1 00:00:07,679 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Games Mornings with Me Jeff Grub, 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,240 your host from giant bomb dot com. 3 00:00:13,279 --> 00:00:15,679 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be. 4 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:18,679 Speaker 1: Talking about the video game industry's message to all its 5 00:00:18,679 --> 00:00:22,440 adoring fans, go to hell. It's gonna be a good 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,679 one because we have Lexiletti on the show, though, LEXI, 7 00:00:24,719 --> 00:00:25,320 how are you doing? 8 00:00:26,399 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: I don't think me being here is going to take 9 00:00:28,679 --> 00:00:30,440 it over to being a good one this time. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: I'll try you our best. We have to do some try, 11 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:36,159 but I. 12 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:39,119 Speaker 3: Will say right before this happened, a quick bit of 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,880 breaking news that is good news. Apparently the kraft On 14 00:00:42,119 --> 00:00:47,079 CEO stepped down and said that they will pay what 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,359 the court ordered them to pay, which, yeah, no shit, you've. 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: Bet fucking better. Yeah, you're going to do that. 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,799 Speaker 3: Crazy headline from Bloomberg was like Krafton agrees to pay 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,000 two hundred million dollar bone. 19 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:03,359 Speaker 4: I'm like, they didn't agree to ship agree to do shit. 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: They were compelled by the court of law. Did they 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,519 just fully put chat GPT in charge now? Is that 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,879 just the CEO going forward? 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,879 Speaker 3: I didn't see who's in charge now, but I think 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,000 it's a guy named Claude. 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Okay, fantastic, wonderful. 26 00:01:17,359 --> 00:01:21,439 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, welcome to the summer of gamers humiliation like 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,000 this is. It's going to be a parade of one 28 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:26,159 awful thing after another that this industry is going to 29 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:31,280 do to us. Yeah, I mean, look, go pirate video games. 30 00:01:31,599 --> 00:01:34,239 That's my stance. Now, just go steal them, Go play 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:40,200 old games. Have you heard a four go hack of 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,840 three ds? Do something cool with your life instead of 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,760 trying to keep up with these idiots. This is Uh, 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,280 We're coming in with the bummer attitude. You If you're 35 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:50,760 not caught up, you'll find out why here pretty soon 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,200 as we get through the news. But look, I'm about 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,640 to go on on a little vacation just you know. 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,799 It's a family it's a road trip. We're going up 39 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:02,599 to the Chi. It's nothing fancy, but it's something I 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,640 look forward to. I cannot trust this industry to not 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,080 ship its pants while I'm gone. Lexi is my is 42 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:11,439 what I'm thinking right now. I think that next week 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,280 is gonna be even dumber. Who knows, we'll see it? 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: Will it will? 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,479 Speaker 1: It certainly will because we know the Xbox cuts are coming, 46 00:02:17,719 --> 00:02:20,560 So it's just gonna I'm gonna try to tune out 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,159 and come back and see what fires got got started 48 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:25,840 while I was gone. I do have a show tomorrow everybody, 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,280 So yeah, so I'll be out Friday and next week, 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,560 but there will be Game US Morning's next week. I 51 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:33,240 talked to Mike Minatti. I said, buddy, could you get 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,240 up early for me? And he was chipper about it. 53 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,560 He's excited. So thanks to m for for handling the 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,159 show next week. 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: So you got your see being the grim Weaper death. 56 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,919 So he's excited for all the bottom. 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't think about leaving him with all 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,159 that ass. That's oh sorry, Bud. All right, let's you 59 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:53,919 know what, let's get through it. Welcome to the show, everybody, 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,759 Thank you for tuning in. Let's explain ourselves. 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That first episode is up now, it 81 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,439 is free if you want to check it out on YouTube. 82 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:54,800 I believe that's right, and then the new episodes going 83 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,159 forward of you know, these are test runs obviously that 84 00:03:57,199 --> 00:04:00,199 he's doing right now. Obviously the final run will be 85 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,479 happening in any second, but tune. 86 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: In for that on giant bomb dot com slash Joint. 87 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,039 Speaker 1: As far as this show goes most weekdays, I Jeff 88 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:08,240 Grub will help past your game. 89 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,879 Speaker 2: Oh go ahead? Would six three? 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,879 Speaker 4: Nana? 91 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:14,879 Speaker 2: Okay? So that's right? 92 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: Uh? 93 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,959 Speaker 2: Left? No, I got it wrong already. 94 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,199 Speaker 3: Shit, Yeah, that game seems like it would be impossible 95 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,600 with you fuckers in the background. 96 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not helping. I was trying. 97 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: I tried to help for five minutes and then I 98 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,680 got bored. So yeah, whose fault is that? 99 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: Listen, grub you I don't blame because like it's ADHD, 100 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:34,519 it's whatever. 101 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: Don actively sabotage. 102 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,199 Speaker 1: Oh yeah for sure, and like think and like coming 103 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,399 up with new ways to sabotage. 104 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: And is going to create a soundboard with those audio 105 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:45,519 clips on them. 106 00:04:45,399 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: Saying we did uh we did? Yes? 107 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: That did he say that in that first episode, because 108 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,160 he does eventually say that we Balk recorded him. LEXI, 109 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:55,560 you were one right that he had that thought and 110 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,000 said it out loud and he said he's not going 111 00:04:57,079 --> 00:04:57,680 to do it. 112 00:04:57,879 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens on the next Balk Report. 113 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,079 Speaker 1: Please so much as far as this show goes most weekdays, 114 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,120 I Jeff Greb will help piece your gaming life back together. 115 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:10,040 That includes breaking news and maybe even some of our 116 00:05:10,079 --> 00:05:13,199 own original reporting. For all these topics, I'll get the 117 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:15,560 input of a bona fide expert who will make me 118 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:18,600 look smart. If you were watching live on Twitch, welcome. 119 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,600 You can always listen to the show later on podcast 120 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,959 feeds by searching for game Mes Mornings, or find the rssfeed. 121 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: On GiantBomb dot com. 122 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: You can also catch the show later with chapters and 123 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:30,399 timestamps on YouTube. 124 00:05:31,519 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: Hello YouTube. 125 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,439 Speaker 1: All right, we have a lot to get into, so 126 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,160 let's start the morning mess with Rhythm Heaving Groove reviews. 127 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:40,120 It has an eighty four on oprah Critic, with just 128 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,800 a handful of reviews somewhere between like fifteen and twenty. 129 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,040 I think I'm one of those reviews. I'll talk about 130 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,439 my opinions here in a second. Did get a ten 131 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,279 out of ten from Jordan Biordy at CG Magazine. Rhythm 132 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,959 Heaven Groove is not only incredibly fun, back to buy 133 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,240 an amazing soundtrack, but it's so unbelievably accessible practically everyone 134 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,879 can play. It got a seven point five out of 135 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,839 ten from Serial Killers, which is either a person or 136 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,160 a website I don't know. Rhythm Heaving Groove is not 137 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,879 an easy game to evaluate, as it is a collection 138 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:16,720 of rhythm based mini games with extremely simplistic gameplay. Nevertheless, 139 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,319 we could not completely resist the series's unique charm and 140 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,600 found ourselves coming back for more, for just one more. 141 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,199 Speaker 2: Round, I should say time and time again, and then I. 142 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: Gave it four stars and I said rhythm Havn brings 143 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,000 the cute quirkiness the series is known for to the switch. 144 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,000 It's also packed with a lot of content and distractions. 145 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:39,079 It might be missing some of the charm that has 146 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,959 made previous games some of the best in the genre, though, 147 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,399 So yeah, that's kind of where I land on this thing. 148 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:47,240 The music is great when you're playing the mini games, 149 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,800 they are a ton of fun. I just think the 150 00:06:49,879 --> 00:06:54,800 presentation is off occasionally. It looks sometimes cheap. I think 151 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,720 the menus look almost like I didn't say this in 152 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:02,600 the review because it's but it looks like unity placeholders sometimes. 153 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: The main he was. 154 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: Gonna ask there was that whole ear of Nintendo games 155 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,879 that were kind of like business retrieve fun, you know, 156 00:07:11,519 --> 00:07:16,879 the Mario Party on the Wii games, all of the like, 157 00:07:16,879 --> 00:07:19,160 like just a lot of the font texts were like 158 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:21,920 what a bank manager thinks is fun when they go 159 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,399 on business retrieve and like is it kind of like 160 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:28,879 that or is it just like doesn't look finished? 161 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't This is not gonna make sense to anybody, 162 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:34,759 But Yes, this is the Alexi Lawless of Rhythm Heaven games. 163 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: Yes, that's unfair to Rhythm Heaven. 164 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:42,639 Speaker 1: Rhythm Heaven is like this game specifically, Groove just feels like, yes, 165 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:47,560 they they're some style was lost in the translation to 166 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:50,319 this one, not a ton, most of it's still there. 167 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,560 There are several mini games they have the cute, quirky 168 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,000 and style all happening at the same time, and those 169 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,879 ones are standouts for sure. I just think that they 170 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,839 they kind of have a house style now for each 171 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:06,040 of these looks, and it's got that like, you know, 172 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,600 sometimes it reminds me, I'm not saying it is, reminds 173 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,399 me of like AI art, where it's like, you know, 174 00:08:10,439 --> 00:08:13,519 there's like this weird texture to this cat doll that 175 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,000 tries to give it some depth, but it's still very 176 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,759 flat looking. I'll just say it looks generic many times. 177 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,279 That is my biggest criticism here. And it's not always generic. 178 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:26,079 A lot of times it's very charming. And then when 179 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,959 you are playing one of these one of these mini 180 00:08:27,959 --> 00:08:30,360 games that really does hit you kind of can't help 181 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:34,840 but just keep going until you can perfect it. And 182 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,639 the music is so good, the timing feels so right, 183 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:41,080 that you will kind of be in a situation where 184 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,720 like I can perfect these and I'm I'm look at me. 185 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,840 I don't have a ton of rhythm, and yet I'm 186 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,440 able to make it happen. Because that's what these games 187 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,519 do best, is they sort. 188 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:48,799 Speaker 2: Of I know. 189 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: Those shoulders don't lie. 190 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:53,519 Speaker 1: These shoulders don't lie. They are the whitest thing around, right, 191 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,720 I'm looking everywhere. It's whiter than the screen I have 192 00:08:55,799 --> 00:08:56,240 in front of them. 193 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,759 Speaker 3: Yes, it's very uh impressive that you're on a podcast 194 00:08:59,799 --> 00:09:02,720 with someone from Ireland and you're the widest person here. 195 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Look, I'm trying to do something about it. 196 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Traverse City and stand out in 197 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:09,480 the sun until I come back and I'm appropriate again. 