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<v Speaker 4>show Lastick the client about west come. It's a big

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<v Speaker 4>man Mary show. Welcome to the work in week It's

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the computer had a case of the mondays.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're going to go ahead and do best and

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<v Speaker 2>worst of the weekend. This is where we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the best part of the weekend the worst part of

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend. But first, good morning Lindsay.

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<v Speaker 2>best and worst the weekend? What's the best thing that

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<v Speaker 2>happened this weekend? And the worst thing that happened this weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>Bm My mask at whatever that is to eight, two, nine,

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<v Speaker 2>four or five? What's the best? In what's the worst?

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<v Speaker 6>Lindsay the best spending time with friends and family over

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<v Speaker 6>the holiday weekend and the worst no fireworks, not at all,

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<v Speaker 6>no show due to the storm on Saturday. We did

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<v Speaker 6>make it to the marina on time before it started raining,

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<v Speaker 6>and we thought, okay, we'll just grab a bite to

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<v Speaker 6>eat inside the restaurant at White Honk Cove, and we

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<v Speaker 6>got an appetizer, finished eating it, and then they were like, no,

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<v Speaker 6>we got to evacuate you guys. It's getting way too bad.

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<v Speaker 6>We're nervous now, especially after last week storm. So they're like,

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<v Speaker 6>everyone too at a time on the ramp, and so

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<v Speaker 6>we did that. I took a child, Kevin took a child,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're walking down the ramp. It's pouring so hard.

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<v Speaker 6>I took my hat off just so I could use

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<v Speaker 6>it to keep grip on the railing of this ramp and.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy they just sent you out into it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, they didn't want us to get stuck in

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<v Speaker 6>case it blew away.

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<v Speaker 2>What if you blow away?

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<v Speaker 6>I know, I know, lucky we could swim, I guess.

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<v Speaker 6>And so we just ended up staying in the camper

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<v Speaker 6>on Saturday night because we didn't want to drive home.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you guys have a camper out there too?

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<v Speaker 6>Our friends do, and they were in North Carolina for

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<v Speaker 6>the weekend, so if they're not, they're like, yeah, feel

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<v Speaker 6>free to use it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was the camper.

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<v Speaker 6>No, not too bad. I mean it was really just

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<v Speaker 6>raining so hard, but yeah, we didn't want to drive

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<v Speaker 6>in that fast.

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<v Speaker 2>And worst of the weekend. What's the best part of

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend? What's the worst part of the weekend? Bmms

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever that is to eight two nine four five

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<v Speaker 2>gimb what's the best and what's the worst? Man, I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you start off with the worst. The worst part

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<v Speaker 2>of the weekend would have been Friday, right, me and

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<v Speaker 2>my lady we're heading out to Grand Lake to hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with some friends for the weekend, and hopped on

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<v Speaker 2>the bike and got everything all loaded up. We got

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<v Speaker 2>maybe an hour away from the house. Right, So we're

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<v Speaker 2>an hour from the house and a damn valve stem

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<v Speaker 2>on my back tire on the bike took a cramp

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<v Speaker 2>on me. Didn't blow out, didn't run anything over. We

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<v Speaker 2>were just kind of riding along and then you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feel a little shake a little bit and you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a little weird. Maybe it's the wind. And then

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<v Speaker 2>that shake got to SIMI in and it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>something definitely isn't right here, So pull over to the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the road. Checking to make sure I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>run over anything. It's a brand new tire. I just

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<v Speaker 2>got that like maybe two months ago, right, So brand

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<v Speaker 2>new tire. And I was like, I don't don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it blue out, and everything seems fine. I didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>any any punctures, right, didn't run over any nails in

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<v Speaker 2>the highway or anything. And so I called my brother

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<v Speaker 2>to come save my ass yet again. That guy has

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<v Speaker 2>bailed me out so many times when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>two bikes and whatnots Every bike that I've had, actually

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<v Speaker 2>he's had to come and pick me up. I figured

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<v Speaker 2>that out over the weekend. Every bike I've had, he's

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<v Speaker 2>had to come pick me up at some point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, cool, that's cool. Man, get it loaded

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<v Speaker 2>up on the trailer, and we had to wait an

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<v Speaker 2>hour sitting on the side of the road in the

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<v Speaker 2>blazing hot sun. Right, and I'm out there, jeans, sleeveless

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<v Speaker 2>shirt cut hot au right, got all the gear, all

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<v Speaker 2>the gear man, and and we just after we waited

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<v Speaker 2>for forty five minutes is how long it took for

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<v Speaker 2>him to get there. And we get it loaded up

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<v Speaker 2>and get it to taking over to action where I

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<v Speaker 2>get all my stuff done and hoping, hoping that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they can get it done within like a couple hours

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Well it is, it is the friday before

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<v Speaker 2>the holiday. They're closed on Saturday. Sure, they're not open

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday or today, So I can't get my bike back

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<v Speaker 2>until tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow or whatever. And I'm like, ah, balls,

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<v Speaker 2>So all week with that, all weekend without the bike,

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<v Speaker 2>which is okay, you know, went back to the house,

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<v Speaker 2>got the car, hung out for a little while just

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<v Speaker 2>to see if they were going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. They can't get it in, Like all right, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just come and get it on Tuesday. So went

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<v Speaker 2>out to the lake at a great time. The best

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<v Speaker 2>part of the weekn actually happened this morning. Right, it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be hanging out at the lake, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But but this is so awesome. My oldest boy is

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<v Speaker 2>having his third child today, right, They're at the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>right now having a baby. And I asked him, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Jay, guys, ever come up with a name?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, yeah, we're gonna name it after you. Gimpy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's gonna be Gimpy the third How awesome

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<v Speaker 2>is that? Right? Because my youngest boy is named after me,

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<v Speaker 2>and then so this will be the third. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like that that pleases my heart so much. And

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<v Speaker 2>I says, I need you to do me a favor, though, man,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, what's them? I said, just make sure when

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<v Speaker 2>when he's having his own kids at that name carries

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<v Speaker 2>on down the line. So and he said, it'll go

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<v Speaker 2>on for centuries. And I love it. I love it

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<v Speaker 2>so gay Lord, I can't. I think that is so awesome, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I am really excited. He should have been like,

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<v Speaker 2>why did it take three times? Why didn't you do

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<v Speaker 2>it the first time? They ran out of names. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>a like, I don't know what we're gonna call this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you can call them Gary. But now they

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<v Speaker 2>decided to go with Gaylord instead. So that's that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes me very a very eventful day. Yeah, tell

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<v Speaker 2>me about it. Bensty works the weekend. What's the best

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<v Speaker 2>part of the weekend. What's the worst part of the weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>Bmms and whatever that is to eight, two, nine, four five.

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<v Speaker 2>Best part of the weekend was going to a friend's

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<v Speaker 2>house and they barbecued and got in their pool and

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<v Speaker 2>hung out and it was awesome. Nice, perfect amount of

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<v Speaker 2>water heat, right, nice combo we bought, uh they sell

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<v Speaker 2>Little Tito's Airport bottles. Yeah, and so we bought a

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<v Speaker 2>couple four packs of those to make cocktails at poolside,

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<v Speaker 2>which was you know perfect. And me being the weather nerd,

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<v Speaker 2>I started getting all these alerts on my phone because

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't supposed to happen to like ten thirty eleven o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was supposed to be just a kind of storm,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I got these alerts from my other weather

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<v Speaker 2>army and it was like, oh no. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, it's gonna be it should be fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, it's not gonna be fine, man, it is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be chaos. I lived kind of northwest of town,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was sure enough it was. I got changed

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<v Speaker 2>right then. I was like I'm done. I got a right,

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<v Speaker 2>give me some coffee, because well, I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>get stuck there. And they were like, oh, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna rain like ten minutes. I'm like, it ain't going

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<v Speaker 2>to rain ten minutes, man, Like an inch and a

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<v Speaker 2>quarter or something like that we got in that short

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time and wind damage and I mean we

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<v Speaker 2>had it looked like a we. I was like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go home. My wife was like what, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>would feel better for home. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>stuck here. It's already eight o'clock. Yeah, And so we

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<v Speaker 2>drove home and about halfway I was like, this may

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<v Speaker 2>have not been a good idea because trees were like

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<v Speaker 2>bending right, yeah right. When you see leaves green leave,

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<v Speaker 2>chunks of green leaves fly by, You're like, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to break. This may not be the best decision. But

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<v Speaker 2>so those that was the best and the worst part.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the extra worst part is extending fireworks a second day.

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<v Speaker 2>And where I live, there's two places that do fireworks displays,

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<v Speaker 2>and so one was at nine when was at nine

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<v Speaker 2>thirty last night? Yeah, you're like, I'm trying to sleep, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I just to do it on a Sunday night feels

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<v Speaker 2>I know they got to do it, but crazy fast

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<v Speaker 2>and worst the weekend? What's the best thing that happened

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<v Speaker 2>to you this weekend and the worst thing that happened

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<v Speaker 2>to you this weekend? Best? Had a nice cookout? Worst?

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have a toothache, going to get it pulled?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that sucks? Do you get it replaced? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>getting replaced or you just get it pulled. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>good question. And what would you do? Uh, it depends

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<v Speaker 2>on what the problem is. A toothache. Usually you can

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<v Speaker 2>just do a nerve thing right, root canal, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>the problem will go away.

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<v Speaker 6>Those are expensive, Okay, Yeah, it's cheaper just to pull it.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, it's gonna be expensed. It's not. They're not just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, using plyers right right, it's gonna cost. Best

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<v Speaker 2>and worst the weekend. What's the best part of the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the worst part of the weekend? Best of the weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing fireworks the family, even though the rain happened, worst

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<v Speaker 2>We tried to do fireworks because they were you know,

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<v Speaker 2>then can't see the rest of the fireworks, right, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just staying there foggy. And that's what happened

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington, d C. Where they did these crazy fireworks.

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<v Speaker 2>big fish fry, swimming and friends. Worst trying to play

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<v Speaker 2>down when right, best part got notification I start CDL

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<v Speaker 2>a week late? Well where was she supposed to be? Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Lindsay, Uh, I think it was like eight days.

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<v Speaker 2>To get a mop clean that up? Right? Any other

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<v Speaker 2>situation with that much leak? Ad you go, we gotta

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<v Speaker 2>figure this out. Women you're like, yeah, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do? Best? Long weekend? Worst? Skywork Skaya took fireworks

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<v Speaker 2>Men's Clinic can help with that. You just apologize and

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<v Speaker 2>go on. Yeah, um beat Me and my girlfriend had

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<v Speaker 2>a great weekend. H I'm gonna say, I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>My neighbors decided to set off military grade fireworks last night.

