Speaker 1: Ah, right, and we're back and quickly before we ah
do it. I guess I can't just quick quickly today
they or I guess a couple of days ago whenever.
During the press for Daredevil, they announced that they are
doing a special presentation for Punisher. They're bringing those back.
We kind of thought those were dead, but they're doing that.
It's gonna be starring John Birthall. He's also co writing it.
They actually got a guy that I can't remember his name,
He directed King Richard, so a guy that's co writing
and directing it as an Oscar like film producing guy.
So there's a lot of stuff behind here, no idea
of runtime. But they did say it's gonna come out
next year. They said alongside Daredevil season two, which Daredevil
season two is confirmed for next year. I don't know
if that means like literally at the same time or
like a before or after, but yeah, because we're talking
about Daredevil, thought we bring him some news here, But yeah,
Punisher getting a special presentation. Dylan is my former Netflix
Marvel reviewer boy. Obviously we reviewed the first two and
now obviously not a show. I think we're not gonna
show because I think birth Ball's just like I think
he's too busy now to do like that, you know,
thirteen to nine episode thing. Even Daredevil, I doubt I
think he's in there for a couple episodes. But I
think this is just like he's in an old movie
now and he's like doing all this suff he's in
the account two coming up, which almost drafted. But how
do you feel about a special presentation for the Punisher?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I really thought those were dead. I didn't think we
were gonna get any more special presentations. And I'm trying
to think. I guess it was was it twenty twenty
three Christmas when we got The Guardians one? Or was
it twenty two? Must have been twenty twenty three, right.
Speaker 1: I think it's twenty twenty two, maybe because Guardians came
on May twenty twenty three, So I think it was
twenty twenty two when we got that, right, that would
make sense. You get it, You get it, Yeah, because
Guardians came on in May that Yeah, those are big
time flies what you're searching at or you're looking at porn.
Speaker 2: He's twenty twenty two, same as Worth by Night.
Speaker 1: Okay, that was October, so we got that one year
of specials and they're like, we're done, we're not doing it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, wow, it's been a long time since we've
got one or even heard, like we've heard a couple
of little pieces of chatter, but like nothing really meaningful,
nothing from like the top tier Scoopers. So this is
pretty exciting.
Speaker 1: Oh this is from the head of Marvel TV. It's
not Scoopers. It's like confirmed, it's like it's happening.
Speaker 3: Very exciting. Yeah, no, that's that's that's really great. I think,
as you mentioned, like he he's in a different spot
in his career than he was back in those days
when he was doing ghost recon and random stuff. Now
this is a busy man. Okay, he just knows time
for domes, stage time for his fifty minute or probably
a thirty three minute long special with credits uh in there.
But I think it's cool that if it's gonna time
up with season two of Daredevil in some way, I'm
really excited to see what that connection is. Hopefully he's
in that first season at least for some juicy bits,
so we have some stuff to break down. It's not
just like some meaningful cameover he pops up for one
second says you doual red and then like backs off
and we never see him again. But yeah, I think
that's cool, and I think maybe it shows that this
character could be a bigger deal for this era of Marvel.
We'll see. We've talked about like what a Marvel Knight's thing.
Is that something they would go midnight suns like that
kind of space. Is that something they would do, and
maybe that's where he would pop in for like a
movie or something, if they're building up to something like that,
and maybe Daredevil is truly the thing that's gonna like
kick off that potential thing we'll see. So yeah, I
think that's very exciting. I'm looking forward to that. I'm
sure he's gonna sure he's gonna crush it in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just because obviously there's some credits, and they're always
marveled their credits. But I think the Holy Special was shorter,
but wear by Night was fifty three minutes. If we
can get that same run time for this, because like
iesus the point out if it's a special presentation, not
just a movie, probably like an hour long unless it's
a straight to Disney plus movie and they call special
special presentation. I would love that. But I think the
good thing with like Punisher is kind of the perfect
character of like he's out in New York, there's a
criminal or gang he's gonna take down, and it's just
like a an actioner, Like I think you can have
some emotional stuff, but I think say that for the
shows and everything, I think this should be like Punisher
with like or John Wick with Punisher, where it's he's
on a you know, not on a hit, because.
Speaker 3: Obviously Punisher versus Sidewinder, maybe that could be a good
for it's.
Speaker 1: Get John Carlo in there. You know, that'd be great.
But I think this is fantastic. My wish obviously would
be a season. But the same way I've always said this,
like what I do, like what James Gunn is doing
with the like the clay Face thing. I would love
they do this. It's a hit and they're like, yeah,
we're gonna make a thirty to fifty million Punisher movie
and put that out because always the MC movies are
always like one hundred and fifty million plus, Like it'd
be great. I like, hey, we're gonna put out this
Punisher movie in like October November, like somewhere like, well,
even February again, I know February is not going good
for CAP right now, but I hope this does well
because I would need more. You know, I don't know
if I can for sure say this, but I don't
feel bad saying John Berthall, I think is a top
five like casting to me for a comic book character,
like he is just Frank Castle, so he's the perfect
character to be special presentation. Plus like we're off by Night,
where I think you can make it rateed R and
it's not as bad as like, well it's only fifty
three minutes to an hour, or maybe they don't want to.
I know they say Daredevil's tvm A, let's wait till
we actually see it, but I don't know if they
want to do that. And Punish is a bit more
of a controversial character, so it's just music to my ears.
But I said this in the discord boys, uh, because
Tear asked, oh, should we do this? You never know? Wait,
can we expect a punish your season one and season
two Red show in the next twelve.
Speaker 2: To sixteen we have to watch Defenders to fill in.
Speaker 3: Less episode only episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to rewatch Daredevil with defenders this time, No,
he is not a defender, so you're in the clear. There.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm tired, boss, I mean, I'm I'm tempted. I
it's funny because the same thing with this. Okay, there
you go confirm we're doing.
Speaker 1: It's funny.
Speaker 4: Similar for me with like the first time we'd watched
or first time I watched Daredevil, I only made it
through like a I think halfway through the first season,
and then same thing for Punisher.
Speaker 5: Actually, I think I made it halfway.
Speaker 4: Through that first season, so it'll be an interesting revisit,
but especially just going through Daredevil again and like seeing
that character and the casting, and since then I've seen
John Bernhal in other things and yeah, he's he's just
so fantastic and just taking the baton here. I think
this is just such a great place to have the
Punisher because it's a tricky character to just squeeze into
a project because he is so extreme and so different
than I think, especially like just other MCU things that
are going on right now. We have we have killers,
you know in the MCU, but like it's not really
a character like this, yeah, exactly, so like wonder Man,
completely different caliber of just brutality, and I think especially
pulling from the fact that we've seen him already, like
like he has his own and we've seen him in
Daredel and just seen to the level the brutality has
in my mind picturing where he would fit in an
MPCU project. It's like they would have to nerve him,
they would they would have to take down a lot
of the blood and what makes that character what he is.
