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they or I guess a couple of days ago whenever.

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doing a special presentation for Punisher. They're bringing those back.

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We kind of thought those were dead, but they're doing that.

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It's gonna be starring John Birthall. He's also co writing it.

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of runtime. But they did say it's gonna come out

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next year. They said alongside Daredevil season two, which Daredevil

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season two is confirmed for next year. I don't know

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if that means like literally at the same time or

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like a before or after, but yeah, because we're talking

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about Daredevil, thought we bring him some news here, But yeah,

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Punisher getting a special presentation. Dylan is my former Netflix

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now obviously not a show. I think we're not gonna

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show because I think birth Ball's just like I think

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he's too busy now to do like that, you know,

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thirteen to nine episode thing. Even Daredevil, I doubt I

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think he's in there for a couple episodes. But I

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think this is just like he's in an old movie

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now and he's like doing all this suff he's in

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the account two coming up, which almost drafted. But how

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do you feel about a special presentation for the Punisher?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I really thought those were dead. I didn't think we

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were gonna get any more special presentations. And I'm trying

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to think. I guess it was was it twenty twenty

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three Christmas when we got The Guardians one? Or was

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it twenty two? Must have been twenty twenty three, right.

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Speaker 1: I think it's twenty twenty two, maybe because Guardians came

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twenty twenty two when we got that, right, that would

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make sense. You get it, You get it, Yeah, because

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time flies what you're searching at or you're looking at porn.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty twenty two, same as Worth by Night.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was October, so we got that one year

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of specials and they're like, we're done, we're not doing it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, wow, it's been a long time since we've

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got one or even heard, like we've heard a couple

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of little pieces of chatter, but like nothing really meaningful,

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nothing from like the top tier Scoopers. So this is

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Speaker 1: Oh this is from the head of Marvel TV. It's

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not Scoopers. It's like confirmed, it's like it's happening.

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Speaker 3: Very exciting. Yeah, no, that's that's that's really great. I think,

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as you mentioned, like he he's in a different spot

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in his career than he was back in those days

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when he was doing ghost recon and random stuff. Now

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this is a busy man. Okay, he just knows time

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for domes, stage time for his fifty minute or probably

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a thirty three minute long special with credits uh in there.

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really excited to see what that connection is. Hopefully he's

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in that first season at least for some juicy bits,

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so we have some stuff to break down. It's not

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that's cool, and I think maybe it shows that this

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movie or something, if they're building up to something like that,

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special presentation. I would love that. But I think the

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Speaker 1: Get John Carlo in there. You know, that'd be great.

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like he is just Frank Castle, so he's the perfect

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character to be special presentation. Plus like we're off by Night,

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it's funny because the same thing with this. Okay, there

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Speaker 1: Just give him a special at this point, my god,

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just get him. Just get him in their coach, you know, please.

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he does get the war machine suit Frank Castle and

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fuck yeah, like I would. It's got the Punisher logo

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on and everything, like I love John burthall up there

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putting on the record, I don't want that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this just comes out and it's like, oh, fuck,

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that's attached to Daredevil. Maybe I want to punch Daredevil now.

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for Daredevil season like filming, and then they got Punisher.

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it a short season? Season two? I feel like I

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remember being small because I remember Iron Fist two was shorter.

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Speaker 3: I can barely remember how to spell my own name.

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Speaker 1: How are you looking that up right now? Or is

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this back to the porn?

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Speaker 2: Back to the porn?

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Speaker 1: Okay, damn Punish.

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Speaker 3: Ser are rated.

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Speaker 1: I completely forgot it because I only thought about YouTube boys.

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a chance. I'm gonna fucking announce this right here. We're

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just gonna do a full and Punished a retro because

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war Zone, Yeah, there's Jolph, Yeah, there's Adulph Langern one

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with Thomas Jane and John Travolta, and then there's Punisher

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as well. So, yeah, Punisher Retrospective twenty twenty six logo

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for its been because there's a couple we've still have done,

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like the two thousand and three Hulk, We've still have

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done a lecture, so there's still a couple of that

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old Marvel guard we have not done.

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Speaker 6: But Uhyorfield, there's twenty six twenty six episodes thirteen and thirteen.

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Speaker 1: No, I guess I just remember being reduced but there

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you go. So but uh yeah, look.

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Speaker 1: I think that, uh that season one?

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Speaker 2: Get rid of this?

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Speaker 5: How come we in this sooner?

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Speaker 1: And my last question for you to do you agree

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with Punisher's methods, Like in the real world, would you

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Speaker 2: Would I be doing that in a war machine suit?

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Speaker 1: Would you like someone doing that?

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Speaker 2: I mean if I had the war machine suit. Sure.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was just joking. I didn't think he'd actually

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take the bait I support. He's just like really political.

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Speaker 4: Well, since you bring it up, yeah, on my mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my cousin's been on a ramp page. But let's

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start there with Daredevil predictions. What do we think they

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actually do with Punisher? How many episodes in he is

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he in? What's his arc? We see him long hair beard?

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Do we see him shaving? That's why I've shaven the

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head like that, because it's the Punisher. I fuck man

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John Birth I'll he has some curly hair that I

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can't pull off. But that's that's the look. Now. So

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what do we do with Frank Castle in this season

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of Born Again?

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Speaker 3: How many episodes again in this niner? Yeah, I'm gonna say.

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I'm gonna say three episodes, one of them being just

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like a teaser in the way that we saw like

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Speaker 3: But two episodes where there's there's some meat on the bone.

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Speaker 1: I think you're perfectly in the ballpark. I might say

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three in an end credit, because now with this special presentation,

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maybe they do something.

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Speaker 3: To set end credit. Yeah, good call, I think that.

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Speaker 1: Might be something. Did anyone have to look if anyone

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draft him? I can't remember if anyone did. I'll take

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a look when someone's talking. The only thing I don't

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know what the whole storyline is, right, because Fisk's running

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for mayor, and it seems like maybe him and Matt

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start working together, and they of course divert divert, and

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Fist goes off the deep end, and you know, something

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happens with Vanessa. Imagine if Frank kills Vanessa, fuck man,

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that would be that's a special as fists, imagine a fist.

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But what I do want is because I said this

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is so I apologize to Dylan and you let listen

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to those reviews. I pitched this all the time. In

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season two, they set up Fisk versus Punisher, and we've

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never cycled back to, like Punisher said, like, when you

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get out of here, I'm gonna find you, know, man,

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a fucking kill you like because it's such a great

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story of Fisk lets the Punisher out just to go

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kill other crime people and then so when he can

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get out, he can be the top dog. But then

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Punisher is waiting for him. Of course I'm Punisher. A

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bunch of family drama happens, best friend's bad, all this stuff, right,

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all this, all these little twizz and twines. My hope

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is that we get back to because that scene and

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now that these two the scene it the scene of

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them in the prison together, that's a top tier Daredevil

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episode of Punisher versus Fisk. So I that's the only

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thing I'm hoping. I don't think it's gonna happen in

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the season, but that's what I want, as I want

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a berth All uh Dinofrio scene and a content there

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I really love, and that plays big in the Spider

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Man and Maids series, Like I want Punisher versus Fisk

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if you tell me too, if that's a special fuck, yeah,

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Like I'm there, Like, give us that rematch of them

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fighting in the jail, so this time Frank doesn't have

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the cuffs. Let's go. I'm excited. But what he does?

