. 296 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:28.879 But don't they like give it to animals before they 297 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:32.240 put them to sleep. That's what gets them to the 298 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:34.759 point where they're at least comfortable. Then they hit him 299 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:38.919 with the death or before surgery, yes, or before surgery. So, 300 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:42.960 but the interesting part is you said, people actually go 301 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:44.679 into some form of therapy. 302 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:46.440 Now, yeah, just ketmine. 303 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:48.840 There's ketamine therapy that's out there. Now I'm not an 304 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:50.679 expert on this at all. I just want to make 305 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.600 that clear, but there are clinics that offer ketamine therapy. 306 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:56.000 So you you would. 307 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:58.240 Sit down in theory, I mean, like you said, you 308 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:02.879 guys don't do this, but excuse me, and you sit 309 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:06.240 there with what a shrink and the shrink actually shoots 310 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.799 you up, and then you have a conversation. I mean, 311 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:11.559 what from what you do know of it, what does 312 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:12.240 that look like? 313 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.360 From what I do know of that is there's a 314 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:19.399 therapist involved in, probably somebody with a medical license, because 315 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:23.279 it does need to be administered intravenously, and they get 316 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:27.480 an intravenous drip of ketamine and then they go into 317 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:32.879 you know, a hallucinatory or a you know, a status. 318 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:34.879 Do you think there's benefits to that? 319 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:39.279 From what I've seen, my personal thoughts are that I 320 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.879 don't necessarily think so okay, I think that it's it's 321 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:46.200 you know, it's quasi medicine. A lot of stuff that's 322 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:47.240 it's quasi medicine. 323 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:48.840 But it sounds like people that just want to get 324 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:50.600 high to me. But I don't know. 325 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.360 I don't have PTSD, I don't suffer from different things 326 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.639 that that might help. Because in our conversation, I said, well, 327 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:01.879 in Denver, aren't mushrooms like they're doing therapies with mushrooms 328 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:05.600 now we're microdosing. Well, you said there might be a 329 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:08.240 benefit to that or some of the research you've read, Well, I. 330 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:10.559 Have more experience speaking with patients who have undergone that 331 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:14.720 type of therapy, and from what I've gathered. People do 332 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:18.399 get a benefit, particularly when they're dealing with psychological trauma 333 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:20.879 PTSD in particular. 334 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.320 Just to help them talk about it better, or it 335 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:27.960 helps them to actually understand the trauma better, therefore making 336 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:29.159 their lives a little better. 337 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.120 Understanding why they're not feeling good, I don't. 338 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:35.559 Really know, but I would say that most likely what's 339 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:38.559 occurring is that they're able to process and talk through 340 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.240 the trauma in a way that resets their brain so 341 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.799 that they're not experiencing the panic attacks and those other 342 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:47.759 types of things that go along with PTSD. 343 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.840 So years ago I was on I mean twenty five 344 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:56.559 years ago, I was getting some anxiety and I was 345 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:01.200 on what was that stuff called Suzanne Uzanna asked, And it. 346 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:02.519 Was only for a couple months. 347 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:07.119 And I talked to this one therapist, okay, and I said, 348 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.519 what do you think about Xenix? I said, simply is that, 349 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:12.119 I said, just give me your thoughts on it. And 350 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:14.480 she says, I think he gives you more anxiety. 351 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:15.720 I said, well, what does that mean? 352 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:18.480 She goes, well, you have anxiety, you take it, the 353 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.799 anxiety goes away, and you start building up a tolerance. 354 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:23.720 So you got to take more of it when you 355 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:27.119 take more of it, and as the medication is wearing off, 356 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.680 you get more anxiety and more anxiety. So I just 357 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:32.759 got off of it twenty five years ago after only 358 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:35.880 two months on it, because I truly bought in to 359 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:39.160 exactly what she was saying, like, if you're on something 360 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:42.200 like that long term, and I you know, I'm not 361 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.559 an MD, I'm not a doctor, but just from that 362 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:48.839 personal experience, I do believe that, and I think some 363 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:53.200 of that could be true with children. I think a 364 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.519 lot of people put kids on drugs at a very 365 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.279 young age now, and I don't think it's beneficial. I'm 366 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:02.519 not saying it's beneficial to everybody, but I think it's 367 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:07.400 kind of crazy to treat kids that have depression or 368 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:09.640 something with drugs at an early age. 369 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.599 I would agree with that, Yeah, I would agree wholeheartedly 370 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:12.960 with that. 371 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.319 Yeah, and I think it does some doc, what do 372 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:17.599 you think you've delivered a thousand babies? 373 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:21.599 I think treating young children with drugs unless it's absolutely 374 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:25.680 necessary is not a good idea. The brain is still forming. Yeah, 375 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:29.960 and I'm not a child psychiatrist, but I don't think that. 376 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:32.440 And I'm not saying there's some that don't need it. 377 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:34.920 No, but I think for the most part, unless it's 378 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.880 absolutely necessary, you don't want to mess around the formation 379 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:40.319 of your brain, which is going to last you for 380 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:42.519 hopefully eighty five ninety years. 381 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:44.680 I'd love to talk to someone that's been on some 382 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:48.359 of the psychedelics that it's actually done good for PTSD. 383 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.160 I mean real cases, because I just okay, I've done mushrooms, 384 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:57.000 of course, recreationally years ago in my twenties. I ha looms. 385 00:18:57.079 --> 00:18:59.880 I tripped my ass off. I didn't learn anything, But 386 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:02.440 I don't think it's the same. 387 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.440 I don't think it's quick the same in how they're 388 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:06.880 being used today in a therapeutic kind of. 389 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.640 I can't even imagine sitting down and talking to a 390 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:13.640 psychologist or a psychiatrist with the amount of mushrooms. 391 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:15.119 I'd make no sense. 392 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.759 Well, you know, there's probably amongst the listening audience today 393 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:20.599 a couple of folks who have undergone this type of 394 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:23.279 therapy because of how popular it's become. You know, hopefully 395 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:24.960 one of them will call in and tell us about 396 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:25.519 their experience. 397 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:29.039 Now let's dive back into the neuropthy So you guys 398 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:32.960 are now treating neuropthy basically on the foot and foot 399 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:34.359 only at this time, No. 400 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:36.599 That we actually treat it in the hands as well, 401 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:40.039 and she crepends to be that that foot neuropathy seems 402 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:42.240 to be a very common thing that people are getting, 403 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.799 and people are desperate for relief of that because it, 404 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:47.519 you know, you can't really walk very well. 405 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:50.079 Well, I'm such a layman in this and I've understood 406 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:52.440 a lot more of it just talking to you, because 407 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:54.559 before I was going to be talking about this product, 408 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:57.200 I had to understand it. And we sat down outside 409 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:59.839 of the show and we talked for a long time. Yeah, 410 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.720 the nerve damage, the nerve damage is generally caused and 411 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:04.960 please correct me as I go. 412 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:08.599 With diabetes, it's the sugar build up. 413 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.799 Right, The majority of our patients that come to us 414 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.240 for foot neuropathy issues are suffering foot and oropathy as 415 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:17.000 a result of diabetes. 416 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:20.359 Now, when we talk about suffering it because of diabetes, 417 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:24.799 if the diabetes is managed properly and your sugar levels 418 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.519 are not high at any given time, you're not going 419 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:27.920 to have. 420 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:30.160 That build up. If you add the perfect diet. 421 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:35.000 You know, I don't even know what the perfect diet 422 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:38.160 looks like, but let's just say, the perfect diet for 423 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:42.039 someone that's diabetic, they're basically eating meat and cheese and 424 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:46.119 the little vegetables whatever looks good for that, then they're 425 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:47.880 not going to have the neuropathy issue. 426 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:48.559 Is that correct? 427 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:51.519 Well, it's going to minimize those effects over the long term, 428 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:51.839 you know. 429 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:53.519 These these but it's still going to build up. 430 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:56.039 It sort of depends on what age you're going to 431 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:58.599 experiencing these types of conditions. 432 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:00.640 So the sugar builds up, and why does it go 433 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.319 to the extremities. Why are those the first nerves generally 434 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:06.599 to get damage because it's harder to flow the blood. 435 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:07.920 That's part of it, you know. 436 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:10.200 And also they're the smallest nerves because there are the 437 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:12.160 nerve endings at the end of your fingers and at 438 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.039 the end of your foot, and they're the furthest to 439 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.799 reach with blood flow. So the sugar build up also 440 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:20.920 builds up inside of the nerve and it starts to 441 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.759 damage the nerve and that's when you start to get 442 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:25.759 the tingling and numbness and pain, and that inflammation starts 443 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:27.839 to damage the blood vessels around it. 444 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:31.440 And when you say damage, literally damage shut them down, 445 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:35.920 shut them down, so and then I can't understand what 446 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.400 it feels like because I've never suffered it. I have 447 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:43.440 typed a lot, and I might feel some carpal tunnels. 448 00:21:43.799 --> 00:21:45.519 Sometimes I assume it does. 449 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:51.880 Not feel like that burning, tingling, numbness, sharp sharp, you know, lightning, 450 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:55.119 like real pay what we call lancinating pain in medicine. 451 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:57.319 Sharpenesses that come and go generally with people. 452 00:21:57.279 --> 00:21:59.720 Interm it can it progresses over time. 453 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.240 So it might start off as with some tingling and 454 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:05.119 numbness that comes and goes, and then turn into pain 455 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.799 tingling and numbness that comes and goes, and then turn 456 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.359 into numbness. 457 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:10.960 Like when your footfalls asleep. 458 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:14.559 Maybe correct, correct, but it's like constant even when you're walking. 459 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:15.960 That could be happening. 460 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:16.920 As it progresses. 461 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:18.640 Yes, you know, and that's when we see our patients 462 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.519 when walking is really becoming uncomfortable and becoming an issue. 463 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:22.000 I got it. 464 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:25.519 That's when it just flares up. Occasionally they're not calling anybody. 465 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:29.039 Yeah, you can manage it with other things, but you know, 466 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.599 once it gets to the point where you're not able 467 00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:36.200 to walk around comfortably, there's very few long lasting solutions 468 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:38.319 that are out there, other than the types of treatments 469 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:39.240 that we offer with Richard. 470 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:40.920 Okay, hold on, I got to take this break. Three 471 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.400 oh three seven one three eight two five five. 472 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:45.119 I'd love to talk to you. Three oho three. 473 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:52.440 Martino, three zero three Martino. We're going to dive back 474 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.200 into that neuropathy, but I promise I'm always going to 475 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:57.720 take the calls first when you've been ripped off or 476 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:01.759 taken advantage of. But seriously, what we dive back into this, 477 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:05.079 what these guys at Denver Region are doing, if you 478 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:08.720 suffer suffer from their opathy, is going to be amazing. 479 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:10.960 And wait till you hear the results on it. But hey, 480 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:12.759 will what's going on with this engine? 481 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:17.440 Man? Oh? I bought a bought an engine from a guy. 482 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:22.400 It was a flathead for old Ford and uh howing 483 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:24.480 up and I met with him. He had an engine 484 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:26.440 there ready to go. So I just made deal with 485 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:29.240 him there and bought it. But it was I wanted 486 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:31.160 it a different color, So who's going to paint it? 487 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:32.519 And then I was going to pick it up the 488 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:33.079 next week? 489 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:34.519 What was that in? 490 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.319 What was that? What was that vehicle in? I'm sharing 491 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:39.519 what was that engine going into? I'm just curious. 492 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.400 It's for a forty one Ford pickup. 493 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:45.640 Wow, that's pretty cool man. Have you been rebuilding the 494 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.240 whole thing and the engine's the last part? Or tell 495 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:49.240 me about the vehicle. 496 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:56.079 Well, it was my STEP's father's truck and he wanted 497 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.160 to he wanted to get it running again with the 498 00:23:58.200 --> 00:23:59.400 motor and it was locked up. 499 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.039 So why did they get why did they stop? 500 00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:03.240 I don't remember. 501 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.400 I know they're sought after, but why did they quit 502 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:08.920 making the flathead? Did it just not work? I thought 503 00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:11.720 they quit making it like in the fifties, but they 504 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.000 had like a twenty year or thirty year run on it. 505 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:17.799 Yeah, they had a good run, but you know it's 506 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:18.359 just junk. 507 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:21.240 Or they just came up with better technology. 508 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:23.839 Better technology, more power. 509 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:26.039 Got it. So you bought this from an individual? 510 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:30.240 Yeah, well it was a shop, Go cat Speech shop. 511 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:32.039 Is that in Denver? Where is it? 512 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:34.039 That's an anglewood? 513 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.599 Yeah, go Cats speed Shop. 514 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.880 So when you bought it, what was the condition represented as. 515 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:44.720 It was on the engine stand ready to go? It 516 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:45.720 was just the wrong color. 517 00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:49.640 Oh okay, so it's the wrong color then what and 518 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.480 forgive my ignorance here, but can't you just spray paint it? 519 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:52.759 Or no? 520 00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:55.039 Well that was the plan? 521 00:24:55.359 --> 00:25:00.440 Okay, So what happened been, Oh, well. 522 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.519 I got every produce in the book. He was to 523 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.720 paint it, and then this happened. That happened, And. 524 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:07.000 Did you pay for it? 525 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.599 To me? One day? I paid for it. I won't 526 00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:11.559 know if he'd build if I'd be okay if he 527 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:13.680 sold it to somebody else and built me a better one. 528 00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:16.480 And I wasn't in a hurry at the time. I thought, 529 00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:20.079 well for the same price, but how much was Yeah, 530 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:22.000 seventy five hundred bucks. 531 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.799 So you walked into Gokat's speech shop and you gave 532 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.440 them basically seventy five hundred for a particular engine they 533 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.480 had in stock. And then you didn't like the color 534 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:35.319 of it, so he was going to spray paint it. 535 00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:39.359 Meantime someone else wanted to buy it. He calls you up, 536 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:43.039 You agree to that, and that engine's gone. Now how 537 00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.079 long has it been? How long have you been waiting 538 00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:48.359 for the second one? 539 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.160 I think this started in twenty eighteen. 540 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:52.559 Oh, get out of here. 541 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.480 You're telling me you paid in seventy five hundred dollars 542 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.720 in twenty eighteen and you still don't have an engine. 543 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:01.960 Don't have an engine. I've gotten case. 544 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:07.640 Will Will there's no exaggeration here. Seriously, in two thy eighteen, 545 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.680 when did you agree that he could sell that other 546 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:12.759 one and he was going to build you a better one? 547 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:17.079 What year was that, ar, I'm. 548 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:18.920 Sorry, same year. 549 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:20.480 It was a couple of weeks after so. 550 00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:23.680 In twenty eighteen. So what do they say right now? 551 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:25.920 If I call them up right now and say, where 552 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:29.839 the hell's Will's engine he bought in twenty eighteen for 553 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.079 seventy five hundred dollars that you haven't delivered, what would 554 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:34.319 they possibly say? 555 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:36.039 Hey? 556 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.480 Anything he could think of. I've got every excuse from 557 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.079 the book machine shops or back to parts around, backed up, 558 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:43.640 backed up. 559 00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.599 It's been eight years. 560 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:48.160 Yeah, it's been a long time. 561 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:53.559 Hold on a second, this is nuts. This is absolutely wild. 562 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:54.039 Hold on. 563 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:00.920 I thought I would going to be able to get 564 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.720 through the day without having a conniption. But I'm having 565 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.160 a hard time believing what I'm hearing from Will. He 566 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:13.000 said in twoenty eighteen, he gives his company Go Cat 567 00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:19.839 Speed Shop gocatspeedshop dot com. Actually, so Go Cat Speed 568 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:24.200 Shop takes seventy five hundred bucks. The engine, the flathead 569 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:26.240 was not the color he wanted. So the guy was 570 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:28.279 just gonna spray paint it. That's not a big deal. 571 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:32.319 And in the introm, the guy calls up and says, hey, 572 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.279 I got another buyer from this. How about if I 573 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:36.519 sell this one, then I don't have to paint it 574 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.359 to this other guy, and I'll build you one that's 575 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:44.599 even better. And then, all of a sudden, and I 576 00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.559 jokingly say, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, 577 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.880 eight years later, this guy still doesn't have an engine. 