198 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,799 I really enjoy this game. The number of levels is 199 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:17,840 right in that sweet spot where there's a ton here, 200 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,600 but it's not so overwhelming. That's like at a certain 201 00:09:19,639 --> 00:09:22,639 point I just run out of steam. There are some 202 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,639 great distractions, including beat Spell, which is they showed this 203 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:29,759 off in one of the direct trailers or whatever. It 204 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,080 is kind of an RPG like thing, but you do 205 00:09:33,159 --> 00:09:36,000 a rhythm based You have a diamond around your character, 206 00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:39,000 and the diamond at each point has a circle that's 207 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:41,320 where the beat is lining up. And if you press 208 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,000 B at the top circle and then for the next 209 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,320 beat the right circle you press A, you're gonna do 210 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,600 a flame spell, and if you want to do a 211 00:09:49,639 --> 00:09:52,720 healing spell, you do B down A, but the down 212 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:54,600 happens between the two beats. You kind of do a 213 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,679 half beat now, and that's a little bit different, and 214 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,080 you kind of feel like, Okay, I'm getting in the 215 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,039 flow of things. Then of course, there are more complicated spells, 216 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,960 and as you get done with fights, you can upgrade 217 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,600 these spells, and they're like short little runs. You kind 218 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,480 of do four fights in a row, and then you 219 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:10,320 start over on a different level and you kind of 220 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,360 have to upgrade everything again. That is super engaging actually 221 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,519 to go like to be in a fight and sort 222 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,159 of monitoring like the boss's damage level and how much 223 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,639 damage they're doing to you, your health, your HP and 224 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,360 trying to like, okay, I'm going to just sort of 225 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,960 default to doing an attack and I'll see you know, 226 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,960 like an RPG, it's it's gonna be elemental based. So 227 00:10:32,039 --> 00:10:34,200 this one is a fire boss. I'm gonna use my 228 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,799 wave spell, which actually takes a little bit longer to 229 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,960 do than the fire spell, so it's like it's a 230 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,120 little bit more risk reward, but clearly I have to 231 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,320 use it because that's a fire boss. You'll be doing that, 232 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:45,960 and then that boss, because it's a boss, can do 233 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:48,279 a lot of damage. As soon as that happens, you 234 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,759 flip over from doing the wave spell to doing your 235 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:55,519 heel and kind of flipping back and forth between that 236 00:10:55,639 --> 00:10:58,240 to the beat, trying to keep that all going without losing, 237 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,759 because once you mess up, it's a little bit hard 238 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:01,240 to get back on the beat and you kind of 239 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:03,720 feel like, oh my god, it's all falling apart. Trying 240 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,080 to recover from that is also very fun though, But 241 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,360 managing all of that in one go with these boss 242 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:12,320 battles is very fun. And it's not like some super 243 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:16,000 substantial thing LEXI this beat spell, but they dole it 244 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:18,639 out in a pretty smart way where they first open 245 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,879 it up after you complete like the first set of levels, 246 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:22,720 the first stage I think they call it a stage, 247 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,000 but like the first world. Then you go play that 248 00:11:25,039 --> 00:11:26,720 and it's like, okay, go do the second world, and 249 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,840 then you can come back, and so it creates this 250 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:30,720 sort of nice back and forth of like, oh, I 251 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,000 get to play more of that game as a break 252 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:35,360 between going to the next levels or whatever. 253 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: So it has nice. 254 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Pacing for this weird little rhythm game that that's weird, 255 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,279 but there's just so much stuff that you really can 256 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,840 distract yourself if you are losing steam on any of 257 00:11:44,879 --> 00:11:47,759 the levels. And then yes, perfecting the stage does feel 258 00:11:47,759 --> 00:11:50,960 as good as ever. I've only done it once, so yeah, 259 00:11:51,159 --> 00:11:54,000 but it really did stand out. Any interest in a 260 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:55,200 game like this, LEXI. 261 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,159 Speaker 2: I do. 262 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,919 Speaker 3: It's very hard to justify as someone that never had 263 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,840 ther them Heaven series growing up. I never owned DS 264 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,519 consoles when I was young, and it's very hard to 265 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,960 justify spending money on it. 266 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: I might reach out to Pure about it, but it is. 267 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm delighted that they are still making games like this, 268 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,399 and yeah it show is refreshing to see a video 269 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,519 game company make and release video games. 270 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be like and like not just that like this. 271 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,519 The worry that I always had with the Switch early on. 272 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:30,600 This is something I've probably talked about on this show, 273 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,200 but I talked about on some other shows in the past. 274 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: And that Switch game, it's like, Hm, cool, cool, cool, 275 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:35,879 I like this. 276 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,799 Speaker 1: You Oh, they're bringing all the studios together from the 277 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,759 three DS side and the WEU side and they're kind 278 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:42,159 of mixing them all together and be like, no, you 279 00:12:42,159 --> 00:12:44,240 guys just make switch games now, and like, oh, but wait, 280 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:48,919 I like these thirty forty dollars DS games and three 281 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,399 DS games that you guys were making in between all 282 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:52,919 the big ones that you were making for the WU 283 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,600 or even for the three DS, and are those going 284 00:12:55,639 --> 00:12:58,519 to go away? And it's like they kind of did 285 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,720 a little bit, but they're fine any ways to keep 286 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,919 doing them like this at fifty dollars. 287 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: And for me, I'm like, I will accept that as like. 288 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: They want to charge more because they obviously they want 289 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,279 to charge more for everything. If that means we keep 290 00:13:10,279 --> 00:13:13,080 getting these games that are they can't do for eighty 291 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,039 dollars and seventy dollars, I. 292 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: Will accept it. 293 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:17,519 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty happy with the results so far. I mean, 294 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,480 I think they've had a good run of these. Yoshi 295 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,600 was pretty good. There's god, there's other games coming. So 296 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,039 oh Splittoon Raiders is going to be a fifty dollars game, right, 297 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,080 So yeah, I think they kind of figured that stuff 298 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,440 out and I welcome it. 299 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: It's a single play a game glob that you play 300 00:13:34,039 --> 00:13:35,320 with your friends. 301 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,799 Speaker 2: That you can play with your friends. 302 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,799 Speaker 1: All right, Nintendo Switch two models spotted in the wild 303 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,200 with updated screen. Let's get this news out of the way, 304 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,320 because it's kind of fun. 305 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,399 Speaker 4: All these today so good. This is like, this is 306 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,440 also good that improving the switch screen. 307 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: We're on a roll here. Nothing can go wrong. I'm 308 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,120 gonna a. 309 00:13:55,159 --> 00:13:58,519 Speaker 1: New Nintendo Switch two model has reportedly been spotted featuring 310 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,519 a redesigned LCD screen, as spotted by Nintendo Patent's Watch, 311 00:14:02,879 --> 00:14:06,240 the updated model allegedly surfaced on a Chinese resale site 312 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,879 and featured a features a sharp LCD panel with significantly 313 00:14:09,879 --> 00:14:13,360 redesigned inputs compared to the standard switch to model, suggesting 314 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,600 that it's not a minor revision. It's speculated that the 315 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:19,039 new screen could potentially address the ghosting issue that the 316 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,759 Launch model suffers from compared to its predecessor, or it 317 00:14:23,759 --> 00:14:27,120 could simply be related to the revised Nintendo Switch to model, 318 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,919 recently confirmed to be coming to Europe to comply with 319 00:14:30,039 --> 00:14:33,720 new regulations requiring that all consumer products with built in 320 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:37,279 batteries make them easily removable. Either way, it's definitely not 321 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,559 the switch to oh, let upgrade many users have been 322 00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:42,960 hoping for and probably keep hoping for it, because I 323 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,600 doubt that's happening anytime soon since the console was first released. Yeah, 324 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:49,919 this is this is interesting just because it's like I 325 00:14:49,919 --> 00:14:52,360 think people are like, oh, could this happen already? And 326 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,240 it's maybe a bit soon. But I also think Nintendo 327 00:14:55,279 --> 00:14:59,320 would obviously be feeling the crunch to do anything they 328 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,840 can to have a revised model that reduces costs, and 329 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:06,759 you can sort of do two birds with one stone, right, 330 00:15:06,799 --> 00:15:09,039 Let's see where it's like, Hey, put in a new screen. 331 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:11,960 Let's go make our deal with Sharp for the next 332 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,240 set of screens for the switch and to start putting 333 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:18,000 those in this one while we comply with regulations and 334 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,559 also get costs down. 335 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: Like will this be? 336 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,519 Speaker 1: Will this be like the switch revision with the bigger 337 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:26,360 battery or the better battery? Wasn't bigger a better battery life? 338 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:30,320 I should say probably not, because that had a revised 339 00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:33,039 chip like that was that used a smaller process so 340 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,519 it was more energy efficient. I don't know if that's 341 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:39,480 happening here, although I guess I wouldn't be insanely surprised 342 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:40,919 if that is the case. 343 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:43,399 Speaker 2: Again, that would be a real good way for them. 344 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: To reduce costs because they could get more chips per 345 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:50,200 way for stuff like that. But yeah, I guess, I 346 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,480 guess maybe an improved screen. That sounds good to me, 347 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:54,679 although I'm not someone who's noticed the ghosting yet. 348 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: It is funny that will like ooh and improve screen from. 349 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,759 Speaker 3: Shop Yeah gat, any that's how bad the screen was 350 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:05,639 that were like who sharp woo sharp? 351 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: And then I know the Nintendo has worked with sharp 352 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,799 on screens since like the game and Watch, which is crazy. 353 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:15,080 It's like, yeah, but where they still do all right 354 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,720 screens is on handhelds or that form factor. 355 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:21,919 Speaker 3: But yeah, Nintendo have done these minor divisions early on 356 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,440 in console generations before they did it for the Switch one, 357 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:31,399 if you remember, was cracked within a week and was 358 00:16:31,559 --> 00:16:33,879 very easy to polish, to the point that if you 359 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,600 were a games reviewer, they wouldn't send you a code 360 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:39,480 if you owned a Launch switch model. You would have 361 00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:44,159 to own a more late series Switch model or Switch 362 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,840 O led or whatever, which sure wasn't a pain in 363 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:48,279 the ass. 364 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: And okay, so if you. 365 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Give it to the wrong people, they're going to tell 366 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:52,840 you how many cat shines are in a game, and 367 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,720 then it's just it's bad and you're. 368 00:16:55,039 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, so and trust these reviewers. 