1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio and Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to dpeakclendarshow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,960 your support. Last hour we talked about the DMV, among 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,119 other topics. I do have some more on the DMV, 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,679 because I did say that they are they're looking to 12 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:42,840 make some changes for us. Yeah, some good changes, we 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,159 are told. I think it's going to streamline and UH 14 00:00:48,439 --> 00:00:54,119 and improve efficiency at the DMV, which honestly, like there 15 00:00:54,159 --> 00:00:56,600 is you really can only go one direction at this point, 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,479 I think. So we'll see how it goes. 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:58,719 Speaker 2: Now. 18 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:04,079 Speaker 1: I have been urged wait on Twitter. I have a 19 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:08,280 peak tweet from the URN who says, don't you say it? 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,519 Twelveh one, hunt you down? You ruined my place to go. 21 00:01:14,599 --> 00:01:17,280 Now I'm fighting till the last minute. I had to 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,359 wait around for voter id their turn. I don't follow 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,000 all of that, but I think so in the past, 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,640 I have divulged the office that I went to, and 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:35,560 then I was attacked savagely, I think inappropriately for identifying 26 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:40,560 the DMV office that I went to, and because I 27 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:43,640 got in very quickly, I got an appointment and I 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,239 got my renewal, and then people were like, don't tell 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,239 people where to go, and they blame me. Now because 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,159 this office is overrun. That is not my fault. That 31 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:56,079 is the fault of more people moving into that county 32 00:01:56,519 --> 00:01:59,239 and the area and then being able to get in 33 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:02,280 for the appointment. So I am not although I do understand. 34 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:06,079 You know, there is a you never tell people where 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,680 the best sledding hill is. You never tell people where 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,240 the best fishing hole is, okay, because if you tell 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,520 people where it is, then everybody else is going to 38 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:18,960 go there. The tragedy of the commons ensues, and now 39 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:24,560 it's ruined. Okay, So but oh all right, the tragedy 40 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:28,120 of the commons. That is, like in the olden days 41 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:31,759 they had the big patrograss because like in medieval England, 42 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:34,919 they didn't have any property ownership, which is kind of 43 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,080 similar to the way it is now. But they didn't 44 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,599 have any area to graze their sheep and their goats 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,439 and whatever else they were trying to have out grazing. 46 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:49,080 And so, you know, the kings or whatever, the vassals, 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,719 they were like, Okay, we're going to go ahead and 48 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:54,319 make the commons for people, so you can go to 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,759 the commons and you can graze your your flocks out 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,919 on the commons. Well, problem is nobody owns them because 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,080 they're commons, and so without any sense of ownership among 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,639 any of the people, they don't care. So they overgraze 53 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:13,520 the commons and then there's no more food, there's no 54 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:16,719 more grass for the flocks to eat, and then you 55 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,719 gotta slaughter all your herds. So that's the tragedy of 56 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:24,759 the commons. And so that's essentially what the fishing hole 57 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,000 and the sledding hill and the DMV office is about. 58 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,520 When you know there's no people take advantage of it. Again. 59 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,240 You know who these people are. You drive around them 60 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,240 all the time on the roads. You know that they 61 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,000 are jerks. Okay, So I apologize for identific because then 62 00:03:41,039 --> 00:03:42,479 I said I went all the way up to Hickory, 63 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,560 but that I didn't choose that place. I wasn't trying 64 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:49,080 to identify the fishing hole here. I just said that. 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,400 I went online and that was the first appointment that 66 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:53,479 I could get, and I tried to find one that 67 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:57,240 was within you know, two hours of Charlotte, and that's 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,599 the earliest one I could get. And then I had 69 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:00,960 to take it day off of work so I could 70 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,039 make the drive up there. Wait in the car for 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,360 fifteen minutes because I was early, and you're not allowed 72 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,199 to check in early, so I had to wait in 73 00:04:07,199 --> 00:04:09,560 the car for fifteen minutes. And then I got my 74 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,759 eyesight checked. Yep, I'm not blind. Col here's your license done. 75 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:17,519 It took I waited in my car longer than the appointment. 