WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:05.240 It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Leazy Boston 2 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:06.080 News Radio. 3 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:09.039 All right, welcome back. I want to thank my guests, 4 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:12.160 the Auditor of the come Wealth of Massachusetts, Diana de Zaglio, 5 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:15.080 And again I would encourage those of you who know 6 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:18.719 state representatives, who know state senators, you need to say 7 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:21.480 to the look. Now, this is a law that was 8 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:24.839 passed by seventy two percent of the voters of Massachusetts 9 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:29.239 and initiative petition seventy two percent to authorize the auditor 10 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:32.520 to audit the books of the state legislature. This is 11 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:35.560 one that we'll talk about more frequently here on Night 12 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:39.000 Side as time goes on. But this is just pure 13 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.920 political bluster by the Speaker and the Senate to a 14 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.719 lesser degree by the Senate President. But the Speaker who's 15 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:49.759 never been on this program and probably never will be 16 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:52.719 on this program, but he can come on this program 17 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:56.560 any night, any night. Or Karen Spielkill come on this program, 18 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:58.759 who has been on this program, She can come on 19 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:02.000 any night and just to find their unwillingness to comply 20 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.799 with the will of seventy two percent of the voters 21 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:10.159 here in Massachusetts. Now, let's talk about Washington and let's 22 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:13.840 talk about the Department of Government Efficiency, which is headed 23 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:18.480 by Elon Musk. Put it in perspective, put it in perspective. 24 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:27.519 At this point, about a third of the voters support 25 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:35.239 what those is doing overall. Now, about a third of 26 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:43.239 those voters also feel that this is not something that 27 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:46.879 is legal. And we'll talk about this, but there's a 28 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:50.799 really definitive split here. Seventy percent of Trump voters say 29 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:54.680 it's great and seventy three percent of Harris voters say 30 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:58.480 it's not so great. So there is now again to 31 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.480 the Victor Golders spoils, to all of that, is there fraud? 32 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.359 Is there waste within the federal government? You bet you. 33 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:09.680 If we can eliminate the fraud and waste, that is 34 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:15.639 a laudable goal. However, however, it came to my attention 35 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:21.400 earlier this week that you know these letters that Elon 36 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.400 Musk has been sending out, or he hasn't, but the 37 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:27.759 government under it, with his instructions, has been sending out 38 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.520 in which everybody has to list five things that they 39 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:36.639 did last week. Okay. Musk commented on that during a 40 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:40.000 recent cabinet meeting in which he was he held fourth 41 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:44.039 for quite quite a while, and he was talking now 42 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:47.280 about sending out these emails. I don't know if your 43 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:50.439 boss ever sent you an email that said, hey, we 44 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:52.800 want to make sure that you tell us five things 45 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.840 you did last week. Okay, I could tell my boss 46 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.159 five hundred things I did last week, and I'm sure 47 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.560 you could as well, but I really don't want to 48 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:05.520 have to waste my time telling my boss. Now, there 49 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:10.280 is some concern that some federal workers have checked out 50 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:15.400 because of the time that OVID, When COVID occurred and 51 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.360 federal workers were given the opportunity to work from home 52 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.840 or work remotely, and there's probably some abuse to that. 53 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:25.439 And if Elon Musk can find that abuse, I say, 54 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:29.639 go for it. But this was Musk in the Oval office. 55 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:31.639 I believe it was some time. It was last week, 56 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.360 and he was asked to talk about why he's sending 57 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:40.960 out these and requesting emails from literally everyone who works. 58 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:43.919 I don't know who's going to read them, but this 59 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:48.520 is what his response was when he was prompted by 60 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:53.639 the President to talk about the theory behind sending out 61 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:58.599 emails and having legitimate federal employees as well as maybe 62 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:02.759 people who have have zoned out. Maybe they're retired, maybe 63 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:04.919 they're dead. I don't know. This is what muskt to say. 64 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.039 Cut thirty three, rob President. 65 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.560 Mister, are there about half of the government and employees 66 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:14.639 so far up here to responded to your requests for 67 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:16.839 what they've been doing over the past week? Is there 68 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.839 a timeline in place for next moves for people being fired? 