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<v Speaker 1>Oh Medal, that are.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 2>of Conspiracy and I am the Cajun nine, Am Raven Lee,

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<v Speaker 2>and today we are going to be diving into a

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<v Speaker 2>conspiratorial topic that, while it may not sound very pertinent

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<v Speaker 2>on the onset to what is going on right now

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<v Speaker 2>in our world and in our zeitgeist, I promise it

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<v Speaker 2>is absolutely right there in the mix of what is

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<v Speaker 2>happening in our current day and age. So Ravenly, you're

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's relatively new to diving into the conspiratorial talking headspace, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know about some conspiratorial things, of course, But let's

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<v Speaker 2>just go back here a bit. You know who Alex

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<v Speaker 2>Jones is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? Do you know Coast to Coast AM Radio with

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<v Speaker 4>Art Bell?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So Art Bell was essentially the godfather to conspiracy podcasting

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<v Speaker 2>before podcasting was a thing. He had an AM radio

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<v Speaker 2>station that would play on certain AM stations for like

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<v Speaker 2>certain times. My dad used to listen to him when

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be working, like night shifts or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'd only be on AM radio.

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<v Speaker 3>God Like, I remember listening to AM radio here and there.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember Grahama flipping back and forth to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't remember a lot of like stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>was on there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I ever. My dad stayed on some

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<v Speaker 2>AM radio.

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<v Speaker 3>The difference between A and FM though, like in genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>like the content.

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<v Speaker 2>Mostly AM radio was talk radio, NonStop. FM radio is

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<v Speaker 2>more often than not music.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes more sense. I'm just not a super talk

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<v Speaker 3>radio person.

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<v Speaker 2>Nor was I growing up, but my dad was listening

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of conservative radio.

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<v Speaker 4>A little uh Jabo, a little ed Bud.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, certain people that know about this timeframe will

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<v Speaker 2>definitely resonate with what I'm talking about. And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>for anybody in the South who recognizes old Walton and

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson in the morning r.

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<v Speaker 3>Ip, I thought there's still around.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of them died and so the intern Ken

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<v Speaker 2>has taken over and the show was still doing fairly

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<v Speaker 2>successfully for.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard that, at least I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's I mean, when the guy that did half

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<v Speaker 2>of the voices dies, you know what I mean, It's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty tough, really is, and the show is awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so Art Bell was the conspiracy radio host,

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<v Speaker 2>and he would have people on. Some of these people

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<v Speaker 2>would be you know, government whistleblowers that.

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<v Speaker 4>Were coming on talking about it. And then other times

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<v Speaker 4>he would have a time traveler on the show, a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Traveler or somebody who was clearly abducted by the aliens.

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<v Speaker 2>He would never judge, he would never call them out.

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<v Speaker 2>He would just sit there and be like, okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>tell me more about this, and just like he would

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<v Speaker 2>commit to the bit no matter what the bit was.

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<v Speaker 2>Art Bell was there for all the buffoonery, all the smoke,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was great.

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<v Speaker 4>Times, right, I like it. Oh, he was solid, the

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<v Speaker 4>man of the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he went from AM to internet radio essentially and

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<v Speaker 2>not like XAM. He got his own website and that

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<v Speaker 2>just primarily became what he would do.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know it was it was an era for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But before Art Bell really made his way into the

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<v Speaker 2>AMS talking space, there was a guy in New York

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<v Speaker 2>who was doing wild things on public access television by

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<v Speaker 2>the name of Clay Tiffany. And I promise you've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard of this guy, and most of our cult members

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<v Speaker 2>have probably never heard of him, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Two weeks ago, I had never heard of this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a YouTube clip talking about how this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>through a weird chain of events, has a direct connection

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<v Speaker 2>with his death and Jeffrey Epstein and his death.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you have you have my attention because this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>afro is looking like Bob Ross.

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<v Speaker 4>He almost seems like he's got something wrong with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you'll understand whenever I play a clip from

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<v Speaker 2>him later, you'll see you'll get it. Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying a touch of the tism, but I'm saying like

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<v Speaker 2>something's something extra is going on up top, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>But whatever is the divergence strong?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, And like maybe that was a part of the bit, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was a very normal guy outside of the camera,

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<v Speaker 2>but on camera he was like committing to the bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a bunch of jobs. Was he a weird

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<v Speaker 3>basement driller. Well, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't really have a career anywhere, and I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>he ever made a dime off of his public access show.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a taxi driver for a bit. He did

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<v Speaker 4>odd jobs here and there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, yeah, yeah, to your point, might be

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<v Speaker 2>a type. But I don't want to just throw shade

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<v Speaker 2>at him, because you also have to understand that this

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<v Speaker 2>guy with his public access show again in and around

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<v Speaker 2>the New York area. What he decided to do was

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<v Speaker 2>call out corruption that he would see with government officials,

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<v Speaker 2>with journalists with mafia ties, to police officers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's oh, it was very ballsy. And again he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have like a big following.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he had some avid listeners and viewers, but

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part he was relatively in the realm

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<v Speaker 2>of obscurity until he started correctly naming certain police officers

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<v Speaker 2>that were obviously mafia connected. Long story short, he pissed

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<v Speaker 2>into the wrong bull of cheerios. And then this guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Nicholas Taglioni, which if you that name sounds semi familiar,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason because he was at Jeffrey Epstein's cellmate

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<v Speaker 2>and oh apparently back when he was a street cop

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<v Speaker 2>in New York and in different areas. He was in

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<v Speaker 2>Yonkers at one point, he was in Bridgeton Manor. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about his his track record as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because he kept going department to department because of him

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<v Speaker 2>being overly aggressive and beating.

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<v Speaker 4>The shit out of people.

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<v Speaker 2>So your boy Clay Tiffany calls him out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>by name, and mentions the fact that he is muscle

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<v Speaker 2>for the Bonano crime family and if anybody doesn't know

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<v Speaker 2>who that is, that's one of the five main families

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<v Speaker 2>of New York City as far as mafia is concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, the cop came and paid him a visit

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<v Speaker 2>and beat the shit out of him. Some reports say

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<v Speaker 2>two times, some reports say four times. He absolutely was

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<v Speaker 2>hospitalized because of one of these beatdowns that took place a.

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<v Speaker 3>Long story committed. He was committed to telling the truth,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you that much.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't care like he had nothing to lose. He

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<v Speaker 2>had no wife, for kids, as far as we could tell,

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<v Speaker 2>he had no familial connections.

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<v Speaker 3>To hybophixated on this and was not letting it go.

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<v Speaker 2>It was whatever a beat down and then he some

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<v Speaker 2>would say, actually ended.

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<v Speaker 4>Up dying on this hill.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh geez.

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever I found out about old Clay Tiffany, I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking, like, yeo, we'll probably do an episode on

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<v Speaker 2>him sometime the next couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's it's a cool one. It's a fun one.

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<v Speaker 2>But now that all the Epstein stuff is coming out

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<v Speaker 2>like it is, it's really worth our time and energy

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about Clay Tiffany now and the connection to

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<v Speaker 2>Nicholas Tartaglioni, and then talk about the Epstein murder and

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<v Speaker 2>now we're gonna not suicide by the way, murder.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the next episode we're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To shoot tomorrow is going to be about the new releases.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so it's gonna be definitely about the breakdown. I

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<v Speaker 3>found some really interesting people that are like of the

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<v Speaker 3>law pretty much, and they break it down for us

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<v Speaker 3>simpletons on what it actually means that the law that

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<v Speaker 3>Trump just passed for the Epstein files and what actually

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<v Speaker 3>is going to happen, and what it means to have

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<v Speaker 3>an open court case now for New York, and how

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<v Speaker 3>it pertains to these files, and how it pertains to

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<v Speaker 3>them dropping the they keep saying over and over again,

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<v Speaker 3>maximum transparency is what they're trying to have. Maximum transparency

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<v Speaker 3>under the law is what they the term that they

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<v Speaker 3>keep using over and over again. Well, there's a reason

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<v Speaker 3>why they're saying it just like that. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>found a lot of articles and a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>that break it down and explain what we're seeing. But

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<v Speaker 3>also the images that were shown. So there's two videos

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<v Speaker 3>and there's images that were photos that were released and

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<v Speaker 3>on top of everything else. But you'll see it all

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<v Speaker 3>over TikTok right now, the people talking about it, the videos,

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<v Speaker 3>they keep showing this statue and I'm trying to find

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<v Speaker 3>I recognize this statue specifically. I just cannot remember, for

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<v Speaker 3>the life of me who the artist is, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>currently still trying to find the artist. But this photo

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<v Speaker 3>that caught my eye the most is this blackboard that

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<v Speaker 3>has redacted words on it, but one of them has

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<v Speaker 3>music as a part of certain words power. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>remember the other word, but I will read it. But

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much the music thing is going to be it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to turn into its own episode. I decided that

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<v Speaker 3>it was way too much information about how music and rituals,

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<v Speaker 3>especially being in this specific person's house, and why that

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<v Speaker 3>would be left, because if you see the videos, the

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<v Speaker 3>house in and of itself is like sterile, clean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's all white, So why would they leave these

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<v Speaker 3>specific words on a blackboard that looks like, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>that there's rooms behind those blackboards. If you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the photo, it definitely looks like it's a secret wall

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<v Speaker 3>to go into another like tunnel or something else that's

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<v Speaker 3>behind it. But that being said, we are gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>to all of it everyone. I know that we've had

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<v Speaker 3>some cult members reach out to me at least and

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<v Speaker 3>seeing that they would like us to talk about Epstein.

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<v Speaker 3>I was honestly just waiting for the last twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>hours to unfold, because as we've been seeing, it's every

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<v Speaker 3>hour they're dropping new stuff. There's been like forty five

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<v Speaker 3>articles just in the last three hour hours.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're also this is only going to be an

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<v Speaker 2>update because I guarantee in another month or two more

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<v Speaker 2>things are going to be uncovered, and in another six months,

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<v Speaker 2>another year, some more things are going to come to light.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, this is not gonna be the end all,

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<v Speaker 2>be all, final word.

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<v Speaker 4>On jell oh No.

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<v Speaker 3>So because in July she said that there was nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to see here, you know, pretty much move on. And

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why she got called out in the press conference, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>so why did you see this bullshit? Now you're pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much giving us this Her thing was, is there suddenly

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<v Speaker 3>new evidence that has come to light? They suddenly that

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<v Speaker 3>they are now reopening a case in that why they

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<v Speaker 3>have decided to release thirty three thousand pieces of information.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you could say, but when I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>into it, they said that there was like at least

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So I've even seen I've seen so many things

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<v Speaker 3>That's but didn't he like to watch something. Wasn't that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was him, And like so I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 4>And so now all of a sudden, that's like back

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<v Speaker 2>I know should have seen like probably ten content creators

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<v Speaker 2>bring that up over the last three days, and it's like, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the same as like bringing up MLK being

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<v Speaker 3>There is a guy that we're gonna bring up. We're

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<v Speaker 3>actually gonna watch his YouTube video. He's fantastic. He breaks

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<v Speaker 3>down all the different information in chronological order of who's

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<v Speaker 3>been mentioned and why, and it's like thirteen minutes long,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's actually does a fantastic job better than I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I would actually explain it all. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>so many parts to this is such an entangled web

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<v Speaker 3>of lies, and you're talking just alone JP mortgage drop that. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, this just the sex graphicking ring is

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<v Speaker 3>I was, there's so much to it, Like when we

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<v Speaker 3>much information as I can as of like today, But

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's one of those scenes that's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>never ending. I feel like a decade from now, we're

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<v Speaker 3>still going to be talking about Jeffrey Epstein and the

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<v Speaker 3>files that are going to be the most elusive thing

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<v Speaker 3>that has ever existed, kind of like you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>moon landing, how it's still being talked about, still being debated.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, he's known to punch people who say

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<v Speaker 4>he never went to the moon. He's the marine.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the old guy. Yeah, oh man. He was just

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<v Speaker 3>you talking about? No, it was the old The ball

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean they're still talking about it, so that

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey Epstein and this whole entanglement and Maxwell's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>rate that it's going like she's it's one of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>And Clinton's going down too good. So that's all over

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<v Speaker 3>the internet. That is like spur headspur of trying to

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<v Speaker 3>take out Hillary so.

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<v Speaker 4>And so wow, that's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein's cellmate, the one who is in question on this

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<v Speaker 2>very episode, is also trying to get a presidential pardon

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<v Speaker 2>for he's in jail right now for brutally murdering four

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<v Speaker 2>people on his land. We're gonna get to all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the mafia ties goes and everything and

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<v Speaker 2>all of these things. That guy who is Jeffrey Epstein's

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<v Speaker 2>last known cellmate who allegedly threatened him weeks prior whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>he is now seeking a presidential parton and he's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to go through RFK Junior to do it. What let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into a good cult members.

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<v Speaker 3>My gosh, we need to get into this and yeave

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<v Speaker 3>ho how the web has been spun and how it

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<v Speaker 3>continues to unravel as we go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you now, brace for impact, not that

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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be anything, be like, oh, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like that. It's more like, wait, what, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a whirlwind pretty much start to finish. But it

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<v Speaker 2>all starts from Clay Tiffany himself, So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>For anybody who would like to see the articles and

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<v Speaker 2>our words talking about it, than what you need to

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<v Speaker 2>do is go to Patreon dot com slash cult to

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<v Speaker 2>Conspiracy podcast. That is the only place to see the

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<v Speaker 2>video of these episodes. When you go there, you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of tiers for entry. You'll see a five

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes our episodes d on Patreon days if not a

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<v Speaker 2>week prior to when they will drop on Spotify and

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<v Speaker 2>Apple Podcasts, and that's an amazing value in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 3>And sometimes like three to five in a row.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sometimes like literally back to back.

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<v Speaker 3>The other day we dropped like what three or four

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<v Speaker 3>right in a row, like boom and boom, So it'd

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<v Speaker 3>be like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you go to that third eye all the

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<v Speaker 2>way open tier, then you will also get to join

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<v Speaker 2>that goes down at nine pm Central Time, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>always a good time. It's unhinged. It's a cult commune,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, and we just we'd be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>all the things in all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a cult fam.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a cult fam.

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely is a cult fam. And I will say

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<v Speaker 3>though that the Cult fam and all the Patreon members

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<v Speaker 3>that we've been reading the messages, y'all have great taste

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<v Speaker 3>of music, and I feel like we should all go

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<v Speaker 3>to a rock concert together. I'm a big concert goer

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<v Speaker 3>and I would love to meet up and go to

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<v Speaker 3>a whole bunch of concerts. I mean, I have friends

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<v Speaker 3>all over the country that I've just made from concerts.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we just talk concerts, We meet up at concerts,

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<v Speaker 3>we go hang out and party at concerts, and then

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<v Speaker 3>that's it. I'll see you again to the next one.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm totally down. So if we have any Cult

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<v Speaker 3>members that want to go hit up some concerts, let's

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<v Speaker 3>me let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of these days we need to do a cult

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<v Speaker 2>member meet up for the hell of it. And why

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<v Speaker 2>not a concert, you know, We've talked about doing it

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<v Speaker 2>at Mardi Gras, but like, I don't know how many.

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<v Speaker 4>Of our cult members are okay with seeing a body.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't seen a body during Marty Gras.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you've seen a body in New Orleans. You may

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<v Speaker 2>have thought it was a homeless dude sleeping. No, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a dead person.

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<v Speaker 3>To be fair, I probably didn't care, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>like recognize. But no, I mean, we have been to

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<v Speaker 3>several parades where they're shootings during the parade, during the

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<v Speaker 3>after party.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying. I don't mind that.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't mind that, but some of our cult members,

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<v Speaker 2>not all, not all, but some might be.

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<v Speaker 4>A little mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And I minded it when of my kids were there.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, I mean, it is what it is. You

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<v Speaker 3>got to definitely, Uh, it's not all parades, but you

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<v Speaker 3>just it's typical when people get in large groups where

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<v Speaker 3>there's lots of alcohol. Just keep your head on a

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<v Speaker 4>But we will make a cult member meet up happen one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of these days, but maybe Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe very possibly.

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<v Speaker 2>But also probably the main reason why you would go

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<v Speaker 2>to Patreon, aside from the cult lives and aside from

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the video evidence and all the things that we

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<v Speaker 2>completely commercial. Flee that's right. Listen, ads suck, commercials suck.

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<v Speaker 2>Come to check us out at Patreon, support the show directly,

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<v Speaker 2>and we appreciate everybody's already gone and done so without

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<v Speaker 2>further ado, let's get into the first article of discussion

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<v Speaker 2>on this very important, very critical episode of the Cult Conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so let's start off with this first article here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is thoughts from the back room, from the back

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<v Speaker 2>of the room rather words matter. This is also the

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<v Speaker 2>title of This is the Greatest Gadfly. That might sound weird,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's gonna make sense here in a moment the legend.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, there is only one personality who stands atop

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<v Speaker 2>the Gadfly Hall of Fame, the late great Clay Tiffany

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<v Speaker 2>and his masterpiece of public access television Dirge for the Charlatans.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. That was his name.

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<v Speaker 3>That is okay, good for him. That is a fro

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<v Speaker 3>man bro.

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<v Speaker 4>Look your boy has not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe I don't think Tiffany is a

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<v Speaker 2>is a Jewish name, but I mean maybe that was

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<v Speaker 2>a stage name. To my knowledge, that was his actual

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<v Speaker 2>legal name. But yeah, he was just got that John

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<v Speaker 2>c Riley hare that that Bob rossfrow going on. And

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see because we have videos of him. As a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, some of his videos are still up

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube to this day, and I'm sure they've been

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<v Speaker 2>you know, modernized in some way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 4>But he he was one of the most just doing

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<v Speaker 4>it for the for the truly, for the love of

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<v Speaker 4>the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Clay Tiffany's unusual appearance and voice were the epitome of

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<v Speaker 2>a smirk, underscored by his signature catchphrase, all right, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll understand, I understand it. Basically, he'd be making

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<v Speaker 2>a point, all right, and so I'm just gonna say this,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we do it this way?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>After everything he said.

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<v Speaker 4>Essentially think of mister Mackie.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he was really what I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, standing tall, his blazing red afro,

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<v Speaker 2>permanently scowling face and wardrobe that always looked cold. From

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<v Speaker 2>the rack labeled nineteen fifties muck racking reporter at the

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<v Speaker 2>local community theater wardrobe closet.

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<v Speaker 4>He was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>The red afro. Oh man, he's a fucking ginger doo

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<v Speaker 3>on top of everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he had the full on ginger frow going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, this guy is just awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he's I love him. I absolutely love it.

429
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<v Speaker 2>And then when we hear about what he was talking

430
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<v Speaker 2>about and the way he wasn't like pulling punches like

431
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<v Speaker 2>you know.

432
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<v Speaker 4>They say some police officer.

433
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<v Speaker 2>So no, he's like, oh, by the way, this guy

434
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<v Speaker 2>John Smith, where's the justice that judge a brum and

435
00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:04.480
<v Speaker 2>this And it's like, oh, oh no, you're just calling

436
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<v Speaker 2>them out.

437
00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.240
<v Speaker 3>He's he's here for all the smoke and then some

438
00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:08.920
<v Speaker 3>oh yes.

439
00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:13.519
<v Speaker 2>So Timfany was relentless. His diatribes were part Perry Mason

440
00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and part Perry White. A punacious fearless led to him

441
00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:22.319
<v Speaker 2>or fearlessness led him into constant verbal, legal, and sadly

442
00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:27.000
<v Speaker 2>violent physical confrontations with elected officials and public servants throughout

443
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<v Speaker 2>the small village of Briarcliff Manor in Westchester County, New York.

444
00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:35.319
<v Speaker 2>So he was also recklessly tough. Clay never let anyone

445
00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:40.200
<v Speaker 2>intimidate him, sometimes to his detriment. Mayor, commissioner, judge clerk,

446
00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:44.119
<v Speaker 2>and police departments all exchanged shots with him. Even the

447
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<v Speaker 2>Westchester County District Attorney and later Fox Spectacle and currently

448
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<v Speaker 2>US Attorney for the District of Columbia, Janine Piro, heard

449
00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:55.039
<v Speaker 2>him loudly, publicly and obnoxiously.

450
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<v Speaker 4>You do you know, Janine Piro?

451
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<v Speaker 3>I actually don't. I'm not gonna lie.

452
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<v Speaker 4>You know what we're gonna I'm gonna show her for

453
00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:02.279
<v Speaker 4>just a second.

454
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<v Speaker 3>I do not know who this is, but.

455
00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:06.759
<v Speaker 2>I promise you will as soon as you see a

456
00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:12.400
<v Speaker 2>picture of her. Oh oh yes, Janine Piro. He took

457
00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:16.000
<v Speaker 2>shots at her, and she acknowledged him enough to fire back.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Not actual, not actual, like gunshots.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Like okay, God, I'm terrible with names people. I know

460
00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:22.680
<v Speaker 3>that a lot of people are gonna like crash out

461
00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:25.359
<v Speaker 3>because I'm terrible with names. I'm not gonna lie. I'm

462
00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm terrible with people that I know, and they tell

463
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<v Speaker 3>me their names and I'm like, what is your name again?

464
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<v Speaker 3>Faces I'll remember forever, so just don't judge me. But

465
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<v Speaker 3>that's the.

466
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, damn.

467
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<v Speaker 2>At the time, that was the Westchester County District Attorney.

468
00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Later she became and actually is of this moment, is

469
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<v Speaker 2>still the US attorney for the District of Columbia.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Man, he had some fucking balls on him.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like the guy left his fucks back in seventy

472
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<v Speaker 2>five where he found that suit, and like.

473
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<v Speaker 3>He's in Afro.

474
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<v Speaker 4>Man, that's it. We're just here. We're doing the most.

475
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<v Speaker 3>I love this guy already.

476
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Janine Pierre heard from him loudly, publicly, and obnoxiously,

477
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<v Speaker 2>and some of those shots.

478
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<v Speaker 4>Were nearly deadly.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Briarcliffe police officer Nick Tartaglioni was often the target of

480
00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Clay's accusations of corruption, civil rights violations, violence, and intimidations,

481
00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:18.599
<v Speaker 2>pretty much anything a novelist or screenwriter might throw into

482
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<v Speaker 2>the mix to create a character of a quote unquote

483
00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:24.640
<v Speaker 2>bad cop. Nick did not like that and allegedly assaulted

484
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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany several times, once beating him nearly to death. This

485
00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:31.920
<v Speaker 2>attack triggered an FBI investigation, a major lawsuit with a

486
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<v Speaker 2>significant settlement in Clay's favor, and Tartaglioni's dismissal from the

487
00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:39.519
<v Speaker 2>police force, a dismissal that was later reversed with Tartaglioni

488
00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.920
<v Speaker 2>being reinstated and receiving back pay.

489
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:46.359
<v Speaker 3>So so the mob got him rehired and and got

490
00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:47.079
<v Speaker 3>back pay for it.

491
00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:50.559
<v Speaker 2>We shouldn't sidestep this. He won the case, he got

492
00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:54.839
<v Speaker 2>awarded two hundred thousand dollars because this guy, this cop

493
00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.279
<v Speaker 2>who like is the epitome of a caricature of a

494
00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 2>bad cop with mob ties. It wasn't like just hypotheticals

495
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:07.519
<v Speaker 2>confirmed this guy was dirty. The FBI investigated him, found

496
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:11.119
<v Speaker 2>it all to be accurate. Clay Tiffany won a settlement

497
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:13.920
<v Speaker 2>over it. Then he gets reinstated as a cop later

498
00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:17.200
<v Speaker 2>on and got back paid for the whole thing. Because again,

499
00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.759
<v Speaker 2>mafia ties are real, and this is a whole This

500
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:21.799
<v Speaker 2>is the whole reason why Clay Tiffany was even talking

501
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:24.759
<v Speaker 2>about him in the first place. So tartag Leoni went

502
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<v Speaker 2>on to bigger and worse headlines, including when we're gonna

503
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<v Speaker 2>get to in a minute. Four bodies found at home

504
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.720
<v Speaker 2>of ex briarcliff Man or cop Nick tartag Leoni's estate.

505
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.559
<v Speaker 3>Four people at his home. He killed four people at

506
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:37.920
<v Speaker 3>his home.

507
00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 4>He buried them on his own land.

508
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh, because that's smart, Like, come on, you're a fucking cop, like,

509
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:43.960
<v Speaker 3>oh no.

510
00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:46.559
<v Speaker 4>It's even worse. One guy he strangled to death with

511
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<v Speaker 4>the zip tie and then made the other three watch.

512
00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Then he made them dig their own graves and then

513
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:54.319
<v Speaker 4>execution style shot them. All. We're gonna get to it all.

514
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:56.079
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna get to it all. Find that out, okay,

515
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:57.440
<v Speaker 4>because they found the bodies.

516
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know what, we'll get to it.

517
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<v Speaker 4>We'll get to him. Amazing.

518
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.759
<v Speaker 2>And then more recently, Epstein told lawyers that sellmate Nicholas

519
00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:10.000
<v Speaker 2>TARTAGLIONI quote unquote roughed him up. So Clay tiffany way

520
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:13.039
<v Speaker 2>back in the day was calling out this guy for

521
00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:16.079
<v Speaker 2>all of this shit. Little did anybody know just how

522
00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:18.799
<v Speaker 2>deep and connected this dude would get. Because keep in mind,

523
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:21.799
<v Speaker 2>the same jail where Jeffrey Epstein was being housed is

524
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<v Speaker 2>the same prison where John Gotti, at one point in time,

525
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:28.519
<v Speaker 2>was being hailed. This was the high profile prison of

526
00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>New York. So to find that this dirty cop with

527
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:35.440
<v Speaker 2>all of these mob ties also was there and happened

528
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:37.759
<v Speaker 2>to be a selly with jeff Epstein.

529
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<v Speaker 3>I wonder how many mobsters were at Ebstein's parties and

530
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:47.160
<v Speaker 3>shit in helping provide girls or kind of last was

531
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:47.759
<v Speaker 3>using them.

532
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like probably not a lot of them. There

533
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:53.559
<v Speaker 2>was probably some, for sure, but mobsters can they're already

534
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a part of the criminal underground. They don't have to

535
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:57.200
<v Speaker 2>go to like a third party to find the shit

536
00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:58.519
<v Speaker 2>they want. They could just go get it.

537
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<v Speaker 3>Well, there is I mean, I wouldn't say it's a

538
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:04.039
<v Speaker 3>theory because there's a lot of evidence supporting it, but

539
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:08.160
<v Speaker 3>there is a lot of conversation about Epstein being one

540
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:12.400
<v Speaker 3>of like the most well known person throughout the world

541
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:16.160
<v Speaker 3>that had connections everywhere that was like the middle person

542
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:20.440
<v Speaker 3>that would have parties or host things to where you know,

543
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:23.599
<v Speaker 3>big the big wigs would be exchanging things in between

544
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 3>themselves and he would be collecting dirt on all of them,

545
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 3>so that way it was an insurance policy. I could

546
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:32.000
<v Speaker 3>see a few I could see a situation as to

547
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.759
<v Speaker 3>why this particular person was put in the cell with

548
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:39.039
<v Speaker 3>Epstein and that he quote unquote roughed him up.

549
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 4>I e.

550
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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you better shut the fuck up or we're gonna

551
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:44.680
<v Speaker 3>kill you vibes. Yeah, I could see that.

552
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:47.920
<v Speaker 2>But I could see the mafia being the ones to

553
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>uh do the dirty deeds of the actual wealthy elites.

554
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Of the world, which is not something that they have

555
00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 2>been newcomers to by any means.

556
00:26:56.839 --> 00:26:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Or maybe one of their kids decided to, you know,

557
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 3>go to a part and there's some evidence and so,

558
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, to protect theirs, it's very possible.

559
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>You got to keep in mind though, the mafia lost

560
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of their footing for lack of better words,

561
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 2>in the late seventies and early eighties when Rico became

562
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.160
<v Speaker 2>a thing. Right, so after the mid eighties to the

563
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>early nineties, a lot of mafia families were forced to

564
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.839
<v Speaker 2>go legitimate, which is why casinos became more and more

565
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Speaker 2>prevalent of a thing, and some of them got involved.

566
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 3>With the Mafria was like as as big as it was, Oh,

567
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.359
<v Speaker 3>you know that it is still heavily present. The underbelly

568
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 3>of the world is dark and ever reaching.

569
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 4>But as far as the Italian mafia, though.