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<v Speaker 2>and the water hose got turned and wet fireworks didn't ignite.

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<v Speaker 2>you can't pour water on someone's stuff. Man, No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's destruction of property. Yeah, essentially we were on these fireworks.

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<v Speaker 2>They destroyed them. We were at the fireworks stand and

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<v Speaker 2>they had a board of people who spent the most

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<v Speaker 2>in the tent, like the top three. Oh nice, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think the top number one was? When I

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<v Speaker 6>Five grand uh.

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<v Speaker 2>and say seventy five hundred sixty one dollars and they

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<v Speaker 6>Goodness, gracious, sixty one dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you all. When I have a

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<v Speaker 2>big purchase over two hundred dollars, I save for it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>How long you've been saving for six How long did

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<v Speaker 2>it take since last fourth of July? Yeah? No, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean to light it and make it go. Yeah, right crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's some of the things that happened in the neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 2>like happened so like the neighborhood ones that people do

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they go on and on and on and

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<v Speaker 2>on and on and on and on and on. You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>how much did you spend? Yeah, but it is cool

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody likes it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Some adults don't.

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<v Speaker 2>and it's known as the Disney's rash, the Disney's rash. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds terrible. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you're young.

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<v Speaker 2>I move. I think it's working. Sometimes known as a

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<v Speaker 2>golfer's thing too. Yeah, they have drug induced vasculitis and

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<v Speaker 2>then exercise induced vesculitis. Huh So the text Best of

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend got to have a blast outside. Worst of

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend got a message from a random hookup. She's pregnant. Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sucks to be that person. Well, get a test. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not saying she's a woman of what's the term giving

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<v Speaker 2>of loose morals? Right, she's a whore, but you never know, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jeff Finsley can help you through the whole process,

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<v Speaker 2>right if you need it. Right. Someone said they spent

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<v Speaker 2>over six k crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yikes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not Jakes. It was just a stand on

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't the big building. This was just a tint

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<v Speaker 2>on the side of the road. Six grand. How big

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<v Speaker 2>a truck do you think you need that? You just

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<v Speaker 2>fill up the bed right one hundred percent? Because you

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<v Speaker 2>ain't putting that in a forward escort. Sounds like you're

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<v Speaker 2>at our fireworks stand. The guys spent sixty one hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>came back two other times, spend another five grand. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the exact number of that. Yeah, I must have been

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<v Speaker 2>at yours. Wow, it's a great stand. So eleven thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Last thing you spend eleven thousand dollars dollars on, lindsay,

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<v Speaker 6>Probably furniture for the house when we moved.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, give me appliance is a damn. You've never spent

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<v Speaker 2>mean it feels like something you should go. I should

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<v Speaker 2>reevaluate my stuff because you shouldn't spend eleven thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on a lawyer. Not a car trip. Oh did the

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<v Speaker 2>Disney trip? Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there were fireworks on that trip? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>That were better than that. Best was having a week

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<v Speaker 2>in full of family being together. Worst took the dog

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<v Speaker 2>out this morning before work and see the upright deep

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<v Speaker 2>freezer door crack to open. Everything is de thowed, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's frozen. Think about your words before you use them, people.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just let people think about that one. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. We'll be back. Go ahead and see

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<v Speaker 2>what Ghimpie has in his form. My forma go but

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<v Speaker 2>it says here the huge crowds more in Iran's a

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<v Speaker 2>supreme leader. Tens of thousands flooded the streets of Tehran

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday wailing and chanting, with some calling for refenge. Even

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<v Speaker 2>larger crowds are expected today, when Ayatolakmani's casket will be

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<v Speaker 2>Iran is holding a six day funeral ahead of his

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<v Speaker 2>four months after he's killed and a US Israeli airstrike.

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<v Speaker 2>Peace talks between the US and Iran are set to

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<v Speaker 2>resume after the funeral. Four months seems like a long

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<v Speaker 2>what else we got here? Dozens of deaths blamed on

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<v Speaker 2>on the extreme heat that's gripping half of the nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Over one hundred and fifty million Americans across the Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>US were subjected to record sitting heat on the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>National Guard members were seen rendering aid to heat victims

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<v Speaker 2>attending the America two fifty festivities. The extreme heat helped

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<v Speaker 2>create massive thunderstorms later in the evening, causing gusty winds,

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<v Speaker 2>large hail, and power outages. Many fireworks displays have been

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<v Speaker 2>postponed until after the thunderstorm. Because I'm a weather nerd,

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling Lindsay before the show, I was checking

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<v Speaker 2>shaded temperatures and the next week because they're saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be bad on Thursday in the shade anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the shade. That's nice. And then the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, and yeah, and looks like Sunday and a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit on Monday. Yeah it's gonna be hot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just make sure you will hydrate it. Right. What

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<v Speaker 2>else we got here? Research shows mosquitoes can learn to

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<v Speaker 2>associate deet with food lope they get yes. Research conducted

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<v Speaker 2>getting Research conducted at Virginia Tech suggests that mosquitos are

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<v Speaker 2>A study published by the Journal of Experimental Biology focused

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<v Speaker 2>effective than applying a high dose just once. And then lastly,

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<v Speaker 2>here City of Bars bills offering free storm debris drop

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<v Speaker 2>off through Friday. The side opens at eleven am on

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<v Speaker 2>the week. It's located on city owned property. That says

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<v Speaker 2>the debris disposal site will be open from seven am

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<v Speaker 2>to four pm every day following Sunday. The city said

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<v Speaker 2>only tree debris, brush, brush and vegetation damage during recent

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<v Speaker 2>studio at nine. Get your question to us ahead of time.

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning Lindsay, Good morning Corbyn. This Friday, we'll be

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<v Speaker 6>doing some day drinking at Fad Daddies at a first

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<v Speaker 6>and memorial for Cleats and Cold Ones. Get some mug

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<v Speaker 6>to a live a soccer event for Cleats and Cold Ones.

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<v Speaker 6>Two four at Fat Daddies.

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<v Speaker 2>Givebe is out so we'll see him again tomorrow. He

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<v Speaker 2>had to go take care of something and now it's

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<v Speaker 2>time for our listeners. Are awesome. This is where we

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<v Speaker 2>chat with the listener and they share a part of

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<v Speaker 2>their life with us, and on the line with us

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<v Speaker 2>today is Anna. Hey Anna, how are you? Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>You?

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<v Speaker 8>Good morning?

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<v Speaker 2>It says here Anna. You've been married thirteen years. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>me how did you meet your husband? Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it was actually kind of a silly story. I

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<v Speaker 8>met him through a mutual friend who actually happens to

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<v Speaker 8>be my ex I'll say. But yeah, we left them

427
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<v Speaker 8>good terms and that's that's how I met him to

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<v Speaker 8>be future husband.

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<v Speaker 2>Did your ex set you up?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh? More or less? Like I said, we were on

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<v Speaker 8>good terms and we were, you know, just hanging out

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<v Speaker 8>as a big group of people, as a small party

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<v Speaker 8>in the backwards But yeah, that's its history.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it about him that caught your eye it

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<v Speaker 2>made you go whole boy?

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<v Speaker 6>Hm hmm.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe that he was two of the three meals that

438
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<v Speaker 8>were there, not including my ex.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so it was a numbers game. Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It says here that you are an ER nurse. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>me about why have you always been an R nurse

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<v Speaker 2>or did you start another area of nursing and then

444
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<v Speaker 2>moved to emergency.

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<v Speaker 8>I did start another area that I knew from the

446
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<v Speaker 8>get go that I always wanted to be an R nurse.

447
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<v Speaker 8>I just didn't quite have the experience. It was, you know,

448
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<v Speaker 8>kind of starting out doing my best. I think every

449
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<v Speaker 8>nurse kind of start Moss nurses start on ned serge.

450
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<v Speaker 8>But the whole time I was, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 8>get my footing, my experience to finally put in the

452
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<v Speaker 8>application for an ER and you know, it took a

453
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<v Speaker 8>couple of years before they accepted me.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's been so TV. The Pit TV show

455
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<v Speaker 2>specifically would depict the ers being chaos NonStop. It is

456
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<v Speaker 2>like drinking getting a drink out of a fire hose.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's how crazy it is. Is that accurate.

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<v Speaker 8>For most of the hospitals. Yes, Now there's some lower

459
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<v Speaker 8>acuity hospitals. There's two big hospitals in Tulsa that is

460
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<v Speaker 8>fairly accurate. Now I won't say that at one hundred percent.

461
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<v Speaker 8>There are days I said, wow, this is a really

462
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<v Speaker 8>good morning. I mean you put your foot in your

463
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<v Speaker 8>mouth and you realize, wow, nobody's woken up yet. I

464
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<v Speaker 8>tried to watch the Pit. It took a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>to well. I mean just I couldn't quite commit to it.

466
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<v Speaker 8>There's some accuracies there. I think, as you're in this field,

467
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<v Speaker 8>you've taken us a little bit more criticism for medical shows.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't commit to it because of like PTSD, or couldn't

469
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<v Speaker 2>commit to it because no.

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<v Speaker 8>No, no, it just I guess I just thought it

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<v Speaker 8>was kind of silly. I mean there were certain things

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<v Speaker 8>in there that were just a little bit silly, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense. I mean they embellished a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more than you felt was accurate.

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<v Speaker 8>They're probably so there are I mean those wild scenes, Yes,

476
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<v Speaker 8>they do happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. And what's the craziest thing you've seen working in

478
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<v Speaker 2>the r.

479
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<v Speaker 8>Ooh, it's hard to put something in number one spot.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, of course we get a lot of pretty

481
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<v Speaker 8>major traumas.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh gosh, it says here that you you had a

483
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<v Speaker 2>teenager come through and they played a game that they

484
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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have played.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, that is one of probably the more more disheartening

486
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<v Speaker 8>traumas that I uh that I witnessed it. It was

487
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<v Speaker 8>a young feller and I mean, what do you say

488
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<v Speaker 8>about that he was playing a game of Russian or what.

489
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<v Speaker 8>I don't know who else was involved. I just know

490
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<v Speaker 8>that he came in and you can kind of see

491
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<v Speaker 8>that last look on his face, and that was probably

492
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<v Speaker 8>the worst part of it. So, yes, he did not

493
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<v Speaker 8>win that game of Russian Roulette.

