WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.480 It's night Side with Dan Ray on Wbzyston's Radio. 2 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.480 Welcome back to our number two of Nightside. Dan Ray 3 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:11.160 is off tonight, he'll be off tomorrow. Night should be 4 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:15.119 back on Monday. And when you call him on Monday, 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:19.839 ask him how his vacation went. I have a gentleman. 6 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:23.559 When you hear his name, it's going to take you 7 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:27.800 instantly to the world of news because for years and 8 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:34.399 years you heard him say, my name is blank blank 9 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:40.479 for ABC News. And I first got him to be 10 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:42.119 on the radio with me about a year and a 11 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:45.600 half ago, and I've had him on now. This will 12 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:49.600 be my third time with him, and I always enjoy 13 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:54.560 hearing him just retell stories of his career. Ladies and 14 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:59.079 gentlemen of Nightside, please welcome mister Bill dial Bill. Thank 15 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:00.960 you for saying yesterday coming back again. 16 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:05.480 Well, what a wonderful opening. That is just very beautiful. 17 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:06.439 Thank you so much. 18 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:06.840 Morgan. 19 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:12.480 So, what do you think about news climate of twenty 20 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:13.359 twenty four? 21 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:18.200 Oh, you must be talking about the election coming up. 22 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:23.599 I'm talking about everything that's happened over the past eight months, 23 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:26.799 and the election is definitely a part of it. 24 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:33.079 Yeah, yeah, we can talk about that. Yeah. In a 25 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:36.040 little bit. I did want to talk about something if 26 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:39.640 you'd let me. You know, I've interviewed some of the 27 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:46.480 greatest celebrities in our era, Yes you have, I mean, yeah, 28 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:53.439 including Elizabeth Taylor, and I never interviewed her personally, but 29 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.159 once you know, she was very involved. 30 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:58.439 In the age effort. 31 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:04.480 Why he was the nineteen nineties and so forth, and 32 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.680 they were doing a big thing at the Jabba Center 33 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:11.840 and I was there for that, so I never got 34 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:15.039 a chance to talk to her there, but I admired 35 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:19.639 her so much. And now on television, I think it's 36 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:26.719 on HBO and Max, they have a fabulous, fabulous program 37 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:34.919 called It's a documentary Elizabeth Taylor the Lost Tapes, YELP 38 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:39.280 with her own voice. There there was a man who 39 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:42.719 was interviewing her years ago, back I think in the 40 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:47.360 mid eighties, and so all of this is Elizabeth Taylor 41 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:52.159 talking and it's just beautiful to hear what she said 42 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:56.919 about her life with Richard Burton. You know, she was 43 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.000 buried how any times? Eight times? 44 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:01.439 In twice Richard Burton. 45 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:10.240 Yeah, and she stole h Eddie Fisher from Debbie Reynolds. 46 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.439 So there's a lot to talk about. But that's a 47 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:17.879 terrific program. It's well done, and again it's it's now 48 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.439 out on HBO and HBO Max. 49 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:27.879 Well, when you think about her image and you compare 50 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:32.039 that to Debbie Reynolds, I can understand how Eddie Fisher 51 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:35.599 allowed his head to be turned. I won't go into 52 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:39.240 any greater detail than what I just said, but it's 53 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:43.960 a very believable turning of Eddie Fisher's head away from 54 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:50.439 Debbie and towards Elizabeth. Was I tactful enough and now 55 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:51.159 I said that. 56 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:52.879 Mm hmm. 57 00:03:54.599 --> 00:04:00.240 She of course really loved Mike Todd, who was an 58 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:05.240 imversario in the movie business. He died in a plane 59 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.360 crash and I think that really crushed her. She was 60 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.280 so unhappy about that. But anyway, that's Elizabeth Taylor, who 61 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:18.519 I just wanted to mention great films. Of course, uh 62 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:22.480 as we all know Cleopatra having a hot ten roof. 63 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:29.199 Uhs, I said, Betterfield eight. 64 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.639 Yeah, I loved her in that. 65 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:37.360 Yes, she she in the camera had a mutual love 66 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:42.160 affair for each other. And that goes back ahead. 