Speaker 1: All right, twelve oh eight, welcome in me. And it
Speaker 1: is the average American in for the great American on
Speaker 1: this Thursday. I hope you're having a great day wherever
Speaker 1: you are. Nobody's having the kind of day that Ohio
Speaker 1: State football coach Ryan Day has had so far. He's
Speaker 1: signed a seven year deal up in Columbus. He's gonna
Speaker 1: make twelve and a half million dollars a year, all
Speaker 1: for winning a national championship. No way that deal gets done.
Speaker 1: After that, Michigan came back in November. Hey man, live
Speaker 1: in the moment, get what you can, right. Well, we've
Speaker 1: seen just at breakdeck pace here in less than three weeks,
Speaker 1: Trunk forty seven. And I mean it's not one or
Speaker 1: two things a day, it's six or seven things a day,
Speaker 1: not the least of which is trying to buy the
Speaker 1: Gaza Strip. And of course Elon Musk is doing a
Speaker 1: deep dive into where this country is spending money and
Speaker 1: how it's wasting money. And for some reason, the Democrats,
Speaker 1: or at least the more vocal Democrats, have chosen that
Speaker 1: hill to die on. And it makes you wonder why
Speaker 1: anytime you have a business that is losing billions of dollars,
Speaker 1: yet its cash flow is still fairly strong. And that's
Speaker 1: literally what's going on in this country. We're trillions of
Speaker 1: dollars with the tea in debt, and yet our cash
Speaker 1: flow is relatively strong. I mean, half of this country
Speaker 1: pays income tax to say nothing about what the GDP generates.
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is, anytime you have
Speaker 1: a situation like that, any auditing company, any accounting company,
Speaker 1: would come in and do what is known as a
Speaker 1: deep dive into finances and to find out where this
Speaker 1: is being spent, why it's being spent, and what you
Speaker 1: can do so that that money is not being spent frivolously.
Speaker 1: And apparently there's a lot of money being spent frivolously,
Speaker 1: and that has the Democrats all up in arms. And
Speaker 1: it makes one wonder, why can't everybody just look at
Speaker 1: this country and say, you know what, we all live here,
Speaker 1: we all breathe the same air, we all drink the
Speaker 1: same water. Do we really want to be insolvent and
Speaker 1: at some point the cash cow falls over and goes dead.
Speaker 1: Why can't people get along and understand there is a goal,
Speaker 1: and the goal is the common good? You know, I
Speaker 1: thought about that a lot in the last couple of days,
Speaker 1: and then I thought about a man by the name
Speaker 1: of Kennon Spivak, who I have on this show quite
Speaker 1: a bit. He writes for a number of different outlets,
Speaker 1: including Real Clear Policy. You see him on a number
Speaker 1: of national cable shows. And again again, I've had Kennan
Speaker 1: on before, and then I saw him on a podcast
Speaker 1: about talking about the very same thing. He has great
Speaker 1: friends in his life that aren't Democrats. He was a
Speaker 1: Democrat at one time, and now he is a republican
Speaker 1: conservative in his voice, but at least open minded to
Speaker 1: things that might be of beneficial to everybody, Democrats, independence, Republicans.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to get him on today to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that, how we can't all see
Speaker 1: the greater good. And so it's my great pleasure to
Speaker 1: welcome on in here to seven hundred WLW. Kennon Spivac.
Speaker 1: How are you on this glorious day.
Speaker 2: I'm great, Ken, and I'm really glad to be back.
Speaker 1: Where are you, if anywhere in this world right now.
Speaker 2: Kennon, I am in Palm Beach, where I admit I
Speaker 2: attended one of my conservative covens, the annual dinner of
Speaker 2: real clear politics. Uh, but we did this morning talk
Speaker 2: about getting along with people who don't always agree with us.
Speaker 1: I watched today. I don't know if you saw it.
Speaker 1: You might have been involved with the shakers and movers
Speaker 1: that are down there. But I watched today the National
Speaker 1: Prayer Breakfast, which I had the honor of attending a
Speaker 1: couple of times when I worked in Washington, DC. And
Speaker 1: I heard the president President Trump talk just about that,
Speaker 1: and he cited many members of Congress that were there
Speaker 1: on both sides of the aisle. It was a more
Speaker 1: subdued Trump. He can't help himself. He gets off the
Speaker 1: rails every now and again, but by and large, it
Speaker 1: was a conversation of look, you don't like a lot
Speaker 1: of the things I'm doing. I don't like a lot
Speaker 1: of the things that you're doing. But remember why we're
Speaker 1: all here. We're trying to do the country's business. And
Speaker 1: although he can be a cerbic at times, he can
Speaker 1: be sarcastic at times. I noticed on this podcast, you're
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. I'm from the East Coast as well, spent
Speaker 1: a lot of my youth there. It's a different kind
Speaker 1: of humor. He is from Queens, New York. It's a
Speaker 1: different kind of humor that has often misinterpreted. But it
Speaker 1: just it seemed to me that that's really where this
Speaker 1: country needs to go. And I think it's fairly evident
Speaker 1: where this country wants to go in the wake of
Speaker 1: the November elections, So why can't it go in that direction?
Speaker 2: You know, it really should be able to. One of
Speaker 2: the things this election proved is that people of all
Speaker 2: ethnic backgrounds, people of all religions, all thing just came together.
Speaker 2: And how they voted. Now, by the way, some voted
Speaker 2: for Harris, some voted for Trump, really didn't see a
Speaker 2: division along the lines that were accustomed to thinking of
Speaker 2: those divisions. Now, there was some economic divisions, and there
Speaker 2: were some education divisions that were a little bit more rigid,
Speaker 2: but that's not who people are on the day they're born.
Speaker 2: That's not how people first off identify themselves. And we
Speaker 2: really ought to be able to see that there is
Speaker 2: for most people common objectives, and for most people there
Speaker 2: is more or less an agreement on the facts. And
Speaker 2: if we can agree on objectives, and if we can
Speaker 2: agree on facts, even if we continue to disagree on
Speaker 2: some of the methods and best ways of getting there.
Speaker 2: We're going to get along a whole lot better.
Speaker 1: Right. In fact, again, I'm not sure the name of
Speaker 1: the podcast you were on, but you mentioned a great
Speaker 1: you had a great line, and it's not an original.
Speaker 1: I think I've heard it before. Everyone is entitled to
Speaker 1: their own opinion, but not everyone is entitled to their
Speaker 1: own facts. Facts are facts and they don't change. But
Speaker 1: people seem to gravitate to these echo chambers that give
Speaker 1: them affirmation for what they believe, and they seem to
Speaker 1: reject places where they give them information. And I think
Speaker 1: that's probably where this uniting of this country needs to begin.
Speaker 1: Listen to somebody else besides the folks that are telling
Speaker 1: you what you believe.
Speaker 2: Right Well, first to give credit to the podcast, it
Speaker 2: was the Conversation on the Immigrant Storyteller Channel, and it
Speaker 2: was a lot of fun doing that podcast. The quote
Speaker 2: is from Daniel Patrick moynihan you pointed.
Speaker 3: Out, which is correct.
Speaker 2: I started out as a Democrat. I worked for a
Speaker 2: New York State assemblyman, and I was ultimately the deputy
Speaker 2: Press secretary when Daniel Patrick moynihan won his election to
Speaker 2: the US Senate. And the line that people are entitled
Speaker 2: to their own opinions, but not their own facts. Comes
Speaker 2: from Daniel Patrick moynihan, a man who work in both
Speaker 2: for Republican and Democrat administrations, a man who, by today's
Speaker 2: standard many people would think should be a Republican. What
Speaker 2: he really was was a centrist, maybe even slightly center
Speaker 2: right Democrat, except on socialists, where he was clearly a Democrat.
Speaker 2: And there really are only one set of facts. There
Speaker 2: are multiple sets of opinions. You can look at the
Speaker 2: same facts and come to a different conclusion as to
Speaker 2: the best way of solving things. An example, I gave
Speaker 2: him a podcast, and I think it's a good example.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any questioning the fact that a
Speaker 2: child who's born in a wealthy, well connected household is
Speaker 2: going to have more advantages in life than a child
Speaker 2: bought into born into a blue collar household, even if
Speaker 2: he's born to two caring parents who believe in his
Speaker 2: education and believe in his success, let alone, if he's
Speaker 2: born into a single parent household that they have a
Speaker 2: drug addicted parent who couldn't care less.
Speaker 3: About the child.
Speaker 2: All of those have a different chance in life. You
Speaker 2: can either therefore, conclude that the solution is diversity, equity
Speaker 2: and inclusion and programs based on race and hiring and
Speaker 2: promoting and contracting with people without regard to meritocracy. Or
Speaker 2: you can conclude that the best path forward are education
Speaker 2: program that support programs to allow everyone to achieve their
Speaker 2: full potential, but without making decisions that ultimately benefit people
Speaker 2: based on race and disregard their qualifications and experience. I
Speaker 2: come out of the second camp. I understand that people
Speaker 2: come out of the first. But whatever camp someone comes
Speaker 2: out in, we should start by recognizing what the real
Speaker 2: issues are, what the real facts are, because we disagree
Speaker 2: about those like people who think that the plight of
Speaker 2: black people is based on a willful, systemic effort by
Speaker 2: whites to dominate.
Speaker 3: Over them, which is just not true.
Speaker 2: If we're going to evaluate these things off of wrong
Speaker 2: beliefs and facts that are in facts, will never get
Speaker 2: to a common ground.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And the only word I can think
Speaker 1: of in the wake of that is trust. And it
Speaker 1: almost nobody trusts each other, I think, and certainly in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. I think you wrote an article I want
Speaker 1: to say two three weeks ago for real clear politics.
Speaker 1: Centrist democrats can't get past tds and the left, and
Speaker 1: you highlight the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Centrist Democrats
Speaker 1: opposed correspundent district attorneys. Centrist Democrats believe DEI has gone
Speaker 1: way too far, even though some of that is not
Speaker 1: necessarily a bad thing. You get into the way Democrats
Speaker 1: and Republicans view things like Israel, pro choice, pro life,
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. But it's trust, and you have
Speaker 1: to when you extend a hand, as we're hoping will
Speaker 1: happen in Washington at some point in our lifetimes, you
Speaker 1: have to have the trust that that hand won't be
Speaker 1: swatted away but embraced in a shake. And it seems
Speaker 1: like nobody wants to take that first step, and nobody
Speaker 1: wants to take the trust that what they believe may
Speaker 1: be some sort of common ground on the other side.
Speaker 1: How do you get trust if there is no trust?
Speaker 2: All right? First, I think that this what Richard Nixon
Speaker 2: used to call the silent majority. The vast majority of
Speaker 2: Americans have maybe not trust in government, but they have
Speaker 2: more trust in other Americans and in other people than
Speaker 2: we would think by looking at the activists and what
Speaker 2: they have to say. Second, I think that the biggest problem.
Speaker 2: And I don't say this because I'm the conservative. I
Speaker 2: say this because I observe people, and I have many
Speaker 2: friends who are liberals. The biggest problem is not liberals.
Speaker 2: It's far left progressives who will take the head off
Speaker 2: of anyone, even another fellow progressive, who in any way
Speaker 2: shows accommodation to the center or the right. So put
Speaker 2: that twenty percent of America to the side for a second,
Speaker 2: and put to the side maybe you know five percent
Speaker 2: on the far right that do the same. It's a
Speaker 2: much smaller group that there are people that do the same.
Speaker 2: That middle is most Americans. It's most of us. It's
Speaker 2: the people who make a living, who run the country,
Speaker 2: who will elect the politicians. I think that center group
Speaker 2: they don't need to form a new party. They can
Speaker 2: stay as Republicans and Democrats. They just have to force
Speaker 2: their elector representatives to understand what they want is to
Speaker 2: achieve common goals, not just keep fighting and not just
Speaker 2: keep attacking each other. The longer the far left keeps
Speaker 2: attacking some of the social issues on which Donald Trump ran,
Speaker 2: the longer it's going to be before the Democrats can
Speaker 2: regain any control, or more importantly, to what I'm saying
Speaker 2: now achieve any results. Maybe they need to calm down
Speaker 2: on the social issues and work with the Republicans on
Speaker 2: economic issues, on foreign policy, on issues where there are
Speaker 2: disagreements in America, but not on the ultimate goals for
Speaker 2: the most part, on the means of getting there.
Speaker 1: I know you mentioned this in the podcast. I referenced
Speaker 1: that a lot of shows are echo chambers. In other words,
Speaker 1: the guests saying something to what the audience wants to hear,
Speaker 1: and then the next guy says it, then the next
Speaker 1: guy says it. I really truly don't want and have
Speaker 1: never wanted to make my show an echo chamber, because
Speaker 1: I don't think you get anywhere doing that. You go
Speaker 1: back to the affirmation information argument. But I do find
Speaker 1: it interesting, and I think you would too. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: we sent a lot of money to Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: And what Elon Musk is doing right now is just
Speaker 1: absolutely throwing the Democrats into an absolute rage. Chuck Schumer,
Speaker 1: who I know. Your mother and his mother have a history.
Speaker 1: They knew each other many many years ago. In fact,
Speaker 1: his mother was instrumental in getting your mother to send
Speaker 1: you to law school. It's a phenomenal story. I urge
Speaker 1: anybody that is listening that would listen to that podcast,
Speaker 1: they should listen to it. But the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is he looked absolutely asinine, standing up and yelling
Speaker 1: and screaming, We're gonna win, We're gonna win. There's great
Speaker 1: waste in this country. And it makes me wonder why
Speaker 1: is it such a firestorm for the Democrats. It makes
Speaker 1: you wonder where all that money went and why it's
Speaker 1: a problem for them right now. Do you have any
Speaker 1: idea why they're behaving this way?
Speaker 2: Well, twofold and is one very small way. I'm going
Speaker 2: to say that I share a concern.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 2: They want to protect the deep state. They want to
Speaker 2: protect the administrative state. For the most part, Musk is
Speaker 2: going after those parts of the federal government which have
Speaker 2: tilted very very far to the left, like USA, and
Speaker 2: they want to protect those programs. To a small degree.
