Speaker 1: Oh, bed of that star bed of that, Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the
Speaker 2: Cajun night and tonight I am flying solo.
Speaker 1: Raven Lee had some things come up at her house
Speaker 1: that she needed to address.
Speaker 2: But I have on the One, the only, great and
Speaker 2: the powerful, the man, the myth, the legend of Catalyst
Speaker 2: Jones from the White Rappits is How the fuck are you?
Speaker 1: Brother? I haven't talked to you. I feel like in
Speaker 1: a hot minute.
Speaker 3: Jacob is good. Bro.
Speaker 4: You know, a couple of months ago you came on
Speaker 4: one of my round taps.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: And I at least I got in the last hurah
Speaker 4: when when Jonathan was still with you there, so I
Speaker 4: got to say my goodbyes almost I didn't know he
Speaker 4: was leaving.
Speaker 3: That kind of hit me as a shot, Bro.
Speaker 2: I didn't know either, Just so we're all clear. He
Speaker 2: I mean, for about a year and a half he
Speaker 2: had kind of made mention that he was kind of
Speaker 2: losing it as far as the conspiracy conversation goes, and
Speaker 2: he wanted to go more meta and more gnostic and
Speaker 2: more uh. You know, though, if you want to give
Speaker 2: it a title the Woo Woo side of things. He
Speaker 2: had been talking about that for about a year and
Speaker 2: a half now, but I didn't think he was going
Speaker 2: to pull the trigger. Then one day he pretty much
Speaker 2: is like, hey, dude, I'm out, so uh we need
Speaker 2: to find you a new co host. And I'm like, huh,
Speaker 2: but yeah, So I am glad that you were one
Speaker 2: of the last guests we had. All the way it
Speaker 2: was still me and him.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad that you guys chose Raven.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be honest with you, I had no
Speaker 4: idea who she was until you guys had brought her
Speaker 4: to the forefront. Yeah, and you know, I'd gotten a
Speaker 4: text message from Jonathan kind of like hey, I'm dipping
Speaker 4: away or whatever, and I was like, hey, man, I'm
Speaker 4: sad to see you go, but I wish you the
Speaker 4: best of the luck. You know, you created something with
Speaker 4: with Jacob that's like amazing, and it's it's gonna last,
Speaker 4: it's gonna stand the test of times.
Speaker 1: So you can be proud of that, no, no doubt,
Speaker 1: no doubt.
Speaker 2: And he's he's growing metamistics to be his new baby
Speaker 2: right and right now it's in like the infant stage,
Speaker 2: kind of getting to the childhood stage. It's getting it's
Speaker 2: gonna grow in and of itself. It's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 2: take off in its home regard. But yeah, man, he
Speaker 2: after about five and some change years of doing this
Speaker 2: full time, he decided because I think, honestly, aside from
Speaker 2: the religous debates, which are always a hot button issue
Speaker 2: with he and I, because he wants to go more
Speaker 2: towards the gnostic and the occult side of things, while
Speaker 2: I want to lean more towards the religious.
Speaker 1: Side of things.
Speaker 2: So obviously there's some clash there, right, But that made
Speaker 2: the show what it was for a good bit that
Speaker 2: was the debate, but also like, we're not a religious pod.
Speaker 2: We're a conspiracy pod, and you can't talk about certain
Speaker 2: conspiracies without bringing up a cult or without bringing up religion,
Speaker 2: And like, in a certain regard, it flowed in another regard,
Speaker 2: it just became two dudes bashing heads about shit that
Speaker 2: really and truly neither of us are qualified to speak on,
Speaker 2: and so it just kind of evolved into what it was.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree ravenly, I think is doing great
Speaker 2: as far as the co host position goes. Her perspective
Speaker 2: on things and her background on certain things is I
Speaker 2: think a breath of fresh air to the cults and
Speaker 2: the people. There are certain people that just get down
Speaker 2: with Jonathan and that's cool.
Speaker 1: They have followed him to Meta.
Speaker 2: There are other people that really do enjoy the different
Speaker 2: perspectives and they've stuck around, and yeah, dude, it is.
Speaker 1: It's like a revitalization of.
Speaker 2: The cults of anything. It's definitely not as taking down
Speaker 2: step by any means, No, not.
Speaker 3: At all, brother.
Speaker 4: And I love the dynamic that you guys share with
Speaker 4: one another. Like, if if I could have handpicked somebody,
Speaker 4: it would be raven only now because I see the
Speaker 4: way that you guys have this chemistry with one another
Speaker 4: and bounce each other off and you don't always agree
Speaker 4: and you know, and I was like, oh man, did
Speaker 4: they just get a yes?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: And I'm going to have to stop listening to another
Speaker 4: one of my friends. And I was like, Hey, this
Speaker 4: is actually really good. I like what she brings to
Speaker 4: the table. And I also follow Jonathan because you know,
Speaker 4: so many of us in this so called conspiracy world
Speaker 4: we go through our own stages of awakening, and when
Speaker 4: we're ready to do so you know, so it's it's
Speaker 4: no wonder that we outgrow certain things, you know. The
Speaker 4: White Rabbit podcast started out as more of a geopolitical.
Speaker 3: Leaning type of a show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now and now I'm like into the real
Speaker 4: society reptilians and as.
Speaker 3: Crazy crazy as we can get.
Speaker 4: I'm here for it because it's fun and whatnot, you know,
Speaker 4: And I dip into the geopolitical and everything because I
Speaker 4: think that there's a bit of truth in all of
Speaker 4: this stuff that we look into and you can tie
Speaker 4: it in and the and that is a big reason
Speaker 4: why it was so great to listen to you and
Speaker 4: and Jonathan is because of, like you said, the two
Speaker 4: different sides that you're coming at this with. And you know,
Speaker 4: a piece of paper has two different sides, No, it
Speaker 4: has like six, right, because you can look at it
Speaker 4: from so many different fucking angles.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, I absolutely agree, And I mean and
Speaker 2: you know me, I'm more of a geopolitical minded person.
