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Speaker 1: Fall break for a lot of people, right.
Speaker 5: I know a lot of schools here in the area
Speaker 5: are out for fall break, meaning a lot of adults
Speaker 5: took vacation, you know, maybe a little trip somewhere. We
Speaker 5: didn't have fall break whenever I was a kid, And
Speaker 5: I don't mean like we didn't like I'm not bringing
Speaker 5: that up to say that we were you know, we
Speaker 5: weren't as fortunate as kids today, because I mean that
Speaker 5: is that is true. But when I was like, it
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Speaker 5: But I know so many people that are traveling this week,
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm a little envious. I mean, I
Speaker 5: don't really know where I would go. But you know,
Speaker 5: I'm at a point as a Louisville fan to where
Speaker 5: like I'm not really you know, I'm kind of checked
Speaker 5: out right now, not you know, to where I'm not
Speaker 5: going to watch Louisville.
Speaker 1: It's my job.
Speaker 5: We got to talk about it, and we will today.
Speaker 5: But like, Saturday was such a wild day for college
Speaker 5: football and it was still enjoyable, but like it would
Speaker 5: have been better knowing like that your you know that
Speaker 5: your team was able to win, and to see where
Speaker 5: Louisville is right now really really disappointing. So again, happy Monday, everybody.
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Speaker 1: That sucked on Saturday.
Speaker 5: And I'm more bummed now than I was during the
Speaker 5: postgame show, which is pretty rare. Like usually I've had
Speaker 5: time to reflect, I get it. I mean, usually when
Speaker 5: I start the postgame show, it's such a raw and
Speaker 5: immediate reaction that you know, throughout the show I kind
Speaker 5: of talked through it, and once it ends, you know,
Speaker 5: the result is still the same. But by that point
Speaker 5: I've usually I've usually found a way to process it myself.
Speaker 5: But the last two weeks, I mean, it's just so
Speaker 5: frustrating to see that this team's just not very good
Speaker 5: at this point in the season, and it's just frustrating
Speaker 5: and disappointing are the two words that I feel like
Speaker 5: would describe how fans feel. I mean, there's other words
Speaker 5: you could use, obviously, but you know, those two I
Speaker 5: think are most fitting and you know, appropriate for radio.
Speaker 5: And I try on Mondays to have like a little
Speaker 5: bit of of a slightly different version than what we
Speaker 5: did in the postgame show and usually about three o'clock
Speaker 5: on Monday, I've got something, but I'm just more frustrated,
Speaker 5: so we'll talk about it. As mentioned, it is a
Speaker 5: wild weekend. There was a wild weekend in college football.
Speaker 5: I mean the matchups we got not that intriguing, right,
Speaker 5: I mean the only matchup that featured ranked teams was
Speaker 5: Texas A and M in Missouri. That ended up being
Speaker 5: a blowout, one of the worst games of the weekend
Speaker 5: actually because Missouri just got completely hammered. But you know,
Speaker 5: despite no big intriguing matchups, absolutely phenomenal. Really, you know,
Speaker 5: maybe I'm getting caught up in the moment. I'm here
Speaker 5: some recency bias, Like I feel like I'll remember that
Speaker 5: Saturday not like forever, but like what happened on Saturday
Speaker 5: does not happen very often. First of all, Vandy, I mean,
Speaker 5: beating Alabama in any fashion is just insane. But to
Speaker 5: see them do it the way they did, were they
Speaker 5: just I mean, if they played ten times moving forward,
Speaker 5: I don't think Vandy keeps it close in those ten games.
Speaker 5: I mean I kind of feel like I'm not giving
Speaker 5: him credit when I say that. But let's be real
Speaker 5: Alabama is on another planet. But Vandy came out and
Speaker 5: really they were just the better team from start to finish,
Speaker 5: and that's just something you never see. And then of
Speaker 5: course the party in Nashville where they took the goalpost
Speaker 5: from campus and took it all the way down to
Speaker 5: Broadway and I think they threw it in the river
Speaker 5: or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: You never know what's real on the internet, but that
Speaker 5: that was insane. And then Tennessee losing to Arkansas certainly
Speaker 5: a big upset. That's the top five team going down.
Speaker 5: I mentioned Missouri, but like that one really was that
Speaker 5: big of a surprise, Like Missouri might have been like
Speaker 5: the most fraudulent top ten team ever, but still, you know,
Speaker 5: they were ranked number nine playing A and M who's
Speaker 5: ranked twenty fifth, and A and M hammers from forty
Speaker 5: one to ten. Minnesota pulls off a big upset knocking
Speaker 5: off usc USC of course ranked number eleven, and then
Speaker 5: Michigan they go down to Washington in the National Championship
Speaker 5: Game rematch.
Speaker 1: So you've got.
Speaker 5: Five teams in the top eleven that lost four of
Speaker 5: them against unranked teams, and Missouri A and M was
Speaker 5: just right in the top twenty five at twenty five,
Speaker 5: and then Miami should have lost. I mean, cam Ward
Speaker 5: was special and he's a hell of a player, and
Speaker 5: Miami's really good, but they have at least shown us
Speaker 5: that they are vulnerable, and you could make the case
Speaker 5: that like maybe some calls. In fact, I don't really
Speaker 5: think there's a maybe to it now.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think there are questionable calls that went
Speaker 5: in their face. I think that's the best way to
Speaker 5: describe it. Like I'm not saying they got lucky, but
Speaker 5: then again, maybe they are lucky. Maybe we can say
Speaker 5: they're fortunate because there are there's two straight games here
Speaker 5: where the referees are reviewing something in what is, you know,
Speaker 5: a judgment call, and the judgment was in Miami's favor.
