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<v Speaker 1>All right, twelve oh eight, welcome in me. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is the average American in for the great American on

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<v Speaker 1>this Thursday. I hope you're having a great day wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you are. Nobody's having the kind of day that Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State football coach Ryan Day has had so far. He's

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<v Speaker 1>signed a seven year deal up in Columbus. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make twelve and a half million dollars a year, all

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<v Speaker 1>for winning a national championship. No way that deal gets done.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, Michigan came back in November. Hey man, live

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment, get what you can, right. Well, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen just at breakdeck pace here in less than three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>Trunk forty seven. And I mean it's not one or

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<v Speaker 1>two things a day, it's six or seven things a day,

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<v Speaker 1>not the least of which is trying to buy the

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza Strip. And of course Elon Musk is doing a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive into where this country is spending money and

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<v Speaker 1>how it's wasting money. And for some reason, the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least the more vocal Democrats, have chosen that

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<v Speaker 1>hill to die on. And it makes you wonder why

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<v Speaker 1>anytime you have a business that is losing billions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>yet its cash flow is still fairly strong. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>literally what's going on in this country. We're trillions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars with the tea in debt, and yet our cash

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<v Speaker 1>flow is relatively strong. I mean, half of this country

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<v Speaker 1>pays income tax to say nothing about what the GDP generates.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact of the matter is, anytime you have

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<v Speaker 1>a situation like that, any auditing company, any accounting company,

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<v Speaker 1>would come in and do what is known as a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive into finances and to find out where this

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<v Speaker 1>is being spent, why it's being spent, and what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do so that that money is not being spent frivolously.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently there's a lot of money being spent frivolously,

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<v Speaker 1>and that has the Democrats all up in arms. And

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<v Speaker 1>it makes one wonder, why can't everybody just look at

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<v Speaker 1>this country and say, you know what, we all live here,

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<v Speaker 1>we all breathe the same air, we all drink the

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<v Speaker 1>same water. Do we really want to be insolvent and

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<v Speaker 1>at some point the cash cow falls over and goes dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't people get along and understand there is a goal,

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<v Speaker 1>and the goal is the common good? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought about that a lot in the last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I thought about a man by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Kennon Spivak, who I have on this show quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. He writes for a number of different outlets,

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<v Speaker 1>including Real Clear Policy. You see him on a number

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<v Speaker 1>of national cable shows. And again again, I've had Kennan

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<v Speaker 1>on before, and then I saw him on a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>about talking about the very same thing. He has great

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<v Speaker 1>friends in his life that aren't Democrats. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat at one time, and now he is a republican

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<v Speaker 1>conservative in his voice, but at least open minded to

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<v Speaker 1>things that might be of beneficial to everybody, Democrats, independence, Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to get him on today to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about that, how we can't all see

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<v Speaker 1>the greater good. And so it's my great pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome on in here to seven hundred WLW. Kennon Spivac.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you on this glorious day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great, Ken, and I'm really glad to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you, if anywhere in this world right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennon, I am in Palm Beach, where I admit I

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<v Speaker 2>attended one of my conservative covens, the annual dinner of

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<v Speaker 2>real clear politics. Uh, but we did this morning talk

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<v Speaker 2>about getting along with people who don't always agree with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched today. I don't know if you saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have been involved with the shakers and movers

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<v Speaker 1>that are down there. But I watched today the National

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<v Speaker 1>Prayer Breakfast, which I had the honor of attending a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times when I worked in Washington, DC. And

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<v Speaker 1>I heard the president President Trump talk just about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he cited many members of Congress that were there

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides of the aisle. It was a more

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<v Speaker 1>subdued Trump. He can't help himself. He gets off the

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<v Speaker 1>rails every now and again, but by and large, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a conversation of look, you don't like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I'm doing. I don't like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that you're doing. But remember why we're

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<v Speaker 1>all here. We're trying to do the country's business. And

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<v Speaker 1>although he can be a cerbic at times, he can

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<v Speaker 1>be sarcastic at times. I noticed on this podcast, you're

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<v Speaker 1>from Brooklyn. I'm from the East Coast as well, spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my youth there. It's a different kind

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<v Speaker 1>of humor. He is from Queens, New York. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>different kind of humor that has often misinterpreted. But it

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<v Speaker 1>just it seemed to me that that's really where this

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<v Speaker 1>country needs to go. And I think it's fairly evident

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<v Speaker 1>where this country wants to go in the wake of

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<v Speaker 1>the November elections, So why can't it go in that direction?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it really should be able to. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the things this election proved is that people of all

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<v Speaker 2>ethnic backgrounds, people of all religions, all thing just came together.

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<v Speaker 2>And how they voted. Now, by the way, some voted

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<v Speaker 2>for Harris, some voted for Trump, really didn't see a

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<v Speaker 2>division along the lines that were accustomed to thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>those divisions. Now, there was some economic divisions, and there

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<v Speaker 2>were some education divisions that were a little bit more rigid,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's not who people are on the day they're born.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not how people first off identify themselves. And we

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<v Speaker 2>really ought to be able to see that there is

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<v Speaker 2>for most people common objectives, and for most people there

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<v Speaker 2>is more or less an agreement on the facts. And

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<v Speaker 2>if we can agree on objectives, and if we can

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<v Speaker 2>agree on facts, even if we continue to disagree on

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<v Speaker 2>some of the methods and best ways of getting there.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get along a whole lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. In fact, again, I'm not sure the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast you were on, but you mentioned a great

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<v Speaker 1>you had a great line, and it's not an original.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've heard it before. Everyone is entitled to

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<v Speaker 1>their own opinion, but not everyone is entitled to their

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<v Speaker 1>own facts. Facts are facts and they don't change. But

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<v Speaker 1>people seem to gravitate to these echo chambers that give

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<v Speaker 1>them affirmation for what they believe, and they seem to

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<v Speaker 1>reject places where they give them information. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably where this uniting of this country needs to begin.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to somebody else besides the folks that are telling

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<v Speaker 1>you what you believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Well, first to give credit to the podcast, it

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<v Speaker 2>was the Conversation on the Immigrant Storyteller Channel, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of fun doing that podcast. The quote

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<v Speaker 2>is from Daniel Patrick moynihan you pointed.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, which is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I started out as a Democrat. I worked for a

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<v Speaker 2>Press secretary when Daniel Patrick moynihan won his election to

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<v Speaker 2>the US Senate. And the line that people are entitled

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<v Speaker 2>to their own opinions, but not their own facts. Comes

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<v Speaker 2>from Daniel Patrick moynihan, a man who work in both

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<v Speaker 2>for Republican and Democrat administrations, a man who, by today's

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<v Speaker 2>standard many people would think should be a Republican. What

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<v Speaker 2>he really was was a centrist, maybe even slightly center

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<v Speaker 2>right Democrat, except on socialists, where he was clearly a Democrat.

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<v Speaker 2>And there really are only one set of facts. There

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<v Speaker 2>are multiple sets of opinions. You can look at the

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<v Speaker 2>same facts and come to a different conclusion as to

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<v Speaker 2>the best way of solving things. An example, I gave

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<v Speaker 2>him a podcast, and I think it's a good example.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's any questioning the fact that a

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<v Speaker 3>About the child.

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<v Speaker 2>All of those have a different chance in life. You

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<v Speaker 2>can either therefore, conclude that the solution is diversity, equity

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<v Speaker 2>and inclusion and programs based on race and hiring and

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<v Speaker 2>promoting and contracting with people without regard to meritocracy. Or

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<v Speaker 2>you can conclude that the best path forward are education

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<v Speaker 2>program that support programs to allow everyone to achieve their

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<v Speaker 2>full potential, but without making decisions that ultimately benefit people

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<v Speaker 2>based on race and disregard their qualifications and experience. I

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<v Speaker 2>come out of the second camp. I understand that people

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<v Speaker 2>come out of the first. But whatever camp someone comes

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<v Speaker 2>out in, we should start by recognizing what the real

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<v Speaker 2>issues are, what the real facts are, because we disagree

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<v Speaker 2>about those like people who think that the plight of

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<v Speaker 2>whites to dominate.

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<v Speaker 3>Over them, which is just not true.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're going to evaluate these things off of wrong

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<v Speaker 2>beliefs and facts that are in facts, will never get

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<v Speaker 2>to a common ground.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. And the only word I can think

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<v Speaker 1>of in the wake of that is trust. And it

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<v Speaker 1>almost nobody trusts each other, I think, and certainly in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. I think you wrote an article I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say two three weeks ago for real clear politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Centrist democrats can't get past tds and the left, and

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<v Speaker 1>you highlight the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Centrist Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>opposed correspundent district attorneys. Centrist Democrats believe DEI has gone

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<v Speaker 1>way too far, even though some of that is not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a bad thing. You get into the way Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>and Republicans view things like Israel, pro choice, pro life,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it might be. But it's trust, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to when you extend a hand, as we're hoping will

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<v Speaker 1>happen in Washington at some point in our lifetimes, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have the trust that that hand won't be

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<v Speaker 1>like nobody wants to take that first step, and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to take the trust that what they believe may

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<v Speaker 1>be some sort of common ground on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you get trust if there is no trust?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? First, I think that this what Richard Nixon

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<v Speaker 2>used to call the silent majority. The vast majority of

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<v Speaker 2>Americans have maybe not trust in government, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>more trust in other Americans and in other people than

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<v Speaker 2>we would think by looking at the activists and what

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<v Speaker 2>they have to say. Second, I think that the biggest problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't say this because I'm the conservative. I

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<v Speaker 2>say this because I observe people, and I have many

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<v Speaker 2>friends who are liberals. The biggest problem is not liberals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's far left progressives who will take the head off

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<v Speaker 2>of anyone, even another fellow progressive, who in any way

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<v Speaker 2>shows accommodation to the center or the right. So put

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<v Speaker 2>that twenty percent of America to the side for a second,

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<v Speaker 2>and put to the side maybe you know five percent

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<v Speaker 2>on the far right that do the same. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>much smaller group that there are people that do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>That middle is most Americans. It's most of us. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the people who make a living, who run the country,

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<v Speaker 2>who will elect the politicians. I think that center group

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<v Speaker 2>they don't need to form a new party. They can

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<v Speaker 2>stay as Republicans and Democrats. They just have to force

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<v Speaker 2>their elector representatives to understand what they want is to

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<v Speaker 2>achieve common goals, not just keep fighting and not just

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<v Speaker 2>keep attacking each other. The longer the far left keeps

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<v Speaker 2>attacking some of the social issues on which Donald Trump ran,

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<v Speaker 2>the longer it's going to be before the Democrats can

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<v Speaker 1>I know you mentioned this in the podcast. I referenced

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you get anywhere doing that. You go

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<v Speaker 1>And what Elon Musk is doing right now is just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely throwing the Democrats into an absolute rage. Chuck Schumer,

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<v Speaker 1>who I know. Your mother and his mother have a history.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew each other many many years ago. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that is listening that would listen to that podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, twofold and is one very small way. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>They want to protect the deep state. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>protect the administrative state. For the most part, Musk is

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<v Speaker 2>going after those parts of the federal government which have

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<v Speaker 2>tilted very very far to the left, like USA, and

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<v Speaker 2>There is some ambiguity, though Trump has tried a bit

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<v Speaker 2>to write it, on whether Musk's role is as a

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<v Speaker 2>or whether he's making decisions he should not be making decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not an elected official. Now, the president can delegate.

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<v Speaker 2>But to the extent that what Musk is doing is

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<v Speaker 2>providing all the information and the capabilities of executing on decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I agree one hundred percent. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've had far too much in this country in the

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<v Speaker 1>last five years, decision made by people that were appointed,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had no voice in their ability to make

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<v Speaker 1>decisions for you and me and everybody else. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to run. The next time I have you on, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you because in a previous life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did not know this, you work for MGM Universal.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea and you had some purview over

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best movies that were ever made. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I right about this? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Mgm UA we made Rainman, James Bond, Rocky, Pink Panther,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's and I want to you know what, and

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<v Speaker 1>it holds true to my philosophy, Kennan that everything in

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<v Speaker 1>life runs through Cincinnati because Rainman was filmed here in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>A large part of it was filmed right here in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 2>I now that you remind me. The answer is yes.

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<v Speaker 2>See I think everything runs through Cincinnati because of Procter

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Probably true too. Look, I'm great to have you on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know we cut into your time down there

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida, but you've got plenty of time to have

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<v Speaker 1>lunch and rub shoulders with the shakers and movers Kennan Spivak.

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<v Speaker 1>You can read them all over, but certainly at real

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<v Speaker 1>Stay well, my friend, we will talk down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you great, Thanks by night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true Rainman was filmed right here in Cincinnati, right

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<v Speaker 1>long Columbia Parkway, Dustin Hoffman, Tom Cruise film, part of

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<v Speaker 1>at the Greater Cincinnati Airport. But he's right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, the luck has got to get past

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<v Speaker 1>Trump arrangements. You lost. The reason why you lost is

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<v Speaker 1>what you're screaming about right now. Stop it. Find somebody

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<v Speaker 1>core beliefs are and stop acting like idiots. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>that not? Why is that not more evident now than

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<v Speaker 1>what it was on November fifth? It's startling, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who the savior is for that party.

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<v Speaker 1>It's somebody, but man, I haven't found it yet. And

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<v Speaker 1>as far as what Musk is doing, Hey, look we're

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six trillion dollars in debt. Only half of this

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<v Speaker 1>country pays income tax. I'm one of them. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know where my money's going. Anybody know where

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<v Speaker 1>the money went to Ukraine? Anybody vote for that? How

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<v Speaker 1>many know? How many people know where that money to

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine went? Hell, the Ukrainians don't even know where it went.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of this other stuff with usaaid and

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<v Speaker 1>the nonsense that we're funding unbeknownst to us with those dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd bet I want to do a deep dive. I

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<v Speaker 1>think most rational people will. Anyway, it's twelve twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>a laugh listening to our newscast a couple of minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Landsman is he's afraid that there won't be any

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<v Speaker 1>federal workers left, or there'll be so many that resign

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<v Speaker 1>that the business of the government can't get done. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, it's not going to happen. They're under what

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<v Speaker 1>their projections were they wanted pluss I check, what was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Forty thousand? You realize how big the federal government is,

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<v Speaker 1>how many employees the federal government has. I think Greg

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<v Speaker 1>like Chuck Schumer did, let's get more people interested in

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<v Speaker 1>where are money's going. Apparently Elon Musk is now going

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<v Speaker 1>to go after Doze, is now going to go after

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<v Speaker 1>and stand by for the yelling and screaming on this.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to go after medicated Medicare. And you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the Democrats say, oh, they're going after your Medicare,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna take it away. Granting is gonna die, He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna have enough. No, it's not what's happening. He's

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<v Speaker 1>looking at just how bloated those services are and how

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fraud that goes on inside the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he's doing. It's not like Elon Musk is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go in there and take away somebody or

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's money. He's not doing that. It's eyes only, and

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<v Speaker 1>it reports back and then Trump does what Trump thinks

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<v Speaker 1>is best, and then they go about it and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than standing on the steps of the capital and

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<v Speaker 1>you're screaming in an unhinged manner, which is what I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Democrats do yesterday, they ought to be as concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about this stuff as republicans. UPI reported more than one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred billion dollars and in proper Medicare and Medicaid payments

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<v Speaker 1>were made in twenty twenty three. Not to you, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have coming, but to people that are double dipping

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<v Speaker 1>or they're dead. Fifty one point five billion with Medicare,

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<v Speaker 1>That's about forty three percent of all improper payments in

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<v Speaker 1>the government. That's what he's doing. He's saying, look, look

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on here. But I still find it fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>why Democrats are so worked up over this. What do

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<v Speaker 1>they know that we don't know yet? Oh, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to know where the money's going. Money's going for

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<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl on Sunday, It's going towards at this

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<v Speaker 1>point Kansas City. This line is morphed from Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>Over under on this game is forty nine and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. There's a lot of interesting prop bets.

