Speaker 1: Can you imagine anything that would get you to stop
Speaker 1: eating meat? And when I say meat, I mean steak, beef, pork, anything, chicken, meat, meat.
Speaker 2: So this is going vegetarian, not having to go vegan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, I mean I mean that that would be
Speaker 1: your choice with how far you wanted to go.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like just becoming a non meat eater.
Speaker 4: I mean unless it was like a hard and fest
Speaker 4: order from a doctor where you're like, listen, you are
Speaker 4: in a bad way. If you want to live, you
Speaker 4: got to go vegetarian.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a fair answer. I'll accept that as a name.
Speaker 1: I don't see that in your future. No, you're too healthy,
Speaker 1: but I could. That is a fair answer as to
Speaker 1: what would get somebody to stop you eat meat.
Speaker 3: I've seen you eat meat.
Speaker 2: Well, Tyler's backed off on it. Never last year, Elliott,
Speaker 2: you're forgetting you for a couple of weeks claimed well
Speaker 2: because it was you and your immature you claimed I
Speaker 2: had gone vegetarian. But do you remember that you kept
Speaker 2: saying vegetarian.
Speaker 3: That's right, but you but you do eat meat.
Speaker 2: I do eat meat. But I could definitely if a
Speaker 2: doctor told me. Doctor's orders all the time. But if
Speaker 2: someone said.
Speaker 3: Well, told Diane she was gonna die if she ate me.
Speaker 2: For your well being, I would definitely cut it out.
Speaker 2: That was sort of the reason that I have limited
Speaker 2: myself since a check up last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you still eat chicken, you still eat pork.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I could definitely. Going back to a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago, I told you about the PTSD workers in slaughterhouses,
Speaker 2: face right, and I got messages from people that said,
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever eat meat again. So could
Speaker 2: could I perhaps be exposed to the horrors of that
Speaker 2: industry so much so that I can't move forward?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But those I couldn't vision that, I couldn't, you know what,
Speaker 1: Like there's there's like yes, there are every so often
Speaker 1: you see like a bad, grainy video that comes out
Speaker 1: of a hyeah. Yeah, and that hasn't stopped me.
Speaker 3: I think if I was in one, I would never
Speaker 3: go visit a slaughterhouse. God, now, I would never go
Speaker 3: visit a slaughterhouse.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't say I was scheduling it for a weekend trip.
Speaker 2: But if for some reason I had to, it may
Speaker 2: be so awful that I couldn't remember the picture I
Speaker 2: painted of the skinning of the cow who was delivering
Speaker 2: the baby.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, that's right. Yeah, No, that's bad, that's bad.
Speaker 3: Has anybody that reminds me? Though?
Speaker 1: Has anybody seen what is the documentary called Dominion?
Speaker 3: Have we talked about dominion before?
Speaker 2: Dominion sound familiar?
Speaker 3: Dominion? Dominion doesn't have that.
Speaker 2: There's so many things named that the uh newer.
Speaker 1: I don't know how old it is. I don't know
Speaker 1: how old it is. Is this twenty eighteen, I mean
Speaker 1: that's relatively new.
Speaker 4: Drones and hidden cameras, insign Australian slaughterhouses and macro farms.
Speaker 3: Doesn't somebody famous voice?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 3: Isn't there a famous voice?
Speaker 4: Oh it's not Leev Schreiber. I'd listened to it. Don
Speaker 4: Joaquin Phoenix?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Maybe is he a vegetarian?
Speaker 2: If you're doing this movie, by the.
Speaker 3: Oh you would have to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although you know what, for the right paycheck, I
Speaker 1: would do it.
Speaker 3: Hey don't eat meat, y'all?
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't want to see sad little piggies.
Speaker 1: The no. No, But they said, we're like, if you
Speaker 1: go back to if you go back to like the
Speaker 1: slaughterhouse videos where a lot of them are grainy and
Speaker 1: snuck in and it's like a lapel camera or something.
Speaker 1: I guess Dominion from what I was reading, is very
Speaker 1: very like high Death and like like right up close.
Speaker 3: I've never seen it.
