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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Raised by Giant's discussion. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>writer Lee. Welcome any moderators and should members out there.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're watching on YouTuber Acts, or if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the show. All of my social media links

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<v Speaker 1>I finally just decided to rock the Charlie Kirk Road

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<v Speaker 1>microphone personal audio and it's free. It feels good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a microphone directly in front of my face.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do all kinds of movements. I got so

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<v Speaker 1>much more room for activities here and now. So hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>this works out and I can continue to use this

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<v Speaker 1>as my audio source. And hopefully Masad did not plant

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of bomb inside of this thing that will

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<v Speaker 1>kill me. I'm just joking. I've had this for like

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<v Speaker 1>three years. I don't think there's any bombs inside of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, hopefully this works out and it sounds good

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys like it. But my documentary Psychic Agent

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<v Speaker 1>The Gate Program has been completed and has been submitted

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<v Speaker 1>to the streaming platforms. Check the description for the official

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<v Speaker 1>Psychic Agent the Gate Program YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram. Subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>and follow those pages for a teaser trailer that will

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<v Speaker 1>be released in the coming weeks. I'm fully expecting a

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<v Speaker 1>release sometime at the beginning of June on Amazon Prime

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<v Speaker 1>and Apple TV. I'm also going through a company to

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<v Speaker 1>get DVDs made of Psychic Agent The Gate Program, so

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<v Speaker 1>you guys will have lots of options to see the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't like Amazon, if you don't like Apple TV,

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<v Speaker 1>or you just like physical media, You'll get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a physical copy of the movie from me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always good to have a physical copy of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also going to look into getting DVDs made of

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<v Speaker 1>jfkaxent O' clockwork Chining as well, so there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to look forward to coming up. Also looking to get

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<v Speaker 1>posters made for the movie. So we got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going on here in the coming weeks in the coming months.

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<v Speaker 1>But today we have with us a very special guest.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a retired commercial and contract pilot who long

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<v Speaker 1>asserted that he worked for the US Military Intelligence CIA

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<v Speaker 1>connected operations over several decades according to his own testimony,

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<v Speaker 1>he enlisted in specialized military operations at Fort Bliss, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty four, where he was associated with the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth Army Intelligence Units into the early nineteen sixties. Here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk with us today, William plumb Lee, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, thanks for having me. I appreciate being on

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<v Speaker 2>your program.

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<v Speaker 1>No problem. We got a lot going on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've kind of been looking at this thing on

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<v Speaker 1>Uh it's kind of random, but uh, finding Hitler. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever watched a documentary on the History Channel?

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<v Speaker 2>Just bits and paces. I know, every time I start

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<v Speaker 2>try to watch something like that, that something comes up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get bit here, and then about six months later

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<v Speaker 2>I getting another bit and so but what you have

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<v Speaker 2>in mind on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, like the whole thing is like it's

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<v Speaker 1>so weird. Like there, I didn't I knew that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of things with Hitler surviving in the

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<v Speaker 1>bunker and all of that, and you know, getting out alive,

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<v Speaker 1>and but I didn't realize that the body that the

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<v Speaker 1>autopsy was done on was of a thirty five year

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<v Speaker 1>old woman.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like anything even back then, conspiracies you can take

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<v Speaker 2>an ant and use a magnifying glass and make a

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy out of it. Far as Hitler did this. Who

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<v Speaker 2>killed a b Lincoln? Were they really killed in the barn?

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<v Speaker 2>Or were they killed in a haylof? Or were they killed?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they drowned crossing the stream? Did they get shot?

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<v Speaker 2>Did clingon get shot from a helicopter? Did see what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting at? Sometimes my major event, even like the FK,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll breed thousands of thousands of rumors, which if it

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<v Speaker 2>gets enough pushed and enough publicity, those rumors become factual

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<v Speaker 2>for some people, and that opens up debates and it

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<v Speaker 2>actually takes away from the real facts behind the incident.

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<v Speaker 2>Law enforcement deals with that all the time, of having

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<v Speaker 2>to go through with thousands and thousands of leads just

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<v Speaker 2>to get to one nugget of truth that may break

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<v Speaker 2>the case. So personally myself, my background, I've learned to

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<v Speaker 2>stay away or at least try to stay away from

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<v Speaker 2>getting involved in conspiracy type related things, even though I'm

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<v Speaker 2>writ in the middle of one with this book and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I try to stay away from politics. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got background very diversified in military special operations, cover activities,

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<v Speaker 2>which are all connected with politics, can get sucked into

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff, which is actually, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>a diversion that takes you away from the real nitty

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<v Speaker 2>gritty of the problem. And in some cases that's by design.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, on a letterhead memo, all you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>do is take a blank agency letterhead memo and you

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<v Speaker 2>can write anything on that memo you want to write,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can assimilate that memo out through proper channel,

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<v Speaker 2>or not proper channels, but through channels, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>pick it up and they pass it to another, and

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<v Speaker 2>they pass it to another simply because on a letterhead memo,

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<v Speaker 2>then it becomes the truth, and that is the official verdict.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's going on, has gone on with the JFK.

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<v Speaker 2>That's also what's gone on back in a paper clip

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<v Speaker 2>time back in Nazis. We brought some of that technology

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<v Speaker 2>over from Nazi after the war. We adopted some of

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<v Speaker 2>those psychological warfare programs that the Nazis used. We set

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<v Speaker 2>up a program and next said North Carolina, where we

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<v Speaker 2>thought we could breed super soldiers. They could walk through walls,

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<v Speaker 2>they could stay up for twenty four hours straight. They

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<v Speaker 2>were invincible. So this is a form of mind control

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<v Speaker 2>back in those days. If you can control all the

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<v Speaker 2>communication that goes out to the media, you actually can

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<v Speaker 2>control the thinking and the actions of the people. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a program that was used in psychological warfare.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know the name of that program where they

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<v Speaker 1>were using psychics in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's three or four of them. One of them,

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<v Speaker 2>which was based with drugg was MK Ultra, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the spring off of MK Ultra was MK Delta, which

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<v Speaker 2>was much more deadlier than MK Ultra. Illusionary warfare training

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<v Speaker 2>actually at North Carolina, that was the name of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was known as the defector program where students were

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<v Speaker 2>divided up. They had language studies. Some of the students

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<v Speaker 2>were trained to go as defect in the foreign countries

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that they would be picked up by their intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>and they've become double agents, and then we would infiltrate

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<v Speaker 2>into their programs and we would put false information. We

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<v Speaker 2>did that in Cuba, well, Bautista, we did it after

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<v Speaker 2>Castro came into power. So the technique that CIA uses

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<v Speaker 2>put the narrative, change the narrative. If a particular operation

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<v Speaker 2>is being exposed by one of your operatives or by

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<v Speaker 2>a double agent. Then you've got to change that narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to change the direction that it's going. So

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<v Speaker 2>the way you do that is you get an official document,

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<v Speaker 2>an official person, or to get someone that is well

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<v Speaker 2>known and has a following and they adopt that procedure

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<v Speaker 2>or you, Brien watched them through sublimin I sent through

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<v Speaker 2>psychological warfare and they work for you. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm I don't be rattling there to eat up

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<v Speaker 2>all the time on this, but no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really important. I just know that there's there were

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<v Speaker 1>several psychics by programs. They went under different names. There

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<v Speaker 1>was the you know, the one that was made public

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety five, well declassified in there are early two thousands,

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<v Speaker 1>but made public in ninety five after the CIA shut

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<v Speaker 1>it down, which was a Stargate project, but it went

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<v Speaker 1>under many different names. I'm currently making the documentary that's

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<v Speaker 1>all about this. But I had heard that there were

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<v Speaker 1>other programs that used psychics in like combat, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>training psychics to combat.

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<v Speaker 2>That now is a perfect example. I'll give you example.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if currently two things in World War two,

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<v Speaker 2>we use guys out of prison to train them for

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<v Speaker 2>special operations. Unconventionable or unconventional warfare was what it was

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<v Speaker 2>called then. To work behind end of the lines, the

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<v Speaker 2>infield trade, go behind enemy lines, how you infild trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it was very unorthodox, you know. Uh. For instance,

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<v Speaker 2>coming up into the Vietnam era, we had a movie

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<v Speaker 2>was made out of this, The Men who Stared at

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<v Speaker 2>Goats was a super warrior that allegedly the concept was

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<v Speaker 2>they could walk through doors. The program that we used

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<v Speaker 2>to use at Next Edge, we're talking about psychological programs

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<v Speaker 2>and this in the book Deep Cover Salle Grays. We

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<v Speaker 2>covered some of this multiple stuff in the book Deep Cover.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll sort of lost my thought there for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the things that Nag said used to

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<v Speaker 2>do with we would sit and they put a glass

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<v Speaker 2>a sugar cube right there on that corner and balance

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<v Speaker 2>it on a glass. And we would sit back, nine

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<v Speaker 2>of us and we would stare at that spoon for

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<v Speaker 2>five ten minutes and thinking I'm gonna make it drop

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<v Speaker 2>in that water. I'm gonna make that super cube drop

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<v Speaker 2>in that water. Sit there, just I mean boring, but

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<v Speaker 2>sit there and that was a total concentration. Our mind

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<v Speaker 2>was focused on breaking that thing in there, so mind control.

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<v Speaker 2>So we then all of a sudden one day by Gully,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there staring, thinking doing it, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. That sugar cube fell right off into that water.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, man, I got the secret. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>mind control. It's not hypnosis. I mean I sit and

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<v Speaker 2>saw it, and I made that thing fall. The third

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<v Speaker 2>time that I saw that, I happened to catch my

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<v Speaker 2>instructor just gently bumped up table leg just enough to

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<v Speaker 2>make that balance fall in the water. So that's manipulation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the program. Control the communications, manipulate the narrative and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get results from someone that you want. The other

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<v Speaker 2>example for illusionary warfare, we got through well drunk one

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<v Speaker 2>time at one time, many times, but anyway, one time

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<v Speaker 2>and Knaight said, and this guy was sitting next to us,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, you know, they give me ten ten

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to walk down the beach, and when I saw

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<v Speaker 2>reflection from a mirror and a light, I was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to turn left and walk the other way. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there, oneer, what is he trying? What is he

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<v Speaker 2>telling us. Well, we were up on the second floor

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<v Speaker 2>watching this guy walk down the beach, and they told

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<v Speaker 2>us concentrate and make that guy turn to his left. Concentrate.

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<v Speaker 2>He's coming towards you. You want him to turn to

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<v Speaker 2>your left. Concentrate. Concentrate, He's gonna turn to your left. Bye, Golly.

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<v Speaker 2>After a while, you know what happened That man turned

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<v Speaker 2>to his left. We thought we had psychic ability. What

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<v Speaker 2>was happening. The guy upstairs had a mirror and he

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<v Speaker 2>was shining at the guy walking along the beach. When

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<v Speaker 2>the guy saw the reflection of the mirror turned left. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that was our psychic ability. Does that explain anything to you?