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<v Speaker 1>There are prop bets that can be made with this game.

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<v Speaker 1>And standing by to help us with that is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that I've known forever. I mean forever it's going well,

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<v Speaker 1>not forever. That's an overstatement. Elon Musk would come to

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<v Speaker 1>me and say, wait a minute, that's an overstatement. Get

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<v Speaker 1>it back on the rail. So I would say I've

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<v Speaker 1>known Joe Fortenbat for at least fifteen years and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>closer to twenty and I have him on the show

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<v Speaker 1>every now and again. He is the money guy on

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN right now. You can find him on ESPN dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find him on ESPN's betting shows normally between

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<v Speaker 1>bounds since I first saw him. I first met him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to get him on now to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about the wagering on this game. Joe Fortenbaugh,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you on this glorious Thursday, Ken, I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 4>I can always count on a few things.

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<v Speaker 5>In my life, just if you, and one of them

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<v Speaker 5>is that I'm gonna hear from you, a friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Of mine, twice every year. I'm gonna hear.

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<v Speaker 5>From you in August because we're gonna preview the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm gonna hear you right before the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 4>About the Big Gates. So it's always an honor to

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<v Speaker 4>come on your radio show. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're here now. You mentioned the Bengals will

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<v Speaker 1>get it out of the way. Would you consider them

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<v Speaker 1>them a disappointment this year?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I love this team.

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<v Speaker 5>I love them, And I'm not saying that because of

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<v Speaker 4>Hit a home run at the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>Position and you got it.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you have that, you've gotta be able to

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care if it's because of a slow start,

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<v Speaker 5>a defense, referees offensive line, I don't care, Like it

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<v Speaker 5>just doesn't matter, Like that's not a player that should

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<v Speaker 4>Some of these guys that get in.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, absolutely, I mean Jamar Shat had a huge season,

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<v Speaker 5>The weekend that Josh Allen is going against Lamar Jackson,

420
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<v Speaker 5>Burrow needs to be going against Mahomes and vice versa.

421
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now, listen, if the Bengals had made the playoffs,

422
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<v Speaker 1>do you think Burrow would get serious consideration for MVP

423
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>if he's not already getting it now, because it sounds

424
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<v Speaker 1>like Lamar Jackson is going to get this thing. But

425
00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:58.880
<v Speaker 1>if they had made it, do you think that would

426
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<v Speaker 1>have enhanced his ability to be a contender for the MVP?

427
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<v Speaker 4>Without question?

428
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<v Speaker 5>As you know, I'm a bit of a gambling man myself,

429
00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:10.839
<v Speaker 5>and we studied this market every single year, and what

430
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.119
<v Speaker 5>we know about this market is that two criterias stand

431
00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:18.680
<v Speaker 5>out involve all else Number one playing quarterback. Number two

432
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:20.720
<v Speaker 5>being a one or.

433
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<v Speaker 4>A two seed. Making the playoffs would have helped them.

434
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<v Speaker 5>But when you go back, it's something like sixteen of

435
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 5>the last seventeen have been a quarterback.

436
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.759
<v Speaker 4>The one dissenter is Adrian Peterson, and.

437
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<v Speaker 5>Then it's something along fifteen of the last sixteen don't

438
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<v Speaker 5>quote me, but it's close are either a one or

439
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<v Speaker 5>a two seed, and predominantly.

440
00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:39.559
<v Speaker 4>A one seed. Now this year, that's going to be

441
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<v Speaker 4>interesting because I think Lamar Jackson's going to win it.

442
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<v Speaker 5>If you look at the history of the voters, the

443
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<v Speaker 5>voters who vote for all pro tend to be the

444
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<v Speaker 5>same voters who are voting for MVP, and if Lamar

445
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:53.960
<v Speaker 5>Jackson was named First Team All Pro, reason could show

446
00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:56.240
<v Speaker 5>us that he's going to end up winning the MVP

447
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.200
<v Speaker 5>as well. So Burrow making the playoffs definitely would have

448
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 5>improved the odds. But to not make the postseason the

449
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:03.799
<v Speaker 5>first thing people are going to argue, and it's no

450
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.200
<v Speaker 5>fault of Jos, but the first thing they're going to

451
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:08.240
<v Speaker 5>argue is, well, how valuable can you be if they're

452
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<v Speaker 5>not even in the playoffs?

453
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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I know, I know, and it's it's as

454
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<v Speaker 1>it is.

455
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<v Speaker 3>It is.

456
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<v Speaker 1>It's totally wrong, but it's a great analogy there about

457
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.599
<v Speaker 1>what you've got, what your team's got to do to

458
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>help you get something like that. But listen, so this

459
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>game is it's a Chiefs minus one and a half.

460
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<v Speaker 1>That tells me that line is probably gonna morph a

461
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<v Speaker 1>little bit before game day? Does that tell you the

462
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<v Speaker 1>same thing?

463
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<v Speaker 5>This is interesting because the thing with this is it's

464
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<v Speaker 5>been sitting here all week, and normally the Super Bowl

465
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.279
<v Speaker 5>line gets pounded early and then we're done with it.

466
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<v Speaker 4>But we're not dancing around.

467
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<v Speaker 5>Any key numbers, right, key numbers being three, seven, six, ten,

468
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:45.000
<v Speaker 5>numbers like that.

469
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<v Speaker 4>When it comes to the point spread. So I'm looking

470
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<v Speaker 4>at this and I'm thinking to.

471
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<v Speaker 5>Myself, Okay, I got a feeling we're gonna see Philadelphia

472
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<v Speaker 5>money at some point. I think the guys are waiting

473
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<v Speaker 5>to see how good of a price they can get

474
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<v Speaker 5>with the Here's what I mean by that. Most people,

475
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<v Speaker 5>if you look at some of the guys who model

476
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.279
<v Speaker 5>this stuff, they have this game either pick them or

477
00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:09.680
<v Speaker 5>they might have Philly.

478
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<v Speaker 4>As a small favorite.

479
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:13.720
<v Speaker 5>Problem is, if you're a book maker, you can't hang

480
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:18.160
<v Speaker 5>that price because you'll get crushed with Chiefs money because Mahomes.

481
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.799
<v Speaker 4>As an underdog. The public loves Mahomes all that stuff.

482
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 5>So it's not just about setting a good number. You

483
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:24.920
<v Speaker 5>got to be able to balance your books. You got

484
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:26.400
<v Speaker 5>to be a bookmaker and an.

485
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<v Speaker 4>Odds maker, right. You got to come out with a

486
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.599
<v Speaker 4>smart price. So what we saw in the AFT Championship

487
00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 4>game was very telling.

488
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:35.480
<v Speaker 5>Buff Kansas City was minus one and a half minus

489
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 5>two all week, less than forty five minutes before kickoff.

490
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.200
<v Speaker 5>All this Buffalo money came in and knocked.

491
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<v Speaker 4>It down to pick up.

492
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.799
<v Speaker 5>That was sharp professional money coming in on the bills.

493
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 4>The Eagles are power ranked higher than the Bills, and

494
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:49.799
<v Speaker 4>this game is on a neutral.

495
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:51.799
<v Speaker 5>It's not an arrowhead, so I think the same thing

496
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:52.279
<v Speaker 5>is coming.

497
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Speaker 4>I think there's going to be Egle money. I think

498
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<v Speaker 4>the guys are waiting.

499
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<v Speaker 5>To see what's the best price they can get on

500
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<v Speaker 5>the Eagles, and then at some point, as we get

501
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:01.640
<v Speaker 5>close to the kickoff, you're.

502
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 4>Gonna see that money hit the market.

503
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 5>That's my prediction for how this goes.

504
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I'm with you on that completely. I just

505
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you and I have seen this too many times to

506
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>not believe that's exactly what's going to happen. It always

507
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:15.839
<v Speaker 1>seems to be the end because the guys that are

508
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>smart wait till the end. Right. They're not laying They're

509
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>not laying anything right now. They're waiting. They would wait.

510
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>They wait as long as they can, right.

511
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<v Speaker 5>It depends on what numbers we see. There are some

512
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<v Speaker 5>years where when you throw out a point bred at

513
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.519
<v Speaker 5>three and a half, they might jump in on the

514
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 5>dolls because they're gonna anticipate that money and they want

515
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 5>to be on the right side of the key number

516
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 5>of three. This number sitting one and a half is

517
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.039
<v Speaker 5>a little bit of a dead zone. Same thing with

518
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:42.559
<v Speaker 5>the total it was sitting forty nine and a half.

519
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 4>Usually, if you like the under, you wait.

520
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.119
<v Speaker 5>Until close to the kickoff because the public isn't going

521
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:49.839
<v Speaker 5>to bet the under. The public wants to bet on

522
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Speaker 5>action and scoring. They're gonna bet the over, So you

523
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.119
<v Speaker 5>let them get involved late and they push the number up,

524
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 5>you get a better price.

525
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 4>We're starting to see some under money. Now keep that

526
00:27:59.079 --> 00:27:59.359
<v Speaker 4>in mind.

527
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.160
<v Speaker 5>It's just a little It went from forty nine and

528
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Speaker 5>a half to forty nine, but that's very telling to me.

529
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 5>I think what that tells us is there's a thought

530
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 5>process that we are not going to see a lot.

531
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.880
<v Speaker 4>Of possessions in this game. Philadelphia is gonna run.

532
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 5>Philadelphia likes to bleed the clock in between plays, and

533
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 5>when Kansas City's out there, it's gonna be short thinking,

534
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 5>dunk eat intermediate passing routes, and I think they're going

535
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 5>to want to try to keep the Eagle offense off

536
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.839
<v Speaker 5>the field and try to wear down that Philadelphia defense.

537
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 5>So I think it's going to be a much slower

538
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.319
<v Speaker 5>game than people anticipate as a result limited possessions, limited plays,

539
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's less scoring than people realize. I have not

540
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 5>bet the under, but I think that's why you're seeing

541
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 5>under money.

542
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm going to lay this one on you too, because,

543
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, Philadelphia likes to run the ball. Barkley

544
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.039
<v Speaker 1>averages I think one hundred and sixteen hundred and seventeen

545
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 1>yards per game, or at least he did through the

546
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>regular season. The projection on him to prop on him

547
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 1>is ninety three and a half yards in this game.

548
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting this from DraftKings. Everybody is saying bet the under.

549
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>It my one eleven. I kind of feel it might

550
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>be the under simply because Kansas City plays the run

551
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 1>so well. It's like four four point one yards per run.

552
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Barkley goes off in this game,

553
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>do you.

554
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.319
<v Speaker 5>Chiefs are number eleven in the league in defensive rush

555
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 5>success rate.

556
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 4>Spagnolo is obviously going to have a.

557
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.200
<v Speaker 5>Great game plan for how to attack Saquon Barkley. It's

558
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 5>not like Spags is coming into this game saying we

559
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:26.240
<v Speaker 5>need to shut down the Eagles passing attack, everything else

560
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:27.160
<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter.

561
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 4>Like they know what the Eagles want to do. If

562
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 4>you get beat through the air, so be it.

563
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:31.880
<v Speaker 5>But you can't get beat on the ground.

564
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's what Philly's coming for.

565
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:36.160
<v Speaker 5>This prop was as high as one twenty four and

566
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 5>a half, which was wild because only nine running backs

567
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 5>in history have done that and the Super Bowl gone for.

568
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.160
<v Speaker 4>What's twenty five or more and the last one was

569
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 4>Throughout Davis with the Broncos against the Packers.

570
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 5>In nineteen ninety eight, So keep that in mind as

571
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 5>this number is dropped.

572
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting.

573
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:54.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not involved in anything with Barkley right now.

574
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 5>His receiving pop will probably be.

575
00:29:57.799 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Two and a half perceptions.

576
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.519
<v Speaker 5>I'll probably go under that because he doesn't get too

577
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 5>involved in the passing game.

578
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.039
<v Speaker 4>But for the rushing prop, it's like, do.

579
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.160
<v Speaker 5>I want to bet against him knowing two long runs

580
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 5>can get him there? But do I want to bet

581
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 5>on them knowing Yeah, it's a lot of.

582
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 4>Yards in a big matchup and it's a really good team.

583
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 4>So I haven't done anything with him yet. Longest rush

584
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:18.960
<v Speaker 4>twenty four and a half yard.

585
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 5>I might just bet the over on that Kenny break one,

586
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 5>and I think that is a better approach to play

587
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 5>than the over under for his total yardage.

588
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Eagles run a lot of plays. They run a lot

589
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of plays. I don't know what they are in the leg,

590
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 1>but they were up somewhere around sixty plays per game

591
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 1>the last I looked, I just feel, you know, given

592
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>these weather conditions inside, it's gonna be perfect. I'm looking

593
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>for a big game from AJ Brown. I think the

594
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:47.839
<v Speaker 1>prop on him in this is four and a half.

595
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the over at minus one sixty eight. That's

596
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 1>what I saw on FanDuel earlier today. I think I'm

597
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 1>taking AJ Brown four and a half. I'm taking the

598
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>over on that at minus one sixty eight. What about you, okay,

599
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm right with you.

600
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 5>Sixty nine and a half is the receiving yards I've

601
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.039
<v Speaker 5>gone over. He's thirty to one to win MVP. I

602
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 5>always like to sprinkle a little bit on.

603
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 4>Some of the long shots.

604
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 5>He's one of my long shots this year at thirty

605
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 5>to one, and there's a there's an escalator where you

606
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.359
<v Speaker 5>can play him to go over one hundred and twenty

607
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.279
<v Speaker 5>five receiving yards. It's like seven to one. So at

608
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 5>ten dollars, bet pays seventy bucks. I would play that

609
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 5>as well. All right, Kansas City plays man coverage fifth

610
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 5>most in the NFL top five.

611
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 4>That's how much they deploy man coverage.

612
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 5>No receiver in the NFL has recorded more receiving yards

613
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:37.039
<v Speaker 5>per game.

614
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:38.799
<v Speaker 4>Against the band coverage than AJ Brown.

615
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:40.440
<v Speaker 5>Do you know one of the other guys who's great

616
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 5>against Dick Jamark Chase.

617
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:43.079
<v Speaker 4>He's right at the top of the list.

618
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:46.119
<v Speaker 5>Chase has more touchdowns against the band coverage than anyone.

619
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Brown has more yards per game six touchdowns for him

620
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.359
<v Speaker 5>as well. I think the matchup suits him, and I

621
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 5>think Jalen Hurts as you watch him, it's going to

622
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 5>get him those opportunities where Hurts drops back. He doesn't

623
00:31:57.880 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 5>like to throw over the middle of the field. He

624
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 5>chucked it down the sideline at boom, there's a J

625
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 5>Brown to make a play.

626
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 4>So I really like AJ Brown in this game.

627
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 5>The other one that's real popular is Dallas Goddards the

628
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 5>Philly tight end. Over four and a half perceptions, over

629
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.240
<v Speaker 5>forty nine and a half receiving yards. The Chiefs get

630
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:16.039
<v Speaker 5>decimated by opposing tight end.

631
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 4>No one's given up more yardage to opposing tight ends

632
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 4>than Kansas City.

633
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 5>And on top of that, Hurts has looked at Goddard

634
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 5>more in the playoffs than any of his other receivers.

635
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<v Speaker 5>So I understand that I'm looking for good things from

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<v Speaker 5>two different pass catchers, but I think those are the

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<v Speaker 5>guys Hurts is gonna target, aj Brown and Dallas Goddard.