Speaker 1: I won't watch it, but they said that one compared
Speaker 1: to like all the other slaughterhouse videos that you see,
Speaker 1: Dominion is like it gets you, like they said you
Speaker 1: could see. And I guess like they talk about like
Speaker 1: the pigs and stuff and listen, I don't know what
Speaker 1: goes on in the slaughterhouse. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: what I read about what you see in Dominion is
Speaker 1: true or not.
Speaker 3: I mean, it could just be hyperbole.
Speaker 1: Like I don't really believe they just throw the pigs
Speaker 1: against walls.
Speaker 6: Anyway, anyway, you've made me vegetarian for the weekend. No way,
Speaker 6: no way.
Speaker 1: But so I was reading this thing yesterday where they
Speaker 1: were talking about as much push as there has been
Speaker 1: in the last let's call it handful of years to
Speaker 1: back off on meat, on meat eating. You have impossible,
Speaker 1: this impossible, meatless, mondays the tofu what is it? What's
Speaker 1: the what is the sister two? Impossible like impossible.
Speaker 2: Meatyond beyond.
Speaker 3: We more meat now than we've ever eaten in our lives.
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, ingrats, guys.
Speaker 1: Meat meat consumption is is higher than ever. And they
Speaker 1: said there's been so much push over the last like
Speaker 1: they'll they'll say close to a decade, like all the
Speaker 1: stuff about like free range and slaughterhouses and food food
Speaker 1: plants and stuff like that, for all of the press
Speaker 1: around that, and for all of the hype around impossible
Speaker 1: and beyond and like all that other crap. We more
Speaker 1: meat now than ever before. So that begged the question
Speaker 1: is there anything that would make you stop?
Speaker 3: And if I'm answering, honestly, I think the answer.
Speaker 6: Is no, even if a doctor told you, yeah, no,
Speaker 6: I mean that that to me, I know it's extreme.
Speaker 6: That is that is an extreme case. I never though,
Speaker 6: but that would really that would really be it. I
Speaker 6: never found myself craving meat.
Speaker 3: Are you serious? Wait, you don't crave it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I don't really have food cravings like I'll be hungry
Speaker 2: or oh I need to eat. But it's not something
Speaker 2: that I then seek out because I feel like I
Speaker 2: really need to have it.
Speaker 3: Like all week I've been further from that.
Speaker 2: All we could have been craving a beer and I
Speaker 2: can't wait to have a beer today. But I don't
Speaker 2: drink during the week, so I do have alcohol cravings.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: When did you know there was a problem when I
Speaker 2: stated that out loud.
Speaker 3: No, So, yeah, no, I understand.
Speaker 2: That, But I never when it comes to meat. So
Speaker 2: if somebody provided me with a source of protein, and
Speaker 2: they have, and even if it was something a little
Speaker 2: out there. Remember years ago we talked to the author
Speaker 2: of the book on eating insects. Right, if that kind
Speaker 2: and if stuff became more commonplace, I wouldn't be opposed.
Speaker 1: To it, to being a vegetarian.
Speaker 2: To a welcoming differents into my diet, right because I
Speaker 2: really never say to myself I need a hamburger or
Speaker 2: I need chicken, or it's it's it's not something I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh god, let's go get a steak.
Speaker 1: No, you know what, I'm with you part of the way,
Speaker 1: Like I won't sit there and go like I am
Speaker 1: craving a steak, but I will go, oh, you know
Speaker 1: what sounds good for dinner tonight?
Speaker 3: Steak a potato. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, but it's not because I'm craving just it's because
Speaker 1: I'm craving a meal.
Speaker 2: This is really interesting.
Speaker 1: There is meat in the meal. Why because I ain't
Speaker 1: a vegetarian.
Speaker 2: This says that animal rights groups have largely given up
Speaker 2: on trying to change people's diets, thank you, because it
Speaker 2: was ineffective. Yes, we more meat than ever. Since the seventies,
Speaker 2: advocates poured a lot of resources into persuading people to
Speaker 2: go vegetarian or vegan, expensive advertising campaigns, pamphlets, lectures, letters.
Speaker 2: But now they've shifted their focus towards banning some of
Speaker 2: these And you alluded to them egregious factory farm practices.
