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<v Speaker 1>For coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 1>seven to nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Each time we've gone to break today, of course, like

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<v Speaker 2>I always do, go to social media to see if

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<v Speaker 2>there's anything that has developed throughout the show that we

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<v Speaker 2>need to talk about, you know, some breaking news, some

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<v Speaker 2>interesting news, something that you know should be discussed on

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<v Speaker 2>a show like this. And really each time I've noticed

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<v Speaker 2>more and more I guess plans to get ready for

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<v Speaker 2>this winter storm that's that's heading our way. At least

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they're expecting.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not supposed to be freezing in like ice

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<v Speaker 3>like it was a month ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think it's gonna get cold enough to

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<v Speaker 2>where it's below freezing, okay, but that could still cause

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<v Speaker 2>some issues, right right, So that's what I guess we

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<v Speaker 2>need to be prepared for. But the real issue with

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<v Speaker 2>that seemingly two to three week pain in the ass

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<v Speaker 2>that we had with the last winter storm was because

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<v Speaker 2>we just weren't consistently getting warmer weather to melt it

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<v Speaker 2>all away. But yeah, it looks like there's some I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I haven't seen any school closings just yet, but

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't shock me by the time we get out

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<v Speaker 2>of here we find out that they have either done school,

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<v Speaker 2>they've done INTI, or maybe they are going ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>canceling it because you know it would make sense and

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<v Speaker 2>for what it's worth, last time, I don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>could have got it any more correct. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they could have been more accurate when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to how they predicted what would happen in

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<v Speaker 2>early January. Because what they were anticipating every bit, even

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<v Speaker 2>down to like the exact amount of snow we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to get, I think they were spot on. So

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<v Speaker 2>given the recency, I guess I'm gonna trust them that

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be potentially sloppy. And again I'm usually

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<v Speaker 2>light snow and winter weather because I'm weird like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we got enough in January to where if we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get and the warm weather got here sooner rather

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<v Speaker 2>than later and stayed, I'd be very very happy. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of very very happy, I was very very happy last

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<v Speaker 2>night because the result in the Super Bowl was exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what I wanted, a Chief's loss, and I got not

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<v Speaker 2>only that, I got.

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<v Speaker 5>Them blown out.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, the game was nowhere near as close as

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<v Speaker 2>the final score. They were down forty to six at

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<v Speaker 2>one point, and it was really just exactly what you

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<v Speaker 2>want as someone like myself who is a full fledged

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<v Speaker 2>hater of the Chiefs in every way I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be. I feel like it's bad energy just to

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<v Speaker 2>hate them because they're great. But as soon as that

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<v Speaker 2>thing kicked off and they started, you know, getting killed,

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty early they were in trouble, and I

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<v Speaker 2>loved it. You'd throw in the fact that Mahomes was

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<v Speaker 2>brutal and his stat line actually makes it look like

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<v Speaker 2>he played better than he actually did. You had Travis

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<v Speaker 2>Kelce crying after the game, give me those tears.

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<v Speaker 5>Loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor's Jaylor Swift got booed, and I felt awful for

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoying that too. So as a full fledged hater,

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<v Speaker 2>we got. We got a full course meal, if you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. Absolute, and I'm happy. Besides, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy for the Eagles more so, I guess Jalen

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<v Speaker 2>hurts than anything, just because I think that guy has

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<v Speaker 2>been I mean, he's been phenomenal in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>Not to say that he's gotten.

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<v Speaker 2>Better stats or that he's a more talented player than

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<v Speaker 2>other guys who you know that are really really young

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<v Speaker 2>and talented, right, Like, he's not Joe Burrow, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson, he's not Pat Mahomes, he's not Josh Allen,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's but he's really good and he wins. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like when you say this out loud

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<v Speaker 2>to people, if they didn't already know this, they'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>first instinct is to question you and say that can

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<v Speaker 2>be right. But it's right, it's true, and it's this.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts has as many playoff wins, has as many

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl appearances, and has as many Super Bowl wins

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<v Speaker 2>and his first four years a starter that Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>had in his first four years as a starter. And

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<v Speaker 2>just like Mahomes, doesn't look to he's slowing down anytime soon,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least I don't think he does. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can say the same thing for Jalen Hurts. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just get here one time off of a flute

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<v Speaker 2>run in the playoffs. He's been good for years now.

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<v Speaker 2>They added Barkley and that clearly was a big, big factor.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the leading rusher in the NFL this year,

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<v Speaker 2>first time a leading rusher in the NFL, was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of a Super Bowl winning team since Terrell Davis

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety eight. So yes, the defense was really

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest factor in last night's beat down.

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<v Speaker 5>Vic Fangio. Hell of a job.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the organization that the Eagles have from top

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<v Speaker 2>to bottom is impressive. I mean, they win and Howie

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<v Speaker 2>Roseman is that his name, that's the GM right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they's been nailing draft picks the last four years. They

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<v Speaker 2>got a good formula going.