So I wouldn't want to do that. Where's a special presentation?
Uh yeah, like you mentioned where We'll fin Night like
that that had blood. You know, it's a little gray
in there, but yeah, no, it like like it has
viciousness to it. And I think the special presentations are
just a nice little it's like a little pocket dimension,
you know, in doctor Strange terms, where like we can
just we can just do a story and not really
feel like we have to tie to anything. But also
it's there, It's still in the MCU, so we can
pull from it if if if we if we want to.
So yeah, I think this is super super exciting. Not
when I ever would have assumed we'd be getting in
terms of special uh presentations, but it makes sense. And
now now that we're like jumping into dared Ovil born again.
And just like other characters that he'd be an inter
interacting with, it's a it's a nice period and midnight
suns are always you know, in the in the stars somewhere.
I'm a plaid movie that's never gonna happen, but a
character that could crossover.
Speaker 1: Just give him a special at this point, my god,
just get him. Just get him in their coach, you know, please.
Ippo says he'll be shooting nameless CGI creatures gape with
Gray Blood and who said in Secret Wars, I'm down.
I'd love it if he was in. At one point
he does get the war machine suit Frank Castle and
fuck yeah, like I would. It's got the Punisher logo
on and everything, like I love John burthall up there
with like, oh man, that would.
Speaker 3: Be no crime better better not to be doing any crime. Machine, Yeah,
putting on the record, I don't want that.
Speaker 1: I don't you don't want you don't want Frank.
Speaker 3: I don't want him in the freaking war machine suit. No,
I want him on the ground, boots on the ground.
Speaker 1: He still does that. He just travels along quicker, you know,
but fair enough fair enough.
Speaker 3: Too much scroll associations now with.
Speaker 1: Character that's fair to what Kirkland said. That is one
thing surprised me that they did. They must be confident.
They didn't even wait to see what the Daredevil streaming
numbers are.
Speaker 3: Like, because what he had to do is wait a
week or two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this just comes out and it's like, oh, fuck,
actually no one cares about Daredevil anymore.
Speaker 4: And they could supplement Daredevil too, write like they like
hearing the like Punishers coming out and then it's like, oh,
that's attached to Daredevil. Maybe I want to punch Daredevil now.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It seems like a like a like a minor niche
category of people that they're kind a pitch to jump
on a Daredevil.
Speaker 2: But they seem to.
Speaker 1: Be happy with it because season two starts on Friday
for Daredevil season like filming, and then they got Punisher.
So I have some more stuff that me and Dylan
are gonna talk about with MCU shows because the Brad
winderbaughn like confirmed that, yeah, we're not doing the Ecoy
show like they It sounds like that's what's so interesting
about Star Wars DC Marvel like sounds like Disney plus
in general is going a completely different route now with
Marvel stuff. He even said some of the things, but
I'll save that for Thursday. I mean, mister Muss will
talk about that Tarfield Punisher.
Speaker 6: I think that this is gonna be I mean awesome.
I mean, I loved seeing Punisher and Brenthala is this
character in the Daredevil show. It was really funny how
heavily involved he was in season two and how we
just got the whole court case just focusing on him,
and it's just so much just really focusing on this character.
Speaker 2: So for me, it was really cool to just kind
of connect with him.
Speaker 6: And I think that getting a little bit more of
a focal point on this character is going to be great.
To have a little bit of like a special presentation
on him too, is awesome. I'm gonna definitely be there,
and like we're joking and talking about earlier, I'm totally
down to watch Punisher. He sees the season one and two.
I did not realize he had a second season. That's
pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: I feel like Dylan am I wrong in saying is
it a short season? Season two? I feel like I
remember being small because I remember Iron Fist two was shorter.
I feel like Punisher they maybe did that.
Speaker 3: I can barely remember how to spell my own name.
Sometimes I have no idea how many that's.
Speaker 1: How are you looking that up right now? Or is
this back to the porn?
Speaker 2: Back to the porn?
Speaker 1: Okay, damn Punish.
Speaker 3: Ser are rated.
Speaker 1: I completely forgot it because I only thought about YouTube boys.
I didn't even think it because I've been waiting for
a chance. I'm gonna fucking announce this right here. We're
just gonna do a full and Punished a retro because
I forgot. There's three movies we can retro. Punish your
war Zone, Yeah, there's Jolph, Yeah, there's Adulph Langern one
from the nineties. There's the two thousand and four one
with Thomas Jane and John Travolta, and then there's Punisher
Warzone with Ray Steveson. So we got those three movies
as well. So, yeah, Punisher Retrospective twenty twenty six logo
for its been because there's a couple we've still have done,
like the two thousand and three Hulk, We've still have
done a lecture, so there's still a couple of that
old Marvel guard we have not done.
Speaker 6: But Uhyorfield, there's twenty six twenty six episodes thirteen and thirteen.
Speaker 1: No, I guess I just remember being reduced but there
you go. So but uh yeah, look.
Speaker 3: Up for those iron fist I guess right that season
just because.
Speaker 1: I think that, uh that season one?
Speaker 2: Get rid of this?
Speaker 5: How come we in this sooner?
Speaker 1: And my last question for you to do you agree
with Punisher's methods, Like in the real world, would you
be doing that?
Speaker 2: Would I be doing that in a war machine suit?
Speaker 1: Would you like someone doing that?
Speaker 2: I mean if I had the war machine suit. Sure.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 6: I think his level of justice is pretty bad.
Speaker 2: It's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was just joking. I didn't think he'd actually
take the bait I support. He's just like really political.
Speaker 4: Well, since you bring it up, yeah, on my mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my cousin's been on a ramp page. But let's
start there with Daredevil predictions. What do we think they
actually do with Punisher? How many episodes in he is
he in? What's his arc? We see him long hair beard?
Do we see him shaving? That's why I've shaven the
head like that, because it's the Punisher. I fuck man
John Birth I'll he has some curly hair that I
can't pull off. But that's that's the look. Now. So
what do we do with Frank Castle in this season
of Born Again?
Speaker 3: How many episodes again in this niner? Yeah, I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna say three episodes, one of them being just
like a teaser in the way that we saw like
Dared Devil's Man in She Hulk.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: But two episodes where there's there's some meat on the bone.
