Speaker 1: What is up? Fellow Siko's I Am Dana Valley coming
at you with another episode of the fan Fabulous Hardwoodknos podcast.
It will not be joined by Grant Hughes again this time,
but I will once again be speaking with mort ste Gensen.
He covered the NBA for Yaki Sports Forbes, as well
as the NBA podcast Go check them out. We did
a bunch of home and homes this week. This conversation
was his idea and ended up taking us in some
interesting places. We covered the Yannis attend to Kompo rumors
that the Rockets might have interest. A report later came
out from Kellyikov the Athletic that the Rockets aren't interested.
We know how this stuff works, but we didn't talk
about Yannis to the Rockets specifically. He ended up asking
an interesting question of would you trade Cooper Flag for
Yannis attend to Kompo and the answer would vary by team.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: We went through a bunch of different teams that could
potentially end up with a lottery picker that we thought
were like, not likely. But you know, if we're not
going to talk about the you know, the Boston Celtics
having a lottery.
Speaker 2: Pick for instance.
Speaker 1: They're not going to be included in this, and it
ended up being an interesting exercise. I think you will
enjoy the discussion. Very quickly. Before we get started, Grant
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get to talking and asking an overarching question and this
will be time stamped if you want to get through
the initial, y honest news of it all, which NBA
teams would trade Cooper flag for Yannis attend to Komba.
Speaker 2: All right, Dan, we have to get into some rumors
because obviously the Milwaukee Bucks are well. They're doing as
well as one could imagine after you hire Doc Rivers
and Darvin Ham to be on your bench. Basically, Giannis
obviously is the big one. Everyone is trying to trade
him away and the Rockets have expressed interest. So before
we get into like the trade aspect of it all,
and I've said this before. But I want to hadle
to rate myself on this one. I think you'd be
absolutely looney Tunes to go in and make a Yanis
trade before you make a change on the bench. Like
I fully recognize, right like, but it's still like I
fully recognize the problem at hand. I fully recognize there
are very very few ways for this Bucks team to
even get better because of where they are salary wise,
because of their assets, all of which are basically better
for them playing instead of like as trade assets. But
I would never be able to sell it to my
fan base, sell it to my to my fans worldwide.
If I traded the best player I've ever had on
my team before I fired Doc Rivers, it would feel
dirty and it would feel wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm of the mind you don't trade Yannis,
and unless Yannis asked for out, and if you because
at that point it's if Doc Rivers are still on
the bench. You could say, well, if we fire Doc
without change your mind, he might just say no, So
that that is it's not it's Yannis. If I'm Milwaukee,
I'm not trading Giannis unless Yannis wants it. And but
if you had to say, oh, are there any teams
that could come in and make them think about going
to be honest and saying, hey, are you married to
this situation? Like are you If there's any team that
could make them be proactive, I would say it's Houston
or it's Oklahoma City basically and honestly, I think you
can make a case for the Pelicans just because if
you get control over not this season, although the ceasons
draft pick might matter, it's top four protect like New
Orleans only get New Orleans only gets it if it's
in the top four, I think, But like they can
give you control back of your next two draft picks. Maybe,
so maybe you throw New Orleans in there, but just
in a vacuum, the Rockets and the thunder have enough
stuff to come calling for the Bucks to think. But
again you have to compare that to the reality of
this is the Nets with mchal Bridges. The Knicks probably
gave them enough to have them trade mcal Bridges no
matter what. But if they weren't already getting control of
their next two first round picks back from New York
from excuse me, from Houston, if that wasn't lined up,
do they still make the McHale bridges trade. So that's
what's also difficult about this entire situation.
Speaker 2: But even if Gyannis comes in and says I want
to trade, the Bucks can also point to his contract
and say, well, technically we have you under contract for
the next two seasons beyond this one. Like if I'm
the Bucks, I wouldn't be in a rush. Like if
Yannis calls for like a mid season trade, I'm just
selling him no, straight up, because you can get more
for someone like him during the course of summer than
you can which so.
Speaker 1: A Yanni's trade I would be. We don't get shocked
much anymore in hashbag this league. If he was traded
mid season, that I would be flabbergasted.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look, we're so every single year I
do like this Danish stream of the trade deadline, Like
we we rent out an indoor basketball court, installed cameras
and whatnot, and over the past couple of years we
haven't really had, like, you know, a big ass trade
where we can all just lose our ship. This would
do it, like if it came like now, especially like
if it's an hour before deadline or a few minutes
before the deadline, like just make it exciting for the
NBA as I'm watching that, as I'm covering that whole thing.
But no, like I just I don't think they should
be in a rush, like obviously if they do talk
to Giannis and honest is just like, no, no, there's
no way in hell I'm staying. I'm out, I'm mentally done,
I'm checked out, and there's just no way you can
get out of it. It's so crucial to nail that
trade in the summer, like you cannot make, you know,
a Alex Crusoe for Josh Kiddy trade where you get
something in return but not enough. You have to maximize that,
maximize that value because you have no value elsewhere. I mean, look,
let's be real here, what is it Chris Middleton going
to give you on a trade market right now?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Damn thing? It's unavailable. He hasn't played at Conotton. Really.
Bobby Port is like, there's there isn't that one guy
out there that's gonna give you an absolute ton of
assets in return. Dame is on a deal that is
very handsomely rewarded. Is he about to make that, you know,
small guard decline. It certainly feels like he's inching closer
to it. Would I, as an opponent sitting team give
up the farm for Damian Lillard H thirty four to
thirty five. I don't know. So that starts with that,
Like if Rihannis comes to him and it's game over,
you have to absolutely nail nail that trade, and you
set the name that's Oklahoma. You don't think it's Houston
with just the it's the draft picks. Man, if the
draft picks and it's the young place, because you have
to ask for Jaylen Williams in return, you need the
blue chip prospect and you need all of the draft picks.
Speaker 1: See, I would argue that Houston is better for Milwaukee
now whether Johannes is what Houston needs when you have
Shanggun and Amen Thompson's there, But if you're Milwaukee, you
could get or ask like I would argue this way,
like there are maybe more poachable blue chip prospects in
Houston than Okase at this moment because Okacy is close
to its final form and they're contending for a title.