76 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:21,839 All right, let me go and talk to Jennifer. Hello, Jennifer, 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:22,600 welcome to the show. 78 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: Hi. How are you hey? 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm all right? What's going on? 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:27,079 Speaker 4: So? 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,519 Speaker 3: I went to the DMV this morning after listening to 82 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,000 you just say what you just said. I don't know 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,519 if I want to tell you which one I went to. 84 00:04:37,879 --> 00:04:40,759 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, you already used it, so it 85 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:43,720 doesn't matter for you anymore, so you could say you're right. 86 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: So I. 87 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: Went to the one in Kannapolis. Yeah, got there about 88 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,720 eight forty five and there was probably about eight people 89 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:02,800 in line outside and probably I don't know, maybe fifteen 90 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:07,199 inside already, but I'm assuming just by when I walked in, 91 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:11,279 how many chairs are there? And I had to get 92 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,639 my real ID because obviously I'm flying this summer and 93 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:16,519 I need to you know, that's what you have to have. 94 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,079 So I waited maybe about twenty minutes in line, and 95 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:24,040 one of the ladies came out and said, you know, 96 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,519 what are you here for? They asked different people, and 97 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,439 there was probably in that twenty minutes there was probably 98 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:32,120 ten people that wind up behind me. I actually brought 99 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,040 one of my chairs because I sat on the sidewalk 100 00:05:34,079 --> 00:05:35,279 because I knew I was going to sit there for 101 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:39,199 a little bit. She took a couple of elderly people 102 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,279 that were waiting in front of me, and then maybe 103 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:45,240 about twenty minutes later, another lady came out and asked 104 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,319 me specifically what I was there for, you know, along 105 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,560 with the people in front of me, said real ID, 106 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:53,519 and she said, do you have your documents? I said yes, 107 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,040 And because I went online prior and saw all that 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,560 walked in and he checked me in, she'd like let 109 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,079 several people come in, as you know, could even though 110 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,439 they don't take walkins until noon, but you're still in line, 111 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,639 and they kind of, you know, worked you in and 112 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:13,480 she said, you're going to have to wait there, wait 113 00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:16,160 till your numbers called. You know, the appointments go first. 114 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,439 I was walked back there when my number was called, 115 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:21,879 got my real ID, which was very easy because I 116 00:06:21,879 --> 00:06:25,360 have the documents, and walked out. And when I walked 117 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,560 out it was ten twenty so and I got there 118 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,959 at eight forty five and I didn't have an appointment. Now, 119 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:33,639 when I was in line, I went ahead a mat. 120 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:36,240 I kept looking because I've been looking for several months 121 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:39,480 now just to get an appointment, and I was there 122 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,240 was a few in Charlotte that were opened on Monday 123 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:46,639 when I was sitting in line, because if they don't confirm, 124 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:49,800 then you know, the originals are deleted. So I have 125 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:52,680 I didn't have a bad experience. I'm hopeful. 126 00:06:53,639 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: Well, no, you just had to wait an hour and 127 00:06:55,319 --> 00:06:59,399 a half because you couldn't get an appointment right right. 128 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,800 And that's the problem because and had you been later 129 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,000 in the line, you might not have ever you could 130 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,439 have waited. And this happened to my sister in law 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,959 with her son, my nephew. They went to try to 132 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:16,480 get a learner's permit for him and they waited for 133 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,680 like six hours and never got in. 134 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,759 Speaker 3: Yes, and now Albumorrow is really good about if you 135 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:27,120 do wait, because I had to do that with my 136 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,839 child last year when they were getting their learners permit. 137 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:35,079 If you do wait, and you get to the point 138 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,040 where it's the end of the day, and yes, you 139 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,959 know it's hard that you have to wait that day, 140 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,519 but they will tell you, okay, hey, you will be 141 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,600 first in line if you come back tomorrow, and we'll 142 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,240 go ahead and take you because we weren't able to 143 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:50,879 see you today. 