67 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:47.920 We last talked Morgan, we've lost some some biggies in 68 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:52.480 the business. One that maybe your audience wasn't familiar with, 69 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:57.720 but Fischer was doctor Ruth Westtheimer Doctor Ruth. 70 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:04.360 She did a. 71 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:11.000 Program on radio and television called Sexually Speaking, and she really, 72 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:13.480 you know, let it all hang out, don't know doubt 73 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.800 about it. She was quite something, only four foot seven. 74 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:21.759 She was a Holocaust survivor, yes, and so I really 75 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:26.720 enjoyed interviewing her a couple of times. One other person 76 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:30.439 that I would like to mention because I'm on WBZ, 77 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.079 Dick Summer died not too long ago. 78 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.759 He was a friend of the show, a friend of mine. 79 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:39.560 I had him on at least a half a dozen 80 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:45.040 times over the years. And boy with somebody tailor maid 81 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:50.639 to do radio, to communicate with this medium and do 82 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:53.000 it so smoothly, Dick Summer. 83 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:56.439 He had a beautiful delivery, beautiful voice. 84 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:56.879 Yes. 85 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:03.199 After WBZ, he worked at several other stations, including WNW 86 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:06.399 in New York, where I got to know him quite well. 87 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:11.040 But I really miss people like that on the air. 88 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.480 And he was special, no doubt about it. 89 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:18.439 I really. Right now, I closed my eyes and he 90 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:22.399 did a TV commercial for a lawyer's office, a Bender 91 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:26.360 and Pender, and I can hear his liner right now, 92 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:32.319 the way he would just say bender and Bender. I 93 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:36.920 just it was he had a fingerprint voice, as you do. 94 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:38.600 You have a fingerprint voice. 95 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:43.399 Well, I've never heard that term before, because that's very 96 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.720 nice of you to say that, after so many years 97 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:52.879 in the business, a fingerprint voice. Yes, I'll have to 98 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:54.000 tell my wife that. 99 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:57.120 All right, you have my permission to use that. Let 100 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:00.120 me take my first break of the hour. You've you've 101 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.279 already got a phone call online, and I'll mention the 102 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:05.680 phone numbers if anyone else wants to call in and 103 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:11.000 speak with this gentleman. You've heard his liners for years 104 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:15.519 here on BZ and depending on if you're not from Boston, 105 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.040 because we hit thirty eight states, I'm sure you've heard 106 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.959 Bill deal ABC News six one, seven, two, five, four, 107 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.079 ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty. 108 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.759 You want to call in and join our conversation four 109 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.680 roughly the next forty five minutes. Please do time and 110 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.920 temperature here on Night Side. Heard on BZ nine point 111 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:40.759 fifteen sixty five degrees. 112 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.439 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 113 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.600 Life Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 114 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:53.560 Dan should be back on Monday. He's been on vacation. 115 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:57.839 I've been very fortunate to get as many of the 116 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.480 Dan Ray eight to midnight shifts that I have gotten. 117 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.399 I had my first a week ago on Thursday. I 118 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:08.279 was here Monday, I was here last night. Obviously, I'm 119 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.800 here tonight, and i'll be here tomorrow night. And right 120 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:14.680 now I'm joined by a news legend, mister Bill Dial 121 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:19.040 ABC News, among other things. And Bill, your book is 122 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:20.279 still available, is it not. 123 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.360 There's a couple of books that are out. One is 124 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:30.959 called Celebrity Chatter fifty years of my many interviews, So 125 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:34.440 the more recent one, did they really say that? The 126 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:40.360 great quotes from famous people like Catherine Hepburn for instance, 127 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:45.720 of course she said, I've had regrets. Unless you're an 128 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:51.639 absolute moron, you have regrets. You know, life's tragic at times. 129 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:55.200 I've had my share. Well, it's that kind of a book. 130 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.799 It was a fun book to write, all right. And 131 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:02.879 by the way, I'm on something. I hope maybe you're 132 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.919 listeners do this now. And then I love flea markets. 