369 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,879 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not surprised that they doing this because 370 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,160 I don't know. I've gotten to the point with the 371 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,480 switch to screen where for three D games I can 372 00:17:06,519 --> 00:17:09,359 generally ignore it. But when I play two D stuff 373 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,720 that the ghosting is on, the smelling is pretty off sometimes, 374 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,160 and it's something that I do notice, but I know 375 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,839 lots of people don't. If it's something that brings down 376 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,480 that price, that's fucking great, Like now, like anything to 377 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,599 bring down that price, and if it happens to be better, 378 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,359 that would be lovely. 379 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: Exactly if we, like we get a little bit more 380 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,880 out of that for people buying Switch two is going 381 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,559 forward like this is not the kind of thing where 382 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:35,839 I think, oh, I'm gonna replace my switch to or 383 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,960 anything LEXI like that would be kind of crazy, because 384 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,920 I do expect more revisions, more substantial revisions to becoming 385 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,759 not that far off. Like you know, we could be 386 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:47,880 in a situation where in a year two years, we're 387 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,440 going to be seeing a switch to model and maybe 388 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,440 like a switch to light that could really get the 389 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,480 cost down potentially, I guess, and if those comings again 390 00:17:57,519 --> 00:17:59,400 at that point, I probably will upgrade. But I'm still 391 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,240 pretty happy with the switch to I let me see. 392 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:02,759 Speaker 2: The screen in person. 393 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:05,799 Speaker 1: I guess maybe if it's substantially better, like very noticeably better, 394 00:18:05,799 --> 00:18:08,599 without like the side by side comparison, maybe that would 395 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:08,920 move me. 396 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: But I'm not expecting that. 397 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: The big problem with a Liiche console this generation is that, 398 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,279 like the switch one, Liiche got way cheaper because they 399 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:20,640 took out a lot of the expensive stuff, a lot 400 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,920 of the expensive eye ore cameras and you know, the 401 00:18:24,519 --> 00:18:27,079 joy con functionality and stuff like that. That's not the 402 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:29,599 stuff that's expensive anymore. Like that stuff, I don't know, 403 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,359 fucking pennies. It's the stuff that has to go in 404 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,400 it anyway that's still fucking that's now expensive. So actually 405 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,559 bringing prices down for a switch light is going to 406 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:40,279 be a real challenge. 407 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: Yep, I think you're right, Uh I do. I do 408 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,519 wonder how they're like thinking about that stuff, because you know, 409 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:49,119 they have probably had plans to do all kinds of 410 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,039 different revisions along the way on the on the road map, 411 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:55,000 and I always got the sense that they were going 412 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:59,000 to plan a light alongside twenty twenty seven to get 413 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,440 close to that Pokemon game. But yeah, it's probably not 414 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,720 gonna happen that soon. No way, All right, let's get 415 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,319 to this next one. Let's let's get into it. Physical 416 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,039 disc production ending in January twenty twenty eight for new 417 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,400 games releasing on PlayStation consoles. 418 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: I will repeat it for people who are. 419 00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: Like, wait, what physical disc production ending in January twenty 420 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,279 twenty January twenty twenty eight for new games, All new 421 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:28,839 games releasing on PlayStation consoles. 422 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,799 Speaker 3: Let's be fair before we get into this. How is 423 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:36,839 the Sony Corporation meant to manufacture blue lay discs? 424 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: I just they really have to. 425 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,519 Speaker 1: They probably have to go through some byzantine network and 426 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:43,000 like talk to some people in back alleys, like who 427 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,599 even handles that Blu Ray consortium. It's impossible to know. 428 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:51,200 From Sid Schumann at PlayStation Dot blog. As consumer preferences 429 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,880 in the broader entertainment industry continue to shift away from 430 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,279 physical discs to digital, physical game disc production for all 431 00:19:57,279 --> 00:20:00,400 new games releasing on PlayStation consoles will be discontent you'd 432 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,319 starting January twenty twenty eight, following the state new games 433 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:06,720 will be available on PlayStation store and at retailers in 434 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:10,000 digital formats only. This transition has no impact on games 435 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,960 that already released or will be releasing prior to January 436 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,599 twenty twenty eight in disc format. This is a natural 437 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,440 direction for Sony Interactive Entertainment to adapt to consumer trends. 438 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,400 It's the general preferences for digital media significantly outpaceds physical discs. 439 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,240 This transition will enable us to align more closely with 440 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:28,519 how most of our community prefers to access and play 441 00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:31,640 games today. I don't give a fuck about you aligning 442 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,160 with that. What are you saying? 443 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: Why is what? Oh great, they're aligned with trends, LEXI. 444 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 3: That was the problem with the games industry. We went 445 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,640 aligned with trends enough. 446 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: To throw such a huge party about it, LEXI, what 447 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,279 come on to show some decorum. 448 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: Don't be so excited about this. I don't look. We know, 449 00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:56,799 like we were on a sort of a timer here, 450 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,160 like we knew. 451 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: Not Piscitella was out that kind of saying like disked 452 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,880 podnucks were on borrowed time. But I think that the 453 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,680 thing that I think Sean on Blue Sky mentioned, and 454 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,079 it's a very salient point, is that like this isn't 455 00:21:14,079 --> 00:21:18,039 about getting rid of the secondhand market necessarily, like that's 456 00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:20,160 a bonus for them. That's certainly a bonus for them. 457 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,880 It's about having the only marksh in a place where 458 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,400 you can buy these stuff. Like PlayStation is a closed ecosystem. 459 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,279 If you own a PlayStation, you can't buy games on 460 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,079 any other storefront unless you buy physical games, unless you 461 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,720 go out and you shop around between Best Buy and 462 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:42,279 Target and CeX and all these different retailers across the world, 463 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:47,319 and you compare prices, and they push prices down PlayStation. 464 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:51,200 If everything is digital and everything is only on their storefront, 465 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,000 they set the price. These are companies that are looking 466 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,480 over at how the RAM companies are doing business, and 467 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,519 I'm going, why aren't we acting like this be making 468 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:05,559 so much more money if we just became monopolies and 469 00:22:05,599 --> 00:22:08,880 we did that because fucking no one's gonna regulate us, 470 00:22:09,759 --> 00:22:12,400 because apparently there's bigger problems. 471 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: In the world right now. 472 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:18,599 Speaker 3: I think that also, this coming literally days after all 473 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:24,240 those Studio Channel movies were taken out of PlayStation users libraries, 474 00:22:24,839 --> 00:22:26,960 Like that's less of a red flag and more of 475 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,599 a smoking gun of this is the kind of economy 476 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,799 and ecosystem that these companies want to build like it's 477 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,960 not only this is them saying you don't own anything anymore. 478 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,480 Everything is at will. You pay money to rent a 479 00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:42,519 thing from us until we take it away, and we 480 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:44,680 can take it away at will. That's the model that 481 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,720 they're going for here, Like you're no longer buying a license. 482 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,640 You're buying you know, a timer and a timer that 483 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,119 you can't see and they will take it away. And 484 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,119 we know they'll take it away because of the next 485 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,519 story that they posted on the Place blog today and 486 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,160 so like, yeah, if you want to own your shit, 487 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:09,680 the only way to do it now is it's either 488 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,880 piracy or it's to play old consoles that do have 489 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:18,279 physical like media, and that fucking sucks. This is what 490 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,519 happens when you don't have competition in the video game 491 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:24,680 console space, like Nintendo off doing their own thing, and 492 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,359 that's great, and we like Nintendo games, but they are 493 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,640 not competing directly with Sony. Xbox were the force that 494 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,720 were competing directly with Sony, and when there isn't another 495 00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:38,759 company there to push these other companies in line with 496 00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:42,400 you know, consumer good will and to keep fighting for 497 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,640 consumer good will, to try to best each other this 498 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:47,559 is what you gets. And right now you have an 499 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,799 Xbox that is clearly check the fuck out and does 500 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,839 not give a shit about consumer good will, And so 501 00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:57,400 Sony's going to like, well, if they don't have to, 502 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,880 why the fuck should we really like eighty percent of 503 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,559 the marksh So, yeah, like this whole fucking thing is 504 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,559 I said it on Blue Sky a few months ago, 505 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,960 and it's more true today than it was then. Of 506 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:15,880 the games industry feels like a house powers you where 507 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,240 all the music got turned off. 508 00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and now people are just looking around and what 509 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,640 do you do next? 510 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:24,799 Speaker 1: It's kind of it's almost worse than that, right, It's 511 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,279 like it's a house party where it's like you went 512 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:29,720 to the bathroom and you came back and the only 513 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,039 people there are now the parents who owned the house, 514 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,440 and it's like it's like, oh, okay, this has bad 515 00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:40,119 vibes and sucks, and their interests are not aligned with mine, 516 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,359 and all. 517 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:44,759 Speaker 3: The parents' lawyers and all of them investors, and like 518 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,920 all of the young kids are gone because they can't 519 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,960 afford to fucking be near the house anymore. And you're like, well, 520 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,160 I guess I'm we're gonna have to take out a 521 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,279 fucking loan to spend time in this house. 522 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: It's yes. 523 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: Uh, people are pointing out a bunch of extra stuff 524 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,960 in the chat, like, for example, they stop selling digital 525 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,079 codes at retailers for games in twenty nineteen, like a. 526 00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:04,799 Speaker 2: Long time ago. 527 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:06,799 Speaker 1: So it's not like you can go to your game 528 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,680 game stop and like be like, okay, just give me 529 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:13,400 a digital code for X or Y, Like that will 530 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,079 come down to the publishers putting those codes in boxes. 