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<v Speaker 1>We have in studio NASA astronaut and Space Force Guardian

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<v Speaker 1>Colonel Nick Haig now back on Earth, touring the US

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about life in space, and he's here with

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<v Speaker 1>us in studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Colonel Haig.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Amy, it's a pleasure to be here, and

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for the warm welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, we had a little welcome home party and

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<v Speaker 1>we have some treats and all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know when did you get back. It was

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<v Speaker 2>in March.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the end of March is when we landed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been about three months. Time flies a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>those months, it flies because I'm just heads down, trying

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<v Speaker 3>to rehabilitate and figure out how to live in gravity.

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<v Speaker 4>Again.

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<v Speaker 3>You spend a while floating around on orbit and you

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<v Speaker 3>forget just how strong gravity is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we had talked one other time, and you were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how you go from completely not knowing which

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<v Speaker 2>direction is up or down and weightlessness, and we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about how you said you got the best sleep of

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<v Speaker 2>your life in space.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, indeed, and now I have to suffer an earthing

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<v Speaker 3>Earthlink's fate and sleep in.

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<v Speaker 2>A bed, and is it difficult?

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<v Speaker 3>It's different, you know, you wake up and maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>have a little toss and turn a little bit, or

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<v Speaker 3>my back doesn't feel quite right, or I'm on an

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<v Speaker 3>arm and it just you know, kind of falls asleep

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, dang, I wish I was back on

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<v Speaker 3>orbit because that was the best sleep ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so up in orbit, you were up there for it?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it one hundred and seventy days around there?

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred Yeah, a little over one hundred and seventy days? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What there has to be like one thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely miss about it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Or is there just one? There isn't just one.

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<v Speaker 3>The obvious stuff is being able to float around and

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<v Speaker 3>flip and just play in microgravity where everything floats, the

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<v Speaker 3>or to float over to the window and then be

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<v Speaker 3>able to see the Earth and the universe in front

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<v Speaker 3>of you in a way that just you can't do

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground. But you know, probably the other thing

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<v Speaker 3>that you might not think about missing my crewmates, I

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<v Speaker 3>spend six months with six other people inside this really

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<v Speaker 3>confined space, and and and you get to know each

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<v Speaker 3>other so well. And then when we hit the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>we kind of go all our separate ways. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 3>and we're doing all these different things, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>don't see them as much as you did while you

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<v Speaker 3>were up there. Uh, and so you miss those friendships.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you still communicate with them a lot?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as you know, as much as we can. And

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately most of it's on a on a phone because

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<v Speaker 3>we're not in close proximity together. Uh necessarily, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we'll run into each other and it's a

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<v Speaker 3>it's a big hug, and and hey, how you been,

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<v Speaker 3>how's the how's how's rehab going? Yeah, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>all all suffering all the aches and pains and and

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<v Speaker 3>and everything that comes with trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>to walk in gravity again.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh, and you know, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally get to the point where those aches become age

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<v Speaker 3>appropriate and uh and you're back to normal.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said that you do get it back pretty

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<v Speaker 1>quickly though, that when you come back to Earth, all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you got all of this weight on

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<v Speaker 1>you that you didn't have, and your muscles are all

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<v Speaker 1>screwed up because they don't know how to work again.

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<v Speaker 2>But it snaps back, I think, is what you said.

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<v Speaker 4>It does.

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<v Speaker 3>The mind, there's a couple of different layers. The mind

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<v Speaker 3>snaps back and starts to appreciate that you're in an

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<v Speaker 3>environment where everything doesn't float, and it understands what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Your balance comes back fairly quick within a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 3>But the and you're strong because while you're on the

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<v Speaker 3>space station two and a half hours a day every day,

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<v Speaker 3>we're lifting weights and.

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<v Speaker 2>We're saw some videos if you work it out, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Come back strong, but you haven't had to balance and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, stabilize your body, and so all the little muscles,

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<v Speaker 3>all the joints take time to kind of reacclimate. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of the long pole.

