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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine anything that would get you to stop

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<v Speaker 1>eating meat? And when I say meat, I mean steak, beef, pork, anything, chicken, meat, meat.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is going vegetarian, not having to go vegan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, correct, I mean I mean that that would be

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<v Speaker 1>your choice with how far you wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, like just becoming a non meat eater.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean unless it was like a hard and fest

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<v Speaker 4>order from a doctor where you're like, listen, you are

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<v Speaker 4>in a bad way. If you want to live, you

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<v Speaker 4>got to go vegetarian.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a fair answer. I'll accept that as a name.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see that in your future. No, you're too healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could. That is a fair answer as to

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<v Speaker 1>what would get somebody to stop you eat meat.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen you eat meat.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Tyler's backed off on it. Never last year, Elliott,

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<v Speaker 2>you're forgetting you for a couple of weeks claimed well

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<v Speaker 2>because it was you and your immature you claimed I

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<v Speaker 2>had gone vegetarian. But do you remember that you kept

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<v Speaker 2>saying vegetarian.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, but you but you do eat meat.

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<v Speaker 2>I do eat meat. But I could definitely if a

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<v Speaker 2>doctor told me. Doctor's orders all the time. But if

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<v Speaker 2>someone said.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, told Diane she was gonna die if she ate me.

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<v Speaker 2>For your well being, I would definitely cut it out.

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<v Speaker 2>That was sort of the reason that I have limited

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<v Speaker 2>myself since a check up last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you still eat chicken, you still eat pork.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I could definitely. Going back to a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, I told you about the PTSD workers in slaughterhouses,

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<v Speaker 2>face right, and I got messages from people that said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I'll ever eat meat again. So could

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<v Speaker 2>could I perhaps be exposed to the horrors of that

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<v Speaker 2>industry so much so that I can't move forward?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But those I couldn't vision that, I couldn't, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's there's like yes, there are every so often

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<v Speaker 1>you see like a bad, grainy video that comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of a hyeah. Yeah, and that hasn't stopped me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if I was in one, I would never

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<v Speaker 3>go visit a slaughterhouse. God, now, I would never go

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<v Speaker 3>visit a slaughterhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say I was scheduling it for a weekend trip.

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<v Speaker 2>But if for some reason I had to, it may

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<v Speaker 2>be so awful that I couldn't remember the picture I

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<v Speaker 2>painted of the skinning of the cow who was delivering

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<v Speaker 2>the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's right, that's right. Yeah, No, that's bad, that's bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Has anybody that reminds me? Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Has anybody seen what is the documentary called Dominion?

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<v Speaker 3>Have we talked about dominion before?

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<v Speaker 2>Dominion sound familiar?

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<v Speaker 3>Dominion? Dominion doesn't have that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many things named that the uh newer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how old it is. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how old it is. Is this twenty eighteen, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's relatively new.

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<v Speaker 4>Drones and hidden cameras, insign Australian slaughterhouses and macro farms.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't somebody famous voice?

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<v Speaker 5>It?

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't there a famous voice?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it's not Leev Schreiber. I'd listened to it. Don

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<v Speaker 4>Joaquin Phoenix?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe is he a vegetarian?

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<v Speaker 2>If you're doing this movie, by the.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you would have to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, although you know what, for the right paycheck, I

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<v Speaker 1>would do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey don't eat meat, y'all?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't want to see sad little piggies.

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<v Speaker 1>The no. No, But they said, we're like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>go back to if you go back to like the

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<v Speaker 1>slaughterhouse videos where a lot of them are grainy and

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<v Speaker 1>snuck in and it's like a lapel camera or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Dominion from what I was reading, is very

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<v Speaker 1>very like high Death and like like right up close.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't watch it, but they said that one compared

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<v Speaker 1>to like all the other slaughterhouse videos that you see,

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<v Speaker 1>Dominion is like it gets you, like they said you

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<v Speaker 1>could see. And I guess like they talk about like

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<v Speaker 1>the pigs and stuff and listen, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>goes on in the slaughterhouse. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>what I read about what you see in Dominion is

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<v Speaker 1>true or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it could just be hyperbole.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't really believe they just throw the pigs

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, anyway, you've made me vegetarian for the weekend. No way,

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<v Speaker 6>no way.