494
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<v Speaker 2>And when somebody comes in where it's clear they're not

495
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<v Speaker 2>going to make it, how much effort do you put

496
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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how you guys can go, well, we

497
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<v Speaker 2>got to keep trying when it is quite clear there's

498
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<v Speaker 2>nothing that can be done.

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<v Speaker 8>They do try. Yes, I mean we give it all

500
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.519
<v Speaker 8>that There are certain criteria. Blood work will tell you

501
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 8>a lot about the condition of the body. So, for example,

502
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<v Speaker 8>the pH of the human body, there has to be

503
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<v Speaker 8>a certain happy zone, so you can kind of see

504
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:47.200
<v Speaker 8>when they're declining after they have passed. That will excuse

505
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:51.640
<v Speaker 8>me that that work will start to change. Also, people

506
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<v Speaker 8>you know, fixed and dilated, there's a certain criteria. And

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<v Speaker 8>of course you know the nature of the accident that

508
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<v Speaker 8>I mean, when you put it all together, that's when

509
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<v Speaker 8>the doctor will decide, you know, this is this is futall.

510
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<v Speaker 8>We're not going to make any We're not going to

511
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<v Speaker 8>be able to save him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't imagine how challenging that is to see

513
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<v Speaker 2>that unfold in front of you. We're talking with Anna R,

514
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<v Speaker 2>one of our listeners. She's awesome, she's an er nurse.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to ask nurses this question because I think

516
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<v Speaker 2>it's such a fascinating question. You just don't think about

517
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<v Speaker 2>it when you talk to a nurse. How many penises

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<v Speaker 2>do you think you've seen?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>My goodness, millions, like a like a lot. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 8>Well you knows something, as you said that. I actually

522
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<v Speaker 8>my goal is to try a day, and I think

523
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 8>every nurse makes a silly goal mine is. I hope

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<v Speaker 8>I don't see one that day. That's why I'm hoping.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you and I have different goals, daily goals. That yeah,

526
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<v Speaker 2>that I get it. We have a goal. I hope

527
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<v Speaker 2>I don't see a penis today.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh my goodness. Yes, whether it medical or you know,

529
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<v Speaker 8>some people just they.

530
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<v Speaker 2>Streak, right, they choose to show it to people for sure.

531
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<v Speaker 2>What about what's the number of times you've treated somebody

532
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<v Speaker 2>that had something in their butt?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh? We personally maybe a couple dozen. But I think

534
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<v Speaker 8>anything new has this this spidey sense, so to speak,

535
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<v Speaker 8>where we know that somebody is getting something in so

536
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<v Speaker 8>we have to be bored that it'll tell you what

537
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<v Speaker 8>kind of in a subtle way, what a person's coming

538
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<v Speaker 8>in for. Yeah, so when it says foreign body is

539
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.880
<v Speaker 8>that okay, all our ears kind of perk up. We

540
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 8>start doing some little subtle snooping. Now, a poor body,

541
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 8>it could be something as simple as, you know, maybe

542
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<v Speaker 8>they got a bug in their ear.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>Of course we're all a little bit let down. It's

545
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<v Speaker 8>just a bug in the ear, you know. But when

546
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 8>we find out that somebody's put something where they shouldn't

547
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 8>have and the no nos, what but that's a little

548
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<v Speaker 8>bit better.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the craziest thing that you've seemed to be a

550
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 2>foreign body removed from an individual?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it actually was not successfully removed and had to

552
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<v Speaker 8>go to surgery. That it was a full size shaving.

553
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<v Speaker 6>Cream can Oh my goodness, No.

554
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<v Speaker 8>That's Keppard.

555
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Or didn't. I don't know that that is that is crazy.

556
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<v Speaker 2>And you guys have a Nurses have a really good

557
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<v Speaker 2>sense to tell in someone's lying in those scenarios, right.

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<v Speaker 8>Most of the time. Yes, this particular sea, he did

559
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<v Speaker 8>not want to talk to me at all. He's like,

560
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<v Speaker 8>just let me see the doctor. I was like, I'm

561
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<v Speaker 8>going to be a part whether you want me to

562
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<v Speaker 8>or not.

563
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Right, either I'm going to find out now or he's

564
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<v Speaker 2>going to tell me.

565
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.519
<v Speaker 8>Right. So you're coming with a generic abdominal.

566
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<v Speaker 2>Pain, right, right. Have you ever made friendship with somebody

567
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<v Speaker 2>that you treated in the er, so like they came

568
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>in for treatment and then you help them and then

569
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:07.279
<v Speaker 2>you somehow developed a friendship with them.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I'm kind too, well, I mean it's a

571
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<v Speaker 8>kind to me. I'm going to be kind to you.

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<v Speaker 8>But as for long lasting friendships, I cut it off

573
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<v Speaker 8>at the hospital. Now there's been a couple of patients

574
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<v Speaker 8>who like, here, here is my number, and but it's

575
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<v Speaker 8>usually you know, really sweet older folks. It's not anybody young.

576
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<v Speaker 8>I mean, of course, I think we all get hit

577
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<v Speaker 8>on by the occasional you know, drunk in the hospital.

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00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>But right I can kind of cut it off. I

579
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<v Speaker 2>can remember one instance where we were in the hospital

580
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<v Speaker 2>and the it wasn't er, but the nurse was very

581
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<v Speaker 2>accommodating and kind and and I remember just that person

582
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<v Speaker 2>feeling like we had been friends for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's just one of those characteristics that

584
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:57.319
<v Speaker 2>make the difference between a good nurse and a great nurse.

585
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<v Speaker 8>Right yeah, I think so too. You certainly have to

586
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<v Speaker 8>have compassion and empathy, and I think it's really hard

587
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:06.920
<v Speaker 8>for many nurses, especially in this setting, when there is

588
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 8>a lot of verbal abuse, there's a lot of physical

589
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 8>abuse from patients, so it's hard for many of them

590
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.400
<v Speaker 8>to you to wake up with a smile on their

591
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<v Speaker 8>face and go into work and try to serve their community.

592
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 8>It's different because when people come to the er, most

593
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<v Speaker 8>of the time, that is the worst day of their

594
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:28.679
<v Speaker 8>entire life, and you have to take that into consideration.

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<v Speaker 8>They're not going to be in a good mood. They're

596
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<v Speaker 8>going to be mean. I would be too feeling good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's an excellent point that you're seeing people on

598
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Speaker 2>their worst day. Let's shift away from the nursing stuff,

599
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>but it says here you almost drowned at Flint Creek.

600
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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about how old were you? What was the scenario?

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<v Speaker 8>So this is actually last year. Wow, yes, so somewhat fresh.

602
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<v Speaker 8>So it was just a little family trip over to

603
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<v Speaker 8>Flint Creek. I have a little water park there and

604
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:04.719
<v Speaker 8>this time of year it was very, very crowded. On

605
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 8>the top. Lots of families, tents, cookouts, so they have

606
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 8>a dam and this little dam will step off. Of course,

607
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 8>there's a little waterfall, and I'm not sure if you

608
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 8>remember around this time last year, we also had a

609
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 8>ton of rain, so the water was really moving, but

610
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<v Speaker 8>you didn't really notice it until you got to the

611
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 8>little waterfall section. Of course, we were trying to make

612
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 8>our way down the waterfall set up somewhere away from

613
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 8>others so we could kind of hang out, well, me

614
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 8>and my daughter who was fourteen, and we went up

615
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<v Speaker 8>to the top of that waterfall and historically it's never

616
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 8>been dangerous. I've never had any problems. I've scuba dived

617
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<v Speaker 8>over there before when I first met my now husband,

618
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<v Speaker 8>So my mindset going in is this is perfectly safe.

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<v Speaker 8>So what outside? So when we get to the top,

620
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 8>our plan was to jump a little bit further out,

621
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<v Speaker 8>you know, just to have a good time. I guess

622
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 8>my daughter was walking and she sat down, that lost

623
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:22.079
<v Speaker 8>her grip, her her little legs slipped off, and then

624
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 8>she just fell straight down, and I saw the panic

625
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:28.800
<v Speaker 8>in my husband's eyes. I knew she was way too

626
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.880
<v Speaker 8>close to it, and my first instinct is to jump in.

627
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:37.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean not a not a clear logical thought went

628
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<v Speaker 8>into my head. So I jumped, and no sooner than

629
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 8>I did, I became vivicted myself. It was pretty quick

630
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 8>that I realized the power of even something so small,

631
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 8>that little tiny waterfall. And what I have is a

632
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 8>cult a circulating current. So essentially, when you're trying to

633
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:02.599
<v Speaker 8>swim away, as the water is pushing down, as it's

634
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 8>coming off there at the ledge, it pulls you back

635
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 8>and then you get caught underneath and it pushes you

636
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 8>to the bottom and you surface and you try to

637
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 8>swim away and it pulls you back, and it's just

638
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:16.840
<v Speaker 8>a washing machine effect, and that's what happened to me.

639
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:21.599
<v Speaker 8>I was in such danger. I couldn't even, you know,

640
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 8>think where is my daughter? I couldn't see. I knew

641
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 8>I was getting fatigued. About the fourth or fifth time

642
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 8>that it pulled me back, I remember looking around. I

643
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 8>looked at my husband, who's just standing there, you know,

644
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.599
<v Speaker 8>wide eyed. I mean, if he went in, he would

645
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.840
<v Speaker 8>have certainly been in trouble. I was looking around for

646
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 8>anybody else, and I just said help, help, before it

647
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 8>pulled me back and pushed me down again. And that

648
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.559
<v Speaker 8>was not the time I thought said I'm not going

649
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:57.159
<v Speaker 8>to make it out of here. I didn't have any

650
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Speaker 8>lung capacity. I'm not a strong swimmer anyway, but my

651
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.639
<v Speaker 8>legs were screaming, and it's just like I needed to

652
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 8>take a breath. And it was on that time, you know,

653
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 8>you start kind of thinking and praying and how am

654
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:12.639
<v Speaker 8>I going to get out of this? That was the

655
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 8>last time that had pushed me down, and by God's

656
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 8>grace alone, it pushed me out far enough that I

657
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 8>was able to get away from that current and make

658
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 8>my way to the shore, where I saw my daughter standing.

659
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 8>She was crying. My muscles were so tired, I was fatigued.