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<v Speaker 1>So does it feel a little bit like you're drunk

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<v Speaker 1>or something like you just can't lose your balance, So.

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<v Speaker 4>The wobbly goes away. It feels like you went and

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<v Speaker 4>ran a marathon.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's the day after, and the joints ache, the muscles.

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<v Speaker 2>Ache, yellow legs a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a little slow trying to, you know, get up

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<v Speaker 3>from sitting. Feels like you're twenty years older than you

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<v Speaker 3>actually are.

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<v Speaker 4>But slowly the body.

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<v Speaker 3>Responds and after a while it's like somebody flipped a

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<v Speaker 3>switch and hey, I'm back to normal.

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<v Speaker 2>And are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you back to one hundred percent, you think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for it'll fall over when you're walking anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>I have fallen over recently. Now back to as normal

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<v Speaker 3>as I can be. The kind of the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still waiting is you do lose some bone mass

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<v Speaker 3>while you're up there, some bone density, and so your

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<v Speaker 3>body will slowly accumulate that, and that's about a day

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<v Speaker 3>per day. So at about the six month point, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>truly be back to about one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you mentioned cell phones and how you guys

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<v Speaker 1>text each other because you don't get to see each

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<v Speaker 1>other as much. But we were just talking with the

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<v Speaker 1>author of a book called unplugg who we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how cell phones just rule your lives and is

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<v Speaker 1>it possible just to turn it off and disconnect for

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<v Speaker 1>a while.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to do that, you had no choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no cell phone coverage. And on the space station, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with all those Starlink satellites.

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<v Speaker 3>Even with all the all the satellites, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>still have email. We still have the ability to make

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<v Speaker 3>phone calls, which is crazy, talk to somebody on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's actually one of the things that I enjoyed doing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, representing the Space Wars. Being being a guardian

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<v Speaker 3>in space, I would take the opportunity every every week

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<v Speaker 3>steal some minutes at the end of a day and

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<v Speaker 3>call down to one of the ops floors and surprise,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the Space Wars guardians is sitting there doing

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<v Speaker 3>the mission that's helping protect me and say, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just it's Nick on orbit.

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<v Speaker 4>Just want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say and see how things are going down there. And

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's the power of talking with somebody and

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<v Speaker 3>hearing their voice and and the emotion and the inflections

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<v Speaker 3>and their voice. It's something that you really appreciate. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're unplugged up there.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we have one hundred other things to ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought you were going to talk about talking

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<v Speaker 1>to students and stem because I believe you did.

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<v Speaker 2>That while you were up there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, i'd love to ask you that when we come back. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to find out more about life in space

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<v Speaker 1>and then life back on Earth and what's next for

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<v Speaker 1>Colonel Haig. So if you'll hang tight, absolutely all right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is NASA Astronauts Space Force Guardian Colonel Nick Haig

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<v Speaker 1>live with us in studio this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get in your business with Bloomberg's Courtney Donaho.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Courtney. I know that we are abbreviated today,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have just a couple of things to check

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<v Speaker 1>in on, and one is how are the markets looking today.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's looking a little rough out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 5>We just got a report on the health of the consumer.

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<v Speaker 5>Retail sales felled by the most since the start of

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<v Speaker 5>the year, since May, suggesting that the new tariffs are

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<v Speaker 5>holding back consumers from spending. So this is continuing to

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<v Speaker 5>weigh on stocks, which we're already under pressure from the

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<v Speaker 5>conflict between Israel and Iran. Futures right now down one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and ninety five points. It was a different story

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<v Speaker 5>yesterday because stocks saw solid gains on a report that

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<v Speaker 5>Aron wanted to restart talks over its nuclear program. That

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<v Speaker 5>down rose three hundred and seventeen points to wrap up

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<v Speaker 5>the session.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing how much what's going on in the world

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<v Speaker 1>affects these markets like this, And then wanted to take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick look at Red Lobster.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cooking up a comeback.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, they're looking to attract a new generation of fans