Whereas if you're Houston, you look at it and say,
could you envision this? Like they're they would give up
at least one of Amen Jabbari or Reed Shepherd for Gianness.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, no, it's it's attractive, But is it attractive?
Is as Jalen Williams if you can get.
Speaker 1: Him, that's interesting because the Bucks don't have their own picks,
and so just Jalen Williams, you're worried about competing immediately,
But that's also to me why Okay, So Jalen Williams
is the best of any of the names we just
mentioned right now, unless you're getting a Shanng Goon in
the off season, which I don't think Houston would. I
probably wouldn't listen to it, just because he's so important
for setting up everybody else. And that's not Yannis can
do it, but it's not the driving force of the
entire offense. No, but Houston has Like, well, you're working
about other money going out. Milwaukee still wants to be better,
like you have Brooks and you have Van Vliet, and
it's probably mean, like Van Fleet's making so much money
you'd almost not want it to beat him because Milwaukee
can back so much money like you have Brooks. So
you have another impact player there and it's okay, okay,
see has lou Dort. But like if you can get
two of Houston's like if would they give up two
of Aman Thompson, Reed Shepherd and Jabbari for Giannis plus
Brooks And then you're filling out money elsewhere with other
deals plus picks or whatever again I don't know.
Speaker 2: Then then then I agree, then I agree, Then then
the stands. Then the contrast is starting to swing in
favor of Houston.
Speaker 1: But if it's okay, see though, by the way, like
what is the like I don't even know what the
complexion of that deal looks like because it's they like,
so I guess you have to trade Hartenstein in that scenario,
who is your big salary or like Williams lou Dort,
And then I guess a handful of other smaller ones
like I guess that makes it work plus all the picks.
Speaker 2: No hard Hardenstein, for sure, but I mean you could
you can get away with that, I mean you can
get away with his front line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would probably prefer I love Jay Dubb,
but I would probably prefer what Houston could give me
emmy aggregate, because they still they if they don't want
to give those sons picks up right, Like that's super interesting?
You really want a Galaxy brain. This more is, could
either of these teams, in anticipation of this, go out
and try and get those Bucks picks from from the
Pelicans and now you have those sitting in the clip.
Speaker 2: That'd be interesting.
Speaker 1: Now if I'm if I'm the Pelicans, I probably don't
want to do that because even if you trade, like
if you trade Giannis and you get Jay Dubb or
you get a collection of whatever Houston's offering, I mean,
there's a chance the Bucks could still be bad. Like
what if Damian Miller decides he wants out at that
point or he falls off a cliff so.
Speaker 2: They don't control their own pick. Yeah, yeah, no, that
might be it though. That might be what the Bucks
could be telling teams like, find a way to get
our picks back, then we'll talk.
Speaker 1: Which is then at that point though, like if you're
in New Orleans, well why are you doing that? Because
so New Orleans gets because the other half of it
it's in Minnesota, now right, No, that's not Brooklyn has
it if it's outside the top four, and then New
Orleans gets it if it's inside the top four. In
twenty twenty five, so if you're in Milwaukee, there actually
might be value, some value in getting like Okay, we
could try and be bad enough to get it back
like in two thousand and like get it back now.
But you're looking at New Orleans has the right to
swap in twenty six, and then they also have the
Bucks's twenty twenty seven pick outright to a New Orleans
as well. So like those are the two picks that
are a big deal because we're assuming this trade isn't
gonna happen this season anyway, now, if you want to
happen mid season, I would still say, is there anything
New Orleans could do to get the back end of
like that Bucks protections back from Brooklyn? Or is there
could another team get the whole life? So but that
would be if that's what Waukee's telling people. I honestly
think that's smart, by the way, by the Bucks front
office if that's But that's what would make the offer
truly interesting, is if you could take because New Orleans
in a vacuum, like if they came calling with Zion
and your draft picks back, Like do you think about it?
Speaker 2: You think about it? Yeah, absolutely, you think about it.
Even though I I just wrote a long piece or
of Yahoo about basically how difficult sign is to build around.
And I used Gianni's as a kind of comparison point
because at least Gianna's, you know, he's got the height,
he's got the length, he's got the defensive capabilities, where
Sion is a six ' six power forward who really
can't play center, who really can't play the three was
very pitch and told into a position. So are the
Bucks aware of that? Or are we just going to assume, Well,
the Bucks are smart enough to hire Doc Rivers so
they might see the value.
Speaker 1: Could you also go the other route? Again? I don't
know what this looks like, Jannis and Zion together, but
it's it's gonna be. There'll be other money involved, but
it's yeah, randon Ingram and your picks back. Maybe you're
getting some New Orleans picks tacked on that too, And.
Speaker 2: I hate that idea. I hate the idea together.
Speaker 1: Have you had enough shooting? I mean, look at who's ions.
So Zion's playing alongside Steven adamson. If that's just your
front court, you'll figure out what they made it work
with Steven Adams and Yonis Valnunis just as like off
off rip just to name the past, like two primary
Peblican centers, and yeah, those guys are good, they're not
excellent compliment? Is is Yannis a worst compliment to Zion
than any of those guys? And I think you.
Speaker 2: Can what's that They'll have to average like eighty pain points?
Speaker 1: Okay you there's not onely two guys that could do it.
It's those two. And Giannis want is he shooting like
ninety percent from mid range this year? So hashtag four spacing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look the cleaner fit. You brought him
up the thunder as well. I mean, let's just be
real about this. Even if somehow they finagle a trade
without JDub, which would be amazing, I just don't see it.
Shaye dead Yannis is It's ridiculous, That's what it is.
It's ridiculous. I I don't see how that wouldn't be
of interest for it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just so the thing that I think, Okayse
needs the most is a second primary shot creator. And
there's ye, there's a chance it's healthy chat, but like
there isn't there a better chance what they need in
a playoff setting would be the player you want Jadub
to become rather than Yannis right now because he's not.
I know, he's shooting well from mid range this year,
but like that is a very paint oriented shot creator
who's not going to create a ton of advantages like Yues.