Speaker 2: Although even with that being said, there is so many
Speaker 2: levels of conspiracy when you're looking at it on a
Speaker 2: geopolitical scale. Take away the American politics for two second,
Speaker 2: just looking at what's going on around the world and
Speaker 2: looking at what's going on in France right now, what's
Speaker 2: going on in Canna right now, what's going on in
Speaker 2: Iran right now. There's multiple levels of geopolitical conversation, and
Speaker 2: then within that there's so many levels of conspiratorial conversation,
Speaker 2: so you can't negate one without the other here. And
Speaker 2: then on top of that, the global elites, I do believe,
Speaker 2: are members of a certain occult society, and they are
Speaker 2: doing things with a very specific intention behind it and
Speaker 2: using certain symbols behind it, and all of these things.
Speaker 2: It's it's an amalgamation of all the above, not a
Speaker 2: one versus another type of thing, you know. So I'm yeah,
Speaker 2: Raven Lee is definitely getting her sea legs about her
Speaker 2: as far as as far as the ship is concerned
Speaker 2: certain things. And that's that's why we chose her, honestly,
Speaker 2: because we were thinking, like, all right, yeah, we could
Speaker 2: have chose a yes man, we could have chose you
Speaker 2: ever seen the WI files, Yeah, of course, of course, right.
Speaker 2: I could have chose somebody to be like the Heckelfish
Speaker 2: and just like had somebody in the background just kind
Speaker 2: of making this the dumb comments from time and time.
Speaker 1: I didn't want that, dude.
Speaker 2: I enjoy conversation, I enjoy back and forth, I enjoy
Speaker 2: being challenged.
Speaker 1: I enjoy challenging others respectfully, of course.
Speaker 2: But I needed somebody that had like multiple levels of
Speaker 2: a chess playing brain to go against certain things, to
Speaker 2: think critically about certain things. And Raven has a very
Speaker 2: conspiratorial mind, albeit one that's more towards environmental and protecting
Speaker 2: the earth kind of things, which I mean, who can
Speaker 2: argue against honestly, And she does have issue with the politics.
Speaker 2: She does not really go down with their Republicans or
Speaker 2: the Democrats on things like that. So yeah, I thought
Speaker 2: this was a very natural fit, and the cult members
Speaker 2: seemed to be really enjoying her.
Speaker 1: Plus, oh my god, she has picked up the ball
Speaker 1: and ran with it.
Speaker 2: As far as the socials are concerned, as far as
Speaker 2: the patreon's concerned, all this, I'm just like, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: thank god, because I hate social media so fucking much, dude,
Speaker 2: it is insane.
Speaker 4: Okay, good now I know who's running that shit, because
Speaker 4: there are some group chats that the Cult of Conspiracy
Speaker 4: is involved in, and one of them is nothing but
Speaker 4: locker room talk. And I'm like, oh man, because I
Speaker 4: knew Jonathan was running that shit in the past, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, some shit's gonna be said in here,
Speaker 4: and if it's her, she's gonna be run off real quick.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, dude, she's a she's a two
Speaker 2: tour combat marine veteran.
Speaker 1: She's You're not gonna run her all from locker room talk,
Speaker 1: that's for sure.
Speaker 2: But to be honest with you, there's a couple of
Speaker 2: group chats that we have on the Instagram.
Speaker 1: I don't know which who is a part of these groups.
Speaker 2: I've I've never really done the DMS as far as
Speaker 2: the as far as the Graham is concerned, or the
Speaker 2: TikTok or anything else. So I'm just like, all right,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: This is so offline? You and I are gonna talk,
Speaker 2: and if we need to be more active in some
Speaker 2: of these group chats, I'm here for it. I just
Speaker 2: don't know, because there's like, no joke five group chats
Speaker 2: that are constantly like somebody's messaging or somebody's doing something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I don't know half of these people,
Speaker 1: Like what is this?
Speaker 2: I don't know who Jonathan added us to at one point,
Speaker 2: so like, yeah, well we'll talk about that shit later
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4: And I'm glad that you bring up, you know, her
Speaker 4: military past it because you guys both have a foundation
Speaker 4: based around well, shit, you guys are both Marines. Yeah
Speaker 4: and so and so that's a great thing that can
Speaker 4: bring you guys back together and stand on the same foundation,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: And so I think that's great and.
Speaker 4: Sucks that I wasn't able to meet her tonight, but
Speaker 4: definitely going to have you guys on the White Rabbit
Speaker 4: podcast sooner than later. Speaking of I mean, we were
Speaker 4: talking a little bit offline, man and climate of infiltration
Speaker 4: and whatnot, and you were saying, it's not just one
Speaker 4: group pulling the strings. And I agree with you, man,
Speaker 4: there's many groups working towards the same common goal. But
Speaker 4: there's a lot of infighting and who is going to
Speaker 4: be sitting at the head of this fucking throwne when
Speaker 4: all is said and done. And I think that we
Speaker 4: need to start, folks seen in our battles, maybe on uh,
Speaker 4: on certain things and that we can change, and maybe
Speaker 4: putting things at the front of the line as a
Speaker 4: far as of importance and what do you see as
Speaker 4: far as of importance right now that we need absolutely
Speaker 4: fucking raise awareness to.
Speaker 3: For me, it would be this digital ID and I
Speaker 3: don't know what yours is.
Speaker 1: Digital idea is definitely up there, right. England is kind.
