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<v Speaker 1>It's time for tech Talk.

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<v Speaker 2>The machines are getting smarter.

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<v Speaker 3>This is tech Talk, brought to you by sky net.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Salzman is our friend from the Great White North,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rock of the North.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I happen to be in your fair country right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you on the East Coast?

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I'm leaving New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>I I was in New York for an event with

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<v Speaker 3>a company called High Sense, a big TV company primarily

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<v Speaker 3>I've probably heard of them. They do my television, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they do. They have a lot of bang for the buck,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like and and big, like eighty five and

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<v Speaker 3>ten inch TVs Wow without breaking the bank.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And my one of my twins, Jacob, who's turning twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three in July, he's never been to New York. So

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<v Speaker 3>I took him and so we're at in the lounge

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<v Speaker 3>at Newark and uh yeah, we had a We had

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<v Speaker 3>a really packed forty eight hours. We did everything from

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<v Speaker 3>a Knixt game and the MoMA Museum to Central Park

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<v Speaker 3>in Times Square to Trump Tower and the financial districts.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a lot of fun. It was really great.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you do the smart hack where you stayed in

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<v Speaker 4>Hoboken and you had the view of Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good hack, but no, we did not, was

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<v Speaker 3>taken care of by high sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We did turn to Google and say we were going

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<v Speaker 3>to do Empire State Building. But it was really cloudy

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<v Speaker 3>and rainy yesterday. So I didn't want to really spend

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<v Speaker 3>the mifty box each to go if the view is bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not that I'm cheap, but I just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if the view is bad, and then what's why spend

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<v Speaker 3>the money? So I googled best free view of best

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<v Speaker 3>view of New York skyline for free, like best balcony view,

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<v Speaker 3>and it took me to a library that had the

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<v Speaker 3>most awful view. It was like a brick wall, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I have to get in there and like yelp that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>because that was not.

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<v Speaker 1>What a cruel trick ex New York tourists. You accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>went to sart has them dot Google dot com?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I must have yeah or Snopes you know

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<v Speaker 3>the anyhow. Yeah it was but it was a really

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<v Speaker 3>great trip. So yeah, so I was here seeing some

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<v Speaker 3>new TVs. But you know what's dominating a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the tech headlines, Uh are the is this twenty three?

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<v Speaker 3>And me bankruptcy, as you know, so I thought we

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<v Speaker 3>might chat about it to help KFI listeners and iHeart

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<v Speaker 3>listeners manage their info if they've uploaded their DNA to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three and meters probably heard on on Sunday they

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<v Speaker 3>announced that they're going bankrupt They're filing for Chapter eleven protection,

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<v Speaker 3>and that they are likely to sell all of their assets,

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<v Speaker 3>which includes your personal DNA info and health markers unless

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<v Speaker 3>you delete the information. So, uh, this is It's obviously

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<v Speaker 3>an upsetting situation for many. Both twenty three and Me

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<v Speaker 3>and ancestry dot com are very similar in the sense

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<v Speaker 3>that it'll help you unlock your family history and find

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<v Speaker 3>potential relatives, but twenty three and me goes above and

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<v Speaker 3>beyond that by providing netic health reports and trait reports.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is even more concerning understandably for many.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I happened to have used twenty three and meters to

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<v Speaker 1>find DNA relatives, and I noticed that the site itself

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<v Speaker 1>went down on Monday. I mean because our Attorney general

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<v Speaker 1>here in California had suggested people request that their information

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<v Speaker 1>be deleted, that their saliva sample be destroyed so that

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't get lost. What is the concern that what

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<v Speaker 1>could somebody do with my genetic information?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So first of all, you're right that so many

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<v Speaker 3>people went to the website to delete their information that

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<v Speaker 3>the servers got overloaded on Tuesday twenty three, and me said,

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<v Speaker 3>everything's fine, and it's a pretty simple process to download

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<v Speaker 3>your info and then delete it. So the issue, I

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<v Speaker 3>think is just that you have no control when a

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<v Speaker 3>company says we are going we are forced to sell

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<v Speaker 3>our assets that includes your personal information. We don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what's going to be done with it. Disgui's a limit,

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<v Speaker 3>it's your DNA, you know. I mean, once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest concern was that, you know, there's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a forensics investigation and you're going to have to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, inadvertently like tell like that, you know, give

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<v Speaker 3>information to the police that your cousin is a serial

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<v Speaker 3>murderer or something. You know, like all this stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>we gave away that we didn't really realize when we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't read the t's and c's. But now it seems that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like we don't know who the buyer will

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<v Speaker 3>be and what's being done with your personal data. I

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<v Speaker 3>just think it's disconcerting to not know what's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 3>you know with it it's your personal DNA markers, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it can go either way, and without even

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<v Speaker 3>getting too sci fi, it could be things like cloning,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, you never know it's you, it's your sample.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know why anybody would want that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but I mean your point. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time wrapping their head around what could. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what the future holds in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of TI technology and what it would be

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<v Speaker 1>used for. And you're saying it's better to be safe

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<v Speaker 1>than sorry down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm not trying to be like purposely vague.