133 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:12.960 My wife anger angry at me, okay, because she says, 134 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:18.080 don't bring anything more home, But I love going to 135 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.240 flea markets. How about you? 136 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:25.720 There used to be one on the Rainndom Taunton Line, 137 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:30.320 which is about maybe twenty five miles a bit south 138 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:34.960 of Boston and was called the Raindom Flea. And I 139 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:38.679 used to go there and pick and choose, and there 140 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:42.799 were nickknacks that really I didn't need, but I would 141 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:45.320 buy them and bring them home anyway, because that's what 142 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:50.240 a flea market is for. Something entice you to reach 143 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.519 into your wallet and pull out a couple of bills 144 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:57.519 and buy this. So by that nick knack, tell you what. 145 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:00.440 Let me take a phone call Doreen and Chell. Okay, 146 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:03.919 you've called, and uh, welcome to night Side. 147 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.120 Doreene, him Moregan, how are you? 148 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:08.799 I'm fine, Don and you. 149 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:15.720 And your to your guest, mister Scale Scale. There was 150 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:19.720 a flea market in Vea. We had those cinema shows 151 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:24.080 were at one time. I know right now it's no 152 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:28.879 longer there because Amazon now is there. 153 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:37.200 Flea markets are kind of fading away, and whereas almost 154 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:44.919 most major communities had one within their environs, and now five, ten, fifteen, 155 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:50.480 twenty years later, they've dwindled. You can't really find them anymore. 156 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.240 I'm sure they still happened, but they're not as commonplace 157 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:55.840 as they once had been. 158 00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:06.799 No stal Go ahead, No, I'm sorry, I interrupted, that's 159 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:07.240 all right. 160 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.440 Morgan markets in New York that are still very popular. 161 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:19.320 The one is on the West side of Manhattan. Another 162 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:24.480 one is in Chelsea, which is in down in Lower Manhattan, 163 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:28.039 and I try to stop at it, both of them 164 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.919 every once in a while. I need a celebrity, believe 165 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.879 it or not, at a flea market. Bernadette Peters is 166 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:36.919 the great singer. She was at a flea market not 167 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.679 too long ago and I said, well, well, what are. 168 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:40.399 You doing here? 169 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:43.360 And she said, well, my jeweler is here. You know, 170 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.840 a lot of jewelry is very popular at flea markets, 171 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:49.639 and so she wanted to meet her jeweler for something 172 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:50.720 that she was buying. 173 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:57.360 It's ironic you mentioned Chelsea because there's a community just 174 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:01.600 off of Boston all right next to the airport Chelsea, 175 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.200 mass So we've got to Chelsea and you just mentioned 176 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.120 and that's where Dorene is from, because I have her 177 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:14.000 name and her community on my computer stream. So you 178 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:16.759 talked about Chelsea and Dorene is from Chelsea. 179 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:18.320 Yeah. 180 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:23.440 And and Morgan, I want to tell you that you 181 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:27.840 have most unique voice yourself. 182 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:29.360 Well, thank you. 183 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.679 It's always a pleasure talking to you and your guests. 184 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:39.399 You have a lovely guests all the time important guests. 185 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:43.360 And I shall talk to you next time, Doreine. 186 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:45.720 I look forward to the next time we speak. Thank 187 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:51.440 you for making this moment happen. You enjoy your Thursday 188 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.080 all right? Now, you want to talk more about the 189 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.840 quotes that are in your second book Bill, anyone else come? 190 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:04.000 You mentioned Katherine Hepburn, any others come to mind off 191 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:04.879 the top of your head. 192 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:07.799 Lily Comlin. 193 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:16.519 Uh, she was so great and she's still alive. Thank goodness, 194 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.080 Lilly said to me, I'm reading from my book right now. 195 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.320 I never dreamed of stardom growing up. But my neighbor's 196 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:25.080 in Detroit. 