WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:30.480 Hey everybody, it's Tuesday, May twentieth, twenty twenty five. Welcome 2 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:33.880 to the Giant BombCast, Episode eight hundred and ninety one. 3 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:38.079 I am your host, jan Ochoa joining me co Captain 4 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:40.799 of the Ship. He's a master of improv and he's 5 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:43.159 training to be a mime as we speak, but he's 6 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.960 gonna break his valve silence to deliver the news. Co 7 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:47.280 Captain of the Ship, Jeff. 8 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:49.840 Rub Jane, you're really good at timing out that YouTube 9 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:51.320 bang look faded in perfectly. 10 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:53.799 I'm really impressed. Good job, buddy, Thank you so much. 11 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:56.079 Speaking about timing, he's the master of all time. He 12 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:58.799 wears twelve watches, but you can't see them. Guess where 13 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.320 he's hiding him, Dan Reker, I. 14 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:03.439 Usually wear one watch, but i'm not now because this 15 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:05.680 is when I charge it. That's a fun little anecdote 16 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:06.159 for folks. 17 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:10.519 Speaking about charging up, he's constantly charging up because he's 18 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:14.400 constantly low battery mode, but he's exceeding the battery limit 19 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:18.120 that your phone automatically sets you to. Master of energizers 20 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:22.640 energizer batteries. He's our own bunny of the team. Jeff Beckler. 21 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:28.000 Oh that's me. I'm the battery. He's the energy guy. 22 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:31.480 That's the funny part of the intro is that I. 23 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.040 Damn, why do you put why do you charge your 24 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:36.359 watch during the waking hours? 25 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:39.719 Because it does the sleep tracking thing now, so it's 26 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:41.319 like I didn't I used to do it when I slept. 27 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:43.519 Then it's like, you do it when you're awake now 28 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.000 so it can track your sleep ram and all that. 29 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.640 Apple's position is like, there's gonna be a point where 30 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:51.280 you can't use this, and that sucks. 31 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:52.959 I mean, you're gonna sit down at some point during 32 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:54.519 the day and I don't want to charge it when 33 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:55.439 I'm up and moving around. 34 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:57.200 I'm missing steps that should be tracking. 35 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:57.480 You know. 36 00:01:58.079 --> 00:01:58.640 That's fair. 37 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:00.959 Yeah, thanks Jan. I'm glad to be here, Bud. 38 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:03.840 And I'm glad that he's here and that he's on 39 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:04.439 our team. 40 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:04.719 Now. 41 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:09.039 He's a boy of games media. 42 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:14.240 He's overcome with the power of music and anarchy. Mike 43 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.680 Manati speaking up, bunnies, give me a moment. The Zootopia 44 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:22.120 two teaser trailer dropped. I'm watching this. There's a steak now. 45 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:24.960 I think the cops are bad in this one. They're chasing, 46 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.919 They're chasing the Fox and the bunny Girl. 47 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.800 No, never mind, now I'm into it. Mike uh Lelan's 48 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:34.719 Stitch up date. I heard the live action movies. Good? 49 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:37.159 Oh good, because I have to see it anyway, So 50 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.680 that's great that I might actually be good have to 51 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.840 you know what I'm gonna say, Yes, I think I 52 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:47.759 think have to is the worst your head situation. No, 53 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:51.439 but like the nephewniess want to. I do like Leelo 54 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.319 and Stitch, Like you make a live action snow White. 55 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:58.360 It's like, well, that's that's not even real to me, Like, that's. 56 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:01.400 Not what do you mean It's not real to you? 57 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:04.840 That's like just not a real thing. Actually, the cartoon is. 58 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.639 The cartoon is hugely real and incredibly important. It's been 59 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:10.680 more real. Yeah, yeah, it's it's you know, but I 60 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:12.719 don't like that's not a part of my personality the 61 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:16.879 way maybe Leland stitches. Uh if that God, that sounds 62 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:18.680 like a bad thing to say, but true. 63 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:23.240 Nonetheless, Hey, Ohanna means family, and family means no one 64 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:24.280 gets left behind. 65 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:27.159 I have breakfast with Leelo and Stitch in Dasy World 66 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:28.039 and it was great. 67 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.560 I'm not attacking you. I'm trying to be on your side. 68 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.719 I'm just excited about the sausages I had at o'hana, 69 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:38.479 which means family. If someone forgot him up behind. 70 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:41.240 I'm sorry. 71 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:45.080 I think we should start a movement to just transport 72 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:49.280 all of the games media events to Hawaii. Oh, sure 73 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:50.439 should go here. 74 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:54.039 I've never been. Oh there's a hotel there. 75 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:57.360 Hey wait, you've never been to Hawaii? 76 00:03:57.719 --> 00:03:58.680 No, yeah, I've never been. 77 00:03:58.840 --> 00:03:58.919 No. 78 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:02.800 Well, no, Jeff, I understand. But Mike finds himself at 79 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:06.639 Disney eleven times a year, and I'm like, man. 80 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:13.560 Has more things than just to go west, go west. 81 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:14.919 More Between a couple. 82 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:16.839 Of trip things that have come up recently, I'm learning 83 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.120 about his very specific travel requirements lately, like. 84 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.319 I won't go see the Juggals. 85 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:29.480 Three different trips. It's pretty different trips where he's like, actually, no. 86 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:34.600 I have some housekeeping. I want to bring it out 87 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:37.000 to it. So, first of all, obviously the biggest of 88 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:41.720 thanks to everyone who's who's gotten up and supported what 89 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:42.839 we're trying to do here. 90 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:44.240 No, what do you mean? 91 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.040 I was just making a joke about you saying nice things, 92 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:49.319 and I pretended to be stupid. 93 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:50.879 It's that you got I gotta got it, got in 94 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:53.160 my bed. We can try that again later on the podcast. 95 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:54.920 We'll circle back. 96 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:59.839 So I've been messing around up in the guts as 97 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:03.079 it we of our payment systems and whatnot. If you 98 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:05.920 are in the unique situation out there, you're listening to 99 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.040 the podcast and you're like, man, I tried to fucking 100 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.759 support these guys, and I tried to do it through PayPal, 101 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.439 and I'm getting PayPal decline payments or whatever it is. 102 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:17.240 We figured out what's wrong, and we figured out a 103 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:18.920 way to fix it. You should have gotten an email 104 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:22.319 from us at some point in the last seventy hours. 105 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:25.240 Check those spam folders, shake out all the dust, make 106 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.319 sure all the quarters and coins and paper clips fall 107 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.360 out of those pockets, and then you're gonna want to 108 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:36.279 go and reattach your PayPal information to our site in 109 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:39.040 the billing section. If you don't know how to do that, 110 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:41.360 reach out directly. We can tell you how. But we've 111 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:43.680 for the people who are affected by this, we've gone 112 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.680 ahead and removed the connection. So all you got to 113 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:47.959 do is get back on go to the billing section, 114 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.279 re add your PayPal credentials, and you should be all set. 115 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:54.319 I know that sounds like a lot, but if you 116 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.480 are confused still, you could always email us support at 117 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.519 GiantBomb dot com and we will get you sorted out. 118 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:04.439 That is the housekeeping p s A for the day. 119 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:06.360 Uh take it away, Jan. 120 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:10.160 Thank you for for keeping the house. Mister Backlar, that's 121 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:12.639 that's that's right. He keeps the lights running. That's why 122 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.560 he's the battery. That is a circle? 123 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:16.240 Yeah? Yeah? 124 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:17.480 Yeah? 125 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:18.959 How's everyone doing? How was everyone? 126 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:20.399 How are things? 127 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:23.360 Do we have? A was yesterday a three day weekend? 128 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:24.639 Or am I imagining that? 129 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:25.000 No? 130 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:32.240 What that's next week? Maybe today? Yesterday? Jan? 131 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.319 I know, but I was here sitting at my desk. 132 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:39.199 Yeah, what the fuck's a weekend? Jan? You'll have to explain. 133 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:43.199 I don't know what those are either. It turns out 134 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:48.240 looking for new apartments. Uh in San Francisco is a. 135 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.480 Dog ship that doesn't fun. 136 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:53.360 You know how the housing is tied to someone's employment, 137 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:57.959 not my own, otherwise I wouldn't have one. Uh So yeah, 138 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:59.519 I got to figure out how to move all this 139 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.319 ship that I've accumulated and this couch. 140 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:06.360 Uh great? Is that heavy? It's heavy? 141 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:10.040 And also it's missing like the footy pad things? 142 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:12.120 Sure to make it so you can move? Yeah? 143 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:13.800 Do they have, like furniture repairman. 144 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.000 Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's. 145 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:20.720 A repairman for Just come to the Yellow Pages for that. 146 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:24.079 Well, I mean, yeah, you probably honestly just. 147 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:26.279 Look up furniture and I bet furniture repairman will be 148 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.920 right there. But yeah, carp fix things I have, that's 149 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:29.399 the question. 150 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:32.040 I well, yeah, Actually that thattails directly into something I 151 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:35.120 was about to think about, was that my cat has 152 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:39.360 been very good, not destructive or anything. But despite the 153 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.480 fact that we put big ass scratch posts and stuff 154 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:43.399 right next to this nice couch we have in the 155 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.199 living room, it really likes scratching the nice couch, and so, like, 156 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:48.199 what happens if it just rips up the back of 157 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:49.600 the couch, what do you do? 158 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.480 It just does just you own a cat, now, yeah, 159 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:55.639 there are things to do there, but you got I mean, 160 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:57.279 you've got to try things. You gotta try a bunch 161 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:58.879 of different things before you find out what the cat 162 00:07:59.000 --> 00:07:59.920 likes more than the couch. 163 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:04.480 Okay, ship, Yeah, okay, that's the one complain Otherwise, been delightful. 164 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.800 Yeah, if you yes for that sort of thing, you 165 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:10.600 can definitely get something reupholstered if that, If that's the 166 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.439 concern or whatever. Yeah, you can fix furniture that. 167 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.360 Way, just add like like like stem cells where there's 168 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:18.600 like just furniture cells that will like spread and just 169 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:25.279 form whatever. No machines cloth, Oh, you can just will 170 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:26.720 match the previous cloth. 171 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:28.920 Well, they might have to reupholster the whole thing. 172 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:29.439 I don't know. 173 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:32.799 It's it's it's gonna depend. I don't care about this anymore. 174 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:38.639 I've watched Minecraft five times in the last the movie 175 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:39.799 He's the movie. 176 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:45.039 Yeah, big important question. Do you resent your children? 177 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.159 This is like one of the ones where I'm beginning 178 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:51.000 to get there. Yeah. I like that pretty high tolerance 179 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.159 for most of their bullshit. In fact, I end up 180 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.159 liking most of it, even like the dumb ass YouTube 181 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.279 videos that's just nonsense or created by a computer somewhere. 182 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:02.639 I'm like, yeah, this is like sort of a punk 183 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:07.559 rock version of YouTube. I'll watch this. This is getting 184 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:11.679 to be a bit much. It's Jack Black. Like I 185 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:13.960 like Jack Black or have in the past. It's too 186 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:14.919 much Jack Black. 187 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:18.720 I want to I want to paraphrase this tweeter, not paraphrase, 188 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.320 I'm just gonna quote the first five words from Jeff 189 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:24.879 Gersman on Blue Sky. After seeing Minecraft, it isn't a 190 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.279 bad movie? Do you disagree? 191 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:29.960 I think it's. 192 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:34.440 It's so forgettable, forgettable that it might as well be bad. 193 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:38.960 Like it's just nothing matters. And then the only times, 194 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.399 the only time anything happens that, like the kids are quoting, 195 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.720 it's just Jack Black sort of yelling something or singing 196 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:45.080 his song. 197 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.519 This feels very much like the Pixels movie, right, like, yeah, 198 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.360 that's right, Yes, that's. 199 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.440 A good. 200 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:57.200 Yeah. Yeah, although I think there are people who like. 201 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:59.919 Free Guys Guy, it's fine. 202 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:06.200 Yeah, where like I don't think you would call Pixels fine, right, 203 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:11.679 that's yeah. I never like Kevin James, Fox pac Man 204 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:12.639 or something like that. 205 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:13.879 It's Cuba. 206 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:15.080 Most Kevin James movies. 207 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:20.000 You can't not with that attitude. I mean you don't, 208 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:20.600 but not. 209 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:23.519 Okay, he has the sun. 210 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:26.320 There's a pack Junior. How do you think that happens? 211 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:28.799 I'm saying, a human person couldn't fuck pack Man. 212 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:30.919 Why. 213 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:34.480 Well, you know it's terrible that MythBusters ended, right, So. 214 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.360 I'm just thinking about that show the Studio where they're 215 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:41.159 talking about sucking the kool aid guy. 216 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.879 No, we cannot go back into the kool aid man 217 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.279 discourse because I still haven't been able to get over. 218 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:50.679 Is the kool aid Man the kool aid or is 219 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.399 he the picture yet? 220 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:55.240 Honestly? 221 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.399 Okay, I mean that's like the same thing with regular show, 222 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.720 like is Benson gumbo gumball machine? Or is like he's 223 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:04.679 a gumball machine? Sure, okay, So why can't you apply 224 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:06.080 the same logic to the kool aid Man. 225 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:09.000 We did. We got there eventually because like you. 226 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.440 The kool aid Man, you shouldn't he be called like 227 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:12.200 the picture. 228 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.480 Man that you are just splitting the airs. Brother, you 229 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:18.080 can do it in a way that I am not 230 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:20.360 okay with, like with whatever. 231 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:22.320 Yeah, that's true. 232 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:24.799 It's fun to see what the auto mod catches. When 233 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.000 we're doing this podcast. Dan saut Yo and you can't 234 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.080 a human can't fuck pac Man and cat powered and 235 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:32.279 Chet says yeah, because you have to make love to 236 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:32.799 pack Man. 237 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:36.720 You can through anti romance YouTube. 238 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.360 You just had my office door closed on me. So 239 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.240 that's the kind of podcast it's been so far. 240 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:44.600 Here. My favorite thing about pac Man, to make this 241 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:47.279 about video games again, is that they made all these 242 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:51.600 weird pac Man spinoffs like Miss pac Man, Professor pac Man, 243 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:54.360 like Super pac Man or whatever, and none of them 244 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:56.919 are called pac Man two that they made this weird 245 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:00.440 game for the Supernintendo and Genesis where you kind of 246 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.919 like poke pac Man around a slink shot to make 247 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:08.759 himself puzzles, and that's called pac Man too. Yeah, that's 248 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:10.480 one of my favorite things in video games. 249 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.799 Who Pa lineage is real fucked up because he had very. 250 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:15.480 Clear you know pac Man and Miss pac Man, and 251 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.080 you have all three d adventures, you have these weird 252 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:18.840 side scrollers. 253 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.000 It's just all over the place. There is like a 254 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.159 segment of video games, especially the earlier ones, where it's 255 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:29.440 like the idea of one called like two is weird. 256 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:31.919 Like Tetris two is like going really strange. 257 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.279 I think like puzzle type games, you know, like which 258 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:35.519 I would kind of throw package. 259 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:36.320 I guess it's just. 260 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:39.519 More of an arcade game, but a maze game, right, Yeah, 261 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.600 but Tetris two is a very weird one. 262 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.519 It's like a concept. You can't have a sequel to 263 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:44.039 a concept. 264 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:46.879 Yeah, yeah, that's right exactly. Tetris is like a set 265 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:52.679 of rules never changed. He's had all the bombs. 266 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:55.600 It's just not Tetris. I mean it's Tetris, but not as. 267 00:12:55.519 --> 00:13:00.360 Good Tetris too. Yeah, give me Tetris Attack, which actually 268 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:02.600 just paneled upon tetrisphere. 269 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:05.960 We can't talk about this, We can't talk about the 270 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:06.759 spear anymore. 271 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:12.519 I'll throw my deck in a blend for tetrisphere. 272 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.600 And that stuff you can catch if you watch live. 273 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.759 That was on the pre show. It comes way out 274 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:24.360 of place if you didn't hear the pre show. 275 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:26.639 Such all right, I guess let's just go ahead and 276 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:27.720 talk about video games. 277 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:36.159 Ship playing was like coming with a pussy said that 278 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:38.679 Carey tweets. 279 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:44.679 Yeah, that's that's that's a Drew carry Oh god. Speaking 280 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:48.879 about Two's Capcom Fighting collection. Two came out last week. 281 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:52.519 We did a quick look of it and a upf 282 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.080 where we played a lot of Powerstone two. Uh, gents, 283 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:57.840 I understand that a bunch of you have played this. 284 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.120 How are you are you digging the collection? 285 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.240 I love it. It's a bunch of bangers. It's like 286 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:05.559 there's a ton of good games in there, and they 287 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.320 did a great job of making sure that they're easy 288 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.360 to play. Get in there and have fun. And that 289 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.519 upf where we were bouncing around between a bunch of 290 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.960 games was a really good time. Would you like there 291 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.720 have been some aspersions cast upon Powerstone and its ability 292 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:22.559 to convey fun. What is happening? 293 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.600 What's this anti POWERSTONEGT coming out of nowhere? What? What? 294 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:26.399 What? 295 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:27.120 Wait? Is this? 296 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.960 I got to ask, is this like the Smash community 297 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.440 like hating on Powerstone sitting now? 298 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.279 Powerstone is more fun than Smash Brothers. 299 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:35.799 Okay, to be cleared, But you don't have to say 300 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.960 that because it's not the Smash community. It's a calm down. 301 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:42.600 I'm just saying if we're talking about that, all right, 302 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.639 But I do think like Powerstone is not a game 303 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:47.519 that you're gonna be playing for eight hours the entire 304 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:50.960 night you're hanging out with your friends uninterrupted. But the 305 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:52.960 fact that it's part of this compilation where you can 306 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:55.159 bounce back and then it's like all right, now, let's 307 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:57.519 go play more Powerstone. I think it's like the perfect 308 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:00.200 vehicle for a game like that where it's like, okay, 309 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:02.200 like we've had our time doing a one on one 310 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:04.600 fighter where one person's playing against one other person, but 311 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:06.159 we're all kind of sitting here. Let's get all four 312 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.919 people involved again. Let's go back to Powerstone. It's kind 313 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:11.399 of a good balance. The whole package works. 314 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:13.679 Like Powerson two is the four player one, but Paraston 315 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:15.919 one is still one v one, so you know, if 316 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.720 you need to have that, it's there too. A yeah, 317 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:21.720 And if you want to have the sweaty fighting game experience, 318 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:24.960 there's games like that here still Cap Conferences. S a 319 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:27.759 K two is just one of the best kind of 320 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:32.399 pure pixel two D fighting games in that like Original 321 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.399 Street Fighter two lineage of games kind of like that. 322 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.519 It might be my favorite one up there with Third Strike. Right, 323 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:41.600 it's still still good good. I've been playing a ton 324 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:44.360 of it. I've been doing ranked matches and mostly losing, 325 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:47.360 but still having a great time because the game just 326 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.200 feels so good to play. All the different grooves, like 327 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.039 the different ways you can kind of play the game, 328 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.360 and the different ways you even set up your team 329 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.480 where you could have just one character has a ton 330 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:59.080 of health and power, where you could have three, where 331 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:01.919 it's spread out more so, I'm just fighting all sorts 332 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:04.159 of interesting teams. It is an old game, so there 333 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.120 is a meta figured out, so sometimes you're gonna come 334 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:09.039 across the people who are just doing like Sagat and 335 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:12.559 Blanca and you know, Bison or Cameo or whoever else 336 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:15.279 is supposed to be very good. But generally people are 337 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:17.480 kind of messing around a lot, I think, and playing 338 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:22.919 more interesting character is doing silly things like a level 339 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.799 four Shinakuma stuff like that. It's been really fun playing online. 340 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.559 What I was surprised by was it Project Justice and 341 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:31.360 what was the other one? 342 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.840 Project Justice and Plasmas Sword. 343 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.159 Yeah, those were in They were both Dreamcasts, right, their 344 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:39.720 arcade is what you're but they were almost all of 345 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.279 these games were on Dreamcast. Okay. 346 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:43.080 It made me think that, like, you know, like Soul 347 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.720 Caliber is my most played game ever, the original Dreamcast one, 348 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:47.240 and it makes me think, man if I would have 349 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.200 branched out and got some more fighting games on Dreamcast, 350 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:51.279 I probably would have been like all about those things. 351 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:54.039 Oh yeah, I mean, what a good system for fighting games? 352 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:54.559 Absolutely? 353 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.639 Yeah, those are surprisingly fun, Like it's just oh yeah. 354 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:01.080 Capcom had been making fighting games for some time at 355 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:03.759 this point, so even when they were experimenting, even when 356 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:05.799 they were going three D, they were really kind of 357 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.799 crushing it across the board. Yeah, I'm gonna play more 358 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:09.799 of all those games. 