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<v Speaker 1>I think both Hurts and Mahomes go over their their

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<v Speaker 1>total for passing yards. Hurts is one ninety six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. The prop on him is two thirty one

641
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<v Speaker 1>or the projection I'm here, I'm sorry, is two thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes two forty eight is the prop. The projection is

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty five. They're both Hurts I think is minus

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<v Speaker 1>one point fourteen if I'm not mistaken. Mahomes is minus

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<v Speaker 1>one ten. I saw both of those on Bet three

646
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<v Speaker 1>six earlier today. I'm going over with both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're saying they're going to be it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a more methodical, sloggy game as opposed to

649
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<v Speaker 1>this wide open, you know, blow him out. But I

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<v Speaker 1>still think at the end of the day, the other

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<v Speaker 1>than Barkley, Hurts is the best guy they got on offense,

652
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<v Speaker 1>and Mahomes makes everything go on offense for Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going over. I'm going over with these passing

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<v Speaker 1>yard totals. What about you.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll think about it like this Hurts his numbers really low,

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<v Speaker 5>Like if he throws and he's also an underdog.

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<v Speaker 4>So if the game script is him trailing Kansas City,

658
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<v Speaker 4>he's going to be throwing the ball, and he's got

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<v Speaker 4>a low total, and he's got plenty of weapons around him,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's indoors on a fast track.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, situation sets up very nicely, So I got nothing

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<v Speaker 5>wrong with that. I think one way to play Mahomes

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<v Speaker 5>is I was looking at over completions.

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<v Speaker 4>It was somewhere around twenty two and a half twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one and a half. Here's why I like the completion.

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<v Speaker 5>Vic Fangio's Philadelphia defense. They play this too high shell,

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<v Speaker 5>this covered two that he kind of started going heavy

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<v Speaker 5>with a few years ago when he realized we got

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<v Speaker 5>to stop giving up home runs to guys like Kyreek Hill.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the copycat league. Everyone started copying it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's why we.

672
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<v Speaker 5>Saw less scoring over the last few years and why

673
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<v Speaker 5>unders were hitting more frequently, because you don't have these

674
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<v Speaker 5>offenses hitting home runs like they were because of.

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<v Speaker 4>The two high safety look.

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<v Speaker 5>As a result, you can eat that two high safety

677
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<v Speaker 5>look up underneath dank and dunk, dank and dunk.

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<v Speaker 4>It works very well against these guys.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Eagles won't give up the home run, but

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<v Speaker 5>they will let you cut them up underneath.

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<v Speaker 4>Enter the completions prop.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Kansas City is going to struggle to run

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<v Speaker 5>the ball consistently in this game, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>the deep shots are going to work. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>an extension of their running game is going to be

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<v Speaker 5>the short passing game. I think it's just going to

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<v Speaker 5>be Mahomes three yards here, Mahomes five yards there, Mahomes

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<v Speaker 5>four yards there, as they work their way down the field.

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<v Speaker 4>Before you know it, you're over twenty two and a

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<v Speaker 4>half completions. So that's how I'm playing. Mahome.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you the richest man in broadcasting? Because you've got

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<v Speaker 1>all this still down you live in Vegas. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if you're the richest guy in broadcasting right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the thing about that is it all sounds so

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<v Speaker 5>good right before the game kicks off. Yeah, And then

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes I spent two weeks and spent all this time,

697
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<v Speaker 5>and you go into this game and it's the complete

698
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<v Speaker 5>opposite game script of what you thought, and none of

699
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<v Speaker 5>your stuff head and you're just in shambles by the

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<v Speaker 5>end of the day. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll talk after.

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<v Speaker 3>The Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe I will be the richest man in broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I love you. Joe Fortenball. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>him on ESPN most nice. I think around six or

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty, and then of course on ESPN Radio on

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon. Stay well, my friend, go go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We move around a lot, but once football.

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<v Speaker 5>Season ends, ESPN two, the show's ESPN BET Live. We're

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<v Speaker 5>six to seven pm Eastern, and we're pretty consistent throughout

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<v Speaker 5>the non football season, so we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>hoops going on.

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<v Speaker 4>But I appreciate you promoting it as always. Ken, Thank

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<v Speaker 4>you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You stay well, my friend. We need to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, absolutely, thank you, Ken, Thank you Cincinnati, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my guy, Joe Partenbau. Yeah. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be any of that's gonna come true,

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<v Speaker 1>but my guess is some of it will. We're twelve

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five already on this Thursday afternoon. Think of the

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<v Speaker 1>progress we have made as a society. Think of it

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<v Speaker 1>since midnight. We're almost thirteen hours into this thing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an accomplishment. Seven hundred wlw Okay, what away? News

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<v Speaker 1>Radio seven hundred WLW wel come on and to the pestivities.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to have you with us. It's the average American

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<v Speaker 1>and for the great American on this Thursday. However you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be through this great medium of terrestrial radio,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the transmitter standing like an edifice to crawl

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<v Speaker 1>this call to Pal Crosley right there on Mason, right

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<v Speaker 1>there on Route forty two or forty I believe we're

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<v Speaker 1>forty two and where Tyler's Bill wrote INTERSECTI if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken. If it's not, you can see it far away.

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<v Speaker 1>We welcome you on in. Perhaps you're listening on the

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<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio app and that is just dandy as well. The

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<v Speaker 1>sick society that is America, the American healthcare system is

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<v Speaker 1>at of whack. It's another one of the targets of

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration, how to get Americans healthier again. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it comes with a catchy phrase, Maha, make American healthy again.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, once you get by slogans and everything, what

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<v Speaker 1>does it mean? RFK Junior will be the next Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of Health and Human Services. It will happen. The last

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<v Speaker 1>roadblock was Senator Bill Cassidy from Louisiana, who's a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>He had problems with RFK Junior's position on vaccinations. But

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<v Speaker 1>after he got I guess convinced that RFK was not

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<v Speaker 1>the radical that he has been portrayed to be, he

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<v Speaker 1>voted to get him out of committee. And now it

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<v Speaker 1>will go on to the full Senate, and the full

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<v Speaker 1>Senate will confirm Kennedy as HHS Secretary. But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>change for the moment, just how sick we are as

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<v Speaker 1>a society. There is a former pharmaceutical consultant, food consultant,

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<v Speaker 1>and someonet of great repute inside the medical industry CALLI Means,

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<v Speaker 1>who pointed out in an interview that I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>a few months ago, and I wrote this down because

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<v Speaker 1>it's so important. We are four percent of the world's population.

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<v Speaker 1>You me, everybody else in the United States, we are

758
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<v Speaker 1>four percent of the world's population. We produce seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of pharmaceutical profits. And in the world, of all

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<v Speaker 1>the countries that populate this world, we are sixtieth sixtieth

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<v Speaker 1>in life expectancy. And why is that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people think it goes back to the late nineteen forties,

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of World War two, antibiotics became very

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<v Speaker 1>popular during the course of World War Two and then

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<v Speaker 1>for general consumption immediately after World War Two. They were

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<v Speaker 1>considered to be drugs of panacea, that they could cure everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we got into not preventing health problems, not

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<v Speaker 1>curing health problems, but treating health problems, and suddenly everything

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<v Speaker 1>became a chronic illness. Today, ninety five percent of all

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<v Speaker 1>medical spending is spent on chronic conditions, conditions that, if diagnosed,

771
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<v Speaker 1>you will have them for a lifetime. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>to treat chronic illness requires a lot of money, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just what big medicine wants, a lot of your money.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what RFK Junior in a way wants to,

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<v Speaker 1>if not fix, certainly get to a point where it

776
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<v Speaker 1>is not as dire a situation as it is in

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<v Speaker 1>this country. Everybody thinks, you pop a pill, hey, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. Well, it might keep you alive for another

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<v Speaker 1>six months, eight months, and then what happens, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to find some more pills to take, maybe different pills.

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<v Speaker 1>Well what does that do, Well, it crosses this problem

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<v Speaker 1>over here. So let me get some pills for that,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, You're a walking Elvis Presley.

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<v Speaker 1>You're taking every single pill known to mankind? How do

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<v Speaker 1>we get out of that? I turned for all health

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<v Speaker 1>matters to my good friend Todd Furnas. He has written

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<v Speaker 1>I think a definitive and actually a very short book

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<v Speaker 1>defining where we are as a country and where we

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<v Speaker 1>need to go. It's called the sixty Percent Solution, Rethinking Healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to get Todd on the program because

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<v Speaker 1>I think by this time next week RFK will have

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<v Speaker 1>been confirmed. So, Todd Furnas, how are you on this

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<v Speaker 1>glorious Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>I am doing, Danny Ken, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're here. Look, we'll see if RFK gets

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed by the Senate. He got through committee, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens when he gets to the full Senate vote.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think a lot of what he's been saying

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot about what you and I have been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. I mean, it's just out there. We're a

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<v Speaker 1>small fraction of the world's population. We produce all of

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<v Speaker 1>these pharmaceutical medicines, and we have untold profit for these

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<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical groups. And then when you drive right down to it,

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<v Speaker 1>the life expectancy of an American male or female is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty poor when put up against the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's going on.

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<v Speaker 6>Here, Well, a very big question. Let me start with

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<v Speaker 6>the intro around our kJ. I think he's going to

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<v Speaker 6>get confirmed based on the stuff that I'm seeing and hearing.

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<v Speaker 6>It was interesting because I know with certainty that a

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<v Speaker 6>torrent of mothers called in to Senator to Cassie's office too,

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<v Speaker 6>shall we say, encourage him to vote in favor of denomination,

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<v Speaker 6>which occurred.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's thing number one. Thing number two is, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we are.

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<v Speaker 6>Paying disproportionately for the research, development, marketing, and sales of

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<v Speaker 6>pharmaceutical drugs, which does then created a profit in the

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<v Speaker 6>pharmaceutical companies, which neither you nor I would regredge them

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<v Speaker 6>unless it means that the United States is paying more

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<v Speaker 6>than anybody else by sometimes a factor of a ten

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<v Speaker 6>or one hundred or even a thousand, and that just

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<v Speaker 6>didn't write. So that's there's a fairness question there. And

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know that we want to be using pharmaceuticals

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<v Speaker 6>as an example of foreign aid, which is the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that what we're doing by subsidizing drug production here in

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<v Speaker 6>the United States through the FDA, and then through the markets,

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<v Speaker 6>price the market prices here and then selling them cheaply

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<v Speaker 6>overseees that it's essentially a form of foreign aid.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a way to pay.

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<v Speaker 6>Way to think about it, I think that's a little

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<v Speaker 6>misguided because it means that we don't keep around the ball.

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<v Speaker 6>And then, lastly, with regard to life expectance, yes, we're

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<v Speaker 6>not doing a very good job. That goes back to

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<v Speaker 6>another thing that our FKJ has advocated, which is cleaning

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<v Speaker 6>up our food support and getting that in order. Because

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<v Speaker 6>it's not just a question of do we have medicines,

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<v Speaker 6>it's what causes what causes the need for medicine. It's

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<v Speaker 6>an illness for a chronic issue, and we have more chronic.

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<v Speaker 3>Diseases than we know what to do with.

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<v Speaker 6>So we've got to solve these problems systemically.

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<v Speaker 3>On that side of the equation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got to get more towards curing disease as

843
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<v Speaker 1>opposed to treating it as a chronic disease. The history

844
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>of this I goes back I guess goes back to

845
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>when antibiotics first came into the public health forum, and

846
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 1>that was when right after World War Two, and obviously

847
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>antibiotics can be used for a number of different things

848
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>to treat something, but not necessarily cure something. When did

849
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.679
<v Speaker 1>we get out of the cure business, or get out

850
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of the desire to cure business and into let's just

851
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:54.199
<v Speaker 1>keep this patient on an endless stream of pharmaceuticals for

852
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 1>the rest of his or her life life.

853
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.639
<v Speaker 6>And that's what that's been the case for the last

854
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 6>thirty or forty years.

855
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 3>But I want to kind of go back up a

856
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:05.159
<v Speaker 3>level to two things.

857
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 6>First of all, you and I have talked about the

858
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:11.280
<v Speaker 6>infinite elasticity of capitalism, which is one of the things

859
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:14.000
<v Speaker 6>that attracts us to this create nation of ours. Well,

860
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 6>the infinite elasticity of capitalism means that we're going to

861
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.480
<v Speaker 6>find more and more stuff to buy and sell, and

862
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 6>that includes drugs. And so drugs are now going to

863
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 6>smaller and smaller affected people in the marketplace and saying, hey,

864
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 6>you need to get our drugs or else.

865
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 3>This bad thing is going to happen.

866
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 6>So there's fear, uncertainty, and doubt advertised every single night

867
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 6>on every TV show available. Then you get to the

868
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 6>next issue, which is we really shouldn't be curing diseases

869
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:44.239
<v Speaker 6>when we have an opportunity to prevent them altogether, and

870
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:46.800
<v Speaker 6>we really are out of the prevention business, and we

871
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.199
<v Speaker 6>really need to get back in the prevention business and

872
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:54.039
<v Speaker 6>engage our nation's people into the right kinds of activities

873
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.920
<v Speaker 6>and foregoing the wrong kinds of activities so.

874
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 3>We can be healthier for longer.

875
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 6>If you go back to the fond memories of COVID

876
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:05.000
<v Speaker 6>link link nudge, nudge, then you'll recall that we had

877
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.519
<v Speaker 6>over seventy eight percent of the people who actually died

878
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 6>from COVID allegedly had co morbidities, and most of them

879
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 6>were seventy eight percent were obese. So let's talk about

880
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:20.800
<v Speaker 6>heart disease, let's talk about obesity, and let's attack those

881
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.079
<v Speaker 6>issues and see what we can need.

882
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 3>To prevent them altogether.

883
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.480
<v Speaker 6>Curing them is hard once they've gotten once they've manifested

884
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 6>in your system.

885
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that the whole thing about preventing illnesses

886
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.519
<v Speaker 1>goes back to culture. You mentioned lifestyle. I think it's

887
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>much difficult. This is just me, and anecdotally, maybe you

888
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:41.039
<v Speaker 1>feel differently. I think it's much more difficult to change

889
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a culture than it is to treat a problem that's

890
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>causing that culture. It seems to me, if you want

891
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to move a human being from point A to point

892
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>e B, that's a hell of a lot more difficult

893
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 1>than just giving human being something that makes point A

894
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.159
<v Speaker 1>a little more tolerable. I think it's just the way

895
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the human DNA is, don't you.

896
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:03.639
<v Speaker 6>Oh, absolutely, And the problem is you have to an

897
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 6>inertia issue that you have to deal with. But in

898
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 6>the healthcare world, we have with something else that's problematic,

899
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 6>which is getting the person on the other end, meaning

900
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:18.239
<v Speaker 6>the patient, to actually care enough to go undertake the

901
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:22.559
<v Speaker 6>corrective actions, whether it's taking a medicine or changing their diet,

902
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.480
<v Speaker 6>or going out and getting some exercise, whatever it is.

903
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:29.239
<v Speaker 6>Getting them to engage in their own healthcare is a really,

904
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.440
<v Speaker 6>really significant challenge. I have friends who are chief medical

905
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 6>officers for companies, and even if there's an economic benefit,

906
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 6>it's manifested in their insurance programs, their benefits, they still

907
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 6>are very, very recalctrant in terms of engaging the kinds

908
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 6>of behaviors that are necessary to.

909
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Change the culture of one in that instance.

910
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 6>So you can imagine if it's hard to change the

911
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 6>culture of one, meaning one individual patient, imagine how difficult

912
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:56.400
<v Speaker 6>it is it's going to be to change the culture

913
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:57.440
<v Speaker 6>of three hundred and thirty million.

914
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know and again you know, and

915
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this before. Really, when you get into

916
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the giant discussion about this, hey, you need to take

917
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:10.039
<v Speaker 1>our drug. As you mentioned, you watch I mean you

918
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 1>watch cable television news any night and it's all the

919
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>same thing. You don't take this drug, bad things are

920
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. To use your words, where are the

921
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>doctors and all this, Why shouldn't the doctor come in

922
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and say, wait a minute, don't believe everything you see

923
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>on TV.

924
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.280
<v Speaker 6>Well, doctors are complicit. I mean that's how they make

925
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.519
<v Speaker 6>their money. They get two ways of First of all,

926
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 6>as a patient when you go in to see the doctor,

927
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 6>then you get paid.