Speaker 1: I think you're perfectly in the ballpark. I might say
three in an end credit, because now with this special presentation,
maybe they do something.
Speaker 3: To set end credit. Yeah, good call, I think that.
Speaker 1: Might be something. Did anyone have to look if anyone
draft him? I can't remember if anyone did. I'll take
a look when someone's talking. The only thing I don't
know what the whole storyline is, right, because Fisk's running
for mayor, and it seems like maybe him and Matt
start working together, and they of course divert divert, and
Fist goes off the deep end, and you know, something
happens with Vanessa. Imagine if Frank kills Vanessa, fuck man,
that would be that's a special as fists, imagine a fist.
But what I do want is because I said this
is so I apologize to Dylan and you let listen
to those reviews. I pitched this all the time. In
season two, they set up Fisk versus Punisher, and we've
never cycled back to, like Punisher said, like, when you
get out of here, I'm gonna find you, know, man,
a fucking kill you like because it's such a great
story of Fisk lets the Punisher out just to go
kill other crime people and then so when he can
get out, he can be the top dog. But then
Punisher is waiting for him. Of course I'm Punisher. A
bunch of family drama happens, best friend's bad, all this stuff, right,
all this, all these little twizz and twines. My hope
is that we get back to because that scene and
now that these two the scene it the scene of
them in the prison together, that's a top tier Daredevil
episode of Punisher versus Fisk. So I that's the only
thing I'm hoping. I don't think it's gonna happen in
the season, but that's what I want, as I want
a berth All uh Dinofrio scene and a content there
I really love, and that plays big in the Spider
Man and Maids series, Like I want Punisher versus Fisk
if you tell me too, if that's a special fuck, yeah,
Like I'm there, Like, give us that rematch of them
fighting in the jail, so this time Frank doesn't have
the cuffs. Let's go. I'm excited. But what he does?
I think what Dyan said, he you tease him, you
meet him, he gets in there, and then he's maybe
they set up somebody's back and he's gonna kill him.
Speaker 4: Hopefully it's not, but yeah, I know, I think you
guys are pretty much there with where I would be
thinking he would be maybe reduced it by an episode
I feel like, definitely set up for a potential end
credit leading into something, but I feel like it would
be kind of just him helping out a situation more
so than like being a big part of the show,
just because we had that in season two already of Daredevil.
And that's not me saying I don't want it because
I think he like season two might be my favorite
out of the Daredevil three. I really really love the
inclusion of that character and just the storyline around him.
But I'm ready to be born again and you know,
travel into a different realm and not just rehash the
same story that we had with Frank Cassel.
Speaker 5: Not meant like, but I do want him to appear.
Speaker 4: Obviously he's gonna appear, so that's great, but I want
it to be just a more supplementary role and then
have him on his because it just seemed like at
the end of season two of Daredevil as well, it's like, Okay,
he's he's gonna go get the war machine suit and
fuck up some guy. Now I'm kidding, but like like
he like he's ready to go undo something. So here
I want to kind of see quickly what he's been
doing and then how he's able to help out Comrade. Uh,
what's his name, Matt, I said Charlie I.
Speaker 1: Will I will say, so we don't have a Defender's
Daredevil's season three when you're saying you want to know
what he's been up to, they do answer that and
punish her season one and two. So I don't think
they're gonna directly go yeah, yeah, I don't think they're
gonna directly recap the entire show. But I am wondering,
like in that show Daredevil wants Frank to be in prison.
He thinks he should be in prison. So I'm really
wondering what the dynamic this go around is. It's like,
is that still not a thing? Has he just been like, yeah, whatever,
I just accept Frank's a killer now, But it feels
like he's always very like, no, we need like you're
sick and you should be locked up. So but they
look like they're working together, So I'm very curious how
that goes or if it's like a oh, after this,
I'm gonna lock you up and Frank gets out of
there as always. I'm curious what the dynamic is for
Mad and how how deep he is into the.
Speaker 5: It's like a catwoman Batman situation.
Speaker 1: Those two, there are a couple now that'd be great.
Taylor Honey Punisher.
Speaker 6: Predictions, Oh my goodness. I mean you highlighted some really
really good ones with the season two of Daredevil, because yeah,
there's a lot going on that they don't kind of
follow through, and I just kind of figured, well, maybe
Fisk pops up and punish her.
Speaker 2: Season one and two.
Speaker 6: I was pissed the whole time because he really just
lays a down heart on him like I'm gonna come
and like fucking find you, and like he's pissed off
he was set up by my Fisk, So that's a
shame that they don't kind of touch upon that again.
Speaker 2: But uh, I don't know what.
Speaker 6: My predictions would be, and that's just because I feel
like there's still a lot I don't know about the character.
I really don't know where he was really just running
off to at the end of the Daredevil show, and
what he's trying to do now, what his motivations and
his goals are now that he kind of found the
truth about his family.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to predict really.
Speaker 6: I mean, he just finds another city with criminals and
just starts killing them.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, at least because you guys watched the
Punisher show sets up that there's more people to the
family situation, so they didn't they didn't close that off.
There's certain people that yes, that's what that's about. Here,
here's a phone one. I want to ask everybody, what's
the Punisher's kill count in this show? Ooh, my lives?
Does he take? I'm gonna say I'm gonna say six.
Speaker 6: I'm going to six double digits for sure.
Speaker 1: Double digits, Oh my god, fifteen if he's only in
a couple episodes, he's a busy boy. Okay, here's double
digits fifteen.
Speaker 3: I'll go look at number three.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: Oh, I was gonna go low to.
Speaker 2: I'll do.
Speaker 5: Lucky number seven.
Speaker 1: Lucky number seven, okay.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Super Mike asked, do you think we'll finally get some
concrete answers on how can Pik go out of the
deal he made with Daredevil at the end of season three?
That dangling thread still bugs me absolutely. I think so
because the idea was, like Matt had this stuff on him,
and if Kingpin go out of prison, he would send
Vanessa to prison, right, and Vanessa a big character for
a right Kirkland Taylor. I think they will also. I
also think people don't. I know, it's kind of lame
as a crutch, but like the blip did happen, and
I feel like a lot of ship that they can
just go like, well, this this and this happened in
the blip and we had to do this, and oh
my god, Vanessa, oh boy, I'll kill you that he
would take down that. Imagine that and the poorls just
like you took everything from me and I don't even
know where you are. So I think they will answer
that somehow loopoi. I think they. I think they kind
of have to if they just go like, well, yeah,
I figured out how Vanessa won't go to prison. They
don't tell us. That'd be kind of lame, but I
think they will.