Speaker 5: It could have easily not been in their favor, and
Speaker 5: they'd be coming off of two straight losses. So a
Speaker 5: wild weekend of college football, no doubt. And again I
Speaker 5: feel like I would have enjoyed it a little bit
Speaker 5: more had Louisville not lost SMU at home in another
Speaker 5: very disappointing game where they just kind of show us
Speaker 5: who they are, right, A lot of ball left things
Speaker 5: can get better, but we got to evaluate things for
Speaker 5: what they are right now. And this is not a
Speaker 5: very good football team. And we'll get into it in
Speaker 5: just a second, but I do kind of want to
Speaker 5: set this show up as best I can before we
Speaker 5: just dive in, because I'm just going to start, you know, ranting,
Speaker 5: and well I'm going to try not to just make
Speaker 5: it into a three hour bitching session. But just give
Speaker 5: me a second. I'll get there, because I do. There's
Speaker 5: a couple of things I really want to clarify as
Speaker 5: far as you know where I'm at now. Again, you
Speaker 5: can feel however you want to feel. You can be
Speaker 5: overly optimistic, you can be overly pessimistic. You do you
Speaker 5: be a fan however you want to be a fan.
Speaker 5: But I'll at least tell you how I feel coming
Speaker 5: up here in just a minute. But in the NFL yesterday,
Speaker 5: I was hoping that my Colts could give me a
Speaker 5: nice little pick me up. Right, my cards let me
Speaker 5: down Saturday. Maybe the Colts will come through and move
Speaker 5: to three and two on the year.
Speaker 1: What do they do know?
Speaker 5: They give the Jacksonville Jaguars their first win of the season,
Speaker 5: and just you know, very very unserious franchise. My Indianapolis
Speaker 5: Colts embarrassing watching Lamar Jackson do Lamar Jackson things that helped,
Speaker 5: and you know they could have easily lost.
Speaker 3: We know that.
Speaker 5: But right now, five games in and there's again a
Speaker 5: lot of football to be played. But Lamar's actually, we'll
Speaker 5: get into some of these numbers later, like he's actually
Speaker 5: at five games in putting up better numbers, in fact,
Speaker 5: substantially better numbers than he did last year. Five games in,
Speaker 5: and it sounds silly to say it on October the seventh,
Speaker 5: but like him winning a third MVP would not be
Speaker 5: a shock at all. Again, they're going to have to
Speaker 5: keep winning and I think they will, and he's gonna
Speaker 5: have to keep playing well. And I certainly don't see
Speaker 5: that changing at all. But right now in the NFL,
Speaker 5: like maybe we get some separation in the next few weeks,
Speaker 5: but there's so many two in three or three and two.
Speaker 1: Teams right now.
Speaker 5: You got the occasional undefeateds, which is the Chiefs and
Speaker 5: the Vikings.
Speaker 4: You got.
Speaker 1: One and four.
Speaker 5: I think now, of course the Jags are one and four.
Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody's winless, are they? I think
Speaker 5: everybody in the league has won at least one game
Speaker 5: at this point. Yeah, from what I can tell, unless
Speaker 5: there's somebody on a buy that hasn't won, But I
Speaker 5: don't know. I just it's been the same thing each week.
Speaker 5: Like you just haven't really seen a whole lot of
Speaker 5: separation from like the top tier of the league. I
Speaker 5: think we can still say that the Chiefs are deserving
Speaker 5: to be up there. The Vikings are still awesome. They've
Speaker 5: been great, and there's other teams that, like I feel
Speaker 5: like are pretty good, like the Ravens, but you know,
Speaker 5: they're three and two and could have easily lost yesterday.
Speaker 5: They were very fortunate that that field goal was missed
Speaker 5: by the Bengals. All Right, some other things we'll get into.
Speaker 5: Louisville Live was a lot of fun on Friday. Not
Speaker 5: really sure what we can take from that as far
Speaker 5: as you know, analysis or you know, predictions on how
Speaker 5: good the team's gonna be or anything like that, but
Speaker 5: that's not really what that event is for. But actually
Speaker 5: thought it being at the Yump Center, the way they
Speaker 5: set it up was awesome. The atmosphere was great, and
Speaker 5: I'm sure a lot of Louisville fans that were there
Speaker 5: were paying close attention to who was coming out and
Speaker 5: the names that they were being that were being announced,
Speaker 5: because it's a brand new team. But I do have
Speaker 5: a couple of takeaways that I'll get to a little
Speaker 5: bit later on when it comes to that. So yeah,
Speaker 5: and then, you know, I don't. This is probably not
Speaker 5: something we're going to spend much time discussing, but looks
Speaker 5: like we're once again gonna have like a very scary
Speaker 5: hurricane come through. Not here, of course, but like all
Speaker 5: I'm seeing all over social media is people telling those
Speaker 5: that live in Florida to get in your car and
Speaker 5: just go north. And I don't I highly doubt that's
Speaker 5: like the entire you know, state of Florida. But it
Speaker 5: looks as if this is going to be more severe
Speaker 5: than Helene that just came through. John, do we know
Speaker 5: the name of this new one yet? I'm sure you
Speaker 5: don't know what.
Speaker 1: The m but I can't think of what I've heard
Speaker 1: a couple of times. I've only heard it in passing
Speaker 1: a few moments from Milton. Milton.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hurricane Milton is a Category five and Florida has
Speaker 5: ordered evacuations. As you know, they're trying to prepare for
Speaker 5: that as best they can. You got to think the
Speaker 5: awful situation that took place just you know, within the
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks, with the aftermath from Helene, not
Speaker 5: only the damage but just the flooding. Obviously the Carolinas
Speaker 5: is I mean, it's there are parts of Carolina that,
Speaker 5: like the interstates those people used to drive north and south,
Speaker 5: east and west, whatever their daily commute was in that area,
Speaker 5: some of those interstates won't be drivable, they say, best
Speaker 5: case scenario till the end of twenty twenty five. Like
Speaker 5: that's insane. So with you know, as terrible as that is,
Speaker 5: and that being such a big story nationally, I mean,
Speaker 5: I would hope that those that might try to ride
Speaker 5: out a very dangerous weather situation and just assume that
Speaker 5: it's not going to be as bad as people are indicating.
Speaker 5: The professionals, the meteorologists, hopefully they've learned from you know,
Speaker 5: what's happened recently that like you should never you should
Speaker 5: never risk it. So, yeah, very scary situation. Category five.