Collapsing defense is the past. Giannie is no worse than
the third best player back. But I love how you're
breaking I love how you're breaking that down, Like, are
we really sure that they'd be good? I love it
they'd be great, But does it do you think it's? Like,
does it answer their bigger Their defense is already this
no worse relative to the league avers and the second
best all time, So does it really are they better? Probably?
But would you I would still just wonder about the offense,
especially look check volume chet Holmgren's three point volumes. All
of a sudden, I guess that when he's healthy has
to come way up with gianness because it wasn't super
houd to begin with, and so then you're also shrinking
during the y honest minutes, some of maybe the most
intriguing like independent elements of his game. You have to
consider it. I want to make it clear, but it's
sort of like if you're if you're Okay, see, I
know this isn't the exercise you asked for. Is there? Like,
could you give up enough to New Orleans to get
those at least those two bucks picked back? Because New
Orleans has the flexibility to make a Yannis trade without
including any one of their top three players. Okay, see
excuse me.
Speaker 2: Right, Orleans will have not a leverage there because they
know what the end game is gonna look like.
Speaker 1: That's why, because they don't have Like Isaiah, Joe would
make a lot of sense in New Orleans. But it's
that's that plus picks. I think it's not going to
get a pick at this this juncture. So that would
be the like case in Wallace could maybe be interesting,
but they so well he.
Speaker 2: Would be interesting, Yeah, he would be interesting. He's good,
he's out.
Speaker 1: Would you give up Alex Caruso and picks to get
up some bucks picks back? Like, but from New Orleans' perspective,
now you're you're really doubling down on the the or
I mean we can go we're really galaxy brain this stuff.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: The trade restriction lifts is there in Isaiah Hartnerstein, deal
around that and picks that makes sense to get now
you're getting off. We'll eat brandon Ingram's money for the
rest of this year, or we'll eat CJ McCollum right
and go that route to get those like that would
be something to consider.
Speaker 2: I mean CJ is kind of like the guy so
before they signed Hartenstein during the summer, I am in,
shouldn't Anthony Simon specifically, because I do think they needed
another floor space. I think they need someone else to
create from the perimeter and in and A McCollum was
doing the trick pretty nicely. I would argue, even if
he's a salary inclusion, which.
Speaker 1: End of it are you talking about the eventual deal
with Milwaukee or with.
Speaker 2: No no for for for Okay, see.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think TJ's super valuable when he's
healthy New Orleans because of the way he's brought up
his three point volume the past couple of years. Have
you seen for I know you Mark Stein's a homie
of yours, isn't he? But what did you make of
the report that the Knicks traded in Karl Anthony Townsend
part to make them a more attractive Yannis destination as
a package.
Speaker 2: Well with with what money? I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: No, you could figure it over the off season. You
could figure it out. My whole point is if they
were really thinking in those terms, why would you have
given up that box pick in the bridges?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, No, I again, I think we we have
to assume that the Bucks, if that trade request comes
in from Yannis, we have to assume it's the big
red reset button, right, I mean we can't.
Speaker 1: We can't assume you in Yes, I think from our distant,
callous perspective, if Yannis wants out, it's time to start over,
especially if brook Lopez is going to be a free agent.
Chris Middleton will be a free agent, he has that
player option. But like when you don't have your own
picks for until when did they get back control their
own picks two thousand and thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that's where that's where I.
Speaker 1: Know that one like that. So that's where ship gets
weird that you probably need like I don't, I personally
don't think in that market that if you trade Giannis
and you're not getting any of your picks back, that
they're gonna be at Maybe they will. I don't think
it's a foregone conclusion that, oh it's reset central there, All.
Speaker 2: Right, how about this? Then they wait until the draft
lottery so they know who gets number one, so at
least they can start off with someone.
Speaker 1: You're offering honest for Cooper flag.
Speaker 2: Depending on who gets it. Of course, if it's a
rebuilding team, there's no reason to get the.
Speaker 1: Nets get Cooper flag.
Speaker 2: They're not playing no exactly, Like it has to be
someone where that makes sense, where there's a salary structure
in place where you could see that trade sort of
get developed.
Speaker 1: What do you do? So what if New Orleans wins
the linch Milwaukee's pick. Oh boy, that'd be fascinating.
Speaker 2: But it isn't. So it's like one oh no, So
how explain to me again? So it's one four protected, right,
So like.
Speaker 1: If the buck pick ends up one through four, the
Pelicans get it. If it's five, the Nets get it.
Pretty high pick out of this.
Speaker 2: Oh that's funny, God, that's funny.
Speaker 1: The better question, so, what's a lottery team that you
could see thinking in those terms like we will give
up the number one, the number two pick. Whatever. I
don't know enough about this draft class other than people
seem to think there are like three to five cornerstones
available at the TOST.
Speaker 2: So there is a team that's currently in the lottery,
I don't necessarily think they'll end up in well, they
might end up in the late lottery when they get healthy.
The ratters are actually pretty good if when they have
all their players. They just haven't had them this year,
Like Emanuel Quickly's been in and out of the lineup.
Speaker 1: R J.
Speaker 2: Barrett started the season injured, Scotty Barnes has been out
of the lineup like it's been. They haven't had everyone together, like.
I would be pretty intrigued to see where they land
on such a deal if they win the lot like,
but again, they just gave up big deals to both
Quickly and Barnes. Maybe they'll just say, hey, look, Cooper
Flag on a cost controlled asset for four years with
this team. Look maybe we'll run with that instead.
Speaker 1: By the way, and that's also what makes it tough,
is like, so you have to make the money work.
In almost all of these cases, it has to be
Cooper Flag plus stuff stuff. Yeah, the Spurs because they
have a ton of salary flexibilities.
Speaker 2: See, I was hoping you bring up them, because imagine this,
you have Wemby and Cooper Flag are you giving that up?
Speaker 1: They as an organization would not. I do think there
are a lot of other teams if they were in
the same situation, would.
Speaker 2: But the Spurs shouldn't. I would go I would go
on record and say the Spurs shouldn't that because that
is building a window that is supposedly sustainable for a
lot of years. Their defense would be right off the.
