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We got Brady popinga on the line. Be Pop, how
you living?
Speaker 1: Man? How you living? That? Yeah? Sounds like your voice
is a little rasky there. Man.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what happens in radio, right. You have
to speak for four hours a day. Uh, when you
get a little cold, All of a sudden, you're like,
oh man, now now got a cough, and now you
never get time to rest.
Speaker 3: Baby. I'm just it's like the it's like the calf
football season. No one's ever fully healthy. I'm never fully
healthy during radio season.
Speaker 1: Baby, I don't have to know you toughened it out, man,
way to be to grant it.
Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, if Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker could tough
it out, I can continue to tough it out. What
do you make of that game three in a row
now in the Holy War, Brady, what stood out to
you end this game?
Speaker 1: Well, it was very much as I had anticipated, which
is both sides were going to obviously play. I thought
both of us played our best ball of the year
in terms of physicality, execution, and ultimately it just comes
down to I think everybody's really hit this multiple times,
if it's you know, you're hearing the coaches or you know,
anybody analyzing the game. That comes down to turnovers and
then ultimately comes down to the fourth down conversions or
lock thereof for Utah where they're one for five, and
especially how big those were in terms of being at
point blank range of kicking a field goal. Also big
in the sense of being able to handle the inside
running game because if you look at me, like a
lot of people will go to the rushing stats for
BYU's defense, to be like, oh, they give up tw
hundred fifty six yards on the ground, they must have
gotten moved around, and that no majority of those, I'd
say over one hundred and some, maybe more than half,
were all the outside either quarterback running game stuff or
the fly sweeps, when in fact, if you tried to
power us on defense and run right at us, which
were indicative on the fourth down, we were perfect, you know,
especially with one yard to go outside of you know,
all those fourth downs except for there's one that was
a pass, the other one was the fly sweep that
bomba chopped the do down before he could get to
the first down marker, and then the other ones were
all just straight ahead power runs and we stuffed them.
So at the end of it all, I mean, you
could just see that's high level football. And when it
comes down to that, it comes down to who plays
the cleanest, and that was us. We played the cleanest.
We did not turn the ball over, and you know
they because if you look at like turnovers plus fourth
down like conversions, I think we missed on two fourth
down conversions. They missed on four plus or two turnovers,
So it was like a sixth to two advantage. For
us in terms of stolen possessions and turnovers, which, as
we know ben turnover second to the scorer. Whoever wins
that battle wins the game in terms of you know,
I think it's like ninety percent of the time you
win that turnover, how you're gonna win the game. Where
I was obviously with the points one hundred percent of
the time, and he's one more points than your point,
A you're gonna win. So that was the difference, you know.
So it was to me just a real competitive game.
I loved being able to see both sides. It was
like back and forth and back and forth, and just
as as soon as what looked like we were gonna
get control, they fought back. And as soon as they
looked like we were gonna get control, you know, or
they got control excuse me, early that fourth quarter, to boom,
we fight back and it was just back and forth.
And then, like I said, we did enough at the
end there to pull ahead by playing cleaner, didn't relinquish
the lead, and ended up.
Speaker 3: Similar Brady three in a row.
Speaker 2: Uh, he's a nice winning streak for Kilani and this
Cougar football team. What like staves out to you about
the last three years. Why is it that BYU finally
winning this robbery game?
Speaker 1: Excellent question. I think we have to we have to
really acknowledge this. So if you go back to when
when did when did Utah start in the PAC twelve
around twenty ten?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so then they rattled off nine in a
row against US, right. The biggest reason why they were
able to do that is because they had more resources.
They were paying their coaching staff far more then our
coaching staff was making, they were having they had more
resources to recruit. They were getting a lot better players,
higher quality players across the board. I'm not saying like
the best players, but in terms of depth. You know,
you brought up you know, Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glaski,
like we have depth now. And so what has happened
is is over that nine streak. You know, I have
to bring that up to fully help understand this latest
streak is over that nine game streak where they were winning.