359 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:12.200 Yeah, and Plasma Sord is really easy kind of pick 360 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:14.440 up and play, kind of like Soul Caliber in that 361 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:16.799 sense where you can't kind of mash around and cool 362 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:19.559 stuff's going to happen. Project Justice is a little bit 363 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:22.440 more complicated, but it's very silly also. It's all like 364 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:25.319 high school students and their teachers being up each other. 365 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.519 There's these really silly team up attacks. Like one the 366 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.279 characters is the school's nurse. She has all these like 367 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:35.240 chiropractor moves that she's doing with grapples and her specials. 368 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:39.160 The guy who plays like Reu looks like a middle 369 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:41.799 aged math teacher, so that's fantastic. 370 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:43.759 Oh, the guy with the shoulder pauldrons and everything. 371 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.880 And with the Star Wars Voldos there's two of them. 372 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:49.000 That was plasma swords. Oh yeah, that was great. 373 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:49.319 I like that. 374 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:51.160 Yeah, Prince Saturn, Yeah. 375 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:53.920 Saturday in prints and yeah, they were just big sillies, 376 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:56.480 big cs. And that's the game too, where the lineage 377 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:00.359 goes back to it maybe being a Star Wars series, 378 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:01.759 and then that didn't happen. 379 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:04.960 Tara Kazi they were gonna try it again, that's that. 380 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:07.680 Yes, Yes, I think I think Terras Kazi happened instead 381 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.000 of their well, Tara Cozy was ps one. 382 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:10.720 I'm trying to think time. 383 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:13.400 Yeah, but there was a there was a game before play. 384 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:16.000 This is a sequel to a game called Star Gladiator, 385 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:18.599 and that's the one that Star wars and that's as 386 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:19.119 one game. 387 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:20.119 Yeah, got it. 388 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:24.240 I for whatever reason. 389 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:26.680 The first Street Fighter game I ever played was on 390 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:29.079 the p S one and it was Alpha three and 391 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.200 my main was Rolento, the guy with a pipe. 392 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:35.720 Oh yeah yeah, grenades? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 393 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:36.480 What's he from? 394 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:38.480 Is he from? I think he's from alf isn't he? 395 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:40.000 I thought he was just from Alfa. 396 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:41.720 He's not from like Final Fight or something like that 397 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:42.640 or whatever. 398 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:45.440 Okay, I'm just I'm looking at images right now of 399 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:47.519 the first Street Fighter. I don't think I've ever played 400 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:49.640 this game. Is there a more forgotten original game? 401 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:51.160 Yeah? 402 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:52.880 I think that's right, Like it's. 403 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.119 Never in these collections. It feels like like it's. 404 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:56.759 A completely different kind of game in a lot of ways. 405 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.440 It's like you only play as for you and and 406 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:01.200 you kind of go through a couple of for you. 407 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.039 You could be Reu and Cannon. It's basically a boss 408 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:05.200 rush and you can one be won those two characters. 409 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:08.799 The physics are really weird. It's not a pretty game. 410 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.440 It it is in the Street Fighter thirtieth anniversary code. 411 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:13.000 Isn't that ok? 412 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:13.440 Okay? 413 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:15.559 Yeah, it's it's all fun to play now, No, it 414 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.759 was a street Fighter two is one of the it 415 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.160 is the all time best sequel leap ever, it's it's. 416 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.480 Like in any medium, like anywhere, like any The gap 417 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:28.319 between street Fighter two and street Fighter one is like 418 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:30.680 you can fit the rest of the world inside of that. 419 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:33.599 I was about to argue Terminator two being but here's 420 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:35.599 the terminator who's the best sequel. But Terminator one is 421 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:36.599 still really fucking good. 422 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:37.759 Ye, exactly. 423 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:42.000 The chasm, isn't it very It's a different thing. Yes, 424 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.119 street Fight one, I think I've only ever played on 425 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:49.039 a DOSS version on my computer thirty years ago or 426 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:51.119 something like that, so I want to I should track 427 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:53.200 down like the actual like Arcade Cave. 428 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:55.640 It's weird because it's not this good game, but it 429 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.200 has this really interesting lineage because all the people who 430 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:01.000 made that quit went to S and K made Fatal Fury. 431 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.400 The first actual sequel to it is Final Fight, Like 432 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:06.519 Final Fight was I think maybe gonna be called street 433 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:09.319 Fighter two at some point. Then you actually had street 434 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:12.400 Fighter two after Final Fight. So it's this weird game 435 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:14.960 that just like spawned all this great stuff. 436 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.440 Yep, I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know the 437 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:19.480 Final Fight thing. 438 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:21.480 Yeah, Rolento, Actually it is from Final Fight. 439 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:23.960 Oh okayeah, yeah, a lot of those Final Fight fights 440 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:26.319 in the same universe. So a lot of those Final 441 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:28.839 Fight characters eventually show up in Street Fighter Alpha and 442 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:30.039 for and other games. 443 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.319 Oh, Mike, we have so much to talk about. You 444 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:36.000 can explain the whole history you planed all this time now. 445 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:42.039 Street Fighter or Alpha three was also awesome. Like I 446 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:43.599 was just really enjoying that Copper. 447 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:43.960 Yeah. 448 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:46.160 I did run into the problem as a kid, and 449 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:49.160 then we kind of like buffed up against it in 450 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.240 the quick look of like all the isms in those 451 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:55.839 games are just like we're super confusing the same. 452 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:58.319 But yeah, like you got to just kind of ignore 453 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.160 it until you understand it, right because like for the 454 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:03.519 way that we're playing it, it doesn't actually change all 455 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:06.079 that much at least that seems to be my interaction 456 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:07.400 with it so far. So I kind of just like 457 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:10.039 pretend it doesn't exist for the most parting. 458 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:12.000 If I had had like a friend that was really 459 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:14.119 into it and could just have told me that back then, 460 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:16.440 I bet I would have been really into it because 461 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:19.119 I love fighting games a ton as a kid. But then, yeah, 462 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:20.799 the isms and the grooves and all that, i'd see 463 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:22.240 them be like, what the fuck, I don't understand what 464 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:22.759 I'm doing here. 465 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.079 Yeah, and Catcrome Prosis K two isn't timidating that because 466 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.240 it's like, immediately, here's six grooves, here's thirty characters. Pick 467 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.880 one or three of them, now pick the ratios for them. 468 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:36.279 It's like, what is happening? I want to just do 469 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:36.960 a hadduke in. 470 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:43.119 Yep, yehep exactly speaking about doing a haduken and the grooves. 471 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:46.759 The roads generally have a lot of grooves. 472 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:48.160 There's nothing with a haduke in there. 473 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.359 Actually, no, you got the grooves though. The groove isn't 474 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:55.319 the heart, just as well as Roadcraft seems to be 475 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:57.119 Ian Jeff Grubb's heart. 476 00:21:57.960 --> 00:21:58.160 Yeah. 477 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.759 Yeah, So I've spent some more time with this. This 478 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:02.680 is the game that is making me continue to think 479 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:05.279 that my CPU is fried. I did update my bios 480 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.440 and everything, and it just won't work until I restarted 481 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:11.559 my computer today. But whatever it is that there's a 482 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:13.559 lot of cool stuff going on in this game. So 483 00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:15.400 as a reminder, I talked about it last week it's 484 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.279 a construction game. You control a bunch of different. 485 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:20.160 Vehicles, but it does some cool stuff where. 486 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:23.599 It's like it's not all on you. Part of it 487 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.160 is like you can set up some routes for computer 488 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:30.160 controlled trucks to like take some other stuff while you're 489 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:32.880 working on either something else or maybe to clear the 490 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.799 way for them as they're coming down the road whether 491 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:37.240 there could be something in the way, And that means 492 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:38.880 that gives you a lot of reasons to be in 493 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:41.920 the cool vehicles. It's not just about like you hauling 494 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:44.640 stuff the way that mud Runners or snow Runners was. 495 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:47.000 It's like, no, that stuff is being hauled right now, 496 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:48.799 and if you don't go over there and like open 497 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:51.599 the fence at the easy side or clear off all 498 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:54.200 this debris on the more difficult side, they're just gonna 499 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:55.519 get stuck and you're you're not going to be able 500 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:58.200 to complete this mission. So it's like, Okay, great, that 501 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.000 means I'm going to go get back in this bulldoze 502 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:01.559 and I'm going to use that to clear all this 503 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:03.839 stuff off the road again. And that's like the game 504 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:06.039 finding a way to ensure you're in the most fun 505 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:10.480 vehicles most of the time. It also like, I think 506 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:13.440 it strikes the right balance of making sure that you're 507 00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:16.720 doing all of the stuff required to build a road 508 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:21.200 versus bypassing that to make sure you're getting back to 509 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:24.759 the fund as quickly as possible. For example, there is 510 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:26.880 a segment where you play as a truck with the 511 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.119 crane and you got to pick up all these big, 512 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:32.160 heavy slabs, and I started doing that last week and 513 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:33.839 I finished it this week, and it was cool because 514 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.559 it's like, Okay, I actually do get to control the crane. 515 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:39.119 Move it over, I can lift it up, I can 516 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:41.559 put it down, move it left right. Latterly, I can 517 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:44.400 extend it, I can drop the rope. I can control 518 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:46.359 the length of the rope. So I have full control 519 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:48.319 over this crane, and I'm going to pick up these 520 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:49.720 slabs and I just kind of had to drive them 521 00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:52.720 across the street put them in my base, and now 522 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:55.519 that they're in the base, they can at that point 523 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:58.880 magically teleport to all your other bases. So it's like, Okay, 524 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:01.279 I got to do some fun stuff, and now the 525 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:03.839 game's gonna make it also pretty convenient for me to 526 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:07.359 reaccess those resources when I get to the other side 527 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:08.640 of the map. And it's like, shit, I wish I 528 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:12.279 had that stuff. Well now I do, so it's pretty 529 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.920 wisely designed in terms of that stuff. And then I'm like, Okay, 530 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:17.559 I keep playing the game, and I'm like, this would 531 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:20.000 be pretty fun multiplayer because there's just like everyone could 532 00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:22.519 be doing their own thing and working towards a common goal, 533 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.240 and I think they really emphasized that with this one. 534 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.039 So I'm kind of excited to see how that works. 535 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:28.640 So that means I'm gonna make you all play at 536 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:28.960 some point. 537 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:31.319 Okay, I'm rocking at screenshots of it, and I might 538 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:33.640 have might as well have just typed make a Jeff 539 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:34.599 Grub game into chat. 540 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:39.279 Yes, yeah, it really super is. And it's like, you know, 541 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:42.240 like I do like big trucks, I found out, Sure, yeah, 542 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.000 but it's really the physics, like anytime you have a 543 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:49.480 big vehicle that has to like move through mud and 544 00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:52.559 get around trees and things like that, And I could 545 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:54.960 see how the tires are sort of like slipping and 546 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.599 sliding and then catching the mud, and how the mud 547 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:00.839 gets deformed because of the tire interacting with that's just 548 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:01.799 my ship in this game. 549 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:03.119 All of that. 550 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:05.279 Yeah, I can make it. I can make it sound 551 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:05.839 more sensual. 552 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:08.640 I mean, there was something that triggered me. I was 553 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:10.240 reading an email and then all of a sudden I 554 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:12.359 heard you going off on mud in a way. 555 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:20.960 That I don't play any of these games, yet somehow 556 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:24.000 I want to play this one. I did really like 557 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:25.720 that one part and then chared it four where I 558 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:28.279 had to like winch a jeep. So do you think 559 00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:30.000 based off of that of have a good time. 560 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:33.000 Here that is based off that part of the game. Yes? 561 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:35.480 Interesting, of course they basically just took that and made 562 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.519 that a video game. You are gonna winch so much 563 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:39.319 ship in this game. 564 00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.119 Oh my god, that's going vertical for win. 565 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:45.920 You know, I feel like we've made it a point 566 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:47.640 and a goal to try and make some of Mike 567 00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.640 Manatti's dreams happen, like being a skipper on like the 568 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.200 Jungle Cruise. Jeff, do you want to like drive a 569 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:54.160 big ass toe truck? 570 00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:57.160 Yes? I want to make that happen. We can super 571 00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:57.519 make that. 572 00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:00.119 You should. You should do that cross country for to 573 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.680 get out to SGF. You should drive. 574 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:05.440 Start driving now? 575 00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:07.279 Can we can we get one of those ones that 576 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:10.400 looks like Mader from Cars for him? 577 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:13.440 I would do that I'm fine with that. It's just 578 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.640 a little crane truck crane on it. 579 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:15.920 Yeah. 580 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:16.279 Please. 581 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:17.359 I was eighteen. 582 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:19.400 I made a commercial for a tow truck or like 583 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.279 a big rig company, and I was supposed to go 584 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:22.680 out to this truck lot and we had to get 585 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:24.799 three trucks together to have them all do this thing 586 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.480 for the commercial. And two of the trucks didn't show up, 587 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:28.799 so I just had to sit in a big rig 588 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:32.759 for like three hours while the driver listened to Christian 589 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.920 rock radio and talk to me about Jesus fun. 590 00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:38.960 Okay, all right, fund Yeah, And that's why some tow 591 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:40.799 trucks have like a crucifix in the back. 592 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:42.039 Exactly right. 593 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.839 Yeah, speaking about driving, A couple of us have played 594 00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:48.279 deliver at all costs quickly. 595 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:48.799 Now in the. 596 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:50.839 Site, there's a winch. You can do a winch. There's 597 00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.839 plenty of wench in there. Yeah, you haven't got the wench. 598 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:55.799 You got to get a blueprint for it and build it. 599 00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:57.880 Yes. I like the doors. 600 00:26:57.960 --> 00:26:59.519 The door thing. That's where I'm at. 601 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:01.480 I think I'm locked one more things since then, but 602 00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:03.359 that's the first thing I unlocked, and I'm like, oh 603 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:04.000 I get it. 604 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:04.279 Now. 605 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.799 This game is gonna be fun. It's just do fun stuff. 606 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:10.039 The door thing's hilarious because like, yeah, that's the first 607 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.559 thing you unlock, and I've yet to find an actual 608 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:14.680 use for it. By the way, this is delivered, Oh god, 609 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.720 the quick Look is up. Now you're driving around, you're 610 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.720 delivering stuff kind of like isometric almost like GTA style. 611 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.960 You know, it's very very fun with a ton of destructibility. Yeah, 612 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.599 just driving straight through buildings. That's the moment I saw 613 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:26.799 that thing. 614 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:28.359 It feels so good. 615 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.039 But the door thing, Yeah, you unlock a thing where 616 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.519 on your company car, if you hit circle, it opens 617 00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.279 up both the doors and the hood hood. And the 618 00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:36.880 only thing I found to do with that is like, 619 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.119 if I'm driving by a sidewalk and someone's walking, I'm 620 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:40.799 like the door checkers, you know. 621 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.160 It's like hitting them with a seven iron. 622 00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.599 They just go flying. Which there's a thing watched the 623 00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:47.160 quick Look. 624 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:48.920 There's a there's a mission where I have to deliver 625 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.039 a bunch of thinking watermelons and keeping in the truck. 626 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.920 And I went back to it when I had upgrades, 627 00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:56.839 and so I had spike wheels and things like that, 628 00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.400 and I don't know how many times in this quick look, 629 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:01.440 I would just go up to a car with my 630 00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:05.400 truck full of watermelons and shear the edge off the car, 631 00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:08.359 and then the drivers like corpse would fly into the 632 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.880 bed of my stinky watermelon trucks and like, I don't 633 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:13.279 think they're supposed to die, They're supposed to stand back up. 634 00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:15.640 But since they were like rolling around with all these watermelons, 635 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:22.799 there's just these bodies freaking out and indibles me get 636 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.480 bombed a million times while trying to deliver a trampoline 637 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:27.759 to a navy base. I think it's just a bunch 638 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.519 of really wacky delivery missions where it's like the melon 639 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.000 one is, Oh, this guy's trying to sell these stinky, 640 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.640 shitty watermelons to like a tiki bar, and they're like, 641 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:37.799 we don't want these, they're stinky, So you take it. 642 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.000 You spray them with pesticides to get all the bugs 643 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.400 off them, and then you paint them green and then 644 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.440 you drive them back. And then there's another one where 645 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.480 it's like a guy wants to impress a girl with 646 00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:49.480 a fish he caught, and so there's this giant swordfish 647 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:55.640 and then you also paint the swordish. Yeah, so there's 648 00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.640 painted sword fishes on the back of your truck, just 649 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:00.720 flopping around like crazy, and you have to drive through 650 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.000 like stinky fish barrels to feed it so it doesn't 651 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:03.920 die or whatever. 652 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:05.279 And it's alive in your truck. Bade. 653 00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.119 Yeah, it's just freaking out in your truck. Oh man, 654 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.200 It's just so silly and fun. The destructibility is great, 655 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.039 Like I always hate it in games where it's like 656 00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:15.240 any driving game where it was like, you know, one 657 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.640 of the gta's where you hit a light post or 658 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:20.160 something and physics are too realistic and it's like I 659 00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.119 gotta get back up to speed and all that this 660 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:24.400 is you're just plowing through shit like crazy. 661 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.359 It makes me think of like geomd Red Faction stuff. 662 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.680 Or h I mean blast Core. I mean last Greek 663 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:31.359 Mike brought that up on the Quick Look. Yeah, it's 664 00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.559 totally that. But yeah, super super goofy. I mean, if 665 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.920 there's criticism I'd give is that, like there's some pacing stuff, 666 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:39.319 Like I'm pretty far out of the game now, I'm 667 00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.440 eight or nine hours in and there's like a lot 668 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.119 of story stuff and it's like the game is quirky. 669 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.359 I like the whole presentation, but I don't like the 670 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.799 story enough to dedicate this much time to it, you know. 671 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:51.960 That was gonna be my question, Dan, Like, it starts 672 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.319 off with quite a bit of story, Like once you're 673 00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:55.920 in the game and you're driving around, it's the game 674 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.119 and you're driving around, but there are this segments in 675 00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:00.440 between some of these missions where it's like we're gonna 676 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.559 you're the character's gonna be talking and he's gonna tell 677 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:03.720 you what's going on. You're gonna have to go talk 678 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:05.720 to other people as well, And I'm like, so that 679 00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.440 doesn't sort of like fade away. It kind of maintains 680 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:09.000 at that level. 681 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:10.799 If anything, it's kind of been doing more of that 682 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:12.920 to the point where I have started playing it a 683 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.359 little more. Is like a podcast game, you know, where 684 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:16.960 it's like I'm listening to something or watching something in 685 00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:20.400 the background because like, I don't know the presentation. I 686 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:22.759 like the story, I'm not super into it is like 687 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.759 a sixties you know, like some alien stuff, some like 688 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.119 you know, paranoia, government agent type stuff. But it's I 689 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.319 don't know, it's not the strength of the game. The 690 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.200 strength of the game, it all doesn't matter, right. It's 691 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.440 all very silly to the point where it's obvious. Then 692 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.559 none of the story match. Yeah, where every mission the 693 00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:42.359 fun part is like, okay, what is the gimmick? Heure like, yeah, yeah, 694 00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.960 Princey's positive, So it's like, okay, delivering a fish, getting 695 00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:48.359 bombed on a golf course, you know, just goog like 696 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:50.839 having to drive this car into a volcano that type 697 00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:51.119 of shit. 698 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:51.319 You know. 699 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.960 Yeah, the goofiness kind of reminds me of like Thug 700 00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.400 one and Thug two of like, hey, this is a 701 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.640 very off kilter mission. And then I do enjoy the drive. Mike. 702 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.319 You said something interesting about like it being isometric and 703 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.200 like kind of enjoying that view more because you see more. 704 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.279 And I guess that's never clicked with me with like 705 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.480 isometric driving games. I haven't really like clicked with them 706 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.799 in the past. But for whatever reason, maybe it's because 707 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.279 I can crash through everything in this game and not 708 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:19.200 get really penalized. It's it's great, right. 709 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:20.720 Right, go ahead, Mike. 710 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:22.680 Sorry, but you know, like isometric, it's it's like it 711 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:24.759 has that vibe, but really it's more of a top 712 00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.039 down thing. It's like the old GTAs, right, it's in between, right. 713 00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:29.759 Kind of between because there's a bit of a slant 714 00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.880 to it where yeah, there's an angle it's and it's yeah, 715 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.079 it's it's RC program. 