144 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: How do they know that you would be first in line? 145 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: Well, because in Albumarrow, you line up on the sidewalk 146 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,639 and then they'll come out continue you know, here and 147 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,279 there and say, okay, what are you here for? What 148 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,920 are you here for? And they they told me, they said, 149 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,879 just let us know as soon as you get here, 150 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:09,759 or you can always knock on this side door and 151 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:11,480 let us know that you're here and then you can 152 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:13,199 go in and wait in the chairs. 153 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, but so they but there's no record that 154 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:17,600 you were actually there. 155 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:22,759 Speaker 3: No, But it's it's the same people that work there 156 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,439 every day, so they kind. 157 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: Of maybe remember you, maybe not, yeah, right. 158 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: And then they have they have to wait times posted 159 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,080 online as well. 160 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: So but so you know how much of your life 161 00:08:36,519 --> 00:08:38,639 you're wasting? Right, No, that's good, that's helpful. 162 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:41,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the key, because the D and V 163 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:45,559 and with all of that, you are you are wasting time. 164 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,159 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, think about all of the more productive things 165 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:50,720 you could be doing, like doom scrolling for cat videos 166 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:53,080 on your TikTok, right, like this is what we have 167 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:53,919 to sacrifice. 168 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:55,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, all. 169 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,639 Speaker 1: Right, Jennifer, I appreciate the uh, thanks for the intel. 170 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,799 They all right, take care. I got a message on 171 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:09,000 Twitter a success story. My husband needs a real ID, 172 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:12,919 my son needs his learner's permit. I have been refreshing 173 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:18,200 the DMV screen for two months, just about daily. I 174 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,120 successfully got them an appointment on the same day and 175 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:24,679 same time at the same place, a mere two hours away. 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,360 Diamond in the rough experience. But I was relentless in 177 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,240 refreshing the screen to get my way. Now we just 178 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,000 have to go to the appointment in the summer. Thanks 179 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,279 for the four day confirmation tip, because I have I 180 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:39,240 had no idea that was a thing. I do not 181 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,039 want to lose this appointment. We are taking off work 182 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,519 to go to this well I guess not a success 183 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,879 quite yet story because we have not gone to the appointment, 184 00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:53,000 but getting the appointments has been crazy, like nothing available 185 00:09:53,039 --> 00:09:57,200 every day for months trying. Here's a great idea. How 186 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,360 about making an escape to a really special and fluted 187 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:03,200 getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up 188 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,360 the mountain and Cabins of Ashville is your connection. 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Hello Doug, 208 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,360 hey man, what's up under? 209 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,639 Speaker 2: Riding around in this old long trut looking down? But 210 00:11:17,879 --> 00:11:20,600 I can I'm just don't understand. Let me explain something 211 00:11:20,639 --> 00:11:27,159 to you. I didn't graduate, hass go I drive along? True? No, 212 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,120 I've been married three times. That tells you I ain't 213 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,960 the smartest person in the world. But this fact that 214 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,879 you got to have a license to get on the airplane, 215 00:11:32,919 --> 00:11:34,799 you ain't got to have one to vote is crazy. 216 00:11:34,879 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: It does seem to be a bit of a disconnect. 217 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,919 I think the argument would be that there's no constitutional 218 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:44,480 right to drive versus voting. I think that's that that 219 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:45,480 would be their argument. 220 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 2: Some people need to get their rights taken away. If 221 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,039 they got them, I'll tell you I'm not here all 222 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,639 day long. Make some fools at him. 223 00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:55,759 Speaker 1: Oh, I can confirm there are definitely fools on the roads. 