WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:01.600 Dam Meter. 2 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.599 Welcome to the show once again. You've been on a 3 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:06.480 number of times over the year. 4 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:10.199 Yes, we have. I've been. We've been fortunate to find 5 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:11.599 some things of human interest. 6 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:14.679 I would say, yeah, and uh, what's uh right. 7 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:17.559 Off the bats, Since we're gonna be on the YouTube here, 8 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:18.879 why don't we talk about about that? 9 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:20.280 What am I looking at? 10 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:25.199 Well? Right now we're working in my gallery space down here, 11 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.719 my little studio. I've ha g had the privilege to 12 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:33.359 be given for auction the basically the archives of al Cap. 13 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:35.240 I don't know if you were familiar with al Cap. 14 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:38.960 He was the cartoonist. True he uh his his daughter, 15 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.439 who was in her uh early nineties, had called me 16 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:44.840 up to sh show me some few things that she 17 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:46.679 wanted to uh pot with. They hit a house on 18 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:48.479 Park Avenue in New York, want to Braddle Street and 19 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:51.200 Cambridge and wann appear in Southampton, New Hampshire, and all 20 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:53.039 this stuff was brought up to South Dampton, New Hampshire, 21 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:54.719 and she sh it was time to get rid of 22 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:56.840 some of the I it was kind of decorated stuff 23 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:58.600 that they had. Hi he had hired a decorator to 24 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:00.799 do these other places. So she's giving me that, And 25 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.039 as I was looking around the house, I saw a 26 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:05.920 lot of things that pertained to her dad, his cartoon 27 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.760 work and things with dog pat Patch and Lil Abner 28 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:10.159 and all that kind of stuff, And I said, would 29 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:12.120 you ever consider selling some of this? And she's, you know, 30 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:14.799 she's you know, I think I think I would, you know, 31 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:18.480 because she had so much stuff. So here we are. 32 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:22.400 I was given the opportunity. She liked my proposal, and 33 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:24.159 I've been working on it for quite a while now. 34 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:26.480 It's been quite another I've dealt with a lot of 35 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:29.519 situations where I've had to deal with archives, you know, 36 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.680 for President Kennedy and things like that, all of these 37 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.640 massive quantities of pay per photography, all that kind of femera, 38 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:40.560 and this one beat them all because it's pieces. Would guess, oh, 39 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:45.000 if you was panned this area, there's thousands and thousands 40 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:49.359 and thousands of documents, legal things, photography, just photographs alone. 41 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:52.560 This thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of things. 42 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:55.519 So you know, one filebox like this and this probably 43 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:59.680 forty something of those, each one contains how many thousands 44 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.400 pieces the paper? And you know, so I've had to 45 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:02.480 and I have to read it. I have to know 46 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:04.239 what I'm doing, you know, put it all together, and 47 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:05.959 I have to make some sense of it. So I'm 48 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:07.560 doing it trying to do it kind of like in 49 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:11.400 a chronological He was a cartoonist from the thirties right 50 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:14.680 up till he finished the strip in nineteen seventy seven. 51 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:18.039 He died in seventy nine, so it spans like fifty 52 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.759 years of cartoons. And I found a bunch of originals, 53 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:24.439 you know. I have all of his tear sheets and 54 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:27.439 proofs and all that kind of stuff that they had 55 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.400 saved from his studios. And I actually even have his 56 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:33.919 desk that he did the cartoon. Yet, I have two 57 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:36.080 of those, his chair, one of his chairs that he 58 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:38.240 used to sit in to do. So it's going to 59 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:41.319 be if. I mean, I know, people think of cartoons 60 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.039 and they think of Marvel and all of the more 61 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.800 contemporary things. But people that might have more gray here 62 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:49.800 might remember a little bit about Sadie Hawkins day and 63 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.560 all things that became common in our language, words that 64 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.319 he basically invented. So it'll be fun, it'll be interesting. 65 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.479 So anyway, that's where we are we're dealing. I'm just 66 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:00.000 sit down here working on this right now. 67 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:03.159 I will treat our audience to follow up with this 68 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:04.360 as that auction. 