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I think what Dyan said, he you tease him, you

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meet him, he gets in there, and then he's maybe

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they set up somebody's back and he's gonna kill him.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully it's not, but yeah, I know, I think you

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guys are pretty much there with where I would be

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thinking he would be maybe reduced it by an episode

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I feel like, definitely set up for a potential end

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credit leading into something, but I feel like it would

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be kind of just him helping out a situation more

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so than like being a big part of the show,

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just because we had that in season two already of Daredevil.

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I think he like season two might be my favorite

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out of the Daredevil three. I really really love the

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inclusion of that character and just the storyline around him.

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But I'm ready to be born again and you know,

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travel into a different realm and not just rehash the

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same story that we had with Frank Cassel.

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Speaker 5: Not meant like, but I do want him to appear.

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Speaker 4: Obviously he's gonna appear, so that's great, but I want

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it to be just a more supplementary role and then

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have him on his because it just seemed like at

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the end of season two of Daredevil as well, it's like, Okay,

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he's he's gonna go get the war machine suit and

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fuck up some guy. Now I'm kidding, but like like

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he like he's ready to go undo something. So here

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I want to kind of see quickly what he's been

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doing and then how he's able to help out Comrade. Uh,

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what's his name, Matt, I said Charlie I.

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Speaker 1: Will I will say, so we don't have a Defender's

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Daredevil's season three when you're saying you want to know

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what he's been up to, they do answer that and

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punish her season one and two. So I don't think

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they're gonna directly go yeah, yeah, I don't think they're

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gonna directly recap the entire show. But I am wondering,

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like in that show Daredevil wants Frank to be in prison.

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He thinks he should be in prison. So I'm really

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wondering what the dynamic this go around is. It's like,

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is that still not a thing? Has he just been like, yeah, whatever,

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I just accept Frank's a killer now, But it feels

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like he's always very like, no, we need like you're

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sick and you should be locked up. So but they

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look like they're working together, So I'm very curious how

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that goes or if it's like a oh, after this,

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I'm gonna lock you up and Frank gets out of

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there as always. I'm curious what the dynamic is for

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Mad and how how deep he is into the.

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Speaker 5: It's like a catwoman Batman situation.

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Speaker 1: Those two, there are a couple now that'd be great.

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Taylor Honey Punisher.

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Speaker 6: Predictions, Oh my goodness. I mean you highlighted some really

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really good ones with the season two of Daredevil, because yeah,

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there's a lot going on that they don't kind of

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follow through, and I just kind of figured, well, maybe

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Fisk pops up and punish her.

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Speaker 2: Season one and two.

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Speaker 6: I was pissed the whole time because he really just

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lays a down heart on him like I'm gonna come

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and like fucking find you, and like he's pissed off

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he was set up by my Fisk, So that's a

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shame that they don't kind of touch upon that again.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I don't know what.

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Speaker 6: My predictions would be, and that's just because I feel

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like there's still a lot I don't know about the character.

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I really don't know where he was really just running

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off to at the end of the Daredevil show, and

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what he's trying to do now, what his motivations and

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his goals are now that he kind of found the

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truth about his family.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what to predict really.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he just finds another city with criminals and

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just starts killing them.

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Speaker 1: I guess, well, at least because you guys watched the

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Punisher show sets up that there's more people to the

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family situation, so they didn't they didn't close that off.

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There's certain people that yes, that's what that's about. Here,

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here's a phone one. I want to ask everybody, what's

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the Punisher's kill count in this show? Ooh, my lives?

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Does he take? I'm gonna say I'm gonna say six.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to six double digits for sure.

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Speaker 1: Double digits, Oh my god, fifteen if he's only in

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a couple episodes, he's a busy boy. Okay, here's double

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digits fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I'll go look at number three.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I was gonna go low to.

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Speaker 2: I'll do.

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Speaker 5: Lucky number seven.

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Speaker 1: Lucky number seven, okay.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Super Mike asked, do you think we'll finally get some

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concrete answers on how can Pik go out of the

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deal he made with Daredevil at the end of season three?

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That dangling thread still bugs me absolutely. I think so

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because the idea was, like Matt had this stuff on him,

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and if Kingpin go out of prison, he would send

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Vanessa to prison, right, and Vanessa a big character for

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a right Kirkland Taylor. I think they will also. I

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also think people don't. I know, it's kind of lame

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as a crutch, but like the blip did happen, and

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I feel like a lot of ship that they can

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just go like, well, this this and this happened in

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the blip and we had to do this, and oh

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my god, Vanessa, oh boy, I'll kill you that he

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would take down that. Imagine that and the poorls just

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like you took everything from me and I don't even

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know where you are. So I think they will answer

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that somehow loopoi. I think they. I think they kind

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of have to if they just go like, well, yeah,

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I figured out how Vanessa won't go to prison. They

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don't tell us. That'd be kind of lame, but I

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think they will.

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Speaker 5: I think so too, or just Vanessa died between shows,

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we just never see.

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Speaker 1: That she's there, but they because originally they they recast her,

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and then when they did that whole shooting the show over,

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they brought the original actress back.

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Speaker 5: Then since like you recasted.

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Speaker 1: Because he is in the channel famous questions, Dultina is too.

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He asked, Uh, do we think there's gonna be any

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MCU cameos in this show?

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Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I would like, like who likely characters would be?

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Speaker 4: Someone that's already interacted with Matt in the past, So

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of course we got she Hulk comes to mind her.

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Speaker 5: Okay, won't be her?

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Speaker 1: There, goes answered echo, Yeah, I comedic for what they're

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gonna go for here. And I feel like, because some

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people are like fuck the show, I don't think they're

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gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: I'll go with uh, happy Hogan.

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Speaker 1: That's a good get. And that's like a full circle.

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Speaker 3: Why is it a full circle Spider Man circle back?

471
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,799
Speaker 6: Yes, I would say Spider Man Peter Parker too.

472
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: No, that's why it's a full circle because he played

473
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,680
That's where I was going. He played Foggy Nelson in

474
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,920
the Daredevil movie. Remember I don't know Ben Affleck. Yeah, yeah,

475
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,000
he's his Foggy.