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<v Speaker 5>Fangio with his front four.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just all everywhere Fangio goes, it just seems like

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna have a killer defensive line. They didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>have the blitz yesterday. They were just getting to Patrick

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<v Speaker 3>Mahomes with four people, I mean, and Mahomes looked terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think Wheels flustered.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the defense was clearly a big factor in that,

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<v Speaker 2>but also he just was rattled. And a guy that's

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<v Speaker 2>known for being mister cool it could always get it

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<v Speaker 2>done and clutch and doesn't get too too overwhelmed by

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<v Speaker 2>the big moment. I mean he throughout the entire game,

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<v Speaker 2>he never was comfortable. And again, I think more than anything,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because that defense was so elite and they really

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<v Speaker 2>were all year. So the Eagles, again, they've got a

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<v Speaker 2>good formula working. They've been drafting really well, as Austin mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>and they got the pieces to I mean, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>not only the pieces to win, like they're winning right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but they could keep this thing going.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, do you feel for a Super Bowl? I know

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<v Speaker 3>you're extreme haterism of the Chiefs, Like do you feel

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<v Speaker 3>at all like underwhelmed by like the game? And just

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<v Speaker 3>let's just say the last week, I feel like this

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<v Speaker 3>was a very underwhelming super Bowl. It's been a fun season.

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<v Speaker 3>You've had stories everywhere, of course with Jadeen Daniels, hell

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be a Homer here, the comeback of Sam Darnold

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<v Speaker 3>and how well he did, the fall of the forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine ers, how that's been going on, and it just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of ends up like that. I Mean, there wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>a lot even in radio row last week leading up

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<v Speaker 3>to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 5>There wasn't like that many stories.

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<v Speaker 3>There was nothing like, oh, this guy needs to get

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<v Speaker 3>a super Bowl to cement his legacy. The three peete

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<v Speaker 3>like okay, I guess, but even losing that, like did

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<v Speaker 3>nothing for Mahomes or went against Andy Reid or anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that. The biggest thing that came out of the

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<v Speaker 3>radio row last week was was Miles was Miles was

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<v Speaker 3>Miles Garrett that wow? And that's and Jameis Winston having

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<v Speaker 3>fun and just like begging for a job every person

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<v Speaker 3>that he talked to Like. Other than that, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like it was just.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of like, meth, do you want me to take

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<v Speaker 5>it even further? Yeah, I can go deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>I think exactly what you. I agree with everything you said.

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't feel as underwhell because the overall result

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<v Speaker 2>of the Chiefs getting blown out was so satisfying that

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, hey, I'll take it. That was pretty good. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what I was going to say taking it a step

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<v Speaker 2>further is I think not just the NFL Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>lead up in the game itself was kind of a dud.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the NFL didn't have a good season overall.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean interesting, I mean, I think, I mean this

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<v Speaker 2>was said last night by Tommy Smokes, who is a

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<v Speaker 2>barstool blogger, and he's getting crushed for it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>totally read it and I agreed. Awful game to end

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<v Speaker 2>what was a pretty bad season of football. Has to

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<v Speaker 2>be the worst season in the NFL in a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>no real juice, And I agree. But what happens is

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<v Speaker 2>people think that means like that someone is claiming the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL is in trouble. The NFL is never going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in trouble. People are going to always watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing that they could do to where they would

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<v Speaker 2>be in trouble as far as like losing money or

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<v Speaker 2>declining in you know. I mean, they're dominant, They're always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be. But I think that I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like this season had much life to.

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<v Speaker 5>It, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you had the Chiefs continue to be really good,

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<v Speaker 2>and even though people are tired of the Chiefs, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this year they were as good as they were,

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<v Speaker 2>as good as you can be other than, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going undefeated. But like they didn't look great

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<v Speaker 2>doing it, right, they weren't. I mean, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the numbers on the Chiefs this year, like Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty blah, which that's okay, but everywhere else, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bills were a big story.

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<v Speaker 5>And dare I say, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know how to say this without

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like I'm going to get attacked. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>have a guy like Lamar who is the best player

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<v Speaker 2>in the league and is exceeding what he's done already

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<v Speaker 2>in two seasons that resulted in him being the MVP winner,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he's just not a factor at all in

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<v Speaker 2>your postseason. Again, it's not good for the NFL. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that makes sense. Like, I mean another team who.

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<v Speaker 5>Was a great story, great story.

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<v Speaker 3>The Lions. Yeah, they got humbled. I mean that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of I think what kind of ran out of gas

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<v Speaker 3>after in there. I mean they had like seventeen players

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<v Speaker 3>out on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'll say this, in college basketball, we love Cinderella

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<v Speaker 2>until we wake up the next morning and realize she

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<v Speaker 2>was like a five right right, like the first this

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<v Speaker 2>is I mean, hear me out here.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I had a little too much last night.

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<v Speaker 2>You love to root for Sister Jean and the Cinderellas

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<v Speaker 2>because it's what makes college basketball great, those kind of upsets,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's so intoxicating when they win one and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>how the hell that happened?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Peter's knocked off Kentucky And then it's like you're

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<v Speaker 2>on a bender because they messed around in one in

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<v Speaker 2>the second round and made it to the sweet sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh, this is what makes college basketball great.

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<v Speaker 2>You got teams who nobody ever would give a chance,

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<v Speaker 2>and they get here to the big dance and they

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<v Speaker 2>dance on and then like you get to the sweet

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen lead up and it's waking up the next morning

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<v Speaker 2>and realizing, damn, I was really drunk.