578 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:54.480 So will when I call up during the break and 579 00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:58.240 I'm gonna have Kelly call up, He's simply gonna make excuses. 580 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:00.119 What do you want at this point? Do you want 581 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:00.880 your money back? 582 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:02.960 Uh? 583 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.559 Well, anything would be ideal. 584 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:06.839 I mean, is there. 585 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.599 Anything I'm missing that he's going to bring up? In 586 00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:11.839 other words, is he going to say, oh, well I 587 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.960 offered him this, this and this, but he didn't want it. 588 00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.920 No, I've asked for my money back. I've asked for, 589 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.400 you know, my my engine to be built. Of course, 590 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:24.799 I asked him to just return because I took after 591 00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:26.880 this all happened, I ended up with some extra block, 592 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.160 but I took him three engine blocks just to help 593 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.359 him out. Here's three blocks if you need. 594 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:34.319 Them, And he still wouldn't start with yours and rebuild them. 595 00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.799 No, he keeps telling me. Well, he kept telling me. 596 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.559 You know, it's waiting on the machine shop. I need heads. 597 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:43.880 The heads are hard to find, this and that, and it. 598 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.359 Will When was the last time I spoke to him? 599 00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.920 And what was the last conversation? What excuse did he 600 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.799 give you the very last time you spoke to him? 601 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:55.200 Let me look at my text messages here and I'll 602 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:56.000 tell you, because. 603 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.640 Yeah, roughly how long ago? Well, if you're looking at 604 00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:00.160 tax tiles, frankly. 605 00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:03.039 I think it was in January. 606 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:03.759 So this year. 607 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:05.759 And what did he say? And what did you say? 608 00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:06.920 I'm curious. 609 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:10.039 He said he'd get me a flathead by mark. They'll 610 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.200 get or get you paid back by June. Had a 611 00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:15.519 re few Month's been sixty times in a row. It's 612 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:16.960 December is getting caught up. 613 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.480 So it's always something like that. He's always sick or 614 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.160 there's always a problem, I mean. 615 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:26.119 Always, yeah, yeah, always always. This is crazy. 616 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.200 How does someone justify in their own mind keeping seventy 617 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.160 five hundred dollars in doing absolutely nothing, not a damn 618 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:38.640 thing for eight years. I just can't even wrap my 619 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:43.240 head around this one. Eight years, this guy's gotta be okay. 620 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:47.319 In my opinion at this point, he's a thief. That's 621 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.440 just my opinion. Kelly, I want to try to get 622 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:53.440 this guy on the air. I mean, I don't know 623 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.480 what else to say right now. I mean, I'm really 624 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.039 hoping there is another side to this story, because this 625 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:09.920 is crazy. Eight years later, eight years I can't. 626 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:10.759 Even wrap my head around it. Eight years. I mean 627 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.400 that's like before and after COVID. 628 00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:15.640 How I know I'm jumping the gun a little bit. 629 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:18.119 How does small claims work after that? I mean, eight 630 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:20.240 years later, you don't have your money, you don't have. 631 00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:23.359 Guys still the guy's still promising him as in change. 632 00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:27.240 That would be like no limitations of time then on that. 633 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:29.440 Right now, this is the kind of one. 634 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.200 What we really have to do is get all the 635 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:37.039 listeners involved today on this one. But Kelly's gonna try 636 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.839 to get this guy on. Kelly, pick up talk to Will. 637 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.279 Get the guy's phone number. Apparently they're texting, so he's 638 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:45.519 got a cell phone. 639 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:45.839 For this guy. 640 00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:50.240 Get the owner's name, get the cell phone number, try 641 00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.960 to get this guy on. There's got to be another 642 00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.279 side to this story. Three zero three seven one three 643 00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.400 eight two five five. And if there's not, I mean, 644 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.680 I just want to light the guy up. I mean, 645 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:07.599 I can't imagine under any circumstance, eight years, seventy five 646 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:08.559 hundred dollars. 647 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:10.960 It's absolutely mind blowing. 648 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:17.720 I'm really I'm hoping, I'm praying that there is another side. 649 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:18.720 To this story. 650 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.559 There has to be. There has to be. We've got 651 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.480 that and a lot more coming up. We've got three 652 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:28.200 hours to go three oh three seven one three eight 653 00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.839 two five five. You can email us at help at 654 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.680 troubleshooter dot com. We're gonna try to get that owner 655 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.920 on during the break. I honestly hope he comes on. 656 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.559 He said he'd get this guy paid back if it 657 00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.079 wasn't done by March, he'd haven't paid back in June, 658 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.880 and just more and more and more excuses. 659 00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:47.079 It looks like. 660 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.319 Kelly might be talking to him right now, so I'm 661 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.480 really curious where that's gonna go. We're also gonna dive 662 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:57.079 into the neuropathy and how to treat it and how 663 00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.400 to get rid of that pain and for people that 664 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.640 suffer from it. It sounds like the most horrible thing 665 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.480 in the world. And I think you're really gonna love 666 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:09.240 what we can tell you about this new therapy from 667 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:13.319 Denver Region. Get those calls in three oh three seven 668 00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.279 one three eight two five five three zero three. 669 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.839 Martino. Hold tight, We're gonna be back right after this 670 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:47.400 ripped news, so you don't have. 671 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:50.319 Come running. 672 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:51.960 Just as as can. 673 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.160 Shooter's gonna help come. 674 00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:01.960 This is the Troubleshooter Show, No, Tom Martino. 675 00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.960 We welcome my friends to the only show that it's kind. 676 00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:07.319 We're here to solve problems, answer questions, take complaints, try 677 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:07.960 to make. 678 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.440 Your life just a little bit better. 679 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.119 If you've been ripped off or taken advantage of h 680 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.200 we want to hear from you, and I mean that 681 00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.240 we are here to help you recoup money. In fact, 682 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:22.039 we've done over three hundred million dollars cash, merchandise exchanges, 683 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.599 refund services. I think you get the idea directly due 684 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:28.240 to the show. Of course, we don't charge anything. I've 685 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.359 got deputies standing by if you got a problem. Three 686 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.039 oh three, I got three lines open three oh three 687 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.960 seven to one three eight two five five three zero 688 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.079 three Martino. I got deputy docs Whu's Andersen Studio with me, 689 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.319 and then we have doctor Joel Cherdak. We're going to 690 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.000 be talking to about neuropathy and different things that Denver 691 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.240 Regen does. Shannon, of course, operating the board over there, 692 00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.599 and Kelly answering your calls three zero three seven to one, 693 00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:01.039 three eight two five five. Kelly Will called in. I'm 694 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:02.960 going to recap real quick. I saw you on the 695 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:03.640 phone over there. 696 00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:04.039 Yeah. 697 00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.159 Will called in and said, Hey, I went down to. 698 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:11.760 Go Cat Speed Shop and their website, by the way, 699 00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:16.719 is go Cat Go Cat speedshop dot com. 700 00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:18.039 And I gave the. 701 00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:21.079 Guy seventy five hundred bucks for an engine, a flathead engine, 702 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:22.880 and it was the wrong color. 703 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:24.400 So he was going to paint it for me. 704 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.880 Before he got it finished painting it, or before he started, 705 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:31.800 he called me up and basically said, hey, I can 706 00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:34.880 sell this to somebody else and rebuild you an even 707 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:39.320 better one. And Will the caller actually agreed to that. 708 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:45.360 And here's the kicker. That was in two thousand and eighteen. 709 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.320 Think about that. That was in twenty eighteen. Here we 710 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:54.840 are seven eight years later and this guy still doesn't 711 00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.519 have an engine. The last time we'll talk to him 712 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.800 or communicated was in January, and the guy said, hey, 713 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.400 I'll have it to you by March or I'll give 714 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:05.679 you your money in June. 715 00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:07.000 Is that all correct? 716 00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:07.320 Will? 717 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:09.079 Yep? 718 00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:12.440 So, Kelly, you called over? Who did you call? Who 719 00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:17.079 is the owner? Eric Brown? Eric Brown? Did Eric Brown 720 00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:18.199 pick up the phone? 721 00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:22.280 He did not, and unfortunately it did go to voicemail. However, 722 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.320 his mailbox is full and is not accepting messages. 723 00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.480 Is that just his cell phone number? 724 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:27.800 Will? 725 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:29.079 Is there another number? 726 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:33.599 He might answer, That's the only number that I've found 727 00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:34.039 for him? 728 00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.119 Is it that seven two zero two eight four seventeen 729 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:42.639 ninety Yep, that's it. That's the only one we have. 730 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:46.320 That's the one on his website too. You know this 731 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.519 is crazy. So you can't even leave a message, right, Kelly? 732 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:50.480 I could not. 733 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.880 His mailbox is full. So mailbox is full. Listen this. 734 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.360 People think, oh, Mark, this might be a little premature. 735 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.960 Why are you giving this guy free advertising? 736 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.719 I'll tell you why. 737 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:06.519 I'm gonna give Gokat speech shop free advertising. 738 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.199 Because this was in twenty eighteen. 739 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.800 This guy gave him seventy five hundred dollars seventy five 740 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.960 hundred dollars according to Will, and here we are seven 741 00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:21.760 plus years later, and you have nothing right Will, nothing 742 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:22.440 at all. 743 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:25.480 Bad? Taste in my mouth. 744 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:27.159 Well, yeah, a. 745 00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.800 Bad taste in your mouth and your bank account seventy 746 00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:30.920 five hundred bucks later. 747 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:32.719 Hey, well, have you gone down there in person? 748 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:36.960 You know I've been up there a couple times, but 749 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:38.239 not in a few years. 750 00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:41.039 What's the shop look like? You just said, a hell hole? 751 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.440 Is it a nice looking place? Do you think this 752 00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.239 guy's got a pot to piss on? You think he's 753 00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:47.760 got any assets. 754 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.159 Got anything in the shop like a Oh, it's got 755 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.800 a warehouse type setup over himself. 756 00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:56.920 What's the guy's name again? Give me the guy's name, Eric? 757 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.760 What Brown? Eric? 758 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.000 And he's the owner as far as you know of 759 00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:04.679 Go Cat Speedshop. 760 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.199 Why don't you go down and tell him that you 761 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:11.719 talk to us and that if he doesn't answer, he's 762 00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:15.199 gonna get a lot of negative publicity and maybe put 763 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:15.760 on the sleep. 764 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.559 Yeah, he's getting it right now, because I mean, yeah, 765 00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.320 Sleaves brigade'll be next step. And if you're new to 766 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.079 the show, go visit Sleas Brigade. I'm going to tell 767 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.400 you something about it. It is one of the most 768 00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.639 powerful tools I've ever seen out there. 769 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.039 You know, there was one guy that. 770 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.199 If you even even came close to googling his name 771 00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:39.320 or his roofing company, Sleaves Brigade, was the first thing 772 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.960 that would pop up, and sure enough, it basically ruined. 773 00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.679 The guy's life. And this guy, Will, I don't care. 774 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.280 I have never heard of so many excuses, will you said? 775 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:54.000 This guy has had. What's the weirdest excuse he's given you? 776 00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:57.800 I get I'm sick, and I'm sure during COVID it 777 00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.400 was probably everything was he was sick. But what else 778 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.920 has he told you over the last seven years? 779 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:11.840 His mom was sick, and the whole parts shops not 780 00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.840 being able to get good box and had finished his 781 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.880 buddy's dragster and. 782 00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:19.480 Hey, give me a favorite Kelly. 783 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.000 Well, she's on the line there, hold line, Will I 784 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.360 just want to check in on something before I have 785 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:29.440 our listeners help you and myself out trying to get 786 00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:33.079 in touch with Eric Brown, the apparent owner of Gokat 787 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:33.920 speed Shop. 788 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:35.480 And I'm taking. 789 00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.559 This and everything I say at this point I want 790 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.519 you to understand is my opinion. This is definitely my opinion. 791 00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:44.360 Why do I say that because I'm not positive this 792 00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:48.480 guy's a scumbag, sucking, fleabag piece of crap. I'm not 793 00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.920 positive about that. That is what I call an opinion. 794 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:58.679 Seventy five hundred dollars over a seven plus year period 795 00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:05.519 issolutely ridiculous, and I can't imagine what excuse he possibly 796 00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:09.320 has now it was supposed to be done March of 797 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:12.599 this year was the last promised date, or he was 798 00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.320 going to pay the money back. Where's the guy's money at? 799 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:18.199 You can't even leave him a message. We did try 800 00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.639 to reach out to Eric Brown at Go Cat Speed shop. 801 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:27.079 This is absolutely crazy and will you must have the 802 00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.840 patience of a saint, because I could have never dealt 803 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.000 with this for seven years. I mean I would probably 804 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.920 be camped out at his shop. In fact, I'm wondering 805 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.280 if we get Deputy Dmitri or Bo or someone to 806 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.559 go down and talk to him at his shop and 807 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.159 figure out what's really going on down there. 808 00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:49.039 Yeah, I live a few hours away, so it's not like. 809 00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:51.760 Where do you live? What do you mean you live 810 00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:52.840 a few hours away? 811 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:55.639 I live out in Brush, northeast Coste. 812 00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:57.880 Okay, I get it. You truly do live a few 813 00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:58.480 hours away. 814 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.000 You know what, maybe we were by this place and 815 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.559 see what's going on down there. I mean that might 816 00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:05.960 be the way to go. That might seriously be the 817 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.960 way to go. What is that phone number, Kelly? 818 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:10.480 What is it? 819 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:11.079 It is? 820 00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:16.199 Seven two zero two eight four one seven nine. 821 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:20.639 Zero seven two zero two eight four. 822 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:23.760 One seven nine zero. 823 00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:28.960 Okay, folks, listen Eric Brown. He's the apparent owner of 824 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:33.159 Goat Catz Speed Shop seven two zero two eight four 825 00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:34.119 seventeen ninety. 826 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:34.480 Listen. 827 00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:38.360 I do this for a couple reasons. Number one, we 828 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:40.239 can't even leave him a message. I don't even know 829 00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:42.159 if the guy will answer the phone. I don't know 830 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.800 if he'll talk with us. He's been putting will off 831 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:48.159 for over seven years. That's why I'm doing it. Don't 832 00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:52.239 be crude. Don't say anything that you wouldn't say to 833 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.880 your mother. How's that be nice about it? 834 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:55.280 Say? 835 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.360 When are you going to give will Is money? Or 836 00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.199 when are you going to give him this engine? What 837 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:03.519 is going on with it? I would assume I would 838 00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:07.360 guess that this guy doesn't have the money to give him, 839 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.519 or he possibly would have given it back in the 840 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:14.039 last seven years. For God's sake, three oh three seven 841 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.440 one three A two five five. I want to check 842 00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:20.079 one more thing on this, So Kelly, get either Jeff 843 00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:23.719 vic or get Kevin on with shared an auto tech. 844 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.760 I want to ask them a question about a flat 845 00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:27.840 head engine. 