476
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:29,759
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

477
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,079
Speaker 1: So that's why that that'd be a very fun full circle. Yeah,

478
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:39,160
Foggy would be great or sorry would be great. I

479
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,160
would love it. This would be the most hype one

480
00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:45,839
never gonna happen if the season ends, because fucking you know,

481
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,079
Brave New World gives nothing. But imagine those wings collapse

482
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,960
and someone lands and health kitchen and its fucking Falcon

483
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,079
and he's asking them about to be doing the Avengers.

484
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,240
I don't think they're gonna draft daredebl Avengers, but man Falcons,

485
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,400
I feel like, no, I guess Captain America.

486
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: That's why I feel like that would be happiest job

487
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,000
based on what happened in Deadpool.

488
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: That was before the blip though, so that's why it's

489
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:11,319
probably changed now. That scene yeah, yeah, that scene happened. Yeah,

490
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,359
I don't know, it's not gonna be Spider Man. I

491
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,839
know people want that that's not happening. I would love it.

492
00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:20,440
I think we've probably yes, Scrody, I would love it

493
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,079
if it was like a Kate Bishop. They call him

494
00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:29,839
a Marvel alliance Scroti Chris. I would love Kate Bishop

495
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,480
her to be fighting crime in New York and then

496
00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:35,240
to bump into each other. But like, honestly, like if

497
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,119
we don't get anybody else, I'm kind of fine because

498
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,279
we got punished her. I know it's not MCO camera,

499
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,359
but that's all I really need. But I don't know,

500
00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:44,119
I guess, and like if it's Marvel, we're all. The

501
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,000
other one I'm hoping for is Jessica Jones. I would

502
00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:47,519
love to see Christian Ritter back.

503
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,319
Speaker 3: You know, that's it sounds big. One the rumors that

504
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,440
was that it's gonna happen and then it like didn't happen, right,

505
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,440
but because.

506
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: Show that got canceled, so you know, pick the wrong

507
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,680
horse there.

508
00:22:56,599 --> 00:22:58,519
Speaker 3: Pick the wrong horse. I mean I feel like that.

509
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,759
I think they'll do like, yeah, we'll have some of

510
00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:05,000
those ones from the Marvel Netflix bringing those characters back

511
00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:06,880
for sure, but I feel like they gotta have some

512
00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:09,920
MU stuff just to really solidify to people and prove like, hey,

513
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,640
this is this is the m C now. I mean,

514
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,160
I guess he's alread appeared in a couple of things,

515
00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:15,640
but just to make it clear, I feel like they

516
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,519
want to do a little bit of that be the

517
00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:19,480
talk of the town. And so I think you have

518
00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:21,960
one or two small ones in there, but nothing to media.

519
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,599
I don't think.

520
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: This is why I hate that Moonnight. Like went to

521
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,720
Egypt and there's a fighting alligator yea, Like if they.

522
00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 3: Went with the Moon Night.

523
00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, where if they were in The Moon Night where

524
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,240
he was a New York crime fighter, that would have

525
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,079
been so cool to have, like practical suit.

526
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 3: It's still possible.

527
00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still it's still it's still there.

528
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: Doing these days. Name one movie he's been in the

529
00:23:44,039 --> 00:23:50,319
last three years, Tune it was like five years ago.

530
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: He's for He's in a garamud Del Tour movie coming

531
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,400
up next. He's in a Frankenstein movie. He plays Frankenstein

532
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,640
and Jacob Lordi's the monster.

533
00:23:56,839 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: So okay, he's worri It's gonna be good.

534
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: I can't remember who the bride Oh the brides me

535
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,319
a golf So fuck that's gonna be That's gonna be good, Taylor.

536
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,200
Any MCU people, and we get your precious iron fist here.

537
00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 6: I would hope we get the legendary Danny.

538
00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:17,279
Speaker 1: N get.

539
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 6: I was a Colleen Colleen Wing Colleen get her in

540
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:23,160
there too.

541
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

542
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 6: I'm super down to have some of those those recurring

543
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,920
characters pop back in. But I would love to have

544
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,119
some some larger than life mc you familiar faces pop in.

545
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: Who's your pick them?

546
00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 6: I mean I would love to see I would love

547
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,839
to see Spider Man, but you said that's not gonna happen.

548
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: No Sony will of that happen.

549
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 6: Uh. Aside from that, would also be pretty cool to see.

550
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:49,799
Speaker 2: Uh the Scars and New.

551
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 6: York Norman Osborne throw a Norman Osborne Oscorp Tower in there,

552
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,279
that would be pretty hype.

553
00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:58,319
Speaker 1: Scar might be in New York. I don't actually know.

554
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,480
I guess she was in New York.

555
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 5: She was somewhere the grave in New York.

556
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: Punisher killed him.

557
00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:12,079
Speaker 3: Or King King kills him? Is that?

558
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:18,599
Speaker 1: Where's Vanessa's still not back? She's like that Martin Star

559
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,640
character where she pretended she was dead, like after the blip,

560
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,119
but she didn't actually from Yeah, that's what she's like. Yeah,

561
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,480
anybody you said someone big, but you inspire you larger

562
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,079
than life, larger than life.

563
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: In life, someone is super super big.

564
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 6: Ben Uh, I would probably want to see. Yeah, Thor

565
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,720
is not going to pop in there. And I can't

566
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,759
see a hawk popping in there. Take a doctor Strange

567
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,720
popping in They're in New.

568
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: York, you know. Oh yeah, I want Charlie to get

569
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,839
in there. I know they're happy that he's in the

570
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:54,680
TV world, but just now I'm back to where we

571
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,319
were in Netflix from like, I just want to be

572
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,400
back in the movies too.

573
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: But he did make He wasn't a movie I.

574
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: Know, but like one seeing like again, and now it

575
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,319
sounds like we're not doing the team. If we're Inspirement

576
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,799
and Daredevil in four, then I'd be happy. But Tom

577
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,079
also asked what is something you hope is improved upon

578
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:14,759
for the new Deptflix Daredevil show that was opposed to

579
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,079
that show a post to the Netflix show Sorry side,

580
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,119
I've heard there's some maybe wonky CGI and the show

581
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,880
is a little disappointing, But what I would want and

582
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,160
I bet this is where it is I want Matt

583
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,559
and Daredevil to be more of a gymnast. That's what

584
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:31,640
I loved about the way he moved in Silk, that

585
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,640
moment where she like looks off the building and he's

586
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,799
like flipping around everything. Like in the comics. There's so

587
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:38,519
many panels of him jumping and doing crazy flips, and

588
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:40,720
he has his batons that have like the hooks and everything,

589
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,880
like I want them to the Netflix shows. I appreciate

590
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,240
that they went very grounded, but they also didn't have

591
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,200
the budget for that. If this is given them a

592
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,440
little bit more budget, I do want I don't want

593
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,119
to go crazy, but I would just love to see

594
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,960
Matt flipping around a lot because it's you know, it's

595
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,960
like a Batman thing where there are aerial fighters as

596
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,359
well too, so and give him the double ds as well.