Speaker 1: Right, So their whole mission now is instead of changing
Speaker 1: people one by one, it's changing mass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've changed trying to change the system versus the
Speaker 2: people within the food chain.
Speaker 1: You know what I never think about in credit to me? No, No,
Speaker 1: But you know what I never think about. I don't
Speaker 1: think I never think about like that. What's the old
Speaker 1: expression how the sausage is made. I don't know what
Speaker 1: happens to pigs based on dominion. They just throw them
Speaker 1: against walls.
Speaker 4: If I think about like steak or burger, it'll ruin
Speaker 4: it for me for a couple of day.
Speaker 3: Because of how it's done. Nope, But the fact that
Speaker 3: it's just a cow crave them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: But if you think about they take that cow and
Speaker 1: they bolt him, then you're like, I.
Speaker 3: Can't do this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the baby cows the oh veal? Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Oh, how big of you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I just because of that?
Speaker 3: Because of what?
Speaker 4: Because it's baby cows and they're they're brutalized.
Speaker 3: As opposed to the pigs that are just thrown against
Speaker 3: the wall.
Speaker 2: I don't think a pig's that way.
Speaker 3: What is if meal is a baby cow? Is there
Speaker 3: a baby piglet?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What do I? Yeah? What do I eat there?
Speaker 2: I've never heard of this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like and the answer may be nothing. The
Speaker 1: answer may be nothing. But if because everybody does there like,
Speaker 1: oh I won't eat veal, I won't eat veal.
Speaker 3: I had veal last weekend. It was fantastic. I love.
Speaker 2: Would this be a suckling pig?
Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever had, but I've heard
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was the baby?
Speaker 3: What is? What is suckling pig? Have I had that?
Speaker 3: I definitely had pork?
Speaker 2: Rinds says this says that the tenderness and the incomparable
Speaker 2: moistness is something you cannot find in any other dish.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm craving. I want a suckling pig.
Speaker 3: I gotta know what that But but you don't get
Speaker 3: the whole pig.
Speaker 6: Baby ham not I love ham.
Speaker 2: You definitely have it with its legs out and it
Speaker 2: served to you. It looks like it's a it's a
Speaker 2: very Spanish.
Speaker 3: Does it get served like a like like a like
Speaker 3: a cornish hen?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Oh okay?
Speaker 2: Or like squab the claw?
Speaker 3: That's okay, Diane, that's a pigeon. That's a pigeon.
Speaker 2: So this is big in it says Spain, Italy, Germany
Speaker 2: and Louisiana.
Speaker 3: Oh excellent?
Speaker 1: Who that?
Speaker 3: Who they want?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: They want that cycling pig? No, Gretna, looks like pigs
Speaker 1: live there, pig sty Uh?
Speaker 3: Where am I going? Christen? You'll nothing wouldn't get you
Speaker 3: to stop eating meat? No, thank you? Kristin Her, I
Speaker 3: don't know. Hi, Elliott the morning?
Speaker 2: Is this me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hi?
Speaker 3: Who's this?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 7: This is Mallory. I was calm because like twenty years ago,
Speaker 7: when I was a vegetarian, I read the book Dominion,
Speaker 7: and it's actually by Matthew Scully, who was like the
Speaker 7: senior speechwriter for Bush for a year, right, and it's
Speaker 7: going over like how humans domain, you know, are dominant
Speaker 7: of the earth. But then also it touches on like
Speaker 7: fur trades all sorts of like cruelty and stuff, but
Speaker 7: then also goes back to like religious you know, teachings
Speaker 7: that men is higher than animals.
Speaker 2: Regardless.
Speaker 7: It's a really thick book.
Speaker 3: But it's very good.
Speaker 7: And I'm not a vegetari anymore.
Speaker 2: I just got hungry.
Speaker 4: What was the first meal that switched you?
Speaker 7: Taco bell I.
Speaker 3: Had a girl, a girl.
Speaker 1: Why did you just think, like I'm renting the food,
Speaker 1: I'm not eating it. I gotta come out.
Speaker 7: Hey what is the I mean, it's not really pure
Speaker 7: beef anyway?