197 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:34.799 Uh uh do we lose Bill? All right? Rob, Rob 198 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:38.720 endeavor to reconnect. I remind him just where he left off. 199 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.039 And people, if you want to call in six one, seven, five, four, 200 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.879 ten thirty or eight eight eight nineteen nineteen thirty, you 201 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:51.360 do that next hour. We've got Susan Brigman, who wrote 202 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:55.120 a book about all the interesting stops along Route one 203 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:59.000 north of Boston. That Route one, and Bill you you 204 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:03.320 left off by saying Lily Tomlin's quote back from her 205 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:04.399 days in Detroit. 206 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:10.080 Yeah, she said, my neighbors were a lot more interesting 207 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:14.720 than Rita Hey were with her Atlanta Turner. I was 208 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:17.799 just happy, she said, making the living, and these people 209 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:19.440 were gratifyed. 210 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.600 And she had had a great career, exploded upon the 211 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:30.639 public scene. Would laugh in many great movies in her career, 212 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:37.039 and her last series that I'm aware of was West Wing, 213 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:42.519 which was the President's Secretary, and that was a very 214 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:47.240 memorable role for her. I hope she got a kick 215 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:49.799 out of playing that role of Debbie the President. 216 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:53.759 You're absolutely right, Jane Fonda. Of course, she's still with 217 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.159 us the I think. 218 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:56.360 Eighty five years old. 219 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:56.960 Wow. 220 00:14:57.159 --> 00:15:00.559 And I loved her viewing her. 221 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:04.440 But you know, the thing that really kind of took 222 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:06.559 me back, as you know, she's got. 223 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:09.000 The label hanoid. 224 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:12.240 Jane, Yes, but she said, you know, I'm gonna go 225 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:16.519 to my grave with that quote that I said that 226 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.360 I was on a gun and northree of them, I'm 227 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:24.200 sitting there. So it's things like that that you think 228 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:30.039 about when you're interviewing people over the years. 229 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:35.720 And there are some people whose popularity explodes for a 230 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:42.399 core of years, but they outlive that particular pinpoint in 231 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:45.799 their career. And they're still here, as you mentioned with 232 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:49.720 both Lily Tomlin and Jane Fond. And Jane Fond, who's 233 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.279 looked upon as one of the most beautiful women in 234 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:56.440 the world, Yeah, in her twenties, but now that she's 235 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:03.120 in her I'm getting I've seen late seventies, early eighties. 236 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:03.960 Is that accurate? 237 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:07.960 She's eighty five, right, She's. 238 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.440 No longer looked upon as being the most beautiful and 239 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.559 one of the most beautiful women in the world, but 240 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:17.799 she's scratched down shore. Interesting still, yep, yep. 241 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:24.720 I interviewed Christopher Reeves many years ago, who played obviously Superman, 242 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.720 but you know, he talked about his one of jumping horses, 243 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.600 and I thought about that because I was watching the 244 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:39.399 horses at the Olympics and it's going on right now, 245 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:44.039 and he said that he was well trained to the sport. 246 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:45.639 Only two years. 247 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:50.600 Later he became paralyzed from that awful, awful accident he 248 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:55.000 had a horse helping exhibition. So you think about things 249 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:59.360 that kind of flip out during interviews, and they come 250 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:00.240 back to haunt too. 251 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:06.839 And that type of accident is more frequent than we 252 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.640 hear about, but we hear about it when it's a celebrity, 253 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.440 the status of a major actor like Christopher Reeve was, 254 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:22.839 and being paralyzed from the fall from a horse happens 255 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:28.680 a lot more than you read about. They still want 256 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.839 to do it. They want to, you know, jump those fences. 257 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:38.359 I know they're called oxs. Yes, I have, yes, I have. 258 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:45.039 Every today that one of the runners who won uh 259 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:47.119 was running with cold. 260 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:53.240 And collapsed, collapsed as soon as the finish line. They 261 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:54.759 had to put them in a wheelchair. 262 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:58.960 Yeah, And that's they. 263 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:05.680 Is sport. That is what sport is, pushing yourself to 264 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:10.200 the limit and then finding just another smidgen of energy 265 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.200 to go beyond the limit. 