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<v Speaker 5>This is this is lame. I don't call you ever.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want yeah, you get her out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to see you know that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>team Loyola Chicago Saint Peter's in the sweet sixteen because

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<v Speaker 2>we don't really care about them. We just get intoxicated

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<v Speaker 2>by the first weekend at the party when everybody's there

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<v Speaker 2>and man, what do you know, This nobody team is

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<v Speaker 5>That's what you know. Upsets are healthy for sports.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I mean by that is it keeps everybody

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<v Speaker 2>tournament playoffs, the later you get there and the more

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<v Speaker 2>upsets that have happened along the way, you're gonna feel

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<v Speaker 2>less fulfilled because you feel like it's whatever right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The teams that played in the Super Bowl, the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>and the Chiefs, they were absolutely two of the best teams.

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<v Speaker 5>But everybody's tired of the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why they were kind of not They weren't underrated,

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't underappreciated, I don't think, but it just they

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe because they did win early and they did. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>these two teams win a lot of games, clearly one

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<v Speaker 2>when it mattered and got all the way to the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl. But I think they both were similar for

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<v Speaker 2>a good stretch of the season. When they would win,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't look impressive, and they wouldn't win by a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot against teams that you knew stunk like. The

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles barely got by the Bears, who were a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think the NFL is in trouble. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>as long as I live, I'm sure, But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's like some crazy hot take to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't as it wasn't as fun of a ride as

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we're used to it. Again, I think some of

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<v Speaker 2>those factors I just laid out are a reason for that. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you've got good storylines and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>good teams that I mean, the Lions being good is weird, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they just kind of fell and they fell

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, they got upset or they got beat

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, so again, I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think not only was the super Bowl lead up

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of man, I think the whole season kind

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to Jailen hurts really quickly because I just

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<v Speaker 2>That probably irritates some people, And I understand why is

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<v Speaker 2>this delusion that certain athletes have that they're being doubted,

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<v Speaker 2>that they've got haters, that everybody's against us, us against

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<v Speaker 5>Like Kirby Smart.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember who it was, but he did a

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal job when Georgia went back to back national championships

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<v Speaker 2>because his team truly believed that people thought they weren't good,

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<v Speaker 2>when all anybody did was talk about how it's insanely unfair,

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<v Speaker 2>how loaded they are. And you had a guy after

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<v Speaker 2>the game as he's putting on the celebratory cap that

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<v Speaker 2>they make for Georgia winning the national championship, and the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing he says to the camera was they say

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to go seven and five. You won't

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<v Speaker 2>find a soul on this earth that thought Georgia football

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<v Speaker 2>that year, coming off a national champampionship, was gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>seven to five. So again, it's ridiculous. But whatever way

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<v Speaker 2>you can, you can get an edge, right, whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>got to do to keep your players motivated, and it

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<v Speaker 2>gets harder to do the better that you are so

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of silly things out there that these

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<v Speaker 2>guys believe in order to keep them always having that edge,

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<v Speaker 2>that chip on the shoulder. One to prove people wrong

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<v Speaker 2>to where they don't feel too comfortable is if they've

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<v Speaker 2>already like even even if they've already proven that they

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<v Speaker 2>a way mentally to get to a spot where they

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they got to really deliver because nobody's believing

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<v Speaker 2>in them. I mean, Michael Jordan was great at that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's I think what quite literally make Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>what he was is he was the ultimate competitor. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he would he would play out stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>the media that wasn't true that he used to get

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<v Speaker 2>himself motivated, and yet he would talk about it and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he did it so he knew that the writers

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<v Speaker 2>would put it out there and then it would like

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<v Speaker 2>be him speaking it into existence that he does have haters.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really interesting to see that in the Last

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<v Speaker 2>Ride documentary, how Jordan was able to do that. So

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm getting at is it's nonsense a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 2>but Jalen Hurts is somebody that can actually say that

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<v Speaker 2>he can tell you that he's got a level of

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<v Speaker 2>satisfaction after winning his first Super Bowl last night, because

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<v Speaker 2>throughout his entire journey, he's not some rags the richest story,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has absolutely been doubted at every turn. At

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama as a starting quarterback, he was good. They were winning,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, he wasn't a flashy guy. At that point.

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<v Speaker 2>It was still Nick Saban winning because he could get

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<v Speaker 2>any player he wanted. He had a phenomenal defense, and

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't really need his quarterback to do a whole lot. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>then the game changed a little bit and he brought

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<v Speaker 2>into a tugovaloa. Jalen Hurts got bench to the National

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<v Speaker 2>Championship game, and I mean, at that point, let's go,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go back in time. Hard to do but that

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<v Speaker 2>and that was many years ago, but Jalen Hurts getting

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<v Speaker 2>benched Alabama. Would anybody have been shocked if I told

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<v Speaker 2>you that night that that would be what you think

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<v Speaker 2>of when you think of him in twenty years, a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that was good quarterback. Maybe he did end up

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<v Speaker 2>transferring elsewhere and he was fine, but like, it's crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>unheard of for a guy who is the starting quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>who has already i think, taken his team to a

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<v Speaker 2>national championship before that. Getting binged in the national championship game,

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<v Speaker 2>that's unheard of. Well Saban did it. And what even

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<v Speaker 2>became more unheard of is to see how well Jalen

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<v Speaker 2>Hurts handled that with maturity. The next year, he was

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<v Speaker 2>co quarterback, but he didn't start. He got binged, He

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<v Speaker 2>got left behind for Tuatugabaloa.

