WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.080 Watching the Walls Harris debate confirmed some things I suspected 2 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:11.279 having a bit of a connection to Minnesota and Minnesota 3 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:16.879 politics via my in laws, and what I suspected was 4 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:23.079 Tim Walls is not a man for the big stage. 5 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:27.920 He's a man for the small stage. I remember this 6 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:33.159 very clearly with Scott Walker, the former governor of Wisconsin, 7 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:37.280 the Republican governor of Wisconsin, and there was this flurry 8 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:41.560 of excitement on the right when Walker became the governor 9 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:47.000 of Wisconsin, and a lot of libertarian leaning conservative money 10 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:53.799 was so thrilled about Walker because he took a lot 11 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.920 of steps after he came into office to break the 12 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:01.079 power of a lot of different unions within Wisconsin, especially 13 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.239 public sector unions. And that's the one, you know, the 14 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:08.159 Koch brother money that's out there. I mean, the one 15 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:12.400 thing that they're all very very much united on is 16 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:15.640 that unions are bad. So they loved Scott Walker, and 17 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:18.719 I'm a bit more ambivalent on that question. I certainly 18 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:24.079 not crazy about public sector unions and teachers' unions. Nonetheless, 19 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:26.439 there was all of this excitement about Scott Walker, and 20 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:29.599 you know, kind of twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, latter half 21 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:34.560 of the Obama years and everyone's like, this guy's running 22 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.519 for president, this guy's running for president, this guy's running 23 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.480 for president. And then twenty sixteen rolls around and what 24 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:44.719 do we see? Eh, he was on the debate stage 25 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:50.760 and completely dwarfed charisma wise by guess who, Donald Trump. 26 00:01:54.120 --> 00:02:00.519 Some people are just not made for prime time. They're 27 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:05.799 not made for a national political stage. They're not national 28 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:11.680 political figures. They are appealing to a statewide audience. They 29 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:16.520 can get support from statewide donors, they can get political 30 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:20.479 and media coverage that's favorable, and you know, a breeze 31 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:28.639 to their back from local media and local outlets. But 32 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.680 they're not ready for prime time. And that's who Tim 33 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:39.400 Walls is. Walls has been kind of bubble wrapped throughout 34 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:43.560 this process and with Democrat and media narratives telling us 35 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:50.159 how wonderful he is, but there's been no uncontrolled occasion 36 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:56.280 for actually seeing him face to face. And once we did, 37 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.439 what did we see? Well, he kind of looked dopey, 38 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:03.599 look like I saw someone on Twitter make the joke 39 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:08.639 that he looked like Don Rickles, Don Rickles wimpy Lutheran brother, 40 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:14.840 which I thought was hilarious and dead on the other 41 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.639 thing that I find hilarious is how, both for Walls 42 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:22.199 and then lately, for some reason, Kamala Harris's husband, Scott Emhoff, 43 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:27.800 there's this constant effort by people on the left to 44 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:35.680 want to identify their favored politicians as like family members 45 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:42.599 or like either either to grossly sexualize them like or 46 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:47.080 to portray them as like their father or something. Oh, 47 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:51.199 Joe Biden's like our grandpa. Kamala Harris is Mamla. She's 48 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:56.879 you know, just like your fun aunt, and or to 49 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:00.439 the gross sort of there were different ways throughout the 50 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.400 Obama years where people were sexualizing bro Oh, he's so hot, 51 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:09.400 he's so confident, he's so cool. With both Walls and 52 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:11.759 m Hoff, there was a recent story about Doug m 53 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.599 Hoff saying that, oh, Doug m Hoff, he's he's reshaping 54 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:22.160 our concept of masculinity. So it's basically and similar things 55 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:27.240 have been said of Walls, which is so hilarious to me, 56 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:31.759 Like a liberal man exists and liberals go, wow, this 57 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:35.920 is reshaping our entire concept of masculinity. I don't think 58 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:41.079 they're reshaping anyone's concepts of masculinity. They're guys. I mean whatever, 59 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:42.759 Maybe they're a good guy, maybe they're a bad guy. 60 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:47.240 I highly doubt that the vice presidential nominee or the 61 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.519 current the husband of the current vice president, is really 62 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:54.279 reshaping anyone's sense of masculinity. Although if we're going to 63 00:04:54.319 --> 00:05:02.199 talk about Doug m Hoff, I mean, I don't know 64 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:05.240 that he's reshaping my concept of masculinity, given that his 65 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:08.000 concept of masculinity is cheating on his wife with the 66 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.519 nanny and then marrying some other galp you know, so, 67 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.600 I don't