597
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,480
They haven't given them double d's. I think this is

598
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,640
the best version of suit, But why is there still

599
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,759
no d's on there? So don't worry Delton. You worded

600
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:09,359
it bad and I read it bad. So we're a

601
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,319
winning combo here, don't worry. So but we know what

602
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,359
she meant. But yeah, and I guess I'll say this

603
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,559
for the desk but like less of storylines I don't

604
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:23,720
care about AKA, like I'm not sad if we lose Foggy.

605
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:25,519
And there's lots of times where I just felt like Netflix,

606
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:27,440
like we need something for Foggy to do. Let's send

607
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,440
them to the biker club. It's like I don't need that.

608
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,079
The same way of like I don't like that Matt

609
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,720
has a new girlfriend and I'm so worried. It's like, oh,

610
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:36,759
she's a tough cop on the side and here's her,

611
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,359
just like I don't I really don't want that. I'm

612
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,400
fine with and I like care more than Foggy, but

613
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:44,240
I'm literally just fun with just madd and Kingpin and

614
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,240
go from there and have people come in. But it's

615
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:49,279
just like I hate when this is nine episodes, so

616
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,200
maybe not so I would like that where I don't

617
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,759
need Foggy and what's his girlfriend's name? I can't remember

618
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,240
what was? Yeah, Marcie, Yeah, she's like call it like

619
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,039
not that she was a bunch by just being like

620
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,400
sometimes feel like those characters were just needed something to do.

621
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,200
It's like, just give Charlie Cox more time. All with

622
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:09,000
pay Moore, Well, doesn't fucking Pam. He's great, so that's

623
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:11,960
my thing is Darede will be more gymnasts and less

624
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,559
side plots that are just gonna fhiil like filler.

625
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's because that's been a long time since

626
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:19,599
I've watched the show. It's hard for me to really

627
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,000
remember anything I don't like, which is a good sign,

628
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:23,839
of course, but I think it would be that for

629
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,480
me is like those shows always had some what felt

630
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:29,960
like filler storylines in the side, and I kind of

631
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,079
feel like that's not really an MCU thing. If we

632
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,480
look at like the Disney Plus shows, I mean, they're

633
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:36,759
not very long generally speaking, and I feel like they

634
00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:38,559
are pretty to the point there isn't a ton of

635
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,799
weird stuff happening on the side. There's a little bit

636
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:42,799
of it, So I guess that would be mine too,

637
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,160
just like just focus, zoom in focus, have a good time.

638
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: The tough thing though, is if in Netflix they focus,

639
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:51,039
I don't think you and me Dylan would have got

640
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,200
meach and Ward because that's one of those stories that

641
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,079
complete side character doing random stuff. That.

642
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's different when like the main guy why

643
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:02,119
you're the show's selling point is weak and you need

644
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:04,759
something like that to fill it in with Daredevil, he's great.

645
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:06,440
We don't need stuff on the side to fill in

646
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:06,960
the blanks.

647
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,039
Speaker 1: I love you just watched all Daredevil. Any anything you

648
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:12,000
want to prove upon.

649
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:17,119
Speaker 6: I would I appreciate not having like four or five

650
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,279
episodes of just sulking Matt Murdoch.

651
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,839
Speaker 1: Well, then you're in the wrong place because this that's

652
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,720
what Daredebel does.

653
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:28,079
Speaker 6: Like if I watched, then it would have made sense, right,

654
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,440
I would have understood, like why he's so down the dump.

655
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,519
Speaker 1: But okay, first of all, you don't think in season

656
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:34,920
one and two, Matt it's like a depressed character at times.

657
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480
He's always he's at the building.

658
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: This guy's apartment. It's we get the reasoning and.

659
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 6: The build up towards it when certain things happen, and

660
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,960
some backstory. But this it was just like, you know,

661
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:47,079
he wakes up in the rubble and then he's just looking.

662
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: He didn't watch Defenders. I did before people listen to review.

663
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,279
I did tell these guys to at least watch a

664
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:54,519
YouTube video about Defenders, and they did not. When you

665
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:57,000
get finance interview, they're like, maybe this HA made this happened,

666
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:57,880
Like they're.

667
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: Like, they could have just watched me and Travis's review.

668
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: You, yeah, there is Keith.

669
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 4: You know it took so long.

670
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: Daredel is often depressed. I thought you were gonna just

671
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,200
say lest Kingpin or something, because you guys are just

672
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,200
haters over here.

673
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:14,759
Speaker 5: So less Sulky and Kingpin as well, just to adn't

674
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:15,559
on to what Taylor said.

675
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:17,319
Speaker 4: No, I it's funny. I agree with everything that you

676
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:20,160
guys said for like just what I would change, So

677
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:26,839
definitely I'll agree there. I probably more aligned with Taylor

678
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,839
on the fact of not just because Matt is so

679
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:36,319
in between the dourness and just fighting like his internal

680
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:38,880
faith and stuff like that, and like, if that's that,

681
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,839
that's who the character is, that's who the character is.

682
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,039
I just want to feel like I'm grow, like he's

683
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,319
evolved and he's growing, because we did three seasons of

684
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,000
Daredevil of him doing that, and if this is just

685
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:52,480
back to square one where he's just going over the

686
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:54,680
same types of emotions of like, is what.

687
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing right?

688
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,359
Speaker 2: Should I go further?

689
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,519
Speaker 5: Should I go to the level of killing someone like

690
00:30:58,519 --> 00:30:58,880
I should?

691
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: Like I I feel like we've already gone down that road,

692
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,759
So I I just wanted to feel like an evolved

693
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:08,839
Matt Murdock here and not just well, it's a new

694
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,519
MCU Daredevil here, so it's gonna we're gonna have to

695
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:14,640
maybe cover stuff that we already did because not everyone

696
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,799
watched Daredevil Netflix.

697
00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:17,039
Speaker 5: So I don't know.

698
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, based on that critique, gonna be happy

699
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:22,079
with this season. I feel like probably.

700
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,039
Speaker 4: I mean, I think my thoughts on on those retros,

701
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:27,839
but I I feel like I found out a lot

702
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:29,920
about Daredevil and it's like, man, this character is actually

703
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,720
maybe not as aligned with what I like about characters.

704
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,599
Like I thought you would be great, look great fight scenes.

705
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,519
I do want more comic bookie type fight scenes, like

706
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,480
acrobatics like what you said, Travis, we got that in

707
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:43,039
Spider Man.

708
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 5: That was really cool, did we?

709
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, what kind of no at home did I miss?

710
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: Like you popped off.

711
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: He's on the Statue of Liberty with the three sermen.

712
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: Hey guys, when they throw the barrick, he actually jumped

713
00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:59,480
out the window, grabbed the barrick, threw it back at

714
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,160
the event.