69 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:21.279 You want to get in there to you will expect 70 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:27.680 to see you think results, yes, well to like the 71 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.399 I think that email as was best interpreted as a 72 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:33.360 proponent's review, but actually. 73 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:34.399 It was a plus check review. 74 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:35.680 Do you have a. 75 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:39.800 You have a pulse and two neurons? 76 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:41.360 I don't know. 77 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:43.000 If you have a fulse in two neurons, you can 78 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:47.040 replace me an email. This is you know, I think, 79 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:50.079 not a high balk. That is what I'm saying. This 80 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:52.079 is a should we anyone can accomplish this. 81 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:54.399 But what we are trying to get to the bottom 82 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:56.120 of it is we think there are a number of 83 00:04:56.439 --> 00:05:00.879 people on pair well who are dead, which is probably 84 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:05.079 why they can't respond, and and some people who are 85 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.399 not real people, like beneficially fictional individuals that are collecting paycheck. 86 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:10.000 I think, well, some of these collecting paychecks are a 87 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.879 fictional individual. Literally, Trump grant all these people real, are 88 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:17.279 they alive and can their right event? Which I think 89 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:20.439 is a reasonable expectation for there. You know, the American 90 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:23.240 public would have to least that expectation of someone. 91 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.519 In the public center. Okay, so he basically wants to know, 92 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:31.279 are you alive, et cetera. Well, I think, and I've 93 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:35.480 used this phrase before, that they need to be a 94 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:37.720 little more careful in what they do. And it has 95 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:42.120 come to my attention that there is an organization that 96 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:44.519 some of you perhaps have heard of, perhaps you haven't 97 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:48.680 heard of it. It's called the Trauma and Critical Trauma 98 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:52.720 and Critical Care Teams. What these teams are? These these 99 00:05:52.839 --> 00:06:00.199 are teams of medical professionals who volunteer their time to 100 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:05.240 respond to crises like nine to eleven, like Hurricane Katrina, 101 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:09.439 like all the fires I'm sure in South Carolina, the 102 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:17.000 fires in southern California. These are critical care physicians, surgeons, 103 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:23.839 emergency medican medicine physicians, physicians, assistants so called pas, nurse practitioners, 104 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:35.319 registered nurses, nurse anesthetists, paramedics, respiratory therapists, radiology technologists, surgical technologists, 105 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:38.879 and pharmacists. Basically, these are people who are on a 106 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:44.319 very very important list, short notice. They get a phone 107 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:50.639 call because there's been a disaster and they need help. 108 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:55.199 Some Americans need help. These people are volunteers. Think of 109 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:58.319 them as a volunteer fire department. If you've ever lived 110 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:03.480 in a volunteer in a town that was small, you 111 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:07.040 don't have a full time fire department, but you have 112 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:11.240 a group of people, men and women who when there's 113 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:14.639 a fire, they race to the fire station and they 114 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.720 jump in the truck and they do what the truck 115 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:18.360 or trucks and they do what they can to help 116 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:23.680 their neighbors. So think of it like that. Apparently these 117 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:30.639 folks have received these letters. So you're a volunteer. You 118 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:36.639 might go months or years without being called into action. 119 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:39.560 You have your twenty four hour bag packed and ready 120 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:42.079 to go. When you get the call. You don't say, 121 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:43.839 you know, I think I'll run on a toothpaste. Let 122 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.360 me hit to CVS and get myself some toothpaste. No, 123 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:51.759 you have to. There's an assembly point, logan airport or wherever. 124 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:54.720 That's where you go, and you get on a plane 125 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:58.959 and you go and you help people. So I think 126 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:04.240 that the Trump administration under the guidance, if not the 127 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:07.920 leadership of Elon Musk as the head of DOGE is 128 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.040 a little out over their skis here, and there have 129 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:15.319 been a lot of things that they have requested and 130 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:20.399 things that have been said that I think are hurtful 131 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:25.720 to the cause of finding genuine fraud. There's no way 132 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:30.160 that anyone who's looking for government deficiency should have sent 133 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:36.679 an email to people who are medical volunteers and who 134 