928
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.360
<v Speaker 7>For the visit, the doctor get paid for the visit.

929
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 6>And then secondly, oftentimes the case the doctor will get

930
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 6>paid for prescribing the meds.

931
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:44.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I go back to the COVID example.

932
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 6>I know of one specific insurance company where I saw

933
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 6>the document myself where they were saying, if you the

934
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:56.440
<v Speaker 6>primary care position, get seventy five percent of your panel,

935
00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:00.519
<v Speaker 6>meaning the patients you serve vaccinated, you will give you

936
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 6>a one hundred and seventy five dollars per patient bonus.

937
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.719
<v Speaker 1>That's privory. Yeah, the first degree.

938
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:11.679
<v Speaker 6>Well then it gets worse because the average.

939
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Panel size for a primary care potion is three thousand patients.

940
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, holy cow.

941
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we do the math.

942
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 6>Three thousand times one hundred and twenty five is more

943
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:20.559
<v Speaker 6>than just mere lunch money.

944
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it isn't it's not lunch money. It's criminal. But again,

945
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:29.320
<v Speaker 1>this is the never ending cycle of healthcare in this country.

946
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Todd Furness, our guests, and we're talking about this report

947
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:36.039
<v Speaker 1>that just backs up what RFK Junior has been saying

948
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 1>all along that we're just as a society, we're spending

949
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>all this money on healthcare and we're just basically one

950
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>of the sickest societies in the world. Look, I have

951
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.039
<v Speaker 1>to ask you this because Donald Trump in office, I mean,

952
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:51.320
<v Speaker 1>my goodness, it's it's going on three weeks and his

953
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's just moving at break neck speed. And

954
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 1>these tariffs that he's been threatening against Mexico and against

955
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Canada that both both have backed off of, He's got

956
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.159
<v Speaker 1>another one he's thrown on China. Now we'll see. He

957
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>wants to impose a ten percent tariff on China imports.

958
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Chinese imports. The fact of the matter is we get

959
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of our pharmaceuticals from China. The fact of

960
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the matter is APIs those active pharmaceutical ingredients. In the

961
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 1>last ten years, it's just gone up, I mean increasingly

962
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.360
<v Speaker 1>for what we rely on China for. So I'm just

963
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.480
<v Speaker 1>wondering if indeed he goes ahead and imposes the tariff

964
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and China comes back and imposes the terrif on us,

965
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:33.320
<v Speaker 1>it would lead one to think that the price of

966
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:36.079
<v Speaker 1>drugs are going to go up. Do you anticipate the

967
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 1>price of drugs going up?

968
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:39.079
<v Speaker 3>Ken Brew?

969
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:40.719
<v Speaker 6>This is why I love talking to you, because you're

970
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.840
<v Speaker 6>the first guy that's talked about this, and I've it's

971
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.079
<v Speaker 6>been burning a hole in my head since I heard

972
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:45.519
<v Speaker 6>him talking.

973
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Per first mentioned it, and you're you're generally.

974
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 6>The first radio host for journalists that I've heard speak

975
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:55.000
<v Speaker 6>about this issue. And it's critical because here's the other thing,

976
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.440
<v Speaker 6>the meagage that we don't that we don't get from China,

977
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.320
<v Speaker 6>and guess where we get them? Yeah, and guess who

978
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 6>supplies the APIs to India China. So it's worse than

979
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.519
<v Speaker 6>most people can even gain to believe, so we do

980
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 6>have a problem. They're there, and I worry that if

981
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 6>if we really got got sideways with China, as we

982
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:21.360
<v Speaker 6>saw it again with some of the COVID issues, then

983
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.440
<v Speaker 6>they might cut off our supply chain for those APIs

984
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:26.280
<v Speaker 6>and then we'd have a real world hurt coming on.

985
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I know. One of the you know again,

986
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 1>you know the thing about the president is he likes

987
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to make deals and he makes threats. The other side

988
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:36.320
<v Speaker 1>makes threats, and all of a sudden you come to

989
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:38.360
<v Speaker 1>a solution, and it might be one of the reasons

990
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.840
<v Speaker 1>why he's I mean, all these places he's interested in

991
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:43.519
<v Speaker 1>buying Canada, Greenland and places like that that are in

992
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Greenland's case, where you're rich in minerals. We'll see exactly

993
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 1>whether or not that comes to pass. But I'm just

994
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned about that because Number one, if these if

995
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:54.519
<v Speaker 1>these ingredients are coming from China, and we know that

996
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:58.639
<v Speaker 1>the major export of fentanyl comes from China. I'm just wondering,

997
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:02.320
<v Speaker 1>if the Chinese government really wanted to screw us, they

998
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>could do a hell of a job just by screwing

999
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 1>what these ingredients they send to us, couldn't.

1000
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 6>They absolutely, and I think that's why this is characterized

1001
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 6>in many venues as a national security issue, because we

1002
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:16.639
<v Speaker 6>need to think about it differently. We need to have

1003
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 6>markets where you have choice and you can go from

1004
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 6>point A to point B or supplier ATA supplier B

1005
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:27.760
<v Speaker 6>without fear that if you turn one off that the

1006
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 6>entire supply will be turned off.

1007
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:33.320
<v Speaker 3>And that's what we have right now in my business.

1008
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 6>We call this in the private equity business, we call

1009
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:40.039
<v Speaker 6>this a concentration risk. We have a concentration of supply

1010
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:44.079
<v Speaker 6>coming out of China and pharmaceuticals right now, and so

1011
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 6>we got to be worried about that, and we have

1012
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 6>a you know, the concentration is worse because it's not

1013
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:51.320
<v Speaker 6>only China but also to India. So the challenge is

1014
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:54.280
<v Speaker 6>how do we change that concentration risk and have that

1015
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:58.519
<v Speaker 6>more distributed so that we can manage that better. And

1016
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.639
<v Speaker 6>that's good for everybody because it keeps prices down, that

1017
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.599
<v Speaker 6>keeps supplies up, and it increased competition in the marketplace,

1018
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 6>all the good stuff that we come to know and

1019
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.239
<v Speaker 6>love here in the United States. But if we don't

1020
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:09.920
<v Speaker 6>go focus on that, then we're going to have really

1021
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:11.000
<v Speaker 6>really significant issues.

1022
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Look at the turf you and I just covered in

1023
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the last eleven minutes. I mean, we have a country

1024
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 1>that's dependent on pharmaceuticals because we have a country that

1025
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.360
<v Speaker 1>has a medical system that wants to get you in

1026
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the chronic illness business as opposed to the cure business.

1027
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:28.639
<v Speaker 1>We don't have anybody that's really doing preventive medicine in

1028
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 1>this country and now we're dependent on China and India

1029
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:35.800
<v Speaker 1>for us to stay in the chronic illness business. To me,

1030
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's insanity to the to the first degree.

1031
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.400
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, Todd, every one of these guys

1032
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:43.559
<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d C. I've said this before, I'll see

1033
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:46.679
<v Speaker 1>it again. Google everybody you've elected to the Senate and

1034
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to the House and see who's taken what kind of

1035
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>money from big farm, and then you'll have an idea

1036
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.079
<v Speaker 1>of why it hasn't been solved here and why we've

1037
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:56.880
<v Speaker 1>been so dependent on all of this for the last

1038
00:52:56.920 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 1>forty to fifty years. I'm all, my sorry about that.

1039
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:04.159
<v Speaker 1>You're the guest I shouldn't be preaching, and you need

1040
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 1>to write another book for crying out loud. The sixty

1041
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:09.880
<v Speaker 1>percent solution rethinking healthcare is right now available on Amazon,

1042
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:12.679
<v Speaker 1>where all fine books are sold. Our guest, Todd front

1043
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:14.840
<v Speaker 1>is Todd. You stay well and you and I visit

1044
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>down the road.

1045
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Thanks, thanks so much for your time today. I appreciate it.

1046
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You bet, you bet. Think about that again. Four percent.

1047
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:25.639
<v Speaker 1>We are four percent of the world's population. We produce

1048
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent of pharmaceutical profits, and we are sixtieth

1049
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:38.880
<v Speaker 1>sixtieth out of every nation in life expectancy because ninety

1050
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:43.639
<v Speaker 1>five percent of medical spending today is on chronic conditions

1051
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:51.960
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to try and prevent these conditions. And that's why, again,

1052
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:56.320
<v Speaker 1>just going about business lays a fair Yeah, you just

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<v Speaker 1>keep going out there to Washington. You kept just doing

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. Here's some more money. Yeah, you guys

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00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:05.000
<v Speaker 1>are doing a great job. That's the problem. And if

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<v Speaker 1>that gets anywhere near fixed between now and twenty twenty eight,

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00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.079
<v Speaker 1>me and you and everybody else will be a hell

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00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:17.079
<v Speaker 1>of a lot better. Why that can't get through of

1059
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:21.679
<v Speaker 1>the ideologues in this country, and in particular in Washington,

1060
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Why that isn't evident? If you can convince me, have

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<v Speaker 1>at it. One twenty six News Radio seven hundred w WELW.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a great honor.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, no matter who the president is,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm excited because, uh, it's the biggest game

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<v Speaker 2>of my life, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And having the president there, I know, it's the best

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<v Speaker 1>country in the world, so I would be very cool.

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<v Speaker 5>He Hello, Wyet, I'm broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>Say do you believe that there's some people that are

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<v Speaker 1>upset that Travis Kelsey is excited about the president coming

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<v Speaker 1>to the super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 9>Nothing surprises me anymore? Ken Brew about what's going on?

1073
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 9>Guy used to have on my show a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Freeman, who now writes for USA Today, wrote a

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00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:16.039
<v Speaker 1>column a couple of days ago saying that that basically

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was shatatizing all over the Super Bowl. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at this thing thinking, first of all, after

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<v Speaker 1>they show him once or twice, nobody's gonna give a

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<v Speaker 1>rats rear end about him. They're gonna be watching the game.

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<v Speaker 9>He's gonna he's gonna be sitting with the what the

1081
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.679
<v Speaker 9>Saints owner invited him? So, I mean, you know, president

1082
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<v Speaker 9>goes to the super Bowl, he goes to the World Series.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, you know, I mean, what what's you know?

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<v Speaker 9>It's it's because it's him, That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. And you know there's so much of this

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<v Speaker 1>Trump drain syndrome that's going on out there by the

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00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Democrats and they populate, make no mistake about it. They

1088
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.960
<v Speaker 1>might have found their new haven in this blue Sky thing,

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00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>but they're still lurking around there on X ready to

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<v Speaker 1>pounce on anybody that says anything that's outside of their narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, if I'm trying, if I'm Travis Kelsey,

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00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I tell him to do is stick

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<v Speaker 1>it somewhere where proctologists can't even find it, saying, yeah,

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00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.840
<v Speaker 1>he probably would, you know, he probably would, yeah, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>m you know, everybody's all up and you know this

1096
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:18.079
<v Speaker 1>whole country is divided right now, Sick. And then you

1097
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<v Speaker 1>got Taylor Swift. You know, I don't particularly care for

1098
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:22.760
<v Speaker 1>her music, but if she wants to date the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>if she's in love with the guy, who the hell cares?

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<v Speaker 1>If she goes to a game and watch him play, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree? Thank you, Sick. I need I need just

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<v Speaker 1>some some affirmation here, that's all. Some loves what ken.

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<v Speaker 9>Brew the stood reporters of Proud Service, every local Tamestar

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<v Speaker 9>Heating and air Conditioning dealers, tamestar quality you could feel

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<v Speaker 9>in northern Kentucky called Tom Rickon Heating and air Conditioning

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<v Speaker 9>eight five nine two six ' one eighty two sixty

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<v Speaker 9>nine s. But and we want to thank Ron's Roost

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<v Speaker 9>Restaurant and Bar, the world's greatest fried chicken, Will ken Brew.

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<v Speaker 8>It's clucking good, Ron Junior, Ron Larkin.

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<v Speaker 9>Junior, the bringing the food sixty five years on the

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<v Speaker 9>good old West Side, the buffet on Friday and Saturday,

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<v Speaker 9>thirty eight to fifty three Race Road.

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<v Speaker 1>I ate so much of that today. I got heaps

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00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:12.079
<v Speaker 1>coming out of my mouth when I burp.

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<v Speaker 9>Bengals up there, brought to you by good Spirits, Winding

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00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:18.679
<v Speaker 9>Tobacco and Party Town Bengals. Joe Burrow today making the

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<v Speaker 9>rounds of the Super Bowl talking contracts ken Brew about

1118
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<v Speaker 9>Chase Higgins and mister Hendrickson Well Bengals.

1119
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Hey, he's the Bengals general manager.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh so far's He's been on more TV today that

1121
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<v Speaker 9>I think Trump has been in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think happens if they don't sign TVs? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that going to do? With Joe Burrow?

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<v Speaker 8>Not happy?

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<v Speaker 1>See? And that's the problem here You've got Mike Brown,

1126
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<v Speaker 1>He's sitting in the corner office up there, and I

1127
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:46.920
<v Speaker 1>know Mike. I like Mike. But let's just say Mike

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know where the money goes. Mike would be

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<v Speaker 1>a good doze guy. He would be a great doze

1130
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<v Speaker 1>guy in Washington, DC. And you know, and then then

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00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you got you know, the fan base, and all they

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<v Speaker 1>want to do is see this team win a championship.

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<v Speaker 1>You half this town is fearing that they're going to

1134
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<v Speaker 1>be dead by the time they win a super Bowl,

1135
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and the other half are figuring, well, they're never going

1136
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<v Speaker 1>to win a super Bowl, so that's what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile, you got to pay other players, and so

1138
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:14.039
<v Speaker 1>you got your quarterback out there campaign and it has

1139
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<v Speaker 1>to make let's just say, for some uncomfortable time inside

1140
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:20.079
<v Speaker 1>what is it pay corps or pay now?

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's still pay corps. Totally switch it. Who

1142
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:26.960
<v Speaker 9>knows inside stadium, but they have to, you know, I mean,

1143
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<v Speaker 9>I mean, if it's not going to be good, if

1144
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<v Speaker 9>Joe Burrow's not happy.

1145
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Well if he's not, he's like Mama, you're not happy.

1146
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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's happy.

1147
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<v Speaker 9>Pro Football Hall of Fame class at twenty twenty five

1148
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:40.960
<v Speaker 9>is going to be announced tonight in the NFL Honors

1149
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<v Speaker 9>Show in New Orleans. Big Willie Anderson and Louke Keikley

1150
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:45.880
<v Speaker 9>are on that finals list.

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<v Speaker 1>Kinkley's getting in, Oh Willie, I hope there's a couple

1152
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of there's one or two other linemen there that it

1153
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>makes me a little skittish. Yep, but Willy ought to

1154
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<v Speaker 1>be in there.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think Kinkley gets in. Super Bowl Up. They

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<v Speaker 9>brought to you by Stone Statements. Make your dream kitchen

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<v Speaker 9>Bowl fifty nine. Of course, Sunday Chiefs and Eagles coverage

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<v Speaker 9>begins Sunday at five. Right here, run seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness.

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<v Speaker 9>College football Buckeye's coach Ryan Day, who was what about

1162
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:19.280
<v Speaker 9>two months ago, was wanting to get They were going.

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<v Speaker 8>To run him out of town.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't get in Columbus, he couldn't get a job

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<v Speaker 1>at Central Michigan University.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, He gets a He gets a new seven

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<v Speaker 9>year contract at Ohio State, now valued a twelve and

1168
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:34.079
<v Speaker 9>a half million per year back, second highest paid college

1169
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<v Speaker 9>coach behind George's Kirby Smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay. The payout is probably like thirty five dollars. I

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00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:44.039
<v Speaker 1>gotta believe there's a way that they're gonna nuke that

1172
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<v Speaker 1>thing at some point. If let's just say he doesn't

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00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:48.639
<v Speaker 1>start missig, he doesn't start beating Michigan.