660
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 8>I just I couldn't even stand up. So it was

661
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 8>very scary.

662
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it was very scary. And have you

663
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:39.480
<v Speaker 2>been back since.

664
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 8>No, we haven't gone back. Yeah, we've been to other areas,

665
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 8>but not that one. I think it's still really traumatic

666
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 8>for my daughter. And I mean, I'm certainly not going

667
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.920
<v Speaker 8>to go near the waterfall that. I think it's important,

668
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:57.400
<v Speaker 8>you know, to face your fears.

669
00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>We just.

670
00:38:59.440 --> 00:38:59.800
<v Speaker 8>Haven't.

671
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every time I've been there, I'm always surprised with

672
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>how slippery the rocks are near that that damn area,

673
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:09.239
<v Speaker 2>because it you're right, it is moving faster in that spot,

674
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 2>and it kind of takes you by surprise.

675
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 8>Well, we were lucky, so it sounds like it's still.

676
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:22.199
<v Speaker 2>It gets to you.

677
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean, as an ear nursia kind of have

678
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:29.440
<v Speaker 8>to be tough and kind of push some of those

679
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:35.840
<v Speaker 8>negative things down. But I mean, it's the second time

680
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:37.639
<v Speaker 8>I'm almost around the first time was when I was

681
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 8>a kid in my parents' pond, but I didn't know

682
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.440
<v Speaker 8>how to swim there, and I just I have too

683
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 8>much that I want to accomplish, you know, I want

684
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 8>to see my daughter through. I'm want to get her

685
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 8>to college. So I think all these experiences over my lifetime,

686
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 8>which i'd like to think is it very long, you know,

687
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.039
<v Speaker 8>they do kind of added a little bit of a

688
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 8>I guess I'm a scaredy cat.

689
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 10>Now.

690
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Sometimes called

691
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>people call that awareness And was there someone else that

692
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:14.679
<v Speaker 2>tried to help you? In that instance?

693
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:19.639
<v Speaker 8>I didn't see him on the top. So when I

694
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:25.760
<v Speaker 8>got out of the water and we were looking back, uh,

695
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 8>you know my daughter, I'm trying to seethe and consult her.

696
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 8>But within about a minute that is when we saw

697
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:36.960
<v Speaker 8>a body floating on top of the water. This person

698
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.440
<v Speaker 8>clearly was caught in the you know, the same kind

699
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:44.960
<v Speaker 8>of you know, washing machine effect, but he didn't make

700
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:48.880
<v Speaker 8>it out. And when we saw his body floating, you know,

701
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:53.119
<v Speaker 8>I'm still sitting there. My husband he went forward drug

702
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:56.079
<v Speaker 8>him out, and then that's kind of we had to

703
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.960
<v Speaker 8>go in. Okay, what do we have to do. He

704
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.519
<v Speaker 8>still had a pulse, you know, so you check that,

705
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.039
<v Speaker 8>make sure he still had a pulse. And if you

706
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 8>have a pulse and you're just not breathing, that's when

707
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 8>you have to do rescue breaths, so you essentially breathe,

708
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.519
<v Speaker 8>you know it, mouth the mouth. So I really didn't

709
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.760
<v Speaker 8>expect to kiss another man on the trip, but that's

710
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 8>how it turned out.

711
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>And did he survive?

712
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.960
<v Speaker 8>He did, he did survive. Life Light or some version

713
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 8>of life flight came and took him from there, and

714
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 8>I don't know which hospital. I'm curious. I mean, I

715
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.079
<v Speaker 8>do want to thank that person. I'm sure he came out, okay,

716
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 8>I mean, being sick in twenty twenty six is twenty

717
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 8>six is the best time to be sick because we

718
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 8>have so much technology and people survived the most amazing things.

719
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 8>But if he is out there, it's just the bravery,

720
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:57.880
<v Speaker 8>the fact that he tried. I do want to thank him.

721
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 8>I don't know who he is, but.

722
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be amazing if we could get a

723
00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 2>hold of him. And do you remember to try and

724
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.320
<v Speaker 2>help narrow it down when was this out there? What

725
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 2>time of the year last year?

726
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 8>It would have been probably the exact same time, you know,

727
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 8>either July or August of last year.

728
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, if this is you or you know who this is,

729
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>email us show at kmod dot com or text in

730
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:27.320
<v Speaker 2>and we'll see if we can't connect you with that

731
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.480
<v Speaker 2>person to see if that's even a possibility, because that's

732
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.559
<v Speaker 2>that's that would be amazing for you to be able

733
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 2>to do that, because it sounds like it still hits

734
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 2>you a little bit.

735
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 8>He does.

736
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:42.079
<v Speaker 2>When that ended, So all that's done, you pack up

737
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and leave right.

738
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:48.320
<v Speaker 8>Yes, we did. We got our stuff and we left

739
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 8>right away, said my daughter. She was just really really

740
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 8>frightened by it. And there was I mean, what do

741
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.639
<v Speaker 8>you do as a mom who was nearly a victing yourself.

742
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.559
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's just hard to try to provide that reassurance.

743
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 8>But she's doing okay now, she's thriving. We just really

744
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 8>don't talk much about it.

745
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 2>How long was that ride home? It probably felt like

746
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 2>an eternity.

747
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:16.679
<v Speaker 8>This is about a fifty minute ride home.

748
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was right. That is crazy what we

749
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 2>haven't even We couldn't even get to the other thing

750
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:27.519
<v Speaker 2>because we've run out of time. That you had that

751
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 2>It was crazy that happened to you. But I know,

752
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.239
<v Speaker 2>being in our nurse is probably one of those things

753
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 2>that people don't say thank you enough, because I think

754
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:39.280
<v Speaker 2>nurses are vitally important to the medical world. They do

755
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the heavy lifting that gets credited to

756
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>other people. So I just want to say thank you

757
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 2>for you and all the other nurses out there that

758
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 2>do all that hard work. Thank you, And we sure

759
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.960
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed talking to you. And and if we hear something,

760
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>we'll make sure we connect you with that person.

761
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 8>Okay, Okay, that sounds good.

762
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, see you later, right bye, and our listeners

763
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 2>are awesome. Take a break and we'll be back the

764
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Big Men Morning Show returns. Excuse Remember school lunches I do,

765
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 2>and I remember to this day. I would give anything

766
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 2>to go back and have that chocolate chip cookie that

767
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:18.119
<v Speaker 2>they made. I don't know how, I don't know. It

768
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:21.800
<v Speaker 2>was special. It was the perfect amount of crunchy and

769
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.079
<v Speaker 2>chewy and chocolate chips. They were the small chocolate chips,

770
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:27.800
<v Speaker 2>so it covered. And they were kind of big too.

771
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 2>They weren't just like a normal size. They were a

772
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 2>little bit bigger than the average cookie. And so a

773
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:41.559
<v Speaker 2>list got compiled of the top five best school lunch desserts. Okay,

774
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.000
<v Speaker 2>and that cookie was on it. I mean, it's a

775
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 2>cafeteria cookies. Do you remember cafeteria cookies? I don't know.

776
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't remember us having cafeteria cookies. I remember the

777
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 6>vanilla pudding with nilla wafers and bananas, okay, and it

778
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:02.719
<v Speaker 6>wasn't that great, but like an option, yes, but it

779
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 6>was an option. Or chocolate pudding with whipped cream. That

780
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 6>was usually one that I got.

781
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember wrong, I don't remember putting at all.

782
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 2>But on these lists are some ones you expect, like

783
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:19.559
<v Speaker 2>oatmeal cream pies. I don't remember them handing out pre

784
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.599
<v Speaker 2>made off site desserts or snacks.

785
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:29.079
<v Speaker 6>No, we had popsicle days, but that was more of

786
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 6>a that wasn't in the cafeteria. That was like if

787
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.159
<v Speaker 6>it was real hot outside, the school provided pop.

788
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like like in your classroom they'd bring around popsicles.

789
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 6>They would, they would. It would be like right before

790
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 6>recess they would hand them out and then you would

791
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 6>take them out and get to eat them at recess

792
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.320
<v Speaker 6>because you know, they didn't want you messing up the classroom.

793
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Or right the number of hands that it would have

794
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>to be washed after that. Another one on this list

795
00:45:56.079 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>of top desserts from school frozen juice bars. These are

796
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>called Smooth Smooth or there was a mini made version.

797
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.199
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of like in a triangle thing. You

798
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:07.000
<v Speaker 2>had to rip open.

799
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:08.440
<v Speaker 6>Yep, we did have those.

800
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't remember those, but essentially like an icy

801
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 2>type of thing, right.

802
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, or or a fruit bar and had like chunks

803
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 6>of fruit in.

804
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>It but it was frozen. Yeah.

805
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 6>Uh huh.

806
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Another one ice cream cups with the wooden spoons. I

807
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.159
<v Speaker 2>remember those, and so it looked like saucer but there

808
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>would be fruit perfectly mixed in. Yeah, and he had

809
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 2>to pull the little cardboard thing off. Yeah.

810
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 6>I hate the wooden spoons. I feel like anything served

811
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 6>with a wooden spoon, that's all you taste. And I

812
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:45.800
<v Speaker 6>know in Australia they don't serve plastic cutlery. It's all wooden.

813
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:50.079
<v Speaker 6>And that was like when my friend Natalie went there

814
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:51.760
<v Speaker 6>to visit, she said that was the one thing she

815
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.239
<v Speaker 6>couldn't stand because you taste.

816
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 2>The wood right. I don't know if I have an

817
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 2>opinion on it either way. That's interesting. And then strawberry

818
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:06.679
<v Speaker 2>shortcake bars. I don't remember getting these either. Again, something

819
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:11.000
<v Speaker 2>packaged off site. Yeah, no, and we get these now

820
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.360
<v Speaker 2>because my kids love them. I find them really I've

821
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 2>tasted a couple of times and thought it was really gross.

822
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't love sprinkles, so whatever that coating thing is

823
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 2>on the outside of the bar is what gets me

824
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 2>freaked out.

825
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:28.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know if those are. Sometimes they would

826
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.119
<v Speaker 6>give they had pop tarts.

827
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you could do pop tarts.

828
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 6>I know that. Like at my kids' school now they

829
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 6>have like an a la carte where you can go

830
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:41.199
<v Speaker 6>and buy it and they can get treats.

831
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, don't I know it.

832
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah we didn't. That was never an option for us.