Speaker 2: There is some ambiguity, though Trump has tried a bit
Speaker 2: to write it, on whether Musk's role is as a
Speaker 2: master auditor, as a supplier of it expertise and analysis,
Speaker 2: or whether he's making decisions he should not be making decisions.
Speaker 2: He's not an elected official. Now, the president can delegate.
Speaker 2: But there are some processes, there are some statutes and
Speaker 2: rules that we do need to make sure are being followed.
Speaker 2: But to the extent that what Musk is doing is
Speaker 2: providing all the information and the capabilities of executing on decisions,
Speaker 2: I think he's doing a terrific job and something that
Speaker 2: is helping all Americans. We just have to make sure
Speaker 2: the decisions are being made by elected officials and that
Speaker 2: Trump makes that more clear.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I agree one hundred percent. And I think
Speaker 1: we've had far too much in this country in the
Speaker 1: last five years, decision made by people that were appointed,
Speaker 1: and we had no voice in their ability to make
Speaker 1: decisions for you and me and everybody else. I got
Speaker 1: to run. The next time I have you on, I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you because in a previous life,
Speaker 1: and I did not know this, you work for MGM Universal.
Speaker 1: I had no idea and you had some purview over
Speaker 1: some of the best movies that were ever made. Am
Speaker 1: I right about this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Mgm UA we made Rainman, James Bond, Rocky, Pink Panther,
Speaker 2: all sorts of movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and I want to you know what, and
Speaker 1: it holds true to my philosophy, Kennan that everything in
Speaker 1: life runs through Cincinnati because Rainman was filmed here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: A large part of it was filmed right here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Did you know that?
Speaker 2: I now that you remind me. The answer is yes.
Speaker 2: See I think everything runs through Cincinnati because of Procter
Speaker 2: and Gamble.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably true too. Look, I'm great to have you on,
Speaker 1: and I know we cut into your time down there
Speaker 1: in Florida, but you've got plenty of time to have
Speaker 1: lunch and rub shoulders with the shakers and movers Kennan Spivak.
Speaker 1: You can read them all over, but certainly at real
Speaker 1: clear politics and the real clear policy section of that.
Speaker 1: Stay well, my friend, we will talk down the road.
Speaker 3: Thank you great, Thanks by night.
Speaker 1: It's true Rainman was filmed right here in Cincinnati, right
Speaker 1: long Columbia Parkway, Dustin Hoffman, Tom Cruise film, part of
Speaker 1: it in Hyde Park Film, part of it over there
Speaker 1: at the Greater Cincinnati Airport. But he's right. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you know, the luck has got to get past
Speaker 1: Trump arrangements. You lost. The reason why you lost is
Speaker 1: what you're screaming about right now. Stop it. Find somebody
Speaker 1: that can lead your party, get back to what your
Speaker 1: core beliefs are and stop acting like idiots. Why is
Speaker 1: that not? Why is that not more evident now than
Speaker 1: what it was on November fifth? It's startling, it really is.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the savior is for that party.
Speaker 1: It's somebody, but man, I haven't found it yet. And
Speaker 1: as far as what Musk is doing, Hey, look we're
Speaker 1: thirty six trillion dollars in debt. Only half of this
Speaker 1: country pays income tax. I'm one of them. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to know where my money's going. Anybody know where
Speaker 1: the money went to Ukraine? Anybody vote for that? How
Speaker 1: many know? How many people know where that money to
Speaker 1: Ukraine went? Hell, the Ukrainians don't even know where it went.
Speaker 1: And then all of this other stuff with usaaid and
Speaker 1: the nonsense that we're funding unbeknownst to us with those dollars.
Speaker 1: You'd bet I want to do a deep dive. I
Speaker 1: think most rational people will. Anyway, it's twelve twenty six.
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Speaker 1: the average American in for the Great American. I had
Speaker 1: a laugh listening to our newscast a couple of minutes ago.
Speaker 1: Greg Landsman is he's afraid that there won't be any
Speaker 1: federal workers left, or there'll be so many that resign
Speaker 1: that the business of the government can't get done. First
Speaker 1: of all, it's not going to happen. They're under what
Speaker 1: their projections were they wanted pluss I check, what was it?
Speaker 1: Forty thousand? You realize how big the federal government is,
Speaker 1: how many employees the federal government has. I think Greg
Speaker 1: needs to be more concerned about this waste of your
Speaker 1: tax dollars and my tax dollars. And instead of yelling
Speaker 1: and screaming and dancing on the steps of the Capitol
Speaker 1: like Chuck Schumer did, let's get more people interested in
Speaker 1: where are money's going. Apparently Elon Musk is now going
Speaker 1: to go after Doze, is now going to go after
Speaker 1: and stand by for the yelling and screaming on this.
Speaker 1: They're going to go after medicated Medicare. And you're going
Speaker 1: to hear the Democrats say, oh, they're going after your Medicare,
Speaker 1: they're gonna take it away. Granting is gonna die, He's
Speaker 1: not gonna have enough. No, it's not what's happening. He's
Speaker 1: looking at just how bloated those services are and how
Speaker 1: much money is being spent wasted on those services. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of fraud that goes on inside the federal government.
Speaker 1: That's what he's doing. It's not like Elon Musk is
Speaker 1: going to go in there and take away somebody or
Speaker 1: somebody's money. He's not doing that. It's eyes only, and
Speaker 1: it reports back and then Trump does what Trump thinks
Speaker 1: is best, and then they go about it and honestly,
Speaker 1: rather than standing on the steps of the capital and
Speaker 1: you're screaming in an unhinged manner, which is what I
Speaker 1: saw Democrats do yesterday, they ought to be as concerned
Speaker 1: about this stuff as republicans. UPI reported more than one
Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars and in proper Medicare and Medicaid payments
Speaker 1: were made in twenty twenty three. Not to you, if
Speaker 1: you have coming, but to people that are double dipping
Speaker 1: or they're dead. Fifty one point five billion with Medicare,
Speaker 1: fifty one point billion with a B billion dollars with
Speaker 1: medicare twenty one billion with a B dollars with Medicaid.
Speaker 1: That's about forty three percent of all improper payments in
Speaker 1: the government. That's what he's doing. He's saying, look, look
Speaker 1: what's going on here. But I still find it fascinating
Speaker 1: why Democrats are so worked up over this. What do
Speaker 1: they know that we don't know yet? Oh, I just
Speaker 1: want to know where the money's going. Money's going for
Speaker 1: the super Bowl on Sunday, It's going towards at this
Speaker 1: point Kansas City. This line is morphed from Kansas City
Speaker 1: minus one and a half to Kansas City minus one.
Speaker 1: Over under on this game is forty nine and a half.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. There's a lot of interesting prop bets.
Speaker 1: There are prop bets that can be made with this game.
Speaker 1: And standing by to help us with that is a
Speaker 1: guy that I've known forever. I mean forever it's going well,
Speaker 1: not forever. That's an overstatement. Elon Musk would come to
Speaker 1: me and say, wait a minute, that's an overstatement. Get
Speaker 1: it back on the rail. So I would say I've
Speaker 1: known Joe Fortenbat for at least fifteen years and maybe
Speaker 1: closer to twenty and I have him on the show
Speaker 1: every now and again. He is the money guy on
Speaker 1: ESPN right now. You can find him on ESPN dot com.
Speaker 1: You can find him on ESPN's betting shows normally between
Speaker 1: six and six thirty on the mother Ship afternoon host
Speaker 1: on ESPN Radio, and a guy who's made leaves and
Speaker 1: bounds since I first saw him. I first met him,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get him on now to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about the wagering on this game. Joe Fortenbaugh,
Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious Thursday, Ken, I'm doing great.
Speaker 4: I can always count on a few things.
Speaker 5: In my life, just if you, and one of them
Speaker 5: is that I'm gonna hear from you, a friend.
Speaker 4: Of mine, twice every year. I'm gonna hear.
Speaker 5: From you in August because we're gonna preview the Bengals,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna hear you right before the Super Bowl
Speaker 5: to talk.
Speaker 4: About the Big Gates. So it's always an honor to
Speaker 4: come on your radio show. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here now. You mentioned the Bengals will
Speaker 1: get it out of the way. Would you consider them
Speaker 1: as somebody who watches this thing globally. Would you consider
Speaker 1: them a disappointment this year?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I love this team.
Speaker 5: I love them, And I'm not saying that because of
Speaker 5: the audience I'm speaking to. It's just it's the rarest thing, right,
Speaker 5: It's the rarest thing to.
Speaker 4: Hit a home run at the quarterback.
Speaker 5: Position and you got it.
Speaker 4: And when you have that, you've gotta be able to
Speaker 4: do better than missing out on the playoffs.
Speaker 5: I don't care if it's because of a slow start,
Speaker 5: a defense, referees offensive line, I don't care, Like it
Speaker 5: just doesn't matter, Like that's not a player that should
Speaker 5: be missing the postseason when we see.
Speaker 4: Some of these guys that get in.
Speaker 5: So yeah, absolutely, I mean Jamar Shat had a huge season,
Speaker 5: Higgins looked great.
Speaker 4: The defense is obviously a problem.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you talk about it all the time,
Speaker 5: but it was a huge disappointment because we talked about
Speaker 5: the legacies of Mahomes and Lamar and Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: Burrow needs to be there side by side with them.
Speaker 5: The weekend that Josh Allen is going against Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 5: Burrow needs to be going against Mahomes and vice versa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, listen, if the Bengals had made the playoffs,
Speaker 1: do you think Burrow would get serious consideration for MVP
Speaker 1: if he's not already getting it now, because it sounds
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson is going to get this thing. But
Speaker 1: if they had made it, do you think that would
Speaker 1: have enhanced his ability to be a contender for the MVP?
Speaker 4: Without question?
Speaker 5: As you know, I'm a bit of a gambling man myself,
Speaker 5: and we studied this market every single year, and what
Speaker 5: we know about this market is that two criterias stand
Speaker 5: out involve all else Number one playing quarterback. Number two
Speaker 5: being a one or.
Speaker 4: A two seed. Making the playoffs would have helped them.
Speaker 5: But when you go back, it's something like sixteen of
Speaker 5: the last seventeen have been a quarterback.
Speaker 4: The one dissenter is Adrian Peterson, and.
Speaker 5: Then it's something along fifteen of the last sixteen don't
Speaker 5: quote me, but it's close are either a one or
Speaker 5: a two seed, and predominantly.
Speaker 4: A one seed. Now this year, that's going to be
Speaker 4: interesting because I think Lamar Jackson's going to win it.
Speaker 5: If you look at the history of the voters, the
Speaker 5: voters who vote for all pro tend to be the
Speaker 5: same voters who are voting for MVP, and if Lamar
Speaker 5: Jackson was named First Team All Pro, reason could show
Speaker 5: us that he's going to end up winning the MVP
Speaker 5: as well. So Burrow making the playoffs definitely would have
Speaker 5: improved the odds. But to not make the postseason the
Speaker 5: first thing people are going to argue, and it's no
Speaker 5: fault of Jos, but the first thing they're going to
Speaker 5: argue is, well, how valuable can you be if they're
Speaker 5: not even in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I know, I know, and it's it's as
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: It's totally wrong, but it's a great analogy there about
Speaker 1: what you've got, what your team's got to do to
Speaker 1: help you get something like that. But listen, so this
Speaker 1: game is it's a Chiefs minus one and a half.
Speaker 1: That tells me that line is probably gonna morph a
Speaker 1: little bit before game day? Does that tell you the
Speaker 1: same thing?
Speaker 5: This is interesting because the thing with this is it's
Speaker 5: been sitting here all week, and normally the Super Bowl
Speaker 5: line gets pounded early and then we're done with it.
Speaker 4: But we're not dancing around.
Speaker 5: Any key numbers, right, key numbers being three, seven, six, ten,
Speaker 5: numbers like that.
Speaker 4: When it comes to the point spread. So I'm looking
Speaker 4: at this and I'm thinking to.
Speaker 5: Myself, Okay, I got a feeling we're gonna see Philadelphia
Speaker 5: money at some point. I think the guys are waiting
Speaker 5: to see how good of a price they can get
Speaker 5: with the Here's what I mean by that. Most people,
Speaker 5: if you look at some of the guys who model
Speaker 5: this stuff, they have this game either pick them or
Speaker 5: they might have Philly.
Speaker 4: As a small favorite.
Speaker 5: Problem is, if you're a book maker, you can't hang
Speaker 5: that price because you'll get crushed with Chiefs money because Mahomes.
Speaker 4: As an underdog. The public loves Mahomes all that stuff.
Speaker 5: So it's not just about setting a good number. You
Speaker 5: got to be able to balance your books. You got
Speaker 5: to be a bookmaker and an.
Speaker 4: Odds maker, right. You got to come out with a
Speaker 4: smart price. So what we saw in the AFT Championship
Speaker 4: game was very telling.
Speaker 5: Buff Kansas City was minus one and a half minus
Speaker 5: two all week, less than forty five minutes before kickoff.
Speaker 5: All this Buffalo money came in and knocked.
Speaker 4: It down to pick up.
Speaker 5: That was sharp professional money coming in on the bills.
Speaker 4: The Eagles are power ranked higher than the Bills, and
Speaker 4: this game is on a neutral.
Speaker 5: It's not an arrowhead, so I think the same thing
Speaker 5: is coming.
Speaker 4: I think there's going to be Egle money. I think
Speaker 4: the guys are waiting.
Speaker 5: To see what's the best price they can get on
Speaker 5: the Eagles, and then at some point, as we get
Speaker 5: close to the kickoff, you're.
Speaker 4: Gonna see that money hit the market.
Speaker 5: That's my prediction for how this goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm with you on that completely. I just
Speaker 1: you and I have seen this too many times to
Speaker 1: not believe that's exactly what's going to happen. It always
Speaker 1: seems to be the end because the guys that are
Speaker 1: smart wait till the end. Right. They're not laying They're
Speaker 1: not laying anything right now. They're waiting. They would wait.