Speaker 1: Back with Steph Castle there, my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can stide. Note watched a lot of Spurs this year.
No one's talking about this guy. What the hell man.
Speaker 1: He's so sting about him on Sunday. You didn't see that.
Speaker 2: I didn't see you skated.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't see it, shooting like forty eight on three.
And I think some people give me pushed back at
the at the beginning of the season base stuff. Some
of his misses. I know some people think his shot
is slower and lower, so they have him spacing out
from long distances to give him more time to load up.
Right right, he's hitting him now. I thought some of
his misses were like just bring him in a couple feet,
but like he's hitting twenty six and twenty seven footers
over the last five or six games and if he's
hitting those, whether it's the slow dribble pull ups or
off the catch, like that changes the complexion of their
entire future. Just thought you want Wemby, I don't want
to see Wemby in the post. Everyone shut the fuck
up about that too much of let's get Wenby in
the Yeah, you want him getting going downhill or like
as a play at the rim, open up the floor.
Steph Katz is currently doing that. In the fact that
he's kind of learning under the like the tutelage of
CP three, there's a chance that he just ends up
being a basketball cycle path. And like, if we all
of sudden see him punishing mismatches into these mid range
pull ups, that'll be terrifying. He's I was not high
on him, and I'm still by the way, I'm still
skeptical of the jump shot. But if like, this guy
hasn't operable, I'm not saying forty seven percent from twenty
seven feet now, but he's operable. Jump shot. Holy hell.
Speaker 2: I my son and I watched him live in LA
a couple of weeks ago, and he had this one move.
It was it was the most subtle, straightforward thing, Like
no one, no one ever would ever pick it up
on television as being a fantastic thing. He got a
high pick I think was I don't remember if it
was Sack Collins or Wenby setting the screen and he
took this wide like step and then drippled into a
very simple mini pull up. But the separation he was
able to gain off that one power dripple and his
foot his feet placement. I was like, that's clean, Like
that's there's no wasted motion, there's like that isn't a
rookie move. That's not a rookie shot. That's not a
rookie foot placement. Everything was completely under control. And even
my son looked at me and went smooth, and I
was like, yeah, you're right, kidd oh, it really was.
I mean it's like it's the smaller things, but he
just looks so damn polished. And like then when you
go to this profile and you watch the shooting percentage,
just everyone kind of loses their minds. But the process
is extremely encouraging.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a poise there for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I have a couple other teams for the John
if they want a lottery this one. I feel like
it's pretty easy because they also don't own their own pick,
so you would have to but in Atlanta you have.
Speaker 2: To, right, yeah, right, yeah, here's what I do.
Speaker 1: Here's one that I think is interesting, but I'm curious
if it's just a me thing that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Charlotte, Oh, Charlotte would be in in They need a
an established superstar at this point, they need someone who
is they would they would go for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I also think they would
go for it in part because I think LaMelo Ball
is a transcendent player that people still don't appreciate. Now
does he suck? Apparently? Yeah, apparently he sucks. But uh,
that that would be if you're Brandon Miller and on
the basketball court with Giannis. Yeah, that is that like
a yeah, year three Brandon Miller with Giannis and Lamela,
that's a really good team.
Speaker 2: It's fun. At least it would be fun. And you know,
Jonas would have to demand a trade by probably the
fifty game mark because Lamela won't give him the ball.
He'll just be busy taking those twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Disagree, disagree, I disagree, shots man. That's why another team
that might finishing Detroit, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're ready they're ready. They're absolutely yeah. And of
course we don't even have to ask about.
Speaker 1: The baked in. Dude, you don't think the new regime
changed with Trajan langdon I did see did you see
the joke where it was Frey was probably looking at
the way that Duran and Ivy are playing and just
like Kate and just like what is going on here?
So I was like the Trajan Landon surrounded them with
actual spacing like.
Speaker 2: T But that's that's actually the thing. I thought they
kind of accelerated a little bit this year, and I
think they would like to have someone in there who
they know who are So that's the underplay thing, right
Cooper Flag despite the fact that he looks amazing, despite
the fact that he's you know, beasting in college, you
never know. Like that's the thing about the draft, you
never know, right, Remember how mcmarkel Foles was a can't
miss project, I mean or prospect. He was Dwayne Wade
with a three point shot. That was the word on him.
He was supposed to be this transcendent superstar point guard.
You know, he's he's out of the league right now,
so we never really know. So for it seemed like
them would they not look at Jhonison. Go here's a
guy who's won multiple MVPs. There's a guy who's won
a championship. We know we can circle him in for
thirty plus points, twelve plus rebounds, five plus assists, and
strong ass defense. We know that he'll lift our transition
games to a new level. Whereas with Cooper Flag, you know,
you roll the dice on something that you just don't
know what is. I think Detroit, after the couple seasons
that they've had, would lean towards the new commodity. But
that's just my take.
Speaker 1: What about So let's go through that. I guess the
other candidates quickly. We already did New Orleans, we did
San Antonio, we did Charlotte. Uh, Washington is probably a no.
Speaker 2: Right. Oh yeah, that's flak. That's flack. They're leaning into
the youth movement.
Speaker 1: We already said Brooklyn wouldn't, right, We said Atlanta, Wood,
Charlotte would. I mean every team in the East could
be a lottery team. We said the Pistons, they're currently fifth.
Speaker 2: Right, the Bulls would do obviously.
Speaker 1: The Bulls were, yeah, they would ooh, Miami, they probably shouldn't.
I would say, if you win the number one pick Burnald,
you keep Bam, probably keep Tyler Hero. At this point,
he's fairly trade Jimmy Butler, like just rebuild around Cooper Flag,
Kai Ma Bam and Hot Hero. But do you think
they go to Giannis route.
Speaker 2: It's Miami and look Miami. Low Key is one of
those teams that always comes to Star. They're basically Lakeer's
East when it comes to like their mentality, they always
want to start. They are very horny for stars. I
think they they're waiting for Janni's to kind of like
put them on the on the list, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, so I wouldn't, but you're saying they would,
and I probably are.