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<v Speaker 8>That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's see Red's pitchers and catchers report the spring training

1176
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<v Speaker 9>camp on Monday, ken Brew, don't be late. I'll be

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<v Speaker 9>there for Tito, Tito Francona. Let's see. Former Reds outfielder

1178
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<v Speaker 9>Tommy fam has a one year deal with the Pittsburgh.

1179
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Pirates, bringing his fantasy baseball team with him too, for

1180
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a few fights in the outfield.

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<v Speaker 8>I think, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was.

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<v Speaker 9>And then this is weird about this is what I

1184
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.679
<v Speaker 9>don't understand about soccer. FC Cincinnati has loaned Alvarro Barial

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01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:24.800
<v Speaker 9>to a Brazilian club today through December of this year,

1186
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:28.920
<v Speaker 9>but they also signed him to an extension through the

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01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.000
<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty sixth season in the MLS.

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<v Speaker 1>See now, this is interesting because that just happened inside

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart today, you know, in iHeart and Kenwood, did you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about this?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently, and I don't have all the details, but

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<v Speaker 1>apparently Eddie Fingers has been loaned out to an FM

1194
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:49.840
<v Speaker 1>station in Bowling Green, Kentucky for the next year, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he'll come back and was that right? Wow? I

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01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:55.920
<v Speaker 1>heard that too. Yeah, okay, well and then you got

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<v Speaker 1>but Eddie's probably just fell off his couch. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>buryal That's what that happens all the time in soccer.

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<v Speaker 1>They want a guy out and then they'll have done

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<v Speaker 1>that before.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, they've done that before it And I guess uh,

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<v Speaker 9>I guess Acosta has got a beef with the management

1203
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<v Speaker 9>of FC Cincinnati, so he hasn't shown up yet, but

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<v Speaker 9>he looks like he's headed back to Argentina to play.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what today is, seg uh Thursday. It's Rick

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley's birthday.

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<v Speaker 6>Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Ashley's birthday.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, ken Brew rick Roll, guys celebrate today. Is he

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<v Speaker 8>a one hit wonder?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, he had, he had, He had several hits,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, he had this Are you familiar with this song?

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<v Speaker 10>So?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, hit it and some.

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<v Speaker 9>Old Rick Ashley is today. Uh, it's just take a while.

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<v Speaker 9>Sixty five you're close, No, you're close. Okay, he'll be

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<v Speaker 9>sixty next year.

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<v Speaker 8>How about that?

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01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 1>He is fifty nine years old a day.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, you know the whole story behind Rick Rolling. Right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go ahead, you're mister music. No.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 1>On the internet, and this was a big thing about

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01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:16.239
<v Speaker 1>three or four years ago, maybe longer than that. When

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<v Speaker 1>you would go on YouTube and you would download a video,

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01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.079
<v Speaker 1>you said, oh, here's it's video, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>like ten seconds into it, they'd bring up Rick Ashley

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01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:27.920
<v Speaker 1>dancing to Never Gonna Give You Up? Yeah, true thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I had Rick Ashley on my show said maybe like

1232
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<v Speaker 1>six years ago, yeah, and I asked about the Rickrolling thing,

1233
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and he says, you know what. I was bothered by

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01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.639
<v Speaker 1>it at first, but then his daughter told him, hey, dad,

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01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 1>no big thing. This is what he said.

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<v Speaker 11>Listen, Amelia her name is, and she basically said, you

1237
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:47.199
<v Speaker 11>do realize it's got nothing to do with you. And

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<v Speaker 11>the way she said it, it was just like the

1239
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:53.119
<v Speaker 11>penny dropped and it just made me think, she's absolutely right,

1240
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:55.199
<v Speaker 11>it's got nothing to do It could have been anybody's

1241
01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:58.199
<v Speaker 11>video from the ages. Whoever started it just wanted what

1242
01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:00.760
<v Speaker 11>they perceived as a chief, which I.

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01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Have to agree with a little bit looking back.

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01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, I just it was a fun thing and

1245
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:06.360
<v Speaker 2>it could have.

1246
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Been anybody been going on said since two thousand and seven,

1247
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:14.199
<v Speaker 1>this rick rolling thing? Hey, what you know? Hey, get

1248
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:16.440
<v Speaker 1>it get it on, That's what I say, Get it on.

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01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 1>That's right on, get it on, right, Well, it is

1250
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:20.039
<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 9>Seg that's about it, ken Brew, I got a question

1252
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:25.480
<v Speaker 9>for I'm glad you asked. The Bearcats won last night,

1253
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:26.159
<v Speaker 9>Thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my god, what is the comic hootech coming by

1255
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:30.119
<v Speaker 1>tonight too? Should we look for that?

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01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:33.159
<v Speaker 9>Wes Miller Show tonight at eight oh five live for

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01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:35.960
<v Speaker 9>the Rige of Montgomery in on More Tonight they play

1258
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:41.320
<v Speaker 9>BYU Saturday. NKU upset Cleveland State, the Horizon League leader

1259
01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:44.719
<v Speaker 9>last night, so it looks like, you know, we'll see

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<v Speaker 9>what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a passion question for you. If that's can

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you go ahead? So I've never been to

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<v Speaker 1>a Columbus Blue Jackets game. Yes, and I'm going Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time game on Saturday night. Yes. And

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter for Christmas, knowing that I was the original

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<v Speaker 1>PA announcer for the Cincinnati Stingers all those years ago

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy one, she got me a custom made jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, I mean this is like one of those

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01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:15.719
<v Speaker 1>game jerseys they wear, and they had this, my name

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01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 1>plate is on the back. And then she, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>she got me the number seven of as you well know,

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<v Speaker 1>the original Stinger, Brian Soupy Campbell. Yes, so I have

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<v Speaker 1>the I got this jersey and I'm thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I may wear that to the Blue Jackets

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<v Speaker 1>game on Saturday night. I think they're playing the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Rangers. Should I Should I wear that? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think I might have problems inside that arena with that? Well?

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<v Speaker 9>I think you ought to wear it ken Brew and

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<v Speaker 9>and I guess once people figure out, you'll get mobbed.

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<v Speaker 9>Well it has Brew on the back of it. Well,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm just saying. I mean, you know I'm big in Columbus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>so I mean think you might be sitting next to

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<v Speaker 9>Ryan Day or something. Well it might be, but Brian geesenslaw.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think I'll be attacked because it's Boston

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01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Bruin's colors? You know, it's the old All the Stingers

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01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:03.880
<v Speaker 1>did was take the Boston Bruins logo off the front

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<v Speaker 1>of it, slap their own on it. It's a great jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to be physically accosted enough. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like.

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<v Speaker 8>Red, white and blue. It's it's black and yellow.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it's black and yellow with the Stingers logo

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<v Speaker 1>on the front of it.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh well, I don't you know that's a I mean

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<v Speaker 9>I would think that they wouldn't. I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 9>would mess with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think so.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm a little skittish about all this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little skittish. I'm going to Columbus to a

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Jackets game for the first time. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get in there and then people are like like

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01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:36.960
<v Speaker 1>throwing things at me, you know, like shoes and whatnot, skates,

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01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:40.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe a puck. I don't want that. Okay, But you

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm all right.

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<v Speaker 9>I think you're okay, ken Brew all right, sick, all right,

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01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:45.280
<v Speaker 9>I think you're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they worry.

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<v Speaker 9>I think they'll worry about you know, fans being in

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<v Speaker 9>Ranger colors. That's who they're playing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, see, the Rangers have the same colors as the

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Jackets, you know, they're they're red one.

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<v Speaker 8>I think you'll be I think you'll be okay. And

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01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:57.880
<v Speaker 8>Stingers where.

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<v Speaker 1>So I may just I may they may not care

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<v Speaker 1>about me because there'll probably be some Rangers fans there, right,

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01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I would think so, yes, But then again, the Stingers

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<v Speaker 1>colors are like the Bruins colors, and the Rangers' biggest

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<v Speaker 1>rival is the Bruins. You might have some Durans New

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01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:13.960
<v Speaker 1>York fans, and imagine that drains the New York being using.

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<v Speaker 9>Just wear it and if they start giving you, you

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01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.440
<v Speaker 9>know what, put your coat on, well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's true. I could just tuck it in and

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01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:22.960
<v Speaker 1>put my uh and zip up my jacket.

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<v Speaker 8>There you go, all right, have fun. I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 8>Fun'll be part of the fifth line on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the fifth line?

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<v Speaker 8>That's the that's the crowd fifth line?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh, I should know? What else do I need

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01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to know before I go watch them play?

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<v Speaker 9>Big Leo sings the uh national anthem? Big Leo, big Leo.

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<v Speaker 9>Who's the star of that team? I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 9>Zach Rwinsky A couple, yeah, and a couple other couple

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01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:51.480
<v Speaker 9>and a couple other players are pretty good now. So

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01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:53.320
<v Speaker 9>they got a good They finally got a good coach

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01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:56.400
<v Speaker 9>and there a good general manager and they're turning things around.

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<v Speaker 8>Last time I checked.

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<v Speaker 9>There they're the there at the top of the last

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<v Speaker 9>team to get into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so wild card Rick Nash doesn't play for them anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>No, he's so he's in the front office off in Columbus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>all stuff by and say hi, okay, there you go, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, sego, we need to get out of the Stooge

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<v Speaker 1>Report right now because I have I've got a guy

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Trump wanting to buy the Gaza Strip. We

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01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:23.599
<v Speaker 1>got to talk about Trump buying the Gaza Strip and

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01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:25.760
<v Speaker 1>wait for that place to look like Las Vegas. I'm

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01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:29.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna call it the Kaza Vegas. Maggaza Vegas is coming

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01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to Gaga Vegas, and I got a Trump tire up there.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're gonna have pools. They're gonna have, they're gonna

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01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:35.800
<v Speaker 1>have I don't know, Yasir Arafat on the beach, sun

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01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 1>tanning himself and asking answering any question you might have.

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<v Speaker 9>So ken Brew and honor of a nice day here

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01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.760
<v Speaker 9>in the tri State, but snow elsewhere, we leave you

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<v Speaker 9>with the immortal words of the Stewed Report.

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<v Speaker 8>Save the platitudes, Bozo. There's work to be done here

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01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:53.920
<v Speaker 8>in Gulf or is becketing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, oh you could?

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I say that maybe the Wizard of ken

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<v Speaker 9>What'll come up with you Saturday you got an extra ticket?

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01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Or he might be able to work the crowd at

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<v Speaker 1>the Maga Gaza Strip.

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<v Speaker 9>That's right, I'll take residence in Gaza for a for

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01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:12.760
<v Speaker 9>a year. There you go do the show, that's right?

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<v Speaker 9>Is it a ken Wood?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they'd love you over there, Amen, Seg, I gotta

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01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:26.560
<v Speaker 1>go sa on seven hundred WYLW seven hundred WYLW one

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01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:29.039
<v Speaker 1>fight the average American in for the great American. Seg.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking with Seg about the The NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Awards are tonight. It's at nine and Joe Burrow is

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<v Speaker 1>making the rounds along Radio Road today in New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't expect to be MVP or Offensive Player

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year simply because

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01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:51.319
<v Speaker 1>he said, in his words, basically, your team has to

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01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:55.399
<v Speaker 1>win to get that kind of honor. In fact, let

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01:08:55.399 --> 01:09:00.359
<v Speaker 1>me give you the exact quote. He said, usually you

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01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.199
<v Speaker 1>have to have a lot of team's success to be

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01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 1>considered for some of those awards. That was with an

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01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:10.439
<v Speaker 1>interview with Adam Shine is he with CBS Sports. I

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01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:14.359
<v Speaker 1>think he is the CBS Sports Radio Network. Anyway, That's

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01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:16.239
<v Speaker 1>what he had to say. I think he's off on that.

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01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to be a comeback player of

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01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.399
<v Speaker 1>the Year, might be the offensive Player of the Year,

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01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:22.920
<v Speaker 1>although I think that probably would be Jamar Chase in

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01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:26.560
<v Speaker 1>front of him. But the Hall of Fame voting is

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01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:31.000
<v Speaker 1>also one of great interest, and we're looking for Willie

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01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:34.439
<v Speaker 1>Anderson to get in. He would have to be the

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01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:38.159
<v Speaker 1>top offensive lineman under consideration. I know Marshall Yanda is

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01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.239
<v Speaker 1>on that list as well, but there's not another lineman

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01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.880
<v Speaker 1>really that is more deserving from a statistical standpoint than

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01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Willy Anderson. Anyway, the odds on him making the Hall

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01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of Fame, apparently tonight, apparently is twenty five percent highest

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01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:56.319
<v Speaker 1>among all offensive linemen. Antonio Gates is a lock. Luke

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01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Kinkley' is a lock. The Eli Manning is a lock.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how it old pans out. That's at nine

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock tonight. Meanwhile, in Washington, former UC coach Tommy Tubberville

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01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:12.600
<v Speaker 1>has introduced a bill. Yes, he introduced it on Wednesday. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>He along with Republican Senator Tim Shee, he introduced the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act to stop the double tax

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<v Speaker 1>on Social Security benefits. Tubleville said seniors worked the majority

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01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:32.039
<v Speaker 1>of their adult lives so they can spend their retirement comfortably.

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01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 1>So no more double tax. From a man who once

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01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:43.840
<v Speaker 1>famously said at Knippert Stadium.

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01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:47.079
<v Speaker 5>I ll get a job, get it job.

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01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:50.359
<v Speaker 1>So if you had a job and you paid into

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01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Social Security, why go to hell? Which would be double

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01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:57.920
<v Speaker 1>tax on it. We'll see how far it gets. It's

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<v Speaker 1>two o'clock. It's time for the news News seven hundred

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01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:08.079
<v Speaker 1>WLW all right back on the big one two eight

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<v Speaker 1>the average American and for the great American on this Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to have you with us. I don't say that capriciously,

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01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:16.239
<v Speaker 1>because if you were not with us right now, I

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01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:19.079
<v Speaker 1>would I would merely be one man sitting in a

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01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:23.479
<v Speaker 1>room by himself, babbling incoherently. And why would I have

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01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to leave home to do that? So I again, you know,

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01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:32.079
<v Speaker 1>I listened to our newscasts and this whole thing about

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01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:36.399
<v Speaker 1>government buyouts for people. You know, Washington isn't a tissy

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01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 1>on this right now. Because Donald Trump wants to cut

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01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the fat out of the federal government, and so he's

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01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:48.000
<v Speaker 1>offered these buyouts with a deadline of tonight for employees

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01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:51.359
<v Speaker 1>to take it, and so far only I think it's

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01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:56.239
<v Speaker 1>two percent, only two percent of the civilian federal workforce

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01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:58.760
<v Speaker 1>has taken them up on the offer. Well, now here

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01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:02.880
<v Speaker 1>come the unions, the American Federation of Government Employees, the

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01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:06.680
<v Speaker 1>National Association of Government Employees, and the American Federation of State,

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01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:12.039
<v Speaker 1>County and Municipal Employees, representing about eight hundred thousand there

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01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Now they have now gone out looking for a judge

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01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:17.439
<v Speaker 1>that would take this on. So they went judge shopping basically,

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<v Speaker 1>and they landed in, of all places, stand by for It, Massachusetts,

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01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:28.199
<v Speaker 1>and that's where they found the Honorable George A. O'Toole, Junior,

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01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:33.039
<v Speaker 1>who was appointed to that particular bench by stand by

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01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:39.359
<v Speaker 1>for It Bill Clinton. So that's what goes on in

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01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:42.680
<v Speaker 1>these cases. We'll see there's apparently now a Monday deadline

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01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and there will be arguments on both sides, the government,

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01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the lawyers representing the federal employees. Number one, if you're

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01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:53.439
<v Speaker 1>a federal employee, why would you take a buyout right now?

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01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Because it's a cake job. You work for the federal government.

