Speaker 1: This is Pat from the thirty something Movie Podcast, and
you're listening to my most excellent friends Jason and d
from the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely you Can't
Be Serious Podcast Special Edition Five Minutes of Fire. We
are here talking about the lyrics of We Didn't Start
the Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering only five minutes
at a time, which is about to link with the song,
so it works out kind of nicely. So please join
us as we dive into some new lyrics today.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, so here are the topics that we're
going to be covering today. Pro Kaffeev, Rockefeller and Campanella.
Speaker 2: All right, Jason, what can you tell me about pro Kafeev.
Speaker 3: Sergei Prokofiev born eighteen ninety one died in nineteen fifty
three was a Russian composer, pianist, and conductor. I keep
getting stuck with the pianists. I know nothing about pianos
or conducting. He is a creator of many acknowledged masterpieces,
including the March from the Love of Three Oranges. I've
not heard of that one, The Ballad of Romeo.
Speaker 2: And Juliette that one I've heard of, and Peter and
the Wolf that one I love. Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's known for being very eccentric and arrogant. He
wrote several operas, including The Gambler No not the Kenney
Rogers version, The Fiery Angel, and The Love for Three Oranges.
He also created an opera on War and Peace. It's
interesting he died the same day that Joseph Stalin's death
was announced, so his death went basically unnoticed. He died
of a cerebral hemorrhage in nineteen fifty three, and nobody
knew anything that was happening to him because everybody was
focused on Joseph Stalin's death. Wow, all right, Dee, what
can you tell us about Rockefeller?
Speaker 2: So this one is a little confusing because I mean,
everybody knows John Dy Rockefeller as the richest man ever,
right right, right, and his son was Johnny Rockefeller. But
around this time, which Rockefeller are we talking about here? Right?
I looked at David Now he was like head of
the Chase Manhattan Bank and heavily involved in political committees,
including the Council on Foreign Relations. They actually asked him
at one point, Hey, why don't you run for president?
And he was like, why would I take a demotion?
But I don't think that's the guy we're talking about.
There's Lawrence, who was a conservationist and who was really
into UFOs. He was the guy who made them uncover
the secret documents with Roswell, which really produced nothing. Wow.
And then there's Nelson, who ultimately would become vice president
of the United States and was a governor of New York.
But I don't think it's him either. I think that
the guy that we're talking about is Winthrop Rockefeller. He
was a guy who was making the news because as
far as Rockefellers go, he was rebel. He dropped out
of Yale. He enlisted in the army as a private.
He went and fought, got a bronze star and a
purple heart. He was heavy drinker when he was in
the army. He had a girlfriend named Candy Mosler. She
ultimately got charged in a plot to murder her husband.
The other person involved in the plot was her nephew,
who she had an incestuous relationship with. What that's girlfriend
number one? Girlfriend number two becomes wife number one. Her
name was Bobo Palkiet and then ultimately what happens is
he moves to Arkansas and becomes governor of Arkansas. He
and Nelson are the only two brothers that are serving
as governors of different states until the nineties when Jeb
and George Bush do that. He is a big inspiration
for Bill Clinton. I called my dad because my dad
grew up in Arkansas in the fifties. Of course, huh.
And he's like, he didn't really do a whole lot
as governor, but he did do a cross breeding of cows,
which became a pretty big deal in Arkansas. But he
was the rebel Rockefeller and the one that I believe
Billy Joel's referring to in asaw. Wow. All right, Jason,
I know that you set this up so that you
get the baseball guy. Finally, tell me, baseball guy, who
is the Campanella?
Speaker 3: Okay. Roy Campanella, otherwise known as Campy, was a professional
baseball player played for the Brooklyn Dodgers, known and accepted
as one of the greatest Major League catchers of all time.
Now here's the interesting thing. He played for nine years
in the Mexican League and the Negro Leagues before making
his debut with the Brooklyn Dodgers in nineteen forty eight.
His mom was black and his dad was Italian, but
he was still treated, of course, as a black man.
Branch Ricky almost made him the first African American Major
League Baseball player, but then later decided on Jackie Robinson.
Roy Campanella was his second choice. He was a three
time Negro League All Star, an eight time Major League
Baseball All Star, was a three time National League MVP
nineteen fifty one, nineteen fifty three, nineteen fifty five. Won
the World Series in nineteen fifty five, His team, the Dodgers,
retired his number thirty nine, and then January twenty eighth,
nineteen fifty eight, was driving home going on approximately thirty
miles per hour, hit a patch of ice, overturned his car,
broke his neck, and was paralyzed for the.
Speaker 2: Rest of his life. Oh that's tragic.
Speaker 3: He was honored by the Sporting News to be one
of the top one hundred baseball players of all time.
Speaker 2: Roy Campanella, Okay, guys, that does it for today's episode.
Join us next time for five minutes of fire