Speaker 5: I think so too, or just Vanessa died between shows,
we just never see.
Speaker 1: That she's there, but they because originally they they recast her,
and then when they did that whole shooting the show over,
they brought the original actress back.
Speaker 5: Then since like you recasted.
Speaker 1: Because he is in the channel famous questions, Dultina is too.
He asked, Uh, do we think there's gonna be any
MCU cameos in this show?
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I would like, like who likely characters would be?
Speaker 4: Someone that's already interacted with Matt in the past, So
of course we got she Hulk comes to mind her.
Speaker 5: Okay, won't be her?
Speaker 1: There, goes answered echo, Yeah, I comedic for what they're
gonna go for here. And I feel like, because some
people are like fuck the show, I don't think they're
gonna do it.
Speaker 3: I'll go with uh, happy Hogan.
Speaker 1: That's a good get. And that's like a full circle.
Speaker 3: Why is it a full circle Spider Man circle back?
Speaker 6: Yes, I would say Spider Man Peter Parker too.
Speaker 1: No, that's why it's a full circle because he played
That's where I was going. He played Foggy Nelson in
the Daredevil movie. Remember I don't know Ben Affleck. Yeah, yeah,
he's his Foggy.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So that's why that that'd be a very fun full circle. Yeah,
Foggy would be great or sorry would be great. I
would love it. This would be the most hype one
never gonna happen if the season ends, because fucking you know,
Brave New World gives nothing. But imagine those wings collapse
and someone lands and health kitchen and its fucking Falcon
and he's asking them about to be doing the Avengers.
I don't think they're gonna draft daredebl Avengers, but man Falcons,
I feel like, no, I guess Captain America.
Speaker 3: That's why I feel like that would be happiest job
based on what happened in Deadpool.
Speaker 1: That was before the blip though, so that's why it's
probably changed now. That scene yeah, yeah, that scene happened. Yeah,
I don't know, it's not gonna be Spider Man. I
know people want that that's not happening. I would love it.
I think we've probably yes, Scrody, I would love it
if it was like a Kate Bishop. They call him
a Marvel alliance Scroti Chris. I would love Kate Bishop
her to be fighting crime in New York and then
to bump into each other. But like, honestly, like if
we don't get anybody else, I'm kind of fine because
we got punished her. I know it's not MCO camera,
but that's all I really need. But I don't know,
I guess, and like if it's Marvel, we're all. The
other one I'm hoping for is Jessica Jones. I would
love to see Christian Ritter back.
Speaker 3: You know, that's it sounds big. One the rumors that
was that it's gonna happen and then it like didn't happen, right,
but because.
Speaker 1: Show that got canceled, so you know, pick the wrong
horse there.
Speaker 3: Pick the wrong horse. I mean I feel like that.
I think they'll do like, yeah, we'll have some of
those ones from the Marvel Netflix bringing those characters back
for sure, but I feel like they gotta have some
MU stuff just to really solidify to people and prove like, hey,
this is this is the m C now. I mean,
I guess he's alread appeared in a couple of things,
but just to make it clear, I feel like they
want to do a little bit of that be the
talk of the town. And so I think you have
one or two small ones in there, but nothing to media.
I don't think.
Speaker 1: This is why I hate that Moonnight. Like went to
Egypt and there's a fighting alligator yea, Like if they.
Speaker 3: Went with the Moon Night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where if they were in The Moon Night where
he was a New York crime fighter, that would have
been so cool to have, like practical suit.
Speaker 3: It's still possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still it's still it's still there.
Speaker 3: Doing these days. Name one movie he's been in the
last three years, Tune it was like five years ago.
Speaker 1: He's for He's in a garamud Del Tour movie coming
up next. He's in a Frankenstein movie. He plays Frankenstein
and Jacob Lordi's the monster.
Speaker 3: So okay, he's worri It's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who the bride Oh the brides me
a golf So fuck that's gonna be That's gonna be good, Taylor.
Any MCU people, and we get your precious iron fist here.
Speaker 6: I would hope we get the legendary Danny.
Speaker 1: N get.
Speaker 6: I was a Colleen Colleen Wing Colleen get her in
there too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm super down to have some of those those recurring
characters pop back in. But I would love to have
some some larger than life mc you familiar faces pop in.
Speaker 1: Who's your pick them?
Speaker 6: I mean I would love to see I would love
to see Spider Man, but you said that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: No Sony will of that happen.
Speaker 6: Uh. Aside from that, would also be pretty cool to see.
Speaker 2: Uh the Scars and New.
Speaker 6: York Norman Osborne throw a Norman Osborne Oscorp Tower in there,
that would be pretty hype.
Speaker 1: Scar might be in New York. I don't actually know.
I guess she was in New York.
Speaker 5: She was somewhere the grave in New York.
Speaker 1: Punisher killed him.
Speaker 3: Or King King kills him? Is that?
Speaker 1: Where's Vanessa's still not back? She's like that Martin Star
character where she pretended she was dead, like after the blip,
but she didn't actually from Yeah, that's what she's like. Yeah,
anybody you said someone big, but you inspire you larger
than life, larger than life.
Speaker 2: In life, someone is super super big.
Speaker 6: Ben Uh, I would probably want to see. Yeah, Thor
is not going to pop in there. And I can't
see a hawk popping in there. Take a doctor Strange
popping in They're in New.
Speaker 1: York, you know. Oh yeah, I want Charlie to get
in there. I know they're happy that he's in the
TV world, but just now I'm back to where we
were in Netflix from like, I just want to be
back in the movies too.
Speaker 2: But he did make He wasn't a movie I.
Speaker 1: Know, but like one seeing like again, and now it
sounds like we're not doing the team. If we're Inspirement
and Daredevil in four, then I'd be happy. But Tom
also asked what is something you hope is improved upon
for the new Deptflix Daredevil show that was opposed to
that show a post to the Netflix show Sorry side,
I've heard there's some maybe wonky CGI and the show
is a little disappointing, But what I would want and
I bet this is where it is I want Matt
and Daredevil to be more of a gymnast. That's what
I loved about the way he moved in Silk, that
moment where she like looks off the building and he's
like flipping around everything. Like in the comics. There's so
many panels of him jumping and doing crazy flips, and
he has his batons that have like the hooks and everything,
like I want them to the Netflix shows. I appreciate
that they went very grounded, but they also didn't have
the budget for that. If this is given them a
little bit more budget, I do want I don't want
to go crazy, but I would just love to see
Matt flipping around a lot because it's you know, it's
like a Batman thing where there are aerial fighters as
well too, so and give him the double ds as well.