224 00:11:55,759 --> 00:11:58,639 I'm usually surrounded by them everywhere I drive. But Doug, 225 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,000 I appreciate the calls stay safe there. Oh. This is 226 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:06,799 a reference to the twelve oh one am of the 227 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,480 twelve oh one reference where one tweeter said, don't say 228 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,480 it twelve oh one. I did not know what that meant. 229 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,240 Apparently in a follow up tweet from somebody else from 230 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,039 chooch that's their name. I don't pick these people's names. 231 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:28,360 They do, okay, says twelve oh one am. All the 232 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,320 appointments open up online. I mean, yes, they are three 233 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,679 months out, but they're there, so that's what you could do. Also, 234 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:42,480 you be online at midnight and when the next wave, 235 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,559 so when they open up the next day's appointments, you 236 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,639 can try to jump on and find the appointment. This 237 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,480 is the This is a huge problem too. It's like, 238 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:55,799 and I have encountered this in various aspects over my life. 239 00:12:56,279 --> 00:13:00,720 It's like the designers never consult with the end end users, 240 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,759 and so the user experience suffers. And that is the 241 00:13:06,799 --> 00:13:11,039 case with the DMV platform. Right, you have to go 242 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:17,039 and click on every individual office to find it's their 243 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,639 own calendars. Right, There's no there's no way to just say, like, 244 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,600 show me all of the all of the appointments that 245 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:30,080 are available to me in a list or something, or 246 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:33,399 on one calendar, show me all of the open appointments 247 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:36,279 within you know, one hundred miles of my location or something. 248 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,200 You got to go and click on the individual counties 249 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,000 and then that opens theirs their calendar and when you're 250 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,919 looking at their calendar, then you're like, oh, no appointments there, 251 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,360 So you got to back out. You got to scroll 252 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:52,559 back down because it's always like it would revert you 253 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,440 back to like the top of the page, and so 254 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,320 you're scrolling down to find these other offices and stuff. 255 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,840 So yeah, it's it's not user friends, and this is 256 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:07,879 not like cutting edge technology right for booking appointments. This 257 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:15,080 stuff exists across all sorts of other platforms. Jeff says. 258 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,200 Picture of future where DMV wait times are relics of 259 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:25,639 the past. Digital IDs replace driver licenses, renewals, registrations and 260 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,039 titles happen online supported by cutting edge, secure tech. That's 261 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,360 the future we believe North Carolinians deserve and the one 262 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,279 we will continue working to build. This is an op 263 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:42,039 ed at the Charlotte Observer by Michael Lazara. He's a 264 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Republican from Onslow County. Along with Senator Vicky Sawyer from 265 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,279 Ayerdale County in Mecklenburg County, they are co chairs of 266 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:54,200 the Senate Committee on Transportation. They want a streamlined, efficient DMV. 267 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,600 A significant part of that future, they say, rests in 268 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:07,600 conducting most DMV transactions online. Renewals, license applications, title transfers 269 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:13,120 should be available accessible online. With reliable digital options, North 270 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:17,360 Carolinians could handle up to ninety percent of their DMV 271 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:22,320 interactions from home. A key piece of this modernization is 272 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,440 the introduction of digital driver's licenses secured by advanced encryption. 273 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:31,080 A digital license stored on a smartphone offers the same 274 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:34,600 legitimacy as a plastic card, but without the hassle of 275 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,120 losing or replacing it. Several states are already testing this approach, 276 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,440 and North Carolina is on its way to become a 277 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:46,240 leader in protecting personal privacy while improving convenience. HA joke 278 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,120 is on you. I've already had all of my information 279 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,919 stolen years ago. You're too late to that party. We 280 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,039 can also rethink how we use license plates and inspection stickers. 281 00:15:58,519 --> 00:16:03,240 Emerging digital plate tech could simplify renewals, prevent fraud, and 282 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,679 provide real time updates if necessary. The annual inspection requirement 283 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:13,320 for new vehicles deserves fresh scrutiny. A twenty twenty three 284 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,679 model car is unlikely to have emissions problems, and law 285 00:16:16,759 --> 00:16:20,759 enforcement already ensures compliance with state law on window tending 286 00:16:20,919 --> 00:16:26,080 and other modifications. Reassessing these mandates would save time and resources, 287 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,960 and they have the license plate reader tech. 