833
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.320
<v Speaker 2>No, it was for us, but not until high school, right,

834
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 2>And it was never anything like, well, my kids gatorade,

835
00:47:54.639 --> 00:48:01.840
<v Speaker 2>they have Sunday Day yeah right, Cereal. Never candy bars,

836
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean crazy stuff. Somebody text and said our cookies

837
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:05.360
<v Speaker 2>were Otis spunk Meyer.

838
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh okay.

839
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 2>That was always like presented as a really like good

840
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:14.960
<v Speaker 2>respected cookie, and I felt like it was garbage at best.

841
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I've never thought those were good cookies.

842
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.920
<v Speaker 6>So our kids sell Otis shirt comeyer, but I don't

843
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:22.719
<v Speaker 6>think we ever had them to purchase.

844
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never had them. Been like, man, these are

845
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.000
<v Speaker 2>good Double Tree cookies. I don't know what they used,

846
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 2>but there's a pretty good ollie.

847
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.039
<v Speaker 6>I remember a friend of mine never had a Double

848
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:40.079
<v Speaker 6>Tree cookie, and we were walking by the hotel, and

849
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:41.960
<v Speaker 6>I said we should just stop in for a cookie

850
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.360
<v Speaker 6>because I bet they're fresh. What they have cookies? Yeah,

851
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:48.159
<v Speaker 6>And we walked in and it changed his life.

852
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're so good. Yeah, perfectly hot.

853
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:52.079
<v Speaker 6>Yes.

854
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh and a couple of years ago they had them,

855
00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.559
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know if that's still because things changed

856
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.079
<v Speaker 2>so much. Yeah, they still have them. Oh yeah, warm

857
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:08.840
<v Speaker 2>chocolate chip cookies to you at check in. There's even

858
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:13.519
<v Speaker 2>an allergy free version and a gluten free version, and

859
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 2>it's free of the top nine allergens. What are the

860
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 2>top nine allergens? Okay, peanuts right?

861
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 6>Any nuts?

862
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, flour right people that seliac yep, sure, dairy, milk,

863
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:33.079
<v Speaker 2>what else? Hell, I don't know, so I pulled the

864
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 2>list up here. Peanuts feels like number one, tree nuts, milk,

865
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:48.840
<v Speaker 2>egg fish, shellfish, soy wheat, and sesame. Now, some of

866
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:50.280
<v Speaker 2>those we should obviously know aren't a part of a

867
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.840
<v Speaker 2>chocolate chip cookie. But what do you make a chocolate

868
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.159
<v Speaker 2>chip cookie out of? Then? No egg, no milk?

869
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you gotta use uh gluten, the gluten free flour.

870
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 2>You still need to buy. To me, you already use

871
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 2>like almond or milk, and you can.

872
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:17.760
<v Speaker 6>Do it without egg. You can make them without.

873
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Egg, but you need a binding agent. And to me,

874
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 2>the I I have had a cottage cheese cookie.

875
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.679
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you tell a difference.

876
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.679
<v Speaker 2>You absolutely can tell the difference. Nothing beats a real

877
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.719
<v Speaker 2>chocolate chip cookie. People that suffer from these type of

878
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.039
<v Speaker 2>allergens and they don't get to eat real chocolate chip cookies,

879
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you're acting like they're good. I remember when my wife

880
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 2>was pregnant with our first kid and she couldn't have dairy.

881
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 2>She was having like a bad reaction. We she'ld have

882
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 2>dairy and so, but we do pizza, and so I'd

883
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 2>be like, Oh, we're gonna We're gonna make dairy free,

884
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 2>use dairy free cheese. It's gonna be great. It wasn't.

885
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 2>It was gross. It's gross. It days nothing like pizza, right,

886
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:02.599
<v Speaker 2>It's so bad.

887
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.079
<v Speaker 6>Everything made me sick when I was pregnant with my

888
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:11.719
<v Speaker 6>first except four cheeseburgers, French fries, and chocolate milkshit. That

889
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:14.440
<v Speaker 6>was it. Everything else I would throw up. And Kevin decided,

890
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:16.760
<v Speaker 6>from now on, we're not going out to dinner anywhere,

891
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:18.559
<v Speaker 6>because as soon as we would leave the restaurant, I

892
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 6>was throwing up in the parking.

893
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Lot right, wasting the money right, So.

894
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.880
<v Speaker 6>I lived off of Brahms cheeseburgers and malts.

895
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't feel like a punishment, No.

896
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't. It was for me. I would get really

897
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.079
<v Speaker 6>tired of it really quick. But and to this day

898
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 6>I think that that is his fit in my kid's favorite.

899
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Meal, Do you eat it or no?

900
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 6>Not really?

901
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.199
<v Speaker 2>All right, we got to take a Breakjeffinsley's going to

902
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 2>join us coming up. If you've got a question about

903
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:49.159
<v Speaker 2>family law, he will be the one to ask it

904
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 2>in the studio at nine. If you're listening to The

905
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Big Mad Morning Show, Good morning Lindsay, Good morning Corbin.

906
00:51:56.079 --> 00:52:01.079
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907
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:07.480
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908
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 6>Ass up. She was a twenty nineteen Spank Bank Latina

909
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 6>Starlet of the Year winner.

910
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Gimpie's out, but he should be back with us tomorrow.

911
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Join us in the studio now is Jeff Heinsley of

912
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Heinsley and Associates.

913
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Jeff, Hey, good morning. How's it going.

914
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.599
<v Speaker 2>We're doing great and we've already got people texting in

915
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 2>asking questions. Family law is the topic going through divorce

916
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.639
<v Speaker 2>or custody, name changes, guardianships, anything like that. Jeff can

917
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.239
<v Speaker 2>answer those questions. And we had somebody text in this

918
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.679
<v Speaker 2>morning when we did Best and Worst in the weekend,

919
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.360
<v Speaker 2>and he said he got a message from a random

920
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:46.519
<v Speaker 2>hookup that she's pregnant. What would be your advice if

921
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:49.360
<v Speaker 2>someone called up to you and said that.

922
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 9>Step one is to get a DNA test once the

923
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 9>baby is born. I mean, that's a lot of people

924
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:57.280
<v Speaker 9>pull though, well, why can't we get one now, Well,

925
00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.760
<v Speaker 9>if the baby's in utero and hasn't been born yet,

926
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 9>can't do it. But don't automatically assume that it's yours.

927
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 9>I hate to say it that way, but that's kind

928
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:08.280
<v Speaker 9>of the fact and truth of it is is that

929
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:11.920
<v Speaker 9>if it's a random hookup and you don't know this person,

930
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.840
<v Speaker 9>and there's a good chance that there may be other

931
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:18.199
<v Speaker 9>random hookups involved, So you know, the first thing is

932
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:20.239
<v Speaker 9>is don't assume at yours. And second thing is is

933
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 9>make sure once the baby is born that you do

934
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.719
<v Speaker 9>get a DNA test. Do not sign the birth certificate,

935
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.280
<v Speaker 9>do not sign the acknowledgment of paternity at the hospital.

936
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.960
<v Speaker 9>If you're going to be involved that way, because that

937
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 9>will put you on the hook. Step one is always

938
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:35.760
<v Speaker 9>get a DNA test first.

939
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:40.199
<v Speaker 2>What would be your response to somebody who says, I'm

940
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'll get pressured into it or I

941
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:48.320
<v Speaker 2>may make things worse by not signing or asking for.

942
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:50.280
<v Speaker 9>A DNA I mean, I would say, look, you have

943
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 9>a right to know if the child is yours, okay,

944
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:54.280
<v Speaker 9>and if it's a random hook up again someone you

945
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:56.920
<v Speaker 9>don't know, I mean, someone you met at the bar,

946
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:00.199
<v Speaker 9>or the I don't know, the church mixer or whatever.

947
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:03.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, whatever it may be, right, you have a

948
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:03.960
<v Speaker 3>right to know.

949
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.360
<v Speaker 9>And just because someone says that yours doesn't necessarily mean

950
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.719
<v Speaker 9>that's the case, especially again, especially if you don't know

951
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 9>this person at all, and so you have a right

952
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 9>to ask for that DNA test. You have a right

953
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:16.880
<v Speaker 9>not to sign those documents, and so you know for

954
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.920
<v Speaker 9>sure that the child is yours. So first and foremost

955
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 9>always you know, and they're gonna pressure you with, well,

956
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:23.639
<v Speaker 9>I'm going to take you to court and I'm gonna

957
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:26.199
<v Speaker 9>do this, I'm I gonna do that. Won't go for it, okay,

958
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:28.719
<v Speaker 9>But at the end of the day, get that DNA

959
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 9>test first. That is absolutely step one before anything else.

960
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:34.599
<v Speaker 2>And even if he's he is the father, he still

961
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:37.639
<v Speaker 2>has to go to court because they're not married, right.

962
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.480
<v Speaker 9>Right, I mean, if she files something great, the first

963
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 9>thing that you can ask in court for is a

964
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.119
<v Speaker 9>DNA test. And you should ask for a DNA test

965
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:45.920
<v Speaker 9>if you don't know this person and it was a

966
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:50.199
<v Speaker 9>random hookup. I mean, I'm not trying to, you know,

967
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 9>hurt anybody's feelings. I'm not trying to say that anyone

968
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:56.800
<v Speaker 9>is promiscuous or anything like that. But at the end

969
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:58.760
<v Speaker 9>of the day, when it's something you don't know and

970
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:03.480
<v Speaker 9>know nothing about, always, always, always, always ask for DNA tests.

971
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:05.960
<v Speaker 9>And even if you do know him, always, always, always

972
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:06.920
<v Speaker 9>ask for DNA test.

973
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the timeline of events is hard to navigate in

974
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:11.159
<v Speaker 2>those scenarios, and that's really what the issue is.

975
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:12.800
<v Speaker 3>And don't be threatened. I mean, that's the things they're

976
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 3>going to threaten.

977
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 9>They're going to say all sorts of nasty, mean things

978
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.000
<v Speaker 9>to you and threatening with all sorts of things.

979
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:19.920
<v Speaker 3>You still have a right to ask for that DNA

980
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:20.679
<v Speaker 3>test and you should.