They had a so outgune. It really wasn't like two
teams that were on the same part in terms of resources,
recruiting the whole thing. And you could sense that, you
could sense that Utah had an advantage there. They were,
you know, constantly either contending or winning Pacto championships, and
yet we played them tough. You know, you look at
most the majority of those games, they were all one
score games, came down to field goals that were missed,
you know, those kinds of things. Now, guess what, we
have the same resources they have, We have the same talent.
It's not more. We have coach coaching staff. That's to me,
the man, it would be really hard to go out
and ham pick a coaching staff this good that BYU has.
And the reason is is because you pay your guys.
And you may say, well wait, you know what, you know,
we had a good coaching staff that went to Virginia.
Well sure, but a lot of those guys too, they
didn't have the players. You know, you don't. You didn't
have this this vast talent pool that now BYU has.
And so now that you see kind of like things
have drawn even with resources, talent, you know, coaching overall.
Now what you're seeing is is you're saying, I mean,
we're we're taking over, you know, and it's and it's
kind of a natural thing, I would say, because back
when I you know, when I was growing up, and
it was different when I played, But when I was
growing up in Utah was always always looked at as
kind of the second option. And I do believe that,
you know that Utah took exception of that. You know,
guys like a Morgan Scalley, he never had a chance
to go to Buya Uy. You never would offer him,
you know, and he probably really wanted to go, and
that really bit him and really like hurt him to
where he's like, hey, any chance I have against Yu.
We want to really, you know, show that we belong
and that we are as good as they, you know,
they don't think we are basically. And so there's and
I think that's kind of coming back where Utah is not.
It's just it's just not it's it's a state run school.
It's not private school. They just don't have some advantages
that we have at Buyu, you know. So, and it's
not a knock against Utah, it's just the nature of
the state run college versus a privately owned one. And
we could go down the list of all the government
run entities versus privately owned entities, and you could probably
show how much more effective and efficient the privately owned
equity entities a RAN than a government one, you know,
and that's just kind of the nature of it. So
I see this kind of being what it is. As
long as we have the same resources, the same talent pool,
that YU is gonna have a little bit of an
advantage on UTAH. And like I said, that's kind of
the nature of the two institutions. And that's okay. But
at the same time, it doesn't mean we're gonna win
every single year. It'll still continue to be competitive, but
if there's going to be a small edge, it probably
is with BYU, and we'll see if that leads to complacency,
you know, because when you kind of have that ship
on the shoulder between quotations or that one that's kind
of feeling at a little left out, you know, you
come with a little bit more urgency. Which there was
a time too where, you know, especially in my years,
our teams did not look at this game as critically
as I think teams of today do because it was
kind of like, you know, what, if we win, great,
If we don't, We've owned these guys for so long
it doesn't really registered to us. So the point is,
like the reason why it is shifted from nine wins
from Utah from now is simply resources talent pool is
equaled out. And like I said, when you have a
government run entity up against a privately run entity that's
run well, we all know that those privately run entities
tend to operate more efficiently, more optimly. And that's and
that's just how it's going to be. And that's okay.
Speaker 3: Check this stat out.
Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham is eleven and six all time against the
BYU Cougar's as head coach for the Utes. When b
YU and Utah are in the same conference, Kyle Whittingham
is three and five against the Cougars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, Kyle's a hell of a coach, man.