They haven't given them double d's. I think this is
the best version of suit, But why is there still
no d's on there? So don't worry Delton. You worded
it bad and I read it bad. So we're a
winning combo here, don't worry. So but we know what
she meant. But yeah, and I guess I'll say this
for the desk but like less of storylines I don't
care about AKA, like I'm not sad if we lose Foggy.
And there's lots of times where I just felt like Netflix,
like we need something for Foggy to do. Let's send
them to the biker club. It's like I don't need that.
The same way of like I don't like that Matt
has a new girlfriend and I'm so worried. It's like, oh,
she's a tough cop on the side and here's her,
just like I don't I really don't want that. I'm
fine with and I like care more than Foggy, but
I'm literally just fun with just madd and Kingpin and
go from there and have people come in. But it's
just like I hate when this is nine episodes, so
maybe not so I would like that where I don't
need Foggy and what's his girlfriend's name? I can't remember
what was? Yeah, Marcie, Yeah, she's like call it like
not that she was a bunch by just being like
sometimes feel like those characters were just needed something to do.
It's like, just give Charlie Cox more time. All with
pay Moore, Well, doesn't fucking Pam. He's great, so that's
my thing is Darede will be more gymnasts and less
side plots that are just gonna fhiil like filler.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's because that's been a long time since
I've watched the show. It's hard for me to really
remember anything I don't like, which is a good sign,
of course, but I think it would be that for
me is like those shows always had some what felt
like filler storylines in the side, and I kind of
feel like that's not really an MCU thing. If we
look at like the Disney Plus shows, I mean, they're
not very long generally speaking, and I feel like they
are pretty to the point there isn't a ton of
weird stuff happening on the side. There's a little bit
of it, So I guess that would be mine too,
just like just focus, zoom in focus, have a good time.
Speaker 1: The tough thing though, is if in Netflix they focus,
I don't think you and me Dylan would have got
meach and Ward because that's one of those stories that
complete side character doing random stuff. That.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's different when like the main guy why
you're the show's selling point is weak and you need
something like that to fill it in with Daredevil, he's great.
We don't need stuff on the side to fill in
the blanks.
Speaker 1: I love you just watched all Daredevil. Any anything you
want to prove upon.
Speaker 6: I would I appreciate not having like four or five
episodes of just sulking Matt Murdoch.
Speaker 1: Well, then you're in the wrong place because this that's
what Daredebel does.
Speaker 6: Like if I watched, then it would have made sense, right,
I would have understood, like why he's so down the dump.
Speaker 1: But okay, first of all, you don't think in season
one and two, Matt it's like a depressed character at times.
He's always he's at the building.
Speaker 3: This guy's apartment. It's we get the reasoning and.
Speaker 6: The build up towards it when certain things happen, and
some backstory. But this it was just like, you know,
he wakes up in the rubble and then he's just looking.
Speaker 1: He didn't watch Defenders. I did before people listen to review.
I did tell these guys to at least watch a
YouTube video about Defenders, and they did not. When you
get finance interview, they're like, maybe this HA made this happened,
Like they're.
Speaker 3: Like, they could have just watched me and Travis's review.
Speaker 1: You, yeah, there is Keith.
Speaker 4: You know it took so long.
Speaker 1: Daredel is often depressed. I thought you were gonna just
say lest Kingpin or something, because you guys are just
haters over here.
Speaker 5: So less Sulky and Kingpin as well, just to adn't
on to what Taylor said.
Speaker 4: No, I it's funny. I agree with everything that you
guys said for like just what I would change, So
definitely I'll agree there. I probably more aligned with Taylor
on the fact of not just because Matt is so
in between the dourness and just fighting like his internal
faith and stuff like that, and like, if that's that,
that's who the character is, that's who the character is.
I just want to feel like I'm grow, like he's
evolved and he's growing, because we did three seasons of
Daredevil of him doing that, and if this is just
back to square one where he's just going over the
same types of emotions of like, is what.
Speaker 1: I'm doing right?
Speaker 2: Should I go further?
Speaker 5: Should I go to the level of killing someone like
I should?
Speaker 4: Like I I feel like we've already gone down that road,
So I I just wanted to feel like an evolved
Matt Murdock here and not just well, it's a new
MCU Daredevil here, so it's gonna we're gonna have to
maybe cover stuff that we already did because not everyone
watched Daredevil Netflix.
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like, based on that critique, gonna be happy
with this season. I feel like probably.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think my thoughts on on those retros,
but I I feel like I found out a lot
about Daredevil and it's like, man, this character is actually
maybe not as aligned with what I like about characters.
Like I thought you would be great, look great fight scenes.
I do want more comic bookie type fight scenes, like
acrobatics like what you said, Travis, we got that in
Spider Man.
Speaker 5: That was really cool, did we?
Speaker 1: I'm like, what kind of no at home did I miss?
Speaker 3: Like you popped off.
Speaker 1: He's on the Statue of Liberty with the three sermen.
Speaker 3: Hey guys, when they throw the barrick, he actually jumped
out the window, grabbed the barrick, threw it back at
the event.
Speaker 1: The shit Defender and locked into prison. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh, the super micas what does he mean? The short
er agrees like the show agrees with it. Matt and
Burnock being too negative.
Speaker 1: There was a quote I think you must not be
in the discord where he said he didn't want I
can't remember the wording, but I'm pretty much paraphrasing where
they didn't want the show to be a bunch of
the heroes sitting around talking about what does it mean
to be a hero and sulking all that they didn't
say sulking. For me, that's not a good sign because
like the best moment of the show is Punisher and
Daredevil on the rooftop talking about what does mean to
be a hero and Punisher being like, well, you're not
actually a hero because you put them down, they get up.
I put them down, they stay down, you know. Like
I think my worry is they keep the two things
everyone keeps saying in these interviews is like it's really
mature and it's just like Netflix. But I feel like
they don't talk about the actual show. And I think
there is a reason why the critics have only seen
two episodes. I'm not saying I want to be negative,
but it is Disney Plus and we've been there. But
we've been there before when Secret Invasions started good right,
and there's a decline so I think, like as much
as you guys bring it up, like I think that
might be a thing that that's just that's always Daredevil.
He's always like dealing with who is he and what
does he mean for the city. So that's just Dare
double like all the time. So I think you do
lose some of the core stuff there. And yeah, I
am I have not liked many of the showrunners comments.
I can't remember some other stuff he said, but there's
other And even when you just start me like, oh
we did something even more gnarlier than Netflix, it is
just like all right, Like again, like the show. I
didn't watch the show for it to be mature. I
didn't watch it because I won the action scenes that's great,
But I watched it for the character stuff. But we'll see.