69 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:06.800 That'll be fun, It'll be it'll be interesting. I have 70 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.680 no idea time a year. I should have already had 71 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:15.199 it already, but it's been so complex putting this together. 72 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:18.319 It'll be this year. It'll be this year. Yeah, yeah, 73 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:19.919 oh yeah, that's not. 74 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.120 Why we're here. We're here to talk about a bible. 75 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:27.800 But before that, can you explain cause we talked I 76 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:30.879 believe before the Kennedy auction. 77 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:34.080 That was incredible. It was the longest auction I do 78 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.319 believe on live Auctioneer's history that they are well. And 79 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:39.039 I was watching until two or three. 80 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.759 You were texting me in the middle and like Dan 81 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:46.199 five thirty five thirty. 82 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.680 I had to do because people would not stop. 83 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:50.039 The bids just came here. 84 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.639 It was incredible. But let's talk about you were on 85 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:54.680 the Today. 86 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:56.719 Oh yeah, amongst of other things that we were just 87 00:03:56.759 --> 00:04:00.240 talking a little earlier and talking about interviews and kind 88 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:01.639 of thing. And I said that was the scariest one 89 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.400 because that was live in front. Well, yeah, they I 90 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.319 when when the news broke about the first big Kennedy 91 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:09.960 auction that we have. This was the dap POWs. He 92 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.639 was the best friend of the curator. Yep. Yeah. So 93 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:17.600 uh when that first the news first broke, I'm at home. 94 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:19.680 It was like eight o'clock in the morning. It had 95 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.680 come out in a newspaper. Came out in a local newspaper. 96 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:29.360 We had done an interview to taget the well. NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, 97 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:33.160 and CNN, all five networks were immediately calling here and 98 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:36.720 all wanted to offer us time. They wanted us to 99 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.279 do interviews. Well, I chose I had to choose one 100 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:41.439 over the other. I mean, I was on all of them, 101 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:43.240 but I had to choose one to go live to. 102 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:48.560 And the best avenue was the Today Show. And so 103 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:50.800 they they sent cars up for me, my wife and 104 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:52.720 the dog and brought us down. It was a whole 105 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:54.879 big ring roll. But that was the scariest you know, 106 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:55.600 that was live. 107 00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:02.439 You know, let's let's tell the audience what that jacket sold. 108 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.879 It was six hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. 109 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:05.519 What it was. 110 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.319 It was John F. Kennedy's one of his bomber jackets, 111 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:11.560 you know everybody's familiar with. He always wore this leather, 112 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.279 brown leather bamba jacket. Had the Presidential seal on it. 113 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.800 This was one that he had given gifted to day Powers. 114 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:20.240 He had given one to Bobby Kennedy, his brother, he 115 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:22.399 had given I think they were I forget how many 116 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.240 they were, but there were a few. And anyway, this 117 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.319 was a prize one and it was Dave Powers's. 118 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.680 Dave Powers was his assistant. 119 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.959 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, in the White House, he was 120 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.240 his assistant. But they were friends since nineteen forty six 121 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.920 since he basically gave him the win for the House 122 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:41.439 of Representatives. Day Powers he transformed his campaign and made 123 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:43.680 it possible for him because he was supporting another candidate, 124 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:47.000 whoever day Powers was at the time. This was in Charlestown, Massachusetts, 125 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.720 and whoever Dave Powers said was the one that was 126 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:52.600 going to win, you know, and he had another candidate, 127 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:56.279 but John just had that charisma and that person and 128 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:59.240 he just transformed. They became best buddies. They're best friends, 129 00:05:59.279 --> 00:05:59.480 you know. 130 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:03.160 I was so surprised at how small that jacket looked. 