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely explains what that they're trying to make you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that you have psychic ability. By the I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe the psychic ability exists. Oh, I do believe that

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<v Speaker 1>it is possible to remove you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sublimination. They used it with the back in the thirties

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<v Speaker 2>and the forties when the first come on sublimination as uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a ways to make people buy product by sublimination

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<v Speaker 2>in their mind, a form of hypnosis. Well, you can

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<v Speaker 2>make a person think something simply. It's the way that

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<v Speaker 2>you present, present your your narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And you'll be walking along the aisle and you'll say

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<v Speaker 2>Lux video or Lux soap, and you'll see po maolive.

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason, you pick up the paw malive soap.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know why. But then if you really look around,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they've run a tremendous broadcast the thirty forty commercials

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<v Speaker 2>pal malive soap, Lux theater. They used to have all

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<v Speaker 2>that back in the thirties and the forties. How they

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<v Speaker 2>do They used to come on at three point thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>They used to have a thing seven days a week

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<v Speaker 2>we open to eleven from the seven to eleven. From

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<v Speaker 2>seven to eleven, we got ice, drinks, milk, cheese, meat, fish, bread, cheese, soup,

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<v Speaker 2>and nuts. That's why we say shop seven eleven. In

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<v Speaker 2>commercial like this. I know I'm rambling around here and

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<v Speaker 2>you're eating up your time, but you're talking about psychological program. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when TV come on? And how did DUTY come on

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<v Speaker 2>at three point thirty? Then the first thing Southern Ice

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<v Speaker 2>have it handy. When you shop seven eleven, you go

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<v Speaker 2>and have seven eleven shore nine sences out of ten,

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<v Speaker 1>You've been programmed to subliminally into whenever you have the

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<v Speaker 1>all opportunity to go and you see that thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you're more likely to pick that thing that you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred times.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And then when you put that in psychological warfare,

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<v Speaker 2>you can actually blow up a tank by moving the

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<v Speaker 2>it's used properly. So I mean, I'm trying to answer

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<v Speaker 2>your question about, Yes, how you use your mind determines

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Musicians, trick, sight of hand all this. You

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<v Speaker 2>see something, you react to it, and you can't explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a code behind it. If you know the codes,

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<v Speaker 2>you can explain it. If you don't know the codes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's magic. Anyway, I'm gonna get off on all this

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<v Speaker 2>for eating up all your time. I know, you guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys on radio TV always short on time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>short on money and short on time.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems to be the problem a lot here.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on the commercials out there? Man? You got

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<v Speaker 2>to make some money.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people don't like that though. They don't like people

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<v Speaker 1>making money off of doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't they don't understand it, you know. I mean, hella,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not making any money off this. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's unless you want to loan me some or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. You know, check. I'll tell you back.

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<v Speaker 1>Putting that I owe you on that, bad boy. So

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to your military service and your ci

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<v Speaker 1>A career, I am under the impression that there has

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<v Speaker 1>been this uh this black budget c I a group

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<v Speaker 1>that has been running around for a really really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you're from you're with the Danny Castelero case. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you familiar with Danny Castelero the Octopus murders?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, that And even before I go back a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, I'll go back down. I'll run away from

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<v Speaker 2>the home. When I was fourteen years old, would go

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<v Speaker 2>to school. My mom knew all the truant officers by

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<v Speaker 2>their first name, and so I forged a birth certificate

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<v Speaker 2>and I went going to Texas forty ninth Army Division.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about black budgets. So anyway, I learned how

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<v Speaker 2>to drive a Sherman tank at fifteen and then I

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<v Speaker 2>used that to go into the Army at sixteen seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>regular Army and station in Fort Bliss. Then I got

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<v Speaker 2>involved in a special type program that was trained to

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<v Speaker 2>take young guys. And this was before Green Beret, this

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<v Speaker 2>was before Special Forces. We still had the Rangers because

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<v Speaker 2>that was the old Rangers from World War Two. The

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<v Speaker 2>old loss Boys were our catricks are drill instructures, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we were taught a lot of things about black ops,

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<v Speaker 2>secret movements, how to take over a village, how to

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<v Speaker 2>fight dirty, how to protect the operation at all costs.

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<v Speaker 2>So all these things that you're bringing up that they've

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<v Speaker 2>over years written about, they were started back in World

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<v Speaker 2>War Two. Modified put back into the field, used through

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<v Speaker 2>Korea in the fifties, coming off into these little brush wars,

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<v Speaker 2>modified tweaked around, put back out in the field. So

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about, yes, they exist so black ops.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the years, some of the guys come out and

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<v Speaker 2>they write books about what they did. People like you,

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<v Speaker 2>me and others they pick up the books and say, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't know this was going on. So yes, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been going on since before World War Two. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what. Who developed those programs with the Nazis? We

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<v Speaker 2>developed through op raation paper Clip brought those guys over

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<v Speaker 2>to teach us how to fight dirty. The Loof Waffer

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<v Speaker 2>was a perfect example. These guys used to fly these

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<v Speaker 2>Loof whaffers and deal forty eighth street hours up popping pills.

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<v Speaker 2>We adopted the same thing in the fifties with F

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<v Speaker 2>eighty six Saber jets had a lot of mid air

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<v Speaker 2>collisions in those days if you look at the record.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point was, we were programming our military to

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<v Speaker 2>think they had supernatural powers, and we were popping them pills.

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<v Speaker 2>We were giving them a later LSD's, We started programs

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<v Speaker 2>like MK Ultra. We started to try to probe the

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<v Speaker 2>mind to see how far we could develop the mind

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<v Speaker 2>to do a bunch of crazy things. We thought we

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<v Speaker 2>had the power. Like I was a strainer to you earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>We were trained to believe as a man believed this,

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<v Speaker 2>so he becomes as the Bible says, So they adopt

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<v Speaker 2>that program. Well, if I can make you believe you're infallible,

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<v Speaker 2>that you can run and charge that machine gun nesk,

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<v Speaker 2>and that all the bullets are not gonna hit you.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, the Indians used to have that with the

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<v Speaker 2>Apaches were very good. That was one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>that patches were so good because they believed in the

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<v Speaker 2>spirit what they would be protect Put on all the

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<v Speaker 2>whole armor. Put on your spiritual armor and you won't

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<v Speaker 2>get hurt. If you really believe that you have charge

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<v Speaker 2>that cavalry and you will be supernatural anyway, enough of

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<v Speaker 2>that and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Would probably succeed, because it's an important part of it

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<v Speaker 1>is belief.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, same guy guy running with football with the five

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<v Speaker 2>guys chasing, if he believes he can get buy him,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna get buy him. He's gonna be a good star.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna gonna get a couple of million dollars because

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<v Speaker 2>they want to pick him up. Because he's good. He

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<v Speaker 2>knows how to get past the past, the defense. He

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<v Speaker 2>knows how to get the job done. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>only reason you can get the job done is because

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<v Speaker 2>he believes he can do it. So if you can

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<v Speaker 2>make a person believe that they can do it, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a hell of an army there.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever do any training at Fort Watchuka?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of them? Yeah, just yeah, yeah. What kind

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<v Speaker 2>of training are you making reference to? Recently? Drawn trainings

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<v Speaker 2>have been going on there. We've been developing drawns our

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<v Speaker 2>psychological warfare programs in the earlier days, hated out of

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<v Speaker 2>Fort with Chuka. It's now the one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>electronic drawne facilities there is that is Seek Air Force

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<v Speaker 2>Base out by Los Angeles. We actually flying drawnes out

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<v Speaker 2>of bases there that we're flying them over in Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 2>through satellite. So there's yeah, there's a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>goes on forth with Chika. Why why did you bring

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<v Speaker 2>up for with Chikam.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious because to me, it seems like that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people that are that have been

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<v Speaker 1>for Watchuka were ever stationed there for Watchuka, were never

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<v Speaker 1>officially at for Watchuka, you know what I mean. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's very top secret military installation that nobody really

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<v Speaker 1>wants to that's.

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<v Speaker 2>A military training base for the MPs for one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also the headquarters for electronics, it's a communications center.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very hush hush. There's a lot of experimental stuff

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<v Speaker 2>goes on there you don't know about. It's it's not

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<v Speaker 2>an easy base to get on and dolf of you're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well monitored. But uh, there's all kinds of conspiracies

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<v Speaker 2>that originated out of Fort with Chuck in Cheek Air

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<v Speaker 2>Force Base and Fort Blais and Bragg and by the

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<v Speaker 2>old Ford ord. H You know, I I don't get

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<v Speaker 2>involved in chasing those rabbits. That's where they go. You

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<v Speaker 2>can sit here, and that's design purposely to make you

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<v Speaker 2>go chase a thousand rabbits, go into a thousand rabbit holes,

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<v Speaker 2>and you missed the big rabbit hole. What's really going on? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy over here, his name's Jake. He knows the

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<v Speaker 2>hip bombs connected to the tie bone, that thigh bone

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<v Speaker 2>is connected to the leg bone, that leg bones connected

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<v Speaker 2>to the knee bone. Ezekiels out there. Do you know

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<v Speaker 2>who really set up the assassination of JFK. Moses? Moses

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<v Speaker 2>did it? Now, let me tell you a story about

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<v Speaker 2>what I just said. I told that to a guy

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<v Speaker 2>there was a very heavy conspiracy nut. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this went through the whole thing. And I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know who did it? Moses. You know what comes back

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<v Speaker 2>to me as factual that plumbly said the most said,

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<v Speaker 2>Israel killed Kennedy. You get my drift here, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>the hip bones connected the lake bone. You can trace

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<v Speaker 2>your leanage all the way back to Moses and the

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<v Speaker 2>twelve tribes of Israel. And then suddenly I said Moses

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<v Speaker 2>killed Kennedy, that the Israelites were responsible for Kenny's death.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see how things get twisted. There's a little

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<v Speaker 2>story that kids used to do. Whisper in this kid's here,

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<v Speaker 2>that kid wud whispered what you said in the next

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<v Speaker 2>kid's here, Then the next kid had whispered what that said.

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<v Speaker 2>Then at the end of the result, you don't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not anywhere near the original starting of the program.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what we have with conspiracies.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's the game of telephone SI.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So anyway, I don't know if I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>rattling around here, you know, I'm not everybody else. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Me. I think that you do know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, uh, you know a lot of people look

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<v Speaker 1>at you know, counterintelligence people or black ops people as

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<v Speaker 1>people that you can't trust or that they're not telling

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. And I think that there is suspicion on

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<v Speaker 1>one hand, But on the other hand, they got to

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<v Speaker 1>be careful with what they say, right Like, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to read in between the lines of

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<v Speaker 1>what they're talking about. That's the way that you get

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<v Speaker 1>the real information.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, in military intelligence Pentagon, you got to be very

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<v Speaker 2>careful because you're always walking up the minefield, the third rail.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to say all the minefield, you got to stay

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<v Speaker 2>away from the third rail. That's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're in black operations and you're doing COVID work,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, you're working with the type of people that's

418
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<v Speaker 2>pretty hardcore. I'll give you an example. One of the

419
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<v Speaker 2>crews that I work with, we're like the Dirty Dozen.