531 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,920 That's your best chance to get that. So yeah, and 532 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,680 then like we knew retail was sort of like diminishing, 533 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,440 like GameStop was something that people were not visiting as much, 534 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:31,039 but there was still competition for pricing and that did 535 00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,559 mostly actually come from the secondhand market. That's why like 536 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:37,000 that sort of became synonymous with the market as a whole, 537 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,960 because that's where a lot of people who are our 538 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:45,720 price conscience were finding themselves. So man, backwards compatibility on 539 00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:47,000 the place, you know what, let's get to the next 540 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,359 story that we can bring it in PlayStation six almost 541 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,000 guaranteed for twenty twenty eight after digital Only News Analysts 542 00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:58,480 says this is from Andy Robinson at VGC Wednesday's News 543 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,839 that PlayStation will discontinue all physical game disc productions starting 544 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,680 in January twenty twenty eight, almost certainly guarantees that PlayStation 545 00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:09,279 six won't launch before that date. That's according to Mpeer 546 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,759 analyst Peers harding Roles, who believes that confirmation of PlayStation's 547 00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:17,599 all digital future telegraphs quite a lot of information about 548 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,839 Sony's next generation console, which was previously expected to arrive 549 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,960 in late twenty twenty seven. First, we believe this almost 550 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,359 certainly guarantees that the PlayStation six won't arrive until twenty 551 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,279 twenty eight at the earliest, he said, and Pierre's current 552 00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:33,480 expectation is that the console will launch at the end 553 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,599 of twenty twenty eight. Secondly, according to harding Roles, PlayStation 554 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,200 six will now at a minimum not include a of 555 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,880 a physical disk drive, which obviously Sony will be looking 556 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,400 for all the ways it can reduce the cost of 557 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,920 its next gen console, and this is an easy win. 558 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:49,799 Speaker 2: He added. 559 00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,039 Speaker 1: It's possible that an add on disk drive could be 560 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,119 made available to play older PS four and PS five 561 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,519 games on disc LEXI do you think that's true? 562 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going to in this way, it doesn't feel true. 563 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: It if they are not out there saying you will 564 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:09,160 still be able to buy or play all those PlayStation 565 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,079 five discs. I own three copies of Mind's Eye for 566 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,799 the PS five. What am I meant to do now? 567 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:15,559 Speaker 2: I'm two? 568 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,319 Speaker 4: Now if I want to play it on a PS six, 569 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:21,000 And yeah, I think that. 570 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: If they're not out there saying like you'll still be 571 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960 able to play your full library, they're not saying that. 572 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,640 And that's what you say when you want people to 573 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,839 You want to reassure people they can still play their 574 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:30,880 full library. 575 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: And like, even if you haven't announced the PS six, 576 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,559 right you say, and don't worry. In the future, we 577 00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:40,279 will provide solutions to those of you with massive game 578 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,839 disc collections that's nowhere to be found in here. They 579 00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:46,759 have no reference to people though. They just say this 580 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,799 doesn't effect games that have already come out, which, yeah, no, ship, 581 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,319 what do you mean? 582 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 2: Of course? 583 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: I can still play a PS two if I want to. 584 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,680 What the fuck are you talking about? 585 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm with you where It's like I was 586 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,960 like yesterday's show maybe or on the BombCast yesterday, I 587 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,039 was talking about like, yeah, you know, the next gen 588 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,079 consoles won't launch with disk drives, but they'll have disk 589 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,759 drives to sell one hundred and fifty dollars collectors editions. 590 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,519 Speaker 2: You know the way this works, or you know what 591 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:15,559 the way it worked. I don't. 592 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with these days exactly with how this 593 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,640 all goes down. But the way it used to work 594 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:23,200 was you'd make a game, you would go to the 595 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,160 Nintendo's and the PlayStations and be like, okay, can we 596 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,519 get some copies printed? 597 00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: And then they were like, yeah, yeah, you kind of 598 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,440 pay us a. 599 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: Little bit of money, we'll do the printing for you, 600 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:34,759 or that's part of the licensing fee to be on 601 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,440 our platform, and we control the discs and stuff like that. 602 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,039 So if PlayStation's not doing it and they're saying all 603 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,279 all new games like, well not like to me, that 604 00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:46,920 says there's not even going to be a solution for 605 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:50,920 the boutique printers to get their discs on these consoles, mean, 606 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,960 and why would Sony like bother with making a drive 607 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,119 If that's the. 608 00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:58,799 Speaker 3: Case, they're clearly not communicating with those boutique printers, because 609 00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:00,960 I've seen no less then like three of them put 610 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,480 out statements being like we're going to fucking fight for something, 611 00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:05,720 but we don't know what we're even going to be 612 00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:08,200 fighting for yet because we we don't know like what 613 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:13,880 the extent of this is. I think, I think, right, 614 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:19,759 I'll find one of the quotes there. But yes, these companies, 615 00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:22,240 I am a basial omitsion run. They seem like they 616 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,079 have been taken lost and cult are also out there 617 00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,319 saying that we aim to do everything on a power 618 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:30,880 to preserve video. We aim so the best of our 619 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160 ability and will continue to do so as long as 620 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,680 we can, and like no sense of communication and no 621 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,200 sense of like if there's any way forward for these 622 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,440 companies that are built around this boutique industry to still exist. 623 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:53,720 So yeah, it's fucking nuts, the like just cutthroatness of 624 00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:54,480 this industry. 625 00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: The last few weeks, it feels. 626 00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: Exceptionally like the last fifteen or so years were people 627 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:08,079 positioning themselves in pro consumer ways and now they've all realized. 628 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:09,599 Speaker 4: They've looked over on. 629 00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:14,839 Speaker 1: Stage being like man disks rule fuck xpots and it's 630 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,359 been like a little over ten years and here we are. 631 00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: And over the last six eighteen months they've kind of 632 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,839 looked over at AI companies and seeing how they've brute 633 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,680 forced the market, and you don't actually need people to 634 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200 like your product. You don't need people to like you, 635 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,599 You don't need people to use your product. You just 636 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,599 need to create a circular flow of investment and money 637 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,519 that you can keep on feeding to yourself. And you 638 00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:42,039 can cut out all the paws that were limiting you. 639 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:45,200 You can cut out all the paws that had expectations 640 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,200 and demands and you know, personal opinions, and you can 641 00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:52,799 just find ways to make people have to give you money. 642 00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,279 Speaker 1: It's the ultimate case shape economy, right, that's where we're 643 00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:58,279 headed with the case shape of like in the K 644 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,720 shape economy is like, hey, you feel like you don't 645 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:02,359 have as much money and the economy is really bad. 646 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true for you. 647 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: Uh, but then why do you look at the stock 648 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,920 market and it's up, Well, like there's for the top 649 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,240 ten percent, top fifteen percent, it's going the other direction. 650 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,160 Things are getting better all that money. You know, the 651 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,319 economy is not growing, but they the rich, keep getting 652 00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:17,119 more money. You have less money. Gee, I wonder where 653 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,160 their money's coming from. So it's a situation where every 654 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,720 sort of business has to reorientate themselves toward that the 655 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,039 top of the K and be like we the money 656 00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:30,279 has to come from the people who already have money, 657 00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,319 and that then you get into these circular investments stress schemes. 658 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:35,279 Speaker 2: Uh and yeah, and. 659 00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:36,799 Speaker 1: They're the ones that aren't a part of it yet 660 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:38,720 are jealous and are trying to find out ways to 661 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,240 get get into that party without you know, any concern 662 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,839 about when. 663 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: The balloons will pop or anything like that. Okay, so 664 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,880 here's here are a couple of things. 665 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: PlayStation five pro is already a PlayStation six, and if 666 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,240 you have that PS five, there's not going to be 667 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,440 a much reason to get a PlayStations because the games 668 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,599 are not going to look that much better, They're not 669 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,559 going to be that much different. And they're like, no 670 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,200 way they're gonna cut off the PS five prematurely with 671 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,559 like it's gonna be a long cross gin period, so 672 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,680 like people aren't are already gonna be like why am 673 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,920 I getting the PS six And to give them, like 674 00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:18,559 to give the physical people who are in that early 675 00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:22,279 adopter like like a big part of that a reason 676 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,519 to skip out on it just seems like a little bit. 677 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:26,960 So now the way they can counter that is and 678 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,160 it seems like this is the direction they're going. PS 679 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,000 six could maybe at this point be a handheld first 680 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,720 and foremost, where it's like it's a you know, a 681 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:38,440 portable version of PS five or something like that, and 682 00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:41,240 they call it a PS six and it has you know, 683 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,400 it has a portable you know potential or whatever. In 684 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,720 O case, it was never gonna have. 685 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,279 Speaker 2: A disk drive. 686 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: That sounded like a great idea a year and a 687 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:52,359 half ago. But now you look over at the cost 688 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,599 of like a Lenovo Legion Go or any of these things. 689 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 690 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, these these these PC hontelds new ones, which are 691 00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:04,920 basically what you'd want, you know, They are not like 692 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,359 exceptionally overpowered. They are kind of like what was promised 693 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,359 with the Steam deck of this is where we'll get 694 00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:14,359 to with second and third generation. So these products you 695 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,880 look over at them and you're like, these are not 696 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,720 affordable to consumers. These are not affordable to enthusiasts. These 697 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:26,920 are affordable to rich people. Uh, and that's kind of ish. 698 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,799 And so yeah, like I suddenly that multiple skew PlayStation 699 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,720 alartment also multiple SKUs sounds like way more difficult nowadays 700 00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,839 because suddenly they will be trying to get different types 701 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,599 of v RAM and RAM and like they will be 702 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,480 trying to get different components for these different. 