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Speaker 2: So, but I'm gonna ask you a question before we
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Speaker 3: Getting a little issue here.
Speaker 2: Uh, Jeff, check in to check to see if he
has a check to see if he has the invite,
because he'll have to. He may have to click on
it again, on it again. I think that's probably the
probably the juice here. But let me let me ask
you a question, Jeff. Uh So, it looks like to me,
if I'm not mistaken, is California gonna be the game
day host next week?
Speaker 3: Is this the case the cow bears.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was announced yesterday. I thought it had a
really good chance of getting it if Cal had beaten
Florida State. So it was a little bit of a
pleasant surprise that Cal's going to be hosting game day
for the first time ever against Miami in a in
a matchup next Saturday. So pretty cool stuff there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was kind of okay because I you and I
had kind of talked about this before, because you were
kind of I mean, I think it was kind of funny.
Speaker 3: You were kind of snarky on Twitter.
Speaker 2: I joke about it a little bit and with I mean,
and I think rightfully, so to be a little bit
of snarky, rightfully, So to be a little snarky that
you said, oh, it's.
Speaker 3: Probably gonna be SOMESSAC team. It's probably gonna be some
SCC team, you know what I mean, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Jeff, and I actually thought that they might use October
fifth as an opportunity to visit, you know, to do
an FCS school right to visit, visit the UH, to
visit at the to UH University of North Dkota and
in North Dakota State and Fargo, because both of them
are undefeated and the FCS play and it's been several
years since North Dakota, you know, I think actually has
had a chance to win the Missouri Valley Conference. I mean,
they're playing as good or better football than most FCS
teams in the country. And I thought, well, you know
that they you know, you know, they visited North Dakota
State before, Jeff, you they've been gone there a couple
of times, and I thought they might actually use that
as an opportunity to visit. But you know, lucky, lucky,
that lucky that they actually uh Luckily that they actually
had an opportunity to to UH for for CAL to
actually get that opportunity to UH to host college game Day,
and it's kind of it's kind of it's sort of
interesting because you know this better than me, Jeff, I
mean did if I'm not mistaken, both CAL, s m U,
and I think even Stanford or two of the three
at least were mentioned in the lawsuit against the ACC.
Speaker 3: And I see Joe here, Now, I see Joe here.
Now is that the Is that the case? Jeff?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe looks it looks good to it looks good
to speak.
Speaker 3: Is that is that the case? Jeff?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: Did they were they mentioned in the lawsuit?
Speaker 1: Oh, the cal Stanford and yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
they were by Florida State. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And now I know Florida states like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, just getting dogged by every every They're getting
dogged by all those fans. They're getting dogged by the
rest of the ACC fans. This is like, I mean,
I'll be interested to hear what Florida what the Florida
State fans have to say. Uh, they're they're really they're
really upset right now. So Joe rogers Man, Welcome back
to the.
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Speaker 2: So let's look at this past week in ACC football,
and we think you might have an idea where you're
going with with your answer. Answer, but which ACC football
team was the most disappointing team in week five? And
who was your most impressive ACC football team this.
Speaker 4: Past week most disappointing. I think the obvious answer for
most people would be Florida State. You know, they got
absolutely stomped by SMU. But I'm looking at the other
side of things and it's probably Wake Forest they lost,
the Louisiana they lost to the Rage Occasions they lost
forty one to thirty eight at home. They had the
missed field goal at the end to ice the game,
so that was really shocking to me. I thought they
were a little bit better than that. Most impressive team
I think it's Virginia Tech. I don't think anyone thought
they had a shot going into that game. It's really impressive.
Had lead on Miami for most of the game, and
you know, rightfully so probably should have won it at
the end.
Speaker 3: I mean fair enough too.
Speaker 2: I mean it's fair to talk about Virginia Tech because,
I mean, Jeff and I talked about this, this was
a Virginia Tech team that, uh, this is probably what
we most of us thought we would see most of
most of the year, and I think it's fair to
talk about the positives there. I mean, I there were
a couple of blown calls, I think from the from
the refs. I mean, I'm probably I might be in
I'm not sure if I'm in the minority here or not,
but I was probably more upset about the phantom holding call,
which was a pancake block rather than the referees decision
on on who made the catch. There an overshurning call
at the end. I mean, I understand why people are
upset about that one. I think I'm probably more upset
about the former, because that was just so it was
just so obvious and blatant that it was a pancake
block and that there was no hole there, and it
took six points off the board a sixty two yard
run and six points off the board there, And I
was a little floored by it. But it's absolutely the case,
and no, Jeff would like to chime in here too,
It's absolutely the case that this is a team that
I think a lot of people would have thought that
they saw all year. It's probably a team that if
they played like this in the first game, they would
have beat They probably would have beat Vanderbilt, They very
likely could have defeated Rutgers. And they look like a
much different team against Miami, perhaps playing with their hair
on fire.