Speaker 3: So is is dominion? What flipped you to vegetarian?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 8: Uh No, I saw the videos when I was young, right, Yeah,
Speaker 8: it's Peda videos, you know, And yeah, I just I
Speaker 8: spent time at like farm sanctuary when I was eighteen,
Speaker 8: still when I was a vegetarian of like rescued farm animals,
Speaker 8: you know, and it is true like just you know,
Speaker 8: dogs and cats are you know, pets, but the other
Speaker 8: farm animals they're very friendly now their own personalities, but
Speaker 8: you know, to each their own I was never the
Speaker 8: kind of person to push being a vegetarian or anything
Speaker 8: on anybody else, because that's just I mean listening, you know, be.
Speaker 3: A vegetarian, be a vegetarian. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: All right, Very good, very good, Thank you, ma'am, thank you, yes, Kyler.
Speaker 2: I continue to read about Coach and Eel, which is
Speaker 2: the oh you're into the suckling buckling pig in Spain,
Speaker 2: which apparently Ernest Hemingway loved, but it says customers are
Speaker 2: incredulous that it is even pork because it evokes tastes
Speaker 2: of duck or really moist turkey. And then it's sealed
Speaker 2: by this crispy outer skin.
Speaker 1: Oh see, now, can I tell you what's going through
Speaker 1: my head right now?
Speaker 2: Crispy skin?
Speaker 3: No, I hear that.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know what, you know, it would be
Speaker 1: good while I'm watching the draft tonight, peking Gourmet load
Speaker 1: up on a duck. That sounds good. Now everybody keeps
Speaker 1: mentioning steak. You know where I want to go? Also,
Speaker 1: like now now I'm craving ato' one chop house and
Speaker 1: Tysons fantastic, fantastic.
Speaker 2: Says when it's butterflied, is rubbed with olive oil, garlic, salt,
Speaker 2: and thyme.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Cooked in two stages, once for about an hour in
Speaker 2: a clay dish alongside the fire or on a grate,
Speaker 2: and later after it is cool to brown the skin.
Speaker 3: Here, Peggy, Peggy, pe Piggy peey, Here Peggy Peggy.
Speaker 2: Pek Christin. What was the experiment you were a part
Speaker 2: of in Collins?
Speaker 3: Oh, let's turn Kristin on. This will be good.
Speaker 1: Oh was it beating up vegetarians? Yes, hi, Kristen, good morning.
Speaker 3: What were you in in college? We I can't remember.
Speaker 5: What class it was, if it was my ethics class
Speaker 5: or what, but a I remember my whole class was
Speaker 5: sitting there and our teacher was like, hey, so we're
Speaker 5: gonna put our books away today. We have a documentary
Speaker 5: we're going to watch. And it was like based off
Speaker 5: of the slaughterhouses and things like that.
Speaker 3: So on the huge pro how about write a note
Speaker 3: and get me out of that.
Speaker 5: So on the big projection screen, we watched this movie.
Speaker 5: It was over an hour, and the creators and the
Speaker 5: producers of all the movie were there and they were
Speaker 5: they went around to each of us and we're like
Speaker 5: drilling it. Now are you gonna eat meat, and we're
Speaker 5: all like, yeah. I think there was maybe one girl
Speaker 5: who was a lab and she like got up and
Speaker 5: cried and.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, for those of you that don't have a
Speaker 1: glossary book at home, that's a whiney ass bitch, weak
Speaker 1: ass week ass bitch.
Speaker 3: Sorry, weak ass bitch.
Speaker 5: But then the rest of us were like, hey, you
Speaker 5: guys want to go for burgers? And we left the
Speaker 5: class and went out.
Speaker 3: So I was in this thing that I was reading.
Speaker 1: They showed a bunch of They showed a bunch of
Speaker 1: people that Dominion movie and just kind of followed up
Speaker 1: with them. For some people, it had about a week
Speaker 1: long effect and that was it, and then everybody else
Speaker 1: was right back into uh eating the food, right back
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 2: Short lived.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and again more than ever and all you've heard.
Speaker 1: And you see those pictures of the cows that have
Speaker 1: like the gas tank cap on their side to let
Speaker 1: the gases.