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<v Speaker 1>But so I was reading this thing yesterday where they

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about as much push as there has been

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<v Speaker 1>in the last let's call it handful of years to

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<v Speaker 1>back off on meat, on meat eating. You have impossible,

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<v Speaker 1>this impossible, meatless, mondays the tofu what is it? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the what is the sister two? Impossible like impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>Meatyond beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>We more meat now than we've ever eaten in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, Yeah, ingrats, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Meat meat consumption is is higher than ever. And they

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<v Speaker 1>said there's been so much push over the last like

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll say close to a decade, like all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff about like free range and slaughterhouses and food food

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<v Speaker 1>plants and stuff like that, for all of the press

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<v Speaker 1>around that, and for all of the hype around impossible

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond and like all that other crap. We more

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<v Speaker 1>meat now than ever before. So that begged the question

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything that would make you stop?

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<v Speaker 3>And if I'm answering, honestly, I think the answer.

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<v Speaker 6>Is no, even if a doctor told you, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean that that to me, I know it's extreme.

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<v Speaker 6>That is that is an extreme case. I never though,

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<v Speaker 6>but that would really that would really be it. I

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<v Speaker 6>never found myself craving meat.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you serious? Wait, you don't crave it?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really have food cravings like I'll be hungry

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<v Speaker 2>or oh I need to eat. But it's not something

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<v Speaker 2>that I then seek out because I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>really need to have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like all week I've been further from that.

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<v Speaker 2>All we could have been craving a beer and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to have a beer today. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>drink during the week, so I do have alcohol cravings.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you know there was a problem when I

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<v Speaker 2>stated that out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>No, So, yeah, no, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>That, But I never when it comes to meat. So

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody provided me with a source of protein, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have, and even if it was something a little

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Remember years ago we talked to the author

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<v Speaker 2>of the book on eating insects. Right, if that kind

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<v Speaker 2>and if stuff became more commonplace, I wouldn't be opposed.

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<v Speaker 1>To it, to being a vegetarian.

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<v Speaker 2>To a welcoming differents into my diet, right because I

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<v Speaker 2>really never say to myself I need a hamburger or

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<v Speaker 2>I need chicken, or it's it's it's not something I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh god, let's go get a steak.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know what, I'm with you part of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I won't sit there and go like I am

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<v Speaker 1>craving a steak, but I will go, oh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what sounds good for dinner tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Steak a potato. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, but it's not because I'm craving just it's because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm craving a meal.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>There is meat in the meal. Why because I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>a vegetarian.

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<v Speaker 2>This says that animal rights groups have largely given up

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<v Speaker 2>on trying to change people's diets, thank you, because it

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<v Speaker 2>was ineffective. Yes, we more meat than ever. Since the seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>advocates poured a lot of resources into persuading people to

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<v Speaker 2>go vegetarian or vegan, expensive advertising campaigns, pamphlets, lectures, letters.

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<v Speaker 2>But now they've shifted their focus towards banning some of

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<v Speaker 2>these And you alluded to them egregious factory farm practices.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So their whole mission now is instead of changing

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<v Speaker 1>people one by one, it's changing mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've changed trying to change the system versus the

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<v Speaker 2>people within the food chain.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I never think about in credit to me? No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I never think about. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I never think about like that. What's the old

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<v Speaker 1>expression how the sausage is made. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>happens to pigs based on dominion. They just throw them

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<v Speaker 1>against walls.

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<v Speaker 4>If I think about like steak or burger, it'll ruin

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<v Speaker 4>it for me for a couple of day.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of how it's done. Nope, But the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a cow crave them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you think about they take that cow and

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<v Speaker 1>they bolt him, then you're like, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't do this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the baby cows the oh veal? Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, how big of you?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I just because of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because of what?

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's baby cows and they're they're brutalized.

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<v Speaker 3>As opposed to the pigs that are just thrown against

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<v Speaker 3>the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think a pig's that way.

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<v Speaker 3>What is if meal is a baby cow? Is there

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<v Speaker 3>a baby piglet?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>What do I? Yeah? What do I eat there?

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like like and the answer may be nothing. The

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<v Speaker 1>answer may be nothing. But if because everybody does there like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I won't eat veal, I won't eat veal.

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<v Speaker 3>I had veal last weekend. It was fantastic. I love.

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<v Speaker 2>Would this be a suckling pig?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I've ever had, but I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that was the baby?

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<v Speaker 3>What is? What is suckling pig? Have I had that?

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely had pork?

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<v Speaker 2>Rinds says this says that the tenderness and the incomparable

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<v Speaker 2>moistness is something you cannot find in any other dish.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm craving. I want a suckling pig.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta know what that But but you don't get

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<v Speaker 3>the whole pig.

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<v Speaker 6>Baby ham not I love ham.

