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Speaker 1: A wall street line, shackle change, Oh weesome, gird, it's

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calling my name. There is no mercy and it's been

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a tentery juice as the huge stream game Rango three,

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come here by.

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Speaker 2: Me to die.

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Speaker 3: Inside these walls, inside the wild, hadn't went the girl

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as I.

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Speaker 4: Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody and Gola, a

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podcast one and forty two years in the making, the

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complete story of America's bloodiest prison. I'm Jim Chapman. And look,

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last week I brought you the story of what many

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consider the most dangerous male prisoner ever in the history

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of prisons in the United States, and that was the

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story of Thomas Silverstein, otherwise known as Terrible Tommy. So

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after I finished up that story, it got me curious

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on who would be considered the most dangerous female prisoner

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in the United States. But I wanted to cover someone

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that was still alive and still incarcerated in prison, and

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one stood out.

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Speaker 5: To me more than others in my research, and.

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Speaker 4: That was an inmate currently incarcerated in Florida for the

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murder of an elderly couple after kidnapping and robbing them.

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And so today I'm going to tell you the story

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of Tiffany Coal. And she had some co conspirators that

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I'm going to touch on as well, but the majority

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of this all about her. So in order to tell

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you why Tiffany Cole ended up where she ended up,

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we have to start at the beginning and her upbringing,

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her background, if you will. And as is common with

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a lot of people that end up where Tiffany Cole

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ends up, it usually starts with a traumatic childhood. Not

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all cases, but a lot of cases that I see,

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and this story will be no different. So Tiffany Cole,

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she was born on December third of nineteen eighty one

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in Charleston, South Carolina. And Charleston, South Carolina, y'all, a

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very historic coastal city known for its cobblestone streets, its

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Southern charm, and historically speaking, it was a major port

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back in the day, featuring Antebelle homes, plantations, and significant.

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Speaker 5: Civil War sites.

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Speaker 4: Fort Sumterter, for example, is in Charleston, South Carolina. There

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are a lot of beautiful beaches there, they have great food,

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just an amazing place to live and visit. As a

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matter of fact, Charleston attracts millions of visitors each year

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to its downtown area and as beautiful as Charleston, South

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Carolina is where Tiffany Cole grew up. Unfortunately, her family

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life was a stark contrast to that beauty, and from

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the beginning her life was difficult. Her mother, Shirley Duncan,

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was sixteen years old when she had Tiffany. She was

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unweeded at the time, and the father was a guy

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named David Duncan Senior, and he was in prison at

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the time of her birth, So you can imagine the

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amount of instability that comes with that. Now, Initially, she

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would live with her mother and her maternal grandmother, and

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the family would frequently move to different areas of Charleston,

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South Carolina, and they would rely heavily on government assistance.

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They just never had any money. Man, they were struggling. Now,

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sometime in the early nineteen eighties, during her toddler years,

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her parents would eventually marry. After her father got out

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of prison. He would provide some financial support, but it

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was strictly financial. He showed very little emotional interest in

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his daughter, according to Tiffany, So with all of this turmoil.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't long.

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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, it was nineteen eighty six,

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when Tiffany was just five years old, that her parents

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would divorce, and, as is common in a lot of divorces,

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she's going to be shuttled back and forth between her

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father and her mother, and you know a lot of

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instability with that. He was also around this time that

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her brother, dj was born, and things were so unstable

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in their households that she would become kind of like

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a surrogate mother to her younger brother due to all

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this instability, even at the young age of five. Now,

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in the late nineteen eighties and early nineteen nineties, during

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her childhood, the environment would get even more turbulent for Tiffany.

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She would witness physical abuse toward family members, including her

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brother getting physically beat by her stepfather allegedly, and she

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would even describe an incident later on in life where

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her stepfather broke a puppy's neck by throwing it against

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the wall, and she would characterize that as a time

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in her life where that was extremely traumatic because she

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had such an affection toward animals like a lot of

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us do now. It was during this time that her

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family lived next door to a couple, and the couple's

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name were Carol and Reggie Sumner and her father would

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become friends with this couple, being that they were next

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door neighbors. Right now, this couple, of course, is going

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to come into play heavily, very heavily later on in

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this podcast, but for now, moving on in Tiffany's life.

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In nineteen eighty three, at the age of twelve, her

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mother gets in a relationship with a man and his

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name is Rick, and Rick would become Tiffany's stepfather and

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this would lead to the birth of a younger brother. Now,

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it was at this time that twelve year old Tiffany

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would also hit a pretty tough time in her life.

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She would start running away from home and would really

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spiral into just a awful world of substance abuse with

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some hard drugs. I'm not talking marijuana, hear, I'm talking

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cocaine xanax. And she would also start drinking heavily, and

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it blows my mind. Twelve years old. How the fuck

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do you get cocaine at twelve years old? I have

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no idea, but Tiffany figured it out.

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Speaker 5: How do you drink heavily at twelve?

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Speaker 4: I understand if you sneak into your mom's kitchen cabinet

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or something and steal alcohol, but drinking to her extent.

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Speaker 4: Surprisingly also during this time, she still managed to stay

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in school and she actually had really good grades and

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would participate in a lot of extracurricular activities like band

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and girl Scouts. But in the tenth grade, she dropped

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out of school and she runs away from her mother's

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home permanently and she moves in with her first boyfriend, Steven.

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Now she was sixteen at this time in her life,

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and that relationship would last for about two years, but

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she would be abused often by this guy, and later

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she would say he completely destroyed her self esteem, along

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with another incident that would occur at just the young

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age of sixteen, when her father, David Duncan, allegedly would

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start sexually abusing his own daughter.

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Speaker 5: For a period of the next two years.

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Speaker 4: So around nineteen ninety nine, she is I'm as eighteen

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years old and she confides in her mother about this

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sex abuse that was taking place at the hands of

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her father, and this is all Tiffany alleging this, and

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later she would say her mother did not believe her

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and basically accused her of lying about all of this,

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and she really didn't know what to do at that point,

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but at the age of eighteen, Tiffany Cole would move on.

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She would actually earn her ged work several jobs at

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that time in her life, including being a waitress, a cashier,

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she was trying. And it was also at this point

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in time, the year two thousand, that Tiffany would meet

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and start exclusively dating a guy by the name of Wayne,

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and Wayne was the son.

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Speaker 5: Of a sheriff.

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Speaker 4: Now, Wayne, much like her prior relationship choices, very violent.

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Speaker 4: There were allegedly situations where he would hit her with

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an axe handle, he would break her car windshield. I mean,

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according to her, this dude was violent. She also became

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a mother between the ages of eighteen and twenty three. Now,

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the details of her daughter very limited. Not much as

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known about who the father is or the exact year

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birth of the child, and it's really not important to

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this story. It's only important to know that she did

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have a child. The big details on that not as important.

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now at the age of twenty three, in early two

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thousand and five, Tiffany learns that her father had terminal cancer,

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and she moves into his home to take care of him.

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of surprised me. She must have some sort of heart there,

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at least for her father, because the same guy that

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was molesting her for years and she still moved into

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his home to take care of him when he had

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terminal cancer. But it brings up the next part of

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So if you remember in the beginning of this one,

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I told you about a couple that were her neighbors,

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Carol and Reggie Sumner.

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Speaker 5: I mentioned him earlier.

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Speaker 4: Well, they always maintained touch with Tiffany and her father,

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but in the summer of two thousand and five, they

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decide to move to Jacksonville, Florida.

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Speaker 5: Both had become ill.

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Speaker 4: Reggie had inmphysema and several other problems.

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Speaker 5: He could barely walk.

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Speaker 4: At this point. They were sixty one years old, both

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of them. His wife Carol at the time, had lever

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cancer stemming from hepatitis sea. So they tell Tiffany about

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this move, and Tiffany says, what are you going to do?

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needed one. What are you going to do with that

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green Chevy Lumina. And rather than Tiffany paying cash because

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she was interested in buying it, they knew she didn't

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have much cash.

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Speaker 5: They agreed. They said, look, here's what we'll do.

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Speaker 4: If you want to buy our green Chevy Lumina, will

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charge you a certain amount per month. They'll basically self

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finance it to her, and you can either mail us

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some money or you can come see us, come visit us,

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and pay us at that time. And she agrees to

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do that. Everybody's happy now out Jacksonville, although it's in

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a completely different state than Charleston, South Carolina, tell me

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about three and a half hours away. So Tiffany, who

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they really cared about, she could visit them to make

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those payments if she wanted to, and she would make

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several trips their way. This couple really looked at Tiffany

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as their own granddaughter, really cared for her. They knew

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she had a tough life and they wanted to help her.

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of took a liking to Tiffany, especially in the case

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of Carol Sumner. So Carolyn Reggie, they originally met each

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other in high school. This was in the late nineteen fifties,

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and they began dating in high school. But after high school,

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for whatever reason, after graduation, they break up and it

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would not be until much later in life they reconnect.

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then he will work for the railroad. He would get

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married and then divorced. And Carol would also have two

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prior marriages which would lead to the birth of two children.

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The second one was extremely abusive, so abusive in fact,

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that Carol would file a restraining order just to have

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the second husband show up at her house and.

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Speaker 5: Shoot her six times.

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Speaker 4: Police would chase him down, they would corner him, and

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then he would shoot himself.

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Speaker 5: He would die.

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Speaker 4: Carol, however, would survive. And I think that's why she

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had kind of a ken ship with this young girl Tiffany,

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was because maybe she kind of felt like that was

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her at one point in her life. So after all

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of that went down, so many years would pass before

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Carol and Reggie would meet again. And at that point,

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Reggie worked for a telephone company. You got to hear

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how they kind of got reconnected. Literally, he worked for

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a telephone company and he got a call from Carol

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about telephone, sir, she was having some issues. She's calling

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the telephone company and saying, something's wrong my phone right,

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Speaker 5: Like, oh, I know you. We used to date.

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Speaker 4: That total chance encounter would cause them to rekindle their relationship,

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and a year after that this couple would get married.

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Speaker 5: So life goes.

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Speaker 4: On, and as I told you, they end up moving

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and Tiffany, she gets involved in a relationship with a

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guy in his name is Michael James Jackson. You can't

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make that shit up. Michael Jackson, whose name was Michael Jackson.

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Michael Jackson was not a good guy at all. This

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dude had a long history of felonies throughout his life

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and was actually just released on parole when he and

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Tiffany met, and this was on May fourteenth of two

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in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, where Tiffany had traveled there

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with two friends. They were gonna have fun hangout. She

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meets this guy in the lobby, Michael Jackson, and they

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fall in love right in one day. So keep that

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in mind, and we're gonna fast forward a bit to

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July of two thousand and five and one of Carol's daughters, Ronda,

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she gets concerned because she hadn't heard from her mother

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and her stepfather in almost a week. Now, they typically

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talk every day, so this was very out of the

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norm for them. She's so concerned, in fact, that she

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makes a three hour drive from Charleston to Jacksonville to

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check on them. When she pulled up to the house

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the couples know where to be seen, she can't find

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them anywhere. She's looking in windows, doing the whole deal.

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She doesn't see them anywhere. So on July tenth, she

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calls the Jacksonville Police Department and she reports them missing.

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So police they go make a welfare check and they

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note several things when they arrived. First of all, they

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noticed the Sumner's car was missing. They also noticed the

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door was unlocked. Now did her daughter check the door.

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I couldn't find whether she did or not. Hopefully she did.

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Maybe she went inside and noticed they weren't inside either,

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But it never mentioned that, so I didn't want to

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say it. But the police did notice the door was unlocked,

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food was left on the stove, Carol's phone was left

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connected to her charger. Her cell phone, and a planner

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that Carol would always keep with her in the matter

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where she went. That was also in the house, which

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was very strange. Some other things say that is the

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family dog was still there. And even all the medication

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that Carol and her husband, Reggie needed were in the house.

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Speaker 5: They didn't take it with them. So this told police

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right off.

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Speaker 4: They didn't go on some sort of vacation and not

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just tell anybody they were missing. And it was under

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suspicious circumstances, because you're not going to leave your medicine,

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you're not going to leave your planner, you're not going

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to leave your dog and just split down. So at

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this point detectives started investigating. They put out a bolo

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A be on the lookout for the vehicle, and they

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also gather some pictures of the couple together, working with

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the couple's daughter, Ronda, who reported all of this, and

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they issue that to the media and they say, cover

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this on all the news.

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Speaker 5: They're very concerned about this couple.

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Speaker 4: And it was not long before they get a tip

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about the car when they release a picture of the

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car and it's found nearly fifty miles from Jacksonville. And

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the car was unlocked, but it didn't have any keys

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in it. So as they're working that scene, just five

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hours after finding the car, the police get a really

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strange phone call.

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Speaker 6: Listen to this thigs ready, I'm to tell them my

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wife right and assistant passed away from the Mars division.

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Speaker 7: The neighborhood called this morning and said open that.

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Speaker 6: The Lincoln was missing.

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Speaker 7: We just moved actually too there, not long ago from

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South Carolina.

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Speaker 6: Do you have anybody that we can contact to help

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us make sure that everything of the house should be there?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Now, this person identified themselves as you just heard as

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Reggie Sumner. But did you hear that voice? Did that

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sound like a sixty one year old man to you? Well,

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that's the same reaction the police had. He also said

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they were having a tough time using their bank cards.

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Police ask him, hey, can we speak to Carol? And

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that's when the female voice gets on the phone. And

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obviously that wasn't the voice of a sixty one year

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old female who is very sick. Not dealing with the

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sharpest knives in the deck here are we. So police

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they start investigating where that call came from, who was

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that line tied to, what cell phone number did that

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come from, those sorts of things. And they also start

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looking into the banking records for those bank cards because

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the caller did note in that conversation that they couldn't

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get the bank cards to work. Just idiots, right, So

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when police started investigating the banking situation here, they pull

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statements and they notice a bunch of ATM withdrawals in

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and around the time that this couple went missing. And

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when you get to an ATM, what happens every time

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you go, well, you get caught on camera. So when

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police look at the camera footage, they get the faces

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of those tied to the voices that they heard in

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the phone calls. They were also able to trace the

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cell phone number as well that it called the police department.

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And when they pull the cell phone records, they see

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a call to a car rental company, So they call

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the car rental company, which in turn was able to

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cross reference the cell number the police provided to the

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person that rented a car in that car was a

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silver Mazda RX eight, and police knew that that's the

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same car that was pulling up at these ATMs with

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people getting out of it. And those two voices police

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heard on the phone call claiming to be the missing couple,

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well obviously those were none other than the voices of

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Tiffany Cole and Michael Jackson. Police would also discover, now,

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as luck would have it, the Mazda was equipped with GPS.

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The rental car and with the help of the rental

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car company, the police would trace that car to a

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motel in South Carolina, and at that motel they find

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two rooms rented out in Tiffany Call's real name. Now,

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in those two rooms, one room contained Tiffany and Michael

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Jackson and the other room was an eighteen year old

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man by the name of Alan Wade. What do you

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think police did at that point, Well, they go pull

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those people out of the rooms. They take them to

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the police station and they start questioning them, and what

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they would get out of them when the smoke cleared

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was absolutely horrific. Now, early in the questioning, another name

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is going to surface, and it was a guy by

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the name of Bruce Nixon, and he was pretty much

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the key to this case because Bruce Nixon would sing

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like a freaking canary on this whole deal, in all

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the horrific details that are involved, and as Bruce Nixon

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would tell it, Michael and Tiffany traveled to Jacksonville to

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visit the third guy that was in that hotel room,

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Alan Wade. He lived in Jacksonville, so they travel to

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go see him, and on the way they stop off

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at the Sumner's house and the summoner says, Hey, since

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you're going to be down here visiting your friend, if

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y'all want to stay here instead of getting a hotel room,

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we're cool with it.

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Speaker 5: That's fine.

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Speaker 4: So Tiffany and Michael agree to do that and they

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go visit their friend. They come back to the couple's

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home and while they're there at night, I would assume

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all sitting around the kitchen table, the Sumners mentioned that

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they recently finally sold their house in South Carolina, and

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that they got a good profit off of this house.

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Mister Sumner Reggie, he was proud of this. He says, Man,

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we profited like ninety thousand dollars on that house.

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Speaker 5: Well, when you tell.

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Speaker 4: That to someone like me, I'm gonna say, man, that's great,

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and it's going to be in one ear and out

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the other. But when you tell that to a piece

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of shit like Michael Jackson, who is nothing but a

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career criminal, right, he hears this, and when you have

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a criminal mind, that's going to raise a radar. And

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he starts taking mental notes of that and everything else

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as it relates to that house. He starts looking around

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at the furnishings. In his mind, he's adding up how

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much money he could get by stealing this stuff. Right,

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So he gets Tiffany by herself at some point and

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they hatch a plan. And initially that plan was, hey,

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we can break in when they're not here, but for

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some reason he decides against doing that. And then the

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plan becomes we can just give them an overabundance of

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their medicine and kill them.

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Speaker 5: But for whatever reason.

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Speaker 4: He decided against that and then they evolve that plan

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into another plan. And this is where Michael initiates the

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help of Bruce Nixon, and he said, Hey, Bruce, I

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want to rob someone's house. And I'm not sure exactly

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what he told Bruce Nixon as far as what the

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plan was from there. Now, if you listen to Bruce Nixon,

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Bruce Nixon says, they went and got shovels, but he

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was under the understanding that they were going to bury

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the stuff that they stole from this couple for a

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while and then go back and get it. We'll go

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with his story for now. The trio they do. They

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get some shovels, Michael, Bruce Nixon, and Tiffany Cole and

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they go to a remote wooded area in Georgia and

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they dig a hole. And this hole is six feet

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deep by four feet wide six feet deep by four

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feet wide. Now, Allen and Bruce and Michael dug the

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hole and Tiffany she holds the flashlight. So on July

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eighth of two thousand and five, around ten o'clock PM,

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they rent this Mazda and they drive to the couple's

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home and they have a fake gun in toe. They

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didn't want a record of purchasing a gun, so they

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actually got a toy gun. And while Tiffany and Michael

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wait inside the car, Alan and Bruce got.

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Speaker 5: To the door of this couple.

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Speaker 4: Because the couple knew who Tiffany and Mike were, right,

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they didn't know who Alan and Bruce were. So Carol

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goes to the door and these two total strangers to her.

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They say, we're having car trouble. And Carol, who had

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never seen these guys before, but that's just who she was,

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she wanted to help. She lets them in to use

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the find so as Sennys ain't enter, they pull out

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the fake gun and they pointed at that couple and

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the Sumners. They're scared shitless. I mean, miss Sumner very

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bad health, poor lady sixty one years old. She was

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in that position to fight them. She's just scared shitless.

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Her husband can barely walk. As a matter of fact,

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he was needing to be wheeled around in a wheelchair

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in most places.

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Speaker 5: Of that, both of them very ill.

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Speaker 4: And these guys pull a gun pointed at him and

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they start pleading for their life. And they say, hey, look,

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we'll cooperate with whatever you want us to do you

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can have whatever you want, just don't kill us. But

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all that pleading just basically falls on deaf ears the men.