420
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:25.559
<v Speaker 2>They'd kill you in a heartbeat just to watch you squirm.

421
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.119
<v Speaker 2>That's the psychological program that some of these people have.

422
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Really sick people. We breed lone wolves. Now let me

423
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<v Speaker 2>explain what I mean by that. Today our society, we

424
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<v Speaker 2>as a society breed loan wolves. We breed lone wolves

425
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>by what comes out of our mouth. Our leadership breeds

426
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.599
<v Speaker 2>the lone wolves that are doing the shooting coming out

427
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:57.759
<v Speaker 2>of fort which you could coming out of wherever, coming

428
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>out wherever, the long guy out here, the two young

429
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:03.799
<v Speaker 2>kids that just did their little deal. Whether it be

430
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 2>lone wolves or what, we breed them. You know how

431
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>we breed them by the rhetorics that comes out of

432
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 2>our mouth, our elders, and our leader's mouth. If you

433
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>breed hate and poison, you're gonna get hate and poison back.

434
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you throw out there is like a boomerang, it's

435
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna come back at you. So we're gonna have more assassins.

436
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have more nuts running around out here. And

437
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.839
<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. Most of these loan assassins and these

438
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 2>lone wolves, they want to identify with something. They have

439
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 2>to have identity. If they find a leadership that they

440
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>can identify with, they will do anything that they think

441
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.119
<v Speaker 2>that that leadership wants them to do. They become like

442
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 2>a secret army, a secret army of lone wolves that

443
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>will out assassinations and they don't even know their program

444
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>to do it. And that comes from leadership, that comes

445
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>from what we say. I'm going to blow your ass away.

446
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make a red glow in the eastern sunset.

447
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to set off bombs. I'm going to make

448
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 2>you walk on the third rail. I hate you. There

449
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>was a time when we used to could sit down

450
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.599
<v Speaker 2>with our neighbors and we could negotiate, and we could

451
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:32.160
<v Speaker 2>solve our problems. Today we just pull out a gun

452
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and blow them away. Be done with it. Look, God

453
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 2>sort them out. I'm making sense to you.

454
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>It almost seems like it's wrapping back around to the

455
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Old West days. And I mean it's kind of how

456
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>things were back in those days. If you had a

457
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 1>disagreement in an argument with someone, you just whip out

458
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:54.119
<v Speaker 1>your gun and you have a duel.

459
00:29:54.599 --> 00:30:02.799
<v Speaker 2>My gun's bigger than yours. If you can't have fun

460
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>with yourself, who you're going to have fun with?

461
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 1>That's right. I'm under the impression that there are more

462
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 1>militaries than the ones that we know about the public militaries.

463
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<v Speaker 1>I'm convinced that there are more three letter organizations than

464
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<v Speaker 1>the ones that we know about. Can you confirm or

465
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<v Speaker 1>deny if there are more intelligence communities and the ones

466
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<v Speaker 1>that are front facing in or there are more militaries

467
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>in operation within the United States government than the sixth

468
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<v Speaker 1>that we know about.

469
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>That we're familiar with evil breeds evil. That's where we're

470
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<v Speaker 2>at right now. We're in a war of good and evil.

471
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 2>That's simple, is that. So you talk about groups out there,

472
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.519
<v Speaker 2>groups will find their own just like oil and water,

473
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.279
<v Speaker 2>you can't mix all in water. Groups will find their

474
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:05.599
<v Speaker 2>own level. Lone wolves will find other lone wolves, and

475
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 2>they've become an organization. Like you're asking about, are they

476
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 2>out there? Sure, some of them aren't organized, but yet

477
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>they are. It's like the Karate, it's the same but different.

478
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>They're there, but they haven't got together yet. But then

479
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, with new and medias all like that,

480
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.359
<v Speaker 2>they get together and then they become an inagin to themselves.

481
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:32.519
<v Speaker 2>They don't even know what the hell they're doing and

482
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Speaker 2>why they're doing it, but they are doing it. But

483
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 2>they're evil. So their little pockets all over this country,

484
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>little lone wolves bouncing around, not knowing what they're doing,

485
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 2>but doing evil. We're in a war between good and evil,

486
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and my opinion, this country is in the middle of

487
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>a coup a political coup maybe, but we're in a war,

488
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 2>a political coup. We're in a war or coup of

489
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:05.720
<v Speaker 2>good and evil. Our young people they don't know up

490
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 2>from down, but yet they're the ones that's going to

491
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>save this country. And I don't. I'm not going to

492
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>get on the soapbox there and I'm not going to

493
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:17.599
<v Speaker 2>get into politics. But you asked me, are the group? Yes,

494
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 2>there's many, many groups out there, whether they're organized with

495
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 2>a name or not. It's always like this. Who is

496
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the anonymous They they're the Latter Trilaterric Commission, They're the

497
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 2>New War Order, They're this, They're that, they're the ABC. There,

498
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 2>there's you've got to put a name on evil, you

499
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 2>see what means? But everything like that is evil. That's

500
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 2>the spirit, and that spirit comes in and absorbs individuals.

501
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:53.839
<v Speaker 2>Comes from our teaching. All right, what our elders teach.

502
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Go back to the Kamanche, go back to the Sioux,

503
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 2>go back to the Indians. What did they teach? There

504
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 2>used to be a thing that the braves would go

505
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.839
<v Speaker 2>out on a mountaintop and went to the time of

506
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the little eaves, when the moons and the suns were

507
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>all aligned in order and they'd go out to this

508
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>sacred place called Tanasha, and they had to sit there

509
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 2>for three days and three nights, and if their heart

510
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.759
<v Speaker 2>was not right with the ancient ones, then they could

511
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>not be accepted into the tribe, and they were cast out.

512
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>What that meant was, you go out and the caliotes

513
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't howl, the birds didn't fly, and the moon rose

514
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 2>and the hawks were quiet, and the stars were all

515
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 2>in alignment, and you had to sit there and wait

516
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:52.279
<v Speaker 2>for the instructions of the ancient ones to come and

517
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:56.559
<v Speaker 2>give you wisdom and knowledge. And if you made it

518
00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:00.400
<v Speaker 2>for three days and three nights without being scared to

519
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 2>death as a drum brave at twelve seasons, then you'll

520
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>accepted the end of the tribe. You'll become a warrior.

521
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense to you. So there's a purification ritual.

522
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 2>We now have lost our way. We don't have the patronism,

523
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't have a lot of things. Anyway, I'm getting

524
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting off here. Bring me back to reality.

525
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, how were they effectively able to cover up your

526
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 1>your ci a service, because from my understanding, there's not

527
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>really any crud.

528
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:46.639
<v Speaker 2>You worked for the age all Well, I've testified the

529
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 2>five committees. The best way to explain this when you

530
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.320
<v Speaker 2>say there is an old record. There is a record,

531
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>for instance, fuel receipts of aircraft that we've fuel up.

532
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 2>But let me put it this way. I'm going to

533
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:11.559
<v Speaker 2>give you a blank document. It's just a letterhead memo

534
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 2>United States Federal Government FBI. You write on that thing

535
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to write about yourself, about me, or

536
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>about someone else. Then you give it to your colleague,

537
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.519
<v Speaker 2>and then you let him give it to someone else,

538
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and then they give it to someone else, and then

539
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.119
<v Speaker 2>after a while, what's oever on that letterhead memo? That's

540
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 2>the official verdict. So when you come up to something

541
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 2>like the Warrant Commission and you want to blame one

542
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 2>guy for doing all that, all you've got to do

543
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.119
<v Speaker 2>is just put enough of it onto a letterhead memo.

544
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Forget the documentation, just write your own narrative and assimilate

545
00:35:55.519 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 2>that narrative through many, many different channels, and it becomes fact.

546
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Am I explaining anything to you? That's what's happened in

547
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>my case and many of us, of the eighty five guys,

548
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 2>starting with Private UGMB Denson, who come out with the

549
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>information that launched the Pentagon team to go in to

550
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:22.360
<v Speaker 2>abort the assassination at JFK. That's exactly what happened to him.

551
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.599
<v Speaker 2>He was a cryptologist. He put it two and two

552
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 2>together through leaks on recruiting recruit assassins in foreign countries

553
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>to carry out an operation in Dallas, Texas, and he

554
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 2>went and tried to report it. Well, whoever he reported

555
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 2>it to wrote all kinds of stuff on the letter head, memoirs,

556
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 2>sent it out to the point that they put him

557
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 2>in a damn lock up because they thought he was nuts.

558
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 2>But Kennedy got killed two days after he had made

559
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:56.840
<v Speaker 2>his report. So anybody can hear looking at me or

560
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.159
<v Speaker 2>wherever can go and check this out. Probably you BEJ

561
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Dinkin made a report. Can you just going to be

562
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>hitting Dallas, Texas? On November twenty eighth. My Goss, the

563
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 2>guy's psychic. No. He took enough codes magic, put it

564
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 2>together and found out what was happening is that we,

565
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 2>our own government was recruiting assassins to take out foreign leaders,

566
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.960
<v Speaker 2>not just JFKAY. We had a program knowing to take

567
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>out foreign leaders Tilio Batista or Bens, the people that

568
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>did not agree with our policies at that time. Take

569
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.840
<v Speaker 2>him out. We couldn't go ahead and go and kill him,

570
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.559
<v Speaker 2>get someone else to kill them while they have a

571
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.559
<v Speaker 2>bad accident, or they die of old age, or lit't

572
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 2>do a one step further. Let's go technical. Let's do

573
00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>a heart attack gun. That way, you can shoot him

574
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>with a little heart attack gun. They have a heart

575
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.320
<v Speaker 2>attack and they die. Church committee covered that up, not

576
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>covered it up, uncovered it. We had a heart attack gun.

577
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.719
<v Speaker 2>We went into foreign countries and took people out, told

578
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the assassination of foreign leaders. This Church committee started investigating that.

579
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.679
<v Speaker 2>They found out Victor Marchetti found out all about the

580
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>school of illusionary warfare psychops. Sydney Gottlaud run the mk

581
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Ultra program that drove Frank Olson nuts through LSD before

582
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the hippie movement in San Francisco. So when you talk

583
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:42.880
<v Speaker 2>about this kind of stuff, you got to go back

584
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:47.719
<v Speaker 2>to the history. You gotta know where it starts, you

585
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 2>gotta know why it started. And it all comes back

586
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 2>to control. If I can control your mind, I can

587
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.719
<v Speaker 2>control what you do. I can make you do things

588
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 2>that you wouldn't normally do. I can make you shoot

589
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:06.119
<v Speaker 2>your mother. If I wanted to. There was an old

590
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.559
<v Speaker 2>saying one time we were sitting around talking a bunch

591
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 2>of old guys from the USUS and he said, hell,

592
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll kill you mother. You give me a dollar and

593
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.639
<v Speaker 2>a half. I'll shoot your mother and i'll give you change.