Speaker 1: They wait as long as they can, right.
Speaker 5: It depends on what numbers we see. There are some
Speaker 5: years where when you throw out a point bred at
Speaker 5: three and a half, they might jump in on the
Speaker 5: dolls because they're gonna anticipate that money and they want
Speaker 5: to be on the right side of the key number
Speaker 5: of three. This number sitting one and a half is
Speaker 5: a little bit of a dead zone. Same thing with
Speaker 5: the total it was sitting forty nine and a half.
Speaker 4: Usually, if you like the under, you wait.
Speaker 5: Until close to the kickoff because the public isn't going
Speaker 5: to bet the under. The public wants to bet on
Speaker 5: action and scoring. They're gonna bet the over, So you
Speaker 5: let them get involved late and they push the number up,
Speaker 5: you get a better price.
Speaker 4: We're starting to see some under money. Now keep that
Speaker 4: in mind.
Speaker 5: It's just a little It went from forty nine and
Speaker 5: a half to forty nine, but that's very telling to me.
Speaker 5: I think what that tells us is there's a thought
Speaker 5: process that we are not going to see a lot.
Speaker 4: Of possessions in this game. Philadelphia is gonna run.
Speaker 5: Philadelphia likes to bleed the clock in between plays, and
Speaker 5: when Kansas City's out there, it's gonna be short thinking,
Speaker 5: dunk eat intermediate passing routes, and I think they're going
Speaker 5: to want to try to keep the Eagle offense off
Speaker 5: the field and try to wear down that Philadelphia defense.
Speaker 5: So I think it's going to be a much slower
Speaker 5: game than people anticipate as a result limited possessions, limited plays,
Speaker 5: Maybe it's less scoring than people realize. I have not
Speaker 5: bet the under, but I think that's why you're seeing
Speaker 5: under money.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to lay this one on you too, because,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Philadelphia likes to run the ball. Barkley
Speaker 1: averages I think one hundred and sixteen hundred and seventeen
Speaker 1: yards per game, or at least he did through the
Speaker 1: regular season. The projection on him to prop on him
Speaker 1: is ninety three and a half yards in this game.
Speaker 1: I'm getting this from DraftKings. Everybody is saying bet the under.
Speaker 1: It my one eleven. I kind of feel it might
Speaker 1: be the under simply because Kansas City plays the run
Speaker 1: so well. It's like four four point one yards per run.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Barkley goes off in this game,
Speaker 1: do you.
Speaker 5: Chiefs are number eleven in the league in defensive rush
Speaker 5: success rate.
Speaker 4: Spagnolo is obviously going to have a.
Speaker 5: Great game plan for how to attack Saquon Barkley. It's
Speaker 5: not like Spags is coming into this game saying we
Speaker 5: need to shut down the Eagles passing attack, everything else
Speaker 5: doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Like they know what the Eagles want to do. If
Speaker 4: you get beat through the air, so be it.
Speaker 5: But you can't get beat on the ground.
Speaker 4: You know, that's what Philly's coming for.
Speaker 5: This prop was as high as one twenty four and
Speaker 5: a half, which was wild because only nine running backs
Speaker 5: in history have done that and the Super Bowl gone for.
Speaker 4: What's twenty five or more and the last one was
Speaker 4: Throughout Davis with the Broncos against the Packers.
Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety eight, So keep that in mind as
Speaker 5: this number is dropped.
Speaker 3: It's interesting.
Speaker 4: I'm not involved in anything with Barkley right now.
Speaker 5: His receiving pop will probably be.
Speaker 4: Two and a half perceptions.
Speaker 5: I'll probably go under that because he doesn't get too
Speaker 5: involved in the passing game.
Speaker 4: But for the rushing prop, it's like, do.
Speaker 5: I want to bet against him knowing two long runs
Speaker 5: can get him there? But do I want to bet
Speaker 5: on them knowing Yeah, it's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Yards in a big matchup and it's a really good team.
Speaker 4: So I haven't done anything with him yet. Longest rush
Speaker 4: twenty four and a half yard.
Speaker 5: I might just bet the over on that Kenny break one,
Speaker 5: and I think that is a better approach to play
Speaker 5: than the over under for his total yardage.
Speaker 1: Eagles run a lot of plays. They run a lot
Speaker 1: of plays. I don't know what they are in the leg,
Speaker 1: but they were up somewhere around sixty plays per game
Speaker 1: the last I looked, I just feel, you know, given
Speaker 1: these weather conditions inside, it's gonna be perfect. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for a big game from AJ Brown. I think the
Speaker 1: prop on him in this is four and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the over at minus one sixty eight. That's
Speaker 1: what I saw on FanDuel earlier today. I think I'm
Speaker 1: taking AJ Brown four and a half. I'm taking the
Speaker 1: over on that at minus one sixty eight. What about you, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm right with you.
Speaker 5: Sixty nine and a half is the receiving yards I've
Speaker 5: gone over. He's thirty to one to win MVP. I
Speaker 5: always like to sprinkle a little bit on.
Speaker 4: Some of the long shots.
Speaker 5: He's one of my long shots this year at thirty
Speaker 5: to one, and there's a there's an escalator where you
Speaker 5: can play him to go over one hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: five receiving yards. It's like seven to one. So at
Speaker 5: ten dollars, bet pays seventy bucks. I would play that
Speaker 5: as well. All right, Kansas City plays man coverage fifth
Speaker 5: most in the NFL top five.
Speaker 4: That's how much they deploy man coverage.
Speaker 5: No receiver in the NFL has recorded more receiving yards
Speaker 5: per game.
Speaker 4: Against the band coverage than AJ Brown.
Speaker 5: Do you know one of the other guys who's great
Speaker 5: against Dick Jamark Chase.
Speaker 4: He's right at the top of the list.
Speaker 5: Chase has more touchdowns against the band coverage than anyone.
Speaker 5: Brown has more yards per game six touchdowns for him
Speaker 5: as well. I think the matchup suits him, and I
Speaker 5: think Jalen Hurts as you watch him, it's going to
Speaker 5: get him those opportunities where Hurts drops back. He doesn't
Speaker 5: like to throw over the middle of the field. He
Speaker 5: chucked it down the sideline at boom, there's a J
Speaker 5: Brown to make a play.
Speaker 4: So I really like AJ Brown in this game.
Speaker 5: The other one that's real popular is Dallas Goddards the
Speaker 5: Philly tight end. Over four and a half perceptions, over
Speaker 5: forty nine and a half receiving yards. The Chiefs get
Speaker 5: decimated by opposing tight end.
Speaker 4: No one's given up more yardage to opposing tight ends
Speaker 4: than Kansas City.
Speaker 5: And on top of that, Hurts has looked at Goddard
Speaker 5: more in the playoffs than any of his other receivers.
Speaker 5: So I understand that I'm looking for good things from
Speaker 5: two different pass catchers, but I think those are the
Speaker 5: guys Hurts is gonna target, aj Brown and Dallas Goddard.
Speaker 1: I think both Hurts and Mahomes go over their their
Speaker 1: total for passing yards. Hurts is one ninety six and
Speaker 1: a half. The prop on him is two thirty one
Speaker 1: or the projection I'm here, I'm sorry, is two thirty one.
Speaker 1: Mahomes two forty eight is the prop. The projection is
Speaker 1: two fifty five. They're both Hurts I think is minus
Speaker 1: one point fourteen if I'm not mistaken. Mahomes is minus
Speaker 1: one ten. I saw both of those on Bet three
Speaker 1: six earlier today. I'm going over with both of them.
Speaker 1: I know you're saying they're going to be it's going
Speaker 1: to be a more methodical, sloggy game as opposed to
Speaker 1: this wide open, you know, blow him out. But I
Speaker 1: still think at the end of the day, the other
Speaker 1: than Barkley, Hurts is the best guy they got on offense,
Speaker 1: and Mahomes makes everything go on offense for Kansas City.
Speaker 1: So I'm going over. I'm going over with these passing
Speaker 1: yard totals. What about you.
Speaker 5: We'll think about it like this Hurts his numbers really low,
Speaker 5: Like if he throws and he's also an underdog.
Speaker 4: So if the game script is him trailing Kansas City,
Speaker 4: he's going to be throwing the ball, and he's got
Speaker 4: a low total, and he's got plenty of weapons around him,
Speaker 4: and he's indoors on a fast track.
Speaker 5: Yeah, situation sets up very nicely, So I got nothing
Speaker 5: wrong with that. I think one way to play Mahomes
Speaker 5: is I was looking at over completions.
Speaker 4: It was somewhere around twenty two and a half twenty
Speaker 4: one and a half. Here's why I like the completion.
Speaker 5: Vic Fangio's Philadelphia defense. They play this too high shell,
Speaker 5: this covered two that he kind of started going heavy
Speaker 5: with a few years ago when he realized we got
Speaker 5: to stop giving up home runs to guys like Kyreek Hill.
Speaker 5: It's the copycat league. Everyone started copying it.
Speaker 4: It's why we.
Speaker 5: Saw less scoring over the last few years and why
Speaker 5: unders were hitting more frequently, because you don't have these
Speaker 5: offenses hitting home runs like they were because of.
Speaker 4: The two high safety look.
Speaker 5: As a result, you can eat that two high safety
Speaker 5: look up underneath dank and dunk, dank and dunk.
Speaker 4: It works very well against these guys.
Speaker 5: So the Eagles won't give up the home run, but
Speaker 5: they will let you cut them up underneath.
Speaker 4: Enter the completions prop.
Speaker 5: I think Kansas City is going to struggle to run
Speaker 5: the ball consistently in this game, and I don't think
Speaker 5: the deep shots are going to work. So I think
Speaker 5: an extension of their running game is going to be
Speaker 5: the short passing game. I think it's just going to
Speaker 5: be Mahomes three yards here, Mahomes five yards there, Mahomes
Speaker 5: four yards there, as they work their way down the field.
Speaker 4: Before you know it, you're over twenty two and a
Speaker 4: half completions. So that's how I'm playing. Mahome.
Speaker 1: Are you the richest man in broadcasting? Because you've got
Speaker 1: all this still down you live in Vegas. I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering if you're the richest guy in broadcasting right now.
Speaker 5: Well, the thing about that is it all sounds so
Speaker 5: good right before the game kicks off. Yeah, And then
Speaker 5: sometimes I spent two weeks and spent all this time,
Speaker 5: and you go into this game and it's the complete
Speaker 5: opposite game script of what you thought, and none of
Speaker 5: your stuff head and you're just in shambles by the
Speaker 5: end of the day. So I don't know.
Speaker 4: We'll talk after.
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Maybe I will be the richest man in broadcasting.
Speaker 1: You know, I love you. Joe Fortenball. You can see
Speaker 1: him on ESPN most nice. I think around six or
Speaker 1: six thirty, and then of course on ESPN Radio on
Speaker 1: the afternoon. Stay well, my friend, go go ahead.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I was gonna say.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We move around a lot, but once football.
Speaker 5: Season ends, ESPN two, the show's ESPN BET Live. We're
Speaker 5: six to seven pm Eastern, and we're pretty consistent throughout
Speaker 5: the non football season, so we got a lot of
Speaker 5: hoops going on.
Speaker 4: But I appreciate you promoting it as always. Ken, Thank
Speaker 4: you so much.
Speaker 1: You stay well, my friend. We need to hear your voice.
Speaker 5: Okay, absolutely, thank you, Ken, Thank you Cincinnati, you guys.
Speaker 1: It's my guy, Joe Partenbau. Yeah. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's going to be any of that's gonna come true,
Speaker 1: but my guess is some of it will. We're twelve
Speaker 1: fifty five already on this Thursday afternoon. Think of the
Speaker 1: progress we have made as a society. Think of it
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Speaker 1: sick society that is America, the American healthcare system is
Speaker 1: at of whack. It's another one of the targets of
Speaker 1: the Trump administration, how to get Americans healthier again. Now
Speaker 1: it comes with a catchy phrase, Maha, make American healthy again.
Speaker 1: But okay, once you get by slogans and everything, what
Speaker 1: does it mean? RFK Junior will be the next Secretary
Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services. It will happen. The last
Speaker 1: roadblock was Senator Bill Cassidy from Louisiana, who's a doctor.
Speaker 1: He had problems with RFK Junior's position on vaccinations. But
Speaker 1: after he got I guess convinced that RFK was not
Speaker 1: the radical that he has been portrayed to be, he
Speaker 1: voted to get him out of committee. And now it
Speaker 1: will go on to the full Senate, and the full
Speaker 1: Senate will confirm Kennedy as HHS Secretary. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: change for the moment, just how sick we are as
Speaker 1: a society. There is a former pharmaceutical consultant, food consultant,
Speaker 1: and someonet of great repute inside the medical industry CALLI Means,
Speaker 1: who pointed out in an interview that I listened to
Speaker 1: a few months ago, and I wrote this down because
Speaker 1: it's so important. We are four percent of the world's population.
Speaker 1: You me, everybody else in the United States, we are
Speaker 1: four percent of the world's population. We produce seventy five
Speaker 1: percent of pharmaceutical profits. And in the world, of all
Speaker 1: the countries that populate this world, we are sixtieth sixtieth
Speaker 1: in life expectancy. And why is that a lot of
Speaker 1: people think it goes back to the late nineteen forties,
Speaker 1: in the wake of World War two, antibiotics became very
Speaker 1: popular during the course of World War Two and then
Speaker 1: for general consumption immediately after World War Two. They were
Speaker 1: considered to be drugs of panacea, that they could cure everything.
Speaker 1: And so we got into not preventing health problems, not
Speaker 1: curing health problems, but treating health problems, and suddenly everything
Speaker 1: became a chronic illness. Today, ninety five percent of all
Speaker 1: medical spending is spent on chronic conditions, conditions that, if diagnosed,
Speaker 1: you will have them for a lifetime. And of course
Speaker 1: to treat chronic illness requires a lot of money, and
Speaker 1: that's just what big medicine wants, a lot of your money.