Speaker 2: Saying they would. I agree with your your logic here.
I think with Miami it's kind of time to retool
a little bit, so a Cooper Flag situation would look
pretty attractive as far as I'm concerned. There is one
scene of the Lottery we haven't talked about.
Speaker 1: Yet Cooper George for oh oh, that's the.
Speaker 2: I thought we were talking about Dallas.
Speaker 1: Kind of the same situation though, right, because for Dallas
it would be you have to give a players who
are good to make the money work. But they would
have to. It would be I.
Speaker 2: Don't care who they gave up. Look, you gotta you've
gotta pair Lukan Ghana's if you have the chance. It's
just just for my sake, just for the for the
sake of Europe. You have to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so, I guess you get there with
the money. Step out of your way with MAXI Kleeve,
but PJ. Because you're probably trying to keep Kyrie and
Derek Lively as part of that, right, right.
Speaker 2: You would have you would almost have to, yes, But
even if you had to give up Kyrie.
Speaker 1: I I would do it, honestly, though I've said this
many times and maybe I need to get past it.
I'm just not even a little bit concerned about Dallas
right now. The current time stuff is weird, But I
think guys are gonna get threes. Hopefully Luca gets. If
Luke is not healthy, then we need to have a
different conversation. But they would do it for sure. Philly
is doing Paul George and Cooper flag for Giannis, right
because that was that's what it would have to be.
Speaker 2: Look, it's it's Daryl Morey. Daryl Moury is not even
shy about admitting his love for stars. Well, do you
know what the.
Speaker 1: Actual trade should be if we're being really honest, M
probably like Cooper Flag and Joelle embiid.
Speaker 2: For Yeah, yeah, I know where you're going. And I
don't disagree that is that is not trending the right
way currently.
Speaker 1: No, Joelle BBD is so dominant. It's just we have
to have the conversation. We have the same conversation about
jaw Zion. He's in that. It's just he's one an
MVP and he's been more dominant ethel strength than them.
What's what other team? Oh? What about Indiana?
Speaker 2: What about Utah? Though Utah doesn't know, we're saying that's
what's work, But that's a team that still seems stuck
and not knowing what the hell they want to do.
Speaker 1: First of all, Danny Age, if he gets his hand
on a number one pick who is Caucasian, is not
is not trading him. So that's not happening.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, he's traking it for a number
three and getting the better player.
Speaker 1: But Utai, I think would be they would fire Will Hardy,
I think before they would trade Cooper.
Speaker 2: Flag to be honest, that might be true that.
Speaker 1: They fire Will hard for winning too many damn games
before they were trade.
Speaker 2: No, but he's just My point about Jutta is basically,
I don't know where the hell they were leaning. They're
all over the place. I have no idea what the
plane is.
Speaker 1: They're leaning very clearly one direction. Will Hardy won't let
it stand like this team is just like putting together
some good offensive performances. I think they'll openly be bad
enough this year. They have the worst record in the West.
Speaker 2: So it's like LORI marktank sens. I'm just trying to
understand where he fits in because when that's.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that was asset preservation at its finest. Like, first
of all, Lowry Marketing, honest would be a fantastic duo,
but you wouldn't have a primary shock creator like there.
Speaker 2: No, they wouldn't, And I understand that as the preservation part.
But then I have to wonder why didn't they flip
Lowry earlier when he had when his trade value was
enormous because of the low salary. That's where like after
year one, for example, year one.
Speaker 1: That's a different conversation. But even then, it's like, I
think he's more valuable on his current deal because he's
on it for so long.
Speaker 2: For so long. Yeah, I can get behind that, I
to an extent, because I'm not sure if he is
a real Max guy considering the need for him being
set up. But you're right, that's a different conversation for
a different day. You brought up you brought up the Pacers.
The Pacers is pretty simple, right, you have Tyreese Halliburton
if he you know, returns to Tyrese Haliburton standards, which
he hasn't this year because I assume it's still the
lingering injury.
Speaker 1: It's so apparently deal with back stuff versus ham stuff.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: What's interesting about them though, is like, Okay, so Turners
coming off the books after this year, so you're are
you trading Sam with them? Like can the money work
with I guess Nemhrd will be on his deal. You
can probably step out of your way there. You'd probably
have to give up them Hardnie Smith is in there,
Ben mcmather and jaredsh Walker makes some money. TJ McConnell
makes someone, but they don't have like a huge salary anchor.
Nemhard becomes their biggest oh over topping I forgot so
nemhrd topping salary and Cooper flag, you probably have to
do it, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be a great deal of contracts
going up. But they don't have that one, you know,
the r See Hartenstein contract that they can just plug
into it.
Speaker 1: They don't have that. Well, but the Nets won't have
that Ben Simmons contract either, Right. What about the Blazers,
you talk about a team that might be all over
the place. Yeah, you're just I guess at that point
it's because their contracts. No one's super expensive on that
team aside from Jeremary Grant and.
Speaker 2: No, and they don't have their number one guy right
like that that team has still like we still don't
really know what Scoot Henderson.
Speaker 1: Is defense though, with sharp Yannis and clinging and then
if they you keep Toamani Kamara and that's and Denny
Abia would be filthy. I don't know what the offense
looks like.
Speaker 2: But no, But and that's why I think they go
Yannest because if you're looking over that roster right now,
who is their clear cut number one guy?
Speaker 1: So if you get flag, do you then look at
maybe moving Scoot where it's like no, you're not getting
Yannis in that scenario, but is there someone else where?
Like would you go to Utah and be like, you
want Scoot?
Speaker 2: We'll talk lowry See, I hear what you're saying. But
I'm wondering what type of value does Scoot have right now?
Speaker 1: There's so do you think that Scoot does better this year?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Or the last year?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: I do think that he would have for teams that
are rebuilding and not in a rush. I think he
would have a ton of I think his mystique for
this year. Right if he stays the same player he
is right now, I think it winds up still being
pretty high interesting.