594
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:20.280
<v Speaker 2>The other guy says, well, would you shoot your mother?

595
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>And he says, well, if you give me enough money

596
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:27.760
<v Speaker 2>and i'll get Oh yeah, he said if shooter hardcore teaching?

597
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Where did that come from? That the man would believe

598
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>that the mission was more important than his loved ones,

599
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 2>that he'd take him out. That has to come from

600
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 2>psychological warfare. It has to be programmed. Today we're programming

601
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 2>lone wolves to go out not even knowing what the

602
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 2>hell they're doing, and take out certain people. And you

603
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 2>disguise that. But maybe you've got one guy you want

604
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 2>to take out, you take out five around him to

605
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>make it look like that way. Anyway, so much, but

606
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:13.480
<v Speaker 2>let's go back the book deep cover. Clar Grays is breadcrumbs,

607
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the touches on everything we're talking about. You know, follow me,

608
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 2>you have you haven't read the book. You haven't seen

609
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the book. So the operations that you brought up, some

610
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 2>of them are covered in that book. Now they're not

611
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:34.599
<v Speaker 2>just covered with allegations, they're covered with documentations leading you

612
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:38.760
<v Speaker 2>where to go, so that you can prove to yourself

613
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:43.119
<v Speaker 2>what really happened, rather than what's on the letter head

614
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and memo.

615
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:47.559
<v Speaker 1>U. So whenever, whenever you would go on one of

616
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>these black ops missions, would you be briefed on exactly

617
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:53.679
<v Speaker 1>what it was that you were supposed to be doing.

618
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Not all the time I was a copolot was I

619
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.280
<v Speaker 2>was a young guy twenty years old running gone into

620
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Cuba steven National Guard armory stuff I was talking about

621
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 2>fifty six fifty seven. I was a National Guarden. We

622
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 2>had keys to get into that. Not me, but I

623
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 2>was a pilot. We had keys to get into National

624
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Guard armies and we would take the weapons and stuff

625
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and bload them on our air cleft, fly them down

626
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 2>the Marathon Key off pau Plum Island into Center into

627
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 2>the sierrah Madri to a little guy who we call

628
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Castor Oil for the l Castro in nineteen fifty six.

629
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 2>We supplied him with guns. And at the same time,

630
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 2>our foreign policy was set up to the Pan American Treaty.

631
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Because of a sovereign government. We had to supply guns, tanks,

632
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 2>and airplanes to Bautista. So Batista is using arc planes,

633
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 2>guns and aircraft to take out a little old rebel.

634
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Have had fifty six guys that just shot up a

635
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 2>bunch of barricks. We're using our weapons to take him out. Well,

636
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 2>we have a go overt operation of CIA, like me

637
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:06.199
<v Speaker 2>as a Coppolat flying plane loads of weapons to a

638
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>little rebel in the Sera Madra mountains. Now, what does

639
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.320
<v Speaker 2>that look like to you? We are supplying both sides.

640
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 2>We get involved in a conflict, we escalate that conflict,

641
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and we furnish weapons to both sides of that conflict.

642
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, why would we do that money money

643
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 2>in those weapons? What about that money in those weapons? Well, okay,

644
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you three percent of the weapons that

645
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I put on my airplane. I'm putting five hundred thousand

646
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 2>dollars weapons on my airplane. You're running for office, you

647
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 2>need campaign contributions, right, Well, you set it up to

648
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.599
<v Speaker 2>where I can get more airplanes from Davis Mouth and

649
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Air Force Base surplus, so I can put in my

650
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:56.760
<v Speaker 2>operation and I'll run some cocaine, and I'll run some guns,

651
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.079
<v Speaker 2>and I'll give you a percentage to go into your

652
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 2>campaign constribution so you can keep your position. Let me

653
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 2>go one step further. We used to run politicians out

654
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>of Miami to go down to Havana on gambling junkets

655
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 2>for the weekend. Wow, Havana was wide open prostitution, drugs,

656
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and gambling. Our politicians weekend get free passes. Tied in

657
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 2>with mafia, organized crime. Same time as running out of

658
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas. Same thing with bugs, dice evil, same people

659
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:42.280
<v Speaker 2>running organizations organized crime out of Havana. Our politicians, Buddy, buddy, buddy.

660
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>We fly them down there and aircraft cut out companies

661
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and they party for the weekend. Now here's something I'm

662
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 2>going to tell you that you might not like. But

663
00:43:56.440 --> 00:44:03.800
<v Speaker 2>just all things acting up. Some of these girls fourteen fifteen,

664
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:08.159
<v Speaker 2>sixteen seventeen were homeless orphans on the street in Havana.

665
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>They would tie in with these guys. So then we

666
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.639
<v Speaker 2>found out that they were transporting some of these little

667
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.280
<v Speaker 2>girls back on our airplanes to go to a place

668
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>called the Quorm Club in New Jersey, and that club

669
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:33.280
<v Speaker 2>run a prostitution ring of young girls from Havana that

670
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 2>our politicians brought back on our airplanes. My Paul at

671
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Roja said, I'm gonna start asking for IDs that these

672
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:45.840
<v Speaker 2>girls have to be over twenty son. Now, wait a minute,

673
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:46.880
<v Speaker 2>what does that sound like?

674
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like Epstein?

675
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Check it out. Quorm Club. Bobby Baker served nineteen months

676
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 2>for running girls on a whorehouse a half block away

677
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 2>from the Corn Club. How did the Corn Club get

678
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:12.639
<v Speaker 2>their liquor from airplanes flying Mathusalem run from Havana, supplied

679
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:16.519
<v Speaker 2>by the Mafia organized crime, put on our aircraft and

680
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:19.039
<v Speaker 2>brought back to the to the play. Okay, anyway, I'm

681
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 2>getting off here. But what what? What year was nineteen

682
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:28.519
<v Speaker 2>fifty six, eight fifty nine, sixty sixty one, all the

683
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 2>way up to Kennedy. Kennedy knew about it. There was

684
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.360
<v Speaker 2>a German Uh well, we just have your listeners. Go

685
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 2>check it out Corn Club, Bobby Baker. You'll find out

686
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>they had German ladies, prostitutes getting information from our elected officials.

687
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Because it was known as the Gentleman's Club. It wasn't

688
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 2>just where you walk in. You had to be a member.

689
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:59.800
<v Speaker 2>You had to be sponsored by somebody. Okay, what did

690
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I just say here? I said, there's a special club

691
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.079
<v Speaker 2>that was set up in the fifties and the sixties

692
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:09.400
<v Speaker 2>by our politicians out of Washington, d C. They would

693
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.199
<v Speaker 2>go down to Havana, pick up little women, bring them back,

694
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.079
<v Speaker 2>farm them out at the Corn Club, bring liquor and

695
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 2>stuff back to supply the liquor. And you had to

696
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 2>have a reference or a sponsor to get in to

697
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 2>be a member of the Gentleman's Club, which had a whorehouse.

698
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 2>And they stalked the whorehouse. I'm sorry about using the language,

699
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>but they stalked it with litt with underage women. Now, okay,

700
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 2>where did you hear that at? You heard it from

701
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Tosh Plumley, a legs CIA opportunity, A guy that doesn't

702
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:48.760
<v Speaker 2>know crap about shit from Shinola Okay, a guy that's

703
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>waiting on us, sitting on the air own elephant's ass,

704
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>waiting for a pimple to pop. That kind of stuff.

705
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:59.159
<v Speaker 2>So we're a pretty crooked people. Not the people, but

706
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>we are. Some of our elected officials were just as

707
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 2>corrupt back then as they are now. Why do you

708
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 2>think they won't release records because they will expose the

709
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.079
<v Speaker 2>sins that they've been involved with for over sixty years.

710
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, what's really interesting about this is a quorum. Club

711
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>is also known as club.

712
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, there we go to create a thousand things, and

713
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the point is that it works and has tied the

714
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:39.280
<v Speaker 2>money in drugs cocaine. Let me ask you one question.

715
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 2>If you sit right there and you looked in this

716
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 2>camera and you told the federal government you run thirty

717
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 2>tons of cocaine in this country and see one thirties

718
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 2>to military bases, what would happen to you?

719
00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm not really sure because not in the military.

720
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Are you saying that I'm if I was, I was

721
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>doing this.

722
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying you're a civilian, you're not military. But

723
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.840
<v Speaker 2>you said, and you tell somebody, you tell a federal officer,

724
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll just run thirty tons of cocaine in your country

725
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.480
<v Speaker 2>over six months period and see one thirties.

726
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Well you would expect some sort of investigation at the least.

727
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, not if it's sanctioned, right, Not if you're getting

728
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.760
<v Speaker 2>three to eight percent return money on your campaign contribution

729
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:38.519
<v Speaker 2>to cut out companies and through slush funding, set up

730
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.599
<v Speaker 2>your set up your shell corporation, do it legal, and

731
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 2>then fund it through illegal money, drugs and guns. So

732
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.519
<v Speaker 2>this isn't just good fast and furious guns to Mexico,

733
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>guns to Guatemala, meg MiGs being sold to Nicaraguay all document.

734
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 2>So that's what they don't want out in the public.

735
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 2>They don't want those. Do you realize that Nicaragua had

736
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.360
<v Speaker 2>fifteen MiGs? This was before the missile crisis. I can

737
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 2>give you a document that shows that we took Cuban

738
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>trainees to fly those MiGs in Nicaragua. We had a

739
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Cuban missile crisis at the same time we were putting

740
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:34.159
<v Speaker 2>MiGs and Nicaragua. According to the own FBI document and

741
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the CIA document recently released, Joe and Nidas Georgia. Nidas

742
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:47.480
<v Speaker 2>just recently released was a PsiOps operatives out of JM Wave.

743
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:53.000
<v Speaker 2>But for sixty years, the CIA and the FBI city

744
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:58.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't exist. That the operatives that mentioned his name is

745
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:03.840
<v Speaker 2>code names. They fabricated his story. Have your listeners go

746
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 2>back and check what happened in the last three months

747
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.880
<v Speaker 2>when the CI actually admitted they didn't give him a

748
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:14.360
<v Speaker 2>medal and they filtered him into the House Select Committee

749
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 2>on the Assassination to clean up anything that would take

750
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 2>away from the lone Gunman. Also, Jev, your audience, check

751
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 2>this out. Jagar Hoover sent a directive to the Dallas

752
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Police Department, and I mean to the Dallas Police Department

753
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:35.679
<v Speaker 2>and the essay Sacks of Dallas FBI to destroy all

754
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the records pertaining to Lee Harvey Oswald. One of the

755
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 2>records was Lee wrote a letter please leave my wife alone.

756
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:49.000
<v Speaker 2>They were threatened to retaliate Marina back with her daughter

757
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 2>to Russia if she didn't admit that Lee's shot. Kennedy bingo.

758
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Now you hear that from Plumbley. My name's Robert Toosh Plumbley.