I really loved I loved his dad by the way,
his dad coached some of my coaches, and I just
I just love his competitiveness. I love his like rough
round the edge kind of mentality. And I really hope
there's a day that at BYU we can we can
acknowledge him somehow in the lexicon of great b YU
football players that went on to do great DYU are
just great things in the football space. Because he's a
leges steric coach. He's highly respected throughout the country and
and I don't I don't really care in my opinion
if he like you know, he kind of like reciprocates,
I think we to you know, latterly, it isn't when
he events and he's going to retire here in the
next few years. I would imagine he has every right
to retire on his own terms, by the way, as
he's still producing you know, really good football teams. But
we really need to do something for him at b
YU because you know, by U is not b YU
today or even at that time, and where it was
really a setting without the winning hands, and there needs
to be an acknowledgment of that. I mean, I i'd
like to see maybe you know, I'm not saying, like
make a statue, but there needs to be something, you know,
within the lexicon and the the history and the the
some symbol of their impact of b YU football because
there even though that he's with Utah, he's had a
huge I mean, look at our coaching staff, Kilane Jay
Roderick justin you know, you know, we just go down
the list all these guys that were impacted and didn't
so positive simply fine Kyle, and then Kyle goes all
you know, his full circle, you know, he goes and
east he hires Jason Beck. I mean that offense, you guys.
I hope everybody realizes the offense you saw in Utah
run against US and has been running this year is
a b YU offense. And that's that originates all the
way back in the eighties. That's a that's an air
raid offense by Mike Leach that has over time evolved
having a heavy quarterback running scheme to him. But that's
a West Coast offense. The plays, how he how he died,
did he's up, the plays, how he calls the plays.
It's all West Coast, all BYU stuff. So it's like,
you know, I just I just think that there's a
there's a great connection there that we need to celebrate somehow,
some way. You know, Kyle Waitning half from a BYU perspective,
I we got to figure out a way to celebrate
his influence, just as like a guy that went to
BYU and then on made a huge impact in in
college football. It's football overall. As a matter of fact,
like I said, him and his dad of crazy connections
and networking throughout all the ranks of football, both profet
football and in the college. So if anybody has any ideas,
I think it would be really cool. I mean, do
a statue of them, I think would be fun. Or
name a building afterim. How about that you get some
cool building. It's like a maybe you have like an
alumni organization area and you name it like the Witting
Hand Offices or something. I think that would be phenomenal.
And like I said, he doesn't have to reciprocate or
even like it, but it would be great to honor him,
you know, as a BYU alum that has gone on
to do phenomenal things.
Speaker 2: I think you're I think that would be very kilani esque, right.
I think that would be the right thing to do.
There's gonna be plenty of petty BYU fans that do
not like that idea though, because of the form and
fashion which Kyle has treated the robbery BYU BYU fans
over the years.
Speaker 1: And I get it and I understand that, but also
I just look at it, like, for example, I can
just have so much more empathy now because Jason was
my teammate, you know, even though like you know, he's
he's with Utah now, and you know, Kelly and I
were talking on the islander of the game. We're like, man,
his offense drinking tough to stop, Holy smokes. I mean
he you know, he had all these cool little nuances
and and I just was proud of him, you know.
I just was like, man, I'm so proud that I
was his teammate, you know. And then I started leaving Codd.
I was like, dude, Kyle's like our teammate, you know.
And it's like and then and he's been phenomenal for
you know, thirty years, forty years, however, well you know,
and so it's like, you know, you kind of start
to put things into perspective and you realize that we
all were kind of you know, we're all in that
same spot where we we we had the YU impacked us.
And then whether you're still at the OYU, you've gone
on elsewhere, like that needs to be celebrated, you know,
because at the end of the day, whether we weren't
accepted or not, Klannie or excuse me, Kyle, is a
function of the U football. When you see at Utah
would never have happened or would never happened if he
never would have gone to b YU if he never
would have had his dad learning under coach, winning coach
at and so it's it all goes back to that
origin point of BYU football. And so it's like even
though it's a different team arrival, it's still and it
still goes well and reflects well for BYU because that's
you know what basically made that happen and brought you
talk to where it is today.
Speaker 2: Graaty ppinga here on ESPN the Fan, let's highlight some
of the individual performances from this BAYU Coogan football team.