know, doesn't strike me as a very appealing 68 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:25.560 concept of masculinity. Now, it seems like the soft consensus 69 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:30.439 is that Vance did better, and a lot of the 70 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:35.160 messaging from the left after the fact has been well, 71 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:37.480 the vice presidency isn't all that important. It's not like 72 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:43.279 the vice presidency such policy, which is an awkward thing 73 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:47.360 for liberals to argue right now, given who their nominee is. 74 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:50.560 And it's almost this impossible tightrope that liberals have to 75 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:57.399 walk with Kamala Harris. They have to portray her as 76 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:03.800 smart and competent and part of the plan. They cannot 77 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:10.759 I think they have to pick one or the other. Either. 78 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:15.879 She was really heavily involved as a prominent key decision 79 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:21.680 maker for Democrat policies for the last four years, in 80 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:25.639 which case, unfortunately for her, she has to bear a 81 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:34.120 lot of the blame for those policies. Or and frankly, 82 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:38.319 I kind of think this is more likely. She was 83 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.959 often left out in the cold, she was off And 84 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:48.680 by the way, Biden is saying she was involved. She 85 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.439 was involved with every just major decision I made. She 86 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.199 was there making it with me. So Biden is clearly 87 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:57.199 taking the posture I think I was a great president, 88 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:03.240 I'm not. And so I can't say that, and Biden 89 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.279 can't say, yeah, she wasn't really involved in anything. It 90 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:09.680 was all me, because the only reason to do that 91 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.319 would be to help Harris distance herself from Biden. He 92 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:15.279 doesn't think he's he should be distanced from. He's very 93 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.879 proud of his presidency. He thinks he's this great historic figure. 94 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:22.000 In his head, he has constructed this image of himself, 95 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:25.720 so he's like, oh, yeah, she's deeply involved in all 96 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:34.399 my policy decisions. But I think and I think most 97 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:37.879 of the reporting that was out there prior to the 98 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:43.480 big switcheroo in July when Biden dropped out and Harris 99 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:47.639 became the nominee all of a sudden. I think it's 100 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:55.240 more likely true that Harris actually was sidelined most of 101 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:59.279 the time within the Biden administration. I think she was 102 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:04.040 a relative unimportant figure within the Biden administration. I think 103 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:08.839 lots of cabinet officials had more, say, more influence. Biden 104 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:12.680 trusted them more, relied on them more than he did 105 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.040 on Harris. And I think a lot of the reporting 106 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:19.639 that was coming out was indicating things like Biden can't 107 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:23.720 stand Harris, Biden can't stand how she won't take anything 108 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:27.879 off his plate. Coming from the Harris camp was you 109 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:31.439 were hearing rumblings of frustration that Biden wouldn't give her anything, 110 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:34.279 that the stuff he did give her seemed like he 111 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.320 was setting her up to fail. I mean, I don't 112 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.159 know that she's ever going to recover from the border 113 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:42.919 Zar thing, because like the the assignment Biden gave her, 114 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:48.879 he basically just did did not at all empower her 115 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:52.519 to actually fix anything that was wrong with the border. 116 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:59.480 So here she is. He's making this big enough. Oh, 117 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:04.200 I'm putting you're in charge of migration issues, root causes 118 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.840 of migration and problems of the southern border. This thing 119 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:09.519 where it's like, oh, she's in charge of this problem. 120 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:14.720 She will never resolve that. There's no humanly possible way 121 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:21.720 she will resolve it. Now, do I think Harris still 122 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:25.879 deserves some blame for Biden's policies? Well, yeah, she signed 123 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:28.240 up for it. She signed up to be as vice president. 124 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:37.120 She publicly supported everything he did. She's part of that administration. 125 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.840 She's the incumbent. She has to take that blame. But 126 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.000 I could understand and if she wants to come out 127 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:47.919 tomorrow and say, listen, the reason why this country's not 128 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.159 doing well is because Joe Biden shunted me to the side. 129 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:53.240 Here's all the things I do differently from him. She 130 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:54.840 can come out tomorrow and do that. But she's not 131 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.519 going to do that. She knows she can't or she 132 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:04.960 feels she can't. So this is the tricky thing is 133 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.559 if you're gonna say, well, the vice presidential debate is 134 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:10.240 sort of meaningless, I mean, how important is the vice president? Really? 