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<v Speaker 5>with some old favorites. The chain has brought back its

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<v Speaker 5>fried hush puppies and the crispy crunchy popcorn shrimp that

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<v Speaker 5>was always my favorite. But Red Lobster also has refreshed

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<v Speaker 5>its menu with some new items to try to track people,

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<v Speaker 5>including lobster paper, deli pasta, and bacon wrapped scalps bacon.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, yeah, but there's also they fought for bankruptcy,

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<v Speaker 5>you have to remember last year for a number of reasons,

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<v Speaker 5>including their unprofitable unlimited shrimp deals. So they're trying to

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<v Speaker 5>do some things to try to correct all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But delicious unlimited shrimp deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, getting in your business with Bloomberg's Courtney Donna, who

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it again tomorrow? Shall we definitely see you later?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks Courtney. We are talking to a true

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<v Speaker 1>rocket man. It's NASA astronaut and Space Force Guardian Colonel

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<v Speaker 1>Nick hagu fresh off a trip to the International Space Station.

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<v Speaker 2>And Colonel Haig, this was your second time up there. Oops,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to turn your mica on.

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<v Speaker 4>There we go. Yeah, second time to the Space Station.

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<v Speaker 3>I first, My first time up there was for seven

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<v Speaker 3>months in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and we got to go back just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was it was his second attempt when he

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<v Speaker 1>got to the space station for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened for the first at You know, if at

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<v Speaker 3>first you don't succeed, try again. In fall of twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>I was launching to the space station for a six

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<v Speaker 3>month mission with a lexe of Chennin on a soy

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<v Speaker 3>Use rocket and we had a failure in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the launch that caused us to a board to

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<v Speaker 3>say eject and the capsule came back down. So what

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<v Speaker 3>was supposed to be a six month mission was a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minute flight.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, So you.

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<v Speaker 2>Launched, everything looked good and then how far in?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, did you know something was We were two minutes in.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was going fine. The first stage was separating and

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<v Speaker 3>there was a problem where it didn't separate cleanly and

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<v Speaker 3>it impacted the rocket that was continuing to burn, and

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<v Speaker 3>it rapidly disassembled.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I love how you guys did it rapidly disassembled.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that when SpaceX did their what's the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the big rocket starship? Yeah, the starship, they said

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<v Speaker 1>it went for like thirty minutes and then it rapidly disassembled, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it all happened so fast. We were thirty

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<v Speaker 3>miles up, going four thousand miles an hour. In you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the snap of a finger, the alarm goes off, the

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then when you eject, you don't eject like

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<v Speaker 1>a fighter pilot ejectory, and you're still in the capsule.

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<v Speaker 3>So the rockets pulled the capsule away and then we

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<v Speaker 3>landed in the capsule with parashues just like we normally would,

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<v Speaker 3>actually really close to where we were going to land

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<v Speaker 3>six months later, just a little bit earlier than we

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<v Speaker 1>And this time when you came back after your six months,

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<v Speaker 1>you brought Sonny and Butch back with you. You had to

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<v Speaker 1>those changes as it progressed, where it went from a

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<v Speaker 1>you the commander of the crew nine mission and then

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<v Speaker 1>you went up with two, you came back with four. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to ask you when you came back.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the coolest thing that we saw. Because several

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<v Speaker 1>watching when you splash down back on Earth and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, a pod of dolphins shows up in

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<v Speaker 1>the water like twenty feet from the capsule. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys get to see that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Inside the capsule we couldn't see it. The windows at

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<v Speaker 3>that point had been charred over from re entry. And

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<v Speaker 3>then they pull us all the way to the boat

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<v Speaker 3>got back to Houston and somebody showed me, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>put a phone in front of me and said, did

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<v Speaker 3>you see this video?