981
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Finsley from Hensley Associates is with us. If you

982
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:26.239
<v Speaker 2>don't need a question about family law answered, he can

983
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:27.880
<v Speaker 2>do that right now. A couple ways to get your

984
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:31.480
<v Speaker 2>question to us email show at kmod dot com, call

985
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:33.719
<v Speaker 2>eight three three four to six oh KMOD, or text

986
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 2>bmms and whatever your question is to eight two nine

987
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.000
<v Speaker 2>four five. This one says two weeks ago, my friend

988
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 2>had a protective order filed on him, but he says

989
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:46.079
<v Speaker 2>the last week his future ex wife contacted his mom

990
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 2>to tell him to get his ass down there and

991
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:52.880
<v Speaker 2>sign the divorce papers. Is that a violation of a

992
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.199
<v Speaker 2>protective order? And if it is, is it too late

993
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:56.320
<v Speaker 2>to file anything? Okay?

994
00:55:56.440 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 3>So here's the here's the kicker of protective order.

995
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

996
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.360
<v Speaker 9>And I've had a lot of discussions with different judges

997
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:05.960
<v Speaker 9>in different counties about this issue. So when a person

998
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:10.039
<v Speaker 9>files a protective order against you, all right, they can't

999
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 9>violate their own protective order. Violation means that you are

1000
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:15.880
<v Speaker 9>doing something wrong that would put you in such a

1001
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:18.199
<v Speaker 9>way that there would be potential criminal charges.

1002
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:19.000
<v Speaker 3>File this sort of thing.

1003
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:23.840
<v Speaker 9>So it's not a violation, but it is definitely showing

1004
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:25.960
<v Speaker 9>the court that they're not afraid of certain things. Now,

1005
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:27.800
<v Speaker 9>this one's a little different in the sense that she

1006
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:30.400
<v Speaker 9>went through someone else to get to the message.

1007
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:32.039
<v Speaker 3>She shouldn't be doing that. Okay.

1008
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 9>If you get a protective order, don't be calling you know,

1009
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.239
<v Speaker 9>someone that's related to the other person.

1010
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Or a friend or you know whatever. Don't do that.

1011
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:42.719
<v Speaker 9>If you have a protective order, if you're the one

1012
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 9>that is asked for one, all right, because that's just

1013
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:46.599
<v Speaker 9>going to show the judge that you're not afraid and

1014
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:51.039
<v Speaker 9>that you don't need one. But if you're the person

1015
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:54.320
<v Speaker 9>who has the protective order against you, do not respond. Okay,

1016
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:56.599
<v Speaker 9>even if they try and reach out to you, even

1017
00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:00.960
<v Speaker 9>if they text you, call you email, you do not respond.

1018
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:03.599
<v Speaker 9>Save those things and use it in court to show

1019
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.559
<v Speaker 9>the court that they're not afraid of you. So it's

1020
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 9>not a quote unquote violation, but it is definitely something

1021
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:11.599
<v Speaker 9>to show the court that they're not afraid.

1022
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Is having a protective order? Does that show up on

1023
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:16.199
<v Speaker 2>your criminal.

1024
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Record so it can show up in background checks?

1025
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:21.440
<v Speaker 9>Yes, I mean, if it's on OSCN and it shows

1026
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:24.320
<v Speaker 9>up on background checks unless you get it expunged, it

1027
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.880
<v Speaker 9>will always show up. Now, there are two types of

1028
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.960
<v Speaker 9>protective orders. Okay, there's an emergency one, all right, and

1029
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.719
<v Speaker 9>then there's a permanent protective order. The difference being is

1030
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 9>that when you first go in to get one, it's

1031
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:38.599
<v Speaker 9>an emergency, and then it can turn into a permanent.

1032
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:44.559
<v Speaker 9>Emergencies are not supposed to affect your job or you know,

1033
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 9>applying for jobs in any way. It's not supposed to,

1034
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.880
<v Speaker 9>but permanent ones can. And if you have those, give

1035
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 9>us a call. We'd like to talk to you. I mean,

1036
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.920
<v Speaker 9>if if one's been dismissed, it was permanent and then

1037
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:55.920
<v Speaker 9>it's been dismissed it after a certain amount of time

1038
00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:57.719
<v Speaker 9>and you need to expunge.

1039
00:57:57.320 --> 00:57:58.000
<v Speaker 3>It, give us a call.

1040
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.440
<v Speaker 9>We'd love to help with that expungement so you cannot

1041
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.159
<v Speaker 9>have to worry about messing up your job applications.

1042
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Heinsley from Hensley and Associates is in the studio

1043
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.840
<v Speaker 2>answering your questions about family law. A lot of times

1044
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:12.920
<v Speaker 2>we talk about divorce and custody and child support and

1045
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.639
<v Speaker 2>things like that, but there's also another angle of child

1046
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry of a family law that I don't think

1047
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:19.559
<v Speaker 2>we talk about enough, and it says I've got a

1048
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 2>younger sister who's mentally disabled. She has to be watched constantly.

1049
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:25.760
<v Speaker 2>She was being watched by my grandmother until my grandmother

1050
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:28.599
<v Speaker 2>passed away, and after that she became volatile, and now

1051
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.199
<v Speaker 2>she has to be monitored twenty four to seven because

1052
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.360
<v Speaker 2>she has threatened to kill people and harm herself. We've

1053
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 2>talked about putting her in a home for adults with

1054
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.320
<v Speaker 2>mental disabilities, but she said that she doesn't want to go.

1055
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Does she have the same rights as regular people because

1056
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:44.000
<v Speaker 2>of her condition or does she have to do what

1057
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 2>her legal guardians want her to do?

1058
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:48.840
<v Speaker 9>Well, I mean, if she has legal guardians in place,

1059
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:52.159
<v Speaker 9>guardians that have been appointed by the court, then they're

1060
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:54.440
<v Speaker 9>the ones that make the medical decisions, they're the ones

1061
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:57.760
<v Speaker 9>that make the financial decisions, those kind of things. So

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00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 9>you know, whether she wants to go or not, it's

1063
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:05.079
<v Speaker 9>in the guardian's hands at that point. Now, to have

1064
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:08.880
<v Speaker 9>gotten to the point where there's a guardian in place

1065
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:12.480
<v Speaker 9>for an adult disabled, per individual with mental health or

1066
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:15.480
<v Speaker 9>whatever it may be, obviously there has got to have

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00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:19.039
<v Speaker 9>been at some point some showing to the court typically

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00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.360
<v Speaker 9>that the person is unable to make those decisions on

1069
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:28.480
<v Speaker 9>their own. So if this individual is such that she

1070
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:31.320
<v Speaker 9>is not able to make those decisions, it sounds like

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00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 9>the court made that determination during the guardianship process.

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00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:36.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean whoever this is, I'd have to give us

1073
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:36.719
<v Speaker 3>a call.

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00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:38.440
<v Speaker 9>I'd love to ask a few more questions, but the

1075
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:40.840
<v Speaker 9>basic just is if they've already proved to the court

1076
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:43.360
<v Speaker 9>that she's not able to make her own decisions, then

1077
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:45.679
<v Speaker 9>it would be the guardian's decision as to what happens

1078
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:48.199
<v Speaker 9>to her and where she goes and things like that.

1079
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:50.679
<v Speaker 2>What happens to somebody who has a guardianship, like in

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00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 2>this example where the grandmother was sounded like the grandmother

1081
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:57.079
<v Speaker 2>was in charge and then she passes, does someone else

1082
00:59:57.119 --> 00:59:57.920
<v Speaker 2>have to step up?

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00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:00.400
<v Speaker 9>Or yeah, absolutely, somebody else has to step in and

1084
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:04.320
<v Speaker 9>become guardian at that particular juncture. So you know, guardianship

1085
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 9>terminates upon death of either individual. And if grandma was

1086
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:13.320
<v Speaker 9>the guardian and she passed away and so, then somebody

1087
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:16.360
<v Speaker 9>else has to file with the guardianship court to say, look,

1088
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:18.719
<v Speaker 9>so and so has passed away, the individual needs a

1089
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:21.599
<v Speaker 9>new guardian, and I'm stepping in so and maybe that's happened.

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01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:23.840
<v Speaker 2>We just don't know what happens in that influx time

1091
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:27.440
<v Speaker 2>between the person passing away till the proceedings where the

1092
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:29.440
<v Speaker 2>person is deemed the next caretaker.

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01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean at that particular juncture.

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01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:35.079
<v Speaker 9>If the guardianship is terminated, then that person is their

1095
01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:39.800
<v Speaker 9>own legal decision maker and things like that, whether they're

1096
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:42.440
<v Speaker 9>able to or not. And so that's why you know,

1097
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:44.760
<v Speaker 9>at that juncture, if someone has passed away, we'd probably

1098
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:47.360
<v Speaker 9>move in on some sort of emergency to show the court,

1099
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:51.360
<v Speaker 9>I mean, depending upon the level of incapacity that the

1100
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:54.280
<v Speaker 9>person has, moving with the court and say look, the

1101
01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:57.159
<v Speaker 9>guardian has passed away. We need someone in right away.

1102
01:00:57.199 --> 01:00:58.880
<v Speaker 9>And so you know, try to get that done as soon.

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01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:02.239
<v Speaker 2>As possible with us of Hinsley Associates. You can email

1104
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:05.360
<v Speaker 2>us show at kmod dot com. You can text BMMS

1105
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:07.199
<v Speaker 2>and whatever your question is to eight two nine four

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01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:09.559
<v Speaker 2>five or call eight three three four six ozho KMOD.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an interesting one we've never gotten before either.

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01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Is this right? DHS refused to modify my hold support

1109
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 2>after I got a new job. I'm making seven k

1110
01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:21.840
<v Speaker 2>less than I was and they said it doesn't meet

1111
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:25.519
<v Speaker 2>the modification standard. Also, I have two bonus kids that

1112
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I have been taking care of for five years. Me

1113
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and their mother are married, but I have not adopted

1114
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.440
<v Speaker 2>them yet. DHS says I can't add them because I

1115
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:39.280
<v Speaker 2>haven't adopted them. Yet DHS also said I can't ask

1116
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:41.960
<v Speaker 2>for a modigan for twelve months, just seeing what I

1117
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.079
<v Speaker 2>can do and if this is right or not.

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01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:47.599
<v Speaker 9>Okay, so let's do the easiest one first. The easiest

1119
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 9>one is the bonus kids. You don't get a modification

1120
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:52.079
<v Speaker 9>on them. You can't count them because they are not

1121
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:55.559
<v Speaker 9>biological children between you and your new wife. Okay, that's

1122
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:59.360
<v Speaker 9>just not allowed. Unfortunately, the law does not contemplate that.