135 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:12.879 I mean, well, then now important is Kamala Harris? Really? 136 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:17.080 What are we talking about? Then you can't out of 137 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.399 one side of your mouth because Wall's got you know, 138 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:22.000 the brakes beaten off of them. You can't say, oh, 139 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:26.840 the vice presidential debate is meaningless because the vice president doesn't, 140 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:31.559 you know, actually set polishy or anything. Well, yeah, I 141 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:35.919 mean the vice president is there supporting the president with 142 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:43.000 the president's policies. You can't pretend like it's not important 143 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:47.200 when your nominee is the vice president. And again, this 144 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:49.559 is the problem. You have to either say she was 145 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:51.759 intimately involved in everything, in which case she has to 146 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:53.679 take the blame for everything that went wrong the last 147 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:58.759 four years, or you have to say, oh, she didn't 148 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:01.519 have anything to do with all those things. And Democrats 149 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:04.320 are finding it's it's really hard to have it both ways. 150 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:08.039 And I think that might have been just, you know, 151 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:11.080 to get back to the actual analysis of the debate. 152 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:15.639 I think that might have been the strongest points that 153 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:22.679 Vance was making, which was bringing it back to Harris 154 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:28.000 all the time that she's the incumbent, that she's the 155 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:32.120 one who's done all these things, that she has to 156 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.919 bear the responsibility for all of these problems that we're 157 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:38.120 talking about that exist in the country, that her day 158 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:41.440 one was. I think he had one line during the 159 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:43.960 debate that you know, she keeps on day one, I'm 160 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:45.519 going to fix X y and z no no, no, no. 161 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:50.639 Your day one was fourteen hundred days ago. I mean 162 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:53.600 she's been vice president now for about fourteen hundred days since, 163 00:11:53.679 --> 00:12:00.279 you know, January twentieth of twenty twenty one. So I 164 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:04.759 thought that was really strong from Vance. And again it 165 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:08.559 sort of showed, you know, maybe there's no strong rebuttal 166 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:14.120 that Walls can provide. But I just don't feel like 167 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:17.519 Walls was set for that stage being And you see 168 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.840 this kind of sometimes with other especially with Democrat governors. 169 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:25.440 I think in blue, deep blue states, you get elected 170 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:30.679 as you win your primary for governor in a deep 171 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:35.279 blue state, and your life is pretty smooth sailing after that. 172 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.480 There's no real threat or challenge to your seat. The 173 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:42.399 media will always back you. It will always be the 174 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:47.440 wind beneath your wings. You're not ever really fighting for 175 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:51.039 your political life. You're sort of just the guy in 176 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:56.240 charge and everyone's backing you. And I don't know that 177 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:01.000 Walls is prepared for like this kind of a combative 178 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:07.159 environment where you know it's him trying to duke it 179 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.200 out with someone who has a real realistic chance of 180 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:16.840 beating him. He's not made for the big canvas and 181 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.200 and he's he's getting in trouble also because of his 182 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:26.320 sort of serial stretching of the truth. He had a 183 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:29.679 he didn't really have a good answer for his frequent 184 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:35.000 claims that he was in Hong Kong during the Tianas 185 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.200 or Hong Kong or Taiwan. I can't remember. He kept 186 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:42.960 making this claim that when Tianaman Square happened, that he 187 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.240 was either in Hong Kong or in Taiwan. And all 188 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.840 they records seem to indicate that people dug into this 189 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.919 and and there's seems to be a decent amount of 190 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:56.360 evidence reporting on it that actually he was in Nebraska, 191 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:03.720 and he's oh, I was being dopey, I misremembered, misspoke. 192 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.799 He's got that he's got his kind of weird stolen 193 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:10.759 valor things where he's you know, claiming at one point 194 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:14.799 he is using weapons of war and that you know, 195 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:21.039 sort of embellishing his military service, which is a big 196 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:25.919 time no. No, he's you know, he And the thing 197 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:29.480 is little crap like that you can get away with 198 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:33.320 when you're the governor of deep blue Minnesota, when you 199 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.120 know you've got you know, this ten point electoral cushion 200 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:39.960 all the time, and that local media is really not 201 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:44.240 going to challenge you about it, not that hard, but 202 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.519 on the big stage, he can't avoid that stuff, and 203 