846 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.960 Three oh three seven one three A two five five. 847 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.480 I've got a couple of lines open three zero three Martino, 848 00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:42.280 hold on, I gave the wrong number out. Listen, Eric Brown, 849 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:47.840 go cat speed shop and Suzanne found something very interesting 850 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.400 and hold on one second, because I do have one 851 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.320 of her experts on. Kevin Cokin shared an auto tech. Kevin, 852 00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.519 I just want to ask you something. These flatthead engines 853 00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.159 by Ford. I mean when you send them out to 854 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:03.159 a machine shop. I mean, these aren't brain surgery. You 855 00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:05.039 can go buy one and get it done right. 856 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.639 Well, yeah, and there's really not much in the head, 857 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:10.800 you know what I mean a flathead the valves and 858 00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:11.760 everything in the block. 859 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.039 Well, I guess what I'm asking is is how hard 860 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.719 is it to get one rebuilt if I wanted to 861 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.480 go out and find one. Is it hard to find 862 00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.559 one and get it rebuilt right now? Or are they 863 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:25.719 like impossible to find? I don't understand. 864 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.000 Well, they're all over they're a bud again being rebuilt. 865 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:32.159 They're basically just the cover. There's nothing to rebuild. 866 00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:35.800 Wow, why did they go away? By the way, just 867 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:36.960 to old technology? 868 00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:38.599 Right old technology. 869 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:40.920 Yeah. I mean, but like I said, the block holds 870 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:42.320 the valves and the piston. 871 00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:43.280 That's incredible. 872 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.719 Flat head itself just holds the spark plugs and covers 873 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:47.639 the cylinders. 874 00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.119 Yeah, I was looking at a picture. They're kind of strange. 875 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.880 So if I said, hey, Kevin, go find me one, 876 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:56.280 you probably call me back in an hour and have one. 877 00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:57.320 Well. 878 00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:01.159 Sure, see this is remarked. I just wanted to make 879 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.400 sure Kevin I appreciate that. By the way, Kevin Cokin 880 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.320 shared an auto tech you know, he works on our cars. 881 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:08.119 He's a great guy. 882 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.679 He can do anything you need done, from oil changes 883 00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:17.800 to engine replacements, electrical system problems, alignments, cooling system flushes, 884 00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:19.360 airic conditioning services. 885 00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:21.719 I think you get the idea. They'll save you a 886 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:22.360 ton of money. 887 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.199 Oh and they've got a great warranty as well, three year, 888 00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.079 thirty six thousand miles. Now, will, I'm going to bring 889 00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.719 you back up. I'm going to put this guy on 890 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.880 the sleeves Brigade. I'm going to get with Martino after 891 00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.440 the show, and I'm going to tell you why even 892 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:41.760 though we haven't heard back from this guy yet. Eric Brown, Suzanne, 893 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:43.159 tell me what you found yeah. 894 00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:48.039 So, in searching our call archives, I realize, thanks to Shannon, 895 00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:51.960 thank you, that we'd gotten a call on Eric Brown 896 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.239 at go Cat Speech Shop back last April of twenty 897 00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.159 twenty four from a gentleman named Joe from southern California. 898 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.760 He'd been paying Eric since twenty twenty one, got him 899 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:06.320 paid in full January of twenty twenty three. That's eleven thousand, 900 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:10.519 five hundred and receive nothing. So fast forward to twenty 901 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:15.119 twenty four. Oh, he demanded a refund and Joe did. 902 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.880 The caller did get back one thousand dollars. 903 00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.679 He got back one thousand out of how much. 904 00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.800 It looks like out of eleven thousand, five hundred from 905 00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:25.199 Tommy's notes. 906 00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:27.920 He got one thousand dollars back and paid the guy 907 00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.159 eleven thousand, and he got nothing according to the notes. 908 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:32.760 Do we have that guy's number? 909 00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.360 If Kelly has notes from April of twenty twenty four, 910 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:36.920 we might. 911 00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.079 I doubt it. Kelly. You wouldn't have that, would you. 912 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:40.599 I wouldn't keep notes that long. 913 00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:42.280 I don't think so. 914 00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:43.239 I wish I could. 915 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.519 Will there's another guy. I mean, he got a thousand back. 916 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.440 I'm going to get with tom and I think we 917 00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:51.400 got to put this guy in the Sleeves Brigade. But honestly, 918 00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.039 will make sure we have all your information, and Susan 919 00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:56.719 make sure we update this guy. 920 00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:57.079 Will. 921 00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.400 I want you to hold on, man, because hell, he's 922 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.880 gonna get all your info. I think we're gonna head 923 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:07.119 down there. I might do a live in front of 924 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.679 his shop. I have fun, I haven't done that for 925 00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.719 a while. I might go down there and do a 926 00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.840 live in front of his shop and see what's going 927 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:16.719 on with this guy. 928 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:20.239 This is just it's just not right. So we'll hold on. Then. 929 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.480 I think we're gonna get him up on Sleeves Brigade. 930 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.000 But listeners, I would love your help here. I think 931 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.599 I gave the number out wrong. Eric Brown, Go Cat's 932 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:35.559 Speed Shop seven to zero two eight four seventeen ninety. 933 00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:37.760 Please be nice to him. I'm not kidding. 934 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:41.360 Be nice and say, hey, this guy gave you seventy 935 00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:42.480 five hundred. 936 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:46.480 Dollars in twenty eighteen. Where's his money back? 937 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:48.559 You said you were gonna have his engine done by 938 00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:50.920 March after seven years? 939 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:53.519 What is going on? Ask him? 940 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:57.599 Say, Eric Brown, what is going on at Go Cat's 941 00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.440 Speed Shop? We just heard you about on the radio. 942 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.039 They tried to reach out to you, but they can't 943 00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.559 because your voicemails full. And we heard you had other 944 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:13.280 people like who was it Bob Joe Joe in California 945 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.440 that you took eleven thousand. 946 00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.519 From and only refunded them one thousand. 947 00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:24.880 It's absolutely insane, Eric Brown, go catspeedshop dot com. 948 00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:27.239 They're right here somewhere in Inglewood. 949 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.000 And I'm going to figure out something and get down 950 00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:32.840 there and try to meet this Eric Brown seven to 951 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.880 zero two eight four seventeen ninety seven to zero. Be 952 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:41.559 nice call him up if well, we already know you 953 00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.639 can't leave a message, but hopefully if his phone's ringing 954 00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.159 a lot, he'll answer it. And I do this as 955 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.519 a service to Eric two. And you know what, I 956 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:53.639 would love to hear his side of the story. But 957 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.559 in my opinion, if everything Will is saying correct, or 958 00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:01.719 even most of it, for Christ's sake, my god, even 959 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.760 if most of it seventy five hundred dollars and he 960 00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:08.719 hasn't gotten anything in over seven years, Eric, what can 961 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:12.880 you possibly say about that? And he's got text? In fact, 962 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.159 one more question for Will. Prior to that last text 963 00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.000 that you wrote, what was the one before that, not 964 00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.960 the one this year in January? But what was the 965 00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:22.800 one before that? 966 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:26.679 Will we pulled up and I'll tell you, and I 967 00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:28.480 can share all with you if you want. 968 00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:30.480 I do. I do want you to share them. I 969 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:31.599 do want you to share them. 970 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:34.119 Kelly will give you an email to send him to 971 00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:36.320 and I would like you to share them. 972 00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.800 Do they go back to that twenty eighteen? 973 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.000 I got a different phone, so I think I go 974 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.039 back as far as twenty nineteen. 975 00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.559 Okay, twenty nineteen. I mean, this is so absurd. I 976 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:48.800 can't believe we're thinking. 977 00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:51.719 Of these dates. I can't believe. 978 00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.039 This guy and you heard that other one we had. 979 00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:56.880 But what was the very not the very last one 980 00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:58.360 this year right before that? 981 00:47:58.480 --> 00:47:59.119 When was it. 982 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.320 That one was back in November? November fourth? 983 00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:07.840 And what was that conversation like November fourth with Eric 984 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.440 Brown of Go Cat Speed Shop. 985 00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.119 Basically, he's broke, can't afford anything. 986 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:21.000 So he's broken, can't afford anything. Well, don't say basically 987 00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:21.559 what does it? 988 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.440 Literally say, let me just treat. 989 00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.719 It to you. I asked him about my engine. He said, 990 00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:29.920 now it's more complicated. It'll get you an engine before 991 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:33.079 the end of the year. Hopefully by Thanksgiving close to 992 00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:35.960 being on the street. Because of its economy, I'm now 993 00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:38.320 in a Peter and Paul situation. I can't even pay 994 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.599 my bills for this my next I have a balance 995 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.239 coming up on another block, plus some other projects soon, 996 00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:46.760 but right now it's really really bad. The pistons on 997 00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.599 that block are very domed. Every set of heads. I've 998 00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.920 tried hits to find someone with a special cutter or 999 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.199 just assemble the next block for you, which is what 1000 00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:57.480 I'll probably have to do. I don't want to be 1001 00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:01.360 anybody's enemy. I honestly want get that cloud cleaned up, 1002 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.280 and you know showing it. 1003 00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:05.360 That's fine, that's set. You don't have to read it. 1004 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.719 It's just one thing after another. I love how he 1005 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:11.280 actually admits he's robbing Peter to pay Paul. You know what, 1006 00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:14.920 there is a Contractor's Trust Act, and that would extend 1007 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.760 in my opinion. In my opinion, it's not a legal 1008 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.199 opinion to a shop into your position. You put seventy 1009 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.400 five hundred dollars down that is for your job and 1010 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:28.239 your job only, And he is admitting right there he 1011 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.920 is using your money or has used your money for 1012 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.199 someone else's thing, and you're not allowed to do that. 1013 00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:37.960 I think we also need to reach out to the DA. 1014 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:42.440 I want to get Dmitri on this. Dmitri, if you're listening, 1015 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:46.480 I want you to reach out to the district attorney 1016 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.800 wherever this Goat Cat Speed Shop is and I'm going 1017 00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:53.800 to have all the text. But this guy just acknowledged. 1018 00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.880 In my opinion, this guy just acknowledge that he's a thief. 1019 00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:03.440 That's right. When you stee from somebody to pay somebody else, 1020 00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:08.400 you are a thief. In my opinion, Eric Brown, I 1021 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:11.800 believe you're a thief. That's my opinion of Goat Cat 1022 00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:16.880 Speed Shop seven to zero two eight four seventeen ninety. 1023 00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.519 Please be nice when you reach out to him. I 1024 00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:20.280 am not kidding. 1025 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:24.199 This is absolutely ridiculous and it's not the first time 1026 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:27.199 we have had this same guy with same issues. 1027 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:29.239 Joseph, you're up after this. 1028 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:36.199 I'm going to take my blood pressure meds. 1029 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:37.039 I'm Jr. 1030 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:42.159 From the Road has a comment on Cat Speed Shop. 1031 00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.199 Go ahead, Hey, Mark, if you. 1032 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:48.719 Recall that phone call in November or whatever of last year, 1033 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:51.360 the guy that called you said that this he met 1034 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.719 this guy at all the Hot Rods shows. So as 1035 00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.079 far as asked this. This guy shows up with his 1036 00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:01.079 own hot rods, his flat head BH built out, so 1037 00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:02.280 he does have assets. 1038 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:03.679 But that that guy said. 1039 00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:08.400 He's like a fifty four South Yeah. 1040 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.599 I think I'm gonna head over there. Yeah, I'm gonna 1041 00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:14.880 shoot over there during this show so we can do 1042 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.280 something live. I don't know what day yet. I gotta 1043 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:19.400 kind of get that worked out. 1044 00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:21.800 But he's so he's a flathead guru. 1045 00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:23.800 You know, he's a yeah, I got you, flat head. 1046 00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.039 But the thing is he meets all his victims and 1047 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.280 I'm calling him victims. Yeah, he meets him all after 1048 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.159 car shows, and the car shows are starting to come up. 1049 00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:33.880 You know what's interesting though, met him. 1050 00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:34.960 At the Good Guys. 1051 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.639 Just that text that he wrote to will Uh saying 1052 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.320 I'm robing Peter to pay Paul. I mean literally, he 1053 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:46.079 called himself a thief, like he legitimately called himself a thief. 1054 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:50.440 And I agree with the thief. Hey Jr. I appreciate it. Man. 1055 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.760 Three oh three seven one three A two five five. 1056 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.039 We got one line open. Hey, Joseph, Uh, what's going on? 1057 00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:56.280 Man? 1058 00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:56.639 How are you? 1059 00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:58.159 Joseph? Okay? 1060 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:02.800 Mark? So I know yesterday Tom had a guy on 1061 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:08.440 talking about reverse mortgages. But my question was, is there 1062 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:14.239 such a thing for a reverse mortgage on a farm? 1063 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:16.320 On a farm? 1064 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:17.679 Yeah? 1065 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.320 You know, that's I don't know. That's a very interesting question. 1066 00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:26.400 Hold on se so God has go ahead? 1067 00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.840 It hang on a second mark. So so the. 1068 00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.920 House is on the farm. 1069 00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:37.159 And it's considered a but when I paid the taxes, 1070 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:41.599 it's it's the whole thing. So it's not it's not segregated, 1071 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:42.679 it's the whole thing. 1072 00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.639 Yeah, it's That's what I was gonna kind of ask that. 1073 00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:47.360 But I'm just I'm not going to hesitate. I'm going 1074 00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:48.599 to bring up John Clace. 1075 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:53.440 Hey, John, I loved the question you guys got. 1076 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:55.719 I never thought about it, nor did I ever think 1077 00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.880 a farm. I guess if it's agricultural it could be different. 1078 00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.760 But if it's just a big farm with a house, 1079 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.920 but it's all the same, can you get a reverse 1080 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:08.639 mortgage on that? 1081 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:10.199 What do you know about that? John? 1082 00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:12.920 All the big thing is going to be is that 1083 00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:17.320 a producing farm is an income producing property. Yeah, that's 1084 00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.639 that's the big thing there. Something is income producing properties. 1085 00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:23.679 No, you're not going to be able to get a 1086 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:24.960 reverse mortgage on that. 1087 00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:28.480 If it's a farm and it's not not producing income, 1088 00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.440 and they're like properties around it. Yes, you could, but 1089 00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.800 when it's an income producing they treat that as a 1090 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:36.920 commercial property. 1091 00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:40.559 Hey, let me ask you something, John, how about the 1092 00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:41.719 all in one. 1093 00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:44.559 Same thing. 1094 00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.719 Now, whenever you get a whenever you. 1095 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.639 Get an income producing prop, it's commercial. 1096 00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:53.480 It goes into the commercial side of things. 1097 00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:56.400 So what are his Hey Joseph, why are you trying 1098 00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:59.239 to get cash out a better interest rate? What are 1099 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:02.760 you trying to do with it? What's your circumstance? 1100 00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:03.880 No? 1101 00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:09.199 What, No, it's it's paid for. And I'm sixty seven 1102 00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:14.719 and just kind of want to And I don't have 1103 00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.159 any siblings, I mean not siblings. I'm sorry. I don't 1104 00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:22.239 have any kids, theirs kids. I don't have any kids, 1105 00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:25.559 just me and my wife. So I was just I 1106 00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:29.320 had just thought, well, instead of you know, telling. 1107 00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:34.159 That Joseph, A couple a couple questions the income production 1108 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.000 how much does it produce in a year out of curiosity. 1109 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:39.559 It depends on the year. 1110 00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:40.960 Every year is different, but. 1111 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:44.679 One hundred thousand, give or take. 1112 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:49.280 Well, with that kind of income coming in, why do 1113 00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.159 you need the equity from the reverse? What I mean, 1114 00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.039 I'm trying to kind of understand that. 1115 00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:58.400 I don't need it. I don't I don't need it. 1116 00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.320 But I was just thing that maybe we could do 1117 00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:04.000 some more, you know, enjoy life a little better. 1118 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:05.880 I got it, just a little more income. 1119 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:11.760 You know that hundred thousand mark is not profit, that's grows. 1120 00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:13.880 Oh well, well that's what I was asking. How much 1121 00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:15.119 profit a profit? 