570
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.720
<v Speaker 2>They lost a lot of their power because of Rico,

571
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 2>they still have their criminal elements for sure, of course,

572
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 2>not on paper or anything. A lot of it going

573
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 2>into illegal sports, gambling, extortion, racketeering. A lot of the

574
00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>families have actually gone against the drug narrative al together

575
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>other because they see it as bad for business and

576
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's messy start to finish. And then whenever

577
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you get involved with that, you have to make deals

578
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.480
<v Speaker 2>with the Latina community, you have to deal with the

579
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>black community, you have to deal with all this. And

580
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>like the Italians are super super tight knit, they don't

581
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:14.880
<v Speaker 2>like outsiders.

582
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 4>They will on occasion be okay with a Jew.

583
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's like wild for them, okay, because they're the

584
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 2>ones that do the books.

585
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 4>But and that's not like a thing that's all the

586
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:25.079
<v Speaker 4>way back to.

587
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I'm trying to think of the guy's name who

588
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:35.240
<v Speaker 2>was a Lucky Luciano's homie, uh Meyer Lanski, who was

589
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 2>the accountant for the Five Family Commission and later was

590
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:41.799
<v Speaker 2>the head of the Jewish mafia as well.

591
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 4>But that's this is way way, way, way way way

592
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:45.319
<v Speaker 4>back in the day.

593
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>So whenever Rico came around, a lot of mafia families

594
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 2>had to start going legitimate. But you still had your bruisers,

595
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>you still had your your street guys that would be

596
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.359
<v Speaker 2>doing the things and the stuff the dirt, if you will.

597
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 3>For those that don't know what Rico is, do you

598
00:28:58.359 --> 00:28:59.559
<v Speaker 3>want to explain that really quick?

599
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Nico is I'm trying to remember the actual the acronym

600
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.200
<v Speaker 2>for it. Matter of fact, I'm just google that real

601
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 2>quick RICO case meaning, so basically it is what brought

602
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 2>down organized crime. Okay, So a RICO case involves prosecuting

603
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 2>individuals for participating in an enterprise like a gang, corporation,

604
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>or political group, through a pattern of racketeering activity, committing

605
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>at least two specific crimes like fraud, bribery, or drug

606
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>dealing within ten years. So RICO stands for the Racketeer,

607
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 2>Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act. So basically, it wasn't just

608
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>you're arresting this one guy for dealing drugs or being

609
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 2>a pimp or whatever the case is. If you found

610
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.400
<v Speaker 2>out that he was connected with an affiliate group, a

611
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 2>gang of some types that was more than just a

612
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>couple of street thugs. It actually had a real hierarchy

613
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 2>and rank and file structure to it.

614
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 4>You could throw RICO onto it. And that is what

615
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:55.920
<v Speaker 4>truly brought down the mob.

616
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what's brought down a lot of motorcycle clubs, that's

617
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 2>what brought down a lot of different family organized crime

618
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 2>groups in America anyway. So RICO pretty much killed the

619
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>mafia in the United States.

620
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:09.880
<v Speaker 4>The glory days for the.

621
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Mafia, you would argue would be the forties, fifties, sixties,

622
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 2>and you could argue the seventies, but at that point,

623
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go into a hole mafia spin

624
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>on this. But in the seventies they basically closed the books,

625
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:24.599
<v Speaker 2>meaning that they were not taking any more members to

626
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 2>become what's called made men or like official members of

627
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>these families. They closed the books and the only way

628
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>that you could get inducted into it was if an

629
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>older guy died and they needed to fill the position

630
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Speaker 2>it was. There's a lot of there's a lot of

631
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>nuances to all of this, but that's not what this

632
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>episode's about. My point is, though Clay Tiffany was absolutely

633
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 2>calling these things out way back, got confirmed that it

634
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 2>was all correct, and then somehow this guy still ended

635
00:30:54.160 --> 00:31:00.200
<v Speaker 2>up going and committing some Hanus acts, becoming Jeffrey Epstein's selly. Yeah,

636
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 2>le's just dive into it more here. So, Clay Tiffany

637
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 2>passed away in March of twenty fifteen. Concerned neighbors notified

638
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>police when they hadn't seen him for a few weeks.

639
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<v Speaker 4>He had no known family.

640
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 2>His vast archive of videotapes of Dirge for Charlatan's remains unavailable, however,

641
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and effort is underway to convert them to digital and

642
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.759
<v Speaker 2>produce a documentary on the life of the most fantastic

643
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>citizen journalist community Gadfly.

644
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.160
<v Speaker 4>Few people ever saw. I hope to see it completed

645
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 4>and shared.

646
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is like some of his archives, just VHS

647
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 2>tapes of his his show man.

648
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<v Speaker 4>It's incredible.

649
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany told the truth as he saw it. Even crazy

650
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 2>people can be right sometimes. But Tiffany's problem was that

651
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.920
<v Speaker 2>it all got lost in the paranoid noise.

652
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.880
<v Speaker 3>So since be very paranoia, like you have paranoia pretty bad.

653
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, whenever you call out cops and then

654
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.559
<v Speaker 2>they come knock on your door and beat the fuck

655
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>out of you multiple times, I could understand you checking

656
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 2>over your shoulder as you like, oh yeah, you know.

657
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>It's not like he was saying, like the helicopters are

658
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.079
<v Speaker 2>flying again. To my knowledge, he wasn't like an avid

659
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 2>rug user or anything. But you pissed in the wrong

660
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 2>cheerios multiple times and then didn't stop whenever they were

661
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.480
<v Speaker 2>trying to send you a message. You should keep your

662
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, keep your wits about you, I get it.

663
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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>The the author rather says, interesting.

665
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Since I first posted this piece, I have been contacted

666
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<v Speaker 2>by multiple documentary filmmakers and investigative journalists interested in Clay

667
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany's story. These inquiries have raised some interesting questions. How

668
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>did Clay Tiffany really die?

669
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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was wondering.

670
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.799
<v Speaker 4>He was just found dead in his home. No one knows,

671
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 4>no knew.

672
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Autopsy was done.

673
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 2>After two weeks. It was very hard to get an

674
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>autopsy done. They say that he may have been dead

675
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 2>in his home for two weeks. Four people realize the smell.

676
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:50.279
<v Speaker 3>But that's not the case. There's bodies that disintegrate. It

677
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:54.240
<v Speaker 3>had like halfway and they're chewed up bodies. And no,

678
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 3>that's people that steady bone, steady bones all the way

679
00:32:58.119 --> 00:32:58.680
<v Speaker 3>back like that.

680
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Okay, we're gonna learn more. We're gonna learn more. I

681
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 4>don't want to give too too much away here. Maybe

682
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 4>that's just gonna be one of those mysteries that never

683
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 4>gets solved.

684
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Who knows or they killed him in just you know,

685
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 3>that's whatever.

686
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, Because keep in mind, if the mafia was involved

687
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>with the FBI operation and the local police officers, what's

688
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 2>to say that the mafia wasn't involved with the corner

689
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>right or the doctor performing the autopsy.

690
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, obviously they are if they have their hand and

691
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 3>everything they're going to. You know, he must have really

692
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 3>pissed off some people good enough, and maybe he was

693
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 3>getting closer to some kind of truth while he was

694
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.480
<v Speaker 3>doing all of this digging, so I personally believe so.

695
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 4>So then how did he really die?

696
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 2>What other clay investigations touched deeper into the political and

697
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>business worlds of Westchester County and beyond. A rewatching of

698
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.400
<v Speaker 2>another of his dirs for Charlatan's broadcast reveals a host

699
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 2>of names around the forty minute mark who are now

700
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>in very public national positions. So what happened all of

701
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Clay's tapes, recordings, his files, his connections. Just how many

702
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 2>nerves did he get on during his escapades? And where

703
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>are the dirs for Charlatan's tapes? Will they ever reappear?

704
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Klay Tiffany, our investigative reporter and world

705
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 2>class gadfly, would let these questions go unexamined. All right anyway,

706
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>So let's get into this little video clip here. This

707
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:23.039
<v Speaker 2>is from himself, thedors for Charlatan's Show, episode fifty three,

708
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 2>as a matter of fact, where he goes in on

709
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 2>the situation at hand and y'all tell me what you

710
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.079
<v Speaker 2>think about this. He doesn't exactly pull punches. It's insane

711
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.360
<v Speaker 2>to see how prophetic these words actually became, because if

712
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not mistaken, this is right after his first beating.

713
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 4>But we'll see. Let's go in here.

714
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 5>By the way, congratulations, I'm being facetious to the state

715
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 5>legislature for all the nincompoopery that they committed in the

716
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.320
<v Speaker 5>last few weeks, including the fact that they've taken away

717
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.880
<v Speaker 5>the power from the New York City Police Chief to

718
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 5>go after bad cops, and they've left it to a commission,

719
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 5>making it much harder to have anything done. Okay, Jack

720
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 5>Henry Abbott. Men with low intelligence did not become enraged

721
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 5>over injustice. They question nothing and accept everything said and

722
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 5>done to them. Men with low intelligence do not become

723
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 5>enraged over injustice. They question nothing and accept everything said

724
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:32.960
<v Speaker 5>and done to them.

725
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm gonna let it keep playing for just

726
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 2>a minute, but I wanted everybody to hear at least

727
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>that clip where you can tell he's not some sort

728
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 2>of a and on this evening's edition. It's a he's

729
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.519
<v Speaker 2>not like a news anchor, you know, he's he's not

730
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>exactly a podcaster either. He's he's just he's from New York,

731
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 2>so he's got a New York accident.

732
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.880
<v Speaker 3>But the way that his speech pattern and some of

733
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 3>what he's saying, I'm not kidding you. I've heard that

734
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 3>before in some of Trump's speeches.

735
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 4>Interesting, Leah, you listen.

736
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 3>To it, if you the start of it, I'm telling you,

737
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 3>like he Trump has actually said that in the way

738
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 3>that he's in the same speech pattern. It sounds just

739
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>like Trump.

740
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 2>And also like the picture didn't really do him justice.

741
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Listening to him. His whole fro perfectly quafft, I might add, it.

742
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:22.599
<v Speaker 3>Is very round for those that are not looking it is.

743
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 3>It is very thick, luscious quoft of a round hedgehog fro.

744
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 2>And I mean he's got that permanent scowl, his high

745
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 2>just dishoveled look.

746
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he definitely looked like he like threw his clothes

747
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 3>on that are too big for him, that don't really

748
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 3>kind of fit, like he kind of just is over

749
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 3>life and just you know what, this is some shit here.

750
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 3>It is that's the vibe I'm getting from him right now.

751
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 2>And instead of taking to the radio, instead of becoming

752
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 2>a you know, an article h writer for the newspaper. No,

753
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 2>he's like, fuck it, I'm just gonna put it on

754
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.679
<v Speaker 2>public access television and let the chips fall where it may.

755
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.400
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, at least he was calling people out.

756
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Fuck it.

757
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 2>This next is where he gets into the conversation of

758
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Clay Tartaglione, let's learn together get cult members?

759
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 5>Oh why is Nick Tartaglione rogue Briar Cliff coup? According

760
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 5>to my sources, and you'd be surprised where they pop

761
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.559
<v Speaker 5>up everywhere I go. Somebody's got something to tell me.

762
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 5>And I appreciate all of you people that are coming

763
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 5>up to me from Hastings to all the way up

764
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 5>into the middle of Connecticut now telling me tales. All right?

765
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 5>Could it be that Pete police officer Nicky Nasty Tartaglione

766
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 5>is attempting get this folks to get back on the

767
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 5>Mount Vernon police force.

768
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:57.199
<v Speaker 4>That's where he started.

769
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 5>Remember, he went from Mount Vernon to Yonkers and according

770
00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 5>to a police source, he had to leave Yonkers because

771
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:05.840
<v Speaker 5>of illegal activity involving him and his family. Then he

772
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 5>went up to Palling and of course Briarcliffe hired him four.

773
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Also, we're gonna mention another member of his family who

774
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 2>confirmed was a coppo for the Banano crime family.

775
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 4>So that's not even like a crazy thing.

776
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 2>He just said, no, no, no, This guy had actual blood

777
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 2>ties to a street captain of a known mafia family

778
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 2>who later turned snitch.

779
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 4>We're going to talk about it more in a bit here.

780
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 4>Let's go.

781
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.079
<v Speaker 5>My place is in about four and a half years,

782
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:40.239
<v Speaker 5>has Nikki tartag Leone been told by putative police chief

783
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 5>Ron Trainam and or other Briarcliffe village personnel such as

784
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 5>Lynn maccrum or mayor Austin to get out as soon

785
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 5>as possible because eventually the public awareness of all of

786
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:58.119
<v Speaker 5>Nick's misconduct, revealed by your investigative reporter En Durs for

787
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.800
<v Speaker 5>the Charlatan shows will become too much, even for Briarcliffe,

788
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 5>which never charged Ron Langer. Remember, even Briarcliffe won't be

789
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:11.480
<v Speaker 5>able to cover it up. Remember, Nick Tartaglion stands accused

790
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:15.800
<v Speaker 5>of harassing and worse of a twenty six year old

791
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.920
<v Speaker 5>woman at the scene of an accident, of coercing her

792
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.639
<v Speaker 5>through unethical means to give her her phone number under

793
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.199
<v Speaker 5>duress and then harassing her, her mother, her stepfather on

794
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 5>the phone for months, and then Detective pug Lease very

795
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 5>possibly filed a false report on this. If Trustee Peter

796
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 5>Burrow is to be believed said false report by Detective

797
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:46.840
<v Speaker 5>pug Lease exonerates according to Peter Burrow's description of it,

798
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 5>this report exonerates the miscreant Tartaglione.

799
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:53.840
<v Speaker 6>Mayor Keith Austen.

800
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:59.159
<v Speaker 5>Of course, continues to cover this up. Nick Tartaglione also

801
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 5>threatened me, sent me to the hospital, and told me

802
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 5>he is connected to the mob. On three twenty five,

803
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:09.840
<v Speaker 5>ninety seven, Nick Tartaglione stalked me with a witness witnessing this.

804
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 5>On May seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven, yet at the behest

805
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:18.840
<v Speaker 5>of a D eight Lynn Ferrell putative, Judge Fred Weinstein

806
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.880
<v Speaker 5>issued an order of protection against me in regard to

807
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:28.800
<v Speaker 5>this rogue cop Nick Tartaglione. Anyway, Nicky Boy told the

808
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 5>young woman at the scene of the accident that the

809
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 5>reason that he left Mount Vernon in Yonker's police departments

810
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 5>was because there was too much crime and it was

811
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:47.400
<v Speaker 5>too dangerous. Poor baby. Could it be that in Yonkers

812
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 5>in Mount Vernon there are too many blacks and Latinos

813
00:40:53.119 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 5>who emasculated NICKI even though he had the gun. From

814
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:06.800
<v Speaker 5>an eyewitness from an eyewitness. How about the following in

815
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 5>regard to the textbook psyche of rogue cop Nick Tartaglion. Apparently, Nick,

816
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 5>according to the source, and some other reprobate cops, were

817
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 5>flashing this is a while back. They're police badges to

818
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 5>get freebies at a notorious strip joint in New York

819
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 5>City in Queens. I believe the name of the place

820
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 5>is Goldfingers or some such. Even though they were from Westchester.

821
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 5>They're flashing their badges or doing it metaphorically. But even

822
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:53.719
<v Speaker 5>in this less than wholesome I should say environment. According

823
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 5>to my source, Nick Tartaglion and his other debouched cops

824
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.639
<v Speaker 5>who were on the take overdid it and made such

825
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:09.079
<v Speaker 5>ludicrous demands and behaved so abominably that the extortionate, venal

826
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 5>iniquitous cops were giving the bum's rush from the strip joint.

827
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 5>They were asking for too much lap dancing and stuff

828
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 5>like that. I wonder if Nick has flashed his Briarcliffe

829
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:29.679
<v Speaker 5>police badge to get into other strip joints.

830
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Aren't you proud of that?

831
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.519
<v Speaker 5>People in Briarcliffe.

832
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 4>You don't know where what that badge has touched.

833
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 5>Possibly, So when Nicky finally leaves, I would hope that

834
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.159
<v Speaker 5>they clean and excume all all the stuff that he

835
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.559
<v Speaker 5>wore and his badge and everything.

836
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so your boy is just out here calling him

837
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 2>out by name.

838
00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he's He's calling him out for everything.

839
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.239
<v Speaker 2>And not just him, his known affiliates, the judges that

840
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>are involved in this, other detectives, other cops. I mean,

841
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 2>he's out here doing the absolute most, you know, and

842
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 2>and god bless, I mean, I completely understand that, to

843
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.199
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, he's over it. And he had

844
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 2>already gotten beat up by him once before he even

845
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 2>made that post that video, So yeah, and we heard

846
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>it straight from him. This guy is an absolute piece

847
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 2>of shit start to finish. And just like the article

848
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 2>we read a moment ago, he is a caricature of

849
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:38.679
<v Speaker 2>what a novelist would write about in a book, where

850
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:40.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like, this is the bad cop. What does he

851
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 2>look like, what does he sound like? What does he

852
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 2>act like? Who's his affiliations? This is literally the guy.

853
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:49.239
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, that's can.

854
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 3>Believe you called him out like that. He's just like,

855
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 3>you know what, fuck you fuck this.

856
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.599
<v Speaker 4>And at Goldfingers, that's a very well known strip club.

857
00:43:56.639 --> 00:44:00.360
<v Speaker 3>That is a very well known strip club. I'm surprised that,

858
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, he just really didn't care. I guess of

859
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.119
<v Speaker 3>what would happen to him, especially since the mob ties.

860
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, they didn't have the same kind of strength,

861
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 3>but they still got to him.

862
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 2>They did, they eventually did, but again that was after

863
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the first beating.

864
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who told them, like, who who told who?

865
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I wonder like the public access, I'm just wondering that

866
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 3>not a lot of people probably watched it, so I

867
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.679
<v Speaker 3>wonder how they found out. Specifically, if he was producing

868
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.800
<v Speaker 3>that many tapes, he must have called him out on

869
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:37.960
<v Speaker 3>like damn near every single one to be like, you

870
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 3>are doing this.

871
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 2>He had he had a bit of an obsession with him,

872
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.440
<v Speaker 2>not just him, though there was judge he called out.

873
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 2>We talked about Jane Piro. He called her out like.

874
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:52.239
<v Speaker 3>It was heard that she was really shady back in

875
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:52.599
<v Speaker 3>the day.

876
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.639
<v Speaker 2>She you know, I don't know that for a fact,

877
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:59.079
<v Speaker 2>but our boy Clay Tiffany absolutely had some dirt on

878
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>her at one point, and you know how that goes.

879
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Next thing, you know, Trump's in office and this former

880
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>New York attorney is now the attorney for the DC

881
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:14.199
<v Speaker 2>because yep, hmmm, crazy how that works out.

882
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Yep. Anyway, it's all about who you know, who's back

883
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:18.280
<v Speaker 3>you scratch.

884
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. And again he's talking about nineteen ninety seven. Yeah,

885
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 2>they had a restraining order put against Nick for him.

886
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a long time ago for this to all kind

887
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:29.400
<v Speaker 3>of make it circle back to Epstein.

888
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:33.320
<v Speaker 2>So m yep, it absolutely does. But let's get into

889
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the next article here, good cult members. Now we are

890
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna shift over to another article where there's actually the

891
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:46.159
<v Speaker 2>original documents for the uh, what's the word I'm going

892
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 2>for restraining orders that were being put on Nick Tartaglione. Tartaglioni,

893
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 2>however you want to pronounce it on behalf of Clay Tiffany.

894
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen one

895
00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.519
<v Speaker 2>mon another again and let's learn about this together, good

896
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:04.559
<v Speaker 2>cult members. All right, So this is from Johanna Schwartz

897
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.880
<v Speaker 2>dot net slash Clay Tiffany. Let's get into it here.

898
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 2>In the village of Briarcliffe, Manor, a tony suburb outside

899
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.960
<v Speaker 2>of New York City. Everybody knew Clay Tiffany growing up

900
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:17.679
<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen sixties. Tiffany was a Briarcliffe Manor High

901
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 2>School basketball legend. His name is still etched on a

902
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.480
<v Speaker 2>plaque in the trophy case that commemorates the school's thousand

903
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:28.480
<v Speaker 2>point scores wow by the time. By the time I

904
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 2>met Tiffany in two thousand and two, he was in

905
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:33.719
<v Speaker 2>his fifties and Briarcliffe Manor residents knew him as the

906
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:37.559
<v Speaker 2>village gadfly over the six feet or over six feet tall,

907
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 2>white and with an unruly crown of red curly hair.

908
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Clay Tiffany spent his days as a self proclaimed independent journalist,

909
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:48.960
<v Speaker 2>uncovering local practices he considered unfair or unlawful and complaining

910
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.280
<v Speaker 2>about them to local officials and at village council meetings.

911
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay Tiffany also shared the fruits of his investigative labor

912
00:46:56.360 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>on his remarkably named public access television show for the Charlatans.

913
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 2>On a March afternoon in nineteen ninety seven, Tiffany was

914
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:06.760
<v Speaker 2>pulled over by a Briarcliff man Or police officer he

915
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:11.239
<v Speaker 2>did not recognize the officer. Nick Tartaglione, had recently been

916
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:14.760
<v Speaker 2>hired by the department. With bulging muscles in a deep tan,

917
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione stuck out as much as Tiffany did in a

918
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:23.039
<v Speaker 2>briarcliff manner. According to Tiffany, Tartaglione approached his car and

919
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 2>said through the open window that he heard Tiffany liked

920
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Mulliana's or Mulliana's, Mulinya's whatever, it's a derogatory Italian slang

921
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:37.159
<v Speaker 2>for black people, and then said I'm connected with the mob.

922
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.639
<v Speaker 2>I can have you taken care of any time I want.

923
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Feeling threatens, Tiffany got out of the car and, standing

924
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 2>several feet away, said that he was afraid of Tartaglione

925
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 2>and was going to flag down the next car he

926
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 2>saw and give the driver the name of a friend

927
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 2>a call. When Tiffany got a car to stop and

928
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 2>started speaking with the driver, officer Tartaglione grabbed Tiffany and

929
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 2>slammed him into the police.

930
00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Car and handcuffed him.

931
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany quickly turned his investigative attentions to Tartaglione, and it

932
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>turned out there was a lot to investigate. Tiffany learned

933
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 2>that Tartaglione had beaten up people while employed as an

934
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.079
<v Speaker 2>officer in neighboring jurisdictions and had left those jobs under

935
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:16.400
<v Speaker 2>suspicious circumstances. Tiffany then started reporting what he found out

936
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 2>about Tartaglione on Dirge of the Charlatans or Dirge for

937
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the Charlatans rather that apparently got under Tartaglione's skin. Over

938
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:27.119
<v Speaker 2>the next two and a half years, Officer Tartaglione assaulted

939
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany three more times, the assaults growing more extreme with

940
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 2>every encounter. The final time, Tartaglione maced Tiffany and punched

941
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and kicked him, yelling you can't tell lies about me

942
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 2>on your television show. Officer Tartaglione broke Tiffany's orbital bone

943
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.599
<v Speaker 2>and several ribs, landing him in the hospital. We actually

944
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:48.559
<v Speaker 2>have a video clip of that that we're gonna show

945
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>here in a bit. Tiffany sued Tartaglione and the village

946
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 2>of Briarcliff Manor. During litigation, Tartaglione offered to settle the

947
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:59.320
<v Speaker 2>claims against him for two hundred thousand dollars Soon thereafter,

948
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.039
<v Speaker 2>he wrote a letter to the Defense Council explaining that

949
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany wanted to know where the money was coming from

950
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione himself or the village.

951
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:08.840
<v Speaker 4>I assumed the.

952
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Money was coming from Tartaglione. The village had fired Tartaglione

953
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.280
<v Speaker 2>and was arguing during litigation that his assaults of Tiffany

954
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.199
<v Speaker 2>were outside the scope of his employment. But in the end,

955
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.760
<v Speaker 2>after Tiffany had accepted the money, Briarcliffe Manner revealed that

956
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:23.760
<v Speaker 2>its insurer had written the check.

957
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:25.480
<v Speaker 4>And I was shocked.

958
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Why would Briarcliffe Manners Ensure pay six figures to settle

959
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 2>a case against an officer that they had fired? Why

960
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.239
<v Speaker 2>would Briarcliffe Manners Ensure paid to settle a case against

961
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:38.239
<v Speaker 2>an officer they argued was acting outside of the scope

962
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:42.800
<v Speaker 2>of their employment. Chapter ten of Shielded Helps explained why.

963
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 2>So now on screen, this is a twenty five long

964
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:49.840
<v Speaker 2>page document about the situation, which we're not going to

965
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 2>read the entire thing, but the introduction to this I

966
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:56.360
<v Speaker 2>also think is pretty substantial. So this is from the

967
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:01.880
<v Speaker 2>fourth amended court complaint Jury demand Clayton Tiffany or Tiffany

968
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Clayton I guess m this action arises from vicious, cruel

969
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 2>and continuous acts of police brutality and the conspiracy to

970
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:13.000
<v Speaker 2>cover them up. This action for monies damage against the

971
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Village of Briarcliffe Keith Austin individually as Mayor of the

972
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Village of Briarcliffe Manor, and the Police Department of Briarcliffe Manor, Tartaglione,

973
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Ronald Tranham, Lawrence Adamittus, and Michael Bassett individuals and as

974
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 2>officers of the Village of Briarcliffe Manor's Police Department. Committee

975
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.159
<v Speaker 2>acts under the color of law, acting within the course

976
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and scope of their employment, and deriving plaintiff or depriving

977
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 2>plaintiff of rights secured by the Constitution and laws of

978
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 2>the United States and the State of New York. Long

979
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:50.119
<v Speaker 2>story short, There's a twenty five page court document that

980
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:52.239
<v Speaker 2>basically talks about all of the complaints that were being

981
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.400
<v Speaker 2>levied against them, and there's even dates and times on

982
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 2>all these things. On or about September third, nineteen ninety nine,

983
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.199
<v Speaker 2>on the motion of District Attorney of Westchester County, the

984
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:06.119
<v Speaker 2>aforesaid false charge was dismissed by the City of Yonkers

985
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Court defendant tartag Leone's conduct in bringing the f foresaid

986
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.360
<v Speaker 2>charges against plaintiff constituted a malicious prosecution.

987
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 4>It goes on, it goes.

988
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.039
<v Speaker 2>On and on and on and on and on, twenty

989
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.440
<v Speaker 2>five pages of just everything that could be brought on

990
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 2>for this.

991
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.960
<v Speaker 3>So why did they pay out the settlement? That's a

992
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 3>great question he never actually got answered. Why they decided

993
00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:28.639
<v Speaker 3>to pay out for a cop that no longer was there,

994
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 3>for a cop.

995
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:35.639
<v Speaker 2>That they acknowledged was outside of his jurisdiction, And like,

996
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't you first of all, why wouldn't you just

997
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:40.000
<v Speaker 2>charge the guy himself if he was in the wrong,

998
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 2>he was the one that committed a crime.

999
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:43.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, usually that's how that goes.

1000
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:48.559
<v Speaker 2>Why would the city itself, their insurance pay for.

1001
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.480
<v Speaker 3>That unless it's bought and paid for and he was

1002
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:52.559
<v Speaker 3>highly protected.

1003
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 4>So yes, yes, absolutely, which by his own emission, he

1004
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 4>was mob connected.

1005
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 3>So there you have it, Like who announces that the

1006
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:04.280
<v Speaker 3>first thing you say, I am with the mob? It's like, wait, what, well,

1007
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:05.880
<v Speaker 3>first rule fight club bro.

1008
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:08.400
<v Speaker 4>And he also is going after this guy who he

1009
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:10.840
<v Speaker 4>knows has a television show.

1010
00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean he must have. He must have been sent there,

1011
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:18.280
<v Speaker 3>like strategically sent there. Yeah, so that way he could

1012
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 3>shut this one random guy up in this little podunk town.

1013
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I guess.

1014
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I guess so Emory Celly Cuddy brickin' off and a baby.

1015
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, Uh, this is a letter to MJ. Reset.

1016
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:39.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Magistrate Judge Lisa Margaret Smith, United States Courthouse

1017
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:43.199
<v Speaker 2>for the Southern District of New York. Dear Magistrate Judge Smith,

1018
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:46.199
<v Speaker 2>as this court is aware, Clay Tiffany accepted a two

1019
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand and one dollar rule sixty eight offered by

1020
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.599
<v Speaker 2>defendant Nicholas tartag Leone on June twenty four, two thousand

1021
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 2>and three. At the time Tiffany accepted the rule sixty

1022
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 2>eight offer, it was the plaintiff's council expedition that Tartaglione

1023
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:03.159
<v Speaker 2>would pay Tiffany out of approximately the three hundred thousand

1024
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:04.159
<v Speaker 2>in back pay.

1025
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 4>He was owed to the village of Briarcliffe, manor.

1026
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 3>What is the village? They keep talking, You keep saying

1027
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 3>the village.

1028
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Just so it's speaking no, no, not a.