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Russ sends 309 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,279 me a message saying I don't have any problems with 310 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,759 DMV because I live in South Carolina. However, the real 311 00:17:44,839 --> 00:17:47,599 ID thing I took one of my sons to get 312 00:17:47,599 --> 00:17:50,359 his license. They asked if we wanted to get our 313 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,559 real IEDs and we said sure. Despite having my existing license, 314 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,599 conceal carry permit, a military contractor badge indicating secure clearance, 315 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,920 and a bank statement with both my name and my 316 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:07,480 son's name on it, I apparently did not have everything 317 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,599 I needed to verify my identity. So then she went 318 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,920 to my son, who, because he's under the age of eighteen. 319 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:19,559 She said that I, as the parent, could vouch for 320 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:31,839 him for the real ID. Yeah, that tracks, That makes sense, Mike. 321 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:32,920 Welcome to the program. 322 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: Hello Mike, thank you for taking my call for sure 323 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,039 what I'm about? What I'm about to tell you? You can't 324 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:41,960 make up? All right? So last year, about this time 325 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:45,000 last year, my wife and I had already gotten her visis. 326 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:47,599 We'd never traveled abroad. Told we need to get our 327 00:18:47,599 --> 00:18:51,079 real ID. So we go to the local DMV office here, 328 00:18:51,279 --> 00:18:52,680 not gonna name the county because I got to go 329 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,559 back in a couple of months my license. 330 00:18:55,079 --> 00:18:55,519 Speaker 1: That's smart. 331 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 4: So anyway, I go in with proper forms documents, need 332 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,599 to get real oued go to the d MV examiner. 333 00:19:01,599 --> 00:19:04,440 After standing there about two hours, and he goes, what 334 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,519 can I do for you? I said, I need to 335 00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:09,720 get my real ID. Why, well, I'm traveling abroad later 336 00:19:09,759 --> 00:19:12,039 in the fall. And I'm told I need it. No, 337 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,079 you don't. No, what do you mean? I don't? No, 338 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,079 you don't, I said, what do you mean? I don't. Oh, 339 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,119 don't worry about all that that's going to go away? 340 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,000 I said, excuse me, what do you mean it's going away? 341 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,200 Basically to paraphrase everything he was saying. It was a 342 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,839 scare taxi. It's now gonna at the time it won't 343 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,519 be required. This is all going to go away. I said, 344 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:34,000 are you kidding me? He goes, no, I'm serious. I said, 345 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,720 I'll tell you what. I'm not gonna take that chance. 346 00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:38,000 I need to get my real ID. So I called 347 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:40,759 body of mine American Airlines talk to an attorney of 348 00:19:40,759 --> 00:19:43,079 mine who travels abroad. He said, you better be glad 349 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,680 you got your real ID because it's cod of. 350 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: Me right, it's right now. Look, I understand a certain 351 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,680 amount of shall we say, skepticism that they are actually 352 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,519 going to start enforcing it on May seventh, because they 353 00:19:57,559 --> 00:20:03,079 have constantly bumped this and enforcement deadline back for you know, 354 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:06,960 almost two decades. So it I mean, I understand why 355 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,039 you might be skeptical of it. But for for a 356 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,160 d MV employee to act like they've got some sort 357 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,519 of inside information at the federal level on whether they're 358 00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:19,400 going to accept this at the airports, that's nuts. 359 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 4: He was almost frustrated with the fact that I was 360 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,079 requesting this, and I'll be honest, it kind of yielded 361 00:20:27,079 --> 00:20:29,240 me because I'm saying, I want to do the proper thing, 362 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,640 whether you want me to do it or not. I 363 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,400 want my real idea. But that wasn't I got the 364 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,519 real idea, and thank goodness, said did. Now. Of course 365 00:20:36,519 --> 00:20:39,000 I'm going back in a couple of weeks, hopefully to 366 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,200 get my license renewed without issue. But let me tell 367 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:42,720 you this, you. 368 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: Don't need to do that, Mike. They're doing away with 369 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:45,960 all that. Don't worry about it. 370 00:20:46,039 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, although I've got the real ID, and they say, well, 371 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,359 all you need to do is bring your your your 372 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:57,359 driver's license, inner your real idea and we'll reissue it 373 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,440 for you. I'm still taking those documents. I'm don't take 374 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,119 a chance on them tailing me. Oh just because you 375 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,319 have real ID, you still need documents. 