Speaker 2: Of well, when we talk about England and they're they're
Speaker 2: trying to implement the digital ID forced on their people,
Speaker 2: that's a massive thing that can't be overlooked. But England
Speaker 2: itself has fallen, right there's like a reason why the
Speaker 2: UAE has pulled funding for all their students to go
Speaker 2: to English schools. The United Arab immorants, a Muslim country
Speaker 2: that adheres to Sharia law, is scared of sending their
Speaker 2: young people to English schools because they're afraid they're going
Speaker 2: to be radicalized by those Muslims over there. That that's
Speaker 2: that's a massive thing that I've like not enough people
Speaker 2: are really like understanding. But that's a thing that's so
Speaker 2: England and of itself, the digital id's and all that
Speaker 2: that the entirety of England itself. Hell, they're still debating
Speaker 2: that they're gonna outlaw first cousin marriages right now, and
Speaker 2: one side of the conversation is saying, well, yeah, because
Speaker 2: we don't want a bunch of inbred kids. The other
Speaker 2: side is saying this is racist against people, but they're
Speaker 2: not saying which people they're trying to claim.
Speaker 1: It's racist against the Gypsies. No, it's racist against the
Speaker 1: Muslim immigrants, clearly.
Speaker 2: But then even with the Gypsy conversation, Bro, Candace Owens,
Speaker 2: I don't know how how up to date you are
Speaker 2: on the random shit that old Candace is saying. I've
Speaker 2: been saying for years, for years now, and specifically to
Speaker 2: joke and stir the pot for no other reason.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, y'all.
Speaker 2: Think the Jews are the ones around the world, y know,
Speaker 2: it's the fucking Gypsies. I've been saying this as a
Speaker 2: joke for years. I never meant anything by it ever. Ever, Ever,
Speaker 2: Candace just went on and said that it's actually the
Speaker 2: ashke Nazi Gypsies that are running the world and all
Speaker 2: these things, and I'm like, oh, shut the fuck up, yo.
Speaker 1: I was that. I was joking the whole time. I
Speaker 1: was joking.
Speaker 2: But apparently the great and powerful Canvas Owens has now
Speaker 2: agreed that the Gypsies are the evil cabal running the world.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, what fucking timeline.
Speaker 1: Are we running? I'm tired of this shit.
Speaker 4: No, it is funny the things that we joke about
Speaker 4: that are coming to fruition now. It was I was
Speaker 4: just on a tell all and it was funny because
Speaker 4: I was talking about when I was a kid, and
Speaker 4: people would be like, what do you want to be
Speaker 4: when you grow up? And I would say the most
Speaker 4: astronomical thing that would come to my mind, just to
Speaker 4: be funny, and I would be like, I want to
Speaker 4: be an old Asian lady, as if it's a joke.
Speaker 4: But then there's people like Bruce. There's people like Bruce
Speaker 4: Jenner that like are proving that you could be anything
Speaker 4: you want.
Speaker 1: To be, sure can.
Speaker 4: So it's like these jokes aren't really jokable. They're not
Speaker 4: laugh anymore. It's like, oh, fuck, dude, that's gross, that's funny,
Speaker 4: that's it's funny that it's not funny anymore.
Speaker 1: No, I agree, it's uh.
Speaker 2: The South Park made the joke right the the ghost
Speaker 2: of Michael Jackson had possessed ike Stan's little brother, and
Speaker 2: it's like, well, we have to make him see the light,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And what is that he's
Speaker 2: always wanting to be a little white girl. Okay, great,
Speaker 2: we have to make him a little girl. Say they
Speaker 2: put Ike in a beauty pageant for females, right, and
Speaker 2: if he won, that meant that he was the prettiest
Speaker 2: girl to ever live.
Speaker 1: And that meant that Michael Jackson's soul could see.
Speaker 2: You know, see through to fruition all of his wildest
Speaker 2: dreams and go through the other side.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 2: That was all supposed to be a joke. That was
Speaker 2: all done in jests. But in twenty twenty six, that
Speaker 2: is no longer a joke. That's no longer jest, and
Speaker 2: now we have like, yeah, yeah, this is this is
Speaker 2: the world we're currently living in.
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna tie that in a little bit, brother,
Speaker 4: because you were you were talking about canvas owens and
Speaker 4: I'm saying, you know, you can now be anything you want.
Speaker 4: And she's going heavy on Macron and now there's everybody
Speaker 4: saying that she's big Mike fucking Junior, and it's like, no,
Speaker 4: the rabbit holes that we live in these days. Oh, bro,
Speaker 4: you haven't heard this one yet.
Speaker 1: I have not. Wait, Candace is a dude.
Speaker 3: That's what everybody's saying.
Speaker 2: Bro, Bro, okay, educate all the good cult members right now,
Speaker 2: because I haven't heard this one.
Speaker 1: I'm so fucking down with this.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, bro, I've lot this one.
Speaker 4: I've laughed this one off just like you're doing right now.
Speaker 4: And I really I'm gonna be honest with the cult members.
Speaker 4: I haven't given it that much time of day. But
Speaker 4: I will say a lot of these rabbit holes that
Speaker 4: I don't give it that much time of day is
Speaker 4: because there's some validity to these things that will get
Speaker 4: you trapped in these rabbit holes will ultimately lead to nothing.
Speaker 4: And so you know, I've heard some of the evidence
Speaker 4: to back it up, Like the Adams Apple she she
Speaker 4: was a boy actor, a boy acting name or some shit.
Speaker 4: There's no pictures of the kids or her pregnant, kind
Speaker 4: of like the big mic thing, and I'm like, what
Speaker 4: a fucking plot twist would that be? She's calling out
Speaker 4: Macron's wife and then it ends up that she's running
Speaker 4: around with Dangleberry's.
Speaker 1: For the record, I don't disagree. I think Macrome might
Speaker 1: be a dude. Just so we're all on the same
Speaker 1: page here, Like, Yo, Bragie mcrome very well might be
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trogno, where the fuck his long lost uncle is
Speaker 1: and I'm like, there's some shit there. I'm not negating that.
Speaker 2: And it's also crazy, especially when you talk about Big Mike,
Speaker 2: how much of the media is like before this ever
Speaker 2: came to light, the media tried saying that Michelle Obama
Speaker 2: was like the most gorgeous woman, the woman all women
Speaker 2: should aspire to be. That is a fuggly ass chick.