1029
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 3>County, it's like a city, Okay. So because it keeps

1030
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:19.760
<v Speaker 3>saying the village, I'm like, what the fuck is the village.

1031
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.760
<v Speaker 2>So Briarcliffe Manor is not. It's not a subdivision, and

1032
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:25.239
<v Speaker 2>it's not.

1033
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:27.400
<v Speaker 3>A is it like the village in Florida?

1034
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Okay, there you go, So that's a village, it's not.

1035
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so it's.

1036
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Not its own independent city. But it's a lot more

1037
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.960
<v Speaker 2>than just a neighborhood a town. It's smaller than a town.

1038
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's smaller than a town, but it's at

1039
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:40.719
<v Speaker 3>least somewhat like a town.

1040
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:42.960
<v Speaker 4>It's its own municipality legally speaking.

1041
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, well that makes more sense. But man,

1042
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:49.800
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about that's tiny of a place, and this

1043
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 3>you'd warranted that much attention from these people.

1044
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And then the cop himself got back paid three hundred k,

1045
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and then the city itself paid out your boy, Tiffany

1046
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 2>two hundred k. So the city is now out five

1047
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:05.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred k for a rogue cop beating the shit out

1048
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 2>of a.

1049
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Guy, a random citizen. So you know, it's definitely in

1050
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 3>the entire town, I guess is bought and paid for.

1051
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, basically, sayway, there's a three page document. If anybody

1052
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.639
<v Speaker 2>wants to look at it themselves, you definitely can. I'm

1053
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:24.320
<v Speaker 2>not the best at reading legal documents and things, but

1054
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I also thought that this was very much worth our

1055
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:28.119
<v Speaker 2>time and energy.

1056
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Two.

1057
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 3>By the way, that picture is so horrible of him.

1058
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's like an artist rendition, but a very bad one.

1059
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 3>It's so bad. He looks crazy like, he looks disheveled,

1060
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 3>he looks like he's mentally ill. And I wonder if

1061
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.960
<v Speaker 3>that's the point of that whole thing, is to make

1062
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:50.599
<v Speaker 3>him look like this. Oh, okay, more so than he did.

1063
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.880
<v Speaker 4>But that was the point. He knew what he looked like,

1064
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.360
<v Speaker 4>and he was completely, very much.

1065
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Had myself there. He was completely aware of what he

1066
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.000
<v Speaker 2>looked like. But this guy looks a whole lot more

1067
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 2>like this guy okay than that first video. Yeah, I

1068
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.440
<v Speaker 2>will say that his fro has been trimmed down a

1069
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.039
<v Speaker 2>bit in this one.

1070
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:13.559
<v Speaker 4>But you know what, let's hear Clay talk more about this.

1071
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Clay Tiffany talks about the X COP Nicholas tartek Leone

1072
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:19.679
<v Speaker 2>and Linda Manjano connection.

1073
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Here's the thing. In this video, he actually.

1074
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Confronts him outside and there's witnesses including his father and

1075
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 2>his lawyer and media. There's an actual news anchor who

1076
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 2>refuses to listen to the guy who just went to

1077
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:37.960
<v Speaker 2>court against this dude.

1078
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Wow, Okay, it's mind blowing.

1079
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Cult members. If you're not watching this on Patreon, first

1080
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.000
<v Speaker 2>of all, what are you doing? Come check us on

1081
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Patreon so you can see what we're talking about here. Secondly,

1082
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:52.679
<v Speaker 2>let's watch this together because it's blatant corruption start to finish,

1083
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.079
<v Speaker 2>especially when you know that this is an alleged reputable

1084
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:59.679
<v Speaker 2>reporter for the news who refuses to listen to Clay

1085
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Tip knowing what just took place at the court case.

1086
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:04.800
<v Speaker 4>It's it's wild.

1087
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:11.639
<v Speaker 7>Check this out, Mangano or Bill Reynolds. It's incredible. She's

1088
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 7>bragged about following Linda, about following Bill Reynolds and harassing him.

1089
00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 7>So when Linda Mangano said regarding Sergeant green And he

1090
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 7>should drop dead, I once again say, Sergeant green And

1091
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.920
<v Speaker 7>should pay close attention. Now let's go back to what

1092
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.960
<v Speaker 7>I look like after Nick tartagli On, whom Linda Mangano

1093
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.800
<v Speaker 7>has on at least two occasions now asked the Austin

1094
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:40.800
<v Speaker 7>Village Board to get to give Nick Tartaglion a humanitarian award.

1095
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:43.280
<v Speaker 7>Can my man in the other room put up the

1096
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:47.239
<v Speaker 7>video where the same video that you had on before

1097
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:50.119
<v Speaker 7>I had it stopped, and can you put on my

1098
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.920
<v Speaker 7>man in the other room. The video of what I

1099
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.800
<v Speaker 7>look like after the Nick tar tagleone beat me up

1100
00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 7>the fourth time? All right, see that?

1101
00:56:57.840 --> 00:56:58.239
<v Speaker 1>See that?

1102
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:00.480
<v Speaker 4>This is the guy.

1103
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 2>This is Clayton Tiffany or clay Tiffany after the first time.

1104
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, allegedly second who even knows honestly, but

1105
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:09.360
<v Speaker 2>like he.

1106
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 3>Looks so bad, like he got the shit beat out

1107
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 3>of him.

1108
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 2>And this woman is still saying that Nick Tartaglione deserves

1109
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:19.639
<v Speaker 2>a humanitarian award from the city.

1110
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:22.719
<v Speaker 4>What I keep mind, this guy committed no crime.

1111
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 3>He has His face is so swollen. Cult members that

1112
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:29.320
<v Speaker 3>aren't looking. His face is so completely swollen it's distorted.

1113
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:34.800
<v Speaker 3>His lips are completely stolen, stolen, swollen. Yeah, his teeth

1114
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:37.360
<v Speaker 3>looks like they got broke. His nose looks like it

1115
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.920
<v Speaker 3>got broke. His eyes are his one is swollen shut,

1116
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:42.440
<v Speaker 3>the other one's barely open as well. I mean it's

1117
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:44.760
<v Speaker 3>overall facial trauma to the max.

1118
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 4>This is when he had the broken orbital bone and

1119
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:48.400
<v Speaker 4>several broken ribs.

1120
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he definitely got the shit rocked out of him.

1121
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.519
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and when you see a picture of this

1122
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 4>guy here in a bit.

1123
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:58.360
<v Speaker 2>He looks like he wanted to be a body like

1124
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 2>an actual competition by builder like this, he hitn't like

1125
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 2>some overweight donut munch and coffee.

1126
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:08.079
<v Speaker 3>He's taking that trend. Oh yes, no, no no, this life

1127
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:10.199
<v Speaker 3>is just definitely all about it.

1128
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 2>This is in the nineties, you know what I'm saying.

1129
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:14.159
<v Speaker 2>This is back when like Mark McGuire was on that ship.

1130
00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:16.519
<v Speaker 2>This is that like horse tranquilizer shit they were on

1131
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:17.159
<v Speaker 2>back in the day.

1132
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Last year.

1133
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Speaker 4>Makes you go crazy crazy, So let's keep going here.

1134
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.639
<v Speaker 7>And I have pictures taken by the FBI that are worse.

1135
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:29.400
<v Speaker 2>All right, So this is him confronting him outside of

1136
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the Mayor's office.

1137
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:36.320
<v Speaker 5>Are there any other reporters besides twelve?

1138
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:41.440
<v Speaker 4>Are you a reporter? Which paper are you?

1139
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Stacy?

1140
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

1141
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:46.559
<v Speaker 5>Hi, bagle own. And that's what gets back because the

1142
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 5>last time he almost killed me.

1143
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:53.159
<v Speaker 3>I love how he just walks up to him.

1144
00:58:54.280 --> 00:59:00.320
<v Speaker 4>He died me.

1145
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh you exciting? Oh they purposely, Oh.

1146
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is the guy, and he's not stepping out

1147
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 2>for obvious reasons. And you see they're all laughing at Clay,

1148
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 2>the guy who just got the ship beat out of him.

1149
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Sent to the hospital.

1150
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they don't give a fuck.

1151
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:20.519
<v Speaker 5>They're a reporter here with the camera guy from twelve,

1152
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 5>Why you might want to talk to the guy that's

1153
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:27.679
<v Speaker 5>attacking me on almost killed twice?

1154
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 7>That's me.

1155
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:31.199
<v Speaker 5>I can't give you some allegation though, I can't go

1156
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:35.840
<v Speaker 5>do you mean purely my allegations? It's enough to have

1157
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:37.840
<v Speaker 5>the FBI investigating them.

1158
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I can't talk to you.

1159
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:40.599
<v Speaker 5>You can't talk to me.

1160
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh right now, you're willing the camera.

1161
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:44.280
<v Speaker 6>I don't know you're gonna use all.

1162
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:44.719
<v Speaker 3>That against me.

1163
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:48.960
<v Speaker 5>You got your camera on me, pal, I'm not afraid

1164
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:51.960
<v Speaker 5>of people camera and me taping me. You want me

1165
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 5>to turn off the camera?

1166
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:53.880
<v Speaker 4>I was that what you mean?

1167
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.679
<v Speaker 3>So even the reporter who is there to get the end,

1168
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:05.239
<v Speaker 3>just like totally unfazed. Homies with them, obviously Italian, obviously

1169
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:06.119
<v Speaker 3>their buddy.

1170
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, And he's like, I can't talk to you. That's

1171
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:11.400
<v Speaker 2>just your allegation. Like allegation, bro, I just got out

1172
01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:14.239
<v Speaker 2>of the hospital. The investigating this guy. Are you fucking

1173
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 2>kidding me?

1174
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

1175
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And so he's just like, I don't tell you, man, whatever.

1176
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 4>It just it gets worse think about it.

1177
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.119
<v Speaker 5>Briar Cliff is just didn't put him up on charges

1178
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:32.239
<v Speaker 5>for assaulting and trying to kill me twice, plus he

1179
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:36.480
<v Speaker 5>beat me up two other times. And and there's about

1180
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:39.280
<v Speaker 5>ten or eleven victims in paul In, New York, according

1181
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:46.000
<v Speaker 5>to Ken Lynch interested and briar Cliff protected him.

1182
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:47.039
<v Speaker 4>Is that his father?

1183
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:49.280
<v Speaker 5>Well, I'd like to I'd like to know how he

1184
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:50.000
<v Speaker 5>was brought up.

1185
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:53.480
<v Speaker 1>She's just done.

1186
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 4>You heard him. That was start taking the own saying

1187
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:58.360
<v Speaker 4>you got big because you deserved it.

1188
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, He openly admitted to it.

1189
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:06.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, on camera, on camera, but the news anchors weren't rolling.

1190
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Just now, that's obviously not I like how he calls

1191
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 3>out the dad too. Yoisha's shit son.

1192
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Basically, I want to know how I was raised. Your

1193
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.000
<v Speaker 4>asshole son has tried killing me twice, you know. But hey,

1194
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.400
<v Speaker 4>whatever did you hear that?

1195
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 7>Was that a briar Cliff cop?

1196
01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, didn't here it is. Wait, I'll get the guy.

1197
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.320
<v Speaker 4>They don't even have to hide it in briar Cliff.

1198
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:33.440
<v Speaker 5>It's clan country.

1199
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:36.440
<v Speaker 4>It's clan country, is what he said.

1200
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, it's incredible that even the media, knowing

1201
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:46.440
<v Speaker 2>that there was an open FBI investigation going on at

1202
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:51.119
<v Speaker 2>that time, still decided like, ah, we're not gonna talk

1203
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 2>to you, pal, Sorry, but why because he's the local

1204
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:58.000
<v Speaker 2>public access conspiracy guy calling out the corruption.

1205
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:02.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but he was a baseball not baseball basketball

1206
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:06.239
<v Speaker 3>hero or you know, at least awesome. And then it

1207
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:10.679
<v Speaker 3>didn't sound like he was considered crazy crazy.

1208
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:11.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, he's not.

1209
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:16.679
<v Speaker 2>He's not crazy for sure, but still it's it's heartbreaking.

1210
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 2>So now we're gonna actually read this, uh this article

1211
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:21.119
<v Speaker 2>from briar Cliff.

1212
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Itself the Daily Voice, if you will, Clay Tiffany noted

1213
01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Northern Westchester gadfly found dead.

1214
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.199
<v Speaker 3>You had asked, what, yea, what is the gadfly?

1215
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:35.760
<v Speaker 4>I think that this might be a term meaning like, uh,

1216
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 4>not like.

1217
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Crazy conspiracy theorists.

1218
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:40.639
<v Speaker 2>I think, so it's not like the old town crier

1219
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:44.159
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that, but basically like the town, the

1220
01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:48.320
<v Speaker 2>crazy one, the hair brained. Okay, yeah, So Clay Tiffany,

1221
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and a Scening resident who hosted his own public access

1222
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:54.639
<v Speaker 2>show dirsh for Charlatan's, was found dead in his a

1223
01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Scening home on Thursday, March twenty sixth Let's get into

1224
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:02.880
<v Speaker 2>it here. Tiffany, who died of natural causes, could have

1225
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 2>been dead for two weeks. According to News twelve, he

1226
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:08.239
<v Speaker 2>was sixty nine or seventy years old. They don't even know,

1227
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:11.920
<v Speaker 2>they don't even know. Tiffany was a perennial candidate for

1228
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the Briarcliff Board of Education, running seven times, though never winning.

1229
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:18.840
<v Speaker 2>He sued the village of Briarcliffe Manor numerous times, including

1230
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.440
<v Speaker 2>after he claimed a police officer, Nicholas Tartaglione, assaulted him.

1231
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:25.000
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and four, Jerry Smith, the president of

1232
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the Ossining NAACP, was convicted of second degree harassment after

1233
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:35.760
<v Speaker 2>an alleged altercation with Tiffany. According to iohud dot com,

1234
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know so apparently, keep in mind he was

1235
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:41.000
<v Speaker 2>he was going after everybody, even the president of the

1236
01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:45.079
<v Speaker 2>local NAACP chapter geez, so like hell yeah.

1237
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean he took this and was like, I'm not

1238
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:50.079
<v Speaker 3>letting it go till everyone knows what happened.

1239
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:52.320
<v Speaker 4>When we see corruption, we gonna talk about it.

1240
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 2>No matrivs from the Italian mafia or from the you know,

1241
01:03:56.559 --> 01:04:00.360
<v Speaker 2>the upscale blacks of the community. Whatever the he said,

1242
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:02.679
<v Speaker 2>there's corruption in Buffoonery going down, I'm gonna talk about

1243
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.159
<v Speaker 2>it on the show. I like him I really do.

1244
01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Yorktown resident Bruce Apar, who hosts his own public access show,

1245
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.760
<v Speaker 2>said Tiffany epitomized the intent and practice of public access

1246
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:17.119
<v Speaker 2>television to give voice to anyone and everyone who wishes

1247
01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:21.360
<v Speaker 2>to share ideas and thoughts and yes, grievances, petty and perceive.

1248
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Though some they may be he may have been obnoxious

1249
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and obstrapracious, obst obstrepperous, Okay, obstreppers, but there's no law

1250
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:37.280
<v Speaker 2>against either, which is accurate.

1251
01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:39.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know that where it is.

1252
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:41.079
<v Speaker 4>Abstrepperous, abstreepers.

1253
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:41.599
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

1254
01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Sean mcgaffee, general manager of Pleasantville pc TV, he said

1255
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:48.599
<v Speaker 2>he didn't know Tiffany personally, but he saw a show.

1256
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Public access is about the First Amendment rights. McGaffey said

1257
01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:56.079
<v Speaker 2>he certainly exercised those. He was very forceful. He used

1258
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:58.400
<v Speaker 2>his freedom of speech to the fullest extent, and that

1259
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:02.119
<v Speaker 2>was him. So again, they don't really know how he died.

1260
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:04.400
<v Speaker 2>They just said it was natural causes and they walked

1261
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 2>away from that.

1262
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:09.599
<v Speaker 3>That's like the blanket term. They probably would have thrown

1263
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:11.039
<v Speaker 3>another COVID if they had a chance.

1264
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<v Speaker 2>If it was during COVID, it absolutely would have a

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01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:16.840
<v Speaker 2>COVID death. COVID death, There's no two ways about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, now let's get into this snitch situation, this

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01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:28.119
<v Speaker 2>familial tie to your boy Tartaglione and the Banana crime family.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm not gonna read the entire article here. This

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01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:30.840
<v Speaker 4>is from the New York Post.

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01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:34.760
<v Speaker 2>But Banano snitch says he didn't actually kill anyone, So

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01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:38.000
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about it here. The Banano coppo turned Canary

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01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:43.039
<v Speaker 2>James Louis Tartaglione, also known as Big Lou shot Down,

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01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:45.840
<v Speaker 2>claims Tuesday that he murdered seven people during his time

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01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:48.360
<v Speaker 2>in the mob, saying he simply asked his bosses to

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01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:51.159
<v Speaker 2>whack the victims and didn't actually pull the trigger. As

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01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:54.599
<v Speaker 2>he testified against four mobsters on trial for loan sharking,

1277
01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:59.639
<v Speaker 2>drug dealing, and running illegally gab illegal gambling operations. The

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01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.840
<v Speaker 2>seventy eight year old Wise Guy is the prosecution's key

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01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:06.800
<v Speaker 2>witness in the trial against Vito Badamo, ernest A Yello

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01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:12.000
<v Speaker 2>and Anthony Skinny Santaro and Nicholas Nicki mouth Santaro, who

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01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 2>inspired the characters played in the Late Bruno Kirby in

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01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:20.159
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen ninety seven film Donnie Brasco, did you offer

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01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:23.480
<v Speaker 2>did you ever yourself commit the act of killing? As

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01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Gary Galperin as he referred to

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01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:31.559
<v Speaker 2>the defensive claim that Tartaglion was not a reliable witness

1286
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and that he was responsible for the deaths of several

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01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:37.599
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote made men in the Bonano crime family, including

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01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Cesaret Bonvitre in nineteen eighty four and the infamous Three

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01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Coppos murder in nineteen eighty one. For anybody who doesn't

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01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:47.639
<v Speaker 2>know what that is or the time frame that I'm

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01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:51.920
<v Speaker 2>talking about here, there was a war that took place

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01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:57.280
<v Speaker 2>and a content creator who I adore his content.

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<v Speaker 4>His name is Michael Francis.

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01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:02.119
<v Speaker 2>He was a coppo, same as this guy, which is

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01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:06.440
<v Speaker 2>a street captain within the Colombo crime family. He got

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01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.599
<v Speaker 2>put away when there was a war going on. When

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01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:11.679
<v Speaker 2>he got out of jail, the war had already been over.

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01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.519
<v Speaker 2>But this was around this timeframe. So here's the deal

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01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:17.840
<v Speaker 2>in the mafia. It's not like you see in the

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01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:19.840
<v Speaker 2>movies in the twenties and thirties where you have like

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01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:21.840
<v Speaker 2>a hit squad that you send out to go silence

1302
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:25.239
<v Speaker 2>some reporter somewhere you get some little what do they

1303
01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:28.760
<v Speaker 2>call desperado guy to do that. You find some guy

1304
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 2>that's down his luck and you offer him five k

1305
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.400
<v Speaker 2>to go handle this for you, and if he makes

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01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:34.119
<v Speaker 2>it out of that fine, you give him the five bucks.

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01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:36.079
<v Speaker 2>If he doesn't and he gets arrested, you wash your

1308
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:37.559
<v Speaker 2>hands of him. You never met the guy. You don't

1309
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 2>even know anything about him. It's one of these random

1310
01:07:40.199 --> 01:07:42.679
<v Speaker 2>drunks out there doing wild shit. That's how that goes.

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01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:47.280
<v Speaker 2>For the mafia. They take care of their own problems.

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01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:50.639
<v Speaker 2>When they authorize a hit, it's on somebody within their

1313
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:53.440
<v Speaker 2>own family. That's how that goes. They keep all of

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01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.119
<v Speaker 2>their beef in house, and.

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01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:58.440
<v Speaker 4>It's completely against the rules for a member of one

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01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.239
<v Speaker 4>family to kill a member of an other family, even

1317
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.599
<v Speaker 4>if there's beef, even if they have done something so

1318
01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:06.199
<v Speaker 4>egregious on the streets to where it warrants a death,

1319
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:09.159
<v Speaker 4>The head of this family makes a phone call to

1320
01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:12.280
<v Speaker 4>the head of the other family. They discuss what needs

1321
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:14.800
<v Speaker 4>to take place, and then that family will handle their

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01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:16.039
<v Speaker 4>own member in house.

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01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right. Even your own family will be the

1324
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:20.279
<v Speaker 2>one to put the bullet in your own head. That

1325
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:21.680
<v Speaker 2>is how the mafia does business.

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01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:23.119
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like Shakespeare to.

1327
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:27.039
<v Speaker 4>Me, interestingly enough, you know, that's a lot of it.

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01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:29.079
<v Speaker 3>It definitely does sound a lot like Shakespeare to me,

1329
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:32.199
<v Speaker 3>which which play and Juliette.

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01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:34.359
<v Speaker 4>Two houses both alike, and dignity and stature.

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01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:35.039
<v Speaker 9>M hmm.

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01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:36.600
<v Speaker 4>But that was the thing.

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01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:38.840
<v Speaker 2>They had so much turmoil in the streets for so

1334
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:40.880
<v Speaker 2>long that the government finally said, if y'all do it

1335
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:43.439
<v Speaker 2>one more time, then I'm throwing all you all asses

1336
01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:46.199
<v Speaker 2>in jail. So the mafia understood that that was how

1337
01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:48.960
<v Speaker 2>that went so, and that's that's not exactly a secret.

1338
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:49.640
<v Speaker 4>Bondy means.

1339
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:52.920
<v Speaker 2>They they've talked about this in so many documentaries and

1340
01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.920
<v Speaker 2>things like this, the all out family versus family war

1341
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that went away after this war because of the amount

1342
01:08:59.960 --> 01:09:02.720
<v Speaker 2>of heat that it brought on everybody, the amount of

1343
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:05.800
<v Speaker 2>bloodshed that it took place. It was bad for business,

1344
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:09.079
<v Speaker 2>which if the mafia is one thing, they are about

1345
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:13.079
<v Speaker 2>their business before anything else, and violence and blood in

1346
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:17.159
<v Speaker 2>the streets is never good for business, right, It's just not.

1347
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:19.399
<v Speaker 2>That's why they've also done the things that they've done

1348
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:23.399
<v Speaker 2>and handled things in house. So anyway, the three Coppos

1349
01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:27.640
<v Speaker 2>murders in nineteen eighty one very famous killings that took

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01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:31.600
<v Speaker 2>place during this war. Tartaglione says, no I was there,

1351
01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:34.439
<v Speaker 2>that's it. Though, describing one incident from the mid nineties,

1352
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Tartaglion said, he put in the word to have Charles

1353
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Crazy Charlie Trevela murdered, but he later changed his mind,

1354
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:43.520
<v Speaker 2>so I think I'd like to whack him out. Calling

1355
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:47.159
<v Speaker 2>for salvator vitally and underboss to the Banano crime family.

1356
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:49.720
<v Speaker 2>So the way that the rank structure works here, there's

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01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:54.000
<v Speaker 2>only four levels within crime families. You have the coppo

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01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:57.359
<v Speaker 2>to coppo or the down, which is like the boss, right,

1359
01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:00.960
<v Speaker 2>that's the boss under him. You have what's called underbosses.

1360
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Think of these as like your generals in a sense,

1361
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:07.159
<v Speaker 2>there's not a lot of them. These are like his

1362
01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:09.880
<v Speaker 2>immediate close circle of dudes that are the movers and

1363
01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:12.319
<v Speaker 2>shakers for the family. Of course, you have what's called

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01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the consiglieri, which is like his consultants, his console. He

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01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:18.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have any power, but he's also kind of the

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01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.720
<v Speaker 2>hand of the king, if you will. Under them, you

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01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:24.680
<v Speaker 2>have what's called your coppos or your captains, right, that's

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01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:27.640
<v Speaker 2>a tieme for captain, and they're the ones that run

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01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:29.319
<v Speaker 2>a crew of made men.

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01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.359
<v Speaker 4>Made men are what you might call your foot soldiers.

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01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:37.279
<v Speaker 2>They are absolutely indoctrinated members of the family, but they

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01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:38.479
<v Speaker 2>themselves are not.

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01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:41.119
<v Speaker 4>They don't hold any real power, but they.

1374
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Themselves can run different operations and push different.

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01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:47.079
<v Speaker 4>Groups of guys. How can I put this? Think of

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01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:49.439
<v Speaker 4>them as like your sergeants.

1377
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, if we're going to talk military rank and file,

1378
01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:55.520
<v Speaker 2>here your street thugs that are out there committing crimes

1379
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:58.119
<v Speaker 2>and things. These are like your privates. These are your

1380
01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:00.800
<v Speaker 2>e threes, e four's. They're out there doing the things.

1381
01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Your made men is like your sergeant or your staff

1382
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:07.159
<v Speaker 2>in CEO. The street captain is kind of like your captain.

1383
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Your underboss is more like your upper management. Let's talk

1384
01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:14.279
<v Speaker 2>like colonels in general status, and then above that is

1385
01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.359
<v Speaker 2>the boss. So that's how this goes. So this guy

1386
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:22.000
<v Speaker 2>was a street captain. But anyway, so Tartaglione, that is

1387
01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:24.960
<v Speaker 2>not a common name. No, it's not even in the

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01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Italian circles. My first wife was Italian, and I got

1389
01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:30.279
<v Speaker 2>a pretty decent look at how the mafia works with

1390
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:35.079
<v Speaker 2>her family. They were also very connected with mister Marsalis

1391
01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:37.960
<v Speaker 2>in New Orleans, which was the boss of New Orleans

1392
01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:39.039
<v Speaker 2>as far as the Mafia.

1393
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Was concerned for decades.

1394
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, no, no, he's been dead for a while, but

1395
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:47.520
<v Speaker 2>the Mafia doesn't have as much ruling in New Orleans

1396
01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:50.359
<v Speaker 2>as they once did. He was pretty much the last

1397
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:54.720
<v Speaker 2>real don New Orleans. Yeah, everything that was legitimate. Everything

1398
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:59.399
<v Speaker 2>now is very much above board. Now you have cartels

1399
01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:02.640
<v Speaker 2>that have come and other you know, like, uh, the

1400
01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:04.800
<v Speaker 2>black street gangs have taken over a lot of the

1401
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:06.760
<v Speaker 2>sections of it. The Mafia is not going to be

1402
01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:09.800
<v Speaker 2>on the street pushing dope and pimping out women. They're

1403
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:12.159
<v Speaker 2>worried about the casinos, They're worried about the sports betting.

1404
01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:14.880
<v Speaker 2>They're the high dollar crime kind of shit. But my

1405
01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:17.800
<v Speaker 2>point is, though, Tartaglione is not a common name, And

1406
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:20.640
<v Speaker 2>if you're wondering if there's a connection between James Big

1407
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Lou tartag Leone and our guy Nick cousins, they're literally cousins.

1408
01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:30.720
<v Speaker 4>So he has blood ties and beyond any shadow of

1409
01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:34.359
<v Speaker 4>any doubt to the Banano crime family, which is one

1410
01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.359
<v Speaker 4>of the big five families of New York.

1411
01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:39.039
<v Speaker 3>I actually don't know a bunch about mobs.

1412
01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:41.199
<v Speaker 4>I know, I know a good beating.

1413
01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I could tell, I could tell, I know those nerd

1414
01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:45.479
<v Speaker 3>things that you like.

1415
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, But I mean it's also it's interesting to

1416
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:53.920
<v Speaker 2>me because especially in the world of crime, there have

1417
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.479
<v Speaker 2>been so many things that have been transplanted. Right, Like,

1418
01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:58.720
<v Speaker 2>we didn't come up with Casa Nostra, which is the

1419
01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:03.159
<v Speaker 2>mafia in America that came over from Sicily. The only

1420
01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:08.199
<v Speaker 2>real crime syndication that America has had start to finish

1421
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:12.399
<v Speaker 2>is American through and through is motorcycle clubs. And I

1422
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:14.279
<v Speaker 2>love that, right, I mean I rode with the club

1423
01:13:14.279 --> 01:13:15.840
<v Speaker 2>at one point in time. Not a one percent or

1424
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a outlaw club by any means, but I got a

1425
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:20.560
<v Speaker 2>real good look at what that world's about.

1426
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:24.079
<v Speaker 4>It was fun, not gonna lie.