716 00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:36.319 If you squid right, you can you. 717 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:37.759 Can choose if you want to do like kind of 718 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.640 like tank perspective controls or you know, just like yes 719 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.200 in the direction, what are you guys doing default tank controls? 720 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:46.319 I mean, I'm I love the old DTAs the tops. 721 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:48.400 I'm you, I love RC pro am I'm used to that. 722 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:54.039 Are are any of those original gta's worth revisiting? I I, 723 00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:54.839 you know, I never. 724 00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:59.119 Chat that's good because that's like and that that's one 725 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.000 where they kind of burned formed by all the stuff 726 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.119 they did with like three and by sitting in San Andres. 727 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:06.680 But it goes back to that top down perspective and 728 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.880 it's got just a lot more going on. It's awesome. 729 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.480 I think it's one of my favorite gt I never 730 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.200 played those Hotline Miami games that are again more. 731 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.720 Inspired by the original. It's a little different. These are 732 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.279 just like straight up action. 733 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.759 Games, right yeah, yeah, driving around like GTA one and 734 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.960 two were like transformative for me. I mean just the 735 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.519 openness of it and just the tone and they had 736 00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:26.240 a fart button. 737 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:30.079 I was I was in there GT two and just 738 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:31.759 being like, this is awesome. And then me and my 739 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:33.640 friends have been like, I can't wait for them to 740 00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.079 make this into three D, and we basically described gt 741 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:37.880 A three to each other and it was like then 742 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.480 they delivered. It was awesome. There are some other GTA 743 00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.359 inspired games that have come out recently, American Fugitive and 744 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.559 Grand Theft. I think I just call it Grand Theft Horse, 745 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:49.119 but I don't think it's actually called Grand. 746 00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:53.160 Theft Horse, but there is, Yeah, exactly. 747 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:55.960 There's another top down one like that that are pretty good. 748 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:58.160 I think it's from the American Fugitive people, so I'll 749 00:32:58.160 --> 00:32:58.599 look it up. 750 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.519 I might out Chinatown Wars. 751 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.680 It's it's so good played on a real three like 752 00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.000 three DS or DS, because like you do need to 753 00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:09.960 use the stylus a lot for like some like diffuse 754 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:11.359 about them in games and stuff. 755 00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:15.400 What was the PSP version stories and city story? 756 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:18.160 No, but they poureded Chinatown Wars the PSP, did they? 757 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.920 Oh wow? And I don't think it's the ideal way 758 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:21.599 to play that game. 759 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.720 Yeah, probably not? Like, Yeah, I played a ton on DS. 760 00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:27.519 Yeah all right, all right, I'll go dig out my DS. 761 00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:31.680 Uh speak about quick looks that we did for games. 762 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:32.160 Recently. 763 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:34.880 We also did a quick look for Doom the Dark Ages. 764 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.559 Mike Minatti, I understand that you have now been playing 765 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:38.759 Doom the Dark Ages. 766 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:40.279 Yeah, I have been. 767 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:40.559 Uh. 768 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.119 I played the Maternal not too long ago, just about 769 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.079 a month ago, getting ready for this, and it's it 770 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.400 is so nice that this isn't just Doom Maternal too, 771 00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.799 and I like doing Maternal quite a bit, but I 772 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.039 love that the mechanics here are different, that you get 773 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.359 the shield and it's not just a gimmick parentheses negative. 774 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.640 It is a core part of the experience doing this 775 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.079 shield dashing blocking stuff and pairying stuff. And I get 776 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:06.599 like some people are being a bit snarky, like, oh, 777 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.800 I guess we're just gonna put Perries into more games 778 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.400 and make them better. And I'm like, that kind of 779 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:18.920 problem with it, right, give me a burnout, especially when it's. 780 00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.760 Very generous in Doom that at least on the default 781 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.239 that Perry is easy to hit. 782 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.320 You can even like there's a slider for the Perry time, 783 00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.119 you can even just mess around with it. But yeah, 784 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:32.000 it's very generous. It's not necessarily about the hardware time. 785 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:36.239 There's that one enemy in Doom Eternal that was one 786 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.119 of the few that had this perry windows like the 787 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.679 only way to really attack him. And it was pretty rough. 788 00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:43.280 It was kind of forgiving. It was a tough fight. 789 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.119 I liked it. I think it it rough with a 790 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.079 lot of people's feathers because it was very difficult and 791 00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:48.920 it was very rigid with the way you had to 792 00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:50.519 fight this skuy but You Eternal had a bit of 793 00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.960 that where the specific ways you had to attack certain 794 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:57.239 enemies was very rigid, like even those those flying orb guys, 795 00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:58.960 like you're supposed to shoot a rocket in their mouth 796 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.880 and that kind of gets them and one hit. And 797 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.719 the glory kill thing, which was cool. That was so 798 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.760 much a Doom maternal like glory kills are almost omnipress 799 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.400 and almost oppressive. Just how much you were depending on 800 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.320 that to stay alive and here at least, you know, 801 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:14.840 I'm like in the first seven levels, I just did 802 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.760 that first big dragon riding one. I feel like there's 803 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:19.960 a bit more jazz in the way I can play it, 804 00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.679 a bit more free form. And by the way, flying 805 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:26.079 around on a dragon in that level is really cool. 806 00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.480 I liked that a lot. There's some rigidity there with 807 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.559 like oh there's an invisible wall, or when you like 808 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:34.880 lock onto an enemy, he sort of just like somewhat 809 00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.519 awkwardly snap into place facing them. But I also didn't 810 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.039 really care because it looked really cool and it was 811 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:39.599 really fun. 812 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.599 Do you guys find like the dragon and like the 813 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:48.000 Kaiju segments? Does it? Does it break up the pacing 814 00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:50.960 too much? Or is it it breaks it up? Yeah? 815 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.280 The pacing needs breaking up. 816 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.840 Yeah, Because you know, Mike, I was watching your stream 817 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:57.079 when you were talking about Doo Maternal getting some flak 818 00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.960 for like the super long levels, and I do feel 819 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:01.840 like when I get to like that Atlin, like that 820 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.199 Mech level, it's just like, Okay, last one I did 821 00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.719 was a big you know, scouring all the environments for 822 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.199 every hidden thing and everything, whereas the Atlin ones like 823 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.599 I'm just gonna step on everything and shoot everything with 824 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:13.360 the giant turret. 825 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.519 Like it did feel like it broke up the base 826 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:16.079 in a good way. 827 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.400 Yeah, yep, Mike, I understand you have also been playing Doom. 828 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.760 Is this the twenty eighteen or the original original? 829 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:27.800 This is the og Doom first time or that first 830 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:29.960 time I played it? You know back then? For sure, 831 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.679 and you know it's been poured to everything. But I realized, 832 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:36.360 I don't think I've ever actually played through Doom, and 833 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.519 I've played other these retro shooters getting remastered on my switch. 834 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:42.920 I did Quake that way. I did all of Truck 835 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.239 one that way. Are you doing the new releases the 836 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:46.159 Doom one and two? 837 00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:46.880 Uh? 838 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:49.239 I can't remember if they have a subtimes this Doom 839 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:49.800 one plus two. 840 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.480 I think yeah, so like recently they like re remastered 841 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:56.679 these games on everything. It's not very expensive and it 842 00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.280 has Doom one due two and all sorts of these 843 00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.880 other episodeisodes that got released for it. I'm like, yeah, 844 00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.719 let's play Doom one on my switch. That would be 845 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.400 a kind of a nice I'm looking for something to 846 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.039 play while I'm watching YouTube and bed at night. Right, 847 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.039 this is something that I know is relatively breezy. It's 848 00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:14.679 not gonna have a lot of story that I need 849 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:19.599 to listen to. Doom one still is a ton of fun, 850 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.920 and these remasters are great. I love these things, and 851 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:26.599 I love just being like I'm gonna map Quick Safe 852 00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.440 too up on the d pad and Quickloads down on 853 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.159 the d pad and like I'm gonna say scum like 854 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:34.400 crazy and just play through as much of this game 855 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.400 as possible because who cares. I'm having a good time. Yeah. 856 00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:41.039 I heard nothing but good things about that Doom one 857 00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:42.960 post too. I'd played a little bit of it. It was like, yeah, 858 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:47.519 this is impressive. It is night Dive, right that did those? Yeah, 859 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.039 updated those Yeah, that's you know, just solid work from 860 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:50.760 them as always. 861 00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:54.000 Right, And again, like I'm like on the third chapter 862 00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.159 of Doom, which I think was like there's three chapters 863 00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:58.000 originally I think there's a fourth bonus one. I might 864 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.280 play two, then there's all of Doom two, and then 865 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:03.639 all this other stuff like this Final Doom and it's 866 00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.880 I think it has the chapters that comprised Final Doom. Final. 867 00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.880 There was like a fan thing, right, Uh yeah, it 868 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:13.239 was a. 869 00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:14.280 It got right. But there's like there was like two 870 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.519 times where John Romero can came back and made more 871 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.280 level packs for like a twentieth anniversary, in the thirty 872 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.679 anniversary or whatever, and those are in here. So there's 873 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.480 just a ton of Doom. But even like the old stuff, 874 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.440 like these og levels are still really fun. You know, 875 00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.320 there was something about this playing a game like, man, 876 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:34.440 this was important, wasn't it? You kind of get it. 877 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:36.559 There's even a part of me that because you know, 878 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:40.079 back then they poured a doom to everything and all 879 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.079 the ports had these caveats and blah blah blah, and 880 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.199 we joke now about all this thing can run doom. 881 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:48.320 But it's still a part of me that's like, wow, 882 00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:52.800 this thing is running doom perfectly like that. But just 883 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:57.280 I remember how bad the Super Nintendo Port was, even right, 884 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.639 like the thirty two acts, even though one didn't they 885 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:05.239 pretty store. Yeah, yeah, the three d oh one was 886 00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.239 terrible and you would have thought like that would be amazing, 887 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:08.920 and it's the. 888 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:11.239 GBA one is kind of like weirdly good. But I'll 889 00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.400 still a bunch of those caveats. Yeah, right, so. 890 00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.320 There's still a little one plus two that's a I 891 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:16.360 forgot the Night Dive did that? 892 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:17.159 That sounds awesome? 893 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:19.760 It's awesome. It's great, And these games are still fun 894 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.159 to play, and they're just kind of breezy and still 895 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:26.440 interesting and obviously historically important. I think everybody should play them. 896 00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:33.159 Yeah, I in my basement, after emptying out my childhood home, 897 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.760 I got that. I found that CD. Did I tell 898 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.960 you guys about that? The CD with all the wads 899 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:41.639 on it, so I had I I guess from like 900 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.079 eb Games or Babbage's or what. 901 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.679 Sumps water or whatever like what you have on there. 902 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.400 No, it's it was like a retail thing that I 903 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:51.800 guess back then, like you could just get away with 904 00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.800 selling at a store and no one would really like say, yeah, 905 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:57.119 it was the wild West back then. 906 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:01.159 We were all kids, these kids back then, literally and 907 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.360 exactly it was born. Yeah, exactly, well now you get it. 908 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:08.280 And I found the CD and it was like this 909 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.039 really weird cover jewel case with like this like skull 910 00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.239 on it, and out of the skull was like the 911 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.559 logo Doom. And it was just like, hey, Bud, how 912 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:19.840 would you like ten thousand wads for Doom? And You're like, 913 00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.519 you know, I guess, I'm like maybe ten or twelve 914 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:23.280 at the time, and. 915 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:25.400 I'm just like, fuck, whatever this is, I need it. 916 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.519 And I found the CD and it's it's in the 917 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.639 basement now with all the other personal. 918 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:33.159 We should do a stream where we go through like 919 00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:33.840 some of those. 920 00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.239 Right, I'll need a CD drive. 921 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:40.559 You can get like a USB CD drive for like 922 00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.239 ten bucks on it for fifty eight cents, I bet. Yeah, 923 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:43.800 it's crazy. 924 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:46.440 What the wads. I remember, like, I think this is 925 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.760 the first kind of form of rebellion most people from 926 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.639 my generation had was just wads or AOL flash games 927 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:58.000 where you killed Barney the Dinosaur. Sure it was our 928 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.800 way of being like, I'm not a child and anymore. Yes, 929 00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:01.880 it's for. 930 00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.320 Kids, and everyone's like, yeah, we know, what's your problem. 931 00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.679 Well he should die, Like are you okay? It's like no, 932 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:09.880 get me like ten years and then I'll be okay. 933 00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:11.039 Right this it's weird. 934 00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.800 That was not an autobiography. Right now, I swear. 935 00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:14.559 No, we all did it. 936 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.199 We all are like I did not. I never turned 937 00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:21.440 my back on Barney got here. I was the thing. 938 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.280 I always bemoaned the fact that I never got to 939 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:24.960 grow up with PC games and I missed, you know, 940 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:26.679 Half Life and all this stuff when it was hot. 941 00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.159 And now I'm thinking, like, I wonder if I am 942 00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.039 kind of too blame for that, because I never had 943 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.840 a computer that could play anything. My stepdad had an 944 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:36.840 old Packard bell that was not like powerful, but it 945 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.119 would have been able to play a HESCD rom. I 946 00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:40.719 should have been able to play a Half Life on it. 947 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.320 But he never trusted me with the computer because he's 948 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.599 always gonna get a virus, gonna get virus. Can't put computer, 949 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.280 no games on, it'll get a virus. And then I 950 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.039 used to always think of it like, oh man, he 951 00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:51.039 didn't know anything about games. 952 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:52.760 It's not going to be a virus. What's wrong with him? 953 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.480 But then I realized the first thing I think I 954 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.320 did with his computer when I got it, when I 955 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.000 was allowed to use it, was I went into micros 956 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.480 off paint and I made like a triangle like warning, 957 00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.079 simple thing with a skull on it, and I typed 958 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.880 like warning, warning, serious virus detected, you know, contact and 959 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.960 whatever immediately, and then I made it the desktop wallpaper 960 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:17.360 and connected. Dan got home from school and the geek 961 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:21.679 squad was there and they were like, it's a wallpaper, 962 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.199 like I think you made in paint. 963 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:24.639 Yeah. 964 00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.440 Look, it was like nineteen ninety spive. 965 00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.639 This is the greatest break you can play on a 966 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.320 boomer Ever. 967 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:39.000 He was like, all the experts do you think your 968 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.679 stepdad ever realized when they're like it's a wallpaper that 969 00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:43.840 it's like, oh, this was a prank or did he just. 970 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.159 Wish he realized that I was like screwing with him 971 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:47.599 or something. It was like, well, he can't touch the 972 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.559 computer anymore. Okay, yeah, yeah, and then related it to 973 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:55.079 a Star Wars First Contact Borg screensaver that he bought. 974 00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:58.119 I wonder what the first reaction was when when told 975 00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.840 it was a wallpaper, he was like, okay. 976 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:00.760 And. 977 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.960 Yeah, yeah, I am to blame for that. 978 00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.079 No, no, no, no, not at all. 979 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:11.000 No, norank, it's me. 980 00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.679 Hi, I'm the problem. 981 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:14.039 It's me. 982 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:14.559 Okay. 983 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:18.480 Games are getting weird again, and I am so excited 984 00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:21.079 for that because Dan and I have checked out a 985 00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.280 demo for two Uh tea. 986 00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:26.400 Tell me about this. I'm so excited. I hope it's good. 987 00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:30.679 This starts with one of the best opening songs of 988 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.840 a game, and I realize that's not a common thing 989 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.039 in games, but all games should have like a sitcom 990 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.960 style opening. Yeah. The premise of this game is you 991 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.559 are eighteen, you just turned thirteen years old, and your 992 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.840 arms are permanently stuck in a t pose like position, 993 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:51.400 and that opens you up to a bunch of moments 994 00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:55.280 of hilarity and embarrassment, like, for instance, your mom has 995 00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.159 to make you a very special long spoon so you 996 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.960 can eat cereal. And how the game works is or 997 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.079 for most of it, at least in the demo is 998 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:08.199 you will use both analyg sticks to control different appendages. 999 00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.360 In the initial game, you were kind of just like 1000 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:15.800 using your arms to like poor a bowl of cereals. 1001 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.239 So there's also kind of hilarity that ensues because this 1002 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.760 is from the Katamari guy as well, right, Kita Takahashi. Yes, 1003 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.679 Kita Takahashi, and this has his DNA all over it. 1004 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:31.159 Parentheses positive because God, it's so fucking charming and it's 1005 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:33.599 so fucking fun. I want to befriend the dog in 1006 00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:35.679 this game. The dog is so helpful. The dog helps 1007 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.320 you go to the bathroom because you can't wipe yourself. 1008 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:40.239 Wait, what does he do? 1009 00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:43.800 The door shuts and you can't. You just kind of 1010 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.280 press buttons to make bathroom sounds and stuff, and then 1011 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.519 for your shorts in I can't remember what it does. 1012 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:54.559 Like a play a spaghetti No, I think something more 1013 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:55.920 friendly than the. 1014 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:58.519 Most artful way you could have asked that question, Mike, 1015 00:44:58.519 --> 00:44:59.599 I appreciate. 1016 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.559 It getting Octa Dad vibes from. 1017 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:06.840 Yeah that's okay, okay, I'm gonna go rare fuddy duddy here. 1018 00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:11.119 I like Octo Dad because it's got this kind of 1019 00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.280 Goofy physics thing going on with challenges tied around it 1020 00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.519 and everything. And I love Katamari. I just love the 1021 00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:19.840 actual act of the rolling the ball around so and 1022 00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:22.920 the personality obviously in the music this game, the demo 1023 00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.719 you know, had like the personality. It's got this great 1024 00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:28.119 song and stuff, It's got this great look and everything. 1025 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:32.559 I just feel like the gameplay itself is very simple 1026 00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.400 in a way that like did not like after like 1027 00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.119 the fourth or fifth little vignette of like okay, move 1028 00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:41.480 the analystick to move your face towards the water, move 1029 00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:43.440 the spoon towards your mouth. It's like, Okay, I get 1030 00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.440 it's just gonna is this just gonna shuffle me from 1031 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:49.039 just like Goofy vignette to vignette without like I've been 1032 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:51.039 Warrior where when there's like a challenge and a speed 1033 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:52.840 to it, and like, I just feel like the game 1034 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.599 part of it was not really grabbing me from what 1035 00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:57.719 I played. I love the tone, love everything. It seems 1036 00:45:57.719 --> 00:45:59.800 like Conda be good for kids for sure. It's just 1037 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.320 I didn't feel any kind of like gaminess or challenge 1038 00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:03.719 or anything. 1039 00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.599 Yeah, I wonder if it opens up more game elements 1040 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:08.440 later because can you. 1041 00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:11.280 Guys describe like just a little bit more what the 1042 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:12.079 game play is actually. 1043 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:14.360 So it's like, let's say when you're making cereal, it's like, okay, 1044 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.000 so the box is over here, the spoon is over here, 1045 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.679 and so like each analog stick controls an arm and 1046 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:21.519 then like I think it's the bumpers or like grip, 1047 00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.760 So like you move the left arm to the cereal, 1048 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:25.920 you hit LB to grab the thing, and then near 1049 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.920 analog sticking like pouring the cereal in the bowl, and 1050 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:30.199 then you're that like as. 1051 00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.519 You're doing it's like something with one arm it's affecting 1052 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:34.360 the other arm because it's kind of like t posing 1053 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:35.159 or that thing is. 1054 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.000 It's not really like you know, when I think of 1055 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.119 like octodet, it was using the physics and stuff to 1056 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:40.760 like there were real challenges like how do I get 1057 00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:41.559 this thing over this thing? 1058 00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:42.559 How do I get over there? 1059 00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:45.199 This just feels very it almost feels like quick time 1060 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.039 events in a way where it's just like now I 1061 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:48.440 do the thing with the left arm, and now I'm 1062 00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.239 doing the thing with the right arm, and there's no 1063 00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.760 real kind I didn't see any real fail states or anything. 1064 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.559 I'm just kind of like kind of interacting with this 1065 00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.199 kid as he's trying to eat cereal. You know, it's 1066 00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.360 like I love the concept and everything, I just didn't 1067 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.000 find it that fun to play, you know. 1068 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:05.400 Okay, yeah it uh and we're all anime experts here, 1069 00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.760 but it does feel like a slice of life anime 1070 00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:11.039 type of delio where you're kind of just like inserted 1071 00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:14.840 in this kid's day. It is stupid charming though. 