Speaker 5: That's that's not good, all right. You know what else
Speaker 5: is not good?
Speaker 1: This Louisville football team.
Speaker 5: They're not very good, and that's not me telling you
Speaker 5: that they're the worst team out there and they, you know,
Speaker 5: might not win another game. Like I'm not going there,
Speaker 5: but I just don't think you can call yourself a
Speaker 5: good football team. And when you're not a good football team,
Speaker 5: what are you average or bad? Like I'm not saying
Speaker 5: they're average or bad. I mean the record says that
Speaker 5: they're average. But when you come out and you don't
Speaker 5: look ready to play, you can't match your opponent's energy
Speaker 5: on the side, I mean like they're just flat, even
Speaker 5: when there was a play where you've got some momentum.
Speaker 5: It just doesn't seem as if things are in sync
Speaker 5: from top to bottom. I mean coaching staff to player
Speaker 5: to everybody. It's like everybody's unsure of themselves. They don't
Speaker 5: really seem to have a lot of confidence. And I'm
Speaker 5: not a body language expert, but I'm just trying to
Speaker 5: make sense as to how they could be this sloppy.
Speaker 5: And it's not just you know, the defense. The defense,
Speaker 5: of course, is your biggest issue, because if they were
Speaker 5: just a little bit better, you'd be in a different situation.
Speaker 5: And I mean, I'm kind of speechless, which isn't good.
Speaker 5: You know, I got a three hour radio show that
Speaker 5: I have to do, and we've got about two hours
Speaker 5: and forty five minutes. But it's just so frustrating to
Speaker 5: be in this position. But my initial takeaway on Saturday,
Speaker 5: I was at my son's game. I watched the first
Speaker 5: first half of his game, and I had had my
Speaker 5: phone out, being I guess a bad dad, because you know,
Speaker 5: I was watching more of what was going on in
Speaker 5: the Louisville game than I was in the four and
Speaker 5: five year old flag football game. But you know, it
Speaker 5: just they came out and it wasn't like they were asleep,
Speaker 5: but they're just flat and SMUs on the road and
Speaker 5: they don't have any home field advantage and they're bouncing
Speaker 5: around on their sideline. They're more into it like that's
Speaker 5: It was a big game for both teams. We all
Speaker 5: knew that, we discussed it quite a bit last week,
Speaker 5: and they were more into the moment, ready to execute.
Speaker 1: Than Louisville. And it wasn't even close. So you know,
Speaker 1: it sucks.
Speaker 5: And what's crazy is that you wouldn't know it unless
Speaker 5: you really wanted to be that guy, the pessimistic, always
Speaker 5: trying to find something negative, And you know, I wasn't
Speaker 5: doing that, and I don't think many were, because who
Speaker 5: would want to be. But you can go back to
Speaker 5: those games against the Bumps they played and they still
Speaker 5: did some silly stuff. They weren't very sharp, but it
Speaker 5: didn't matter because of who they played. It's like there's
Speaker 5: things that you don't pay that much attention to until
Speaker 5: the team gives you a reason to. Meaning like when
Speaker 5: you are sloppy, getting you know, senseless penalties, twelve men
Speaker 5: on the field, the defense, you know, looking around like
Speaker 5: they don't know what's going on. You've got an offensive
Speaker 5: line that you just can't consistently pass protect, and because
Speaker 5: of that, you know, they're picking up costly penalties at times.
Speaker 5: So like whenever that's going on, like you go back
Speaker 5: to you know, you start to overanalyze everything, right, Like
Speaker 5: if Louisville won that game with a you know, late
Speaker 5: score there, Let's say, on that late drive on fourth
Speaker 5: down when they tried their running up the middle once
Speaker 5: again and didn't get it with Cheney, if they'd have
Speaker 5: been able to score a touchdown there and then get
Speaker 5: a stop and then the game's over, they win by
Speaker 5: a score, none of us will probably thinking about the
Speaker 5: start of the game, or like the energy on the sideline,
Speaker 5: I will probably we'd probably still be criticizing the defense
Speaker 5: because it's just head scratching, how confused everybody looks. But
Speaker 5: like when you are struggling and we know this team
Speaker 5: should be better and they're making avoidable mistakes, that's when
Speaker 5: you start to look at the energy on the sideline.
Speaker 5: You start to look at the body language. After the
Speaker 5: defense gives up a big play, they're looking around, confused,
Speaker 5: not really knowing what they were supposed to be doing.
Speaker 5: You know, Ashton Julotti preseason All American, didn't get a
Speaker 5: tackle on Saturday. Was not a factor, really has not
Speaker 5: been a factor for this team this year. And I
Speaker 5: know he's double team and I know that there's some
Speaker 5: obvious you know, like he's getting held at times, and
Speaker 5: he's so good that he's going to be a focal
Speaker 5: point for the opponent to try to take him away.
Speaker 5: But like if you're winning, nobody really like you don't
Speaker 5: really you're you're not thinking about that that much, but
Speaker 5: you're losing, and it's just it's it's been kind of
Speaker 5: a mess. So as frustrated as I am, and I
Speaker 5: know a lot of fans are the same as disappointed
Speaker 5: as we all are. I don't think this needs to
Speaker 5: be said, but given sort of you know, the reaction
Speaker 5: in the last forty eight hours from at least some fans,
Speaker 5: I'll go ahead and say it. Like if you were
Speaker 5: of the mindset that every year it's got to be
Speaker 5: the twelve team college football Playoff for Louisville and if
Speaker 5: they don't get there, then it's going to be a
Speaker 5: disappointing season. With all due respect, that's crazy. And I
Speaker 5: don't like to tell people how to fan. I mean,
Speaker 5: but it's just insanely unrealistic and you're setting yourself up
Speaker 5: to be a pretty miserable fan.
Speaker 1: But you can do what you want.