1427
01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:27.399
<v Speaker 2>But also it's yeah, you have to pretty much just

1428
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:29.800
<v Speaker 2>give your entire life to the organization at that point,

1429
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:32.960
<v Speaker 2>which is what the mafia does as well. So looking

1430
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:39.000
<v Speaker 2>into the mafia itself and the early early nineteen hundred's,

1431
01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:42.920
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen twenties, how Kennedy got so big, how so

1432
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:46.760
<v Speaker 2>many big presidents were put in that position because of

1433
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:53.159
<v Speaker 2>their mafia ties. New York City being what it is, Chicago, Boston, Philly, Pittsburgh,

1434
01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:57.039
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, Vegas, San Francisco, Los Angeles.

1435
01:13:57.119 --> 01:13:59.760
<v Speaker 4>All of these cities got put on the map because of.

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01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:03.479
<v Speaker 3>The Okay, I didn't know that, to be honest with you.

1437
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:06.279
<v Speaker 2>The only reason Vegas is the thing, yeah, is because

1438
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:08.399
<v Speaker 2>of the Mafia, Okay, and Jimmy.

1439
01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Hoffa, I didn't. I mean, I know some of it, obviously.

1440
01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:15.600
<v Speaker 3>I've seen the movies and the TV shows and that

1441
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff, and I've heard the stories, but I've

1442
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:20.920
<v Speaker 3>never been like super big in the looking into it.

1443
01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:23.279
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I love it. It's a whole thing. I geek

1444
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:24.439
<v Speaker 4>out over. I absolutely do.

1445
01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't idolize these gentlemen for multiple reasons, but because

1446
01:14:28.439 --> 01:14:33.880
<v Speaker 2>of my weird geekness towards history and things, it just

1447
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:34.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of ties in.

1448
01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:39.279
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, all right, good cult members. Sorry about a

1449
01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:39.760
<v Speaker 4>little bit.

1450
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Of a continuity issue here. Situation came up. Long story short,

1451
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Raven Lee is at her home studio. I am still

1452
01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:49.239
<v Speaker 2>at my home studio and we are continuing the episode.

1453
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Shouldn't really be that big of a deal.

1454
01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:53.720
<v Speaker 2>But if it sounds like the audio is a little

1455
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.840
<v Speaker 2>bit different, or that there was like a weird lag

1456
01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:02.359
<v Speaker 2>between things, that was why things happen. Things and stuff yeah, no,

1457
01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:05.680
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, all right, so we were talking about how

1458
01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:10.359
<v Speaker 2>there was obvious mafia connections to Homeboy in question. Now

1459
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.119
<v Speaker 2>we are going to talk about it even further here,

1460
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.039
<v Speaker 2>but before we get into that, we're going to read

1461
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:18.159
<v Speaker 2>in on the Yonkers Times. Some of this has already

1462
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:19.640
<v Speaker 2>been talked about, so we're not going to be getting

1463
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:22.600
<v Speaker 2>into the entire article by any means, but continuing on

1464
01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:26.720
<v Speaker 2>with the story of Klay Tiffany Clay, Tiffany gadfly, truth teller,

1465
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:30.479
<v Speaker 2>pest and movie star believe it or not, Like you know,

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01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:33.640
<v Speaker 2>we talked about earlier his show Dirsh for the Charlatans,

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01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:36.960
<v Speaker 2>which aired on the Oscening cable access studio in the

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<v Speaker 2>late nineteen nineties. We talked about the accusations with Tartaglione.

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01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:45.520
<v Speaker 2>We talked about Tartaglione's obvious mafia connections, the FBI investigation

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01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:48.399
<v Speaker 2>where he won two hundred k from it, and he

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01:15:48.600 --> 01:15:51.640
<v Speaker 2>died in twenty fifteen a broken man, but did have

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01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a moment of notoriety in Westchester because of his public

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01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:59.960
<v Speaker 2>access shows, lawsuits and confrontations with Tartaglion. Tartaglion was fire

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01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:04.439
<v Speaker 2>then rehired by the briar Cliff Police Department. He later

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01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:08.359
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote retired and moved upstate where he became a

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01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:12.199
<v Speaker 2>drug dealer, eventually killing four of his drug partners. He

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01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:15.960
<v Speaker 2>was convicted of murder and is now currently serving multiple

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01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:16.840
<v Speaker 2>life sentences.

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<v Speaker 4>Should throw that out, one for each of the people.

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01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:22.880
<v Speaker 3>He's so shocked. It's that he killed people, that he

1481
01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:24.520
<v Speaker 3>was a bad guy in the end.

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01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Who saw that coming, you know what I mean?

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01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:30.680
<v Speaker 2>But uh, I will say Kim said almost like he

1484
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:32.920
<v Speaker 2>gave like a lot of heads up on that, right,

1485
01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.960
<v Speaker 2>But uh I will say that it's interesting the manner

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01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.000
<v Speaker 2>in which he killed these people. We have an article

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01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:39.399
<v Speaker 2>in a news clip. We're going to play in a

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01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:41.439
<v Speaker 2>bit to give it a lot better than I will.

1489
01:16:41.479 --> 01:16:46.319
<v Speaker 2>But it's brutal. It's very mafioso, believe it or not.

1490
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:51.279
<v Speaker 2>The story of Tiffany and tartag Leone and Epstein has

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01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:55.079
<v Speaker 2>drawn the interest of Emmy Award winning producer Gary Cohen,

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01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:59.039
<v Speaker 2>who has created nine documentary films for ESPN's thirty for

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01:16:59.079 --> 01:16:59.680
<v Speaker 2>thirty series.

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01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:01.319
<v Speaker 4>This is his direct quote here.

1495
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:04.039
<v Speaker 2>This is about free speech and how free speech isn't

1496
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:07.439
<v Speaker 2>always pretty, but it's effective in keeping the public informed

1497
01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and the public servants accountable. Clay Tiffany was an ugly

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01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:15.680
<v Speaker 2>necessary part of the system, Cohen said. Clay did something

1499
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.199
<v Speaker 2>that made the system work better, and there is a

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01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:20.920
<v Speaker 2>concern that we are losing that ability by the local

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01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:24.439
<v Speaker 2>press to hold people accountable for bad behavior. Tiffany was

1502
01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:28.159
<v Speaker 2>a voice, a true citizen journalist. While he wasn't right

1503
01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:30.560
<v Speaker 2>all the time, once in a while he hit a

1504
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.439
<v Speaker 2>nerve that needs to be hit more. These voices are

1505
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:37.600
<v Speaker 2>disappearing in this erosion that creates the need for Clay Tiffany,

1506
01:17:37.880 --> 01:17:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and the object lesson is Tartaglione. Clay was screaming that

1507
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione was a rogue cop before he was a drug dealer.

1508
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:48.760
<v Speaker 2>He was an inconvenient truth to the system. That's a

1509
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:50.479
<v Speaker 2>direct quote from your boy Cohen.

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01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:54.279
<v Speaker 3>Again, it was to be Netflix. That'd be like salivating

1511
01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:56.720
<v Speaker 3>to just get a hold of this bad boy and

1512
01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:57.600
<v Speaker 3>make a whole thing.

1513
01:17:58.039 --> 01:18:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe now that more information is coming out with the

1514
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Epstein stuff, maybe more people will start looking at Tartaglione,

1515
01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:07.960
<v Speaker 2>his cellmate who allegedly roughed him up and all these things,

1516
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:12.319
<v Speaker 2>and maybe Clay Tiffany will get his second time in

1517
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:12.760
<v Speaker 2>the sun.

1518
01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:13.840
<v Speaker 4>I hope.

1519
01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:16.479
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, I don't feel like he was a bad guy.

1520
01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know the way that he spoke about him,

1521
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:21.680
<v Speaker 3>it seemed like he was just like this horrible person.

1522
01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:24.199
<v Speaker 3>It's like he didn't seem like he was doing anything

1523
01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:29.000
<v Speaker 3>inherently evil or you know, terrible. Talking about conspiracies of

1524
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:29.760
<v Speaker 3>what's going on.

1525
01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:33.760
<v Speaker 4>Not terrible, but he was.

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01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Continuing on the article, it says Riceman was one of

1527
01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:43.159
<v Speaker 2>many which Westchester residents who didn't care for Tiffany's antics.

1528
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany had a bad habit of showing up unannounced to

1529
01:18:46.119 --> 01:18:48.880
<v Speaker 2>confront elected officials and journalists when he disagreed with what

1530
01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:52.119
<v Speaker 2>they were doing or weren't doing. Most people that knew

1531
01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:56.479
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany did not like him. Oh, I mean I could

1532
01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:57.159
<v Speaker 2>see that being.

1533
01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:00.560
<v Speaker 3>So he rocked the boat and pissed people off.

1534
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:03.520
<v Speaker 4>He rocked the boat. He could be a tad on

1535
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:04.680
<v Speaker 4>the annoying side.

1536
01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:07.680
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like, uh, you know, the people that

1537
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:10.720
<v Speaker 2>claim the moon landing wasn't real, myself included, But there

1538
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:12.600
<v Speaker 2>are people that will go the extra mile with that

1539
01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and meet up with buzz Aldrin when he's just like

1540
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:17.720
<v Speaker 2>out and about mining his business and he is like

1541
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:20.760
<v Speaker 2>an old man at this point, and they'll walk up

1542
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:22.920
<v Speaker 2>to him with a Bible and be like, why won't

1543
01:19:22.920 --> 01:19:24.560
<v Speaker 2>you just swear on the Bible? You went to the moon,

1544
01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:26.439
<v Speaker 2>why won't you And then finally it's to the point

1545
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:27.920
<v Speaker 2>where it's like, okay, piece of shit.

1546
01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Can I just have lunch? Can I just eat my meal?

1547
01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:31.079
<v Speaker 3>No?

1548
01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:32.359
<v Speaker 4>Because you're lying to the people.

1549
01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:34.800
<v Speaker 2>And then you like he roundhouses these people when I

1550
01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.000
<v Speaker 2>actually roundhouse more like gives him that good old cross.

1551
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:42.680
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, you know, these people who they believe

1552
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:46.119
<v Speaker 2>that they're doing the right thing, confronting him NonStop. But

1553
01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:47.680
<v Speaker 2>it gets to the point where it's like, Okay, y'all

1554
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:49.319
<v Speaker 2>are just annoying at this point.

1555
01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:50.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I get it.

1556
01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:52.720
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, Clay Tiffany didn't do this

1557
01:19:52.760 --> 01:19:56.479
<v Speaker 2>to everybody. He did it to people who he disagreed with,

1558
01:19:56.720 --> 01:19:59.039
<v Speaker 2>and then more often than not, he was correct.

1559
01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:03.399
<v Speaker 3>She made some claims like wasn't it Most of his claims, though,

1560
01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:06.840
<v Speaker 3>had at least truth and backing to a good bit

1561
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:09.439
<v Speaker 3>of it, not all of it, but I mean he

1562
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:13.079
<v Speaker 3>called out a lot of corruption and things that were

1563
01:20:13.119 --> 01:20:15.119
<v Speaker 3>being done or not done.

1564
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:16.119
<v Speaker 4>To that point. Uh.

1565
01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany also heckled district attorney Janine Piro on several occasions

1566
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:26.159
<v Speaker 2>blurting out, how's your husband, referring to al Piro and

1567
01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:29.600
<v Speaker 2>his tax troubles. And then again at her book signing.

1568
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:32.840
<v Speaker 2>She was out signing books and he came up, microphone

1569
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:34.880
<v Speaker 2>in hand. I was like, what's the matter, Janine? Did

1570
01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:36.960
<v Speaker 2>you have a bad face lift?

1571
01:20:37.239 --> 01:20:42.640
<v Speaker 10>So, like, I mean, yeah, I'm not saying that he's

1572
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:48.039
<v Speaker 10>not funny, but there's you know, I could understand why

1573
01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:51.039
<v Speaker 10>people felt some type of way about him.

1574
01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:53.319
<v Speaker 3>All right, doesn't mean he didn't. I mean, I still

1575
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:57.840
<v Speaker 3>think he died by the hands of the mafia, but.

1576
01:20:56.920 --> 01:20:58.239
<v Speaker 4>For sure I agree.

1577
01:20:58.359 --> 01:21:00.439
<v Speaker 2>But even still, like I said, every and then he

1578
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:05.039
<v Speaker 2>would make a claim that was incorrect, and he may

1579
01:21:05.079 --> 01:21:08.680
<v Speaker 2>have been a bit of a dick Okay, maybe possibly,

1580
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:12.720
<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't negate the truths that he was unveiling,

1581
01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, and that was his whole point.

1582
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:20.079
<v Speaker 3>So, and to speak on the journalist thing, though most

1583
01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:24.640
<v Speaker 3>journalists can't they're trying, I will say that for all

1584
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.960
<v Speaker 3>of TikTok's bullshit, which the only reason why I've actually

1585
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:30.000
<v Speaker 3>been got into TikTok. I think it's been over a

1586
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.119
<v Speaker 3>year now, I've kind of like had it and I've

1587
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:35.880
<v Speaker 3>just like started learning it more. But I will say

1588
01:21:35.880 --> 01:21:39.279
<v Speaker 3>that journalists are able to some are able to voice

1589
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:44.560
<v Speaker 3>more of their opinions than ever before that aren't being

1590
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:48.319
<v Speaker 3>as silenced because once it goes viral, it is like

1591
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:51.560
<v Speaker 3>just a mad house. And once that happens, they're able

1592
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:55.720
<v Speaker 3>to continue the momentum, and unfortunately for I guess the

1593
01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:58.600
<v Speaker 3>ones that are being targeted, they can't slow it down.

1594
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:01.520
<v Speaker 2>So but that's the other that's the dark side of it, right,

1595
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:04.239
<v Speaker 2>once they get some momentum behind them, they will do

1596
01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:07.279
<v Speaker 2>and say anything to keep that momentum.

1597
01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:12.520
<v Speaker 3>And it again, it's just a yeah, there's two sides

1598
01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:16.279
<v Speaker 3>to every coin. But unfortunately, so much things, so many

1599
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:21.880
<v Speaker 3>things that should be getting representation and deep dives half

1600
01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:24.800
<v Speaker 3>the time they're getting stopped. Like I was watching a

1601
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:28.199
<v Speaker 3>whole thing about the glitter industry, and this woman went

1602
01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:31.159
<v Speaker 3>out of her way to do everything by the law correctly,

1603
01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:36.960
<v Speaker 3>and she was shut down at every turn, harassed everything else.

1604
01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:40.000
<v Speaker 3>And she's like, I'm just trying to ask some simple questions.

1605
01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Yet you guys are treating me like I'm trying to

1606
01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:45.439
<v Speaker 3>shut down this entire industry and kill a whole bunch

1607
01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:48.399
<v Speaker 3>of people. And it was just a simple journalist that

1608
01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:52.359
<v Speaker 3>just wanted to have some questions with the company and nope,

1609
01:22:52.720 --> 01:22:55.119
<v Speaker 3>and she's like, I'm not going to report on this

1610
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:58.520
<v Speaker 3>any longer. And she did, I think like one or

1611
01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:01.720
<v Speaker 3>two quickly little things about it, and that that was.

1612
01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:03.079
<v Speaker 4>It, right.

1613
01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:05.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing when they go out of when

1614
01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:09.880
<v Speaker 2>they the mainstream or the going narrative or the governing body,

1615
01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:12.319
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it, when they go out

1616
01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:16.279
<v Speaker 2>of their way to silence a person, there's a there's

1617
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:21.119
<v Speaker 2>a difference between uh, this person, this this independent journalist

1618
01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:25.520
<v Speaker 2>harassing individual, even if that's an elected official. There is

1619
01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:28.520
<v Speaker 2>a fine line between harassing them to the point where

1620
01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:33.279
<v Speaker 2>like a what's it called a restraining order needs to

1621
01:23:33.319 --> 01:23:36.600
<v Speaker 2>be talked about, and them just going out of their

1622
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:39.560
<v Speaker 2>way to call them out paparazzi style. There's there's levels

1623
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:41.119
<v Speaker 2>to this, you know what I mean. And hell, even

1624
01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:46.359
<v Speaker 2>with the paparazzi, they go way above and beyond, way beyond,

1625
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:49.199
<v Speaker 2>and more often than not they do need restraining orders

1626
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:51.680
<v Speaker 2>to put on them because these people go to the

1627
01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:52.680
<v Speaker 2>obsessive level.

1628
01:23:52.800 --> 01:23:55.960
<v Speaker 4>It's it's a wild world out there, you know.

1629
01:23:56.039 --> 01:23:58.319
<v Speaker 3>But you always pick and cheese, like the weirdest things

1630
01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.760
<v Speaker 3>and the weirdest people will go after. Yeah, like, why

1631
01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:05.920
<v Speaker 3>not go after Nancy Pelosi? There is literallys decies worth

1632
01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:08.760
<v Speaker 3>of shit and you're just like meh.

1633
01:24:08.920 --> 01:24:14.119
<v Speaker 2>There is literally a website dedicated to tracking her stock portfolio,

1634
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:17.119
<v Speaker 2>her and her husband's because there is no way the

1635
01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:21.760
<v Speaker 2>stock market as a whole has a average growth of

1636
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:26.439
<v Speaker 2>ten percent. She has been right two hundred percent of

1637
01:24:26.479 --> 01:24:29.720
<v Speaker 2>the time. She has literally never missed as far as

1638
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:33.000
<v Speaker 2>a really good investment. And it's crazy whenever she is

1639
01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:36.840
<v Speaker 2>a part of the program to pass laws to better

1640
01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:39.840
<v Speaker 2>certain industries and her portfolio looks like that.

1641
01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:43.279
<v Speaker 4>People know about this. We've talked about this, not just

1642
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:46.560
<v Speaker 4>on this show, many many talking heads with much bigger

1643
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:49.840
<v Speaker 4>platforms than us have talked about this. Nothing ever gets done.

1644
01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:53.399
<v Speaker 2>So to have a reporter not track her down, but

1645
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:55.960
<v Speaker 2>confront her and call her out and report on this

1646
01:24:56.039 --> 01:24:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and then put it on YouTube, I'm good with this, Honestly.

1647
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's harassment. I think that's holding her accountable, yes,

1648
01:25:03.960 --> 01:25:07.479
<v Speaker 3>for the injustice that she's doing to the American people.

1649
01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:12.159
<v Speaker 2>And Clay Tiffany was all about holding people accountable. And again,

1650
01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:14.439
<v Speaker 2>there was a couple of claims that he made that

1651
01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:16.880
<v Speaker 2>were and why I said a couple that I'm being generous.

1652
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:18.680
<v Speaker 4>There was a few, there was there was a number

1653
01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:21.159
<v Speaker 4>that he was wrong. Fine.

1654
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:24.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he ever published retractions. I don't

1655
01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>know if he ever put out an apology. I feel

1656
01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:27.079
<v Speaker 2>like he didn't to be.

1657
01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:29.439
<v Speaker 3>Honest with you. I feel like he was one of

1658
01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:32.800
<v Speaker 3>those types of people where he was to triple down.

1659
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like fuck you.

1660
01:25:35.079 --> 01:25:36.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm going to apologize.

1661
01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:39.279
<v Speaker 2>He got the shit beat out of him four times

1662
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:42.279
<v Speaker 2>by this cop and then still to the day he died,

1663
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:43.159
<v Speaker 2>showed up.

1664
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:46.319
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the fact that he showed up and called out

1665
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:51.199
<v Speaker 3>his dad in front of him and the reporter, that's

1666
01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:54.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot. That's pretty ballsy. I mean, that's pretty ballsy.

1667
01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:58.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give him that. He definitely was about proving

1668
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:01.000
<v Speaker 3>a point which I I can stand behind.

1669
01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:03.760
<v Speaker 4>I'll say that Clay Tiffany was here for the smoke

1670
01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:06.520
<v Speaker 4>and he wanted all of it. He wanted all of it,

1671
01:26:06.880 --> 01:26:08.760
<v Speaker 4>he wanted it in his body. Let's go.

1672
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:12.079
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, there is at least I love him,

1673
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:14.640
<v Speaker 2>hate him whatever. You got to put a layer of

1674
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:15.439
<v Speaker 2>respect on his.

1675
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:15.920
<v Speaker 4>Name for that.

1676
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:19.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm curious to see if they'll actually if

1677
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:24.279
<v Speaker 3>he'll gain some momentum because everything that's going on. And

1678
01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:28.399
<v Speaker 3>I just watched a really cool YouTube video about the

1679
01:26:28.439 --> 01:26:32.800
<v Speaker 3>prison cell, and it was talking about that whole situation

1680
01:26:33.479 --> 01:26:36.359
<v Speaker 3>and then leading up to his death, Epstein's death, and

1681
01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:39.439
<v Speaker 3>then showing it from different They actually built a mock

1682
01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:44.399
<v Speaker 3>studio of it with like the actual specifics of everything

1683
01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:47.119
<v Speaker 3>and the camera angles and how it would be and

1684
01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:49.880
<v Speaker 3>what was released and what wasn't released and what now

1685
01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:52.640
<v Speaker 3>is being released about it because they changed the narrative again,

1686
01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:55.600
<v Speaker 3>and so they were talking about the different times and

1687
01:26:55.680 --> 01:26:58.279
<v Speaker 3>the different you know, when the guards were there, when

1688
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:01.960
<v Speaker 3>the guards weren't, what was with the cameras, and they

1689
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:04.600
<v Speaker 3>were showing it from every different angle cameras.

1690
01:27:05.479 --> 01:27:08.000
<v Speaker 4>There was more than one camera, they swore up and down.

1691
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.159
<v Speaker 4>There was only one camera and they haven't moon updated,

1692
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.359
<v Speaker 4>so there was a minute flag time, but there was

1693
01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:15.479
<v Speaker 4>a second camera from a whole different angle, and that

1694
01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:17.800
<v Speaker 4>bitch is missing three minutes of time.

1695
01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:20.239
<v Speaker 3>And it's like they showed it from all different angles.

1696
01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:24.239
<v Speaker 3>That they built this entire cell perfectly just to make

1697
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:27.199
<v Speaker 3>sure that they could visually walk you through it. And

1698
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:30.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yes, yes, I'm a visual person, so to

1699
01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:33.680
<v Speaker 3>be able to walk through each each single thing that's

1700
01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:35.840
<v Speaker 3>been released, I thought it was pretty cool.

1701
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I agree, and so yes, hopefully, with more light being

1702
01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>shed on Epstein, hopefully more light will be shown onto

1703
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:47.960
<v Speaker 2>tartag Leone and therefore on Clay Tiffany. Although it's not

1704
01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:52.239
<v Speaker 2>without we do need to mention the fact that there

1705
01:27:52.319 --> 01:27:57.159
<v Speaker 2>was a show that was made pretty much just to

1706
01:27:57.279 --> 01:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>mock him. If anybody knows the actor John c Riley,

1707
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>which we mentioned earlier in the episode, as this guy

1708
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of looked like him, there's a reason John c

1709
01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>Riley created a character for an American comedy TV series

1710
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>called Check It Out with Doctor.

1711
01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Stephen Brule or Brulet.

1712
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>That was his character who has an uncanny similarity to

1713
01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany and his public access show. As a matter of fact,

1714
01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:24.199
<v Speaker 2>I have a quick clip from this right now. We're

1715
01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:27.479
<v Speaker 2>gonna go ahead and share the screen and we're gonna

1716
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>talk about it here in just a second.

1717
01:28:42.279 --> 01:28:44.319
<v Speaker 4>If it looks like shitty editing, that's the point.

1718
01:28:55.159 --> 01:29:18.239
<v Speaker 6>Oh that's the sound of horse all right, I'm doctor

1719
01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:22.319
<v Speaker 6>Steve Brule. Today we talk about can.

1720
01:29:22.239 --> 01:29:25.039
<v Speaker 4>You guess ports?

1721
01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:28.960
<v Speaker 6>Well, if you don't have a car or a skrateboard.

1722
01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:31.600
<v Speaker 6>What are you gonna do? You're a ship out of luck. Charlie,

1723
01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:35.640
<v Speaker 6>get a horse, No, Charlie, horse, horse, horse to eat,

1724
01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:38.399
<v Speaker 6>horse to ride. Let's stop horsing the raft and check

1725
01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:38.760
<v Speaker 6>it out.

1726
01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Check it out.

1727
01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:48.960
<v Speaker 2>So, like I said, this was done as a mockery

1728
01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:55.079
<v Speaker 2>to our boy Tiffany. And if you've ever seen, there's

1729
01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:58.800
<v Speaker 2>memes of clips of that show. For the record, it's

1730
01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:01.479
<v Speaker 2>not my brain of comedy. Even before I knew anything

1731
01:30:01.479 --> 01:30:05.279
<v Speaker 2>about Clay Tiffany, it's I do like John c Riley

1732
01:30:05.359 --> 01:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>as an actor and as a funny man on screen.

1733
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:10.039
<v Speaker 4>I think he's great.

1734
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:15.159
<v Speaker 2>This Basically I thought for the longest time that this

1735
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:20.039
<v Speaker 2>was him shitting on the mentally handicapped, like I genuinely.

1736
01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Can it be about autistic people?

1737
01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Instead, come to find out it was strictly modeled off

1738
01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:31.159
<v Speaker 2>of Clay Tiffany and his public access show. And I

1739
01:30:31.199 --> 01:30:34.279
<v Speaker 2>don't think it was made to just make fun of him,

1740
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:37.079
<v Speaker 2>but basically the premise of his show and his speech

1741
01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and his look and all these things that was him.

1742
01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:43.760
<v Speaker 2>So and you've probably seen memes of him that of

1743
01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>this this show where he it's called check it Out,

1744
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>where he's looking around like like, what the hell is

1745
01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:49.560
<v Speaker 2>happening right now?

1746
01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:50.560
<v Speaker 4>You'll see that gift.

1747
01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:52.840
<v Speaker 2>A lot on social media is of like when someone

1748
01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:56.159
<v Speaker 2>says something really stupid, you'll probably see the gift right

1749
01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:59.199
<v Speaker 2>underneath it of John c Riley with the coat and

1750
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:03.279
<v Speaker 2>tie looking like something fucking wrong here. But anyway, yes,

1751
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Clay Tiffany was the inspiration behind this.

1752
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:13.319
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, so now let's get on to tartag leone

1753
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:15.960
<v Speaker 4>and the wild shit that he did. As a matter

1754
01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:18.920
<v Speaker 4>of fact, going on here. This is from New York

1755
01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:21.279
<v Speaker 4>NBC Channel four.

1756
01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Ex New York cop who used zip ties and point

1757
01:31:26.079 --> 01:31:33.079
<v Speaker 2>blank executions in twenty sixteen murders gets four life sentences. Yeah,

1758
01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:35.479
<v Speaker 2>let's let's get into it now. Because remember he was

1759
01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>just such a good cop. He went to all these

1760
01:31:37.880 --> 01:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>different departments, and he, by his own emissions, said that

1761
01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was because it was there was it

1762
01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:45.479
<v Speaker 2>was too dangerous in the big city of Briar cliff

1763
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>manor the village of Briar cliff manor the village.

1764
01:31:51.279 --> 01:31:54.399
<v Speaker 4>Not New York City. He was never an NYPD cop.

1765
01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>He was on these outlying suburbs, small town villages and

1766
01:31:58.640 --> 01:32:01.159
<v Speaker 2>all this. But like he kept swat popping up from

1767
01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:08.199
<v Speaker 2>brutality charges to harassment charges to obvious assault charges and everything.

1768
01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:09.680
<v Speaker 4>So then he retires.

1769
01:32:09.960 --> 01:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>He got kicked off the force because the FBI had

1770
01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:16.079
<v Speaker 2>an investigation on him, and then the city ended up

1771
01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:18.560
<v Speaker 2>paying him back pay or the village, I should say,

1772
01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>paid him back pay in the amount of three hundred

1773
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars for time loss because of you know, him

1774
01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>getting fired and all that.

1775
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I like how he got more than Clay did for

1776
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:34.920
<v Speaker 3>being assaulted and put in the hospital and everything else.

1777
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:39.600
<v Speaker 3>He got more money for being the assaulter than the victim.

1778
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Crazy how that works out right by the village, by

1779
01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:44.199
<v Speaker 3>the village, So.

1780
01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's find out here it goes. A foreign police officer

1781
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:49.439
<v Speaker 2>was found guilty on all counts and the murders of

1782
01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:53.359
<v Speaker 2>four men in twenty sixteen. Prosecutors said they were killed

1783
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:56.760
<v Speaker 2>execution style and buried in the officer's basement in New

1784
01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:01.199
<v Speaker 2>York's Orange County, all over a two hundred thousand dollars

1785
01:33:01.279 --> 01:33:06.479
<v Speaker 2>drug debt. Lydia Baquido reports, All right, so let's get

1786
01:33:06.520 --> 01:33:07.079
<v Speaker 2>into it here.

1787
01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:09.239
<v Speaker 4>This is the short and dirty of it, and then

1788
01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:10.199
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna read the article.