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<v Speaker 5>So what does he do?

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<v Speaker 2>Goes to Oklahoma, puts up insane numbers, Heisman candidate, takes

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma to the playoff and just when you thought maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that was the moment where he has proven that he's

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<v Speaker 2>a really good quarterback regardless of the situation. No, everybody said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a product of Lincoln Riley. Look at what

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<v Speaker 2>Baker did, look at what Kyler did. They just said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's any quarterback can go do that for him. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not that great. He got some draft love, but nobody

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<v Speaker 2>thought he'd be drafted in the second round, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>he did.

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<v Speaker 5>He got drafted in the second round by the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 2>They hated the pick. They lost their mind on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>At every turn, this guy's been able to actually say

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<v Speaker 2>he was doubted and that people didn't think he was

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<v Speaker 2>good enough, and at every chance he's been given since

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<v Speaker 2>those things have happened, he has proven people wrong. He

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<v Speaker 2>already did it just by getting to the super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>and being a good quarterback already, but to win it

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<v Speaker 2>this year and to now be able to say that

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<v Speaker 2>again four years as a full time starter, he has

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<v Speaker 2>the same exact super Bowl ring. He has the same

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<v Speaker 2>amount of super Bowl appearances, super Bowl wins, and playoff

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<v Speaker 2>wins as Mahomes did in his first four years. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty impressive and I don't think he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be slowing down anytime soon. So that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>favorite My favorite things about sports still is that like

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<v Speaker 2>just don't know, it's motive. It motivates me somebody who

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<v Speaker 5>And rare can you rarely can you even be.

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<v Speaker 2>In the NFL at that level, really at that position

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<v Speaker 2>and be able to claim there are genuine doubters of you. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there were, there's no doubt about it, and he's been

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<v Speaker 2>to see he's a good leader and he's a good

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<v Speaker 2>player too. That's pretty obvious, right quick break. We'll come

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<v Speaker 2>back on the other side. A lot more to get

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<v Speaker 5>Keep it lock right here. It's coffee and company. Feel

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety now back to coffee and Company. Fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 2>Day, thank you, Austin, I just realized what you did there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, Thank you appreciate that. So, like always on Mondays,

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<v Speaker 2>there's lots of reaction from the weekend, and sometimes we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have enough time or at least I don't balance

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<v Speaker 2>much as we need to. But we'll probably get to tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a tom sensitive thing. Rick Patino, giving a

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<v Speaker 2>message via video to the two thousand and five Final

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<v Speaker 2>four team at the UM Center on Saturday, was I mean, look.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's it's probably part of the healing process.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the whole Rick stuff, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>can get into it tomorrow, because it's certainly a little complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know fans maybe if they didn't even want

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<v Speaker 2>to feel any way, seeing Rick talk about that team

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<v Speaker 2>and hearing him talk about Louisville fans, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure some of you probably say the hell with him,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's fine. Everybody can do whatever you want, feel

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<v Speaker 2>however you want to feel. But I know for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he coached here longer than anybody throughout my life,

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<v Speaker 2>and clearly the good times that I had that I

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<v Speaker 2>remember as a Louisville basketball fan, nearly all of them

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<v Speaker 2>were with him. So I just think it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>guy who was a big factor in that success. But

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<v Speaker 2>just now joining us. Pat Kelsey did talk earlier today

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<v Speaker 2>and on the AEC teleconference, saying that still no update

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<v Speaker 2>on Chucky. It's still a day to day, game time

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<v Speaker 2>decision type situation. With James Scott, he had had to

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<v Speaker 2>is good news. But let's to the phone lines foot two.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to give us a call, we'll go

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<v Speaker 2>to Jerry. Jerry, what's happening, Hey, Nick?

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<v Speaker 4>About the football game last night, I echo your comments.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it, and I loved it even more because

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, here's a real factor on there, Doug.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and and the fumble. I loved it all man.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so you know that, Uh, the fact that

421
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<v Speaker 4>he's in the FC. I'm a Lamar guy. I'm a

422
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<v Speaker 4>Ravens fan because of Lamar, et cetera. So I love

423
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<v Speaker 4>that being a Card fan.

424
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<v Speaker 2>I got.

425
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<v Speaker 4>I work with a lot of IU fans and so

426
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<v Speaker 4>it's it's interesting. I think they want well, that's that's

427
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<v Speaker 4>where That's where I'm going. So you know, I you fans.

428
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<v Speaker 4>I think they they they harbor a little animosity because

429
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<v Speaker 4>we won it in thirteen and they thought they had

430
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<v Speaker 4>the team to win it, but Tom Crean couldn't solve

431
00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:04.519
<v Speaker 4>the Syracuse two three zone and the rest is history.

432
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<v Speaker 4>So I think that was a spur in their butt.

433
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<v Speaker 4>But then then they look at Kelsey. Now he's young,

434
00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.960
<v Speaker 4>he's energetic, he's knocking it out of the park, and

435
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<v Speaker 4>they I think they've got a real hard case of

436
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<v Speaker 4>coaches envy, even though I don't think they take Kentucky okay.

437
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<v Speaker 4>But but here's where I'm going as a fan, as

438
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<v Speaker 4>a basketball fan. I love the banter. I love the

439
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<v Speaker 4>the the suspense, I love the anticipation, and I love

440
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<v Speaker 4>the domino effect of this coaching search at IU Okay.