Speaker 1: Jeff, Yeah, I mean, I think we all kind of
felt like Virginia Tech had had that kind of effort
in them. I mean, we all couldn't have been wrong.
You know, when you look at this team and see
drawings and quarterback and tooting it running back and the
momentum they had last year, and this was the first game,
they really I felt like, played the majority of the
game at the level that you felt like they could
at the whole year, which makes them a very dangerous
team even at two and three going forward about what
they can do if they can build on it. And
I mean, no matter you know what you think of
that controversial call at the end of the game, you know,
they effectively were one play from winning that game either way,
and Drones went toe to toe with cam Ward, who
I would have in my top three as Heisman candidate,
and it was just, you know, a great performance by
Virginia Tech. They were really physical in that game, which
Miami it was. I think Virginia Tech exposed quite a
few things with Miami that if they want to be
an elite team this year and really be a true
playoff contender, you know they're going to have to match,
you know, the physicality of teams that bring it like
Virginia Tech did, because there's gonna be other teams on
that schedule, definitely, if they get into the playoffs, there's
going to be you know, physical teams that they hadn't
seen prior to Virginia Tech. So I think it's a
lot for Virginia Tech to build off. It's a lot
for Miami to learn from. And you know, all in all,
just it was just a great football game. It was
a kind of you know when a game ends like that.
I mean I was watching the game from my phone
and I honestly could not make out the result of
that of that catch, and so you hate to see
a game end on a controversial call like that. But
it was a great It was a great game and
a really good.
Speaker 2: Performance from It was the nineteen nineties Big East style game.
Speaker 3: I think you'd probably agree with that, and Jeff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was kind of a throwback to
those Virginia Tech Miami games in the Big East when
they both you know, were really you know, they were
both are really good, and you know they had, you know,
really quality teams, quality quarterback play. I mean, this just
goes top to bottom in the ACC with good quarterbacks.
And you know Cam Wore would make a play that
I was like, oh, that's unbelievable. Then Karen Jrones would
make a great play, and I mean they were just
going back and forth in that one, and it did
kind of remind you of some of those you know,
rivalry games they had in the late nineties and early
two thousands.
Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely, Jeff, you're up.
Speaker 1: All right, Joe. Which ACC football game are you looking
forward to the most in Week six?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: You know, that's a really tough one. You kind of
look across the board and there's a lot of just
straight up ACC games, not much out of conference games
this week. But for me personally, I think it's Duke
going to Georgia Tech. They play at seven pm. They're
in Atlanta. I think Duke might probably be one of
the most fraudulent five and O teams in the country
right now, haven't really been tested. They beat some really
bad teams. I don't think UNC is very good at all.
I mean we saw that in the GMU game. Georgia
Tech's three and two. They're a tough three and two.
They're physical. I'm looking forward to that one because I
think it'll be a measuring stick for both teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's a really intriguing game
to you know, Georgia Tech, even in both of their losses,
have been in that those games deep into the fourth quarterer.
They were the first school to you know, their football
team was the first one to expose Florida State this year.
And you know, I think Duke is a tough as
nails team. I'm gonna give him credit for that. I mean,
they were down twenty to zero against North Carolina, they
were you know, they were down against Northwestern earlier in
the year. They're they're tough. But that that is a
flawed team that I don't think is exceptional athletic. And
you know, they have Malik Murphy at quarterback who seems
to play his best late in games. And then the
running back star oh man, I forgot his last name here,
all of a sudden, that's terrible, but he's played so yeah,
thank you, start Thomas who's played so well the last
three three games. And you know, this is a game
that you look at and you say, hey, if Duke
wins that game and gets to six and oh going
into a bye week, because they really, you know, you know,
really contend here in the ACC and you kind of
just look at it and you say, they're a solid team,
but they look more like an eight win type team
than someone who's going to contend. But boy, they go
into Atlanta and win that game on a Saturday night
where Georgia Tech usually performs really well. And then I
agree with you Joe that you know, Georgia Tech has
some issues on the defensive side of the ball, a
little bit of an issue running the ball and their losses,
but I mean they still are a pretty decent team.