131 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:08.079 Yes, he was very thin. He was very thin. It 132 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:09.920 was very thin. Tell you know, the medications that he 133 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:12.079 was on made him get heavier over time. 134 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:16.120 Well, you know, the for me and that auction was 135 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:20.680 absolutely incredible. The thing that was the most moving was 136 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.560 the document on the day in Dallas when he wrote, 137 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:24.480 our president is. 138 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:28.399 Oh my god. Yeah that that that that was the 139 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:31.519 whole plan of the day. All yeah, yeah. I opened up. 140 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:36.079 I'm at Dave Powers the Son's house, and uh me 141 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:39.480 and John McGuinness we both went. We went down to 142 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:42.879 uh view the things. You know, they had called so 143 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:44.519 other b's and Christi's and all these places. But then 144 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.000 they told they were told that they should contact us 145 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.759 because we were local and to see and so John 146 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:52.839 and I went over and it was sort of like 147 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.120 this ol cap stuff. There was just an overwhelming amount 148 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:56.839 of paper and documents and all that kind of stuff. 149 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:59.279 And each thing was, you know, very interesting in its 150 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.600 own merit. But I'm going through and this was just 151 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.079 in a filebox, just not separated out or anything else. 152 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:06.439 And I'm going through and I find this piece of 153 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.680 paper and that was all annotated. It was basically the 154 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:14.839 schedule for the day, and it gave line by line 155 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.160 as it happened. Dave wrote and you could tell that 156 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.959 he was probably crying. I mean, he was with him 157 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:22.439 when he was he was in the car with the 158 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:24.279 secret service right behind him when we show he carried 159 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:28.399 him into pocketing the hospital. You know, Dave was right 160 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.000 there for the whole I mean it was he was 161 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:33.439 best friends with him, you know, and you can tell 162 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.839 that the emotion and what was going on. So it 163 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:44.000 was very, very moving and that brought That's what I remember. 164 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:48.319 Yeah time, that was twenty thirteen because we did it 165 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.079 on the fiftieth anniversary of his pasty. And I may 166 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.560 be wrong enough, but that's it was around the Yeah, 167 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:54.279 it was around the end. 168 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.399 But anyway, that's all very fascinating. Thanks for the recap 169 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.439 of all that. But now I'd like to talk about 170 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:03.879 Now James is not here, but he helped you in 171 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:06.639 this situation and the angle of this. 172 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:08.000 The reason I want. 173 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.959 To do this is to say that it doesn't matter 174 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:15.199 where something starts when it comes really to bid it. 175 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:18.040 This piece started at. 176 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.000 One dollar doll like, so. 177 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:23.079 This is auction ninja, where everything starts at a dollar. 178 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:25.959 Now I use that, and I remember I got six 179 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:29.199 five hundred dollars for a set of speakers that started 180 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:29.759 at a dollar. 181 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:32.200 But this is a little different. Let's talk about what 182 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:32.600 it is. 183 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.159 So this was in a state that we go out 184 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:38.440 here at John mc innsruction years in Newburyport, Massachusetts, and 185 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:41.440 it was it was a typical type of a Yankee 186 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.080 collection in that we run into these situations quite a bit. 187 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:47.840 There was a death in the family. The gentleman passed away. 188 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:51.399 We were dealing with the heirs, the siblings, and he 189 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:53.600 was into nautical and maritime and all that kind of 190 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:55.799 So you walked into this house and it was full. 191 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:57.879 It's an old Yankee house and he was and it 192 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:00.000 wasn't just his, it was his father and his grandfather 193 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.159 before him, They all collect his kind of So you 194 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:04.360 walked in and there was a massive amount of stuff. 