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the most amazing, surreal thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Lead it to nature.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing all the technological feats of sending people to

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<v Speaker 3>integrating crew members that hadn't trained on a vehicle to

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<v Speaker 3>be part of a crew and lands, you know, safely,

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<v Speaker 3>and then nature steals the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're back and right now we know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're touring around and meeting with different groups and talking.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know one of the things that you did

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<v Speaker 1>while you're in space is you talk to STEM kids. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And why is that so important for you and for

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, STEM is that found stem science technology

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<v Speaker 3>education math or engineering math education is such a foundational

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<v Speaker 3>necessity in our society. And and it really is the

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<v Speaker 3>fuel behind the things that that NASA does or the

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<v Speaker 3>things that the Space Force does. And and so it's

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<v Speaker 3>important to reach out to students and let them understand

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<v Speaker 3>the importance of their education and and just and just

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<v Speaker 3>what the opportunities that that education is going to open

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<v Speaker 3>up for them. So every chance I get, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>try to get out and uh and and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>inspire the next generation. I look at the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Them and I'm like, wanted to you do you want

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<v Speaker 4>to be an astro Do you want to walk on Mars?

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<v Speaker 4>Why not? Okay? And and try to inspire them a

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>What what was your first like aha moment, Hey, I

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<v Speaker 3>I can distinctly remember when I was in elementary school

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<v Speaker 3>and we brought the entire school together. It's Kansas, so

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<v Speaker 3>a small school system. We brought everybody together and you

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<v Speaker 3>listen to them talk and you realize, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>just a person. They came from somewhere. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I come from somewhere. So why couldn't I do that?

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<v Speaker 3>If that's something that interests.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you had the opportunity, or maybe you already

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<v Speaker 1>know about it, would you go back up?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely? The spaceflight is this.

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<v Speaker 3>It on a personal level, a challenge, challenges everything you

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<v Speaker 3>know about the Earth and yourself and the universe that

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<v Speaker 3>we live in. And then just from being able to

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<v Speaker 3>serve and do what we're doing for the country as

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<v Speaker 3>well as for the world. You know, the space station.

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<v Speaker 3>We're up there doing scientific research and we're learning about

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves and the universe around us, and that knowledge is

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<v Speaker 3>for the benefit of humanity, And so how could you

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<v Speaker 3>not want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be part of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you said, we're learning about ourselves, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that when we talked when you first got back,

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<v Speaker 1>you were saying, you're kind of a science experiment for NASA.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, you know, you raise your hand and you

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<v Speaker 3>can be a guinea pig. And quite a few different experiments,

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<v Speaker 3>and so there was about a dozen this last time

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<v Speaker 3>around where I was the test subject and they were

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<v Speaker 3>poking and prodding and then sometimes shocking, and yes, they

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<v Speaker 3>were shocking. Yeah, we were doing some muscle stimulation, trying

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<v Speaker 3>to see if that might be an effective way to

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<v Speaker 3>avoid having to bring all of that heavy equipment that

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<v Speaker 3>we have to use in order to do weight training.

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<v Speaker 3>As we go to the Moon and on to Mars,

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<v Speaker 3>mass and volume become really precious, and so we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out alternatives.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So in the short term, you've got something that

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<v Speaker 1>I am so jealous of. An any Dodger fan, any

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<v Speaker 1>baseball fan, has got to be so jealous of. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us what you're doing this evening?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I get to go to the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 3>Game tonight, Yes, and and get out on the mound

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<v Speaker 3>and throw out a first pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you believe that?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you excited?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I am excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been practicing?

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<v Speaker 4>I've if you may have caught me throwing a ball

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<v Speaker 4>with my son.

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<v Speaker 1>Your son is looking at you right now because he's

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<v Speaker 1>here in studio with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he practiced enough?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>That was a resounding no.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we'll be watching you.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I mentioned, you're you can channel your inner show, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>because he pitched for the first time last all right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Colonel Hag NASA Astronaut, Space Force Guardian.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been such a pleasure to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish we had you all day because I have

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<v Speaker 1>like pages and pages of things that I questions that

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to ask you. But hopefully we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to talk again soon because I think that your journey

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<v Speaker 1>is not over yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Amy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Colonel Haig, thank you, thank you so much,