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:39.559 are there to help their fellow countrymen in the time 135 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:43.159 of crisis as stupid dumb email. Well, we need to 136 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.639 have five things that you did for us last month. No, 137 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:53.720 they didn't last week. They weren't volunteering. So I want 138 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:57.679 to open this conversation, and I think that the Trump 139 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:00.799 administration will be a lot small it to deal with 140 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:05.000 something more like a scalpel than a jackhammer. We'll take 141 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.279 a break if you'd like to join the conversation on this. 142 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:08.799 And I know some of you are going to disagree 143 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:11.000 with me. Some of this is not intended as a 144 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:14.159 criticism of an effort to get rid of waste, fraud 145 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:17.759 and abuse, but this is a criticism if you're going 146 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:21.440 to be called the Department of Government Efficiency for God's sakes, 147 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:24.919 be efficient in terms of what you request from government employees. 148 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.559 Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, 149 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:30.720 one ten thirty. My name's Dan Ray. Will be back 150 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.759 starting with phone calls right after this quick break. 151 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:38.240 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 152 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:43.639 night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio Bell. 153 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:47.360 I've used the metaphor that the Trump administration might be 154 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:50.080 out over their skis here a little bit, because I 155 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:53.360 think what's going to happen is if you threaten to 156 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:57.679 UH in such a way that the public thinks that 157 00:09:57.799 --> 00:10:05.320 everybody is a federal employee, even doctors, nurses, pharmacists, medical 158 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.360 professionals who are volunteering their time, volunteering their time to 159 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:12.200 help out any part of this country or even some 160 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.480 parts of the world when there's a crisis, I think 161 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:17.879 you'll lose the moral high ground. And that's what I'm 162 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:21.200 concerned about. And I think that they need to be 163 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:25.159 careful what they talk about, because the more they talk, 164 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:27.879 there's a lot of people saying, you want to do 165 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:30.399 what you want to close federal buildings. I mean, yeah, 166 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.759 should can there be some federal buildings closed? Sure? But 167 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.039 it's you can't do it tomorrow. Let's go to the phones. 168 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.559 Let me go to Ron in Newton first first up 169 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:42.360 this hour, Run and welcome back to Night's Side. Thanks 170 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:50.159 so much for calling. Hello, Hello, Hi, Ron, you're on ear. Okay, 171 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.440 we're having problems with the phones again, Rob that we 172 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:59.399 had had before. Okay, let's go to run now try 173 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.519 that trick. Rob. Let's see if Ron's there. We just 174 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:05.600 lost him. Ron, please call back. In the meantime, we're 175 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.559 gonna take Matt in Franklin. We'ren callback at six one, seven, 176 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:12.759 nine thirty. Let's go to Matt and Franklin. Matt next 177 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:20.720 on first this hour, Nightside. Actually, hmm, can you move 178 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:25.799 Matt over up? Are you able to do that for me? Please? 179 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:29.240 Six six what Let's go to Matt and Franklin. Matt, 180 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:32.360 you are next on Nightside. Go ahead, Matt. 181 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:34.440 Is that am I in the air? 182 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:38.279 Yes? You are, go right ahead? All right, right, but 183 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:41.519 what's technical difficulties Matt and to run? Yeah. 184 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.120 One of my biggest issues of the full Doge thing, yeah, 185 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:49.960 is what they're focusing on is like next to like 186 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:53.279 peanuts in the grand scheme of things like, oh, they 187 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:57.120 spend eighty six thousand dollars on like some comic book 188 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:59.720 in Peru. Well, it's like we're thirty seven trillion dollars 189 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.919 in and it's like, that's that's your claimed the fan 190 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:03.679 that you found this. 191 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:08.879 Yeah, let me let me just ask you if you 192 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:11.919 have ever heard the phrase tis better to light one 193 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:14.879 candle than simply curse the darkness. I mean, they are 194 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:18.879 using those examples, if they're true, and I assume that 195 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.440 that's the one you just referred to is true. They're 196 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:25.720 using that as an example to basically say, here's something 197 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.840 that never should have been spent on. They're going to 198 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.799 have to deal eventually with the big topics topics, which 199 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:33.080 would be so Yeah. 200 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:37.639 I know that Congress. Congress gave a blank check to 201 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.320 these agencies and relied on the senior executives of these 202 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:44.000 agencies to spend the money. And now they're upset how 203 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:45.960 the money was spent. It's like, where was Congress all 204 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:47.600 these years when the money was being spent. 