Offensively defensively what stood at to you from the personnel
or even the play calling of BYU's respective coordinators.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I thought Offensively, it was a beautiful work
of art man. We pounded them inside and you I mean,
and look their D line played hard man John henry Man,
he's a stud. Finos a stud or two interior guys.
You're tough. But they were missing ton of loss at
big time. We were moving. I mean, if you turn
on that film, we weren't tossing offensive line, tossing their
interior defensive line just out of it, right. I haven't
seen a Utah defensive line beat it like they weren't
dominated and overwhelmed per se, but they were moved Like
I haven't. I haven't remembered a Utah defensive line being moved.
And that's why if you look on that last drive, uh,
I'm trying to remember the exact point where you could
just see, Oh, it's where where we scored that touchdown.
What actually is right before the QT draw with Bear there,
you you can just see it in the body language
of Utah's defensive front that they knew that no matter what,
that inside zone they could not stop it. They just
and and Roderick was so freaking phenomenal. I was so
camp for him because that inside zone was working so well.
In my mind, I was like, do not change it,
do not And he didn't. He ran it like three
or four times in a row where he's just and
we were popping three four or five six foot he
pop with, you know. And then and then when we
got to that that situation where Bear ran it, I
was like, dude, run that QB draw because it's basically
a QB draw is basically an inside zone, but you're
faking like you're passing. It's the same concept. And man,
those dudes blocked that up beautifully. So again the offensive
line was just phenomenal. And then you know, Bear was
was phenomenal himself. I mean the throw to freaking Chase
for that first touchdown was like, I mean, I'm not
gonna put him and he's not Aaron Rodgers, you know,
or far But that's exactly what those guys do. When
you're in Manda Man and it's like you're on an island.
You throw the ball at the head of the Manda
Man cover guy because you know he's not gonna turn
around in time, especially when you're on the same page
with your receiver, and that's gonna give your receiver actually
the best chance on the back shoulder or the ball
just sipping past his year for you know, a complete
and that's exactly what happened as a phenomenal play. I mean,
he's not throwing because a lot of people don't realize,
like he's not throwing the Chase like, oh, Chase is open,
I'm gonna throw it to him. No, no, no, he
sees Oh it's Manda Man. We know it's Manda Man.
I am throwing it right at the dude's head expecting
chase to make a play. Basically, he's throwing him open,
you know, and that's like that takes a lot of
guts and it takes precision from a young quarterback to
do that. So that was you know, he was he
was subtle mounts man like his running is throwing was awesome.
And then defensively man like our front guys play their
butts off because it's hard. Man, when you're getting dashed
like we were on those fly sweep some of the
quarterback runs and we're getting down with our goal on
like right behind us, there's a time there some guys
are just like, you know what, man, we can't stop
him to day, and they kind of just let their
guard dead a little bit. Our guys didn't do that.
I mean, the most impressive stat to me is one
for five and fourth down. I mean that Will is
crazy because it's so easy to allow all the other
previous plays to then basically dictate to you and your
confidence and in your mentality like, Okay, we couldn't stop
him in those previous ones, how are we going to
stop him now?
Speaker 3: How would? Sorry? Are you cut out for a second there, Brady?
I apologize, No worries, man, but I was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just depressed with the front guys, the
resiliency on defense and on our ability offensively to run
the ball. And like I said, Roderick was just right
on the money with his play calling.
Speaker 2: How impressive is Bear Bachmeire in his toughness. That was
a knockout punch that he sustained from Landerbarton. It went
right to the jaw. When you get hitting the jaw
like that, that's different than getting hit like anywhere else
in the helmet sometimes, like to me, the back of
the head is where you get kind of like you
get knocked out a lot.
Speaker 3: You hit the back of your head somehow.
Speaker 2: And then a hit to the John like that, He
bounced up from that like a like a heavyweight boxer.
Speaker 3: This kid's tough as nails.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's not even the hardest that he took.