759
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm a bser. I'll just give you a whole bunch

760
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 2>of crap. Go check it out. That's your spirit. Testify

761
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 2>to your spirit if I'm telling the truth or not.

762
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:14.320
<v Speaker 2>My point is this, we don't check things out. Whatever

763
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:18.400
<v Speaker 2>the federal government tells us, whatever our leadership tells us,

764
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.239
<v Speaker 2>we accept it at face value, and we don't hold

765
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.840
<v Speaker 2>them accountable when they're wrong and when they lie to us,

766
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 2>we don't hold them accountable.

767
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's changing right now, though. I think people

768
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 1>are really wising out to what's going on. I think

769
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that that is definitely changing. I want to go back.

770
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to go back really quickly. To this. Uh

771
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 1>this what did you call it? This club? The quorum club?

772
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>How long did this going operation? Is it still going on?

773
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 2>These kind of things. Look, if it's a moneymaker and

774
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:56.199
<v Speaker 2>it's successful, yes it will go on, but it will

775
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:58.320
<v Speaker 2>change in a mile grade. Just like I told you,

776
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.960
<v Speaker 2>it's an operation. Put it on the shell for a while,

777
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.480
<v Speaker 2>let it cool off. Then when the circumstances didn't take

778
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.079
<v Speaker 2>it off shelf, dust it, tweak it, put it back

779
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.800
<v Speaker 2>out in the field. It works. It works because it

780
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:14.079
<v Speaker 2>brings money into your coffer. How long did it go on?

781
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Check out Bobby Baker back in there. I mean, now,

782
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.119
<v Speaker 2>with the Internet, you don't have to wait thirty days

783
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.280
<v Speaker 2>to get a reply. Just run it through Bobby Baker,

784
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Quorn club. There's your answer. Now we got this AI.

785
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:36.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like any tool. If you use it right, it's good.

786
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.559
<v Speaker 2>If you use that tool wrong, you're gonna get hurt.

787
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:43.679
<v Speaker 2>And see what I'm getting that same way with the internet.

788
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Internet is great if you use the tool right, but

789
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:51.800
<v Speaker 2>if you use it wrong, you're gonna get in trouble.

790
00:52:53.559 --> 00:53:00.199
<v Speaker 2>If you use electric tool wrong, you kill yourself. To

791
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:03.679
<v Speaker 2>use the Internet wrong, you can kill yourself if you

792
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.960
<v Speaker 2>use AI wrong. You can kill yourself or kill other people.

793
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.480
<v Speaker 2>We're at a crazy age right now. Anyway, enough of

794
00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Plumber's book whatever.

795
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:18.599
<v Speaker 1>So if you weren't always aware of these, like what

796
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you were supposed to be doing on these black ops missions. Uh,

797
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:26.519
<v Speaker 1>how did you know that?

798
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:32.599
<v Speaker 2>That was fast? Real fast? I know you got you

799
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:34.239
<v Speaker 2>got that. I'm gonna get I'm gonna go in. How

800
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 2>did I get in Dallas? How did I see the

801
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:41.519
<v Speaker 2>man's head blown off? Was I operational? Here's the story,

802
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:47.360
<v Speaker 2>real fast. I was a copolot on a flight that

803
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 2>was originated out of the Pentagon to take a team

804
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.679
<v Speaker 2>to Dallas. I didn't know who what the hell they

805
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.280
<v Speaker 2>were doing. I had two friends that was in Cuba

806
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 2>with me. One of them was third Joe, and have

807
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Sergio goped me out of the swamps. I've got my

808
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.079
<v Speaker 2>code name Sapata Velma Esplin and we later married. Role

809
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Castro big story. A lot of stories here, but that's

810
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:13.800
<v Speaker 2>my leanings. That's where I come from, nineteen fifty six,

811
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 2>running around after a plane crash in Cuba, trying to

812
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:20.159
<v Speaker 2>get the hell out of there, and then Sergio with

813
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Velma comes up and they get me out of the swamps.

814
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 2>And I lost my shoe, and they said Sapata. That's

815
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 2>how I got a code name Sapata. But no a

816
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Boucher oil company or bushel, all and all the crap,

817
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:36.360
<v Speaker 2>simple as that I was running around. So I go

818
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.639
<v Speaker 2>back to the rebel camp and then Paddel Castro gives

819
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:42.000
<v Speaker 2>me a hat and gives me a cup of coffee

820
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and give me a shoe shoes. I had one shoe.

821
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I lost one shoe. Velma Esplin later known the code

822
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:54.239
<v Speaker 2>names twenty six seven. Her name was code named Debra.

823
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I said a Mexican hut. I'm not a Mexican hut,

824
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:00.320
<v Speaker 2>but a hut on the jungle. And watch her wrapped

825
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:04.920
<v Speaker 2>dynamite with the duct tape and set fuses. She was

826
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.599
<v Speaker 2>my friend to the day. She died in two o six.

827
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:11.760
<v Speaker 2>She headed up the women's movement in Havana. She married

828
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Roll Castro. They had a bunch of kids. Good lady,

829
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:18.920
<v Speaker 2>fine lady. Ralph Kestrol is ninety four years old. We

830
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 2>just arrested him for murderer of the brothers. I used

831
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:26.440
<v Speaker 2>to fly those pamphlets in there. We used to drop

832
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 2>pamphlets not over Havana, outside Havanah. We never violated their

833
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:36.400
<v Speaker 2>airspace or their sovereignery of the land. We flew nine

834
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:40.880
<v Speaker 2>thousand feet and pushed pamphlets into the trade winds to

835
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:46.039
<v Speaker 2>blow over Havana. That's the story. This brothers shot down

836
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.280
<v Speaker 2>a MiG shot down two brothers to Skymaster airplanes because

837
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:55.119
<v Speaker 2>the markings had bled through. Anyway, it's another story there, and.

838
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:59.639
<v Speaker 1>That that's their original counterintelligence operation. Right. You would fly

839
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:03.719
<v Speaker 1>these pamphlets over other countries that I haven't missing disinformation

840
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>on them, correct.

841
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.079
<v Speaker 2>And we would take photographs of the area and would

842
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:11.400
<v Speaker 2>use that drop deal. So that was propaganda. Like I

843
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:13.719
<v Speaker 2>said earlier, the first thing you do, you could capture

844
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the radio stations you put out their own propaganda those pamphlets.

845
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Germans did this in World War Two. We did it

846
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 2>with Cuba, we did it with Batista, we did it

847
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:32.079
<v Speaker 2>with Castro. So but the point was Castro said that

848
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:35.920
<v Speaker 2>we were flying over Havana. We never flew over Havana.

849
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Castro said that they wanted to put out a twelve

850
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 2>mile limit, and it was a three mile limit. International

851
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 2>did not accept twelve mile limit. The brothers went into

852
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:50.880
<v Speaker 2>a mile four mile limit. There were six miles outside

853
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:54.639
<v Speaker 2>of Cuba. Two Megs come out and chased them, chased

854
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:58.599
<v Speaker 2>them thirteen miles offshore and shot them down, kill them.

855
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:02.760
<v Speaker 2>That's the story breaking right down the paper we just got.

856
00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:07.440
<v Speaker 2>We just charged RALH. Cassel with murder on those boys

857
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.559
<v Speaker 2>that got killed. Friends. We're flying those missions. What are

858
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.960
<v Speaker 2>they flying? That's the fortilla. Those people were coming out

859
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.280
<v Speaker 2>trying to escape Cuba and they were drowning in the

860
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:24.199
<v Speaker 2>Florida Straits and their brothers rescue was dropping rafts and

861
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 2>food and water to those people when they got chased

862
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:33.039
<v Speaker 2>by Meg. The MiG pilot later thought it was a

863
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:36.679
<v Speaker 2>raid because the markings of the Skymasters as that got

864
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:41.440
<v Speaker 2>from Miranda Airpark, they hadn't completely painted them, and they

865
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:44.559
<v Speaker 2>bled through and you could still see the star and

866
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 2>it looked like an official US Air Force airplane according

867
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to the big pilot, and he fired on it because

868
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.960
<v Speaker 2>it was in Cuban airspace. The MiG pilot recognized twelve

869
00:57:54.960 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 2>mile limit, the international recognized three mile limit. Skuymaster was

870
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:07.119
<v Speaker 2>six miles. Now there's your story. This is current. So

871
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.840
<v Speaker 2>now we arrest this guy from murder. I was shooting

872
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:14.639
<v Speaker 2>down that goes two planes. The first one was shot

873
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:16.960
<v Speaker 2>down and an hour later the second was shot down.

874
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:19.840
<v Speaker 2>The second one was shot down five miles further close

875
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:26.039
<v Speaker 2>to to Key West. You know how we know that

876
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:28.400
<v Speaker 2>because of the Key West balloon it was flying that

877
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 2>took the pictures. See, we don't know that yet. They

878
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:34.559
<v Speaker 2>haven't released that. They will in a few days. But

879
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the pictures tell the tale. But the information that came

880
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 2>out of Cuba was that we flew over Havana, we

881
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>violated their airspace, we went beyond their twelve mile limit,

882
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:56.960
<v Speaker 2>and we dropped pamphlets over Havana. It's not true. Planes

883
00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:02.480
<v Speaker 2>never even got in inland. They were shot down before

884
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:07.159
<v Speaker 2>they got there. So now, well that happened in nineteen

885
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:13.679
<v Speaker 2>ninety six. So now after all these years, we filed

886
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:19.760
<v Speaker 2>charges on Role Castro for murder. Am I talking out

887
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:20.440
<v Speaker 2>of school here?

888
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:23.039
<v Speaker 1>No? That makes sense.

889
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:29.800
<v Speaker 2>It's true, this is current, this is happening today. So

890
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Cuba tells the international committees that we violated their airspace

891
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:42.400
<v Speaker 2>and we were over Havana bombing their refineries, which is true.

892
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.360
<v Speaker 2>We had some mercenaries that did that. Frank Sturgey's was

893
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:48.639
<v Speaker 2>a good friend of mine. I flew with Frank Surgers

894
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:57.199
<v Speaker 2>over inside Cuba. Anyway, I'm getting off base here. I'm

895
00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.880
<v Speaker 2>getting into areas that I'm not supposed to get into.

896
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:05.880
<v Speaker 1>No, you're you're completely right. I mean, here's the Washington

897
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Post article right here. I'll bring it up on the

898
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:17.400
<v Speaker 1>screen so one can see here. Well, it wants me

899
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to pay, wants me to pay to view the article,

900
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:21.480
<v Speaker 1>of course it does.

901
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:29.760
<v Speaker 2>The one is this, we have to we have to

902
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 2>start paying attention. We have to start doing something besides

903
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:38.519
<v Speaker 2>sitting there, uh, getting these rabbit holes. I've made a statement.