205 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.480 That's a good question, But so the question is do 206 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:53.879 you do you want? I want those to look at everything, 207 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:56.919 But what my concern is that they're looking in the 208 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:00.759 wrong place right now. They'll they've sent this email out 209 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:04.080 it's you know, just as you're focusing on an eighty 210 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:07.600 six thousand dollars comic book. After a while, all those 211 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.600 little items do run into big money. 212 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.159 Yeah, and how much of the cost for all those 213 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:18.039 employees to respond to a redundant email. It's like their 214 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.240 managers should be aware of what they're doing. Not all 215 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.679 of them have access to the computer, so they do 216 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:25.120 have to get on it. But that's the whole thing. 217 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:27.679 It's like, that's probably a fifteen million right there. Hold on, 218 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:28.159 I'll tell you that. 219 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:32.720 Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's great. You're going to call us 220 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.320 back and call the person back. I think we lost you. 221 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:38.279 Thanks Matt let We do have run back Ron apologize. 222 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.799 We've had some technical issues. 223 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:44.799 All damn not at all. I'm glad that I got 224 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:46.720 back and thank you so much for having this on. 225 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.759 As you know, I'm a part of the Trauma Critical 226 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:56.960 Care International Trauma Critical Care Team, having since nineteen ninety nine, 227 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.360 go around twenty six years now. In some of my 228 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.080 deployments had been the first on seeing at nine to 229 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.399 eleven World Trade Center working with the New York Fire Department, 230 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:16.200 Police Department, shortly thereafter Anthrax, where we went back to 231 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:19.679 New York City and mass prophylacts seventy five hundred postal 232 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:29.759 workers in seventy two hours. That's pretty efficient. To Hurricane Katrina. 233 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:36.159 Our team has also been to Guam, Haiti, Puerto Rico. 234 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.720 I can tell you when I went to Hurricane Harvey 235 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:45.879 and Houston, I hadn't even gotten deplaned from the plane 236 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.320 returning back to Logan and they were queuing me up 237 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:51.879 for the Ohio Ye team to go to Puerto Rico. 238 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:58.080 Right now, Look, no one is questioning the work that 239 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:04.159 is done by your organization, that the trauma and critical 240 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:08.840 care teams. The question is your ind of it. Your 241 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:15.240 volunteers have received an email, like every federal employee who 242 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.879 are not volunteers, what have you done last week? What 243 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:23.000 have you done last week? And look, you you worked 244 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:26.159 in your regular job because you were not activated last week. 245 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.360 You probably had when was the last time you activated? 246 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:30.200 A few a few months ago or a couple of 247 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:30.679 years ago. 248 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:32.960 When was the last time a few years ago? But 249 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:36.120 the the you know, we still we have We have 250 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:40.600 a team, a roster I call every single month, so 251 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:45.600 uh and I'm not on this month's roster, but I 252 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.440 have during the past year have been on the roster 253 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:54.240 a few times and uh, so I received this email. 254 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:59.440 It was mandated that we respond, and I got I 255 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:04.159 actually got a call from the team commander at about 256 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.759 eight o'clock in the evening. I was at the hospital 257 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:12.600 where I worked, and we talked about it and I said, well, 258 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:15.399 can I do it tomorrow and he said no, it's 259 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.799 the deadline is tonight at midnight. So I finished up 260 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:25.240 at ten pm, punched out of my usual time, and 261 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:29.759 then went back to the office and completed this by midnight. 