1072 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:17.159 I accidentally looks really nice. 1073 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.199 I accidentally put a hat on my dog, and now 1074 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:24.440 I just want hats on all dogs, to be honest. Yeah, 1075 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:30.039 the demo's pretty light in terms of gameplay, Dan, did 1076 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.440 you figure out what the coins you were collecting? 1077 00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:34.440 Do? No? 1078 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.960 Okay, all right, no, no I have not. 1079 00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.159 There are definitely like other like outfits and stuff that 1080 00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:42.400 you can unlock, but I didn't really play enough to 1081 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:42.760 get those. 1082 00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:43.320 Yeah. 1083 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.960 So the game games called Twit and it's out May 1084 00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:46.920 twenty eighth. 1085 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:48.840 Is that you, guys? Is that release state sound. 1086 00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:49.039 Right to you? 1087 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.480 That sounds about right? Yeah, there's currently a demo out 1088 00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.920 on Steam right now, and it's one of those delios 1089 00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:00.239 where your progress carries over so awesome, no good, Yeah. 1090 00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:03.360 Eventually unlock like s. 1091 00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:03.440 Or p. 1092 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.559 Do you s pose like you like it's like those 1093 00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:11.599 the Egyptians doing the Egyptian thing. 1094 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:15.519 Mike, it's not even a week. 1095 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:18.039 But that's bad though. 1096 00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:22.400 Oh god, percent of each boys. 1097 00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:26.079 I was doing with the spot of arm that was 1098 00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:28.480 it was. It was more like a sea I was doing. 1099 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.119 Mike, you were just hutting right the hit dance. 1100 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:34.719 Okay, I can't believe. I can't believe. 1101 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.320 God, oh no, I want to see that. 1102 00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:40.360 No, it's that channel. 1103 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.400 No, no, no. 1104 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:44.440 What a disappointment. 1105 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:45.960 Egyptian dance. 1106 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.599 What okay, Yeah, well we'll we'll wait for you to 1107 00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:51.239 figure out if it's offensive. 1108 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:53.320 Betrayal. 1109 00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.920 What Ai says, whether Egyptian dance, particularly belly dancing, is 1110 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:00.960 offensive is a complex issue with very affect. Is That's 1111 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.480 not what I bet if I was belly dancing. 1112 00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:14.199 Yeah, happier it's And that's why I'm continuing to make 1113 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.679 the argument we should sell crop tops in the Giant 1114 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:18.199 Bomb store. 1115 00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:21.760 Agreed, Agreed. I I have heard that that would be. 1116 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:23.599 That would be a smart idea to make good crop 1117 00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:24.559 tops for our stuff. 1118 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.400 Fantastic, fantastic. Speaking about weird games, I've been playing a 1119 00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:31.760 little bit of this, not enough to be able to 1120 00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.400 talk about on the podcast, but I picked up Promise 1121 00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:35.760 Mascot Agency. 1122 00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:37.000 I tried that. 1123 00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.199 Yeah, it's made by the developers a Paradise Killer, which 1124 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:41.920 was like a sleeper hit from a couple of years ago, 1125 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:43.320 banger of a soundtrack gang. 1126 00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:45.840 And from the. 1127 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:47.960 Early bits that I've played of it, it seems like 1128 00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:51.440 it is kind of like Shenmu in the sense that 1129 00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:55.679 you were just doing miscllaneous chores in a Zootopia like town, 1130 00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:00.760 but instead of animals, they're all mascots for various things. 1131 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:01.800 I was uncompared for. 1132 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:03.840 Like I watched the trailer and it looked like like 1133 00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:05.880 I am a big mark for mascots. 1134 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.199 I think mascots are just the funniest, greatest thing. 1135 00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:10.280 And then it's just like you're driving around it looks 1136 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.960 like this like Open World silly delivery game, like delivered 1137 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.840 aal cause with mascots and stuff. And I played it 1138 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:18.079 it's like a It felt like a visual novel. 1139 00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:22.280 Yes, there was a lot where like the path split, 1140 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.480 where like damn may be less interested, and then like 1141 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:26.360 the freaking me is like all right, give me some 1142 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:26.920 more text. 1143 00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:27.280 Yeah. 1144 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:28.880 I played like twenty minutes on a flight and I 1145 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:30.239 was just like when does the game start? 1146 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:31.719 And then I eventually just gave up on it. 1147 00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:34.320 Yeah, oh yeah, dig deeper because I kind of want 1148 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:35.239 to do a quick look for this. 1149 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:35.920 Yeah. 1150 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.400 I've heard good things about it, but I also heard 1151 00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:40.960 maybe it's not for me. I mean, it's overwhelmingly positive 1152 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:43.199 on stand you seem to love it. I was like 1153 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.039 trying to like figure out what it was from some 1154 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:46.840 trailers something. Is it like, you know, a physics thing 1155 00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.159 where you're driving around with these mascots and they're bouncing around? 1156 00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:51.599 So I went out, yeah, uh. 1157 00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.719 Also, I wonder like when we're when we're saying mascots, 1158 00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:56.840 do you think that's something universally understood? 1159 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:58.320 Do they have mascots in Europe? 1160 00:50:58.679 --> 00:50:59.639 Surely? Yeah? 1161 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:03.519 Yeah, well yeah, mascots like dress up for football games, 1162 00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:05.119 a man in a suit, like is what. 1163 00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:08.239 We're talking about, shooting T shirts out of a cannon right. 1164 00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:12.280 Land in Paris. They know it's not, but they don't 1165 00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:13.760 call them mascots. 1166 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.800 Right, that's not We're talking like a sports team, right yeah? 1167 00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:18.159 Yeah, like like that Simpsons where Homer becomes the Isotopes. 1168 00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:18.480 Yeah. 1169 00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:21.400 I don't know if football teams have mascots. 1170 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.280 Football instead, No, like soccer football, the real. 1171 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:26.400 Football, the real football. 1172 00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:31.079 Yeah it should though, Yeah, I know I should lend 1173 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:31.639 them Slider. 1174 00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.400 Ryan Reynolds just a big mascot Ryan Reynolds. 1175 00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:38.599 I feel like I've seen the creepy fry dude in 1176 00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:39.679 Europe like twice. 1177 00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:40.280 Love that. 1178 00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:43.559 Yeah, the the palm freed Skuy Yeah. 1179 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:45.719 Dude, Yeah yeah. 1180 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:46.199 It was. 1181 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:52.119 Yeah, japan them. Yeah. I was just like, I'm like, 1182 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.039 I just like want to see some fun mascots. So 1183 00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:57.039 I just googled Japanese mascots and I'm not disappointed. It's 1184 00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:59.760 like it's incredible, famously European country. 1185 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.320 Hen there there was a really fucked up poutine guy 1186 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.239 that I saw in Montreal. This is a please describe 1187 00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.880 this grub. Describe this for the audio listeners, please because 1188 00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:12.239 this I'm normally a big fan of these guys. 1189 00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.360 But what's happening here is that a sumo man. 1190 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:18.800 He's got like he's like crying tomatoes. He's got like 1191 00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.519 a hot dog belt. His mouth is like he's got 1192 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:26.119 like French fried Beard, the like lettuce and cheese are 1193 00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:27.960 coming out between his eyes and mouth. 1194 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:29.559 It looks like nonsense. 1195 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.280 He looks like he's like the best Canada can do. Honestly, 1196 00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:39.960 no heading America right now, let's go everybody. 1197 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:44.599 Come all right, and the last game on the docket here. 1198 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.199 Speaking about weird games, Dan, you've been playing skin Deep. 1199 00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.480 Yeah, this is a game that I think I had 1200 00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:55.159 a similar feeling as I do with like promised mascot agency. 1201 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:56.079 No, No, this is more. 1202 00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:57.679 My problem is more than I suck at this one, 1203 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:01.760 because like I heard it was like a funny immersive 1204 00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.480 sim which that's that triggered something in my brain where 1205 00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.880 it's like, Ooh, I really enjoy like you know, Dishonored 1206 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:10.000 or the Newer Prey, Like I think that's really cool, 1207 00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:12.199 and the idea of that with like comedic elements was 1208 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.480 really cool to me, and I believe that it's in there. 1209 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:17.960 I think that, like I can see enough of that game. 1210 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:19.639 I played like maybe a couple hours of it, and 1211 00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:21.599 you can see like, all right, it's giving you a 1212 00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:23.960 bunch of tools and locations and kind of setting up 1213 00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:26.039 the dominoes where you could make some funny stuff happen. 1214 00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:28.320 But I suck so much at it because I mean 1215 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.920 there's definitely a stealth component and I suck at that. 1216 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:33.400 So I feel like nine times out of ten. My 1217 00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:35.920 encounters with enemies would be like, oh, they see me, 1218 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:38.760 and I throw pepper in their face and while they're coughing, 1219 00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:40.840 I try to hit them with the stick or jump 1220 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.400 on them and subdue them, you know. But like I 1221 00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:46.360 think that's a meat problem. I think there's really interesting things. 1222 00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:48.800 Like to kill them properly, you have to like take 1223 00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:50.880 their heads off and like shoot them out of an 1224 00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:52.800 air lock or throw it in the trash, like basically 1225 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:55.320 send their heads into outer space. Otherwise they were like 1226 00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:57.400 sh like suck back in and come back to life. 1227 00:53:58.119 --> 00:53:59.519 But yeah, all the levels I played were like you're 1228 00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:01.800 trying to get these keys and save these cats, And 1229 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:05.800 there are definitely a lot of tumils and stuff where like, oh, 1230 00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:09.000 this soap dispenser thing you can activate and it'll like 1231 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.239 cause a cloud of flammable gas and then you can 1232 00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:13.679 wait for someone to run by it and you can 1233 00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:15.920 throw a lighter at it and it explodes. Like it 1234 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:18.079 just seems like all the tools are in place for 1235 00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:21.599 someone with more patience and skill and stealth mind than me. 1236 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:25.239 You know, I just myself just kept getting caught and 1237 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:26.039 getting frustrated. 1238 00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:28.599 I get this immercier sims are definitely the genre that 1239 00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:31.000 often make me feel like, oh, I'm not creative sometimes 1240 00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:33.239 I'm just like doing the most basic stuff every time, 1241 00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:35.880 and that's like not a great feeling when you're like, oh, 1242 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.159 obviously there are all these tools here I could be using, 1243 00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:39.920 but for some reason, I'm just not making the leap 1244 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.360 to use them in the moment. This one has been 1245 00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:45.760 enabling me to do a little bit more of that, 1246 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:48.519 just because it's like, well, it's pretty clear and I'm 1247 00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:50.320 a little bit better at stealth, so like that has 1248 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.800 opened up some possibilities for me, so I can take 1249 00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:55.599 my time, and I think I just like the way 1250 00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:58.639 it presents itself as here are some like really fast 1251 00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:00.719 quick levels and were can like put you in a 1252 00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:03.199 level for forever. So if you came up with the 1253 00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:04.840 idea last time, we're gonna give you a lot of 1254 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:06.880 the same tools this time, go ahead and try it 1255 00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.320 on this round instead. And that's worked for me. 1256 00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.159 I want to spend some time in Skin Deep just 1257 00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:17.320 because I just like how the presentation is when you 1258 00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:18.840 save a cat and it's just yo. 1259 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:20.280 Yeah, I do like that. 1260 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:21.760 Yes, cool cats for sure. 1261 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.599 This might get me to convert to being a cat 1262 00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:27.360 person or not completely a cat person, but like just 1263 00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:30.119 chill a little bit, chill, chill, bud. 1264 00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:33.440 Dan that the humor is not like a turn off 1265 00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:36.119 for you, because I don't think it's like whacky internet humor. 1266 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.239 But maybe it's adjacent to that. I was too hard. 1267 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.039 It's not you know, like, no, I can't ask cheeseburger. 1268 00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:46.239 It's not that it's so funny. 1269 00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:48.559 No, I think that's a thing again with kids. 1270 00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:52.679 By the way, No, no bury that we bury cheesebag cat. 1271 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.159 I thought we cut off its head and separated it 1272 00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:56.800 from its body and put it in the desert. 1273 00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.119 Yeah, Nope, Nope, we did not bury it. 1274 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:03.440 And well yeah, because what the kids are into now 1275 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:07.559 is brain rot and brain rot and I can has cheeseburger. 1276 00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:08.960 The then diagram is almost like. 1277 00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:13.320 It was ovirginal skippity toilet, wasn't it When you think about. 1278 00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:15.960 Described that was? 1279 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.960 Brain rod sort of is a catch off descriptor for 1280 00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:26.159 like basically memes that people you know age six to 1281 00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:26.880 like twenty. 1282 00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.719 Like, so like if you said brain rot to Dibb, 1283 00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:33.559 would he know? Yes, just a phrase the kids know now, Okay, 1284 00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:34.960 said something about it. 1285 00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.360 He said something about Italian brain rot, which I thought 1286 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:39.400 was soone, and Chad just said, I googled it. 1287 00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:41.159 Italian brain rot is a viral. 1288 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:45.599 Meme ballerina stuff like that, characterized by absurdist humor. 1289 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:46.559 This is not very helpful. 1290 00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:49.960 No, it's it's like it's like they all realized Italian. 1291 00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.360 A lot of Italian ends in like vowels, and they're 1292 00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:56.280 all just sort of doing like caccina ballerina. But up 1293 00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:57.360 there's just doing real that. 1294 00:56:57.480 --> 00:56:59.159 Like when I say, the video game kills z Onus 1295 00:56:59.159 --> 00:56:59.920 pronounced kills the. 1296 00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:05.559 Italian get in trouble for the thing. Look. 1297 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:10.000 Look, sometimes honestly, sometimes he'll come home and he'll say 1298 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:11.920 something and you know what, it's funny. 1299 00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:12.840 It's funny. 1300 00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.320 Okay, it's funny. Sometimes it's funny. A lot of times 1301 00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:19.679 it's like eye roll inducing, and I'm just like, I'm like, 1302 00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:22.079 you know what, I'm glad you motherfuckers never going to 1303 00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:24.559 own a house like I'm you know, I'm happy about it. 1304 00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:26.880 Print with that group. 1305 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.119 Yeah, sorry, Jane, you got the short end of the 1306 00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:30.800 stick on that generational divide. 1307 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:32.480 What can I tell you? Come? 1308 00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:37.239 But no, it's it's funny, Like you know, I think 1309 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:41.039 it comes from it doesn't come from a bad place, right. 1310 00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:43.199 I think it's just that it's just you know. 1311 00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:46.039 It's compared to like what we were doing, like it's like, oh, 1312 00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:49.320 everyone's going to go to school and quote Austin Powers exactly. 1313 00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:53.000 Yeah, there was no jokes, right. 1314 00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:55.960 The thing with the kids, like, I mean, it was 1315 00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:58.079 on kind of like rapid fire for us too, but 1316 00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.960 for for for it's like age group right now, it 1317 00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:05.159 is like four day intervals and it's gone forever. 1318 00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.000 We had good six months of doing cross chops and suckets. 1319 00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:09.119 That's all we had. 1320 00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:11.440 Yeah, I think it went longer than that, but it 1321 00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:11.599 was a. 1322 00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.400 Few years actually, and then again no six and nine. 1323 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.920 But yeah, we quoted we had a freaking Ace Attorney 1324 00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.960 Pet Detective and we're saying, alright, I'm sorry, Mike, what 1325 00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:22.320 was I'm sorry, Michael? 1326 00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:22.760 What was that? 1327 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:27.719 Can you repeat that? 1328 00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:30.840 See me? 1329 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:31.880 Rewind? 1330 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:35.920 Did you confluct yourself to it in your own brain? 1331 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.159 You've conflated Ace Attorney? 1332 00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:41.519 Yeah that's right. 1333 00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:43.599 Yeah, that's the game. 1334 00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.559 That's the game and the movie Detective. 1335 00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:49.039 Okay, someone needs to make the collad. 1336 00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:54.079 We never knew we needed Pet Detective. And I was like, 1337 00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:57.039 I think I think that's all right then I finished, like, 1338 00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.119 I got it. 1339 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:03.039 You could just slip that by. 1340 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:05.119 Did scare me? I was like, shit, rewinde, what did 1341 00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:09.519 I actually? Oh my god? 1342 00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:10.159 Oh got it? 1343 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.440 God, Okay, I got that. 1344 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:15.480 First attorney had a really problematic ending. 1345 00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:18.960 It's a big problem. 1346 00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:24.239 I saw that when I was twelve. I was like, yeah, 1347 00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:31.440 but worth but all right, chicken jacket. 1348 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:35.000 Sorry, my kids been saying that NonStop for the last weekly. 1349 00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:37.039 Might have to exploit to them that that actually isn't 1350 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.159 a joke. But that's not gonna help. This is gonna 1351 00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.119 make no, No, it's not gonna help because again, like 1352 00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:44.679 half the things we were quoting for movies, like Jim 1353 00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:48.239 Carrey said something fun in a funny way already said 1354 00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:49.400 smoke then. 1355 00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:51.039 And that's still harmless? 1356 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:52.320 Are we kids today? 1357 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.599 We'll understand the power of Jim Carrey in nineteen ninety 1358 00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:55.239 four had. 1359 00:59:56.400 --> 00:59:59.320 They're exposed to him and Sonic So that's the onboarding. 1360 00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:01.480 Sure, But I'm has there ever been an example of 1361 01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:03.840 an actor in our lifetime that dominated, like a period 1362 01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:05.800 of time more than he did in our life? 1363 01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:07.800 Specifically nineteen ninety four, Jim. 1364 01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:09.639 Carrey, like wait, Will Smith had a real good run 1365 01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:12.360 there for a b okay Na ninety four was the 1366 01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:14.960 Mask and Dumb and Dumber, and like the next year 1367 01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:18.280 was freaking Batman forever. Ye right, so it was just 1368 01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:20.480 unstoppable for a bit there. Yeah, you're right, it's the 1369 01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:21.880 it's the top. Nothing beats it. 1370 01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:26.920 Yes, uh, folks, that about does it for game talk. 1371 01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:30.320 Look forward to a couple more quick looks popping off 1372 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.239 later this week. In the meantime, we're gonna go take 1373 01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:34.880 a quick freaking break and we will. 1374 01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:37.400 Be back with the news News. 1375 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:41.639 I feel a yearning, a yearning to sit in some 1376 01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:46.320 bleachers drinking alcoholic beverage and down some glizzies, perhaps not 1377 01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:48.559 nine of them, but I also have a yearning four 1378 01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:53.480 the news All. I also have a yearning to know 1379 01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:54.920 how much Deliver It All costs? 1380 01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:55.280 Is Dan? 1381 01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:57.480 Yes, I forgot to mention in the quick look and 1382 01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:00.719 during the conversation earlier that it is free at launch. 1383 01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:03.039 I saw the chat saying so on the Epic Game 1384 01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.239 Store if you want to check it out, it should 1385 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.239 be free on Epic Games for like a week. Yes, 1386 01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:08.880 I want to check it out. It seems a good one. 1387 01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:09.719 Check out for free. 1388 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:13.599 That's a apparently did that before, So that's that's pretty 1389 01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:16.679 cool that they returned to do that. That's like the 1390 01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:19.760 kind of thing where it's like, here's a free game 1391 01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:21.280 that came in a long time ago. I'm like, I'm 1392 01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:23.159 probably not gonna go track down Epic for that, but 1393 01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:24.840 in this like moment where it's like free in that 1394 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:26.599 first week where it's like, oh I should act or 1395 01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:28.679 else I'm gonna lose the chance, that actually does make 1396 01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:31.000 me more likely to go there and get that. Yes 1397 01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:36.239 you should. Mike Manatiuh, Randy Pitchford corresponded, can you please 1398 01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:37.760 tell us what's happening on the streets? 1399 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:38.039 Yeah? 1400 01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:40.119 I was like, is there like you're gonna talk about 1401 01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:41.719 the Randy Pittford thing, right, And you guys didn't know 1402 01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:45.519 us talking about Randy may have had his uh don't 1403 01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:47.119 you have phones moment? Here? 1404 01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.079 No phones? What was that? 1405 01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:53.480 That was when everybody's really mad when Blizzard announced Diablo 1406 01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:56.440 Immortal because they did not announce the Double before yet 1407 01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:58.320 and people did not want to phone the double game. 1408 01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:00.199 Then the guy was like, you all, don't you have 1409 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:00.880 phones on? 1410 01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:01.519 Got cho? 1411 01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:01.840 Okay? 1412 01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:04.920 Oh that's or what was the the Adam or Microsoft 1413 01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:05.920 like deal with it thing? 1414 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:06.519 Do you remember that? 1415 01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.880 Yeah? Yeah, he got he got kind of like reamed 1416 01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:11.639 for that, and that was a real unfortunate thing. 1417 01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:14.639 Yeah, you know the whole like, we have a we 1418 01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:18.920 have a system for for or broke gamers. This the 1419 01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:20.920 Xbox one, right or the Xbox three. 1420 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.760 Christy, people could use more media training. 