441
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<v Speaker 4>I can't read enough about it. A buddy of mine

442
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<v Speaker 4>sent me an article today that you need to look up.

443
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<v Speaker 4>It's by Greg Doyle from The Indie Star, and he

444
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<v Speaker 4>and and in the art. It's a very good article,

445
00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:51.960
<v Speaker 4>and he touts a guy and I'll tell you who

446
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<v Speaker 4>it is in a second, but he takes a swing

447
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<v Speaker 4>at four coaches. Three not really a big surprise, Bruce Pearl,

448
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<v Speaker 4>NATO's Chris Beard. He takes a swing at all of

449
00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:05.720
<v Speaker 4>them for their misdeeds throughout, and he says, you know,

450
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<v Speaker 4>I used not hiring Chris Beard, blah blah blah and

451
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<v Speaker 4>all this stuff. But the one he took a swing

452
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<v Speaker 4>at that shocked me was Scott Drew. And evidently they

453
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<v Speaker 4>have a history. Greg Dole and Scott Drew over a

454
00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:21.960
<v Speaker 4>guy named Hannah para, I know all about it, okay,

455
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<v Speaker 4>So in that I didn't realize this, or if I did,

456
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<v Speaker 4>I'd forgotten about it. In that situation, they got him

457
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<v Speaker 4>over here, they got him settled, they got him in school,

458
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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. But once he got here, he wanted

459
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<v Speaker 4>to make up his own mind and where he went

460
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<v Speaker 4>to college. And they told him they was going to

461
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<v Speaker 4>have him deported.

462
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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, were you.

463
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<v Speaker 4>Aware of that?

464
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<v Speaker 2>So let me tell you this, Jerry. This is coming

465
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<v Speaker 2>full circle, my man, because do you remember there was

466
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<v Speaker 2>a coach that I was really, really really high on

467
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<v Speaker 2>that Louisville didn't hire, and so far it looks like

468
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<v Speaker 2>I was wrong, Jerome Tang. So you remember when people

469
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<v Speaker 2>would say that Jerome Tang, there's just something connected to him,

470
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<v Speaker 2>There's something attached to him, something that's going to come

471
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<v Speaker 2>up on the background.

472
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<v Speaker 5>That was it?

473
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<v Speaker 2>There was that he was He was accused of being

474
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<v Speaker 2>the coach for Drew. That was I guess making those

475
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<v Speaker 2>kind of threats about having him deported. He defended himself

476
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<v Speaker 2>and I you know, he claims that there's there's no

477
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<v Speaker 2>scenario anybody would ever be able to accurately put him

478
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<v Speaker 2>involved in any of that kind of stuff. But yes,

479
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<v Speaker 2>i'd heard that that was a big deal at the time,

480
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<v Speaker 2>that this young man who came over then decided he

481
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<v Speaker 2>may want to visit some other schools, and they threatened

482
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<v Speaker 2>to deport him if if if he if he didn't.

483
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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know which coach it was, or really

484
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<v Speaker 2>how true any of it actually is, but I do

485
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<v Speaker 2>remember that story, and I didn't want to go there

486
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<v Speaker 2>last year with Tang because I just didn't want to

487
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<v Speaker 2>put it out there and and you know, who knows

488
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<v Speaker 2>if people would think it's real, But that was that's

489
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<v Speaker 2>what people were insinuating that would come up on Jerome

490
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<v Speaker 2>Tank's background, that he was the assistant for Drew that

491
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<v Speaker 2>did that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's interesting that both Kentucky and Louisville took a

493
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<v Speaker 4>swing at him. But this guy, I mean, Greg Doyle,

494
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<v Speaker 4>you know, he's been he's been at the Indie Star

495
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<v Speaker 4>for a long time. And I don't know anything about

496
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<v Speaker 4>the guy other that he reports on IU a lot.

497
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<v Speaker 4>But but he takes a hard swing and and they

498
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<v Speaker 4>got into it so hard. In the article, he says

499
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<v Speaker 4>he hung up on Scott Drew, like, you know, like

500
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<v Speaker 4>he was done with him at that point. But the

501
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<v Speaker 4>guy that he coups is sort of a shocker to

502
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<v Speaker 4>me and a little bit he's hot right now is

503
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<v Speaker 4>Buzz Williams. And I like Buzz Williams more as a

504
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<v Speaker 4>more I read about him as a person. I don't

505
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<v Speaker 4>think he's the guy for that job, would want that job,

506
00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:36.079
<v Speaker 4>you know. And and I think Buzz Williams is a

507
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:39.319
<v Speaker 4>good coach, but I don't think he I don't think

508
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.039
<v Speaker 4>he is what they want, you know. I don't know

509
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<v Speaker 4>where they're going, but it's gonna like again, the the

510
00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:47.799
<v Speaker 4>Domino effect. If they grab a big guy, it's gonna

511
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<v Speaker 4>be so interesting to see who lands there. Because I

512
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<v Speaker 4>don't know that it's gonna I think it's gonna end

513
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<v Speaker 4>up like Louisville, Kentucky. And I may may my words here.

514
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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they're gonna get one of the big

515
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<v Speaker 4>fish that they want. I think they're gonna have to

516
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<v Speaker 4>say for for uh, you know, someone else and and

517
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<v Speaker 4>see what happens. But but it's a hell of an article.