376 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're going in for your renewal, not a duplicate, right, 377 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,119 So you're right, Which is so bizarre to me because 378 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,279 when I went from just the normal North Carolina license 379 00:21:16,599 --> 00:21:20,119 and I got the real ID, I got my picture taken, 380 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,079 I had to produce all of this information and they 381 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:25,799 didn't count that as a renewal. They counted it as 382 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:28,759 a duplicate. And that's exactly what they did to you. 383 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Apparently too, which is now you got a quote duplicate, 384 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,519 but it's not a duplicate because you had all of 385 00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:38,839 your information. The only thing, if I remember correctly, the 386 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,799 only difference that you're going to experience in this appointment 387 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,279 versus your real ID one besides the bad advice, is 388 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:50,720 an eye check. They're going to make you look through 389 00:21:50,759 --> 00:21:54,519 that thing, you know, and read the letters. That's it, 390 00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:57,200 to test your eye sight. That's I think that's going 391 00:21:57,279 --> 00:22:00,680 to be the only practical difference to count as a 392 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:03,079 renewal versus a duplicate license. 393 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,759 Speaker 4: It's it's, uh, well, you know, whether you're for I 394 00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:10,440 think it's a great thing. I'm all for it. You know, 395 00:22:10,519 --> 00:22:14,400 I'm not a conspiracy theoris or whatever. I'm just glad 396 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,119 you're doing it. Just be honest with tea. 397 00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: The real ID. Yeah, the real idea, if I mean, 398 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,200 I mean, if it is actually more secure, I guess sure. 399 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:28,440 But you know, it's hard for me to believe that 400 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,200 this was a vital security issue considering they kept delaying 401 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,559 it for twenty years. You know that good That kind 402 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:37,680 of undermines their point. 403 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much. 404 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:46,319 Speaker 1: All right, you two appreciate it. It's it's the it's 405 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,519 it's like so much of this stuff, A lot of 406 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,839 it is theater, you know. Now. About a month ago, 407 00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:56,759 a month and a half ago, the North Carolina House 408 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,359 Oversight Committee held a hearing on the North Carolina DMV, 409 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,960 and they dragged in front of the committee Wayne Goodwin. 410 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,640 Wayne Goodwin, the commissioner of the North Carolina DMV, and 411 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:19,039 he announced they're either like right before or the day 412 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,559 after something, that he is stepping down when his term ends, 413 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,440 having led the DMV since twenty twenty two. And he 414 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:33,039 made the announcement when the State Auditor's office announced that 415 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,400 they were going to do an audit of the North 416 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,200 Carolina DMV. Who's Wayne Goodman A Goodwin? Alright? 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Wayne Goodwin who 435 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,119 is the Commissioner of the North Carolina Division of Motor Vehicles. 436 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:55,880 Wayne Goodwin is the former Insurance Commissioner of North Carolina 437 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,920 and he was also the former chairman of the North 438 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:09,160 Carolina Democrat Party, which I don't want to assume that 439 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:14,160 that's how he got the appointment post. But in twenty 440 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:17,960 nineteen he was raising money and he was going to 441 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:27,079 run again for insurance commissioner, but then he I don't 442 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,640 think he did, and then then he got the post. 443 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,519 So from Cooper he was a political appointment to run 444 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:41,279 the DMV, And so he went in front of this 445 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:47,480 House Oversight Committee a couple weeks back, and the House 446 00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:53,759 Majority leader in the committee, co chair, Representative Brandon Jones, Republican, said, quote, 447 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,880 under your tenure, the DMV has been one of the 448 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,920 most dysfunctional agencies in state government. Goodwin blamed the two 449 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,200 and a half million people moving to the state in 450 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,759 such a short time span. He blamed the need for 451 00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:11,519 more staff and offices, employees being overworked and underpaid, and 452 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:14,880 the need for more modernization. Has the reasons for the 453 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,680 long wait times in line and waiting for months to 454 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,039 get an appointment. Goodwin also begrudgingly accepted responsibility