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At that point, they pull out duct tape and they

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tape the couple's eyes, They tape their hands, they tape

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their feet, and they tape their mouth and can you

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imagine how scared they are. Alan then goes and cuts

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the phone lines, and at that point Michael comes into

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the home and he starts taking the financial records that

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he made a mental note of where these were located.

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He also steals the couple's valuable coin collection from the home.

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They then take this elderly couple and they force them

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into the trunk of their own car and they the

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couple with Michael and Tiffany in one vehicle and these

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other two assholes in the vehicle that belonged to Carolyn Reggie.

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They drive that to that pre dug hole. And Michael

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would say this later, which is just heartbreaking to me.

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So apparently on the ride the couple inside of that trunk,

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they managed to break free of the duct tape and

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they untape themselves. They untape their eyes, they untape their mouth, etc.

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Speaker 5: Now nobody in.

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Speaker 4: The car do that outside of the couple. But when

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they get to where they're going, they get to that hole,

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they get at the back, they pop the trunk and

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Michael's standing there and the couple is just lying there

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in the trunk, embracing each other and praying, absolutely scared

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to death. Now U Paun seeing this, Michael in a

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total piece of shit move, tells them you're gonna have

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to put the duct tape on, and you're gonna have

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to put it back over your eyes because I don't

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want to see your eyes when I shoot. You wrap

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your mind around that. So then he forces them out

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of the car and somehow he manages to get their

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ATM PEN number.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure it didn't take much.

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Speaker 4: Prime they're scared absolutely to death, and they give up

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that PEN number and he takes them at that point

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and he shoves them into this pre dug hole. Now

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remember that gun is fake. He can't shoot him to

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death first. He just simply shoves them into the hole

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and covers it up, bearing them alive. Now, later autopsies

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would show that both Reggie and Carol had dirt in

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their lungs, meaning they were completely buried alive, and they

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were sucking in dirt when they would breathe horrible. The

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group then dumped the vehicle and they go on a

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week long fucking party with the victim's money, complete with limousines, champagne, drugs, orgies,

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you name it. So, with all this information, they indict

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everybody on August eighteenth of two thousand and five in

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Duval County, Florida on charges of two counts each of

480
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:38,720
first degree murder, arm, robbery, and kidnapping. Now, the trials

481
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,240
were held separately, and Bruce Nixon, he obviously was the

482
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:46,880
one that cooperated with authorities, so he got a plea

483
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,480
deal in his case, and on March twelfth of two

484
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,599
thousand and seven, he pleaded guilty to two counts of

485
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,519
second degree murder, two counts of kidnapping, and some other

486
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:01,720
charges related to the case. But in exchange for his

487
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:05,599
cooperation and testimony against the others that were accused, and

488
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,599
that was important, he did avoid the death penalty. And

489
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:11,880
he was also the one to lead police to the

490
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,200
victim's grave site, which I've often said this, I'm okay

491
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:18,960
with plea deals if they lead to something like that.

492
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,839
So he was sentenced to two concurrent forty five year

493
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,119
prison tern, which means they're at the same time. It's

494
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,200
not ninety years, it's forty five years essentially for both

495
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:34,160
as a total. Michael Jackson was up next. This was

496
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,400
in May of two thousand and seven, and he was

497
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,759
convicted after a separate trial of two counts of first

498
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:43,160
degree murder and he was sentenced to two death penalties,

499
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,400
one for each murder. On October twentieth of two thousand

500
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,119
and seven, Tiffany Cole was convicted. That was after a

501
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,960
week long trial. This was in Duval County, Florida, of

502
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:59,000
two accounts of first degree murder, two counts of kidnapping,

503
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,279
in two counts ounce of robbery. Now, the jury deliberated

504
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:07,000
for less than ninety minutes and they end up voting

505
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:11,359
nine to three in favor of the death penalty, so

506
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,880
she does. She gets the death penalty in that case

507
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,599
on October twenty fourth of two thousand and seven. Just

508
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,079
a few days later, Alan Wade is convicted after a

509
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,359
separate trial of two counts of first three murder, two

510
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,599
counts of armed robbery, in two counts of kidnapping, and

511
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,920
in his penalty phase. On November fifteenth of two thousand

512
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,880
and seven, the jury recommends a death sentence by eleven

513
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,519
to one vote, so he also gets the death penalty.

514
00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:46,680
So at this point, everybody is sentenced to death, with

515
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:50,480
the exception of the guy that cooperated. But a law

516
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:55,640
surfaces in twenty sixteen that changes everything. And that law

517
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:01,519
in twenty sixteen required a unanimous jury verdict in a

518
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:05,799
death penalty case for you to actually get the death penalty.

519
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:09,639
So what happens They all have to get retried again.

520
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,599
Speaker 5: And I'll just.

521
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 4: Skip the dates of when all of this occurred, but

522
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,800
it was between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty five.

523
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,920
But Alan Wade ends up being resentenced to life in prison.

524
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:30,039
Michael Jackson also gets resentenced to life in prison. Tiffany

525
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:37,800
Cole also resentenced to life in prison. However, that and

526
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,159
I know this is hard to get boom and I

527
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,559
know this is hard to keep up with, but the

528
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:47,119
law goes back in twenty twenty four. I believe it

529
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,320
was to where you can be sentenced with a non

530
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:59,639
unanimous jury, and Michael Jackson's resentenced to death in his case.

531
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,519
So that's what happened to all four of those individuals.

532
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:06,800
When all the smoke cleared, Michael Jackson was the only

533
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,039
one to receive the death penalty. Everyone else got resentenced

534
00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:14,559
to life in prison, and as of this recording in

535
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:18,639
January of twenty twenty six, Tiffany is now forty four

536
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,920
years old and she's serving life at Lowell Correctional Institute

537
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:30,159
in Florida. And at her resentencing relatives of Sumners, they

538
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:36,159
express their forgiveness of Tiffany, saying quote, I truly forgive you,

539
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,480
and all I can say is that is a better

540
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:43,079
person than me. And I'll say that straight up because

541
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,639
I could never forgive someone who buried a friend of

542
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:52,800
mine a life, much less a family member. And I

543
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,880
got something for you that I'm going to play for you,

544
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,119
just to close this one out, because there's some people

545
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:00,719
out there that are going to want to hear this.

546
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,360
And this is actually the questioning of Michael Jackson.

547
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 6: Because you want to talk to me without your attorney, Yeah,

548
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,000
because I know, I mean, you got to go through

549
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,079
all kind of craziness to get the blow in. It

550
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:17,480
takes you long ago. But now before we do that,

551
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,559
you know you don't have to speak to me, right, yeah,

552
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,960
of course, and you know that you're waving You're right

553
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,960
to have your attorney by talking with me. Right, We've

554
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,840
gone over your rights multiple multiple, multiple times. Do you

555
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,920
have any questions about those? Okay, just want to make

556
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,760
sure that's clear before we get going here.

557
00:36:33,519 --> 00:36:38,519
Speaker 7: I'm wanting to hear what I'm gonna leave those at.

558
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 8: The more.

559
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,199
Speaker 6: So, what you wanna talk about today?

560
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 9: Maybe last time I went to court from I mean,

561
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,719
I don't really know what's going on because, like I said,

562
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,400
I ain't got to discovery yet. I really know you

563
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,119
know what's having When the last time went to court,

564
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,320
he put in the motion for the bond or whatever,

565
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,039
and it Jelly says something about him to the Home State.

566
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:57,440
He said something about it to say that you got

567
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,960
a father AffA David or something about if evidence is evidence.

568
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,679
Speaker 6: I don't you know what I'm saying.

569
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 7: What do you want to bond hearing?

570
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get happy capital murder

571
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,760
case in Florida. There is no bond. Ain't gonna happen.

572
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,039
Don't understand them. It's the rules. No bond. First degree murder.

573
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,679
You've been indicted by the grand jury on charges of

574
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,400
first degree murder. There is no bond on the first

575
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,719
degree murder charge. No possibility of getting out, no possibility

576
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,480
of bond whatsoever. Well sums that up quick pretty much.

577
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 7: That question.

578
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 6: Don Yeah, I'll be straight up with you. I've been

579
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,920
straight with you from the get go. I gonna lie

580
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,400
to you. Michael. Let me ask you a question. If

581
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,360
you got to bond, hearing you can show back up

582
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,920
in court. Yeah, no, no, no, it's just like I told lawyer.

583
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:45,039
It's just like I told my lawyer.

584
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 9: My parents said they would come down here and give

585
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,360
me an apartment down here, everything just so I don't

586
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,800
go nowhere, so I can no offense.

587
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 7: You're getting freak housing.

588
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:54,039
Speaker 6: If I was in your position, Let's be honest. If

589
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:56,760
I was in your position, I damn sure wouldn't show

590
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,800
back up.

591
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:02,639
Speaker 7: Man, can all this? I can prove what I can prove.

592
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:03,559
Speaker 6: A lot of stuff I can beve.

593
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,639
Speaker 10: Then I ain't kill nobody do that because I can.

594
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 6: I can do that. Improve it. Tell me how to

595
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,280
prove it? Okay, what do I need to prove it?

596
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,840
Is what I'm saying. Nine of the ten.

597
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 9: All I need is an alibi, a credible witness. Definitely,

598
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,639
they can put me with them on this date, said

599
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:20,880
that I killed these people.

600
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 11: You're watching way too much television. Okay, there in the

601
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,360
cellar or something. No, I mean, it's just common sense,

602
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,719
my lord. This is what the lawd what alibi is

603
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,440
gonna put you there?

604
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 10: I got a person. I got a female doctor that

605
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,599
can put me with her.

606
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 6: I'm not heard where you were where you were at

607
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:41,000
over there across the Georgia line behind the fire station

608
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,599
at the house over there, states that that house from

609
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:47,800
Jerry Circle. Oh you talking about what I saw last time?

610
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,079
Speaker 10: Ye see, that's why I said, Man, it ain't even

611
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:50,800
know all about that.

612
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 6: I ain't got a new alibi now because that was

613
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,400
your old alibia.

614
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 10: Oh I still the same thing I told you, Like

615
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,519
I said, it was the.

616
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,639
Speaker 6: Same alabia with the same lady. That's what you're telling me.

617
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,480
I got a fem doctor.

618
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,199
Speaker 9: They can put me with her and say it said

619
00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:04,880
in the indictment, did she I don't really know how

620
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,880
the whole shit was worthy funny because it says that

621
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,679
it says the male suspects entered the dwelling, and then

622
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:13,559
it says something it don't never say, like it don't

623
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,360
specify you know, cool, who and who did what?

624
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,119
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. It just stays stick. You

625
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:18,639
know what I'm saying.

626
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:21,159
Speaker 9: The male suspects entered the house, and then it says

627
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:24,039
they were driven. It says I followed me, activity followed

628
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:25,119
Allan and Bruce in the car.

629
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,199
Speaker 6: Sit there, and it says you denying that? Who done

630
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,800
told us that twice already?

631
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 7: At least I.

632
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 6: Told you at once. But that's why I messed up

633
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,960
though twice. But see, that's what I'm saying, though, Man,

634
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,239
My biggest part is, like I said, the biggest part

635
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,840
is you made a dumb decision and here we are.

636
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:44,800
But in the beginning, though, you got understand where I

637
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,320
was coming from.

638
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,639
Speaker 9: In the beginning, it was like, Okay, I'm gonna have

639
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:50,119
to do whatever I can to go ahead and you know, get.

640
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,639
Speaker 6: Free because I ain't never been in no shit like this.

641
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 10: I don't even know what to do right now, you

642
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,079
know what I'm saying.

643
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 9: So okay, furthert thing that comes to my mind with

644
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:58,400
past experiences of getting in trouble, go ahead and work

645
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,079
with them, tell them what they want to hear, know

646
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:00,519
what I'm saying.

647
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 6: And I think we told you repeatedly we didn't want

648
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,960
to hear what you thought we wanted to hear. I

649
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,800
want to hear the truth about what happened. And then

650
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,559
you told us stuff. Okay. The only problem is is

651
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:12,480
the stuff you told us well pretty much the same

652
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:15,239
stuff everybody else told us. So we knew we were

653
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,159
on the right track there. Considering you know that, for instance,

654
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,280
Bruce was down here talking to us and you were

655
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,719
up there talking to us kind of makes it real

656
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,679
hard for you guys to coordinate a whole lot about

657
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:26,880
anything that's going on. You know what I'm saying, So

658
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,199
we knew what you were telling us in the beginning.

659
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,639
What's the truth. Okay, Now we also know you've had

660
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480
to work work your way out, you know, for what's

661
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:35,960
going on.

662
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 10: No, No, what I'm saying what I told you, I

663
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:38,880
don't deny it.

664
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Okay, in the beginning, I

665
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,400
told y'all, yeah, I was dead. I said, I held

666
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,760
a flash length YEP, I said. You know what I'm saying,

667
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,280
oh kind of shit. You know what I'm saying.

668
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 9: I'm not denying at at the time, okay, that I

669
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,679
didn't know what I told you.

670
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:52,199
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I'm not denying that.

671
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 9: Well, I'm I'm denying when why I fucked that was,

672
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,320
like I said, I should have never said I was there.

673
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, I ain't had nothing to

674
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,360
do with killing nobody.

675
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

676
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 9: I might have known about the ship and all this

677
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,039
other shit, but as far as I have anything to

678
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:04,239
do with it, but.

679
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 6: Tell me what you know about it. Tell me it's

680
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:06,960
as simple as that.

681
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,199
Speaker 10: It's like I said, I knew, I knew basically what

682
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,719
happened in.

683
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 6: There ain't no basically on we don't deal in this

684
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:15,079
little you know something something sort of might have. I mean,

685
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:17,360
you got something to tell me that that that you

686
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,639
say it's gonna clear you tell me, you plain english,

687
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:21,360
what you trying. What you're trying to tell me, don't

688
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,880
beat around the bush and hint of different things for

689
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,440
me to take six different ways.

690
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 9: I mean, but you said something's gonna cleaning though, But see,

691
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,199
I don't know what it is because like my fair

692
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,679
and my fair seeking.

693
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 6: There may be another another you know what I'm saying,

694
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,960
there may be nothing that can clear you because so far,

695
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,880
I mean, you give me about you know, three hundred

696
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,519
different versions of things that happen. So you know, I

697
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:44,920
gotta throw out at least two hundred and ninety nine

698
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,119
of those at.

699
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 7: Least give me.

700
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,559
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm vega.

701
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 9: I know I'm blocking my own self from you know,

702
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,159
being being excentive, so you know what I'm saying.

703
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 6: But I mean, you know what I mean. You keep

704
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,119
giving me a story, but then you don't give me

705
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:56,599
nothing to back it up. You know what I'm saying.

706
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:58,440
But see that's the point though, Like I mean, if

707
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,920
I tell you I'm a police officer, you want to

708
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:03,079
see some credentials and Stuss damn music police offer you

709
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:04,599
give me something that you ain't give me nothing to

710
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:06,679
back it up, and never give me nothing to back

711
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,719
it up? What what? What do you need? Though? That's

712
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,400
what I'm saying. What do ya tell me this? Tell

713
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,159
me the truth? No, I tell me this, I need

714
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:16,880
the truth. What did you know? What did you see?

715
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,679
What was your role in all this? And don't try

716
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,960
to tell me you didn't have no role in this? Okay,

717
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:22,840
I'm gonna tell you this though. It like I said,

718
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,840
And the murder, I ain't nothing to do with no murder. Okay,

719
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,239
you just say that. Till the day I died, they

720
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,400
did all three of them, had three of them.

721
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,199
Speaker 9: Okay, just from my understanding, Man, all I knew was

722
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,119
symbol is this? You know what I'm saying. I knew,

723
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:35,599
like I said, it was involved.

724
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:35,559
Speaker 2: In the lick.

725
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 6: It was involved in money. I'm interested. You know what

726
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:37,760
I'm saying.

727
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 9: A symbol is that it came down the money, and

728
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,280
then later it came down to Yo, two people died

729
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:42,719
for this ship.

730
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Oh shit, what do you mean?

731
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,280
Two people died for this ship? You know what I'm saying.

732
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,199
Speaker 9: I need to know what's up. I didn't even lie

733
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,119
in the time. Okay, I'm thinking, what can I do?

734
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 5: You know?

735
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,639
Speaker 6: Tell me about the LICKT? Who planned the LICKT?

736
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

737
00:42:54,519 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 6: Who planned it planned? I mean, who thought it up?

738
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:59,280
Whose idea was? How hew did we get into Ali

739
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,239
came to me, came to me with the car. I

740
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,920
knew what to do from there. I mean just because

741
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,440
I mean it's well, I mean, I had past experience.

742
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,679
How did you get like that? They stole the card?

743
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:10,599
Speaker 7: How they got together to steal a car?

744
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,159
Speaker 6: That was all from No, Like I said, that's a Tiffany.

745
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,000
Tiffany knew the girl Tiffany moved these people she knew

746
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,719
these people had money. The people used to live with her.

747
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,239
You know what I'm saying, how long? How long you

748
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,800
know that one?

749
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 10: Since two thousand week we moved to July, Yeah, I

750
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,480
said about eight.

751
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:28,559
Speaker 6: When we're living in Arlington, you hear each other. I

752
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:30,039
lived in the club, he lived in Images.

753
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 9: So I mean total times you know each other walk

754
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,159
here from the time that I met him to the

755
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:37,039
time we got arrested and out of years. We moved

756
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:39,360
to Florida in July or oh fourth, and y'all arrested

757
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,239
us in July oh five.

758
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,199
Speaker 6: Moved to Florida down there for me and card you

759
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,199
and Carlon. Yeah, okay, where'd you move from Charleston? From

760
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,519
Charleston North Charleston live Son, I mean, where were you

761
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:52,719
at just shiit?

762
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 4: Uh?

763
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 6: Well Most car Standing.

764
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,599
Speaker 9: Yeah, we heard well West Ashley because I stayed with her,

765
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,719
and then we moved from there to Most Corner, and

766
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,880
then from Most Corner that's when I came.

767
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 10: That's when we came out of Florida. We didn't even

768
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,159
know where we was gonna live.

769
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 9: Youl Carmen came down here together, we said, at the

770
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,800
airport for like a month and then we found the

771
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,079
apartment in the club and got a head from there.

772
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:16,199
Speaker 6: She and Carmen come down here. And then you met

773
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:17,199
Alan when you got here.

774
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 9: Yeah I met No, I met Allen. This this sounds crazy,

775
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,480
but I met Alan through ecstasy.

776
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:23,039
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Damn, like the.

777
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 7: Drugs or the clock drugs are a stripper.

778
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 6: Okay, my fall that shit clarified that. No, through the drugs.

779
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,519
But now actually I mean the party you're rolling selling,

780
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,920
singing or she just laying. He knew somebody that had

781
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,280
the fiells you you know what I'm saying.

782
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 9: And I knew the same person from being in the

783
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,119
strip clothes and Carmen and shit, and we just oh,

784
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:43,639
I live over here, Yeah I live over here.

785
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:44,119
Speaker 6: Oh what's up?

786
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: Hell?