1789
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:13.079
<v Speaker 2>All four men were found buried on the property of

1790
01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the former suburban New York police officer Nicholas Tartaglione, who's

1791
01:33:16.840 --> 01:33:19.640
<v Speaker 2>found guilty in the killings and sentenced to four life sentences.

1792
01:33:19.880 --> 01:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>The bodies were recovered in December of twenty sixteen, about

1793
01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:26.279
<v Speaker 2>eight months after the four were killed in Otisville, about

1794
01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>seventy miles north of Manhattan. At trial, defense attorneys argued

1795
01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:32.199
<v Speaker 2>that Tartaglione had nothing to do with the killings and

1796
01:33:32.319 --> 01:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>was being used by the government as a convenient fall guy.

1797
01:33:37.960 --> 01:33:41.119
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk more about why that's funny in and

1798
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:44.359
<v Speaker 2>of itself, but anyway, Tartaglione gained further notoriety as a

1799
01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:48.520
<v Speaker 2>former cellmate of Jeffrey Epstein before the disgraced financier committed

1800
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>suicide quote unquote in a Manhattan jail cell in August

1801
01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:55.119
<v Speaker 2>of twenty nineteen while awaiting sex trafficking charges.

1802
01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:58.119
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so now let's get into it here.

1803
01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione a retired police offe officer who served in Briarcliffe, Manor,

1804
01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Mount Vernon, and Yonkers.

1805
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:08.039
<v Speaker 4>So the dude served with three different departments, had multiple

1806
01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:11.159
<v Speaker 4>investigations done into him, including the one by the FBI,

1807
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:15.800
<v Speaker 4>but anyway, will serve the sentences consecutively for his role

1808
01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:18.359
<v Speaker 4>in the murder of four men, the US Attorney's office

1809
01:34:18.359 --> 01:34:21.399
<v Speaker 4>said Monday. During the sentencing, the judge in the case

1810
01:34:21.439 --> 01:34:27.279
<v Speaker 4>described Tartaglione as a quote monster. The fifty six year

1811
01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:30.399
<v Speaker 4>old was convicted in July of twenty twenty three, nearly

1812
01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:34.199
<v Speaker 4>four years after he briefly was a cellmate of Jeffrey Epstein.

1813
01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:38.680
<v Speaker 4>And it's very funny that they mentioned briefly. It was brief,

1814
01:34:39.079 --> 01:34:40.399
<v Speaker 4>but in that time.

1815
01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Allegedly he threatened to beat the shit out of Jeffrey Epstein.

1816
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:49.760
<v Speaker 3>And he roughed roped him up quote unquote.

1817
01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:52.479
<v Speaker 2>Right, he was like threatening to kill him by his

1818
01:34:52.520 --> 01:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>own emission. Then others say no, he absolutely fucked him up.

1819
01:34:56.199 --> 01:34:58.159
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden he obviously had a

1820
01:34:58.199 --> 01:35:02.119
<v Speaker 2>hand in the murder. Then Jeffrey Epstein clearly killed himself.

1821
01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:04.119
<v Speaker 2>It goes stupid.

1822
01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:06.840
<v Speaker 3>He would have killed himself while in advance for the

1823
01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:11.039
<v Speaker 3>first prison sentence that he had, Yeah, thirteen months of

1824
01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:14.239
<v Speaker 3>wasn't it like just soft prison sentence?

1825
01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:15.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I.

1826
01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:18.399
<v Speaker 3>Mean he had already served and then he had been

1827
01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:22.920
<v Speaker 3>multiple charges already been convicted against him. There's no way

1828
01:35:22.920 --> 01:35:26.239
<v Speaker 3>that he just, you know, magically decided today's the day

1829
01:35:26.920 --> 01:35:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna die. Like, yeah, there's just no way. But

1830
01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:35.439
<v Speaker 3>I just to essentially beat him up because the mafia

1831
01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:38.720
<v Speaker 3>got used in the way of just letting him know that, hey,

1832
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:39.960
<v Speaker 3>your time is expired.

1833
01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:44.079
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, but I'll also say this, remember when we

1834
01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:46.720
<v Speaker 2>talked about the autops of Jeffrey Epstein, and there was

1835
01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:50.479
<v Speaker 2>like three bone breaks that couldn't have happened even if

1836
01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:52.520
<v Speaker 2>it was his own body weight that had dropped.

1837
01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:53.159
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1838
01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:58.319
<v Speaker 2>However, Tartaglione is a massive individual.

1839
01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:00.720
<v Speaker 3>He is a big dude.

1840
01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:03.680
<v Speaker 4>And although he's fifty six, he has not missed the

1841
01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Jim or leg Day one goddamn time in his life.

1842
01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:08.079
<v Speaker 3>What else is he gonna do?

1843
01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Before he even went to prison, he was already in prison.

1844
01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>He's got nothing to do but work out. So while

1845
01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Epstein may not have had his neck snap by

1846
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:21.199
<v Speaker 2>his own body weight from the hanging, I could see

1847
01:36:21.359 --> 01:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>him being strung up in tartagleone yanking him and cracking

1848
01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>these things for sure.

1849
01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:28.039
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmmm.

1850
01:36:28.399 --> 01:36:32.039
<v Speaker 3>I could see him just in his life. Maybe, Well,

1851
01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:34.479
<v Speaker 3>isn't he trying to get a lower prison sentence too?

1852
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:39.600
<v Speaker 4>He's trying to get pardoned. Oh yeah, by Trump, by

1853
01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:44.119
<v Speaker 4>RFK Junior Trump. But we're gonna get to all of

1854
01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:45.560
<v Speaker 4>that here in a bit, I promise.

1855
01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:48.479
<v Speaker 3>Makes a lot more since, especially when we go when

1856
01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:52.239
<v Speaker 3>we will go into the release of the emails and

1857
01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:55.000
<v Speaker 3>everything tomorrow. It makes a lot more sense now.

1858
01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:58.079
<v Speaker 2>And keep in mind, we have talked about Trump being

1859
01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:02.520
<v Speaker 2>mobbed up on this show for quite some time because

1860
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:04.520
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna be a businessman in New York City,

1861
01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>especially in real estate which involves construction. You're not gonna

1862
01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>get that done in New York City without going through

1863
01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:12.000
<v Speaker 2>something mafia related.

1864
01:37:12.399 --> 01:37:13.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that we.

1865
01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Need a cork board with the red string and everything

1866
01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:20.239
<v Speaker 3>just bloo boo boo boo boopot this at all connects.

1867
01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:23.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just insane. There's so many connections. But

1868
01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:25.880
<v Speaker 3>now that I'm thinking about it, it definitely makes a

1869
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:29.199
<v Speaker 3>lot more sense, uh, for them to just use him

1870
01:37:29.239 --> 01:37:30.600
<v Speaker 3>and have him.

1871
01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Die like that? Why not?

1872
01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:32.720
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1873
01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>And if tartag leone does take the fall for this

1874
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>murder as well, he's already serving four consecutive life sentences.

1875
01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>This is what they call on the inside. It's called

1876
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:46.279
<v Speaker 2>sending a torpedo right, so h it's yeah. I'm not

1877
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:49.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna get into the nitty gritty of it, but basically,

1878
01:37:49.319 --> 01:37:52.119
<v Speaker 2>you'll have these guys that will take out the trash

1879
01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:55.319
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote and they'll just commit some murders on the

1880
01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:58.720
<v Speaker 2>inside because they're never seeing the world again. They're never

1881
01:37:58.920 --> 01:38:02.520
<v Speaker 2>never gonna breathe the free air again. So if some

1882
01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:05.399
<v Speaker 2>dirty work needs to get done on the inside, perhaps

1883
01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:06.680
<v Speaker 2>their life on the inside.

1884
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<v Speaker 4>Could get a little more comfortable. And they're willing to

1885
01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:11.479
<v Speaker 4>do some dirt in order to make that happen.

1886
01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:13.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean though, to get pardoned.

1887
01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:15.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1888
01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>By the way, we'll see if that actually comes through

1889
01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:19.720
<v Speaker 2>to Fruition. I know that he's at least put it

1890
01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:22.960
<v Speaker 2>very weird calls. I have a whole article pulled up

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01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:25.319
<v Speaker 2>on that here in a moment, but an age. The

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01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:28.399
<v Speaker 2>bodies were recovered in December of twenty sixteen, about eight

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01:38:28.439 --> 01:38:30.680
<v Speaker 2>months after the four men. I'm gonna try to pronounce

1894
01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:33.960
<v Speaker 2>these names. They are of Latin nature. I apologize, I

1895
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:38.800
<v Speaker 2>speak American English. Martin Luna, Miguel Luna, Urbano Santiago and

1896
01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Hector Gudieirez. I think, okay, we're killed in Otisville, seventy

1897
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:48.560
<v Speaker 2>miles north of Manhattan. This is a direct quote again.

1898
01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Nicholas Star attacked the own brutally and senselessly murdered Martin

1899
01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Luna over money.

1900
01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:58.760
<v Speaker 4>And then ruthlessly executed Urbano Santiago, Miguel Luna, and Hector

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01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:01.680
<v Speaker 4>Gudieirez simply because they were in the wrong place at

1902
01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:02.359
<v Speaker 4>the wrong time.

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01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>He tried to cover up his crimes by burying all

1904
01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:07.560
<v Speaker 2>four victims in a shallow grave on his property.

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<v Speaker 4>US attorney Damian Williams said in a statement, today's sentence

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01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:16.199
<v Speaker 4>of four consecutive life terms justly reflects the pain and

1907
01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:20.319
<v Speaker 4>suffering each victim underwent at Tartaglione's hands. I hope that

1908
01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:23.000
<v Speaker 4>this outcome brings some measure of closure to the victim's

1909
01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:26.840
<v Speaker 4>families and to their community. After Tartaglion was found guilty,

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01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:29.960
<v Speaker 4>Williams said that the former cop mastermind the killing after

1911
01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:33.960
<v Speaker 4>suspected Martin Luna had stolen money from him. Prosecutor said

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01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:36.439
<v Speaker 4>Tartaglione lured Luna into.

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01:39:36.119 --> 01:39:39.479
<v Speaker 2>Meeting him at a bar in what became a deadly

1914
01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:42.359
<v Speaker 2>trap for the man. Two of his nephews and a

1915
01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>family friend he brought with him, Prosecutor said into court papers,

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01:39:46.119 --> 01:39:49.479
<v Speaker 2>that Tartaglione drove Luna's body to the Otisville ranch while

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01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:51.439
<v Speaker 2>his co conspirators brought the other three.

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<v Speaker 4>Men alive and bound to the same place.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we talk about those co conspirators, we are

1920
01:39:56.640 --> 01:39:58.159
<v Speaker 2>going to be talking about them here in a minute,

1921
01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>because all three of these dudes, bodybuilding dudes, who are

1922
01:40:01.560 --> 01:40:04.760
<v Speaker 2>all cops. One of them, the last name Biggs, is

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01:40:04.840 --> 01:40:07.239
<v Speaker 2>also serving a life sentence. The other one called the

1924
01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:10.479
<v Speaker 2>White Rhino, took his own life when the FBI closed

1925
01:40:10.520 --> 01:40:14.199
<v Speaker 2>in on him. But I'm getting ahead of myself. What

1926
01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>occurred next direct quote from Williams could only be described

1927
01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:21.800
<v Speaker 2>as pure terror as titarg Leone tortured Martin then forced

1928
01:40:21.800 --> 01:40:25.039
<v Speaker 2>one of his nephews to watch as Tartaglione strangled Martin

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01:40:25.079 --> 01:40:26.439
<v Speaker 2>to death with a zip tie.

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<v Speaker 4>The prosecutor said.

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<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione and two associates then transported the three men or

1932
01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:36.159
<v Speaker 2>the three other men to a remote wooden location wooded rather,

1933
01:40:36.880 --> 01:40:39.039
<v Speaker 2>forcing them to kneel before shooting each of them in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the head and burying all four men

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01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:44.439
<v Speaker 2>in a mass grave. Prosecutor said Tartaglione shot one of

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01:40:44.479 --> 01:40:48.560
<v Speaker 2>the remaining three men himself. Tartaglion's heinous act represents a

1937
01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:51.840
<v Speaker 2>broader betrayal, as he was a former police officer who

1938
01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:56.119
<v Speaker 2>once swore to protect the very community he devastated. Well,

1939
01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:58.119
<v Speaker 2>hate to break it to you there, Williams qwitt. He

1940
01:40:58.199 --> 01:41:01.399
<v Speaker 2>was devastating the community higher time he wore a badge.

1941
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<v Speaker 3>He must have been shit of his job though, to

1942
01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:06.920
<v Speaker 3>bury these bodies on his land in a shallow grave,

1943
01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:10.479
<v Speaker 3>of all things, it's not knowing how to dispose of

1944
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:13.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, watch a damn Netflix series. You know how

1945
01:41:13.720 --> 01:41:16.840
<v Speaker 3>everyone knows how to dispose bodies at this point, Why

1946
01:41:16.840 --> 01:41:19.600
<v Speaker 3>would you bury them on your property? No?

1947
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<v Speaker 2>No, no, it gets better. This is how fucking retarded

1948
01:41:23.039 --> 01:41:27.880
<v Speaker 2>he was. His land in question was an animal refuge

1949
01:41:28.119 --> 01:41:32.800
<v Speaker 2>that he started as a nonprof with his retirement. He

1950
01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:36.319
<v Speaker 2>literally had animals on the land that could have ate

1951
01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:40.319
<v Speaker 2>these bodies, but he chose to bury them in a

1952
01:41:40.359 --> 01:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>shallow gravenstep.

1953
01:41:42.359 --> 01:41:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Because he is so intelligent, he must be on a

1954
01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:46.359
<v Speaker 3>lot of blow or he used to be.

1955
01:41:47.159 --> 01:41:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I think trend it makes them stupid, it makes them crazy, honestly.

1956
01:41:52.439 --> 01:41:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean he probably did rounds of Trend and Dacca together.

1957
01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:59.720
<v Speaker 3>And I mean you're talking depends on what time frame

1958
01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:00.960
<v Speaker 3>and what kind of drugs.

1959
01:42:01.039 --> 01:42:04.520
<v Speaker 4>So mm hmm, I mean yeah, coke two probably, I

1960
01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:07.359
<v Speaker 4>mean that was what this all was about. He became

1961
01:42:07.399 --> 01:42:08.720
<v Speaker 4>a cocaine dealer.

1962
01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:12.199
<v Speaker 3>But you didn't even tell me, and I knew. I

1963
01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:13.600
<v Speaker 3>was like, he had to be a coke dealer.

1964
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<v Speaker 2>Well that was the drug deal going awry, right, So

1965
01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:18.279
<v Speaker 2>two hundred k came up missing and I don't know

1966
01:42:18.279 --> 01:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>if that was in money or if that was in

1967
01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:23.039
<v Speaker 2>product or whatever the case was. But something went sideways

1968
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:25.680
<v Speaker 2>with this deal which led to the killing of Martin.

1969
01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:29.199
<v Speaker 2>The three other people that were there just became collateral damage,

1970
01:42:29.319 --> 01:42:31.960
<v Speaker 2>honestly because they were witnesses and we can't be having

1971
01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:32.760
<v Speaker 2>no loose ends.

1972
01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:34.520
<v Speaker 4>So they all got gotten.

1973
01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:37.800
<v Speaker 3>And then why the hell would you put them on

1974
01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:40.840
<v Speaker 3>your property? Like why would you do this?

1975
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:46.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, and it's not he's understood to be mafia connected, right,

1976
01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:47.399
<v Speaker 2>They could.

1977
01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Have disposed of the bodies in any way.

1978
01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:52.560
<v Speaker 2>There are so many ways to do that correctly, and

1979
01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:55.600
<v Speaker 2>he just he just went for this because it was

1980
01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>a way. I guess continue on it says at tribal

1981
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:02.560
<v Speaker 2>or excuse me. At trial, defense attorneys had argued that

1982
01:43:02.600 --> 01:43:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Tartag Leone had nothing to do with the killings and

1983
01:43:05.159 --> 01:43:08.079
<v Speaker 2>was being used by the government as a convenient fall guy.

1984
01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Tartagli Owe's attorney could not immediately be reached for comment

1985
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:13.359
<v Speaker 2>after the sentencing.

1986
01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Shocker, when was he sentence? I'm sorry, when was he sentenced?

1987
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<v Speaker 4>Twenty sixteen? Hmm.

1988
01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:23.359
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if they like premeditated this.

1989
01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:27.439
<v Speaker 4>The murder or him getting involved with Epstein.

1990
01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:30.479
<v Speaker 3>Him getting involved with Epstein, because he would have to

1991
01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:33.880
<v Speaker 3>have killed people to get locked up. I'm just saying,

1992
01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:38.039
<v Speaker 3>in a really creepy, crazy world, I could see it

1993
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:38.640
<v Speaker 3>being a thing.

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01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe, but keep in mind, the jail cell

1995
01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:44.560
<v Speaker 2>or the jail that he went to was a high

1996
01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:48.640
<v Speaker 2>profile prison for New York. John Gottie at one point

1997
01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:52.920
<v Speaker 2>was the was in prison here. M So, I mean,

1998
01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:55.600
<v Speaker 2>it's not like this was like he went to Rikers,

1999
01:43:55.960 --> 01:43:57.359
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. He wasn't like fighting for

2000
01:43:57.399 --> 01:43:58.359
<v Speaker 2>his life in Jin Pop.

2001
01:43:58.880 --> 01:44:01.560
<v Speaker 4>He was a cop who had mafia ties, So it

2002
01:44:01.680 --> 01:44:03.399
<v Speaker 4>makes sense that he would go to the mafia jail.

2003
01:44:04.520 --> 01:44:05.560
<v Speaker 4>That checks out to me too.

2004
01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:08.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's not like you had to be a you know,

2005
01:44:08.399 --> 01:44:10.520
<v Speaker 2>a murderer to get sent here. You just had to

2006
01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:14.319
<v Speaker 2>be high profile enough most people didn't know who Tartaglione was,

2007
01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>but that didn't mean that he didn't have connections that

2008
01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:19.439
<v Speaker 2>could make sure that he went to a pleasant prison

2009
01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:21.640
<v Speaker 2>to serve out his life sentences.

2010
01:44:22.279 --> 01:44:24.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if they knew that Epstein was going to

2011
01:44:24.600 --> 01:44:28.560
<v Speaker 3>go down eventually, or it was all you know, premeditated

2012
01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:32.399
<v Speaker 3>and planned out. You know, if this guy didn't nobody

2013
01:44:32.439 --> 01:44:35.920
<v Speaker 3>knew him. He's just a lonely, low bottom feeding cop.

2014
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:39.119
<v Speaker 3>How he ended up there specifically.

2015
01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:41.560
<v Speaker 4>Could all be a part of a plan. I'm with

2016
01:44:41.560 --> 01:44:42.279
<v Speaker 4>you one hundred percent.

2017
01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:46.159
<v Speaker 2>In July of twenty nineteen, Tartaglione shared a Manhattan jail

2018
01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:49.560
<v Speaker 2>cell with Epstein when the financier was placed on suicide

2019
01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:54.640
<v Speaker 2>watch after being discovered with bruises on his neck. Epstein

2020
01:44:55.199 --> 01:44:59.079
<v Speaker 2>allegedly hung himself weeks later while waiting trial.

2021
01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:00.720
<v Speaker 4>On his charges for hi ex trafficking.

2022
01:45:01.319 --> 01:45:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, Now, before we get to the news

2023
01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:08.560
<v Speaker 2>article or the news clip that's gonna be talking about

2024
01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:10.840
<v Speaker 2>this in particular, I do want to mention of the

2025
01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>three or the two co conspirators. One of them is

2026
01:45:13.680 --> 01:45:16.560
<v Speaker 2>serving life in jail right now, last named Biggs. The

2027
01:45:16.680 --> 01:45:19.359
<v Speaker 2>other one is on this article from the Daily Mail

2028
01:45:19.640 --> 01:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>weightlifter and former NYPD officer known as White Rhino shoots

2029
01:45:24.199 --> 01:45:27.359
<v Speaker 2>himself dead after he was pulled over by the FBI

2030
01:45:27.560 --> 01:45:32.880
<v Speaker 2>in connection with a quadruple murder. Gerald Benderoff, forty eight,

2031
01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:37.680
<v Speaker 2>killed himself Wednesday morning in Haverstahl, New York. Multiple sources

2032
01:45:37.720 --> 01:45:40.760
<v Speaker 2>said law enforcement sources side of his friendship with the

2033
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:44.479
<v Speaker 2>excott Nicholas Tartaglione, who was charged with a quadruple murder

2034
01:45:44.560 --> 01:45:47.800
<v Speaker 2>last year. Benderoth spent more than ten years at the

2035
01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:51.079
<v Speaker 2>NYPD and was a nine to eleven responder.

2036
01:45:51.840 --> 01:45:54.039
<v Speaker 4>Decided to be quote unquote big.

2037
01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:57.279
<v Speaker 2>And strong age thirteen after watching Conan the Barbarian and

2038
01:45:57.319 --> 01:46:00.159
<v Speaker 2>his diet included beer as soon as he woke up

2039
01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and a dozen eggs in one sitting.

2040
01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:07.760
<v Speaker 3>That's an interesting combo, but also Cony and the Barbarian

2041
01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:08.760
<v Speaker 3>one of the best movies.

2042
01:46:09.079 --> 01:46:09.479
<v Speaker 4>Agreed.

2043
01:46:09.600 --> 01:46:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Agreed, So this dude, whenever I tell you he was

2044
01:46:11.800 --> 01:46:15.600
<v Speaker 2>a massive human being, the White Rhino, three hundred and

2045
01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:17.199
<v Speaker 2>sixty pounds strong man.

2046
01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:19.079
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

2047
01:46:19.319 --> 01:46:21.399
<v Speaker 2>He competed in the Highland Games. You'll find a lot

2048
01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:23.760
<v Speaker 2>of pictures of him in a kilt, throwing the hammer

2049
01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:27.359
<v Speaker 2>or tossing cabers. I don't know how many people watch

2050
01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:28.359
<v Speaker 2>the Highland Games.

2051
01:46:28.399 --> 01:46:31.760
<v Speaker 4>I sure do. Tossing a caber is flipping a telephone

2052
01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:34.760
<v Speaker 4>pole end over end, and you are judged based off

2053
01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:36.800
<v Speaker 4>of how straight it lands once it flips.

2054
01:46:37.960 --> 01:46:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Not just anybody's gonna bear hug a telephone pole and

2055
01:46:41.479 --> 01:46:43.439
<v Speaker 2>lob that bitch up. You have to be a pretty

2056
01:46:43.479 --> 01:46:46.840
<v Speaker 2>stout motherfucker stowing that album. So three hundred and sixty

2057
01:46:46.840 --> 01:46:49.520
<v Speaker 2>pounds strong man and former NYPD cop known in the

2058
01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:52.439
<v Speaker 2>weightlifting world as White Rhino, killed himself Wednesday after being

2059
01:46:52.439 --> 01:46:56.399
<v Speaker 2>pulled over by the FBI. Let's see we talked about Haverstall.

2060
01:46:56.680 --> 01:46:59.079
<v Speaker 2>He was stopped in Haverstall, New York, around eight twenty

2061
01:46:59.199 --> 01:47:02.600
<v Speaker 2>a m. He shot and killed himself as officials approached

2062
01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:06.479
<v Speaker 2>the vehicle. Law enforcement sources cited Benderrofth's close friendship with

2063
01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the former cop Nicholas tartagleone. We talked about that one already.

2064
01:47:10.079 --> 01:47:13.439
<v Speaker 2>The avid weightlifter who was once filmed hoisting an eight

2065
01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:16.880
<v Speaker 2>hundred pounds Barbell, decided he would be big and strong

2066
01:47:17.119 --> 01:47:20.399
<v Speaker 2>after watching Conan the Barbarian. His law enforcement career, like

2067
01:47:20.439 --> 01:47:23.039
<v Speaker 2>I said, ten years in the NYPD, during which he

2068
01:47:23.279 --> 01:47:28.119
<v Speaker 2>was a nine to eleven first responder, continue on the article.

2069
01:47:28.439 --> 01:47:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Authorities didn't confirm why Benderoth had been pulled over, but

2070
01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:35.520
<v Speaker 2>told the North Rockland Daily Voice about his relationship with Tartagleone.

2071
01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Tartagleone a fellow weightlifter. We already talked about the charges

2072
01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:41.279
<v Speaker 2>he was arrested for in the December prior to this.

2073
01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:45.239
<v Speaker 2>The former cop has been charged by the US Attorney

2074
01:47:45.319 --> 01:47:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Pett Bajara's office with a participation in a conspiracy to

2075
01:47:49.439 --> 01:47:54.319
<v Speaker 2>distribute five kilos or more of cocaine and the senseless

2076
01:47:54.399 --> 01:47:58.000
<v Speaker 2>murders of four men. Tartaglione was previously involved in a

2077
01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:01.319
<v Speaker 2>feud with TV host Clay Tiffin, who accused the ex

2078
01:48:01.399 --> 01:48:05.279
<v Speaker 2>officer of assaulting him before earning a one million dollar settlement.

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01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:09.199
<v Speaker 4>I think that this so he got more. I feel

2080
01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:10.520
<v Speaker 4>like this report might have.

2081
01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Some information incorrect on that one, because everything else we

2082
01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:18.319
<v Speaker 2>say we found said two hundred K. Now, I don't

2083
01:48:18.359 --> 01:48:21.600
<v Speaker 2>know how much of that too, the amount the lawyers took,

2084
01:48:21.720 --> 01:48:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and maybe after it was all said and done, he

2085
01:48:23.880 --> 01:48:24.840
<v Speaker 2>got two hundred K.

2086
01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:28.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. This is the first time I've ever

2087
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:30.720
<v Speaker 4>seen that Klay Tiffany was awarded a million dollars.

2088
01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:34.239
<v Speaker 2>But all right, so it is unclear how Benderroth might

2089
01:48:34.279 --> 01:48:36.600
<v Speaker 2>have been connected to the case, but the FBI declined

2090
01:48:36.600 --> 01:48:39.039
<v Speaker 2>to identify the strong Man, but confirmed that The New

2091
01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:42.239
<v Speaker 2>York Post that someone had committed suicide but after being

2092
01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:45.039
<v Speaker 2>stopped is that the current in a residential street not

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<v Speaker 2>far from an elementary school.

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<v Speaker 4>Benderroth recounted in.

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<v Speaker 2>A twenty twelve video how he watched Okay, we're talked

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<v Speaker 2>about Coden the Barbarian, continuing on do you there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of pictures.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just like skipping over on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Benderoff, who placed high in three American straw Man competitions

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<v Speaker 2>between twenty or two thousand and six and two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight, was named the tenth strongest bodybuilder in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States in two thousand and eight. He appeared in

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty ten clip lifting one hundred and eighty five

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<v Speaker 2>pounds with just one arm. The straw Man, who load

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<v Speaker 2>the word diet and deemed it worse than the sea word,

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<v Speaker 2>fueled his muscles with a daily shake of protein powder, oatmeal, oatmeal, milk,

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<v Speaker 2>and banana.

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<v Speaker 4>It's crazy that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going in on his like diet and talking about

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<v Speaker 2>his straw man shit when it's like bro he literally

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<v Speaker 2>dropped one of these people and shot him in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the head to cover up for his boy

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<v Speaker 2>and then buried him in a shallow grave.

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<v Speaker 4>And the daily they're they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like treating him like he's some just this fantastic person

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<v Speaker 3>that just happened to kill themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's some of these sources, you know. They it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of wild to me, Like you're you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about a murder's daily routine, Like good for him, No,

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01:49:58.760 --> 01:50:02.319
<v Speaker 3>he still killed people for literally no reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, we have more important things to discuss as far

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<v Speaker 2>as this particular gentleman is concerned. But yes, please tell

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<v Speaker 2>me his workout routine, what inspired him to get into lifting,

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<v Speaker 2>and what his daily diet consisted.

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<v Speaker 3>Of, like what bro his accomplishments, his awards, Like we

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<v Speaker 3>need to know all of this because clearly he's an

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<v Speaker 3>American hero who murdered a dude who murdered people, helped

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<v Speaker 3>bury three other people, like.

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<v Speaker 4>And was a coke dealer. Confirmed. Yeah, so sure.

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<v Speaker 3>He was letting people live their truth. Okay, obviously by

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<v Speaker 3>helping them get high.

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<v Speaker 4>Goddamn American hero.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a fucking hero, Okay, live in the bestest.

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<v Speaker 4>Just doing his thing. You know anyway. So now I

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<v Speaker 4>want to go ahead and play this clip from twelve News,

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<v Speaker 4>the exclusive Nicholas Tartaglion breaks his silence ahead of murder sentencing.