And if Duke goes in there and knocks them off,
it'll it'll send us. They're both seasons in two different directions.
You know, Duke can think like huge on the season
and then Georgia Tech might see, you know, things go
for them and to complete free fall. You know, there's
a couple other games that I'm personally looking forward to
in a pretty good slate of games. Of course, Clemson
Florida State, not not with the kind of the cachet
you would normally see in a Clemson Florida State game,
but Clemson probably playing as well as anyone in the
A c C over the last three games. And I
mean they could. I think Florida State seasons already sunk,
there's no question about that. But just how much further
can it sync if Clemson wins wins that game, is
they they you know, have their eye on trying to
get to the ACC title game. And then a really
sneaky good game I think is s MU at Louisville.
Louisville coming off an emotional game where they competed pretty
well with Notre Dame but made a few mistakes which
they couldn't overcome, and then SMU, who I think right
after Clemson has shown the most improvement of any ACC
team since game number one, and that's a pretty pretty
nice matchup in the ACC as well. All right, Joe,
as we as we keep looking ahead of anything else
here in the ACC, get your thoughts on which ACC
team or teams could be on upset alert in week
week week six, if they're looking ahead to a game
on their schedule or otherwise just sleepwalking on the field.
Speaker 4: I think it's the obvious one. I think it's number eight,
Miami going all the way to Berkeley playing at Cal.
They're playing late. I believe it's a nine to thirty
Eastern PM start, So that could be kind of funky
for Miami. You know, do they have a letdown after
a big emotional win against Virginia Tech? You know, Cal
has two good running backs that got Thomas and they
got Auto or excuse me, so I kind of look
at Miami, you know, they're five and zero, the number eight.
They Miami fans never want to say, you know, we're back.
They don't want to jinx it. But are they? You know,
this game could be the one to kind of solidify them.
There's a lot on the line there. How's the travel
affect them, how's the late start affect them? You know,
their twelve point favorite. But there's a lot that could
go wrong in that game. And that's who I'm looking at.
I'm looking at Miami.
Speaker 2: It's fair to say that they're gonna be kind of
They're gonna be kind of a crazy Jeff, you probably
agree with this, but you've watched well, I call it
acc after dark man, I've been I should trade bark
D because they've been cal is kind of a strange
team at all. Their fans are kind of nuts and
that may and I'm with y'all. I think that that
could that could be an interesting situation.
Speaker 3: What about what about? How about how about this though?
How about this though? Uh, Syracuse going on the road
to u n l V.
Speaker 1: Yet, Yeah, that's that's not going to be easy for Syracuse.
And now that I think, I remember, a couple of
weeks ago, people were saying, oh wow, Syracuse and UNL
vs un l V a big twelve champion versus Syracuse
ACC champ before Stanford knocked off Syracuse. But that's a
really dangerous game for Syracuse. Actually, I think UNLV is
favored in that game, but they better play well. And
weird deal going on there at UNLV. They lost their
starting quarterbacks a Loucable because of Nil thinking he didn't
get paid. So all kind of weird things going to
be involved in that one.
Speaker 2: And then of course you've got Pettitt or a Pettitt
at North Carolina. People get to find out whether what
Pitt's all about, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's another good one too. I mean North
Carolina is reeling and you know it, don't even get
me started on that defense with Jeff Collins giving up
seventy points last week, blowing a twenty point lead midway
through the third quarter. In this one, I mean, Pitt
can absolutely knock knock the rails off of North Carolina season.
I mean it's completely teetering in Chapel Hill right now,
and I think they're on the verge of an absolute
collapse of that season. And Pitt can close the door
on that. I mean, they still have a Marion Hampton.
They got some offensive skilled players, but but Pitt, you know,
Mike might send Mac Brown off into the sunset and
Jeff Collins looking for a new a new position. If
they can go in there into Chapel Hill and off
the Tar Hills, and I think, you know, if Pitt
is truly the team, I think they're starting to become.
I mean, we've seen them have their fourth quarter comebacks
against Cincinnati and West Virginia. If they can put a
whole game together, you know, they might win that game
by a couple of touchdowns. And that's a game that
they certainly can't overlook because we've seen Pitt play great
two weeks in a row and then get have a
loss inexplicably to a team over the last few years.
