WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.240 Check Podcasts. 2 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:10.160 Thanks for listening to the Donny and Dolly podcast. Catch 3 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.279 the show Monday through Fudday, ten am to noon on Check. 4 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:15.480 I think you're gonna want to hear this. 5 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:20.480 Your local sports coverage lives here. 6 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:24.559 Two nothing, It's alva not so fast co hole breath 7 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:27.640 with John Taylor. I say that the winner of the 8 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:29.920 draft lottery should be the winner of a two man loose. 9 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.679 And Rick Dolly Wall I had a cherry tree up 10 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:33.280 a little Ricky. 11 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:35.079 I used to go up that tree and just sit 12 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.240 there for hours, a bunch on those cherry years. 13 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:44.000 Donnie and Dolly, Welcome to the Paul Carson Studio at 14 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:48.240 Oh Boy Productions in downtown Vancouver. I am Ryan Henderson 15 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:53.240 alongside Rick Dollyball, Derek Wong directing the program in Quinn 16 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:54.920 Taylor in the producer's chair. 17 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.039 How are you lovely? Couldn't be better? 18 00:00:57.520 --> 00:00:58.359 How about that heat? 19 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:00.640 The heat last night? 20 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.880 Disgusting, disgusting, It's tough. 21 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:06.599 It's tank top time. This is when you wear your 22 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:07.040 tank top. 23 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:07.920 Well that I know. 24 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.799 This is why you purchase tank tops, and this is 25 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:12.159 why you wear them in heat. 26 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:15.840 Yeah that was way too hot for me yesterday, Way 27 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:16.239 too hot. 28 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:17.120 You don't got it. 29 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:18.200 You don't got a tank top? 30 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:20.200 Well, like, of course you wear a tank top in 31 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:22.400 the but what's the bot if you. 32 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:24.239 Wear a tank top. You gotta have shoulders. 33 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:27.079 I know, I saw your profile picture. 34 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:32.120 Shoulders not necessarily arms, but you have to have shoulders 35 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:34.519 to wear a tank top. A tank top won't fit 36 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:37.159 properly unless the shoulders are there. 37 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.239 Well, infamously, who did you run into? 38 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:39.760 Uh? 39 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:43.120 With good shoulders in a tank top? Who's that Mike Benavides? 40 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:46.359 Oh, Mike benavidees, Yeah, that guy is like he's built 41 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:50.640 like a German tank like. I mean he is he. 42 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:53.560 I'm telling you that guy is the line of defensive coordinator. 43 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:53.920 Yeah. 44 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:56.040 I saw him at subway in a tank top. I 45 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.200 didn't recognize him at first. Really, I had to go 46 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:00.439 up and go, hey are you Mike, and he said, yeah, 47 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.319 I've never seen him in a tank drop before. But 48 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:03.280 you gotta have shoulders. 49 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:05.959 You gotta have shoulders, I know, like your Twitter profile picture. 50 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:08.400 But you know what, you gotta work on the shoulders. 51 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:09.560 You got to work on the shoulders. 52 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:11.520 Anyway. 53 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:15.080 Speaking of heat, Ricky, it's gonna be hot. It's hot 54 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:20.199 right now down by our studios here in downtown Vancouver. 55 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:24.199 We're we can almost see BC Place from our studio. 56 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:28.080 We're very close to the stadium and today is going 57 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.840 to be a regardless of what happens, it's going to 58 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:34.439 be a very historic day with this men's national soccer 59 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:38.319 team Canon and Switzerland coming up at noon. The scene 60 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:41.000 right now, though, the march to the match is just begun, 61 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:44.120 and this is this is the scene right now. This 62 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.120 is Rob Williams our good pal on Twitter from the 63 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:49.639 Daily Eye. He just moved this video and this is 64 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.719 outside Science World. I believe that he sent this out. 65 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:55.280 And this is everyone gathered, the voyagers and all the 66 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.719 Canadian fans gathered and getting ready to head towards BC 67 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.520 Places for that match coming up up at noon. If 68 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.560 you don't know, again, single point for Canada. All they 69 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:05.319 need a tie. 70 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.159 All they need is not the win, but the. 71 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:12.520 Time either one gets them the win. They stay here 72 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.319 in Vancouver for the Round of thirty two match. 