after Jones 455 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,559 repeatedly asked him who was responsible for the DMV failures 456 00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:32,119 over the last three years. Quote, as Harry S. Truman 457 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,160 would say, the buck stops with me. But I think 458 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,640 any reasonable person that I know know that I'm not 459 00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:42,880 running the entire DMV. But I am the commissioner. And 460 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,240 Brendan Jones says, so you're the head, so you take 461 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:52,039 responsibility for the failures, and he said, I take responsibility. Fine. Fine. 462 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Representative Harry Warren asked if the DMV could have split 463 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:58,240 shifts be opened later in the evening to accommodate people 464 00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:01,400 getting home from Workwin said they did look at that, 465 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,240 but that would require more employees to be hired. Jones 466 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,640 asked again why things like the online appointment portal haven't 467 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,079 been fixed for the past three years. They're very popular, 468 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,279 Goodwin said, and there's only so many twenty minute time 469 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,119 blocks in the given day. The insurance Commissioner doesn't have 470 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,000 the power or authority to add more minutes to a day. 471 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,160 Only God Almighty can do that. So that's it. So 472 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,079 that's the kind of leadership we have had at the DMV. 473 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,720 It's like going to take an act of God to 474 00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:40,160 make this any better. Guys. Representative Alan chesher Chesser Sorry 475 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,559 from Nash County Republican questioned why the DMV contracted a 476 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,920 vendor that could not comply with state law requiring IDs 477 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,839 to be printed in color, which in turn led the 478 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,119 state to have to go out and buy more equipment 479 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,200 for the vendor to be able to print in color 480 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:04,920 that cost taxpayers more. Goodwin said, I was unintentional, total mistake. 481 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:05,319 Speaker 4: But. 482 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: But you ran an RFP for that, a request for proposal, right, 483 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:18,519 you guys looked at the service contracts. Chesster disagreed, stating 484 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,440 that Goodwin himself had previously testified that he hoped the 485 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,440 General Assembly would be amenable to changing the law. So 486 00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:32,200 that's the oh man, we gave this contract to a 487 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:36,079 vendor who can't do it in color, so we're gonna 488 00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:37,880 have to buy them all this new equipment. Or you know, 489 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,119 maybe you guys could change the law to allow black 490 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:46,000 and white photos too. It's so on brand for the DMV, 491 00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,720 Goodwin touted, Hey, look, we got nine kiosks in various 492 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:54,920 locations around the whole state. Nine kiosks that have produced 493 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,559 twenty seven hundred transactions per month. He said that they 494 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,599 would like that number to grow to twenty two kiosks, 495 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,720 but there would need to be forty five hundred transactions 496 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,880 a month in order to justify the kiosks. So far, 497 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,319 twenty one thousand people have taken advantage of the kiosks. 498 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:14,279 There were also just under a million people who used 499 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:17,799 the online portal last year or Sorry in twenty twenty three, 500 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:21,079 leaving him to comment that the lines and the wait 501 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,960 times that the DMV offices would have been much worse 502 00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:28,200 if the twenty one thousand people or the million people 503 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,440 didn't use those alternate methods. Representative timoth Reader, a doctor 504 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,839 Republican from pitt asked why there wasn't a dashboard for 505 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,880 the public to see wait times for different DMV locations. 506 00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:45,000 Goodwin said, I can give you a sublink for that. 507 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,759 But readers said, well, why is in on the website, Like, 508 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,920 if you have the if you have a sublink, you 509 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,920 have the ability to show this information. Why are you 510 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,319 not showing the information to the users. Or is this 511 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:03,759 some sort of like like a commy party kind of 512 00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:06,720 thing where it's like the party leadership they get access 513 00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,160 to the sub link so they can see and they 514 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,359 get to use that portal. Goodwin said he didn't write 515 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:17,519 the website code. I'm out of coder, So yeah, it's 516 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,240 beyond my abilities as the commissioner. You know. It's just 517 00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:23,839 this guy's got this guy's got a case of the 518 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:30,839 not my fault. McFadden's sounds like he going on to 519 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,079 say that, I guess what I'm asking you is, if 520 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,160 you are not the one who can authorize to put 521 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,039 data on your website, who is it that we need 522 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:41,279 to ask that question? Goodwin said, you probably got to 523 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:46,119 ask my boss, North Carolina Department of Transportation Secretary Joey Hopkins. 