Speaker 2: I see, I don't know if I'm there, but I
can see like where you're coming from with it. I
would be worried if I'm at seam out there and
I'm looking over the options and I know the price
tag of Scoot Henderson would be significant, and I'm looking
at his production and I'm looking at how he relies
on this leticism to the point that he is. I
don't know, man, I probably would.
Speaker 1: Argue he doesn't rely on like his athleticism enough, or
at least we haven't seen it. And maybe that's the
like what he was supposed to be, and I don't
know how much of that is last year. He's dealing
with that ankle injury stuff to start the year, but like.
Speaker 2: Right, well, my point is he doesn't have like a
foundation to fall back on. He's still very much theoretical player.
Speaker 1: Right and if you're looking at him shooting, what is
he at like fifty one percent inside five feet this year? Like, yeah,
that's a problem for someone, right. But also I just
wonder if this basing was a little bit better around him,
because they're still not their best lineups don't even have
a ton of spasing, and it's why Denny Abby has
been all over the place this year too.
Speaker 2: But I think my overarching point about this is you
don't really have a clear number one guy for the
future in Portland, so you can't justify saying, you know,
no to a Yannas sort of Cooper flag regardless of
you know.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but that's like I would argue though, that's
why maybe they would be more likely to keep Cooper flag.
Speaker 2: Though. Yeah, so you like kind of say this sark guy,
but then what if he doesn't turn into that guy
and you know, you had Giannis on the table, then what.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, hindsight be comes whatever. But I just
but it's just different though, because Okay, they don't get
Giannis and Cooper Flag doesn't pan out. Are people really
gonna question that if you because they're a team that
would be bad enough to get.
Speaker 2: Have you met NBA fans stand?
Speaker 1: But like if you put Giannis on the Blazers instead, Like,
so it's Cooper Flag and let's just use Jeremy Grant
is it Jeremy Grant or referee sign is the most
important player that's going out.
Speaker 2: You got to keep Simons for the shooting, yes, Jeremy
Grand and someone else yes, and Cooper Flag.
Speaker 1: I think that would get you close there and then
you could figure out the rest of the salary or
is it honestly no, it should be Cooper Flag and
DeAndre eight?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So that so okay, that's the deal. You're keeping Jeremy Grant,
Shade and Shark. If Jannis is on that team, how
close are they the title contention?
Speaker 2: Well, you would have to follow up because like even
you say, don't trad Jeremy Grant in this particular deal,
I would flip Grand for someone else.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I get what you're saying. Giannist would
afford you more optionality. Okay, I still think they would.
Speaker 2: Keep Shooter though, like you keep see, the thing is
the Milwaukee's ultimate problem. Forgot about the Milwaukee equation of
all this. Milwaukee's problem for years and years and years
were they never got younger. They never got a young
asset base up around Johnnas. All their other guys are
older than him, primarily I mean Dane, Chris Middleton, those
guys were Lopez and I personally, I'm not ranking about
this for years. I think if you want to maintain
a competitive window for longer, your top tier superstar also
needs to be one of your oldest guys because you
if you are like in the late twenties, start thirties,
but all the guys that you played with for years
and years and years are suddenly in mid in the
mid thirties and they're basically on their way out of
the league because of where they are, then if it
gets extremely difficult to kind of replenish that depth, So
like a get younger here, going into an Anthony Simons
Denyatua situation, Shadon Sharp situation, don Van Klingon situation. That's
gonna be interesting. Jianna's is gonna have young legs for
weeks now.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing though, this is also then a
Lebron to La situation where how long until he gets frustrated?
Like Lebron also had Cleveland trade some of the kids
when he got there, Andrew Wigan was gone, never been
played for, right, So how like is that gonna fly?
So also, if you're Joe Cronin, I think it's easier
to It also buys you more job stability to say, well,
we have the number one pick. This is gonna take
more time than if we get Giannis, and there's an
inherent pressure there. That's also why I don't think that
they would do it. And if it's honest, you better
have the next trade lined up because then and then.
Speaker 2: Who is that?
Speaker 1: And then that's even gonna increase the urgency.
Speaker 2: Then Yeah, no, I agree with you on that absolutely,
and I think that would be part of it. Right.
I don't think you line up Yana straight unless you
have other deals ready to go. I can't regardless of
which team we're talking about, Like there's no team outside
of the Thunder more or less or you just kind
of slide Giannis in there and don't really worry about
the rest of the roster.
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring up very quickly, but I forgot
this would really like, this would be hysterical if the
Clippers won the lottery, which would mean that Okac won
the lottery, is correct, Yeah, I'm pretty sure yes, So
they get Yeah, they're gonna get They have their choice
of the litter, basically between Houston and the Clippers, so
they if if the Clippers won the lot it does
not look like they're gonna be bad enough. And we
know they don't have the incentive, but they just organically
finished in the lottery and Okay ends up with Cooper flat.
I don't even what does Okay se do at that point?
Do you trade? If honestly, does Okay see trade Cooper
fla you have to write for your honest Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: For honest yes, because no, it's it's look, it's I
don't want to say, I never want to say guaranteed title.
But that is as close as you're going to get
to a guaranteed title.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, would they we say they should? Would they?
That's their question from their perspective. You still have J
Dub and Chet, you do, Yeah, and you have to
worry about paying them. Gianness is on his big deal,
Shay is going to get more expensive.
Speaker 2: Now let's let's just roll out the lineup. First it's Chet,
then it's Black, it's J Dubb, it's Shaye, and then
who cares about the fifth starter? Really?
Speaker 1: I mean lou Dort fits into there.
Speaker 2: I would I would honestly want like a clean, clean shooter. Yeah,
like right and yeah right, yeah, I don't even care
about the size the advantage you fight so well, I
mean at.
Speaker 1: That point, just go out there and trade for like
a Duncan Robinson type and slo.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, like like a guy who's just a
straight up shooter.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but you're talking about their whine up. But
you just said they should trade for you.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no what Yeah no, I was just peeped
backing off you like imagining if they just kept black,
because I agree with you, if they keep black, or
then they'll also not have to give up J Dub.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't think you're not.
Speaker 2: You would still have hard deside who you could flip
for more assets down the line.