1122 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:16.159 Ten? 1123 00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:20.440 Okay, Now let me ask you this, Greg, I don't 1124 00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:24.800 know how much of a headache it is to create 1125 00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:30.360 that ten thousand dollars a year in profit. But if 1126 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:33.559 it's quite a bit of a headache, there's a lot 1127 00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:38.519 other ways to create ten thousand dollars a year. And John, 1128 00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.280 the reason I'm asking them these questions, if it wasn't 1129 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:47.039 income producing, would they be able to do a reverse 1130 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:47.840 mortgage on it? 1131 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.119 Or you still would have to run some numbers or what? 1132 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:52.599 Yeah? 1133 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:55.039 I still run to some numbers, like how big? How 1134 00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:56.320 many acres are we talking? 1135 00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:59.880 Yeah? How big is it described the property? Joseph? 1136 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:01.840 Yeah, it's a few hundred acres. 1137 00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:05.000 Wow, that's that's big. What's it worth? 1138 00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:07.239 Ten million? 1139 00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:09.280 Ten million? 1140 00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.559 How does this guy tap in to that kind of 1141 00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:16.400 equity so him and his wife can go enjoy their sixties, John, 1142 00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:17.760 think outside the box? 1143 00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:20.760 How do you with you? And I assume you don't 1144 00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:21.800 want to sell it? Right? 1145 00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:22.880 No? 1146 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:24.039 No, I don't want to sell it. 1147 00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:24.400 No. 1148 00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:27.960 Would you care about shutting down the farm part of it? 1149 00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:32.159 Not really? 1150 00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:36.360 I mean, yeah, well the other thing too. 1151 00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:40.440 Is there an interest rate on a reverse mortgage? 1152 00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.280 Well of course there is, but I mean I don't 1153 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:45.880 even want to get into that because right now there's no. 1154 00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:48.719 It just doesn't even matter. So John, I'm going to 1155 00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:51.920 go back and pick your brain and anybody out there listening. 1156 00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.159 This guy's got something worth ten million bucks? Where is the. 1157 00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:59.800 Property Kenwell County? She's got how much? Would he say? 1158 00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:03.639 To underacres? 1159 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.800 So you have all this acre to start parceling it off, 1160 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.840 probably get some large chunks of some don't you think 1161 00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:12.440 you might know a little bit more about that than 1162 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:12.679 I do? 1163 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:13.000 Mark? 1164 00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:15.320 But well, yeah, that's what I'm saying, But not at 1165 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.880 LEAs operating it is a farm. I don't know how 1166 00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.840 much of it can you subdivide? And actually if you, 1167 00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.840 if you wanted to, could you actually subdivide and build 1168 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:27.519 a neighborhood? Would they be able to switch it from 1169 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:31.199 agricultural to where you could put up a home, for example, 1170 00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:34.239 or even commercial property with that kind of space. I 1171 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.239 don't know if you've looked into any of those ideas. 1172 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:41.880 Yeah, it's you know, it's it's a process, right of course, 1173 00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:43.760 and it's a big process. 1174 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:44.880 Well, it definitely is. 1175 00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:46.760 What about water? 1176 00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:49.480 You gotta water rights on that property? I mean, that's 1177 00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:52.239 another way to generate some income, you know, gab it? 1178 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:53.679 Yeah? 1179 00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:54.280 True? 1180 00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:55.679 Do you have water rights? 1181 00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:57.000 Yeah? 1182 00:57:57.079 --> 00:57:59.239 Yes, yeah. 1183 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.079 I mean there's a lot, a. 1184 00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:03.840 Lot of a lot of production builders. 1185 00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:05.519 They would do all the work for you. 1186 00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.079 Man, maybe you'd put under contract and they would do 1187 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:11.239 all the zoning all that for you and they you know, you. 1188 00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:12.840 Get paid on when they performed. 1189 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:16.079 But there's there's a lot a lot of that would 1190 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:18.400 do that, now I get it. 1191 00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:22.119 I mean there's you know, and I've been approached by 1192 00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.599 by by several that I've just turned down. 1193 00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:27.199 What's your hesitation on going a route like that. 1194 00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:31.440 Joseph, Well, I just don't want to because then I 1195 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.679 you know, I mean I've had the farm for years 1196 00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:36.639 and years and years and I don't I just don't 1197 00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:38.000 want to. I don't want to sell it. 1198 00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.079 But what are you going to do when you guys pass? 1199 00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:42.199 I mean what what's your plan for it? 1200 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.280 Well, you know, if you're on my it depends on 1201 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:47.880 if you're good on my good side or not. 1202 00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:52.840 Well, listen, man, here's what I'm trying to figure out 1203 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:56.280 from you. Like if you could somehow subdivide it and 1204 00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:58.480 other people are going to take care of all this, 1205 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:03.079 but you keep twenty acres and the house you want 1206 00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.840 to live in. I mean, do you is that something 1207 00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:07.719 you would want to think about? 1208 00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:08.559 Yeah? 1209 00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:10.400 I have, yep, yep, we have. 1210 00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.280 We've also thought about moving. 1211 00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:16.119 You know, there's the state and seemed the law. So 1212 00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:16.960 it's out about that. 1213 00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:17.320 Team. 1214 00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:20.239 Well, let's do this. I'm gonna put you on hold. Man, John, 1215 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.800 I'm gonna keep you up. But uh, Joseph, I want 1216 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:25.760 you to give your info to Kelly. I want to 1217 00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.440 talk to Martino about this. The guy's only developed how 1218 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:33.519 many neighborhoods he develops, Susanna, I mean, hell you you oh. 1219 00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:36.159 Got dozens and dozens Mark over the I. 1220 00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.679 Mean dozens and dozens and they don't have to be 1221 00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:40.199 something like Highland's Ranch. 1222 00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:41.119 I mean you can do. 1223 00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:44.559 Thirty acre parcels where all the homes are nice. Joseph, 1224 00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:47.239 there's so many different things. But I think what we 1225 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:50.960 do because Tom has literally done this. Uh he's done 1226 00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.960 it in Florida, He's done he's done it everywhere. I mean, 1227 00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:57.039 he's going to know, uh, you know, the ins and 1228 00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.639 outs of this, and let's just uh, let's spark up 1229 01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:04.480 that conversation. So Kelly, do me a favor and get 1230 01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:08.360 his information if Joseph wants to share it, and maybe 1231 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:11.280 we reach out and see if we can't figure something 1232 01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:14.199 out for him. And if anybody out there knows John 1233 01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:19.480 real quick at commercial Lending Prospect, what do you think 1234 01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:22.599 is there a commercial product that you know of where 1235 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:23.639 he could tap. 1236 01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:26.800 Into some of that money, some of that equity. He's 1237 01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:27.320 got ten. 1238 01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.000 Million dollars, he doesn't know what penny. There's got to 1239 01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:32.920 be a way to get something, sure it. 1240 01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:35.679 Is, but his issue now you know, he doesn't really 1241 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:36.480 he just kind of. 1242 01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:40.039 Wants the money wants. Realistically, I think this is right 1243 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:42.639 up Tom's alley, and you got if he parcels it off, 1244 01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.840 wants some money, that's the best. Sure commercial lender will 1245 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.079 probably do him something, but then you know, how are 1246 01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:50.239 they going to get paid back? You know that that 1247 01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:53.679 type of thing is because he's really no income coming 1248 01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:57.519 in so he's almost has to tell the some of 1249 01:00:57.519 --> 01:00:59.840 the property and not just do you see what I'm saying. 1250 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:01.679 I know exactly what you're saying. 1251 01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:05.039 It's so interesting, though, I think you're right. 1252 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:08.559 You take a big you take a big chunk of. 1253 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:12.079 It, whatever, one hundred acres, and maybe make a deal 1254 01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:15.119 just on that and have a developer come in and 1255 01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:17.800 basically that's gonna be your money, that's gonna be your 1256 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:20.440 retirement money. And you still own the house, and you 1257 01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.400 still own the farm. But once again with no errors, 1258 01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:25.360 I'm not even sure what he wants to do there. 1259 01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:27.000 But John Clays. 1260 01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:29.719 In fact, John's actually working for my son right now, 1261 01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:31.760 getting them a loan in Nebraska. 1262 01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:33.039 Yeah, I said, in Nebraska. 1263 01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:38.119 These guys at CMG, they are the lender, there's no middleman. 1264 01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:43.800 They lend in every single state in the country. In fact, John, 1265 01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:48.519 what was funny is you weren't licensed in Nebraska, But 1266 01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:50.719 when I reached out to you for the loan from 1267 01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.760 my son, you got yourself licensed, like in a matter 1268 01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:55.960 of a day or two, because you guys are already 1269 01:01:56.159 --> 01:01:57.360 of course in Nebraska. 1270 01:01:57.440 --> 01:01:59.719 You just had to get a temporary or whatever. 1271 01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:03.559 But the best interest rates at all in one reverse mortgages. 1272 01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:08.719 These guys can save you a fortune. Any questions. If 1273 01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:11.719 you have been engaged with another lender and want to 1274 01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:13.639 see if these guys can beat it, you're going to 1275 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:19.119 be very pleasantly surprised. Check out John at Partner in 1276 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.639 Lending dot com, Partner in Lending dot Com or three 1277 01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:26.280 oh three five seven seven seven to two zero six. 1278 01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:31.559 Dmitri's got an update on Go Cat speed Shop. Dmitri, 1279 01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:35.639 that might be the fastest update I've ever heard of. 1280 01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.679 We'll take that after this, and then Greg is the 1281 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:42.239 owner of Diamond G Concrete, and we've got to follow 1282 01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:43.239 up from yesterday. 1283 01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:50.159 Everybody, hold on, I been going through. 1284 01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.280 These texts with this speed shop and I'm going to 1285 01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.599 read some of them. Plus we found a lot more 1286 01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:02.760 information out about these guys. Listen after the break just 1287 01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:05.079 because of the time we had to call yesterday, Bob 1288 01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:10.000 had a problem with a concrete company and the owner 1289 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:13.840 of the company called in with his side of the story, 1290 01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:15.639 and I can't wait to get to that. We love 1291 01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:18.320 when business owners call in. We have found out over 1292 01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:21.400 the years there's always two sides. But Greg Martinez and 1293 01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:23.760 the caller's name was Bob. You guys, we only got 1294 01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:25.760 two minutes now, so we're gonna I'm gonna bring you 1295 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.199 both up right after the news break, so you guys 1296 01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:34.480 please hold on in the intrum. Deputy Dmitri update on 1297 01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.599 Cat's Speed Shop. Wow, man, you dug into that quick. 1298 01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:38.639 What's shake and bacon? 1299 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:40.880 Hey, Mark, I. 1300 01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:43.280 Was driving to my next business meeting and I heard 1301 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:46.840 you mentioned my name, so I called Gokat I got 1302 01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:49.320 I just recently got off the phone with Eric is the. 1303 01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:49.760 Owner of it? 1304 01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.159 Yeah, Eric Brown go Cat's Speed Shop. 1305 01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:56.280 Yeah. So hey, here's what we've decided. 1306 01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:00.400 Basically, the proposal I have for him is, Hey, I'm 1307 01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.199 not going to point a finger at you. I just 1308 01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:02.599 want to. 1309 01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:05.119 Broker a mutual away for you and. 1310 01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:07.199 Will so that he can either get his engine or 1311 01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:09.880 get his money back, and you guys will be done 1312 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:13.159 with each other. So Eric is in the middle of 1313 01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:15.360 all kinds of problems right now. 1314 01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:17.159 And I won't get into them right now. 1315 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.039 But what we agree to is going to happen is this. 1316 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:23.079 He's going to think about how to take care of 1317 01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:24.920 the customer, and he's gonna. 1318 01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.480 Call me either today or tomorrow morning before the show starts. 1319 01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:29.239 At ten with his proposal. 1320 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:32.239 Hey, Dmitri, I love it, but I don't know how 1321 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:35.079 much of the story you heard. But in October he 1322 01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:37.719 was going to pay the guy back by December. In 1323 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.880 January he was going to have the engine done by March, 1324 01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:44.440 or he was going to give the guy his money back. Then, 1325 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:51.800 let's not forget this started in two thousand eighteen, and 1326 01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:56.719 I am now staring at a chain of promises just 1327 01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:01.840 like he just told you, over a seven year period. 1328 01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:05.920 Yeah, I heard the whole story, and I agree with 1329 01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:09.719 everything you just said. And I did not rub his 1330 01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:10.880 nose in any of it. 1331 01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.000 Okay, I said, Look, this is gonna be kind of 1332 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:17.079 a fresh start to solving this problem. Let's just pretend. 1333 01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:20.039 So you think you're gonna hear from them by tomorrow. 1334 01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:23.519 There's a good chance why not. 1335 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:25.800 I mean, no, no, no, I'm saying that's what he 1336 01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:30.400 told you. Though he said tomorrow, yes, today, he said. 1337 01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:31.760 It might be today, it. 1338 01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:32.440 Might be tomorrow. 1339 01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:35.119 Hold on, man, I gotta go to this break Tomitrie, 1340 01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:37.159 good job getting in touch with the guy. 1341 01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:38.760 Hopefully he comes through. 1342 01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:41.599 Creg and Bob, hold tight, you're up next on the 1343 01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:50.840 Troubleshooter Show. 1344 01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:53.360 You don't have. 1345 01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:08.039 Help come, this is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine. Hey, 1346 01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:08.679 welcome to. 1347 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:10.880 The show, the only show of its kind. 1348 01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:14.159 We're here to solve problems, answer questions, take complaints, work 1349 01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:18.159 out disputes, recoup money, go after the bad guys, and 1350 01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:21.480 I'm probably forgetting a lot of other things right now. 1351 01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:23.840 We got lines full, but I'll always let you know 1352 01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:26.280 when the line's open. Three oh three seven one three 1353 01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:30.079 eight two five five. I have gotten three text for 1354 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:32.079 doctor Joel, and I promise I'm going. 1355 01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:32.760 To get to those. 1356 01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.800 They all have to do with neuropathy and their new 1357 01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:38.760 treatment down at Denver Region. So we're going to be 1358 01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:42.000 diving into this. But right now, I've got Greg Martinez on. 1359 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:45.599 We had a call yesterday from Bob. I'm gonna bring 1360 01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:50.400 Bob up real quick. Bob, just to recap what happened 1361 01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:54.360 last year, What actually happened with this concrete job. 1362 01:06:56.239 --> 01:07:01.159 It was this last month. Basically the whole thing started 1363 01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:05.519 off great. Greg is a great concrete guy. He's very knowledgeable. 1364 01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:08.159 He knows this stuff. That's why I hired him, Okay, 1365 01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:12.519 and I think he realizes that. And really the basis 1366 01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:16.960 of your show is, I think ultimately to work out dispute. 1367 01:07:17.119 --> 01:07:20.320 Yeah, it is so, But Bob, what what actually happened? 1368 01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:22.440 Did you give him money down? If so, how much 1369 01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:23.280 did you give down? 1370 01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:28.440 We greg required half down, which was I paid him 1371 01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:32.039 six thousand dollars and two three thousand dollars increment payments. 1372 01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:33.800 And then what was the scope of the work. 1373 01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.440 Scope of the work was the prep work, all the 1374 01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.840 prep work required for some concrete plat work, and there 1375 01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:45.000 was a footer in a stemwall that. 1376 01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.119 He was going to do, got it. So what ultimately 1377 01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:49.719 is the issue right now? 1378 01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:56.360 Well, the issue is that we we got into a dispute. 1379 01:07:56.840 --> 01:07:59.280 The project was put on hold. 1380 01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:04.360 Was that you're doing or his doing it was? 1381 01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:07.239 I think it was a combination of both. 1382 01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:09.239 Fair Enough, I think it was probably. 1383 01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:12.880 A misunderstanding on his part and my inability to communicate 1384 01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:16.079 fully what I was trying to tell him. 1385 01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:18.600 Okay, well tell me what you were trying to tell him. 1386 01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:23.119 Well, there was there was a lot of things that 1387 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:26.680 I felt that needed to be done prior to doing 1388 01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:29.680 the final form work, and pouring one of them was 1389 01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:32.479 a big issue that and it's been uncovered there's a 1390 01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:36.520 lot of extensive route tree roots underneath where the new 1391 01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:40.800 concrete's going to go, so I kind of wanted to 1392 01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.319 put the skins on things to get that taken care of. 1393 01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:46.000 And I also mentioned that there was I was going 1394 01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:48.880 to be about twelve hundred dollars short if he had 1395 01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:51.439 gotten a job done in one week like was on 1396 01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:54.039 a schedule. I was going to be about twelve hundred 1397 01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.520 dollars short. So I said, well, maybe we should push 1398 01:08:56.560 --> 01:09:00.720 that out to next month. And the twenty fourth of 1399 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.880 June kind of popped up because of the funds that 1400 01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:06.119 I can get because I'm trying to do this out 1401 01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:06.560 of pocket. 