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<v Speaker 4>This was years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it was only posted a YouTube about a year ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but this was actually closer like seven or eight years

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<v Speaker 2>ago as a time of recording. So let's hear from

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<v Speaker 2>the man himself what he has to say about the

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<v Speaker 2>whole situation. It's it's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 8>To a new twelve exclusive. Right now, a former Westchester

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<v Speaker 8>police officer facing back to back sentences for killing four

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<v Speaker 8>men in Orange County is breaking his silence in a

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<v Speaker 8>first ever interview since his arrest, and this is just

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<v Speaker 8>days before sentencing. Our Blaze Gomez has the interview with

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<v Speaker 8>Nicholas Tartaglione.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I happy evidence to get me home.

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<v Speaker 9>Nicholas Tartaglione has spent eight years behind bars for murders

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<v Speaker 9>he says he didn't commit cos I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I was running an animal rescue organization. That's who I am.

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<v Speaker 9>The former Briarcliffe man Or police officer was found guilty

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<v Speaker 9>by a jury last year in the killings of four

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<v Speaker 9>migrants in Orange County News twelve spoke to him Thursday

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<v Speaker 9>by phone from inside the Manhattan Correctional Center in his

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<v Speaker 9>last ditch effort to change the outcome of his case.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 9>Were you involved in it?

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<v Speaker 3>The only involvement I had in this was Marcos.

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<v Speaker 4>And Martin asked me if I knew anybody that could

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<v Speaker 4>help them find somebody that stole money.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, here's this guy, and I gave him

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<v Speaker 3>Bender Wilf's.

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<v Speaker 4>Number, and I gave him big number.

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<v Speaker 9>Prosecutors say Tartaglione planned the murders with accomplices Marcos Cruz,

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<v Speaker 9>Gerard Betteroth, Joseph Biggs, and Jason Sullivan.

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<v Speaker 3>They say the.

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<v Speaker 9>Killing stemmed from soured plans to start a cocaine dealing

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<v Speaker 9>business with one of the victims. He was convicted of

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<v Speaker 9>strangling one victim at his brother's bar in Chester and

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<v Speaker 9>shooting another execution style at his property in Mount Hope,

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<v Speaker 9>where the men were found buried by FBI.

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<v Speaker 4>The truth will come out if the jury was able

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<v Speaker 4>to see what we had my beharm right now.

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<v Speaker 9>Tartaglione alleges witnesses lied on the stand and says his

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<v Speaker 9>former attorney didn't present evidence that would show he's innocent.

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<v Speaker 9>He says, prosecutors used videos and recordings that were altered.

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<v Speaker 9>Tartaglione has hired a new defense team and is appealing

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<v Speaker 9>for a set trial, prosecute or describe the killings among

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<v Speaker 9>the most vile, horrific crimes imaginable Blaize Gomez News twelve.

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<v Speaker 8>So.

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<v Speaker 4>I also find it interesting that the bar that they

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<v Speaker 4>were supposed to meet up at was owned by his brother,

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<v Speaker 4>tartag the own's brother owned that bar.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was clear that he premeditated this suation.

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<v Speaker 3>He planned it out, but planned it out so poorly,

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<v Speaker 3>especially for a cop.

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<v Speaker 4>And then drops names on his co conspirators, his brothers

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<v Speaker 4>by the law and all that drops their names like

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<v Speaker 4>it ain't shit, Joseph Biggs, this is gone over here,

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<v Speaker 4>is like, Bro, you a snitch and a dirty cop.

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<v Speaker 4>You ain't worth a fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he's he's definitely in piece of shit human being.

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<v Speaker 3>And the fact that they did it so poorly though,

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<v Speaker 3>you said they were all cops. Yes, at one point,

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<v Speaker 3>so they were all cops and they all fucked this

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<v Speaker 3>up that badly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they were all cops with years of experience. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like this was a new guy on the force.

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<v Speaker 2>They were also all bodybuilders. That's another way that this

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<v Speaker 2>group got together on this who all decided to get

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<v Speaker 2>involved in the cocaine business and then couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how to cover up a murder.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even understand, like the two plus two is

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<v Speaker 3>not equally four in this situation.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of, but I mean even still, it's all the

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<v Speaker 2>evidence points to that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Like these dudes who you would think would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be smart enough to cover their tracks, hide the bodies better, dispose.

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<v Speaker 4>Of them better.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do it on your own land, don't do it

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<v Speaker 2>at an establishment where there's video, security cameras, all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>There shouldn't be any clear motive. You should maybe get

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<v Speaker 2>an outside source to do this dirt for you. There's

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<v Speaker 2>so many levels of how an actual criminal knows how

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<v Speaker 2>to do things. And these guys who were cops, now, granted,

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<v Speaker 2>whenever I say that they were cops, we know for

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<v Speaker 2>sure the tartag leone was dirty start to finish. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if these other cops were dirty start to finish.

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<v Speaker 2>And because they were, they weren't like actual cops, like

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<v Speaker 2>they wore a badge that you know, clocked in. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like they were actually like investigators who worked cases.

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<v Speaker 4>They were more or less just like hired muscle, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. So like maybe they really were

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<v Speaker 4>that bad at their jobs as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I still stand by my theory. I'm gonna stand

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<v Speaker 3>by tripling down on it.

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<v Speaker 4>You think tartag Leone is innocent.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, God, no. I think that they were. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that he's planted for future Ebstein. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>they knew the seat. I don't know. If we're thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about project looking at glass, then they know already what's

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen. I don't know. It just seems weirdly coincidental.

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<v Speaker 3>And all the ties with Trump and the cell situation

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<v Speaker 3>and him going to that specific prison and when reality

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<v Speaker 3>he should have just been thrown in a normal prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Why that?

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<v Speaker 3>Why that one? I mean, he's not that deep into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that I could envision a world hypothetically,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, where the FBI knows a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>More than they let on, you know, a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>And because of that, it's possible that they knew that

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<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione was dealing coke. They knew that he had killed

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<v Speaker 2>these people who tipped off the FBI because allegedly these

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<v Speaker 2>were migrants.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know if they were even legal nephew.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe so because it's so okay, so white,

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<v Speaker 3>that's who the white rhino died correcked. He took his

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<v Speaker 3>own life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he took his own life whenever the FBI

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<v Speaker 2>got to his car.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So who else was involved in it? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>A dude named Joseph Biggs, and there was another name

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<v Speaker 2>that they just dropped a second to go, But I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't find anything to say that they actually ever convicted

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<v Speaker 2>him or arrested him or what. Biggs is also in.

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<v Speaker 3>Jail though, Okay, maybe it was the other guy, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it was the nephew. Maybe even still, what would you

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<v Speaker 3>what would you get from that?

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<v Speaker 6>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand what why we and then give that

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<v Speaker 3>information up? Why was he investigated? I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't just coincidences, so find kind of odd.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering if to your point, they wanted this guy

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the same prison as Epstein and they

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01:57:36.920 --> 01:57:40.399
<v Speaker 2>wanted him to be forced to do some dirt for

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<v Speaker 2>them to silence Epstein.

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<v Speaker 4>So on that kind of a vibe here, m hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>If the FBI already.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew that he was guilty of dealing coke, they had

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<v Speaker 2>already done an investigation on him years prior because of

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<v Speaker 2>Clay Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 4>So they know this dude is.

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<v Speaker 2>Mobbed up, they know he's dirty, all these things already,

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01:57:57.239 --> 01:58:01.039
<v Speaker 2>there's a file on him, and so they've find out that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he did some deals and he murdered some people. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't initially arrest him. They had to get things

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<v Speaker 2>in line, so to speak. We waited exactly. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that anybody tipped them off. They already knew about it.

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01:58:15.359 --> 01:58:18.560
<v Speaker 2>They were deciding when it was time to arrest him

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01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:20.720
<v Speaker 2>and everything because they needed all the chips to fall

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<v Speaker 2>into place at the right time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. I just think that there is more to this

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<v Speaker 3>than what we're gonna be able to find on the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>So now let's get into the Epstein situation here. This

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<v Speaker 2>is from CBS News the night Jeffrey Epstein claimed his

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<v Speaker 2>cellmate tried to kill him. Okay, Jeffrey Epstein lay in

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<v Speaker 2>the fetal position on the floor of his jail, Celle

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<v Speaker 2>unresponsive with an orange fabric noose tied around his neck.

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<v Speaker 2>The post midnight quiet of the Metropolitan Correctional Center secure

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<v Speaker 2>housing unit was punctured as a corrections officer called for help.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one twenty on July twenty third, twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen days before Epstein's death. He was breathing, his eyes

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<v Speaker 2>open and shutting occasionally, but he wouldn't or couldn't respond

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<v Speaker 2>to officers questions and commands. According to a confidential corrections

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<v Speaker 2>officer's memo obtained by CBS News, they hoisted inmate seven

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01:59:21.079 --> 01:59:24.439
<v Speaker 2>six three one eight dash zero five to four onto

2304
01:59:24.479 --> 01:59:25.000
<v Speaker 2>a stretcher.

2305
01:59:25.079 --> 01:59:26.159
<v Speaker 4>That's Epstein, by the way.

2306
01:59:26.520 --> 01:59:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Federal officers have repeatedly said Epstein's eventual death by suicide

2307
01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:34.399
<v Speaker 2>was foreshadowed by this earlier alleged attempt. Former Attorney General

2308
01:59:34.439 --> 01:59:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Bill Barr reiterated that the claim in an August closed

2309
01:59:37.600 --> 01:59:40.840
<v Speaker 2>door deposition before the House Oversight Committee, which released the

2310
01:59:40.920 --> 01:59:44.279
<v Speaker 2>interview transcripts last week. Barr, who did not reply to

2311
01:59:44.359 --> 01:59:47.159
<v Speaker 2>questions from CBS News, said in his testimony he knew

2312
01:59:47.199 --> 01:59:51.039
<v Speaker 2>about the July twenty third incident, which he viewed as

2313
01:59:51.079 --> 01:59:55.279
<v Speaker 2>an attempted suicide. Barr he said he is considered he

2314
01:59:55.359 --> 01:59:59.000
<v Speaker 2>considered it indicative of Epstein's state of mind. But jail

2315
01:59:59.039 --> 02:00:02.800
<v Speaker 2>staff memos and other new, never before reported documents obtained

2316
02:00:02.800 --> 02:00:05.479
<v Speaker 2>by CBS News, as well as interviews with more than

2317
02:00:05.520 --> 02:00:08.399
<v Speaker 2>a dozen people who interacted with Epstein before and after

2318
02:00:08.439 --> 02:00:11.720
<v Speaker 2>the incident, revealed a murkier picture than the one depicted

2319
02:00:11.800 --> 02:00:16.079
<v Speaker 2>by bar Shocker. The new documents of surface amid persistent

2320
02:00:16.119 --> 02:00:20.119
<v Speaker 2>speculation over Epstein's death, despite officials conclusions that he died

2321
02:00:20.119 --> 02:00:23.920
<v Speaker 2>by suicide. As Corrections officers entered Epstein's cell on July

2322
02:00:24.000 --> 02:00:26.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty third, they were greeted by a chaotic scene. According

2323
02:00:26.960 --> 02:00:29.520
<v Speaker 2>to a source close to the investigation, He's laying on

2324
02:00:29.560 --> 02:00:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the floor and his bunkie is screaming.

2325
02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:32.760
<v Speaker 4>I did nothing.

2326
02:00:32.840 --> 02:00:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I banged on the door to get him out of

2327
02:00:34.600 --> 02:00:38.199
<v Speaker 2>the cell, the source said. Corrections officers carried Epstein to

2328
02:00:38.199 --> 02:00:41.840
<v Speaker 2>a cell on a different floor as he remained unresponsive.

2329
02:00:42.239 --> 02:00:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Moments after becoming alert, Epstein gave officers his first account

2330
02:00:45.920 --> 02:00:49.119
<v Speaker 2>of what happened. The record show he told them he

2331
02:00:49.239 --> 02:00:52.119
<v Speaker 2>thought he had been attacked by his cellmate, an ex

2332
02:00:52.239 --> 02:00:55.600
<v Speaker 2>cop who was awaiting trial on four murders.

2333
02:00:57.039 --> 02:00:58.800
<v Speaker 3>He thought or he did.

2334
02:01:00.039 --> 02:01:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Epstein's admission was that his cellmate attacked him and tried

2335
02:01:05.039 --> 02:01:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to strangle him, but the official report says that Epstein

2336
02:01:10.039 --> 02:01:13.840
<v Speaker 2>had an attempted suicide with a cellmate sitting right there.

2337
02:01:15.760 --> 02:01:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, because that makes a whole bunch of sense,

2338
02:01:19.560 --> 02:01:21.359
<v Speaker 3>a whole bunch of especially when you don't want to

2339
02:01:21.359 --> 02:01:24.600
<v Speaker 3>get charged for murder inside of the cell.

2340
02:01:25.079 --> 02:01:28.239
<v Speaker 4>Which he's already about to get convicted for four murders,

2341
02:01:28.640 --> 02:01:30.159
<v Speaker 4>like he hadn't been sentenced at this point.

2342
02:01:30.199 --> 02:01:33.039
<v Speaker 2>But he knew what was up. It was guaranteed that

2343
02:01:33.079 --> 02:01:36.960
<v Speaker 2>this was going to go down. But sure, okay, it

2344
02:01:37.000 --> 02:01:40.560
<v Speaker 2>was clearly an attempt at suicide. Nothing more to look at.

2345
02:01:40.600 --> 02:01:42.359
<v Speaker 3>There, nothing to see here.

2346
02:01:42.920 --> 02:01:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Continuing, he said, he sat up on the bed and

2347
02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:48.119
<v Speaker 2>began telling me that he thinks his bunkie tried to

2348
02:01:48.199 --> 02:01:48.640
<v Speaker 2>kill him.

2349
02:01:48.880 --> 02:01:50.439
<v Speaker 4>A responding officer wrote in a memo.

2350
02:01:50.880 --> 02:01:53.760
<v Speaker 2>They kept changing the words too, like, obviously he said, no,

2351
02:01:53.800 --> 02:01:54.840
<v Speaker 2>that fucker tried to kill me.

2352
02:01:54.880 --> 02:01:58.439
<v Speaker 4>But they're like, so you think he tried to kill you?

2353
02:01:58.479 --> 02:02:01.199
<v Speaker 2>No, he tried to Okay, so you think you remember

2354
02:02:01.399 --> 02:02:03.279
<v Speaker 2>that he No, I didn't think it, I know it.

2355
02:02:03.479 --> 02:02:05.319
<v Speaker 4>So we're gonna write down that he thinks it.

2356
02:02:05.720 --> 02:02:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Bro that doesn't make any sense. You either know there's

2357
02:02:09.319 --> 02:02:12.640
<v Speaker 3>two of you in a cell, either you try to

2358
02:02:12.720 --> 02:02:16.319
<v Speaker 3>kill yourself or your cellmate tried to kill you.

2359
02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:19.680
<v Speaker 2>A senior officer wrote in a separate incident report that

2360
02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Epstein initially implicated his cellmate in the incident, claiming he

2361
02:02:23.479 --> 02:02:28.800
<v Speaker 2>had previously said things that made Epstein feel threatened. So okay.

2362
02:02:30.439 --> 02:02:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Epstein would later back off the claim, saying instead that

2363
02:02:33.399 --> 02:02:37.960
<v Speaker 2>he couldn't remember what happened. Nicholas Tartaglione, the cellmate, has

2364
02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:40.800
<v Speaker 2>repeatedly disputed the initial allegation and said he tried to

2365
02:02:40.840 --> 02:02:43.359
<v Speaker 2>revive Epstein right when they walked in.

2366
02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:45.840
<v Speaker 4>He was over here trying to give him, you know, CPR.

2367
02:02:46.680 --> 02:02:53.319
<v Speaker 4>He was awake, mouth, yeah, yeah, he as with Epstein's

2368
02:02:53.319 --> 02:02:55.880
<v Speaker 4>eventual death. Any camera footage of the incident was either

2369
02:02:56.079 --> 02:03:00.399
<v Speaker 4>mislaid or lost or never captured by the facilities falty

2370
02:03:00.520 --> 02:03:05.359
<v Speaker 4>system right. Tartaglione has not responded to emailed questions from

2371
02:03:05.399 --> 02:03:08.640
<v Speaker 4>CBS News. His lawyer said Epstein's initial claim that Tartaglione

2372
02:03:08.680 --> 02:03:12.359
<v Speaker 4>tried to kill him was flatly not true. He saved

2373
02:03:12.359 --> 02:03:14.880
<v Speaker 4>his life the first time, said Inga Parsons.

2374
02:03:14.920 --> 02:03:17.760
<v Speaker 2>The attorney Tartaglione said in a recent interview with the

2375
02:03:17.800 --> 02:03:21.640
<v Speaker 2>podcast House and Habit that Epstein also left a suicide

2376
02:03:21.680 --> 02:03:24.399
<v Speaker 2>note and had even offered Tartaglione money.

2377
02:03:24.119 --> 02:03:25.560
<v Speaker 4>To kill him.

2378
02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:32.439
<v Speaker 2>So wait what So at first they get there, Epstein's

2379
02:03:32.479 --> 02:03:37.479
<v Speaker 2>clearly shook up and he's got a fabric noose made

2380
02:03:37.520 --> 02:03:40.000
<v Speaker 2>around his neck, and the Selly's like, I.

2381
02:03:39.920 --> 02:03:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Didn't do anything.

2382
02:03:41.000 --> 02:03:43.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't do shit I was And then it was, well,

2383
02:03:43.359 --> 02:03:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to revive him. Now it's he left

2384
02:03:46.920 --> 02:03:49.079
<v Speaker 2>a suicide note and even tried to hire me to

2385
02:03:49.159 --> 02:03:49.680
<v Speaker 2>kill him.

2386
02:03:50.680 --> 02:03:53.520
<v Speaker 3>But what I like, how it just kept changing. And

2387
02:03:53.960 --> 02:03:57.920
<v Speaker 3>wasn't it like two or three of the people that

2388
02:03:58.039 --> 02:04:03.119
<v Speaker 3>committed quote unquote suicide that seniors had the silk ropes

2389
02:04:03.159 --> 02:04:03.840
<v Speaker 3>around their neck.

2390
02:04:04.239 --> 02:04:04.640
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

2391
02:04:05.319 --> 02:04:07.399
<v Speaker 3>I think there's more than three, to be honest with you,

2392
02:04:07.479 --> 02:04:10.479
<v Speaker 3>I probably I believe there's a It was its own

2393
02:04:10.520 --> 02:04:12.840
<v Speaker 3>conspiracy in and of itself, like it's a certain way

2394
02:04:12.880 --> 02:04:16.760
<v Speaker 3>that you die by strangulation. When it comes to having

2395
02:04:16.760 --> 02:04:19.319
<v Speaker 3>this silk around their neck.

2396
02:04:19.479 --> 02:04:21.880
<v Speaker 2>To be fair white and silk. It was like either

2397
02:04:21.880 --> 02:04:24.399
<v Speaker 2>their bed sheets or a jumpsuit. It was some type

2398
02:04:24.399 --> 02:04:26.199
<v Speaker 2>of fabric that they had, well.

2399
02:04:26.079 --> 02:04:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I know, but the other ones I was talking about

2400
02:04:27.960 --> 02:04:32.640
<v Speaker 3>had silk and different weird things. But maybe they just

2401
02:04:33.439 --> 02:04:35.800
<v Speaker 3>ritual ritualistic sacrificed him.

2402
02:04:36.520 --> 02:04:38.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, seeing is how he had a temple on

2403
02:04:38.239 --> 02:04:40.479
<v Speaker 2>his island where I guarantee there was other types of

2404
02:04:40.520 --> 02:04:41.560
<v Speaker 2>rituals being performed.

2405
02:04:42.039 --> 02:04:42.840
<v Speaker 4>Hey, why not?

2406
02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:46.439
<v Speaker 2>You know makes sense anyway, It says Neither of those details,

2407
02:04:46.520 --> 02:04:49.960
<v Speaker 2>if true, are referenced in any of the Bureau of Prisons.

2408
02:04:49.560 --> 02:04:51.840
<v Speaker 4>Records that were reviewed by CBS News.

2409
02:04:52.119 --> 02:04:55.239
<v Speaker 2>So this whole conversation about how you know there was

2410
02:04:55.239 --> 02:04:58.079
<v Speaker 2>a suicide note and he offered tartag the own money

2411
02:04:58.119 --> 02:04:59.199
<v Speaker 2>and none.

2412
02:04:59.039 --> 02:05:00.840
<v Speaker 4>Of that's on the record whatsoever.

2413
02:05:01.520 --> 02:05:05.720
<v Speaker 2>News outlets have reported previously on Epstein's allegation and investigator's

2414
02:05:05.720 --> 02:05:09.760
<v Speaker 2>conclusion or lack thereof, about the incident. Epstein expressed concern

2415
02:05:09.960 --> 02:05:12.720
<v Speaker 2>about his cellmate the day before the incident, according to

2416
02:05:12.760 --> 02:05:14.800
<v Speaker 2>a corrections memo and a source who agreed to speak

2417
02:05:14.840 --> 02:05:17.439
<v Speaker 2>with CBS News on the condition that they not be identified.

2418
02:05:17.800 --> 02:05:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Epstein claimed to both the corrections officers and the source

2419
02:05:20.640 --> 02:05:24.319
<v Speaker 2>that he felt threatened bar Tartaglion, a hulking retired cop

2420
02:05:24.399 --> 02:05:27.319
<v Speaker 2>turned drug dealer who was charged and later convicted for

2421
02:05:27.359 --> 02:05:30.560
<v Speaker 2>four murders. Epstein said the officer or said to the

2422
02:05:30.560 --> 02:05:34.159
<v Speaker 2>officer that he hadn't previously been comfortable reporting the alleged

2423
02:05:34.239 --> 02:05:37.800
<v Speaker 2>threat because, quote, his bunkie told him that if he

2424
02:05:38.399 --> 02:05:40.600
<v Speaker 2>if he beat him up because of the you know,

2425
02:05:41.039 --> 02:05:44.159
<v Speaker 2>che sex, trafficking in things charges, the officer would.

2426
02:05:43.960 --> 02:05:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Not report it, which, to be fair, Yeah, that's sir,

2427
02:05:48.960 --> 02:05:51.920
<v Speaker 4>that is how things go down in prison. Absolutely.

2428
02:05:52.840 --> 02:05:56.159
<v Speaker 2>The wealthy former financier told a jail officer that he

2429
02:05:56.239 --> 02:05:59.279
<v Speaker 2>believed Tartaglione was trying to extort money from him and

2430
02:05:59.359 --> 02:06:02.319
<v Speaker 2>stated that he he didn't pay him, if he didn't

2431
02:06:02.319 --> 02:06:04.880
<v Speaker 2>pay him, that he would beat him up. He stated

2432
02:06:04.920 --> 02:06:10.039
<v Speaker 2>that this has been going on for a week, so okay,

2433
02:06:10.680 --> 02:06:12.159
<v Speaker 2>maybe he was trying to get a little.

2434
02:06:11.920 --> 02:06:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Extra he he just fell like on a bar soap

2435
02:06:15.640 --> 02:06:15.960
<v Speaker 3>in there.

2436
02:06:16.520 --> 02:06:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Possibly he was trying to get a little bit more

2437
02:06:18.960 --> 02:06:21.319
<v Speaker 2>money out of Epstein before the murder took place.

2438
02:06:22.720 --> 02:06:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist. I

2439
02:06:25.000 --> 02:06:25.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know.

2440
02:06:26.520 --> 02:06:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Epstein told a different officer that they on the eve

2441
02:06:29.319 --> 02:06:32.359
<v Speaker 2>of July, or on the eve of the July incident,

2442
02:06:32.560 --> 02:06:34.359
<v Speaker 2>his cell may had gotten a hold of a copy

2443
02:06:34.439 --> 02:06:39.600
<v Speaker 2>of New York Daily News. Epstein former financial advisor, confidante

2444
02:06:39.760 --> 02:06:42.359
<v Speaker 2>to some of the world's most powerful people, and prolific

2445
02:06:42.439 --> 02:06:45.600
<v Speaker 2>sex abuser of girls and young women, said Tartaglion, and

2446
02:06:45.600 --> 02:06:48.399
<v Speaker 2>pointed to a story about Epstein in the paper. Tartaglion

2447
02:06:48.479 --> 02:06:51.479
<v Speaker 2>said it placed his net worth at seventy seven million dollars.

2448
02:06:51.520 --> 02:06:55.039
<v Speaker 2>According to Epstein, that figure instead matches a value for

2449
02:06:55.119 --> 02:06:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Epstein's New York mansion, cited in multiple articles in the

2450
02:06:58.560 --> 02:06:59.199
<v Speaker 2>paper that month.

2451
02:06:59.279 --> 02:07:01.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was worth way more than seventy seven million.

2452
02:07:01.560 --> 02:07:07.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, one billion just transferred for quote unquote sex things. Yeah,

2453
02:07:08.039 --> 02:07:10.920
<v Speaker 3>they released so, I mean, and I still believe, honestly,

2454
02:07:10.960 --> 02:07:13.199
<v Speaker 3>that's such a low number. I think they had hidden

2455
02:07:13.199 --> 02:07:18.439
<v Speaker 3>offshore accounts. I think, honestly, Epstein was worth billions of dollars.

2456
02:07:18.319 --> 02:07:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Right so, Epstein said. He crumpled up the article and

2457
02:07:21.680 --> 02:07:24.279
<v Speaker 2>threw it out and turned in for bed. He told

2458
02:07:24.279 --> 02:07:26.399
<v Speaker 2>an officer he remembered waking up at one am to

2459
02:07:26.399 --> 02:07:28.640
<v Speaker 2>get a drink of water and walking back to his bed.

2460
02:07:28.840 --> 02:07:31.880
<v Speaker 2>The next thing he recalled, he said, was roughly half

2461
02:07:31.920 --> 02:07:34.680
<v Speaker 2>an hour later, when corrections officers rushed into his cell.

2462
02:07:35.239 --> 02:07:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Epstein initially said he thought he was attacked, but later equivocated.

2463
02:07:39.640 --> 02:07:41.560
<v Speaker 2>He has to be put back in the same cell

2464
02:07:41.600 --> 02:07:44.640
<v Speaker 2>with Tartaglione, according to a twenty twenty three report by

2465
02:07:44.680 --> 02:07:48.399
<v Speaker 2>the Department of Justice Inspector General, but also insisted he

2466
02:07:48.439 --> 02:07:50.640
<v Speaker 2>would never have tried to kill himself.

2467
02:07:53.680 --> 02:07:58.439
<v Speaker 3>So one or two giant red flags.

2468
02:07:58.279 --> 02:08:03.520
<v Speaker 4>Just a few fine, it's fine, everything's fine.

2469
02:08:03.800 --> 02:08:06.119
<v Speaker 2>After the incident, Epstein was moved to a room where

2470
02:08:06.119 --> 02:08:08.680
<v Speaker 2>he was placed on suicide watch and closely monitored for

2471
02:08:08.720 --> 02:08:11.680
<v Speaker 2>the next thirty one hours. In his first minutes there,

2472
02:08:11.720 --> 02:08:13.960
<v Speaker 2>he twice sat on the edge of the bed and

2473
02:08:14.039 --> 02:08:16.720
<v Speaker 2>began moving forward as if he was attempting to fall

2474
02:08:16.760 --> 02:08:17.560
<v Speaker 2>over head first.

2475
02:08:18.079 --> 02:08:19.960
<v Speaker 4>A corrections officer wrote.

2476
02:08:19.760 --> 02:08:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Told to stop, Epstein responded, okay, I won't do it again,

2477
02:08:23.119 --> 02:08:26.560
<v Speaker 2>and then gave the thumbs up and again, what source

2478
02:08:26.600 --> 02:08:27.399
<v Speaker 2>are we trusting on this?

2479
02:08:27.479 --> 02:08:29.159
<v Speaker 4>The source that has cameras that doesn't work.

2480
02:08:30.479 --> 02:08:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2481
02:08:30.920 --> 02:08:31.119
<v Speaker 4>Right.

2482
02:08:31.840 --> 02:08:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Another corrections officer assigned to watch over Epstein in the

2483
02:08:34.319 --> 02:08:37.880
<v Speaker 2>hours following the July twenty third incident was Michael Thomas.

2484
02:08:37.920 --> 02:08:40.840
<v Speaker 2>According to a document attained by CBS News, Thomas is

2485
02:08:40.840 --> 02:08:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the officer who discovered Epstein dead in his cell on

2486
02:08:43.560 --> 02:08:47.279
<v Speaker 2>August tenth, twenty nineteen. According to the Justice Department, he

2487
02:08:47.319 --> 02:08:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and another officer were later charged with falsifying documents related

2488
02:08:51.000 --> 02:08:54.800
<v Speaker 2>to the night of Epstein's death, but those charges were dropped.