787
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 6: You doing? You a close spot? So you just start

788
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,280
hanging from there. Okay, now you say the three of

789
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,599
them came up with this plot.

790
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 9: Now see this is all I knew. Like I said,

791
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,760
he came to me. He was like, look, okay, I

792
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,760
got a lick. You know what I'm saying. He has

793
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,000
seen me pull links. I just hit a lick, you

794
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,639
know what I'm saying. All this sudden he knows I'm

795
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:02,639
good with it. Okay, I got somebody to call it instantly.

796
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:04,239
That's the first thing that'll go through my mind. I

797
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,599
got somebody call, he calls me. I come down there.

798
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:08,800
You know what I'm saying. Okay, what's gonna work to Florida?

799
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:10,440
You know what I'm saying, I come down here. What's

800
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,920
the deal man? Look over one hundred thousand and over

801
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,440
one hundred thousand supposedly Tiffany talking about the lady said

802
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,960
they told some kind of condo or some type of

803
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,679
fucking townhouse they had for over ninety nine thousand dollars

804
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:21,960
and shit.

805
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 6: Okay, my answers is peak. I'm ready to get the money.

806
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,559
You know what I'm saying, but I ain't asking I

807
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:27,800
should ask question you know what I'm saying, But I

808
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,760
ain't asking no questions because in my mind, it's like.

809
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,159
Speaker 10: You think you just gonna get some call, get the money,

810
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:33,159
and I'll ask of anything.

811
00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 6: So on, y'all, how do you know Tiffany?

812
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 9: I know Timany because I robbed Tiffany. That's how I

813
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,159
went way back Charleston.

814
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 6: Yeah. Now I met Tiffany, And didn't you tell me

815
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,719
before about taking a cocaine?

816
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:44,079
Speaker 5: Yeah?

817
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 10: I found a box that had I ain't know it

818
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,320
was cocing in Now, it just happened.

819
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 6: You don't have to weeding it money in it. I

820
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,280
just jacked. Oh. I mean that was in Charleston. How

821
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,000
long ago was that in Charleston? May? May? This year? No,

822
00:45:57,159 --> 00:45:58,400
I mean last last year?

823
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: Five?

824
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, because this is what happened. I met Tiffany in May.

825
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,400
I came back. I left Florida in February seventh.

826
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 9: I turned myself back into Berkeley County, did three weeks

827
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,360
in attend center they rent, stayed in my parole in relationship, Yeah,

828
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,079
pretty much. I went from there, uh, stayed out of TRUP.

829
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,079
Everything was fine until the month of May. I met

830
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,480
Tiffany Jack in the hotel the next mo.

831
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 6: When you did that, the name of the hotel, the budget,

832
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:30,440
and a little cheap cheap ass there on International Boulevard

833
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:32,519
on the International you know what the airport is?

834
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:36,599
Speaker 9: Yeah, Internet, you got on Best Western travelizing budget is

835
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:37,679
like the last one back there.

836
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 6: I met her in May.

837
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,559
Speaker 9: Let's see, I hit a link for like probably like

838
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:47,800
fourteen thousand dollars. I ain't hit the link. The dude

839
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,559
gave me the money. But you know what I'm saying,

840
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:51,639
we sorted. I saw it, helped him out with some shit.

841
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,599
He gave me fourteen thousand dollars.

842
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 6: On my car to Island. It was to deal with that.

843
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 9: He just was he seeing with somebody in Basically, I

844
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,119
co the dude. I told the dude. I was like, look,

845
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:02,800
you know what I'm saying.

846
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,639
Speaker 6: I was I'm saying, I know it's bad. You know

847
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:06,480
what I'm saying, man, you know that's what it is.

848
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:07,840
I kind of dude.

849
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,159
Speaker 9: He was like, look, I got Warrington take He's an

850
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,199
older dude. He was a retired senior chief and all

851
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:14,320
this shit. But he had problems. You know what I'm saying.

852
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,119
Speaker 6: He had fun. Then help him out until you got

853
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:18,159
the cash, you know. I told him.

854
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:20,039
Speaker 10: I was like, look, nah, nah, he handed me the

855
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:21,000
money in his way.

856
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 6: I went in my way.

857
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 10: So tell me I didn't steal nothing from what what

858
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,239
he give me the money for?

859
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,159
Speaker 6: He sold his house.

860
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 9: He's he believed I made him believe that I was

861
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,280
a fed right, And then I got.

862
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,639
Speaker 6: I know it sounds what did you tell me? FBI

863
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:41,840
d e A just tell how they are. But nah,

864
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:44,320
he thought you were hunting them or they were hunting them,

865
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,840
and you're gonna let him slide. Man, look at it,

866
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:46,400
touch Dorman.

867
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 9: I got on that computer. I mean, I mean, miracles happened.

868
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,960
I'm talking about. I created Warrens.

869
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I found out, just burnt

870
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,079
him out showing they had ship.

871
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 9: Nah, you can go to what's called it the n

872
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,920
c I thing credit card thirty dollars a month, Ben

873
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:03,039
you can check on yourself anything like. You can get copies.

874
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:04,599
It's it's hard to get into it, but you know

875
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:06,599
what I'm saying. You can get copies, you know, like

876
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:07,920
you said, it'll print out. You can get it with

877
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,239
a scanner. You can create anything.

878
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:11,559
Speaker 6: How long before you met Tiffany?

879
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,039
Speaker 7: Did you?

880
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 6: Did you get him? I knew him at the same

881
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,639
time I met him. That was in May, also April,

882
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,679
or I knew I met Keith in April. Yeah, I

883
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,639
met Keith in April. Got the money June fourteenth.

884
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,679
Speaker 9: So in between April and June fourteenth was the last

885
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,519
day I seen Keith. So and Tiffany happened in May

886
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,360
because that's when we did the That's when I.

887
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 6: Went to the hotel. Because Keith was at the hotel.

888
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:35,800
I made him believe he Look, you gotta go away

889
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,880
from your house for a little while. You know what

890
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,280
I'm saying.

891
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,039
Speaker 9: They're gonna be coming by a liquor for you whatnot.

892
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:40,679
He was in the house and I got a bunch

893
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:44,360
of information on him. Then that was that man. He's like, look,

894
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,239
I'm going back to California. I'm gonna sell my house.

895
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,519
I was like, okay, look, we do whatever I can

896
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:50,000
to help make the warrants go away. You know what

897
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:54,039
I'm saying, whatever shit, Okay, your warrants is gone away.

898
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 6: But you know I'm gonna charge you. I ain't even

899
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,400
come out of her No, give me fourteen thousand dollars,

900
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,000
you know what I'm saying. I like, look, it's gonna

901
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,840
be a substance. A substance amount. He got like she

902
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,239
only got like ninety six thousand dollars for his house

903
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,599
or something.

904
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,039
Speaker 9: He was like, here you go for it. Oooh okay,

905
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,440
you know, I have a good life, you know what

906
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,760
I'm saying. I hope everything works out for you know.

907
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,320
I called Alan down there. And what's weird though, me

908
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,320
and Tiffany actually was cool at that time because I

909
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,039
don't know what it was, but she was like, well,

910
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:20,760
you know what I'm saying.

911
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 10: She got I guess she got attractive by the shoe.

912
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: She liked you.

913
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 6: I robbed the girl or something.

914
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 9: But I'm not gonna like, no motherfucker that steals fucking

915
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,360
eight hundred dollars or some shit for me.

916
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 6: But it's worth though. Man, I'm not feeling like that. Erstus.

917
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,159
So now you call that one up.

918
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,679
Speaker 9: He was down there, come and say, look, man, I'm

919
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,679
about to send you some money. Jump on the train.

920
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,559
You know what I'm saying, Shoot down a charsta. He

921
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:41,400
was like, all right, man, man, send him like two

922
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,880
hundreds and change. He comes down there with shooting murdur

923
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,960
Eas meet him. Her and another girl, black girl, black girl.

924
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,079
Speaker 6: What's her name?

925
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,079
Speaker 10: Ayisha, Keisha? Some ship like that. I don't think it's it's.

926
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 7: Sure, yeah, it's sighted Easha.

927
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,559
Speaker 6: Anyway, that Naisha. That was nice. It's Tiffany's friends. She's

928
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:01,039
from home. He was from New York. She was from

929
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:04,119
New York. Anyway, damn on we go to Murdury. Be's

930
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:06,760
I'm spending money left and right. I mean, haveing fun.

931
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,280
You know what I'm saying. Fucking I ain't got nothing

932
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,639
better than man I'm having a fool and this shit.

933
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 9: Man, anyway, damn do that for about a week, shoot

934
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,039
back down here. I go back to South Carolina, holand

935
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:22,519
goes to Florida. I don't know what the hell really

936
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:24,480
Tiffany's doing. I wasn't really in touch with it like that.

937
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,800
Next time, no boom, Alan calls me up. Hey, I

938
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,840
got another lick? Oh how much like I said one times? Man,

939
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,320
I'm rolling away, bro, I didn't get.

940
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 6: Down here in the car? Which car? Then in the

941
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,679
rental car? Okay, he'll run in the car.

942
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 10: Tiffany run in the car. So she's back up there.

943
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:43,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's in Charleston at the time, I thought she

944
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,400
was down here. And that's why I was confused, cause

945
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,559
so she's in Charleston. When Allen caught you, Yeah, Anna

946
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:49,320
calls me up. I'm like, all right, bet, what's the deal?

947
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,320
I call her?

948
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,519
Speaker 9: She calls me up. We get the rent a car.

949
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:54,920
Who were going down here? Allen comes at me, hands

950
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,360
me a little credit card. It ain't got no name

951
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,920
on it. He was like, look, just go check it out.

952
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,159
Here go the information. He goes this, here goes that.

953
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:02,239
Go pep the shit out. I go peep it out,

954
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,239
and I'm showing them a like thirty thousand dollars on

955
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,960
the account and the savings account that shows like nine

956
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,119
thousand in the checking account. I'm like, I can't do

957
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:11,639
shit with this with then in my mind, I'm like,

958
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,840
I still gonna get whatever I can that's up.

959
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,519
Speaker 6: Before or after they'd already done everything.

960
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 10: This was after this, after this, this the hell, yeah,

961
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,840
it was after ship anyway.

962
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 6: Damn. This was July. He called me Friday. I didn't

963
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,480
hit Florida till shit, it was late. It's late as

964
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:31,360
a month or yeah.

965
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,679
Speaker 10: Matter of fact, check the the what you call it, dum,

966
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,239
what's the ship?

967
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 9: The picture where they got me staying in front of

968
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,760
lit hm and she The first time I did it,

969
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,719
I just met with him within the hour I was

970
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,280
up there, and that by I start checking that damn thing.

971
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,679
That's why I said that time right there. Within within

972
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,559
that hour too, I'll say two hour period.

973
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:51,519
Speaker 6: I just hit Florida. So it's the middle of the night, yeah,

974
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,199
in the morning something like that. And I know the time.

975
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,320
I know it was the middle of the night. That's

976
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,559
all I know. His mom wasn't there.

977
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 9: He told his mom to go stay with her boyfriend

978
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:02,280
and some ship like that, because some dudes are knocking

979
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,840
on Allen's door or some ship like that, and they

980
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,679
were trying to beat his assid he was nervous. I

981
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,079
don't know anyway, Damn hey the card I come back

982
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:12,320
told him the deal. Win got a room over there?

983
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:16,719
What you get a room the hotel by the Dennys war.

984
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,599
Speaker 6: Up behind the Dennis.

985
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:20,519
Speaker 9: Right next to it is you can walk to the

986
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:22,199
Dennis from the park, right, I mean it's right there.

987
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 6: The lobby's right next It's just there's a little on

988
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:27,000
same side of the straight, Yeah, the same side the street.

989
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,840
There's a little detective or gas station and the hotail. Yeah,

990
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,320
there's a cop car right there.

991
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,159
Speaker 9: Ship, there's a cop car right there behind the fence

992
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:36,360
by the lobby and ship like that.

993
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 6: Okay, anyway, damn.

994
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 9: Ship, I was here pretty much get as much money

995
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,400
as possible him, him, Bruce, her, you know what I'm saying. Whatever,

996
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,360
And then coming down to Charleston, we all meet up

997
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,239
meet him and her.

998
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:49,639
Speaker 6: That's when I call.

999
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 10: It, y'all.

1000
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:53,599
Speaker 6: When when that's who on went to Charles? When when

1001
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,639
your Bruce appeared in all this Bruce is there that

1002
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:56,679
night when you get there.

1003
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, Bruce was there that night when me and Tiffany

1004
00:52:58,519 --> 00:53:00,360
got there, Bruce and Allen was there. Bruce Hon was

1005
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,000
at this house. And like I said, okay, I'm taking money.

1006
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:07,239
You know, I hung out when we probably was together. Shit,

1007
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:09,320
I ain't gonna say a week. We was probably together

1008
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,159
a couple of days.

1009
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 7: Next time.

1010
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,199
Speaker 9: I know, we all meeting up in Charlton. But it's

1011
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,320
just me, Tiffany and Allen. We had the best Westering ruins.

1012
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,199
And in her name, how'd y'all get to Charleston separate?

1013
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,400
I was already in Charleston. I was my grandmother when

1014
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,000
he left here.

1015
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 6: After you did the cards and you stayed And how

1016
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,920
long did you stay in the hotel by the Dennis Ship?

1017
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:30,119
Like I think it was just that night.

1018
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 9: Every might have been more than one night, because I

1019
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,320
know we stayed in that hotel. We stayed in the

1020
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,880
one across the street. Like, if you pull out that

1021
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,840
far a lot, you go directly across the street, there's

1022
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:38,519
another hotel.

1023
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 10: Right, there's a little cheap, rinky than Gass hotel.

1024
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,639
Speaker 6: You don't know what I'm talking about, exactly what you's

1025
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:49,000
talking about right across the street. You gotta go across

1026
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,920
across Lane Avenue the other side of the street.

1027
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 10: Ain't talking about the day's end of the verminer now,

1028
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:53,639
ain't talking about them.

1029
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:55,679
Speaker 6: A talking to the north of down Town. You come

1030
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,800
out there on Lane Avenue is the main road right there. Yeah,

1031
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,079
I know that. When you came off Lane Avenue, if

1032
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:04,119
you came from my town, come down Lane Avenue. You

1033
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:06,760
took a left, went around the gas station, past the Dennys,

1034
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,159
and there's the hotel. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But

1035
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:10,639
you'd be out you have to take a right off

1036
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,000
Lane to go to the other hotels. There's no other

1037
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:15,880
hotels on that side. Okay, I'm saying, all of stays

1038
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,960
in Deerfield apartment right.

1039
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,159
Speaker 9: Okay, so you come out Deerfield and you bought a

1040
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,639
right that's going towards the interstate.

1041
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 6: Right, you know what I'm saying.

1042
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 10: The hotel, the first will tell me that it's on

1043
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,039
the right.

1044
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:26,639
Speaker 6: The other one's on the left. That's hom Lane Avenue

1045
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,760
going left. That's old Alley. I don't even know what

1046
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,519
the bowling out there. I don't know Lane Avenue like that.

1047
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:35,280
Only time the two hotels over there. Yeah, cross the

1048
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,199
street from each other. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

1049
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,639
Speaker 9: The Diamonding was right there, and that other hotels right there,

1050
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,360
and then there's a third hotel right there.

1051
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 6: That's why I was asking. Oh, I don't know, I just.

1052
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:44,039
Speaker 4: Know it was.

1053
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 6: I ain't talking about, like I said, the days and

1054
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:47,320
I know the days in the order the other side

1055
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,000
of the interstate. Yeah, I ain't talking about those. Now

1056
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:55,000
there's an executive n uh budget in and Diamond her

1057
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:56,800
Diamond hotel, and it was the Buzzy and it was

1058
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,559
I know, it was a cheap, cheap ass hotel.

1059
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 10: You like you had sliding glass oars and ship then anyway, damn.

1060
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:05,559
Speaker 6: She stayed one two nights in Dominant. You remember the

1061
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:08,159
first hotel. First night I stayed there and then you

1062
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:11,119
moved to the other hotel. Nah, actually ship I stayed.

1063
00:55:12,039 --> 00:55:18,519
I stayed with Allen h stayed at the Comfort in

1064
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:22,719
at the beach, Okay.

1065
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,199
Speaker 9: But then you hit hit and you did all that cramp.

1066
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,480
You stayed at the Holiday Inn at and what's the

1067
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,480
ship called. I know there's a waffle house right beside it.

1068
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:35,000
I don't know, like I know, it's a bunch of

1069
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:37,440
rich people to live around there. It's offered. It's off

1070
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,920
the interstate. There's an embassy suite trad there.

1071
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,119
Speaker 6: How j T b on know what j TV is

1072
00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:46,480
Turner Butler or somewhere down there. I know you gotta

1073
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,480
I got a night's only one way. There's only one

1074
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,320
way in and one way out. I think I know

1075
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,280
what you're talking about on money. So now you stayed

1076
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,840
at all these places, and you said you go back

1077
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,719
to Charles. Yeah, What's like, how do you get back

1078
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,760
to Charleston? The reason we went back to Charleston was

1079
00:55:58,159 --> 00:55:59,480
you get back to you said, you met up and

1080
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,960
you got me. Tiffany came back to Charleston. What happened?

1081
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:03,880
Alan and Bruce? Allan and Bruce was here.

1082
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 9: Ala went to his house and Bruce we dropped Bruce

1083
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,119
off in Bigger County. Bruce was like, I gotta go

1084
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,400
people to be people to be asking questions.

1085
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:13,079
Speaker 6: When did you drop Bruce off from Baker? I mean,

1086
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:14,960
was it with you the whole time in all these hotels?

1087
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 5: No?

1088
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,639
Speaker 6: No hell on the Bruce Bruce. I mean what Bruce

1089
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:22,280
stayed with us at the night that I got on

1090
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,639
the night that I came there and got the credit card?

1091
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 2: Was that them hold up ship even before that, man,

1092
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:35,920
I mean after that, Bruce stay with this at they're

1093
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,000
really cheap ass hotel.

1094
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 9: And he didn't stay with us at that the first hotel,

1095
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,519
but he was like there for like whatever. But he

1096
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,280
I mean, but he didn't stay there because him, he

1097
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,199
stayed at Allen's. Us.

1098
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 6: Bruce was with us from the all also that the

1099
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,440
first night, not the first night, the first I tell

1100
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,880
about Daddy's who all stayed there? You and Tiffany, Yeah, me,

1101
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,679
Tiffany and Allen and Alan Tiffany And I don't.

1102
00:56:56,519 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 10: Even know if he stayed there because I think he

1103
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,280
went home too, because he.

1104
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,519
Speaker 6: Was like right there. I just remember he was down.

1105
00:57:01,519 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 9: I remember he was there like whatever, but I mean

1106
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,599
gives from Baker County, yeah, right, and then and then

1107
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:09,920
we dropped out and off and then me and her

1108
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:10,480
shot back here.

1109
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 6: What'd you dropped off the house state? He stayed in Diffield,

1110
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,719
Christ and you shot back to South Carolina just you

1111
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,400
and Tiffany. Yeah, nobody else. I got the Minster, she

1112
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,199
got the Luman. You know what I'm saying. She's telling me.