73 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:17.599 Don't have to play till July second. That's the other 74 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:19.039 key here we get rest. 75 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:23.360 They will not play until next Thursday, July the second. 76 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:27.120 The winner of group by the loser, or not the loser, 77 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:30.039 but the team that drops down to second. They're still 78 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.560 moving on, but they're gonna play in Los Angeles for 79 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:35.599 one and two that matches this weekend, so you're not 80 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.400 as much time. And we know about Canada's health situation. 81 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:42.719 And speaking of Jesse Marsh saying yesterday he expects Alfonso 82 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.039 Davies to play in today's match, We're gonna likely see 83 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:48.960 the first glimpse of Alfonso Davies unless something crazy happens 84 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:51.280 and they're out to some massive lead again. But I 85 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.159 don't see how that happening against Switzerland. He's not gonna start, 86 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:57.199 but he is gonna play today. But it's just a 87 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:01.719 it's the atmosphere ricked down here. It's it's incredible. We've 88 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:04.039 been talking about it a lot, twenty ten comparables at 89 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:04.360 all that. 90 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.000 Stuff started this morning at seven oo. It was yes 91 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.280 when I when I got to work at seven this morning. 92 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.439 If you didn't get here at seven, get here at seven, 93 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:12.039 asked Derek. 94 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:14.000 Derek. Did I not get here at seven? I get 95 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:14.520 here at seven? 96 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:19.160 I get do get here last last? 97 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:21.360 The young kid there got here before you did. 98 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:23.879 Would you Derek was here at seven? That's even more surprising? 99 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:25.040 Was I not here at seven? 100 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.439 I'm a firm believer and not showing up to work late. 101 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:31.519 I get every show I've ever done in my life. 102 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.560 I get there three hours for studio. It's it's quiet time. 103 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:36.319 You're not here, so I get a lot of work 104 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.720 done at quiet time. I my quiet time. But I 105 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.199 started seeing red this morning at seven. I went for 106 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:45.839 a coffee run. Twice. I couldn't get into the coffee 107 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.560 shops were jam packed, too busy. So I went down 108 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:51.920 for a coffee run. The first one I got, I 109 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.439 got shut out. Too many people in the coffee shops. 110 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:56.759 Then I went back. This is it. This is what 111 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:01.040 downtown Vancouver. This isn't downtown Vancouver. This is obviously Falls Creek, 112 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.319 but I'm telling you downtown Vancouver is just like this 113 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:04.839 as well. 114 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.279 Yeah, well, the scene's everywhere, I mean Granville Street. The 115 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:11.519 watch parties. The watch parties, by the way, that we've 116 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.480 been talking about out at the p and E. They 117 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:18.800 moved information yesterday, the official World Cup account for Vancouver. 118 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:21.439 They're over two hundred thousand people break have gone through 119 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:23.800 those watch parties already at the p and E. And 120 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:26.160 again we're not even in We're only in the group stage. 121 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.639 Still it's just been it's just been incredible. And like 122 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:32.079 I say, regardless of what happens, if they somehow lose 123 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:35.040 this game, it's gonna be a massive talking point, right 124 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:37.720 because this is their toughest test, this is their toughest test. 125 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:40.000 They had the one to one draw against Bosnia, which 126 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:41.800 I think a lot of people were let down, feeling 127 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:44.959 a little let down after then they pumped Katar, but 128 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:48.199 Katar went down to ten men thirty minutes into the match, 129 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.199 so we didn't get a full glimpse at what what 130 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:53.959 do we believe about Canada. But today, I mean, this 131 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:57.839 is a massive, massive moment and let's be honest, every 132 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:01.000 match from here on in is historic, it's record setting 133 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.399 all that it's gonna be, it's gonna be something special. 