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01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:00.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a cake job. There's so many protect for you, Okay,

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01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:02.720
<v Speaker 1>So Trump's going to cut down the fat, that's what

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01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:05.039
<v Speaker 1>he wants to do, and maybe there is some fact

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01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:08.479
<v Speaker 1>to be cut. But if you're a valued employee, if

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01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you're someone who does a meaningful task, why would you worry.

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01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Apparently only two percent of the population of the workforce

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01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:18.000
<v Speaker 1>in the federal government is worried about it, So that's

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01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:23.920
<v Speaker 1>number one. Number two. If everybody is so convinced that

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01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Washington d c Is so efficient with the way it runs,

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01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:36.680
<v Speaker 1>why then would there be all of this panic on

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01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the side of the left. It doesn't make any sense.

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01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Somebody is there's money somewhere being exchanged on this, and

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01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:47.439
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what Trump down deep is trying to

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01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:50.079
<v Speaker 1>figure out where it's coming from and where it's going.

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01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:53.279
<v Speaker 1>But if you're a government employee and you've been on

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01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:56.279
<v Speaker 1>the job for any length of time, and you're a

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01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:59.159
<v Speaker 1>valued employee and what you do is necessary to run

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01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:02.119
<v Speaker 1>this country, then and I don't think you have anything

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01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:04.880
<v Speaker 1>to worry about. But if you're not well, then you

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01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:09.720
<v Speaker 1>have something to worry about. And quite frankly, if you're

1457
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:12.359
<v Speaker 1>not you should be asking yourself the same question, why

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01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:17.279
<v Speaker 1>am I here? If I'm not someone the government absolutely needs.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, this thing is now delayed until Monday. My

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<v Speaker 1>guess is there will be arguments on both sides and

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01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:26.039
<v Speaker 1>it'll get kicked up to a higher court. But we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see where it goes. Could even go to the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court might be a possibility. But there just seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be a whole lot of fear in Washington over Donald Trump,

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01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:42.319
<v Speaker 1>and the left doesn't know how to react. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you see those asidine scenes of the left and

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01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Schumer and Maxine Water is yelling and screaming, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win, win, win, We're not gonna know the dose

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. It's like, if you have nothing to

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01:14:55.880 --> 01:14:58.439
<v Speaker 1>be worried about, why are behaving that way? What are

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01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:04.359
<v Speaker 1>you hiding? So we'll see Trump is a sli as

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01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a fox. He's dropping four or five political bombshells a day,

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01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:12.119
<v Speaker 1>and the left doesn't know where to go to put

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01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:16.760
<v Speaker 1>out these alleged fires like this one. He just casually

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01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:23.359
<v Speaker 1>droped with Benjamin Nett, yahoo Prime Minister of Israel in

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01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the White House two days ago, that you know, we're

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01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:30.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna buy Gaza, We're gonna buy the Gaza strip and

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01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:33.119
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna try. It's gonna be big. It's gonna be huge,

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01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden people are just are going crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean he's gonna buy Gaza? Do we

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01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:41.920
<v Speaker 1>want our tax dollars bought over there? Do you want

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01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to own Gaza? I don't want any of my tax

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01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.760
<v Speaker 1>dollars going to Gaza or to buy Gaza place is

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01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a mess. It's going to take trillions of dollars to

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01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:53.439
<v Speaker 1>rebuild that. But nevertheless, that's what he wants to do.

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01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:56.800
<v Speaker 1>And maybe slies a fox. There's a deal in the

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01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:59.720
<v Speaker 1>deal where somebody else comes in and does that work

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<v Speaker 1>for us? I don't know somebody that might have standing

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<v Speaker 1>by to join us live. Doctor Ossif Romerowski is the

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<v Speaker 1>executive director of an organization called the Scholars for Peace

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<v Speaker 1>in the Middle East SPME. He is a Middle East historian,

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01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:19.920
<v Speaker 1>holds a PhD in Middle East in Mediterranean Studies from

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01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 1>King's College that would be in the UK, and has

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<v Speaker 1>published a number of things widely various aspects of the

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01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Arab Israeli conflict and American's foreign policy in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>And his is a voice I think we need to

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01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.640
<v Speaker 1>hear on this because I'm not quite convinced just by

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01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:39.279
<v Speaker 1>seeing some of the things that he's written that he

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01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:42.439
<v Speaker 1>thinks this is a good idea. Nevertheless, let's find out

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Here he is, doctor Ossif Romerowski. Doctor, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you on this glorious Thursday.

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<v Speaker 7>Wonderful? Thank you for having me.

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01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're here because I think when Donald Trump,

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01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:55.159
<v Speaker 1>President of the United States, said a couple of days

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01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:58.600
<v Speaker 1>ago that the US would take over Gaza, remove Debried tunnels,

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01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:01.079
<v Speaker 1>take out all the explosion, the device that we're there,

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01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and basically turn it into it seemed like in his

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01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.720
<v Speaker 1>mind some sort of resort area. Uh. Not only was

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01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I caught guard by that, but I was looking at

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01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the expression on the face of Benjamin Netanyahu. Would he

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01:17:13.279 --> 01:17:15.920
<v Speaker 1>looks surprised too? Were you surprised when the President said that?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I mean, I think it's very very Trump, you know,

1513
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:22.800
<v Speaker 10>and fits his personality.

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01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:24.079
<v Speaker 7>I think that Trump, in.

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01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:28.760
<v Speaker 10>His own mind would like to bring a cessation, you know,

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01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:30.640
<v Speaker 10>an end to it, to violence, and bring the end

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01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:32.760
<v Speaker 10>of the war and see where it goes. I think

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01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:34.680
<v Speaker 10>that he has been you know, we've we've been hearing

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01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 10>comments over the past week or so about transferring of

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<v Speaker 10>populations One other idea that was floated around was the

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01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:45.199
<v Speaker 10>idea of Albania and Tanzania.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I think that those are all a lot

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01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:49.319
<v Speaker 7>of wishful thinking.

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01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:52.760
<v Speaker 10>It's not a it's not unheard of that the idea

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01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:56.039
<v Speaker 10>that you know, again from a an actual security and

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01:17:56.039 --> 01:18:01.079
<v Speaker 10>and a logistical standpoint, Israel cannot afford to live with

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01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:05.079
<v Speaker 10>the current situation and Hamas being their neighbors. So they've

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01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:09.239
<v Speaker 10>built for twenty years this network of terror tunnels and

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01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.399
<v Speaker 10>somebody needs to cleanse that in order to rebuild Gozom

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01:18:12.640 --> 01:18:16.720
<v Speaker 10>now moving out the population one point eight population out

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01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:21.039
<v Speaker 10>of Gozom. It's clearly not simple when you talk about

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01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:24.359
<v Speaker 10>the you know, the kind of the conversation regarding the

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01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:27.840
<v Speaker 10>communities or the countries that would be amenable to that

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01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.439
<v Speaker 10>or should be amenable to that. When we talk about

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01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.079
<v Speaker 10>Jordanians and Egyptians, Gazms are.

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01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.560
<v Speaker 7>Historically, ideologically, culturally, politically Egyptians.

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01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:41.239
<v Speaker 10>But let me remind you and your listeners that when

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01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:45.159
<v Speaker 10>under the Body and Administration there was conversation about when

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01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:49.039
<v Speaker 10>it came to RAFA about having free having safe zones

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01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:52.600
<v Speaker 10>in the Egyptian side. The Egyptians of course bulked at

1541
01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:55.880
<v Speaker 10>all of this, and the Egyptians have been somewhat complicit

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01:18:56.399 --> 01:18:59.920
<v Speaker 10>through the tunnel system as far as the oxygen that

1543
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:04.319
<v Speaker 10>allowed to come into Gaza through the tunnels, the funds

1544
01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:07.520
<v Speaker 10>come outs and whatnot, so to catch twenty two. But

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01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:11.479
<v Speaker 10>I think that all of this relates to my mind,

1546
01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:14.840
<v Speaker 10>and I think that this is part of the somewhat

1547
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:19.399
<v Speaker 10>state craft that Donald Trump puts out there, as far

1548
01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:21.960
<v Speaker 10>as carrots and sticks, as far as trying to shake

1549
01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:25.600
<v Speaker 10>up the narrative, as far as what was traditionally done

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01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:27.800
<v Speaker 10>and what can be done in order.

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01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:30.039
<v Speaker 7>To start a conversation that is different. I think it

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01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:31.640
<v Speaker 7>also signals to the.

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01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:35.680
<v Speaker 10>Our world and the our Palestinians in particular that there

1554
01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:38.960
<v Speaker 10>is a new sheriff in town. I'm saying they're going

1555
01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:41.199
<v Speaker 10>to be done differently, but at this point we have

1556
01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:44.640
<v Speaker 10>not seen any details, so where there's a lot of

1557
01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:47.319
<v Speaker 10>guessing at this point, and so what he actually means

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01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:47.760
<v Speaker 10>by that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, not just that area of the world. The world

1560
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:54.319
<v Speaker 1>seems to be a better place when there is a

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01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:58.000
<v Speaker 1>strong United States, and unfortunately over the last four years

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01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:01.279
<v Speaker 1>we haven't had that mentioned. The new sheriff in town,

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01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and I agree with that. I mean, he's not on

1564
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the job three weeks and all of a sudden, you know,

1565
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:09.680
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about something that is absolutely out of the box.

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01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:12.359
<v Speaker 1>No one had ever thought about before. And you know,

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01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:14.880
<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, the last four years, I'm not sure what

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01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:18.800
<v Speaker 1>we did but build some aborted dock that was going

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01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:21.800
<v Speaker 1>to lead into the Gaza Strip that, if I'm not mistaken, sunk.

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<v Speaker 1>So the stronger the United States is, the less volatile

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01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:29.319
<v Speaker 1>the world is. Would you agree, well, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think that what we have lost over the

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01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:34.039
<v Speaker 10>past four years, and I would actually go back to

1574
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:37.079
<v Speaker 10>the Obama administration from my vantage point to my way

1575
01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:40.479
<v Speaker 10>of thinking, that we have lost the sense of deterrence.

1576
01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:45.319
<v Speaker 10>There's been a policy of appeasement and attempts through what

1577
01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:50.439
<v Speaker 10>the Obama slags Biden policy makers have come up with

1578
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:54.840
<v Speaker 10>as far as realignment, those kind of policies have backfired.

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01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:59.319
<v Speaker 10>And going back to the current situation, the head of

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01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:01.680
<v Speaker 10>the HYDRA is the Islamic Republic of Iran.

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01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:04.239
<v Speaker 7>This has been the multi front war with Iran.

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01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:07.680
<v Speaker 10>Under the Biden administration, they have been able to release

1583
01:21:07.720 --> 01:21:11.359
<v Speaker 10>sanctions in the tone of one hundred and forty billion dollars.

1584
01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:15.039
<v Speaker 10>And so now that we are re entering once again

1585
01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:19.159
<v Speaker 10>maximum pressure regarding sanctions on Iran and the change in

1586
01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:22.079
<v Speaker 10>the world. There needs to be a re establishment of

1587
01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:26.079
<v Speaker 10>American deterrent and clear red lines. And Israel's war, the

1588
01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:28.880
<v Speaker 10>fact of the matter is also America's war. The enemies

1589
01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:31.960
<v Speaker 10>of Israel's fighting is also American enemy. And so to

1590
01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.640
<v Speaker 10>your point, the stronger we are, the stronger we stand

1591
01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:37.760
<v Speaker 10>by our allies, the better we are off in the

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01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:39.039
<v Speaker 10>world public states.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were people that live there. They might have

1594
01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:45.960
<v Speaker 1>been the sworn enemy of Israel. But the fact of

1595
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the matter is there were people that lived there and

1596
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:50.520
<v Speaker 1>nobody wanted them. Egypt did not want them. There was

1597
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.680
<v Speaker 1>no country in that region that one of the Palestinians.

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01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:58.279
<v Speaker 1>When this became an all out war shortly after October seven,

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01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:01.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, what are those people? Where

1600
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:03.439
<v Speaker 1>do they go? Because you think they're going to stand

1601
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:05.680
<v Speaker 1>by Idaly and watch Donald Trump come in with some

1602
01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:08.279
<v Speaker 1>construction company and build a bunch of high rises on

1603
01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>the Mediterranean Sea.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I don't think that that's going to happen. But

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01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:13.319
<v Speaker 7>let's be clear.

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01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:16.239
<v Speaker 10>Obviously, the origins of this conflict are been in over

1607
01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:21.479
<v Speaker 10>seven decades and the existence of Arab Palestinian refugees is

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01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:25.920
<v Speaker 10>a byproduct of Arab policies that happened, you know, in

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01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:30.159
<v Speaker 10>forties forty in the forties, and the argument back then

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01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:33.560
<v Speaker 10>during Israel's War of Independence forty eight forty nine was

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<v Speaker 10>and the message that I'm paraphrasing here, they told the

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01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:40.880
<v Speaker 10>inhabitants of the area, the Arabs leave once we eradicate

1613
01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:44.520
<v Speaker 10>design identity to their narrative quote, then you could come

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01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:48.119
<v Speaker 10>back to your area. When that did not happen, they know,

1615
01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:52.479
<v Speaker 10>this so called refugee probably came about and day by

1616
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:57.319
<v Speaker 10>design refused, they meaning the Arab world, Jordan and Egypt,

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01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:02.119
<v Speaker 10>the Rock Syria to take them in at citizens.

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01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:04.920
<v Speaker 7>To keep them in a stateless spasis in orders.

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01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:08.439
<v Speaker 10>For them to remind the world and the democratic Western

1620
01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:13.680
<v Speaker 10>world that these so called refugees are a result of

1621
01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:17.800
<v Speaker 10>Israeli in Western aggression. And so that has been a

1622
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:21.880
<v Speaker 10>calculated narrative but they've created in order to create the

1623
01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:26.000
<v Speaker 10>story that's been going on for seven plus decades. And

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01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:29.079
<v Speaker 10>in addition to that, which is more nefarious, you have

1625
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:32.239
<v Speaker 10>a UN agency known as UNRUM, which has been the

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01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:36.760
<v Speaker 10>gate keeper of those very refugees, and they're the ones

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01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:39.399
<v Speaker 10>post ten to seven, as we all saw, have been

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01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:41.840
<v Speaker 10>complicit with Amas.

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<v Speaker 7>They are come us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know you mentioned just a few minutes

1631
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:49.600
<v Speaker 1>ago Hamas only exists in its form because of Iran.

1632
01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the real head of this whole thing is Iran.

1633
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And Iran has been allowed to run away unfettered over

1634
01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the course of the last certainly the last four years,

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01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:01.399
<v Speaker 1>but eight of the last twelve years. And I guess,

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01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess the question to someone who is less schooled

1637
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>in these kinds of issues than I am, my question

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01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to you would be, how do these then two people

1639
01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>exist side by side. We know what it has looked

1640
01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:18.079
<v Speaker 1>like over the last forty years, but it would kind

1641
01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:22.079
<v Speaker 1>of be like the United States bordering Russia. I mean,

1642
01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>we know what that would be like. This is kind

1643
01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:27.800
<v Speaker 1>of the same way. So let's just say that this

1644
01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>is nothing more than a way for Donald Trump to

1645
01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>get everybody on the same page, in the same room

1646
01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:36.239
<v Speaker 1>and say, look, this nonsense is going to stop, and

1647
01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it's going to stop. Now, how does it go forward

1648
01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>with anything that would be something that would be absolutely

1649
01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>without question acceptable to Israel. Let's not forget was attacked

1650
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:52.279
<v Speaker 1>on October seventh in twenty twenty three, How do we

1651
01:24:52.319 --> 01:24:56.399
<v Speaker 1>go back to these two countries, if indeed it is

1652
01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>wherever the Palestinians go and Israel living in some sort

1653
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of closeness in this world, how does it go back

1654
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:03.199
<v Speaker 1>to that?