1113
00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:22,480
So she got two cars down there.

1114
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, she already had her she had her car. Now

1115
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:27,920
her car was that it was a green Lubla when

1116
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,000
the Mazda was the g real car.

1117
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:31,079
Speaker 6: Now, right, So I got the Masda. You know what

1118
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:32,440
I'm saying. I'm driving the mas and ship.

1119
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:35,679
Speaker 9: She's got the luman pretty much, this, this and that

1120
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,000
the third to ride a car that you mean?

1121
00:57:38,039 --> 00:57:40,079
Speaker 7: Why the car She's already got a Lumina.

1122
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,199
Speaker 6: Oh no, we were ready the car on. But you came

1123
00:57:43,239 --> 00:57:46,000
down together in the car, didn't it. Yeah, that's what

1124
00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:47,400
I'm saying. She was like, look, we gonna wreck the

1125
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,000
car and we're gonna go down there. So where'd the

1126
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:52,280
Luna come from? That's her car she going for? How

1127
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,519
to get she had them allud, that's my question? How

1128
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:57,719
to get to Florida with? Yeah, you said got him

1129
00:57:57,719 --> 00:58:01,000
till they rode down together and the Mansda that. But

1130
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:03,039
you said when you run back, you took the Monster

1131
00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:04,039
and she took the Loop. Yeah.

1132
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:06,159
Speaker 9: She we me and her came back to Charleston together.

1133
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:08,280
I took the Monster and went away and she got

1134
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:08,559
the Loop.

1135
00:58:08,639 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 6: Then when you left Florida, you FoST left in the monster. Yeah,

1136
00:58:11,679 --> 00:58:13,639
that was what you just spent. It sound like you

1137
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:16,679
took the Monster back to Charleston. I wonder where when

1138
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:19,119
it came from. Yeah, because the loop the luminer was

1139
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:21,440
that her brother was driving Charleston the whole time, right,

1140
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:23,280
her brother was driving them home. So you and she

1141
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:26,519
go back in the monster. Then when you get to Charleston.

1142
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 9: I got to take the monsters, because she kept mentioning

1143
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,920
about I gotta take you back. I gotta take about like, look,

1144
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:30,719
I'm don'ta pay for it.

1145
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 6: I don't worry about this word don't pay for it.

1146
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,000
But that's a good line anyway. You just jumping off,

1147
00:58:37,239 --> 00:58:43,119
So what you do with it? Damn? She was like,

1148
00:58:43,159 --> 00:58:46,840
look told us now. She was like she was like

1149
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:47,360
she called me.

1150
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 9: She was like, no, Alan called me. They was like,

1151
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,239
Ala was like, look, I'm in Charleston. I don't get

1152
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:52,679
the Charleston.

1153
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 6: He was like, I'm up here with Tiffany and Ship.

1154
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:56,519
I was like where Bruce had. It's like, Bruce back

1155
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:58,400
and make your county shit. I was like, okay.

1156
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 9: He was like, look needs more money. No, he was

1157
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,559
like the card is fucked up. That's what he told me.

1158
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:05,559
And that's when I called y'all. And that's when really

1159
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:08,519
the whole shit came to play, and I was like, Okay,

1160
00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:10,239
I was like, gonna tell Tiffany to get a room,

1161
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:11,400
and it was hard to get a room with some

1162
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:12,159
bullshit like that.

1163
00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 6: I don't remember you got the rooms. I get there

1164
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,519
and that's when it was like bam. He handed me

1165
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:18,760
the car and shit and he was like, look, we

1166
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,280
try to car, try depend up it.

1167
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 5: It wouldn't work.

1168
00:59:21,239 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 6: I was like, fuck so them no.

1169
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 9: That's when he was like Dante called. That's when he

1170
00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:28,679
told me. He was like, look, shit fucked up. And

1171
00:59:28,719 --> 00:59:30,480
I was like what do you mean? And that's when

1172
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:32,159
the whole shit came about the fucking people. I was like,

1173
00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:34,280
what do you mean about the people? And he was like, look,

1174
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:37,000
fuck them, situation. I need to help you get out

1175
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:37,199
the shit.

1176
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:38,039
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. And I was like, what

1177
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:40,119
do you mean? He was like, the car don't work.

1178
00:59:40,159 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 7: No more.

1179
00:59:40,519 --> 00:59:42,599
Speaker 9: Police already go about the people and shit they talking

1180
00:59:42,639 --> 00:59:45,800
about uh Dante's mom, police stuff been up there. They

1181
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,599
didn't see in the car from a helicopter and shit.

1182
00:59:47,679 --> 00:59:49,719
I'm like, slow, damn man, what are you talking about?

1183
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,960
And that's when the whole shit happened about the people.

1184
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,280
And I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna help you

1185
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,599
out that's the first thing that came to mind. You

1186
00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:57,960
know what I'm saying, I gonna help you out, get

1187
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,639
the fuck the situation. I'm gonna help you out what happened.

1188
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:02,280
That's when he breaks the shit down to me, tells

1189
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,719
me about burying the people. You know what I'm saying.

1190
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,559
Him and Bruce stunted out the whole the ship was

1191
01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:07,559
Tiffany basically, like I said, the ship is Tiffany's on

1192
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,679
you know what I'm saying, And the ship went from there.

1193
01:00:09,719 --> 01:00:11,719
Speaker 6: Alan knew I could get there with that car. You

1194
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,480
know what I'm saying. I told Alan, I ain't a

1195
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:14,800
lot to you in the beginning. I asked him.

1196
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,519
Speaker 9: I was like, why didn't you just tell me about

1197
01:00:16,519 --> 01:00:17,920
the murder? Why didn't you ask me to help you

1198
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,000
with the murder? You know what I'm saying, Because I mean,

1199
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:21,599
you know how shit is. Shit's fucked up.

1200
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 6: You can't trust nobody, man. But you went down there

1201
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,000
to help me with the lick initially, didn't you.

1202
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:28,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, But stealing some money is a bit different from

1203
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,360
killing two fucking people.

1204
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,079
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1205
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 9: I told you all this, man, And look, I don't

1206
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,079
care if you quote me I'll say this into in

1207
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:34,840
front of the judge.

1208
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 6: Man, and this is serious shit.

1209
01:00:36,679 --> 01:00:38,599
Speaker 9: If I kill them people, man, I wouldn't have no where,

1210
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:39,880
I wouldn't have no co defendits.

1211
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,039
Speaker 7: Man.

1212
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,199
Speaker 6: I mean, my grandmother, is, my uncles, everybody just taught me.

1213
01:00:44,639 --> 01:00:48,079
But man, murder is the easiest, easiest charge in the

1214
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:50,000
world to get away with, you know what I'm saying.

1215
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 7: Not in your case, No, he'll feel what I'm saying.

1216
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,119
Speaker 6: Though.

1217
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:54,199
Speaker 9: It's one of the easiest things to get away with though,

1218
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,199
you know what I'm saying, But it's one of the

1219
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,119
hardest things to do.

1220
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. That's that's when people fuck up.

1221
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,840
I don't think it's too easy to get away with

1222
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,760
it either. The perfect crime isn't one nobody knows about it.

1223
01:01:03,239 --> 01:01:05,199
Speaker 10: Well, look at all the unsolved murders that are in

1224
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:06,960
this world. That's because one mother did it.

1225
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,039
Speaker 6: Look at all the solved murders that there in this world.

1226
01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:11,360
I don't know it. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes

1227
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,519
it's just one person that don't make any damn difference.

1228
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 9: But that's a stupid motherfucker though, you know what I'm saying,

1229
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,920
that's a probably nine out of ten is a person

1230
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:17,800
that didn't.

1231
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,599
Speaker 6: It wasn't premeditative murder. I'll put it that way. This

1232
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:21,679
wasn't pre meditated.

1233
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,679
Speaker 9: No, I'm saying about if a person that usually nine

1234
01:01:23,719 --> 01:01:25,880
oft of ten gets caught, I'm pretty sure it ain't premeditated.

1235
01:01:27,079 --> 01:01:29,559
Speaker 10: The person's gonna sit there and plan think acted out.

1236
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 6: Come on, man, you're gonna literally go through your brain.

1237
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 10: Okay, I gotta do this. I'm smart enough to know

1238
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,039
how to do this.

1239
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 6: Come on, They probatically put it on TV how to

1240
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,159
get away with anything these days.

1241
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:37,519
Speaker 4: You.

1242
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta be honest with you. You're one of

1243
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,719
the best storytellers I've ever heard in my life.

1244
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:42,519
Speaker 3: You know.

1245
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 6: But but but you're spending stories to me. Man. That's

1246
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:46,719
why I say.

1247
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,599
Speaker 12: I mean, it's there like a I can camp fire

1248
01:01:49,719 --> 01:01:51,480
or something in the jail. If that everybody gets around

1249
01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:53,360
the night and listens to you spend stories because you're

1250
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:53,960
good man.

1251
01:01:54,719 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 4: Like I said, full of it.

1252
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 6: But you're good. Listen. I got told you from the beginning.

1253
01:01:58,800 --> 01:01:59,840
I fucked up. You know what I'm saying.

1254
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,159
Speaker 9: Saying thing I told my grandma. My grandmother asked, why

1255
01:02:02,239 --> 01:02:04,320
did you do that? It wasn't the simple fact that

1256
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,079
you know what I'm saying.

1257
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:08,079
Speaker 6: Okay, what why don't we go back to to to

1258
01:02:08,159 --> 01:02:11,239
the first story you told us, which is, oddly enough,

1259
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,679
I remember everything I told oddly enough mine, that's the

1260
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:17,840
one I believe. Okay, because that's the first one you're

1261
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,599
gonna read. Because okay, you know now, I mean out

1262
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:22,440
in the room, let phrase that. The beginning of the

1263
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,320
story you told us that night was total crap. Okay,

1264
01:02:25,639 --> 01:02:27,719
the beginning. I don't know nothing about it. Nothing. You

1265
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,039
didn't call anybody. I don't I would never call the

1266
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:33,440
freaking police. You think I'm stupid, Well, I spoke to you.

1267
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,440
You want to hear it on tape? Okay, Yeah, I

1268
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,760
called the police. Okay, Yeah, I mean we went around

1269
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,079
and around around, and you kept kind of sort of

1270
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:42,159
remembering that. Okay, Yeah, okay, we got you on that one.

1271
01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:43,480
So I'll go ahead and come clean on that.

1272
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 9: And that's what I just told you though. I told

1273
01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:46,400
him I would help him out. And that's when I

1274
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:46,960
called y'all.

1275
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1276
01:02:48,039 --> 01:02:48,599
Speaker 10: I called y'all.

1277
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,719
Speaker 6: Okay, I don't even know how to sell man.

1278
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,519
Speaker 12: So you send her tell us, tell us and expect

1279
01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:55,000
us to believe that after Alan Waite's this here and

1280
01:02:55,039 --> 01:02:58,480
tells you that that he and Bruce killed this old couple. Bruce,

1281
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:01,199
I mean Alan somehow makes it back to Charleston, comes

1282
01:03:01,199 --> 01:03:04,639
and talks to you, admits everything, and then and then

1283
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:10,639
gives you gives it, gets back, gives you the card back,

1284
01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:14,599
and then and talk and and and pretend to be

1285
01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:15,239
the dead guy. No.

1286
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,719
Speaker 9: See, he gave me the card because I was like, Okay,

1287
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,719
I'm gonna either get on the phone, I'm gonna get

1288
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:21,159
on the internet. I'm gonna try to do something to

1289
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:22,920
open the card up, you know what I'm saying, to

1290
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:23,440
get the money.

1291
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 10: That's how it richen. He didn't tell me, hey, we

1292
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,320
just killed two people.

1293
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:31,239
Speaker 6: Here, get this card open for you.

1294
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,039
Speaker 9: What I'm saying in the beginning, he didn't say he

1295
01:03:33,159 --> 01:03:34,800
goes the card you know what I'm saying. Or no,

1296
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,519
he didn't say we killed two people. Get the card on.

1297
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:38,360
It was get the card on. This is how this

1298
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:38,880
is what happened.

1299
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 6: Doesn't lost your mind?

1300
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,119
Speaker 4: You know, I lose the mind.

1301
01:03:41,239 --> 01:03:44,559
Speaker 6: Everybody else's story don't match nothing to you. That who

1302
01:03:44,719 --> 01:03:46,360
I ain't got nothing to do with. Everybody was this lord,

1303
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,840
here's your problem. You do have everything to do with

1304
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,639
that and your story you just told us interesting as

1305
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:53,599
it was, it's crap and I can prove it.

1306
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 5: Well.

1307
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 6: First of all, you Alan and Tiffany went together and

1308
01:03:57,559 --> 01:04:00,679
the Silver Monster back to Charleston. Okay, well though splitting

1309
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,039
up none of the ship. You want to see the

1310
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:05,159
video from you guys at the Endmark gas station and

1311
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:07,480
pull Or Georgia when he stopped for gas on your

1312
01:04:07,559 --> 01:04:09,280
return trip. Where are you?

1313
01:04:09,719 --> 01:04:11,039
Speaker 10: We went back and forth to Florida and saw it

1314
01:04:11,079 --> 01:04:11,920
was about ten times.

1315
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 6: No, no, I, this was the day of you can

1316
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,039
admit es is the day before you were caught using

1317
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:22,840
the victims card. I have all of that on video

1318
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,719
and it didn't work. That's right, But you three her

1319
01:04:25,719 --> 01:04:29,239
together on your return trip, ain't. No Alan suddenly shows

1320
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:34,079
up bullshit? Okay, he rode with you up there. You

1321
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:35,599
you can't even look me in the eye and tell

1322
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:37,519
me that. Now, listen, you're right. He rolled with it.

1323
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 10: But like I said, he was up there fifty times.

1324
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 6: He was stopped talking with you up and down he

1325
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,800
screw around me. Now he could be up there fifty times,

1326
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,800
he wasn't up and down there fifty times in the

1327
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,840
Master with the victim's card after they were dead. Okay,

1328
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,199
because you didn't have that kind of time. Okay. The

1329
01:04:52,239 --> 01:04:55,039
first time we talked to you, Okay, the first time

1330
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:58,039
we talked to you, which you meaning night Tuesday night

1331
01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:00,639
around the little left well was close to midnight. No,

1332
01:05:00,679 --> 01:05:03,360
it was close to midnight that I spoke to you. Okay.

1333
01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:10,039
That was the first time I spoke to you. Okay, Wednesday, Okay, Wednesday,

1334
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:12,599
we already had the full history of where you've been

1335
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:15,960
with that car, okay, and then Thursday and then got

1336
01:05:16,039 --> 01:05:19,199
arrested in Charleston. Okay. You didn't have time to go back

1337
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:20,880
and forth. I'm back and forth like you're trying to

1338
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,280
sell me. Okay, you just went back up there because

1339
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,079
in between that time we got the rental car, we

1340
01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:29,079
got all kinds of crap. Okay, we have you are Italian.

1341
01:05:29,239 --> 01:05:30,639
Tuesday was hard up there.

1342
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 9: The rental car was put there Tuesday and Wednesday night,

1343
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,639
the day before we got arrested. No, Tuesday night, the

1344
01:05:37,719 --> 01:05:39,679
night I went to that hotel when I met all them,

1345
01:05:39,719 --> 01:05:41,400
when I went went to them and the Best Western,

1346
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,599
that rental car was dropped off right there inside the

1347
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:45,320
Home Enterprise.

1348
01:05:46,039 --> 01:05:47,719
Speaker 6: When you picked up the Lumina and you all left

1349
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,679
in the together, you Tim for me and Allen. That's

1350
01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:51,159
what I'm saying.

1351
01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 10: That's the same night that we was at the hotel

1352
01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:54,000
the Tuesday night.

1353
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 6: You know, about twenty minutes ago. You told me that

1354
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,320
you Tiffany went up there together, and somehow I just

1355
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,440
showed up and called to you and said, I need your.

1356
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,679
Speaker 7: Help, I need money, I need your help.

1357
01:06:03,719 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 6: Okay, that's bullshit. He went with you and the freaking

1358
01:06:06,519 --> 01:06:08,760
Mazda from Florida to Charleston. It was with you the

1359
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,280
entire time win them.

1360
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 9: You know.

1361
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,519
Speaker 6: I'm say let me, let me put this real simply. Okay,

1362
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,119
After you all went to the people's house and took

1363
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:20,760
them with leg and took them to Baker County, Okay,

1364
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,519
and buried them alive in a fucking hole, and then

1365
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:26,639
went and hit the ATM machine and went to the hotel. Okay.

1366
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:32,320
After you did all that stuff, Okay, then y'all stopped

1367
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,960
in Georgia on the way to Charleston. Then you'll get

1368
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,920
to Charleston, and I've got all your little ATM videos

1369
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,440
and attempts to use the card all the way along

1370
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:40,760
the way.

1371
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 13: The store has an excellent video. By the way, I

1372
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,880
watched Mazda pull up. Watch all you three jokers get

1373
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,719
out of the Mazda okay, and go in the store.

1374
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,920
So at no separate cars he met us.

1375
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 6: Crap. Okay, you gotta think of a new story, because

1376
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,159
that's when they'm working for me. Now this is even better. Okay,

1377
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,599
consider them. You didn't get there till what three am

1378
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,960
something like that, and you immediately went and you see

1379
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,599
a ATM machine. That's what I did.

1380
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:05,119
Speaker 7: Then.

1381
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 6: It's really really hard for me to have you on

1382
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:11,920
video in the Walmart and normally Boulevard before that. Real difficult,

1383
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,400
isn't it? At the Walmart? At the Walmart on video

1384
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,719
you and Tiffany okay and Alan for that matter. Oh

1385
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,800
I got so much crap. You were so freaking buried.

1386
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,960
You don't even know. It's what I'm saying. You said

1387
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:27,320
on the night, the night that the people got killed.

1388
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,079
I'm at the Walmart. You have the Walmart.

1389
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 10: Who man, look at you?

1390
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 7: Oh wow, another bombshell.

1391
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 6: Let me say, you know all that stuff you can

1392
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,400
do because you get on the computer. Guess what.

1393
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:39,159
Speaker 9: When was I supposedly at the Walmer at the time

1394
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:40,400
for a day supposedly.

1395
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 6: I actually on video at the Walmart. Okay that day,

1396
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:49,760
that Tuesday, that and Tuesday. Shit, that's try Friday.

1397
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:52,199
Speaker 9: Okay to Friday. That Friday, I was at that Walmart.

1398
01:07:52,199 --> 01:07:55,320
They gotta be on video on video before I use

1399
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,119
the card, after.

1400
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,559
Speaker 6: I use the card before. Man, I got to see that.

1401
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,719
I got to will exhibit. It's gonna be like nine

1402
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,320
seventy six with your your your mud on it that

1403
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,519
we get the show when we go to court. I

1404
01:08:09,559 --> 01:08:10,400
got to see that one.

1405
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, the lawyer ain't.