Speaker 1: So this is what RFK Junior in a way wants to,
Speaker 1: if not fix, certainly get to a point where it
Speaker 1: is not as dire a situation as it is in
Speaker 1: this country. Everybody thinks, you pop a pill, hey, I'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Well, it might keep you alive for another
Speaker 1: six months, eight months, and then what happens, Well, you
Speaker 1: got to find some more pills to take, maybe different pills.
Speaker 1: Well what does that do, Well, it crosses this problem
Speaker 1: over here. So let me get some pills for that,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, You're a walking Elvis Presley.
Speaker 1: You're taking every single pill known to mankind? How do
Speaker 1: we get out of that? I turned for all health
Speaker 1: matters to my good friend Todd Furnas. He has written
Speaker 1: I think a definitive and actually a very short book
Speaker 1: defining where we are as a country and where we
Speaker 1: need to go. It's called the sixty Percent Solution, Rethinking Healthcare.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to get Todd on the program because
Speaker 1: I think by this time next week RFK will have
Speaker 1: been confirmed. So, Todd Furnas, how are you on this
Speaker 1: glorious Thursday.
Speaker 3: I am doing, Danny Ken, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. Look, we'll see if RFK gets
Speaker 1: confirmed by the Senate. He got through committee, and we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens when he gets to the full Senate vote.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of what he's been saying
Speaker 1: is a lot about what you and I have been
Speaker 1: talking about. I mean, it's just out there. We're a
Speaker 1: small fraction of the world's population. We produce all of
Speaker 1: these pharmaceutical medicines, and we have untold profit for these
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical groups. And then when you drive right down to it,
Speaker 1: the life expectancy of an American male or female is
Speaker 1: pretty poor when put up against the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: So what's going on.
Speaker 6: Here, Well, a very big question. Let me start with
Speaker 6: the intro around our kJ. I think he's going to
Speaker 6: get confirmed based on the stuff that I'm seeing and hearing.
Speaker 6: It was interesting because I know with certainty that a
Speaker 6: torrent of mothers called in to Senator to Cassie's office too,
Speaker 6: shall we say, encourage him to vote in favor of denomination,
Speaker 6: which occurred.
Speaker 3: So that's thing number one. Thing number two is, yes,
Speaker 3: we are.
Speaker 6: Paying disproportionately for the research, development, marketing, and sales of
Speaker 6: pharmaceutical drugs, which does then created a profit in the
Speaker 6: pharmaceutical companies, which neither you nor I would regredge them
Speaker 6: unless it means that the United States is paying more
Speaker 6: than anybody else by sometimes a factor of a ten
Speaker 6: or one hundred or even a thousand, and that just
Speaker 6: didn't write. So that's there's a fairness question there. And
Speaker 6: I don't know that we want to be using pharmaceuticals
Speaker 6: as an example of foreign aid, which is the fact
Speaker 6: that what we're doing by subsidizing drug production here in
Speaker 6: the United States through the FDA, and then through the markets,
Speaker 6: price the market prices here and then selling them cheaply
Speaker 6: overseees that it's essentially a form of foreign aid.
Speaker 3: It's a way to pay.
Speaker 6: Way to think about it, I think that's a little
Speaker 6: misguided because it means that we don't keep around the ball.
Speaker 6: And then, lastly, with regard to life expectance, yes, we're
Speaker 6: not doing a very good job. That goes back to
Speaker 6: another thing that our FKJ has advocated, which is cleaning
Speaker 6: up our food support and getting that in order. Because
Speaker 6: it's not just a question of do we have medicines,
Speaker 6: it's what causes what causes the need for medicine. It's
Speaker 6: an illness for a chronic issue, and we have more chronic.
Speaker 3: Diseases than we know what to do with.
Speaker 6: So we've got to solve these problems systemically.
Speaker 3: On that side of the equation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got to get more towards curing disease as
Speaker 1: opposed to treating it as a chronic disease. The history
Speaker 1: of this I goes back I guess goes back to
Speaker 1: when antibiotics first came into the public health forum, and
Speaker 1: that was when right after World War Two, and obviously
Speaker 1: antibiotics can be used for a number of different things
Speaker 1: to treat something, but not necessarily cure something. When did
Speaker 1: we get out of the cure business, or get out
Speaker 1: of the desire to cure business and into let's just
Speaker 1: keep this patient on an endless stream of pharmaceuticals for
Speaker 1: the rest of his or her life life.
Speaker 6: And that's what that's been the case for the last
Speaker 6: thirty or forty years.
Speaker 3: But I want to kind of go back up a
Speaker 3: level to two things.
Speaker 6: First of all, you and I have talked about the
Speaker 6: infinite elasticity of capitalism, which is one of the things
Speaker 6: that attracts us to this create nation of ours. Well,
Speaker 6: the infinite elasticity of capitalism means that we're going to
Speaker 6: find more and more stuff to buy and sell, and
Speaker 6: that includes drugs. And so drugs are now going to
Speaker 6: smaller and smaller affected people in the marketplace and saying, hey,
Speaker 6: you need to get our drugs or else.
Speaker 3: This bad thing is going to happen.
Speaker 6: So there's fear, uncertainty, and doubt advertised every single night
Speaker 6: on every TV show available. Then you get to the
Speaker 6: next issue, which is we really shouldn't be curing diseases
Speaker 6: when we have an opportunity to prevent them altogether, and
Speaker 6: we really are out of the prevention business, and we
Speaker 6: really need to get back in the prevention business and
Speaker 6: engage our nation's people into the right kinds of activities
Speaker 6: and foregoing the wrong kinds of activities so.
Speaker 3: We can be healthier for longer.
Speaker 6: If you go back to the fond memories of COVID
Speaker 6: link link nudge, nudge, then you'll recall that we had
Speaker 6: over seventy eight percent of the people who actually died
Speaker 6: from COVID allegedly had co morbidities, and most of them
Speaker 6: were seventy eight percent were obese. So let's talk about
Speaker 6: heart disease, let's talk about obesity, and let's attack those
Speaker 6: issues and see what we can need.
Speaker 3: To prevent them altogether.
Speaker 6: Curing them is hard once they've gotten once they've manifested
Speaker 6: in your system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the whole thing about preventing illnesses
Speaker 1: goes back to culture. You mentioned lifestyle. I think it's
Speaker 1: much difficult. This is just me, and anecdotally, maybe you
Speaker 1: feel differently. I think it's much more difficult to change
Speaker 1: a culture than it is to treat a problem that's
Speaker 1: causing that culture. It seems to me, if you want
Speaker 1: to move a human being from point A to point
Speaker 1: e B, that's a hell of a lot more difficult
Speaker 1: than just giving human being something that makes point A
Speaker 1: a little more tolerable. I think it's just the way
Speaker 1: the human DNA is, don't you.
Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely, And the problem is you have to an
Speaker 6: inertia issue that you have to deal with. But in
Speaker 6: the healthcare world, we have with something else that's problematic,
Speaker 6: which is getting the person on the other end, meaning
Speaker 6: the patient, to actually care enough to go undertake the
Speaker 6: corrective actions, whether it's taking a medicine or changing their diet,
Speaker 6: or going out and getting some exercise, whatever it is.
Speaker 6: Getting them to engage in their own healthcare is a really,
Speaker 6: really significant challenge. I have friends who are chief medical
Speaker 6: officers for companies, and even if there's an economic benefit,
Speaker 6: it's manifested in their insurance programs, their benefits, they still
Speaker 6: are very, very recalctrant in terms of engaging the kinds
Speaker 6: of behaviors that are necessary to.
Speaker 3: Change the culture of one in that instance.
Speaker 6: So you can imagine if it's hard to change the
Speaker 6: culture of one, meaning one individual patient, imagine how difficult
Speaker 6: it is it's going to be to change the culture
Speaker 6: of three hundred and thirty million.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know and again you know, and
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before. Really, when you get into
Speaker 1: the giant discussion about this, hey, you need to take
Speaker 1: our drug. As you mentioned, you watch I mean you
Speaker 1: watch cable television news any night and it's all the
Speaker 1: same thing. You don't take this drug, bad things are
Speaker 1: going to happen. To use your words, where are the
Speaker 1: doctors and all this, Why shouldn't the doctor come in
Speaker 1: and say, wait a minute, don't believe everything you see
Speaker 1: on TV.
Speaker 6: Well, doctors are complicit. I mean that's how they make
Speaker 6: their money. They get two ways of First of all,
Speaker 6: as a patient when you go in to see the doctor,
Speaker 6: then you get paid.
Speaker 7: For the visit, the doctor get paid for the visit.
Speaker 6: And then secondly, oftentimes the case the doctor will get
Speaker 6: paid for prescribing the meds.
Speaker 3: I mean, I go back to the COVID example.
Speaker 6: I know of one specific insurance company where I saw
Speaker 6: the document myself where they were saying, if you the
Speaker 6: primary care position, get seventy five percent of your panel,
Speaker 6: meaning the patients you serve vaccinated, you will give you
Speaker 6: a one hundred and seventy five dollars per patient bonus.
Speaker 1: That's privory. Yeah, the first degree.
Speaker 6: Well then it gets worse because the average.
Speaker 3: Panel size for a primary care potion is three thousand patients.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, holy cow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we do the math.
Speaker 6: Three thousand times one hundred and twenty five is more
Speaker 6: than just mere lunch money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it isn't it's not lunch money. It's criminal. But again,
Speaker 1: this is the never ending cycle of healthcare in this country.
Speaker 1: Todd Furness, our guests, and we're talking about this report
Speaker 1: that just backs up what RFK Junior has been saying
Speaker 1: all along that we're just as a society, we're spending
Speaker 1: all this money on healthcare and we're just basically one
Speaker 1: of the sickest societies in the world. Look, I have
Speaker 1: to ask you this because Donald Trump in office, I mean,
Speaker 1: my goodness, it's it's going on three weeks and his
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just moving at break neck speed. And
Speaker 1: these tariffs that he's been threatening against Mexico and against
Speaker 1: Canada that both both have backed off of, He's got
Speaker 1: another one he's thrown on China. Now we'll see. He
Speaker 1: wants to impose a ten percent tariff on China imports.
Speaker 1: Chinese imports. The fact of the matter is we get
Speaker 1: a lot of our pharmaceuticals from China. The fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is APIs those active pharmaceutical ingredients. In the
Speaker 1: last ten years, it's just gone up, I mean increasingly
Speaker 1: for what we rely on China for. So I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering if indeed he goes ahead and imposes the tariff
Speaker 1: and China comes back and imposes the terrif on us,
Speaker 1: it would lead one to think that the price of
Speaker 1: drugs are going to go up. Do you anticipate the
Speaker 1: price of drugs going up?
Speaker 3: Ken Brew?
Speaker 6: This is why I love talking to you, because you're
Speaker 6: the first guy that's talked about this, and I've it's
Speaker 6: been burning a hole in my head since I heard
Speaker 6: him talking.
Speaker 3: Per first mentioned it, and you're you're generally.
Speaker 6: The first radio host for journalists that I've heard speak
Speaker 6: about this issue. And it's critical because here's the other thing,
Speaker 6: the meagage that we don't that we don't get from China,
Speaker 6: and guess where we get them? Yeah, and guess who
Speaker 6: supplies the APIs to India China. So it's worse than
Speaker 6: most people can even gain to believe, so we do
Speaker 6: have a problem. They're there, and I worry that if
Speaker 6: if we really got got sideways with China, as we
Speaker 6: saw it again with some of the COVID issues, then
Speaker 6: they might cut off our supply chain for those APIs
Speaker 6: and then we'd have a real world hurt coming on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. One of the you know again,
Speaker 1: you know the thing about the president is he likes
Speaker 1: to make deals and he makes threats. The other side
Speaker 1: makes threats, and all of a sudden you come to
Speaker 1: a solution, and it might be one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why he's I mean, all these places he's interested in
Speaker 1: buying Canada, Greenland and places like that that are in
Speaker 1: Greenland's case, where you're rich in minerals. We'll see exactly
Speaker 1: whether or not that comes to pass. But I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about that because Number one, if these if
Speaker 1: these ingredients are coming from China, and we know that
Speaker 1: the major export of fentanyl comes from China. I'm just wondering,
Speaker 1: if the Chinese government really wanted to screw us, they
Speaker 1: could do a hell of a job just by screwing
Speaker 1: what these ingredients they send to us, couldn't.
Speaker 6: They absolutely, and I think that's why this is characterized
Speaker 6: in many venues as a national security issue, because we
Speaker 6: need to think about it differently. We need to have
Speaker 6: markets where you have choice and you can go from
Speaker 6: point A to point B or supplier ATA supplier B
Speaker 6: without fear that if you turn one off that the
Speaker 6: entire supply will be turned off.
Speaker 3: And that's what we have right now in my business.
Speaker 6: We call this in the private equity business, we call
Speaker 6: this a concentration risk. We have a concentration of supply
Speaker 6: coming out of China and pharmaceuticals right now, and so
Speaker 6: we got to be worried about that, and we have
Speaker 6: a you know, the concentration is worse because it's not
Speaker 6: only China but also to India. So the challenge is
Speaker 6: how do we change that concentration risk and have that
Speaker 6: more distributed so that we can manage that better. And
Speaker 6: that's good for everybody because it keeps prices down, that
Speaker 6: keeps supplies up, and it increased competition in the marketplace,
Speaker 6: all the good stuff that we come to know and
Speaker 6: love here in the United States. But if we don't
Speaker 6: go focus on that, then we're going to have really
Speaker 6: really significant issues.
Speaker 1: Look at the turf you and I just covered in
Speaker 1: the last eleven minutes. I mean, we have a country
Speaker 1: that's dependent on pharmaceuticals because we have a country that
Speaker 1: has a medical system that wants to get you in
Speaker 1: the chronic illness business as opposed to the cure business.