715
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: The shit Defender and locked into prison. Yeah.

716
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 6: Uh, the super micas what does he mean? The short

717
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,400
er agrees like the show agrees with it. Matt and

718
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,200
Burnock being too negative.

719
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,279
Speaker 1: There was a quote I think you must not be

720
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:18,759
in the discord where he said he didn't want I

721
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,039
can't remember the wording, but I'm pretty much paraphrasing where

722
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:22,839
they didn't want the show to be a bunch of

723
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,039
the heroes sitting around talking about what does it mean

724
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:28,119
to be a hero and sulking all that they didn't

725
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,319
say sulking. For me, that's not a good sign because

726
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,759
like the best moment of the show is Punisher and

727
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,000
Daredevil on the rooftop talking about what does mean to

728
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,720
be a hero and Punisher being like, well, you're not

729
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,200
actually a hero because you put them down, they get up.

730
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,920
I put them down, they stay down, you know. Like

731
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,960
I think my worry is they keep the two things

732
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,039
everyone keeps saying in these interviews is like it's really

733
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:52,000
mature and it's just like Netflix. But I feel like

734
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,680
they don't talk about the actual show. And I think

735
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,880
there is a reason why the critics have only seen

736
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,599
two episodes. I'm not saying I want to be negative,

737
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,599
but it is Disney Plus and we've been there. But

738
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,799
we've been there before when Secret Invasions started good right,

739
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,079
and there's a decline so I think, like as much

740
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:09,920
as you guys bring it up, like I think that

741
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,440
might be a thing that that's just that's always Daredevil.

742
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:16,440
He's always like dealing with who is he and what

743
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,000
does he mean for the city. So that's just Dare

744
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,960
double like all the time. So I think you do

745
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:23,559
lose some of the core stuff there. And yeah, I

746
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:26,319
am I have not liked many of the showrunners comments.

747
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,240
I can't remember some other stuff he said, but there's

748
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:30,200
other And even when you just start me like, oh

749
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,319
we did something even more gnarlier than Netflix, it is

750
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:35,839
just like all right, Like again, like the show. I

751
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:37,880
didn't watch the show for it to be mature. I

752
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,440
didn't watch it because I won the action scenes that's great,

753
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,960
But I watched it for the character stuff. But we'll see.

754
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,359
Maybe he's just a bad interviewer, you know, so possible. Yeah,

755
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:50,880
any major deaths, you know, a Dulton assa, but we

756
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,880
always talk about deaths. I fog he's a goner, he's

757
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,839
a dead man. Why do you say that he's just done.

758
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,759
Speaker 2: I just think it's the comics.

759
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: Everybody dies in the comics. Matt's he's dying in the comics,

760
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,319
and Electra took over, so I don't think that's happening.

761
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:08,599
I just think Foggy is a dead man with certain

762
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,559
things they've talked about. Instead of just like, oh, we're

763
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,079
some big stuff's gonna happen. We want to make big

764
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:17,320
moves and and just I think Foggy is he's uh,

765
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,280
he's no more. And I'm I'm okay with that because

766
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,840
I never loved the Foggy Nelson Netflix character. I like

767
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,639
the combic version a bit more so. And I don't

768
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,119
think so I better not be Kingpin. Kingpin better stay

769
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,320
alive and he better not end up in prison again.

770
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:33,079
Like I don't need to go back to prison. There

771
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:36,800
there's where he gets away with it, and that has

772
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,519
to struggle with that because they're if they're doing a

773
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:40,719
season two or like I guess it's born against season two.

774
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:44,760
I think it's yeah, like maybe Kingpin loses, but not

775
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,639
back to prison, because season one he went to prison,

776
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,559
Season two it was about him being in prison. Then

777
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:51,039
season three he went back to prison. So have him

778
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,960
or have him win, have him beat their devil this season,

779
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,599
have the good guy lose and like that's another thing.

780
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: War moment leading in the second season. Maybe maybe yeah,

781
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,840
or and.

782
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I don't think it's at their own possibility

783
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,440
that Vanessa dies either, and that was gonna pick that

784
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,159
could be something that could be that because imagine Darede

785
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,559
or Kingpin going next season like we mean about it,

786
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:15,440
but imagine literally someone or imagine Matt Murray accidentally killing

787
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,039
me and as something like Kingpin is gonna lose it.

788
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:21,559
So I I would kind of like them to kill

789
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,239
the Nessa, even though I really like that actress.

790
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: So two, I mean that would be Goodrick, those are

791
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,760
good ones. I don't know if I what about Karen.

792
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,079
You think she's she's good, she's chilling, I.

793
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:35,039
Speaker 1: Think so, yeah, And I hope I hope they get

794
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,800
her in that Punisher special or whatever, because that's my

795
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,159
ship right there they have. Yeah, yeah, so I would

796
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,559
I hope. I like Karen. So she killed one guy, Okay,

797
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,000
just takes one Wesley, that was self defense, he was

798
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,599
gonna kill her. That doesn't count as I kill like come.

799
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 5: On, but counts it's ask Kingpin and accounts.

800
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I agree with the Foggy thing, not

801
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,360
as I think Vanessa could be the second next season potentially,

802
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,039
but yeah, I think Foggy's had his time in the sun.

803
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I really like Foggy, so I don't want

804
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,920
him to die. I really like his character a lot,

805
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,719
so innocent and justice.

806
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: He is a good guy.

807
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 6: He's what was justice?

808
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:27,559
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a proud word right there. That's not a

809
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:32,760
real words. All worlds are made up. What about Benjamin

810
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,320
point Dexter Bullseye? Is he gonna make it out because

811
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,360
he's in the season. So is he is in the season? Yeah?

812
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,320
Is he gonna make it out?

813
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,159
Speaker 6: He's got the suit now too, doesn't he?

814
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: I think he does. Yeah, he's gonna be.

815
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,559
Speaker 5: The one that kills Vanessa.

816
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: He should f fist does everything. But no, I think

817
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:53,000
they'll I think they'll keep them. I think I hope

818
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:54,960
so too. I want them to keep Bull's Eye around.

819
00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's alive. Yeah, who else is there?

820
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,199
That's kind of everyone?

821
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,159
Speaker 4: Uh.

822
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: They're introducing White Tiger, so he could always die. He's

823
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,119
another street fighter fight character, but like his daughter's the

824
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:14,280
more popular one. At one point, there's a big rumor

825
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,239
that Jen Artago is playing his daughter, But that's not

826
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:16,800
a true at all.

827
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,159
Speaker 2: That's just his name is White Tiger? Is what you said?

828
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 6: Uh?

829
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? White Tiger.

830
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,679
Speaker 6: What's the daughter's superhero name, White Tiger.

831
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,639
Speaker 1: She takes some mantles.