266 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:20.200 Real, I ask if you're talking about celebrities now, Erica 267 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:27.240 jon who was the flying Oh boy, you were ready 268 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:30.359 up on some things that surprised me that you will 269 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:30.880 remember that. 270 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:35.319 II. So my job, and I take my job seriously. 271 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:38.279 And you know, speaking of my job, I'm right at 272 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:41.759 a break time. So we'll pick up with whatever carment 273 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.640 you're about to make about Erica on the other side 274 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:48.279 of the news. And anyone who wants to call in 275 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:53.079 six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine, two, 276 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:56.640 nine ten thirty, you can speak with Bill Dial and 277 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:05.599 he is dropping names, well known names from our mind 278 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:09.039 and culture and history. You want to call in and 279 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:14.400 maybe proud build a mention somebody that he has chatted with. 280 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.319 That will put a smile on your face hearing this 281 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:21.559 story about their name being mentioned here on Nightside. My 282 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:25.880 name is Morgan, filling in for Dan Ray. Time and 283 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:31.680 temperature here at BZ nine thirty sixty five degrees. 284 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:39.119 It's night Side Radio. 285 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:42.200 I'm Morgan filling in for Dan. Dan should be back 286 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:46.240 on Monday. Bill Deal is my guest. And Bill, you 287 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:48.359 get a call from your neck of the woods. Gary 288 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:51.680 in New Jersey has called in to speak with you 289 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:52.880 here on Nightside. 290 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:58.319 Gary, Good evening is our signal getting to the New Jersey. 291 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:02.960 Uh, well there. I live in rural southern New Jersey 292 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.319 and I listened to you guys on a transistor AMFM 293 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:10.200 radio and I have to sit in a certain spot 294 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:11.440 and then I get it. 295 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.039 They still radios. 296 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:21.359 I have, Yes, I'm an analog man in a digital world, 297 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:25.799 the feeling. But what I did have was the question. 298 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.319 I grew up in Brooklyn and I listened to New 299 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:32.839 York radios. I'm in my seventies, Okay, and what I 300 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:35.400 want to know is what happened that they sort of 301 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:38.960 abandoned the medium. I remember as a young kid, I 302 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:43.079 used to listen to Jean Shepherd every night on WOOR. 303 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:46.680 I remember, you know, in my house there were certain 304 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:50.680 times that the radio was on listening to certain personalities, 305 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:54.079 and it seems that they've kind of just abandoned it 306 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:56.839 most of the time. I mean, like your show, I 307 00:20:56.920 --> 00:20:59.440 like to listen to you when you're on, you know, 308 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:03.400 because it's not all politics, and it seems that's what 309 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.720 it's become, is, you know, just something about politics, whether 310 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:10.680 it's right or left, and there's a lot of the 311 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:12.839 entertainment value seems. 312 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:17.839 To be done youtely right though. Color So you know, 313 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:23.319 you mentioned Gene Shepherd, one of the great radio storytellers. 314 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:25.160 I loved listening. 315 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:31.759 To him r New York years ago, you know, but 316 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:34.400 there were others too. I used to listen to one 317 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:38.160 station you might remember it WMCA that a guy on 318 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:40.759 in the middle of the night, long John Neville with 319 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:45.240 his wife can and they had crazy stuff on, but 320 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.640 it was so entertaining, and I think it's lost a 321 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:51.079 lot of that zip radio today. 322 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:55.759 I love your comment and analog man in the digital. 323 00:21:55.400 --> 00:22:00.920 World doing quite well. My head. 324 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:05.880 Gary, I will say this, I've been with BZ since 325 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:11.880 the mid nineties. I have never ever been pointed in 326 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:18.319 a direction by my bosses. I have had to adjust 327 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:21.519 at times I've been on the air. I was on 328 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:25.039 the air of the night that someone tried to assassinate 329 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:31.519 Donald Trump, so the show I had planned, I tabled 330 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:35.240 that and I had to focus on that particular incident. 