703 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,599 Speaker 4: Skews, and we know from the Steam Machine that. 704 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: Even agreeing like on one thing like that put they're 705 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,039 putting one stick of de of ram, one stick of 706 00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:58,759 ram into each Steam Machine. 707 00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 4: You shouldn't be doing that. You shouldn't be doing that 708 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,359 with your yeah, yeah, And so like. 709 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,519 Speaker 3: This feels like the extra skews because right now we're 710 00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:13,800 here and kind of blooms is that it will be too, 711 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,159 will be a handheld at a you know, desk or 712 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,679 you know, actual console. We all deal console, and that 713 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,960 seems like it's going to cause them a whole lot 714 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,800 of headaches in the current market where swashing any kind 715 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,280 of components for any kind of hardware is extremely difficult. 716 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: Later today, after the show, we're going to be doing 717 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,599 a stream with Abby Russell where we sit down and 718 00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:41,760 talk about like emulation handhelds and stuff, and we'll make 719 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,639 the focus of that sort of how can we still 720 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,800 enjoy this hobby after all this stuff? 721 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,039 Speaker 2: Everybody so one of these. 722 00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the yes, exactly what we're talking about that 723 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,280 we're going to kind of do a bring in my 724 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,000 top three emulation handhelds and we'll talk to abby about it, 725 00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:57,199 answer her questions and chat. 726 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,079 Speaker 2: Bring your questions please. 727 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,199 Speaker 3: And I can play Dirt three at sixty FBS on 728 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,920 the go anytime I want. 729 00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 4: Life is so good. 730 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: Which is what I'm gonna be doing now on my vacation. 731 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,760 I've decided. Hell yeah, I'm gonna get Dirt three on 732 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,199 my foor. 733 00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,159 Speaker 3: Okay, might be a little bit difficult to source a 734 00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:16,079 steam code on that one. 735 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,679 Speaker 2: Glub Oh, okay, I'll figure it out. Don't worry. I'll 736 00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:19,239 get it going. 737 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's see here from uh, let's see you 738 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:24,679 know what. 739 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,079 Speaker 2: Let's take a break. 740 00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:28,519 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, let's take a break and then we'll come 741 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,960 back and talk about more Sony news about them doing stuff. 742 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,679 Speaker 2: They're doing it all at once again. Well they can 743 00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:36,000 get away with it. It feels like we'll get into 744 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,519 all that after these messages. 745 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: If you want to skip out on these ads, you 746 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,079 can do that giant bomb dot com slash join you 747 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:43,800 can get the ad free versions of the Show's there. 748 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: We will be right back, all right. 749 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,199 Speaker 1: It's Games Mornings, Lexiletti, Jeff grub LEXI, what's up? 750 00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 3: Before we get back into the bad news, I feel 751 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,320 like I should choo us all up, please, Yer Cruz Alvarez, 752 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,320 friend of the sis Pure person is currently on maternity 753 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,679 leave and or paternal leave which I can't remember, and 754 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,000 parental Creed believe very cute picture with his baby just 755 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:20,880 went up wrapped in a Super Mario three D World 756 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:30,039 mainline Mario you know yeah Blankish Dan has replied, get 757 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:36,320 me on the phone with Ish cool. 758 00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:40,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan versus children. It's a battle as old as time. 759 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,559 It's just it's always epic, all right. Sony is closing 760 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:46,920 the PlayStation Store on PS three and Vida. If that 761 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:50,840 sounds familiar, this has happened before. From Chris Scullian at VGC, 762 00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:53,360 Sony has announced that it will be closing the PlayStation 763 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,880 Store for PlayStation three and Vida after nearly two decades 764 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,400 of supporting the PS three console generation. We wanted to 765 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,679 let you know we will be closing the PlayStation store 766 00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:03,960 on PS three as well as the PS Veta. The 767 00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,880 company said, to ease the transition, players will still be 768 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,840 able to download previously purchase content after the closing. 769 00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:11,519 Speaker 2: Date for the foreseeable future. 770 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: Definitely putting a period at the end of that sentence 771 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,480 where it's like, well, okay, I mean, I mean there 772 00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:18,239 is a time where this won't be the case, which, 773 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,880 of course, of course that's the situation. According to Sony, 774 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,320 the PS three store will first close in Mexico, Honduras, 775 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,400 and Nicaragua in August twenty twenty six, followed by additional 776 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,400 Latin America and Middle Eastern Middle Eastern countries in late 777 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,519 twenty twenty six. The PS three and Vita stores in 778 00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:38,760 all other countries will then close in July twenty twenty seven. 779 00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:41,800 They originally tried to do this, if you people remember 780 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,280 way back in twenty twenty one, five years ago now 781 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,199 and then everyone kind of freaked out, was like this 782 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,440 feels too soon, and PlayStation backed off and I'll say 783 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,320 five years. It was a longer stay of execution than 784 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,880 I was expecting at that time. And I think at 785 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,360 this point Sony could be like, look, you guys said 786 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,239 you were going to freak out. Do you want to 787 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,159 see the numbers of how many PlayStation three games you 788 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,000 guys are buying? Here are both of them? 789 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: Like, do you want to know what you have to 790 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,599 do to buy a game on the PS three nowadays? 791 00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: Yes? Actually, I bet, I bet it is a pin 792 00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:16,760 in the. 793 00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 3: Ass, because I did this a few years ago, I 794 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960 built up a bit of a PS three library because 795 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,960 I was like, I love my PS three. I never 796 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,000 played that many online games because I or you know, 797 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,599 did you hold it games because I didn't have access 798 00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,119 to a credit card when I was younger, and so 799 00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:32,440 I was like, I'm going to get some of the 800 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:36,320 like important PlayStation three download titles or whatever. If you 801 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,360 want to buy a new game on the PlayStation three, 802 00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:41,599 first you have to log into your PS four or 803 00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:45,000 PS five. You have to delete any credit cards that 804 00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:47,760 you have tied to that account, because if you try 805 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,920 to buy a game on the PS three store with 806 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,320 a credit card, it errs out and it says it 807 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,440 can't it just won't do that. Then you have to 808 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,920 go to an in person store and buy an voucher 809 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,719 and put that money onto your PSN account. Also on 810 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,519 your PS four PS five, then you can log into 811 00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:14,760 the PS three store or Vita store and peruse their 812 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,960 selection of games on the world's slowest storefront. 813 00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 2: Can't take delivery network from the Flintstones. 814 00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:25,519 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And you can purchase things that way, and 815 00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:30,320 if you re add your credit card to your account, 816 00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:32,079 you have to do that all over again. 817 00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 2: Cool man. The consoles just work, is what I always say. 818 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's them just not carrying right. They just 819 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,840 didn't care to fix any of that, so yeah, people 820 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,239 had to find ways around. I think that they are 821 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,199 gonna just like to use that situation that they obviously 822 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,320 created to be like, people aren't really buying these games anymore. 823 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,000 We gave you a lot of extra time. We're gonna 824 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,280 shut these things down. And it does seem quieter this time. 825 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,280 I guess I haven't looked around too much. I bet 826 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,079 the people are still having a bit of a backlash. 827 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,119 Speaker 2: To this news. 828 00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: But this is the eventual fate of all of these stores. 829 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:10,559 I mean, it's the eventual fate of everything. 830 00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 2: Everything. Nothing lasts forever, duh. 831 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: But it does feel weird to be like, man, when 832 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,320 you buy these games in that moment, it does feel 833 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,639 like I have this, It's eternal, this thing is now mine, 834 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:26,119 and that feeling has always been a lie, and it 835 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:28,519 never feels more true than when a store like this 836 00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:32,239 closes down. Now, PS four the whole thing, you know, 837 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,440 and Phil Spencer said this about like the whole thing 838 00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,320 with the strength of the PS PlayStation brand now at 839 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,320 this point is people got PS four's in the droves 840 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:43,119 in DROs because it seemed like the right system to 841 00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:46,000 get it was one hundred dollars cheaper, and it just 842 00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:47,159 Xbox felt like it was. 843 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:48,159 Speaker 2: Poisoned in that moment. 844 00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: After Xbox One and then immediately following that, people began 845 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,840 building up their digital libraries on the PlayStation. Obviously some 846 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,079 of that happened on PS three, but mostly happened on 847 00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:00,760 PS four, and it sort of cemented people in that moment. Uh, 848 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,280 the PS four store because of that, you would think 849 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,079 should be running for way longer. Am I missing something there? 850 00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:11,039 Should we expect that to close down soon as well? 851 00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 2: Lexi? 852 00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:13,039 Speaker 4: Or what I mean? 853 00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 3: It's fundamentally a thing where they've said that their future 854 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,639 consoles are going to be built on the same architecture, right, And. 855 00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:21,599 Speaker 2: That's that's right. 856 00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: That's so it's like the PS five store is the 857 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,360 PS four store essentially, Yeah. 858 00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:27,159 Speaker 3: In a lot of ways. And so that's like the 859 00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:29,480 one saving grace that you have is that. And now 860 00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,679 a lot of this stuff is built into the main 861 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,239 the current systems as much as it is the old systems. 862 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,920 The PS three to PS four store, Yes, you had 863 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,840 like some crossby games, but you aren't able to Yeah, 864 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,440 you're not natively able to run PS three applications on 865 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,639 your PS four PS five Remember when that was a 866 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,519 rumor back at like before the PS five came out, 867 00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:55,760 when the big rumor was like, yeah, you'll be able 868 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,119 to play PS three games on't it? 869 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,159 Speaker 2: Yeah? 870 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:05,639 Speaker 1: Yep, what a different world, man, God, Yeah, right, put 871 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:07,719 a PS three disc into your PS six What will happen? 