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<v Speaker 3>It's we just don't know. It's one thing right now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's our you know, identity theft is very real, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's without any bio information Like this is just from

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<v Speaker 3>financial information that you're volunteering. Imagine having your genetic makeup

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<v Speaker 3>out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It might sound like science fiction, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>just it's just smarter to download and delete the data

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't have to download it first, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, if you just want to Google twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>and meters delete data or just if you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>good memory, just go to and maybe that's part of

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<v Speaker 3>your genetics. Bestive memory is just go to the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three and me website, go to settings, click on data,

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<v Speaker 3>and then view and then you have an option to

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<v Speaker 3>delete data, and then you're going to be asked to

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<v Speaker 3>double check it. It'll say permanently delete data, and you'll

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<v Speaker 3>confirm your requests and then the process is similar for

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<v Speaker 3>that sample that you mentioned, your saliva sample, you also

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<v Speaker 3>have to go to settings and then preferences and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Delete all that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's up to you if you if you don't care,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're like whatever, you know, let them do what

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<v Speaker 3>they want with my then you don't have to panic.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not suggesting you panic, but I believe that

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<v Speaker 3>we should be in control of our information. And yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we opted for these services like you did, Gary, And

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<v Speaker 3>I used ancestry dot com and I've found relatives, so

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know. I you know, I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of good to these services. But when you hear

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<v Speaker 3>of a company that goes under that has fifteen million

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<v Speaker 3>people in its database, that's a little scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I know that there's an option, isn't there

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<v Speaker 1>to download the information so that I can keep it myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I guess it's similar to what I said was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what would the threat be? What would then

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<v Speaker 1>I what would I then use my genetic information for.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to show it at parties or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, if you're not using it to find relatives,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you've already gotten the answers that you wanted

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<v Speaker 3>about your any health marks that you may be predispositioned

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<v Speaker 3>for that you may want to act on, then it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a matter of having it like within your you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on you and with with within your what's the expression,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, uh lock bomb here? Basically, yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 3>upload it to a secure cloud. You can password protect

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<v Speaker 3>it and keep it offline. It's basically, you've got it,

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<v Speaker 3>you own it. It is not for everyone. If you

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would download it if I had an option,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than just delete it blindly, just in case you

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<v Speaker 3>ever need it in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>You may have a medical professional that asks.

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<v Speaker 3>To see it that could help unlock something that can

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<v Speaker 3>help you live longer, lives healthier, and they ask for that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>did you ever do any of those DNA taks? Can

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<v Speaker 3>I see it? And you have a you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>vetted physician who's able to uh to tell you, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to use it responsibly, then you've got it. If you

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<v Speaker 3>delete it without downloading it, then you don't have anything, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, you do it again. If you have

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<v Speaker 3>to do it again, it's you know, but you already

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<v Speaker 3>have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And there's nothing on their website currently, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that says anything about the bankruptcy. It doesn't say anything

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<v Speaker 1>about what their plan is. You can still buy the packages,

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<v Speaker 1>at least at least they're still advertising.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, exactly exactly. They did just confirmed that they

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<v Speaker 3>have to. The quote is that they are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be quote substantially selling all of our assets through a

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<v Speaker 3>quarter tru of reorganization plan.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all they've said that.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like they're still selling their kits, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, good old Sunnyvale, California company. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>what's going to happen, and we'll see what's going to

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<v Speaker 3>happen ancestry dot com. But you know, don't panic. But

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<v Speaker 3>just I would just be responsible and download your info.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty easy to do so at the website.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and also, don't panic if you missed the flight.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you stay in the United States long enough, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>escort you out, just so you know exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, ice is breathing down my neck.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Mark Saltzman, thank you so much, safe travels, I

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<v Speaker 4>hope time.

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<v Speaker 2>Than keep for having me. Well chat next Thursday as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You bet.

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<v Speaker 1>Follow Mark on X of course, m A r C

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<v Speaker 1>Underscore Saltzman. He's got great tech tips and he's also

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