195 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:08.679 So Jay Williamson and I were in in. Our job 196 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:11.919 was to basically liquidate it and turn it into money, 197 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:14.080 and we use the platform auction Ninja, which we're just 198 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:17.399 talking about now and that and we were actually the 199 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.840 first in our area of New England, if not all 200 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:22.799 in New England to use that. We started right during 201 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.600 COVID and so we're the first the longest running of that. 202 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.240 But the thing that's key is we do we start 203 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:31.600 these things at a dollar. So when we're in doing 204 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.799 a situation like this and we have to explain to 205 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:36.039 the consigners, the people that are you know, coming up 206 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:37.279 with the states. We have to tell them this is 207 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:40.639 how we do. Just like you, you get a little 208 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:42.120 nervous when you say I'm gonna start ault. What do 209 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:43.840 you mean you'renna start adult, you know, and they're thinking 210 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.000 about things that might be worth two hundred three hundred, 211 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:47.960 you know, things like that, and it's like, no, no, no, 212 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.360 this works to our advantage. We don't put down any estimates, 213 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:53.639 you know, it gives people a clear mind. We don't. 214 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:57.120 There's no jading, you know, we're not We're not. Yeah, 215 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.480 we're not. We're not saying that. You know, you you 216 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:00.840 this is what we believe it is. And a lot 217 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.480 of times when we do in our regular like through 218 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.960 the other platforms that we use, we'll put down estimates, 219 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.080 but we keep them very low in a table, you know. 220 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.799 We do it kind of on purpose. Yeah, so yes, yeah, 221 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.399 So when we do this, we started at a dollar. 222 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:18.200 We've had situations in the past that we have sold 223 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.519 things for you know, we sold vehicles cause everything starting 224 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:22.279 at a dollar, and we'll sell them for twenty thousand, 225 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.840 thirty thou forty thousand. We sold the liquor collection for 226 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.840 forty something of fifty thousand. We've sold a pair of decoys. 227 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:30.559 Those brought fifty five or sixty five thousand dollars starting 228 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.039 at a dollar. So we go into this estate a 229 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:35.360 new report, the one that we're talking about here, and 230 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.240 there was a tremendous amount of maritime in nautical. But 231 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:42.240 in there there were Embarrassed's bookcases all over the house 232 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:46.039 and other bookcases, and they were full of books, and 233 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.799 the majority of them whereover yes, maritime and that kind 234 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:51.399 of thing for reference in things of a lot of 235 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:53.720 the turn of the century stuff, you know, around nineteen 236 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.000 hundred and things that related to that. But in the 237 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.559 collection of that I went through and I had to 238 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:02.399 make him make what my job is, I make it 239 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.960 into groups to try to make the most amount of 240 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.679 money possible. So that's what I do. Jake does the 241 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.120 cataloging and that kind of thing. So I'm going through 242 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:11.759 and my job is to break up hot the house 243 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:13.360 and figure out how we're going to sell this stuff. 244 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.840 So in that I found, probably i'd say maybe there 245 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:20.639 was a dozen to twenty early books early being you know, 246 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:25.480 eighteenth century, and most of them were nothing to speak about. 247 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:27.080 With stuff that we find all the time. You know, 248 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:28.639 people think just because it's that old, it's worth a 249 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:32.519 lot of it doesn't if they're religious or educational before 250 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:34.799 eighteen twenty, Yeah they're old, but they just don't command 251 00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:36.759 a lot of money. You know, there's just no if 252 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:40.440 it's exactly so you know, it's like, okay, they're fine. 253 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:41.879 You might get a hundred bucks for this, do you 254 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:44.679 know things like that, and some you might only get twenty. 255 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:46.960 You know, you know, it depends on condition. So in that. 256 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.480 Go ahead just a little bit, because I know a 257 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:53.159 lot of people and a lot of people that are 258 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:57.360 maybe listening have in their mind if it's old, it's valuable. 259 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:58.679 And that's not always the case. 260 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:04.799 No, there's a bunch of different rarity condition. I know 261 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.759 there's there's there's three, the three major things. I just 262 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:08.879 can't pay through the other one. 263 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:12.240 Well, the other the main thing is the ones that 264 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:14.919 are less produced, all right, so that you'll find things 265 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:17.960 that are pertaining to things of importance, and those are 266 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:20.159 the really rare things because the printing presses and those 267 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.679 things of those days, you know, it's very expensive proposition 268 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:24.440 to come up with the book. So that's why most 269 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.039 of them are educational most of them are religious because 270 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:29.360 you needed them for schools in the churches, right, So 271 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:33.000 that's why you find it. You know, that's that's common, 272 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.720 very very common. So's those other ones, that's what you're 273 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:37.440 trying to get at. Those are the ones that we command, 274 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:38.600 that command money. 