Maybe he's just a bad interviewer, you know, so possible. Yeah,
any major deaths, you know, a Dulton assa, but we
always talk about deaths. I fog he's a goner, he's
a dead man. Why do you say that he's just done.
Speaker 2: I just think it's the comics.
Speaker 1: Everybody dies in the comics. Matt's he's dying in the comics,
and Electra took over, so I don't think that's happening.
I just think Foggy is a dead man with certain
things they've talked about. Instead of just like, oh, we're
some big stuff's gonna happen. We want to make big
moves and and just I think Foggy is he's uh,
he's no more. And I'm I'm okay with that because
I never loved the Foggy Nelson Netflix character. I like
the combic version a bit more so. And I don't
think so I better not be Kingpin. Kingpin better stay
alive and he better not end up in prison again.
Like I don't need to go back to prison. There
there's where he gets away with it, and that has
to struggle with that because they're if they're doing a
season two or like I guess it's born against season two.
I think it's yeah, like maybe Kingpin loses, but not
back to prison, because season one he went to prison,
Season two it was about him being in prison. Then
season three he went back to prison. So have him
or have him win, have him beat their devil this season,
have the good guy lose and like that's another thing.
Speaker 3: War moment leading in the second season. Maybe maybe yeah,
or and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I don't think it's at their own possibility
that Vanessa dies either, and that was gonna pick that
could be something that could be that because imagine Darede
or Kingpin going next season like we mean about it,
but imagine literally someone or imagine Matt Murray accidentally killing
me and as something like Kingpin is gonna lose it.
So I I would kind of like them to kill
the Nessa, even though I really like that actress.
Speaker 3: So two, I mean that would be Goodrick, those are
good ones. I don't know if I what about Karen.
You think she's she's good, she's chilling, I.
Speaker 1: Think so, yeah, And I hope I hope they get
her in that Punisher special or whatever, because that's my
ship right there they have. Yeah, yeah, so I would
I hope. I like Karen. So she killed one guy, Okay,
just takes one Wesley, that was self defense, he was
gonna kill her. That doesn't count as I kill like come.
Speaker 5: On, but counts it's ask Kingpin and accounts.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I agree with the Foggy thing, not
as I think Vanessa could be the second next season potentially,
but yeah, I think Foggy's had his time in the sun.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I really like Foggy, so I don't want
him to die. I really like his character a lot,
so innocent and justice.
Speaker 3: He is a good guy.
Speaker 6: He's what was justice?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a proud word right there. That's not a
real words. All worlds are made up. What about Benjamin
point Dexter Bullseye? Is he gonna make it out because
he's in the season. So is he is in the season? Yeah?
Is he gonna make it out?
Speaker 6: He's got the suit now too, doesn't he?
Speaker 2: I think he does. Yeah, he's gonna be.
Speaker 5: The one that kills Vanessa.
Speaker 1: He should f fist does everything. But no, I think
they'll I think they'll keep them. I think I hope
so too. I want them to keep Bull's Eye around.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's alive. Yeah, who else is there?
That's kind of everyone?
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: They're introducing White Tiger, so he could always die. He's
another street fighter fight character, but like his daughter's the
more popular one. At one point, there's a big rumor
that Jen Artago is playing his daughter, But that's not
a true at all.
Speaker 2: That's just his name is White Tiger? Is what you said?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? White Tiger.
Speaker 6: What's the daughter's superhero name, White Tiger.
Speaker 1: She takes some mantles.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, good snap card.
Speaker 1: Yeah he dies and she's White Tiger. So I think
he'll die. And I'm not saying because the actors unfortunate
passway since they filmed. I just think that they're going
to set up the daughter taking the mantle.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I think we'll get new
people who die potentially. But yes, I think especially with
the season, with the season kind of being split into two,
like you don't want to overload this first half with
just yeah bodies, you know you got to save.
Speaker 5: Some of Ugo who will die.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we mass new girlfriend. I don't know her name,
but she's a girl. I don't know what she does
if not looked into. But he does have a new girlfriend,
Like does she die? Does she know he's Daredel does
she not? Like there's another storyline where I don't also
need where it's like I love that we have Foggy
in Karen. They know he's Daredevil. That's not that's checked off.
If we just get to like, oh, he's got another
girl and she doesn't know. I don't need that. I
also don't need that in the show for me.
Speaker 3: Good point. I think he la. I think they break
up early on because he's too busy being Daredevil.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think she dies. I think I can see
fist killing her.
Speaker 5: Jesus a Vanessa for Vanessa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I took your Vanessa. Her name is Sharon. Any
other other than I know to something cooking over there,
but anything else prediction wise, we've not covered post credits.
I just feel like, yeah, Punisher Sai, they have Daredel's
season two probably like those two things. Yes Jones? Is
that where you could see Jones? Like if you were
to do something maybe Davy Jones, wouldn't that be massive?
It's just like Harrison Ford, Hey, Red like Time Traveler
now Red Hule.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I season two is it? Is it coming next year?
For sure?
Speaker 1: At this That's what they said this week.
Speaker 3: So I just I just like there's not a lot
of There isn't really room to do some big setting
them up for Avengers kind of thing right just because
of that, so I think it will just be boring,
Like how how how long ago do you guy think
they knew they were gonna do this Punisher thing? Because
that's news now but like, has that been in the
works or is that a pretty knee jerk reaction to
recent developments and other cancelations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough because they canceled those three shows and
there's other things. I would say in Q four they
probably sat across it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm gonna say that, maybe that's not what
we're gonna get here. Then as a post credit, maybe
that's just too reactive. It wasn't enough in development, you know,
even know they can quickly film one scene and throw
it in there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was gonna say. I guess they did
say that punishing things come out next year, though, So
I feel like they're confident enough to be far along
be like, yeah, it's coming out next year afestly the
light It's gonna always happen, right, But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Taylor, let's end this episode laying honest, Well, we'll
take another ad break and then lay it on. We'll
be right back. All right, We're back, just kids. Sorry.
Speaker 3: One other thing, do you guys think this show is
gonna do well? Numbers wise? Is it gonna is it
gonna break some records? Is it gonna be a part
for the cooruse, middle of the pack, bottom tier Disney
plus where's this one going?