872 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,599 Speaker 2: Will explode? 873 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the kind of thing where, look, this 874 00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:18,760 is the situation we find ourselves in. We don't have 875 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,079 to accept it. But what does that look like? I mean, 876 00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:22,679 it can look like yelling at these companies to try 877 00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:24,480 to get them to change their mind. What it really 878 00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:26,599 looks like is taking matters into your own hands and 879 00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:29,400 being part of communities that are preserving these things on 880 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,000 their own and living the life of saying, oh, I 881 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,159 did buy this thing. 882 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: It is mine. 883 00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:38,159 Speaker 1: I don't care what you say the lawyer at this 884 00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:40,039 corporation about licenses or whatever. 885 00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:41,199 Speaker 2: I bought it. It's mine. 886 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: Ethically, I'm in the clear, and I'm going to do 887 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,360 what I need to do to make sure that I 888 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,360 have access to this game for the rest of my 889 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,719 life and onto my children's lives, and passing it on 890 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,800 to them this is mine now, and that comes down 891 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,679 to community preservation. It comes down to emulation and all 892 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,119 of the various ways that people have found to do this, 893 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,000 and it is why those scenes are thriving. 894 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:03,679 Speaker 3: The one thing that I forgot to say is, you know, 895 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,800 like for the last news story and this one, this 896 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,039 also comes at a time where storage space on systems 897 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,000 is now worth actual monetary value in a way, like 898 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,440 I had a really fucked up fart the other day, 899 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,800 which is how much storage space will GGA f six 900 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:24,480 be worth? 901 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 2: Yes, in like in like sense, Yeah, yeah. 902 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,079 Speaker 3: It's not going to be sense scrub because that game 903 00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:32,480 is going to be over two hundred and fifty gigabytes. 904 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,920 And if you look for two hundred and fifty or 905 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,480 you know whatever gigabyte drive on Amazon right now, those 906 00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:43,480 are about one hundred dollars for one hundred dollars. Yeah, yeah, 907 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,320 it's good. It's going to take up one hundred dollars 908 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,320 worth of space. Also worth remembering that most ps fives, 909 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,119 even the ones that are listed as one terabyte, ship 910 00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:56,159 with six hundred gigabytes of usable space or six hundred 911 00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:57,960 and fifty bytes of usable space, So. 912 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,559 Speaker 1: That's also right, it's crazy because they say Terribyte, but 913 00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:03,679 they were never one terribyte, right, there were it was 914 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,599 like eight twenty five, and then it was. 915 00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 4: Eight twenty five, and then there was the system system. 916 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,280 Ohs and yeah, yeah, crazy. 917 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,599 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move on here. Hideo Kojima's Xbox 918 00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:20,519 exclusive horror game reportedly safe from Microsoft's cuts. As a reminder, 919 00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,440 over the last week and kind of going into next week, 920 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,239 there's all kinds of rumors cuts and oncoming cuts and 921 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,079 job and jobs being lost and studios being closed. 922 00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:33,079 Speaker 3: I'll say, while we were here, might not even be 923 00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:34,199 as far as next week. 924 00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I mean, clearly stuff's already happening, 925 00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:40,079 right the Io Interactive talking about losing their contract for 926 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,119 Project Fantasy. That's happened already, and that directly affects jobs. 927 00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,800 Now that those aren't Microsoft jobs. Those are jobs created 928 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,840 by Microsoft money. And now that's that's pulled. Always an 929 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,400 undertold story is part of this, as like, as these 930 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,000 studios get get closed, those studios have contracts with contractors, 931 00:44:56,559 --> 00:45:01,119 and that's contracted companies and private contractors juels, and all 932 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:03,599 those jobs go away as well, or that money for 933 00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:05,000 those freelancers goes away. 934 00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 3: I can I can see that being a big push 935 00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:11,159 to get the worst of this done before the fourth 936 00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:14,320 of July, when this is probably going to be other 937 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,760 news stories that will be picked up by mainstream media 938 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,719 around that time. 939 00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: For July third is a day off for a lot 940 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,400 of people, right, but they don't have I mean it's Friday, yeah, yeah, 941 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,519 July second. They could just take out the trash tomorrow 942 00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:35,639 and yeah, you're right, yes, all right, so yeah, the 943 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,079 Arcane Studios double find all these in the news. People 944 00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:43,039 are wandering like, where where's the where's the line? Because 945 00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:46,159 Arcane and Blade that feels like that should be on 946 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,000 above the line. 947 00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 2: That's a big project. 948 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: They keep saying that they're focused on their heavy hitters, 949 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,119 but it's like, sounds like that one might be in trouble, insanely, 950 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,599 So where is the line? Well, does it include o 951 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,679 D from Kojuma? Sounds like it doesn't. Reportedly, it is 952 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,679 safe from the expected huge cuts at Microsoft's gaming division. 953 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,440 That's according to IgM, which claims the project will survive 954 00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:12,519 Xbox's planned business reset, which has so far already seen 955 00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:15,239 it drop a planned fantasy RPG game from Hitman Studio 956 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,159 Io Interactive, leading to potential layoffs at that studio. Ode 957 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,039 remains in development at Kojuma Productions and will still be 958 00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,360 published by Xbox Game Studios. 959 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 2: According to sources. 960 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,039 Speaker 1: In a statement published on Tuesday, Xbox said it was 961 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,039 taking a fresh look at where we invest or. We're 962 00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:33,199 focusing on our highest priorities. We're not reducing our overall 963 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,000 investment in games. The hell you aren't. What are you 964 00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:40,400 talking about me when I'm lying, yeah, I mean, it's 965 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,719 the idea here that it's like, we'll take this money 966 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,639 we're saving from these studios and put it into Halo, 967 00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,960 because you're not gonna put all that let mean. 968 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't work that way. 969 00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 3: They'll put it into AI factory slash data centers that 970 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,239 they will put to work on making stuff for kids. 971 00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: It'll say Xbox and it'll say King on the side 972 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,679 and that'll count or whatever. That that that that is 973 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,320 their company line right now. We are not reducing our 974 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,360 overall investment in games. So they continue just like to 975 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,239 speak out of both sides of their mouth. They continue 976 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,199 to do this thing of like let's put the best 977 00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:16,920 foot forward. And I'm sure chet, I'm sure co Pilot 978 00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,800 made it sound, you know, palatable to them. When I 979 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,800 could go out there and say this and that'll satisfy 980 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,800 people because technically and so we don't. 981 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,159 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it, not. 982 00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 3: To not to pick a fight or anything. But if 983 00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:32,480 you missed it, go lead that Entertainment Weekly profile of 984 00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:37,599 Asha Shama from the week of Summer Games Fest and listen. 985 00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:41,119 I know we all got to make money, but if 986 00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:43,880 you're gonna write something like that, and you've written for 987 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,639 video game websites in the past, on your byline, had 988 00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:48,199 you call. 989 00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 4: Yourself a geek reporter, I. 990 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,159 Speaker 1: Mean even like like the sort of most cynical take 991 00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:57,000 on that of like, well, you know, you've got to 992 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,119 stand the good graces of micro No, you don't. 993 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 2: They're not gonna be here. You're going to outlast them. 994 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,079 Speaker 1: You're gonna be here longer than Microsoft and Xbox like 995 00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:09,239 doing this stuff, so you need to maintain some integrity 996 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,760 some like. 997 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 2: It was like when. 998 00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 3: Someone asked me if I was worried about upsetting perl 999 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,599 Abyss by being negative about Crimson Desert, I was like, 1000 00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:20,480 guys that released one video game in six years. 1001 00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:23,199 Speaker 2: Don't it's going to be a problem at their next game? 1002 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,639 Like whatever, Yeah, he. 1003 00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 4: Published and did their own PR. I'll be fine, uh huh. 1004 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: And the PR was weird about it, so like yeah, uh, 1005 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,400 you couldn't predict whether or not they were going to 1006 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,880 be happy with you, even if you did give them 1007 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,880 a decent score, So it doesn't matter. US bill requiring 1008 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,559 paid games to be playable after they shut down has 1009 00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:46,159 failed to pass a Senate vote, so I couldn't news. 1010 00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 2: Uh. 1011 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,639 Speaker 1: This is from Chris Scullion at VGC, A US bill 1012 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,159 designed to stop paid games from being terminated and being 1013 00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:55,880 made unplayable in the future has failed to pass a 1014 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,679 Senate vote. The Protect Our Games Act, which was proposed 1015 00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:02,679 by California assembly Men Chris Ward, was put to a 1016 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,679 vote at the California California State Assembly last month, where 1017 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,480 won a vote of forty three to sixteen. The next 1018 00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:10,440 step was to pass the bill to the state Senate, 1019 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,000 where it was debated and voted on again. Had this 1020 00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:15,320 vote passed, a final version of the bill would have 1021 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,119 then been created with House and Senate members before being 1022 00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:21,360 submitted for final approval. However, as noted on the Reddit 1023 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,280 page of Stop Killing Games, a consumer movement seeking to 1024 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,840 preserve video games after they've been taken offline to prevent 1025 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,480 them becoming unplayable, as. 1026 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 2: Was the case with the crew. 1027 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,679 Speaker 1: The bill lost the vote at the state Senate after 1028 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,960 four Democrats voted yes, three Republicans voted no, and the 1029 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,440 rest abstained, which just seems like you shouldn't. Why fucking 1030 00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:44,719 vote on these things? Those extensions matter, a campaign volunteer 1031 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,039 wrote on Reddit and a committee of committee vote, excuse me. 1032 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,880 An abstention is not neutral. It has the same practical 1033 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,639 effect as a no. Because the bill only advances if 1034 00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:56,840 it gets a majority of yes votes. Not enough yes's 1035 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,360 means the bill stops here for this session. That is 1036 00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,119 the law US. The volunteer also claimed that the campaign 1037 00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:05,480 had attempted to pass the bill without any funding or lobbying, stating, 1038 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,119 this was our first attempt in our first year in 1039 00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:11,519 the United States, with a US budget of zero dollars, 1040 00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:14,440 no paid staff in California, no war chest, no in 1041 00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:17,480 person lobbying operation. The timeline was so compressed that we 1042 00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:19,599 could not get funding in place fast enough to put 1043 00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,000 people in the building. They do say later on in 1044 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,679 the story that's going to change the plan going forward 1045 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,559 is let's up our lobbying, which is required. I pointed 1046 00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:33,719 this out on last of them, The Ten Dogs last night. 