Speaker 2: If that is a dude. If that's a chick. Right,
Speaker 2: But then you can see her on Ellen and some
Speaker 2: kind of meat candle is slapping her thigh when she's
Speaker 2: dancing on ellen Degenerous show, And I was like, yo,
Speaker 2: I've been saying that that's a that's a dude.
Speaker 1: That's funny. Then you look at old uh you know
Speaker 1: Bridge Eat. I could see it. I could absolutely see it.
Speaker 1: Also see it.
Speaker 2: There's one other one, is it the uh not the
Speaker 2: Belgium God, there's one other first lady from Europe that's like, bro,
Speaker 2: that that is a dude.
Speaker 1: It's not even like trying to make it look like
Speaker 1: it's not a dude. It's it's horrible, but whatever.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Croatia's president is doing bikini spreads and that's a
Speaker 2: fucking dime. But like all the things whatever cut too,
Speaker 2: the one calling it all out.
Speaker 1: Would be Candace.
Speaker 2: That'd be the best plot twist if come to find
Speaker 2: out Canas got a big old dick going between them,
Speaker 2: that'd be hilarious.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, talk about it. I didn't see that
Speaker 4: one coming that. That's the one where the meme is like,
Speaker 4: who had Candace owns with something between the legs for January?
Speaker 2: Bro, we have a bingo card on the cultic conspiracy
Speaker 2: that was not on the bingo card. God, I wonder
Speaker 2: if we can find a way to like swap one
Speaker 2: of the squares out. It's already locked in for the year,
Speaker 2: but man, that would that would be fucking hilarious. And
Speaker 2: also Nick Quintes actually being a girl, I'm on board
Speaker 2: with that. I think he actually doesn't have a penis.
Speaker 1: I'm good with that.
Speaker 4: I mean, are we just saying that all of these
Speaker 4: influencers that have taken center stage are female or male?
Speaker 4: That are I mean, why don't we just go with
Speaker 4: our original right? And I'm gonna be honest with you, bro,
Speaker 4: like I'm having a hard time digesting one of these
Speaker 4: and now that it's been mentioned to me, I can't
Speaker 4: unsee it.
Speaker 3: I asked this woman to.
Speaker 4: Marry me at one point, and she said, I am
Speaker 4: taking applications. This woman's name is Kesha, and I canno
Speaker 4: see it now.
Speaker 2: Kesha, Oh, Kesha, we're talking about the pop singer.
Speaker 1: Correct, yes, okay, make it sure.
Speaker 3: Wait, Wite in the morning's feeling like p Diddy.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, you were also the one and correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: That was talking to the girl that was on the plane, right,
Speaker 2: uh oh uh oh.
Speaker 4: She bought me these Jordans because these are the Jordans
Speaker 4: that I wanted ever since I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Catalyst, otherfucker your plane.
Speaker 4: The airplane lady is a huge sneaker head, and we
Speaker 4: were talking about sneakers and she fucking sent these to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, So for everybody who may not be aware, everybody
Speaker 2: who may for whatever reason, is your first time hearing
Speaker 2: the great and powerful Catalyst Jones, if you will take
Speaker 2: a little journey back in time just a few years.
Speaker 2: You remember there was this white woman on a plane
Speaker 2: that was losing her mind, crying, very very frantic, saying that.
Speaker 1: Person is not real and I'm getting off this. It
Speaker 1: was a whole thing.
Speaker 2: The motherfucking lady on the motherfucking plane was a whole thing, right,
Speaker 2: and you fuck that, I am telling you right now. God, motherfucker, God,
Speaker 2: motherfucker back there.
Speaker 3: Is not real.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes.
Speaker 2: And so we were talking about this a good while back,
Speaker 2: and catalysts somehow you would slid into her dms and
Speaker 2: everybody was curious if it was it was a bot account,
Speaker 2: was it real?
Speaker 1: Were you actually talking to her? Whatever?
Speaker 2: And apparently not only was it real, not only do
Speaker 2: you have real correspondence with her?
Speaker 1: She done bought you some Jay's dog.
Speaker 3: Uh she it goes fur in that So I live.
Speaker 4: I if my drapes weren't closed, I would see Tahoe
Speaker 4: like the peak is right outside my window. And she
Speaker 4: was skiing last not this last winter, but the winter
Speaker 4: where everything popped off and she was still popular and
Speaker 4: invited me to go skiing snowboarding with her.
Speaker 3: Now, before everybody gets all like, holy.
Speaker 4: Shit, you went snowboarding with fucking Tiffany Gomez, no guys,
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't have the money to do it.
Speaker 4: I didn't have the money to do it, and I
Speaker 4: was too embarrassed to tell her. That's why I forget.
Speaker 4: I made up some excuse and I didn't go. It sucks,
Speaker 4: but goddamn, and she does owe me and promises she will.
Speaker 3: Be on The White Rabbit very sood. So guys, keep
Speaker 3: your eyes Fieled.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: If you get her on your show, give her our
Speaker 2: contact info. I would love to have her on our
Speaker 2: show as well, but I want you to get yours
Speaker 2: first for sure.
Speaker 4: For sure, of course, brother, And if she's willing to
Speaker 4: go on other shows, you're absolutely gonna get that. Get
Speaker 4: that info and the nod that yeah, these are some
Speaker 4: good yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, So wait, you're still in current contact with Tiffany Gomez.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say like on a regular basis. I would
Speaker 4: say like once every other week.
Speaker 2: God damn, dude, that's legit. She actually bought you some Jordans.
Speaker 2: That's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yes, dude, I'm super excited.
Speaker 4: Not only that, it's like the Jordans that I wanted
Speaker 4: when I was in like fifth grade and didn't have
Speaker 4: the money when I was a kid. So they've always
Speaker 4: been like this thing to me. Yeah, and now I
Speaker 4: have them and they've been in the box ever since. Man,
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna wear them that's just their too nostalgic.
Speaker 4: I'm actually probably gonna get them like wrap shrink wraps
Speaker 4: so they don't like get old and worn.