1421 01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:26.320 It turns out, well, so Randy's rake. It was interesting that, 1422 01:02:26.519 --> 01:02:29.639 like he this tweet happened a week ago, but it's 1423 01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.519 just picking up now where he was like promoting Borderlands 1424 01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:35.000 for then some some person just like, hey, Randy, this 1425 01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:37.679 game better not be eighty dollars, don't take that risk. 1426 01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:41.800 Blah blah blah. And Randy responds, a not my call. 1427 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.239 B if you're a real fan, you'll find a way 1428 01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:50.639 to make it happen. Oh god. Then he starts doing 1429 01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:52.719 like a hole back in my day, I paid eighty 1430 01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:55.840 dollars for starflight for Saga Genesis and worked, you know, 1431 01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:58.519 five jobs and walk fifteen miles and stuff. Okay, you 1432 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:01.760 know that thing. So again, it's like happened a week ago, 1433 01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:04.960 but everybody's noticing now and they're yeah, it's getting out there, 1434 01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.280 and it's just it's not a it's not a great look. 1435 01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:08.719 Let's say, I. 1436 01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:11.280 Mean because like eighty dollars price tag. We were talking 1437 01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:13.559 about this somewhere else, maybe it's a Gameless Mornings or whatever, 1438 01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.199 but it's like every every single of these eighty dollars 1439 01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:19.079 games are going to be under even more scrutiny because 1440 01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:21.320 people are gonna be looking for reasons to be like, you, no, 1441 01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:23.559 tell me why this thing's worth eighty dollars, And so 1442 01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:25.039 if you give them a reason, it's like to be 1443 01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:29.440 mad instead that's just going to like poison everything for you. So, 1444 01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:32.559 like these things that could be small or be ignored 1445 01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:34.880 in other circumstances, in a moment where it's like now 1446 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:36.920 you're charging eighty dollars for your game, people are going 1447 01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:38.519 to make a big stink about it because they're mad. 1448 01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:41.800 It's you are You are bringing the impulse by afication 1449 01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:46.400 as close to zero as possible, and that's not great. 1450 01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:49.599 And there's something really toxic and maybe even problematic about 1451 01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:53.199 trying to leverage a person's perspective of themselves as a 1452 01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:56.079 fan with their ability, like how much they're gonna pay 1453 01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:57.320 for something. 1454 01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.599 No true Scotsman would miss out on border Lands four. 1455 01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.880 I you know, I don't I don't like commenting on 1456 01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:08.920 anyone's appearance or body shaming here. 1457 01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:11.679 Oh but but but go ahead and do it. 1458 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:14.719 I'll do it here the photo floating around with this 1459 01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:16.519 quote of a if you're a real fan, you'll find 1460 01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:20.000 a way to make it happen. Someone someone in his 1461 01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:23.199 camp needs to fucking fix his suits. Dog Like I 1462 01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:25.599 hate to be the menswear guy on like Blue Sky 1463 01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:29.480 and Twitter, but like, Homie, fucking unbun your ship stop 1464 01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:32.119 looking I know that he wants to look like a magician, 1465 01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:34.239 but stop looking like a magician. 1466 01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:35.159 That doesn't. 1467 01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:40.400 Like John Goodman in season four of Righteous Gemstones and 1468 01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:45.079 like the thing is, John Goodman pulls that ship offs. 1469 01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:49.719 Randy here years older than No he got the backler. 1470 01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:51.280 He looks like Brother Love. 1471 01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:57.159 And again Brother Love pulls that ship off. It's like 1472 01:04:57.239 --> 01:04:58.800 he doesn't know he's wearing a gimmick. 1473 01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:03.320 Now he doesn't. Yeah, and he lives it. Brother, So yeah, 1474 01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:05.280 of course he's not wearing agamic That just is his life. 1475 01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:14.760 The Bruce Pritchard of the games industry. 1476 01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:13.320 All right, I bet the body positivity. 1477 01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:17.519 There we go. Other news, Nintendo has filed a new 1478 01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:21.440 trademark for Sings two thousand and seven DS adventure game 1479 01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.920 Yo Hotel Dusk room two to one flo Oh my god. 1480 01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:29.320 Tend have filed a new trademark for a Hotel Dusk 1481 01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:31.280 to room two one to five in Japan, which is 1482 01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:35.719 raising speculation about a potential remake. As whatever these like 1483 01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:38.599 trademark things happen, always pointing out like you know, sometimes 1484 01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:40.440 there's just a lawyer sitting in a room going through 1485 01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:43.079 paperwork and being like, I should take a look at things. 1486 01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:45.840 We should renew trademark's on. It's been a it's been 1487 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:47.360 a long time, and we like have to do that. 1488 01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:49.960 We have to be on top of trademarks, because that's 1489 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.039 one if like you don't use it, you lose it. 1490 01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:55.719 So a lot of times that's what happens. But Hotel 1491 01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:58.159 Dusk does feel like one where it's like, I bet 1492 01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.679 they wouldn't take the time to do that when unless 1493 01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:02.000 something was actually happening. 1494 01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:07.039 Can you get my games coming like the game's coming back? 1495 01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:11.039 A yeah, absolutely. I help last Windows with it because 1496 01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:14.400 I never actually played that the sequel. So although because 1497 01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:16.360 these were the games where you played on your ds 1498 01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:19.199 like a book, and I really liked that aspect of it, 1499 01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:22.039 and you can't replicate that on a switch or whatever. 1500 01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:24.719 But still, well, I guess I'll take it. Yeah. 1501 01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:26.960 I wonder if they would just like do a side 1502 01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:30.239 by side on the horizontal screen, right, it would be weird. 1503 01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:31.840 There's not one puzzle where you had to close the 1504 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:33.880 DS and like I didn't realize it and I was 1505 01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:35.280 stuck for a very long time. 1506 01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:40.320 Yeah. I we should do a some sort of retrospective 1507 01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:42.119 on that kind of thing, because like or like hitting 1508 01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:45.039 the reset button on X Men on the Genesis when 1509 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:47.519 they're like, you have to reset the machine in the game, 1510 01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:49.679 that's all they tell you, but you're actually reset on 1511 01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:51.360 your actual Genesis to make it go. 1512 01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.840 There's like ten from Middle Year solid we could do between. 1513 01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.840 Yeah, yeah, I love that bullshit either way, Okay, so 1514 01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:02.559 maybe a little bit of more smoke here is that 1515 01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:07.760 sing The developer Ciing has recently worked with Nintendo to 1516 01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.679 bring back some other games, which is its dual collection 1517 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:14.840 of another code and that's another code recollection, which was 1518 01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:17.360 two games they released like last year I think, and 1519 01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.440 those were I think those were also like with those 1520 01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:25.199 DS games, there was we we Okay, Well, either way, 1521 01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:28.039 they've worked together before to like bring some other games back. 1522 01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:30.480 There's a possibility here that maybe this is just Hotel Dusk, 1523 01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:35.360 so yeap, okay d all right, So yeah, then there's 1524 01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.639 some evidence here that they've done this process before with 1525 01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:40.079 the studio with one of their games. So I think 1526 01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:40.880 it's worth getting. 1527 01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:42.880 Your hopes up for at least a re release. 1528 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:44.519 A new Hotel. 1529 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:47.679 Dusk will up to see another updates. The first another 1530 01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:51.159 code was DS, the second one was WE. Okay, there 1531 01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:51.519 we got. 1532 01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:54.920 So both right, yeah, all right, We've got a whole 1533 01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:57.440 parade of Nintendo stuff here, and then we'll get into 1534 01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:01.000 some Sony news after that. Nintendo taps Samsung to make 1535 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.159 switch to chips and a move that could ramp up production. Really, 1536 01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:08.239 this is just notable for two reasons. One, by going 1537 01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:11.599 with Samsung as opposed to what everyone else does, which 1538 01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:17.159 is TSMC Taiwan, these semiconductor manufacturing company, everyone else kind 1539 01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:18.520 of does their chips for them because they have they 1540 01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:21.600 do have the best technology. By going with Samsung, they 1541 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:24.399 are probably gonna be first in line have most of 1542 01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:27.880 that production capability dedicated to the switch to which is 1543 01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:30.600 why because of this, people are predicting they're gonna have 1544 01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.439 twenty million units by March of twenty twenty six. They 1545 01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:35.880 should be able to get to that huge number pretty 1546 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:40.239 easily because of that. Also, Samsung's technology being a little 1547 01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:43.520 bit behind does indicate here that there is a lot 1548 01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:46.560 of room for an improved switch to at some point. 1549 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:48.800 So if people are the kind of people that are 1550 01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:51.159 waiting on the sideline because you're like, I know, they're 1551 01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:53.399 gonna do a switch to upgrade or one with a 1552 01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:54.079 better screen or. 1553 01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:54.680 An O LEAD. 1554 01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:58.359 I think it O LEAD with a smaller nanimeter process. 1555 01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:00.760 All that matters is it's more efficient, so it'd have 1556 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.720 better battery life. That's all anyone needs to know about that. 1557 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:07.279 That seems very likely at this point. So yeah, if 1558 01:09:07.319 --> 01:09:09.000 you want to wait on the sideline until there's a 1559 01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.159 ton of switch to games and you're going to get 1560 01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:13.520 an even better version, I bet that happens within like 1561 01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:16.479 two two and a half three years before we get 1562 01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:17.159 something like that. 1563 01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:19.319 Cool, all right. 1564 01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:22.600 Nintendo confirms previously expected switch to feature won't be available 1565 01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:28.039 at launch. In its early documentation, Nintendo said the switch 1566 01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:33.479 Too would support VRR variable refresh rate on TVs on 1567 01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:37.239 displays when it's docked. They have removed all references to 1568 01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:39.840 that and have confirmed that that feature will not be 1569 01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:41.960 in the switch to at launch. When asked if it 1570 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.199 would come later, they said, we have nothing to announce, 1571 01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:46.079 so maybe they could update it. But there are some 1572 01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:49.000 concerns that the way that the DOC actually works, some 1573 01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:51.800 of the components that are in there can't handle VRR 1574 01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:55.039 for some reason that seems possible, so maybe it never 1575 01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:56.880 comes to the docked situation. 1576 01:09:57.319 --> 01:09:58.520 It does still work in. 1577 01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:01.600 Handheld modes, So this is like the equivalent of g 1578 01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:04.359 sync or free sync, if those are terms that are 1579 01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:07.199 more familiar to you. Basically just makes your screen update 1580 01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.560 at the same rate as your GPU, so the tearing 1581 01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:11.479 and the jittering that you get from a lot of 1582 01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:14.119 games running at bad frame rates isn't quite as bad. 1583 01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:17.439 In fact, it's significantly improved. I don't know do you 1584 01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:19.079 guys do do any of you guys even know if 1585 01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:20.520 your TV support VRR? 1586 01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:21.680 I think mine does. 1587 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:23.760 But it's just like every time I go into an 1588 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:27.039 options menu now there's an ever increasing amount of features 1589 01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:28.760 that I don't know if I'm supposed to turn on. 1590 01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:31.920 Or not, like frame generation all this, like VRR, free sync. 1591 01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.239 I just don't know what's good, what's bad, what's taxing, 1592 01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:35.560 what's for lower end computers? 1593 01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:37.960 What's for higher in computers, Like, I have no fucking idea. 1594 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:41.960 I just keep thinking of the Indian movie or Bollywood 1595 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:43.239 movie from a couple of years ago. 1596 01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:48.560 But that's r R R Oh yeah, yeah, that's universally good. Yes, 1597 01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:49.960 this is one more refresh yep. 1598 01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:53.800 Yes, So I like VRR is one if like you 1599 01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:55.399 can support it or if you do have it, you 1600 01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:56.159 should use it. 1601 01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:57.199 It's it's pretty cool. 1602 01:10:57.560 --> 01:10:59.399 But a lot of times on TVs, like you turn 1603 01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:01.960 on one option and it makes another option that it 1604 01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.520 doesn't work because it's like HDMI two point zero or whatever. 1605 01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:07.079 So it's like you can't have four K with Dolby 1606 01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:09.960 Vision and vr R on at the same time. It's like, well, 1607 01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:10.640 why the hell not. 1608 01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:12.479 But then it's like I think it was Doom or 1609 01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:14.119 something I was trying to play recently, and it's like, 1610 01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:17.520 you know, okay, ultra performance performance balance quality. I get that, 1611 01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:20.479 and then like above quality, there was like d L 1612 01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:22.560 A A or something, and it's like is that better 1613 01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:24.720 than quality because that's like I don't know what that 1614 01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:26.239 is now, And then yeah. 1615 01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:26.960 It's very confusing. 1616 01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:31.079 It is silly that all these years, everyone all those 1617 01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:33.399 menus just assume like everyone's a developer. 1618 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:34.560 Yeah. 1619 01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:37.800 Yeah, for the longest time, it's like, you know what 1620 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:40.399 s R s l R three v two is, right? 1621 01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:43.079 Oh no, just b one. I'm sorry that you're out 1622 01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:44.520 of date. It's crazy. 1623 01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:47.520 I agree it is now yeah, it's a real thing now, Yeah, 1624 01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:51.640 it's Yes, those graphics options have gotten kind of out 1625 01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:53.880 of hand. But uh, you know, frame generation. If you're 1626 01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:57.239 on a high refresh rate freight monitor, high refresh rate monitor, 1627 01:11:57.399 --> 01:11:58.039 you should use that. 1628 01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:00.279 I think it's it's a good thing, okay, but high 1629 01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:03.479 refresh rate it's sixty or not anything about anything about 1630 01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:04.279 sixty pretty much. 1631 01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:06.600 So yeah, probably one twenty and above would be really 1632 01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:08.399 good if you're getting those kinds of frames. Anyhow, if 1633 01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:10.600 you're getting like sixty to ninety, turn on frame generation 1634 01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:11.960 you can get one hundred and forty five. 1635 01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:13.479 Is there every. 1636 01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:16.359 Reason to not have like DLSS on because my understanding 1637 01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:17.880 is that it's just something that like, oh, it can 1638 01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:20.239 allow like lower end computers to run things at decent 1639 01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:22.439 frame rates. But if I have a higher end computer, 1640 01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:25.319 do I turn on dls as still or does that 1641 01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:26.479 degrade equality? 1642 01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:31.319 Well? No, if you're using DLSS in quality mode, you're 1643 01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:33.680 going to have a visual an image quality that is 1644 01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:39.000 basically indistinguishable from running a native four K or sometimes 1645 01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:43.840 it's even better because it's using data from a sixteen 1646 01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:45.840 K version of that game. That's the way they at 1647 01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:47.560 least did it at the beginning. It might be different now, 1648 01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:49.840 but they would just train the way the game should 1649 01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:52.199 look at sixteen K, and so it has all of 1650 01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:54.880 this like like metadata about what it needs to do 1651 01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:57.199 to get to that point. And it could sometimes take 1652 01:12:57.239 --> 01:13:00.600 stuff from like a ten eighty P image and reproduce 1653 01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:03.680 it in a way that's even better than native four K. Sometimes. 1654 01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:05.680 You know, my day, I bought star Flight for Sega 1655 01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:06.800 Genesis for eighty dollars. 1656 01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:10.159 I don't have to wait for an update or worry 1657 01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:10.640 about this. 1658 01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:16.880 Nintendo will be attending games Com twenty twenty five, that's 1659 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:20.119 you know. I guess maybe I'm asking this because are 1660 01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:21.520 you guys ready to go back to games Com? 1661 01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:25.039 I think the same time as the gathering, so we'll see, Okay, 1662 01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:26.520 Well we keep. 1663 01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:27.680 Our priorities straight there. 1664 01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:29.680 Yeah, I'm up for either. 1665 01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:32.239 Tend. I think we'll be at the Gathering of the 1666 01:13:32.319 --> 01:13:33.039 Jugglers as well. 1667 01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:34.159 I'm sure though, so. 1668 01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:38.560 I'll be fine. Nintendo wasn't a games come last year. 1669 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:40.520 They'll be here this year. Obviously they got to switch 1670 01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.399 to to sell, So I guess the other question would be, 1671 01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:45.319 do you think as we get later into the year 1672 01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:48.760 Nintendo does have any other like one more game left 1673 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:49.760 twenty five? 1674 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:51.720 Do you think it could just be Metroid right? 1675 01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:55.520 Well, anything unannounced anything, There will be at least one 1676 01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.479 exciting thing. I think that is coming out of the holiday. 1677 01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:01.560 I think I don't know if it's Mario time yet. 1678 01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:03.039 I think maybe next year is Mario time. 1679 01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:06.399 Never get that they're gonna have Pokemon z A Legends 1680 01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:06.880 or whatever. 1681 01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:11.479 Oh I mean in my brain it's not so it 1682 01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:12.039 doesn't count. 1683 01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.479 Yeah, it's very not anymore. 1684 01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:17.079 It's nineteen ninety eight. 1685 01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:19.479 No, it's arguably one of their biggest things. 1686 01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:20.880 Once heard of it. 1687 01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:24.560 He could choose a bigger mouse than Mickey Mouse. Sometimes, Ah, 1688 01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:25.880 they what hurt you? 1689 01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:27.520 If? Like, every month I tell you how many more 1690 01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:30.199 copies Pokemon Legends Z sells than Donkey Kong? 1691 01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:30.880 I believe it. 1692 01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:31.600 I just don't care. 1693 01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:34.680 Well in not lait a second. First, it's not real. 1694 01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:38.479 Now you don't care. What other mental gymnastics do you 1695 01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:41.119 perform to keep perfect? Dan World Going. 1696 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:43.880 The Riker DNA is strong in my brain. It all 1697 01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:44.520 works up here. 1698 01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:47.079 Yes, that being said, I would love to go back 1699 01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:48.000 to games Com. 1700 01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:50.439 I would just good. I would do games Com. If 1701 01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:51.960 you're listening, I would. 1702 01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:53.960 Go to games Com. I wouldn't want to do like 1703 01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.680 we did games Calm straight to London. I came home 1704 01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:58.640 for three days, then went to Seattle and at the 1705 01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:00.479 end of that I was feeling kind of I. 1706 01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:02.199 Did all that, but right before that, I was also 1707 01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:04.760 in Japan. No, right after that, I went to Japan. 1708 01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:07.960 Yeah, didn't you guys like watch wrestling in London or something? 1709 01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:09.159 Went to Wimbley. 1710 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:12.439 Yeah, way back from Games Gone. They're all fantastic trips 1711 01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:14.399 and I wouldn't change it, but it was. It was 1712 01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:15.359 a lot of traveling. 1713 01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:19.079 You wouldn't change anything about the Germany trip. Mike, huh, 1714 01:15:19.319 --> 01:15:20.600 even racist outburst. 1715 01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:23.760 Oh give me a break, racist outburst. 1716 01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:27.039 I was more talking about how a woman's form is 1717 01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:28.520 similar to a soda bottle. 1718 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:31.560 There were numerous things that led to him being banned. 1719 01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.479 It wasn't about her format all those but the colors 1720 01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:38.279 of her clothes are being misconstrued red that way. Mike 1721 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:42.640 read exactly. It was red. It was just a red dress. 1722 01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:46.520 It just reminded me of a cook a cord bottle. 1723 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:49.199 Look what Bailey on the dump truck. We'll hash this out. 1724 01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:49.720 What's the frog? 1725 01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:53.479 I'm sure red Red Dead Redemption two is reportedly coming 1726 01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:55.760 to switch to his commits to Nintendo. 1727 01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:57.159 There is right right there. 1728 01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:59.039 And looks that's a game that looks like a coke bottle. 1729 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:04.560 Take two committing to the to the Nintendo switch to 1730 01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:07.840 that sounds great. That obviously doesn't mean GTA six. It 1731 01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:10.079 means everything else right. GT six is not going to 1732 01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:11.359 run on no show. 1733 01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:13.840 Is there any world in which some rock Star social 1734 01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:15.960 club thing will let my PC save of Red Dead 1735 01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:16.800 two go to switch? 1736 01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:18.239 Because I do want to keep going with that at 1737 01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:18.640 some point. 1738 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:20.359 I think that sounds like something that does. 1739 01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:22.680 I would like that. Yeah, yeah, I've been meaning to 1740 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:25.319 go back to that once there's a little Yeah. 1741 01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:27.199 I think that that would probably make a lot of sense. 1742 01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:30.000 I'm just glad that I have Dan on team Red Dead. 1743 01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:31.279 Redemption two is good now. 1744 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:35.239 I mean I'm not suddenly, you know, waving the flags. 1745 01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:36.439 I think it's a good game. 1746 01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:38.880 I think he still has a lot of like like issues. 1747 01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:41.119 All of my frustration stand still. 1748 01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:43.319 I'm just like I've made peace with it in a 1749 01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.279 way that I wasn't at lunch, you know, And I 1750 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:46.640 do enjoy it, and I. 1751 01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:47.680 Enjoyed it at lunch. 1752 01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:48.560 It's a good game. 1753 01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:52.319 That's the important, well made game. It's it's very Yeah, yes, 1754 01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:57.199 we'll see I think really this is just indicative of 1755 01:16:57.239 --> 01:16:59.000 a lot of third parties being like we should at 1756 01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:01.000 least be testing the wall with the switch to to 1757 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:05.039 see how things do. Third party games will probably do 1758 01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:07.560 better on Switch too than they even did on Switch 1759 01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:09.119 one right, just at least out of the gate. 1760 01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:12.279 I would think so, because yeah, somebody them are just 1761 01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:14.800 gonna run really well with a Switch one. There are 1762 01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:16.800 a lot of ports that weren't great even sometimes then 1763 01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:20.399 they would still sell well. Like Mortal Kombat eleven right 1764 01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.439 did really well on the Switch even though the game 1765 01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:26.520 looked like ass on there and here. That shouldn't be 1766 01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:29.159 a problem. It's gonna be curious to see which of 1767 01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:32.439 these right away do well. You can see Cyberpunk, especially 1768 01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:36.479 Sierpunk's gonna probably do very well. I hope Hitman gets 1769 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:38.880 a little bit more juicy, but Split Fiction immediately does 1770 01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:43.039 very well also, So it's gonna be interesting just how 1771 01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:45.079 quickly those floodgates open. Like, I'm almost a little bit 1772 01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:47.359 surprised it's not more right away at launch, even though 1773 01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:49.479 it is a pretty good amount. Yep. 1774 01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:52.960 Yeah, I think a lot of developers are probably like, man, 1775 01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:55.560 had we been here for this launch, we probably would 1776 01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:57.079 get a lot of shine, And I think the ones 1777 01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.680 that are gonna be there are gonna do very well. 1778 01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:03.680 All right, So let's shift over to some spell God, 1779 01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:05.479 I'm not doing that on purpose. Let's shift over to 1780 01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:09.920 news from Shift Up Stellar Blade sequel quietly revealed by 1781 01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:13.159 developers Shift Up. Stellar Blade has sold over one million units, 1782 01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:16.119 and Shift Up may have already revealed plans for a sequel. 