904
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I shouldn't say it. I don't know if I

905
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 2>can say it on your air or not, but it's

906
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:46.159
<v Speaker 2>about rabbit holes. And I made the statement that we

907
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:50.039
<v Speaker 2>have our heads so deep in rabbit holes that the

908
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:54.519
<v Speaker 2>only thing showing is our ah. Does that make sense

909
01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:59.280
<v Speaker 2>to you? Our hole? Okay? Good, you said it. So

910
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:03.440
<v Speaker 2>all whether which we are led to go jump in

911
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:06.719
<v Speaker 2>these rabbit holes put our heads so damn deep in

912
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:09.920
<v Speaker 2>these rabbit holes that the only thing showing is our asshole.

913
01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Now you know what I'm what I mean by that,

914
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 2>we get wrapped up and what's in the bottom of

915
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:20.039
<v Speaker 2>that rabbit hole, and we miss the who dug a

916
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:20.639
<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole?

917
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>That's because nobody knows what to do. Tash like there's

918
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:29.239
<v Speaker 1>we can't believe in the political institutions anymore. We both

919
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:31.320
<v Speaker 1>we know that both sides are just that scrubs.

920
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:36.079
<v Speaker 2>So what can we do as American people? We could

921
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 2>do what we used to do. Look what we did

922
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:42.840
<v Speaker 2>in World War Two. I mean, I tell the story

923
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and is the time. I don't know how much time

924
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:47.519
<v Speaker 2>we got, but I'll tell the story. When I was

925
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:52.719
<v Speaker 2>a kid six seven years old, nineteen forty five, Roosevelt died.

926
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I remember the school. Every morning we used to gather

927
01:01:56.599 --> 01:01:59.679
<v Speaker 2>around in a circle around the flagpole and we put

928
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:01.840
<v Speaker 2>our hand over our heart and we would pread the

929
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:04.760
<v Speaker 2>allegiance to the flag as we slowly raised the flag

930
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:08.519
<v Speaker 2>up the flag pole. Roosevelt died, and my dad was

931
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:12.400
<v Speaker 2>crying and taking me to school, and everybody had they

932
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 2>raising the flag, and everybody stopped on the road and

933
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:18.280
<v Speaker 2>got out of their car and put their hand over

934
01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:23.480
<v Speaker 2>their heart as the American flag was being raised. If

935
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you did that today, somebody shoots you. There was another

936
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:31.079
<v Speaker 2>incident in Honand Park, Pharmasay on Knox Street and Travis

937
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:35.199
<v Speaker 2>in Dallas, Texas, and that's where all the servicemen in

938
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.559
<v Speaker 2>world War two used to bring their pictures of their

939
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:40.320
<v Speaker 2>ships and airplanes and they would sign them and they

940
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:43.039
<v Speaker 2>stuck them on the wall, and the wall was full

941
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:46.840
<v Speaker 2>of be seventeens and ships. And I mean the patron

942
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:49.159
<v Speaker 2>has loved with They loved their ship. That was their home.

943
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.440
<v Speaker 2>They loved their airplane that was their home. They loved

944
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:59.400
<v Speaker 2>their service, that was them. Anyway, one time, there's what

945
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:03.400
<v Speaker 2>they call a for effort. He didn't serve. He couldn't

946
01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:07.119
<v Speaker 2>He had bone spurs, so he couldn't be in the service.

947
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:12.000
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, he dropped the American flag on the floor

948
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:16.519
<v Speaker 2>at Holland Park Pharmacy and a marine has just come

949
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.000
<v Speaker 2>back from Saipan literally beat the hell out of that

950
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:24.199
<v Speaker 2>guy for dropping the American flag on the floor, for

951
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:29.400
<v Speaker 2>showing disrespect to the flag. Now maybe that's a little extreme,

952
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:33.960
<v Speaker 2>but the guys laying there pretty bloody because the marine

953
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:38.079
<v Speaker 2>kicked his button because he showed disrespect for the American flag.

954
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Now look what we got today.

955
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got people that can freely burn the flag

956
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:53.199
<v Speaker 1>and not have any repercussions or nobody really says anything

957
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:56.920
<v Speaker 1>or about to Nye's for a long time. I mean,

958
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that's desoralization. Process that is that the United States have

959
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:03.840
<v Speaker 1>has gone through.

960
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you ask what we can do?

961
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 1>You're a buzzman off in the KGB defactor talking about

962
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:14.360
<v Speaker 1>how you completely subvert an entire country. And that's the

963
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:18.880
<v Speaker 1>way you do it. You demoralize them, you you know,

964
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:23.920
<v Speaker 1>take them. You know it's it's uh forced up planning.

965
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:26.360
<v Speaker 1>There's like a whole there's a whole plan to this,

966
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:29.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's been a plan for a really long time.

967
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Like everything has been said.

968
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Let me say that this way. If you don't have

969
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:38.159
<v Speaker 2>respect for yourself, how can you have respect for this country?

970
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 2>You understand what I'm saying here? Where are we now?

971
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 2>We don't respect ourselves, we don't respect our brothers, we

972
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:54.559
<v Speaker 2>don't respect our society. We won't stand up for what

973
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:58.920
<v Speaker 2>we believe because we have no belief anyway. So now see,

974
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting into areas here that I say I don't

975
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:03.840
<v Speaker 2>want to get into. But turist and truth. What do

976
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:08.119
<v Speaker 2>we do? We have to get back to making our

977
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:14.719
<v Speaker 2>brothers accountable for what they do. We're being look, apathy

978
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:20.719
<v Speaker 2>has destroyed this country. That's where it's at. Apathy. We

979
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:27.159
<v Speaker 2>are desensitized and that's a program We're desensitized to accept

980
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:30.800
<v Speaker 2>what is happening. When a man blows another man away,

981
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:34.679
<v Speaker 2>or a woman or whatever on the street, that's perfectly okay.

982
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:39.519
<v Speaker 2>There was times when when there was a shooting in

983
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:43.719
<v Speaker 2>another city one hundred miles away, it made major news.

984
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Now we have shooting a half block away and it

985
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:56.079
<v Speaker 2>doesn't FaZe anybody. It's acceptable. We're desensitized. Apathy has destroyed

986
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:57.400
<v Speaker 2>this country.

987
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:00.320
<v Speaker 1>But that also gets into movies, that gets into video

988
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.920
<v Speaker 1>games that come like that wraps back around this subliminal

989
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:06.400
<v Speaker 1>programming that we were talking about in the beginning of

990
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:07.559
<v Speaker 1>this show.

991
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Education. You destroy the education system, what are you going

992
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:21.800
<v Speaker 2>to get You destroy the education system through whatever if

993
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:24.199
<v Speaker 2>you don't look it up in acyculopedia and take the time.

994
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, now you don't have to do any well anyway,

995
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 2>not going to get into that. But our political structure

996
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:35.440
<v Speaker 2>has destroyed our institution because of greed and money and

997
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 2>drugs in other words, prostitution, drugs, money, guns, bingo. That's

998
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:51.480
<v Speaker 2>our society. But look what we breed assassins twelve thirteen, fourteen, sixteen,

999
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:54.800
<v Speaker 2>nineteen year old kids. I think it's perfectly all right

1000
01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:56.480
<v Speaker 2>to go out and just say, oh I don't agree

1001
01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:59.159
<v Speaker 2>with you, I'll just shoot you, or I'm not I

1002
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:01.599
<v Speaker 2>don't have anything on boards. Also, don't get me on

1003
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:03.840
<v Speaker 2>a K four seven, and I'm gonna go shoot up

1004
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:08.239
<v Speaker 2>to town. Al. I am so star for affection and

1005
01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:11.800
<v Speaker 2>not to be knowledge. I want someone to recognize me.

1006
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I want my name in the paper. So I'm gonna

1007
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:20.559
<v Speaker 2>go shoot somebody. Am I talking off base here or

1008
01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:25.559
<v Speaker 2>am I talking to facts? Well?

1009
01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that God is a part of it. I

1010
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:32.920
<v Speaker 1>think another part of it is uh, just straight up

1011
01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:36.400
<v Speaker 1>mind control. They want that type of thing to happen

1012
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:39.880
<v Speaker 1>because it is a part of this four step, four

1013
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:46.880
<v Speaker 1>pronged attack, which is demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization. So

1014
01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:50.360
<v Speaker 1>all they have to do is do a few of

1015
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:52.840
<v Speaker 1>these that are real, and then they set back, and

1016
01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:56.679
<v Speaker 1>then they have then the actual loonies.

1017
01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Go out and do it. If I want to take

1018
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:00.800
<v Speaker 2>over your country, the first thing I'm gonna do is

1019
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.880
<v Speaker 2>take over your education system. I'm gonna start out young.

1020
01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get your four, five, six year old kids,

1021
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:11.320
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna start used to We used to get

1022
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:14.719
<v Speaker 2>educateds at home. We used to have an education system

1023
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:19.800
<v Speaker 2>that worked. We used to respect each other. Anyway, I'm

1024
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:21.439
<v Speaker 2>getting off on the craziest tangent here.

1025
01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know the kids nowadays that are literally

1026
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:28.199
<v Speaker 1>beating their teachers, Like I see the videos online of

1027
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:31.079
<v Speaker 1>kids just flopping the shit out of their teachers for

1028
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:35.239
<v Speaker 1>absolutely no reason. It's starting crazy.

1029
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.880
<v Speaker 2>And again there shows no accountability, and the carry that

1030
01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:41.319
<v Speaker 2>all the way up to us adults. We don't show

1031
01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:45.600
<v Speaker 2>any accountability when these politicians lie to us, when these

1032
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:50.000
<v Speaker 2>politicians run their special ops, when these politicians bring little

1033
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:56.000
<v Speaker 2>girls back and pour them out to older people and

1034
01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:00.159
<v Speaker 2>then hide it and lie to us about it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not just talking about what's just recently happened. I'm

1036
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:08.239
<v Speaker 2>talking about going on for over sixty years. Otheris, corn

1037
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Club is not the only whorehouse run by our politicians

1038
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:16.000
<v Speaker 2>in this country. Do you want to understand why they

1039
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.159
<v Speaker 2>won't release those documents? And do you understand why they

1040
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:22.520
<v Speaker 2>won't release the doctor. Look, there's seventeen thousand documents on

1041
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:26.760
<v Speaker 2>me in the Pentagon archive files. Why won't they release them?

1042
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm challenging right now on your camera, why don't you

1043
01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:32.640
<v Speaker 2>release those? Plumbly, My name's Plumby, by the way, and

1044
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.720
<v Speaker 2>I wrote a book called deep Cover, Shehallow Grays, release

1045
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:39.279
<v Speaker 2>my damn documents. There's an executive order out there. I'm

1046
01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:42.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna put myself on point. I'm not going to point

1047
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:46.119
<v Speaker 2>to someone else over here and say release this documents. No, hell, listen,

1048
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Let's start with Plumbley. Let's start with this book, Deep

1049
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Cover Shallow Grays. Let's start with him looking into your

1050
01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:57.079
<v Speaker 2>camera and say, hey, Pentagon, release my damn files because

1051
01:09:57.079 --> 01:09:58.800
<v Speaker 2>you got an order there from the President of the

1052
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:03.319
<v Speaker 2>United States, your commander chief, release the damn files. And

1053
01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 2>then we'll find out did you really send a team

1054
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:10.239
<v Speaker 2>to Dallas to stop the killing of a president? Was

1055
01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the FBI, through Jay Hoover had prior knowledge that the

1056
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:19.079
<v Speaker 2>team was in Dallas to kill the president and they

1057
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:22.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything? Is that what those documents are all about.