Speaker 1: I fucking love this so much.
Speaker 2: For any of the cult members, I don't like to
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Speaker 1: Listen, we hear you, We hear you.
Speaker 2: Merch has been slacking on our end, but as of
Speaker 2: this moment, literally, Ravenlee and I just had a meeting
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Speaker 2: All right, now, back to the conversation here. So I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that Candice Owns is a dude.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that she is not a dude.
Speaker 2: I'm saying this conversation is fucking hilarious. And you know,
Speaker 2: the irony is not lost on me.
Speaker 4: Okay, well you threw me off when you said that
Speaker 4: Nick Flintes could possibly be born female and.
Speaker 1: It's a feminine looking douce.
Speaker 3: Sucked in.
Speaker 4: I got sucked in for a little bit and I
Speaker 4: had a video go viral on Instagram, hit like three
Speaker 4: point seven million views, and all it was was Nick
Speaker 4: flint Is drinking a hold in a cup of coffee,
Speaker 4: takes a sip and he says the Jews, and then
Speaker 4: I cut it. It was not even five seconds long.
Speaker 4: That shit took off. And so me being the fucking
Speaker 4: conspiracy theorist that I have, and I've dove down every
Speaker 4: possible rabbit hole that is imaginable, and.
Speaker 3: A lot of these rabbit holes lead back to Israel.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying the Jews as in your next
Speaker 4: door neighbor jew and the people that we talk about
Speaker 4: as you're loving next door neighbor.
Speaker 3: That's not who I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about these evil cabal's people that pretend to
Speaker 4: be Jewish and they use this as a blanket and
Speaker 4: they get behind this event, tragic event that is we
Speaker 4: don't need to get into that, but a tragic event
Speaker 4: that could or could not have taken place, and they
Speaker 4: use that to manipulate and insert themselves as the victim
Speaker 4: and be like, I gain a little bit of power.
Speaker 4: I gain a little power here. I get a little
Speaker 4: bit of power here that is undeniable. Now the fact
Speaker 4: that it's every Jew and they're all evil and they
Speaker 4: all have this sick, twisted plot and Goy is bad.
Speaker 4: They want to kill every white Christian. That is not
Speaker 4: the case, and that is a very dangerous slippery slope
Speaker 4: to go down. And the fact that they are pushing
Speaker 4: people like Nick Flointe's front and center should tell you
Speaker 4: something that hey, they want us to see this narrative.
Speaker 4: There's something behind this. Let's look a little bit more
Speaker 4: into this, because, like I said, I was guilty. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 4: that's right, most of these roads lead back to Israel.
Speaker 4: But then you start looking at the rhetoric. Who's it
Speaker 4: coming from? Where did this guy even come from? This
Speaker 4: guy's claiming to be America first, but there's video footage
Speaker 4: of him at the Capitol on January sixth telling people
Speaker 4: to go inside.
Speaker 3: Who are these people? Where did they come from?
Speaker 1: See?
Speaker 4: Why do they have such a big following. I've been
Speaker 4: podcasting for a long time. I've had Grammy nominated musicians
Speaker 4: on my show. I've had Oscar Award winning or nominated.
Speaker 4: Tommy Chong has been on my show. I've had I've
Speaker 4: had on twice. Fucking UFC. It doesn't matter. Like UFC,
Speaker 4: what's the word.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for?
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame championships, you know, like
Speaker 4: hall of famers. On my fucking show. You can have
Speaker 4: the best of the best guests on. You could have
Speaker 4: the best graphics. I'm not saying I'm a great host,
Speaker 4: but I don't think i'm a shitty host, right for sure.
Speaker 4: I think I could hold my own with some of
Speaker 4: these people that are put in the spotlight. They're put
Speaker 4: in the spot for a fucking reason.
Speaker 3: You guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree what they're pushing. I agree one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. And again I'm talking shit. As far as
Speaker 2: I think Nick Flintes is actually a female, right, I
Speaker 2: do know he's gay, like he's gay as aides, that's
Speaker 2: not even a debatable topic at this point. That man
Speaker 2: has never seen a vagina, and if he has, he
Speaker 2: probably fucking curled up and was like eh at the
Speaker 2: thought of it. He's clearly like gay, if not flamboyantly bisexual.
Speaker 1: Whatever who he takes to bed is not my concern.
Speaker 2: But what I will say is, if nothing else, if
Speaker 2: nothing else about Nick Flintes rings a bell and raises
Speaker 2: a red flag January sixth alone, there were so many
Speaker 2: people that were arrested four jan six Meanwhile, he was
Speaker 2: out there in a certain regard leading a charge on
Speaker 2: jan sixth. Not only did he not face any kind
Speaker 2: of legal repercussions, he started to blow up in a
Speaker 2: certain regard, and now he's.
Speaker 1: Literally a geopolitical Paul Brother.
Speaker 2: He is saying the most controversial takes, saying the most
Speaker 2: hate filled statements just to get clicks because in the
Speaker 2: algorithm world, hate clicks and love clicks pay the same.
Speaker 2: So he, along with Candace for the record, are saying
Speaker 2: the most outlandiship. Candace is going on saying that Charlie
Speaker 2: is coming to her in multiple dreams, and that is
Speaker 2: the basis that she's using to say that she knows
Speaker 2: what happened to him out loud. Most people would be
Speaker 2: brought to a psych ward for such things, but because
Speaker 2: she's Candace, she's whatever Nick Fuintes is over here loudly
Speaker 2: proclaiming that fucking a fifteen year old doesn't make you
Speaker 2: a pedophile. It's that's not why Epstein was brought down
Speaker 2: to why he's so critical.
Speaker 1: It's because he was a Mussad ass set.
Speaker 2: It's not because of fifteen year olds, because fifteen, like
Speaker 2: I mean, that's barely a pedophile.
Speaker 1: That is Nick Fuintes's words. You can go look it
Speaker 1: up now.