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:49.639 I think he looked pretty weak. The only things I 204 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:53.240 think he did let me close with this, the only 205 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:55.799 points where I think it seemed as though he was 206 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:58.120 doing better than Vance, because I don't think Vance had 207 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:02.480 a great answer for it, was the January sixth stuff 208 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:07.559 and democracy, which first, that stuff happened at least, gosh, 209 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:09.879 what time was that happening. Seemed like that was like 210 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.360 about forty or fifty minutes into the debate, which I 211 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:15.399 feel like probably half the audience had turned off the 212 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:21.559 debate by that point. But it's also this, I don't 213 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.679 get the sense that Americans really give a crap about 214 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:29.039 January sixth anymore. For the most part, I just don't 215 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:32.919 think they do. And the Democrats had really put a 216 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:36.159 lot of eggs into the basket of thro We got 217 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:41.799 to protect democracy, we need to be protecting democracies about democracy, 218 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:47.559 and I always thought that that messaging it just seems 219 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:50.639 so vague that I just don't think it's going to work, 220 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.320 And most of the polling indicates it hasn't worked. When 221 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:57.159 you ask voters about who's the best for protecting democracy. 222 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.200 It's about a fifty to fifty split, just like the 223 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:09.159 election overall. So I just don't think it is really working. 224 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:12.120 The one thing where I think Walls probably did a 225 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:15.320 little bit better than vance don't think it was working. 226 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:22.440 When we return a little bit about tribalism, loving your 227 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:27.120 own tribe and Tim Walls's visit to the University of 228 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:30.679 Michigan and the Big House for the Minnesota Michigan football 229 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:35.480 game next on The John Girardi Show, The big Tim 230 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:38.759 Walls story was not the debate last night. The bigger 231 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:46.159 Tim Walls story was the football game on Saturday. Tim 232 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:50.919 Walls went to Michigan. It's obviously spending a lot of 233 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:54.120 time in Michigan. All the presidential vice presidential candidates, they're 234 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:56.840 all spending a lot of time in Michigan. He goes 235 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:03.720 to Ann Arbor, home of the stud of Michigan. He 236 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:11.440 goes to the Michigan versus Minnesota football game the University 237 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:16.599 of Minnesota. The Gophers are playing the University of Michigan 238 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:22.519 in the Big House, playing the Wolverines. Now, before I 239 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:28.559 discuss this, I have to preface this with my own 240 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:37.759 history with Michigan. I despise Michigan. I despise the University 241 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:42.119 of Michigan football team. I hate it with the fury 242 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:48.000 of a thousand suns. I despise them and all their works, 243 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:54.759 and all their pomps, and all their empty promises. This 244 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:59.440 is due to some PTSD from a couple of Michigan 245 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:01.960 Notre Dame game, Michigan's kind of a long time on 246 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.880 again off again rival of Notre Dame. I had two games, 247 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:11.799 in particular, the twenty ten and twenty eleven Michigan Notre 248 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:18.680 Dame games, in which Michigan's quarterback must have thrown for 249 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:22.319 three hundred yards and ran for two hundred year, must 250 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:24.839 have thrown for basically half of a mile and ran 251 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:29.279 for another half of a mile against Notre Dame. Denard Robinson, 252 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:32.480 that was his name, Denard Robinson, who was Michigan's quarterback 253 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:36.000 during that time, And looks like they would always play 254 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.720 Notre Dame early in the season, like maybe the second 255 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:42.480 or third game of the season, and he would play 256 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.640 Notre Dame and it's like he took football pills. He 257 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:49.000 would look like the greatest college football player in the country. 258 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:51.599 He'd shoot up to the top of the Heisman watch 259 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:55.480 list and then proceed to play incredibly mediocre football the 260 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:57.000 entire rest of the year. So it was like, only 261 00:18:57.039 --> 00:18:59.839 against Notre Dame he looked like an absolute world beater. 262 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:05.200 So I and he won two extremely close games against 263 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:08.480 Notre Dame, where again he gained about one mile worth 264 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:16.400 of yardage single handedly. So I despise Michigan. So many 265 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:24.480 games we played against Michigan, so much heartbreak, anger, resentment, sadness, whatever. 