1402 01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:09.239 Hey Bob, what do you I still really want to 1403 01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:12.800 get to this part. So as of this very second, 1404 01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.560 what is your beef with Greg? What is your beef 1405 01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:16.279 with Diamond? G? 1406 01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:22.079 Well, that he accepted the six thousand and that he 1407 01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:25.079 wasn't able to stay on the job long enough to 1408 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.800 it to at least complete as much work as he 1409 01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:30.399 had been paid to do, and then we would have 1410 01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:33.319 worked at stopped at that point and then worked out, 1411 01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:36.000 you know, completed the ballots of the work, which I 1412 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:39.359 would have paid him in full once it was completed. 1413 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:41.239 So what do you want from him now? 1414 01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:46.760 I would like to work this dispute out and kind 1415 01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:51.439 of backpedal, and you pick up where we left off 1416 01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:54.800 with a good relationship and try to get this job 1417 01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:58.880 done and everybody will get paid. I'll be a satisfied customer. 1418 01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:00.000 Everybody's going to be happy. 1419 01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:03.560 Well okay, well then hold on here. So I've got 1420 01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.239 of course, ask Greg Martinez. First of all, he's the 1421 01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.680 owner of Diamond G Concrete. We appreciate you calling and 1422 01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:10.680 returning our call. 1423 01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:13.680 Greg. So you kind of heard where Bob's at? Where 1424 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:14.640 are you at in this? 1425 01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:18.199 Is it possible that I can. 1426 01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:22.000 Read what really went down? Yeah? Of course you can go. 1427 01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:23.720 Please wow. 1428 01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:29.560 So Diamond G Concrete, Greg Martinez. On Saturday morning, May 1429 01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:33.319 thirty first, when the employee, Greg was getting ready to 1430 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:39.199 work that he Bob the homeowner stated to him that 1431 01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:41.640 he wasn't going to be able to pay the remaining 1432 01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:45.279 balance after the job was done until June twenty fourth 1433 01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:49.399 of twenty twenty five, which is approximately three weeks down 1434 01:10:49.479 --> 01:10:53.640 the road. We were redone way before that date on 1435 01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:57.600 the contract at states to be played at a completion 1436 01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:58.399 of the job. 1437 01:10:58.600 --> 01:10:59.359 All right, hold on. 1438 01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:00.760 Second, I don't know. 1439 01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.119 Hold on, hold on, Greg, I get it, I get it. Hey, Bob, 1440 01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:06.399 is that true? You basically told him you weren't going 1441 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:08.680 to be able to pay it till June. 1442 01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:11.560 And like I just stated, there was only twelve hundred 1443 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:13.840 dollars I wouldn't be able to pay I had I 1444 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:17.760 had four thousand dollars already in another account that I 1445 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.520 was able to transfer. Then that same the May thirty first, 1446 01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.720 my wife went to our bank and got a credit 1447 01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:26.880 line cash a vamp. 1448 01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:30.319 Hey, Bob, that part, Bob, None, None of that matters. 1449 01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:33.000 All I'm asking you, though, is did you tell their 1450 01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:34.920 employee you weren't going to be able to pay it 1451 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:36.079 till till June. 1452 01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:39.520 That's all, It's all I'm asking Yes, but he. 1453 01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:42.520 Did not let me finish my talking. And as to 1454 01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:44.000 why I was saying. 1455 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:47.800 That, well, he's basically saying that's not what we agreed 1456 01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:48.640 to in the contract. 1457 01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:50.079 I understand where he's coming from. 1458 01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:53.319 I'll say, okay, then the contract, Okay, the contract was 1459 01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:57.000 for five day completion. We had far exceeded that five days. 1460 01:11:57.039 --> 01:11:58.279 We were into our second week. 1461 01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:00.680 But but Bob, I asked you, when I asked you 1462 01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:02.880 about the delays, and look, I'm going to talk to 1463 01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:06.319 Greg again, absolutely with the same questions. But when I 1464 01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.560 talked to I said, who delayed it? You are Greg? 1465 01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:11.880 And you said, well, kind of both of you, So 1466 01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:14.039 why don't you focus on that for a sec? 1467 01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.600 Okay? On my part, I delayed. I delayed it and 1468 01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:20.880 said that I couldn't pay in full, but I could 1469 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:23.880 pay a portion of it and we could maybe just 1470 01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:27.319 complete that amount of work which I had already paid in. 1471 01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:30.279 How much needs to be left on this job, Bob? 1472 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:33.600 Right now, Like, let's talk dollars. Let's say Greg did 1473 01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:38.239 the entire job. How much how many dollars do you 1474 01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:40.079 think are left to be done? 1475 01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:41.239 If the job was done? 1476 01:12:42.279 --> 01:12:46.479 The contract was for right about eleven thousand and six forty, 1477 01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:49.840 I believe, Yeah, I was just going ahead. I went 1478 01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:53.159 ahead and routed it up to twelve thousand. Yeah, since 1479 01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:57.079 he's already gotten his down payment upfront cash advance of 1480 01:12:57.119 --> 01:12:57.680 six thousand. 1481 01:12:57.800 --> 01:12:58.680 Yeah, keep going there. 1482 01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:03.279 It was all six thousand leftover, I told him. I 1483 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:05.199 tried to explain to him when I said I couldn't 1484 01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:08.760 pay him completely, but I did have four thousand, so 1485 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:12.239 if we could at least do complete six thousand plus 1486 01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.920 an additional four thousand of work, which is ten thousand, dollars. 1487 01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:20.199 Then what once we reached that completion point of ten 1488 01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:23.239 grand worth of work completed, I would only need that 1489 01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:25.439 little bit extra time to get the ballop and he 1490 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:25.880 could finish. 1491 01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:28.239 Okay, But Bob, what I'm asking you is right now, 1492 01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:31.039 tell me if I got this straight, six thousand dollars 1493 01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:32.359 of work has been done? 1494 01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:36.520 If they knock out that, okay, No, not yet? 1495 01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:37.760 No? 1496 01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:41.079 Okay? How much of work is that done? And I think, well, 1497 01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:43.920 in your opinion, in your opinion, how much. 1498 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:47.800 I would lead it? I would hope that Greg could 1499 01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:49.760 itemize that he has some label. 1500 01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:50.560 He doesn't. 1501 01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:53.119 However, you guys wrote up to contract is how you 1502 01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:55.239 wrote it up. I don't know if he itemizes it, 1503 01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:57.760 nor do I know if it matters. Here's what I'm 1504 01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:00.640 trying to figure out. How much work do you thanks done? 1505 01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:05.560 Is fifty percent of the scope of the job done? 1506 01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:06.840 No? 1507 01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:11.359 Okay, forty percent? Are we close to fifty? 1508 01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:14.800 I think it's kind of more like anywhere between ten 1509 01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:15.640 to fifteen percent. 1510 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:18.520 Okay, hold on, I put him on hold, Greg, I 1511 01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:20.880 just want to stick to this part right now. How 1512 01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:23.560 much of that job has been done? He's saying ten 1513 01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:24.640 to fifteen percent? 1514 01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:27.840 All it needs to be done. 1515 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.079 Is forum said it in poor concrete but certain. Let 1516 01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:32.199 me tell you one thing real quick. This is the 1517 01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:35.239 part that's This is the part where you're not going 1518 01:14:35.319 --> 01:14:35.960 to understand. 1519 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.880 Okay, now we're on that part. Okay, now let me. 1520 01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:40.000 Just go on real quick. 1521 01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:40.359 Okay. 1522 01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:42.359 Yes, So stated to Bob that I don't. 1523 01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:44.039 Know if this was possible, that I would have to 1524 01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:45.399 call it office and find out. 1525 01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:46.560 I call him. 1526 01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:49.000 Stated to Bob that this would not be possible, but 1527 01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:51.960 we are not going to have no I would stated 1528 01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.279 that this will not be possible, that we are going 1529 01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:56.159 to have to revise a contract to come. 1530 01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:57.800 To new agreement. Brand. 1531 01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.439 All of a sudden, Bob's bounce. 1532 01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:02.000 We do not know her name. 1533 01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:05.039 Her name is Donna stormed out of the garage door 1534 01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:09.600 and started throwing racial slurs at my employee, stating, you 1535 01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:13.279 are an illegal. You won't be wrong here. I quote 1536 01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:16.119 she said, I am gonna blow you up and your 1537 01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:17.520 name on the internet. 1538 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.159 You are a fake the whole owner. 1539 01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:24.880 Bob then flinched like he was gonna hit my employee. 1540 01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:28.680 My employee had the duck and move out of the 1541 01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:33.159 way because he thought Bob was gonna hit him. Bob 1542 01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:38.079 came fair like he was gonna hit him, and then stopped. Siultaneously, 1543 01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:43.760 Bob's wife is yelling and screaming and spitting on my employee. 1544 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:48.680 She's spit on my employee twice, ranting and screaming, winding 1545 01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:51.640 her finger two inches away from my employee's face. 1546 01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:57.560 Hey, Greg, employee is skating. Hey Greg, employ is stated, Yes, sir, Greg. 1547 01:15:57.279 --> 01:16:00.680 I get you man. I follow you a hundred percent. There. 1548 01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:03.840 I would like to help me again. What led up 1549 01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:04.880 to this moment? 1550 01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:07.880 Was it the fact that you guys wanted to do 1551 01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:12.600 another contract because he couldn't pay according to that contract, 1552 01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:14.279 the original contract terms. 1553 01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.039 Well, leading up to that morning I got there, everything 1554 01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:20.000 is fine, he goes, it looks great. So what I 1555 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:23.880 have done is I've got all the degraded ready for concrete. 1556 01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:27.439 I've got dap yard front yard. I tore all the 1557 01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:29.600 old concrete out, took it to the dump on the 1558 01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:31.600 roll off that's already gone off the job. 1559 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:34.039 Everything is builders great. 1560 01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:36.880 No, I'm sorry, Greg, I think you missed. I think 1561 01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:40.960 you misunderstood my question. When the woman came out screaming 1562 01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:44.560 racial slurs and spitting and everything you just said, what 1563 01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:46.880 led up to that point is what I'm trying to 1564 01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:47.399 figure out. 1565 01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:52.079 Because she was mad that Bob had She came out 1566 01:16:52.079 --> 01:16:53.960 and said, why did you tell him that? 1567 01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:56.239 Why did so tell him? 1568 01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:56.319 What? 1569 01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:56.840 Dog? 1570 01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:58.560 You know that he couldn't pay me till the twenty 1571 01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:01.279 fourth She came out and told Bob, why did you 1572 01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:04.119 tal entim that? And Bob didn't say anything. And then 1573 01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:06.960 she looked at me and she said, you ain't done 1574 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:09.760 anything on this job. You haven't done anything. You are 1575 01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:13.920 any illegal, You don't belong here. And I said, whoa man? 1576 01:17:14.119 --> 01:17:16.840 I said, look at I stayed in numerous times. So 1577 01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:19.000 I'm trying to pick my tools up and get out 1578 01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:22.319 of there at this point because it's really getting out 1579 01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:22.720 of hand. 1580 01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:24.760 It's you know, that's you. 1581 01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:28.640 That was all right, very unportantly, very unprofessional. 1582 01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:31.560 So I'm right at this point, I'm kind of fearing 1583 01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:34.159 for you know, maybe this guy's going to get I 1584 01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:35.760 don't know what's going on right hold. 1585 01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:38.760 On the same time that he Greg Greg because because 1586 01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:40.800 of the format of the show, I have to take 1587 01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:43.359 this break. I want to continue it right on the 1588 01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:46.159 other side. I'm asking you to please hold, and I 1589 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:47.680 also Bob, you hold too. 1590 01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:48.439 I want to know. 1591 01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:51.920 If this is true because if someone I don't know 1592 01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:54.720 if it's your wife or girlfriend, whoever, but if there 1593 01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:59.279 was someone else involved literally screaming at these people, spitting 1594 01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:06.239 at these people, well that changes this a lot. I 1595 01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:08.840 really just want to get to the bottom of this one. Hey, Bob, 1596 01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:12.000 Greg was saying, when this all went down, there was 1597 01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:12.720 some woman there. 1598 01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:13.239 I don't know. 1599 01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:17.039 Who she was, but racial slurs, all kinds of problems, 1600 01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:20.119 spitting at him. Is there any truth to that stuff? 1601 01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:23.600 I sincerely doubt this guy would make every bit of 1602 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:25.680 it up. And I'm not saying that was you. 1603 01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:30.439 But what happened, okay number one, This was all captured 1604 01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:34.399 on our ring camera. Okay, okay, Greg sent me. Greg 1605 01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:38.880 sent me the same accusations via email about a day later, 1606 01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:41.199 and so I kind of knew I was going to 1607 01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:43.680 have to address them at some point. We had the 1608 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:47.039 al Paso County Sheriff come out and review all the video. 1609 01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:50.760 Officer Gate, a sergeant with the al Pasco County Sheriff 1610 01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:53.319 reviewed all of it, and he turned to me and said, 1611 01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:55.960 I see a nothing burger here. There's nothing there. 1612 01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.800 Well, did she at least get mad during the situation? 1613 01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:04.039 I understand basically what you're saying is he's exaggerating the 1614 01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:06.560 hell out of it. But what did take place on 1615 01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:08.079 that ring if I looked at. 1616 01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:11.319 It categorically, let me go through all of them. Okay, 1617 01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:16.279 the racial slurs. She was upset the week he wanted 1618 01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:19.439 six thousand dollars in cash. We wrote him a check 1619 01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:22.239 for six thousand dollars. He said he couldn't cast it 1620 01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:24.199 because it wasn't enough time to get it cleared to 1621 01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:27.199 his bank to start the work, which they started the same. 1622 01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:29.640 That's fine, So he wanted cash. So where does he 1623 01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:30.920 go with the racial slur? 1624 01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:35.520 Okay, because my wife was upset, she goes, I'm submitting 1625 01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:38.039 a ten ninety nine form to you to make sure 1626 01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:40.960 you pay your taxes to the IRS, because if not, 1627 01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:41.800 you're illegal. 1628 01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:44.880 And so that's what was said on the ring. 1629 01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:47.560 Yeah, he was. He was about she was about thirty 1630 01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:48.640 five forty feet. 1631 01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:51.600 Away when she said, okay, what else, and. 1632 01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:55.720 He turned around and said that you're racist, you're racist. Okay, no, 1633 01:19:56.239 --> 01:20:00.000 and then immediately she fired back, no, I met the irs. 1634 01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:02.479 You're illegal if you don't pay taxes on the cash 1635 01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:03.000 we gave you. 1636 01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:04.600 So that was that was a. 1637 01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:08.159 Misunderstanding on his part. Number one. Okay, it's clearly on. 1638 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.479 Keep going number two, number two, number two. 1639 01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:14.840 The spitting. My wife is at medical issues in which 1640 01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:17.920 she gets upset and she yells, she does, she has 1641 01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:21.560 her mouth, she does spit, okay, And she wasn't like 1642 01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:25.199 literally spitting on him just to spit. They were they 1643 01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:28.439 were they were arguing back and forth, and yes, she 1644 01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:29.279 may be spit on. 1645 01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:31.600 Hey, Bob, can I see I want to see this video? 1646 01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:33.640 Can you send us over a link to it? 1647 01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:38.760 Yeah, hold on, I haven't. I haven't posted it. I've 1648 01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:42.199 just got it. I've just got it saved my computer. Okay. 1649 01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:45.960 The final one about me Greggs thinking I was going 1650 01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:49.600 to hit him, No, when my wife and him were arguing, 1651 01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:51.079 I stepped in between him. 1652 01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:54.279 Okay, but it's all It's all on this video. That's 1653 01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:55.600 all I care about right now. 1654 01:20:55.680 --> 01:20:58.920 And he didn't duck. He just back a couple of 1655 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:01.439 feet away. And I was just saying, come on, guys, 1656 01:21:01.479 --> 01:21:04.479 but settle down. I was trying to I was trying 1657 01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:05.880 to calm the situation. 1658 01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:11.880 And this is all evident on the video. Right Yeah. Okay, now, Bob, Bob, let. 1659 01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:15.159 Me let's bob, let's move off that for a second 1660 01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:19.279 do you have if Greg would come out and finish 1661 01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:22.760 the job, pour it. It sounds like he did all 1662 01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:25.600 the dirt work, and he did all the forming and 1663 01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:27.039 basically all we're missing. 1664 01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:30.279 Now. No, no, there's no forming done. 1665 01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:31.239 There's no. 1666 01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:36.359 Road base, there's no rebar, and there's no concrete. 1667 01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:38.920 Okay, let me hold on. Let me just backtrack where 1668 01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:39.479 I was going. 1669 01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:43.119 If he was willing to come out and get the 1670 01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:45.760 job finished, when it's finished, will you be able to 1671 01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:49.319 pay him at that time one percent whatever the contract is? 1672 01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:51.399 Absolutely I would be happy. 1673 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:53.880 Hold on, Okay, Greg, listen. 