331 00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:39.680 I was on the air when the Lewis and Maine 332 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:46.119 circumstance happened last fall, and Nicole Davis, who's doing news 333 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:49.920 tonight here on BZ, she and I had to focus 334 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:56.319 on that because that was an evolving story. That story happened, 335 00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:59.240 I do believe it was a Wednesday, and by Friday 336 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:05.400 there was the inevitable solution to that story. But the 337 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:09.039 key was I was filling in for Dan Ray that week, 338 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:11.960 and the things that I had planned I had the 339 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:16.240 table and pushed to the side. But usually I do 340 00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:20.480 things that are much more comfortable for people to listen. 341 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:24.599 Let me tell you you have a variety of guests. 342 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:29.000 I do about certain things that people might not even 343 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:32.559 think are interesting. I mean, you had that one guy 344 00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:34.880 comes on about the records and everything. 345 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:35.680 Yes, I do. 346 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.960 I'll tell you what. We don't have enough of that today, 347 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:43.160 and we don't have we don't have enough radio personalities 348 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:48.000 anymore that speak to you and not at you. And 349 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.799 I think we've I think a lot of the young 350 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:54.119 people today missed out on something that was really good. 351 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:59.960 Well, I'll say this and then Bill make his carment. 352 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:05.079 But the world of radio just a generic five letter word. 353 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:09.480 Radio is not what it was when I was a kid, 354 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:15.400 elementary school, junior high, high school, college, sixties seventies. It's 355 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:19.799 not what it was then. And I do the best 356 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.720 I can to try and keep in touch with the 357 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:24.480 way it used to be. Bill, Do you have. 358 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:26.720 Any comment you're doing it now? 359 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:29.039 We've got more election coming up. We're going to have 360 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:32.799 a lot of talking heads, and your listener from New 361 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:37.200 Jersey knows what I'm talking about. So we've just got 362 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:42.160 to try to get back to the conversations between us 363 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:44.200 and stop yelling at everybody. 364 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:50.200 Absolutely absolutely, well, listen, you guys, have a good night. 365 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.799 And it was a pleasure talking to you, Jerry. 366 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.519 Thank you for the call. You keep listening, Okay, I. 367 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.119 Certainly do, all right, I got to be in one 368 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:01.519 spot of the house to get you guys. 369 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.680 Well, make sure you've got food and beverages in that 370 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:05.640 one spot for you. 371 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:06.440 That's fine. 372 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:08.880 Good night, Thank you. 373 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.480 Garrety, good night to you too, and Billy, do you. 374 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:14.799 Have any other quotes that you want to share in 375 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:17.720 my audience? O, Well, before you went to the break, 376 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:22.279 we mentioned Erica joons Yes, We're a flying and I 377 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:26.119 asked her if she could live her life over again, 378 00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:28.200 she said. 379 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:30.599 I would not care at all what people thought of me. 380 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:34.960 I would be born knowing what I know. Now, that's 381 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:38.160 what you think of yourself, that's important. I would never 382 00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:41.480 read my reviews, neither the good ones or the bad ones, 383 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.720 and care far less about being liked and being loved. 384 00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.279 Do what I had to do in the world with 385 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:51.200 the what they wish for approval. 386 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:53.119 She once told me. 387 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.400 She said she tried to rent a house up in 388 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:00.240 Connecticut and they wouldn't rent it to her because, as 389 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:04.119 they said, oh, you're those show business people say you're 390 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.240 gonna have big parties all the time. 391 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:14.559 Well, that's the front foot, not necessarily leading you to 392 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:18.079 where it needs to be. And your quote from Erica 393 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.200 reminded me a little bit of the Kipling quote from If, 394 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:28.160 and I'm paraphrasing about good things and bad things and 395 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:32.759 treating those two impostors just the same. And that's that 396 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.079 last line is a direct quote from that poem. And 397 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:42.200 that's life. You can't get too smiley happy when compliments 398 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.079 come a way, and you can't get too frownie sad 399 00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:51.000 when detractors get their points across. Do the best you 400 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:52.279 can to keep an even keel. 401 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.440