2489
02:08:55.680 --> 02:08:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Shocker.

2490
02:08:56.760 --> 02:08:58.039
<v Speaker 3>What were they charged with?

2491
02:08:58.520 --> 02:09:00.319
<v Speaker 4>Falsifying documents?

2492
02:09:00.840 --> 02:09:03.159
<v Speaker 3>So just saying that he was alone in the cell.

2493
02:09:03.600 --> 02:09:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Basically they gave a eight They gave a narrative and

2494
02:09:07.600 --> 02:09:10.319
<v Speaker 2>that was proven to be false, so they were charged

2495
02:09:11.560 --> 02:09:13.319
<v Speaker 2>with that and then that those.

2496
02:09:13.239 --> 02:09:14.039
<v Speaker 4>Charges were dropped.

2497
02:09:15.640 --> 02:09:17.439
<v Speaker 3>Of course they were, of course right.

2498
02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Because Epstein was on suicide watch.

2499
02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:23.039
<v Speaker 2>After the July twenty third incident, Thomas was required to

2500
02:09:23.520 --> 02:09:27.880
<v Speaker 2>record a log of observations about Epstein in fifteen minute increments.

2501
02:09:28.319 --> 02:09:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Those notations were released by the Bureau of Prisons in

2502
02:09:30.680 --> 02:09:33.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, along with just one entry he made

2503
02:09:33.800 --> 02:09:36.880
<v Speaker 2>in the log, a note made at two fifteen am,

2504
02:09:37.000 --> 02:09:39.079
<v Speaker 2>forty five minutes after the incident.

2505
02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:40.920
<v Speaker 4>So basically they pencil whip the.

2506
02:09:40.920 --> 02:09:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Paperwork, which is illegal and it really didn't play out

2507
02:09:45.079 --> 02:09:48.159
<v Speaker 2>well for them. Fifteen minutes later, at two thirty am,

2508
02:09:48.239 --> 02:09:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Thomas wrote inmate, sitting on bed, trying to remember what

2509
02:09:51.920 --> 02:09:53.520
<v Speaker 2>happened on.

2510
02:09:53.399 --> 02:09:55.039
<v Speaker 4>The CBS news. They actually have.

2511
02:09:55.399 --> 02:09:59.239
<v Speaker 2>A print out or a carbon copy a photocopy of

2512
02:09:59.279 --> 02:09:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the logbook.

2513
02:10:00.399 --> 02:10:02.640
<v Speaker 4>The handwriting is atrocious. I can't even read it.

2514
02:10:02.680 --> 02:10:07.079
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, around that time, a correction supervisor was interviewing

2515
02:10:07.079 --> 02:10:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione about the incident. Tartagli Own said he had given

2516
02:10:10.279 --> 02:10:13.359
<v Speaker 2>the bottom bunk to Epstein because he was old the

2517
02:10:13.439 --> 02:10:16.640
<v Speaker 2>direct quote and had moved in had moved his own

2518
02:10:16.640 --> 02:10:19.800
<v Speaker 2>mattress to the floor. Tartagli Own set a corrections officer

2519
02:10:20.199 --> 02:10:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that he was sleeping with his headphones on when he

2520
02:10:22.920 --> 02:10:26.439
<v Speaker 2>felt something hit his leg. Jeff, what are you doing,

2521
02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione said, and he asked into the darkness. He said

2522
02:10:30.800 --> 02:10:33.479
<v Speaker 2>he turned on the light and found Epstein's sitting slumped

2523
02:10:33.520 --> 02:10:36.159
<v Speaker 2>on the floor, leaning to the side, with his eyes

2524
02:10:36.199 --> 02:10:39.479
<v Speaker 2>open but unresponsive, with fabricground his neck. According to another

2525
02:10:39.560 --> 02:10:43.560
<v Speaker 2>officer's memo, tartagli Own said he yelled for jail staff.

2526
02:10:43.840 --> 02:10:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Documents reviewed by CBS News did not indicate what steps

2527
02:10:47.039 --> 02:10:51.319
<v Speaker 2>jail staff took to investigate Epstein's allegations related to Tartaglione.

2528
02:10:51.479 --> 02:10:53.760
<v Speaker 2>In response to questions from CBS News, the Bureau of

2529
02:10:53.760 --> 02:10:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Prisons said that the agency does not provide information related

2530
02:10:56.600 --> 02:11:00.279
<v Speaker 2>to investigations which Okay, I could understand the jail as

2531
02:11:00.359 --> 02:11:04.680
<v Speaker 2>chief psychologist later speculated two investigators for the Inspector General

2532
02:11:04.960 --> 02:11:08.479
<v Speaker 2>that there were three possible explanations for the incident. In

2533
02:11:08.560 --> 02:11:12.159
<v Speaker 2>one version of events, she wrote, either Epstein or Tartag

2534
02:11:12.239 --> 02:11:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the owned were gaming the system to get something they wanted.

2535
02:11:15.800 --> 02:11:16.600
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay.

2536
02:11:17.680 --> 02:11:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Another explanation was that Epstein had conducted a rehearsal of

2537
02:11:21.239 --> 02:11:26.800
<v Speaker 2>his eventual suicide unlikely, and a third possibility was that,

2538
02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:31.159
<v Speaker 2>as Epstein initially claimed, he was assaulted. She told investigators

2539
02:11:31.159 --> 02:11:34.960
<v Speaker 2>that she considered the third scenario less plausible, although she

2540
02:11:35.039 --> 02:11:37.720
<v Speaker 2>did not know for certain. How was that the least

2541
02:11:37.720 --> 02:11:38.640
<v Speaker 2>plausible option.

2542
02:11:39.399 --> 02:11:43.159
<v Speaker 3>Didn't he have bruises on his neck? Yes, and he

2543
02:11:43.199 --> 02:11:44.439
<v Speaker 3>had broken bones?

2544
02:11:44.600 --> 02:11:48.319
<v Speaker 2>You're well he actually died or from this one?

2545
02:11:48.439 --> 02:11:50.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, he had bruises from this one, and then he

2546
02:11:50.199 --> 02:11:52.239
<v Speaker 3>had broken bones for the suicide.

2547
02:11:52.439 --> 02:11:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, And so again you're not gonna dry run this

2548
02:11:55.479 --> 02:11:57.760
<v Speaker 2>with your cellmate in the cell with you.

2549
02:12:00.039 --> 02:12:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Let's do a mock run really quick to make sure

2550
02:12:02.319 --> 02:12:04.760
<v Speaker 3>that I got it, like aok, and you know where

2551
02:12:04.800 --> 02:12:06.640
<v Speaker 3>you're going to be, and I know where I'm gonna

2552
02:12:06.680 --> 02:12:09.720
<v Speaker 3>be doing and like like in the dark, yeah, in

2553
02:12:09.760 --> 02:12:12.880
<v Speaker 3>the dark. Let's just practice it, okay, and keep.

2554
02:12:12.760 --> 02:12:15.920
<v Speaker 4>In mind he was on the bottom bunk, so like,

2555
02:12:16.439 --> 02:12:16.760
<v Speaker 4>you know.

2556
02:12:17.039 --> 02:12:19.279
<v Speaker 3>What does he need to practice?

2557
02:12:19.880 --> 02:12:22.479
<v Speaker 4>It makes no sense, None of it makes sense.

2558
02:12:22.680 --> 02:12:27.920
<v Speaker 2>It's infuriating anyway, continuing here, Epstein remained on suicide watch

2559
02:12:27.960 --> 02:12:31.760
<v Speaker 2>for a little more than a day. During that time,

2560
02:12:32.119 --> 02:12:36.159
<v Speaker 2>inmate volunteers kept logs briefly documenting check ins at fifteen

2561
02:12:36.239 --> 02:12:40.119
<v Speaker 2>minute intervals. The morning updates were largely mundane. In made

2562
02:12:40.159 --> 02:12:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Epstein pacing around, It made Epstein is hungry, and made Epstein.

2563
02:12:44.039 --> 02:12:47.760
<v Speaker 4>Wash his neck. By the next evening, he became more chatty.

2564
02:12:47.760 --> 02:12:51.119
<v Speaker 2>According to the logs, this direct quote here inmate Epstein

2565
02:12:51.479 --> 02:12:55.520
<v Speaker 2>is talking about finance. It made Epstein is talking about science,

2566
02:12:56.199 --> 02:12:59.079
<v Speaker 2>talking about math, and made Epstein is talking about the

2567
02:12:59.079 --> 02:13:02.840
<v Speaker 2>prison environment, talking about the experience teaching mathematics and physics,

2568
02:13:03.199 --> 02:13:06.520
<v Speaker 2>one volunteer wrote in successive updates. On the morning of

2569
02:13:06.600 --> 02:13:10.119
<v Speaker 2>July twenty fourth, Epstein's status was downgraded from suicide watch

2570
02:13:10.159 --> 02:13:14.640
<v Speaker 2>to psychological observation. That day, a regional administrator who oversaw

2571
02:13:14.720 --> 02:13:17.159
<v Speaker 2>more than a dozen jails and prisons asked for an

2572
02:13:17.199 --> 02:13:21.279
<v Speaker 2>explanation of the change inmates place under psychological observation. As

2573
02:13:21.319 --> 02:13:26.239
<v Speaker 2>opposed to suicide watch, were considered not imminently suicidal. One

2574
02:13:26.279 --> 02:13:29.840
<v Speaker 2>of the forensic psychologists told investigators it was quote not

2575
02:13:30.039 --> 02:13:32.920
<v Speaker 2>healthy for inmates to stay on suicide watch for extended

2576
02:13:32.920 --> 02:13:36.880
<v Speaker 2>periods of time end quote. She observed signs of positivity

2577
02:13:37.079 --> 02:13:41.359
<v Speaker 2>and that Epstein adamantly denied suicide Okay.

2578
02:13:41.079 --> 02:13:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Did they still legally have to have him on like

2579
02:13:43.079 --> 02:13:44.800
<v Speaker 3>a seventy two hour watch.

2580
02:13:44.680 --> 02:13:46.159
<v Speaker 4>At bare minimum?

2581
02:13:46.359 --> 02:13:49.560
<v Speaker 2>That is standard protocol by law, not just in jails,

2582
02:13:49.600 --> 02:13:51.199
<v Speaker 2>even in the civilian world.

2583
02:13:52.640 --> 02:13:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Right. Even the downgraded status bothered Epstein.

2584
02:13:56.039 --> 02:13:58.800
<v Speaker 2>The record show he insisted to jail staff that he

2585
02:13:58.800 --> 02:14:00.159
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't try to kill himself.

2586
02:14:00.439 --> 02:14:03.760
<v Speaker 4>He denied feeling hopeless. He was reporting positive future plans

2587
02:14:03.800 --> 02:14:06.640
<v Speaker 4>and reasons to live. For one staff wrote in an

2588
02:14:06.640 --> 02:14:09.640
<v Speaker 4>August first report. He described himself to one source that

2589
02:14:09.720 --> 02:14:13.079
<v Speaker 4>week as too much of a coward quote unquote to

2590
02:14:13.239 --> 02:14:16.319
<v Speaker 4>kill himself, and wondered aloud to another source if the

2591
02:14:16.359 --> 02:14:19.760
<v Speaker 4>incident had been a prank gone wrong. The event was

2592
02:14:19.800 --> 02:14:24.159
<v Speaker 4>expunged from Epstein's official record after the jails disciplinary proceedings

2593
02:14:24.159 --> 02:14:29.359
<v Speaker 4>failed to prove he committed self mutilation. Following the incident,

2594
02:14:29.359 --> 02:14:32.560
<v Speaker 4>Epstein expressed concern to the Bureau of Prison employees about

2595
02:14:32.560 --> 02:14:35.319
<v Speaker 4>being housed back in the same unit, saying he felt

2596
02:14:35.479 --> 02:14:37.800
<v Speaker 4>it was dangerous quote unquote.

2597
02:14:38.000 --> 02:14:41.880
<v Speaker 2>According to the IG report, Epstein was assigned a new

2598
02:14:41.960 --> 02:14:46.680
<v Speaker 2>cell mate, Efrin Rays, and moved back on July thirtieth.

2599
02:14:46.880 --> 02:14:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Nine days later, Reyes was transferred or it might be Rays.

2600
02:14:50.920 --> 02:14:54.760
<v Speaker 2>As night fell, Epstein found himself without a bunkie. Hours later,

2601
02:14:55.199 --> 02:14:57.600
<v Speaker 2>the early morning quiet of the secure housing unit was

2602
02:14:57.640 --> 02:15:00.800
<v Speaker 2>once again punctured as a corrections office a call for help.

2603
02:15:01.039 --> 02:15:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Epstein was once again on the floor of his cell.

2604
02:15:03.239 --> 02:15:07.760
<v Speaker 2>This time his body was cold to the touch. Yeah,

2605
02:15:07.800 --> 02:15:13.000
<v Speaker 2>so just reading this article, there is more than a

2606
02:15:13.079 --> 02:15:17.079
<v Speaker 2>few massive red flags that we can't overlook here.

2607
02:15:18.800 --> 02:15:20.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't even know what to say about it.

2608
02:15:21.000 --> 02:15:23.119
<v Speaker 3>This is that he was killed.

2609
02:15:23.199 --> 02:15:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean obviously, but like this is this is

2610
02:15:26.359 --> 02:15:30.760
<v Speaker 2>as bad of an example of investigations being so just

2611
02:15:31.279 --> 02:15:32.760
<v Speaker 2>off from start to finish.

2612
02:15:32.840 --> 02:15:35.119
<v Speaker 4>This is okay, O J. Simpson.

2613
02:15:35.479 --> 02:15:41.000
<v Speaker 2>That whole case that is used that's used in colleges

2614
02:15:41.199 --> 02:15:44.079
<v Speaker 2>for law students on how not to handle evidence and

2615
02:15:44.079 --> 02:15:48.199
<v Speaker 2>how not to conduct an investigation. Mm hm, this is

2616
02:15:48.359 --> 02:15:49.960
<v Speaker 2>that egregious in my opinion.

2617
02:15:50.880 --> 02:15:52.760
<v Speaker 3>M I agree, it's pretty bad.

2618
02:15:53.479 --> 02:15:58.840
<v Speaker 2>And so who knows maybe tar tag le own you know. Yeah,

2619
02:15:58.960 --> 02:16:04.119
<v Speaker 2>in prison, child predators are not living their best lives.

2620
02:16:04.239 --> 02:16:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's put it like that. So it's very possible that's

2621
02:16:06.840 --> 02:16:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Tartagli almost trying to extort some money out of them.

2622
02:16:09.239 --> 02:16:12.479
<v Speaker 4>I could see. That doesn't mean that he also wasn't.

2623
02:16:12.239 --> 02:16:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Going to do the job when the time came right,

2624
02:16:14.880 --> 02:16:17.199
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, end of the day, he is a

2625
02:16:17.239 --> 02:16:21.439
<v Speaker 2>mob guy, and the mafia and other very powerful influential

2626
02:16:21.479 --> 02:16:26.119
<v Speaker 2>people had connections to Tartaglion' That's an understood fact on

2627
02:16:26.119 --> 02:16:28.760
<v Speaker 2>that one as well. So when you couple that with

2628
02:16:29.199 --> 02:16:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the manner in which Epstein died, you couple that with

2629
02:16:33.799 --> 02:16:39.040
<v Speaker 2>the situation, the prior incident between the two, all of

2630
02:16:39.079 --> 02:16:40.120
<v Speaker 2>these things.

2631
02:16:41.159 --> 02:16:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Trump you know, connection, yeah, you know, and now maybe

2632
02:16:46.399 --> 02:16:48.479
<v Speaker 3>potential connection to him again.

2633
02:16:49.520 --> 02:16:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so let's talk about that, shall we.

2634
02:16:53.120 --> 02:16:55.200
<v Speaker 2>This article is from the New York Post, and I

2635
02:16:55.280 --> 02:16:57.440
<v Speaker 2>understand it's a New York Post, So some people are

2636
02:16:57.479 --> 02:16:59.879
<v Speaker 2>going to say that this is an absolute excellent source.

2637
02:17:00.200 --> 02:17:03.360
<v Speaker 4>Some people are gonna say it's basically tabloid rags. Listen,

2638
02:17:03.399 --> 02:17:07.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm not here to debate that between anything, but I

2639
02:17:07.879 --> 02:17:12.159
<v Speaker 4>did do some more research into this topic and believe

2640
02:17:12.159 --> 02:17:15.399
<v Speaker 4>it or not, the at least what he's trying to

2641
02:17:15.440 --> 02:17:18.879
<v Speaker 4>do is accurate. This was published September twenty second of

2642
02:17:18.959 --> 02:17:23.920
<v Speaker 4>this year. Jeffrey Epstein's killer cop former cellmate pushing for

2643
02:17:24.120 --> 02:17:29.239
<v Speaker 4>pardon backed by RFK Junior. Ally, so let's talk about

2644
02:17:29.280 --> 02:17:29.559
<v Speaker 4>it here.

2645
02:17:30.200 --> 02:17:33.399
<v Speaker 2>A dirty former Westchester cop turn murderers drug dealer who

2646
02:17:33.479 --> 02:17:36.520
<v Speaker 2>was once Jeffrey Epstein's cellmate is allegedly making a fresh

2647
02:17:36.559 --> 02:17:39.719
<v Speaker 2>bid for freedom with the support of an anti VAXX

2648
02:17:39.840 --> 02:17:43.440
<v Speaker 2>influencer tied to Health Secretary RFK Junior.

2649
02:17:43.959 --> 02:17:45.840
<v Speaker 4>We talked about Nicholas star tag Leone.

2650
02:17:46.000 --> 02:17:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Not gonna go into it why he's in jail, but

2651
02:17:49.200 --> 02:17:53.200
<v Speaker 2>he is working with influencer Jessica Reed Krause to try

2652
02:17:53.239 --> 02:17:58.040
<v Speaker 2>to overturn his conviction. Kraus, a former Mommy blogger and

2653
02:17:58.159 --> 02:18:01.600
<v Speaker 2>major supporter of President Trump, took a call from Tartaglione

2654
02:18:01.680 --> 02:18:05.520
<v Speaker 2>during her interview with the magazine The New Yorker, reassuring

2655
02:18:05.559 --> 02:18:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the quadruple murderer that she could help him receive a

2656
02:18:08.520 --> 02:18:12.040
<v Speaker 2>pardon from the President. Direct quote from Kraus. Trump is

2657
02:18:12.079 --> 02:18:15.159
<v Speaker 2>known as the pardon President. This is what she told

2658
02:18:15.200 --> 02:18:19.239
<v Speaker 2>tartag Leone, who has insisted since his twenty twenty.

2659
02:18:18.959 --> 02:18:22.239
<v Speaker 4>Three conviction that he was framed and he is. He's

2660
02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:23.799
<v Speaker 4>dying on that hill for sure.

2661
02:18:25.079 --> 02:18:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Krause, who also styles herself as j r K or

2662
02:18:30.079 --> 02:18:33.719
<v Speaker 2>think her name is JE what I said earlier her

2663
02:18:33.799 --> 02:18:38.879
<v Speaker 2>name Jessica Reed Kraus JRK, said she was in contact

2664
02:18:38.959 --> 02:18:43.000
<v Speaker 2>with around four different inmates for stories. The influencer, who

2665
02:18:43.040 --> 02:18:45.639
<v Speaker 2>has more than one point three million followers on Instagram,

2666
02:18:45.680 --> 02:18:48.920
<v Speaker 2>came under fire recently as she appeared to mock victims

2667
02:18:48.959 --> 02:18:53.840
<v Speaker 2>of Epstein, the late Wall Street financier and former cellmate Tartaglione,

2668
02:18:54.360 --> 02:18:56.959
<v Speaker 2>just weeks before his death in twenty nineteen at New

2669
02:18:57.040 --> 02:19:01.959
<v Speaker 2>Yorkers or New York's Metropolitan Correction Center. On her Instagram story,

2670
02:19:02.360 --> 02:19:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Kraus posted a black screen with the words quote good god,

2671
02:19:06.799 --> 02:19:10.000
<v Speaker 2>cult members, I'm quoting here, I was raped twenty five

2672
02:19:10.079 --> 02:19:13.399
<v Speaker 2>times on the island. Maybe stop boarding the flight you

2673
02:19:13.559 --> 02:19:19.399
<v Speaker 2>take to the island. What she was mocking the victims

2674
02:19:19.600 --> 02:19:21.200
<v Speaker 2>who have come forward and are trying.

2675
02:19:20.959 --> 02:19:21.920
<v Speaker 4>To seek justice.

2676
02:19:22.079 --> 02:19:24.159
<v Speaker 2>She's like, ooh, I was three eight back then, then,

2677
02:19:24.280 --> 02:19:25.959
<v Speaker 2>why don't you just stop getting on the plane.

2678
02:19:27.399 --> 02:19:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Yeah.

2679
02:19:29.239 --> 02:19:31.719
<v Speaker 3>What a trash piece of shit human being.

2680
02:19:31.840 --> 02:19:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's a mommy blogger.

2681
02:19:34.399 --> 02:19:35.399
<v Speaker 3>She can get fucked.

2682
02:19:35.600 --> 02:19:37.920
<v Speaker 4>She's not. That's probably why she's such a cunt.

2683
02:19:38.000 --> 02:19:42.200
<v Speaker 2>She probably Kraus, one of the pro MAGA influencers who

2684
02:19:42.280 --> 02:19:44.920
<v Speaker 2>was hardened or handed the first phase of the Epstein

2685
02:19:45.000 --> 02:19:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Files in a binder. Earlier this year, after Trump took office,

2686
02:19:48.399 --> 02:19:51.159
<v Speaker 2>doubled down on her criticisms of his victims in a

2687
02:19:51.200 --> 02:19:55.479
<v Speaker 2>subsequent post. Remember that time when all these quote unquote

2688
02:19:55.520 --> 02:19:58.879
<v Speaker 2>influencers were holding up these big thick binders saying Epstein

2689
02:19:58.920 --> 02:20:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Files Part one, and it was a big photo op.

2690
02:20:01.440 --> 02:20:02.879
<v Speaker 2>And then when you looked at the side view, these

2691
02:20:02.879 --> 02:20:04.079
<v Speaker 2>binders were completely empty.

2692
02:20:04.879 --> 02:20:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes, she was one of them, of course she was.

2693
02:20:08.079 --> 02:20:09.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

2694
02:20:09.319 --> 02:20:12.200
<v Speaker 2>She called on her followers to examine the facts quote

2695
02:20:12.280 --> 02:20:16.280
<v Speaker 2>unquote before attacking the hashtag knee too movement for overlooking

2696
02:20:16.440 --> 02:20:19.719
<v Speaker 2>facts and common sense. This is a direct quote from her.

2697
02:20:20.200 --> 02:20:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Forgive me for refusing to embrace a narrative in which

2698
02:20:22.879 --> 02:20:26.319
<v Speaker 2>college aged women who boarded a private jet again and

2699
02:20:26.440 --> 02:20:30.479
<v Speaker 2>again for years to vacation and accept payments as escorts

2700
02:20:30.520 --> 02:20:35.319
<v Speaker 2>to a multi millionaire later collecting millions after therapy convicted

2701
02:20:35.799 --> 02:20:41.399
<v Speaker 2>sick them. They were victims of rape. Epstein was dead

2702
02:20:41.440 --> 02:20:44.879
<v Speaker 2>and the only person left to sue was just laying maxwell.

2703
02:20:45.440 --> 02:20:49.159
<v Speaker 4>So her english hitting the best either. But basically she's saying, yeah, sorry,

2704
02:20:49.200 --> 02:20:52.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm not exactly just gonna believe all these hot twenty

2705
02:20:52.120 --> 02:20:55.079
<v Speaker 4>something year olds after they made their money off the deal.

2706
02:20:55.680 --> 02:21:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's absolutely ridiculous that she is a mother and

2707
02:21:02.760 --> 02:21:06.120
<v Speaker 3>a fellow woman and just straight up shitting all over

2708
02:21:06.159 --> 02:21:06.959
<v Speaker 3>these victims.

2709
02:21:07.360 --> 02:21:08.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

2710
02:21:08.600 --> 02:21:11.399
<v Speaker 2>So, Krawd spent the past five years chronicling the rise

2711
02:21:11.440 --> 02:21:14.440
<v Speaker 2>of RFK Junior, including his presidential run before he took

2712
02:21:14.440 --> 02:21:18.079
<v Speaker 2>his role in the Trump administration as Health Secretary. On

2713
02:21:18.120 --> 02:21:21.840
<v Speaker 2>her phone, she has a photo folder titled shirtless Kennedy's

2714
02:21:22.000 --> 02:21:25.719
<v Speaker 2>showing off toned torsos in various voting scenes around Cape

2715
02:21:25.760 --> 02:21:29.120
<v Speaker 2>cod So she's a bit of a fucking weirdo, just

2716
02:21:29.159 --> 02:21:29.879
<v Speaker 2>throwing that out.

2717
02:21:30.120 --> 02:21:31.559
<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say, I was like, what is

2718
02:21:31.639 --> 02:21:32.239
<v Speaker 3>her deal?

2719
02:21:33.159 --> 02:21:37.479
<v Speaker 2>She praised Kennedy's work as Health Secretary, firing ten thousand

2720
02:21:37.760 --> 02:21:42.000
<v Speaker 2>HHS employees, canceling five hundred thousand in mRNA research that

2721
02:21:42.040 --> 02:21:44.840
<v Speaker 2>helped develop the COVID vaccine, which okay, good for that,

2722
02:21:45.280 --> 02:21:48.079
<v Speaker 2>and replacing health experts in the Centers for Disease Control

2723
02:21:48.079 --> 02:21:51.559
<v Speaker 2>and Prevention vaccine advisory panel with anti VAXX skeptics, which,

2724
02:21:51.600 --> 02:21:54.319
<v Speaker 2>for the record, I like that RFK did these things,

2725
02:21:54.399 --> 02:21:57.159
<v Speaker 2>but also it's just not a good look that this woman,

2726
02:21:57.200 --> 02:22:01.879
<v Speaker 2>who's also this much of a psychopath is on that team.

2727
02:22:01.959 --> 02:22:03.079
<v Speaker 4>This is a direct quota, says.

2728
02:22:03.120 --> 02:22:06.879
<v Speaker 2>I think overall, in five months, he Kennedy has done

2729
02:22:06.920 --> 02:22:09.479
<v Speaker 2>an incredible job. I think he's gotten more done than

2730
02:22:09.479 --> 02:22:12.319
<v Speaker 2>any health secretary in the past, she told The New Yorker.

2731
02:22:12.879 --> 02:22:15.959
<v Speaker 2>There's also pictures of these two together on boats and things.

2732
02:22:16.040 --> 02:22:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Krauson RFK Junior. When Kennedy endorsed Trump, Kraus posted a

2733
02:22:20.200 --> 02:22:23.719
<v Speaker 2>picture of the pair with the caption Trump Kennedy equals unity.

2734
02:22:24.079 --> 02:22:27.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, I fought hard for this. She fought hard

2735
02:22:27.520 --> 02:22:27.799
<v Speaker 2>for this.

2736
02:22:28.319 --> 02:22:29.760
<v Speaker 3>She did ye now.

2737
02:22:29.840 --> 02:22:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione, who we already talked about the people he murdered

2738
02:22:32.719 --> 02:22:35.360
<v Speaker 2>in twenty sixteen over a cocaine deal that went wrong,

2739
02:22:35.600 --> 02:22:38.399
<v Speaker 2>was described as a critical witness by his attorney during

2740
02:22:38.399 --> 02:22:41.760
<v Speaker 2>the investigation into Epstein's suicide, which took place while he

2741
02:22:41.840 --> 02:22:45.440
<v Speaker 2>was awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges. After kidnapping

2742
02:22:45.479 --> 02:22:48.319
<v Speaker 2>the four men from a club owned by his brother,

2743
02:22:48.639 --> 02:22:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Tartaglione strangled Luna with a zip tie while the others

2744
02:22:51.319 --> 02:22:54.239
<v Speaker 2>were forced to watch over accusations that he had stolen

2745
02:22:54.639 --> 02:22:59.600
<v Speaker 2>a quarter million dollars from him. Prosecutor said the three others.

2746
02:23:00.360 --> 02:23:03.600
<v Speaker 2>All four bodies were buried on Tartaglion's property, which was

2747
02:23:03.639 --> 02:23:07.760
<v Speaker 2>an animal rescue. One of his alleged accomplices shot himself

2748
02:23:07.760 --> 02:23:10.120
<v Speaker 2>in a car in twenty seventeen his FEDS were closing in,

2749
02:23:10.159 --> 02:23:13.799
<v Speaker 2>while another, Joseph Biggs, was sentenced to sixteen years in

2750
02:23:13.879 --> 02:23:17.680
<v Speaker 2>prison after pleading guilty to killing one of the victims.