I don't know if you saw the hit where John
Henry came zipping around the edge. That a little heavy
hand swipe on our left tackle. It just blasted show
the right to the ribs of Bear, and Bear completed
the past. But you can see he's getting up a
little slow, and so yeah, I mean his toughness is phenopal.
I mean, that's what makes him, in my opinion, special
is he's he's he's willing to play with some discomfort
and he functions at a high level. Some guys, as
soon as they get uncomfortable, it's like they can't think straight.
You know, they lose focus. All they can think about
is feeling sorry for themselves and that they're hurt, and
then they're playing really diminishes. You know, that doesn't happen
with Beart. He knows that, hey, I got a job,
I got an objective to achieve. It doesn't matter if
I feel good, if I'm not feeling good, if I'm
in discomfort, I'm gonna I'm gonna achieve that objective. And
he does it day and the day up said. He's big.
You know, his thick body helps in those situations because
like I mean, even that run, that that that touchdown
run he had on that draw play, I mean, he's
dragging dudes into the dance. I don't know if you
guys huffer number twenty three for Util, he dragged him
three yards and obviously he had help, but uh, his
big body, man, it helps. And then on top of it,
his toughness is what ultimately sets him up for the
most amount of success, because yeah, it's not easy. It's
not easy when you're banged up in discomfort kind of store,
dealing with pain to go out perform at a high level.
And this wasn't the only night he did it. He
did it against Arizona, he did against you. He's he's
been doing it all year and he's he's only gonna
get better. Man, He's getting more comfortable too. I don't
I don't think people realize that when he's throwing the ball,
he's way different now than he was even two three
weeks ago. And I'm sure after this game, with the
high level of competitiveness, he's even gonna be more comfortable,
which that only bodes well for us in.
Speaker 3: Him binga here on ESPN the Fan.
Speaker 2: Couple less things, Brady, as we wrap up this segment,
where does b YU go from here? And can they
continue this positive momentum on the road? Are they healthy enough?
Can they win on the road versus Iowa State and
continue this momentum?
Speaker 1: View thing? Hey man, we got depth, Like that's the
one thing that I want to tell everybody. We got guys. Okay,
if we got to go in there without Glasgow, without Jack,
I am not feeling like whoa, But look, we got
some their playmakers. There will be a drop off, but
we got guys that can come in and do good
things and keep things afloat, you know.
Speaker 4: And I and I and I think that's, like I said,
one of the big reality is now with how talented
overall our teammates and the development of the young guys.
Speaker 1: Also with the coaching, you know, that helps the coaching
with with these kids that are we are willing to develop.
But yeah, I mean the fact that we run the
ball and can stop the runs so well that's been
in like people realize, like that is the golden like
standard and the sweet spot for any team and any
level of football, because it travels, it performs well in
poor weather. It's your equalizer if you're playing against the
team that may be more talented or athletic. And then
ultimately what it is, it's a it's a it's a
function to where you're able to then set up all
your other stuff, you know, and the fact that we
do those as good as anybody within our league. I
believe there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to
go up to Iowa State. Establish our physical presence, make plays,
make life really hard for you know, rock go up there.
That kids a heck of a player. By the way,
offensive line is scrappy. They got some skill guys too.
You know. I just I think our defense are excuse me,
our offense should control their defense quite a bit. But
but yeah, there's no reason why this should not travel well,
you know, especially this week up to Ames Iowa.
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Speaker 2: Brady, butpinga, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much, Brady, appreciate
your time today.
Speaker 1: Brother, always a classic Ben, Good luck to bro Hope
you so bad or Biggie hey man.
Speaker 2: I just keep on pounding the electrolytes, the the beverages
and uh and then taking cough drops and and day quill.
So I'm I'm gonna fight through a baby. I'm fighting
through it just like Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker.
Speaker 3: Baby, you're a.
Speaker 1: Freaking animal, dude, You're one of those tough suckers out there.
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