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<v Speaker 2>You definitely have it with its legs out and it

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<v Speaker 2>served to you. It looks like it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very Spanish.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it get served like a like like a like

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<v Speaker 3>a cornish hen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Or like squab the claw?

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay, Diane, that's a pigeon. That's a pigeon.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is big in it says Spain, Italy, Germany

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<v Speaker 2>and Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Who that?

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<v Speaker 3>Who they want?

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<v Speaker 2>That?

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<v Speaker 1>They want that cycling pig? No, Gretna, looks like pigs

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<v Speaker 3>Where am I going? Christen? You'll nothing wouldn't get you

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<v Speaker 3>to stop eating meat? No, thank you? Kristin Her, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. Hi, Elliott the morning?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this me?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's this?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 7>This is Mallory. I was calm because like twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 7>when I was a vegetarian, I read the book Dominion,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's actually by Matthew Scully, who was like the

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<v Speaker 7>senior speechwriter for Bush for a year, right, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>going over like how humans domain, you know, are dominant

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<v Speaker 7>of the earth. But then also it touches on like

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<v Speaker 7>then also goes back to like religious you know, teachings

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<v Speaker 7>that men is higher than animals.

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<v Speaker 2>Regardless.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a really thick book.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's very good.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm not a vegetari anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I just got hungry.

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<v Speaker 4>What was the first meal that switched you?

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<v Speaker 7>Taco bell I.

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<v Speaker 3>Had a girl, a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you just think, like I'm renting the food,

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<v Speaker 7>Hey what is the I mean, it's not really pure

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<v Speaker 7>beef anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>So is is dominion? What flipped you to vegetarian?

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<v Speaker 7>Though?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh No, I saw the videos when I was young, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>it's Peda videos, you know, And yeah, I just I

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<v Speaker 8>spent time at like farm sanctuary when I was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 8>still when I was a vegetarian of like rescued farm animals,

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<v Speaker 8>dogs and cats are you know, pets, but the other

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<v Speaker 8>farm animals they're very friendly now their own personalities, but

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<v Speaker 8>you know, to each their own I was never the

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<v Speaker 8>on anybody else, because that's just I mean listening, you know, be.

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<v Speaker 3>A vegetarian, be a vegetarian. I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Very good, very good, Thank you, ma'am, thank you, yes, Kyler.

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<v Speaker 2>I continue to read about Coach and Eel, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the oh you're into the suckling buckling pig in Spain,

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<v Speaker 2>which apparently Ernest Hemingway loved, but it says customers are

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<v Speaker 2>incredulous that it is even pork because it evokes tastes

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<v Speaker 2>of duck or really moist turkey. And then it's sealed

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<v Speaker 2>by this crispy outer skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh see, now, can I tell you what's going through

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<v Speaker 2>Crispy skin?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, you know what, you know, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>good while I'm watching the draft tonight, peking Gourmet load

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<v Speaker 1>up on a duck. That sounds good. Now everybody keeps

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning steak. You know where I want to go? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>like now now I'm craving ato' one chop house and

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<v Speaker 1>Tysons fantastic, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Says when it's butterflied, is rubbed with olive oil, garlic, salt,

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<v Speaker 2>Cooked in two stages, once for about an hour in

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<v Speaker 2>a clay dish alongside the fire or on a grate,

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<v Speaker 2>and later after it is cool to brown the skin.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, Peggy, Peggy, pe Piggy peey, Here Peggy Peggy.

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<v Speaker 2>Pek Christin. What was the experiment you were a part

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<v Speaker 2>of in Collins?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, let's turn Kristin on. This will be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh was it beating up vegetarians? Yes, hi, Kristen, good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>What were you in in college? We I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 5>What class it was, if it was my ethics class

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<v Speaker 5>or what, but a I remember my whole class was

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<v Speaker 5>sitting there and our teacher was like, hey, so we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna put our books away today. We have a documentary

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to watch. And it was like based off

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<v Speaker 5>of the slaughterhouses and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So on the huge pro how about write a note

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<v Speaker 3>and get me out of that.

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<v Speaker 5>So on the big projection screen, we watched this movie.

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<v Speaker 5>It was over an hour, and the creators and the

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<v Speaker 5>producers of all the movie were there and they were

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<v Speaker 5>they went around to each of us and we're like

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<v Speaker 5>drilling it. Now are you gonna eat meat, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>all like, yeah. I think there was maybe one girl

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<v Speaker 1>Like, okay, for those of you that don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>glossary book at home, that's a whiney ass bitch, weak

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, weak ass bitch.