1058
01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Why was it so important to character assassinate people like

1059
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Plumbley on letter head memos rather than just say he's

1060
01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:36.239
<v Speaker 2>full of crap. Don't pay any attention to him. He's

1061
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:40.520
<v Speaker 2>fabricated this whole story for sixty something years, he's testified

1062
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:44.039
<v Speaker 2>in three committees, he's written a book. It's all in

1063
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the book. Read the book, Deep Cover, Shallow Grays. It

1064
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:52.640
<v Speaker 2>was released on April to twenty first this year. It's

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01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:56.079
<v Speaker 2>doing pretty good. But I can tell he's doing pretty

1066
01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:58.159
<v Speaker 2>good by the nature of the questions are coming back,

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01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:00.399
<v Speaker 2>which you asked some of them. You're very good. You're

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01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:01.399
<v Speaker 2>you're very good at.

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01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:06.760
<v Speaker 1>What you do, you know, but thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah,

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01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I just got one more for you, and then I'm

1071
01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:13.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna let you go. So you know, back to this

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01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:18.079
<v Speaker 1>idea that you don't really know what was going on

1073
01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:20.640
<v Speaker 1>exactly because you're the pilot, right, You're not the one

1074
01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that's actually out there executing this stuff in the field.

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01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:27.079
<v Speaker 1>You're the one that's flying these people into the operation

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01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:29.279
<v Speaker 1>for them to go out and do the thing that

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01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:34.079
<v Speaker 1>you're flying them to do. How do you know that

1078
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the mission to Dallas to stop the assassination of the

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01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:44.479
<v Speaker 1>president wasn't the people that were there to do the

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01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.920
<v Speaker 1>actual assassination. So in other words, you know that you

1081
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.600
<v Speaker 1>weren't the one that was flying the people need to

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01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:52.079
<v Speaker 1>do the actual assassination.

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01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the team that we flew in, I flew in

1084
01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:01.439
<v Speaker 2>after the deal, the way they act when I got

1085
01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:04.000
<v Speaker 2>back on the plane at Redbirds and some of them

1086
01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:06.079
<v Speaker 2>were there, some of them wasn't there A couple of

1087
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:08.279
<v Speaker 2>them that was on the plane, wasn't there. But anyway,

1088
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:12.439
<v Speaker 2>we got back out there. The guys were crying. They

1089
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:14.920
<v Speaker 2>had their head they couldn't look at each other. I

1090
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:17.479
<v Speaker 2>walked through the other was I wrote about this one time.

1091
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I walked them up from the back of the C

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01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:22.479
<v Speaker 2>forty seven or the DC III, from the back to

1093
01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:26.159
<v Speaker 2>the front. And Sergio looked at me, and Sturgey's looked

1094
01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:30.159
<v Speaker 2>at me and he said, and he's got tears in

1095
01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:35.279
<v Speaker 2>his eyes, and the other words in my pilot Rojas,

1096
01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 2>he said, just get in here, buckle up. It's a

1097
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Cuban thing. And I said, lord, you know, I mean

1098
01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:48.399
<v Speaker 2>what happened. Nobody was happy whip from many many missions

1099
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:50.720
<v Speaker 2>and if they were successful, they come back slapping each

1100
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:53.600
<v Speaker 2>other on the back and laughing, and they covered it off.

1101
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:57.279
<v Speaker 2>They completed their mission. This mission was a total failure

1102
01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:01.880
<v Speaker 2>from the very beginning. This mission was an inside job,

1103
01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:07.439
<v Speaker 2>and they knew it. They were outed from day one

1104
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:12.600
<v Speaker 2>out it. They knew it. So you asked me how

1105
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.479
<v Speaker 2>I knew that there was a team. If that was

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01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:18.399
<v Speaker 2>a team that went in there to kill Kennedy. Fact,

1107
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:22.039
<v Speaker 2>here's the story. Then the book Deep Covers Hell of graves.

1108
01:13:22.079 --> 01:13:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I want one step father. I released some very sensitive

1109
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:28.720
<v Speaker 2>classified information and I was told, don't you do it

1110
01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:32.600
<v Speaker 2>because it's an ongoing investigation the FBI. And I'm looking

1111
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.960
<v Speaker 2>at your camera right now and I'm putting myself on point.

1112
01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:40.079
<v Speaker 2>FBI told me you can't do that is an ongoing investigation,

1113
01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:44.039
<v Speaker 2>it's classified. You testified in nineteen seventy six to the

1114
01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Church Committee and you told this story, and you drew

1115
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:50.079
<v Speaker 2>a map of where the triangulations shooting were, and you

1116
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:53.039
<v Speaker 2>said there was another team on the south side. You can't.

1117
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:58.359
<v Speaker 2>That's under seal, that's under a SAP program, that's under

1118
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:02.039
<v Speaker 2>a NOR four Eastern classified information. If you put that

1119
01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:07.800
<v Speaker 2>in your book, send a book now. If they did

1120
01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:11.439
<v Speaker 2>come against me, they got to do full disclosure. That

1121
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:13.720
<v Speaker 2>means they got to give my attorney every damn thing

1122
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.800
<v Speaker 2>they got on me if they filed charges for me

1123
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:23.119
<v Speaker 2>releasing that classified information. The classified information is this. After

1124
01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:27.279
<v Speaker 2>the shooting, the North team called two of the shooters

1125
01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:34.000
<v Speaker 2>going across the railroad track and Bowers Tower saw them.

1126
01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:39.199
<v Speaker 2>The man in the tower saw him, They got him,

1127
01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:41.159
<v Speaker 2>put him in a car, blew their brains out and

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01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:44.720
<v Speaker 2>buried him over by the ballpark tren as the river.

1129
01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm talking to your camera. Now I'm telling classified information.

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01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:53.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm not supposed to say, Oh, that's just conspiracy stuff.

1131
01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:58.079
<v Speaker 2>I read it on a letterhead memo, that's Plumbles's fabrication. No,

1132
01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:00.840
<v Speaker 2>it come out in the Dallas Times old years later

1133
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.319
<v Speaker 2>when they tore down the ball deal and they had

1134
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Jefferson and Katie's Street bydock, and they made the freeway

1135
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:10.199
<v Speaker 2>going through there. They dug up human bones. Do you

1136
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:13.520
<v Speaker 2>know how they covered that story? They said they were

1137
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Indian bones from an Indian barrel ground. But the tribe

1138
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:24.359
<v Speaker 2>of the Indians, which was the Comanche and the chick Chaw,

1139
01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:27.680
<v Speaker 2>said there was no barre of grounds on the Trinity River.

1140
01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:30.960
<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't bury their air there where the river flooded.

1141
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:36.000
<v Speaker 2>There was no barrel ground. So then the Dallas Times

1142
01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:41.560
<v Speaker 2>her the story was killed because it was an ongoing investigation.

1143
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:46.640
<v Speaker 2>To this day, that's been sixty something years ago, nineteen

1144
01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:51.840
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven. The stories in the book deep Cover. Celigras

1145
01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:53.479
<v Speaker 2>don't have time here. I know you've got to go.

1146
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:58.279
<v Speaker 2>But the stories in the book. Now, someone says, well,

1147
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:00.920
<v Speaker 2>by gosh, this guy's got a hell of imagination. He

1148
01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:05.560
<v Speaker 2>really fabricates. Oh, just check it out. We've Ralph Fazzulu

1149
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:10.039
<v Speaker 2>is my co writer. We did nothing but put bread

1150
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:13.319
<v Speaker 2>crumbs out for my readers and our readers to follow,

1151
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:18.680
<v Speaker 2>bread crumbs leading to the documentation of the letterhead memos

1152
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:23.039
<v Speaker 2>to substantiate what we said. What I said in closed

1153
01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:26.760
<v Speaker 2>door session and open door session to the Senator Church

1154
01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Committee and Senator Carers Committee and Senator Heart Gary Hart.

1155
01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:35.760
<v Speaker 2>So it's on record. It's not something that this guy

1156
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:41.199
<v Speaker 2>pulled out the sky and wrote about. No. I joined

1157
01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:43.159
<v Speaker 2>the army and when I was fourteen years old, I

1158
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:46.840
<v Speaker 2>got DD two fourteens. I'm one hundred percent disabled veteran.

1159
01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, hundred percent disabled veteran. I mean, this guy,

1160
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:59.439
<v Speaker 2>he's a bullshitter. See what I'm getting at now, then

1161
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:00.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll do They.

1162
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Love to discredit people. I mean, that's.

1163
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:08.479
<v Speaker 2>In this case if they come out the Pentagon on

1164
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:12.079
<v Speaker 2>those files I just requested to be released, and it

1165
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:17.319
<v Speaker 2>shows that the Pentagon contacted the CIA, and the CIA

1166
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:21.119
<v Speaker 2>acted as logistical support and took a pilot, a co

1167
01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:24.640
<v Speaker 2>polot twenty something years old flying with a Roe host,

1168
01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:28.640
<v Speaker 2>a Cuban pilot that flew for Arigona Air Cargo and

1169
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:32.760
<v Speaker 2>plumbing flew for Riddle Airlines and Interstate Mountain Avis, which

1170
01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:38.159
<v Speaker 2>later determined through hearings of the CIA front companies went

1171
01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:44.039
<v Speaker 2>in with CIA logistical support to stop the assassination of

1172
01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:47.960
<v Speaker 2>a president from intelligence that they received from a private

1173
01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Chincing dencon in France. Dincin later was put in a

1174
01:17:54.840 --> 01:18:01.520
<v Speaker 2>mental ward discredited. Everybody that was associated as one form

1175
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:06.760
<v Speaker 2>or another through j Edgar Hoover was discredited on letterhead

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01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:12.520
<v Speaker 2>memos written by special agents of the FBI. I'll say

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01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:17.279
<v Speaker 2>it again, special agents of the FBI with through the

1178
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:23.520
<v Speaker 2>directions of j Edgar Hoover, doctored letterhead memois to change

1179
01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:28.119
<v Speaker 2>the narrative before it went to the Warren Commission. Information

1180
01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.760
<v Speaker 2>about the board team coming out of the Pentagon with

1181
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:36.000
<v Speaker 2>CIA logistical support was not in those letterhead memos and

1182
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:38.399
<v Speaker 2>was not sent to the House Select Committee on the

1183
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:45.720
<v Speaker 2>assassination through Senator Congressman Downing and Senator Schwiker didn't reach

1184
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the who withheld it. The Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department

1185
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:55.359
<v Speaker 2>of Justice withheld information to the Warren Commission about what

1186
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:58.479
<v Speaker 2>I just told you. Now at this late date can

1187
01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:01.359
<v Speaker 2>you prove that. Well, Okay, let me back up here

1188
01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:03.960
<v Speaker 2>real fast, since I'm gonna get my butt in trouble

1189
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:10.239
<v Speaker 2>here already have Joe notis joan Notice didn't exist. According

1190
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:13.439
<v Speaker 2>to the letter head memos, Joannais was a pig one

1191
01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:17.760
<v Speaker 2>of Plumbley's and others imagination. There was no Jenaiis that

1192
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:24.079
<v Speaker 2>was in charge of psychops. According to CIA. Just recently,

1193
01:19:24.359 --> 01:19:27.640
<v Speaker 2>one of the investigations just got the CIA came out.