Speaker 1: If you what what are you talking about if.
Speaker 2: They won the lottery via the Clippers.
Speaker 1: Right, so they But my point is I would still
trade for Giannis. I would go.
Speaker 2: I said you would too. But now we're picking backing
off the other one, like would they like really.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would, so I think they should.
I don't think they would. Is where I land.
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I was
just trying to like follow Sam Press's line of thought here,
like what would that roster look like if they kept
Cooper Flag? Because it does give him some optionality that
he may not have had before.
Speaker 1: So we honestly so Minnesota, if they win the lottery,
that's gonna go to Utah. That don't matter. Memphis, I
wouldn't like that's interesting.
Speaker 2: That's old, right, that is theirs. They own that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have all their own picks, I believe.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, right, you gotta go Flag. I think
no moment.
Speaker 1: You're saying you're keeping flag if you're Memphis, I.
Speaker 2: Think so, just because of the if you want to
build that or maybe like here's the thing though, I
feel like Memphis are is several moves away from like
being that scene that we all hope them to be
one day.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, Yeah, honest, Triple J, Desmond Vane
and John Moran doesn't make them made.
Speaker 2: You're trying to No, that's a fair point. No, that's
a fair point. That's a fair point.
Speaker 1: Because they can step lad. You make Milwaukee figure it
out over the off season with their stuff. If I'm Memphis,
I'm what one hundred percent yeah, doing it right.
Speaker 2: And also because here's the thing, you're right, Memphis also
has the benefit of youth, so for Giannis to come
into that lineup, he can sort of lean into the
youthfulness of it all. Like JJJ is still a young
job obviously still young. Des when baying his own like
what twenty six, I want to say something along those lines,
even saltcy al Dama for example, it's only what twenty
twenty three?
Speaker 1: He's a siren song of mine. I'm happy if he's good, valuable, I.
Speaker 2: Don't I don't understand why he's not talked about. He
should be on the radar for so many more teams.
But that's again different.
Speaker 1: He leads them in minutes per game. At this point,
they're not going to trade him.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, But like generally speaking down the line.
I hear it. I hear you, because they know they
will have another move needed. I feel like there's something missing.
Speaker 1: Here's so now we're getting into some of the long shots,
but like the West is just so lumped to get
Like we're talking about, if you finish seventh, there's a
chance you end up in the lottery. So like that's
why I'm going through this exercise. This is a team
I think we could easily envision. But the Lakers you
would just trade. You'd figure out a way to trade
for Yannis. Correct, it's it's the Lakers. Yeah, it's it's again,
it's the Miami to the opposite direction.
Speaker 2: Of course it is, but it's the Lakers. I don't
anticipate them making the right call.
Speaker 1: That's also fair their front, that's the front. Yeah, here's
the interesting one again I'm talking about because if they
finished seventh, mm hmm. I don't know if you heard that.
All my things are crashing, but we have we have
to talk about this. If they finished seventh, there's a
chance they end up being I'm not going to predict it.
If you're Denver, are you only flag or Yannis?
Speaker 2: Obviously? Are you yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, your kids will be But like outgoing trade,
like who, so who is there? Here's a more uncomfortable question.
M hm who would you rather have as the money
the primary form of money outgoing? Would you rather it
be Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Junior, Jamal.
Speaker 2: Murray MPJ at this point, like so, so here's the thing, So.
Speaker 1: We just don't give a shit about you at SPA.
Speaker 2: And no again because you can make additional moves. But
here's the thing, though, I think the collective IQ of
Giannis and Jokic on the court together and go and
Gordon and Gordon who is like the bully ball version
of as well. I think it kind of orites that.
Speaker 1: Also as valuable as MPJ is to them. And I
know people are upset with Jamal Murray at the moment.
His contract, of all the ones they have, is the
one that's most likely aside from zechnology of course, so
you definitely send out in that right, right, His is
the contract that's probably most likely to be viewed as underwater, right,
even more so than Murray's.
Speaker 2: Three back surgeries. Man, Like, I know he play was
it eighty one games last year and that's commendable and
I hope for his sake he continues that pattern. But
if I'm sitting there as an NBA organization, I know
I have a way to get Giannis. I know I
have a guy who's had that three back surgeries and
I have an option to get out of it. Yeah,
I'm doing that, And if it cost me Cooper Flag,
then I can still trot out Nicole Jokis and Janaszmo.
Speaker 1: That was I think that we covered everybody that could
maybe feasibly be involved in that one, right.
Speaker 2: I think we did. But look, you just indulged me
in two of my favorite destinations, Dallas and Denver, because
that is the big allure over here, over like overseas.
That is getting you know, two of those three European
superstars on the same team. Well, it's the poop thing.
Speaker 1: If Giannis becomes available, Dallas I think would have the
better Like we'll forget about the number one pick. I
think Dallas would have the better hit package that because
Denver can only trade one first round pick one.
Speaker 2: Mber does not have a lot of of of uh, Like.
Speaker 1: You would need the bucks to be in love with
Christian Brown, Peyton Watson, Julian Strather, the Ron.
Speaker 2: Holmes, who hasn't played, which is all that's a big
ass lost by the way, I really liked him.
Speaker 1: I thought, unless he's gonna pull the Derek Lively and
make an impact on a contender as a rookie, I
think people were just I think they were just looking
at the gravity of the Denver's backup big situation. There
was nothing. I don't think there was anything there as
a rookie with him, but interesting. I hope he gets
I hope he gets well obviously. I mean just in
terms of the Nuggets. I don't think he would have
come in and bed a needle mover for them. But
Dallas like, if you start to talk, okay, they have
they could trade up the two first round picks, I think.
Speaker 2: And then you have to keep up Lively. You would
have to give up Lively at that points.
Speaker 1: Fine, yeah, yeah, I don't know how you flesh out
the rest of that deal though, because there's not they're
probably gonna I would assume the Bucks would then insist
on do you want PJ Washington or Kyrie if you're them,
probably PJ. Neither of those teams that are winning Meanness
Sweepstakes without the number one pick, So it doesn't matter.
We don't need to get.