1406
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 6: Sharing all this with you. A lot of people about

1407
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,880
to get a new lawyer. Man, your people, because I

1408
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,560
don't know whatever it is doing. I got news for you.

1409
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,880
Your attorney that you have now, it's a good attorney.

1410
01:08:21,159 --> 01:08:23,239
We gotta get Bill severy to whoever fun that is.

1411
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,439
They said it. Damn, he's he's supposed to be good.

1412
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,640
Please send him to speak to me. I'm just saying,

1413
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,319
that's what. Damn.

1414
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 9: Because Rigimon, I ain't got no there's been eight months.

1415
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,039
I ain't got no copies of discovery. I don't know

1416
01:08:34,119 --> 01:08:35,960
what's going on. Man, They've been to see me one

1417
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,439
time in eight months. Well, I don't know what's going

1418
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,119
on man, who wait, damn writing y'all trying to figure us.

1419
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,359
Speaker 6: Well, you're right, I was hoping, will tell you something

1420
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:48,840
that's entertaining. Okay, it is, and we're enjoying our conversation.

1421
01:08:49,079 --> 01:08:49,600
Get to catch you.

1422
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:52,319
Speaker 7: It's good for a chop you want to you.

1423
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:56,319
Speaker 6: Need to write stories, okay, because you're good. Good. I'm trying.

1424
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,039
But you're right, you're trying to get your ass out

1425
01:08:58,079 --> 01:09:01,439
of the crack. I mean, don't tell mebody you stood

1426
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,560
there while it happened. I believe you didn't do it.

1427
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 5: I know you were.

1428
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,159
Speaker 6: Standing there watching them be buried alive. I know you

1429
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:12,479
were standing there very lashlight while they did it. Who

1430
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,119
in the right mind would say that and make you

1431
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:16,439
that ship up? You know what I'd say if I

1432
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:23,359
was like myself, wasn't another freaking state way California? Yeah, exactly,

1433
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,359
except you know the video on the Walmart would prove

1434
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:27,800
if you want California. So we're not gonna worry about that.

1435
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,680
The best thing you can he was to tell me

1436
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,840
the truth instead of scrunting around with this crowd. I mean,

1437
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,920
you already are should happen, whether you knew what was

1438
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,000
gonna happen or not okay, okay, what it is?

1439
01:09:40,039 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 9: So for what I'm meaning, so right now, though you

1440
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,720
know what I'm saying, I'm a little confused because it's

1441
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,239
like I ain't necessarily saying I'm confused, but okay, if

1442
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:49,079
you telling me, ain't telling me. It's like I don't

1443
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:51,600
heard this, this and that third you know what I'm

1444
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,439
saying from each person, I'm like, okay, that's how I

1445
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,640
don't know what you're saying. I'm talking about as far

1446
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,760
as Bruce saying this, Ali saying is the actually Alan,

1447
01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:59,079
I ain't.

1448
01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:01,079
Speaker 6: From what I heard, Alan said nothing about nothing yet.

1449
01:10:01,359 --> 01:10:03,920
So the girl saying this, and it's like I'm not

1450
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:04,520
asking a little.

1451
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,319
Speaker 9: I was like, well let me let me work with him.

1452
01:10:06,319 --> 01:10:07,560
You know what I'm saying, Let's see what we can do.

1453
01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:09,960
And he's talking about, well, they ain't trying to do nothing.

1454
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,960
They're trying to need elandatory life with a deathfinity.

1455
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,319
Speaker 4: I'm like, what hold.

1456
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:15,279
Speaker 6: Up, man, I ain't kill nobody. Man, Okay, if I

1457
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:17,960
knew about it, if I did anything, I ain't kill nobody.

1458
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,520
You know what I'm saying. I don't. I ain't get

1459
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,239
that need to stop screwing around and tell us the

1460
01:10:22,279 --> 01:10:25,920
whole truth. Okay, I know you were there, Michael, listen

1461
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,439
to me, living finished? Okay, do that exit? Did I

1462
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,800
did you know what's gonna happen? I don't know.

1463
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 5: I do.

1464
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 6: I know you were there? Yeah, I know you were there.

1465
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 9: That DNA shit that should approve if it's like, okay,

1466
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,760
no DNA is at that, that'll prove I wasn't there?

1467
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 7: Right?

1468
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:40,399
Speaker 5: No?

1469
01:10:41,039 --> 01:10:42,399
Speaker 6: What can if? What? What do I need to prove

1470
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:44,920
that I wasn't there? Okay? What do I need to

1471
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,760
prove that I wasn't at that place while then people

1472
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:48,399
were being batter.

1473
01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 7: That's up to you. If you weren't there, then for

1474
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,239
show some proof that you weren't what?

1475
01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 6: What do I need? That's what I'm to tell me.

1476
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 8: If you weren't there, you should be. You should be

1477
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,880
able to prove that the easy okay. And what y'all

1478
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,680
gonna do? Y'all gonna turn around. See, we got this

1479
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,159
whole bunch of shit. You know they have to still

1480
01:11:03,159 --> 01:11:03,880
can tie you in it.

1481
01:11:05,159 --> 01:11:08,239
Speaker 7: You tell me you know you in it.

1482
01:11:08,279 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 6: You're fucking in it.

1483
01:11:09,079 --> 01:11:10,399
Speaker 7: You're facing capital.

1484
01:11:11,159 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 6: You can sit here and try and spin it however

1485
01:11:13,039 --> 01:11:15,800
you want, Okay, And I can understand God knows, I'm

1486
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,039
not in your position. I'm glad, I'm not, okay, but

1487
01:11:18,119 --> 01:11:20,520
I can understand wanting to make me believe that you

1488
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,960
weren't there. But it ain't gonna happen. Okay, I've been

1489
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,039
doing this for too long. I have too much evidence,

1490
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:29,279
way too much evidence for me to ever believe that

1491
01:11:29,359 --> 01:11:34,720
you weren't there. Okay, I will never believe evidence there

1492
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,640
if you're there holding the light and you know you

1493
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,960
think they're just strolling around. Okay, but you gotta tell

1494
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,760
me that ship. If if Alan did something specifically, you

1495
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,039
need to tell me something then instead of you know,

1496
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:46,600
in such and such as said something something, and if

1497
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:52,680
if Brouce did something specific specific now what you saw specifically?

1498
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,560
What you saw? I mean, did you see some you know,

1499
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,520
did you see Tiffany pick up a shovel and away

1500
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,680
lay these old people? Or did you see Alan do

1501
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,079
something them specifically? Or did you see Bruised do something

1502
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:05,680
specifically you know, exact action that they did where you're

1503
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,520
standing there going holy shit, this is going bad. I mean,

1504
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,600
what what's going on at that time? Because I'll be astraving.

1505
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,520
I ain't never gonna be lave you weren't there, Okay,

1506
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,399
because we got way, We're way past that way. There's

1507
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,279
evidence that can improve I was there. There's evidence that's

1508
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:22,880
got you in a world problems right now.

1509
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,399
Speaker 9: I mean I know that I don't deny it, you

1510
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:25,920
know what I'm saying. But is there evidence that improve

1511
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,199
I was there? That's what I'm saying.

1512
01:12:27,399 --> 01:12:31,520
Speaker 6: You have having approves you're not? Who do you have

1513
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,159
evidence to prove you're not there? Keep talking about some

1514
01:12:34,399 --> 01:12:37,840
friend or some sort of doctor or something. I'm gonna

1515
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,600
show me anything anything You have yet to give me

1516
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,840
anything or any reason for me to be because everything

1517
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,760
you told me, then you know that you want me

1518
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,640
to believe other things. I can prove that you're lying. Okay,

1519
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,039
So here's your problem. Now, you told one hundred and

1520
01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:53,399
ten lies. Why the hell am I going to believe

1521
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:54,800
the next thing that comes out of your mouth?

1522
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:55,279
Speaker 7: Of course?

1523
01:12:55,359 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 6: Okay? And I'm not doing that. I didn't I didn't

1524
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,479
put any words in your mouth. I didn't ask you

1525
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,319
to tell me anything. All I've asked you for is

1526
01:13:02,319 --> 01:13:06,039
the truth from the freaking beginning. Tell me the truth, okay,

1527
01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:09,119
the exact truth. That's all I've ever asked for. That's

1528
01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:11,520
all I want in this. Okay. If you went down

1529
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,079
there for a lick, You went down there for a lick. Okay. Now,

1530
01:13:14,119 --> 01:13:16,319
if you didn't know shit was gonna carry it out far,

1531
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,199
you didn't know. Now when you get there and shit's

1532
01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:20,680
happening and something's going through your minds, and I need

1533
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,119
to know about that shit too, Okay. If you know

1534
01:13:23,239 --> 01:13:25,079
what was talked about or what was planned, I need

1535
01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:27,399
to know about that stuff, Okay, because the only thing

1536
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,880
right now that that we don't have is the one

1537
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,920
hundred percent truth. Okay, But I've got about why. I've

1538
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,520
got more than enough to put it all together. You know,

1539
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,159
when I've got you know. I mean, we'll just start

1540
01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:43,039
with your your repeated use of the ATM card and

1541
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:47,239
understanding that at nearly every attempt you made, whether you

1542
01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:50,159
got cash or not, I have you on video. So

1543
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,800
that's a beautiful timeline to put you in different places

1544
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,640
at different times, which can prove that you worn't in

1545
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,960
other places at certain times. Now we'll just go from

1546
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,000
there to the rental car. Okay, rental car had GPS

1547
01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:03,880
on it, so that puts you in certain places at

1548
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:04,399
certain times.

1549
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,279
Speaker 9: In the rental car, that puts the car there though.

1550
01:14:07,239 --> 01:14:08,680
I mean, okay, let's look at it like this.

1551
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,119
Speaker 6: I guess what doest thrust of the people you're with

1552
01:14:11,319 --> 01:14:13,239
put you there? Okay?

1553
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 9: Yea damn.

1554
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,279
Speaker 6: I mean that's like, okay, it's like me and you

1555
01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:17,960
committed crime. Oh he did it, No, he did.

1556
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 12: But you're gonna accuse me of committing a crime with you.

1557
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,000
I'm gonna say, if where was I with when this

1558
01:14:22,039 --> 01:14:23,159
crime is supposed to be committed?

1559
01:14:23,399 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 6: You said, bullshit, I was like a little champ, a

1560
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,760
little burg road. Go check the video. You can't give

1561
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,319
us nothing like that, okay, because it wasn't It wasn't.

1562
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 9: There.

1563
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 6: You already told us you were there. Everybody else told

1564
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,399
us you were there. So okay, well right now, I mean,

1565
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,560
you can think of stories all day, but it ain't

1566
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:40,359
gonna help.

1567
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying. So right now, the only thing

1568
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:43,039
I don't.

1569
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,239
Speaker 6: Know is the only thing I don't know is you know,

1570
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,880
were you taking part in putting those people in the

1571
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,960
ground or where you standing there? Going this is fucked up.

1572
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,600
That's the only thing I don't know. Okay, that's the

1573
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,920
only thing I don't know about this whole scenario. And

1574
01:14:55,000 --> 01:15:06,279
I don't know exactly. You know, if the smart yeah

1575
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:08,560
what the satellite receiver had a little smart cards, you

1576
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,560
can get free video and stuff off of put in

1577
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,479
another card that was missing out of the victim's house

1578
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,720
from you know earlier. That's not here there, you know,

1579
01:15:16,399 --> 01:15:18,359
you know, and then we'll just go okay, just just

1580
01:15:18,399 --> 01:15:20,760
go to the next level. You're the computer guy, right,

1581
01:15:21,279 --> 01:15:22,640
You're the one who knows how to do that shit.

1582
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,600
You're smart enough to do it right now and play games.

1583
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,439
I mean, I know you can work that shit, Okay.

1584
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,479
I also know that Tiffany ain't smart enough to do it, okay,

1585
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,479
and I'm damned out in my mind she couldn't do

1586
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,199
it if she wanted to. You know, I'm not lying

1587
01:15:35,039 --> 01:15:38,279
bright Okay. And then we got Alan. Alan knew how

1588
01:15:38,279 --> 01:15:40,640
to do it, he wouldn't be calling you to do it, Okay.

1589
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,079
Speaker 7: It's not exactly Rockets.

1590
01:15:42,199 --> 01:15:45,079
Speaker 6: Obviously, you're the one that has the computer knowledge. Okay.

1591
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:46,840
You're the one smart enough to find that shit on

1592
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,359
the computer and take care of it. You told us

1593
01:15:48,399 --> 01:15:49,920
that yourself, that's why they brought it to you to

1594
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,880
take care of Okay, you go through all that shit.

1595
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,119
You're the only one that's gonna be smart enough to

1596
01:15:55,119 --> 01:15:57,680
take all the freaking bank records out of the house,

1597
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:01,000
all the insurance information to rattle off ship to me

1598
01:16:01,039 --> 01:16:03,760
on the phone like such a security numbers address. You

1599
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,520
tried to bullship me on the dog's name, but you

1600
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,039
screwed that up. Okay, I mean you came up with

1601
01:16:08,119 --> 01:16:11,800
all kinds of crowd but it was wrong. Okay, you

1602
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,920
buried yourself. You're already buried. Okay, and you did it.

1603
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,520
I didn't do it, now, I give it. Yeah, Okay.

1604
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,439
I did my homework before I came to see you. Okay,

1605
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,560
the first time in Charleston, I knew everything about you. Man,

1606
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,920
What about what do you mean about? There's nothing to

1607
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,920
know about me. I'm not a bad person. I don't

1608
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,920
have no value. You weren't a bad person. I mean

1609
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,520
you taken it for fourteen grand claiming you are us Marshall.

1610
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,439
You might rob me of my dope from my shit

1611
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,720
in my box, but you know that that'd be different.

1612
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,479
But you know that if that, if that, if you

1613
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,439
define that as not being a bad person, then okay, okay,

1614
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,119
but we're on a different level now because I get

1615
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:48,000
dead people. I give what you're saying. But I ain't

1616
01:16:48,079 --> 01:16:49,760
take no wady for the money. That man gave me

1617
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,840
that money, I'm not gonna refuse it. Did you not

1618
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,960
bullshit him into thinking he had warrants as you just

1619
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,920
explained to me you could do on the computer. He's

1620
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,520
got your hell out of town and you were helping

1621
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,720
him out, so he just gave you the money. I

1622
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:01,720
had to bands everything.

1623
01:17:02,279 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 7: Oh, you know, Michael went.

1624
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,039
Speaker 12: When we talked that night in Charleston, we talked about that,

1625
01:17:06,119 --> 01:17:08,119
and I said, you know, why didn't you interfere or

1626
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:10,159
stop them in any way when they were burying these

1627
01:17:10,199 --> 01:17:13,199
people alive? And you said, because you know up in

1628
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:15,039
New York you can get you know, you know, you

1629
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:16,560
know you could be the next one. I see, you know,

1630
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,239
don't you have a conscience? And you told me you

1631
01:17:19,239 --> 01:17:21,039
did have a conscience. I said, for that very action

1632
01:17:21,119 --> 01:17:23,640
of not interfering on that is not having a conscience.

1633
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,039
Speaker 6: It's a definition of not having a conscience, is what

1634
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:30,680
he said. That's not man, there's too many definitions for conscience.

1635
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:38,520
M Okay. So I mean I'm here as trade with it, Michael.

1636
01:17:39,239 --> 01:17:42,119
At this point, yeah.

1637
01:17:41,399 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 9: Okay, at this point, I'm at I'm at a I'm

1638
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,960
at it, like you said, it's like this supposed I mean,

1639
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,720
I'm gonna say, suposy, I'm gonna say, y'all got enough evidence.

1640
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:50,319
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1641
01:17:50,319 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 9: I can timey, and I ain't gonna say time. I'm

1642
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,560
gonna say, put me here, put me there, put me here,

1643
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:55,399
for me there, put me there.

1644
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 6: You know I could put you with everybody involved in

1645
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:02,399
this prior to you, during and follow murder. That's bad, okay,

1646
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:08,399
and then voice yeah, that's bad. Okay, Then we have this.

1647
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,279
You know, now you know they're dead, and you still

1648
01:18:10,359 --> 01:18:14,199
tap into ATM cards. We'll pick them a circumstance. You're

1649
01:18:14,199 --> 01:18:18,920
a victim of your own ego. Man, greed, greed, greed,

1650
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,439
definitely agreed greed. Yeah.

1651
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,079
Speaker 10: But when it comes, like I said, the murder and death.

1652
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:27,079
Speaker 6: Not, I mean, you're so damn sure to tell me

1653
01:18:27,159 --> 01:18:29,600
that you didn't kill them, Tell me what the hell happened?

1654
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:39,399
Make me believe it. I mean, how am I supposed

1655
01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:39,760
to do that?

1656
01:18:40,279 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 7: Tell me the truth?

1657
01:18:41,079 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 6: Tell me what happened?

1658
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:42,199
Speaker 7: When?

1659
01:18:42,319 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 6: When?

1660
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 7: When?

1661
01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:45,159
Speaker 6: When you leave I know you, I know you're at

1662
01:18:45,159 --> 01:18:50,039
the house already, Okay, when you leave there, okay, when

1663
01:18:50,039 --> 01:18:53,279
you leave there? You know there's a retired comicide detective

1664
01:18:53,279 --> 01:18:55,960
that has a private investigation from at the park where

1665
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,119
you guys were hanging out before, by the victim's house.

1666
01:18:59,399 --> 01:19:04,359
Who came right there? Wait, I just saw them down there.

1667
01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:07,159
Speaker 9: But yeah, take me out though I wasn't never tasting

1668
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:09,239
no football with nobody in front of no park, in

1669
01:19:09,239 --> 01:19:12,239
front of the house. I don't know where that came from. Somebody,

1670
01:19:12,279 --> 01:19:13,960
glease tell me where that came from. I got to

1671
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,760
see this video. That was one video I can I

1672
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,000
just said, no video.

1673
01:19:17,159 --> 01:19:18,159
Speaker 6: He said there were people.

1674
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 9: Helloyd told me that city said the state had an

1675
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,479
investigator something that saw me Alan Bruce, the girl and

1676
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:24,399
somebody don't.

1677
01:19:24,199 --> 01:19:26,079
Speaker 6: Want a football in the park and some football or

1678
01:19:26,079 --> 01:19:26,840
basketball or somebody.

1679
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,159
Speaker 10: I said, shit got proved out. I know that was

1680
01:19:29,159 --> 01:19:31,560
a bullgit man.

1681
01:19:32,039 --> 01:19:35,079
Speaker 12: Got Do you feel some compassionate about your defensive thing

1682
01:19:35,119 --> 01:19:35,680
the football?

1683
01:19:36,199 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I know that that's some bulls.

1684
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,359
Speaker 12: But you don't argue about Detective Meechamson. You're telling you

1685
01:19:40,359 --> 01:19:41,880
you're at a team getting murdered.

1686
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,119
Speaker 6: He's wonder the same, damn neighborhood or nothing.

1687
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:50,560
Speaker 9: He was just saying, man, But I mean, okay, like

1688
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,800
I said, you got all this evidence. Thinking time of

1689
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,600
it is if I sit there and tell you, you

1690
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,520
know what I'm saying. See, I can't even do that

1691
01:19:58,520 --> 01:19:59,840
because you want me to tell you something that I

1692
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:00,920
can can't tell you.