1783 01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:18.640 The developer's recent presentation hinted at Stellar. 1784 01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:20.279 Blade two, slated. 1785 01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:23.000 For release before twenty twenty seven, alongside a PC release 1786 01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:26.319 and platform expansion for the original game. So we're going 1787 01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:28.720 to do a lot of stuff with that. That Stellar 1788 01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:31.079 Blade game I played about three or four hours. I 1789 01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:34.279 thought it was pretty okay indeed, Yeah, yeah, quite a 1790 01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:37.439 bit of fun. So I'm once this PC version hits, 1791 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:39.159 I'm probably gonna really play it on there, and then 1792 01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:41.000 I'll be ready for a sequel. Sure, why not that 1793 01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:44.319 I want more character action games to just keep thriving 1794 01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:47.159 over there, while all the everyone else seems to be 1795 01:18:47.159 --> 01:18:49.279 moving in the direction of frum Soft. Like I'm I'm 1796 01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:51.199 very happy about that. I love frum Soft and from 1797 01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:54.680 Soft style games, but character action games should not be 1798 01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:57.239 deprecated because of that. So I'm glad Shift Up is 1799 01:18:57.319 --> 01:18:57.880 keeping it alive. 1800 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:02.479 It's a lot of work to cool in a Soul's game, 1801 01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:05.560 but in a character action game like this, you just look. 1802 01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:09.119 You just can't help it. Yeah, yeah, I'm still a 1803 01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:11.199 little weirded that by Stiller playing, I like, do like 1804 01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:13.680 it right, But there's it's not even even though it's 1805 01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:17.600 out all of you know that discourse that happened, which 1806 01:19:17.640 --> 01:19:20.479 was mostly stupid, I can't ignore it. There is still 1807 01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:21.920 something just when I look at this game, I look 1808 01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:23.319 at this character, it's still a little weird. 1809 01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:25.560 I have to admit, I look at this character, I 1810 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:27.520 look at this game, and I have no problems. 1811 01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:32.319 I'm definitely with you, Mike, where it's like, okay, like 1812 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:34.319 it's so on your face. But I mean, I'm so 1813 01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:36.399 used to that from games from my entire life that 1814 01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:38.359 I built out this thing where it's like I'm just 1815 01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:40.960 gonna put that over. That doesn't matter. Whatever they're being 1816 01:19:41.119 --> 01:19:43.399 like egregious about it. That's video games. 1817 01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:45.399 Now, It's fine. I like, I played plenty of sex, 1818 01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:47.680 and you know, I'm sorry for even bringing this discourse 1819 01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:50.960 up again. I guess there's something. If it's the weird 1820 01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:53.960 way the came doesn't act like this character is like 1821 01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:56.800 the most beautiful person in the world, that is the 1822 01:19:56.840 --> 01:19:58.319 weird part about it. I suppose. 1823 01:19:58.439 --> 01:19:58.880 I don't know. 1824 01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:02.119 Yeah, there's not like that Laura Cross level of like 1825 01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:06.039 mild self awareness and winking at the camera even I 1826 01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:06.520 don't know. 1827 01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:10.680 No, there's there's absolutely zero self awareness. You're right, that's that's. 1828 01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:12.640 This is them being like, this is what video game 1829 01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:15.319 characters should look like and not acknowledging that in any way. 1830 01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.000 Yeah, here's my pitch that they should call the sequel 1831 01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:22.199 Stellar Blades and have a stylized two as an s Okay, 1832 01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:23.760 I'm okay with that. 1833 01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:29.720 All right. So that was a game that was you know, 1834 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.199 exclusive to PS five for a little bit. Let's get 1835 01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:36.000 over to some other PlayStation and Sony News Bungee Polls, 1836 01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:40.479 Marathon gameplay after Art Plagiarism, Plagiarism Storm, and says it's 1837 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:44.720 reviewing all art. So things have kind of gone south 1838 01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:47.680 for Bungie in a pretty hard way since all this 1839 01:20:47.800 --> 01:20:52.199 Marathon stuff happened. First, the game was received coolly like 1840 01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:55.439 I mean luke wrul to me, like, yeah, just like 1841 01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:59.600 there was a cool reception, is what I'm trying to get. 1842 01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:04.039 Cool is better than luke cools better than lukewarm, right, I. 1843 01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:07.439 Would, because lukewarm means it's kind of cool. Cool. 1844 01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:09.840 No one likes lukewarm stuff though, like a cool thing, 1845 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:10.319 like a crank. 1846 01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:15.520 Yeah, lukewarm is always like man, yeah, okay, Well that's 1847 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:17.399 the noise I think people were making for marathon. 1848 01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:19.119 Room temp. 1849 01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:21.600 That works, That works, I mean, but wait, people like 1850 01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:22.880 rooms to be room temp. 1851 01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:25.800 People are nonplussed about the uh. 1852 01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:29.520 The negative of them. 1853 01:21:30.439 --> 01:21:38.920 Oops goblin laugh Now I'm freaking out, guys, there's the 1854 01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:50.319 Greek goblin here. Either way, people were not happy or listen, 1855 01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:52.359 they weren't disgusted by Marathon, but no one seemed that 1856 01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:56.479 excited about it. Then uh, there was this problem with 1857 01:21:56.600 --> 01:22:00.880 the art or someone an artist on Blue Sky was like, hey, 1858 01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:03.119 it looks like they're using art that I made several 1859 01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:05.560 years ago, and here are like several elements that I 1860 01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:08.680 put in there as signatures, including the comic loss from 1861 01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:11.800 control a delete us as evidence that this is my stuff, 1862 01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:15.319 and Bungie was like, yes, you're right, we have stolen 1863 01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:17.960 your art. We're apologies, we're taking it out and we're 1864 01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:20.720 going to do a full review of all of the 1865 01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:23.840 art in the game. And while while this is happening, 1866 01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:27.039 people are also hearing that, like, this is destroying morale 1867 01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:30.479 at a bunche a place where morale was already pretty low, 1868 01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:32.720 because now this is all people are talking about. No 1869 01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:35.399 one's really talking about the game itself. And when people 1870 01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:37.920 do talk about the game, they often say something like, 1871 01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:40.600 oh yeah, but I'm gonna play arc Raiders instead. That 1872 01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:43.199 looks like they're fun. And this is a game that 1873 01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:44.479 has to do well for Bungie. 1874 01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:45.399 It just has to. 1875 01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:46.560 That's where they're at. 1876 01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:47.439 So this is rough. 1877 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:49.800 It's so rough with these free to buy, im free 1878 01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:51.479 to play live service games. So this game is gonna 1879 01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:54.520 cost forty dollars. It's it's hard because people do just 1880 01:22:54.600 --> 01:22:56.640 kind of look for a reason to not have to 1881 01:22:56.720 --> 01:22:59.720 care because they can be big time investments, they can 1882 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:03.319 be big monetary investments, and there's already so many games 1883 01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:05.479 like this. You can just play Fortnite like you know 1884 01:23:05.479 --> 01:23:08.439 what Concord. It's like the moment people are like the 1885 01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:11.119 narrative of oh this is this looks like, you know, 1886 01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:14.239 a poor clone of Guardings to the Galaxy. Well that 1887 01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.600 took off and it became a joke and I was like, yeah, 1888 01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:18.600 people when people play that game, like, yeah, the game's 1889 01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.960 not that bad, but I don't know, the vibes are off, 1890 01:23:22.520 --> 01:23:26.439 and this feels like, you know, the test being received 1891 01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:29.680 kind of lukewarm. Whatever we said is one thing, but 1892 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:33.239 now like the stolen art thing, bad vibes, reports of 1893 01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:35.920 the culture and like just like again, everybody, they're feeling 1894 01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.279 kind of weird. It's just you hear Barrathon right now 1895 01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:41.800 and you're not thinking about excitement even like, you know, 1896 01:23:42.079 --> 01:23:43.880 I always thought that this game was probably gonna do 1897 01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:46.720 well because it's a bungeee and shooting in a bungee 1898 01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:49.640 game feels so good. Even that isn't really giving it 1899 01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:51.479 much juice. People are like, yeah, I guess, I guess 1900 01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:54.000 this shooting feels good, but you're not doing a ton 1901 01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:55.479 of it. It doesn't feel as good as maybe you 1902 01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:58.159 would hope for a Bungee game. It seems like we're 1903 01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:02.399 maybe maybe over acting, we kind of maybe are approaching 1904 01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:03.359 a disaster here. 1905 01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:06.119 Yeah, Like I I like the art style and I've 1906 01:24:06.199 --> 01:24:08.279 really liked, you know, the feel of Bungee games and 1907 01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:10.279 you know, from Halo to Destiny and everything. But like 1908 01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:13.600 when I see it's PvP, it's like, well, I'm just 1909 01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:16.479 not interested, you know, like I'll try it, but like 1910 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:18.079 I I am not interested. 1911 01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:20.319 It's even over played, you know. 1912 01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:22.319 It's even a weird PvP thing because this was the 1913 01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:24.279 first time I played an instraction shooter when I did it, 1914 01:24:24.840 --> 01:24:27.359 so I don't know. I guess I thought they would 1915 01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.920 be more fun. But I'm just running around weird picking 1916 01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:34.000 junk up, fighting a lot of kind of easy battles 1917 01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:37.399 against computer opponents, and there'd mayby be one team fight 1918 01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:40.760 and around you know, then that's going to go. However 1919 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:42.960 that's gonna go, and then it's over and I'm supposed 1920 01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:45.520 to do it again, and I just you know, did 1921 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:46.239 not get the loop. 1922 01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:47.840 Oh yeah, that's I'm trying to think of which ones 1923 01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:51.880 I've actually played, and like XO Primal was one, right, No, no, 1924 01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:53.880 it's not okay, then what. 1925 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:55.920 I don't think it's an extraction what extraction shooter? 1926 01:24:56.319 --> 01:24:56.720 Darkov? 1927 01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:59.159 Did you probably have not played an extraction shooter? Did 1928 01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:00.960 you play what was the call of Duty? One called? 1929 01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:02.039 Was that the DMZ mode? 1930 01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:02.600 Yes? 1931 01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:04.119 Yeah, I think I tried that one or twice. It's 1932 01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:04.960 like I don't enjoy this. 1933 01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:07.560 Yeah, that would be the one. You probably haven't played. 1934 01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:09.680 A Hunter? What's the what's that called. 1935 01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:11.640 Hunter the Reckoning? 1936 01:25:12.279 --> 01:25:15.479 Yeah? No, but I was legit getting that set up 1937 01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:19.239 on my fucking Parsec machine the other day so that 1938 01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:20.680 we could play Hunter the Reckoning. 1939 01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:24.159 What the hell? Showdown? Hunt Showdown? 1940 01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:26.479 Yeah, that's the one. So those are like the big 1941 01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:28.880 ones that in Tarkoff, so you probably not probably have 1942 01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:33.800 not played those. There was one other thing, uh, a 1943 01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:36.239 former artist. I think I think they worked as an artist, 1944 01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:38.479 at least they claimed to be on social media with 1945 01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:40.760 saying things like as a former Bunge employee who's worked 1946 01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:42.600 on Marathon. I feel for those still at the studio, 1947 01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:46.359 but working with engineering and Marathon leadership was extremely toxic 1948 01:25:46.399 --> 01:25:48.920 and humiliating. I won't speak about the rest, but Bungee 1949 01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:52.359 leadership needs to be gutted completely. It's like, you know, 1950 01:25:52.399 --> 01:25:55.359 can we corroborate exactly what this person is saying. Not necessarily, 1951 01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:58.319 but this is the conversation that is happening around this 1952 01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:02.000 game instead of hey, what at that marathon? So it's 1953 01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:03.720 just a huge uphill climb per a game that just 1954 01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:06.279 cannot afford to have an uphill climb. Everything has to 1955 01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:08.000 be going in its way for Bungeie to kind of 1956 01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:10.840 keep operating as it is, And this does not feel 1957 01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:11.199 like that. 1958 01:26:11.239 --> 01:26:14.439 Does happen going free to play at launch help it 1959 01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:14.760 at all? 1960 01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:16.479 It won't help, I don't think so. 1961 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:19.720 Maybe a little bit, but maybe, but like it's you know, 1962 01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:21.960 it just sounds like as an extraction shooter, that would 1963 01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:23.079 be a hard thing to pull off. 1964 01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:26.119 So in gosh, I forget where I saw this I 1965 01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:28.720 saw floating around there. Maybe this isn't true at all, Like, 1966 01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:31.479 but for Marathon to because consider a success has to 1967 01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:33.399 be one of the top five best selling games of 1968 01:26:33.399 --> 01:26:36.960 the year or something like that, and like, ooh, I 1969 01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:38.800 don't know about that, Like that. 1970 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:40.279 Feels like a tough thing to pull off. 1971 01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:43.880 Correct me, please, there's absolutely no single player You're constantly 1972 01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:45.479 dropping in a squad free right. 1973 01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:48.079 Right right and thing where it's like maybe when they 1974 01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:49.880 green lit this game, at the time, it made sense 1975 01:26:49.880 --> 01:26:52.439 because it seemed like an extraction shooter was just gonna 1976 01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:54.399 be like a Fortnite thing where the Battle risers are 1977 01:26:54.399 --> 01:26:56.199 taken off and there's gonna maybe be five of those 1978 01:26:56.239 --> 01:26:58.239 that make a lot of money. So let's be one 1979 01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:00.479 of the extraction shooters that makes a lot of money. 1980 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.000 And maybe that pool is even smaller than that Battle 1981 01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:05.359 Royal pool was. And you're also still coming at it 1982 01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:10.279 too late. Boy, what happens at this game doesn't do well. 1983 01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:12.319 It's not like they could just pivot and make a 1984 01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:14.600 Destiny three because that is going to be such a 1985 01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:16.000 hard thing to do. This is the. 1986 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:18.199 Pivot, Like, this is it this system pivot? 1987 01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:20.279 Yeah, I think this is that we're in the moment 1988 01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:23.359 of the pivot right because Bungee is also pulled away 1989 01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:25.399 from doing Destiny updates the way it was doing for 1990 01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:27.880 Destiny to it pivoted that away from that, and that 1991 01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:30.720 they're doing more frequent ones frequent ones, but they're smaller, 1992 01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:34.159 so overall there's less content. They're trying to like still 1993 01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:36.520 make it feel like it's alive, and that's something that 1994 01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:39.359 they're maybe they're pulling off, pulling that off. Maybe they're not, 1995 01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:41.920 but it's not like turning destiny to and some into 1996 01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:43.840 some big thing again and then it's like, Okay, well, 1997 01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:46.239 while we're doing that, let's get marathon ready and that'll 1998 01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:48.239 kind of pick up the torch and carry us forward. 1999 01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:53.000 The reality is, what I've heard is if these two 2000 01:27:53.079 --> 01:27:55.560 things do not do as well as they possibly can, 2001 01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:57.439 for bungee bungees in a lot of trouble and what 2002 01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:01.359 exactly that means. I mean, I think thanks Sony PlayStation Studios, 2003 01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:03.439 maybe kind of brings it more into the fold and 2004 01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:06.640 takes it over completely in some ways, which I don't know. 2005 01:28:06.760 --> 01:28:08.720 Maybe long term that could help. I have no idea. 2006 01:28:10.159 --> 01:28:13.359 I'm seeing now real quick grub. I didn't realize that 2007 01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:16.079 Arc Raiders was made by the same team or similar 2008 01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:18.640 team as the folks that made the finals, And now 2009 01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:24.680 I'm even more interested in it. Yeah, well, yeah, that's embark. 2010 01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:28.000 I can't yes, embark, but I can't remember the guy. 2011 01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:31.680 He was the former chief technology officer at EA. He 2012 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:34.359 came up through dice and was I think he's like 2013 01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:37.680 primarily one of the people primarily responsible for the Frostbite engine, 2014 01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:40.119 and he's the guy that made the choice that all 2015 01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:42.640 EA games have to use the Frostbite engines. They own 2016 01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:44.600 that engine. So it's very funny that he got to 2017 01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:46.000 leave and go work and make a game in the 2018 01:28:46.079 --> 01:28:51.840 unreal engine and I got stuck with his decision. But yes, 2019 01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:56.479 so that like there's a lot of like strong like technology, likenology, 2020 01:28:56.479 --> 01:28:59.159 technological background at that studio because it's a lot of 2021 01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:02.199 like former die Swedish devs that just know that technology 2022 01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:05.039 backward and forward so their games look cool and can 2023 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:08.079 play really good. I'm excited to check out arc Raders myself. 2024 01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:09.920 The finals had one of the best grappling hooks. 2025 01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:14.560 That's a good one. Yeah, all right. Sticking with PlayStation 2026 01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:17.079 for a couple more stories here. Neil Druckman is working 2027 01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:21.800 on a second unannounced game at Naughty Dog. Okay, buddy, yeah, 2028 01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:24.079 well exactly. Neil Truckman revealed he is working on a 2029 01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:27.399 second unannounced project on Naughty Dog in addition to Intergalactic, 2030 01:29:27.720 --> 01:29:30.760 confirming the studio is developing multiple games despite past struggles 2031 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:35.640 with managing multiple large scale projects simultaneously. Naughty Dog now 2032 01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:38.960 has several directors on Intergalactic, and Druckman is taking a 2033 01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:42.319 producer role on another game. Basically, he just said that 2034 01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:44.720 he's going to be mentoring and producing on this one. 2035 01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:47.479 He's kind of, you know the way Miamoto kind of 2036 01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:53.760 oversees Zelda still from like way far away, No miam Moto, 2037 01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:56.000 but he's definitely trying to take that role, and that 2038 01:29:56.039 --> 01:29:58.319 lines up with what I've you know, kind of expected 2039 01:29:58.319 --> 01:29:59.920 and kind of heard from him. The way he's talking 2040 01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:02.920 to me, he sounds like he does not have another 2041 01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:07.079 long term game that he is fully responsible for directing 2042 01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:07.680 in him. 2043 01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:09.960 Yeah, because he's like, you know, how quick you can 2044 01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:12.319 make a season of prestige television? 2045 01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:13.880 Yeah, exactly. 2046 01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:15.600 I think he's got a taste of that, and he's like, 2047 01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:19.600 this pays really well and it was way easier, and 2048 01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:22.119 like when I mess things up, there isn't like a 2049 01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:24.680 concerted effort of people trying to track me down. They 2050 01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:27.279 just go complain on message boards over there. So it's 2051 01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:29.000 got to look pretty appealing. 2052 01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:32.279 But they says probably last of Us part three, because 2053 01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:34.640 if he's not directing that, they definitely have to attach 2054 01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:36.279 his name to it, and they definitely have to get 2055 01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:38.640 kind of going on that by now, right. 2056 01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:40.880 I I think it's uncharted. 2057 01:30:42.600 --> 01:30:43.159 I would. 2058 01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:48.800 Or something new, Yeah, do you think me? 2059 01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:49.520 Jack? 2060 01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:54.520 And Daxter again, Jan, what do you mean? 2061 01:30:54.720 --> 01:30:55.119 I said? 2062 01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:55.520 Please? 2063 01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:59.399 Oh, well, this is the real world, you know. Nuts, 2064 01:30:59.439 --> 01:31:00.560 I think it's. 2065 01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:02.319 A charted because like that would be one where it's 2066 01:31:02.359 --> 01:31:05.880 like sure, I can like oversee some other people actually 2067 01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:08.640 making that game. Uh. There was also that time when 2068 01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:11.600 Uncharted was maybe gonna get taken over by another studio 2069 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:16.000 PlayStation and and then Naughty Dog stepped in by no, thanks, 2070 01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:18.520 we want to do that. So there is still some 2071 01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:22.279 desire to have Uncharted be overseen by Naughty Dog, and 2072 01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:23.920 this would make this would sounds like the way to 2073 01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:24.479 do it to me. 2074 01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:27.439 But I don't know. I guess. Have any of y'all 2075 01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:29.920 been watching the newest season of the Last of Us show? 2076 01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:33.159 No, I haven't watched any season neither of I can't 2077 01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:34.840 do it. I can't watch it. 2078 01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:39.439 Yeah, people love it, but I just I can't do it. 2079 01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:39.880 I get it. 2080 01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:43.800 Yeah, I I've just noticed a very vast difference in 2081 01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:48.239 opinions versus games media people and then just like general 2082 01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:49.840 media people. 2083 01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:53.760 Covering reacting because I'm curious people and. 2084 01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:58.319 Like you know that just normally only cover game not games, movies, 2085 01:31:58.399 --> 01:32:01.560 TV shows and stuff. They're all very positive on it. 2086 01:32:01.159 --> 01:32:04.439 They like it a lot, while a lot of people 2087 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:07.079 in games media are like kind of very down on it. 2088 01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:09.359 Right, It's what it's probably like the people who have 2089 01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:12.079 like played those games versus that haven't. You think that's 2090 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:12.560 what that is? 2091 01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:14.680 Well, you going to assume that's what it might be. 2092 01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:18.279 Man, I know some people doing some fucked up timeline 2093 01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:20.760 with this stuff. Man, They're they're like, well, I played 2094 01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:22.920 the first one, I watched the second season, then I'm 2095 01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:24.520 going to go back and play the second game. And 2096 01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:28.319 I'm like, hey, whatever you do, you little I'm not 2097 01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:33.159 going to tell you anything. But but so Jane, you're saying, 2098 01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:37.680 you notice that like games media people are less hot 2099 01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:39.479 on it, is what you're saying, more critical? 2100 01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:41.840 Yeah, more more critical and yeah yeah picking it? 2101 01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:44.079 Are they like? 2102 01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:46.880 Is it is it a criticism that like. 2103 01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:47.720 I think. 2104 01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:52.880 Now you go it is the criticism more like, oh, 2105 01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:57.520 it is from the scale of like a prestige television show, 2106 01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:00.479 or is it a failure to adapt to their liking? 2107 01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:03.600 Like what is exactly the criticism coming from. 2108 01:33:03.640 --> 01:33:05.920 I think it's more so the latter in that it's 2109 01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:11.319 like a failure to adapt the existing source material. And 2110 01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:15.600 I mean, like Gang, you know, we it's completely different 2111 01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:18.560 timelines where you can only cover so much in a 2112 01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:22.239 seven and eight season of a show versus like a 2113 01:33:22.279 --> 01:33:26.119 thirty forty hour game. So I don't know if it's 2114 01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:29.079 a game of trying to please too many masters or 2115 01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:35.199 perhaps games media people may not like TV. 2116 01:33:36.359 --> 01:33:40.279 Yeah, I definitely like, yeah, there's some nitpicking that probably 2117 01:33:40.279 --> 01:33:42.600 that is probably just happening because the people have an 2118 01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:44.840 idea of the way it should go. It's like what 2119 01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:46.680 happened like Lord of the Rings? Right, there are some 2120 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:49.560 people who are like, no, this isn't my Lord of 2121 01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:49.840 the Ring. 2122 01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:50.960 Where's Tom Bombadel? 2123 01:33:51.720 --> 01:33:54.439 Yes, everyone just watched the rehearsal. Just watch that. 2124 01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:58.279 Yeah for sure. But I've not met a Normie who 2125 01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:01.800 has seen the Last the US on HBO and been 2126 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:03.359 like like. 2127 01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:04.560 Yeah, I just love it. 2128 01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:07.039 Universal acclaim from the normies, you. 2129 01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:09.359 Know, but the Normans like, we're still halfway through season two, right, 2130 01:34:09.479 --> 01:34:10.399 season two over. 2131 01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:15.800 One episode left, Yeah, that happens right away. 2132 01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:18.000 What do you mean the thing thing like from two 2133 01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:18.439 the game? 2134 01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:20.359 Yeah, yes, we know what the thing is. 2135 01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:22.279 The thing Okay, I know they got there in the show. 2136 01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:24.520 Yeah, it happened pretty early in the game. 2137 01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:27.399 Dan, remember, oh, they're in game two. 2138 01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:31.199 Now people people could I mean to see people pop 2139 01:34:31.279 --> 01:34:36.000 from that from only absorbing the narrative through the TV 2140 01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:38.359 show has been very enjoyable. 