518
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<v Speaker 4>You got to reach check it out. Pure got a

519
00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:11.000
<v Speaker 4>picture of Buzz Williams. I thought, I thought some of

520
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<v Speaker 4>the listeners that are I you fans might want to

521
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:14.960
<v Speaker 4>check it out. You know, it's it's really a good read.

522
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<v Speaker 5>I'll check it out like that.

523
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<v Speaker 2>Man.

524
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<v Speaker 5>Thanks, Jerry, appreciate the call man. Yeah, the uh.

525
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<v Speaker 2>The Indiana job is a great job, and I think

526
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<v Speaker 2>they have missed on the right hire.

527
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 5>And we talked about this last week.

528
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not an Indiana fan by any means, but they

529
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<v Speaker 2>the all they gotta do, and again easier said than done,

530
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<v Speaker 2>is find a really good coach, and I don't mean

531
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<v Speaker 2>the next John Wooden, but somebody that can thrive there

532
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and really take their formula that has worked elsewhere and

533
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:46.640
<v Speaker 2>implemented at Indiana with much better resources, right if you

534
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<v Speaker 2>you know again, I mean they're not taking our coaches

535
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<v Speaker 2>around here, and and they they certainly wouldn't leave for Indiana.

536
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<v Speaker 2>But my point is Pope was successful enough at Utah

537
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<v Speaker 2>Valley and at b YU. He had something going same

538
00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 2>thing with with Kelsey at Charleston and at Winthrop. And

539
00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:06.599
<v Speaker 2>in this new world, you can you can make that

540
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:10.160
<v Speaker 2>jumped and bring what you did that worked from the

541
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.079
<v Speaker 2>lower level to the higher level. I mean, there's no

542
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>guarantee that it works flawlessly, but I think because of

543
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:20.799
<v Speaker 2>nil meaning you can use money and you can make

544
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<v Speaker 2>up whatever issues you may have in the recruiting area.

545
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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you're not somebody that's a larger than

546
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:28.640
<v Speaker 2>life personality that can't go to a guy's home and

547
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>sell him on all your final four trips because you

548
00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:32.799
<v Speaker 2>haven't been there, you know what you can do to

549
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>make up for that. Drop the bag, right, I mean,

550
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:38.559
<v Speaker 2>that's going to make an impact. And with players, you're

551
00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 2>not stuck with guys for years because they can't leave.

552
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:43.400
<v Speaker 5>People can leave in any moment.

553
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>You can get rid of dudes and go get guys

554
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<v Speaker 2>in the portal, really good players, you know, if you're

555
00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:50.599
<v Speaker 2>a good recruiter and you have good resources. So Indiana's

556
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>gotten it wrong so often. The only time they did

557
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.720
<v Speaker 2>get it right, they fired a guy for something that

558
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:59.839
<v Speaker 2>is so silly, and that's the Kelvin Sampson text message stuff.

559
00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>So I think they I think Indiana can swing for

560
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.960
<v Speaker 2>a guy like a Bruce Pearl or a Chris Beard,

561
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<v Speaker 2>and if they don't do it because of other issues,

562
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 2>then like then they don't really want to win that

563
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:13.039
<v Speaker 2>bad honestly.

564
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 5>But if they don't get those guys because.

565
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.200
<v Speaker 2>They don't want them or because they just get turned down,

566
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Indiana is the kind of program that they can go

567
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.759
<v Speaker 2>get a coach that is in the similar This is

568
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:25.880
<v Speaker 2>in a similar spot as as Kelsey and Pope Word

569
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:29.039
<v Speaker 2>where they've proven their good. It's just they haven't gotten

570
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity at this level. And I don't think guys

571
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.119
<v Speaker 2>would have been able to get the same opportunity in

572
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 2>this current era of college basketball, because again, things that

573
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.359
<v Speaker 2>used to really hurt you as far as being able

574
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>to succeed, like a Patino did it a Louisville or

575
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 2>a Caliperri did it to Kentucky or a Bill selp

576
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.440
<v Speaker 2>that at Kansas. You can make up for that with

577
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the new world that we have here with again money

578
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.839
<v Speaker 2>and free agency with the portal. But thank you for

579
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 2>the call, Jerry. I appreciate it. So Austin played the

580
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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame song there and I talked about it

581
00:26:59.200 --> 00:26:59.519
<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

582
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<v Speaker 5>Last week.

583
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<v Speaker 2>I was inducted into my high school Hall of Fame

584
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:05.119
<v Speaker 2>over the weekend. North Bullet High School is where I went.

585
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I graduated nineteen years ago and I found out I

586
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>guess in like October that I was going to be

587
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>part of this class. And I don't want to get

588
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 2>trust me, I'm not going to talk about it for

589
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes with you guys. But I don't think there's

590
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>something that I could individually be honored with that meant

591
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.400
<v Speaker 2>more to me than that, And I don't think I

592
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>would have told you that ahead of time. But that's

593
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 2>just kind of how it played out, because I mean,

594
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you want to grow up and be successful in life

595
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>and make your parents proud, make your community proud, and

596
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>you know you want to.

597
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:38.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean, people I think.