1047 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,599 Lexi It's it was a YouTube video say about taxes 1048 00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:43,800 and stuff, and it had a research study that they 1049 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,199 found of like how policy breaks down in the United 1050 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,559 States and like what gets past and what doesn't based 1051 00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:54,679 on popularity. And it's like, if something is one hundred 1052 00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:58,320 percent popular and everyone wants it, it does happen. But 1053 00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,880 if you as soon as you get to like ninety 1054 00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:02,880 percent of people wanting it, if you then just look 1055 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,840 at what the top one percent wants, well, if they 1056 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,480 want it, it passes. If they don't want it, it 1057 00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:11,639 passes maybe fifty one percent of the time. 1058 00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 2: Maybe if ninety five percent of the red. 1059 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: If everyone else wants it and they don't, fifty one 1060 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,480 percent of the time it passes, which doesn't compared to 1061 00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:22,280 one hundred percent of the time. If rich people want something, 1062 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,519 whether it's popular or not, one percent of the time 1063 00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:26,000 they get it. 1064 00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 2: Like that is what that study showed. 1065 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we don't live in a democracy, so 1066 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,360 it's like you gotta get them. 1067 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 2: You have to lobby to be fair. 1068 00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 4: Web, you are describing democracy. 1069 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, right right? 1070 00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:40,039 Speaker 1: With democracy money speech as the Supreme Court keeps reminding 1071 00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:43,079 us over and over again, which means that money is 1072 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:43,880 how we vote. 1073 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,119 Speaker 2: Now. 1074 00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 3: It is funny that like America loves to be like 1075 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,119 with a Homer democracy. I started as bitch, yeah, and 1076 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,119 then you look at like the actual democratic system that 1077 00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:57,280 you have in place, with like the Supreme Course and 1078 00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:01,559 every other Democrat exactly and every other democracy that came after, 1079 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,239 and all of them just being like, yeah, it seems 1080 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:04,960 like it could be abused. 1081 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 4: Let's not do that. 1082 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 3: Let's let's not settle country up in such a way 1083 00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:12,480 that nine people can decide basically everything. 1084 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,079 Speaker 1: We didn't for that for senators for like the first 1085 00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:19,519 like several decades of this country, they were selected by 1086 00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:23,880 state representatives. So it's like like it was always meant 1087 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,519 to protect the property like that from the beginning. That's 1088 00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:30,400 how this stuff was. It was We've always been in oligarchy. 1089 00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:34,519 That's the secret, all right. So that's what that video 1090 00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:36,840 is About's about oligarchy. It's from a guy used to 1091 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,559 be Mormon. I can't remember his name. He does great 1092 00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:41,239 sort of motion graphics videos and stuff like that. You 1093 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,519 can probably find if you just search oligarchy on YouTube. 1094 00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:48,480 The funny thing happened at this thing before we move on. 1095 00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:51,000 At the when they were debating this in the Senate 1096 00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:55,840 in California, there was a conversation about private servers and 1097 00:52:56,159 --> 00:53:04,079 the ESA lobbyist said that private servers are illegal, that 1098 00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:06,679 you private service or video games are illegal, like the 1099 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,880 ones for Minecraft. 1100 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 2: And that's not true. That's flat out, flat out not true. 1101 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,519 Speaker 1: And the person that was sort of like trying to 1102 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,559 argue against them was like, what are we talking about? 1103 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,079 Like no, And so the essay did put out an 1104 00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:21,960 update and so you know. 1105 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 2: Correction, no double down. 1106 00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: The essays provided VGC with a statement addressing the above 1107 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,079 claim private servers infringe on the intellectual property rights of 1108 00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:34,719 game publishers. Publishers reserve the right to exercise their rights 1109 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,199 against them. The provision in California AB. Nineteen twenty one 1110 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,519 that proposed these services as a legitimate alternative to keep 1111 00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:44,119 games running raises concerns about a publisher's ability ability to 1112 00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:49,639 enforce their IP rights. Okay, two different things if you 1113 00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:52,880 want to talk about, like the private servers that like 1114 00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:55,960 keep going, keep games going, that sort of were built 1115 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,440 by the community, but there are a lot of private 1116 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480 servers that aren't that and obviously there's a great area 1117 00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:03,199 in between where where some of these things could be happening. 1118 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,519 But just to flat out claim that they are illegal. Uh, 1119 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:08,599 and that is gonna be the essay's position because they 1120 00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:13,239 want them to be. It sounds like crazy, all right, Uh, 1121 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,400 we'll see it once. Like they go into round two 1122 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,320 of these things. Lex See, they're gonna keep trying in California. 1123 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,320 They say that they're interested in trying at the federal 1124 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,000 level in the United States. 1125 00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:24,559 Speaker 2: This is something that will take years. 1126 00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:27,079 Speaker 1: Like if it feels hopeless in this moment, sure, but 1127 00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:29,119 I think I continue to say at the very least, 1128 00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:33,000 these conversations need to keep happening so that companies get 1129 00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:35,519 spooked and maybe they start just doing these things themselves, 1130 00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:38,559 the whole self regulation thing, which is not great but 1131 00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:40,039 sometimes the best we can hope for. 1132 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 2: Oh. 1133 00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:46,199 Speaker 3: I also just remembered something. Remember that Sony introduced dynamic 1134 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,119 regional pricing. 1135 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, the base pricing, Yeah, huh oh boy. And that's 1136 00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:54,599 easy to do when you're not competing with retailers. 1137 00:54:55,039 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, a fat points of comparison, Yeah, intro hmm ha hmmm. 1138 00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:03,679 Speaker 1: Man, it just finds ways to keep getting worse, all right, 1139 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,519 rocks for people are wondering exactly what that is that 1140 00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:09,320 they have prices where it's like you can go into 1141 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,199 the store and if you're logged in, you might see 1142 00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:13,039 one price, if you're logged out, you might see another. 1143 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 2: And of course the way it worked right now. 1144 00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:17,559 Speaker 1: Was I think people who were logging in were seeing 1145 00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:19,280 discounts targeted at them. 1146 00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 2: But just like Nintendo with. 1147 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 1: The hey, we're going to have a different price for 1148 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,039 physical and digital, and that means the physical the digital 1149 00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:29,679 version is going to be cheaper than the physical. 1150 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 2: It's like yeah, but also now. 1151 00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:34,559 Speaker 1: The digital or the physical can be more expensive than 1152 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:35,800 a seventy dollars digital game. 1153 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,280 Speaker 2: That's how you get back to eighty dollars. 1154 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,159 Speaker 1: The price for a targeted dynamic pricing thing could also 1155 00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:43,760 go up, and they could charge you more if they 1156 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,480 know a game is in more demand. Finally, rock Star 1157 00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:51,480 accused of ignoring pay inequity, mandating crunch, and weaponizing bonuses. 1158 00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:53,920 This is from Chris Kurt at Game Developer. This is 1159 00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:56,920 a read worth keeping up with, especially as Grand Theft 1160 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,719 Auto news keeps pumping out. This keeps up with that 1161 00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:04,639 crew of people who were fired allegedly for trying to 1162 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,800 form a union at Rockstar. 1163 00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 2: Rockstar claims claims. 1164 00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 1: They alleged that they were fired for sharing privileged information 1165 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,440 that they did not have permission to share their evidence 1166 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,599 for that. In my opinion, based on what we've seen 1167 00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:22,719 so far and some great reporting from people make games, 1168 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,519 that seems like a lie. That's just what it seems 1169 00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:30,599 like to me. So following up on all of that, 1170 00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:33,480 the people who are part of that of trying to 1171 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,159 grow that union, who were fired in the union itself 1172 00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:39,719 are coming up with a laundry list of other reasons 1173 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,400 that Rockstar was a troublesome place to work, including pay, 1174 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,880 inequity between gender, as well as weaponizing bonuses. 1175 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,639 Speaker 2: This idea of like most of the pay of. 1176 00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 1: What you should expect comes from these bonuses, where that 1177 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,320 means that you kind of have to be a good 1178 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,679 little pet to the person who decides what your bonus 1179 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,199 is and you are afraid to speak out against them, 1180 00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:08,159 and that sounds awful to me. That sounds terrible, you know, 1181 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,840 you know, it kind of sounds a little bit like 1182 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,920 how Valve works as well. 1183 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 2: I think Valve is primarily bonus based, where. 1184 00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: It's like that's how people decide what project they're going 1185 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,079 to work on, can it get me the biggest bonus? 1186 00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, you. 1187 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: Don't really think about how that could be really toxic, 1188 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,199 but of course it could be. They have a bunch 1189 00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:25,599 of other stuff, obviously mandating crunch where they have a 1190 00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:28,440 thing in the contract when you go to work at 1191 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,960 Rockstar a Lexi where it's like, hey, here's a checkbox 1192 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,960 you can check. We'll put it here, make it easy 1193 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,480 for you to waive your rights against like the laws 1194 00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:39,960 here in the country where we work. That's say you 1195 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,280 can't as an employer ask an employee to work more 1196 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,679 than ten extra hours a week. It's like, go ahead 1197 00:57:44,679 --> 00:57:46,599 and wave that now as you're signing up here, and 1198 00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:49,079 we'll just go ahead and get you on that crunch. 