275 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:42.679 Yeah. When I was I did the Josiah Bartletot. 276 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:44.360 You know, oh yeah, yeah, that was huge. 277 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:47.279 And yeah at that time, when I was doing my research, 278 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:51.720 I would see where he paid in his ledgers. He 279 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:57.320 paid like fifty cents for an acre of land and 280 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.000 he paid eight dollars for. 281 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:04.240 A book exactly. Yeah. Yeah, when you think what was 282 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:06.840 I think your your bed, chamber of things, you your 283 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:08.919 things to do with your bed. You know they used 284 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:10.679 to have the fighter but that have a key to 285 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:12.799 take that's you needed those things. You need your bed, 286 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:15.799 your bed, clothes, and you needed so those are things 287 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:22.200 that cost money. Those were their prize possessions. Oh yeah, 288 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:24.759 it's a little different than today. You know, what you 289 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:27.159 think about today is the other things that just but 290 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:29.799 those were necessities you needed to have, you know, and 291 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:34.120 that's that's that's uh, it's no, but that's it's very interesting. 292 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:38.120 So you so the Bibles are and what we're talking 293 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:41.559 about boiled down. This is a Bible. Okay, it's that 294 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.279 that we're going to be talking about here. And so 295 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:47.720 in that group of maybe twelve or twenty things books 296 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:49.200 and things like that, I had a stack of them, 297 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:51.480 and so we're going through and most and I saw 298 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.799 the Bible in there. You know, it's a New Testament. 299 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.360 It's it's you'll show pictures of it. I'm sure it's 300 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:59.159 just a regular book. And it was in not really 301 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:02.120 great condition, written all over. It was just the New Testament. 302 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:05.000 And it had a great date, all right, and it 303 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:07.799 was it was American, great date and everything. But we 304 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:10.559 looked up the publisher, you know, Jay Williamson. You know, 305 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:12.519 I made a stack of the early books. And then 306 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:15.159 so Jay, as he's gone along cataloging, he'll look up 307 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.639 to see what we can find out about it, just 308 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:19.679 in case if something that's really great or not. So 309 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:23.000 when you looked up this publisher that was in Boston, 310 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:28.279 it was Draper and Phillips, I believe of the seventeen seventies. 311 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:32.480 The most expensive book that you could find that he did, 312 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:35.279 which was not a Bible, this was just a regular book, 313 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:38.080 was three thousand dollars. So the most expensive one and 314 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:41.320 this is on eight books, which is usually high highway robbery. Yeah, 315 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.720 oh yeah, they're very high high. So that was the 316 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:46.559 most expensive you could find from this eighteenth century period 317 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.399 of this publisher. So like, hey, that's great, you know, 318 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:52.000 so we put it in separate, put it in separate, 319 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.279 because we did. If you looked at the sale, most 320 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:56.080 of them were groups, you know, I did you know, 321 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:59.440 a whole bookshelf first, multiple shelves, that kind of thing. 322 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:01.679 So this was one of the only books that we 323 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:05.360 put in singularly. And so when we did and we 324 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:10.720 put the auction uh basically live. Uh, the phone rang 325 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:15.039 right away and the first person to call was from 326 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:17.159 way out of state and they're like, we need what. 327 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:18.639 They were going to be coming out to pick up 328 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:20.720 some other things they bought from us at another sale, 329 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.320 and they said, would be possible for me to come 330 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.559 and look at the books. They didn't give anything specific, 331 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.120 but they just wanted to look like and I was 332 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:27.960 going to be around, so I said, sure, no big deal. 333 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:30.000 So he comes in and he's looking at the books, 334 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.960 and then it was kind of funny, you know, he's 335 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:34.080 looking at all the nautical things