262 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:34.600 And that included you know what my title was. I 263 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.559 had to indicate that I maintain readiness to deploy in 264 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.639 the event of a disaster of public health emergency. You 265 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:44.720 participate on the team's on call roster when available and 266 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:49.519 received no compensation. When you're on call, you answer emails 267 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:55.360 and other communications from your team commander without compensation. And 268 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:04.720 so I did respond, and then subsequently that has been 269 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:10.079 rescinded to a lower level, that is, we don't have 270 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:15.680 to provide this at the moment unless we're deployed, but 271 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:22.240 it's logistically impossible it deploys was argent without communication or 272 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:26.200 electricity or water and working twelve hour shifts and if 273 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.640 you get three hours of sleep, that's a good night. 274 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:31.359 No, I understand that. But the point I'm trying to 275 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:34.920 focus on is the name of this organization is the 276 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:39.880 Department of Government Efficiency. If they are so inefficient that 277 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:45.240 they are sending emails and demanding a response from people 278 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.640 who were volunteers, and the question of the email essentially 279 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:53.119 is tell us five things you did last week? You know, 280 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:57.759 unless you had been activated, there was no there's nothing 281 00:17:57.799 --> 00:17:58.640 for you to answer. 282 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:01.839 I mean, it'd be like, exactly, but I did any 283 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:02.720 I complied? 284 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:06.160 Well, you complied because you you're somebody who follows rules 285 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.680 and regulations. It would be if they sent emails out 286 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:14.839 to to every federal employee, Please answer this email. Were 287 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.519 you in Paris at the Eiffel Tower last week? Now 288 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.279 that might be interesting information and you certainly could could 289 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.279 accomplish answer yes or no. If that's all that that 290 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:28.759 that much wanted to do was to find out if 291 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:33.160 people had a pulse. My understanding, ron is, as you mentioned, 292 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.319 is that this has been this obligation now has fortunately 293 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.039 been put on pause. But I think it shows that 294 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.680 the those people need to be efficient themselves before they 295 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.160 start demanding efficiency from the government. 296 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:52.279 Can I can I say one thing before we closed in, 297 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.599 I was, you know, I've been thinking about this, and 298 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.599 it was somewhat insulting to receive this, to be honest 299 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:05.279 with you, but I've been thinking, you know, if if 300 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:12.680 our Congress could work as efficiently and as unified as 301 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.920 a team as as we do, when they can use 302 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:21.160 us as an example if they want, very easily. When 303 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:23.759 we deployed to nine to eleven, we had promised the 304 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:27.240 Mayor Giuliani and the fire Commissioner von Us and that 305 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:29.160 we would have our site set up by oh seven 306 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:34.119 hundred and take over care from Stuyvesant High School. We 307 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.240 beat our timeline in spite of the fact there were 308 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:38.519 no walkways. 309 00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:39.960 You know, it was. 310 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.599 Still we were still in process for the Bucket Brigade 311 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:47.160 at the time we beat it. We saw firefighter by 312 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:54.839 six ten in the morning, and and we accomplished what 313 00:19:55.319 --> 00:20:00.160 in our nation's worst disasters. 314 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:03.319 Run Yet without interrupting or with interrupting, I don't think 315 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.680 anyone is questioning the work that you folks have done, 316 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:12.519 and done it voluntarily, not not doing it to earn 317 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.759 a federal pension or anything like that. I just think 318 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:20.920 that that I'm using this as an example of where 319 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:25.279 that those people basically have to learn how to be 320 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:28.960 efficient themselves. They have to understand who they're sending these 321 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:33.559 these requests for information to. And they made a mistake, 322 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:37.400 they should they should admit they made a mistake, because 323 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:39.960 if they don't admit they made a mistake, then they 324 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:44.279 might make the mistake again. So I'm into my my 325 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:47.799 ten thirty newscast by four minutes, so I got to 326 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:50.839 let you go. Thank you, thank you for what you've done, 327 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:53.599 and thank you for giving me a heads up on this, 328 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:59.599 because again, the Trump administration will be their own worst 329 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:03.759 enemy if they do not realize that this was an 330 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:09.880 example of absolute inefficiency by an by agency that has 331 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:13.880 inefficiency the word inefficiency in its title. Thanks Ron, we'll 332 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:14.400 talk sooner. 333 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:16.240 Thanks for helping us skip see you local. 