1199 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 4: All this ste well we're at it. 1200 00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:53,199 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we're at it. 1201 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,639 Speaker 1: All this stuff sounds like, Yeah, that sounds right for 1202 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,119 the Rockstar we've known for forever. And even if there 1203 00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:03,239 have been improvements to the crunch over time, I don't 1204 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,760 think anyone's like and now that is a joyful place 1205 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:06,199 to work. 1206 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, everything that you hear coming out of LOCKSA first, 1207 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,280 you hear very little specifically, which is a telltale sign. 1208 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,360 And second, when you do hear things, it's usually like, yeah, 1209 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,840 that's exactly what you'd expect. Even when the company was 1210 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,280 getting its act together, it was getting its act together 1211 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,599 in order to not have another Jason shryover Porsche. Yes, 1212 00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:34,760 not getting its acting Yeah, yeah, not getting its act 1213 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,320 together because it wanted to support its employees and be 1214 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,239 a better place to work and be you know, more 1215 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:45,079 equishable for everyone. So yeah, like none of this is surprising, 1216 00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:47,599 but I hope they keep dragging them across the calls, 1217 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,280 and I hope that this gets picked up by local media, 1218 00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:54,000 especially local British media, because that's the thing that will 1219 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,920 actually impact all of this. Is like, it's one thing 1220 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,639 for us to come about it are in the games 1221 00:59:01,679 --> 00:59:05,280 industry in different countries. But if local British media picks 1222 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,679 up on it and it becomes an issue of these 1223 00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:12,679 workers are being abused in their workplace, then then it 1224 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,440 is an actual problem for this correcting. 1225 00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: Because like Rockstar pr in relations people, Hi, uh they'll 1226 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,000 watch this and uh they'll they'll they won't love it, 1227 00:59:24,159 --> 00:59:28,159 but you're right, the leadership at at Rockstar and take 1228 00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:30,880 to begin to feel heat when it is that local 1229 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,519 media you're right, and that that that yes, that's true. 1230 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,199 All right, So let's that's the that's the news, that's 1231 00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:39,960 the headlines, that's how it's going right now. Again an 1232 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,840 industry and crisis. This is just this is where we're at. 1233 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,000 That doesn't mean we all have to despair everybody. We'll 1234 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,039 try to keep finding some fun stuff to focus on 1235 00:59:48,719 --> 00:59:51,400 while we keep also keeping keeping up with and dealing 1236 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,360 with this news as it comes out. I do think 1237 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,639 that we're gonna have some hard decisions as like groups 1238 00:59:57,639 --> 00:59:59,559 of gamers, where it's like, man, do we need to 1239 00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:02,679 keep chase seen what's next? Is the PS six something 1240 01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:04,840 we should be concerning ourselves that greatly with, And it's 1241 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,320 going to be hard not to because we're just so 1242 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,480 used to that. But game it's just gonna have to 1243 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,800 be something different going forward for the next five years 1244 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:11,280 at least. 1245 01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 2: All right, let's let's. 1246 01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:15,559 Speaker 1: Get out of these headlines. We have the poll question 1247 01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:19,079 from earlier this week. Are you excited for Splatoon Raiders? 1248 01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:21,920 When this poll went up, we had not not seen 1249 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,679 that Nintendo direct yet. Now we have thirty percent responded 1250 01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:29,760 saying yes, seventy percent said no, I'm I'm pretty into it, 1251 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,800 but also as a sort of reminding myself, it's like, 1252 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,320 oh this does we don't matter here. Kit Ellis pointed 1253 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,679 out that the sort of peak concurrent viewers for the 1254 01:00:41,679 --> 01:00:45,480 YouTube stream of that Splatoon Raiders direct in the United 1255 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,840 States hit something like fifty thousand viewers, Yes, something like 1256 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,440 fifty thousand viewers, whereas the Japanese stream had two hundred 1257 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,119 and fifty thousand viewers simultaneously. That game is just so 1258 01:00:57,159 --> 01:00:58,960 big and spanned the rest of the world doesn't matter, 1259 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,480 And I bet they're excited about it. 1260 01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:04,119 Speaker 3: I mean, the idea of we made a splus shoon 1261 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,400 what has monthster hunter style multiplayer hunts and raisin ish. 1262 01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:12,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like they know what they're doing. Targeted. Yes, yeah, it. 1263 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 3: Sounds like they will laser focused on one specific market 1264 01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:19,159 right there, and God bless them. 1265 01:01:19,239 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 4: That sounds fantastic. 1266 01:01:21,199 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Yep, we gotta love the splooners absolutely, all right, new 1267 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,239 pole question here in a second Before we do that, though, 1268 01:01:27,639 --> 01:01:29,880 LEXI tell people where they can find you on the internet, 1269 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,119 what you have going on and all of that good stuff. 1270 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find me on Blue Sky at lexlod 1271 01:01:36,639 --> 01:01:41,079 dot xyz. I am currently doing some reviews for game 1272 01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:43,199 of guides on some stuff I can't talk about. I 1273 01:01:43,199 --> 01:01:46,119 have a preview going up next week, which is one 1274 01:01:46,159 --> 01:01:50,719 of those July embargos, but I'm I'm excited to actually 1275 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,280 talk about that. I will be at Gamesclm this year, 1276 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,400 booked my first Games Calm appointments, so hopefully I'll see 1277 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,639 some folks out there and make some cool stuff happened 1278 01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:05,559 at thatsh And yeah, go support startmanu dot co dot uk. 1279 01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,960 It's a website for people trying to break into games media. 1280 01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:10,679 I think now more than ever is a really important 1281 01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:15,239 time to have people reporting on this space rigorously and 1282 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,360 ethically and thoughtfully and writing about these things and supporting 1283 01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:23,440 new voices in that space. So if you can't support us, 1284 01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:28,440 do over on Patreon dot com slash start menu. 1285 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Excellent stuff, excellent as always, just having you on here 1286 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,800 talking about games with you and everything. I appreciate that 1287 01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:37,480 new pole question. Let's see here I haven't written down 1288 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:38,599 and I went away from. 1289 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,559 Speaker 3: Also small thing before I forget trans writes. As always, 1290 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,480 shout out to the US folks. It's bad everywhere, but 1291 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,880 yesterday was particularly bad for US folks. So sending love YEP. 1292 01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court protecting us from the greatest of threats, that 1293 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,360 one girl who wanted to play sports with her friends. 1294 01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:00,559 Speaker 2: Yep, great stuff. 1295 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's see here, yes, newpool question. Do you 1296 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,079 still buy video games on physical discs? 1297 01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:08,599 Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? 1298 01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:12,079 Speaker 1: Just let's still talk about this. We'll talk about it tomorrow. 1299 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,840 Get the results, see how people are feeling about it. 1300 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,480 We'll have a Game Mess Mornings here on Giant Bomb 1301 01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:21,960 tomorrow two in the week. That does mean that that 1302 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,519 will be when we do the Bomb twelve everybody, So 1303 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,559 go ahead and get over to giant bomb dot com. 1304 01:03:26,599 --> 01:03:29,119 Scroll down, find the vote here button, submit your game 1305 01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:31,960 for the Bomb twelve. We'll wrap up the week, go 1306 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,079 into the holiday weekend. I'll be on vacation, but Games 1307 01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:37,719 Mornings will return on Monday. 1308 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,119 Speaker 2: Mike Minatti will be in this seat. I appreciate it. 1309 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 4: How Mornings has returned, Well, it. 1310 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,119 Speaker 2: Has returned absolutely. 1311 01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 1: But with all that out of the way, let's see 1312 01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:50,960 what else is happening on Giant Bomb. In about thirty minutes, 1313 01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:53,920 we're gonna be sitting down with Abby Russell and we're 1314 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,920 gonna be talking about handheld emulation devices, Chinese handhelds. 1315 01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,719 Speaker 2: Everybody, it's the future. They're also getting expensive, so what 1316 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,039 the hell. 1317 01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: But I've got I've got three kind of in different 1318 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,840 tears that we're going to talk about, and Dan's bringing 1319 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,880 some Uh, we're bringing our Sean, who can kind of 1320 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:15,079 speak to the technical aspects better than anybody. Letting Sean, well, 1321 01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:18,639 let's letting him out. It's just strong. But we're gonna 1322 01:04:18,679 --> 01:04:19,679 sort of like Leasha. 1323 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,559 Speaker 2: And then walk around the exactly. Yeah, yeah, dah, I 1324 01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:25,440 let it get some sunshine. Absolutely. 1325 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 1: Uh, So tune in for that. I'm looking forward to it. 1326 01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:29,880 It's just gonna be a hangout. We're gonna be talking 1327 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,360 about these things, showing up kind of just show and tell. 1328 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:33,159 Speaker 2: Uh. 1329 01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: And then it's Wednesday, so there is a blight club 1330 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,199 and Dan's done and Mike went before him, so obviously 1331 01:04:39,239 --> 01:04:43,159 it's my turn. No Jacob Geller with a super blight 1332 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,360 Jumper Griffin's story as we're calling a jumper gellers story. 1333 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 2: Uh, that will be happening. 1334 01:04:50,239 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 4: I am so so excited for this. 1335 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to see if you can beat the 1336 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,239 whole thing today because it's under four hours. 1337 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,559 Speaker 2: But no promises, no promises. 1338 01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:00,599 Speaker 1: It will just be an extra long blow which is 1339 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,119 great timing on that because I really could use every 1340 01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:05,280 minute I could to get ready for my trip, but whatever, 1341 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,000 this is more important. So when I come back from 1342 01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:09,159 my vacation, I'll have to deal with Blake Club at 1343 01:05:09,159 --> 01:05:09,519 that point. 1344 01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Wonderful. 1345 01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 1: It has been since August since I played a real 1346 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,360 Blake Club game, and even that was Trespasser, Lexi, which 1347 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:17,440 I kind of like. 1348 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 4: It has almost been a year. 1349 01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:24,719 Speaker 2: It's almost been a year, which is crazy. All right, 1350 01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:27,480 my time's come. I get it. This is going to 1351 01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:28,480 be bad. I'm worried. 1352 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: I got to go get CDI up and running or 1353 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,199 something great. Uh, all right, let's see with all that 1354 01:05:35,239 --> 01:05:36,639 out of the way, LEXI, thank you so much for 1355 01:05:36,719 --> 01:05:38,639 hanging out with me today and talking about video games. 1356 01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:39,719 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. 1357 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,599 Speaker 3: Oh, it's always so nice to revel in the in 1358 01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:46,320 the lovely news and you know, talk about how chippa 1359 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,199 we are and you know this is this is why 1360 01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:50,559 people think that we're depressed. 1361 01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:55,199 Speaker 1: Thank you all for watching and listening despite the obvious 1362 01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:56,320 depression on your screen. 1363 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,719 Speaker 2: We'll catch you next time. Until then, have a good one, 1364 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:03,239 take care of yourself. Good Bye, Boding Bom do bo 1365 01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:03,719 bo