266 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:29.079 So I despised Michigan. And I'd like to believe if 267 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:31.839 I were running for president and I needed to campaign 268 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:35.680 in Michigan, that I, as a Notre Dame graduate, if 269 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:40.799 Notre Dame went to Michigan for a football game and 270 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:45.599 I was campaigning, there is not a snowballs chance in 271 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:49.240 hell that I would wear a Michigan jersey. I would 272 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:55.480 sooner die than wear a Michigan jersey. Never. I don't care. 273 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:58.519 If I'm campaigning to be the mayor of ann Arbor, 274 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:01.319 I'm not going to root for Michigan. I hate Michigan. 275 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:07.559 I despise a Michigan so much. And this, this guy, 276 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:12.480 Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota, goes to Michigan for 277 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:14.480 a football game, and whose jersey does he put on? 278 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:24.440 A Michigan jersey? Disgusting, despicable, outrageous. In the words of 279 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:30.240 Jackie Childs, the Johnny Cochrane imitation attorney from Seinfeld, I 280 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:34.880 cannot express how this, how much this revolts me, and 281 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:37.359 I feel like it's a move that's gonna backfire on 282 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.200 Walls because I don't think any self respecting Michigan fan 283 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:46.519 would want a Minnesota fan to wear a Michigan jersey 284 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:50.039 when they go to Michigan. Like, how does any Michigan 285 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:56.680 voter respect that? Like, wouldn't you respect it more if 286 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:58.640 the guy was saying, Hey, I want your vote, but 287 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:04.920 I got a room for my Gophers today. Sorry, Like 288 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.720 wouldn't wouldn't that be your preference as a Michigan voter, Like, Okay, 289 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.559 at least this this man is being authentic, Like I 290 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:14.920 understand he's not from Michigan. He's got to support his 291 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:17.680 guys when he comes to the big house. Okay, that's 292 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:21.000 like a real guy. No, Walls is such a panderer 293 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:25.599 that he would put on that jersey, that jersey of 294 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:33.720 all jerseys. Oh my god, just ah, that tells you 295 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:35.440 all you need to know about Tim Wolson. I'm not 296 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:38.279 sure what it tells you, but it tells you something 297 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:45.480 about inauthenticity, possibly not really understanding football at all, which 298 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:48.119 you know, old Tim Wallas is redefining what it means 299 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:51.400 to be masculine. I'm not sure that that's true anyway. 300 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:56.160 I'm Holly and I were so disgusted by that, Like 301 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:02.119 what a revolting thing to do. Like, I don't care 302 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.839 if I'm running for mayor of Los Angeles or you know, 303 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:08.880 if I'm running for governor of cal I'm never gonna 304 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:10.759 run for governor of California. It don't be ridiculous. But 305 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:13.039 if I'm running for governor of California, let me guarantee 306 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:16.799 you one thing you will catch me. I would sooner 307 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:21.599 die than wear a USC jersey. Never, never, in a 308 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:29.400 million billion years would I wear a USC jersey. Like 309 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:33.039 that's like what I might wear a presdent statee jersey, 310 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:35.400 given that President State has never played Notre Dame. Ever, 311 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:38.200 they're not really rivals in any way. But Minnesota plays 312 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:43.480 Michigan every single year. How they hate Michigan. How I 313 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:47.039 cannot fathom the brain of someone who does that. So 314 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:50.400 that is the most significant Tim Wall's story of the 315 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:53.200 weekend was not his debate performance the fact that he 316 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:57.759 stooped so low as to wear a Michigan jersey. The 317 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:02.839 kinds of oh gosh, the kinds of moral compromises politics 318 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:07.319 forces on you is disgusting. When we return, Should the 319 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:12.039 City of Clovis move to district based voting for its 320 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:17.279 city council members? Next on the John Girardi Show. One 321 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:20.480 thing some of you may notice is happening with different 322 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:28.000 local election bodies differ different local government bodies, and you 323 00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:32.440 probably haven't noticed it unless you're a real local political 324 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:35.119 junkie kind of the way I am, so I am 325 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:39.519 here to explain it to you. There's a huge push 326 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:47.160 all up and down the state to try to change 327 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:53.640 the groundwork for local elections and voting in local elections 328 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:57.920 in order to advantage liberals, and the way that they 329 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:05.000 are trying to do so is by using the California 330 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:08.799 Voting Rights Act and the Federal Voting Rights Act to 331 00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:12.319 manipulate things. Basically, to try to argue that the current 332 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:20.319 setup of a given political entities, districts, given political entities boundaries, 333 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:25.559 that they are set up in a way that violates 334 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:34.640 the civil rights of minority voters. I am interested in 335 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:40.759 this as a Clovis resident due to a letter sort 336 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:45.079 of threatening this could turn into a lawsuit. Letter that 337 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:47.759 was sent to the City of Clovis by a voting 338 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:54.000 rights attorney from Malibu named Kevin Schenkman. So on August 339 00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:58.960 twenty third, this guy, Kevin Shankman, sent a letter to 340 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:02.119 the Clovis City Council arguing that its method of electing 341 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:10.119 city council members is illegal. He asks for an October 342 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:16.880 fourteenth date for a response. Now, how is it illegal? 