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<v Speaker 5>But then the rest of us were like, hey, you

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<v Speaker 5>guys want to go for burgers? And we left the

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<v Speaker 3>So I was in this thing that I was reading.

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<v Speaker 1>They showed a bunch of They showed a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people that Dominion movie and just kind of followed up

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<v Speaker 1>with them. For some people, it had about a week

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<v Speaker 1>long effect and that was it, and then everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>was right back into uh eating the food, right back

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<v Speaker 2>Short lived.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and again more than ever and all you've heard.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see those pictures of the cows that have

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<v Speaker 3>Out, Yeah, awesome, I got no problem with that. The

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's anything that would get me to

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<v Speaker 1>stop eating meat. I can't think of anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And for this thing you read, is that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the conclusion They came to that with all these options of.

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<v Speaker 1>And options and I don't want to say education information,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that and the push for over a decade

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<v Speaker 1>and how hard it was, and yes, meatless mondays and

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<v Speaker 1>impossible this and beyond that and foe this and tofu

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. We eat more meat than ever And so

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<v Speaker 1>even this whole thing that I read was is it

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<v Speaker 1>even possible to convince people to stop eating meat?

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<v Speaker 3>Desprite all the problems with meat, we are eating more

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<v Speaker 3>and more of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they go on and say could this change

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<v Speaker 1>people's mind? They get into dominion, and the answer when

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<v Speaker 1>they'd showed dominion people was no. Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Kristen, I will say the documentary was like, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my gosh, I can't believe the animals are mistreated

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<v Speaker 5>so badly. I do know it's not like that everywhere, sure,

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<v Speaker 5>but all I wanted was a burger.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you, I hear you. I'd eat while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching the movie. WHOA see myself doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Time from Feliciano. We are serving suckling pig today

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<v Speaker 2>at the Virginia Portuguese Community Center. You are welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>come by and try it for lunch. Jam Buenos the

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<v Speaker 2>US count me there. That sounds great. Where is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you familiar with that center?

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<v Speaker 3>The I am not.

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<v Speaker 2>You've never done events with them in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not, and uh will they will? They have

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<v Speaker 1>the draft on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's lunch oh okay, and it's in Manassas.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, look at.

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<v Speaker 1>That America's most Livable Community home of the suckling Pig,

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<v Speaker 1>Line five. That is at that is our community animal.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Elliott, the morning.

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<v Speaker 9>Elliott, Yes, sir, uh, I was just calling about the

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<v Speaker 9>suckling pig.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>It is probably the most delicious piece of meat I

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<v Speaker 9>have ever tried my entire life, and I have tried

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<v Speaker 9>everything from alligator to crocodile to dog to all kinds

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<v Speaker 9>of different meats. It is like fall off the bone delicious.

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<v Speaker 9>It is the most amazing thing you can ever try

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<v Speaker 9>in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Tyler is Tyler right? Though it doesn't taste like ham, it's.

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<v Speaker 9>Not like a ham. I still think it tasted like ports,

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<v Speaker 9>but not as not as uh not as strong as

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<v Speaker 9>a ham flavor.

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<v Speaker 7>It was more.

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<v Speaker 9>It was much more subtle. It's similar to like a

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<v Speaker 9>veal and a beef. Like if you get an eighth

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<v Speaker 9>piece of beef. It has a real strong flavor to it.

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<v Speaker 9>But that piece of beal is just like sweet and succulent.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, so is it like?

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, it's easy with It's easy when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about it's easy when you talk about pigs

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff to go to like ham and bacon. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell me you wouldn't crush a pork chop right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I love pork chops, of.

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<v Speaker 9>Course, two or three of them with you, mother, than

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<v Speaker 9>buggers and gravy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go all right, dude, I appreciate it, Thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Tyler.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see the name of this video about to

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<v Speaker 2>play on the Titan tron. I cannot suckling pig is

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<v Speaker 2>so tender. It's cut by plates.

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<v Speaker 3>He's taking a plate and just stabbing at it. Can

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<v Speaker 3>you put it up on the screen. Diane has to

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<v Speaker 3>see this. Diane has to see this.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on, so paint this picture of what I'm about

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<v Speaker 4>to see. He's using the side of a plate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, cut, yes, and there's just a dinner plate and

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<v Speaker 1>he's just.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he throws look at him and then he

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<v Speaker 3>throws the plate.

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<v Speaker 2>O big man with your metal.

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<v Speaker 3>The oh Diane, he's eating a piece of pork,