Speaker 1: I hope we get the numbers. I'm gonna say, like
I was just gonna say bottom of the top tier,
but I'm just I just don't know what the hype
for Daredevil is like in a good way. I could
see it being bigger because I think bottom of the
top tiers like moon Night, because I think it's like
like low key Wanda Vision Falcon, Hawkeye and Moon. I
think actually Moon Night is like tied with hawk Ar something,
So I feel like it's gonna be like in the
ball like the Hawkeye Moonnight. Realm, That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say upper echelon of those tiers,
but like what you said, Travis, like the bottom of
the upper.
Speaker 1: Being low key, you know, or Wanda like not being
those too.
Speaker 3: So I'll go I'll go number three. It becomes the third.
Speaker 1: Your velan Winter Soldier.
Speaker 2: I could see that, sure, why not? I could see
three or four? I'm with you, Dylan Nice, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Hey, what was the prompt you uh put in
the chatpt to get did you ask for a season?
Speaker 7: Four?
Speaker 1: Did you ask for a season to show television would
you ask it for?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: So, first I said, uh, do you know the Disney
Plus series Hawkeye and Echoes? Like yes, since that I
wanted to make sure it knew its history just to
pull from.
Speaker 2: And then I said, okay, perfect.
Speaker 6: Are you also familiar with the Netflix show Daredevil and
the other characters affiliated with that for Dared Devil's three seasons?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but I haven't seen Defenders? Is that what?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Knows a Defenders? No, never heard of it.
Speaker 6: So I wrote, okay, perfect, So between that Netflix series
and the two Disney Plus series and other appearances with
Dared Devil, can you write me a one season story
for the.
Speaker 3: New fucking bought over here?
Speaker 6: So that's why that's why I basically dropped it. I
also mentioned too, like make sure you know that this
is connecting into the larger overall Marvel Somatic universe. But
that's that's it, So goddamn it starts. It starts off.
It's the main show. The name of this show is
called Daredevil Shadow War instead of Born Again.
Speaker 1: And because like, I hate that they're calling it born Again.
That was season three they adapted to the storyline.
Speaker 6: But here we are, so uh, so episode one, The
Devil's Return, Matt Murdoch, now a low profile defense attorney
after the events of She Hulk, is reluctantly pulled back
into action when Karen Page and Foggy Nelson.
Speaker 1: I gotta stop your wady, they say he's a low
profile defense attorney. That, yeah, would make no sense. It's
like the last timing saw of his case with Spider Man,
which would be one of the biggest cases in the world.
You're you're now defending the guy that they revealed a
Spider Man Avenger.
Speaker 6: There's no one remembers Spider Man. No one remembers that
Peter Parker Spider Man, so it's not.
Speaker 1: There's record anymore. But that doesn't make sense. So we're
not gonna get into that.
Speaker 6: Could be record because it would have been wiped Doctor
Strange magic.
Speaker 1: So what about like all all the records in the
court would be wiped, so all footage of Peter Parker
would be wiped too. Doesn't know that's what happened. It
said that people forgot about Peter Parker, not that he
didn't exist, So.
Speaker 6: Then the case would be forgotten about.
Speaker 1: But there's still a video footage of Peter Parker. No
one's gonna and there's still a thing of like Spider
Man was defended people. People know of Spider Man, they
know who Spider Man is. Yeah, but but Matt Murdoch
defended Spider Man, defended Peter for being Spider Man.
Speaker 2: I think I don't think it's gonna work out in court.
Speaker 1: I think everyone knowing after all? Okay, low profile.
Speaker 6: Sure, So Karen Page and Foggy Nelson on cover evidence
that Fisk is rigging the upcoming mayor mayoral election. At
the same time, Peter Parker Spider Man investigates a series
of brutal gang killings that seemed connected.
Speaker 1: Brutal gang gang killings. Oh geez, sure, bloody.
Speaker 6: Brutal gangkillings that seemed connected to someone he thought had disappeared,
Frank Castle.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: Daredevil suits up again, only to find Fisk's reaches deeper
than ever.
Speaker 2: In a shocking moment, Foggy is murdered.
Speaker 3: By Wait is this episode one?
Speaker 2: Still?
Speaker 6: It is episode one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Foggy's gone.
Speaker 6: Sending Matt into a spiral of guilt and rage. Meanwhile,
Vanesca Vanessa Fisk is seen pulling political strings behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Lost Vanessa in the Bli Vanesca.
Speaker 3: This episode is six hours long.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, on here, So she's pulling political strings
behind the scenes and showing her husband's rise to power.
Episode two, The King City, Fisk wins the election, making
it nearly impossible to touch him legally. His first order
a new anti vichel Anti task force led by a
dangerous figure Benjamin Point Dexter Bullseye, freshly released from a
hidden government government facility and under Fisk's control. Uh Matt,
grieving Foggy's death, struggles with his morality, while Karen spirals
into reckless investigative journalism.
Speaker 2: Jaredevil Spider Man.
Speaker 3: Crossed Pass spirals into reckless journalism.
Speaker 2: Reckless investigative journalism.
Speaker 1: Spirals into something else because she's like a drug. Add
I thought that too, so I thought that's where we're going.
Speaker 3: But reckless journalism is like an oxy moral that is crazy.
Speaker 6: Just Frank Castle, the Daredevil and Spider Man cross Pass
investigating the escalating crime wave. Meanwhile, Castle hunts down Fisks lieutenants,
brutally executing them one by one, leaving the city in terror. Vanessa, meanwhile,
begins to question the extent of her husband's brutality creating
a subtle tension between them.
Speaker 1: Okay, come on season four and you're like, maybe he's
a bad guy.
Speaker 6: Episode three, Shadows and City, Jared, Devil and Spider Man
investigate a secret arms deal between Fisks people and Rogue
remnants of the Hand. Peter, still adjusting to being completely
forgotten by the world, confides in Mad about his struggles. Meanwhile, Frank, Meanwhile,
Uh Frank captures and tortures a high ranking crime boss,
uncovering evidence that Fisk has a hidden agenda beyond mere
political power Pointdexter begins his relentless hunt for Daredevil, leading
to a brutal rooftop battle that ends with Matt barely escaping.
Vanessa plays a quiet of pivotal role, organizing alliances between
her husband's criminal associates.
Speaker 3: Whoever.
Speaker 6: Frank, having covered her involvement, ambushes her at a private gala.
She narrowly escapes with her life shaken, but determined.
Speaker 1: That does have to be probably one most scary things ever.
You just see, like door gets kicked and it's just
Frank in the war machines. This is the ex wife.
Speaker 6: Episode four, Blood on the Streets, Fisk unveils the citywide
surveillance system to track down vigilantes, forcing Matt, Peter, and
Frank to rethink their approach. Karen is hospitalized, leaving Matt
feeling utterly alone. Fisk personally lures Daredevil into a trap,
leading to one of the most brutal fights in the series.