832
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:26,199
Speaker 5: Oh okay, good snap card.

833
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah he dies and she's White Tiger. So I think

834
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,360
he'll die. And I'm not saying because the actors unfortunate

835
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,519
passway since they filmed. I just think that they're going

836
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:37,639
to set up the daughter taking the mantle.

837
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I think we'll get new

838
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,480
people who die potentially. But yes, I think especially with

839
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,960
the season, with the season kind of being split into two,

840
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,280
like you don't want to overload this first half with

841
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,199
just yeah bodies, you know you got to save.

842
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 5: Some of Ugo who will die.

843
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,079
Speaker 1: I'm sure we mass new girlfriend. I don't know her name,

844
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:58,360
but she's a girl. I don't know what she does

845
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,800
if not looked into. But he does have a new girlfriend,

846
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,480
Like does she die? Does she know he's Daredel does

847
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,239
she not? Like there's another storyline where I don't also

848
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,960
need where it's like I love that we have Foggy

849
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,599
in Karen. They know he's Daredevil. That's not that's checked off.

850
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,920
If we just get to like, oh, he's got another

851
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,960
girl and she doesn't know. I don't need that. I

852
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,599
also don't need that in the show for me.

853
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: Good point. I think he la. I think they break

854
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,079
up early on because he's too busy being Daredevil.

855
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think she dies. I think I can see

856
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,880
fist killing her.

857
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 5: Jesus a Vanessa for Vanessa.

858
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I took your Vanessa. Her name is Sharon. Any

859
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:44,079
other other than I know to something cooking over there,

860
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:48,239
but anything else prediction wise, we've not covered post credits.

861
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960
I just feel like, yeah, Punisher Sai, they have Daredel's

862
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,679
season two probably like those two things. Yes Jones? Is

863
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:58,519
that where you could see Jones? Like if you were

864
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:01,920
to do something maybe Davy Jones, wouldn't that be massive?

865
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:07,880
It's just like Harrison Ford, Hey, Red like Time Traveler

866
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,000
now Red Hule.

867
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:12,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I season two is it? Is it coming next year?

868
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:12,800
For sure?

869
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: At this That's what they said this week.

870
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: So I just I just like there's not a lot

871
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,400
of There isn't really room to do some big setting

872
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,599
them up for Avengers kind of thing right just because

873
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,199
of that, so I think it will just be boring,

874
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:26,400
Like how how how long ago do you guy think

875
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,239
they knew they were gonna do this Punisher thing? Because

876
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,800
that's news now but like, has that been in the

877
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,840
works or is that a pretty knee jerk reaction to

878
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,360
recent developments and other cancelations.

879
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough because they canceled those three shows and

880
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,679
there's other things. I would say in Q four they

881
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,760
probably sat across it.

882
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm gonna say that, maybe that's not what

883
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,719
we're gonna get here. Then as a post credit, maybe

884
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,280
that's just too reactive. It wasn't enough in development, you know,

885
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,559
even know they can quickly film one scene and throw

886
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:53,960
it in there.

887
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was gonna say. I guess they did

888
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,400
say that punishing things come out next year, though, So

889
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,519
I feel like they're confident enough to be far along

890
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,679
be like, yeah, it's coming out next year afestly the

891
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,519
light It's gonna always happen, right, But yeah, I don't know.

892
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all.

893
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Right, Taylor, let's end this episode laying honest, Well, we'll

894
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,760
take another ad break and then lay it on. We'll

895
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,800
be right back. All right, We're back, just kids. Sorry.

896
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,079
Speaker 3: One other thing, do you guys think this show is

897
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:18,800
gonna do well? Numbers wise? Is it gonna is it

898
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,840
gonna break some records? Is it gonna be a part

899
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,599
for the cooruse, middle of the pack, bottom tier Disney

900
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:24,920
plus where's this one going?

901
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: I hope we get the numbers. I'm gonna say, like

902
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:34,079
I was just gonna say bottom of the top tier,

903
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:35,639
but I'm just I just don't know what the hype

904
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,159
for Daredevil is like in a good way. I could

905
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:39,320
see it being bigger because I think bottom of the

906
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,239
top tiers like moon Night, because I think it's like

907
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,360
like low key Wanda Vision Falcon, Hawkeye and Moon. I

908
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,320
think actually Moon Night is like tied with hawk Ar something,

909
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,400
So I feel like it's gonna be like in the

910
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,800
ball like the Hawkeye Moonnight. Realm, That's what I'm thinking.

911
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say upper echelon of those tiers,

912
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,159
but like what you said, Travis, like the bottom of

913
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:00,760
the upper.

914
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: Being low key, you know, or Wanda like not being

915
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:04,559
those too.

916
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:08,079
Speaker 3: So I'll go I'll go number three. It becomes the third.

917
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Your velan Winter Soldier.

918
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: I could see that, sure, why not? I could see

919
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,679
three or four? I'm with you, Dylan Nice, all.

920
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: Right, Hey, what was the prompt you uh put in

921
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:22,280
the chatpt to get did you ask for a season?

922
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:22,559
Speaker 7: Four?

923
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: Did you ask for a season to show television would

924
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,519
you ask it for?

925
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 4: Uh?

926
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 6: So, first I said, uh, do you know the Disney

927
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,360
Plus series Hawkeye and Echoes? Like yes, since that I

928
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,079
wanted to make sure it knew its history just to

929
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:34,519
pull from.

930
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:35,679
Speaker 2: And then I said, okay, perfect.

931
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 6: Are you also familiar with the Netflix show Daredevil and

932
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,800
the other characters affiliated with that for Dared Devil's three seasons?

933
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but I haven't seen Defenders? Is that what?

934
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

935
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: Knows a Defenders? No, never heard of it.

936
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:53,599
Speaker 6: So I wrote, okay, perfect, So between that Netflix series

937
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and the two Disney Plus series and other appearances with

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Dared Devil, can you write me a one season story

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for the.

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Speaker 3: New fucking bought over here?

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Speaker 6: So that's why that's why I basically dropped it. I

942
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also mentioned too, like make sure you know that this

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is connecting into the larger overall Marvel Somatic universe. But

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that's that's it, So goddamn it starts. It starts off.

945
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,719
It's the main show. The name of this show is

946
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called Daredevil Shadow War instead of Born Again.

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Speaker 1: And because like, I hate that they're calling it born Again.

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That was season three they adapted to the storyline.

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Speaker 6: But here we are, so uh, so episode one, The

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Devil's Return, Matt Murdoch, now a low profile defense attorney

951
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after the events of She Hulk, is reluctantly pulled back

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into action when Karen Page and Foggy Nelson.

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Speaker 1: I gotta stop your wady, they say he's a low

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profile defense attorney. That, yeah, would make no sense. It's

955
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like the last timing saw of his case with Spider Man,

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which would be one of the biggest cases in the world.