524 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:51,440 So the Secretary of Transportation, he can put a sub 525 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,200 link on your website, but you, the guy in charge 526 00:30:54,200 --> 00:31:01,440 of the website, you cannot. Okay, that makes sense. Meanwhile, 527 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,440 you got these license plate readers. I saw this press 528 00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:10,240 release from Lincoln County Sheriff's office the other day. They're 529 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:14,559 in the process of installing thirty license plate recognition cameras 530 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:19,160 across the county to solve and reduce serious crime. Flock 531 00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:24,640 Safety cameras. That's the company Flock. They're contracted using drug 532 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,079 assets caizure funds, not tax dollars. These cameras send a 533 00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:31,119 real time alert to law enforcement when a stolen car 534 00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:33,920 or known wanted suspect of felony crime from a state 535 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,119 or national crime database is detected. They also send out 536 00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:39,839 alerts for a tag number connected with a missing person, 537 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,759 an Amber alert or a Silver alert. So do we 538 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,319 have we got the technology to be scanning people's license plates, 539 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:58,519 So why not have that ability for cops to scan 540 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,359 the license plates to see if the car is due 541 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,200 for inspection, If they are overdue for inspection, right, doesn't 542 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,519 that seem to be like a better use than making 543 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:13,039 everybody like having DMV issue the stickers and all that stuff. 544 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,200 You just enter it into the system, although that does 545 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:20,799 require them to enter it into the system. So but hey, 546 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,960 if they're able to crack down on the fake license 547 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,519 plates with the tech, like, I'm all for it. I am. 548 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,839 It's I am surrounded by people with temporary tags everywhere 549 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:33,359 I drive. I don't understand, like this is a new thing. 550 00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,240 And then I read this piece over WSOCTV that apparently 551 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,039 you can get these things in like a day or 552 00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:43,519 two and they're fakes, and that's what people have been doing. 553 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:48,279 So like, I guess, chances are you see those temporary tags, 554 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,920 chances are they might not be real. Drivers have spotted 555 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:57,680 the same fake temporary plate on twenty cars in an area. 556 00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:00,240 One photo even showed two drivers side by side with 557 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:06,519 the identical fake plates. This is an area of focus 558 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:10,799 for the Union County Sheriff's office, who said that there 559 00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:14,440 is one plate that they have picked up ninety times, 560 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:21,240 same plate. Some people just they pay the printer of 561 00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:26,799 that fictitious plate sixty bucks and they're there. Apparently you 562 00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:31,519 could find this stuff online. The seller says online that 563 00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:34,200 they can register the vehicle's information to their system to 564 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,640 generate the plate, and the tag would be sent in 565 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,920 a PDF format and you just print it and then 566 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,720 slap it on your car. It yeah, like crack the 567 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,799 whip on these people. I don't know why this angers 568 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,839 me so much. I just I don't. I know that 569 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,240 they're gonna end up in the DMV lines too. Gosh, 570 00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:56,200 it's a conundrum. All right. That'll do it for this episode. 571 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,319 Thank you so much for listening. I could not do 572 00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:00,519 the show without your support and the support of the 573 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,599 businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, 574 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,799 please support them too and tell them you heard it here. 575 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,480 You can also become a patron at my Patreon page 576 00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:12,159 or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so 577 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,639 much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.