Speaker 4: If anything, being a Massad asset would have kept his head.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right. And I think that there's truth to
Speaker 2: both sides of this. Yes, he was a pedophile.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying he wasn't a Massad agent.
Speaker 4: He right, don't get me wrong. He absolutely was, there's
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that he was a Mussat asset. I
Speaker 2: think that he also was an asset for our CIA.
Speaker 2: I think he was an asset for whatever the KGB became.
Speaker 2: I think he was an asset for the CCP. I
Speaker 2: think he was an asset for Interpol pretty much anybody
Speaker 2: that needed dirt on anybody, Jeff was your guy. On
Speaker 2: top of all of that, Yes, he was also a
Speaker 2: pedophile that needed to be thrown underneath the jail.
Speaker 1: These two things can be true. At the same time.
Speaker 2: But again, Nick Flintes would tell you so many other things,
Speaker 2: and that's yeah, he's and he's been caught so many
Speaker 2: times having gay porn on his browser as he's going live,
Speaker 2: and like he's yoh, yeah, he'll try to click over
Speaker 2: to another page and like you'll see, like the last
Speaker 2: few things he looked up was like tranny porn and
Speaker 2: then gay porn. And it's like he tries saying, well,
Speaker 2: that was for a bit. That was because I was
Speaker 2: looking up something for a thing. No it fuck, it wasn't. No,
Speaker 2: the fuck it wasn't. If you would tell me that
Speaker 2: was a one time thing. Maybe he's been caught like
Speaker 2: five fucking times with having that in his search history
Speaker 2: because your boy doesn't understand how to clear his history
Speaker 2: before he presses record.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he'd be gooning in the same studio that
Speaker 2: he shoots in that it blows.
Speaker 1: My mind, But whatever, do you, homie?
Speaker 3: But yeah, well he was.
Speaker 4: He was groomed and brought up to be put into
Speaker 4: this position as most of these people are at at
Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson, you know, his dad's CIA. Yep, And then
Speaker 4: he magically forgot about that when he was asked about
Speaker 4: it last year. Yeah, dude, you know there's you know,
Speaker 4: he thrived to be like his father. And I'm just
Speaker 4: saying I'm using him as an example because he was
Speaker 4: a part of the media conglomerates as like the mainstream
Speaker 4: Back then we would call it the mainstream media. Right now,
Speaker 4: I call it corporate media, And he was part of
Speaker 4: the corporate media. Hand And the CIA isn't stupid when
Speaker 4: it comes to the Internet, because I wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: put it past them to have created and brought it out,
Speaker 4: brought it out to us to begin with, so they
Speaker 4: knew the manipulation that they would be able to have
Speaker 4: with it as far as feeding false information with real
Speaker 4: information and being able to mold people and persuade them
Speaker 4: in what ways they want. And in knowing that, they
Speaker 4: knew that during COVID was their way to break apart.
Speaker 4: Who was going to still be stuck on these corporate
Speaker 4: media things and then who is going to break off
Speaker 4: into these alternative media is where we can get trusted sources.
Speaker 4: So now you have people that have gotten fired from
Speaker 4: Fox and now they're alternative media, and hey, I can
Speaker 4: trust them. They got fired from corporate media, and they
Speaker 4: were telling us the truth about COVID, So now I
Speaker 4: can tell now I can lean on them for this.
Speaker 4: And then we have all these people that are claiming
Speaker 4: to use discernment because they're listening to alternative media, and
Speaker 4: really all they're doing is they're just taking their dumb
Speaker 4: their dumb ears and taking it from somebody else and
Speaker 4: taking it and putting it on somebody else that they
Speaker 4: think that they can trust. And they're really just giving
Speaker 4: their trust to the same people with the same ulterariuve
Speaker 4: motive behind it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, what's your take on Tucker? Right,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that swear by him.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that hate him. Just
Speaker 2: in recent in the last week, dude, I will I
Speaker 2: will be generous.
Speaker 1: In say, the last two weeks, the Iranian state TV
Speaker 1: have quoted Tucker Carlson. Just I'm gonna say this in
Speaker 1: a certain.
Speaker 2: Way because I want the good people to hear this
Speaker 2: and fully grasp this. The Ayatola of Iran who runs
Speaker 2: the country as of this moment, this is the same
Speaker 2: guy that has said death to Israel, death to America,
Speaker 2: death to Europe. And it's not just because of the
Speaker 2: Islamic cabal and the Israeli cabal. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no. This guy hates anything of the Western world.
Speaker 2: He's been very loud and proud about it. He has
Speaker 2: been very clear that he wants to bomb Israel, America
Speaker 2: and Europe. Okay, that guy currently has Tucker Carlson running
Speaker 2: on State TV. And Tucker Carlson doesn't see a problem
Speaker 2: with this. Yes, I understand that he feels some type
Speaker 2: of way towards Net and Yahoo, and you know what,
Speaker 2: in a certain regard, I can agree with some of
Speaker 2: these things. I think the Net Yah, who's a massive
Speaker 2: piece of shit. I think it doesn't take much cognitive
Speaker 2: function to understand that, right, But to say.
Speaker 3: That and needs to die.
Speaker 4: He's probably the worst human being on the planet at
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: And that's fair, that's fine, that's fine, right, But Tucker
Speaker 2: Carlson went from being the Fox News baby to doing
Speaker 2: his own thing, quote unquote, just like you're saying now.
Speaker 2: He's a podcaster. He's not mainstream media. He's indie. He's
Speaker 2: his own thing. Even though he is regurgitating so much
Speaker 2: information that currently one of America's biggest enemies. And by
Speaker 2: the right, I understand people are gonna say, Jacob, you
Speaker 2: know you're saying Ron's the biggest enemy.
Speaker 1: What are they gonna do to us?
Speaker 2: The fact that they want death to all Americans, not Republican,
Speaker 2: not Democrat, not white, not black, they want death to
Speaker 2: all Americans. That's what the Ayatola has been saying four decades,
Speaker 2: loud and proud, and currently Tucker Carlson is running on
Speaker 2: their twenty four hour news channel. That should be a
Speaker 2: massive fucking red flag to people, and people are just
Speaker 2: not even acknowledging this. What is your take on Tucker, dude?