Speaker 5: Like this year, Louisville was coming off of a good
Speaker 5: season with momentum. It didn't end well, but because of
Speaker 5: you know, the twelve team playoff, the playoff expanding you
Speaker 5: being in a league where you know you can compete
Speaker 5: towards the top. You just did it last year and
Speaker 5: you look around the league and there's really nobody that
Speaker 5: scares you in a major way. You know you could
Speaker 5: lose to a lot of teams. You just lost SMU.
Speaker 5: But like I'm not to the point now where I'm saying, well,
Speaker 5: the season's a wash. I mean, what are you gonna do,
Speaker 5: Like they've already lost a Notre Dame, they slipped up
Speaker 5: at home to SMU. Like, I'm not somebody that's going
Speaker 5: to live in the world where any result that's not
Speaker 5: a twelve not an appearance in the twelve team playoff,
Speaker 5: means that they didn't That they didn't have a good year,
Speaker 5: doesn't mean we have to celebrate like they had a
Speaker 5: great year. But like the playoff expanding is exciting, especially
Speaker 5: given the fact that Louisville appears to be at least
Speaker 5: appeared to be in great shape with Jeff Brom and
Speaker 5: I think they still you know, I'm not gonna act
Speaker 5: like we got to worry about Jeff Brom as the
Speaker 5: head coach here. But my point is, like this year,
Speaker 5: you were talking playoff because you were coming off of
Speaker 5: a ten win season where you just played in the
Speaker 5: ACC championship game of season ago, and had you won
Speaker 5: that game, which you honestly could have a couple of
Speaker 5: plays go different way, you'd have been in the playoff.
Speaker 5: So you know, I like that, we embrace it, but
Speaker 5: like those that just think kind of the season's over
Speaker 5: because of you falling to one in one of the
Speaker 5: acc I don't, you know, I'm just I think we're
Speaker 5: on the same page in regards to like our level
Speaker 5: of disappointment. But for me, it's not because I feel
Speaker 5: like they've completely you know, ruined a great opportunity to
Speaker 5: go to the playoff. I mean, they have kind of,
Speaker 5: but like, I think you can still salvage this and
Speaker 5: have a good season. Doesn't mean you're gonna look back
Speaker 5: and say it was the best year ever. But like
Speaker 5: I to hear so many people acting as if, well,
Speaker 5: now it looks like there's no chance to make the
Speaker 5: playoff unless you need a lot of luck on your side,
Speaker 5: Like you're not wrong, but I just, you know, I
Speaker 5: would advise not having that set as the bar, because again,
Speaker 5: more often than not, you're gonna probably be be disappointed.
Speaker 5: So for me, it's not about being you know, dejected
Speaker 5: because of something, you know, an opportunity that's been ruined.
Speaker 5: It's because this team's nearly halfway through their schedule and
Speaker 5: they're not very good. I mean, if they tighten some
Speaker 5: things up, simplify the defense, stop you know, committing some
Speaker 5: silly penalties, get a better strategy on fourth down, clearly
Speaker 5: like those things. I mean, that would go a long way, right,
Speaker 5: but they haven't done that yet, and it's just so
Speaker 5: frustrating to know that it's doable, and yet they just
Speaker 5: they they can't get right. And Saturday was I mean,
Speaker 5: it was quite clear what this was. It was an
Speaker 5: opportunity for you to get that bad taste out of
Speaker 5: your mouth, prove to yourself that you can go play
Speaker 5: a sharp game and not hurt yourself. And I mean
Speaker 5: it was the way that they were able to score
Speaker 5: the first couple of plays, SMU meeting like it was.
Speaker 5: It was embarrassing. I can't remember two consecutive drives for
Speaker 5: an opposing offense that they just don't know if they
Speaker 5: broke a sweat. But then you fought back and you
Speaker 5: had a chance to take a lead, You drive downfield
Speaker 5: only to you know, once again, a failed fourth down
Speaker 5: at a crucial moment. Just you know, it's screwed you.
Speaker 5: I mean, you screwed yourself, I guess more than anything.
Speaker 5: And then look that's on Bram like for him to
Speaker 5: I don't know if it was being stubborn or if
Speaker 5: he just felt like this is still the best strategy
Speaker 5: when it comes to just picking up a yard to
Speaker 5: extend this drive, but running it up the middle whenever
Speaker 5: they know you only need one yard and if it's there,
Speaker 5: if it's the opponent's push in Louisville's offensive line and
Speaker 5: Donald Chaney, that's not a recipe for you to get
Speaker 5: a first down. And we've seen that, so you know,
Speaker 5: it's just it's it's maddening, and you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: try to make this make sense. I mean, I think
Speaker 5: it makes sense, but it'll probably sound as if I'm
Speaker 5: talking out of both sides of my mouth, and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna try not to make it sound like that. But
Speaker 5: despite all the frustration, there is absolutely, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: a silver lining for the most part, and what that
Speaker 5: is is that you don't really lack talent and ability
Speaker 5: to be a better team than your record shows. I mean,
Speaker 5: you could easily be undefeated right now. To be honest
Speaker 5: with you, I mean it would be worse if we
Speaker 5: would be learning throughout these last few games that Louisville
Speaker 5: just doesn't have the personnel. They don't have the talent,
Speaker 5: like they don't have any good players. Now, you clearly
Speaker 5: have an offensive line that I think is going to
Speaker 5: be a weakness. But even with that, if you don't
Speaker 5: play so sloppy and make boneheaded mistakes and your defense
Speaker 5: was a little more reliable, you would have easily been
Speaker 5: able to overcome the offensive line. So it could be
Speaker 5: worse if these were like blowout games and you get
Speaker 5: humbled and you start to think to yourself, oh, like
Speaker 5: we stink, And maybe you're saying that right now, and
Speaker 5: I get it, you're losing. You've lost the last two games.
Speaker 5: But again, it could be worse if you didn't love
Speaker 5: what you saw with Tyler Schuck. I know I do.
Speaker 5: I mean, Isaac Brown's going to be a superstar to
Speaker 5: Corey Brooks. Really glad Louisville was able to add that
Speaker 5: guy in the portal. And again, I don't even defensively.
Speaker 5: You clearly miss Quincy Riley and Ashton July. He has
Speaker 5: not been able to make much of an impact for
Speaker 5: you this year. But like, I don't think the defense
Speaker 5: has personnel issues. I think they have leadership issues, organizational issues.
Speaker 5: They're not very well structed or constructed. I mean, they're
Speaker 5: just it's it's they're a mess, to put it lightly.
Speaker 5: So you know that may not make you feel better,
Speaker 5: and honestly, it actually makes it more frustrating for me,
Speaker 5: So again, it could be worse. The silver lining is
Speaker 5: that the things that you need to fix are easier
Speaker 5: to fix than going and getting a quarterback mid year
Speaker 5: who's not because the guy you brought in is not
Speaker 5: any good. That's not the situation you're in. So again,
Speaker 5: it's it's kind of a for me. I don't remember
Speaker 5: being this disappointed and frustrated knowing that they can. You know,
Speaker 5: we got to wait and see if they can do it.
Speaker 5: They can get this fixed. But I find it more
Speaker 5: maddening knowing that you know, you have really good players,
Speaker 5: I think not to see you're the most talented team
Speaker 5: in the country by any means, and you're gonna line
Speaker 5: up against teams this year at certain positions, then they're
Speaker 5: gonna that they're gonna have the advantage. But I don't
Speaker 5: think Louisville lost on Saturday to SMU and I don't
Speaker 5: think they lost a Notre Dame last week because of
Speaker 5: a personnel issue.
Speaker 1: So what's that tell you? It's coaching. I mean that
Speaker 1: we got it. We gotta call it like it is, so.
Speaker 5: They could easily get things figured out, play better, win
Speaker 5: a lot more ballgames than maybe people are projecting right now, Like,
Speaker 5: all that's on the table, and I'm not gonna tell
Speaker 5: anybody who is predicting that that you're you know, your
Speaker 5: way off.
Speaker 1: But for me, I gotta see it first.
Speaker 5: I thought Saturday against SMU is going to be an
Speaker 5: opportunity for them to just come out and be in sync,
Speaker 5: and they weren't, which was disappointing. All right, if you
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Speaker 5: jump in and give us a call, We'll get to
Speaker 5: the phone lines in just one second. But just to clarify,
Speaker 5: you know, to summarize is probably the best way to
Speaker 5: toward it. Here my thoughts on where Louisville football is.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think we all know the issues. I mean,
Speaker 5: we were watching it. How they get it fixed? They
Speaker 5: got to figure it out we can hope that they do.
Speaker 5: But you know, I'm trying to find the like the
Speaker 5: silver lining of like, well, you know, but that was
Speaker 5: last week. Last week was the opportunity for you to
Speaker 5: just go repair things that we know are somewhat you know,
Speaker 5: easy to repair. They should be easy to repair. What
Speaker 5: I mean by that it's just better communication coming ready
Speaker 5: to play. And sometimes it's semantics, right, Like when I
Speaker 5: say ready to play, I just mean, you know, match
Speaker 5: to the les level of intensity and energy that your
Speaker 5: opponent has and s CMU before they made a big
Speaker 5: play before you know, before they even really did anything
Speaker 5: to get momentum. I mean, they got momentum pretty much
Speaker 5: as soon as the game started, but like they just
Speaker 5: had a little more bounce to them, and Louisville was flat.
Speaker 5: And that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but whenever you whenever
Speaker 5: you play the way you did and and lose like that,
Speaker 5: it's one of those things that it's I think it's
Speaker 5: natural for fans to to chalk that up is one
Speaker 5: of the many things that could be holding this team back.
Speaker 5: All right, it's coffee and company. Philbouth Thornton's here on
Speaker 5: Sports Talk seven ninety again five two five seven one
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Dave. Dave, you're on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1: What's up.
Speaker 2: It's just, uh, the sub petitions on defense. Let's got
Speaker 2: to stop because it looks like half the Gays on
Speaker 2: defense or in one defense, and then the other half
Speaker 2: are aligned with something else. I mean, it's just total confusion.
Speaker 2: And I just have I have no faith in Ron English,
Speaker 2: you know, it just I don't know how much long
Speaker 2: longer Brahm is going to put up with this. And
Speaker 2: the other thing is these opposing teams, it seemed like
Speaker 2: they had the design quarterback graw play and the guy
Speaker 2: runs into the end zone.
Speaker 1: Untouched, like right out of a timeout too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well right exactly third and two. English should have
Speaker 2: known it's going to be a quarterback girl play because
Speaker 2: it's just ridiculous. In an offensive sad. I don't know
Speaker 2: about the offensive line. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 2: problem with the players are coaching, but this is a
Speaker 2: very bad offensive line. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Very disappointed to ask you this, David, because I mean,
Speaker 5: I think the offensive line is clearly the weakness of
Speaker 5: the team right now. But when you look at what
Speaker 5: the offense like you could overcome that though, Like they're
Speaker 5: not bad, but they're not the reason Louisville is losing again.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of factors in in how you end
Speaker 5: up here. But I feel like, you know, when I
Speaker 5: look at the offense, they've been able to overcome the
Speaker 5: poor O line play to where you know, the offensive
Speaker 5: line is clearly not good enough to just you know,
Speaker 5: line up and move a big pile. And we've learned
Speaker 5: that the hard way with a bunch of failed fourth downs.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's been really frustrating. And Tyler Shuck. I
Speaker 5: wish he had a little more time in the pocket.
Speaker 5: But again I think I think you you know, I
Speaker 5: think you can. I'm not that worried about the offense.
Speaker 5: I think Jeff now knows what he has on the
Speaker 5: O line. They're gonna have to make some adjustments and
Speaker 5: move some guys around because of the injuries that took place.
Speaker 5: Monroe Mills is likely going to be out, But you know,
Speaker 5: the offense overall, I'm not I'm not really that worried about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's uh, I don't know, Like I said,
Speaker 2: the substitution where on third down.
Speaker 1: The U yeah, I mean that's just that's just a
Speaker 1: complete under guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, what is Ashton Gilatti is? Is he injured?
Speaker 2: I mean a harly ever hear his name anymore?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, with Ashton, I wish I could give you
Speaker 5: an explanation as to why he's been so ineffective. And yes,
Speaker 5: he is being double team triple teamed. You know, I've
Speaker 5: seen people on Twitter posting screenshots from the games that
Speaker 5: show him being held and are not being called.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 5: Right, He's he's underperforming, but also, you know, he's clearly
Speaker 5: going to be a focal point for the opposing team
Speaker 5: when they're strategizing and you know, on the offensive line.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna act like they're great, but I'm not
Speaker 5: sitting here thinking Louisville is going to be unable to
Speaker 5: score points this year because they don't have you know,
Speaker 5: because their offensive line is you know that bad. I mean,
Speaker 5: right now, they're fifteenth in the country with four hundred
Speaker 5: and seventy two yards per game. And yes, I know
Speaker 5: some of those numbers are a little bit inflated due
Speaker 5: to the first two games being against Jacksonville State and
Speaker 5: Austin p But even if you took that out, louis
Speaker 5: has been able to move the ball without a whole
Speaker 5: lot of trouble. It's just been, you know, on fourth down.
Speaker 5: And here's a fourth down stat that'll really I mean again,
Speaker 5: it's not something you're probably going to be that surprised by,
Speaker 5: but I think it does kind of put in perspective
Speaker 5: just how you know how bad they've been on fourth down.
Speaker 5: This is from Eric Crawford's article at WDRB. So louill
Speaker 5: was one of five on fourth down at Notre Dame
Speaker 5: and then converted just two of four against SMU. So
Speaker 5: Louisville ranks dead last in the nation and fourth down
Speaker 5: rushing yards. But for those who don't know, the bad
Speaker 5: snap then ended up where the ball went over the
Speaker 5: punter's head and Notre Dame scored. That actually counts as
Speaker 5: a negative. That counts as a negative play. That's not
Speaker 5: just you know, that's a negative forty two yard play.
Speaker 5: So that's the biggest factor as to why you're that
Speaker 5: bad on fourth down. That counts as a failed fourth
Speaker 5: down conversion, which is kind of silly. But even when
Speaker 5: you don't count that play. Louisville is still rushed for
Speaker 5: seven total yards on four fourth down carries, and six
Speaker 5: of those came on one fourth down that was successful.
Speaker 5: I mean that that really puts it in perspective. And
Speaker 5: you know, Jeff was pretty adam and he now knows
Speaker 5: they can't they can't try that again and expect it
Speaker 5: to work. So, I mean, they ran a fourth down
Speaker 5: play later and you know, got the ball to the
Speaker 5: outside to it was at Redmond. I know it was
Speaker 5: one of their tight ends.
Speaker 1: And you know that worked.
Speaker 5: I just wish they weren't in fourth down situations as
Speaker 5: often as they have been. So we had somebody who's
Speaker 5: on the line earlier that was that, you know, their
Speaker 5: comment that they dropped off, but their comment was that
Speaker 5: they don't think that the issue is coaching, and I
Speaker 5: figured that when I've know, that person hung up. So
Speaker 5: I have no clue what what they were actually going
Speaker 5: to say. But like I thought, we'd have some people
Speaker 5: that are that are still a little uncomfortable in acting
Speaker 5: like Jeff Brahms has you know has and it's not
Speaker 5: really acting like it's just the truth, like in he's
Speaker 5: acknowledged it. I think the bigger coaching issues that we
Speaker 5: have is defense, and everybody knows that. And to be fair,
Speaker 5: that's that falls on Jeff given the fact that he's
Speaker 5: the guy who's the head coach and he employees. You know,
Speaker 5: he hired Ron English. Now, I would imagine that there
Speaker 5: have been some pretty hard conversations in the last forty
Speaker 5: eight hours and they're going to definitely simplify some things
Speaker 5: defensively because you know, Jeff was pretty you never mentioned
Speaker 5: anybody's name, but we all know who he's talking about.
Speaker 5: And I'll let you guys hear it after the I'll
Speaker 5: let you guys hear what he said after the game,
Speaker 5: because you know, he was asked about was there a
Speaker 5: plan to try to contain you know, their quarterback who
Speaker 5: you know, looked like Mike Vick out there, and he said,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, it was emphasized and it was not bottled
Speaker 5: through on. So I think Jeff's got a real issue
Speaker 5: with the way the defense is being led in every
Speaker 5: way as far as their strategy, as far as it
Speaker 5: being executed. I mean, they really are a mess. And
Speaker 5: for what it's worth, they still will occasionally make timely
Speaker 5: places They did it against notre Dame. I mean they
Speaker 5: did it in the beginning of the second half, so
Speaker 5: that that that's something, But like in any moment, any
Speaker 5: moment in the game right now, until they show us otherwise,
Speaker 5: we can't be shocked if they just have a guy
Speaker 5: randomly run on the field because he thinks he's supposed
Speaker 5: to be out there because nobody's on the same page,
Speaker 5: because the communications so bad, Like that's that that that
Speaker 5: would blow it. It would make you lose your mind.
Speaker 5: But like you can't say you'd be surprised because those
Speaker 5: kinds of things have happened. But real quick, before we
Speaker 5: get to the phone lines, I'm not saying that Jeff
Speaker 5: Brahm is the reason Louisville is is three and two
Speaker 5: and they've lost their last two games, but Notre Dame specifically,
Speaker 5: not as much SMU, but like he's made some decisions
Speaker 5: that have clearly been a factor in the result of
Speaker 5: the game. Doesn't mean he's a terrible coach at all,
Speaker 5: doesn't mean he's a bad coach, And I don't really
Speaker 5: think anybody's saying that. But I thought we were at
Speaker 5: a point where we could we could comfortably talk about
Speaker 5: our program and be critical when necessary. To players and
Speaker 5: coach without it meaning that like we hate him and
Speaker 5: we want them gone. And I'm not saying anybody's out
Speaker 5: there saying that, but like when Jeff Bram's even acknowledging
Speaker 5: that he's that he's you know, had some made some
Speaker 5: bad decisions, he would he would go back and do
Speaker 5: it differently if he could, Like, I think that means
Speaker 5: that we've got clear room to say that from top
Speaker 5: to bottom, you know, everybody's been at fault to an extent.