343 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:22.359 Let's see, the city of Clovis has five city council members. 344 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:28.559 Unlike Fresno, which has city council members plus a mayor. Clovis, 345 00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:32.559 like a lot of small town governments in the San 346 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:37.839 Jauquin Valley, Clovis doesn't have a strong mayor who kind 347 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:42.039 of functions almost like a president. So the way the 348 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:43.759 president of city council works, it's almost like there's a 349 00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:46.599 city council that functions kind of like Congress, and the 350 00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:48.759 mayor kind of functions like the president. The president can 351 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:54.039 veto certain decisions by the city council. He's sort of 352 00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:58.599 the executive anyway, Clovis is not set up that way. 353 00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:02.079 Clovis basically just has city council. City council votes for 354 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:08.359 proposed measures they oversee different they oversee as a council, 355 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:13.799 various different city services. The city manager, et cetera, and 356 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:21.519 city council members in Clovis are voted for in an 357 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:26.119 at large process. That means Clovis is not divided up 358 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:30.400 into city council regions the way Fresno is. So. In Fresno, 359 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.680 Gary Brettefeld, for example, is a city council member, and 360 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:38.079 he's representing presidents who live in his district. I believe 361 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:44.440 it's District six, which is most of North Fresno. On 362 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:49.640 Lisa Perea, she's representing people who live more in the 363 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:54.079 Tower district. Miguel Arius is representing more people. I forget 364 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:55.880 exactly where his district is. I think he's kind of 365 00:26:55.880 --> 00:27:01.400 more downtowny different. So different city council members represent different 366 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:03.559 parts of the city, and the city is broken up 367 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:09.160 into regions. So Gary Brettefeld is not. Nobody who lives 368 00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:12.920 in the Tower District is voting for or against Gary Brettefeld. 369 00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.839 Nobody who lives in Woodward Park is voting for or 370 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.960 against Analisa Prea. They have their one city council member. 371 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.759 Clovis is not that way. Clovi City Council members are 372 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.920 elected at large. All five of the city council members 373 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:32.200 are subject to a vote by all of the voting 374 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:37.079 citizens of the entire city of Clovis. So it doesn't 375 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.519 matter where they live, where the individual city council members live. 376 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:46.519 Everyone in Fresno, excuse me, everyone in Clovis gets to 377 00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:49.960 vote for all five of the Clovis City Council members. 378 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:51.960 And they sort of stagger their terms of office, so 379 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.359 I think every two years you're voting for either two 380 00:27:54.440 --> 00:28:00.440 or three spots, so they're five spots total. Now, the 381 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:06.920 argument that's being made by this attorney is that at 382 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:17.599 large elections disadvantage minority voters in Clovis. At large elections 383 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.759 disenfranchised minority voters in Clovis. And here's the basic argument. 384 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:29.440 Most members of the Clovis City Council live east of 385 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:35.519 Clovis Avenue. Most of the poor and minority residents of 386 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:42.279 Clovis live west of Clovis Avenue. They're about thirty percent 387 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:50.000 of voters in Clovis are Latinos. Therefore, Latinos by having 388 00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:57.279 at large voting are structurally kept out of power and influence. 389 00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:04.400 If Clovis were to adopt a regionally based city council 390 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.079 where you had different city council districts and people running 391 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:14.079 within those different districts, then you would have more equitable 392 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:25.559 racial representation, all right. That's the argument, And the argument 393 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:31.039 is that the California Voting Rights Act mandates basically it 394 00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:39.160 tries to mandate against historic racist practices that happened in 395 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:41.200 a lot of communities in the South. So in the South, 396 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.559 there were a lot of different practices that were undertaken 397 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:52.200 to lessen eliminate the political influence of African Americans, whether 398 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:54.759 it was you know, taking you know, putting all the 399 00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:58.279 African American vote into one district so that none of 400 00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:02.480 the other districts would have any African American representation, or 401 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:08.079