1194
01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Readers check it. CIA remit they lied there. Joe Nanadis

1195
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:40.960
<v Speaker 2>was a high ranking psyops, had worked at Naxhead, North Carolina,

1196
01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Illusionary Warfare, worked with Lee Harvey Oswald just came out.

1197
01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:52.119
<v Speaker 2>FBI doesn't want that information out because what they did,

1198
01:19:52.119 --> 01:19:56.159
<v Speaker 2>they withheld it. They can't afford to release those documents

1199
01:19:56.840 --> 01:20:01.560
<v Speaker 2>because what would happen if it was through their own

1200
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:07.199
<v Speaker 2>documentation that is sealed court sealed with an SAP program

1201
01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:10.520
<v Speaker 2>with no far all over it. If they released it,

1202
01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:15.079
<v Speaker 2>what would happen? They withheld information from the warrant Commission.

1203
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:20.960
<v Speaker 2>J Ed Hoover doctored the files. Jeff Hoover notified the

1204
01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:27.479
<v Speaker 2>Dallas FBI to destroy all Lee Harvey al'swall files, destroy

1205
01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the letter that Lee wrote complaining about them harassing his wife,

1206
01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:39.000
<v Speaker 2>threatening to deport her if she didn't confess that. Lee

1207
01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:45.960
<v Speaker 2>shot Kennedy. Now this is on tape, right, Play it

1208
01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:51.319
<v Speaker 2>to the CIA, play it to the FBI. Now bring

1209
01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:54.600
<v Speaker 2>me in front of a judge, because when you do,

1210
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:58.600
<v Speaker 2>you've got to bring the documents to support your claim

1211
01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:03.840
<v Speaker 2>against me, release and classified information. Now, attorneys out there

1212
01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:07.119
<v Speaker 2>know what I just said, So come on, bring bring

1213
01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:11.079
<v Speaker 2>the charges on me. They call that false accusations against

1214
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the government fact f A G charge. First, I thought

1215
01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:20.880
<v Speaker 2>they were calling me gay, and I got a little

1216
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:27.359
<v Speaker 2>bit upset with them, you know. But uh, you know,

1217
01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:30.680
<v Speaker 2>it looks that something different where they got to name

1218
01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:36.720
<v Speaker 2>it that, well I got you know, I got documents proved.

1219
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna.

1220
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

1221
01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I know you gotta go. We run out of time

1222
01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:51.640
<v Speaker 2>on all this stuff, you know. But uh but anyway, Uh,

1223
01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:54.760
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you don't want to know the things you know. Uh,

1224
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>back in the days, Uh, we used to have a

1225
01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:58.920
<v Speaker 2>thing like you know, you asked me, if your question,

1226
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:00.800
<v Speaker 2>how do you know this? How you know that? There

1227
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:02.680
<v Speaker 2>was a time when we used to say, hey, man,

1228
01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:05.479
<v Speaker 2>don't tell me that. Don't tell me what you're doing

1229
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know. It's like when when you're

1230
01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:11.920
<v Speaker 2>in Vietnam and a new guy comes on, you don't

1231
01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:13.840
<v Speaker 2>want to get to know him because they may be

1232
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:17.119
<v Speaker 2>blown away tomorrow. You don't want to get to like anybody.

1233
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:19.199
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to know anything about what somebody else

1234
01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:23.760
<v Speaker 2>is doing. You don't want to be involved. You don't

1235
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:26.840
<v Speaker 2>want to know the things you know, and you sure

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<v Speaker 2>as held don't want some guy ragging. Hey, a man,

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01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I was there to stop the Kennedy assassination. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>tell you my story, and you sure has held. Okay,

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01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:40.520
<v Speaker 2>let me real back up here, check this one out.

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01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Two days before usually was reported missing, I met with

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01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:50.079
<v Speaker 2>the FBI concerned about his safety and my safety and

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01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:55.000
<v Speaker 2>was we going to be subpoenaed again? Sam Jay Conna

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01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:57.319
<v Speaker 2>has just been killed nine months before. He was going

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01:22:57.399 --> 01:23:01.720
<v Speaker 2>back the second time to testify about assassination attempts on

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01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:05.199
<v Speaker 2>foreign leaders. I know we're running out, running out of

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01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:12.239
<v Speaker 2>time here, right, yeah, we can go from okay. So

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01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:14.640
<v Speaker 2>so anyway, I was concerned about my safety because I

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01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:17.880
<v Speaker 2>was going to be subpoened back to testify the second time,

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01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:22.119
<v Speaker 2>like ROSSELLI, like Johnny ROSSELLI. So I made contact, asked

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01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:25.720
<v Speaker 2>the FBI, what can I do? Are they gonna subpoenion

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01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:29.880
<v Speaker 2>me again? I'm concerned, and I'm concerned about my friend

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01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Rosselli. I was his pilot. I'd flown him all

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01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:36.880
<v Speaker 2>over the place, and we were good friends, and I

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01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:40.960
<v Speaker 2>was concerned about his safety. And I told him that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was on July the twenty sixth, nineteen seventy six.

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01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:48.399
<v Speaker 2>He was reported missing by his wife on July the

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01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:51.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighth, and his body was found in Dumbfounding based

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01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:54.199
<v Speaker 2>stuffed in the fifty five gallon drum with his legs

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01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:59.039
<v Speaker 2>cut off on August the seventh, August the eighth and ninth.

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<v Speaker 2>The FBI came back out to me on the twenty first,

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<v Speaker 2>of the twenty first. This was four files, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>on the twenty first, asking me what did I think?

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<v Speaker 2>Who did I think kill Rosselli? And they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>know everything I knew about Rosselli. And they had pulled

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<v Speaker 2>the Samjocono file, and they had pulled a church committee

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01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:27.119
<v Speaker 2>file and found out that I had testified and drew

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01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:32.399
<v Speaker 2>a map in nineteen sixty four of triangulation shooting of D. D. Plaza,

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01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:38.920
<v Speaker 2>And they had classified that map. Why so I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>here looking at your camera saying, Okay, release what Plumby

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01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>just said. Release the Epstein files, released the classified files

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01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:54.760
<v Speaker 2>of Jonidis. Get it all out there and let the

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01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:59.720
<v Speaker 2>American people decide what they're going to do about it. Lies, lies,

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01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>and cover up. What's the reason? Guns, drugs and women? Money,

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01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:12.039
<v Speaker 2>money and money today as it was yesterday? And with

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<v Speaker 2>that all, let's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a deep one. Do you let people know

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01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:21.399
<v Speaker 1>where they can purchase your book if you have a

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01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>website or anything that you like.

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01:25:23.079 --> 01:25:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a website of the name book. So

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01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:28.359
<v Speaker 2>now it's in Amazon. It's up there in the first

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01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>one hundred. Right now, that's doing pretty good. I can

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01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:33.520
<v Speaker 2>tell that's going pretty good by the nature of the

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01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:40.760
<v Speaker 2>questions of the comments that they're asking challenge the book.

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01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>But the point I'm trying to make is do it yourself.

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01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Get off to counts, do your own research, follow the

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01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:53.479
<v Speaker 2>breadcrumbs at Ralph Pazzulu and I. Ralphula has a lot

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01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.560
<v Speaker 2>more credentials in writing than I do. He's written about

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01:25:56.560 --> 01:25:59.079
<v Speaker 2>five or six books. This is my first first book.

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01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:02.680
<v Speaker 2>The Way Things Are Going is gonna be my last. Book.

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01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a damn about publishers and all that

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01:26:07.960 --> 01:26:12.800
<v Speaker 2>rat race and pr and talking to people. That's not

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01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:16.000
<v Speaker 2>my cup of tea. I'm a pilot. I pilot here,

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01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I pillo it over there. I'll pill it where anybody

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01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:22.479
<v Speaker 2>wants it piled. But I don't get into all this

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01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:26.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of crazy crap of writing books and doing movies

1296
01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:31.439
<v Speaker 2>and playing with that Hollywood crowd. Not my game, Fatigue.

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01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:34.399
<v Speaker 2>Bob Roner was a good friend. I was on a

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01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:37.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of broadcasts of his. Dick Russell wrote the forward

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01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:43.560
<v Speaker 2>for the book, and Saint John, Howard Hunt's son, wrote

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01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:47.760
<v Speaker 2>afterwards for the book. So, and I've known Saint John

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01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:51.439
<v Speaker 2>since he was a little kid, and Howard Hunt and

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01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I were good friends. And his mother, Dorothy stories behind

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01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:58.279
<v Speaker 2>all that. Some of your listeners want to know what

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01:26:58.319 --> 01:26:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. We don't have time to go in

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01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:04.560
<v Speaker 2>all that. But uh, anyway, So Saint John Hunt and

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01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:09.720
<v Speaker 2>his daddy he wrote the bond Bus Secrecy and when

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01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:13.399
<v Speaker 2>he wrote the afterwards for the book, Deep Cover Cell

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01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>of Graves and his dad's mentioned in the book how

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<v Speaker 2>he got to Dallas confirms the flight. The other part

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<v Speaker 2>of the thing is is that the flight plan, the

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01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>aircraft ID numbers, and the fuel receipts signed by me

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01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>on the site and on location are all classified in

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01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:38.199
<v Speaker 2>that seventeen thousand pages that I just made a plea

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<v Speaker 2>for the Pentagon to release. They're reviewing them. What the

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01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:47.039
<v Speaker 2>hell are they reviewing them? Just release them and let

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01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:52.239
<v Speaker 2>the chips fall with a mea same thing with the

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01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:56.399
<v Speaker 2>lips and files. Release them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we need to get all those. There's uh,

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01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.399
<v Speaker 1>I think two million or another million more files that

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been released, so hopefully we will get them. Hopefully

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01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll get your files, and if people are interested in

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01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>purchasing your book, I'm going to put the link in

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01:28:11.800 --> 01:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the description for people to check out on Amazon Prime. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just use your discernment and use your own

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01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>judgment what you think of.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate that you're giving me the time to explain this

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<v Speaker 2>on here. I'm sorry, I'm rambling out. I'll just let

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01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:31.479
<v Speaker 2>it hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. I very much enjoyed it. For everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for watching and listening. Please be sure to hit

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01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:41.760
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<v Speaker 1>Sure subscribe at the bal Icon as well for notifications

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll see you guys next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep up, keep up the good work.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.