Speaker 1: We don't have anybody that's really doing preventive medicine in
Speaker 1: this country and now we're dependent on China and India
Speaker 1: for us to stay in the chronic illness business. To me,
Speaker 1: it's just it's insanity to the to the first degree.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Todd, every one of these guys
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. I've said this before, I'll see
Speaker 1: it again. Google everybody you've elected to the Senate and
Speaker 1: to the House and see who's taken what kind of
Speaker 1: money from big farm, and then you'll have an idea
Speaker 1: of why it hasn't been solved here and why we've
Speaker 1: been so dependent on all of this for the last
Speaker 1: forty to fifty years. I'm all, my sorry about that.
Speaker 1: You're the guest I shouldn't be preaching, and you need
Speaker 1: to write another book for crying out loud. The sixty
Speaker 1: percent solution rethinking healthcare is right now available on Amazon,
Speaker 1: where all fine books are sold. Our guest, Todd front
Speaker 1: is Todd. You stay well and you and I visit
Speaker 1: down the road.
Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks so much for your time today. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You bet, you bet. Think about that again. Four percent.
Speaker 1: We are four percent of the world's population. We produce
Speaker 1: seventy five percent of pharmaceutical profits, and we are sixtieth
Speaker 1: sixtieth out of every nation in life expectancy because ninety
Speaker 1: five percent of medical spending today is on chronic conditions
Speaker 1: as opposed to try and prevent these conditions. And that's why, again,
Speaker 1: just going about business lays a fair Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: keep going out there to Washington. You kept just doing
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Here's some more money. Yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: are doing a great job. That's the problem. And if
Speaker 1: that gets anywhere near fixed between now and twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 1: me and you and everybody else will be a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot better. Why that can't get through of
Speaker 1: the ideologues in this country, and in particular in Washington,
Speaker 1: Why that isn't evident? If you can convince me, have
Speaker 1: at it. One twenty six News Radio seven hundred w WELW.
Speaker 8: That's a great honor.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, no matter who the president is,
Speaker 2: I know I'm excited because, uh, it's the biggest game
Speaker 2: of my life, you know.
Speaker 1: And having the president there, I know, it's the best
Speaker 1: country in the world, so I would be very cool.
Speaker 5: He Hello, Wyet, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Say do you believe that there's some people that are
Speaker 1: upset that Travis Kelsey is excited about the president coming
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl?
Speaker 9: Nothing surprises me anymore? Ken Brew about what's going on?
Speaker 9: Guy used to have on my show a lot.
Speaker 1: Mike Freeman, who now writes for USA Today, wrote a
Speaker 1: column a couple of days ago saying that that basically
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was shatatizing all over the Super Bowl. And
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this thing thinking, first of all, after
Speaker 1: they show him once or twice, nobody's gonna give a
Speaker 1: rats rear end about him. They're gonna be watching the game.
Speaker 9: He's gonna he's gonna be sitting with the what the
Speaker 9: Saints owner invited him? So, I mean, you know, president
Speaker 9: goes to the super Bowl, he goes to the World Series.
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, I mean, what what's you know?
Speaker 9: It's it's because it's him, That's the thing.
Speaker 1: That's it. And you know there's so much of this
Speaker 1: Trump drain syndrome that's going on out there by the
Speaker 1: Democrats and they populate, make no mistake about it. They
Speaker 1: might have found their new haven in this blue Sky thing,
Speaker 1: but they're still lurking around there on X ready to
Speaker 1: pounce on anybody that says anything that's outside of their narrative.
Speaker 1: And you know what, if I'm trying, if I'm Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: you know what I tell him to do is stick
Speaker 1: it somewhere where proctologists can't even find it, saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably would, you know, he probably would, yeah, knowing
Speaker 1: m you know, everybody's all up and you know this
Speaker 1: whole country is divided right now, Sick. And then you
Speaker 1: got Taylor Swift. You know, I don't particularly care for
Speaker 1: her music, but if she wants to date the guy,
Speaker 1: if she's in love with the guy, who the hell cares?
Speaker 1: If she goes to a game and watch him play, right,
Speaker 1: I agree? Thank you, Sick. I need I need just
Speaker 1: some some affirmation here, that's all. Some loves what ken.
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Speaker 9: Restaurant and Bar, the world's greatest fried chicken, Will ken Brew.
Speaker 8: It's clucking good, Ron Junior, Ron Larkin.
Speaker 9: Junior, the bringing the food sixty five years on the
Speaker 9: good old West Side, the buffet on Friday and Saturday,
Speaker 9: thirty eight to fifty three Race Road.
Speaker 1: I ate so much of that today. I got heaps
Speaker 1: coming out of my mouth when I burp.
Speaker 9: Bengals up there, brought to you by good Spirits, Winding
Speaker 9: Tobacco and Party Town Bengals. Joe Burrow today making the
Speaker 9: rounds of the Super Bowl talking contracts ken Brew about
Speaker 9: Chase Higgins and mister Hendrickson Well Bengals.
Speaker 1: Hey, he's the Bengals general manager.
Speaker 9: Oh so far's He's been on more TV today that
Speaker 9: I think Trump has been in two weeks.
Speaker 1: What do you think happens if they don't sign TVs? Now?
Speaker 1: What is that going to do? With Joe Burrow?
Speaker 8: Not happy?
Speaker 1: See? And that's the problem here You've got Mike Brown,
Speaker 1: He's sitting in the corner office up there, and I
Speaker 1: know Mike. I like Mike. But let's just say Mike
Speaker 1: wants to know where the money goes. Mike would be
Speaker 1: a good doze guy. He would be a great doze
Speaker 1: guy in Washington, DC. And you know, and then then
Speaker 1: you got you know, the fan base, and all they
Speaker 1: want to do is see this team win a championship.
Speaker 1: You half this town is fearing that they're going to
Speaker 1: be dead by the time they win a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and the other half are figuring, well, they're never going
Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl, so that's what they want.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, you got to pay other players, and so
Speaker 1: you got your quarterback out there campaign and it has
Speaker 1: to make let's just say, for some uncomfortable time inside
Speaker 1: what is it pay corps or pay now?
Speaker 9: I think it's still pay corps. Totally switch it. Who
Speaker 9: knows inside stadium, but they have to, you know, I mean,
Speaker 9: I mean, if it's not going to be good, if
Speaker 9: Joe Burrow's not happy.
Speaker 1: Well if he's not, he's like Mama, you're not happy.
Speaker 1: Nobody's happy.
Speaker 9: Pro Football Hall of Fame class at twenty twenty five
Speaker 9: is going to be announced tonight in the NFL Honors
Speaker 9: Show in New Orleans. Big Willie Anderson and Louke Keikley
Speaker 9: are on that finals list.
Speaker 1: Kinkley's getting in, Oh Willie, I hope there's a couple
Speaker 1: of there's one or two other linemen there that it
Speaker 1: makes me a little skittish. Yep, but Willy ought to
Speaker 1: be in there.
Speaker 9: But I think Kinkley gets in. Super Bowl Up. They
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Speaker 1: My goodness.
Speaker 9: College football Buckeye's coach Ryan Day, who was what about
Speaker 9: two months ago, was wanting to get They were going.
Speaker 8: To run him out of town.
Speaker 1: He couldn't get in Columbus, he couldn't get a job
Speaker 1: at Central Michigan University.
Speaker 9: Thank you, He gets a He gets a new seven
Speaker 9: year contract at Ohio State, now valued a twelve and
Speaker 9: a half million per year back, second highest paid college
Speaker 9: coach behind George's Kirby Smart.
Speaker 1: Pay. The payout is probably like thirty five dollars. I
Speaker 1: gotta believe there's a way that they're gonna nuke that
Speaker 1: thing at some point. If let's just say he doesn't
Speaker 1: start missig, he doesn't start beating Michigan.
Speaker 8: That's for sure.
Speaker 9: Let's see Red's pitchers and catchers report the spring training
Speaker 9: camp on Monday, ken Brew, don't be late. I'll be
Speaker 9: there for Tito, Tito Francona. Let's see. Former Reds outfielder
Speaker 9: Tommy fam has a one year deal with the Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Pirates, bringing his fantasy baseball team with him too, for
Speaker 1: a few fights in the outfield.
Speaker 8: I think, I think.
Speaker 3: So that was.
Speaker 9: And then this is weird about this is what I
Speaker 9: don't understand about soccer. FC Cincinnati has loaned Alvarro Barial
Speaker 9: to a Brazilian club today through December of this year,
Speaker 9: but they also signed him to an extension through the
Speaker 9: twenty twenty sixth season in the MLS.
Speaker 1: See now, this is interesting because that just happened inside
Speaker 1: iHeart today, you know, in iHeart and Kenwood, did you
Speaker 1: hear about this?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Well, apparently, and I don't have all the details, but
Speaker 1: apparently Eddie Fingers has been loaned out to an FM
Speaker 1: station in Bowling Green, Kentucky for the next year, and
Speaker 1: then he'll come back and was that right? Wow? I
Speaker 1: heard that too. Yeah, okay, well and then you got
Speaker 1: but Eddie's probably just fell off his couch. But anyway,
Speaker 1: buryal That's what that happens all the time in soccer.
Speaker 1: They want a guy out and then they'll have done
Speaker 1: that before.
Speaker 9: Oh, they've done that before it And I guess uh,
Speaker 9: I guess Acosta has got a beef with the management
Speaker 9: of FC Cincinnati, so he hasn't shown up yet, but
Speaker 9: he looks like he's headed back to Argentina to play.
Speaker 1: You know what today is, seg uh Thursday. It's Rick
Speaker 1: Ashley's birthday.
Speaker 6: Ye.
Speaker 1: Rick Ashley's birthday.
Speaker 8: Yeah, ken Brew rick Roll, guys celebrate today. Is he
Speaker 8: a one hit wonder?
Speaker 1: Oh no, he had, he had, He had several hits,
Speaker 1: all right, he had this Are you familiar with this song?
Speaker 10: So?
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, hit it and some.
Speaker 9: Old Rick Ashley is today. Uh, it's just take a while.
Speaker 9: Sixty five you're close, No, you're close. Okay, he'll be
Speaker 9: sixty next year.
Speaker 8: How about that?
Speaker 1: He is fifty nine years old a day.
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know the whole story behind Rick Rolling. Right, No,
Speaker 1: I don't go ahead, you're mister music. No.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: On the internet, and this was a big thing about
Speaker 1: three or four years ago, maybe longer than that. When
Speaker 1: you would go on YouTube and you would download a video,
Speaker 1: you said, oh, here's it's video, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like ten seconds into it, they'd bring up Rick Ashley
Speaker 1: dancing to Never Gonna Give You Up? Yeah, true thing.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I had Rick Ashley on my show said maybe like
Speaker 1: six years ago, yeah, and I asked about the Rickrolling thing,
Speaker 1: and he says, you know what. I was bothered by
Speaker 1: it at first, but then his daughter told him, hey, dad,
Speaker 1: no big thing. This is what he said.
Speaker 11: Listen, Amelia her name is, and she basically said, you
Speaker 11: do realize it's got nothing to do with you. And
Speaker 11: the way she said it, it was just like the
Speaker 11: penny dropped and it just made me think, she's absolutely right,
Speaker 11: it's got nothing to do It could have been anybody's
Speaker 11: video from the ages. Whoever started it just wanted what
Speaker 11: they perceived as a chief, which I.
Speaker 1: Have to agree with a little bit looking back.
Speaker 2: You know, I just it was a fun thing and
Speaker 2: it could have.
Speaker 1: Been anybody been going on said since two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: this rick rolling thing? Hey, what you know? Hey, get
Speaker 1: it get it on, That's what I say, Get it on.
Speaker 1: That's right on, get it on, right, Well, it is
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 9: Seg that's about it, ken Brew, I got a question
Speaker 9: for I'm glad you asked. The Bearcats won last night,
Speaker 9: Thank goodness.
Speaker 1: Well, my god, what is the comic hootech coming by
Speaker 1: tonight too? Should we look for that?
Speaker 9: Wes Miller Show tonight at eight oh five live for
Speaker 9: the Rige of Montgomery in on More Tonight they play
Speaker 9: BYU Saturday. NKU upset Cleveland State, the Horizon League leader
Speaker 9: last night, so it looks like, you know, we'll see
Speaker 9: what happens.
Speaker 1: I have a passion question for you. If that's can
Speaker 1: I ask you go ahead? So I've never been to
Speaker 1: a Columbus Blue Jackets game. Yes, and I'm going Saturday
Speaker 1: for the first time game on Saturday night. Yes. And
Speaker 1: my daughter for Christmas, knowing that I was the original
Speaker 1: PA announcer for the Cincinnati Stingers all those years ago
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, she got me a custom made jersey.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean this is like one of those
Speaker 1: game jerseys they wear, and they had this, my name
Speaker 1: plate is on the back. And then she, for some reason,
Speaker 1: she got me the number seven of as you well know,
Speaker 1: the original Stinger, Brian Soupy Campbell. Yes, so I have
Speaker 1: the I got this jersey and I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: you know, I may wear that to the Blue Jackets
Speaker 1: game on Saturday night. I think they're playing the New
Speaker 1: York Rangers. Should I Should I wear that? Or do
Speaker 1: you think I might have problems inside that arena with that? Well?
Speaker 9: I think you ought to wear it ken Brew and
Speaker 9: and I guess once people figure out, you'll get mobbed.
Speaker 9: Well it has Brew on the back of it. Well,
Speaker 9: I'm just saying. I mean, you know I'm big in Columbus. Yeah,
Speaker 9: so I mean think you might be sitting next to
Speaker 9: Ryan Day or something. Well it might be, but Brian geesenslaw.
Speaker 1: But do you think I'll be attacked because it's Boston
Speaker 1: Bruin's colors? You know, it's the old All the Stingers
Speaker 1: did was take the Boston Bruins logo off the front
Speaker 1: of it, slap their own on it. It's a great jersey.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to be physically accosted enough. It's
Speaker 1: not like.
Speaker 8: Red, white and blue. It's it's black and yellow.
Speaker 1: It is it's black and yellow with the Stingers logo
Speaker 1: on the front of it.
Speaker 9: Oh well, I don't you know that's a I mean
Speaker 9: I would think that they wouldn't. I don't think anybody
Speaker 9: would mess with you.
Speaker 1: You don't think so.
Speaker 8: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm a little skittish about all this.
Speaker 1: I'm a little skittish. I'm going to Columbus to a
Speaker 1: Blue Jackets game for the first time. I don't want
Speaker 1: to get in there and then people are like like
Speaker 1: throwing things at me, you know, like shoes and whatnot, skates,
Speaker 1: maybe a puck. I don't want that. Okay, But you
Speaker 1: think I'm all right.
Speaker 9: I think you're okay, ken Brew all right, sick, all right,
Speaker 9: I think you're okay.
Speaker 1: I think they worry.
Speaker 9: I think they'll worry about you know, fans being in
Speaker 9: Ranger colors. That's who they're playing.
Speaker 1: Well, see, the Rangers have the same colors as the
Speaker 1: Blue Jackets, you know, they're they're red one.
Speaker 8: I think you'll be I think you'll be okay. And
Speaker 8: Stingers where.
Speaker 1: So I may just I may they may not care
Speaker 1: about me because there'll probably be some Rangers fans there, right,
Speaker 1: I would think so, yes, But then again, the Stingers
Speaker 1: colors are like the Bruins colors, and the Rangers' biggest
Speaker 1: rival is the Bruins. You might have some Durans New
Speaker 1: York fans, and imagine that drains the New York being using.
Speaker 9: Just wear it and if they start giving you, you
Speaker 9: know what, put your coat on, well.
Speaker 1: That's that's true. I could just tuck it in and
Speaker 1: put my uh and zip up my jacket.
Speaker 8: There you go, all right, have fun. I'm gonna have
Speaker 8: Fun'll be part of the fifth line on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: What's the fifth line?
Speaker 8: That's the that's the crowd fifth line?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, I should know? What else do I need
Speaker 1: to know before I go watch them play?
Speaker 9: Big Leo sings the uh national anthem? Big Leo, big Leo.
Speaker 9: Who's the star of that team? I have no idea.
Speaker 9: Zach Rwinsky A couple, yeah, and a couple other couple
Speaker 9: and a couple other players are pretty good now. So
Speaker 9: they got a good They finally got a good coach
Speaker 9: and there a good general manager and they're turning things around.
Speaker 8: Last time I checked.
Speaker 9: There they're the there at the top of the last
Speaker 9: team to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Okay, so wild card Rick Nash doesn't play for them anymore.
Speaker 8: No, he's so he's in the front office off in Columbus. Yeah,
Speaker 8: all stuff by and say hi, okay, there you go, all.
Speaker 1: Right, sego, we need to get out of the Stooge
Speaker 1: Report right now because I have I've got a guy
Speaker 1: talking about Trump wanting to buy the Gaza Strip. We
Speaker 1: got to talk about Trump buying the Gaza Strip and
Speaker 1: wait for that place to look like Las Vegas. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call it the Kaza Vegas. Maggaza Vegas is coming
Speaker 1: to Gaga Vegas, and I got a Trump tire up there.
Speaker 1: And they're gonna have pools. They're gonna have, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have I don't know, Yasir Arafat on the beach, sun
Speaker 1: tanning himself and asking answering any question you might have.
Speaker 9: So ken Brew and honor of a nice day here
Speaker 9: in the tri State, but snow elsewhere, we leave you
Speaker 9: with the immortal words of the Stewed Report.
Speaker 8: Save the platitudes, Bozo. There's work to be done here
Speaker 8: in Gulf or is becketing.
Speaker 1: Hey, oh you could?
Speaker 9: You know, I say that maybe the Wizard of ken
Speaker 9: What'll come up with you Saturday you got an extra ticket?
Speaker 1: Or he might be able to work the crowd at
Speaker 1: the Maga Gaza Strip.
Speaker 9: That's right, I'll take residence in Gaza for a for
Speaker 9: a year. There you go do the show, that's right?
Speaker 9: Is it a ken Wood?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd love you over there, Amen, Seg, I gotta
Speaker 1: go sa on seven hundred WYLW seven hundred WYLW one
Speaker 1: fight the average American in for the great American. Seg.
Speaker 1: We were just talking with Seg about the The NFL
Speaker 1: Awards are tonight. It's at nine and Joe Burrow is
Speaker 1: making the rounds along Radio Road today in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't expect to be MVP or Offensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year simply because
Speaker 1: he said, in his words, basically, your team has to
Speaker 1: win to get that kind of honor. In fact, let
Speaker 1: me give you the exact quote. He said, usually you
Speaker 1: have to have a lot of team's success to be
Speaker 1: considered for some of those awards. That was with an
Speaker 1: interview with Adam Shine is he with CBS Sports. I
Speaker 1: think he is the CBS Sports Radio Network. Anyway, That's
Speaker 1: what he had to say. I think he's off on that.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a comeback player of
Speaker 1: the Year, might be the offensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: although I think that probably would be Jamar Chase in
Speaker 1: front of him. But the Hall of Fame voting is
Speaker 1: also one of great interest, and we're looking for Willie
Speaker 1: Anderson to get in. He would have to be the
Speaker 1: top offensive lineman under consideration. I know Marshall Yanda is
Speaker 1: on that list as well, but there's not another lineman
Speaker 1: really that is more deserving from a statistical standpoint than
Speaker 1: Willy Anderson. Anyway, the odds on him making the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, apparently tonight, apparently is twenty five percent highest
Speaker 1: among all offensive linemen. Antonio Gates is a lock. Luke
Speaker 1: Kinkley' is a lock. The Eli Manning is a lock.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it old pans out. That's at nine
Speaker 1: o'clock tonight. Meanwhile, in Washington, former UC coach Tommy Tubberville
Speaker 1: has introduced a bill. Yes, he introduced it on Wednesday. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: He along with Republican Senator Tim Shee, he introduced the
Speaker 1: Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act to stop the double tax
Speaker 1: on Social Security benefits. Tubleville said seniors worked the majority
Speaker 1: of their adult lives so they can spend their retirement comfortably.
Speaker 1: So no more double tax. From a man who once
Speaker 1: famously said at Knippert Stadium.
Speaker 5: I ll get a job, get it job.
Speaker 1: So if you had a job and you paid into
Speaker 1: Social Security, why go to hell? Which would be double
Speaker 1: tax on it. We'll see how far it gets. It's
Speaker 1: two o'clock. It's time for the news News seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW all right back on the big one two eight
Speaker 1: the average American and for the great American on this Thursday.
Speaker 1: Great to have you with us. I don't say that capriciously,
Speaker 1: because if you were not with us right now, I
Speaker 1: would I would merely be one man sitting in a
Speaker 1: room by himself, babbling incoherently. And why would I have
Speaker 1: to leave home to do that? So I again, you know,
Speaker 1: I listened to our newscasts and this whole thing about
Speaker 1: government buyouts for people. You know, Washington isn't a tissy
Speaker 1: on this right now. Because Donald Trump wants to cut
Speaker 1: the fat out of the federal government, and so he's
Speaker 1: offered these buyouts with a deadline of tonight for employees
Speaker 1: to take it, and so far only I think it's
Speaker 1: two percent, only two percent of the civilian federal workforce
Speaker 1: has taken them up on the offer. Well, now here
Speaker 1: come the unions, the American Federation of Government Employees, the
Speaker 1: National Association of Government Employees, and the American Federation of State,
Speaker 1: County and Municipal Employees, representing about eight hundred thousand there
Speaker 1: Now they have now gone out looking for a judge
Speaker 1: that would take this on. So they went judge shopping basically,
Speaker 1: and they landed in, of all places, stand by for It, Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: and that's where they found the Honorable George A. O'Toole, Junior,
Speaker 1: who was appointed to that particular bench by stand by
Speaker 1: for It Bill Clinton. So that's what goes on in
Speaker 1: these cases. We'll see there's apparently now a Monday deadline
Speaker 1: and there will be arguments on both sides, the government,
Speaker 1: the lawyers representing the federal employees. Number one, if you're
Speaker 1: a federal employee, why would you take a buyout right now?
Speaker 1: Because it's a cake job. You work for the federal government.
Speaker 1: It's a cake job. There's so many protect for you, Okay,
Speaker 1: So Trump's going to cut down the fat, that's what
Speaker 1: he wants to do, and maybe there is some fact
Speaker 1: to be cut. But if you're a valued employee, if
Speaker 1: you're someone who does a meaningful task, why would you worry.
Speaker 1: Apparently only two percent of the population of the workforce
Speaker 1: in the federal government is worried about it, So that's
Speaker 1: number one. Number two. If everybody is so convinced that
Speaker 1: Washington d c Is so efficient with the way it runs,
Speaker 1: why then would there be all of this panic on
Speaker 1: the side of the left. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: Somebody is there's money somewhere being exchanged on this, and
Speaker 1: I think that's what Trump down deep is trying to
Speaker 1: figure out where it's coming from and where it's going.
Speaker 1: But if you're a government employee and you've been on
Speaker 1: the job for any length of time, and you're a
Speaker 1: valued employee and what you do is necessary to run
Speaker 1: this country, then and I don't think you have anything
Speaker 1: to worry about. But if you're not well, then you
Speaker 1: have something to worry about. And quite frankly, if you're
Speaker 1: not you should be asking yourself the same question, why
Speaker 1: am I here? If I'm not someone the government absolutely needs.
Speaker 1: So anyway, this thing is now delayed until Monday. My
Speaker 1: guess is there will be arguments on both sides and
Speaker 1: it'll get kicked up to a higher court. But we'll
Speaker 1: see where it goes. Could even go to the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court might be a possibility. But there just seems to
Speaker 1: be a whole lot of fear in Washington over Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and the left doesn't know how to react. And that's
Speaker 1: why you see those asidine scenes of the left and
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer and Maxine Water is yelling and screaming, We're
Speaker 1: gonna win, win, win, We're not gonna know the dose
Speaker 1: and all that. It's like, if you have nothing to
Speaker 1: be worried about, why are behaving that way? What are
Speaker 1: you hiding? So we'll see Trump is a sli as
Speaker 1: a fox. He's dropping four or five political bombshells a day,
Speaker 1: and the left doesn't know where to go to put
Speaker 1: out these alleged fires like this one. He just casually
Speaker 1: droped with Benjamin Nett, yahoo Prime Minister of Israel in
Speaker 1: the White House two days ago, that you know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna buy Gaza, We're gonna buy the Gaza strip and
Speaker 1: we're gonna try. It's gonna be big. It's gonna be huge,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden people are just are going crazy.
Speaker 1: What do you mean he's gonna buy Gaza? Do we
Speaker 1: want our tax dollars bought over there? Do you want
Speaker 1: to own Gaza? I don't want any of my tax
Speaker 1: dollars going to Gaza or to buy Gaza place is
Speaker 1: a mess. It's going to take trillions of dollars to
Speaker 1: rebuild that. But nevertheless, that's what he wants to do.
Speaker 1: And maybe slies a fox. There's a deal in the
Speaker 1: deal where somebody else comes in and does that work
Speaker 1: for us? I don't know somebody that might have standing
Speaker 1: by to join us live. Doctor Ossif Romerowski is the
Speaker 1: executive director of an organization called the Scholars for Peace
Speaker 1: in the Middle East SPME. He is a Middle East historian,
Speaker 1: holds a PhD in Middle East in Mediterranean Studies from
Speaker 1: King's College that would be in the UK, and has
Speaker 1: published a number of things widely various aspects of the
Speaker 1: Arab Israeli conflict and American's foreign policy in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: And his is a voice I think we need to
Speaker 1: hear on this because I'm not quite convinced just by
Speaker 1: seeing some of the things that he's written that he
Speaker 1: thinks this is a good idea. Nevertheless, let's find out
Speaker 1: for sure. Here he is, doctor Ossif Romerowski. Doctor, how
Speaker 1: are you on this glorious Thursday.
Speaker 7: Wonderful? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here because I think when Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: President of the United States, said a couple of days
Speaker 1: ago that the US would take over Gaza, remove Debried tunnels,
Speaker 1: take out all the explosion, the device that we're there,
Speaker 1: and basically turn it into it seemed like in his
Speaker 1: mind some sort of resort area. Uh. Not only was
Speaker 1: I caught guard by that, but I was looking at
Speaker 1: the expression on the face of Benjamin Netanyahu. Would he
Speaker 1: looks surprised too? Were you surprised when the President said that?
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I think it's very very Trump, you know,
Speaker 10: and fits his personality.
Speaker 7: I think that Trump, in.
Speaker 10: His own mind would like to bring a cessation, you know,
Speaker 10: an end to it, to violence, and bring the end
Speaker 10: of the war and see where it goes. I think
Speaker 10: that he has been you know, we've we've been hearing
Speaker 10: comments over the past week or so about transferring of
Speaker 10: populations One other idea that was floated around was the
Speaker 10: idea of Albania and Tanzania.
Speaker 7: You know, I think that those are all a lot
Speaker 7: of wishful thinking.
Speaker 10: It's not a it's not unheard of that the idea
Speaker 10: that you know, again from a an actual security and
Speaker 10: and a logistical standpoint, Israel cannot afford to live with
Speaker 10: the current situation and Hamas being their neighbors. So they've
Speaker 10: built for twenty years this network of terror tunnels and
Speaker 10: somebody needs to cleanse that in order to rebuild Gozom
Speaker 10: now moving out the population one point eight population out
Speaker 10: of Gozom. It's clearly not simple when you talk about
Speaker 10: the you know, the kind of the conversation regarding the
Speaker 10: communities or the countries that would be amenable to that
Speaker 10: or should be amenable to that. When we talk about
Speaker 10: Jordanians and Egyptians, Gazms are.
Speaker 7: Historically, ideologically, culturally, politically Egyptians.