Speaker 2: Into no, no, no, no, Well, well we were talking about
not you know, we were setting the number one pick aside,
like just who Well, I.
Speaker 1: Guess Dallas would still have the better chance just because
we look at the opening of like now we get
into twenty thirty two draft pick territory when we're talking
about next offseason, and so Dallas, Dallas owns, Dallas owns
their pick this year, I believe, yes, And then they
have twenty seven going to Charlotte very loosely protected, and
then they have their twenty twenty nine first is out going,
so they have like there's stuff that you could do
with swaps with you get into twenty thirty one, twenty
thirty two of it all, they would I think, have
the better chance independent of winning Cooper Flag.
Speaker 2: I agree. And then also, let's be real, that would
be a more fun pairing. Like I'm not saying yes,
wouldn't be fun.
Speaker 1: No, one would not get out of here.
Speaker 2: Oh look, having a perimeter player and having a big man,
which is okay, yeah, I don't know. Fun. No, I'm
not saying that Yoki Jonnas wouldn't be fun. You know
that I'm not That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm doing it purely from I'm thinking even like not
even functional, but an aesthetic perspective. Right, Maybe I'm thinking
about it because Jokic Jiannis aesthetically would be more entertaining.
But if you're talking about.
Speaker 2: A prime Luka, I mean that would be fun.
Speaker 1: God, I'd love to see it.
Speaker 2: Healthy Luca is probably the better wording. Healthy Luca.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but could you just imagine like Yannis screening for Jokic.
But I get honestly, the way the MAVs run their
offense around Luca Jannis is more of an intuitive fit
than the way Denver runs their offense around Jokic. Probably, right,
I would argue, because you could figure out a way
to use Giannis in the vein of you're using these
other complimentary players. But like it's not let's have Yokis
run a bunch of picking rolls with Giannis as the screener,
which is like if you're doing the Day Yannis analog,
like that's the two man game that you're looking for.
Speaker 2: For the most part, there's a lot of upside to
that team. So for both teams really would be good.
Speaker 1: Let us know that.
Speaker 2: No, I can tell you though, the big wet dream
is getting all three of them together eventually on a team.
Speaker 1: That's never like, no, not, that's not.
Speaker 2: And that's I've been saying that as well. But it's
a question that get at least twenty times every single summer.
Speaker 1: Like, if you're Yannis, you prefer to play with Luca
because there is a non zero chance that Jokic just
decide to retire on a women race horses.
Speaker 2: That's not, that's not even Look, that's honestly a real thing.
Speaker 1: It's a non zero chance you can.
Speaker 2: And also I think I think his role is more
streamlined in Dallas, Like you could see him kind of
be a little bit diminished and Denver, like Jokis would
grab rebounds out of his area, like he his numbers
would go down in Dallas. He would have he would
be he likes scoring, remember, like when he had the
fifty nine, Like he wants to have sixty, like he
said that, Like he likes to have the sixty point games.
He likes to have the big numbers. Like Giannis is
a little bit of a snip.
Speaker 1: For Yannis, Jokic would be Maybe this is stupid to
say that would be the most unique star pairing in
NBA history, right, yeah, I would charge both one of one.
So yeah, that was a dumb ass thing. Dan. This
is look, we come full circle as we're Tozy. You
introduced me and set the expectations high, and I just
came in with the hottest take of all you didcast.
It's a pretty unique star pairing happens.
Speaker 2: By the way. I'll close on this one though, because
we there's no way we have times for biggest surprises.
Now we're in our an hour and twenty five minutes
into this podcast and two subjects down. Twenty twenty six, right,
that was supposed to be the big year for US
Europeans because at a couple of years ago we had
no idea where Dallas were going, Like, we weren't sure
what what their direction was. Then they made the finals,
everything seemed a little bit more solidified. But we're circling
that twenty twenty six years. Oh that's when Luke can
leave and oh by that point, Wenby's probably looking really good.
That would have been fun. That is off the table now,
So yeah, another tough blow to my fellow Euros.
Speaker 1: Well, I apologies to you. Condolences to all of you guys.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but it's it's it's really rough.
Speaker 1: Who does to Dallas for figuring it out?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I all people would argue they still haven't figured it out,
which I guess is fair. But as I said, you
come talk to me. Gave number twenty five if you
want to be concerned about that. I'm probably over compensating
for being too hard on them at last year's trade
that I skewered the PJ. Washington, I absolutely destroyed it.
And I will say though, anyone who watched PJ. Washington
and Charlotte, the stuff he's done defensively in Dallas, Yeah,
it's exceeded anything he ever did in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: So right out there I was along with you. I
still think they gave up a ton for Gapford and Washington.
Speaker 1: They don't have to exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, it was it was the
right call. I definitely hesitated this well when they did it,
I didn't love it. They proved my ass wrong. And
if they're if there's a player in Jaydon Hardy as
well who takes a leap at some point, this scene
could be good. I am no longer at Dallas Skeptic
regardless of what is how it's gone. Oh the first
what fourteen games? I'm not really sure how many games
they played around that area dan Fa Valley, thank you
so much for joining the pod. We only got to
do two topics, but at least we went long on it.
So before you leave, covered like the entire league on
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lot of fun over there. Come join our discord. The
link to that will be in my podcast subscription if
you google hardware Knocks. But I would argue I'd be
curious that there are people who listen to well, you
have the Danish community. So yeah, if you haven't checked
out Hardware Knox, imagine there's a lot of in the
United States crossover between my pod and your pod because
you do fantastic job. So anyone who wants to consume
league wide coverage in the USA, probably listens to you.
But if you don't, go check out Hardware Knox. My
co host and I have a lot of fun. You're
not going to agree with everything we say. We're wrong
all the time, but we do try to cop to it.
So but we have a lot of fun over there,
So come check us out.
Speaker 2: Love it, and we'll actually beep back again for the
next episode where you and I will actually have a
little bit of a uniform breakdown.
Speaker 1: Oh let's just call it. We're grading the atrocity that
is the NBA City editioneers.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be polite about it, all right, Thank
you so much for listening in you guys, and until
we speak again, have a good one.