1693
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 6: That's the part I don't get. Well, if you can't

1694
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,840
bring yourself to tell me bringing myself to tell you.

1695
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,359
Is you want me to tell you something I can't

1696
01:20:07,399 --> 01:20:09,279
tell you. You want to say what happened? You know

1697
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,760
you won't tell an It won't is it can't because

1698
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,640
if you do, you feels condemn what happened to those people?

1699
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,079
Speaker 10: Yeah, I can tell you what I was told all day.

1700
01:20:21,039 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 7: Tell us what you saw it happen.

1701
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 6: Did people get killed out and not see that ship happened?

1702
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 7: You're standing You said there, told me they were big.

1703
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,119
Speaker 6: Told you light that they groaned when they dropped him

1704
01:20:31,119 --> 01:20:34,079
in the hole. They were still alive.

1705
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 7: How about this statement? Hey, hey, how about this statement?

1706
01:20:39,319 --> 01:20:41,600
Bruce took him to the bodies. Bruce just fucking hum

1707
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:42,039
us all.

1708
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 6: He just fucking humless. Yeah, yeah, I remember saying that,

1709
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:47,960
saying that, But at the same time, that can be

1710
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,319
taken No, no, no, no, no, no, you be taking one one.

1711
01:20:51,319 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 7: I'll take bets on how that them is gonna be

1712
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:53,840
taken in front of twelve people.

1713
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 6: You gotta get your mom. You gotta give me some

1714
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,760
fucking bond. I gotta get out of here. Yeah, he took,

1715
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:03,159
he said wanted me to. I said, give me the Florida,

1716
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,319
give me once I get the fuck on out of you.

1717
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:05,520
Speaker 5: Man.

1718
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,199
Speaker 6: But I did not mean I'm you know, haul ass

1719
01:21:07,279 --> 01:21:09,840
and not come back. Look, if I was you, I

1720
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,319
would haul lass and not come back.

1721
01:21:11,359 --> 01:21:14,319
Speaker 12: I'd be on my computer making new ideas.

1722
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 6: Do you have to lose? Do you have to lose?

1723
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,159
I've been on the run before. I know how to

1724
01:21:19,279 --> 01:21:21,399
say you were on the run. Over found you.

1725
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 9: It was there.

1726
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 6: I wasn't on the run.

1727
01:21:24,039 --> 01:21:25,279
Speaker 9: I mean I could have went back and they would

1728
01:21:25,319 --> 01:21:27,199
have locked me up for nine months of the left

1729
01:21:27,279 --> 01:21:27,880
ten months.

1730
01:21:28,319 --> 01:21:30,199
Speaker 10: Between nine and eleven months. I would have had not have.

1731
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:32,319
Speaker 6: Been on I wasn't on no runs. But I've been

1732
01:21:32,319 --> 01:21:35,000
on that run ship. I know how I'm trying to

1733
01:21:35,039 --> 01:21:35,560
live like that.

1734
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 4: Man.

1735
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 7: Nothing, She's not gonna get a bought here.

1736
01:21:43,359 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 6: I mean, if you watched all that shit happened, I

1737
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,239
didn't have nothing to do it. You need tell me

1738
01:21:46,239 --> 01:21:48,359
about it. You need to tell me every last listen.

1739
01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:50,399
Speaker 9: Love it Okay, Okay, if I did okay, listen, if

1740
01:21:50,399 --> 01:21:51,920
I did watch it happen, I said they had nothing

1741
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:52,199
to do it.

1742
01:21:52,239 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 10: How is that gonna help me? There's no way possible

1743
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:55,000
that can help me.

1744
01:21:55,079 --> 01:21:58,039
Speaker 6: Doesn't hurt you. You're ared of there. Okay, I'm still

1745
01:21:58,079 --> 01:21:59,760
gonna get man to like, I'm still gonna get a

1746
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,840
kne put them on that shit. Don't help me? Man, Ooh,

1747
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,760
let me ask you this. Let me ask you. You're

1748
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,920
an adamant you didn't do it to them? Okay, you're

1749
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,560
adamant about that positive mind. Do you feel that the

1750
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,039
people that did should be help fully responsible for it?

1751
01:22:13,079 --> 01:22:16,039
Of course, then that's how you help yourself. Because if

1752
01:22:16,039 --> 01:22:18,560
you ain't fully responsible, and you have evidence, a proof

1753
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,159
there shows who is fully responsible, that's on you. I mean,

1754
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:23,520
if you want to wear it for them, you go

1755
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:23,960
for it.

1756
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,319
Speaker 10: You say you said I'm gonna have to wear it records?

1757
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:28,159
Speaker 6: How am I not?

1758
01:22:28,319 --> 01:22:30,079
Speaker 9: How am I not gonna have to weave regardless? Okay,

1759
01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:32,199
y'all got a video that does this. I got two

1760
01:22:32,279 --> 01:22:33,439
dead people's credit card.

1761
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,319
Speaker 6: Man, it's in the interview. Really, well, people, twelve people.

1762
01:22:37,119 --> 01:22:40,399
Speaker 10: I'm going down for that. You get twelve Floridians.

1763
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,079
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Okay, they just saw me July.

1764
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 9: They said, whenever I hit the TV suspect and killing

1765
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,039
these two people, I was guilty in.

1766
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 6: Your mind already.

1767
01:22:48,399 --> 01:22:50,399
Speaker 9: Why are we even going to Charles? Just going how

1768
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,000
do you been there? Come on, man, what do they

1769
01:22:53,039 --> 01:22:53,319
know about?

1770
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,119
Speaker 6: Just like? What do they know about Alan? What do

1771
01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:58,359
they what do they know about brutus? Maybe you provide

1772
01:22:58,399 --> 01:23:00,560
something for them on Bruce Allen or two? We can

1773
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:05,520
I provide for them the truth? I think I'm lost, man.

1774
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:07,479
I'm not trying to be funny, but a seriously think

1775
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:08,840
I'm lost, okay.

1776
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 12: Because you're delusional in the thinking that that you can

1777
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,239
spin this around to despinable.

1778
01:23:13,319 --> 01:23:16,079
Speaker 6: You're not getting out, and you're not getting out before trial.

1779
01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:18,079
You're gonna go to trial. You're gonna sit there till trial.

1780
01:23:18,119 --> 01:23:21,199
There's no option about that, okay. And we've been upfront

1781
01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:23,159
about that from the beginning. That ain't gonna happen. And

1782
01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:26,279
I've told you that several times. You ain't getting a bond. Okay,

1783
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,920
maybe you would in some other state. You're not getting

1784
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:29,880
a bond here.

1785
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 7: Not do to get it?

1786
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:37,039
Speaker 6: One zero nothing, not nothing. Okay, So that ain't gonna happen.

1787
01:23:37,079 --> 01:23:38,920
And we've told you that from the beginning, but you

1788
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:40,720
you didn't either just didn't want to believe us or

1789
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:41,479
just didn't believe us.

1790
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,560
Speaker 9: We're screw that, it says, I feel, you know what

1791
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,520
I'm saying, Like, Okay, I'm charged with burd you know

1792
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:46,159
what I'm saying.

1793
01:23:46,319 --> 01:23:48,319
Speaker 6: But if I didn't kill nobody, you know what I'm saying,

1794
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,039
you ain't charge for shoplifting.

1795
01:23:50,119 --> 01:23:50,279
Speaker 5: Men.

1796
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 7: How many guilty people have you talked to in the jail?

1797
01:23:53,039 --> 01:23:57,399
Speaker 6: How many people in the jail they're guilty of their crimes?

1798
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,000
None fifty fifty was the guy that you know right

1799
01:24:01,079 --> 01:24:02,960
there in their hands, you know what I'm saying. Kind

1800
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:03,640
of like this case.

1801
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's like I got one hundred fingers

1802
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,119
pointing that view right now, and it's ship.

1803
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:12,159
Speaker 6: The best part is is you're holding most of them.

1804
01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:18,199
You did all the point in yourself. Okay. So like

1805
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:18,640
I said, I.

1806
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,079
Speaker 9: Mean, what what what's the best thing that can come

1807
01:24:22,079 --> 01:24:23,520
out of it from I mean, what's the best thing

1808
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,800
that can happen to me? The best thing if the

1809
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,399
whole truth whenever y'all get did, if everything comes out,

1810
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:29,680
everything comes out.

1811
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 6: The absolute best thing is if if you were to

1812
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:37,439
be cooperative until everything the best thing is they're probably

1813
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,399
not gonna seek death bounty. Okay, but that's on the

1814
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,880
table right now. We can't make that deal. Okay, that's

1815
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,239
up to the state attorney. In your attorney. You come

1816
01:24:45,319 --> 01:24:48,319
holy clean with them, more wholly cleaning with us. After

1817
01:24:48,399 --> 01:24:51,079
talking with them, you know they can make those arrangements.

1818
01:24:51,119 --> 01:24:54,760
I can't do that. Okay. You're looking at some time

1819
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,439
right now, if you're convicted right now, the way things

1820
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,520
stin so you said, right now, the way things sting,

1821
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,399
charge of worship the murder. If you have full victor

1822
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:06,640
the first three murder, you have two penalties, life or death.

1823
01:25:07,079 --> 01:25:10,960
That's it. I cannot he cannot make a deal. It

1824
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,119
takes that off take you said the state attorney again.

1825
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,600
The state attorney can talk with you, but I'll tell

1826
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,479
you this up front before he Yeah, listen to me.

1827
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,319
I know we don't go together. Give him, but un

1828
01:25:21,359 --> 01:25:25,520
listen listen to him. He will make lawyer. He will

1829
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,039
not make you a promise until he's heard the whole

1830
01:25:28,039 --> 01:25:29,880
truth and had a chance to look at it and

1831
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,399
decide if you bullship.

1832
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 2: Numb or not.

1833
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 10: Okay, but how about this though, that's the fact.

1834
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 6: How about this?

1835
01:25:34,119 --> 01:25:37,079
Speaker 9: Okay, we say in front of him, truth come out.

1836
01:25:37,119 --> 01:25:38,560
You know what I'm saying, the whole truth come out.

1837
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,520
And at the same time, I got a lot of

1838
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,000
ship that can help me in the process.

1839
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:44,279
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying that that's that's up to

1840
01:25:44,319 --> 01:25:47,079
you and the attorney to discuss. Okay, I can't, I'm

1841
01:25:47,119 --> 01:25:50,000
our attorney, say attorney, I can't. I can't. I can't

1842
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:50,640
make a deal with you.

1843
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:54,119
Speaker 7: Okay, we're don't have the power. Round get started to

1844
01:25:54,279 --> 01:25:55,000
Michael and if we.

1845
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 10: Did two what the hell does his name?

1846
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:02,520
Speaker 6: Miss Ra? Yeah?

1847
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:03,039
Speaker 7: What do you mean?

1848
01:26:03,039 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 6: It's up to they said.

1849
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,520
Speaker 9: When I went in the courtroom, right, this is what

1850
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,800
they said. He said, like the first they started with

1851
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,079
the bond hearing thing, because Richard was like, my client,

1852
01:26:12,119 --> 01:26:13,319
whatever data about here?

1853
01:26:13,399 --> 01:26:15,079
Speaker 6: He said. That's when he said it was up to

1854
01:26:15,119 --> 01:26:15,640
the detective.

1855
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,359
Speaker 9: He said, the detectives got to put in an affidavid

1856
01:26:19,159 --> 01:26:20,199
evidence that evidence.

1857
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,560
Speaker 6: I don't know, no, no technique. Shit is man, I

1858
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,840
don't know how that know, we don't. But then I asked,

1859
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,199
what are we asking for? You're asking for discovery? When

1860
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:31,399
you're at the bond hearing everything. Okay, the David is

1861
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,800
we have to have submitted everything to the state for

1862
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,920
them to make it available to the defense. Okay, Uh,

1863
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,039
they can't give you what they don't have. In other words, no,

1864
01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:41,640
are you talking about the bond here and a deal?

1865
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: You know?

1866
01:26:42,039 --> 01:26:43,239
Speaker 10: Imcause I asked Richard, I was.

1867
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Speaker 6: Like, we don't. We don't make the deal. Okay. What

1868
01:26:45,119 --> 01:26:47,239
would happen is is you'd have to you'd have to

1869
01:26:47,239 --> 01:26:50,560
tell us every day. Let us go look at everything

1870
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,159
and see if it's truthful or not. Okay, as best

1871
01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:55,439
as we can determine. And sometimes we can say it

1872
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,760
definitely is. Sometimes we can say it definitely isn't. Sometimes

1873
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:02,720
we say don't know. Sounds good, But we have to

1874
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:04,560
feel we're getting the whole truth. If we feel like

1875
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,560
we're getting bullshitted, Why why would I kind of deal

1876
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,199
if I feel like you're just giving me half truce

1877
01:27:09,319 --> 01:27:11,079
or something good, you know what I mean? Why would

1878
01:27:11,119 --> 01:27:13,640
I recommend to the state that they consider what you're

1879
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,640
telling us? Okay? You know, And that's that's all we

1880
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,479
can do, is tell the state that, hey, what he's

1881
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,319
told us appears valid or so it appears like a

1882
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:22,640
whole another dairy story.

1883
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,399
Speaker 7: So it's up to the state of Yeah, but before

1884
01:27:25,399 --> 01:27:27,199
he's gonna say anything, but before.

1885
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 6: He'll make a deal with you. I'm telling you right now,

1886
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,199
I know he got to go to yoth No. No,

1887
01:27:30,319 --> 01:27:32,520
he wants to hear everything first and give us a

1888
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,159
chance to go see if it's true or if you're

1889
01:27:34,199 --> 01:27:34,920
just blowing smoking.

1890
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:35,199
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1891
01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:40,159
Speaker 6: So okay, I see because what if I say, hypothetically, okay,

1892
01:27:40,319 --> 01:27:44,119
you tell me everything and I'll take this penalty off

1893
01:27:44,119 --> 01:27:46,520
the table guaranteed. I'm kind allowed to do that.

1894
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 10: Technically, that's like a lawyer, lawyer guarantee you're going.

1895
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 6: But then you tell me you know, uh, you know

1896
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,159
it was half off and three strippers from New York

1897
01:27:55,159 --> 01:27:55,960
that kill these people.

1898
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,039
Speaker 10: Okay to I don't know what the hell you're gonna

1899
01:27:58,039 --> 01:27:58,359
tell me.

1900
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,039
Speaker 6: Ye ain't getting the deal till they know what's on

1901
01:28:00,079 --> 01:28:01,920
the table. Okay, Okay, you know what I'm saying.

1902
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's how now I work with a home but

1903
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,560
it's active ben Berkey County like that. On time he

1904
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,359
told me, he said, look, it's how it's gonna work.

1905
01:28:07,399 --> 01:28:08,960
You got to give me something and we'll get you

1906
01:28:09,039 --> 01:28:10,640
up them, know me up for.

1907
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 6: Them is for here. You got to give them everything.

1908
01:28:14,199 --> 01:28:18,479
No withholding I'm talking about them. He told me, he

1909
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:19,920
was like, give me something. They came and got me.

1910
01:28:20,039 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 7: I give him something.

1911
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 6: They got me a bond, you know what I'm saying.

1912
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And then I helped him. Then I work with him.

1913
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 7: From the same Michael removed the word bond from you.

1914
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,159
Speaker 6: It's probation, man. This the only thing here is you

1915
01:28:31,199 --> 01:28:33,000
know that that The only options they have right now

1916
01:28:33,079 --> 01:28:37,359
is to look. If they feel you're giving full, truthful disclosure,

1917
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:42,960
then they may be inclined to to do something with them.

1918
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,640
We can't make that laser charges on. I don't know,

1919
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:46,479
it's not up to us.

1920
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,119
Speaker 9: See, Like the whole murder change is like you got

1921
01:28:49,119 --> 01:28:50,920
to actually kill somebody to be charged with murder?

1922
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:51,279
Speaker 7: Right now?

1923
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 6: How does that work? That's what I need to know.

1924
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:54,840
How does that work? How am I being charged?

1925
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,399
Speaker 12: It's called it cause you and I go into a

1926
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,840
convenience store to do a lake. You get pissed off

1927
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,840
and shoot and kill. You need to a clerk.

1928
01:29:02,359 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 6: They both held shoulder.

1929
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 11: But if the video shows that I was like Dolly

1930
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:09,079
murder role.

1931
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,199
Speaker 6: So how how then nothing can help me. Then intent

1932
01:29:13,399 --> 01:29:15,800
can help you. There's a difference between a fellowly murder

1933
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:20,119
and a first degree premeditative murder. Oh, I give what

1934
01:29:20,119 --> 01:29:21,640
you're saying. I got the show. I ain't had no

1935
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,960
planning in killing these fucking people, and ship like that.

1936
01:29:24,039 --> 01:29:26,640
And then oh didn't didn't hold the shovel, didn't didn't

1937
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:27,520
do anything else.

1938
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,520
Speaker 9: The finger Printsy'll say, y'all got the shoves that finger

1939
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,640
prints ship out and mother, oh.

1940
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 6: Man, all right, check it out, right? So we got

1941
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,439
to start from day one. Yeah, I mean, we need

1942
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,159
to start at the beginning. And you know that that's

1943
01:29:46,279 --> 01:29:49,119
just the way it goes, all right?

1944
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 5: Is that?

1945
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 9: So like I said, I come out, you know, give

1946
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,880
y'all whatever, you know what I'm saying. And then like

1947
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,399
I said, a bunch more ship you know what I'm saying.

1948
01:29:56,399 --> 01:29:58,199
They can't help that state attorney.

1949
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,399
Speaker 6: Do you want to do you want to talk to

1950
01:29:59,399 --> 01:30:01,960
your lawyer, but do you just want us to talk

1951
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,439
to the state attorney and come back and meet with

1952
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,119
you again? This is this is off the record, right.

1953
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 10: That's how between me and you, this is this is

1954
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:08,079
the deal.

1955
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 6: My parents told me. The way my grandma said, she said, look,

1956
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:12,600
you got to do the right thing.

1957
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,039
Speaker 9: My grandma told me straight up you know what I'm saying,

1958
01:30:14,039 --> 01:30:16,399
because it's it's fucking life at state you know what

1959
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:16,800
I'm saying.

1960
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 10: So straight up she's handling everything.

1961
01:30:20,359 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 6: With the lawyers.

1962
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 9: Like I said, with this whole ship, would do Bill Shevard,

1963
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,880
whatever the fuck that is. But I told Nancy, the

1964
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:29,159
paralegal for Richard, I said, we ain't doing want to

1965
01:30:29,159 --> 01:30:31,079
seeking co counselor you know what I'm saying, We just

1966
01:30:31,199 --> 01:30:33,239
cause I want to get this. I want an emotional discovery.

1967
01:30:33,279 --> 01:30:35,039
I want all this ship so I can let me

1968
01:30:35,039 --> 01:30:37,560
see what's this funny. I want to see what's in

1969
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:37,880
front of me.

1970
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,239
Speaker 6: So I didn't have any life, none of that stuff. No,

1971
01:30:40,319 --> 01:30:41,760
he told he just wanted told me that y'all was

1972
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:42,479
coming to get all that.

1973
01:30:43,119 --> 01:30:46,359
Speaker 9: But so, like I said, and we can all sit

1974
01:30:46,399 --> 01:30:47,960
in front of the state attorney, I don't need I

1975
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:48,960
don't necessarily need.

1976
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 6: Like this point.

1977
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:53,520
Speaker 7: At this point, Michael, the state Attorney's gonna say, Now, that's.

1978
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,560
Speaker 6: What I'm saying. You know, if you want us to

1979
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:56,760
arrange that, we can do that.

1980
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 9: This is know what I'm saying. I know that you

1981
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,960
know I'm totally I told really understand that you know

1982
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:02,760
what I'm saying. Well, what I'm saying, I don't.

1983
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:09,119
Speaker 6: Can I have my letter you comes that, don't answer.

1984
01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:10,560
But at the same time, you can do it you want.

1985
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,520
I'm not you whatever you want you.

1986
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 12: Said, you said, you said, aside from this, you could

1987
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,000
no whole bunch of others, whole bunch of other ship.

1988
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,119
Speaker 6: Gang of ship, what manig Like I said, how serious

1989
01:31:23,159 --> 01:31:25,920
the stuff we're talking about? Drugs all kind of ship.

1990
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,439
I'm talking about elite right dam in front of you.

1991
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 9: Not no oh go here tomorrow, but nah, no bullshit,

1992
01:31:32,039 --> 01:31:34,720
Like I'm talking about serious ship, some real straight up ship.

1993
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,079
Like I said, look look up the murdering blanding that

1994
01:31:37,119 --> 01:31:39,119
happened with the expedition the dou.

1995
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 6: He the dude ain't died too in the hospital, but he

1996
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,720
didn't die, but the other motherfucker got away. I know

1997
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,199
where he at right now, I said, looked at it.

1998
01:31:47,319 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 10: I think it was Clay County and some ship. I

1999
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:50,039
don't know how the whole border ship.

2000
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:53,039
Speaker 9: I know everything in Jacksonville that, Like I said, I

2001
01:31:53,079 --> 01:31:54,720
know what gang of drugs is, right, I'm talking about

2002
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,800
keys of dope, keys a dope, No bullshit I'm not

2003
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:59,479
gonna sit there, like I said, fuck the stories fun

2004
01:31:59,600 --> 01:31:59,800
this this.

2005
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 6: Is my life. You know what I'm saying, You got

2006
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:02,399
a new song.

2007
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,359
Speaker 9: If i't gonna get a bond, I at least gotta

2008
01:32:04,399 --> 01:32:06,600
get you know, fuck that life ship.

2009
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,159
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying something oo, I gotta get

2010
01:32:09,279 --> 01:32:13,279
enough man where I'll tell you what I the turn

2011
01:32:13,359 --> 01:32:16,600
is gonna want to know what this kind of stuff. Yeah,

2012
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,359
but you just want to know about this case did

2013
01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:21,640
on this. That's what it takes him of cause I mean,

2014
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,399
I'll be honest, Sure we love to do the rest

2015
01:32:24,399 --> 01:32:26,199
of this check it out, but I ain't nearly as

2016
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:28,279
interested as that as I am in details on this

2017
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,600
because that's this is yas phone. No past I can

2018
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,159
feel them. I ain't gonna say I can feel them,

2019
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:39,880
but man, I got show Man. So I mean, when

2020
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,319
I think about it, write it's another note.

2021
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,319
Speaker 9: No that I mean, I know I can writch you.

2022
01:32:43,359 --> 01:32:49,439
What I'm saying is like this from day I mean

2023
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,640
I'm talking about I'm gonna go from the time the

2024
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,680
fucking call me from there to the day y'all the

2025
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:56,119
rest of them.

2026
01:32:56,159 --> 01:32:59,239
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Now, this is what I'm

2027
01:32:59,239 --> 01:33:00,720
gonna do. I'm gonna righte shit. You know what I'm saying.

2028
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:02,119
Don't had the ship in front of people whatever. You

2029
01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:03,359
know what I'm saying. Dah dah, dah dah.

2030
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 9: And like you said, if I sit in front of

2031
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,760
the say attorney, then you know, like I said, you said,

2032
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:09,520
then right there he said, he's got to hear it.

2033
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. But then we work out something.

2034
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 7: You canna start from winning from when he called.

2035
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 9: You, from the time Alan called me, from the time

2036
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,479
he was like, look, here's the deal.

2037
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:19,520
Speaker 6: I got something. You know what I'm saying, cause I

2038
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,399
ain't gonna lie. That's it. That's how the whole shit started.

2039
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,760
I chilled out with Allen spending the day of fourteen

2040
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,279
thousand A doon't went his way. Me and Tiffany came

2041
01:33:26,279 --> 01:33:29,399
back here and like I said, back to Florida, back

2042
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:31,680
to trash the owner, not back here, back to Charleston.

2043
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,840
That's what it was. How did how did Allen know

2044
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,479
to find these people? Alan didn't know the findest poglativity? Fine, right,

2045
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,279
so now how he called you to say check this out?

2046
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,920
How the whole shit even came about?

2047
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:42,159
Speaker 1: Man?

2048
01:33:42,279 --> 01:33:44,640
Speaker 9: Was them We stayed the night and in people's house.

2049
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,039
We me and Tiffany came down here to visit Allen.

2050
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. This is before I even

2051
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:53,760
got more money. Matter of fact, was it? Yeah? Hell yeah,

2052
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,720
it was before I even got my money. Came down here.

2053
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,960
Tiffany was like, I know some people down here.

2054
01:33:58,000 --> 01:33:59,399
Speaker 9: We can stay with you. You know what I'm saying, just

2055
01:33:59,399 --> 01:34:01,840
to you know what, sleep real quick. And because we

2056
01:34:02,199 --> 01:34:03,039
visited Alien.

2057
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,359
Speaker 6: But we did, we can know hotel some other bullshit?

2058
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,239
Is a card some bullshit or the fucking card I

2059
01:34:07,279 --> 01:34:07,760
don't remember.

2060
01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 9: Damn, that's what she called that, lady up, spend the

2061
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:15,880
night there and themn next day we was gone.

2062
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,520
Speaker 7: When the smart card got missing, tell us the truth

2063
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:18,920
about that.

2064
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,520
Speaker 6: Come on, I would tell you missing out of there

2065
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:24,680
she called, right, I remember because Tiffany called me. She

2066
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,680
was like, did you take a satellite card to some

2067
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:30,319
type of bullshit? And told her now, no, I ain't

2068
01:34:30,319 --> 01:34:31,880
taking him. No, not for what.

2069
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 10: I don't even have a house. What when he can

2070
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:34,399
satellite car for.

2071
01:34:36,119 --> 01:34:37,319
Speaker 7: Ty sell it to somebody?

2072
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 9: No, ain't no, damn crackhead type ship man won't make money.

2073
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,359
Speaker 2: You gonna get money, Get money, nah, damn.

2074
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 6: It's like, like I said, pretty much, how long before

2075
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:52,079
we visited them people one more time? What't even more time?

2076
01:34:52,119 --> 01:34:55,159
Speaker 9: It really really just came back down here was chilling

2077
01:34:55,199 --> 01:34:58,439
out with Autland again. And then, like I said, we

2078
01:34:58,479 --> 01:34:59,840
went over there matter of fact, because I left for

2079
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:01,079
and bagging her fucking house.

2080
01:35:01,119 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 6: That's how the shit happened. I'm not a fucking nankey

2081
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,640
bag in her house. And that's when the lady was like, well,

2082
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,880
the card was missing and some shit. I was like, oh,

2083
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,199
Mandy trying to say we stole fucking satellite.

2084
01:35:10,399 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 9: I was like, no, man went in there, and I'm

2085
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,920
going through the lady shit while she's right here, you know,

2086
01:35:15,279 --> 01:35:17,279
fucking searching behind a little dresser and shit.

2087
01:35:17,319 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 6: I'm like, man, that shit ain't here, man. And then

2088
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,560
that was the last time I sa eating people. Telling

2089
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,439
The truth is that when you saw the bank account statements.

2090
01:35:24,319 --> 01:35:26,119
Speaker 9: Nah, the bank account statements, Like I said, that shit

2091
01:35:26,199 --> 01:35:29,159
came cause Tiffany Thow. That's when supposedly the lady sold

2092
01:35:29,159 --> 01:35:31,159
with some condo with some house or some shit like

2093
01:35:31,199 --> 01:35:33,279
that for ninety nine thousand dollars or some shit like that,

2094
01:35:33,319 --> 01:35:34,600
And that's what I was, OK.

2095
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 6: But then again.

2096
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 7: That one.

2097
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 9: In my mind, it's like, okay to get away with something, man,

2098
01:35:40,199 --> 01:35:42,840
you can't just you know, run up in there, run out.

2099
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 10: That's the dumbest thing in the fucking world to dude.

2100
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

2101
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 9: If you're gonna get money, you know what I'm saying,

2102
01:35:48,399 --> 01:35:50,720
If you actually, if you want to get money, money,

2103
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,359
not ten dollars, not one hundred dollars.

2104
01:35:52,359 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

2105
01:35:53,279 --> 01:35:55,079
Speaker 10: That shit has got to be playing, That shit's got

2106
01:35:55,079 --> 01:35:55,720
to be done right.

2107
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:56,399
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

2108
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 6: You can't just whatever. You know what, this was pretty

2109
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:06,319
damn close. It was pretty damn close. I'm telling you,

2110
01:36:06,359 --> 01:36:14,239
this was close a fuck the greed greed got you.

2111
01:36:14,359 --> 01:36:16,640
It wasn't about greed. It was about greed. Man, Come

2112
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:20,520
on ATM card. Don't work ATM card. Don't want to

2113
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,680
turn that bitch on your tap at five times for

2114
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,840
a thousand dollars Bam bam baby ban bam, two hundred pop.

2115
01:36:26,079 --> 01:36:28,800
Because you couldn't drives fast as fast as you could,

2116
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:33,279
you popped it. Okay, Okay, that's greed. Okay, because if

2117
01:36:33,279 --> 01:36:35,439
it wasn't about greed, you're just taking two hundred Know

2118
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,840
when you spend it, you're going back because.

2119
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 9: You know the card was off. You gotta get it

2120
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,239
before the car turns off again. I ain't greed, that's

2121
01:36:42,239 --> 01:36:43,760
just being we go ahead and get this ship before

2122
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,359
they turned it off again, and then I'm stucking.

2123
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,119
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. That's what that was about.

2124
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:51,439
That's like, that's like I'm not many times though, five times, Yeah,

2125
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:53,119
because you only get two hundred out of the time.

2126
01:36:53,319 --> 01:36:57,439
How many different banks more than I could count? Many?

2127
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 9: Man, we see, like I said, a lot of them

2128
01:37:00,079 --> 01:37:01,560
because I'm in When y'all asked me, you said, did

2129
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,279
I ever use it at Georgia? I never took money

2130
01:37:04,319 --> 01:37:06,560
out of the thing trying, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

2131
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,520
I meant, I thought about it. I was like, why

2132
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,119
the fuck did he say that? But I remember I

2133
01:37:10,159 --> 01:37:11,920
never took money out of it, But yeah, I was.

2134
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,399
I took I took the gas. Why we asked you

2135
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:16,880
which one to see if you're gonna try and lie

2136
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,800
to this or not. But I never took money out

2137
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,600
of it though, That's what That's what I thought. You meant, like,

2138
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:22,279
did you use it at Georgia? Did you ever take

2139
01:37:22,279 --> 01:37:23,520
money out of the ship at Georgia.

2140
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,039
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna bullshit. So I want to know if

2141
01:37:25,039 --> 01:37:26,920
you got money in Georgia. Michael hod To asked you,

2142
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,600
did you get money from the car You're in Georgia.

2143
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,119
You gotta feel I'm coming from that. I don't know

2144
01:37:31,159 --> 01:37:33,039
what's going on right now. Man. Why know, you're gonna

2145
01:37:33,039 --> 01:37:34,640
get as rubles as you can to find out what

2146
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,760
situation you're in. And see, that's what I'm saying. We're

2147
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,479
just confront shit. I mean, I know in the world

2148
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:43,359
of shit. But it's like, man, I'm in a lot

2149
01:37:43,359 --> 01:37:45,840
of ship that I shouldn't be. Okay, Yeah, you know,

2150
01:37:46,159 --> 01:37:48,119
I know I didn't. I fucked up, you know what

2151
01:37:48,159 --> 01:37:48,560
I'm saying.

2152
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 9: But at the time, like you said, you said, the

2153
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,159
ship was close and the shit fucked up because of

2154
01:37:53,199 --> 01:37:55,159
them dumb at them people, stupidity.

2155
01:37:55,199 --> 01:37:56,239
Speaker 6: Man, you know what I'm saying.

2156
01:37:56,399 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 10: First of all, I would have killed rop fucking Bidy.

2157
01:37:58,680 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 7: Man.

2158
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,039
Speaker 10: You could have got all that money without killing anybody.

2159
01:38:01,239 --> 01:38:03,199
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. It wasn't a thirty of them.

2160
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 5: Cool.

2161
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 6: You ain't even got to scam him. Man. Oh, And

2162
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:08,800
I'd have got all that money without killing nobody.

2163
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 4: Man.

2164
01:38:10,039 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 6: She was the easiest.

2165
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 9: Fuck you ain't got to scam no person like that. Yeah,

2166
01:38:17,239 --> 01:38:19,840
that's it's still fuck man for you.

2167
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 6: You you start writing and we'll come see you in

2168
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,920
a week or so. Now what I'm saying, this is

2169
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,039
what I do. Like you said, do whatever you can.

2170
01:38:27,079 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 9: But I'm supposed to call my grandma tomorrow, not tomorrow

2171
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,119
one on. Yeah, I'm calling the Thursday.

2172
01:38:33,399 --> 01:38:35,279
Speaker 6: I gonna call her. I'm gonna tell her might look

2173
01:38:35,279 --> 01:38:36,279
I just take because I told her.

2174
01:38:36,279 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 9: I was like, look, I wrote him, I'm gonna talk

2175
01:38:38,039 --> 01:38:40,000
to him because you know, coming back, I was like,

2176
01:38:40,039 --> 01:38:41,000
why he's talking the police?

2177
01:38:41,319 --> 01:38:43,560
Speaker 6: Ool man? Look at you. I got that you ain't

2178
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,680
helping me. I mean, work with me, bro, you know

2179
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:46,920
what I was saying. I'm trying to do something like

2180
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,079
it show. So anyway, Damn, I'm gonna call her. I'm like, look,

2181
01:38:50,119 --> 01:38:51,039
you need to come down here.

2182
01:38:51,079 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

2183
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,359
Speaker 6: And I guess I'm gona talk to her.

2184
01:38:54,359 --> 01:38:56,159
Speaker 7: And I was like, what's your grandma gonna do to

2185
01:38:56,199 --> 01:38:58,079
try to get those shepherd what is she willing to do?

2186
01:38:58,119 --> 01:38:59,560
By I spent sell her house two.

2187
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:03,520
Speaker 10: Hundred and fifty, telling her house an they ain't broke.

2188
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:04,079
Speaker 6: We're good at that.

2189
01:39:04,159 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 7: Man.

2190
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 9: My grandfather went over to Egypt and Alexandria and shit

2191
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,840
is opposed in all that nine to eleven shit, Alexandria

2192
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:10,960
walked to naval ships.

2193
01:39:11,199 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 6: That fucker was making damnary million a.

2194
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:14,159
Speaker 9: Year, but he had to stay over there three hundred

2195
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:16,199
and forty eight days for it to be tax exemper

2196
01:39:16,279 --> 01:39:16,520
some shit.

2197
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 6: The fuckers got paid. Now, they got paid the ship

2198
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,880
for the day. In the past forty years, since two

2199
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,000
thousand and one, they got paid.

2200
01:39:22,399 --> 01:39:25,239
Speaker 7: You've got a very good attorney, no, Richard, No.

2201
01:39:25,319 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 6: I said, I want to be cold counsel.

2202
01:39:27,399 --> 01:39:29,159
Speaker 10: But at the same time, okay, I'm in here for

2203
01:39:29,239 --> 01:39:31,840
capital murder charge. Spent eight months. I don't have one

2204
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:33,399
piece of paper. You ain't been to sea.

2205
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 6: I've seen y'all. I've seen my lawyer. Man. Come on,

2206
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,680
we're friendly people, but you see what i'ming. You understand

2207
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,640
what I'm getting at though, Okay, no doubt they did.

2208
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,279
Richard's background checked. Richard good as a motherfucker. You know

2209
01:39:45,319 --> 01:39:48,319
what I'm saying. But at the same time, come on, man,

2210
01:39:48,319 --> 01:39:50,239
I've seen y'all more than i've seen my lawyer.

2211
01:39:50,319 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 7: Man.

2212
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,199
Speaker 6: Ooh, come see me all be in there next week

2213
01:39:53,239 --> 01:39:55,359
to see. Man, I ain't seen yet where we're at. Man,

2214
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,359
just give me a copy of song. You know what

2215
01:39:57,359 --> 01:39:59,640
I'm saying. Let me see what's going on. Man, All

2216
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,399
I got is an indictment. Does anybody get up the

2217
01:40:02,399 --> 01:40:03,520
computer we gave you that?

2218
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 9: I think somebody mailed it that the somebody mailed at

2219
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:11,920
the South Carolina and Kenny, Yeah, wait did But like

2220
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,600
I said, I'm all right, all right everything I need

2221
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:15,800
to Write'm gonna talk to her Thursday.

2222
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,359
Speaker 6: I'mna tell her to come down here and should tell

2223
01:40:18,359 --> 01:40:19,680
her come talk to us. So she wants to come

2224
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:21,199
talk to us, I got no problem with that.

2225
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,239
Speaker 10: I can't get a visit on over the streets.

2226
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:25,079
Speaker 6: What's her name? I shouldn't even be a devils.

2227
01:40:25,159 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 7: I shouldn't even be on the streets.

2228
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 6: What dimples and nab it dimples Ida bet and nabin

2229
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,359
it I n A v I n E nab it.

2230
01:40:36,399 --> 01:40:39,560
That's but no, I'm gonna talk to her and tell her.

2231
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:44,720
I'm like, man, I don't know what I got to do, but.

2232
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:45,199
Speaker 2: I'm over this on.

2233
01:40:46,199 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 6: But like we said, you know, I mean, we're we're

2234
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,439
interested in the whole truth. So We'll talk to the

2235
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,239
State of Tourney and tell them we've talked. Just tell them. Look,

2236
01:40:53,279 --> 01:40:54,000
it's as simbil as this.

2237
01:40:54,039 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 9: I'm willing to do whatever you know what I'm saying

2238
01:40:56,039 --> 01:40:58,279
it takes to get me at it. And I ain't

2239
01:40:58,279 --> 01:41:00,079
gonna say I want to do whatever it take to

2240
01:41:00,079 --> 01:41:01,119
get this murder ship going.

2241
01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:01,359
Speaker 6: Man.

2242
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 9: I ain't killing nobody. Man, I'm wanting to help work

2243
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,239
he talk do anything. I ain't kill nobody. I'm not

2244
01:41:06,239 --> 01:41:09,039
saying the credit card you burn me for that.

2245
01:41:09,079 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I did that kidnapp you.

2246
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:13,359
I ain't killed out no people. I ain't touch no people.

2247
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,920
I ain't who eh. Yeah, but you were with them

2248
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,000
one that did it. I ain't put who you're with,

2249
01:41:19,199 --> 01:41:20,960
what that did? What is what is with him? Though?

2250
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:22,479
What is that? I mean? You were in the car

2251
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:26,119
follow on him. Okay, now, I mean that that pretty

2252
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:29,159
much kind of sucks. But there you are, Okay, you

2253
01:41:29,239 --> 01:41:31,560
follow on them and you're talking to them on the

2254
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,800
next till while you're doing that, do you ever consider that?

2255
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,159
So hold on, hold on the boost excuse me, but

2256
01:41:39,279 --> 01:41:43,119
you said that sell the boost phones. So but you

2257
01:41:43,279 --> 01:41:44,880
said next toils what you said on.

2258
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 9: So is there like a specific time these people were

2259
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:51,760
supposed to be killed and all this other ship? You

2260
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,880
tell me to take this out. This is what I'm saying.

2261
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:59,399
What if I got am I together? If this is

2262
01:41:59,399 --> 01:42:03,119
what I'm asking, What if I got proof? You know

2263
01:42:03,159 --> 01:42:05,319
what I'm saying, not no story, not no fiction, proof

2264
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,000
that when these people were being killed, I wasn't there.

2265
01:42:08,199 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 10: If you have I'm telling you actual prink.

2266
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,039
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you, if you have actual proof, then

2267
01:42:12,079 --> 01:42:14,479
you have the dumbest motherfucker I've ever met my life

2268
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:16,439
to withhold that from us, to show that you were

2269
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,600
somewhere else not hearing what I'm saying. Man, It's not

2270
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,199
that simple, man, It is that simple. This is your

2271
01:42:21,199 --> 01:42:24,159
life in the balance, isn't it. Yeah, proof you're not there.

2272
01:42:24,199 --> 01:42:26,239
I ain't sitting on that ship that would have come out.

2273
01:42:26,279 --> 01:42:30,119
Speaker 12: But I'm so this is this is where I was checked,

2274
01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:32,000
that check, that person, that person.

2275
01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:34,199
Speaker 6: Here's the phone numbers here find them.

2276
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 5: Hear me.

2277
01:42:35,159 --> 01:42:38,560
Speaker 6: That's simple. It's always that simple. No, it's not. Trust me, man,

2278
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,279
it's not. It might be in Florida, but trust me,

2279
01:42:41,359 --> 01:42:43,520
it's not what it hard I'm saying.

2280
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 9: This is all I'm saying if I can get if

2281
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,079
I can get you proof, not like I said, not

2282
01:42:47,119 --> 01:42:49,359
no story, not no person coming in to say, oh yeah,

2283
01:42:49,359 --> 01:42:49,800
he was with me.

2284
01:42:50,079 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 6: I'm no bullshit. I'm talking about actual proof. When these

2285
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,359
puggles were supposed to being buried. Now I was here.

2286
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,279
I wasn't there. That'll help you. I'm talking about life here.

2287
01:42:59,319 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 7: Where's there?

2288
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:04,039
Speaker 9: Where were you if they Georgia getting buried and I

2289
01:43:04,079 --> 01:43:06,600
got proof at that time, I wasn't no wing there

2290
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:07,079
that ship?

2291
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 6: Where were you? Saying? Hey, look at that? You can't

2292
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:12,279
even tell me? So I mean, I think you're full

2293
01:43:12,319 --> 01:43:14,119
of shit. You know what I'm saying. I understand what

2294
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:15,880
it looks like. But I'm just saying that will help me?

2295
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:16,079
Speaker 5: Right?

2296
01:43:16,239 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 6: How many? But we've we've danced this dance about a

2297
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,279
half dozen times right now. And every time you tell

2298
01:43:21,359 --> 01:43:23,039
me I got some I got some proof. What if

2299
01:43:23,039 --> 01:43:24,800
I have proof? You ain't never giving me nothing to

2300
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,760
show that she got that proof? Okay, I can bring

2301
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,159
you prove not you give me nothing. My grandma comes

2302
01:43:29,159 --> 01:43:29,800
down there, can bring you.

2303
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 7: Tell me your You're at Grandma Dimple's house.

2304
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 6: At no time.

2305
01:43:35,039 --> 01:43:37,319
Speaker 9: But you'll see though, I guarantee you though she'll bring

2306
01:43:37,399 --> 01:43:39,560
y'all proof, not no staving in no confession.

2307
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 6: She'll bring you. I look forward to seeing that. And

2308
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,479
if she has proof, you need to encourage her to

2309
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:46,399
come forward because the longer she.

2310
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,520
Speaker 10: Went on her from us, it's not her, it's the problem. Listen,

2311
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:54,159
it ain't hurt you. I'm saying, listen, is you gotta understand?

2312
01:43:54,600 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, look at it, y'all holies, right yea?

2313
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:02,520
Speaker 6: You notice you know how the streets is?

2314
01:44:03,279 --> 01:44:03,600
Speaker 7: Okay.

2315
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:09,079
Speaker 9: Alan knows me, Tiffany knows me. Bruce don't really fucking

2316
01:44:09,159 --> 01:44:12,399
know me. If I said, if something off the wall

2317
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,880
dude comes in and talks to Alan saying it's about me.

2318
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,119
You no, No, I ain't gonna say that. If somebody comes

2319
01:44:18,159 --> 01:44:19,600
in and talk to me and said it's about Alan,

2320
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:20,840
but I don't know who the fuck that is, I'm

2321
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,560
gona be looking at him like it's a cop.

2322
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 7: Man.

2323
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 6: That's the first anybody got even beat no cop. That's

2324
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:26,520
the first thing that's gonna come to mind. But say

2325
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:28,640
Alan's mama comes in there. I know her. You know

2326
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:29,199
what I'm saying.

2327
01:44:29,239 --> 01:44:30,640
Speaker 9: I'm gonna work with her. I'm gonna help you know

2328
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,680
what I'm saying, Look, what can we talk about? You

2329
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:33,279
know what I'm saying.

2330
01:44:33,359 --> 01:44:35,279
Speaker 6: Shit like that. Believe me, if it was as simple

2331
01:44:35,319 --> 01:44:37,279
ast oh, go over here. You know what I'm saying.

2332
01:44:37,359 --> 01:44:42,079
Speaker 10: Yeah, you can get whatever you again, and you're right.

2333
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:43,479
Like I said, from the first night.

2334
01:44:43,359 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 9: I said, Man, I was there, Man, I was holding flashlight, man,

2335
01:44:47,359 --> 01:44:48,000
whatever else.

2336
01:44:48,039 --> 01:44:48,640
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

2337
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, in my mind, psychologically, I'm gonna be like this

2338
01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:53,079
motherfuckers nervous.

2339
01:44:53,119 --> 01:44:55,279
Speaker 6: He just told us the truth. He don't be fucked up.

2340
01:44:55,279 --> 01:44:57,000
You know what I'm saying. He vined. That's all he did.

2341
01:44:57,239 --> 01:44:59,039
You know what I'm saying. He finally got that shit

2342
01:44:59,079 --> 01:45:01,880
off his chest. That's what I would think too. Shit

2343
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:04,920
Like I said, you know what, you know what's happening

2344
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:05,279
right now.

2345
01:45:05,319 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 9: I don't deny that a lot of that shit I

2346
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:08,800
told you at first name wasn't true because a.

2347
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 6: Lot of it was. I'm gonna tell you they told

2348
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,680
us that first night, okay, about being there when all

2349
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,159
this happened. I got no doubts about it. Okay, no

2350
01:45:17,279 --> 01:45:19,760
doubts at all, because you couldn't know at that time

2351
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,960
what everybody else was telling us. Okay, you couldn't know

2352
01:45:23,039 --> 01:45:24,640
it you weren't sitting in the room with us when

2353
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:26,920
we sat in there with Tiffaney. Okay, well, Thartners were

2354
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:27,760
sitting down with Bruce.

2355
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:29,239
Speaker 13: There's you no way for you to know what do

2356
01:45:29,279 --> 01:45:31,079
you mean what was going on during those interviews and

2357
01:45:31,159 --> 01:45:32,199
what they told us?

2358
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,560
Speaker 6: Right, excuse me? What do you mean? What would it

2359
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,039
matter what they told Jode? Well, how can you just

2360
01:45:37,159 --> 01:45:39,359
make some shit up? Okay? How can you just make

2361
01:45:39,399 --> 01:45:41,439
it up? And it just happened to that. I give

2362
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,239
it everything that that teel saying.

2363
01:45:43,239 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 9: I could have known the exact story exactly, and yet hey,

2364
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:49,239
look the stories match.

2365
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 6: Okay, when it doesn't take it down, Rocket Sign just

2366
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:53,800
stalized that told us the trivial feemal.

2367
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 9: They said, if people got killed a week before y'all

2368
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,039
the rest of us, that gives me a whole week

2369
01:45:58,079 --> 01:45:58,760
to find out what.

2370
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:00,560
Speaker 12: Happened about the only thing that you told me that

2371
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:04,279
night that wasn't true it is your degree and abnormal psychology.

2372
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:08,159
Speaker 6: Although that was a nice touch, I'm telling you, your storyteller,

2373
01:46:08,199 --> 01:46:11,760
you get at it, man, I just it ain't start telling.

2374
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:13,560
Speaker 12: You'd better go sit your ass back in the jail

2375
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,760
than tell two detectives who's who's whose vow is to

2376
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:17,560
seek the truth?

2377
01:46:18,279 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 6: I mean, you keep telling us you have this proof,

2378
01:46:20,039 --> 01:46:21,960
but you won't give it to us. Guy, you prevent

2379
01:46:22,039 --> 01:46:24,439
me from doing my job. Hey, that's on you. Well

2380
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:24,800
how does it?

2381
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:26,399
Speaker 10: How does it work?

2382
01:46:27,199 --> 01:46:29,560
Speaker 6: You call your lawyer, you tell him what that proof

2383
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,319
is and he'll tell you whether or not we need

2384
01:46:31,319 --> 01:46:34,159
to know. Tell him you're gonna call and tell us.

2385
01:46:34,199 --> 01:46:36,319
See what he says. I told my lawyer, I said, look,

2386
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:37,880
I got proofed and can free me.

2387
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:39,319
Speaker 10: Not freeing, but I told him. I was like, look

2388
01:46:39,359 --> 01:46:40,840
I got it out of my and I got proof.

2389
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 6: Man, Okay, I'm gonna be in there zee. I've seen y'all.

2390
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 14: Boy, I've seen him, and give us what you've got

2391
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,319
and we'll go verified. But I ain't told him nothing.

2392
01:46:50,359 --> 01:46:52,039
I said, Look, my grandma will come down here and

2393
01:46:52,079 --> 01:46:54,560
she will talk to you. They calls, HI will pay you.

2394
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:56,560
I'm gonna tell you ready to tell us the whole truth.

2395
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,079
Speaker 6: But if I call him and tell you, I'm again,

2396
01:46:58,239 --> 01:47:00,560
look this, this and that and the third, Okay, I'll

2397
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:01,159
be in there to see.

2398
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:03,560
Speaker 7: Man. What wants to go?

2399
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,640
Speaker 12: Verify your alibi or check into it? Tell us what

2400
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:07,439
it is. If not we're gonna hook you back and

2401
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:08,840
change up takes back over to jail.

2402
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 6: Obligated to check into it. If you say you have

2403
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:12,880
an alibi, we're gonna go check. And what if it clears,

2404
01:47:13,039 --> 01:47:14,960
I get to go home. If it clears you, then

2405
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,560
you would go home. Hold on, Hold on one. Look,

2406
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,920
if you'd absolutely proved, beyond any doubt that you were

2407
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,239
nowhere near there, had no involvement in the murder, if.

2408
01:47:24,159 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 8: You're if you're et dinner a Southeast Miami that week,

2409
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,479
but I still, well, you'd be in trouble for the

2410
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:30,399
credit card stuff.

2411
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,520
Speaker 6: That don't go away. You're trying to tell me what

2412
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,079
you got a clear proof that says you didn't murder anybody,

2413
01:47:37,079 --> 01:47:40,079
weren't even around when these people were killed. Okay, well

2414
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:42,239
you ain't showing it to me. You ain't give me

2415
01:47:42,279 --> 01:47:45,279
no proof, So pretty much h tough ship right now?

2416
01:47:45,279 --> 01:47:47,359
What about like you said, or to the fact, just

2417
01:47:47,399 --> 01:47:49,199
to the fact that after.

2418
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,039
Speaker 9: They were killed, I'm a video when he's fucking you

2419
01:47:51,119 --> 01:47:52,439
a credit card, that's fucked up.

2420
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 6: If I'm out, if I'm a cop, Okay, these two

2421
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:58,359
people are killed and this fuck is cleaning this bank account.

2422
01:47:58,359 --> 01:48:01,399
Speaker 12: Out man out there he said, there was there when

2423
01:48:01,399 --> 01:48:05,800
he got kidnapped, brut out fling the truck said alive.

2424
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,119
Speaker 6: That that could be the definition of not having a conscience,

2425
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,880
getting yours. That's all it was about. I mean ship

2426
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:17,840
that they don't need it, right, But I said, I

2427
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:19,039
ain't killing people.

2428
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:22,600
Speaker 10: Mm hmm, I said I wouldn't. I wouldn't even have

2429
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:23,159
attended to.

2430
01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:27,560
Speaker 6: Kill it, wouldn't. You can you could think for another

2431
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:29,279
couple of months and what kind of story about this?

2432
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,960
But I know you were there, Okay, I didn't know that. Now, this,

2433
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,680
this whole other game that you're playing is real.

2434
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 9: Last bar time, he said, all I gotta all I

2435
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:39,520
gotta do is write you and we can sit in

2436
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:40,920
front of the state attorney as long as I give

2437
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:41,600
him what he needs.

2438
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 7: Right.

2439
01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:44,399
Speaker 6: No, no, no, that's not what I said. I said, we

2440
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,520
need the full young truth. Not not not that's what

2441
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,079
he needs. No no, no, no, no no, that's not I

2442
01:48:50,119 --> 01:48:52,520
want to be very clear about this. I don't want

2443
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,840
you to write on a piece of paper, but what

2444
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,439
you think he would like to hear that might help

2445
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,000
you out of your case. Hold the full truth of it.

2446
01:49:00,119 --> 01:49:03,159
Everything you were there for that you saw, who did what,

2447
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,319
who didn't do? What? What roles everybody played in it?

2448
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:08,720
Who got what? Stuff that was split up from them?

2449
01:49:09,119 --> 01:49:12,319
Okay that we recovered h the stuff that was all

2450
01:49:12,319 --> 01:49:13,920
taken from the house. Hey, that you guys dim it

2451
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,119
up and the hoteld him all that stuff, you know,

2452
01:49:16,239 --> 01:49:18,720
the cheap hotel or even described to budget in when

2453
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:20,720
y'all jumped all that stuff out in there and went

2454
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,720
through again. I want full disclosure, Okay. I don't want

2455
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,560
bits and pieces. I don't want the part that makes

2456
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:29,039
you look good. Okay, I want the full truth. Okay,

2457
01:49:29,119 --> 01:49:31,119
that's what I want. That's what the state attorney will

2458
01:49:31,119 --> 01:49:33,439
insist on before he even considered it.

2459
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,279
Speaker 9: Okay, And I give him all that. I give him

2460
01:49:35,319 --> 01:49:36,960
exactly that. And like I said, stuff to hell him.

2461
01:49:37,039 --> 01:49:39,560
And like I said, if I can show the proof

2462
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:41,199
that I wasn't there, then he'll work.

2463
01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:44,039
Speaker 6: But he'll help me. He will do everything he can

2464
01:49:44,199 --> 01:49:46,960
to show if you weren't there, bullet and I'm I'll

2465
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,880
get Thataddy riting. No, you come over here and tell you.

2466
01:49:51,079 --> 01:49:54,000
I can't make you a promise. Okay, he has to

2467
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:55,560
come over here, now, that's just what you're saying. If

2468
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:57,319
if he does that's between you and him.

2469
01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,039
Speaker 10: And if he gets and like I said, he gets

2470
01:49:59,039 --> 01:49:59,520
the whole.

2471
01:49:59,359 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 6: Truth, you would have to talk to him about how

2472
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:02,039
he wants to hear.

2473
01:50:02,319 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 12: And not only would he have to look at it,

2474
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,720
would have to evaluate it and verify it if you

2475
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:07,800
have a credibility issues.

2476
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,319
Speaker 6: Like what I'm saying is I can't I can't tell

2477
01:50:10,319 --> 01:50:12,119
you what he's gonna do. Okay, what was That's not

2478
01:50:12,199 --> 01:50:13,960
all wrong? We aren't involved in that part of it.

2479
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:17,520
Our role finders. He proves it. Okay, he proves it,

2480
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,279
and then what like I said, there's up to you

2481
01:50:19,319 --> 01:50:21,680
and him. Then what we need to do. That's what

2482
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:23,479
I'm ready to do. Well, the first thing we need

2483
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:26,439
to do is we need to stop bullshitting us on details. Okay,

2484
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:28,560
I'd rather have call my grandma rather than have you

2485
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:30,039
look me in the face and say, I don't really

2486
01:50:30,079 --> 01:50:31,439
want to talk about that right now because I need

2487
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,359
to evaluate some things and to try to sell me

2488
01:50:33,399 --> 01:50:33,960
some bullshit.

2489
01:50:34,039 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 10: I don't want to evaluate shit. That's what I'm trying

2490
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:36,720
to say. Can you call my grandma?

2491
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,159
Speaker 6: I give your phone him, we can call her. He's

2492
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:40,560
don't want to be down here. I would have come

2493
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:44,039
down here. You're telling her Thursday, call her Thursday when

2494
01:50:44,039 --> 01:50:47,359
you're supposed to and have her come down. Okay, Can

2495
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:50,239
y'all give me a visit? Winnn wait and arrange to

2496
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:52,279
have you talk to her. Let's do it, Let's do it.

2497
01:50:52,800 --> 01:51:11,119
Speaker 15: Let's get right, all right, sit tip for him.

2498
01:51:11,359 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 1: I walk straight line, shackle change, Oh gesome girdie, it's

2499
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:28,359
calling my name. There is no mercy, and it's been

2500
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:37,000
a tentery juice as the Hillstream game wrangled the three.

2501
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 3: I'm here, be by me or die inside these walls,

2502
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:53,800
inside the wild, and't went more girls.

2503
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:56,600
Speaker 6: I know it's so

2504
01:52:02,199 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 7: Very accola, very ang