134 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:05.279 Today it's a tough it's a tough one and and 135 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.160 Switzerland is one of the top possession teams so far 136 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.279 yep at the World Cup. They don't like give him 137 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.639 the ball away, So I mean this is going to 138 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:15.399 be a tough match. 139 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:20.560 Well, and it's interesting with Switzerland. They opened the tournament 140 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:23.120 one to one against Katar, that team that Canada just 141 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:25.759 beat up eat and then they came their second match 142 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:28.920 for one over Bosnia, so they did rebound. But it's 143 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:31.959 hard to make out what exactly Switzerland is but we'll 144 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:35.240 find out today again noon, coming up here in Vancouver. 145 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:39.319 By the way, if Canada wins the group Group B, 146 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:42.720 these are some of the possible countries. We don't know 147 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.279 who they will be playing for. Some of the possibilities though, 148 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:50.480 to play here in Vancouver are Belgium, Iran, Egypt, and Algeria. 149 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:53.160 So that is just some of the possibilities. There's a 150 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:57.240 million different websites that do predictions and probabilities and all 151 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.360 those things, and you can come up with a million 152 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:03.560 different formulations. But for now, those are some of the 153 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:07.639 countries that might be playing Canada in Group B. H Okay, 154 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:10.240 the other thing happening it is NHL Draft week. We're 155 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.879 coming up on forty eight hours from the draft kicking 156 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.759 off in Buffalo. Rick, you've been doing this a long time, 157 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:23.240 you know, covering hockey the NHL. Where does the craziness 158 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.040 of yesterday ranked for you in days you've seen with 159 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:28.360 the league, But for me, it's got to be right 160 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:28.720 up there. 161 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:31.560 Usually it was at the draft day. This week is 162 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:35.160 usually you know, years ago it'd be quiet, quiet, quiet, 163 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.000 and then on Friday the draft it would explode. But 164 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:42.160 yesterday exploded with so many trades. So how does this 165 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:46.160 affect the Canucks. What happened yesterday? So many big trades 166 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:49.199 in the NHL. Canucks fans want trades right now. They 167 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:52.720 want Philip Paronic trade because of the return could be huge. 168 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:53.040 Yep. 169 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:55.959 You saw a two defenseman move yesterday for first round pick. 170 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:56.199 Yep. 171 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:00.720 Okay. The only untouched untouchables on this Vancouver team be Boolliam, 172 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:05.120 Willander and Coots. As I said yesterday, Canucks don't have 173 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.439 Heronic's name out there. Everybody wants looked at. They should 174 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.120 be listening on all vets. They're listening on Peterson, They're 175 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:14.360 listening on debrask They're listening on Besser, They're listening on 176 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:19.040 basically everybody. But they know we As I was told yesterday, 177 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:22.279 Heronic's name is not out there, but they should be 178 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:25.040 listening on them. They should be listening. But here's the 179 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:28.000 three problems for everybody that wants Heronic out of town. 180 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.959 He's got a no move. Canucks have a very young 181 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.960 blue line. You need a veteran defenseman back there to 182 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:36.960 guide the kids. He's also a strong candidate to be 183 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.120 named captain, which we've been saying for a long time. 184 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.840 I've been saying this for months. He's a strong, strong candidate. 185 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:46.000 Here's the other thing about a rebuild. People don't realize. 186 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:49.159 You don't want to lose nine to one every night 187 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:52.080 in a rebuild. You want to be some somewhat competitive 188 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:54.519 because when you lose nine to one every game, it's 189 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.360 not good for the young players development their confidence, and 190 00:08:57.399 --> 00:09:00.600 it won't help you attract players to Vancouver at all. 191 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.720 There is also the real possibility that Heronic has already 192 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.159 told the team he won't wave his no move. So 193 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:09.039 there is a lot of things going on. Here's the 194 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.240 other thing. The Rutherford regime handed out no move clauses 195 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.679 like they were candy. This regime's got to deal with 196 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:19.600 all