598
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Want to be successful and have good lives and do

599
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.400
<v Speaker 2>right by people. And I've been fortunate enough to where

600
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've got a dream job, like I

601
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:50.160
<v Speaker 2>have a phenomenal career that doesn't seem like work. I mean,

602
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm able to say that. There are many times throughout

603
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:54.839
<v Speaker 2>my week where I just think, is real?

604
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:55.640
<v Speaker 5>Do I get to do this?

605
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>So I'm very fortunate as it is, and I try

606
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<v Speaker 2>not to ever take that for granted because it could

607
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 2>be gone at any moment, right, So I'm really humble,

608
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>but you know, lucky is the way I view it.

609
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>But to see that my peers in my community where

610
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I grew up, that's such a part of me and

611
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:18.799
<v Speaker 2>my story for you know, forever it was really really

612
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:20.880
<v Speaker 2>really special. It still doesn't kind of seem real how

613
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Saturday went. But where I grew up in Northern Bullet County,

614
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.319
<v Speaker 2>my parents went to school where I went to school,

615
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 2>but it was brand new at the time. So my dad,

616
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>he graduated at North Bullet in nineteen seventy nine. The

617
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>first year the school existed, I believe was in nineteen

618
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>seventy seven, so it's a brand new school.

619
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<v Speaker 5>And my dad.

620
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Played all three sports for the first couple of years

621
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.599
<v Speaker 2>and then really just focused on basketball, and he was

622
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 2>the school's first first ever All State honoree in basketball

623
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:54.599
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy nine. He won the first district championship

624
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:58.480
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy nine. My mother, she was homecoming queen

625
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:00.799
<v Speaker 2>at the school in nineteen eighty, so, like it just

626
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of felt like it was.

627
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:02.240
<v Speaker 5>A part of me.

628
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>And I never, like my parents never told me about

629
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.640
<v Speaker 2>their days in high school, and my dad never told

630
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>me about how good he was as a basketball player,

631
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<v Speaker 2>and if he would have, it would have been cool.

632
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.519
<v Speaker 2>But like to hear people that I grew up around

633
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 2>their parents, who knew of my parents, or went to

634
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 2>school with my parents, or just somebody that i'd see

635
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>in my community that knew I was Mark and Patty's son,

636
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>to hear them talk about my parents and their accomplishments,

637
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>and just that they made an that they left an

638
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>impression that made me so proud to be their son.

639
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 2>And without any real moment of like, Okay, I want

640
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>to I want to do this and make them proud,

641
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 2>I just I became obsessed with wanting to play basketball

642
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:42.279
<v Speaker 2>at the high school that I was going to go to,

643
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and I wanted it so bad it just kind of

644
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 2>felt like it was what I was supposed to do.

645
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>My mom would take me to games whenever I was

646
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 2>a kid, and the coach at the time was a

647
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>family friend of my mom's, so you know, we got

648
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 2>to sit like behind the bench. And I remember watching

649
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>high school games when I was in like fifth sixth grade,

650
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 2>and this first time I went to a game when

651
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>they had the band playing in warm ups and the

652
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>coach wore a suit and his name was Larry Waldrigs

653
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 2>and he looked like a million bucks. I said this

654
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>in my speech on Saturday. He looked like he coached

655
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.759
<v Speaker 2>the knicks of the Lakers like he and I just remember, like, man,

656
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.119
<v Speaker 2>this is cool. I want to do this, and I

657
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.359
<v Speaker 2>was already obsessed with basketball at the time, so it

658
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>just consumed me. It was it was a huge part

659
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>of it was really my childhood and my teenage years

660
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 2>were basketball, basketball, basketball, and I was able to, you know,

661
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>have a pretty good career, and I had a lot

662
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:31.359
<v Speaker 2>of great memories. But to be able to win a

663
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>district championship just like my dad did, and be the

664
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<v Speaker 2>first father son duo to ever even play there, and

665
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>of course also both be able to be a part

666
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.759
<v Speaker 2>of district championship teams. As corny as it sounds like that,

667
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:46.400
<v Speaker 2>that meant so much to me my whole life. So

668
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:51.119
<v Speaker 2>then to to get honored and you know, have that

669
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 2>moment Saturday, it was just so special. And I don't

670
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like there's anything that that that could

671
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>mean more to me as far as just a group,

672
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:05.559
<v Speaker 2>meaning my high school's alumni association choosing to honor me

673
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>and really be about my story, meaning my family, and

674
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>how like, you know, we're kind of we kind of

675
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>feel like we're the first family of the program, just

676
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 2>because Dad was there when it started and when we

677
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 2>won districts when I was a senior, it was we

678
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>snapped the longest streak the programs ever had without a

679
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>district championship. So again Corny reliving the high school days.

680
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>But I do just want to think, and I met

681
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 2>so many people who say they listen to the show,

682
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 2>that that that I didn't know listen to the show.

683
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And I met people that I wasn't that I'd never

684
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 2>met before, but people who knew my parents and stuff,

685
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and it was just such a such a special weekend.

686
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I remember, not long after I found

687
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.119
<v Speaker 2>out that I was going to be going to the

688
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame, I started going to North bull of

689
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>basketball games because one of my teammates, Jesse Curry, he's

690
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>now the coach there and he's doing a great job.