2751
02:23:18.719 --> 02:23:20.239
<v Speaker 4>So it's not even like this is alleged.

2752
02:23:20.440 --> 02:23:23.239
<v Speaker 2>It's understood exactly what happened and who was guilty, and

2753
02:23:23.319 --> 02:23:25.959
<v Speaker 2>the murder of these four individuals and all that Biggs

2754
02:23:26.000 --> 02:23:31.000
<v Speaker 2>described the killings at Tartaglione's trial. Tartaglione has always maintained

2755
02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:34.079
<v Speaker 2>his innocence, bizarrely claiming at his trial that he ran

2756
02:23:34.120 --> 02:23:38.799
<v Speaker 2>an animal rescue farm and wasn't motivated by money the

2757
02:23:38.840 --> 02:23:43.120
<v Speaker 2>mob time, dirty cop, the entire time he wore a badge,

2758
02:23:43.159 --> 02:23:45.520
<v Speaker 2>he was motivated by money, but all of a sudden,

2759
02:23:45.959 --> 02:23:49.159
<v Speaker 2>now he's retired, he's no longer motivated by money.

2760
02:23:49.040 --> 02:23:51.319
<v Speaker 3>And wanted to start a cocaine business.

2761
02:23:51.440 --> 02:23:55.000
<v Speaker 4>But okay, yep, yeah, buddy.

2762
02:23:55.559 --> 02:23:59.239
<v Speaker 2>So shocker that Kraus did not respond for comment from

2763
02:23:59.239 --> 02:24:02.760
<v Speaker 2>The New York Post. You know, it's just one of

2764
02:24:02.840 --> 02:24:06.239
<v Speaker 2>those things, y'all. There's no connection here, there's nothing to say.

2765
02:24:06.280 --> 02:24:07.600
<v Speaker 2>What are we talking about here?

2766
02:24:08.600 --> 02:24:12.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So anyway, I'm just gonna say it.

2767
02:24:14.040 --> 02:24:16.079
<v Speaker 2>This is this all this whole thing smells to high

2768
02:24:16.079 --> 02:24:17.479
<v Speaker 2>heavens good cult members.

2769
02:24:17.799 --> 02:24:19.399
<v Speaker 4>There's no two ways about it.

2770
02:24:19.399 --> 02:24:23.719
<v Speaker 3>It's everything to do with Epstein is smells the high

2771
02:24:23.719 --> 02:24:31.239
<v Speaker 3>heaven Everything, every single email, document, photo conversation, who's involved,

2772
02:24:31.280 --> 02:24:36.319
<v Speaker 3>who's been involved, every single aspect of the whole situation.

2773
02:24:36.959 --> 02:24:41.479
<v Speaker 3>Even before he was arrested in twenty nineteen, decades of

2774
02:24:41.799 --> 02:24:48.479
<v Speaker 3>information about him is just shrouded in conspiracies and lies

2775
02:24:48.639 --> 02:24:51.680
<v Speaker 3>in a web of tangles. It's just insane. Even just

2776
02:24:51.760 --> 02:24:55.000
<v Speaker 3>watching some videos, most of the content creators are like,

2777
02:24:55.040 --> 02:24:58.479
<v Speaker 3>we can't even cover all this because it's so vast

2778
02:24:58.600 --> 02:25:03.319
<v Speaker 3>and so intense. I will say, though, they're going after Hillary,

2779
02:25:03.360 --> 02:25:05.639
<v Speaker 3>and I'm very excited they're.

2780
02:25:05.479 --> 02:25:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Going after Killery as far as Epstein is concerned, I mean,

2781
02:25:09.000 --> 02:25:13.440
<v Speaker 2>or about the phony documents and all that shit they have.

2782
02:25:15.239 --> 02:25:17.840
<v Speaker 3>There was a big YouTube thing that I was watching

2783
02:25:17.879 --> 02:25:20.760
<v Speaker 3>about how they're going to try to go after Killary

2784
02:25:20.879 --> 02:25:26.440
<v Speaker 3>and her association with the Epstein files and everything. I

2785
02:25:26.479 --> 02:25:28.719
<v Speaker 3>need to watch more about it, but apparently her name

2786
02:25:28.760 --> 02:25:31.239
<v Speaker 3>is being brought up heavily. And I will say though,

2787
02:25:31.239 --> 02:25:33.479
<v Speaker 3>when we do talk about the photos on the walls,

2788
02:25:33.879 --> 02:25:37.920
<v Speaker 3>there is some interesting theories about what can what has

2789
02:25:37.959 --> 02:25:41.600
<v Speaker 3>been released before and then redacted and then re edited

2790
02:25:41.719 --> 02:25:46.280
<v Speaker 3>and released again, but we already have the original photo

2791
02:25:46.319 --> 02:25:49.440
<v Speaker 3>that was released. I don't know. The government be doing

2792
02:25:49.479 --> 02:25:52.920
<v Speaker 3>some wild shit thinking that people are just like extremely

2793
02:25:53.000 --> 02:25:55.319
<v Speaker 3>stupid and not going to pay attention.

2794
02:25:55.680 --> 02:25:57.719
<v Speaker 4>That's the thing they're right.

2795
02:25:58.879 --> 02:26:00.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, there is a lot of people, but

2796
02:26:01.239 --> 02:26:04.920
<v Speaker 3>now it seems like this is under extreme microscope and

2797
02:26:04.959 --> 02:26:09.319
<v Speaker 3>hopefully more there's a lot of more conversations happening about

2798
02:26:09.360 --> 02:26:14.319
<v Speaker 3>how he quote unquote you know, killed himself and we'll

2799
02:26:14.319 --> 02:26:17.120
<v Speaker 3>see and how maybe all of this ties back to

2800
02:26:18.239 --> 02:26:22.280
<v Speaker 3>the mob and to Trump and to the conversations about

2801
02:26:22.360 --> 02:26:25.399
<v Speaker 3>Epstein and that they've actually been there. Was just I

2802
02:26:25.440 --> 02:26:30.120
<v Speaker 3>just saw a picture of Trump's birthday card to Epstein

2803
02:26:30.360 --> 02:26:32.680
<v Speaker 3>and it has like an hourglass girl shape and I

2804
02:26:32.760 --> 02:26:36.719
<v Speaker 3>was reading through it. They apparently they've been friends for

2805
02:26:36.799 --> 02:26:40.159
<v Speaker 3>decades and it never was never did stop. He just

2806
02:26:40.360 --> 02:26:43.360
<v Speaker 3>was a lot more clever about not emailing back and forth.

2807
02:26:43.920 --> 02:26:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Now I will say this too, the connection may not

2808
02:26:47.559 --> 02:26:49.280
<v Speaker 2>be Trump inherently.

2809
02:26:50.079 --> 02:26:52.239
<v Speaker 4>Keep in mind Jeffrey Epstein.

2810
02:26:52.520 --> 02:26:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the sex trafficking, the girls, the island, all of this,

2811
02:26:55.719 --> 02:26:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not downplaying that by any means. But again, he

2812
02:26:59.079 --> 02:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>was the financial guy worldwide. If you were somebody who

2813
02:27:03.280 --> 02:27:05.680
<v Speaker 2>have millions, if not billions of dollars that you needed

2814
02:27:05.680 --> 02:27:09.280
<v Speaker 2>to go off records so that the IRS couldn't track you,

2815
02:27:09.280 --> 02:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>you called Jeff Right. And that's an understood fact.

2816
02:27:12.760 --> 02:27:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Jeff.

2817
02:27:13.520 --> 02:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>So keep in mind that the mafia has gone legit

2818
02:27:17.239 --> 02:27:19.319
<v Speaker 2>in the last few decades, but they still have their

2819
02:27:19.360 --> 02:27:22.440
<v Speaker 2>illegal enterprises that they do. And there's only so much

2820
02:27:22.600 --> 02:27:25.360
<v Speaker 2>washing you can do with money. It gets harder to

2821
02:27:25.600 --> 02:27:28.200
<v Speaker 2>wash the amount the more it goes up. If you're

2822
02:27:28.200 --> 02:27:30.639
<v Speaker 2>trying to wash a couple thousand, even a couple hundred thousand,

2823
02:27:30.920 --> 02:27:33.879
<v Speaker 2>there's ways, there's ways you could do that. You're trying

2824
02:27:33.920 --> 02:27:37.680
<v Speaker 2>to wash hundreds of millions of dollars, that's a lot

2825
02:27:37.760 --> 02:27:41.159
<v Speaker 2>more difficult and takes a lot more maneuvering, So you

2826
02:27:41.159 --> 02:27:45.239
<v Speaker 2>would call an expert. So I also find it extremely

2827
02:27:45.280 --> 02:27:49.719
<v Speaker 2>possible that this was a mafia hit for mafia reasons.

2828
02:27:49.920 --> 02:27:50.760
<v Speaker 4>Start to finish.

2829
02:27:51.760 --> 02:27:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, so hear me out.

2830
02:27:55.360 --> 02:27:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's hypothetical, this got paint you a picture here. Epstein

2831
02:27:59.719 --> 02:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>would big in New York. He was big in Florida,

2832
02:28:02.639 --> 02:28:04.559
<v Speaker 2>he got his own island, but he got big in

2833
02:28:04.639 --> 02:28:07.239
<v Speaker 2>New York, meaning that he's got a lot of unscrupulous

2834
02:28:07.319 --> 02:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>characters around him from any given point of time. What

2835
02:28:10.879 --> 02:28:13.959
<v Speaker 2>are the chances that at some point the five families

2836
02:28:14.440 --> 02:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>came together with him and said, hey, we as the commission,

2837
02:28:18.159 --> 02:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>which to my knowledge is still running. They say it

2838
02:28:21.079 --> 02:28:23.840
<v Speaker 2>was shut down. It just went under the radar. We

2839
02:28:24.000 --> 02:28:26.280
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of money and we can't really have

2840
02:28:26.319 --> 02:28:28.399
<v Speaker 2>a track to us. We know who you are, we

2841
02:28:28.479 --> 02:28:31.159
<v Speaker 2>know what you're about. We need help in this regard.

2842
02:28:31.559 --> 02:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Cool Jeff does his work. Things are Gucci great, cut

2843
02:28:35.920 --> 02:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>to He just got arrested. He is only a few

2844
02:28:40.120 --> 02:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>days away from trial, and they may not trust that

2845
02:28:44.479 --> 02:28:45.239
<v Speaker 2>he'll just keep.

2846
02:28:45.120 --> 02:28:45.840
<v Speaker 4>His mouth shut.

2847
02:28:46.120 --> 02:28:48.440
<v Speaker 3>I doesn't say he might become a songbird over here.

2848
02:28:48.719 --> 02:28:50.520
<v Speaker 4>They don't know if he will. They don't know if

2849
02:28:50.520 --> 02:28:51.360
<v Speaker 4>he won't.

2850
02:28:51.600 --> 02:28:55.280
<v Speaker 2>But there was a clip of an interview that was

2851
02:28:55.319 --> 02:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>done with him in jail where he was naming certain things.

2852
02:29:00.200 --> 02:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>He was kind of you know, it wasn't like he

2853
02:29:02.840 --> 02:29:05.479
<v Speaker 2>was reading off a list by any means, but he

2854
02:29:05.600 --> 02:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>was a lot more willing to talk than what made

2855
02:29:08.079 --> 02:29:12.360
<v Speaker 2>the mafia feel comfortable. Okay, And so maybe rather than

2856
02:29:12.479 --> 02:29:15.360
<v Speaker 2>seeing if he would take a plead deal, they already

2857
02:29:15.440 --> 02:29:18.879
<v Speaker 2>knew that they had a guy, one of their guys

2858
02:29:18.920 --> 02:29:20.840
<v Speaker 2>at least, if nothing else. They want a made man

2859
02:29:20.840 --> 02:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>by any means, but a guy that they have used

2860
02:29:22.639 --> 02:29:24.639
<v Speaker 2>for some muscle from time to time, a dirty cop

2861
02:29:24.680 --> 02:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>that's been on the mafia payroll for the better part

2862
02:29:26.760 --> 02:29:27.520
<v Speaker 2>of two decades.

2863
02:29:28.040 --> 02:29:31.319
<v Speaker 4>And he happens to be in the same prison. And

2864
02:29:31.360 --> 02:29:33.920
<v Speaker 4>the guards are bought, the judges are bought. All of

2865
02:29:33.920 --> 02:29:36.079
<v Speaker 4>these things are bought. So what are the chances that

2866
02:29:36.120 --> 02:29:40.040
<v Speaker 4>the mafia slipped a little cash, little Christmas envelope into

2867
02:29:40.079 --> 02:29:43.719
<v Speaker 4>one of these guards pockets, made sure that Tartaglione was

2868
02:29:43.760 --> 02:29:47.159
<v Speaker 4>going to be Epstein's cellmate, and then they just removed

2869
02:29:47.200 --> 02:29:49.479
<v Speaker 4>the possibility and tied up a loose end.

2870
02:29:51.159 --> 02:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I like your theory. I think it holds a lot

2871
02:29:53.040 --> 02:29:53.440
<v Speaker 3>of merit.

2872
02:29:53.760 --> 02:29:57.879
<v Speaker 4>And it wouldn't matter because Tartaglione was serving force consecutive

2873
02:29:57.920 --> 02:30:01.879
<v Speaker 4>life sentences. So it wasn't hurting anybody. It wasn't like

2874
02:30:01.920 --> 02:30:03.520
<v Speaker 4>they were hanging their boy out to dry.

2875
02:30:04.600 --> 02:30:09.360
<v Speaker 3>But you know, if Epstein was willing to sing about

2876
02:30:09.360 --> 02:30:11.760
<v Speaker 3>the mob, he'd be willing to sing about everyone else.

2877
02:30:11.879 --> 02:30:14.399
<v Speaker 3>And it could be a I scratch her back, you

2878
02:30:14.479 --> 02:30:18.040
<v Speaker 3>scratch mind situation by getting rid of him. And so

2879
02:30:18.079 --> 02:30:21.479
<v Speaker 3>then we get to this point where okay, hey, the

2880
02:30:21.600 --> 02:30:24.920
<v Speaker 3>some shit's coming out. But I did you a favor

2881
02:30:25.040 --> 02:30:27.280
<v Speaker 3>and now I have all this information on you, so

2882
02:30:27.360 --> 02:30:29.360
<v Speaker 3>you better pardon me and get me out of this

2883
02:30:29.440 --> 02:30:30.520
<v Speaker 3>goddamn jail cell.

2884
02:30:31.879 --> 02:30:34.360
<v Speaker 4>Very well could be. And let's tie that back into

2885
02:30:35.239 --> 02:30:36.000
<v Speaker 4>the same way.

2886
02:30:36.239 --> 02:30:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm so glad you said it the way you did,

2887
02:30:38.399 --> 02:30:39.799
<v Speaker 2>ravenly goddamn it.

2888
02:30:39.920 --> 02:30:44.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes, So here's the deal. Keep in mind, JFK was

2889
02:30:44.399 --> 02:30:48.559
<v Speaker 4>also assassinated by the mafia. Reason being, and I know

2890
02:30:48.559 --> 02:30:50.760
<v Speaker 4>there's people that if you look at the list, there's

2891
02:30:50.840 --> 02:30:55.680
<v Speaker 4>ten possible groups that wanted JFK assassinated and they all

2892
02:30:55.719 --> 02:30:57.680
<v Speaker 4>have their merit. Just hear me out.

2893
02:30:57.760 --> 02:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Though the Kennedys got famous and rich and all these

2894
02:31:02.040 --> 02:31:06.399
<v Speaker 2>things because of Granddaddy Kennedy and his connections to the

2895
02:31:06.399 --> 02:31:10.879
<v Speaker 2>mafia through the bootlegging operations to the twenties and thirties. Okay,

2896
02:31:11.000 --> 02:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>when the Great Depression took place, the Kennedys were living

2897
02:31:14.479 --> 02:31:19.079
<v Speaker 2>in abject royalty levels wealth. Right, JFK grew up living

2898
02:31:19.120 --> 02:31:21.479
<v Speaker 2>his best life during the Great Depression. They didn't even

2899
02:31:21.479 --> 02:31:25.079
<v Speaker 2>know the Great Depression was happening because his daddy pulled

2900
02:31:25.079 --> 02:31:27.639
<v Speaker 2>out of the stock market before it crashed. And how

2901
02:31:27.680 --> 02:31:29.399
<v Speaker 2>he got all the money to put into the stock

2902
02:31:29.479 --> 02:31:31.879
<v Speaker 2>market was from mafia ties and bootlegging.

2903
02:31:32.319 --> 02:31:36.399
<v Speaker 4>Cut two. The mafia got JFK elected by their own

2904
02:31:36.479 --> 02:31:39.159
<v Speaker 4>emission and by his own emission. And what does he

2905
02:31:39.280 --> 02:31:43.120
<v Speaker 4>do to thank them? He six his brother RFK Senior

2906
02:31:43.639 --> 02:31:48.040
<v Speaker 4>on them and starts arresting big mob bosses and starts

2907
02:31:48.120 --> 02:31:50.479
<v Speaker 4>just hounding them.

2908
02:31:50.559 --> 02:31:52.719
<v Speaker 3>So that makes a lot more sense, you know.

2909
02:31:53.360 --> 02:31:56.000
<v Speaker 4>So they already have some feelings towards the Kennedys, with

2910
02:31:56.360 --> 02:31:59.959
<v Speaker 4>long standing ties of money and blood. So the mafia

2911
02:32:00.120 --> 02:32:05.399
<v Speaker 4>kills JFK, then kills Robert Kennedy publicly, both of them,

2912
02:32:05.440 --> 02:32:06.040
<v Speaker 4>I might add.

2913
02:32:06.600 --> 02:32:08.959
<v Speaker 2>And I understand they're gonna say Lee Harvey Oswell wasn't

2914
02:32:09.000 --> 02:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>mob connected. We're not talking about Lee Harvey Oswell. We're

2915
02:32:11.520 --> 02:32:14.239
<v Speaker 2>talking about the actual trigger puller. And if you're questioning

2916
02:32:14.280 --> 02:32:17.479
<v Speaker 2>if there's any conspiracy surrounding.

2917
02:32:17.040 --> 02:32:18.520
<v Speaker 4>That, I don't know what to tell you.

2918
02:32:18.600 --> 02:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the conspiracy conversation where JFK is one of

2919
02:32:21.719 --> 02:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the main talking points of all time.

2920
02:32:23.719 --> 02:32:25.360
<v Speaker 4>Ever. Cut two.

2921
02:32:26.360 --> 02:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Now these mafia guys who just silence Epstein are calling

2922
02:32:31.040 --> 02:32:35.559
<v Speaker 2>in a favor from the son who's currently the health

2923
02:32:35.600 --> 02:32:39.280
<v Speaker 2>secretary for our current president, saying, hey, you're in tight

2924
02:32:39.319 --> 02:32:39.840
<v Speaker 2>with Trump.

2925
02:32:40.239 --> 02:32:41.600
<v Speaker 4>We want our guy pardoned.

2926
02:32:42.479 --> 02:32:44.360
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was really weird that he would go

2927
02:32:44.440 --> 02:32:50.520
<v Speaker 3>through go through him, of all people, and not anybody else,

2928
02:32:51.280 --> 02:32:54.159
<v Speaker 3>just specifically him. I mean, he's what we're here talking

2929
02:32:54.159 --> 02:32:57.360
<v Speaker 3>about vaccines and you know, stuff you're putting in food

2930
02:32:57.479 --> 02:33:00.760
<v Speaker 3>and trying to get things changed. Why would he associate

2931
02:33:00.840 --> 02:33:03.680
<v Speaker 3>himself specifically with this criminal.

2932
02:33:05.000 --> 02:33:07.760
<v Speaker 4>It makes no sense out loud, right, But again does it.

2933
02:33:08.200 --> 02:33:11.520
<v Speaker 2>All of the things about RFK were through Kraus, So

2934
02:33:11.760 --> 02:33:15.559
<v Speaker 2>we have no first person account of RFK speaking on

2935
02:33:15.639 --> 02:33:19.360
<v Speaker 2>behalf of Tartaglione. This is all in the realm of speculation.

2936
02:33:19.520 --> 02:33:24.799
<v Speaker 2>This is some one quote unquote mommy influencer who has

2937
02:33:24.879 --> 02:33:28.159
<v Speaker 2>been a RFK dick rider for years, who is saying

2938
02:33:28.159 --> 02:33:31.319
<v Speaker 2>that she can get to RFK to get to Trump

2939
02:33:31.319 --> 02:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to get him released. As of this moment, as a

2940
02:33:34.760 --> 02:33:38.280
<v Speaker 2>time of recording, I have no indication that RFK even

2941
02:33:38.319 --> 02:33:42.879
<v Speaker 2>acknowledges this guy's existence, let alone his trying to scratch his.

2942
02:33:42.879 --> 02:33:47.079
<v Speaker 4>Back by any means. Okay, but we can't deny the

2943
02:33:47.200 --> 02:33:51.159
<v Speaker 4>possibility and the fact that this woman on records said

2944
02:33:51.200 --> 02:33:52.559
<v Speaker 4>that she could get him off.

2945
02:33:54.559 --> 02:33:58.920
<v Speaker 3>So I think it's going to be an interesting thing

2946
02:33:58.920 --> 02:34:01.159
<v Speaker 3>to watch unfold. I mean, it's going to be decades

2947
02:34:01.239 --> 02:34:06.120
<v Speaker 3>worth of Epstein conversations. It's never going to be fully

2948
02:34:06.440 --> 02:34:09.159
<v Speaker 3>out and the open they're gonna continuously hold. I mean,

2949
02:34:09.200 --> 02:34:11.840
<v Speaker 3>they have terrorbytes worth of information and they just released

2950
02:34:11.879 --> 02:34:16.079
<v Speaker 3>thirty thirty three thousand files. Yeah, so, and that's just

2951
02:34:16.319 --> 02:34:18.840
<v Speaker 3>it's just a little bit of crumbs here and there

2952
02:34:19.000 --> 02:34:22.440
<v Speaker 3>to keep you going to keep your hope and maybe

2953
02:34:22.440 --> 02:34:25.120
<v Speaker 3>they'll do the right thing. We'll arrest a couple people.

2954
02:34:25.680 --> 02:34:29.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, Prince whatever the hell is named Andrew.

2955
02:34:29.799 --> 02:34:32.479
<v Speaker 4>Who lost all of his titles now, yeah, all.

2956
02:34:32.479 --> 02:34:36.879
<v Speaker 3>His titles are completely gone. So you know there's justice

2957
02:34:37.079 --> 02:34:40.920
<v Speaker 3>to be served there. Cut one of the Larry Doo

2958
02:34:40.959 --> 02:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>that was on the phone, he just yeah, he just

2959
02:34:43.719 --> 02:34:47.760
<v Speaker 3>got removed from his positions. So I guess that's justice,

2960
02:34:48.520 --> 02:34:51.719
<v Speaker 3>but it's it's interesting. But then it all kind of

2961
02:34:51.760 --> 02:34:55.959
<v Speaker 3>ties back to good old Clay and his incessant need

2962
02:34:56.040 --> 02:34:59.040
<v Speaker 3>for true justice, no matter the cost, no matter what

2963
02:34:59.200 --> 02:35:02.239
<v Speaker 3>he had to go through. He wanted the truth to

2964
02:35:02.280 --> 02:35:05.159
<v Speaker 3>be told, and he wanted justice to be served and

2965
02:35:05.239 --> 02:35:08.600
<v Speaker 3>to call out the corruption. So in honor of Clay,

2966
02:35:08.879 --> 02:35:12.319
<v Speaker 3>everyone will continue to keep pushing forward in trying to

2967
02:35:12.319 --> 02:35:15.920
<v Speaker 3>seek justice and understanding of what happened with this whole

2968
02:35:16.520 --> 02:35:18.079
<v Speaker 3>crazy mess of Epstein.

2969
02:35:18.479 --> 02:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, they will ravenly good cult members. This is where

2970
02:35:21.840 --> 02:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>we leave you as far as this episode is concerned.

2971
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<v Speaker 2>Clay Tiffany, the man, the myth, the legend who started

2972
02:35:27.680 --> 02:35:30.799
<v Speaker 2>his public access show in the nineties just to talk

2973
02:35:30.959 --> 02:35:35.879
<v Speaker 2>shit and bring to light the politicians, the judges, some

2974
02:35:35.959 --> 02:35:38.840
<v Speaker 2>journalists and police officers that in his area of New

2975
02:35:38.920 --> 02:35:43.360
<v Speaker 2>York he thought were shitty. And it's not like this

2976
02:35:43.399 --> 02:35:46.159
<v Speaker 2>guy mate went viral. It's not like he was on

2977
02:35:46.680 --> 02:35:49.280
<v Speaker 2>national news. He was never syndicated or anything like that.

2978
02:35:49.559 --> 02:35:52.200
<v Speaker 2>He started his own channel just to do it right.

2979
02:35:52.719 --> 02:35:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Was he a dick maybe? Was he a little crazy, hey?

2980
02:35:56.520 --> 02:35:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Maybe? But he was also right more than he was wrong.

2981
02:36:00.520 --> 02:36:01.040
<v Speaker 4>Cut too.

2982
02:36:01.520 --> 02:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>One of the guys who beat the shit out of him,

2983
02:36:04.840 --> 02:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>did all these things, went out of his way to

2984
02:36:06.840 --> 02:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>make his life hell to the tone of him getting

2985
02:36:09.399 --> 02:36:12.399
<v Speaker 2>the FBI to investigate this dude, and then won the

2986
02:36:12.440 --> 02:36:16.760
<v Speaker 2>settlement that cop was fired, rehired. He worked for three

2987
02:36:16.799 --> 02:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>different departments. Later goes into a drug scandal where he

2988
02:36:21.840 --> 02:36:24.920
<v Speaker 2>murders four people, buries them on his land, gets brought

2989
02:36:24.959 --> 02:36:29.120
<v Speaker 2>to jail, and is probably the actual one that killed

2990
02:36:29.159 --> 02:36:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Epstein.

2991
02:36:31.520 --> 02:36:33.360
<v Speaker 4>It's crazy. It's very crazy.

2992
02:36:33.360 --> 02:36:35.920
<v Speaker 2>When I first heard about Klay Tiffany, I thought this

2993
02:36:35.959 --> 02:36:37.559
<v Speaker 2>would be a fun one for us to look back in,

2994
02:36:37.799 --> 02:36:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, to look back at what a conspiracy head

2995
02:36:40.360 --> 02:36:43.360
<v Speaker 2>from the nineties was talking about on his public access show.

2996
02:36:43.399 --> 02:36:45.479
<v Speaker 4>I honestly didn't think there was gonna be much to it.

2997
02:36:46.319 --> 02:36:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Boy, oh boy, the more I peel back the layers

2998
02:36:48.239 --> 02:36:52.959
<v Speaker 2>of this onion, the more it just became super prevalent

2999
02:36:53.840 --> 02:36:58.159
<v Speaker 2>and very pertinent to the conversation that is happening right.

3000
02:36:57.959 --> 02:37:00.440
<v Speaker 4>Now in our world. So with more and more of

3001
02:37:00.440 --> 02:37:02.440
<v Speaker 4>these things happening with the Epstein list, I thought it

3002
02:37:02.479 --> 02:37:03.879
<v Speaker 4>was a really good one to talk about.

3003
02:37:04.559 --> 02:37:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I agree. I knew nothing about mister Clay, and I'm

3004
02:37:07.920 --> 02:37:10.799
<v Speaker 3>glad that I do now and it's showing more layers

3005
02:37:10.840 --> 02:37:15.079
<v Speaker 3>to a web that I didn't even know existed. Honestly,

3006
02:37:15.239 --> 02:37:17.799
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know the backstory of any of this

3007
02:37:18.079 --> 02:37:19.760
<v Speaker 3>or how we got to the point where we are now.

3008
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<v Speaker 3>So I'm glad as we're leading into the Epstein update

3009
02:37:23.520 --> 02:37:26.239
<v Speaker 3>that this is our backstory and at least it shows

3010
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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more to the ever crazy mess that

3011
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<v Speaker 3>is the Epstein Files.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, good cult members, we want to hear what you

3013
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<v Speaker 2>have to say about this topic and hopefully this sparks

3014
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<v Speaker 2>some research on your end. Google is available right now,

3015
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<v Speaker 2>YouTube is available, all of the sources that we used

3016
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<v Speaker 2>for all this which we also cite our sources. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>about Clay Tiffany your boy tartag leone. Does RFK have

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<v Speaker 2>a connection here? Was he guilty in killing Epstein? We

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