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01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:07.840
<v Speaker 10>Look, that's the age old question and it's been going

1656
01:25:07.880 --> 01:25:10.079
<v Speaker 10>on for plus seven plus decades. As far as the

1657
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:13.680
<v Speaker 10>oregon of the you know, the Israeli Palestinian dynamic, the

1658
01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:16.920
<v Speaker 10>difference is that the Arab world has changed, you know,

1659
01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.279
<v Speaker 10>as a result of what Trump did in the last administration,

1660
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:24.199
<v Speaker 10>we've seen normalized ties with Israel and other Arab countries.

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01:25:24.239 --> 01:25:25.399
<v Speaker 1>That's all very positive.

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01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:29.720
<v Speaker 10>The Israeli Palestinian dynamic is in particular a unique case study.

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01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:33.159
<v Speaker 10>And to your actual point, which is you know, very

1664
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:36.359
<v Speaker 10>well taken, Israel can't afford to live with Hamas. If

1665
01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.840
<v Speaker 10>Hamas was the objective of the eradication of Tamas was

1666
01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:43.359
<v Speaker 10>the goal of ten to seven is still the goal,

1667
01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:48.239
<v Speaker 10>and of course releasing the hostages and so inn Islamist

1668
01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:52.479
<v Speaker 10>terrorist organization where Israel lives through a modern day Holocaust,

1669
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:56.720
<v Speaker 10>and for the past fifteen months, it's unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 7>In a non starter.

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<v Speaker 10>So the number one step really is to disentangled whatever

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<v Speaker 10>one can from the civilian population, such as it is

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<v Speaker 10>from Ramas, and that's step number one. And unless you

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<v Speaker 10>do that, you're here. You're still going to be creating.

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<v Speaker 10>And look if you look at the environment today and

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<v Speaker 10>how the theater of the release of the hosckyges, where

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<v Speaker 10>Hamas feels empowered and they see it as a victory.

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<v Speaker 7>If Hamak comes out of the tunnels and the day

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<v Speaker 7>after tomorrow's scenario and they are alive and well, is

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<v Speaker 7>Eripe has failed and so of we.

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<v Speaker 10>And so the point is that to begin the conversation

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<v Speaker 10>about any of this is also defining the population and

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<v Speaker 10>eradicating from us, you know, devastating lake Israel has done

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<v Speaker 10>with Hazabella.

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<v Speaker 7>And so these are all part of the first challenges.

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<v Speaker 10>And then the bigger question is going to lead to

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<v Speaker 10>You have a very weak, pales stinting author. You have

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<v Speaker 10>an octagenarian leader Mahmouda Bases in his eighties serving you know,

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<v Speaker 10>serving his twentieth year of a four year term. And

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<v Speaker 10>the question is really who's and you know, who are

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<v Speaker 10>actually you dealing with?

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<v Speaker 7>So with Trump.

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<v Speaker 10>Trying to change the calculus of this equation and trying

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<v Speaker 10>to say I'm offering carrots, I'm offering six and you know,

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<v Speaker 10>basically implying that there's going to be money to rebuild

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01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:17.680
<v Speaker 10>gods and how it all looks like. There also has

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<v Speaker 10>to be a definition and an understanding of who your

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<v Speaker 10>partners are. To date, Israel has no partner to negotiate with,

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<v Speaker 10>and especially highlighted the fact that i'mas is still over

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<v Speaker 10>the border. So that's step one before anything. Let's you know,

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01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:36.039
<v Speaker 10>there has not been really negotiations around any kind of

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01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:40.720
<v Speaker 10>negotiating table for years, and let's not forget that to

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01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:44.840
<v Speaker 10>get to ten seven, it took Hamas twenty years to

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01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:47.880
<v Speaker 10>build that Terrior tunnel infrastructure. So they've been playing the

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01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:51.439
<v Speaker 10>long game, funded by the Iranians. And so those are

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<v Speaker 10>all the challenges that we need to tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, doctor asofrom A Rescue, our guests, we're talking about

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01:27:58.359 --> 01:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the Middle East. We're talking about Donald Trump, who wants

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01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:05.079
<v Speaker 1>to basically take over the Gaza strip. Doctor Romanowski. Romerowski

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01:28:05.159 --> 01:28:07.479
<v Speaker 1>is the executive director of Scholars for Peace in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East. You said, you you really hit an interesting point,

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01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:15.039
<v Speaker 1>and I think spot on a couple of minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you separate the everyday people that lived in Gaza,

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01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>many of which were taken hostage either physically or philosophically

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01:28:26.520 --> 01:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>by Hamas. How do you separate them from Hamas and

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01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>then eradicate Hamas? You know, everybody you said, well, the

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01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:39.439
<v Speaker 1>idf net Yahou just should have finished finished it off.

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<v Speaker 1>He was hampered, of course by Biden. Biden wouldn't give

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01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>him what he needed. But how do you how do

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? How do you separate the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are intent in causing terror and destruction in that part

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<v Speaker 1>of the world from the everyday people, many of whom

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01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:57.039
<v Speaker 1>just want to walk around and live their lives. How's

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01:28:57.119 --> 01:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that accomplished?

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<v Speaker 10>So that's the challenge, and that's the question of who

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<v Speaker 10>that entity is going to be to deal with. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 10>the reason we're able to devastate Hamas, and I would

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<v Speaker 10>say that Gaza is pretty much, you know, you know,

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01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:16.479
<v Speaker 10>close to you know, we're on the five yard line

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01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:19.520
<v Speaker 10>as far as you know, eighty five percent of Hamas

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01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:24.000
<v Speaker 10>being devastated. But that's because of human intel that the

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01:29:24.079 --> 01:29:26.760
<v Speaker 10>Israelis have given up, you know, back in two thousand

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01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:29.359
<v Speaker 10>and five when they left Gas up to begin with,

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01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:32.199
<v Speaker 10>and now they're you know, re establishing you know, again

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<v Speaker 10>intel human intel as well as other kind of cyber

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01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:38.880
<v Speaker 10>intelligence and whatnot. You have to deal with the leadership

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01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:41.479
<v Speaker 10>and its proxies all around, and then you have to

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01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.520
<v Speaker 10>deal with the population, and that's going to require a

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01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:48.319
<v Speaker 10>significant amount of a you know, going through a series

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01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:53.279
<v Speaker 10>of background checks and affiliations and whatnot. Hamas, you know,

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01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:56.800
<v Speaker 10>the Hamaths, like many of these system as groups, and

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01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:59.960
<v Speaker 10>this is the biggest challenge as an entire charwer of

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01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:03.279
<v Speaker 10>will Wing. They do meals on wheels, they do they

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01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:06.479
<v Speaker 10>do social services and whatnot, and so from the perspective

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01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:12.960
<v Speaker 10>because of Palestinian authority, it's so weak Tamasa's attractiveness to

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01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:16.880
<v Speaker 10>Palestinian society and gaza that it's still devoid. And so

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01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:22.439
<v Speaker 10>they have a difficult time, you know, disengaging themselves from Hamas,

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01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:23.880
<v Speaker 10>who has been taking care of them.

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<v Speaker 7>But Hamas has also been abusing them.

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<v Speaker 10>They've they've been taking their homes away, they've been trying

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01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:32.119
<v Speaker 10>they've been taking the foods and services and stealing them

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01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:35.520
<v Speaker 10>at highway robbery and selling them back to the Palestinian population.

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<v Speaker 10>So for the population to start trusting any entity that's

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01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:43.279
<v Speaker 10>part of the entity that is yet to be created,

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01:30:43.720 --> 01:30:48.039
<v Speaker 10>to start creating, you know, a division between Hamas Allegiance

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01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:51.319
<v Speaker 10>and Hamas members and other inflummist groups that are part

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01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:56.479
<v Speaker 10>of Gazam, and you know, trying to maintain the integrity

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01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:00.720
<v Speaker 10>of a civilian population that needs to be re educated

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01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:03.359
<v Speaker 10>and you know, and to talk about, you know, what

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01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:08.319
<v Speaker 10>are the building blocks of trying to change the narrative

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01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:12.640
<v Speaker 10>that they've been taught for years and decades that Israel

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01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:16.279
<v Speaker 10>has no right to exist and the Jews are sons

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<v Speaker 10>of pigs and monkeys.

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<v Speaker 7>That entire narrative needs to shift.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's the same narrative that they feel about the

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<v Speaker 10>West at large.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're absolutely right. This is a cultural thing. It's

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01:31:26.479 --> 01:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>not going to be settled by somebody going and look,

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01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>who knows what comes of what the President said. I

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01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>admire him for thinking outside the box and certainly the

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01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:40.159
<v Speaker 1>way he's dealt internationally with Mexico and Canada on tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what he does with China. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that is going to require a lot

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01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:47.319
<v Speaker 1>of time on task because, as you said, this has

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01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>been going on since the late forties. This isn't some

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01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:52.159
<v Speaker 1>phenomena that has occurred in the last couple of years,

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01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:55.279
<v Speaker 1>doctor Romeo Rawski, How can we find you? What do

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01:31:55.359 --> 01:31:58.279
<v Speaker 1>people find you? You sound like you're well versed in

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01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>this and you certainly have been on me all over

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01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the country and have been published as well. Where can

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01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>people find you?

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01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:06.079
<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 10>Stme's website is stme dot org and my website is

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01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:14.920
<v Speaker 10>my last name, r O m I r Owsky dot com.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's where I you can see my work and

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01:32:17.960 --> 01:32:19.920
<v Speaker 10>the work that we do all over the places.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a pleasure doctors. Stay well, Okay, I tell

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01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:25.159
<v Speaker 1>people this that have a lot of good things to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Stay well. We need to hear your voice. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you as little. I appreciate it absolutely. It's complex

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01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>problems require thought, no easy solutions, and that ain't breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thirty News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 6>You know we have the cat sudyce to get it done,

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01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:43.439
<v Speaker 6>and I know you know I want to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody involved, Trey t Jamar, Mike g we all want

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<v Speaker 1>to stay together.

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<v Speaker 8>So they said, hey, we need you to restructure.

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<v Speaker 9>It's something you would consider not knowing what the numbers

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<v Speaker 9>are you belong to lease have that type of conversation

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<v Speaker 9>to keep the core guys together, of.

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<v Speaker 8>Course, got it? Hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the new general manager of the Cincinnati.

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01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:15.720
<v Speaker 8>Can't fight laying it on him.

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01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Fig isn't he ken? Oh my god? FS one Mike

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01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Brown sitting in that corner suite at pay Stubb Stadium

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01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>saying what we have here?

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01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:27.520
<v Speaker 12>He knows full well that the entire fan base loves

1808
01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:30.640
<v Speaker 12>him way more than they do anybody in the front office.

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01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:33.760
<v Speaker 12>And so if he puts puts the pressure on him,

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01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:38.439
<v Speaker 12>they're gonna either fold or not well.

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<v Speaker 1>And and he and and he threw Mike g into that.

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01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:44.159
<v Speaker 1>He threw Gaseki into that too, So it's you know

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<v Speaker 1>what he's it's they They don't have to negotiate with

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01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>anybody except Burrow. Where's your posse? How much did they want?

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<v Speaker 1>And then we'll figure out how to pick a corner.

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01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>You can actually stop somebody.

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<v Speaker 8>Defer, defer, defer. He was on f S one, ESPN

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<v Speaker 8>and I think he was on CNN. He's I mean

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<v Speaker 8>he was then than Trump is. Yeah, he's like like

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<v Speaker 8>unbelievable and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're in this town. There could be Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow day, like Bobby Bonia day into twenty one two.

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<v Speaker 9>That's true, He's gonna he's gonna get paid more than

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<v Speaker 9>Ken Griffy. Do you want to if if Red's paid

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<v Speaker 9>him what ten years after the fact at least?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Griffy, they just stopped paying Griffy two years ago.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, they're still paying Bania what for?

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<v Speaker 1>Either what?

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<v Speaker 8>Ten years? Or unbelievable?

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Macker? Maybe Mike Brown the first some of his

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<v Speaker 1>payments too. You know what, Wait a minute, works.

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe maybe he'll get the county tell what whoa whoa whoa.

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<v Speaker 12>We can take some of that gambling money that Dwine

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<v Speaker 12>wants to increase the raid on and fork that over

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<v Speaker 12>to t Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody ever asked Mike Dwane what his favorite online betting

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<v Speaker 1>app is. That's my first. Are you a Graft Kings guy,

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<v Speaker 1>a fan duel guy or ESPN bet guy? Where is

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<v Speaker 1>it with you, Mikey? That's what I would have asked

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<v Speaker 1>for at MGM.

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<v Speaker 8>He would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you have Ohio State or Oregon in that

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game? David Well? I like, well, you know, so, Rocky,

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<v Speaker 1>good to see you, Good to see you as well,

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<v Speaker 1>said good to see you as well. Tam Here Ken

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<v Speaker 1>we have it's a big night in the NFL. We

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<v Speaker 1>have the awards ceremony. Joe Burrow has already said he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't expect any awards tonight, even Comeback Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>But Rocky I think he would run candidate for that,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you He would be a strong candid.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he'd be a strong candidate for that.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean with the injury he had, and then you

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<v Speaker 12>could make more than a strong enough case that he

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<v Speaker 12>could have won m v P this year. Yep, with

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<v Speaker 12>a defense that was a lackluster and some you know,

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01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:42.600
<v Speaker 12>run game that wasn't exactly their offensive line that wasn't

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<v Speaker 12>the best in the league, and perform the way he did.

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<v Speaker 8>Give it to him.

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<v Speaker 1>No, absolutely, Seig What else is going on in sports

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<v Speaker 1>here that's pertinent to what we need to know as

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<v Speaker 1>a society.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the kitchen it look like seg You know

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<v Speaker 1>how that could come to life.

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<v Speaker 12>If they were Sam Anderson naked in there and making flapjacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now you're talking. What I'm telling you is is

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else cooking in that kitchen besides me? That would

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<v Speaker 1>make my dream kitchen come to long.

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01:36:32.119 --> 01:36:35.000
<v Speaker 8>There you go, there you go. Yeah, you'd have a

1878
01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:36.680
<v Speaker 8>big kitchen like the Food Network.

1879
01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:40.039
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly I'd be the Emerald Lagassi of Cincinnati.

1880
01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:44.000
<v Speaker 9>Bam Bam, Super Bowl fifty nine Sunday, Chiefs and Eagles.

1881
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:45.199
<v Speaker 8>Who you got there? Ken Brew?

1882
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, I got I got a craft beer from Little Miami.

1883
01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know?

1884
01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:53.760
<v Speaker 8>Okay, Oh I'm sorry, okay, sorry, No.

1885
01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I love the Eagles. I think the Eagles are a

1886
01:36:56.840 --> 01:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>terrific team. I think they can shorten the possession of

1887
01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. I don't think and we go, yeah, I

1888
01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:06.119
<v Speaker 1>don't think they can get I don't think the Eagles

1889
01:37:06.119 --> 01:37:09.039
<v Speaker 1>can get to thirty points. And even though the Chiefs

1890
01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>have only a clips thirty, I believe once this season.

1891
01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:16.199
<v Speaker 1>I just think the Chiefs are more diverse. They'll figure

1892
01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:18.359
<v Speaker 1>out a way not to let Barkley beat them. I'm

1893
01:37:18.359 --> 01:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>looking at Kansas City. Why, here's what's going to happen.

1894
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Tell me if I'm crazy. I know I am, but

1895
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:25.159
<v Speaker 1>just tell me if I'm crazy about saying them. The

1896
01:37:25.279 --> 01:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs win the Super Bowl, Travis Kelsey gets down on

1897
01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:31.319
<v Speaker 1>one knee in the field with a ring and ask

1898
01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift to marry him, and she says, no, that's

1899
01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:37.439
<v Speaker 1>what I'm predicted. On Sunday, the world will end. And

1900
01:37:37.439 --> 01:37:39.159
<v Speaker 1>he's got to say, no, what do you I'm not

1901
01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>marrying you? He what too much? Yeah?