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You're you're now defending the guy that they revealed a

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Spider Man Avenger.

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Speaker 6: There's no one remembers Spider Man. No one remembers that

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Peter Parker Spider Man, so it's not.

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Speaker 1: There's record anymore. But that doesn't make sense. So we're

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not gonna get into that.

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Speaker 6: Could be record because it would have been wiped Doctor

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Strange magic.

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Speaker 1: So what about like all all the records in the

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court would be wiped, so all footage of Peter Parker

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would be wiped too. Doesn't know that's what happened. It

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said that people forgot about Peter Parker, not that he

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00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,280
didn't exist, So.

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Speaker 6: Then the case would be forgotten about.

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Speaker 1: But there's still a video footage of Peter Parker. No

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one's gonna and there's still a thing of like Spider

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00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:32,239
Man was defended people. People know of Spider Man, they

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know who Spider Man is. Yeah, but but Matt Murdoch

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00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:43,159
defended Spider Man, defended Peter for being Spider Man.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't think it's gonna work out in court.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone knowing after all? Okay, low profile.

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Speaker 6: Sure, So Karen Page and Foggy Nelson on cover evidence

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00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,719
that Fisk is rigging the upcoming mayor mayoral election. At

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the same time, Peter Parker Spider Man investigates a series

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of brutal gang killings that seemed connected.

982
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Speaker 1: Brutal gang gang killings. Oh geez, sure, bloody.

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Speaker 6: Brutal gangkillings that seemed connected to someone he thought had disappeared,

984
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:17,800
Frank Castle.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Daredevil suits up again, only to find Fisk's reaches deeper

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than ever.

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Speaker 2: In a shocking moment, Foggy is murdered.

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Speaker 3: By Wait is this episode one?

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Speaker 2: Still?

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Speaker 6: It is episode one?

992
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Foggy's gone.

993
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Speaker 6: Sending Matt into a spiral of guilt and rage. Meanwhile,

994
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Vanesca Vanessa Fisk is seen pulling political strings behind the scenes.

995
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Speaker 1: Lost Vanessa in the Bli Vanesca.

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Speaker 3: This episode is six hours long.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, on here, So she's pulling political strings

998
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,400
behind the scenes and showing her husband's rise to power.

999
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,599
Episode two, The King City, Fisk wins the election, making

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it nearly impossible to touch him legally. His first order

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a new anti vichel Anti task force led by a

1002
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dangerous figure Benjamin Point Dexter Bullseye, freshly released from a

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hidden government government facility and under Fisk's control. Uh Matt,

1004
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:14,920
grieving Foggy's death, struggles with his morality, while Karen spirals

1005
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,880
into reckless investigative journalism.

1006
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 2: Jaredevil Spider Man.

1007
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 3: Crossed Pass spirals into reckless journalism.

1008
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:26,199
Speaker 2: Reckless investigative journalism.

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00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: Spirals into something else because she's like a drug. Add

1010
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,639
I thought that too, so I thought that's where we're going.

1011
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: But reckless journalism is like an oxy moral that is crazy.

1012
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 6: Just Frank Castle, the Daredevil and Spider Man cross Pass

1013
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,320
investigating the escalating crime wave. Meanwhile, Castle hunts down Fisks lieutenants,

1014
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,960
brutally executing them one by one, leaving the city in terror. Vanessa, meanwhile,

1015
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,519
begins to question the extent of her husband's brutality creating

1016
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:49,800
a subtle tension between them.

1017
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: Okay, come on season four and you're like, maybe he's

1018
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,920
a bad guy.

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00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 6: Episode three, Shadows and City, Jared, Devil and Spider Man

1020
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,760
investigate a secret arms deal between Fisks people and Rogue

1021
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,719
remnants of the Hand. Peter, still adjusting to being completely

1022
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:15,559
forgotten by the world, confides in Mad about his struggles. Meanwhile, Frank, Meanwhile,

1023
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,760
Uh Frank captures and tortures a high ranking crime boss,

1024
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uncovering evidence that Fisk has a hidden agenda beyond mere

1025
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,119
political power Pointdexter begins his relentless hunt for Daredevil, leading

1026
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:33,119
to a brutal rooftop battle that ends with Matt barely escaping.

1027
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:37,719
Vanessa plays a quiet of pivotal role, organizing alliances between

1028
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,079
her husband's criminal associates.

1029
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:39,599
Speaker 3: Whoever.

1030
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:43,039
Speaker 6: Frank, having covered her involvement, ambushes her at a private gala.

1031
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,119
She narrowly escapes with her life shaken, but determined.

1032
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: That does have to be probably one most scary things ever.

1033
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,639
You just see, like door gets kicked and it's just

1034
00:46:52,719 --> 00:47:02,920
Frank in the war machines. This is the ex wife.

1035
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 6: Episode four, Blood on the Streets, Fisk unveils the citywide

1036
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,840
surveillance system to track down vigilantes, forcing Matt, Peter, and

1037
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Frank to rethink their approach. Karen is hospitalized, leaving Matt

1038
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,320
feeling utterly alone. Fisk personally lures Daredevil into a trap,

1039
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,280
leading to one of the most brutal fights in the series.

1040
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,239
Pointdexter mortally wounds Jessica Jones, who sacrifices herself to save

1041
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:23,800
Matt and.

1042
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: Hey, Christy, we like you back. I just got some

1043
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:31,519
question about the script. I'm coming back and kill me off. Yeah,

1044
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:33,119
we want to close out the Netflix.

1045
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 6: Wow.

1046
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: So Bullseye kills her, you're saying, boys, Bullseye kills her.

1047
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1048
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 6: She sacrifices herself to save Matt in an alleyway ambush. Meanwhile, Castle,

1049
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,079
and an act of sheer vengeance, executes an entire gang

1050
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:55,400
oyl to Fisk, leaving a bloody message no kings, holy shit. Vanessa,

1051
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,079
still reeling from her near death experience, urges Fists to

1052
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:00,000
consider an exit strategy before they lose everything.

1053
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: Episode five, No.

1054
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Speaker 6: Man's Land, Uh we got yeah? Okay, This and three

1055
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,760
more episodes with the city in lockdown, vigilantes being hunted, Daredevil,

1056
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,599
Spider Man, Frank Castle form an uneasy alliance. Karen is

1057
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:15,840
kidnapped by Fisks men and used as bait. Peter infiltrates

1058
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,760
FIST tower and covering files, indicating a secret project, the

1059
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,079
Rebirth Initiative, an attempt to create super enhanced.

1060
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,039
Speaker 2: Forcers loyal to Fisk.