Speaker 4: Well, my take on Tucker is, I mean, you got
Speaker 4: a pretty good rundown of what I just said from
Speaker 4: from there. He basically took the torch and ran with it.
Speaker 4: So he's a major CIA asset. Yeah, and he is.
Speaker 4: He's a he's a paid provocateur, right, He's out there
Speaker 4: to stir the pot. He's gonna give you a lot
Speaker 4: of truth mixed in with a lot of propaganda, just
Speaker 4: like any other news source. Is My take with him
Speaker 4: is he still openly wears his red bracelet. I mean though,
Speaker 4: so I I what's that Ian Carroll, Oh the red bracelet. Well,
Speaker 4: I mean I Ian Carroll came out of nowhere as well, right,
Speaker 4: Ian Carroll came out of nowhere saying the same things
Speaker 4: that you and I were saying and then got platformed
Speaker 4: on Joe Rogan while you and I were taking off
Speaker 4: of platforms, okay. And that's and that's another thing is
Speaker 4: it's okay to talk about these things now. We needed
Speaker 4: them silenced during COVID for some reason.
Speaker 3: I don't know why that was.
Speaker 4: But now all these people are popping up out of
Speaker 4: nowhere that are being platformed for saying the things that
Speaker 4: we're getting taken us down. And I want to and
Speaker 4: I want to bring this up as well, Like we
Speaker 4: were talking about Nick Flintes, okay. And so people will
Speaker 4: be like, well, he's not even allowed on YouTube. You know,
Speaker 4: Joe Rogan has had him on. Okay, he's not allowed
Speaker 4: on YouTube. His clips are all YouTube, Okay, Joe Rogan
Speaker 4: hasn't had him on. He's brought up on Joe Rogan
Speaker 4: all the time. If you listen to these things, what
Speaker 4: he's talking about is getting to you in one way
Speaker 4: or another. That's why I love these people that used
Speaker 4: to call him out during the whole left versus right
Speaker 4: and and be like, well, I don't even watch the news. Well,
Speaker 4: the propaganda still leaks to you somehow, okay. And these
Speaker 4: are the ways that it does through social media, through
Speaker 4: people that believe these people or say, hey, this person's
Speaker 4: telling me the truth. They start sharing shit and it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I trust what this person says, he shared this person.
Speaker 4: I'm guilty of this. As the White Rabbit podcast, I
Speaker 4: share things. People that follow me expect me to share
Speaker 4: the truth with them. I'm wrong a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's fair, right, We're all trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what the actual truth is, and even we get
Speaker 1: caught up into it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: We try to find sources that we can trust, but then, sadly,
Speaker 2: more often than not, our sources give it another year,
Speaker 2: give it two years. Come to find out our source,
Speaker 2: we're being bought and paid for the entire fucking time.
Speaker 2: And that's that's also something that I don't even know
Speaker 2: about Alex Jones currently. I want to hold true to
Speaker 2: some sort of a belief that Alex Jones might still
Speaker 2: be in it for the love of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's making money, no doubt, no doubt. But I believe
Speaker 2: that he believes what he talks about, but then there
Speaker 2: are so many examples of him talking out of both
Speaker 2: sides of his mouth. There are so many examples of
Speaker 2: him going off the rails onto something and then the
Speaker 2: next episode completely negating what he just said the episode prior,
Speaker 2: whatever the case I mean, and then you see uh
Speaker 2: oh a Frock what's his name? The guy that just
Speaker 2: got killed one of his staff last year, right, And
Speaker 2: I do believe that there are forces that work there.
Speaker 2: Tried into silence groups like info Wars, but even he
Speaker 2: I feel like, in a certain regard might be bought
Speaker 2: and paid for. And it's it's we're living in a
Speaker 2: day and age where you how deeply can you trust
Speaker 2: that quote unquote source that they did their due diligence
Speaker 2: to the nth degree to where you can take what
Speaker 2: they're saying as truth versus a hot take opinion that
Speaker 2: is based in nothing. The same with Candace if you've
Speaker 2: listened to her for the last year, every single thing
Speaker 2: she says about Charlie Kirk, She's always like, I have
Speaker 2: my sources. I can't talk about them, but like one
Speaker 2: day I will blah blah, bup up and then she'll
Speaker 2: say the most outland of shit. She never names a source,
Speaker 2: and people don't understand this is a trick. This is
Speaker 2: a trick that.
Speaker 1: Media heads will use.
Speaker 2: An example, right, if you don't know what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: or if what you're about to say something that most
Speaker 2: people don't believe, all you have to say is quote,
Speaker 2: you know a lot of people are saying dot dot dot,
Speaker 2: or I have certain sources that are saying dot dot
Speaker 2: dot just to stir the pot.
Speaker 1: And people are like, see, she knows what she's talking about.
Speaker 2: And it's like you're you're falling for the same bait
Speaker 2: and switch tactic to CNN and five have been running
Speaker 2: for decades. Now it's just on a podcast rather than
Speaker 2: on cable TV. So somehow this makes it more legitimate
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't you know.
Speaker 4: Oh, and they're saving so much money. So now they're
Speaker 4: throwing thousands of dollars at these studios for these people
Speaker 4: instead of these million dollars studios like Fox, CNN and
Speaker 4: whatnot to feed you this propaganda. And they're they're doing
Speaker 4: it through the lens of just your average day Joe
Speaker 4: blow and and that's not the case. You know, and
Speaker 4: I'm glad that we kind of went this way because
Speaker 4: recently I had on Justin Leslie and he's he was
Speaker 4: a whistleblower for Project from Project Veritas, and when he
Speaker 4: got the when he got the job at Project Veritas,
Speaker 4: he already was going down some rabbit holes and had
Speaker 4: a more moral issue with going to work for this company.