1902
01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:47.159
<v Speaker 8>That where she tells him to quit. Yeah, yeah, well

1903
01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:47.840
<v Speaker 8>I'll marry you.

1904
01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:50.760
<v Speaker 12>But you're right, you must give up this silly game

1905
01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:52.279
<v Speaker 12>of football and.

1906
01:37:52.199 --> 01:37:54.119
<v Speaker 1>You must fly with me on my jed to the

1907
01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>next tour that I have, which will encompass the next

1908
01:37:56.319 --> 01:37:58.199
<v Speaker 1>five years. He could tune her guitar. I bet you

1909
01:37:58.239 --> 01:37:59.319
<v Speaker 1>he could tune her guitar.

1910
01:37:59.479 --> 01:38:04.079
<v Speaker 9>But I'm just hey, hey, hey, hey, we're not in

1911
01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:07.920
<v Speaker 9>safe harbor. Come on, Buck, iys coach Buck Eye, coach

1912
01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:11.640
<v Speaker 9>Ryan Day a new seven year deal today, twelve and

1913
01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:12.479
<v Speaker 9>a half million.

1914
01:38:13.520 --> 01:38:14.439
<v Speaker 8>They become He's.

1915
01:38:14.399 --> 01:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Buy out after the next year.

1916
01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:20.920
<v Speaker 9>Second they he becomes the second highest paid college coach

1917
01:38:20.960 --> 01:38:24.640
<v Speaker 9>in America behind Georgia's Kirby Smart twelve.

1918
01:38:24.319 --> 01:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>And a half a year. Yeah, they must have. They

1919
01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:30.359
<v Speaker 1>must got a lot of nil money up there. They

1920
01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:32.479
<v Speaker 1>just might. They just I'm not saying for him. I'm

1921
01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:35.199
<v Speaker 1>just saying to get him to do that for that money,

1922
01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they must have a lot of nil money. We don't know.

1923
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.720
<v Speaker 8>They had twenty two million last year. They lost seven

1924
01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:42.600
<v Speaker 8>million in athletic department this year.

1925
01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, I don't find it.

1926
01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:48.199
<v Speaker 9>Don't worry somehow Red's pitchers and catchers reports a spring

1927
01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:51.159
<v Speaker 9>training camp on Monday, Ken Brew, don't be late.

1928
01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not you know what. Yeah, they're picked to finish

1929
01:38:54.760 --> 01:38:56.720
<v Speaker 1>dead last in the division this year. Did you see that?

1930
01:38:56.840 --> 01:38:56.880
<v Speaker 5>No?

1931
01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:59.760
<v Speaker 8>Bye bout by a bunch of people. I don't think

1932
01:38:59.800 --> 01:39:00.560
<v Speaker 8>that's gonna happen.

1933
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:03.279
<v Speaker 9>One of them said that the Reds pitching stands come

1934
01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:05.399
<v Speaker 9>runs this year.

1935
01:39:05.439 --> 01:39:08.920
<v Speaker 8>I'll take that. Where's fan duel or whatever, I don't

1936
01:39:08.920 --> 01:39:09.399
<v Speaker 8>know what it is.

1937
01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:12.399
<v Speaker 1>You look though, at the standings right that that that

1938
01:39:12.439 --> 01:39:14.479
<v Speaker 1>they had there. They're all kind of bunched up. Every

1939
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>team in that division. I mean, I think there's only

1940
01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>six or seven games separating Glass from first. So my

1941
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:20.439
<v Speaker 1>theory is.

1942
01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:22.000
<v Speaker 8>I think it's going to be close all year long.

1943
01:39:22.119 --> 01:39:25.079
<v Speaker 1>If that's the case, then come trade deadline time, we'll

1944
01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>know how much the Reds front office, in particular their ownership,

1945
01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>wants to win, because if they're that close by deadline time,

1946
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:35.039
<v Speaker 1>you got to go out and spend money and get

1947
01:39:35.039 --> 01:39:37.079
<v Speaker 1>a bat. If they don't do that, then that tells

1948
01:39:37.079 --> 01:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you a lot too.

1949
01:39:38.920 --> 01:39:39.479
<v Speaker 8>Good point.

1950
01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Anybody disagree with me?

1951
01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:42.199
<v Speaker 8>Not at all?

1952
01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:45.399
<v Speaker 12>No, Okay, former red z out feelers big swings can

1953
01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:46.399
<v Speaker 12>let's go.

1954
01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:48.520
<v Speaker 8>Bengals need to make some big swings too.

1955
01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:52.000
<v Speaker 12>Absolutely, trade up in the in the draft, do something,

1956
01:39:52.039 --> 01:39:52.960
<v Speaker 12>do something different.

1957
01:39:53.039 --> 01:39:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Hey, let me ask, Let me ask both of you guys.

1958
01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:58.439
<v Speaker 1>You ever heard this song before this one?

1959
01:39:59.319 --> 01:39:59.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

1960
01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Said you heard the

1961
01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>song right?

1962
01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:02.399
<v Speaker 5>Well?

1963
01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know. Guess who's playing that guitar. A man

1964
01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>by the name of William Bruce Rose. They call him

1965
01:40:11.600 --> 01:40:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Axel Rose. And today Axel Rose turned sixty three years old.

1966
01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:17.159
<v Speaker 8>How about that? Wow?

1967
01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:20.960
<v Speaker 9>Last hour it was Rick Ashley and what's sixty sixty

1968
01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:24.399
<v Speaker 9>fifty nine fifty nine? Axel Rose is sixty three. I

1969
01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:27.199
<v Speaker 9>think he's with a C D C now is and

1970
01:40:27.279 --> 01:40:29.880
<v Speaker 9>still playing. Are they another farewell tour?

1971
01:40:29.920 --> 01:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And whenever they do that? But he he joined them

1972
01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>like ten years and will.

1973
01:40:32.720 --> 01:40:34.760
<v Speaker 12>Tell you what when they came to Paul Brown Stadium

1974
01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:37.760
<v Speaker 12>in twenty fifteen, Ken Brew and my dad went to it.

1975
01:40:37.760 --> 01:40:40.520
<v Speaker 12>It was right there in front of the stage. Unbelievable

1976
01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:41.319
<v Speaker 12>show they put on.

1977
01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:44.199
<v Speaker 1>No I know that. Actually, I don't think he's playing this.

1978
01:40:44.479 --> 01:40:46.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's playing this song that Mike Kid.

1979
01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>That might come as a shock to the rest of

1980
01:40:48.680 --> 01:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the group, but he is their lead singer.

1981
01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:52.239
<v Speaker 12>I was gonna say, I didn't think I was gonna

1982
01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:54.119
<v Speaker 12>I thought it was a trick question. I assumed it

1983
01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:55.760
<v Speaker 12>was Slash that was playing the guitar.

1984
01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it is Slash. The words come out sometime,

1985
01:40:58.760 --> 01:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, rock and you just can't grab him back.

1986
01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:04.159
<v Speaker 1>But it is. It is Axel Rose birthday today, So

1987
01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>happy birthday.

1988
01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:09.000
<v Speaker 8>Happy birth from what is like Lafayette, Indiana or something.

1989
01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>He's from up in that way, yeah, that way of

1990
01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:13.479
<v Speaker 1>the country. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who gets

1991
01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:15.760
<v Speaker 1>into the Hall of Fame tonight? Seg who you're banking on?

1992
01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:20.279
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I hoping big Willie does too, but I don't know.

1993
01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:22.720
<v Speaker 9>He is the highest. He has the best odds of

1994
01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:26.800
<v Speaker 9>any lineman going in according to the North Carolina Betting Association.

1995
01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:31.800
<v Speaker 9>We gambling is big in North Carolina. But he's a

1996
01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:34.359
<v Speaker 9>twenty five percent to get in. But I agree with you,

1997
01:41:34.439 --> 01:41:35.560
<v Speaker 9>Rock Kinkley gets in.

1998
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:38.199
<v Speaker 8>Gets in. I'm blue good for him.

1999
01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask this. I got one other questions I

2000
01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>want to ask, why are the Democrats so ben out

2001
01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>of shape about Elon Musk doing it? He dive into

2002
01:41:47.279 --> 01:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>things like USA Aid and every other you know, spending

2003
01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:53.479
<v Speaker 1>that's just wasteful in this country. What are they trying

2004
01:41:53.479 --> 01:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to hide, Rocky? What are they trying to hide the Dems.

2005
01:41:56.119 --> 01:41:58.159
<v Speaker 12>It's amazing because first of all, the crowd will no

2006
01:41:58.159 --> 01:42:02.439
<v Speaker 12>one elected Elon Musk? Yeah, but you TRUPI aligned himself

2007
01:42:02.479 --> 01:42:05.279
<v Speaker 12>with Elon Musk way way back, so you knew you

2008
01:42:05.279 --> 01:42:08.960
<v Speaker 12>were gonna get him. He has no legislative or executive power.

2009
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:12.640
<v Speaker 12>He is told by the President find the waste is

2010
01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:15.279
<v Speaker 12>using AI. He's got this team can of like twenty

2011
01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:18.399
<v Speaker 12>something year old guys like whiz kids, Okay, that are

2012
01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:22.560
<v Speaker 12>going in using AI finding all this corruption and he's

2013
01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:23.960
<v Speaker 12>bringing to the president's attention.

2014
01:42:24.439 --> 01:42:26.159
<v Speaker 8>How could What is the problem with that.

2015
01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>When somebody says he wasn't elected. I got two words

2016
01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>for him, Tony Fauci, who turned this country upside down

2017
01:42:32.840 --> 01:42:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and halfway sideways? And what do we get out of it? Bengo.

2018
01:42:36.359 --> 01:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>So you don't give me that he wasn't elected. Yeah,

2019
01:42:39.319 --> 01:42:41.800
<v Speaker 1>but they're scared. They're trying to. They're trying to they're

2020
01:42:41.920 --> 01:42:44.079
<v Speaker 1>scared of something coming out. There really are a lot

2021
01:42:44.079 --> 01:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of them. You look at somebody told me Chuck Schumer's

2022
01:42:46.680 --> 01:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>worth eighty one million dollars. It's a guy that got

2023
01:42:49.359 --> 01:42:51.279
<v Speaker 1>his law degree in nineteen seventy five. I don't think

2024
01:42:51.279 --> 01:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>he ever worked in the private sector.

2025
01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:55.199
<v Speaker 12>Now, that's why I think they're scared, and they're trying

2026
01:42:55.239 --> 01:42:56.800
<v Speaker 12>to put a stop to it because I know they're

2027
01:42:56.840 --> 01:42:57.239
<v Speaker 12>on the.

2028
01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:02.159
<v Speaker 9>Nancy Melos's husband and that it's like all these these

2029
01:43:02.159 --> 01:43:03.319
<v Speaker 9>stock deals and stuff.

2030
01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:06.079
<v Speaker 1>That dude might as well have the New York Stock

2031
01:43:06.159 --> 01:43:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Exchange as his legal address.

2032
01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:12.079
<v Speaker 12>What if Trump balances the budget solely on finding ways,

2033
01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:14.439
<v Speaker 12>will that be the greatest accomplishment in the history of

2034
01:43:14.439 --> 01:43:15.079
<v Speaker 12>the presidency.

2035
01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:16.640
<v Speaker 8>It may happen.

2036
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Tariffs and then you got you got our buddy Tommy

2037
01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Tubberville today introducing a piece of legislation that says, no

2038
01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>tax on social Security benefits. You're going to get double

2039
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>taxed right now. You're getting double tax no tax on

2040
01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>social security benefits, which I said just a little while ago.

2041
01:43:32.399 --> 01:43:34.119
<v Speaker 1>For a guy that said go to hell get a job,

2042
01:43:34.319 --> 01:43:36.199
<v Speaker 1>that's really a growth point for it.

2043
01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:40.520
<v Speaker 12>Yes, he's showing growth, he's showing gross yeh.

2044
01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Because I got Eddie and Rock you're coming up at

2045
01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:48.239
<v Speaker 1>three oh five. I realize all I am is is

2046
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a bridge, a conduit. I'm just somebody that can get

2047
01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>us from one part of the broadcast in or the

2048
01:43:52.960 --> 01:43:56.039
<v Speaker 1>other without anybody getting hit by a boat. Just wondering

2049
01:43:56.079 --> 01:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>what's coming up Rock at three oh five you and

2050
01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>your aging side.

2051
01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:05.399
<v Speaker 12>Well, he is still on his cruise with one dev Haas. Yes,

2052
01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:08.079
<v Speaker 12>he went to Antarctics, one of those nude cruises in

2053
01:44:08.119 --> 01:44:08.680
<v Speaker 12>the Antarctic.

2054
01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:09.680
<v Speaker 8>Guess is that right?

2055
01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:12.960
<v Speaker 12>Clothing not completely optional, it's actually frowned upon.

2056
01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Wow, cover those appenditures up. You don't want to get

2057
01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:16.359
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

2058
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:19.640
<v Speaker 12>But so so he's Jason Williams and I we will

2059
01:44:19.680 --> 01:44:20.600
<v Speaker 12>be coming right.

2060
01:44:20.439 --> 01:44:22.600
<v Speaker 8>Out King of the Inquiry. Baby, start with a little

2061
01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:24.039
<v Speaker 8>stadium discussion.

2062
01:44:24.079 --> 01:44:26.359
<v Speaker 12>He had a great article today on a good idea

2063
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:28.159
<v Speaker 12>I think in terms of trying to figure out this

2064
01:44:28.239 --> 01:44:31.760
<v Speaker 12>whole stadium. Who's going to pay for a situation? Bring

2065
01:44:31.800 --> 01:44:36.319
<v Speaker 12>in some outside people. Yeah yeah, just keep taxing you.

2066
01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>By the way, despite the good ideas, the people that

2067
01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>will pay for that will be the good denizens of

2068
01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Hamelin County.

2069
01:44:42.199 --> 01:44:44.880
<v Speaker 12>I got a good idea. Bring Elon Musk and the

2070
01:44:44.920 --> 01:44:47.840
<v Speaker 12>team of whiz kids down. You go find all the corruption,

2071
01:44:48.199 --> 01:44:50.560
<v Speaker 12>all the waste will spend in Hamil County, and you'll

2072
01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:52.720
<v Speaker 12>pay for the stadium with it deep.

2073
01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Into Hamlin County. Bring the boys in, let's go. Well say,

2074
01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>we should probably go because we're still in the way

2075
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:01.199
<v Speaker 1>of greatness here.

2076
01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:02.359
<v Speaker 8>That's true ken Brew.

2077
01:45:02.399 --> 01:45:04.600
<v Speaker 9>In honor of a nice day here in the tri State,

2078
01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:08.960
<v Speaker 9>we leave you with the immortal words of the Stood Report.

2079
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:11.520
<v Speaker 8>Hey, thanks for having me on, guys. I've checked the

2080
01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:13.920
<v Speaker 8>deals in ratings, and it's about time you had me

2081
01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:16.239
<v Speaker 8>back instead of the battle out mouse you've had on

2082
01:45:16.319 --> 01:45:17.680
<v Speaker 8>the past couple of weeks both.

2083
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>So have me back always little.

2084
01:45:19.279 --> 01:45:22.079
<v Speaker 9>More, because the people who love the Wizard, you know

2085
01:45:22.159 --> 01:45:22.720
<v Speaker 9>what I'm saying.

2086
01:45:23.079 --> 01:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you, guys, later.

2087
01:45:26.479 --> 01:45:28.319
<v Speaker 8>Then when Tom Gamble and what does get?

2088
01:45:31.560 --> 01:45:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is the opening act in the Elon Lounge

2089
01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:37.720
<v Speaker 1>at the Trump Plaza Tower on the Mega Gaza Strip.

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<v Speaker 9>Coming sooner, veg Vegas Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>You boys stay, We have a sphere there too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to get out of here. It's the Early

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<v Speaker 1>Bird Special coming up. That's an hour, good going, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>happy hours amongst us Rocky and Eddy. Your next on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW