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah, awesome, I got no problem with that. The
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything that would get me to
Speaker 1: stop eating meat. I can't think of anything.
Speaker 2: And for this thing you read, is that sort of
Speaker 2: the conclusion They came to that with all these options of.
Speaker 1: And options and I don't want to say education information,
Speaker 1: all of that and the push for over a decade
Speaker 1: and how hard it was, and yes, meatless mondays and
Speaker 1: impossible this and beyond that and foe this and tofu
Speaker 1: and everything. We eat more meat than ever And so
Speaker 1: even this whole thing that I read was is it
Speaker 1: even possible to convince people to stop eating meat?
Speaker 3: Desprite all the problems with meat, we are eating more
Speaker 3: and more of it.
Speaker 1: And then they go on and say could this change
Speaker 1: people's mind? They get into dominion, and the answer when
Speaker 1: they'd showed dominion people was no. Yes.
Speaker 5: Kristen, I will say the documentary was like, I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I can't believe the animals are mistreated
Speaker 5: so badly. I do know it's not like that everywhere, sure,
Speaker 5: but all I wanted was a burger.
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. I'd eat while I'm
Speaker 1: watching the movie. WHOA see myself doing it?
Speaker 2: Yes? Time from Feliciano. We are serving suckling pig today
Speaker 2: at the Virginia Portuguese Community Center. You are welcome to
Speaker 2: come by and try it for lunch. Jam Buenos the
Speaker 2: US count me there. That sounds great. Where is that?
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with that center?
Speaker 3: The I am not.
Speaker 2: You've never done events with them in the past.
Speaker 1: I have not, and uh will they will? They have
Speaker 1: the draft on.
Speaker 2: Well it's lunch oh okay, and it's in Manassas.
Speaker 3: Oh, look at.
Speaker 1: That America's most Livable Community home of the suckling Pig,
Speaker 1: Line five. That is at that is our community animal.
Speaker 1: Hi Elliott, the morning.
Speaker 9: Elliott, Yes, sir, uh, I was just calling about the
Speaker 9: suckling pig.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 9: It is probably the most delicious piece of meat I
Speaker 9: have ever tried my entire life, and I have tried
Speaker 9: everything from alligator to crocodile to dog to all kinds
Speaker 9: of different meats. It is like fall off the bone delicious.
Speaker 9: It is the most amazing thing you can ever try
Speaker 9: in your life.
Speaker 1: Is Tyler is Tyler right? Though it doesn't taste like ham, it's.
Speaker 9: Not like a ham. I still think it tasted like ports,
Speaker 9: but not as not as uh not as strong as
Speaker 9: a ham flavor.
Speaker 7: It was more.
Speaker 9: It was much more subtle. It's similar to like a
Speaker 9: veal and a beef. Like if you get an eighth
Speaker 9: piece of beef. It has a real strong flavor to it.
Speaker 9: But that piece of beal is just like sweet and succulent.
Speaker 3: Right, so is it like?
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's easy with It's easy when
Speaker 1: you talk about it's easy when you talk about pigs
Speaker 1: and stuff to go to like ham and bacon. You're
Speaker 1: gonna tell me you wouldn't crush a pork chop right now.
Speaker 1: I love pork chops, of.
Speaker 9: Course, two or three of them with you, mother, than
Speaker 9: buggers and gravy.
Speaker 1: Let's go all right, dude, I appreciate it, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tyler.
Speaker 2: And you see the name of this video about to
Speaker 2: play on the Titan tron. I cannot suckling pig is
Speaker 2: so tender. It's cut by plates.
Speaker 3: He's taking a plate and just stabbing at it. Can
Speaker 3: you put it up on the screen. Diane has to
Speaker 3: see this. Diane has to see this.
Speaker 4: Hold on, so paint this picture of what I'm about
Speaker 4: to see. He's using the side of a plate.
Speaker 1: Yes, cut, yes, and there's just a dinner plate and
Speaker 1: he's just.
Speaker 3: And then he throws look at him and then he
Speaker 3: throws the plate.
Speaker 2: O big man with your metal.
Speaker 3: The oh Diane, he's eating a piece of pork,