2141 01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:41.119 I'm not saying that the TV the normies that are 2142 01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:46.159 watching the TV show are any less toxic thing beneath you. 2143 01:34:46.479 --> 01:34:48.239 Beneath no, no, no, no, no, they're not even people. 2144 01:34:48.279 --> 01:34:51.000 What I'm saying is when the Last of Us two 2145 01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:55.399 came out and then the thing happened, and then the 2146 01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:58.640 internet was digesting the character of Abby from the Last 2147 01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:01.439 of Us Part two, there was nothing but vitual and 2148 01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:05.720 venom for what felt like years, even though it was 2149 01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:08.920 like a couple months of discourse. Here the thing happens 2150 01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:09.920 and everyone's. 2151 01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:11.920 Like, man, I really like Caitlin Deaver. She's great. 2152 01:35:12.439 --> 01:35:14.319 Oh so there's not the backlash against it. 2153 01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:17.800 Yeah, the game is very mad about that is, but 2154 01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:20.279 like it's more so people are like, oh, I'm sad 2155 01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:21.800 that actors may not come back. 2156 01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:23.520 Oh sure, yeah, a reasonable. 2157 01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:25.800 You don't have to play as the woman, like when 2158 01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:29.199 it like that's that's the difference there in the video game, 2159 01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:29.600 they're like. 2160 01:35:29.600 --> 01:35:30.800 Oh, I have to play as a girl. 2161 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:34.000 Now, I also had to do that in the first game, 2162 01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:34.640 but yeah. 2163 01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:38.600 Yeah, without looking what year was uncharged for? 2164 01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:42.399 Go oh wait, twenty sixteen. 2165 01:35:42.439 --> 01:35:44.399 I know because it was the year over Watch came out. 2166 01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:49.479 What sixteen? 2167 01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:51.239 Then the year Overwatch came out? And I was very 2168 01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:53.359 conflicted because I like both those games a lot, and 2169 01:35:53.479 --> 01:35:56.119 I had to pick a game of the year Beauty. 2170 01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:56.720 For this website. 2171 01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:01.399 I can't believe it's almost ten years. That is why insane. 2172 01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:04.399 Because that game still looks oh I reviewed it. 2173 01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:07.159 I give it five almost nine years to the day. 2174 01:36:07.239 --> 01:36:09.960 Almost nine years to the day. That is Banana. 2175 01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:12.399 I always say it's underrated. Somehow, I think I'll try 2176 01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:13.680 to agree it's really good. 2177 01:36:14.279 --> 01:36:16.560 I maintained twenty sixteen is the year that video game 2178 01:36:16.600 --> 01:36:19.119 graphics ended. Like that is the year. Yeah, It's the 2179 01:36:19.159 --> 01:36:21.199 year where it's like, it doesn't need to be any 2180 01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:23.159 better than this, and all the developers are like, yeah, 2181 01:36:23.359 --> 01:36:25.039 we agreed, because if it gets better than this, it's 2182 01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:27.039 just going to be more expensive and that's it. That's 2183 01:36:27.039 --> 01:36:27.920 the only difference. 2184 01:36:27.960 --> 01:36:30.199 Was this the one that Jeff Keeley took Kanye West 2185 01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:30.520 to play? 2186 01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:33.840 I think it was, I don't. I don't remember that 2187 01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:37.000 all is that where he blamed Georgia Bush for killing 2188 01:36:37.039 --> 01:36:38.399 black people, No, that's Hurricane. 2189 01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:40.680 So this is the E three where everyone found out 2190 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:43.560 Khiey was taking Kanye around and took him into the 2191 01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:46.760 Sony thing. And so once that got tweeted out outside 2192 01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:48.920 because it was right across from our war room, and 2193 01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:52.920 every fucking games media person on the planet crowded around 2194 01:36:53.039 --> 01:36:56.640 outside the Sony room to see Kanye West and Jeff Keeley. 2195 01:36:57.119 --> 01:36:59.560 Twenty sixteen might have been the only year that Kanye 2196 01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:00.600 West should have ended. 2197 01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:05.039 Yeah, probably, and he did in a lot of ways. 2198 01:37:05.479 --> 01:37:08.359 All right, Jade Raymond has left Haven Studios, the PlayStation 2199 01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:10.720 know in studio that she founded. They were making fair 2200 01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:13.520 games that once had a dollar sign at the end 2201 01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:15.560 of its word. Now they've changed that to just an. 2202 01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:17.600 S smart because they're cowards. 2203 01:37:18.399 --> 01:37:22.439 Don't believe what they're doing over there. So we don't 2204 01:37:22.479 --> 01:37:26.000 really know exactly what happened here, but there is a 2205 01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:29.199 bit of a timeline that has caused some speculation. Uh, 2206 01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:33.760 this game had some like external tests done in recent weeks, 2207 01:37:34.199 --> 01:37:36.640 and then she left the studio a few weeks later. Okay, 2208 01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:39.640 so people are trying to put two and two together there. 2209 01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:41.920 It's like, maybe Sony's not happy with this game that 2210 01:37:42.039 --> 01:37:47.079 you know it bought the studio for and maybe she's 2211 01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:49.079 leaving because she's like, Okay, well you do want different 2212 01:37:49.159 --> 01:37:52.039 leadership here you go. Jade Raymond is you know she 2213 01:37:52.079 --> 01:37:54.319 worked at Stadia, never shipped a game there. She has 2214 01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:57.960 not shipped a game since, like Assassin's Creed Brotherhood or 2215 01:37:58.000 --> 01:37:58.479 something like that. 2216 01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:02.119 She she came to Game Informer back then she was 2217 01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:03.960 with splinter Cell Conviction. So I don't know if she 2218 01:38:04.039 --> 01:38:06.840 was actually just kind of representing. 2219 01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:10.520 In some ways. Yeah, totally so, Yeah, this is just weird. 2220 01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:12.600 But like fair Games, what do we think the fate 2221 01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:13.039 of that is? 2222 01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:17.680 Boy, we're not sure about Marathon. Look, and these games 2223 01:38:17.680 --> 01:38:21.039 can somehow be a big surprise hit if they come 2224 01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:23.880 out and people really fall in love with them. There 2225 01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:27.479 they are actually good games all that stuff. Fair game 2226 01:38:27.520 --> 01:38:29.600 seems to have a lot going against it. 2227 01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:34.159 Yeah, I guess do you guys have? Like when I 2228 01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:36.640 say fair Games, does anything come to mind you? Like, 2229 01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:38.439 see any screenshots or game play? 2230 01:38:38.600 --> 01:38:41.600 It reminds me for some reason, I keep thinking of 2231 01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:44.880 Radical Heights every time. That's what. 2232 01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:47.199 It doesn't look like Radical heights, but it is what 2233 01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:48.520 I think when I hear fair Games. 2234 01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:50.520 It's the dollar sign. It's the dollar side, I think. 2235 01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:53.399 Yeah, Little law Breakers was okay, I'm sorry. 2236 01:38:54.079 --> 01:38:56.840 Right, Lawbreakers? 2237 01:38:56.840 --> 01:39:00.439 Wow, you should study Lawbreakers and plait on. 2238 01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:04.000 Why did Sony think he was a good idea to 2239 01:39:04.039 --> 01:39:06.319 make like three or four of the same game. 2240 01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:08.840 Well that was their ow strategy now, because you know, 2241 01:39:08.920 --> 01:39:11.319 for a while, the strategy was a Chartered two is 2242 01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:12.920 a big hit, Let's just kind of make all of 2243 01:39:12.960 --> 01:39:15.560 our games like that. And that works for a while, 2244 01:39:16.119 --> 01:39:18.640 but those games keep getting more and more expensive to make, 2245 01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:21.680 and the returns aren't that great and all the real 2246 01:39:21.720 --> 01:39:26.279 money was being made by Fortnite. So the strategy was, now, 2247 01:39:26.399 --> 01:39:28.920 let's just make a lot of life service games and 2248 01:39:28.960 --> 01:39:30.640 then some of those are gonna hit and that's going 2249 01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:33.399 to pay for everything else. And it seems I got 2250 01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:36.199 bad idea. But at the start Health Divers two came out, 2251 01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:38.439 it was a pretty big hit. It's like, okay, here 2252 01:39:38.520 --> 01:39:41.760 we go. And then Concord was such a flop that 2253 01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:44.680 it like undid the good will of Health Divers two 2254 01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:48.039 and then some and you know, and then the stuff's 2255 01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:52.720 getting canceled, like the last of US factions. So you know, 2256 01:39:53.359 --> 01:39:56.359 desperate for money is why they're doing it. And it 2257 01:39:56.479 --> 01:39:58.800 was just kind of a shotgun blast. Let's see which 2258 01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:02.399 of these hit. But the bullets seem like duds in 2259 01:40:02.439 --> 01:40:03.960 the chamber right now. 2260 01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:09.119 Isn't it just insane? And I feel like everyone sort 2261 01:40:09.159 --> 01:40:11.359 of knows this but maybe doesn't say it out loud, 2262 01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:17.000 where like these three to seven ten year roadmap decisions 2263 01:40:17.039 --> 01:40:20.119 get made at a time where like you can't make 2264 01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:22.680 that decision because you don't know what is going to 2265 01:40:22.720 --> 01:40:26.000 happen next month, let alone the next decade. 2266 01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:29.039 So like I would normally agree, but I disagree in 2267 01:40:29.079 --> 01:40:31.920 the case of the next news story, which I'm fine 2268 01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:32.520 waiting for. 2269 01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:36.720 Well, I think, like an individual developers case, it's not 2270 01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:40.239 such a problem. Like so when hideo Kojimas says his 2271 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:44.439 next espionage game isn't is five to six years away, 2272 01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:46.840 It's like, yeah, yeah, that probably should make another one 2273 01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:49.479 of those. And this is his Like I'm very much 2274 01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:50.960 going back in metal game and. 2275 01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:52.359 That's not the business I'm describing. 2276 01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:55.640 I'm just sure about Jim Jim Ryan in charge of 2277 01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:58.560 PlayStation exactly. Look, look, going to all of his heads 2278 01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:00.880 of departments at SAE, let's come up with a plan 2279 01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:03.359 for what the future PlayStation is going to be. So 2280 01:41:03.359 --> 01:41:05.840 we can grow it beyond where we are. Right, You're like, okay, well, 2281 01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:08.279 let's keep everything that we have the way it is. 2282 01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:11.239 The new strategy is, well, this trend of live service 2283 01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:14.039 games looks like it's really good. Let's throw everything into that. 2284 01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:16.279 And then by the time they execute on it, here 2285 01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:19.840 we are five to seven years later, and it looks absurd, 2286 01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:22.840 it looks completely and it's like, that's gaming's biggest problem 2287 01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:25.199 right now is well, there's a lot of big problems, 2288 01:41:25.199 --> 01:41:27.479 but one of its biggest problems right now is it's 2289 01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:30.600 really hard to plan for the future because we are 2290 01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:33.159 a fickle audience. It does tend to spend a lot 2291 01:41:33.159 --> 01:41:36.000 of money, but there's no guarantee that you're gonna be 2292 01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:38.159 able to capture that even if you put all of 2293 01:41:38.199 --> 01:41:40.119 your best efforts into it and make a good game, 2294 01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:40.800 like say a. 2295 01:41:40.760 --> 01:41:44.239 Concord no no, you please please. 2296 01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:46.800 And meanwhile, like the games that actually are hits is 2297 01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:51.319 the French inspired by j RPG's turn based game with 2298 01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:52.479 single player. 2299 01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:57.119 Right, but which one was in sept that I'm sure 2300 01:41:57.239 --> 01:41:59.159 was like, oh we got a gamble here. There's a 2301 01:41:59.239 --> 01:41:59.960 risk here, you know. 2302 01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:02.439 Yeah, they're like those those people that were sick of 2303 01:42:02.479 --> 01:42:04.640 doing stuff like we're describing it, you'd be soft. 2304 01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:07.159 It's impossible. It takes too long to make a game. 2305 01:42:07.319 --> 01:42:07.520 You know. 2306 01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:10.119 People will be like, well, why doesn't other you know, 2307 01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:13.399 like movies and TV have the same issue because you 2308 01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:15.880 can do that so much quicker, And there's a there's 2309 01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:18.479 a differentult the aspect of games, right where it's like. 2310 01:42:18.720 --> 01:42:21.640 It's it's it's software plus art, right, Like you have 2311 01:42:21.680 --> 01:42:23.479 to have those things and that makes it a little 2312 01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:25.880 bit more challenging. Then let's just tell a good story 2313 01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:27.560 and if we tell a good story, we'll be all right. 2314 01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:29.239 Like you tell a good story in games, you have 2315 01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:30.880 to do a lot of other things right as well. 2316 01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:33.439 I was going to ask, has there been any consideration, 2317 01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:36.520 uh on if any of these games are fun to play? 2318 01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:41.760 Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know. I think that 2319 01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:44.680 they are putting there's a lot of things they're trying 2320 01:42:44.680 --> 01:42:46.399 to consider. I'm sure that's one thing that a lot 2321 01:42:46.399 --> 01:42:47.800 of people working on those games. 2322 01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:50.520 Do care deeply about ours. Yeah, but you. 2323 01:42:50.479 --> 01:42:53.600 Know, there may be is an equal emphasis put on, hey, 2324 01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:56.279 what's the business model? And maybe that's a distraction. Maybe 2325 01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:56.760 that's a problem. 2326 01:42:56.840 --> 01:42:58.720 I kind of wanted to take all of you and 2327 01:42:59.239 --> 01:43:02.880 police lineup style play, the trailers without any logos or 2328 01:43:03.079 --> 01:43:11.840 Concord Air games, what was that Uvisoft. 2329 01:43:09.199 --> 01:43:09.880 Or the other one? 2330 01:43:11.880 --> 01:43:13.199 Watchdogs too, and. 2331 01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:18.600 Skin trailers, but like five second clips from these things 2332 01:43:18.600 --> 01:43:20.600 where it's like we should be able to know if 2333 01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:21.199 this was like you. 2334 01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:23.000 Would be a good thing. 2335 01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:25.840 Concord would be because it's all like crazy aliens and stuff. 2336 01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:27.720 But if you showed just like a clip of gameplay, 2337 01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:28.399 I might not know. 2338 01:43:29.079 --> 01:43:31.359 I might sneak in some Zutopia in there, guys. 2339 01:43:31.439 --> 01:43:36.399 Okay, just for is it the newest colony scene? What 2340 01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:38.159 from Utopia the Net? 2341 01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:41.079 Yeah, there's a newist colony in Utopia. The animals don't 2342 01:43:41.079 --> 01:43:42.359 wear clothes in that one. 2343 01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:47.199 Either way. 2344 01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:49.640 Physics coming out in five to six years according according 2345 01:43:49.680 --> 01:43:52.640 to Hideo coaching. But he's done pretty good job at 2346 01:43:52.640 --> 01:43:56.600 like sticking to around that time frame for his games now. 2347 01:43:56.760 --> 01:43:58.640 I mean, you know what, we don't have a large 2348 01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:03.000 sample side between dest Ranting and Destranding two, but five 2349 01:44:03.039 --> 01:44:05.800 to six years seems to be something he can stay. 2350 01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:07.640 I mean, the middle years tended to be about three 2351 01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:09.720 years of party is like ninety eight oh one, oh 2352 01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:13.439 four and eight and then a bigger gap for five, 2353 01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:16.399 but yeah, des Stranding is is a bit more spaced out. 2354 01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:20.479 How much of a real game is his Xbox weird 2355 01:44:21.279 --> 01:44:21.880 no idea? 2356 01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:23.680 Yeah, I don't know. There was a leaked thing a 2357 01:44:23.720 --> 01:44:25.000 while ago of just like. 2358 01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:26.880 And it looked like you were just selecting options. 2359 01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:29.840 No, there was a remember that leak like iPad thing 2360 01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:31.439 where there's like in the reflection you could see like 2361 01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:33.800 some dude in his boxers like watching this and it 2362 01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:36.439 was like Margaret Qualley walking around with a flashlight and 2363 01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:37.840 it was like clearly like a survival war. 2364 01:44:38.439 --> 01:44:38.640 Yeah. 2365 01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:40.680 Oh okay, okay, yes, yes. 2366 01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:42.399 That leaked and that was out there for a little 2367 01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:44.399 bit and it looked like a real like survival horror 2368 01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:44.800 type thing. 2369 01:44:44.920 --> 01:44:47.720 Okay, yeah, well maybe it's a real game. He's making 2370 01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:49.439 that as well. That that's got to come out between 2371 01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:51.039 now and Physian though, So. 2372 01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:52.800 I want him to keep making games. 2373 01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:55.239 I like. I like his games. That's yeah, like you. 2374 01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:57.439 As part of this, he talked about like, hey, would 2375 01:44:57.439 --> 01:44:59.279 you ever do a movie? He's like, yeah, maybe someday 2376 01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:01.119 I would direct a move movie. It's like, clearly he's 2377 01:45:01.119 --> 01:45:02.159 still just focused on. 2378 01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:04.199 A movie that he says would be like an homage 2379 01:45:04.239 --> 01:45:08.920 to cinema would be. Mike really liked that. 2380 01:45:10.279 --> 01:45:12.800 Where he was like on the Columbia set and like 2381 01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:14.880 he's like, oh, I'm gonna bring in cinematic elements to 2382 01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:15.279 my game. 2383 01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:19.720 Really. Yeah, he's talking about his note his notebook full 2384 01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:21.399 of ideas that he's going to give to a studio 2385 01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:23.840 USB siges so that they could do nothing but make 2386 01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:26.520 his ideas because no one else has ideas. He has 2387 01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:27.880 the best the. 2388 01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:31.760 USB stick with game ideas that he's gonna give to 2389 01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:33.720 a studio after he dies because he doesn't want coaching 2390 01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:38.720 but productions to fall into disrepair without his big brain. Again, Mike, 2391 01:45:38.800 --> 01:45:42.840 like that, Mike, did you not see the next the 2392 01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:44.760 last story there was one happened between that will go 2393 01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:45.640 back around. 2394 01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:48.640 Made he sucks a little bits. These games are good. 2395 01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:51.159 He sucks in a way that I love. 2396 01:45:52.000 --> 01:45:55.399 Yeah, I know I want to get on board with this, Mike. 2397 01:45:55.399 --> 01:45:58.199 I think it's about time that you and I colluded 2398 01:45:58.239 --> 01:46:01.399 on something. Yeah, really like the always Sonny bunch And 2399 01:46:01.439 --> 01:46:04.000 now we have to like go against the other people here. 2400 01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:06.000 But it's a five vote system now, so Jam's gonna 2401 01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:07.880 come down to you saying whether or not he sucks a. 2402 01:46:07.880 --> 01:46:09.119 Little bit, just a little bit. 2403 01:46:09.239 --> 01:46:14.319 We cannot vote on opinions. Number one, We're not canceling him. 2404 01:46:14.399 --> 01:46:15.560 I'm just canceling him. 2405 01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:18.640 But I'm Mike to the way that I want people 2406 01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:20.199 to suck again. 2407 01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:23.039 I understand j I can tell it's a coward's way 2408 01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:26.880 out number one. Number two, Like, yeah, Mike, I'm with you. 2409 01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:29.920 There is something inherently kind of annoying about him. 2410 01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:31.800 It's a good annoying. It's it was cute for a 2411 01:46:31.880 --> 01:46:34.159 long time, and it's sometimes it wasn't cute, Like, but 2412 01:46:34.239 --> 01:46:36.640 the whole quiet has to be naked because she's a 2413 01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:39.000 plant thing right now. 2414 01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:40.960 You lost me. I don't even know what the fucks. 2415 01:46:42.279 --> 01:46:44.159 You're ashamed of your words indeeds exactly. 2416 01:46:44.399 --> 01:46:46.720 So it's just sometimes sometimes he kind of sucks, and 2417 01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:47.399 I just think. 2418 01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:49.199 You two games would be worse without. 2419 01:46:51.760 --> 01:46:53.760 He could keep making games that they're probably gonna be good, 2420 01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:56.119 but we don't. He doesn't have to come out and 2421 01:46:56.399 --> 01:46:58.239 like step and Ship and showed our face and we 2422 01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:01.880 all have to be like this is great. It couldn't. 2423 01:47:02.399 --> 01:47:03.279 It would be obnoxious. 2424 01:47:03.279 --> 01:47:07.159 But I wanted I wanted to hear more of Backlar. 2425 01:47:07.479 --> 01:47:10.800 Yeah, because the irony of of Mike. You know saying 2426 01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:20.000 we shouldn't worship false idols. Yeah, he prays to the mouse, 2427 01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:24.680 does he not? Which is which is an inherently contradictory 2428 01:47:24.720 --> 01:47:27.479 sort of philosophy that you maintain. So you'll have to 2429 01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:31.479 just deal with that on your own time. Yeah, I'm 2430 01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:34.199 with you, Like, look, could you with I agree with 2431 01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:36.239 what you said, Grub. Without him, games will be a 2432 01:47:36.399 --> 01:47:39.680 much worse place, a much less weird place. The thing 2433 01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:41.399 I like about him the most is that everything is 2434 01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:44.399 just so weird and the fact that the weirdness has 2435 01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:49.319 as permeated mainstream gaming in such a way, like I 2436 01:47:49.359 --> 01:47:53.600 think a lot of that uh is to be celebrated. 2437 01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:59.159 At the same time, this whole, like I am, video 2438 01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:01.840 games is very annoying. 2439 01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:03.720 And I don't like Okay, all right, all right, here's 2440 01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:05.640 here's a reach here, and this is where I stand 2441 01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:09.640 on the on the subject of Kojima. I think Kojima 2442 01:48:10.279 --> 01:48:12.319 is the Tom Cruise. 2443 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:13.039 Of video games. 2444 01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:16.000 I get, yes, I get go on, I want you 2445 01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:19.760 to where he is annoying and like there are things 2446 01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:22.600 of like Okay, yeah, we get it. You stand for cinema, 2447 01:48:22.640 --> 01:48:25.960 you stand for this is movies. Yes, yes, that's true. 2448 01:48:26.199 --> 01:48:28.880 I would argue Tom Cruise is more movies than Kajima 2449 01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:29.399 is more video. 2450 01:48:29.439 --> 01:48:31.680 We're getting. We're getting the other thing recently where he 2451 01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:36.239 like he like was talking about how great the early reviews, 2452 01:48:36.279 --> 01:48:39.119 like the internal reviews for Destranting two are. It was 2453 01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:41.800 like bemoaning it, like, I feel like I maybe failed 2454 01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:44.119 as a creator because too many people like this. And 2455 01:48:44.239 --> 01:48:47.079 I'm gonna go in on a world tour promoting the 2456 01:48:47.079 --> 01:48:49.239 game so everyone can tell me how great I am. 2457 01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:52.920 Mike, Mike, don't you see this is the best thing 2458 01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:54.199 you have to offer. 2459 01:48:55.720 --> 01:48:55.880 This. 2460 01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:57.239 I'm eating this up. 2461 01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:02.159 I'm subscribing. I'm gonna gone slash joint. This is amazing 2462 01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:03.279 for you. 2463 01:49:03.399 --> 01:49:05.640 I was so excited when I got to tell him, 2464 01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:08.520 Mike the sentence he said about his movie was going 2465 01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:10.359 to be an homage to cinema because I knew it 2466 01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:14.079 was just like, yeah, that's because it's for him. 2467 01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:17.560 No one should gaze their navel in a way I. 2468 01:49:17.479 --> 01:49:20.680 Feel like would say that, yeah. 2469 01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:24.640 There's Tarantino syndrome all over my man. For sure, it. 2470 01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:26.439 Would be like a parody of Tarantino. 2471 01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:27.399 Yes, what. 2472 01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:31.279 More than I like Tarantino and I like Tarantino, I. 2473 01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:34.000 Think the Tarantino. Comparison is great because Tarantino makes a 2474 01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:36.520 lot of very good stuff, and I also think he 2475 01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:37.479 kind of sucks. 2476 01:49:37.239 --> 01:49:41.680 A lot, seems way more unsufferable than Kama. Like if 2477 01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:44.279 I was in a room with Tarantino, I'd probably be 2478 01:49:44.279 --> 01:49:47.119 so annoyed so quickly, uh with it's. 2479 01:49:47.079 --> 01:49:49.159 Like, hey, hell, yeah, that's Kajima. 2480 01:49:49.479 --> 01:49:52.840 Is this blasphemous to be like, you know what, it's 2481 01:49:52.840 --> 01:49:58.399 such a stupid analogy. Okay, Anyway, this is to say that, 2482 01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:00.960 like it was in the room with them, I don't 2483 01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:04.560 understand everything Kojima does, but I'll let him cook in 2484 01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:07.600 the same way that I don't understand everything David Lynch did, 2485 01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:08.600 and I'll let him cook. 2486 01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:11.960 Yeah, but that's the service to David Lynch. I think 2487 01:50:12.039 --> 01:50:14.000 David Lynch fucking more. 2488 01:50:13.800 --> 01:50:19.319 Hardima would love that you just compared with David. 2489 01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:22.279 For sure, that's definitely what he's going for. 2490 01:50:23.840 --> 01:50:27.600 I think, like for me, you know, four hour cutscenes 2491 01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:29.800 and all, like the navel gazing is just too much. 2492 01:50:29.840 --> 01:50:32.159 It's too much to bear. I just can't do it. 2493 01:50:32.960 --> 01:50:36.039 I I I don't want to travel that far inside 2494 01:50:36.079 --> 01:50:45.359 of anyone's asshole, and I want to you know, rub 2495 01:50:45.439 --> 01:50:46.319 up on the surface. 2496 01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:49.600 You know, who else is getting up there other than 2497 01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:51.960 like Kojima Druckman maybe, but like. 2498 01:50:54.560 --> 01:50:55.920 Very yeah, it surface though. 2499 01:50:55.840 --> 01:50:57.680 I mean I think we crave, we do kind of 2500 01:50:57.760 --> 01:51:01.760 crave these idols for lack of a better word, for sure, right, 2501 01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:03.520 you know, we have me a motto and that's one 2502 01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:05.560 of for sure, and like we have people who are 2503 01:51:05.640 --> 01:51:09.199 desperate to have that themselves, kind of like a Randy Pittsford, right, 2504 01:51:09.279 --> 01:51:11.079 and it's just it's not gonna happen. 2505 01:51:11.319 --> 01:51:12.800 Who also has usb sticks? 2506 01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:20.920 Nice, good job, give me, give me, give me a 2507 01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:22.239 Sam Lake, you know. 2508 01:51:22.680 --> 01:51:26.159 Yeah, yeah, talk about a nice fucking guy. 2509 01:51:26.399 --> 01:51:29.039 That's the ideal, right, this guy that clearly does have 2510 01:51:29.119 --> 01:51:32.000 the chops, and then it's also just nice and fun 2511 01:51:32.159 --> 01:51:34.600 and has a sense of humor about himself, clearly always 2512 01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:37.039 taking those pictures with him and the coffee and he's like, yes, 2513 01:51:37.079 --> 01:51:39.279 I really like twin Peaks. I'm not gonna hide it 2514 01:51:39.479 --> 01:51:41.239 here it is. I was trying to make stuff like that. 2515 01:51:41.279 --> 01:51:43.119 It's like, yeah, this this is a down to earth guy. 2516 01:51:43.199 --> 01:51:45.680 I love that Sam Lake just shows up everywhere. 2517 01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:48.520 Yeah the best, He's the best, dude. 2518 01:51:50.359 --> 01:51:52.479 Oh spin from Larry and also a good call out cool. 2519 01:51:52.760 --> 01:51:54.760 Yeah, I think that's only gonna become more and more 2520 01:51:54.760 --> 01:51:56.720 of a name, Like, right, I bet that they're going 2521 01:51:56.800 --> 01:51:58.840 to really cook with whatever that follow up to Borderskate 2522 01:51:58.840 --> 01:51:59.239 three is. 2523 01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:02.159 And then Jack Stinch says Tommy tall Rico, of course. 