the no moves. It's not easy. Players work hard 197 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:23.879 for no move clauses. Some are very stingy about moving them. 198 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.159 I people don't understand why players fight for no moves 199 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:32.559 and why they don't wave them like. It's a very 200 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:36.600 interesting situation with no moves. Players work hard to get 201 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:39.120 those in trades. They're not just gonna wave it just 202 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.000 because some idiot on Twitter wants you to wave it. 203 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.919 So here's the other one for you. Just because a 204 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.840 bunch of teams made trade yesterday, does that mean every 205 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:50.879 team's got to make a trade. Do you make a 206 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:52.879 trade just for the sake of making a trade? Do 207 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.159 you have Russia trade? If the Canucks Russia trade today 208 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.120 because everybody made a trade yesterday and it's a bad one, 209 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.240 they're gonna get rip for making a bad trade. Yeah, 210 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.200 and being rushed into a trade. Yeah. So do you 211 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:06.440 all these guys on Twitter, Oh my god, five hundred 212 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:09.480 trade yesterday? The Canucks got to make one. So do 213 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.279 they just react and make a trade just for the 214 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:15.200 hell of it? But here's the thing that way, is 215 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:17.159 that how you make trades in the NHL? No, because 216 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:18.440 five other teams made up No. 217 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:21.200 But here's the thing, Rick, is there is a certain 218 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:25.039 sense of PTSD with Canuck fans, And you know why, 219 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:28.600 because of instances like we ran out of time in 220 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:30.919 the betting era, remember that one we ran out of time, 221 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:34.559 other trade deadlines that have gone past with players that 222 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:37.919 they've just not done anything with. So there's a certain 223 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:43.120 level of PTSD when fans see teams being active and 224 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.200 the Canucks aren't because that's kind of been their mo 225 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:50.480 You're one hundred percent right about You know, fans are 226 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:52.759 very fickle and they just they want everything in the moment, 227 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:53.159 and so. 228 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:56.000 Let's make a rush trade because a group of ten 229 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:01.480 guys on Twitter no work together, are out tweeting every 230 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:02.080 time second. 231 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:04.720 But I get the point of view, I do. I 232 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:05.600 get the feeling. 233 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:08.879 It makes sense. Here's where you're wrong. This regime is 234 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:12.720 in year one of a rebuild. At their introductory press 235 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:14.399 conferences said we're not going to rush it. 236 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:15.360 Yeah, I understand that. 237 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.159 Okakay, they're going to be patient. You can make trades 238 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:20.519 this summer. Is there a deadline like today or tomorrow 239 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:22.039 where you Canucks have to make a trade. 240 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.480 No, but you've covered the league long enough. The deadline 241 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:27.320 is July first. 242 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:28.120 Let's be honest. 243 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:32.559 Okay. Other than Debraskan Heronic, Canucks don't have many veterans. 244 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:34.919 No easy year, right, So there's a lot of big 245 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:38.080 contracts on the Canucks. There's a lot of underachieving players. 246 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:42.080 This is the thirty second place team in the National 247 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:44.399 Hockey League. There's not a lot of people that want 248 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:48.279 players from Vancouver because they were dead last by twenty points. Yeah, 249 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:51.320 it's not like there's a ton of teams going. Let's 250 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:52.840 call Vancouver get their players. 251 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:53.440 They were so. 252 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:55.840 Good last year. Oh, they were so good last year. 253 00:11:55.919 --> 00:12:00.320 Let's get Vancouver players. It's easy to say to make 254 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.720 a trade. It's harder to do it. But these guys 255 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:06.360 that just want you to rush these guys on Twitter 256 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:08.399 or rush to make a trade because they are five 257 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:11.720 trades yesterday. That's not the way teams do it. Everything 258 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.679 we know about Ryan Johnson and the Twins, they don't 259 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:17.399 give a crap of what the media says or social media, 260 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:20.120 as opposed to the other regime which cared too much 261 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.720 about what the media said. These guys are gonna be patient. 