And they got to avoid that against North Carolina because
North Carolina still has enough talent. But if Pitt punches
first and Lands won, it might be curtains for North Carolina.
All right, Joe, let's step out of the acc for
a bid here. Which National FBS game are you looking
forward to the most in Week six? And we're wide
open with this question. This can be powerfied non powerfied.
You can even have an FCS matchup and then give
us the winner of that game.
Speaker 4: So I've kind of got two and I'll narrow it
down to one, but number nine Missouri at number twenty
five Texas A and M. Missouri's four to oher A
and M's four and one, you know, the one loss
coming to Notre Dame. That's the early games eleven AM
my time. I think it's New New yor All's time Eastern.
That is going to be really intriguing. It's going to
be interesting to see if Missouri is for real. I mean,
so that's probably the first game of the day I'm
going to be watching. But the real game of the
week for me still staying in the SEC six point thirty,
number four Tennessee at three and two Arkansas, because I
think that Arkansas team is better than their record. Tennessee's
on the road. I know that they beat Oklahoma on
the road, but I really want to see if they
can get it done against Arkansas, who I think it's
probably a top top half of the ACC or SEC's
probably the game that I think is going to be
really intriguing for me. And this is a good slate,
Don't get me wrong. I mean there's Michigan at Washington,
got USC at Minnesota. I mean, this pretty good week
for games. The ACC has a bunch of good games,
but those are the two that I'm really interested in
outside of the ACS.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, Matthew, you got to fall up on
this question.
Speaker 2: Dude, Joe, what about the even bigger matchup? Because, man,
I'm telling you had had Miami lost, do you know
why who I think would have hosted Game Day this
week Joe or this upcoming week?
Speaker 4: Do you think it would have been BC and EVA?
Speaker 3: No, I think it would have a good one.
Speaker 2: I think it would have been North Dakota North Dakota States.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's such a classic matchup too.
Speaker 2: I'm actually did serious about it because they've gone to
Fargo before and both teams are undefeated.
Speaker 3: Yes, he is, And I think that Virginia Tech should
have their recruiting staff and Fargo trying to pick offensive lineman.
Who's win that game?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: So, I am a North Dakota State University fan personally.
You know, I saw Quincy Patterson go play there. I
love them, man, I love their moxie, I love their staff.
I love that program. I kind of love how they
play just physical, smash mouth football. Practicing the cold, I
mean it's not too cold yet, you know. But yeah,
North Coast State, they're winning that game. But that would
have been a great game day.
Speaker 2: I truly thought it was going to be that, be that,
but Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami screwed it up.
Speaker 3: Okay, now I'm just kidding. This is an acc podcast.
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's gonna be hell It's gonna be
a hell of a freaking matchup with California because I
think I think, as Joe said, that they the Bears
have a chance to pull it up, pull an upset
out there, because that is going to be the craziest
fan base and they're gonna be They're gonna be pulling
all kinds of crazy Blootz packages in Miami. It's gonna
be kind of I think it's gonna be kind of
fun to watch. They'll have to Yeah, and I think
they'll spy, and I think they'll spy on that quarterback
a little more too, So I think I certainly think
that's the case.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Jeff, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Joe, we're gonna have our next segment and We
got a couple we call open mic segments, but this
first one we just want to focus on you as
our guest. Anything you want to hit on, just let
it fly. We call this open mic number one.
Speaker 4: You know, I am really shocked this year at the
level of play out of the top half of the SEC.
It just almost looks like a different sport to me.
You know, I watched the Bama Georgia game last night.
I watched Texas arch manning incredible, and yeah, they get
a ton of prey. But I think the ACC this
year in general, has a lot of parody outside of
Clemson in Miami. So the ACC has a ton of
fun games. I hope that they continue to get a
lot of viewers. The cal edition turned out to be
a very smart move. I mean, they've been a good
addition to the ACC. They're starting, They're fitting right in,
you know, SMU, they've had some good games so far. Stanford,
I don't know about them yet. You know, they just
got shell ACKed by Clemson, but a lot of teams
do so. But to me, I think a lot of
people thought that the ACC would be, you know, like
a Tier two I don't see that. I don't think
that the Big Ten is good enough to create that
separation in the conferences. To me, and I honestly think
that the ACC is better than the Big twelve. So
I think that we've got, you know, kind of some
fun things going this year so far. You know, the
conference realignment really did actually help the ACC. What do
you guys think about that?