1123
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:02.400
<v Speaker 9>And again, if you have a problem with that, please

1124
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 9>call your legislator for your district, who can make those

1125
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.880
<v Speaker 9>changes down in Oklahoma City. Now the other parts of it.

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01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:16.119
<v Speaker 9>If his income has changed, there's no reason why they

1127
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 9>in my opinion, again, there may be something here we

1128
01:02:18.519 --> 01:02:20.559
<v Speaker 9>don't know, so please, who are this is? Understand? I

1129
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:23.639
<v Speaker 9>can only answer based upon what you sent us. What

1130
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:25.840
<v Speaker 9>you're telling me, at least in this position is is

1131
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:28.320
<v Speaker 9>that if your income has changed and you're making less

1132
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:30.840
<v Speaker 9>than you were before, you still have a right to

1133
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:36.000
<v Speaker 9>a modification. Whoever this is, please call our office. I'd

1134
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:38.119
<v Speaker 9>love for you to talk to our attorneys and tell

1135
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:40.960
<v Speaker 9>us a little more because I can't say reason as

1136
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:43.119
<v Speaker 9>to why DHS would not go ahead and allow a

1137
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.880
<v Speaker 9>modification to happen unless there's something else again that we

1138
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:50.840
<v Speaker 9>don't know, some other issue that's involved. As far as

1139
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.480
<v Speaker 9>asking for one in twelve months, the law is is

1140
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:57.280
<v Speaker 9>that if your income has changed at any point, even

1141
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.039
<v Speaker 9>if it's less than twelve months, you can ask for

1142
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:03.119
<v Speaker 9>that modification. So in this case, if you've got let's

1143
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:06.159
<v Speaker 9>say it was modified, and then in three months you've

1144
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:08.280
<v Speaker 9>got a job where you're making more making less, you

1145
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:12.039
<v Speaker 9>can still ask for another modification. Modifications can be done anytime.

1146
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.119
<v Speaker 9>Now understand, they don't have to be done in DHS

1147
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:16.840
<v Speaker 9>Administrative court either. That's why you want to give us

1148
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:19.000
<v Speaker 9>a call so we can file it in district court

1149
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 9>and have it modified in district court if DHS Administrative

1150
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.119
<v Speaker 9>Court is not working with you in some way, so

1151
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:26.679
<v Speaker 9>please give us a call. Love to hear a little

1152
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:28.840
<v Speaker 9>bit more on this. But from what you're telling us,

1153
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:31.400
<v Speaker 9>other than not adding your bonus.

1154
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Kids, can't do that. That's not allowed.

1155
01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.320
<v Speaker 9>If you had a baby with your new wife, you could,

1156
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 9>but not bonus kids. Otherwise, there's no reason from what

1157
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:42.400
<v Speaker 9>you're telling us right here anyway, that there can't be

1158
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:43.039
<v Speaker 9>a modification.

1159
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Finsley's with us from Hensley and associates, and it

1160
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:47.119
<v Speaker 2>looks like we got a phone call. Good morning, you're

1161
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:47.440
<v Speaker 2>on the air.

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01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.639
<v Speaker 10>What is your name, Fley?

1163
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Andrew? What's your question for? Jeff Finsley.

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01:03:55.960 --> 01:04:03.000
<v Speaker 10>Okay, So I was imprison We was married, but she

1165
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:07.199
<v Speaker 10>had a kid, two of them. Actually this was eight

1166
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:12.280
<v Speaker 10>years ago. I just got a settlement. They took fourteen

1167
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:16.480
<v Speaker 10>thousand dollars for back child'sport. Okay, that's how I found

1168
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:21.079
<v Speaker 10>out about this. The children are not mine. I'm white,

1169
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 10>she's white. They're Mexican. She says openly that I'm not

1170
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:30.400
<v Speaker 10>the father. They're garnishing my checks right now, right.

1171
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<v Speaker 9>And legally they can do that because any kids born

1172
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:37.199
<v Speaker 9>during a marriage, whether you're together physically or not, those

1173
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.840
<v Speaker 9>kids are legally yours. You were on the hook legally

1174
01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:42.800
<v Speaker 9>for them until they turn eighteen or age out. So

1175
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.840
<v Speaker 9>whether she had kids or not while you were in prison,

1176
01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.079
<v Speaker 9>if you're still married, those kids are legally yours and

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01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:52.800
<v Speaker 9>you're on the hook financially for them.

1178
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<v Speaker 3>That's the law in Oklahoma.

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01:04:54.920 --> 01:05:01.079
<v Speaker 10>Unfortunately, we've been divorced for the kids were maybe a

1180
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:05.320
<v Speaker 10>year old. I got out and got the divorce.

1181
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.559
<v Speaker 9>Right, but they were born during the time you were married.

1182
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:12.119
<v Speaker 9>And if they were born during the time you were married,

1183
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.639
<v Speaker 9>they are still legally yours and you are legally financially

1184
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:18.719
<v Speaker 9>responsible for them. Does she have somebody else that they

1185
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.840
<v Speaker 9>that that calls them, that the kids called dad, or

1186
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:23.960
<v Speaker 9>the dad that somebody that holds them out as their

1187
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:24.519
<v Speaker 9>own kids?

1188
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:30.280
<v Speaker 10>Another dude, She's not with anybody right now that I

1189
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 10>know of. But they know that their they know who

1190
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:33.480
<v Speaker 10>their dad is.

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01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 3>Right, I understand that. But the basic gist of it

1192
01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:38.400
<v Speaker 3>is is that if.

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01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:42.280
<v Speaker 9>The kids were born during the marriage, Okay, were these kids.

1194
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:45.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm stuttering, were.

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01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 9>These kids addressed in the decree when you got a divorce,

1196
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:49.079
<v Speaker 9>when you got out?

1197
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:55.400
<v Speaker 3>In other words, that the decree say anything about.

1198
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:59.519
<v Speaker 10>These kids, not that I'm aware of.

1199
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:04.159
<v Speaker 9>Okay, here's what you said your name earlier. I'm gonna

1200
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:08.119
<v Speaker 9>give it to my staff if you will call my office. Okay,

1201
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:09.800
<v Speaker 9>Corbyn is going to give out the number here at

1202
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:11.960
<v Speaker 9>the end of the segment. Call my office and we'll

1203
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:13.440
<v Speaker 9>set you up to talk to one of my attorneys.

1204
01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:16.280
<v Speaker 9>You've got something going on and there might be a

1205
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:18.199
<v Speaker 9>way out, but we need I need a little more information,

1206
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:20.079
<v Speaker 9>and we're kind of short on time here on the air,

1207
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:22.719
<v Speaker 9>so please give us a call once you hear the

1208
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:30.079
<v Speaker 9>number that Corbyn gives later. Okay, yes, we're in Tulsa.

1209
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.000
<v Speaker 10>Okay, so even if I missed the number, I can,

1210
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:33.840
<v Speaker 10>I can look you up.

1211
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Yep, absolutely, just look up Pinsley Associates. Okay, Okay, all right,

1212
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:42.039
<v Speaker 2>all right, buddy, good luck, all right, see you later.

1213
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:45.360
<v Speaker 2>We bring this up all the time. Yeah, and it's

1214
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.920
<v Speaker 2>still people aren't aware that if you have a person

1215
01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:51.840
<v Speaker 2>in your life that you were married to and you

1216
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:55.119
<v Speaker 2>are no longer together and they get pregnant and have

1217
01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:57.719
<v Speaker 2>a child, you are not divorced those kids. That is

1218
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:00.320
<v Speaker 2>your child, regardless if he can prove he wasn't with her.

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01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:03.440
<v Speaker 9>It doesn't matter me. It doesn't matter if they know

1220
01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:05.480
<v Speaker 9>who their dad is. That it doesn't matter if they

1221
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:07.719
<v Speaker 9>know that you're not the dad. I mean, from a

1222
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.360
<v Speaker 9>legal standpoint, in the state of Oklahoma and most states,

1223
01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:13.559
<v Speaker 9>you are legally dad, which means you are legally responsible

1224
01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:16.760
<v Speaker 9>for them, for child support and everything else until they

1225
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:17.280
<v Speaker 9>age out.

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01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.400
<v Speaker 3>So you know, if you've got that situation, give us

1227
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:20.719
<v Speaker 3>a call.

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<v Speaker 9>There are alternatives potentially, but that's when we need more facts.

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01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that an out of date law or is that

1230
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:30.400
<v Speaker 2>the legislator's going, hey, somebody's got to be the dad

1231
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:31.079
<v Speaker 2>in the scenario.

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01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:33.800
<v Speaker 9>I think I don't necessarily think it's an out of

1233
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.880
<v Speaker 9>date like. You have to understand, Oklahoma and most states

1234
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:39.840
<v Speaker 9>are very much about kids need to be taken care of.

1235
01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:43.199
<v Speaker 9>People shouldn't be able to get off easy. I mean,

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01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 9>forty fifty years ago you used to be able to

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01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:48.440
<v Speaker 9>sign your rights away in Oklahoma. You can't do that anymore.

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01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.039
<v Speaker 9>You haven't been able to do that for decades. The

1239
01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:53.519
<v Speaker 9>idea behind it is is somebody has to be responsible

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01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:55.519
<v Speaker 9>for these kids. Somebody's going to help pay for them

1241
01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:57.880
<v Speaker 9>because a lot of times, not all, but a lot

1242
01:07:57.880 --> 01:07:59.519
<v Speaker 9>of times these kids are on sooner care. So their

1243
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:03.199
<v Speaker 9>states involved, which means there's state money being used, which

1244
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 9>means somebody's got to pay for it because our state

1245
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:12.199
<v Speaker 9>is you know, poor for whatever reason, legislature, governor whatever.

1246
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:16.920
<v Speaker 9>So with that being said, the idea is that somebody

1247
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:19.239
<v Speaker 9>has to pay and so that's I don't think it's

1248
01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:20.760
<v Speaker 9>an out of date law. I think it's a law

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01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.159
<v Speaker 9>designed to make sure that children are taken care of.

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01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Does it need to be changed to have an exclusion

1251
01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:27.279
<v Speaker 2>like in this scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean that's the thing is is that maybe?

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<v Speaker 9>But again, as I always said, since we've been doing this,

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<v Speaker 9>your local legislator, whoever that is in the state House

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<v Speaker 9>or the state Senate, they are the ones that have

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<v Speaker 9>the ability to make the change. Okay, we just had

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<v Speaker 9>a bunch of primaries and all that other stuff. Okay,

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<v Speaker 9>you have the physical ability to control who is going

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<v Speaker 9>to be represented, and if you don't like the way

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<v Speaker 9>the laws are, talk to them.