691
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:54.400
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, it's fun to watch a guy I

692
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:56.799
<v Speaker 2>played with coaching this team and they're having success. But

693
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I would I took Moose my son, and you know,

694
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 2>he he loved he got to go out on the

695
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 2>court at halftime and shoot with some of the other kids,

696
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and I could just kind of see him looking around

697
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 2>at the gym, kind of taking it all in, had

698
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the ball on his hip and like I remember almost

699
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, falling to my knees the first time I

700
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>just saw him like kind of looking around thinking it

701
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>was cool like I did, and it was. It was

702
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>it was special. And then we take my daughter to

703
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>school every day and then I take Moose to daycare

704
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's right by the high school. And you know,

705
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>he asked me at least a couple times a week, Daddy,

706
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 2>when are we going to go watch the Eagles play again?

707
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.079
<v Speaker 5>And it just hits me, like in my it just.

708
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 2>It's it's I don't know, it's a feeling that I

709
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>never knew existed until it happened. And to have him

710
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:44.839
<v Speaker 2>there on Saturday and hearing me talk about his grandfather

711
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>and and and whatnot, it was just a really special moment.

712
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>And I'm so appreciative that they chose to include me,

713
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and I mean it, it was awesome. So thanks to everybody. Yeah,

714
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.440
<v Speaker 2>and thanks for you all listening to let me share that,

715
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>because it's an honor. All Right, we got to run

716
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 2>last break. We'll come back and wrap it up on

717
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the other side.

718
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on

719
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine.

720
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Day Fantasia, right, yes, oh yeah, was this her biggest song?

721
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 2>I have to think so, man, I don't know why,

722
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure it wasn't the intention when this song

723
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>was written and recorded.

724
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 5>But this is a low key The Fellas will listen

725
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 5>to it.

726
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>It's a hood classic together and like there's just a

727
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 2>there's just an understanding. There's no shame if you sing

728
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>at the top of your lungs like a woman, because

729
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:35.319
<v Speaker 2>this song it just it just hits.

730
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 5>It's that melody.

731
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.519
<v Speaker 3>It's that early two thousands, like mid two thousands sort

732
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 3>of like this is when like MTV was like in

733
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.359
<v Speaker 3>full swing in the two thousands. Only morning as soon

734
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.720
<v Speaker 3>as you woke up, you were finding this Mario baby bash.

735
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 5>Oh dude, Mario yeah, so o my goodness.

736
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 2>That was like a that was like a brief version

737
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 2>of a brief stretch within the R and B era

738
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>that was just different than the rest of it, you

739
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like I can't I can't really

740
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 2>put what made it different, but it was different.

741
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:10.360
<v Speaker 5>Good stuff and b two k those guys I have

742
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.639
<v Speaker 5>it said that, Oh my gosh, it's good stuff.

743
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Man, little pretty pretty Ricky, pretty ricky. We're going a

744
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 2>horny bab They were horned up. The Fellows were always

745
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>on the hot line exactly I've that it was a

746
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>little risquee very much.

747
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:27.079
<v Speaker 5>We got to run in a second. What did you

748
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 5>think of the halftime show?

749
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:31.400
<v Speaker 3>I actually kind of liked it. I've always liked Kendrick Lamar.

750
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm I guess I'll be old man yells at clouds.

751
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 3>I wish you would have played a lot more older stuff,

752
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 3>But I get why I played the new stuff. But

753
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 3>I actually liked that. I thought he put on a

754
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.519
<v Speaker 3>good show. Wasn't it terrible? Like everyone else said?

755
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 2>It was whatever to me? But I didn't go in

756
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 2>thinking he needed to perform for me. I mean, like,

757
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the thing that's really irritated me is

758
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 2>that that that you can you can say that you

759
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>know it's not made for you and still didn't think

760
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 2>it was great and it's not some awful thing. What's

761
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.440
<v Speaker 2>really irritated me is those who yell, hey, uh mid

762
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>you know middle a white men, this is it for you? Well, okay, so, like,

763
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.440
<v Speaker 2>does does that mean we just have to say, okay,

764
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>it's great? This is one thing that bothers me with

765
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 2>mainstream music is that artists, bands, groups, they get to

766
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>such a level of fame and this this artistry that

767
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 2>they have from a creative standpoint that they could do anything,

768
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and others are some people are just gonna say, well,

769
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.599
<v Speaker 2>it's phenomenal. And if you don't like it, and you

770
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 2>have the balls to say that, man, this is kind

771
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:30.039
<v Speaker 2>of weird.

772
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 5>What is this, then.

773
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.320
<v Speaker 2>You're just attacked as you just you don't get it,

774
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Like you don't, you don't, you can't relate, like you're

775
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 2>just not on our level of understanding. Yeah, like it's

776
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>just that that's kind of what it felt like. But

777
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't think it was awesome, but you

778
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.400
<v Speaker 2>know I didn't. I mean, I didn't go in thinking

779
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 2>he needed to be phenomenal for me, because again, everybody's

780
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:50.800
<v Speaker 2>got their own taste. And I never was a real

781
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>big fan of him in general, not because of any reason.

782
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>It's just of that music genre. He's not one of

783
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 2>my favorite artists. I mean, I probably get hit for

784
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.760
<v Speaker 2>saying this, but like, I mean, I like Drake Better.

785
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about their beef, don't really care

786
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 2>anything about it. I just like Drake's music better. You go,

787
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>all right, we're out of time. Have a good night, everybody.