1061
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,199
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Bullseye, now completely unhinged, tracks down and kills Detective Mahoney,

1062
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:32,639
a long time ally of Matt's, intensifying the stakes. Vanessa,

1063
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,199
realizing Fisk will never stop, begins making plans of her

1064
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:40,159
own Episode six war on two fronts. As Castle continues

1065
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:43,039
his war, he faces off the gamest fisks personal enforcer

1066
00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:49,800
and old adversary John Pilgrim from Punish Her Season two okay. Meanwhile,

1067
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,599
Matt breaks into a high security black site to rescue Karen,

1068
00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:55,320
only to find her tortured and barely alive. Spider Man

1069
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,320
battles Bullseye and a high speechase across the city skyline,

1070
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,159
leading to a shocking moment. Roles I nearly kills Peter,

1071
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,239
only for Daredevil to save him. At the last second.

1072
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,199
Fisk orders full martial law in Hell's kitchen, they can't

1073
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,719
clear that no one is saved. In a grim turn,

1074
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,679
Frank is captured and publicly executed by FISKS forces.

1075
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: O my wow.

1076
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: So wait first see Furnisher and king Fin fight. It's

1077
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:26,159
just Kingston's forces execute you know, Berthall would fucking kill

1078
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,440
that scene though, like the do it like you would

1079
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,599
destroy that scene, sending.

1080
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 6: Setting a terrifying message to the city. Vanessa seeing the

1081
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,119
monster Fisk, has become against contemplating leaving him.

1082
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,119
Speaker 1: For he killed the.

1083
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: Trying to kill her.

1084
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: One of the most diabolical motherfuckers in comic's history. Like,

1085
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:53,079
I can't believe you killed the Punisher, Wilson, how could

1086
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:53,519
you do that?

1087
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,079
Speaker 6: Episode seven, The Fall of the King, The final battle begins, Daredevil,

1088
00:49:58,119 --> 00:49:59,920
Spider Man and what remains of the street level h

1089
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:03,960
Rose lunching all out assault on FISKS Empire. Luke Cage arrives,

1090
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,519
but even he is overwhelmed by Fisks sheer brute force.

1091
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,119
Speaker 3: Okay, does he die or is he just getting knocked out?

1092
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: Overwhelmed cake fan, I can sometimes be like two percent

1093
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,000
body fat. Luke Cage can take Bazukas to the chest

1094
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:20,960
like he should do, like he.

1095
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,079
Speaker 6: Gets between him and Vanessa.

1096
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: Though yeah, okay.

1097
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,599
Speaker 6: Karen barely able to walk helps expose Fisks crimes.

1098
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:39,079
Speaker 1: To the public. What a terrible season for her? Sad hospitalized, kidnapped, torture, Yeah,

1099
00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:41,039
Jesus bare dogg he's dead.

1100
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1101
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,639
Speaker 6: Helps expose fist crimes to the public, triggering mass riots.

1102
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:50,000
In a brutal confrontation, Daredevil finally beats bulls Eye, leaving

1103
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:55,320
him paralyzed. Peters sabotagees fisk surveillance network, exposing his darkest secrets,

1104
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,840
and Fisk, however, refuses to go down, easily killing several

1105
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:06,079
police officers they attempt to arrest him during the battle.

1106
00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:09,039
Speaker 1: What did happen to Luke Cage? So he was just overwhelmed.

1107
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 6: He was overwhelmed.

1108
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: Out of here, guys, Sorry next time.

1109
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 6: So yeah, killing several police officers they tend to arrest

1110
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:21,599
him during the Battle of Vanessa.

1111
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: Vanessa is Treasury killed in.

1112
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,679
Speaker 7: An accident falling from a high rise balcony. Have missed

1113
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,760
the chaos, as both Wilson, Fisk, and dared To Will

1114
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,719
witness her death. Uh a rage field breakdown, Fisk fights

1115
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,280
Matt with a level of brutalion never seen before, leading

1116
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,679
to their final showdown. Episode eight, The Devil's Reckoning with

1117
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,840
Fisk and custody.

1118
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: Oh I guess that's it.

1119
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: You got arrested, showed out you've never seen before. What

1120
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,679
was the last line that episode? Again?

1121
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 6: Again?

1122
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: Uh?

1123
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 6: Fisk fights Matt with a level of brutalion, brutality never

1124
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,039
seen before, leading to their final showdown, just like snack.

1125
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: Kicking his ass anyways, and he just can't take this episode.

1126
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:04,679
Speaker 2: He's in cuffs.

1127
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: He like cut to black. Oh I can't see that

1128
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:10,239
was just like, oh, you got me man.

1129
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 6: Matt reflects on what it means to be dared devil.

1130
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,079
Karen leaves New York unable to endure more loss. Peter,

1131
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,159
still anonymous, thanks Matt for his help before disappearing into

1132
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:22,880
the night, and a grim turned Fisk from his prison

1133
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,039
cell orchestrates another major attack, killing several key figures in

1134
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:28,760
New York's law enforcement, proving that his grip on the

1135
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:36,519
city remains. That Top realizes his war is far from over.

1136
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: Wuck him up and fas like, I'm just gonna kill Moore.

1137
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,920
Please let's keep doing it.

1138
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 6: Okay, so so okay, that's it. In a post credit scene,

1139
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:51,000
The Devil's Bargain in a dimly lit high tech facility.

1140
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: A shadowed figure.

1141
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,679
Speaker 6: Dimly lit high tech facility and.

1142
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 5: It's so fucking dim, like, I'm sure they can get

1143
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,400
the better lady.

1144
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:07,159
Speaker 1: Remember they did that with Moon. I remember Ethan Hawk

1145
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,599
the final boss fight. They did that. He just woke

1146
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:12,000
up and he was standing over Ethan Hawk and they're like, oh,

1147
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:14,599
that was this third personality that did it. But yeah,

1148
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:16,280
they could, that's what they're gonna do.

1149
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: I did not, I don't remember.

1150
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:20,199
Speaker 4: So.

1151
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 6: A shadowed figure walks past rows of he heavily armed guards,

1152
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:26,440
stopping at a reinforced cell door inside a bruised and

1153
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,480
bloodied Wilson. Fisk sits staring ahead emotionless. The door hisses open,

1154
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:34,800
and the visitor steps forward, a tall, imposing man in

1155
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,360
a long coat. As he steps into the light, his

1156
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:42,360
face is revealed. Barren Zemou. You took quite the beating,

1157
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,320
Zemo says in a cold, measured voice. But men like us,

1158
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,320
we never truly lose. We just wait for the right time. Fisk,

1159
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,119
without looking up, smirks slightly. And what time is that?

1160
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:59,079
Zimo leans in his gloved hand, taping the table. A

1161
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:04,239
time over war begins where we're going, NASA's gone, Fiscus

1162
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,679
harasses Fisks face.

1163
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: Then like me and you. We got to stick together

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and do something about this town whatever. That's just the

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same quote from fucking morbious.

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Speaker 1: Fisc has never been so hard. That's it, that's it,

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perfect well Asia, and there you go.