262 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:24.720 They'll do what's right for the Vancouver Canucks. If the 263 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:27.240 trade is today or if it's in July or August, 264 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:28.320 they'll make the trade. 265 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.039 Yes. But again, I know the regime is early Rick, 266 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:35.039 but they're being judged unfortunately on the history of the franchise, 267 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.600 and it's unfair to them. I'll say it right now. 268 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:40.399 I know it's unfair to Ryan Johnson and Daniel Henrick 269 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.320 for that. But fans have followed the fans that have 270 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.759 followed this team all the way along. They're lumping in 271 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.480 all of the experiences onto these guys. And your point, though, Rick, 272 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.679 about what they have to sell is one that I 273 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.080 think some people are forgetting. In my opinion, Heroonics, they're 274 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.840 easily easily easily. But he's their best chip Roni's their 275 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:02.720 best chip, right, obviously. 276 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:04.639 But Nebraska is going to be easy to move the 277 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:07.759 other guys right, who have tons of turns right, who 278 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:10.559 have tons of money right, who are underachieving, who have 279 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:13.320 no moves right. And it's not like teams are sitting 280 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:15.600 there going, boy, let's go get a whole bunch of 281 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:18.519 exactly Canucks exactly. Oh, they finished thirty second last year, 282 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:20.840 exactly a ton of great hockey players there, exactly the 283 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:21.080 way it. 284 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:23.759 Works, and there's a lot of guys that play EA Sports, NHL. 285 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.120 When it comes to trades and all that stuff, there's 286 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:27.440 a lot of things that go into it. The no 287 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:29.200 move goes into it like a ton of things to 288 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:30.320 go into They got seven. 289 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:33.279 No moves because Rutherford NLV and handed all moves after 290 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:33.919 they were candy. 291 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:35.480 The league as a. 292 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.000 Whole rake hole hands them out. 293 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.799 Yeah, but after happen to the Vancouver in the West, 294 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:44.120 the number of no moves dropped, Yeah, it drops. The 295 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:48.399 Canucks have got to stop handing out no moves. They 296 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.960 are having trouble moving guys right now because of their 297 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.879 no moves. That makes it tough to make a trade. 298 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.799 Let's just quickly go to the Waddling Dog poll question. 299 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:59.519 We're gonna set this up. It goes. It goes with 300 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:01.279 a lot of what Rick just talked about when it 301 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.159 comes to Philip Peronic experience one of Victoria's iconic destinations. 302 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:06.960 This place is going to be hopping and bopping today. 303 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:10.080 Catch the World Cup at the Waddling Dog. Canada games 304 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:13.200 are shown live and loud on all twenty two TVs 305 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.600 with full sound. Come sit and stay at the Dog today, Rick. 306 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.519 Quinn, get her up the Wattling Dog up pop pole. 307 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:21.440 Question Two defensemen were traded yesterday for first round pick. Sure, 308 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:25.720 the Canucks traded to Philip Peronic. It is clearly the 309 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:28.440 people want to Yes. They're saying yes eighty four percent, 310 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:32.000 but sixteen percent say no. If it was really easy, 311 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:33.879 they'd have done it by now. They would have asked 312 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:35.559 him to wave and he would have said yes. They 313 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:37.480 would have went out and got first picks. But what 314 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:40.600 people don't realize this is going to be a whole 315 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:43.519 lot tougher. There's other guys with no moves on Vancouver 316 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:44.279 that don't want to leave. 317 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:47.960 It's too pronged for me though, Okay, it's too pronged 318 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:52.039 for me. If Heronic has his heels dug in and 319 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.679 he's said something like I've got my no move, I'm 320 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:57.159 not moving, okay, then you have to respect that. That 321 00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:58.639 is what it is. He wants to stay here. I 322 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:00.360 don't really know why, but he wants us, they hear. 323 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.519 But if the other side of it, Rick is true 324 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.759 that the franchise considers him untouchable for whatever. 