Speaker 10: But let me remind you and your listeners that when
Speaker 10: under the Body and Administration there was conversation about when
Speaker 10: it came to RAFA about having free having safe zones
Speaker 10: in the Egyptian side. The Egyptians of course bulked at
Speaker 10: all of this, and the Egyptians have been somewhat complicit
Speaker 10: through the tunnel system as far as the oxygen that
Speaker 10: allowed to come into Gaza through the tunnels, the funds
Speaker 10: come outs and whatnot, so to catch twenty two. But
Speaker 10: I think that all of this relates to my mind,
Speaker 10: and I think that this is part of the somewhat
Speaker 10: state craft that Donald Trump puts out there, as far
Speaker 10: as carrots and sticks, as far as trying to shake
Speaker 10: up the narrative, as far as what was traditionally done
Speaker 10: and what can be done in order.
Speaker 7: To start a conversation that is different. I think it
Speaker 7: also signals to the.
Speaker 10: Our world and the our Palestinians in particular that there
Speaker 10: is a new sheriff in town. I'm saying they're going
Speaker 10: to be done differently, but at this point we have
Speaker 10: not seen any details, so where there's a lot of
Speaker 10: guessing at this point, and so what he actually means
Speaker 10: by that.
Speaker 1: Well, not just that area of the world. The world
Speaker 1: seems to be a better place when there is a
Speaker 1: strong United States, and unfortunately over the last four years
Speaker 1: we haven't had that mentioned. The new sheriff in town,
Speaker 1: and I agree with that. I mean, he's not on
Speaker 1: the job three weeks and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: he's talking about something that is absolutely out of the box.
Speaker 1: No one had ever thought about before. And you know,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, the last four years, I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: we did but build some aborted dock that was going
Speaker 1: to lead into the Gaza Strip that, if I'm not mistaken, sunk.
Speaker 1: So the stronger the United States is, the less volatile
Speaker 1: the world is. Would you agree, well, one hundred percent.
Speaker 10: And I think that what we have lost over the
Speaker 10: past four years, and I would actually go back to
Speaker 10: the Obama administration from my vantage point to my way
Speaker 10: of thinking, that we have lost the sense of deterrence.
Speaker 10: There's been a policy of appeasement and attempts through what
Speaker 10: the Obama slags Biden policy makers have come up with
Speaker 10: as far as realignment, those kind of policies have backfired.
Speaker 10: And going back to the current situation, the head of
Speaker 10: the HYDRA is the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Speaker 7: This has been the multi front war with Iran.
Speaker 10: Under the Biden administration, they have been able to release
Speaker 10: sanctions in the tone of one hundred and forty billion dollars.
Speaker 10: And so now that we are re entering once again
Speaker 10: maximum pressure regarding sanctions on Iran and the change in
Speaker 10: the world. There needs to be a re establishment of
Speaker 10: American deterrent and clear red lines. And Israel's war, the
Speaker 10: fact of the matter is also America's war. The enemies
Speaker 10: of Israel's fighting is also American enemy. And so to
Speaker 10: your point, the stronger we are, the stronger we stand
Speaker 10: by our allies, the better we are off in the
Speaker 10: world public states.
Speaker 1: But there were people that live there. They might have
Speaker 1: been the sworn enemy of Israel. But the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is there were people that lived there and
Speaker 1: nobody wanted them. Egypt did not want them. There was
Speaker 1: no country in that region that one of the Palestinians.
Speaker 1: When this became an all out war shortly after October seven,
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, what are those people? Where
Speaker 1: do they go? Because you think they're going to stand
Speaker 1: by Idaly and watch Donald Trump come in with some
Speaker 1: construction company and build a bunch of high rises on
Speaker 1: the Mediterranean Sea.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think that that's going to happen. But
Speaker 7: let's be clear.
Speaker 10: Obviously, the origins of this conflict are been in over
Speaker 10: seven decades and the existence of Arab Palestinian refugees is
Speaker 10: a byproduct of Arab policies that happened, you know, in
Speaker 10: forties forty in the forties, and the argument back then
Speaker 10: during Israel's War of Independence forty eight forty nine was
Speaker 10: and the message that I'm paraphrasing here, they told the
Speaker 10: inhabitants of the area, the Arabs leave once we eradicate
Speaker 10: design identity to their narrative quote, then you could come
Speaker 10: back to your area. When that did not happen, they know,
Speaker 10: this so called refugee probably came about and day by
Speaker 10: design refused, they meaning the Arab world, Jordan and Egypt,
Speaker 10: the Rock Syria to take them in at citizens.
Speaker 7: To keep them in a stateless spasis in orders.
Speaker 10: For them to remind the world and the democratic Western
Speaker 10: world that these so called refugees are a result of
Speaker 10: Israeli in Western aggression. And so that has been a
Speaker 10: calculated narrative but they've created in order to create the
Speaker 10: story that's been going on for seven plus decades. And
Speaker 10: in addition to that, which is more nefarious, you have
Speaker 10: a UN agency known as UNRUM, which has been the
Speaker 10: gate keeper of those very refugees, and they're the ones
Speaker 10: post ten to seven, as we all saw, have been
Speaker 10: complicit with Amas.
Speaker 7: They are come us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you mentioned just a few minutes
Speaker 1: ago Hamas only exists in its form because of Iran.
Speaker 1: I mean, the real head of this whole thing is Iran.
Speaker 1: And Iran has been allowed to run away unfettered over
Speaker 1: the course of the last certainly the last four years,
Speaker 1: but eight of the last twelve years. And I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess the question to someone who is less schooled
Speaker 1: in these kinds of issues than I am, my question
Speaker 1: to you would be, how do these then two people
Speaker 1: exist side by side. We know what it has looked
Speaker 1: like over the last forty years, but it would kind
Speaker 1: of be like the United States bordering Russia. I mean,
Speaker 1: we know what that would be like. This is kind
Speaker 1: of the same way. So let's just say that this
Speaker 1: is nothing more than a way for Donald Trump to
Speaker 1: get everybody on the same page, in the same room
Speaker 1: and say, look, this nonsense is going to stop, and
Speaker 1: it's going to stop. Now, how does it go forward
Speaker 1: with anything that would be something that would be absolutely
Speaker 1: without question acceptable to Israel. Let's not forget was attacked
Speaker 1: on October seventh in twenty twenty three, How do we
Speaker 1: go back to these two countries, if indeed it is
Speaker 1: wherever the Palestinians go and Israel living in some sort
Speaker 1: of closeness in this world, how does it go back
Speaker 1: to that?
Speaker 10: Look, that's the age old question and it's been going
Speaker 10: on for plus seven plus decades. As far as the
Speaker 10: oregon of the you know, the Israeli Palestinian dynamic, the
Speaker 10: difference is that the Arab world has changed, you know,
Speaker 10: as a result of what Trump did in the last administration,
Speaker 10: we've seen normalized ties with Israel and other Arab countries.
Speaker 1: That's all very positive.
Speaker 10: The Israeli Palestinian dynamic is in particular a unique case study.
Speaker 10: And to your actual point, which is you know, very
Speaker 10: well taken, Israel can't afford to live with Hamas. If
Speaker 10: Hamas was the objective of the eradication of Tamas was
Speaker 10: the goal of ten to seven is still the goal,
Speaker 10: and of course releasing the hostages and so inn Islamist
Speaker 10: terrorist organization where Israel lives through a modern day Holocaust,
Speaker 10: and for the past fifteen months, it's unacceptable.
Speaker 7: In a non starter.
Speaker 10: So the number one step really is to disentangled whatever
Speaker 10: one can from the civilian population, such as it is
Speaker 10: from Ramas, and that's step number one. And unless you
Speaker 10: do that, you're here. You're still going to be creating.
Speaker 10: And look if you look at the environment today and
Speaker 10: how the theater of the release of the hosckyges, where
Speaker 10: Hamas feels empowered and they see it as a victory.
Speaker 7: If Hamak comes out of the tunnels and the day
Speaker 7: after tomorrow's scenario and they are alive and well, is
Speaker 7: Eripe has failed and so of we.
Speaker 10: And so the point is that to begin the conversation
Speaker 10: about any of this is also defining the population and
Speaker 10: eradicating from us, you know, devastating lake Israel has done
Speaker 10: with Hazabella.
Speaker 7: And so these are all part of the first challenges.
Speaker 10: And then the bigger question is going to lead to
Speaker 10: You have a very weak, pales stinting author. You have
Speaker 10: an octagenarian leader Mahmouda Bases in his eighties serving you know,
Speaker 10: serving his twentieth year of a four year term. And
Speaker 10: the question is really who's and you know, who are
Speaker 10: actually you dealing with?
Speaker 7: So with Trump.
Speaker 10: Trying to change the calculus of this equation and trying
Speaker 10: to say I'm offering carrots, I'm offering six and you know,
Speaker 10: basically implying that there's going to be money to rebuild
Speaker 10: gods and how it all looks like. There also has
Speaker 10: to be a definition and an understanding of who your
Speaker 10: partners are. To date, Israel has no partner to negotiate with,
Speaker 10: and especially highlighted the fact that i'mas is still over
Speaker 10: the border. So that's step one before anything. Let's you know,
Speaker 10: there has not been really negotiations around any kind of
Speaker 10: negotiating table for years, and let's not forget that to
Speaker 10: get to ten seven, it took Hamas twenty years to
Speaker 10: build that Terrior tunnel infrastructure. So they've been playing the
Speaker 10: long game, funded by the Iranians. And so those are
Speaker 10: all the challenges that we need to tackle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor asofrom A Rescue, our guests, we're talking about
Speaker 1: the Middle East. We're talking about Donald Trump, who wants
Speaker 1: to basically take over the Gaza strip. Doctor Romanowski. Romerowski
Speaker 1: is the executive director of Scholars for Peace in the
Speaker 1: Middle East. You said, you you really hit an interesting point,
Speaker 1: and I think spot on a couple of minutes ago.
Speaker 1: How do you separate the everyday people that lived in Gaza,
Speaker 1: many of which were taken hostage either physically or philosophically
Speaker 1: by Hamas. How do you separate them from Hamas and
Speaker 1: then eradicate Hamas? You know, everybody you said, well, the
Speaker 1: idf net Yahou just should have finished finished it off.
Speaker 1: He was hampered, of course by Biden. Biden wouldn't give
Speaker 1: him what he needed. But how do you how do
Speaker 1: you do that? How do you separate the people that
Speaker 1: are intent in causing terror and destruction in that part
Speaker 1: of the world from the everyday people, many of whom
Speaker 1: just want to walk around and live their lives. How's
Speaker 1: that accomplished?
Speaker 10: So that's the challenge, and that's the question of who
Speaker 10: that entity is going to be to deal with. I mean, look,
Speaker 10: the reason we're able to devastate Hamas, and I would
Speaker 10: say that Gaza is pretty much, you know, you know,
Speaker 10: close to you know, we're on the five yard line
Speaker 10: as far as you know, eighty five percent of Hamas
Speaker 10: being devastated. But that's because of human intel that the
Speaker 10: Israelis have given up, you know, back in two thousand
Speaker 10: and five when they left Gas up to begin with,
Speaker 10: and now they're you know, re establishing you know, again
Speaker 10: intel human intel as well as other kind of cyber
Speaker 10: intelligence and whatnot. You have to deal with the leadership
Speaker 10: and its proxies all around, and then you have to
Speaker 10: deal with the population, and that's going to require a
Speaker 10: significant amount of a you know, going through a series
Speaker 10: of background checks and affiliations and whatnot. Hamas, you know,
Speaker 10: the Hamaths, like many of these system as groups, and
Speaker 10: this is the biggest challenge as an entire charwer of
Speaker 10: will Wing. They do meals on wheels, they do they
Speaker 10: do social services and whatnot, and so from the perspective
Speaker 10: because of Palestinian authority, it's so weak Tamasa's attractiveness to
Speaker 10: Palestinian society and gaza that it's still devoid. And so
Speaker 10: they have a difficult time, you know, disengaging themselves from Hamas,
Speaker 10: who has been taking care of them.
Speaker 7: But Hamas has also been abusing them.
Speaker 10: They've they've been taking their homes away, they've been trying
Speaker 10: they've been taking the foods and services and stealing them
Speaker 10: at highway robbery and selling them back to the Palestinian population.
Speaker 10: So for the population to start trusting any entity that's
Speaker 10: part of the entity that is yet to be created,
Speaker 10: to start creating, you know, a division between Hamas Allegiance
Speaker 10: and Hamas members and other inflummist groups that are part
Speaker 10: of Gazam, and you know, trying to maintain the integrity
Speaker 10: of a civilian population that needs to be re educated
Speaker 10: and you know, and to talk about, you know, what
Speaker 10: are the building blocks of trying to change the narrative
Speaker 10: that they've been taught for years and decades that Israel
Speaker 10: has no right to exist and the Jews are sons
Speaker 10: of pigs and monkeys.
Speaker 7: That entire narrative needs to shift.
Speaker 10: And that's the same narrative that they feel about the
Speaker 10: West at large.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right. This is a cultural thing. It's
Speaker 1: not going to be settled by somebody going and look,
Speaker 1: who knows what comes of what the President said. I
Speaker 1: admire him for thinking outside the box and certainly the
Speaker 1: way he's dealt internationally with Mexico and Canada on tariffs.
Speaker 1: We'll see what he does with China. But I think
Speaker 1: this is something that is going to require a lot
Speaker 1: of time on task because, as you said, this has
Speaker 1: been going on since the late forties. This isn't some
Speaker 1: phenomena that has occurred in the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: doctor Romeo Rawski, How can we find you? What do
Speaker 1: people find you? You sound like you're well versed in
Speaker 1: this and you certainly have been on me all over
Speaker 1: the country and have been published as well. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 10: Stme's website is stme dot org and my website is
Speaker 10: my last name, r O m I r Owsky dot com.
Speaker 10: And that's where I you can see my work and
Speaker 10: the work that we do all over the places.
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure doctors. Stay well, Okay, I tell
Speaker 1: people this that have a lot of good things to say,
Speaker 1: Stay well. We need to hear your voice. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you as little. I appreciate it absolutely. It's complex
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Speaker 6: and I know you know I want to make it happen.
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Speaker 9: It's something you would consider not knowing what the numbers
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Speaker 1: That's the new general manager of the Cincinnati.
Speaker 8: Can't fight laying it on him.
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Speaker 1: Brown sitting in that corner suite at pay Stubb Stadium
Speaker 1: saying what we have here?