Speaker 5: I think there's one area specifically as of now that
Speaker 5: that seems to be the most disappointing and the biggest
Speaker 5: factor in why you're in this position. But if you
Speaker 5: want to call back, go for it, because I'm curious,
Speaker 5: you know, because I'm curious if if you think that
Speaker 5: anybody criticizing Brahm is like out of line, doesn't mean
Speaker 5: that they think he's a terrible coach and he shouldn't
Speaker 5: be here. It's just look, this is this is unfamiliar
Speaker 5: territory for a lot of louisvill fans, myself included, but
Speaker 5: it is what it is, all right. Five ht two
Speaker 5: five seven one seventy nine hundred is the number. Let's
Speaker 5: go back to the phone lines. We'll welcome in.
Speaker 2: Is it heavy.
Speaker 1: Heavy?
Speaker 3: Are you there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I'm here.
Speaker 1: What's up man? How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing fine, man. I just want to take that
Speaker 3: different twists on on this subject. My my twist is
Speaker 3: is that, I mean, I kind of said this back
Speaker 3: when the transport Portal opened up the whole lot, and
Speaker 3: now the NIO is starting to open up a whole lot.
Speaker 3: But I'm just talking about it being more of a
Speaker 3: level playing field. And I'm I don't think I think
Speaker 3: we give just because they're the local cardinals, we give
Speaker 3: them more credit than I think we should. Sometimes. I
Speaker 3: think that there's there's different tiers to this, and some
Speaker 3: of those teams like SMU and and other smaller teams
Speaker 3: are getting to our level or our level, maybe sometimes
Speaker 3: above our level, because I don't think our tiers up
Speaker 3: there with you know, with Georgia and Tennessee and all
Speaker 3: these other teams just like you just seen you know, Tennessee,
Speaker 3: I mean Tennessee get beat. You just seen Alabama get beat.
Speaker 3: You see Michigan get beat.
Speaker 4: You see.
Speaker 3: No there they ain't take a loss they once to take.
Speaker 3: I'm just I said it years ago that I just
Speaker 3: think that with the with the transport portal and with
Speaker 3: the nil that it's it's making it more of a
Speaker 3: level playing field.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but I
Speaker 5: want to go back to you what you mean about
Speaker 5: why we give, you know, the little like why we
Speaker 5: give Louisville too much credit? Because like SMU, some of
Speaker 5: those dudes out there that made big plays for them
Speaker 5: are dudes who transferred in from Miami or another SEC
Speaker 5: program or an SEC program. So Louisville's in a position
Speaker 5: right now where they've got dudes making big plays like
Speaker 5: Jacry Brooks, Tyler Shuck, and the Portal has certainly been
Speaker 5: like those guys came from the Portal, so everybody's able
Speaker 5: to you know, really capitalize. I mean they can go
Speaker 5: out and fill a void and get a really good player.
Speaker 5: So it's definitely even some things out a little bit.
Speaker 5: But I guess you know, what do you mean by
Speaker 5: giving a little like.
Speaker 3: Dudes, what I'm talking about is the tears. I don't
Speaker 3: think we're in that top tier yet. I think there's
Speaker 3: I would agree probably I will think they're there's probably
Speaker 3: maybe fifteen teams and the like in the first tier,
Speaker 3: twenty five in the second tier. Louisill's probably like in
Speaker 3: that third tier where there might be like forty to
Speaker 3: forty five teams that get around the same players and
Speaker 3: it just depends on what happens that day.
Speaker 1: Which you know, you know, I don't disagree at all,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you can the.
Speaker 5: Playing field is certainly much more even because everybody can
Speaker 5: go out there and get dudes to come in and
Speaker 5: and and you know, you're right, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: teams that are probably relatively similar when it comes to
Speaker 5: personnel because they've been able to go out and fill
Speaker 5: those holes with guys in the portal.
Speaker 1: And you know you're right.
Speaker 5: If they got a good coach and they come ready
Speaker 5: to play, they'll knock you off, right. Well, I appreciate
Speaker 5: the call heavy, Yeah, I mean, I look, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of schools like Louisville that you know, have been
Speaker 5: able to retain guys they want to retain and then
Speaker 5: go get some good players in the portal and it's
Speaker 5: given them. It's it's changed some things for him, it's
Speaker 5: not made it to where they've gone from being irrelevant
Speaker 5: to being like national title contenders, trust me like that.
Speaker 5: But but SMU is a good example of a team
Speaker 5: and I'm not. And I think that's what the caller
Speaker 5: is kind of referring to. Like SMU, they've got resources too, right,
Speaker 5: They've got nil you know, they're now in the ACC.
Speaker 5: I'm sure that helped them when they were recruiting dudes
Speaker 5: in the portal. And you know, their quarterback, believe it
Speaker 5: or not, is not somebody from the portal. He's a
Speaker 5: guy who was a backup and they put him in
Speaker 5: this year and he's just been shredding them. But you know,
Speaker 5: their best defensive player, he's a guy who transfer from Miami.
Speaker 5: Same thing with their the running back who used to
Speaker 5: be a receiver at Miami. He's a transfer from Miami
Speaker 5: and he's one of the all time. He's one of
Speaker 5: the current leaders in the country when it comes to
Speaker 5: all purpose yards. So when you know when you're relatively
Speaker 5: similar as far as personnel, and then you know you
Speaker 5: got veterans who have talent that are playing sometimes on
Speaker 5: their third school, you know, in any given day they
Speaker 5: could they could come out and make some plays and
Speaker 5: knock you off. I mean take little out of the equation.
Speaker 5: Look at what happened over the weekend with all these upsets.
Speaker 5: I mean we'll never know, but I I if those
Speaker 5: schools don't have the portal to go kind of fill
Speaker 5: that void between you know, fill that gap, I should say,
Speaker 5: between where they are when it comes to recruiting talent.