1674 01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:57.079 I don't know what went down in that video, but 1675 01:21:57.119 --> 01:21:58.119 here's the good news. 1676 01:21:58.439 --> 01:21:59.760 I'm going to be able to see it. 1677 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:04.039 I don't know if it's a misunderstanding or if your 1678 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:07.800 version of it is much more correct. Until I see 1679 01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:10.920 the video, I just can't even tell you. But for 1680 01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:14.720 right now, for right now, let's just say it was 1681 01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:18.520 a misunderstanding. If this guy is going to pay you 1682 01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:23.239 every cent of whatever that contract is, whatever the work is, 1683 01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:26.399 are you willing to go back and finish the job, 1684 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:30.640 bury the hatchet and you guys, basically, you know, I'm 1685 01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:33.000 not saying you got to be great friends. Or buddies, 1686 01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:36.199 but get the job done both in a professional manner. 1687 01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:39.079 You get paid, he's happy with it, and move on. 1688 01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:40.720 Is that a possibility. 1689 01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:46.920 So after this whole incident and everything went down, I 1690 01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:50.760 still reached out to him and said, we will continue 1691 01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:54.720 the job on the twenty fourth of June. When you study, 1692 01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:58.560 you would have the money. So that's already been established. 1693 01:22:58.880 --> 01:22:59.960 I don't know where he's jumping. 1694 01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:02.079 Okay, hold on, Greg, so you would. 1695 01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:06.479 On the On the email it states yes, we are 1696 01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:09.319 going back on the twenty fourth when you have the money, 1697 01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:11.920 like you stated, and finished the job. 1698 01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:15.800 That's what That's where I have not once said. 1699 01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:18.720 Okay, now Greg, Greg, that's great, that's great, and you're 1700 01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:21.600 willing to do that on the twenty fourth, get the 1701 01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:24.159 job done and then he'll pay you all the money. 1702 01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:26.880 That's what we haven't. 1703 01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:29.359 That's what I have In the email, I stated the 1704 01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:31.920 twenty fourth to June, when you have the money, absolutely 1705 01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:32.199 all right? 1706 01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:35.640 Hold on, hold on, hey, Bob, are you good with that? 1707 01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:38.760 Absolutely all right? 1708 01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:41.199 Listen, I'm going to bring you both up now. So 1709 01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:43.560 we've got a deal here. It looks like on the 1710 01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:46.840 twenty fourth of this month, Greg, you're going to go out. 1711 01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:49.199 You're going to get the job finished. How many days 1712 01:23:49.239 --> 01:23:52.760 does it roughly take? I realize whether happens, things happen. 1713 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:55.640 When do you plan on being done with you start? 1714 01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:01.319 Well, it's pretty much the rug brush gun was tearing 1715 01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:02.720 out the concrete. 1716 01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:03.520 Getting the RT. 1717 01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:05.520 And you know, sending and all that stuff. 1718 01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:07.600 I would say there's three days maybe, Yes. 1719 01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:11.199 That's so within a week, within a week, three four days, 1720 01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:13.720 you're going to be done. And Bob, you have all 1721 01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:15.920 the money to pay him the second he's done. 1722 01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:20.800 Yes, I do. And as far as the timeline, I 1723 01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:24.000 would rather that Greg did the job that I know 1724 01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:26.720 he is he's capable of doing. I don't care if 1725 01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:28.479 it takes a week or two weeks because I know 1726 01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:29.720 he's going to do a great job. 1727 01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:32.720 Yeah, you've said that, and Greg, Greg, he has spoken 1728 01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:37.680 very highly of the work you've done, no doubt about that. Yes, sir, 1729 01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:40.640 So let's do this, guys. I think we're all on 1730 01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:42.640 the same page. Greg, you're going to be out there 1731 01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:45.439 on the twenty fourth. Bob, you got the money, right, 1732 01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:47.720 I mean, we're not missing anything here. 1733 01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:50.159 Not missing anything. It's all there. 1734 01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:51.159 Greg. You good? 1735 01:24:52.840 --> 01:24:53.319 Yeah, I am. 1736 01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:56.199 I have it on his email I did this one 1737 01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:57.399 day after this incident. 1738 01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:02.359 I love you conclusion then listen, so I'm on board. 1739 01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:05.439 I love it. So here's I put Bob on the hold. Greg. 1740 01:25:05.479 --> 01:25:07.800 First of all, I appreciate. 1741 01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:09.720 You coming on. When businesses come on, it tells me 1742 01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:12.319 a lot about them, and it's not every day I 1743 01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:15.640 get a complaint from somebody like Bob. Where in the 1744 01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:19.039 same breath he says, what great work you did. I 1745 01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:22.039 still am going to look at that video. I am 1746 01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:25.520 going to assume at this point that there was some 1747 01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:29.520 miscommunication and everybody lost their mind. To be quite frank, 1748 01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:32.000 that's what I think happened. But if I look at 1749 01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:36.880 it and and it was, like, you know, really over 1750 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:39.680 the top, I will do a follow up on the 1751 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.520 air about that as well. So I just want you 1752 01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:45.880 to understand that. But I really don't think that that's 1753 01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:47.680 going to be the case. I think it's going to 1754 01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:49.359 be somewhere in between. 1755 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:52.640 I don't mean to put you off, but I kind 1756 01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:55.760 of do. Because my demeanor was professional. 1757 01:25:56.119 --> 01:25:57.760 I stayed it many a times. 1758 01:25:57.880 --> 01:25:58.159 Yep. 1759 01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:02.359 All I want to do is being do a new contract. 1760 01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:03.079 He caught it. 1761 01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:06.840 My favorite key is exaggerating his point. What that's the 1762 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:11.359 key right there. That video will tell the story. You'll 1763 01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:14.680 see how Bile and Boulder his wife. 1764 01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:20.319 I will Greg Greg Greg, I promise, I promise. I'm 1765 01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:23.159 gonna look at that and Kelly make sure we've got 1766 01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:27.000 Greg's information. But all I really care about right now 1767 01:26:27.319 --> 01:26:29.600 is we're all on track for the twenty fourth that 1768 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:32.439 goes for you, Bob, that goes for Greg. Let's get 1769 01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:35.439 this done. Let's get it in the past. Everybody will 1770 01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:38.199 be happy. The work should be of good quality. According 1771 01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:42.239 to Bob and Greg, it's gonna be good. And maybe Bob, 1772 01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:45.279 you kind of stay away while they're finishing up and 1773 01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:48.520 just get through there. Don't have your wife there. Let's 1774 01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:52.239 not escalate this for God's sake any more than it 1775 01:26:52.319 --> 01:26:55.079 needs to be. And Bob, last thing is what am 1776 01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:56.560 I going to be able to see that video. 1777 01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:01.920 I'll get that sent in and just kind of in 1778 01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:05.000 final closing, Like I said. 1779 01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:07.600 I mean, Bob, it sounds like everything's going to go 1780 01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.760 good from here, so watch your final closing. 1781 01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:14.800 Well, okay, well, there is some I need to sell 1782 01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:19.520 work with them because the root system that was buried 1783 01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:22.640 and compacted under where all the new concrete's going to go, 1784 01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:26.319 that had to get dug out. So I've been with 1785 01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:29.840 a lot of time and effort and money expenditure. I 1786 01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:32.119 have been correcting that situation myself. 1787 01:27:32.199 --> 01:27:34.079 Is it done and will it be done? Will they 1788 01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:35.920 be ready to go on the twenty fourth? 1789 01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:36.880 Yes? 1790 01:27:37.199 --> 01:27:38.880 Yes, I've got final tracks. 1791 01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:42.239 Do you undo anything that is going to cost Greg 1792 01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:43.199 more money? 1793 01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:44.279 No? 1794 01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:44.840 Okay? 1795 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:48.279 The only thing that and if it does, him and 1796 01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:51.880 I can can calmly, professionally discuss that and I will 1797 01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:54.079 compensate him for whatever he feels. 1798 01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:58.039 Hold on, it's a monkey wrench, Greg, something with the root? 1799 01:27:58.119 --> 01:28:01.279 Are you going to be able to deal with that? 1800 01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:06.000 That's yet, sir Brook, I don't. 1801 01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:07.640 I'm not gonna go any product right now. 1802 01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:08.199 I'm not. 1803 01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:10.239 I'm not gonna speak on that any product because I 1804 01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:13.800 don't want to jeopardize anything I have to say. So 1805 01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:17.479 now he's bringing up other issues that that I'm gonna 1806 01:28:17.479 --> 01:28:20.359 have to address. I'm gonna have to address that. Okay, 1807 01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:22.760 I'm not addressing it over because. 1808 01:28:22.520 --> 01:28:25.159 I got it. When can you go look at it myself? 1809 01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:27.279 I'm not gonna put myself in a corner again. 1810 01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:28.720 You know he's gonna do. 1811 01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:32.520 Hey, Greg, I appreciate it, Greg, Greg, I appreciate what 1812 01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:34.600 you're saying. You probably need to look at it, or 1813 01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:36.760 at least look at a picture of it and figure 1814 01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:39.119 out if it's gonna cost you any more money. And 1815 01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:41.920 if so, Bob said he will pay you for that. 1816 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:43.840 Sure. 1817 01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:48.079 Yeah, that's why I'm saying that we'll figure that one out. 1818 01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:51.119 I'm not gonna do business because I don't know exactly, 1819 01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:53.119 you know what the scope of the work that's gonna happen. 1820 01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.359 I understand, So do me a favor. Make sure Kelly 1821 01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:59.399 we have both their information. You guys need to get together, 1822 01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:02.079 get it out on this. And then Bob, I do 1823 01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:05.000 want to see that video. Man, make sure you get 1824 01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:08.279 me that video today. I'm sure it's somewhere in between, 1825 01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:11.039 but I want to look at it. Everybody, hold tight, John, 1826 01:29:11.079 --> 01:29:18.920 you're up next. Well, Bob doesn't complicate that situation. Whatever's 1827 01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:22.920 fair for them to do. The rest of the work 1828 01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:26.359 really needs to be done. And I will report back 1829 01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:28.560 to people on that video. And if I don't get it, 1830 01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:32.199 I'll report back. But I think I'm going to see it. 1831 01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:34.600 It might be a little more aggressive. I'm dying to 1832 01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:37.600 know now, I mean really, I'm dying to know where 1833 01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:41.239 that's going to pop up. I really do want to know. Hey, John, 1834 01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:43.239 real quick, what's your question on probate? 1835 01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:48.960 So basically, I don't know anything about probate. I have 1836 01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:51.319 a bunch of questions, and I don't know if you 1837 01:29:51.359 --> 01:29:55.039 can give me a referral for an attorney. 1838 01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:57.600 I can definitely give you a referral, but because this 1839 01:29:57.760 --> 01:29:59.880 is a radio show, we'll do that. But what are 1840 01:29:59.880 --> 01:30:03.600 you your questions? So other people can get educated as well? 1841 01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:06.039 Did someone just pass away? 1842 01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:07.159 Correct? 1843 01:30:07.399 --> 01:30:08.439 And who passed away? 1844 01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:11.199 Yes, it's my brother. 1845 01:30:11.800 --> 01:30:14.479 And are you the soul heir? 1846 01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:17.560 No? 1847 01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:20.479 No, that's why it's complicated because there's other people. 1848 01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:23.439 Yeah, who else is involved? Was there a will or 1849 01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:24.000 a trust? 1850 01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:27.960 So this's a will, but it's questionable. 1851 01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:33.039 And then this, uh uh, there's two daughters and this 1852 01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.359 the wife and the wife doesn't really know how to 1853 01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:38.079 handle all this stuff. 1854 01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:41.880 And why are you? Why are you involved? She reached 1855 01:30:41.920 --> 01:30:43.000 out to you for help? 1856 01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:44.760 Correct? 1857 01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:47.319 And what does the estate have in it? 1858 01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:50.479 I mean what value if the if there's a house, 1859 01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:52.720 For example, I assume the wife is going to stay 1860 01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:55.319 in the house with the kids. Do they own a house? 1861 01:30:58.199 --> 01:30:58.239 No? 1862 01:30:58.479 --> 01:31:02.359 The so the the will, there's a couple of kids, 1863 01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:03.600 his kids. 1864 01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:08.760 How old are the children? Oh, okay, they're adult children. 1865 01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:09.600 I understand now. 1866 01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:12.119 And then does the wife live into the house and 1867 01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:12.960 does she own it? 1868 01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:17.439 She's a co owner? 1869 01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:18.840 Okay. 1870 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:21.600 And what does the will say, for example, just about 1871 01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:22.039 the house? 1872 01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:27.279 Well, no, basically it's all for the kids. 1873 01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.159 Well that's fine. So what is the wife going to do? 1874 01:31:32.479 --> 01:31:37.199 Well as as saying no, she has to open probate, correct. 1875 01:31:37.279 --> 01:31:40.359 Yes she does. But what ye yes? 1876 01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:43.159 Well yeah, if there's property, yes, But let me ask 1877 01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:46.199 you this. Here's what I'm trying to figure out. She's 1878 01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:50.119 not when you say everything's for the kids, she's not 1879 01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:51.399 going to leave the house? 1880 01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:51.760 Is she? 1881 01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:53.840 No? 1882 01:31:53.920 --> 01:31:55.319 But they have multiple like. 1883 01:31:55.319 --> 01:32:01.359 Rentals, Okay, there's multiple properties involved. Besides it's multiple properties. 1884 01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:07.399 How about other assets? Is there a lot of cash? Life, insurance, retirement? Okay, 1885 01:32:07.479 --> 01:32:10.119 hold on, let's do this. Here's what I want to do. 1886 01:32:10.239 --> 01:32:11.720 I'm going to put you on hold. I want to 1887 01:32:11.720 --> 01:32:15.680 get Dan McKenzie on. I think we set it up 1888 01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.960 for after the next hour. Kelly, I think we really 1889 01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:22.479 do that. So I mean, just get them holding. It's 1890 01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:24.079 no big deal. He's just gonna have to hold a 1891 01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:27.159 few minutes. And then I want to talk to doctor 1892 01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:32.560 Joel about well, I got two texts here. Mark keeps saying, 1893 01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:35.119 I love when they call me out. Mark keeps saying 1894 01:32:35.159 --> 01:32:37.600 he's going to go back to the neuropathy treatment. 1895 01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:38.560 What is it? 1896 01:32:39.159 --> 01:32:41.960 Well, Doc, I'm just gonna let you explain it right now. 1897 01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:45.640 I mean the treatment is stem cells along with PRP. 1898 01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:49.520 Give us the rundown. What is this treatment? Then we're 1899 01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:53.399 going to get into the effectiveness it has had on 1900 01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:54.840 your patients. 1901 01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:57.840 So what we do when we treat foot in neuropathy 1902 01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:00.640 is first we do a great of how bad the 1903 01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:03.600 neuropathy is, and then we map out on the foot 1904 01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:06.680 where we're gonna inject. And so then we inject into 1905 01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:09.840 six areas on the bottom of the foot, coming in 1906 01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:12.439 from the side, so we get the entire foot. We 1907 01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:14.439 inject the entire foot, and what we inject it with 1908 01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:18.800 is a combination of stem cells of a product called 1909 01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:22.079 MVT or microvascular tissue. And this is a new product. 1910 01:33:22.159 --> 01:33:24.319 This is just approved by the FDA about two years 1911 01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:26.800 ago and it's used in wound healing. And what it 1912 01:33:26.840 --> 01:33:30.279 does is it promotes new blood vessel growth. 1913 01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:32.800 And what do the stem cells do if that does 1914 01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:33.920 new muscle growth? 1915 01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:35.079 The stem cells. 1916 01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:39.640 You inject into someone's foot that has pain due to neuropathy, 1917 01:33:39.880 --> 01:33:42.159 what do the stem cells actually do? 1918 01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:45.359 So the stem cells will regenerate the nerve, they'll regenerate 1919 01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:48.640 the damaged nerve region, rebuild it, rebuild the nerve cells. 1920 01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:51.920 But it also needs blood flow in order to function properly, 1921 01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:54.479 and that's part of the cause of the neuropathy. So 1922 01:33:54.600 --> 01:33:58.279 the MVT, the microvascular tissue that we also include in 1923 01:33:58.279 --> 01:34:03.039 our mix of regenerative metaine and products, is what promotes 1924 01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:06.600 new blood blood vessel growth. So the blood vessels will 1925 01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:11.119 grow new pathways to the damaged nerve, and the stem 1926 01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:13.000 cells will repair the nerve. 1927 01:34:13.159 --> 01:34:15.920 So the stem cells are almost like, well, of course 1928 01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:18.960 you're better than PRP, but they're going to go to 1929 01:34:19.079 --> 01:34:20.199 where they need to go. 1930 01:34:20.439 --> 01:34:21.720 I mean, is that pretty much it? 1931 01:34:22.039 --> 01:34:24.920 Or the stem cells go wherever you inject them, and 1932 01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:28.439 it really doesn't matter if it's a nerve or a muscle. 1933 01:34:28.600 --> 01:34:31.279 I mean, don't stem cells kind of regenerate everything. 1934 01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:33.560 Well, what they do is they hone in on inflammation. 1935 01:34:33.880 --> 01:34:37.199 So anything that's chronically damaged is going to be releasing 1936 01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:41.520 chemical inflammatory chemicals, and so the stem cells are attracted 1937 01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:43.960 to those inflammatory chemicals and then they interact with the 1938 01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:47.520 damaged tissue causing the inflammation to resolve. And then that 1939 01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:50.880 creates an environment for healing naturally through your body's own 1940 01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:54.079 healing mechanism, which is accelerated from the stem cells. And 1941 01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:57.560 then in addition to that, the microvascular tissue rebuilds the 1942 01:34:57.600 --> 01:35:00.960 blood vessels so that there's new improved blood flow to 1943 01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:05.119 the damage nerve for a more permanent resolution of the issue. 1944 01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:08.439 When someone comes in that let's say, when you generally 1945 01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:10.920 talk about a pain level, is it like a one 1946 01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:13.279 to ten. When they come in and you kind of 1947 01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:17.039 start factoring it like that, then I assume you actually 1948 01:35:17.119 --> 01:35:19.279 take like I don't think you would call it an 1949 01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:21.840 X ray, but some image of the foot. 1950 01:35:22.520 --> 01:35:24.560 Yeah, well, well we want to see and we want 1951 01:35:24.600 --> 01:35:26.359 to see an X ray to begin with to start with, 1952 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:27.760 so we know what the anatomy looks like. 1953 01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:28.199 Got it. 1954 01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:31.199 And then what we do is we have instruments that 1955 01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:33.960 we use. There's one instrument it looks like a piece 1956 01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:36.479 of fishing wire connected to a handle, and what we 1957 01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:38.720 do is we tap that all along the bottom of 1958 01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:40.439 the foot and we map out where the numb and 1959 01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:43.359 painful areas are and that will give us I'm giving 1960 01:35:43.399 --> 01:35:45.760 a brief synopsis to do a couple more things, but 1961 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:48.159 that basically gives us a map of where the where 1962 01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:49.479 the where the problem is. 1963 01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:51.239 Which sets up where the injections cot. 1964 01:35:51.319 --> 01:35:51.439 Right. 