Speaker 12: He knows full well that the entire fan base loves
Speaker 12: him way more than they do anybody in the front office.
Speaker 12: And so if he puts puts the pressure on him,
Speaker 12: they're gonna either fold or not well.
Speaker 1: And and he and and he threw Mike g into that.
Speaker 1: He threw Gaseki into that too, So it's you know
Speaker 1: what he's it's they They don't have to negotiate with
Speaker 1: anybody except Burrow. Where's your posse? How much did they want?
Speaker 1: And then we'll figure out how to pick a corner.
Speaker 1: You can actually stop somebody.
Speaker 8: Defer, defer, defer. He was on f S one, ESPN
Speaker 8: and I think he was on CNN. He's I mean
Speaker 8: he was then than Trump is. Yeah, he's like like
Speaker 8: unbelievable and everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're in this town. There could be Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow day, like Bobby Bonia day into twenty one two.
Speaker 9: That's true, He's gonna he's gonna get paid more than
Speaker 9: Ken Griffy. Do you want to if if Red's paid
Speaker 9: him what ten years after the fact at least?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Griffy, they just stopped paying Griffy two years ago.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they're still paying Bania what for?
Speaker 1: Either what?
Speaker 8: Ten years? Or unbelievable?
Speaker 1: Andy Macker? Maybe Mike Brown the first some of his
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Speaker 12: We can take some of that gambling money that Dwine
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Speaker 12: to t Higgins.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever asked Mike Dwane what his favorite online betting
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Speaker 1: it with you, Mikey? That's what I would have asked
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Speaker 8: He would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have Ohio State or Oregon in that
Speaker 1: playoff game? David Well? I like, well, you know, so, Rocky,
Speaker 1: good to see you, Good to see you as well,
Speaker 1: said good to see you as well. Tam Here Ken
Speaker 1: we have it's a big night in the NFL. We
Speaker 1: have the awards ceremony. Joe Burrow has already said he
Speaker 1: doesn't expect any awards tonight, even Comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: But Rocky I think he would run candidate for that,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you He would be a strong candid.
Speaker 8: I think he'd be a strong candidate for that.
Speaker 12: I mean with the injury he had, and then you
Speaker 12: could make more than a strong enough case that he
Speaker 12: could have won m v P this year. Yep, with
Speaker 12: a defense that was a lackluster and some you know,
Speaker 12: run game that wasn't exactly their offensive line that wasn't
Speaker 12: the best in the league, and perform the way he did.
Speaker 8: Give it to him.
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Speaker 1: You know the kitchen it look like seg You know
Speaker 1: how that could come to life.
Speaker 12: If they were Sam Anderson naked in there and making flapjacks.
Speaker 1: Well, now you're talking. What I'm telling you is is
Speaker 1: somebody else cooking in that kitchen besides me? That would
Speaker 1: make my dream kitchen come to long.
Speaker 8: There you go, there you go. Yeah, you'd have a
Speaker 8: big kitchen like the Food Network.
Speaker 1: That's exactly I'd be the Emerald Lagassi of Cincinnati.
Speaker 9: Bam Bam, Super Bowl fifty nine Sunday, Chiefs and Eagles.
Speaker 8: Who you got there? Ken Brew?
Speaker 1: Well, I got I got a craft beer from Little Miami.
Speaker 1: Oh you know?
Speaker 8: Okay, Oh I'm sorry, okay, sorry, No.
Speaker 1: I love the Eagles. I think the Eagles are a
Speaker 1: terrific team. I think they can shorten the possession of
Speaker 1: Kansas City. I don't think and we go, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think they can get I don't think the Eagles
Speaker 1: can get to thirty points. And even though the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have only a clips thirty, I believe once this season.
Speaker 1: I just think the Chiefs are more diverse. They'll figure
Speaker 1: out a way not to let Barkley beat them. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Kansas City. Why, here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Tell me if I'm crazy. I know I am, but
Speaker 1: just tell me if I'm crazy about saying them. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs win the Super Bowl, Travis Kelsey gets down on
Speaker 1: one knee in the field with a ring and ask
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift to marry him, and she says, no, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm predicted. On Sunday, the world will end. And
Speaker 1: he's got to say, no, what do you I'm not
Speaker 1: marrying you? He what too much? Yeah?
Speaker 8: That where she tells him to quit. Yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 8: I'll marry you.
Speaker 12: But you're right, you must give up this silly game
Speaker 12: of football and.
Speaker 1: You must fly with me on my jed to the
Speaker 1: next tour that I have, which will encompass the next
Speaker 1: five years. He could tune her guitar. I bet you
Speaker 1: he could tune her guitar.
Speaker 9: But I'm just hey, hey, hey, hey, we're not in
Speaker 9: safe harbor. Come on, Buck, iys coach Buck Eye, coach
Speaker 9: Ryan Day a new seven year deal today, twelve and
Speaker 9: a half million.
Speaker 8: They become He's.
Speaker 1: Buy out after the next year.
Speaker 9: Second they he becomes the second highest paid college coach
Speaker 9: in America behind Georgia's Kirby Smart twelve.
Speaker 1: And a half a year. Yeah, they must have. They
Speaker 1: must got a lot of nil money up there. They
Speaker 1: just might. They just I'm not saying for him. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying to get him to do that for that money,
Speaker 1: they must have a lot of nil money. We don't know.
Speaker 8: They had twenty two million last year. They lost seven
Speaker 8: million in athletic department this year.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't find it.
Speaker 9: Don't worry somehow Red's pitchers and catchers reports a spring
Speaker 9: training camp on Monday, Ken Brew, don't be late.
Speaker 1: I'm not you know what. Yeah, they're picked to finish
Speaker 1: dead last in the division this year. Did you see that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 8: Bye bout by a bunch of people. I don't think
Speaker 8: that's gonna happen.
Speaker 9: One of them said that the Reds pitching stands come
Speaker 9: runs this year.
Speaker 8: I'll take that. Where's fan duel or whatever, I don't
Speaker 8: know what it is.
Speaker 1: You look though, at the standings right that that that
Speaker 1: they had there. They're all kind of bunched up. Every
Speaker 1: team in that division. I mean, I think there's only
Speaker 1: six or seven games separating Glass from first. So my
Speaker 1: theory is.
Speaker 8: I think it's going to be close all year long.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, then come trade deadline time, we'll
Speaker 1: know how much the Reds front office, in particular their ownership,
Speaker 1: wants to win, because if they're that close by deadline time,
Speaker 1: you got to go out and spend money and get
Speaker 1: a bat. If they don't do that, then that tells
Speaker 1: you a lot too.
Speaker 8: Good point.
Speaker 1: Anybody disagree with me?
Speaker 8: Not at all?
Speaker 12: No, Okay, former red z out feelers big swings can
Speaker 12: let's go.
Speaker 8: Bengals need to make some big swings too.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, trade up in the in the draft, do something,
Speaker 12: do something different.
Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask, Let me ask both of you guys.
Speaker 1: You ever heard this song before this one?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Said you heard the
Speaker 1: song right?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Guess who's playing that guitar. A man
Speaker 1: by the name of William Bruce Rose. They call him
Speaker 1: Axel Rose. And today Axel Rose turned sixty three years old.
Speaker 8: How about that? Wow?
Speaker 9: Last hour it was Rick Ashley and what's sixty sixty
Speaker 9: fifty nine fifty nine? Axel Rose is sixty three. I
Speaker 9: think he's with a C D C now is and
Speaker 9: still playing. Are they another farewell tour?
Speaker 1: And whenever they do that? But he he joined them
Speaker 1: like ten years and will.
Speaker 12: Tell you what when they came to Paul Brown Stadium
Speaker 12: in twenty fifteen, Ken Brew and my dad went to it.
Speaker 12: It was right there in front of the stage. Unbelievable
Speaker 12: show they put on.
Speaker 1: No I know that. Actually, I don't think he's playing this.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing this song that Mike Kid.
Speaker 1: That might come as a shock to the rest of
Speaker 1: the group, but he is their lead singer.
Speaker 12: I was gonna say, I didn't think I was gonna
Speaker 12: I thought it was a trick question. I assumed it
Speaker 12: was Slash that was playing the guitar.
Speaker 1: In fact, it is Slash. The words come out sometime,
Speaker 1: you know, rock and you just can't grab him back.
Speaker 1: But it is. It is Axel Rose birthday today, So
Speaker 1: happy birthday.
Speaker 8: Happy birth from what is like Lafayette, Indiana or something.
Speaker 1: He's from up in that way, yeah, that way of
Speaker 1: the country. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who gets
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame tonight? Seg who you're banking on?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I hoping big Willie does too, but I don't know.
Speaker 9: He is the highest. He has the best odds of
Speaker 9: any lineman going in according to the North Carolina Betting Association.
Speaker 9: We gambling is big in North Carolina. But he's a
Speaker 9: twenty five percent to get in. But I agree with you,
Speaker 9: Rock Kinkley gets in.
Speaker 8: Gets in. I'm blue good for him.
Speaker 1: Let me ask this. I got one other questions I
Speaker 1: want to ask, why are the Democrats so ben out
Speaker 1: of shape about Elon Musk doing it? He dive into
Speaker 1: things like USA Aid and every other you know, spending
Speaker 1: that's just wasteful in this country. What are they trying
Speaker 1: to hide, Rocky? What are they trying to hide the Dems.
Speaker 12: It's amazing because first of all, the crowd will no
Speaker 12: one elected Elon Musk? Yeah, but you TRUPI aligned himself
Speaker 12: with Elon Musk way way back, so you knew you
Speaker 12: were gonna get him. He has no legislative or executive power.
Speaker 12: He is told by the President find the waste is
Speaker 12: using AI. He's got this team can of like twenty
Speaker 12: something year old guys like whiz kids, Okay, that are
Speaker 12: going in using AI finding all this corruption and he's
Speaker 12: bringing to the president's attention.
Speaker 8: How could What is the problem with that.
Speaker 1: When somebody says he wasn't elected. I got two words
Speaker 1: for him, Tony Fauci, who turned this country upside down
Speaker 1: and halfway sideways? And what do we get out of it? Bengo.
Speaker 1: So you don't give me that he wasn't elected. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're scared. They're trying to. They're trying to they're
Speaker 1: scared of something coming out. There really are a lot
Speaker 1: of them. You look at somebody told me Chuck Schumer's
Speaker 1: worth eighty one million dollars. It's a guy that got
Speaker 1: his law degree in nineteen seventy five. I don't think
Speaker 1: he ever worked in the private sector.
Speaker 12: Now, that's why I think they're scared, and they're trying
Speaker 12: to put a stop to it because I know they're
Speaker 12: on the.
Speaker 9: Nancy Melos's husband and that it's like all these these
Speaker 9: stock deals and stuff.
Speaker 1: That dude might as well have the New York Stock
Speaker 1: Exchange as his legal address.
Speaker 12: What if Trump balances the budget solely on finding ways,
Speaker 12: will that be the greatest accomplishment in the history of
Speaker 12: the presidency.
Speaker 8: It may happen.
Speaker 1: Tariffs and then you got you got our buddy Tommy
Speaker 1: Tubberville today introducing a piece of legislation that says, no
Speaker 1: tax on social Security benefits. You're going to get double
Speaker 1: taxed right now. You're getting double tax no tax on
Speaker 1: social security benefits, which I said just a little while ago.
Speaker 1: For a guy that said go to hell get a job,
Speaker 1: that's really a growth point for it.
Speaker 12: Yes, he's showing growth, he's showing gross yeh.
Speaker 1: Because I got Eddie and Rock you're coming up at
Speaker 1: three oh five. I realize all I am is is
Speaker 1: a bridge, a conduit. I'm just somebody that can get
Speaker 1: us from one part of the broadcast in or the
Speaker 1: other without anybody getting hit by a boat. Just wondering
Speaker 1: what's coming up Rock at three oh five you and
Speaker 1: your aging side.
Speaker 12: Well, he is still on his cruise with one dev Haas. Yes,
Speaker 12: he went to Antarctics, one of those nude cruises in
Speaker 12: the Antarctic.
Speaker 8: Guess is that right?
Speaker 12: Clothing not completely optional, it's actually frowned upon.
Speaker 1: Wow, cover those appenditures up. You don't want to get
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 12: But so so he's Jason Williams and I we will
Speaker 12: be coming right.
Speaker 8: Out King of the Inquiry. Baby, start with a little
Speaker 8: stadium discussion.
Speaker 12: He had a great article today on a good idea
Speaker 12: I think in terms of trying to figure out this
Speaker 12: whole stadium. Who's going to pay for a situation? Bring
Speaker 12: in some outside people. Yeah yeah, just keep taxing you.
Speaker 1: By the way, despite the good ideas, the people that
Speaker 1: will pay for that will be the good denizens of
Speaker 1: Hamelin County.
Speaker 12: I got a good idea. Bring Elon Musk and the
Speaker 12: team of whiz kids down. You go find all the corruption,
Speaker 12: all the waste will spend in Hamil County, and you'll
Speaker 12: pay for the stadium with it deep.
Speaker 1: Into Hamlin County. Bring the boys in, let's go. Well say,
Speaker 1: we should probably go because we're still in the way
Speaker 1: of greatness here.
Speaker 8: That's true ken Brew.
Speaker 9: In honor of a nice day here in the tri State,
Speaker 9: we leave you with the immortal words of the Stood Report.
Speaker 8: Hey, thanks for having me on, guys. I've checked the
Speaker 8: deals in ratings, and it's about time you had me
Speaker 8: back instead of the battle out mouse you've had on
Speaker 8: the past couple of weeks both.
Speaker 1: So have me back always little.
Speaker 9: More, because the people who love the Wizard, you know
Speaker 9: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'll see you, guys, later.
Speaker 8: Then when Tom Gamble and what does get?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the opening act in the Elon Lounge
Speaker 1: at the Trump Plaza Tower on the Mega Gaza Strip.
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Speaker 1: You boys stay, We have a sphere there too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got to get out of here. It's the Early
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