Speaker 5: Do those upsets happen? I mean, we'll never know, but
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't. All right, real quick, actually,
Speaker 5: let's do this. Let's get let's get to a break.
Speaker 5: We'll come back on the other side. Get back to
Speaker 5: the phone lines. Richard, you'll be up first when we
Speaker 5: come back. If you guys want to call you Ken
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Speaker 5: the number if you guys want to give us a
Speaker 5: call still, Folks, reacting to a disappointing start to the
Speaker 5: Louisville football season, No doubt, I didn't think it needed
Speaker 5: to be said, but I did say it earlier, just
Speaker 5: you know, to clarify my thoughts on it. You can
Speaker 5: feel whatever way you want and be a fan whatever
Speaker 5: where you want. And I mean that not being sarcastic,
Speaker 5: not just you know, just being just being honest. But
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think that Louisville, you know, making
Speaker 5: the playoff every year is going to be like what
Speaker 5: defines a good season. So yes, it's unfortunate to see
Speaker 5: that they've really put themselves in a tough spot. Already
Speaker 5: losing a home game in acc play when you still
Speaker 5: have Miami and Clemson on the schedule. But you know,
Speaker 5: know they can get better and still win a lot
Speaker 5: of games left on the schedule. And if they do that,
Speaker 5: you know that would you could still have a good season.
Speaker 5: Would it be disappointing to miss the playoff?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean if you feel like, you know, we get
Speaker 5: to the end of the year and they have corrected
Speaker 5: some things, and man, if they'd have just started off
Speaker 5: the year with the defense a little bit more organized
Speaker 5: and they had a better strategy on fourth downs, those
Speaker 5: kind of things, Yeah, to be frustrating, but that's that's
Speaker 5: that's sports man like.
Speaker 1: It happens.
Speaker 5: You slip up, you lose games, and you know, losing
Speaker 5: two in a row is never fun. But I still
Speaker 5: think they can they can have a good year. But
Speaker 5: I got to see them actually put together a game
Speaker 5: where they are a good team. And I don't mean
Speaker 5: like from a personnel standpoint as far as talent. I
Speaker 5: just mean from like, you know, being more organized defensively,
Speaker 5: not making silly mistakes, and again not being so bad
Speaker 5: on fourth down. All right, Five two, five, nine hundred
Speaker 5: is the number let's go to Richard who joins us. Now, Richard,
Speaker 5: you're on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4: What's up afternoon, Nick, and enjoy your program. Thank you,
Speaker 4: observation question, and maybe answer to your question. First of all,
Speaker 4: I think your job is to analyze and question where
Speaker 4: questions need to be and sometimes there are questions about coaching,
Speaker 4: and I think that's appropriate. Secondly, an observation, Uh, Jeff
Speaker 4: has a headset on, so I'm I'm thinking he's hearing everything,
Speaker 4: wondering why the adjustments can't be made during the game
Speaker 4: when you sees something that is that doesn't go with
Speaker 4: how he thinks it should go. And third, haven't done
Speaker 4: the analysis, but I'm wondering. We're a lot of the
Speaker 4: portal folks of alignment, and the portal portals came from
Speaker 4: and what schools they came from, and if they came
Speaker 4: from Power five conferences. And I'll hang up and let
Speaker 4: you listen to your answers.
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it, Richard, appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know as far as the communication,
Speaker 5: you know, I as far as what in the you
Speaker 5: know that Jeff lets Ron English run the defense. So
Speaker 5: like you know, I'm not saying that to completely remove
Speaker 5: any blame from him. Again, he's responsible for his staff,
Speaker 5: he's responsible for this program. He's the head coach. But like,
Speaker 5: as far as the lack of communication on defense, I
Speaker 5: mean I would assume he's not involved in that. I
Speaker 5: mean that's why I think you see him look around like,
Speaker 5: how the hell could this happen? Whenever you see such
Speaker 5: a you know, a goof. But when it comes to
Speaker 5: the offensive line, I mean, they they went out and
Speaker 5: they added, let's see here. I mean, you bring back
Speaker 5: some pretty good offensive lineman. I mean, you've got Gonzalez,
Speaker 5: who I believe was an All acc caliber player last year.
Speaker 5: You know, you've got Ronaldo Brown who's coming off of
Speaker 5: an injury and he's got it clearly he has to
Speaker 5: not be healthy because he started here for years and
Speaker 5: now he can't get in the game, which I do
Speaker 5: think it is because he's not one hundred percent just yet.
Speaker 5: But when you look at the other offensive lineman they
Speaker 5: went and god, you know one of them that's playing
Speaker 5: a lot of snaps is Pete Niagaret. I mean he
Speaker 5: went to Northern Illinois. You look at Monroe Mills, he
Speaker 5: came from Texas Tech, and he, by the way, is
Speaker 5: probably going to be out for some time. Vic Cutler,
Speaker 5: he actually might have already transferred out now that I'm
Speaker 5: looking at the depth started. But Johnathan Mendoza, he plays
Speaker 5: a lot. He came from Yale that's an IVY league.
Speaker 5: So you know, I talked about this a little bit
Speaker 5: on the Postgame show, and maybe it's an overreaction because
Speaker 5: you never know who's going to be in the portal
Speaker 5: when you get there. But you may be better off
Speaker 5: developing lineman and trying to, you know, go out and
Speaker 5: get a guy that's got a lot of talent coming
Speaker 5: out of high school, but his raw, develop him, try
Speaker 5: to keep him around, because I think when you get
Speaker 5: dudes in the portal that are in the that are
Speaker 5: coming from the interior, you just really don't know what
Speaker 5: you're gonna get. I mean, you never really know at
Speaker 5: any position how a guy's going to translate. But you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes you get a dude from the Power five, from
Speaker 5: the G five that really is a difference maker. And
Speaker 5: then sometimes you get a guy who you can say, Okay,
Speaker 5: you know he's not terrible, but I can see why
Speaker 5: he played in the MAC or something like that. All right,
Speaker 5: quick break. We got two more hours left and a
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