Speaker 2: We agree with you. I think in part, the ACC
is much better this year. I mean, Jeff and I
have talked about this on several occasions. I think the
last time the ACC really good nationally was when they
when there was good quarterback play in the league. And
there's at least ten in this conference that can play
at other universities in the country.
Speaker 3: The cut quarterback the level of quarterback play.
Speaker 2: Is extremely high in the ACC, and I think that
certainly contributes to it.
Speaker 3: Jeff, what do you got there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I definitely, I don't think there's any
question that the ACC is superior to to the Big twelve.
You know, so then you look at I know, I
don't think that they have a team that you can
really put comparable to to Ohio State, for example, But
I feel like, you know, in that that league from
Penn State Oregon down, you know, and we I think
the ACC even has a winning record against a big
ten overall, so we know the middle of the packs
are are are similar. And you know, then you look
at the SEC and I think, I do you know,
we have to agree, Joe, we get credit where credit
is due. You look at Texas, Alabama and Georgia and
and they're they're cut above and maybe even Tennessee. I
think Tennessee is really good. And you put Ohio State
in that group. But you know, you get past those
four and and the A c C has has generally
competed pretty well with the middle of the pack of
the SEC. You know, there was that Calwyn at Auburn.
We know, Okay, unfortunately the Vanderbilt loss was was in there.
But I think the ACC has compared very favorably with
the other four power leagues this year. I think there's
very much potential to get two ACC teams into the playoffs.
I would have said there even could have been an
outside shot at three if Louisville had knocked off Notre Dame.
But that's probably a stretch. But I think it's not
out of the question that you could have Miami and
a Clemson, and you never know if another team that's
kind of back in the pack, but starting out of
the season really well. We talked about Duke. I'm not
sure I can really see Duke putting on that kind
of a run, but I mean, you never know if
pitt can have an eleven and one type season they got.
They got some deficiencies in the secondary, but you've kind
of survived some of those issues in the first four
games and if you get those things right with Holstein
at quarterback. So I think it's it's been a pretty
solid season for ACC football. I mean, everyone tried to
ride them off instantly because of some of the opening
weekend losses. Old Florida State, you know, they lost, even
though it was too They've been losing in the ACC.
I never quite understood that when you how it's bad
for a conference when they lose to another team in
the conference. You know, and Georgia definitely put it to Clemson.
But we're gonna use that same argument that that everyone
else uses when you have a bad first game. Clemson
is a different team than they were in that Georgia game.
And I'm not saying they could beat Georgia. That's that's
not what I'm saying at all. But in that game,
I don't know if people came out of it thinking
Clemson is not even a top twenty five team, and
they're the one of the hottest teams in the conference
right now. They have deep threats at wide out with
more and west co that they haven't had in years,
and those two barely played against Georgia and that offense,
and you see the way clay Clublick is playing now
that they can have guys get behind defenses. They haven't
had that three or four years. And I think Clemson
has a really great opportunity to run the table to
the ACC championship game. I mean, there's still some tests.
They got to go to Blacksburg, they got to play Louisville.
South Carolina is a capable team an a rivalry game,
so it's definitely not assured that they're going to be
able to do it. But right now they're just they're
just beating the daylights out of their opponents, and you know,
we'll see how it goes for them. But I do
not think that is the same team that you saw
against Georgia.
Speaker 2: I think, certainly think that's fair to say I think
I certainly think that's fair to say, Jeff, Okay, we
got our last open microphone.
Speaker 1: Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna go with it first this time. But
I'm going to ask you a question that I've kind
of been asking a lot of people on Twitter about
Virginia Tech. And this is kind of a Homer question
here for me. What's the ceiling for wins for Virginia Tech?
Who sits at two and three in the league.
Speaker 4: I think now, after you know, the start of season,
knowing what we know now, I think the ceiling is
probably eight and four. I think that's probably what we're
looking at. You know, the Clemson game that looks like
it could be a loss, but even if you get
by them, there could be another one on the schedule somewhere.
I'm gonna say ceiling is probably eight and four.
Speaker 3: Fair enough? Fair enough?
Speaker 2: What do you got for your open microphone, Joe? Second segment?