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<v Speaker 3>They're the ones that can change it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Finsley from Hensland Associates is with us. Last text

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<v Speaker 2>we got here says, can I modify out support if

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<v Speaker 2>my income doesn't change, but if my expenses change? I e.

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<v Speaker 2>Wife is a stay at home mom, so I'm paying

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<v Speaker 2>bill all bills, car payments, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>Nope, it doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 9>It's income change only the state doesn't care about your bills.

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<v Speaker 9>They just don't. I mean, the courts don't care about

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<v Speaker 9>your bills. The fact that because the idea and I'm

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<v Speaker 9>not trying to be harsh, it's just this is how

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<v Speaker 9>it's looked at. Is is that the idea that you

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<v Speaker 9>chose to take on more debt or to get married

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<v Speaker 9>to somebody who's not working, or to buy a bunch

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<v Speaker 9>of stuff and not have money, that's your fault. The

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<v Speaker 9>way the state looks at it. Again, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 9>be harsh. This is just how judges and the state

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<v Speaker 9>looks at it. They look at it as children come first,

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<v Speaker 9>before you start buying stuff or getting involved with people

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<v Speaker 9>who don't work. You have to pay your chial and

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<v Speaker 9>support child support first and foremost. So Unfortunately, just because

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<v Speaker 9>your expense is change, that is not a reason for

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<v Speaker 9>modification in the state of Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>These things can be really complicated, and it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to adult guardianships, those are even more

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<v Speaker 2>complicated and canby That's why you need to have somebody

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<v Speaker 2>help you that knows the laws and knows the navigation.

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<v Speaker 2>We have people call all the time ask about DHS.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably the biggest argument I would give on why

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<v Speaker 2>you need to hire Hensland Associates because they work with

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<v Speaker 2>those people all the time. They know how to speak

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<v Speaker 2>correct LINGO and get in with them and get things

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<v Speaker 2>taken care of. Absolutely, so it doesn't matter if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a DHS scenario, or it's a custody issue, or it's

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<v Speaker 2>an adult guardianship issue. The folks at Hinsland Associates are

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<v Speaker 2>there to help and you should call them three nine

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<v Speaker 2>eight five six nine two nine eight three nine eight

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<v Speaker 2>five six ninety two for Hinslean Associates and life can

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<v Speaker 2>throw your curveballs and you might find yourself in trouble

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<v Speaker 2>in other areas of law, and the folks a Hinsland

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<v Speaker 2>Associates can help with that as well.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely so, anything in addition to famul law. If you've

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<v Speaker 9>got something like a dui that you've been pulled over

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<v Speaker 9>by the cops for whatever reason, for drinking and driving

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<v Speaker 9>or drugs and driving. If you've got something as mundane

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<v Speaker 9>as a beating ticket all the way up, or if

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<v Speaker 9>you've got an issue where let's say probate, where you've

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<v Speaker 9>got somebody who's passed away that needs a will dealt with,

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01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:10.079
<v Speaker 9>or you need a trust or a will or something

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<v Speaker 9>like that drafted up. Literally anything in addition to family

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01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:14.640
<v Speaker 9>law we can help you with through our office in Pasca.

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<v Speaker 9>Give Leah a call up at Shoemake Law Firm. That

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<v Speaker 9>is our firm up there. If you can't remember her

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<v Speaker 9>name or its name, give us a call a Hinsley

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<v Speaker 9>and we will get you transferred up there. But literally

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<v Speaker 9>anything in addition to family law we can help you with,

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<v Speaker 9>and we'd love to help you out.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine eight three nine eight five six nine three nine

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<v Speaker 2>eight five six ninety two for Hinsley Associates mentioned km

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<v Speaker 2>O D get a free consultation over the phone nine

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<v Speaker 2>eight three nine eight five six nine two for hinsleand Associates. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>have a great week.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey too, Thanks you're listening to the Big Mad Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling Lindsay this morning there were two well

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<v Speaker 2>there was a couple crazy stories, but two specific crazy

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<v Speaker 2>stories that I wanted to bring up. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>them happened at the Quick Trip up North at seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five and twenty and a altercation, a disagreement happened between

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<v Speaker 2>a man and a woman. And the details I know

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<v Speaker 2>is that the man got in his car, drove over

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<v Speaker 2>the woman and killed her. Oh Jesus, and then drove

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<v Speaker 2>off and they had to chase him down. And she,

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<v Speaker 2>if I remember correctly, she was a mother of seven. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>And I have no idea what exactly happened. Hopefully he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like I'm gonna run you down, and he just

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<v Speaker 2>there was some confusion, and right, it wasn't premeditated. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a big difference between like I'm gonna run

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<v Speaker 2>you over with my car. I told you to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of the way type of chaos and you're like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out of here and then just back up speed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you guys been watching Dutton Ranch? No? I try,

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<v Speaker 2>I say, I asked, because one of the characters that's

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<v Speaker 2>on there, of course, you know how they do what

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<v Speaker 2>they go to the prison, they find somebody to go,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah or whatever. One of the characters on there, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's why he went to prison drunk one night, got

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<v Speaker 2>in a fight with this old lady or whatever, went

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<v Speaker 2>to get in the truck, backed up, didn't realize she

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<v Speaker 2>was behind him, and ended up doing the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>and ended up spending time in the big house. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And I say, I hope only because

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<v Speaker 2>not that it lessens the death of this person, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but only because it makes it not so heinous that

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<v Speaker 2>the world is filled with that hate you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>think the right, No, I know, but just a tragic

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<v Speaker 2>story for that family, yeah, right, just crazy. The other

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<v Speaker 2>chaotic story involves a old like a retirement house like

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<v Speaker 2>an old folks place, okay, and their grandson came to

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<v Speaker 2>visit them and stabbed the grandpa. She grabs the phone,

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<v Speaker 2>calls nine to one one and while they're talking to her,

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<v Speaker 2>he stabs her. Oh Jesus, and the line goes silent.

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<v Speaker 2>And they ended up catching up with the kid because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a kid, and he admitted to it. Damn yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I am the police. Like, I went and checked the

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<v Speaker 2>video of the surveillance of the old folks home and

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<v Speaker 2>the staff was like, yep, that's their grandson. Oh so

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<v Speaker 2>this happened at the nursing home, at the old folks home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not like you old folks right, right, I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>happened at their house. No home like Porridge right and Bunko.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just trying to live out the rest of their

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<v Speaker 2>days peacefully. I don't know. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 2>peacefully there, but I hear your point that that definitely isn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and just the idea that I don't know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if people just don't think there's consequences or I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to say video games, but like there's no

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<v Speaker 2>real consequence in a video game. No, And so you

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand consequences. Hey, you hit the button, start all

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<v Speaker 2>over again. I don't want to think that that's the case.

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<v Speaker 2>But you never know anymore. Man, I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna start saying this. Let your kids play with hammers, right,

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<v Speaker 2>let them, let them play with hammers. Let them realize

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<v Speaker 2>hammers break things. They can smash your finger, right, they're

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<v Speaker 2>really dangerous. Yeah, let them let them. Let them burn

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<v Speaker 2>their hand on the stove a few times. That feels

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<v Speaker 2>a little child abuseless. But I hear what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But letting it play with hammers hammer's not indicative that

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<v Speaker 2>the stove is like you're physically well. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>you put their hand on the stove. You just let

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<v Speaker 2>let them touch it. Let don't touch it. It only

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<v Speaker 2>takes about maybe twice three times for the slow ones

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<v Speaker 2>in the back. I don't know how many times have

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<v Speaker 2>you burnt your hand on the stove exactly. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>are lesson learners, some people aren't. That's why I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for the slow ones in the back, me included.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, that family, they lost two people, like two

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<v Speaker 2>sets of people, right, they lost their son and they

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<v Speaker 2>lost the grandparents because that kid's going to jail forever. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just never understood how somebody can do that to

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<v Speaker 2>their own parents or grandparents, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's just me I was I was taught to

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<v Speaker 2>respect the elders. Yeah right, yeah, no matter who they are,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're older than you, you respect them. And by

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<v Speaker 2>respect that doesn't mean stab them with the knife. No. No,

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<v Speaker 2>to be fair, I have stabbed my brother and he

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<v Speaker 2>is older than me, but he stabbed me first, granted

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<v Speaker 2>they were years apart. Well, I'm just gonna quote a

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<v Speaker 2>line from m clarence has real nice parents, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you that you have good parents. Not everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>that lucky. Not everybody has really nice and loving people

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<v Speaker 2>in their lives, and they have people that abuse them physically, mentally, sexually,

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of people around them in other ways, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're just not nice people. I wonder if this particular case,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's the other part of the story that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about, right with the grandparents, Like, was was

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<v Speaker 2>there any kind of abuse? I'm not saying that it

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<v Speaker 2>justifies it, but it's kind of okay, I get it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't get that. I'm not a big

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<v Speaker 2>fan of vigilante justice, right, nor am I? But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean if you were, if you were abused sexually, physically

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever as a child, or however long this goes on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, people snap, wouldn't you if it went on

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<v Speaker 2>for so long? I don't know. No amount of therapy

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<v Speaker 2>can help you out. Yeah, I'm not a defender of snapping.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, And he was safe from them? Now, they weren't

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<v Speaker 6>a home.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not prison, it's not prison. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>know his parents didn't force him, right? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>know those people abuse their dad and their dad passed

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<v Speaker 2>it on.

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Being an old folks home is hardly safe. Hey, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to Grandpa's room. I want to show you some

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<v Speaker 2>Pope Poia guide. I don't know what people show people

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<v Speaker 2>at old folksongs. I'm just imagining. I'll show you the

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<v Speaker 2>painting not painted. All right, there you go, Still got porridge,

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<v Speaker 2>still got rice pudding from dinner. Yeah, to me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a defender of snapping. You still have a responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>at core values to not harm individual even when things

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<v Speaker 2>are hard. Yeah, I guess you're right. I guess I

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01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:10.079
<v Speaker 2>know you don't ever play cards with me I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>read it every time you have a tell yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>eyes rolling right. No, I don't have any cards. My

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01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:23.520
<v Speaker 2>hand is crap. I'm just gonna put money in here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what. How do you play this game?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got to take a break. We'll be back.