325 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.320 That I don't know, and I just I don't know. 326 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:10.240 I know, I know you don't. 327 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:10.600 I know. 328 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.559 The young young kids are the only untouchables, and I 329 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:14.159 think it's right. 330 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:17.360 But if they lomp Peronic into that, that's that makes 331 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:19.919 no sense. I don't It's a math problem. His year 332 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:23.279 prime years and what this team is going to be 333 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:25.600 during them makes no sense. I know what you say 334 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:27.399 about you don't want to lose nine nothing every night. 335 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.159 I get that, and nobody wants that. But you also 336 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:34.240 have somebody that's too valuable on your team because Okay, 337 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:35.679 So they're not going to lose nine to one with 338 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.759 Philip Paronic, but they'll lose four to two, five to two. 339 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:40.799 You shouldn't lose nine to one because they got thirteen 340 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:42.559 million invested in two Golden Sure. 341 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:44.679 Well there's that too, But when it comes to Moronik, 342 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:46.600 I think you can go out and sign a Luke 343 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:48.639 Shen if you're worried about veterans or whatever on the 344 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:50.080 back end, but you need. 345 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:51.799 To Shen is thirty seven. He's not going to give 346 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:54.240 you twenty four minutes a night. Philip Paronic's gonna give 347 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.080 you twenty four minutes a night to what end? Though? 348 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:56.600 To what end? 349 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:57.559 So what what does that do? 350 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.879 Second, is a six to seven defense who might have 351 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:02.159 to be a healthy scratch some night. 352 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:03.679 That's not your veteran. 353 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:05.759 Got okay, And Philip Heronic's gonna be a number one 354 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.360 on a thirty second place team. That doesn't make sense either. 355 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:12.120 Okay, Okay, it does when there's four defensemen under the 356 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:14.000 age of twenty four on Vancouver. 357 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:14.919 Sure, but you can't. 358 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.279 It's just this is like dressing for sixteen year olds 359 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:20.240 on defense in the Western Hockey League. How do you 360 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:20.519 think that. 361 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.440 Would go not well. But I said this yesterday. Philip 362 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:24.360 Paronic is like s. 363 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.399 And stop with the GT. Luke Shan to replace Heronic. 364 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.360 Luke Shan's a six seven guy. He's not going to 365 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:31.360 give you twenty four minutes. 366 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:35.320 No, but again, I don't understand for having Heronic. Heronic 367 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:37.960 is too valuable to have in a rebuild. Doesn't make 368 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.679 any sense. It makes no sense to have him around. 369 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:43.200 They should again unless if she's on him. 370 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:44.360 But if he's dug. 371 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.200 In and told them that, then then whatever you can't 372 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:47.799 do anything about. 373 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:51.519 Betchen should bitch about the previous regime. It's handing out 374 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:54.480 that no move because that no move's causing all the problems. 375 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:58.879 We have a loaded show today, two hours of jam 376 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.799 packed content for we'll continue to talk about all the 377 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:03.720 trades that went down yesterday in the NHL, and we'll 378 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.240 stay up to date on anything that happens this morning 379 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:09.039 during our show, and we'll continue talk more about the Canucks. 380 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.880 Are still lot going on as well. But coming up 381 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.319 at eleven fifteen, Caroline Harvey's gonna join us number one 382 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:19.640 overall pick last Wednesday to the Vancouver Goldenezed Defender or 383 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:22.799 the University of Wisconsin we'll talk to Caroline around eleven 384 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:26.640 fifteen John Shannon at eleven am. Paul Dolan is coming 385 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.000 up at ten thirty. He's on his way to the 386 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:33.039 big match today, Rick at BC Place noon, Canada, Switzerland. 387 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:35.079 So we'll talk to Doley at ten thirty. Up next 388 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:37.960 though our good pal voice of the British Columbia Lions 389 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.640 columnists for Black Press Media, Bob the mojmar Janovic. He's 390 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:46.079 next to Donian Dolly. 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