2524 01:52:04.119 --> 01:52:05.359 I didn't even know that, bitch. 2525 01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:07.000 What's happening? So funny? 2526 01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:07.359 Why am I? 2527 01:52:11.479 --> 01:52:13.520 In Justice three could be in development? According to a 2528 01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:18.840 Multiverse data minor, probably this is a nether Realm has 2529 01:52:19.079 --> 01:52:20.880 done two Mortal Kombats in a row for a while 2530 01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:23.600 there they were alternating, so they probably retreat back to 2531 01:52:23.640 --> 01:52:26.039 Injustice three, Let Mortal Kombats sit on the side for 2532 01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:27.279 a little bit a little bit, and then go back 2533 01:52:27.279 --> 01:52:29.479 to Mortal Rabbat. That just kind of lines up. 2534 01:52:29.560 --> 01:52:32.359 Wortal Kombat one I think did well, but right there 2535 01:52:32.399 --> 01:52:35.079 was kind of like almost infinite growth of Mortal Kombat 2536 01:52:35.119 --> 01:52:37.279 where they kept getting bigger for a while and eleven 2537 01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:40.199 did really really well, yes, and then it plateau and 2538 01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:41.880 it plateaued a bit with one, and some of the 2539 01:52:41.920 --> 01:52:44.600 decisions they made they weren't super well received by people. 2540 01:52:45.159 --> 01:52:47.720 So yeah, like, we don't need to jump right back 2541 01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:50.399 into Mortal Kombat again, go ahead do with Justice. Those 2542 01:52:50.439 --> 01:52:53.560 games were very popular. It's it's it's kind of been 2543 01:52:53.600 --> 01:52:55.840 a surprising long amount of time because again they did 2544 01:52:55.880 --> 01:52:58.359 do two Mortal Kombats in a row. One wasn't Justice. 2545 01:52:58.079 --> 01:52:59.279 Too twenty seventeen. 2546 01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:02.399 I always it's so bummed both times the announced Injustices 2547 01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:04.399 because it's like, oh, that means it's gonna be so 2548 01:53:04.720 --> 01:53:07.079 long for Mortal Combat and I don't care about Injustice. 2549 01:53:07.520 --> 01:53:09.359 Well you got two in a row, now, so there 2550 01:53:09.399 --> 01:53:09.560 you go. 2551 01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:11.720 Take three, one for me, one for you. 2552 01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:15.920 All right, that does it for the headlines. Jan the 2553 01:53:15.960 --> 01:53:16.800 show's back over to you. 2554 01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:18.880 We're gonna go take a quick pricky break and we 2555 01:53:18.920 --> 01:53:23.079 will be back with some e E merles right after this. 2556 01:53:31.079 --> 01:53:36.760 These are the emails or emails BombCast giant bomb dot 2557 01:53:36.800 --> 01:53:39.079 com is the email addressed to send your emails too, 2558 01:53:39.319 --> 01:53:41.119 And now I can read them again. 2559 01:53:41.399 --> 01:53:42.800 So thank you for all of that. 2560 01:53:43.520 --> 01:53:46.920 Uh random shouts out to Chuck Toowski just just cuz 2561 01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:49.960 here's here's like, uh, you know, Chuck, here's thirty five 2562 01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:50.960 podcast points. 2563 01:53:51.199 --> 01:53:53.760 I fuck with Chuck, WHOA don't make the shirt. 2564 01:53:53.760 --> 01:53:54.079 That's what. 2565 01:53:56.199 --> 01:53:58.199 That's we were paying in with podcast points. 2566 01:53:59.800 --> 01:54:02.560 That works. I mean, that's so all we're getting all 2567 01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:04.359 of us are getting paid in those for now. 2568 01:54:04.239 --> 01:54:08.560 And yeah dollars in a while, as well as the 2569 01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:13.239 cost ever sponsored the gathering of the Juggalos because they 2570 01:54:13.279 --> 01:54:15.359 could do magic the Gathering of the Juggalos. 2571 01:54:16.359 --> 01:54:20.760 Nice actually diagram there. Yeah, I'll get in touch with someone. 2572 01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:22.680 Maybe we can make that happen. Will you go to 2573 01:54:22.720 --> 01:54:23.760 the gathering then. 2574 01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:26.439 Mike, have you done research on the gathering? 2575 01:54:26.520 --> 01:54:27.680 I haven't done research yet. 2576 01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:29.079 You said you were going to research. 2577 01:54:30.720 --> 01:54:33.760 Nice so, like, so you guys were doing this running 2578 01:54:33.800 --> 01:54:35.520 gag for a while and the part of me is like, 2579 01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:37.079 I need to put my foot down. This is like 2580 01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:38.439 a start of a new relationship with us, and I 2581 01:54:38.439 --> 01:54:40.159 got to make it clear, like you know, if I 2582 01:54:40.199 --> 01:54:42.199 say no, that means though, that's kind of right, and 2583 01:54:42.199 --> 01:54:44.840 the like before you athing even happened, Dan very Sincere 2584 01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:46.840 was like, oh, Michael, if you really don't want to 2585 01:54:46.840 --> 01:54:48.800 do it, it's fine, I'll drop it. And I was like, yeah, 2586 01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:50.800 I don't want to. Yeah, me and Jeff might still go, 2587 01:54:50.880 --> 01:54:56.680 though I was like immediately not without me, but I 2588 01:54:56.720 --> 01:54:59.479 know you're somewhat interested. I would implore you to look 2589 01:54:59.479 --> 01:54:59.720 it up. 2590 01:54:59.720 --> 01:55:01.880 And I watch several videos of people that like don't 2591 01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:04.199 know Jugglo stuff that showed up and what's this all about? 2592 01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:07.439 And it's like everyone's super welcoming and nice and everything, like, yeah, 2593 01:55:07.479 --> 01:55:11.119 it's gonna be a crazy environment, research interesting and nice. 2594 01:55:11.640 --> 01:55:16.000 Everyone send your positive Juggalo stories and video clips to 2595 01:55:16.119 --> 01:55:16.560 Mike Mona. 2596 01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:17.840 There's gonna be wrestling there. 2597 01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:20.039 I know Willie Mack he'll protect us, you know. 2598 01:55:20.199 --> 01:55:23.800 Like, uh, it's like a three or four hour drive 2599 01:55:23.840 --> 01:55:25.880 from I Google mapped it already. 2600 01:55:25.680 --> 01:55:29.720 So yeah, we can just hop in the minivan and 2601 01:55:29.760 --> 01:55:30.279 just go out. 2602 01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:32.840 And stream the drive out to the gathering. 2603 01:55:32.920 --> 01:55:35.000 Fuck yeah, Okay, Mike Tyson run in. 2604 01:55:35.199 --> 01:55:37.439 So I fly to grubs House and then we take 2605 01:55:37.479 --> 01:55:38.039 a road trip. 2606 01:55:38.079 --> 01:55:40.560 Got yeah, exactly, So we fly to Cleveland and then 2607 01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:41.279 we go to the gathering. 2608 01:55:41.319 --> 01:55:43.680 Yeah all right, okay, yeah, Like. 2609 01:55:44.039 --> 01:55:46.359 I feel like Backler's is not even acknowledging when we 2610 01:55:46.399 --> 01:55:46.960 talk about this. 2611 01:55:49.680 --> 01:55:50.039 Anything. 2612 01:55:50.159 --> 01:55:53.359 What the honestly, Backler, can we put like some incentive 2613 01:55:53.399 --> 01:55:54.760 on one of these things where if we reach a 2614 01:55:54.760 --> 01:55:57.760 certain threshold, you have to go to the juggle. 2615 01:55:57.920 --> 01:56:00.960 I'm sorry, there's I'm just being is this Dracula at 2616 01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:01.279 the moment? 2617 01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:04.520 Okay, that's what it is, all right, we'll pretending. 2618 01:56:04.760 --> 01:56:05.600 Yeah, I'm pretending. 2619 01:56:05.600 --> 01:56:05.960 You're right. 2620 01:56:06.159 --> 01:56:09.520 I've got wordle up on my fucking huh what what 2621 01:56:09.640 --> 01:56:09.920 is this? 2622 01:56:10.119 --> 01:56:14.000 No, So, me and. 2623 01:56:14.039 --> 01:56:16.880 Jan are gonna fly out to Cleveland. 2624 01:56:17.199 --> 01:56:19.840 We're all gonna do a road trip down to the 2625 01:56:19.840 --> 01:56:21.960 gathering in the jugg loos and we will do a 2626 01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:25.279 hell of a like a feature length maybe uh the 2627 01:56:25.319 --> 01:56:30.000 documentary travelogue of us at the gathering Josh Cinema. 2628 01:56:30.119 --> 01:56:32.720 Yeah, m quanchie. 2629 01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:36.159 So we'll have the Quantchi makeup, grub will be uh, 2630 01:56:36.239 --> 01:56:38.479 we'll fext thing and I'll just be straight up Juggalo 2631 01:56:38.840 --> 01:56:41.359 and we will infiltrate the gathering of the Juggalos. We'll 2632 01:56:41.399 --> 01:56:43.520 do the bomb cast from there. We'll do voicemail, dump 2633 01:56:43.560 --> 01:56:45.760 truck live. We'll just have Juggalos ask us questions. 2634 01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:46.640 So like we will. 2635 01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:49.359 We're not taking a week off. We're doing giant bomb 2636 01:56:49.479 --> 01:56:50.399 from the gathering. 2637 01:56:50.840 --> 01:56:56.279 To be determined. We need three votes backlar So. 2638 01:56:58.680 --> 01:57:01.600 No, we need a lot. We need thousands and thousands 2639 01:57:01.600 --> 01:57:05.000 of dollars. 2640 01:57:05.880 --> 01:57:10.319 It's not his problem anymore, it's all of our problems. 2641 01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:11.199 We got the votes. 2642 01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:14.159 We could probably if we could do that, we got 2643 01:57:14.159 --> 01:57:15.800 the That bit sucks. 2644 01:57:15.840 --> 01:57:19.840 I love that sucks. We can get a sponsorship from Fago. 2645 01:57:20.039 --> 01:57:21.079 Do we think that bit sucks. 2646 01:57:21.119 --> 01:57:24.560 Let's vote that bit sucks. 2647 01:57:24.640 --> 01:57:28.079 Yeah, I vote the bit sucks. Yeah. I don't know, 2648 01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:31.239 Like I've only seen the gathering through the lens of 2649 01:57:31.319 --> 01:57:36.439 like very disappointing and upsetting documentaries. Sure, and I just 2650 01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:37.640 feel like I. 2651 01:57:37.640 --> 01:57:39.199 Don't know, likevice correct the record. 2652 01:57:39.319 --> 01:57:41.319 Yeah, like weis went there one year and was like, 2653 01:57:41.319 --> 01:57:43.319 oh buddy, you you ain't seen nothing yet. 2654 01:57:43.479 --> 01:57:45.840 Let's run a chat poll if it came down to, hey, 2655 01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:48.319 we are either going to games Com or the gathering 2656 01:57:48.399 --> 01:57:52.720 the Juggalos with our audience that we serve prefer because 2657 01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:54.039 we listened to you folks. 2658 01:57:56.239 --> 01:57:58.439 Yeah, I just want to send you Dan by yourself. 2659 01:57:58.520 --> 01:57:59.720 Well, I need to do a film. 2660 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:02.319 I got to end the last poll. The last poll, 2661 01:58:02.359 --> 01:58:04.640 by the way, is who is pooping? That was from 2662 01:58:04.640 --> 01:58:07.439 the first break. Fifteen percent said back of our, three 2663 01:58:07.479 --> 01:58:09.760 percent said back of our, four percent said back of oar, 2664 01:58:09.840 --> 01:58:12.279 and seventy seven percent said back to up alarm. 2665 01:58:12.439 --> 01:58:14.680 Wait, you only made me the answer. 2666 01:58:14.840 --> 01:58:18.239 Well you're going a while you're just wondering. 2667 01:58:18.760 --> 01:58:22.399 All right, Well, no I wasn't, don't I don't poop? Afternoon, Everyone, 2668 01:58:22.479 --> 01:58:23.119 knows that. 2669 01:58:23.920 --> 01:58:26.520 If anyone from the Juggalos is watching, we'll do the 2670 01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:28.800 dump truck on the stage. We will do it on 2671 01:58:28.920 --> 01:58:31.079 stage at the gathering. Giant, I'm at the gathering. 2672 01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:35.159 I'm glad you booked us. Uh yeah, I mean Jan, 2673 01:58:35.319 --> 01:58:39.279 you would go see here's the thing is, would have 2674 01:58:39.680 --> 01:58:42.079 would have? What a confident yet No, no, no, no, here's 2675 01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:42.600 the thing is. 2676 01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:44.800 Like I love how we're asking for like Mike if 2677 01:58:44.800 --> 01:58:47.079 he's okay with it, and then it's just as assumption 2678 01:58:47.279 --> 01:58:48.359 like that, I'm just going. 2679 01:58:48.560 --> 01:58:51.199 Jane's game for shit. 2680 01:58:52.319 --> 01:58:55.359 We've established the mic as a travel baby. Janna's game. 2681 01:58:56.319 --> 01:58:58.079 I think I'm just game for shit because it's the 2682 01:58:58.079 --> 01:59:03.399 only option. Sometimes you have agency here. 2683 01:59:03.880 --> 01:59:06.560 Now, don't change things then say no, Jan. 2684 01:59:06.680 --> 01:59:08.880 Jan, I went to tailgating and Philly with you and 2685 01:59:08.920 --> 01:59:09.479 it was a delight. 2686 01:59:09.560 --> 01:59:10.119 We gotta have. 2687 01:59:10.239 --> 01:59:10.840 That's true. 2688 01:59:11.399 --> 01:59:12.399 Well that's actually not that. 2689 01:59:12.479 --> 01:59:18.479 Do Juggles eat food, copples, nothing, but it's something but 2690 01:59:18.640 --> 01:59:22.439 photo cakes. Oh man. 2691 01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:24.880 The gatherings out to an early largely. 2692 01:59:24.840 --> 01:59:29.199 Yeah, okay, we're listening to the growing run it. 2693 01:59:29.239 --> 01:59:31.479 I don't switch. Twitch will have our back. Twitch is 2694 01:59:31.600 --> 01:59:33.159 a games Com crowd. 2695 01:59:33.239 --> 01:59:36.039 VGC will cover games Com you'll get the news. We 2696 01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:37.520 need to go talk to clowns. 2697 01:59:37.840 --> 01:59:40.439 Hey, Mike, if it helps, I can send you a 2698 01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:46.279 video where at the uh twenty second mark there's something 2699 01:59:46.319 --> 01:59:47.359 that appeals to you. 2700 01:59:47.840 --> 01:59:48.960 Is it a Mickey Mounse. 2701 01:59:49.199 --> 01:59:56.359 No, Mickey Mounse, it's not a Mega man I will 2702 01:59:56.479 --> 01:59:59.760 if there is, Yeah, go ahead. 2703 02:00:00.079 --> 02:00:00.640 If we can. 2704 02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:05.199 Convince the Juggalos to let Mike perform the gamer wrap, yeah. 2705 02:00:05.079 --> 02:00:07.880 I mean I do have one degree of separation from 2706 02:00:07.920 --> 02:00:09.439 the actual insane clown posse. 2707 02:00:09.560 --> 02:00:10.680 I could talk to Willie Mack. 2708 02:00:10.920 --> 02:00:14.079 You you could get in contact with the violent Jay. 2709 02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:16.920 Insane clowns. 2710 02:00:17.319 --> 02:00:20.199 Here's the thing, It's like, the trip that really matters 2711 02:00:20.199 --> 02:00:22.840 to me that I need to do is to see 2712 02:00:22.920 --> 02:00:25.960 the penguin Tolkoto at the El Paso Zoo. 2713 02:00:26.399 --> 02:00:28.760 Got absolutely go with you to that, So like, I. 2714 02:00:28.720 --> 02:00:30.439 Got to make sure that happens, and I'll pay my 2715 02:00:30.479 --> 02:00:32.640 own way to go to this fucking zoo to see 2716 02:00:32.680 --> 02:00:36.239 my penguin child that I'm very excited about. I can 2717 02:00:36.279 --> 02:00:37.840 post pictures of it. And now, by the way, I 2718 02:00:37.840 --> 02:00:40.520 think it's kind of clear book of health. Yes, yes, 2719 02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:43.600 Tolkoto the penguin Penguin's rule too. I'm so happy it's 2720 02:00:43.640 --> 02:00:45.199 a penguin that's been named after me. 2721 02:00:45.600 --> 02:00:48.000 Well, think about how many little jug lets could be 2722 02:00:48.079 --> 02:00:50.079 named to. 2723 02:00:52.079 --> 02:00:53.960 I was gonna say, I'm a little concerned that I 2724 02:00:53.960 --> 02:00:56.000 don't see as many brown people. But I guess a 2725 02:00:56.000 --> 02:00:57.800 lot of people are wearing makeup, so I don't know. 2726 02:00:58.239 --> 02:00:58.720 That's right. 2727 02:00:58.800 --> 02:01:00.800 Yeah, that's what it is. I had a brown friend 2728 02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:03.359 that was into the into ICP. That's the first person 2729 02:01:03.359 --> 02:01:04.239 I know who's in ICP. 2730 02:01:04.399 --> 02:01:05.199 His name is my tune. 2731 02:01:05.399 --> 02:01:08.760 Okay, introduce to I'm looking up who's playing at Okay? 2732 02:01:08.840 --> 02:01:09.880 So oh? 2733 02:01:09.880 --> 02:01:12.840 The only ones thatnounced so far for the legendary stage 2734 02:01:12.960 --> 02:01:14.760 are the insane clown Posse. 2735 02:01:15.479 --> 02:01:16.800 Oh they're they're gonna be there. 2736 02:01:16.840 --> 02:01:22.640 And uh Uigi Mac He's a magician. Some call him 2737 02:01:22.640 --> 02:01:26.560 a magician, others call him it's a speaks from the 2738 02:01:26.600 --> 02:01:30.079 world beyond. Oh my god. Okay, we maximum's crazy. 2739 02:01:30.520 --> 02:01:32.439 I don't know, guys, maybe in my twenties. 2740 02:01:33.439 --> 02:01:35.600 This is no, you're like twenty nine, right, come on, 2741 02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:37.439 this is too goddamn, but we have to do it. 2742 02:01:38.680 --> 02:01:42.079 I think talking about it is way funnier than it 2743 02:01:42.119 --> 02:01:42.680 will be more. 2744 02:01:42.960 --> 02:01:43.840 I disagree. 2745 02:01:43.960 --> 02:01:49.079 God, it's in Ohio. Here's Beckler what are your thoughts business, Dracula? 2746 02:01:49.920 --> 02:01:51.760 I mean you know what I think. 2747 02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:52.840 Are you pro this? 2748 02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:54.840 No? In no way? 2749 02:01:55.760 --> 02:02:02.159 No, you pro this like impossible, like be good for 2750 02:02:02.199 --> 02:02:04.680 our website. I think if you want to go, I 2751 02:02:04.720 --> 02:02:05.840 think i'd watch it. 2752 02:02:05.960 --> 02:02:08.239 At least give me a jan. And also it's in Ohio, 2753 02:02:08.319 --> 02:02:09.359 so they're already right there. 2754 02:02:09.840 --> 02:02:11.880 I'm gonna go right there. 2755 02:02:12.199 --> 02:02:15.000 We have the votes. A three hour drive for someone 2756 02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:15.800 in Ohio's nothing. 2757 02:02:16.039 --> 02:02:16.359 We do that. 2758 02:02:18.079 --> 02:02:21.439 So Mike grub Jan and Dan me. 2759 02:02:22.000 --> 02:02:25.199 Fly we do all the fucking week's content from there. 2760 02:02:25.199 --> 02:02:28.079 You could do it quickly a second. I'll just back 2761 02:02:28.159 --> 02:02:31.920 up a bit a week. How do you think we're 2762 02:02:31.920 --> 02:02:33.119 gonna are the days? 2763 02:02:33.159 --> 02:02:35.239 I actually don't know what the day a week? 2764 02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:38.560 Hell up, we'll go for a day for a day. 2765 02:02:38.680 --> 02:02:40.399 How about what is up yours timeline? 2766 02:02:40.439 --> 02:02:45.920 And afternoon? Maybe day for a week in August thirteenth. 2767 02:02:46.000 --> 02:02:52.800 It's August thirteenth to August seventeenth. So one night staying 2768 02:02:53.000 --> 02:02:58.560 on like the Juggalo campus or whatever, like an attent campus. 2769 02:02:59.159 --> 02:03:02.279 Yes for me, we'd I will stay in a tent. 2770 02:03:02.439 --> 02:03:04.840 We will befriend Juggalos and stay in their tents. 2771 02:03:05.000 --> 02:03:10.840 I won't absolutely anniversary they're tens. It's a circus. 2772 02:03:12.279 --> 02:03:13.000 We will find one. 2773 02:03:13.600 --> 02:03:15.840 Hey, I'm I'm grub you. 2774 02:03:15.920 --> 02:03:19.000 First, I got a Google Juggalo campus and the first 2775 02:03:19.079 --> 02:03:22.640 thing was a Reddit post. Have any Juggalos attended college. 2776 02:03:24.800 --> 02:03:25.880 Cloud College. 2777 02:03:28.039 --> 02:03:30.720 I'm just gonna say this, based off of the parts 2778 02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:34.000 of the Internet that we all appeal to, I feel 2779 02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:36.439 like we'd be some high rollers over there. 2780 02:03:36.880 --> 02:03:38.840 I think I think we'd be welcome with open all. 2781 02:03:38.880 --> 02:03:41.520 I mean, I can legit reach out to them and 2782 02:03:41.560 --> 02:03:43.119 see if they want to have us do like a 2783 02:03:43.159 --> 02:03:45.600 life stam the clowns. 2784 02:03:50.319 --> 02:03:53.399 We're about this like, it's like, think about it. You 2785 02:03:53.439 --> 02:03:56.039 could do an acoustic version of Sending the Kwans. 2786 02:03:57.560 --> 02:03:59.800 Why why can't we go to hell Fest? Why is 2787 02:03:59.840 --> 02:04:02.239 that not a thing? Because this is way funny here, 2788 02:04:03.239 --> 02:04:03.840 that's true. 2789 02:04:03.880 --> 02:04:04.359 Thank you. 2790 02:04:04.720 --> 02:04:06.680 These are the emails for the show. 2791 02:04:07.880 --> 02:04:09.680 You just have to see the vision. I promise it'll 2792 02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:10.000 be good. 2793 02:04:10.159 --> 02:04:12.039 Oh I see the vision. I just don't want to 2794 02:04:12.079 --> 02:04:12.840 put on the glass. 2795 02:04:13.199 --> 02:04:16.159 He hates the vision, all. 2796 02:04:16.119 --> 02:04:19.720 Right, Fargo fun Well, we'll go nuts to the game. 2797 02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:22.560 This is not Fargo, buddy, This is a whole different. 2798 02:04:25.760 --> 02:04:26.239 Not Fargo. 2799 02:04:26.239 --> 02:04:28.840 It's very good, John, Mike, I heard it's. 2800 02:04:29.680 --> 02:04:36.600 Okay, yes, yeah, you know what I'll go Yes, yes, 2801 02:04:36.680 --> 02:04:37.199 it's happened. 2802 02:04:38.840 --> 02:04:40.399 Can I reach out to the Juggalos? 2803 02:04:40.880 --> 02:04:45.319 You can reach out to the jug Remind me reach 2804 02:04:45.399 --> 02:04:46.800 out Insane clown. 2805 02:04:46.520 --> 02:04:50.800 Posse email The Insane Clown Possy is a very fun idea. 2806 02:04:51.279 --> 02:04:55.279 Will I don't know what you're expecting to hear back? 2807 02:04:55.560 --> 02:04:56.920 What if they want us to do? 2808 02:04:57.319 --> 02:04:59.079 Like they don't even have a lot of announced accents. 2809 02:04:59.119 --> 02:05:01.279 If they do comedians, I do like, like, let's see 2810 02:05:01.279 --> 02:05:03.239 if they went on ABS do the Boyemame Dump Truck Live? 2811 02:05:03.920 --> 02:05:09.439 Oh no, with Q and a style of Juggalos. 2812 02:05:11.319 --> 02:05:15.319 Our second lost episode. 2813 02:05:16.319 --> 02:05:18.079 I think that's the kind of news we don't want 2814 02:05:18.079 --> 02:05:21.439 to be making them all. 2815 02:05:21.359 --> 02:05:21.840 Right, right? 2816 02:05:22.840 --> 02:05:27.840 Mail comes from Tonka uh good afternoon, Dudeer's tonker Toy 2817 02:05:27.880 --> 02:05:31.399 from Gloucester, England. Here to say our annual cheese rolling 2818 02:05:31.479 --> 02:05:34.880 Festival is upon us this coming Monday. YouTube it and 2819 02:05:35.039 --> 02:05:37.359 was wondering if Dan likes cheese so much, would he 2820 02:05:37.479 --> 02:05:40.920 chase a wheel of double Gloucester down a steep hill. 2821 02:05:41.239 --> 02:05:43.479 I show speed entered last year and it ended up. 2822 02:05:43.439 --> 02:05:44.159 In the hospital. 2823 02:05:44.720 --> 02:05:45.319 Oh my god. 2824 02:05:45.680 --> 02:05:48.199 Also, is there any weird annual traditions in your area 2825 02:05:48.239 --> 02:05:50.560 which you could partake in many thanks, love you long time. 2826 02:05:50.600 --> 02:05:55.000 The Uh. 2827 02:05:55.119 --> 02:05:56.680 No, I would just buy cheese at the store like 2828 02:05:56.720 --> 02:05:58.840 a normal person. Okay, you wouldn't roll after it. 2829 02:05:59.479 --> 02:06:00.600 No, it's dangerous. 2830 02:06:01.239 --> 02:06:02.520 This is like what I want to do. I'll go 2831 02:06:02.560 --> 02:06:04.960 to the cheese festival, not the I'll do that too. 2832 02:06:05.520 --> 02:06:09.199 The juggle Let me everywhere with Jane camera. I would 2833 02:06:09.239 --> 02:06:09.520 love that. 2834 02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:13.680 Yeah, this is We're gonna have a budanza of a time. 2835 02:06:14.039 --> 02:06:17.600 Yeah, joint fun to sending me around the world with 2836 02:06:17.760 --> 02:06:20.720 Jan One of those small towns they have, like you know, 2837 02:06:20.840 --> 02:06:24.960 like for like the holidays, like Memorial Day, we have parades. 2838 02:06:25.319 --> 02:06:26.960 But all the parade is is we get all the 2839 02:06:27.079 --> 02:06:30.039 kids and the like Little League teams to walk together, 2840 02:06:30.119 --> 02:06:33.399 and then a bunch of like every fire truck in town, Yeah, 2841 02:06:33.399 --> 02:06:35.600 goes and blares their sirens and like this is a 2842 02:06:35.600 --> 02:06:36.119 good time. 2843 02:06:36.319 --> 02:06:36.920 This is nice. 2844 02:06:36.960 --> 02:06:39.239 I'm glad we shut down the roads for this. 2845 02:06:39.680 --> 02:06:44.199 Yeah, that's what we pay taxes for parades, fire truck parades. 2846 02:06:44.560 --> 02:06:45.279 Uh. 2847 02:06:45.319 --> 02:06:48.319 This whole gathering of the Juggalos has taken a long 2848 02:06:48.399 --> 02:06:51.840 long time. So, uh, we're just gonna breeze through some emails. 2849 02:06:51.880 --> 02:06:53.319 I have an email address for the clowns. 2850 02:06:54.840 --> 02:06:55.520 That was fast. 2851 02:06:55.840 --> 02:06:57.560 I hope we do a voicemail up truck behind the 2852 02:06:57.600 --> 02:07:00.319 chicken wire from Blues Brothers, just. 2853 02:07:00.239 --> 02:07:06.399 Like, oh boy, that's good. 2854 02:07:06.720 --> 02:07:08.279 What what are they are? 2855 02:07:08.479 --> 02:07:09.600 Smart businessman? 2856 02:07:09.880 --> 02:07:13.000 If you get the ICP VIP experience, if you buy it, 2857 02:07:13.359 --> 02:07:16.800 you get a VIP experience. Laminated pass an ICP cartoon, 2858 02:07:16.880 --> 02:07:21.439 amulet an ice, hatchetman cooling towel, and a six inch 2859 02:07:21.760 --> 02:07:25.800 hatchetman magnet. They're fucking monetizing their magnet. 2860 02:07:25.840 --> 02:07:29.439 Bit yahy say it a six inch magnet? 2861 02:07:29.680 --> 02:07:31.560 I don't know, but it's the magnets. How do they work? 2862 02:07:31.600 --> 02:07:31.760 Thing? 2863 02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:35.760 They've monetized that. Of course these clowns no clowns. 2864 02:07:37.960 --> 02:07:38.279 Wow. 2865 02:07:38.560 --> 02:07:41.680 I think I introed grubbed this podcast as a clown. 2866 02:07:42.520 --> 02:07:44.000 And here we are at the gather. 2867 02:07:45.520 --> 02:07:47.800 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I got more breaking 2868 02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:49.479 news here. Thursday night. We have to be there at 2869 02:07:49.560 --> 02:07:53.560 least because there's the Fago Armageddon. It allows you to 2870 02:07:53.600 --> 02:07:56.840 come on stage during the climactic conclusion of ICP's performance 2871 02:07:56.840 --> 02:08:00.359 on Thursday night to partake and the childlike euphoria of 2872 02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:04.359 Fago Armageddon. If you have never experienced the chaotic Fago 2873 02:08:04.479 --> 02:08:08.079 fueled madness of hundreds upon hundreds of Fago bottles being 2874 02:08:08.079 --> 02:08:10.600 sprayed in all directions during the finale of ICP Show. 2875 02:08:10.800 --> 02:08:11.640 Here's your chance. 2876 02:08:11.920 --> 02:08:14.640 Each Ninja that purchases the Fago Armageddon will also get 2877 02:08:14.680 --> 02:08:17.000 a gift bag with a Fago amulet. 2878 02:08:18.560 --> 02:08:19.960 I need a Fago amulet? 2879 02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:21.880 What's the where's ninja? 2880 02:08:21.960 --> 02:08:26.800 Ninja? Okay, all right, just let's. 2881 02:08:26.720 --> 02:08:27.880 Just back away from that one. 2882 02:08:28.039 --> 02:08:30.439 Don't worry about it, all right, don't worry. 2883 02:08:30.279 --> 02:08:32.520 They want They may be using the word nina. 2884 02:08:33.880 --> 02:08:36.880 There's a Saturday night too. Okay, so we go to 2885 02:08:36.920 --> 02:08:38.800 either what are they doing? 2886 02:08:39.159 --> 02:08:44.119 Yeah, hey, you figure just connected the dots there, Mike, mikey. 2887 02:08:44.199 --> 02:08:47.840 What if Fago Armageddon is like that one episode of 2888 02:08:47.960 --> 02:08:54.000 Rescue Rangers where it's all soda ninja. 2889 02:08:55.079 --> 02:08:59.920 No, no, no, no, wait, there's something going? 2890 02:09:00.239 --> 02:09:02.319 Oh going? 2891 02:09:02.800 --> 02:09:03.399 Is it don't work? 2892 02:09:03.600 --> 02:09:11.880 This is something back? It says jug a little capable 2893 02:09:12.000 --> 02:09:12.880 of throwing faygo. 2894 02:09:13.439 --> 02:09:15.600 Why why would a what a rapper want to use 2895 02:09:15.640 --> 02:09:19.600 the word ninja. 2896 02:09:25.880 --> 02:09:31.079 I'm not killing Somebody tell her you got that? Somebody 2897 02:09:31.159 --> 02:09:33.520 tell you you got. 2898 02:09:35.720 --> 02:09:35.800 That? 2899 02:09:36.079 --> 02:09:36.800 Was like. 2900 02:09:38.479 --> 02:09:47.359 Winning the pool doing something bad, something that. 2901 02:09:47.359 --> 02:09:47.760 I got there. 2902 02:09:47.800 --> 02:09:49.039 I've never actually heard of icy. 2903 02:09:49.039 --> 02:09:51.880 P it's so good. 2904 02:09:54.439 --> 02:09:56.359 They're not the only white rappers that do that. 2905 02:09:56.479 --> 02:09:57.119 A lot of them. 2906 02:10:00.039 --> 02:10:01.560 What's more businessman. 2907 02:10:07.319 --> 02:10:08.439 Emails? Please? 2908 02:10:08.680 --> 02:10:10.800 Yeah, Murray heiso heiso. 2909 02:10:11.720 --> 02:10:15.479 We were doing any more wrestling? Like? 2910 02:10:15.760 --> 02:10:17.479 Is that only wrestling or is that nothing? 2911 02:10:18.079 --> 02:10:20.199 Very that's like Carney Carney wrestling. 2912 02:10:20.439 --> 02:10:21.239 That's clowns again. 2913 02:10:25.159 --> 02:10:29.239 Okay, all these other emails are very serious. 2914 02:10:29.680 --> 02:10:33.680 By bottle Water, they have fresh drinking water at Bottlefield stations. 2915 02:10:33.720 --> 02:10:37.520 That's great. Talk about the Juggalo for a bit, or 2916 02:10:37.640 --> 02:10:39.119 clowns or fake o. 2917 02:10:41.279 --> 02:10:43.359 So Mike, if you almost die again like a game's calm, 2918 02:10:43.600 --> 02:10:45.319 the clowns will set you up a. 2919 02:10:47.239 --> 02:10:49.720 Everyone, take a breath and listen to the email. Cool 2920 02:10:49.800 --> 02:10:53.560 down you're on clown cool down impressions. 2921 02:10:53.960 --> 02:10:58.239 Okay, funny the second and last email of the show 2922 02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:01.560 because of timing and just the length of all the 2923 02:11:01.600 --> 02:11:05.479 other emails are very serious. Thank you everyone for the 2924 02:11:05.560 --> 02:11:09.960 love that you're showing. Let's see the bathroom fabric that 2925 02:11:10.000 --> 02:11:12.399 looks like a loop is not a loop. It's a 2926 02:11:12.439 --> 02:11:15.800 long towel kind of like an overhead projector old people know. 2927 02:11:16.600 --> 02:11:18.720 But why does it? Okay, I'm sorry you finished it. 2928 02:11:18.760 --> 02:11:20.800 Imagine you could use a cloth towel in a public 2929 02:11:20.840 --> 02:11:23.119 bathroom and be confident that it has never been used 2930 02:11:23.119 --> 02:11:26.800 by another person. That is what the cloth track provide. 2931 02:11:27.000 --> 02:11:29.720 The long towels removed and washed regularly. If you get 2932 02:11:29.720 --> 02:11:31.880 to the end of the track, it must it must 2933 02:11:31.920 --> 02:11:35.279 be reset after removing and watching it. Don't you use 2934 02:11:35.279 --> 02:11:36.359 your head. Don't be a dan. 2935 02:11:36.800 --> 02:11:41.479 Yeah hey wait, well that tracks? But also where was this? 2936 02:11:41.600 --> 02:11:42.399 Where was this from? 2937 02:11:42.439 --> 02:11:42.680 Again? 2938 02:11:42.880 --> 02:11:46.000 We talked about this last time because they used to 2939 02:11:46.000 --> 02:11:48.399 be at like schools, and I saw one recently at 2940 02:11:48.399 --> 02:11:51.199 a bar and my brother was confused. He just immediately 2941 02:11:51.439 --> 02:11:54.439 ripped it apart, thinking it was like, you know, hand 2942 02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:56.399 towels I need to throw away, and then they had 2943 02:11:56.399 --> 02:11:58.079 to go get normal air dryers. 2944 02:11:58.319 --> 02:12:00.399 So it's just like a comically long towel. 2945 02:12:00.560 --> 02:12:02.119 Yeah, I guess I didn't know that. I thought I 2946 02:12:02.119 --> 02:12:03.760 thought it was a very short towel that was getting 2947 02:12:03.760 --> 02:12:04.680 reused constantly. 2948 02:12:05.039 --> 02:12:06.640 But don't you think that there's okay, I guess I 2949 02:12:06.640 --> 02:12:08.840 thought it was a shorter towel to too. But my 2950 02:12:08.960 --> 02:12:12.319 assumption now is a lot of places don't actually wash it. 2951 02:12:12.359 --> 02:12:15.319 They just turn it back or whatever. 2952 02:12:16.439 --> 02:12:20.720 When are you the most clean though? After you've washed 2953 02:12:20.720 --> 02:12:22.800 your hands fair. 2954 02:12:22.920 --> 02:12:25.880 All right, Yeah, well it depends when some people wash 2955 02:12:25.920 --> 02:12:28.079 their hands, like what step of the activities you know? 2956 02:12:28.159 --> 02:12:30.039 Well, I don't think people are coming in wiping their 2957 02:12:30.079 --> 02:12:31.880 hands on the tel then washing their hands. 2958 02:12:32.000 --> 02:12:34.079 Yeah, but someone might not wash their hands but got 2959 02:12:34.119 --> 02:12:35.960 a little trickle on their fingers and wiped it off 2960 02:12:36.000 --> 02:12:36.239 on the. 2961 02:12:36.359 --> 02:12:41.239 Sure, it's it's a risk, that's a bathroom yep. 2962 02:12:41.439 --> 02:12:41.880 All right. 2963 02:12:41.960 --> 02:12:44.000 Well Dan's not talking because all you could think about 2964 02:12:44.039 --> 02:12:45.319 is don't, don't, don't, don't. 2965 02:12:45.680 --> 02:12:47.319 I'm looking at the fago arm again. 2966 02:12:47.680 --> 02:12:49.239 Let let him do his thing. 2967 02:12:49.239 --> 02:12:52.880 He's fine, he's jan After this goes off the air, 2968 02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:54.920 can we have a bonus post live thing where we 2969 02:12:54.960 --> 02:12:56.600 watched the commercial for this year's gathering? 2970 02:12:57.119 --> 02:12:57.880 Yeah, I guess so. 2971 02:12:58.079 --> 02:13:00.399 Okay, I'm excited. Well I'll watch it together. 2972 02:13:00.720 --> 02:13:06.640 Okay, all right, Podcastagiant Bump dot com. It's the email 2973 02:13:06.680 --> 02:13:09.199 address to send your emails too. We normally read all 2974 02:13:09.239 --> 02:13:11.479 of your emails, or at least a good chunk of them, 2975 02:13:11.600 --> 02:13:13.560 but we were sidetracked today. 2976 02:13:14.359 --> 02:13:15.600 But send them in anyway. 2977 02:13:15.640 --> 02:13:16.159 I love them. 2978 02:13:16.199 --> 02:13:18.640 And if you want to shout someone out specifically, I 2979 02:13:18.680 --> 02:13:22.800 will try and relay that info to the proper parties. 2980 02:13:23.119 --> 02:13:25.159 What do we got going on the rest of this week, Bars, 2981 02:13:26.439 --> 02:13:30.079 we have hoping to find time to record a demo Derby. 2982 02:13:30.159 --> 02:13:30.800 What the hell is that? 2983 02:13:31.800 --> 02:13:34.800 Yes, hopefully demo Derby going up this week. We got 2984 02:13:34.840 --> 02:13:38.000 Bailey on the dump truck. We have We're gonna be 2985 02:13:38.159 --> 02:13:43.560 Mosquitos for upf. There is a asymmetric mister Mosquito like 2986 02:13:44.039 --> 02:13:46.600 that's coming out called the Mosquito Gang that we're gonna 2987 02:13:46.600 --> 02:13:50.079 play one versus four on Friday morning. 2988 02:13:50.159 --> 02:13:51.920 Mess What am I missing here? 2989 02:13:52.640 --> 02:13:54.880 Kind of not much shit, Like, we're gonna get a 2990 02:13:54.920 --> 02:13:56.760 couple more quick looks into the can where there's a 2991 02:13:56.800 --> 02:13:58.840 bunch of games we want to do those for. So yeah, 2992 02:13:58.840 --> 02:13:59.960 plenty of stuff happening. 2993 02:14:02.840 --> 02:14:05.039 Oh yeah, Blake Club, Blake Yeah, Blake Club. 2994 02:14:05.199 --> 02:14:08.279 As we go forward, we'll be doing more fun random 2995 02:14:08.319 --> 02:14:11.399 stuff like maybe some streams during the day. Right now, 2996 02:14:11.479 --> 02:14:13.000 we are still figuring a lot of stuff out and 2997 02:14:13.039 --> 02:14:14.479 kind of figuring out what we can do with the 2998 02:14:14.760 --> 02:14:17.399 capacity that we have. So look forward to more. 2999 02:14:17.680 --> 02:14:18.039 Yeah. 3000 02:14:18.119 --> 02:14:21.399 Yeah. In the meantime, seven O seven Exit flu is 3001 02:14:21.439 --> 02:14:23.720 the phone number to send your voicemails too. You can 3002 02:14:24.359 --> 02:14:27.640 I don't know, calling about failure or whatever you want. 3003 02:14:28.079 --> 02:14:32.319 Perhaps a gang that about wraps it up for the show. 3004 02:14:32.439 --> 02:14:35.359 If you're watching live, I guess stay tuned because we'll 3005 02:14:35.359 --> 02:14:38.239 go watch the gathering of the Juggle video. Yes, but 3006 02:14:38.319 --> 02:14:41.600 until then, Gang, he's been Mike. He's been Dan, he's 3007 02:14:41.600 --> 02:14:43.720 been Jeff. He's been Jeff. 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