1965 01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:54.239 Although we do inject the entire foot on everybody with 1966 01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:56.680 this issue no matter what, it gives us an idea 1967 01:35:56.760 --> 01:35:58.680 of what we're starting with, how bad it is, so 1968 01:35:58.720 --> 01:36:01.079 that we can mark, we can measure the improvement over 1969 01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:03.920 time and also know where the worst part of the damage. 1970 01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:06.079 Okay, wait, so I gotta take this break. 1971 01:36:06.159 --> 01:36:09.239 Listen to this, So folks, when we start talking about 1972 01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:11.279 the results, you're gonna be flabberg acid. 1973 01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:12.479 And I'm not kidding. 1974 01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:15.560 We're gonna do a little deeper dive into this because 1975 01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:18.680 I've gotten four emails at this point about it. But John, 1976 01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:21.319 we're getting on an attorney to help you after the 1977 01:36:21.359 --> 01:36:22.119 break as well. 1978 01:36:22.359 --> 01:36:28.039 Everybody hold tight, all. 1979 01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:30.279 Right, listen, we got a lot kicking. I got an 1980 01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:33.880 expert coming up for John. He's got that question on probate. 1981 01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:36.640 We're gonna be talking to doctor Joel Wait to hear 1982 01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:41.039 what they can do for neuropathy. Pay now, it's unbelievable 1983 01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:45.079 everybody hold tight, another hour coming up right here. I'm 1984 01:36:45.159 --> 01:36:46.680 the Troubleshooter Network. 1985 01:36:55.439 --> 01:37:05.359 Ripped as a kid. 1986 01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:09.279 Shooter's gonna help coming man. 1987 01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:12.319 This is the Troubleshooter Show. 1988 01:37:12.920 --> 01:37:19.119 No Tom Martinez, welcome, Welcome, my friends to the only 1989 01:37:19.359 --> 01:37:22.319 show of this can. We're here to solve problems, answer questions, 1990 01:37:22.720 --> 01:37:25.640 take complaints. Our goal in life is to make yours 1991 01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:28.439 a little bit better. We even did a little bit 1992 01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:32.720 of a negotiations today for somebody, and we've got an 1993 01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:36.000 update coming up on that poor dog that was shot yesterday. 1994 01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:39.239 We've got a lot kicking. Hey, Kelly, did you reach 1995 01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:40.800 out to Dan mackenzie. 1996 01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:41.359 I did. 1997 01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:44.279 He has not texted me back yet and he wasn't 1998 01:37:44.279 --> 01:37:47.560 answering his foolks. We may have to reschedule. 1999 01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:50.239 Sure, John, listen, I want to get an attorney on 2000 01:37:50.439 --> 01:37:53.960 to talk about what's going on with the death of 2001 01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:57.600 your brother. We definitely want to do that, So hang on, Kelly, 2002 01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:00.279 make sure we got his information because we can always 2003 01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:04.000 call back the second we can get McKenzie on, and 2004 01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:06.560 hopefully that'll be this hour. But John, I wanted to 2005 01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:09.840 get you that free legal advice and what you should 2006 01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:12.359 do and kind of dig into that. So we're going 2007 01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:14.840 to do that, and then Deputy Chopper has an update 2008 01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:17.439 on that dog shooting. But I want to tell you something. 2009 01:38:17.720 --> 01:38:20.680 Frank Duran, the real estate man, when he sold our 2010 01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:23.359 house in Castle Rock, you know, he listed our house 2011 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:27.720 in Red Hawk for less than that same model was 2012 01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:30.479 going for anywhere in the neighborhood. And I said, Frank, 2013 01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:33.800 what are your nuts? That's all part of his secret sauce. 2014 01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:36.000 I'll tell you the bottom line. I'll skip to the end. 2015 01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:37.800 I'll skip to the good part. 2016 01:38:38.319 --> 01:38:38.840 You ready. 2017 01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:41.920 He made us more on that model than that model 2018 01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.479 sold for anywhere else in the neighborhood. Frank Durand sold 2019 01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:48.760 our house in less than two weeks. 2020 01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:52.560 And he sold it for more than that. 2021 01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:55.159 Model got anywhere else in the neighborhood in that period 2022 01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:59.239 of time. Absolutely remarkable. You want the best realtor, you 2023 01:38:59.319 --> 01:39:02.960 call Frank. In fact, check out his MLS stats. Frank 2024 01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:07.239 sells more homes for more money in one month than 2025 01:39:07.399 --> 01:39:13.279 most realtors in the entire state of Colorado do, which 2026 01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:16.960 is an absolutely amazing thing. Now we're gonna go to 2027 01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:20.920 that update on the dog thing from yesterday, but I 2028 01:39:20.960 --> 01:39:23.479 got to recap it real quick. Here's the bottom line, 2029 01:39:24.359 --> 01:39:27.720 this guy calls during the show and it was amazing. 2030 01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:35.239 He's sitting there. A ATF officer walks through his fence 2031 01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:39.359 and his front yard is fenced in, opens the gate, 2032 01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:43.840 comes in, according to the caller, opens up his screen door, 2033 01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:47.920 and he was there to talk about a stolen gun 2034 01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:52.239 that the caller's wife reported stolen. 2035 01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:55.079 So he was there apparently for that reason. 2036 01:39:56.199 --> 01:40:01.239 Dog, here's the guy open the front screen door, comes 2037 01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:06.079 running out. I believe it was a pitbull mastive mix. 2038 01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:09.680 I mean, we're talking a pretty big, beefy, scary dog, 2039 01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:14.800 and the cop laid four bullets into it, afraid for 2040 01:40:14.880 --> 01:40:18.479 his life, or I should say ATF officer. That is 2041 01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:22.560 what happened, had happened live right here on the air. 2042 01:40:22.640 --> 01:40:25.439 The guy called, and the cops were on their way, 2043 01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:28.079 and by the time the conversation, an hour or so 2044 01:40:28.199 --> 01:40:33.079 goes by, by the time we let that guy go 2045 01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:37.600 towards the end, I think it was the Greely Police. 2046 01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:41.800 Does anybody remember what police agency off hand? Lafayette? I 2047 01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:45.960 believe it was Lafayette, but Deputy Chopper, he's one of 2048 01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:50.680 her deputy's former police officer for Denver. You reached out, 2049 01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:53.000 was it to the Lafayette Police Department. 2050 01:40:53.079 --> 01:40:53.439 Chopper. 2051 01:40:55.119 --> 01:40:56.439 I reached out to. 2052 01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:02.159 Both Lafia and the public officer of ATF. 2053 01:41:02.479 --> 01:41:04.319 And what did we find out? Man? 2054 01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:07.439 Did I pretty much say that story right? It unfolded 2055 01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:10.520 pretty much live on the air, at least the aftermath. 2056 01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:15.039 Yeah, pretty much. There's a little bit of a change 2057 01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:18.159 which I'll read to you shortly. But Lafayette got back 2058 01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:23.319 to me right away, their division chief or deputy chief, 2059 01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:27.199 and they basically said they just responded to the scene 2060 01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:31.960 because there was a call of shots fired and they 2061 01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:35.520 really didn't do anything more than what we would call 2062 01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:40.640 cover ATF and they didn't get involved or do any 2063 01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:46.039 criminal charges because unfortunately, it was a dog that was killed. 2064 01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:48.760 I'm a pet lover, I know how horrible. 2065 01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:49.000 It had to be. 2066 01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:52.279 Chopper, you were a cop. I didn't understand something you said. 2067 01:41:52.359 --> 01:41:55.880 So when they responded, you said, I think you just 2068 01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:59.560 said protecting ATF or something along those lines. 2069 01:41:59.600 --> 01:42:02.399 What do you mean by that? 2070 01:42:02.159 --> 01:42:07.359 That just means, uh, that they may need more assistance 2071 01:42:07.760 --> 01:42:11.000 because things could go bad, which they did, as we 2072 01:42:11.560 --> 01:42:15.399 heard on you know, part of that call yesterday. 2073 01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.520 They did. They were starting to get crazy. 2074 01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:20.000 Now let me ask you another question before we get 2075 01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:24.800 into the update. In your experience, when something has federal 2076 01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:29.520 officers or federal law enforcement involved, like this, ATF is 2077 01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:32.640 showing up there according to the caller because his wife 2078 01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:36.079 had a gun stolen something like that. And if there's 2079 01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:38.239 an update on that, that's great. I'd love to hear 2080 01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:41.960 that part. But when there's federal officers, then the locals 2081 01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:44.720 come in. In a case like this, do locals have 2082 01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:49.119 any authority whatsoever? In other words, why isn't Lafayette doing 2083 01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:51.079 an investigation into this? 2084 01:42:51.399 --> 01:42:52.399 Or are they. 2085 01:42:55.079 --> 01:43:00.000 Actually according to the Deputy chief, they're not because they're 2086 01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:04.039 there was no criminal act in their mind because what 2087 01:43:04.239 --> 01:43:08.359 happened went down lawfle by the ATF agent. 2088 01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:10.520 Okay, now I will tell you Mark. 2089 01:43:10.359 --> 01:43:12.600 But wait a minute, Wait a minute, chapter right, Wait 2090 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.920 a minute, Dough, you glanced over my second question or 2091 01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:19.880 a part of the same question. Let's say something according 2092 01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:23.840 to the caller, the guy opened his door, which he 2093 01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:27.000 probably shouldn't have done. Let's just say that was on 2094 01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:30.000 a ring camera. Let's say this guy had proof that 2095 01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:34.119 the ATF officer walked into his house or opened his 2096 01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:38.640 front door like he stated yesterday. If there was proof 2097 01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:43.159 of that, would the Lafayette police then do an investigation, 2098 01:43:43.640 --> 01:43:47.239 or they simply don't have the authority to do one 2099 01:43:47.640 --> 01:43:50.560 because the FEDS trump the locals. 2100 01:43:52.199 --> 01:43:55.800 Well, they could do an investigation, that's correct, Mark, But 2101 01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:59.800 you're right they would more than likely turn it over 2102 01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:03.960 to the FBI to follow up on an investigation or 2103 01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:08.880 ATF which we'll get to shortly in this paragraph. I 2104 01:44:08.960 --> 01:44:11.640 have would follow up and do the investments. 2105 01:44:11.720 --> 01:44:14.079 Right, Go ahead, give us the updates. I'm dying to know. 2106 01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:18.560 Okay, First of all, the one thing is that gun 2107 01:44:19.079 --> 01:44:23.479 was never reported stolen because she didn't know the serial number. 2108 01:44:24.239 --> 01:44:30.000 But I got a statement from the Crystal McCoy, the 2109 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:35.600 public information officer of ATV ATF. It's very short and 2110 01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:39.840 i'll read it. On Tuesday, June tenth, a special agent 2111 01:44:39.880 --> 01:44:43.119 approached the front door of a residence to contact the 2112 01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:48.000 occupant as part of an active ongoing gun violent gun 2113 01:44:48.039 --> 01:44:53.439 crime investigation. Receiving no response, the special agent began to 2114 01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:59.720 leave when a large, aggressive, unrestrained dog charged towards the agent, 2115 01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:03.520 at which time the dog attacked the agent and bit 2116 01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:06.960 through the agent's close In order to stop the attack, 2117 01:45:07.439 --> 01:45:11.239 the agent use their it says there, but it should 2118 01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:14.560 be the agent use his issued service weapon to kill 2119 01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:19.079 the dog. ATF Denver Field Division referred the incident to 2120 01:45:19.720 --> 01:45:26.600 ATF's Professional Responsibility and Security Operations Division and the local 2121 01:45:26.720 --> 01:45:31.239 Enforcement for review. That big words that they were saying 2122 01:45:31.319 --> 01:45:36.680 is basically their internal affairs. And so then I asked 2123 01:45:37.039 --> 01:45:40.239 two other questions to them that came to my mind. 2124 01:45:40.520 --> 01:45:43.800 Was there a sign on the fence that said beware 2125 01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:48.760 of dog? And then I asked did the agent push 2126 01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:52.520 the door open and start to proceed into it? Then 2127 01:45:52.600 --> 01:45:56.720 I got the typical federal response. And remember I did 2128 01:45:56.800 --> 01:46:00.199 do some work for FEMA, and it basically said, we 2129 01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:01.199 can't say anymore. 2130 01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:02.640 And that was it. 2131 01:46:03.239 --> 01:46:05.399 Wow, So we don't know what the answer to that 2132 01:46:05.479 --> 01:46:09.880 would be. I mean, that's crazy. They wouldn't respond to that. Well, 2133 01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:11.119 I guess it's not crazy. 2134 01:46:12.960 --> 01:46:17.840 It's their procedure. Even that female we did things like that. 2135 01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:20.680 But Mark, I just want to make one statement before 2136 01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:23.279 we go off on this, and you're going to ask 2137 01:46:23.319 --> 01:46:24.239 me probably. 2138 01:46:23.920 --> 01:46:24.720 Some other things. 2139 01:46:24.760 --> 01:46:27.319 And I used to say this all the time when 2140 01:46:27.319 --> 01:46:30.720 I wrote up my internal go ahead, fair stuff, say it, 2141 01:46:31.159 --> 01:46:36.800 and it applies here. I wasn't at the ballpark. Don't 2142 01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:40.800 ask me to call the balls and strikes. Yeah, if 2143 01:46:40.840 --> 01:46:41.680 you don't understand what. 2144 01:46:41.640 --> 01:46:42.640 I'm saying, yeah I do. 2145 01:46:42.800 --> 01:46:48.079 Here's what was interesting about that statement to me, what 2146 01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:53.119 stuck out, okay, is that gun apparently was stolen and 2147 01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:55.960 it sounds like it was used in a commission of some. 2148 01:46:56.119 --> 01:46:59.600 Crime, whether a violent crime or I don't. 2149 01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:04.600 Know, some some crime and these people weren't responding to it, 2150 01:47:05.159 --> 01:47:07.399 so they went over there to investigate. 2151 01:47:07.479 --> 01:47:10.520 Now, I'm not saying they were alluding to. 2152 01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:14.560 That these people or they thought that maybe these people 2153 01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:15.439 had something to. 2154 01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:18.199 Do with that crime. I mean, how did you read 2155 01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:18.800 into that? 2156 01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:24.399 I read into it basically what you said atf followed 2157 01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:27.560 that gun down to these people, and they wanted to 2158 01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:31.680 go there and say, hey, well went on, or they 2159 01:47:32.039 --> 01:47:35.560 might have thought that maybe these people were involved in 2160 01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:38.560 the crime, a conspiracy after or before the fact. 2161 01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:41.840 They were very elusive in that they were kind of 2162 01:47:42.039 --> 01:47:45.920 damning in one way, but very elusive in another. It's 2163 01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:48.800 a very well written statement when it comes to that 2164 01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:51.560 part of it, because it really made me think of 2165 01:47:51.680 --> 01:47:53.520 numerous different things. 2166 01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:58.000 Yeah, you're correct. Now, I will also say one other 2167 01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:01.399 thing that would have I would have done my career. 2168 01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:05.920 We would have been contacted and gone with ATF to 2169 01:48:06.039 --> 01:48:10.520 the house because we were uniform officers. A lot of 2170 01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:13.800 times people don't know you know what an ATF guy 2171 01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:14.359 looks like. 2172 01:48:15.199 --> 01:48:17.039 Well, you know what. You know. 2173 01:48:17.119 --> 01:48:19.800 What's interesting about what you just said. You just sparked 2174 01:48:19.800 --> 01:48:23.720 another thought, and that is this person apparently showed up 2175 01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:28.119 by themselves, no backup, no police. So they must have 2176 01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:32.319 not thought these people were violent or why would one 2177 01:48:32.439 --> 01:48:33.439 person show up? 2178 01:48:33.600 --> 01:48:35.439 That doesn't make sense, does it. 2179 01:48:35.479 --> 01:48:39.000 In other words, if they thought they may have had 2180 01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:42.199 something to do with this crime, then why would they 2181 01:48:42.239 --> 01:48:42.560 show up? 2182 01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:44.159 Go ahead, Sir Tom's notes. 2183 01:48:44.239 --> 01:48:47.399 It says that the ATF agent came onto his property 2184 01:48:47.479 --> 01:48:49.560 to serve his wife some papers. 2185 01:48:49.640 --> 01:48:50.920 Yeah, he got it all mixed up. 2186 01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:54.199 Okay, The whole thing went down so quick at first, 2187 01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:57.279 and I want people out there to understand what Suzanne saying. 2188 01:48:57.680 --> 01:49:03.800 At first, what they thought was someone was serving either 2189 01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:07.680 child support or divorce papers to the wife. 2190 01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:11.640 They had no idea this had to do with the stolen. 2191 01:49:11.239 --> 01:49:14.640 Gun, so they genuinely thought that was what's happening. 2192 01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:16.399 That's what they thought at first. 2193 01:49:16.479 --> 01:49:21.079 And then when the ATF got involved during the call yesterday, 2194 01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:24.600 the ATF showed up. That's where the real story started 2195 01:49:24.600 --> 01:49:25.640 coming out. 2196 01:49:26.079 --> 01:49:27.880 So that's that's curious, see. 2197 01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:30.479 Right, Mark, Mark. 2198 01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:30.640 You right. 2199 01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:33.760 If they would have thought this was truly involved, I 2200 01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:35.680 would have thought there would be two or three agents. 2201 01:49:35.880 --> 01:49:36.079 Yeah. 2202 01:49:36.279 --> 01:49:40.000 Or they called for local background runs yeah, yes, and 2203 01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:43.399 called lafia. So I think they were just going there 2204 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:45.479 to do a Hey, what's going on. 2205 01:49:45.640 --> 01:49:46.720 It's horrible. 2206 01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:47.800 Can you report the gun? 2207 01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:48.199 Yeah? 2208 01:49:48.279 --> 01:49:49.600 It's horrible. 2209 01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:52.560 Well, and I think they did end up reporting the 2210 01:49:52.600 --> 01:49:56.000 gun because they were in some form of communication, if 2211 01:49:56.039 --> 01:49:59.319 I understood the guy right yesterday. But here's what's really 2212 01:49:59.399 --> 01:50:03.840 nuts in Colorado. Okay, first of all, this is just 2213 01:50:03.960 --> 01:50:08.039 my opinion. So I got a dog gnawing at my leg. 2214 01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:11.720 I'm shooting the dog. I'm sorry. That's a big dog. 2215 01:50:11.840 --> 01:50:14.159 They said it was a mastiff mix. I don't know 2216 01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:16.439 what the mix was, but it's a big dog. 2217 01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:19.800 The dog. Should a guy walk through the gate? 2218 01:50:20.039 --> 01:50:20.079 No? 2219 01:50:20.640 --> 01:50:23.239 Should the guy have opened the door if he actually did, 2220 01:50:23.359 --> 01:50:24.840 I bet they claim they didn't. 2221 01:50:25.159 --> 01:50:25.520 But no. 2222 01:50:26.239 --> 01:50:29.600 But once it's too late for all that, and there's a. 2223 01:50:29.479 --> 01:50:33.119 Big ass dog gnawing on your leg, I'm gonna pop 2224 01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:36.199 it too. I'm sorry, I'm just gonna do it. It's 2225 01:50:36.199 --> 01:50:39.680 too late for anything else the dog could literally kill you. 2226 01:50:40.119 --> 01:50:43.439 If anybody who's ever seen a bull mastiff, I mean 2227 01:50:43.720 --> 01:50:46.600 you think a rottweiler's got a big head, look at 2228 01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:49.239 a bull mast If it can kill a person, they 2229 01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:51.000 hunt bear for God's sake. 2230 01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:53.520 Hey, Mark, if he just opened a screen door to 2231 01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:56.079 knock on the wooden door, that wouldn't be any kind 2232 01:50:56.119 --> 01:50:57.600 of invasive of private proce. 2233 01:50:57.680 --> 01:50:58.680 No, I don't think so either. 2234 01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:01.119 But he's saying that door is open, and they open 2235 01:51:01.159 --> 01:51:02.439 the screen door to. 2236 01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:05.199 Kind of yell in, hey, is anybody home or whatever? 2237 01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:08.760 But regardless, they're denying that. There's no footage of it. 2238 01:51:09.119 --> 01:51:12.199 But the second thing I want to say is, unfortunately, 2239 01:51:12.680 --> 01:51:14.920 in a lot of states, you know what a pet's worth? 2240 01:51:15.279 --> 01:51:18.399 Does anybody? We all love pets, my god, we love 2241 01:51:18.439 --> 01:51:21.159 our dogs. We have two dogs, Dima, a Nico and 2242 01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:21.800 a cat. 2243 01:51:22.119 --> 01:51:22.920 A million mark. 2244 01:51:23.319 --> 01:51:26.479 Yes are to the person, they're worth everything, but their 2245 01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:27.800 private property. 2246 01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:28.920 It's property. 2247 01:51:29.199 --> 01:51:33.239 I hate to tell you that a German shepherd, if 2248 01:51:33.279 --> 01:51:36.239 it's got papers, is worth fifteen hundred to twenty five 2249 01:51:36.319 --> 01:51:39.199 hundred dollars. If you've got a mutt, it could be 2250 01:51:39.319 --> 01:51:43.840 worth fifty dollars. I mean, it's it's worth what it is. 2251 01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:47.920 It's property, it's tender, it's like currency, but it's a dog. 2252 01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:52.039 And I realize there's there's things there. So the damages 2253 01:51:52.119 --> 01:51:57.319 in this I just don't see any damages. It's a very, 2254 01:51:57.439 --> 01:52:01.600 very horrible circumstance, though, you got anything else because I 2255 01:52:01.640 --> 01:52:04.680 got to take a break before Shannon throws me through 2256 01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:05.239 a window. 