Pointdexter mortally wounds Jessica Jones, who sacrifices herself to save
Matt and.
Speaker 1: Hey, Christy, we like you back. I just got some
question about the script. I'm coming back and kill me off. Yeah,
we want to close out the Netflix.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 1: So Bullseye kills her, you're saying, boys, Bullseye kills her.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: She sacrifices herself to save Matt in an alleyway ambush. Meanwhile, Castle,
and an act of sheer vengeance, executes an entire gang
oyl to Fisk, leaving a bloody message no kings, holy shit. Vanessa,
still reeling from her near death experience, urges Fists to
consider an exit strategy before they lose everything.
Speaker 2: Episode five, No.
Speaker 6: Man's Land, Uh we got yeah? Okay, This and three
more episodes with the city in lockdown, vigilantes being hunted, Daredevil,
Spider Man, Frank Castle form an uneasy alliance. Karen is
kidnapped by Fisks men and used as bait. Peter infiltrates
FIST tower and covering files, indicating a secret project, the
Rebirth Initiative, an attempt to create super enhanced.
Speaker 2: Forcers loyal to Fisk.
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Bullseye, now completely unhinged, tracks down and kills Detective Mahoney,
a long time ally of Matt's, intensifying the stakes. Vanessa,
realizing Fisk will never stop, begins making plans of her
own Episode six war on two fronts. As Castle continues
his war, he faces off the gamest fisks personal enforcer
and old adversary John Pilgrim from Punish Her Season two okay. Meanwhile,
Matt breaks into a high security black site to rescue Karen,
only to find her tortured and barely alive. Spider Man
battles Bullseye and a high speechase across the city skyline,
leading to a shocking moment. Roles I nearly kills Peter,
only for Daredevil to save him. At the last second.
Fisk orders full martial law in Hell's kitchen, they can't
clear that no one is saved. In a grim turn,
Frank is captured and publicly executed by FISKS forces.
Speaker 2: O my wow.
Speaker 1: So wait first see Furnisher and king Fin fight. It's
just Kingston's forces execute you know, Berthall would fucking kill
that scene though, like the do it like you would
destroy that scene, sending.
Speaker 6: Setting a terrifying message to the city. Vanessa seeing the
monster Fisk, has become against contemplating leaving him.
Speaker 1: For he killed the.
Speaker 3: Trying to kill her.
Speaker 1: One of the most diabolical motherfuckers in comic's history. Like,
I can't believe you killed the Punisher, Wilson, how could
you do that?
Speaker 6: Episode seven, The Fall of the King, The final battle begins, Daredevil,
Spider Man and what remains of the street level h
Rose lunching all out assault on FISKS Empire. Luke Cage arrives,
but even he is overwhelmed by Fisks sheer brute force.
Speaker 3: Okay, does he die or is he just getting knocked out?
Speaker 1: Overwhelmed cake fan, I can sometimes be like two percent
body fat. Luke Cage can take Bazukas to the chest
like he should do, like he.
Speaker 6: Gets between him and Vanessa.
Speaker 1: Though yeah, okay.
Speaker 6: Karen barely able to walk helps expose Fisks crimes.
Speaker 1: To the public. What a terrible season for her? Sad hospitalized, kidnapped, torture, Yeah,
Jesus bare dogg he's dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Helps expose fist crimes to the public, triggering mass riots.
In a brutal confrontation, Daredevil finally beats bulls Eye, leaving
him paralyzed. Peters sabotagees fisk surveillance network, exposing his darkest secrets,
and Fisk, however, refuses to go down, easily killing several
police officers they attempt to arrest him during the battle.
Speaker 1: What did happen to Luke Cage? So he was just overwhelmed.
Speaker 6: He was overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: Out of here, guys, Sorry next time.
Speaker 6: So yeah, killing several police officers they tend to arrest
him during the Battle of Vanessa.
Speaker 2: Vanessa is Treasury killed in.
Speaker 7: An accident falling from a high rise balcony. Have missed
the chaos, as both Wilson, Fisk, and dared To Will
witness her death. Uh a rage field breakdown, Fisk fights
Matt with a level of brutalion never seen before, leading
to their final showdown. Episode eight, The Devil's Reckoning with
Fisk and custody.
Speaker 2: Oh I guess that's it.
Speaker 1: You got arrested, showed out you've never seen before. What
was the last line that episode? Again?
Speaker 6: Again?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: Fisk fights Matt with a level of brutalion, brutality never
seen before, leading to their final showdown, just like snack.
Speaker 1: Kicking his ass anyways, and he just can't take this episode.
Speaker 2: He's in cuffs.
Speaker 1: He like cut to black. Oh I can't see that
was just like, oh, you got me man.
Speaker 6: Matt reflects on what it means to be dared devil.
Karen leaves New York unable to endure more loss. Peter,
still anonymous, thanks Matt for his help before disappearing into
the night, and a grim turned Fisk from his prison
cell orchestrates another major attack, killing several key figures in
New York's law enforcement, proving that his grip on the
city remains. That Top realizes his war is far from over.
Speaker 1: Wuck him up and fas like, I'm just gonna kill Moore.
Please let's keep doing it.
Speaker 6: Okay, so so okay, that's it. In a post credit scene,
The Devil's Bargain in a dimly lit high tech facility.
Speaker 1: A shadowed figure.
Speaker 6: Dimly lit high tech facility and.
Speaker 5: It's so fucking dim, like, I'm sure they can get
the better lady.
Speaker 1: Remember they did that with Moon. I remember Ethan Hawk
the final boss fight. They did that. He just woke
up and he was standing over Ethan Hawk and they're like, oh,
that was this third personality that did it. But yeah,
they could, that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: I did not, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 6: A shadowed figure walks past rows of he heavily armed guards,
stopping at a reinforced cell door inside a bruised and
bloodied Wilson. Fisk sits staring ahead emotionless. The door hisses open,
and the visitor steps forward, a tall, imposing man in
a long coat. As he steps into the light, his
face is revealed. Barren Zemou. You took quite the beating,
Zemo says in a cold, measured voice. But men like us,
we never truly lose. We just wait for the right time. Fisk,
without looking up, smirks slightly. And what time is that?
Zimo leans in his gloved hand, taping the table. A
time over war begins where we're going, NASA's gone, Fiscus
harasses Fisks face.
Speaker 3: Then like me and you. We got to stick together
and do something about this town whatever. That's just the
same quote from fucking morbious.
Speaker 1: Fisc has never been so hard. That's it, that's it,
perfect well Asia, and there you go.