Speaker 4: All right, so I know that you all mentioned the
quarterback play and the acc who's some of the most
you know, disappointing quarterbacks that you've seen. I think for
me it would be Presston Stone at SMU.
Speaker 3: I thought he was.
Speaker 4: Gonna come out and like the world on fire.
Speaker 3: But I'd like to hear your all thoughts, Jeff. I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna pitch over to you.
Speaker 1: Jeff. Yeah, I think that's a great point, Joe. I mean,
I had Preston Stone is one of my top five
acc quarterbacks going into the season. I had him at
number five and he's not even a starting quarterback now,
and he's probably not the Jennings player. Kevin Jennings I
think his name is, but no, no, I know it's Jennings,
you know, since he came in about halfway through that,
but BYU game, he's he's just been on fire since
he's been put into the full time role. I mean,
I scored sixty six against TCU. They marched up and
down the field on a pretty good Florida State defense.
Is you know, as much as we've talked about Florida State,
you know, really being a bad football team defensively, they
they've been kind of stingy, you know, not as great
as what we thought they would be, but they've been
a pretty decent defensive team. And you know, SMU just
man handled them, and Jennings had no problem moving the
ball on them. So yeah, I think Stone losing his
job it's probably makes him the most disappointing quarterback. Of course,
you have to talk about dj Ui Anglula, But I'm
not sure if he was a disappointment because he is
who he is, and you know, most observant acc fans
knew that he was, you know, gonna have issues in
that offense if he didn't have help, and as soon
as they didn't have a running game behind him, the
offensive line is kind of train wrecked. And he didn't
you know, he didn't have Keon Coleman to throw to.
They really haven't had any other wide receiver step up,
and you put things on dj you knew what you
were going to get. You were going to get a
guy who you know has a great arm, and you
know every now and then makes a throw that you're like, look,
guy looks at an NFL quarterback. But you know, in general,
he's just hasn't been a good collegiate quarterback. So I'm
not sure if we can say he's been disappointing. I
think Stones Stones Stone's the probably the one who's been
the most surprising disappointment at quarterback.
Speaker 3: Very good point, Jeff, Very good point. Jeff, I'm going
to bring up one other one.
Speaker 2: Did you you know, because I think I'm I'm going
to add on a little bit to the DJU thing there.
I mean, I think they knew, at least I hope
they did, Jeff and Joe, that they knew what they
were getting at Florida State before they came in and
paid all the nil funding. That would be the first
thing that I would say on that, because he has
a I mean, Jeff has said this consistently on Twitter
right that, for example, that oh, you should just try
and make sure you sell out on the run.
Speaker 3: And force DJU to throw with his arms.
Speaker 2: So, I mean that's been the known issue with DJU
for quite a bit of time. But I guess I
would ask you then, Jeff, I mean, did you think
that Grayson McCall was going to be better at NC
State than he is?
Speaker 3: Because it's kind of under.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I think there's to me with NC State.
I think there's other issues going went on than than
just McCall. I mean, they have the concepts the owned
kid who's really really good, but you know, their offensive
line is really not very good. They don't they don't
have much of a running game, and and defensively without
Peyton Wilson. You know, on that on that team, they
got so many holes on that side of the ball
that I don't I don't know if you know. He's
been okay when he was was playing, but you know
he okay, I don't. I do agree with you, Matthew.
He hasn't been what we expected. But I'm not quite
sure if I put him in the category of of
Preston Stone as as pure disappointment and if I'm not mistaken,
didn't didn't he get hurt? Yeah? I think he got hurt.
It is now out for several weeks, out for the season. Possibly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he I think he did.
Speaker 2: But I I just I wasn't as impressed with I
guess I thought they.
Speaker 3: Were gonna get a little more, a little more from him.
I mean, I I've heard I've heard him even before
he got hurt.
Speaker 5: I've heard some NC State fans that just what what
what weren't as pleased with weren't as pleased with him,
And I guess I'll I'll ask one other I'll throw
what one other one other question to you, Jeff, what
about what about quarterback?
Speaker 3: Quarterback play? At North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they've had some bad luck there. They lost
Johnson in the opening game to a leg injury. Harold
was playing there for a bit, and you know, they
just don't have a lot of options there at North
Carolina at the white at the quarterback position now with
with the injuries and inconsistent play. But you know, definitely
after what you'd seen there the last few years with
Drake May, they've definitely have downgraded at the quarterback position,
and I think that's a big reason why they've had
such uneven play with that offense, even though they do
have some decent wideouts in Hampton at running back.
Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely. What do you got for is Jeff open Mic?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to put a word out there.
I mean in ac seaaland the you know, keep keep
your thoughts and prayers out there for the people and
you know that were affected by Hurricane Elaine up through
the Florida Gulf Coast, through just eastern Georgia, the midlands
of South Carolina, through the upstate. You know, just just
devastating and then even as you go through western North Carolina.
The only way you can describe what's what's going on
and is like Asheville, North Carolina. That comes to mind,
is it's almost like Katrina, Like even though you're several
hundred miles inland, it was just total devastation from the flooding.
And you know, even myself, like my house it does
not have power. So I'm here like staying at at
you know, my mom's house, who does have have have power.
So you know, we've we've been pretty much okay, definitely
not as bad as some folks, but I mean they're
they're like whole counties that are still over ninety five
percent without without power. And even as you go through
eastern Tennessee, just a trail of devastation, you know, through
through this area. And you know, just keep those folks
thoughts and prayers, however, you know, hope, you know that
they can recover as quickly as possible. The electrical guys
that we were driving through our neighborhood, and I mean
it's like looking at you know, you're almost these are
like the electrical first responders, and we passed by them
like honk the horn, give them the thumbs up. And
I mean they're working around the clock to try to
get power up for everyone and and today, like where
we live just south of Greenville. I mean, there was
power popping up like all through the area of friends
of ours who'd been out, and we kind of expect
ours to be up in the next day or two
at least, so you know, we're we're gonna be definitely
be fined. But in some of those really hard hit
areas like eastern Tennessee and the mountains of North Carolina,
who might be weeks without power and having to rebuild
like total infrastructures there, you.
Speaker 2: Know, just absolutely absolutely for you, Jeff, are they bringing
in like the core of engineers and the guard. Do
you see any of the I mean because I know
FEMA obviously FEMA is down there, But are they bringing
in others to help rebuild, you know, because they rebuild
the infrastructure, you know, do you are you seeing larger
governmental outfits there like that, or even military support, sorts
of facility, sorts of facilities like the like the like
what I just mentioned.
Speaker 1: Not not where where I where I'm at, I don't
think we have that level of damage in this area.
Ours are mostly like electrical power lines, and we've seen
plenty of you know, electrical guys starting to work in
this area. From what I saw on the news today,
they have not yet had uh FEMA there in Western
North Carolina, at least just one of the people they
were interviewing saying, you know, when are they going to
set up there? But I imagine that relief efforts have already
started there. I think they said the President was gonna
come through the area later this week. So I imagine
they are, you know, probably working around the clock to
to to get them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they got to they gott to declare a
natural disaster area before Yeah, that's when everything closed in.
And so I suspect because I have a couple of
friends who from FEMA who may get called in from
BC to come down and help, come down and help
you know, yeah, how big, how big it is.
Speaker 1: I think part of the issue at the at the
moment is that Western North Carolina is largely impassable, so
I don't even know if if FEMA could get there.
They're still doing like a damage assessment. There's certain areas
where they can't even get anyone on the ground. They're
having to do like drone drive by or drone overhead
views to get an assessment of the damage. And I
think like roads into Asheville. They're they're like whole road
infrastructures that's completely underwater damaged. Uh So, I think that's
that's going to be a hindrance for a lot of
the relief efforts is there's only so many ways to
get through those mountains into those areas, and so many
of them are are impassable. Someone told me that they're
in Greensboro and that the exits for going into western
North Carolina they basically said, do not even enter this area.
It's it's that bad.
Speaker 2: Well, we're certainly praying for for them all here at
All Sports Discussion, coming from everybody here on the on
the on the podcast. Joe, thank you so much for
spending your Sunday evening with us on the All Sports
Discussion ACC podcast. We loved having you come on the
show and we'd love to have you come on the
show again sometime.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys, And yeah, everybody pray for everyone affected
by the hurricane h southwest Virginia, especially the deeper part
over toward eastern Tennessee. They've got a lot of flooding.
I got and family members without power over Enriched Valley.
It's over by Marion, so yeah, I feel for everybody.
Man from Florida all the way up. Just pray for
everyone and thank you guys for having all right.
Speaker 2: Have a great week guys, Thanks again, Joe,