and everything. I mean, 336 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.279 there was some nice books there and uh, but then 337 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.360 he asked for the Bible. He says, where's the one. 338 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:41.480 I thought it was a little odd, you know, for 339 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.440 this was an antiquarian book dealer, and I'm thinking, what 340 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:46.879 the heck does he want? You know, I just thought 341 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:48.279 it was kind of funny. I'm like, oh, that's right here, 342 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:50.639 You're gonna pull all your show to him. He sits down, 343 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:53.120 all right, So this was my first indication, you know, 344 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:54.559 and this was a private showe I mean, I and 345 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.600 everybody there and uh, he sits in a chair and 346 00:15:57.600 --> 00:15:59.759 he's basically going through every page. Well I didn't realize 347 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:01.399 what he was doing it at the time, but this 348 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.919 particular book was not numbered. There were no page numbers, 349 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:07.000 so you had to go and make sure that each 350 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.639 page correlated to the next. So he's going through and 351 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:11.440 he's spent probably twenty minutes or so, you know what, 352 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.159 I'm thinking what that is? And I'm busy, I'm doing 353 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:14.840 other things. I mean, but I thought it was kind 354 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:18.320 of odd, you know. So anyway, we realize, you know, 355 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:20.840 he's doing that because he thinks it's you know, it's 356 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:22.759 probably a few thousand bucks right, you know, might go 357 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.200 maybe two thousand. You know, we're thinking in that category 358 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:28.080 because we saw the three thousand dollars price for another book. 359 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:30.399 But like I said, it's a Bible. I mean, it's 360 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.879 not gonna So time goes on. You know. When we 361 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:36.759 have one of these auction Ninja sales, we have them 362 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:40.639 online usually about thirty days, sometimes three weeks, sometimes a 363 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:42.360 month or whatever. Right, this one might have been a 364 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:43.840 I think we might have had this one off a 365 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.440 five weeks something like that, and that gives people plenty 366 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.519 of time. You know, we do our own marketing and 367 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.480 that kind of thing, and auction Ninja supplies us the 368 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:54.200 avenue to be able to have it online so that 369 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.919 people can go and search the auction, ask questions. They'll 370 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.960 call us for other photography whatever, right, and it gives 371 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:04.640 plenty of opportunity. That's why we're very very happy with 372 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:06.519 the way things can work and when we do that 373 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:08.039 because it opens up the whole world. That's why we 374 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:10.400 don't mind starting and stuffing at a stuff at adult. 375 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.039 You know, you started and it's like word gets out, 376 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:15.319 you know, the people and it's like, especially if it's 377 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:17.200 something great, they're gonna keep it to themselves or they're 378 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:19.960 gonna look for the people that need to know and everything. 379 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:22.880 So as time goes on, I have a few other 380 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:24.759 people coming looking at the books and everything, but nobody's 381 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:27.160 making a big deal out of it. And again, the 382 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.519 auction is online. Now everything starts at all. There were 383 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.799 no bids on the Bible. There's nothing on it. You know, 384 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:34.799 if you look at our sales, most of the bids 385 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:37.000 don't come in till the last couple of days, you know. 386 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:40.279 So you're looking at it and everything, you know, it's 387 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:43.160 just totally normal. It's what we totally expect and everything. 388 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:46.400 And a couple more people calling to look at the 389 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:49.039 books and stuff, and then we had a preview. And 390 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:51.799 then during the preview I had I had a total 391 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.799 of seven people that really were specific about this particular 392 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:57.160 Bible book. And so then I knew. I said, okay, 393 00:17:57.160 --> 00:17:58.759 well we're all set. This is gonna go for a 394 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:03.000 few thousand bucks. You know, I'm thinking, that's great, that's great. 395 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:05.000 I have no problem with two three thousand dollars. Right. 396 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:10.079 So the day of the auction, we had our last 397 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.279 preview and we had a good full house. There was 398 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:13.640 a lot of people. It was very very one of 399 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:16.480 the most active previews that we've had, and it was 400 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:18.720 in a beautiful location in New Report and very a 401 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:20.480