334 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:18.920 All right, take a break. Here's the news coming right 335 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.359 back on Night's side. I just think that this is important. 336 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:25.079 I hope you do as well. If you agree with me, 337 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:29.200 feel free. If you disagree with me, you can even 338 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:31.680 feel more free. Six one seven, two five, four ten 339 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:36.119 thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. I 340 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:40.480 want the Trump administration if there is. I want any 341 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:45.240 administration to eliminate fraud, waste, and abuse in government. But 342 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.880 I don't think that this outreach to members of this 343 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:52.640 this team that has done such great work over the years, 344 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:56.119 is something that they can be proud of. They should 345 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.559 be They should actually hang their heads and say we 346 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:03.000 blew it. But see what you think. Coming back on Nightside. 347 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:09.000 You're on night Side with Dan Ray on wz Boston's 348 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:09.799 news radio. 349 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:12.319 Okay, back to the phones, you go. Let me go 350 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:15.799 to Bill and Danvers. Bill you are next on Nightside, 351 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:18.160 and we'll get the mice Rich Itch on the air. 352 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:19.359 Go ahead, Bill, welcome. 353 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:22.799 Yeah, I believe. I don't know if you have the cut, 354 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.759 dam but I did see some of that cabinet meeting 355 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:27.720 that was one of the first ones the Musk was there, 356 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:32.839 and must did acknowledge that they will be making the 357 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:35.759 mistakes will be made, and they will try to be 358 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:38.119 as quick as they can to fix them. And I 359 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:40.160 think he gave an example, but I can't remember one 360 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:43.839 hundred percent, but he did acknowledge that that you know, uh, 361 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:48.200 you know, the size and scope and and and everything entailed, 362 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:49.559 they will be mistakes. 363 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:51.599 I mean, you know, I mean one of the things. 364 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:55.759 One of the things that that worries me, okay, is 365 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:00.680 in the president's speech the other night, his addressed Congress, 366 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:05.400 he listed off all of these numbers of people who 367 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:09.200 are listed on Social Security. Who are you know, listed 368 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:11.519 as being over the age of one hundred or one 369 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:13.759 hundred and fifteen or one hundred and twenty. I forget 370 00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:16.839 the specifics. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, right. 371 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:21.359 Yeah, I've read different stuff about that, to be honest 372 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:23.799 with you. And I also read that a lot of 373 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.480 the computer systems, and I'm not sure if Social Security 374 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:30.119 Administration is one of them, but they spend more up 375 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.680 keep these older systems to maintain them than if they 376 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:36.720 had upgraded the technology, which will probably be more efficient 377 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:38.000 to a degree. 378 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:41.920 And that's that's all I want of reform. That's the 379 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.359 sort of reform that I would hope everyone would support. 380 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:47.559 But what I'm saying is I've read enough which indicates 381 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:51.599 to me that the fact that there's somebody who's listed 382 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:55.240 as being one hundred and fifty years old doesn't mean 383 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:59.400 that that person exists. Now, if there's a check being 384 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:04.000 mailed to an address associated with that name, I would 385 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:06.519 think you want to find out who's where are those 386 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:09.839 checks being cashed and who's cashing those checks? Because there's 387 00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:12.720 nobody on earth who's one hundred and fifty years old? 388 00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:17.480 And I just what what I'm afraid of is that 389 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:22.319 the Trump administration will engage in this hyperbole about like that, 390 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.480 which I see as hyperbole, which is good for a SoundBite, 391 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:31.720 but people will lose confidence in their ability to actually 392 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:35.799 find the problems that are to be corrected because you know, 393 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:39.960 whoever that person is who's listened as one hundred and fifty, 394 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:42.640 I want to know the answer be pretty simple, and 395 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:44.559 I would assume that journalists would want to know the 396 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:48.720 answer too. And I'm a journalist. Is there actually a 397 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:51.720 person named Joe Smith who's listed as one hundred and fifty? 398 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.839 Where's is he being sent to check? Every month? Where 399 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.759 is that check being sent to? Who's cashing that check? 400 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:00.799 That's all pretty easy to trace. 401 00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:05.640