2257 01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:05.800 I don't care. 2258 01:52:07.479 --> 01:52:10.720 Just one quick thing, Mark, you did an excellent job 2259 01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:13.600 on that concrete. I got those two people to call 2260 01:52:13.640 --> 01:52:18.000 on in because it was a major dispute on the concrete. 2261 01:52:18.079 --> 01:52:19.239 Call with Bob. 2262 01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:24.159 Yes, and you're not being a helic helicopter pilot. You 2263 01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:24.920 did a good job. 2264 01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:27.600 Well. I appreciate that, shopper. 2265 01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:29.880 All right, we got lines open. I'm dying to hear 2266 01:52:29.960 --> 01:52:31.840 from you. Give me something to sink my teeth into. 2267 01:52:32.159 --> 01:52:34.600 Three oh three seven one three eight two five five 2268 01:52:34.640 --> 01:52:37.119 three oh three Martino, and we're going to dive back 2269 01:52:37.159 --> 01:52:41.199 into this neuropathy and this new treatment from the folks 2270 01:52:41.279 --> 01:52:43.199 at Denver Region. I'm going to tell you a little 2271 01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:46.520 more about my diet, uh, my diet drugs two through 2272 01:52:46.600 --> 01:52:47.119 these guys. 2273 01:52:47.119 --> 01:52:49.199 These guys are great man, life changing. Hold on. 2274 01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:58.039 Five three oh three, Martino, this is so important. I 2275 01:52:58.800 --> 01:53:01.920 sometimes we talk about stuff and I just get very curious. 2276 01:53:01.960 --> 01:53:06.800 But I hadn't gotten no less than four emails about neuropathy. 2277 01:53:06.920 --> 01:53:10.840 In fact, doctor Joel, he's with Denver region. It really 2278 01:53:10.880 --> 01:53:13.439 is amazing to me how many people suffer from it. 2279 01:53:14.399 --> 01:53:17.920 And I guess the leading cause is being diabetic, right. 2280 01:53:18.119 --> 01:53:21.000 Yeah, most most patients with severe neuropathy in their feet 2281 01:53:21.119 --> 01:53:23.960 are suffering that from diabetic from issues. 2282 01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:25.479 Yeah, that that's crazy. 2283 01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:28.840 And you said the other extremities to your hands fingers, Yes, 2284 01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:29.439 and it's. 2285 01:53:29.279 --> 01:53:31.319 Like a sharp pain. People that have it, of course 2286 01:53:31.399 --> 01:53:31.920 know they have it. 2287 01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:36.560 You guys take stem cells along with I'm not going 2288 01:53:36.640 --> 01:53:39.840 to pretend to even remember what part of the secret 2289 01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:42.000 potion is, but what is it. 2290 01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:47.399 It's called MBT, which stands for microvascular tissue. 2291 01:53:46.880 --> 01:53:49.720 And fully it's all. It just got FDA proved a. 2292 01:53:49.640 --> 01:53:51.640 Few years two years ago for wound healing. 2293 01:53:52.079 --> 01:53:56.199 So it accelerates a wound and in this case blood 2294 01:53:56.680 --> 01:54:00.279 new blood vessel growth, new blood vessel growth to get 2295 01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:01.560 the blood flowing better. 2296 01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:02.159 Correct. 2297 01:54:02.359 --> 01:54:04.920 And then once the blood is flowing better in the foot, 2298 01:54:04.960 --> 01:54:08.800 for example, then the stem cells or even PRP or 2299 01:54:08.840 --> 01:54:14.800 whatever else is in what you guys use basically can 2300 01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:17.760 get to the affected bad nerve a lot easier because 2301 01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:19.199 the blood vessels open well. 2302 01:54:19.239 --> 01:54:22.000 The PRP combined with the stem cells are what's going 2303 01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:24.920 to affect the healing of the nerve, and that will 2304 01:54:24.920 --> 01:54:28.479 happen start happening right away because we're injecting it right 2305 01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:32.119 into that area. What the MBT will do will will 2306 01:54:32.159 --> 01:54:35.399 grow new blood vessels to that nerve that's healing, so 2307 01:54:35.439 --> 01:54:40.520 that long term, that won't become reaggravated and continue to 2308 01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:43.520 degenerate over time. So we're going to regenerate the nerve 2309 01:54:43.600 --> 01:54:45.239 and we're going to restore the blood flow so that 2310 01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:46.720 the nerve stays healthy so it. 2311 01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:50.119 Doesn't die again, correct or get into pain again. So 2312 01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:53.199 let's talk true results in all seriousness. 2313 01:54:53.239 --> 01:54:57.319 You told me might even been yesterday. 2314 01:54:57.880 --> 01:54:59.000 It was a few days ago. 2315 01:54:59.159 --> 01:55:01.760 Yeah, sometime like within the last week. 2316 01:55:01.800 --> 01:55:02.039 Though. 2317 01:55:02.439 --> 01:55:05.560 You had a couple patients, one of which had the 2318 01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:08.520 procedure done what in the last week two weeks? 2319 01:55:08.960 --> 01:55:09.159 Right? 2320 01:55:09.239 --> 01:55:14.000 So typically what I tell patients is to expect to 2321 01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:18.239 have significant improvement between weeks four and six. Four to 2322 01:55:18.279 --> 01:55:20.039 six weeks is about how long it takes to that's 2323 01:55:20.079 --> 01:55:21.920 incredible to really notice a difference. 2324 01:55:21.960 --> 01:55:24.239 How what do you mean significant? Let's say I want 2325 01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:26.279 to go back to the pain scale. I assume you 2326 01:55:26.319 --> 01:55:29.399 guys at some point ask somebody you know if your 2327 01:55:29.800 --> 01:55:31.840 your pain is here as a one. Here it's the 2328 01:55:31.880 --> 01:55:35.119 worst at a ten. So let's take on my scale there, 2329 01:55:35.199 --> 01:55:37.760 Let's say it's an eight. I mean, what are we 2330 01:55:37.840 --> 01:55:41.279 talking in four weeks? Is it possible that that's even 2331 01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:43.079 fifty percent better? 2332 01:55:43.800 --> 01:55:46.520 Yeah, it's likely that it's going to be sixty to 2333 01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:47.399 eighty percent better. 2334 01:55:47.560 --> 01:55:51.279 Sixty to eighty percent better, Yeah, in four weeks, Yes, 2335 01:55:51.800 --> 01:55:54.680 that's incredible. Does it ever get to the point where 2336 01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:59.199 that nerve is fully functional, not in pain, the blood's flowing, 2337 01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:02.760 and everything's good, meaning you don't have neuropathy anymore? 2338 01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:06.079 Certainly, certainly we've achieved those results with some of our patients. 2339 01:56:06.119 --> 01:56:08.119 A lot of it depends on how bad and how 2340 01:56:08.159 --> 01:56:10.880 long standing the neuropathy has been. But what we do 2341 01:56:10.960 --> 01:56:12.720 is when we sit down and we talk to each 2342 01:56:12.760 --> 01:56:15.359 one of our prospective patients, we tell them what we 2343 01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:17.800 think the expectation's going to be. So for every patient 2344 01:56:17.840 --> 01:56:19.439 that's going to be different. But the answer your question 2345 01:56:19.479 --> 01:56:22.880 is yes, we have many patients who have achieved complete, 2346 01:56:23.319 --> 01:56:27.039 absolute resolution of the neuropathy from this procedure, and. 2347 01:56:27.159 --> 01:56:30.399 Like, how many months to get to that kind of result? 2348 01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:31.720 That sounds incredible. 2349 01:56:31.720 --> 01:56:34.640 We've seen that happen anywhere from that four to six 2350 01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:37.439 week mark out to several months later because the stem 2351 01:56:37.439 --> 01:56:39.039 cells will continue to do the work. 2352 01:56:39.199 --> 01:56:41.039 They just keep going for like four to. 2353 01:56:41.039 --> 01:56:43.319 Six months after we've jested, even with just. 2354 01:56:43.279 --> 01:56:45.840 One treatment, even with just one how long does that take? 2355 01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:48.399 Is this like you go get checked into a hospital 2356 01:56:48.399 --> 01:56:50.800 and this is like a full day thing. 2357 01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:53.039 Is it painful? I mean, give me the skinny. 2358 01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:55.199 It's about an hour to two hours in our out 2359 01:56:55.239 --> 01:56:55.920 patient clinic. 2360 01:56:56.119 --> 01:56:56.680 That's it. 2361 01:56:56.760 --> 01:57:00.079 That's it, and the only pain is going to be 2362 01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:02.640 from the injections. But we numb the area that we're injecting. 2363 01:57:02.640 --> 01:57:03.960 We numb the skin with lytocine. 2364 01:57:03.960 --> 01:57:05.159 So it's like getting a shot. 2365 01:57:05.279 --> 01:57:07.720 It's like getting a shot. Well, you're getting sick shot. 2366 01:57:07.560 --> 01:57:08.039 But it's yeah. 2367 01:57:08.039 --> 01:57:10.479 I was gonna say you're getting multiple right, but that's 2368 01:57:10.520 --> 01:57:11.720 the extent of it. 2369 01:57:11.960 --> 01:57:13.760 Yes, And then you're. 2370 01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:16.520 Saying, well, let me just make it Cavia. We do 2371 01:57:16.520 --> 01:57:18.800 do a small blood draw at the beginning before we 2372 01:57:18.800 --> 01:57:20.920 do anything, so that we can extract the platelets from 2373 01:57:20.920 --> 01:57:22.560 the blood and add that to the stem cells. But 2374 01:57:22.600 --> 01:57:24.399 that's the blood draw with a small needle. 2375 01:57:24.479 --> 01:57:27.239 And then you were telling me people that are up 2376 01:57:27.279 --> 01:57:30.119 to like sixty years old or somewhere in there. 2377 01:57:30.159 --> 01:57:31.119 I forget the ages. 2378 01:57:31.199 --> 01:57:34.239 You can use their own stem cells, and then people 2379 01:57:34.279 --> 01:57:37.079 that are older that their stem cells might not be 2380 01:57:37.119 --> 01:57:39.319 in the best shape if you will you use basically 2381 01:57:39.399 --> 01:57:40.439 a donor stem cell. 2382 01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:43.279 Most of the foot neuropathy cases that we treat we 2383 01:57:43.359 --> 01:57:45.119 use donor cells, and the reason being is that most 2384 01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:48.079 foot neuropathy patients are in the older age group. 2385 01:57:48.279 --> 01:57:50.239 Just speak, that's just part of it. I get it, 2386 01:57:50.279 --> 01:57:51.520 because that's the age group. 2387 01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:55.399 So we do we do typically recommend to billcore donor 2388 01:57:55.439 --> 01:57:57.640 stem cells that we use in our procedure. Now, if 2389 01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:00.079 a patient is insisting that we use their own of 2390 01:58:00.159 --> 01:58:02.159 the technology and the capability to do that, or for 2391 01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:04.680 talking about a younger patient who's in great health, or 2392 01:58:04.720 --> 01:58:06.560 even an older patient that's in great health but just 2393 01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:09.720 happens to have this issue, then we will recommend using 2394 01:58:09.760 --> 01:58:13.399 their own cells. But typically neuropathy patient's going to be older, 2395 01:58:13.439 --> 01:58:15.359 and I got it, they're gonna have other you. 2396 01:58:15.359 --> 01:58:17.279 Want the younger stem cells, they're gonna be. 2397 01:58:17.319 --> 01:58:19.199 You know, they're gonna have diabetes, so there's their own 2398 01:58:19.239 --> 01:58:21.600 stem cells aren't gonna work as well as the donor cells. 2399 01:58:21.640 --> 01:58:23.560 Would you know what, Ray? Hold on? I got it. 2400 01:58:23.600 --> 01:58:25.960 I'm catching up on breaks here. Ray's got a question 2401 01:58:26.039 --> 01:58:28.159 for you, Doc, so hold on. But to me, it's 2402 01:58:28.199 --> 01:58:32.279 amazing just thinking that someone dealing with neuropathy. 2403 01:58:32.720 --> 01:58:34.079 And my dad had it. 2404 01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:36.920 Oh, it was like two visits ago, and he lost 2405 01:58:36.960 --> 01:58:40.079 a lot of weight and started eating better and doing stuff. 2406 01:58:40.119 --> 01:58:43.359 But his foot pain was crazy and I didn't quite 2407 01:58:43.439 --> 01:58:45.399 understand it at the time. This is going back a 2408 01:58:45.439 --> 01:58:49.760 couple of years, and it just looked miserable. I mean 2409 01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:52.680 I couldn't feel it, but I could see it. In fact, 2410 01:58:52.720 --> 01:58:56.159 his toes, his toes went backwards in a weird way. 2411 01:58:56.199 --> 01:58:59.159 I've never seen anything like that, and I'm not so 2412 01:58:59.199 --> 01:59:02.279 sure that'spathy that part of it. But his foot was 2413 01:59:02.319 --> 01:59:05.840 in pain, that was the bottom line. And it just 2414 01:59:05.880 --> 01:59:09.159 looks miserable. And to think someone can get this treatment 2415 01:59:09.279 --> 01:59:13.960 in under two hours and possibly be one hundred percent 2416 01:59:14.359 --> 01:59:17.479 within a couple months is mind blowing. And then being 2417 01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:21.479 eighty percent better in two to four weeks is insane. 2418 01:59:21.520 --> 01:59:24.760 Doc, four to six weeks, But four to six weeks, 2419 01:59:25.079 --> 01:59:27.640 and I will say, you know, anecdotally, recently since we 2420 01:59:27.680 --> 01:59:31.359 started adding the microvascular tissue, the results have spent. 2421 01:59:31.439 --> 01:59:33.239 Time frame has sped up, so we've had. 2422 01:59:33.239 --> 01:59:35.880 Because once again that opens up the blood. 2423 01:59:35.520 --> 01:59:38.520 Flow right and it creates new blood flow. So we've 2424 01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:40.760 had a couple of patients in the past month that 2425 01:59:40.840 --> 01:59:44.039 we treated that within that first week of treatment, we're 2426 01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:47.000 reporting to us significant improvement. Now that's not something that 2427 01:59:47.039 --> 01:59:49.600 we're going to promise every patient. They're going to get 2428 01:59:50.079 --> 01:59:53.319 our typical recommendation or or suggestions that they're going to 2429 01:59:53.600 --> 01:59:56.520 field significant relief at four to six weeks, but you know, 2430 01:59:56.560 --> 01:59:59.039 we're getting a number of patients getting better quicker than that. 2431 01:59:59.319 --> 02:00:01.800 Everybody hold tight, Denverregen dot com. 2432 02:00:01.840 --> 02:00:04.159 That's doctor Joel's place, and I use him for the 2433 02:00:04.159 --> 02:00:07.079 weight loss drug and my journey on that has been great. 2434 02:00:07.399 --> 02:00:10.720 And you're MD over there, doctor Honk, great guy. Everybody 2435 02:00:10.760 --> 02:00:20.560 hold tight, all right, renew windows. Let me look at 2436 02:00:20.600 --> 02:00:23.760 something here, folks. I'm sure I got three things on 2437 02:00:23.840 --> 02:00:25.479 my mind. Listen, I just want to get right to 2438 02:00:25.520 --> 02:00:30.000 this question. Honestly, for doctor Joel, I'm just amazed by 2439 02:00:30.039 --> 02:00:32.399 what we've been talking about. Oh did he drop off? 2440 02:00:32.520 --> 02:00:34.079 Wasn't that line too? Am I crazy? 2441 02:00:34.640 --> 02:00:34.800 Was that? 2442 02:00:34.960 --> 02:00:35.159 Ray? 2443 02:00:35.199 --> 02:00:36.199 He dropped off? Ray? 2444 02:00:36.279 --> 02:00:39.159 You waited that whole time then you dropped off? Or 2445 02:00:39.199 --> 02:00:39.960 is that still him? 2446 02:00:40.039 --> 02:00:40.359 Kelly? 2447 02:00:40.880 --> 02:00:41.079 Hey? 2448 02:00:41.119 --> 02:00:48.439 Ray? What's your question? Hey? Ray, you're up? What's your question? Sir? 2449 02:00:49.840 --> 02:00:54.079 Hey, thank you for taking Yes, sir, I've had teling 2450 02:00:54.680 --> 02:00:58.520 in my toes for the last couple of months, and 2451 02:00:58.840 --> 02:01:02.600 uh once in my doctor here and on Monday and 2452 02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:04.920 he said, basically they're going to send me up to 2453 02:01:06.239 --> 02:01:10.920 I believe a neurologist stuff at St. Anthony's north of 2454 02:01:11.800 --> 02:01:15.840 six and Sims. 2455 02:01:16.239 --> 02:01:18.079 My question is I. 2456 02:01:18.039 --> 02:01:21.479 Haven't heard the whole conversation since I've been driving, But 2457 02:01:22.920 --> 02:01:25.399 is any of this covered by health insurance? 2458 02:01:26.239 --> 02:01:26.359 No? 2459 02:01:26.680 --> 02:01:31.840 Unfortunately, you must get that question more than any other question. 2460 02:01:32.199 --> 02:01:33.279 When it comes to. 2461 02:01:33.159 --> 02:01:35.079 That, we get that question a lot. 2462 02:01:35.319 --> 02:01:35.359 No. 2463 02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:40.680 Unfortunately, health insurance doesn't cover any regenerative medicine procedures for anything, 2464 02:01:40.760 --> 02:01:46.039 for anything. I think they might cover PRP under Medicare. 2465 02:01:45.720 --> 02:01:46.520 I'm not sure. 2466 02:01:47.439 --> 02:01:49.600 But what we do to try and make it affordable 2467 02:01:49.640 --> 02:01:52.800 for our patients is we offer a number of different. 2468 02:01:54.239 --> 02:01:55.079 Financing programs. 2469 02:01:55.159 --> 02:01:57.119 Hey, Ray, And it's not that crazy. 2470 02:01:57.239 --> 02:01:59.960 I'm not going to get into pricing, because everybody can 2471 02:02:00.119 --> 02:02:03.000 be a little different. But it's not like it's not 2472 02:02:03.159 --> 02:02:05.960 like ten thousand dollars or anything. And if you can 2473 02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:08.800 stretch payments out and it gets rid of the pain, 2474 02:02:08.960 --> 02:02:10.479 I mean, it is what it is. 2475 02:02:10.520 --> 02:02:12.039 It's whatever it's worth to you. 2476 02:02:12.520 --> 02:02:14.239 Yeah, and it doesn't all go ahead. 2477 02:02:14.279 --> 02:02:16.439 I'm sorry, Ray, It's okay. 2478 02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:20.199 I'm not a pauper. You know, I'm retired. I'm sixty 2479 02:02:20.279 --> 02:02:21.079 eight years old. 2480 02:02:21.199 --> 02:02:23.880 And hey, how bad is your neuropathy? 2481 02:02:24.000 --> 02:02:24.199 Ray? 2482 02:02:24.279 --> 02:02:26.720 I mean, is it like on a scale to one 2483 02:02:26.760 --> 02:02:27.159 to ten? 2484 02:02:29.079 --> 02:02:32.119 Probably about two or three maybe? I mean, I have 2485 02:02:32.319 --> 02:02:38.960 tinglings under my toes the last couple of months. And 2486 02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:42.279 now they're they're going to refer me to Saint Anthony's 2487 02:02:42.359 --> 02:02:45.560 up in diss and Sims. 2488 02:02:46.239 --> 02:02:47.159 You know, they'll do some. 2489 02:02:47.159 --> 02:02:50.439 Testing, you know, I mean, this is all strange to me. 2490 02:02:50.640 --> 02:02:52.319 Hey, Doc, what do they so when? 2491 02:02:52.359 --> 02:02:56.680 He since, since insurance doesn't pay for these kinds of procedures, 2492 02:02:56.680 --> 02:02:59.000 it's just the way it is. Eventually they will be 2493 02:02:59.079 --> 02:03:02.760 in fact, I mean who knows when, but eventually, why 2494 02:03:02.800 --> 02:03:06.520 wouldn't they In fact, honestly, insurance companies are so stupid 2495 02:03:06.880 --> 02:03:09.560 because they almost wait until you might have to go 2496 02:03:09.640 --> 02:03:11.920 in and get your damn foot cut off or something 2497 02:03:12.159 --> 02:03:15.640 and have a massive surgery compared to fixing it when 2498 02:03:15.680 --> 02:03:19.119 it just starts off like Ray, right, it's really crazy 2499 02:03:19.119 --> 02:03:21.359 and that goes for way more than just stem cells. 2500 02:03:21.359 --> 02:03:21.720 Correct. 2501 02:03:22.159 --> 02:03:23.600 So but let let me ask you this. 2502 02:03:23.960 --> 02:03:26.159 Typically, what do they do if you go through your 2503 02:03:26.319 --> 02:03:30.279 your standard practitioner, what do they do for neuropathy? 2504 02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:33.680 Well, they're going to do what's called an EMG test, 2505 02:03:34.359 --> 02:03:36.960 and that just measures how fast the nerves are firing, 2506 02:03:37.359 --> 02:03:38.520 how well they're functioning. 2507 02:03:38.680 --> 02:03:40.000 Okay, and let's say they suck. 2508 02:03:40.159 --> 02:03:43.840 Then what then you're looking at medications. 2509 02:03:43.680 --> 02:03:47.319 So then they they basically pump you fully drugs. Yeah, 2510 02:03:47.479 --> 02:03:51.199 they try to treat. They're treating the pain. They're not 2511 02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:53.359 They're they're treating the pain, not the problem. 2512 02:03:53.600 --> 02:03:55.920 Great, they're they're like with a lot of medicine, they're 2513 02:03:55.960 --> 02:03:57.159 treating the symptom, not the cause. 2514 02:03:57.319 --> 02:03:59.119 Yeah, Ray, I'd look into it. 2515 02:03:59.199 --> 02:04:01.319 I'd call over there and you were saying some about 2516 02:04:01.359 --> 02:04:03.600 pricing when I said it's not over ten thousand. 2517 02:04:04.279 --> 02:04:07.000 Yeah, well it's going to range depending on how much 2518 02:04:07.000 --> 02:04:08.960 we need to do. But you know, it doesn't cost 2519 02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:12.479 anything to get a consultation with us to our clinic 2520 02:04:12.520 --> 02:04:14.880 Denver region dot com or go to our website, give 2521 02:04:14.920 --> 02:04:16.840 us a call, we'll get back to the same day. 2522 02:04:17.159 --> 02:04:19.720 You'll speak with our patient coordinator. They'll get all the 2523 02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:21.680 information they need from you, and then we'll get that 2524 02:04:21.760 --> 02:04:23.880 over to our doc to do an evaluation. And I 2525 02:04:23.880 --> 02:04:25.439 want to let you know, is it's something that we 2526 02:04:25.439 --> 02:04:27.560 can treat, if it's something that we can't treat, If 2527 02:04:27.560 --> 02:04:30.439 it's something oftentimes, we might need some more testing or 2528 02:04:30.439 --> 02:04:31.960 some more imaging to determine that. 2529 02:04:32.039 --> 02:04:32.960 And that's all free. 2530 02:04:33.119 --> 02:04:35.760 Yeah, to take that consultation will cost nothing. 2531 02:04:35.880 --> 02:04:39.960 One last question, Go ahead, all right, so you're telling 2532 02:04:40.000 --> 02:04:44.079 me and this is news to me, Okay, yes, so 2533 02:04:44.399 --> 02:04:48.239 you know although it's not surprising. Go ahead, Ray, they're 2534 02:04:48.279 --> 02:04:50.840 gonna treat me with drugs, is what you're saying. 2535 02:04:51.600 --> 02:04:54.920 Yes, traditionally, Yes, they're going to see how much nerve 2536 02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:57.720 damage is there by whatever that test what do you 2537 02:04:57.760 --> 02:05:01.560 call it em an EMG test, an EMG test, they'll 2538 02:05:01.560 --> 02:05:05.479 get the results of it. Then they will prescribe some 2539 02:05:05.720 --> 02:05:08.520 form of medication to help you with the tingling or 2540 02:05:08.520 --> 02:05:11.319 the pain, depending on how that test comes back. 2541 02:05:11.399 --> 02:05:12.840 That's usually what they do. 2542 02:05:13.039 --> 02:05:15.239 Right, There's really nothing that they can offer that's going 2543 02:05:15.319 --> 02:05:17.039 to regenerate that nerve that they. 2544 02:05:16.880 --> 02:05:19.439 Just simply don't pay for that, So therefore it won't 2545 02:05:19.439 --> 02:05:21.199 even be an option when you go there. 2546 02:05:22.000 --> 02:05:22.720 All right, So. 2547 02:05:23.079 --> 02:05:28.680 If I neglect to go with them, what difference of 2548 02:05:28.800 --> 02:05:30.920 treatment are you going to provide for me? 2549 02:05:31.439 --> 02:05:33.079 So Ray, listen to what we're saying. 2550 02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:36.479 The treatment these guys at Denver Region, what they do 2551 02:05:37.159 --> 02:05:39.880 is they go in and fix the problem. When the 2552 02:05:39.960 --> 02:05:43.920 problem's fixed, you won't have the tingle, the tingles or 2553 02:05:43.960 --> 02:05:47.079 the pain anymore. They don't They're not treating the pain. 2554 02:05:47.640 --> 02:05:51.600 They're literally fixing the nerve damage to make the nerve 2555 02:05:51.760 --> 02:05:54.000 grow again so the pain goes away. 2556 02:05:55.439 --> 02:06:00.720 Okay, So I don't mean to sound stupid. Yeah, how 2557 02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:05.319 did they do that differently? As far astrea, I haven't 2558 02:06:05.319 --> 02:06:07.760 heard the whole story because I just got out on 2559 02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:08.760 line with you guys. 2560 02:06:08.840 --> 02:06:10.479 Yeah, that's all right, Ray, hold on, I'm going to 2561 02:06:10.479 --> 02:06:12.920 put you Here's what I want, Ray, because I got 2562 02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:17.159 a break. But Ray, Kelly, make sure Ray has a 2563 02:06:17.199 --> 02:06:20.800 phone number over to Denver REGT and they will talk 2564 02:06:20.840 --> 02:06:23.159 to him about every bit of this over the phone. 2565 02:06:23.199 --> 02:06:25.680 They'll go over the whole thing. Ray, I just simply 2566 02:06:25.720 --> 02:06:28.800 can't recap everything. Plus I have to take this break. 2567 02:06:29.039 --> 02:06:31.920 But it sounds like it's perfect. I mean, really, someone 2568 02:06:31.960 --> 02:06:34.800 on the scale it's starting out, Doc, I mean this 2569 02:06:34.840 --> 02:06:37.119 guy could see results so fast. 2570 02:06:37.159 --> 02:06:37.800 It's nuts. 2571 02:06:38.600 --> 02:06:40.279 Well, the sooner that you treat that. 2572 02:06:40.760 --> 02:06:43.279 Yeah, the sooner you do it, the better that you 2573 02:06:43.359 --> 02:06:43.800 treat that. 2574 02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:44.119 The better. 2575 02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:46.600 And we just need to do a few things to 2576 02:06:47.079 --> 02:06:47.920 evaluate it make sure. 2577 02:06:47.960 --> 02:06:52.239 All right, I got to take this Listen. 2578 02:06:52.319 --> 02:06:56.640 We've been talking to doctor Joel cherdak Denverregen dot com. 2579 02:06:56.680 --> 02:06:58.960 You have any questions on the neuropathy. I love the 2580 02:06:59.000 --> 02:07:02.159 fact you guys just a one hundred percent free assessment. 2581 02:07:02.279 --> 02:07:04.119 You talk to them, tell them about it. 2582 02:07:04.159 --> 02:07:07.720 But it really drives me crazy, doc, thinking how our 2583 02:07:07.880 --> 02:07:12.079 primary care physicians and other people, all they simply do 2584 02:07:12.239 --> 02:07:15.319 is they test you for the neuropathy, make sure it's there, 2585 02:07:15.399 --> 02:07:16.880 then they put you on a painkiller. 2586 02:07:17.119 --> 02:07:18.800 Basically, Yes, I mean that's. 2587 02:07:18.560 --> 02:07:21.279 Insane to me. You guys can go in and fix it, 2588 02:07:21.600 --> 02:07:25.039 and insurance should cover it. It really should. Our insurance 2589 02:07:25.039 --> 02:07:28.960 in this country is absolutely ridiculous. They'd be way better 2590 02:07:29.000 --> 02:07:33.399 off treating stuff permanently than trying to mask it up or. 2591 02:07:33.359 --> 02:07:36.159 Getting someone addicted. To opiates or something. 2592 02:07:36.159 --> 02:07:38.920 And I'm not saying they give them opiates, but my god, 2593 02:07:39.039 --> 02:07:42.439 pain medication. People out there, listen if you suffer from 2594 02:07:42.479 --> 02:07:45.119 neuropathy or if you're like me and want to lose 2595 02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:48.159 that weight, which by the way, thirty five pounds at 2596 02:07:48.199 --> 02:07:52.319 a very quick amount of time. Denverregen dot com, Denverregen 2597 02:07:52.399 --> 02:07:55.079 dot com, We're going to have an update tomorrow for 2598 02:07:55.119 --> 02:07:59.520 you on that engine rebuilder, hopefully first. 2599 02:07:59.319 --> 02:08:01.439 Thing in the morning. My name's Mark Major. This is 2600 02:08:01.720 --> 02:08:09.119 the Troubleshooter Network. 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