Speaker 4: And it was right before they were rolling out the vaccines,
Speaker 4: and so he got a hold of Project Veritas and
Speaker 4: they contacted him, got him in touch with James O'Keeffe
Speaker 4: and everything, and was like, yo, go undercover work for us.
Speaker 4: We'll give you the camera equipment, blah blah blah. And
Speaker 4: so he did that for over a year. He was
Speaker 4: working undercover, filming everything he was doing under the microscope,
Speaker 4: had the glowing vials before it even came out, bro
Speaker 4: before that they even released the vaccines. He had this shit,
Speaker 4: was giving it to James O'Keefe and Project Veritas. They
Speaker 4: were smuggling it across fucking state lines to get it
Speaker 4: to each other. And like, this guy was putting himself
Speaker 4: in danger this whole time, just so that James O'Keeffe
Speaker 4: can say, we're not going to put this out. So
Speaker 4: basically what they did is they got a bunch of
Speaker 4: these people like Justin to work and think that they're
Speaker 4: being whistleblowers and doing the right thing, and basically they
Speaker 4: were being cute trust the plan while they were just silenced,
Speaker 4: thinking that they're doing something to help and nothing is
Speaker 4: ever going to come of it. And then so he's
Speaker 4: like pissed. He's like, yo, dude, you guys like could
Speaker 4: have saved so many people. I had this information before
Speaker 4: the vaccines were even released. And they were like, well's
Speaker 4: red tape, you know, because like we had to smuggle
Speaker 4: it across state lines.
Speaker 3: We didn't want to go to prison.
Speaker 4: And Justin's like, I don't give a fuck about I'll
Speaker 4: go to prison for the rest of my life. We
Speaker 4: could have saved so many people, right and right, and
Speaker 4: so they just kept stringing him along and then he
Speaker 4: goes he.
Speaker 3: Works for Project Veritas.
Speaker 4: Lee's Pfizer, and then he's the one that like blew
Speaker 4: up the story where he had the guy, I don't
Speaker 4: forget what company he had another Pfizer went on a
Speaker 4: gay date with this dude, and they made this big
Speaker 4: fucking thing about it, but really nothing it was.
Speaker 3: It was like nothing.
Speaker 4: It was they got this guy to admit that they
Speaker 4: manipulate some shit when Justin actually had a fucking smoking gun, right,
Speaker 4: and so he's pissed. Project Veritas breaks up because James.
Speaker 4: Everybody's figuring out that James o'keef is kind of a
Speaker 4: piece of shit, and so James o'keef starts Keith Media
Speaker 4: o'keef Media Group, and Leslie's like, look, if I want
Speaker 4: to get this footage that I spent all this time
Speaker 4: getting and gathering, I gotta follow James O'Keefe. And so
Speaker 4: he's being a double agent now and he's like, fuck
Speaker 4: James O'Keefe, but at the same time he's working for
Speaker 4: him so he can get this shit. Man. This guy
Speaker 4: recorded James doing so much fucked up shit, bro, and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell tell everybody listening to this right now,
Speaker 4: James o'keef went to Bohemian Grove with Charlie Kirk and
Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson and we got this on fucking audio.
Speaker 3: Like he's he's got the phone call.
Speaker 4: Where James is like, man, and I heard you mad
Speaker 4: that I went to Bohemian Grove and blah blah, dude, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're damn right, I'm mad.
Speaker 3: I'm going on the White Rabbit podcast. I'm telling everybody.
Speaker 2: So I had heard that Tucker had gone to Bohemian,
Speaker 2: I didn't know about Kirk. Is this is this a
Speaker 2: factual statement.
Speaker 4: So whether or not Kirk was there is not verified.
Speaker 4: That he is on the attendee list is verified.
Speaker 2: So at least he got the invite. Whether he accepted
Speaker 2: or not is beside the point. He was sent the invite.
Speaker 2: He was tapped on the shoulder, so to speak. Correct,
Speaker 2: Damn I had no idea. Now with James O'Keefe, that's
Speaker 2: another great example, somebody that a lot of people would say, Oh,
Speaker 2: he's he's off into the you know, he's in the weeds,
Speaker 2: he's he's down a certain rabbit hole. We can't trust him.
Speaker 2: Then wait a minute, he's got exclusive footage of Epstein Island,
Speaker 2: so maybe we can trust him. And then you see
Speaker 2: the O'Keeffe media group as opposed to what he was
Speaker 2: doing before, and it's like, all right, where where is
Speaker 2: the line in the sand actually.
Speaker 1: Drawn with this guy? Is it? Where are you at
Speaker 1: with him?
Speaker 2: Do you think he's also a piece of shit that's
Speaker 2: been bought or do you think that he kind of
Speaker 2: got roped into some shit that he didn't realize until later.
Speaker 1: What do you think? Honestly, I'm I'm kind of in
Speaker 1: the gray on this one.
Speaker 4: He was searching for stardom from the very beginning. He
Speaker 4: was trying to get his way in through rapping, just
Speaker 4: much like Stu Peters and doing like music videos and whatnot.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 1: James O'Keefe was rapping.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I think even had some run ins with
Speaker 4: the law. I believe that during his incarceration is probably
Speaker 4: when he was approached molded into what he is now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the reason why.
Speaker 4: Project Veritas split with James O'Keeffe who found it and
Speaker 4: created it, and is because the people behind that that group,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying all of them, because a lot of
Speaker 4: them were pieces of shit, but there were some people
Speaker 4: in there that actually still had good morals and ethical
Speaker 4: values and they didn't want anything to do with James O'Keeffe,
Speaker 4: which that they pushed him out of his pushed him
Speaker 4: out of his own company, which is a.
Speaker 2: Pretty big telltale sign, right whenever you have people that
Speaker 2: want to get involved with what somebody's trying to do
Speaker 2: because they feel like it's for the right purpose and
Speaker 2: for the right reasons. Cut to they are putting a
Speaker 2: lot of distance between them and that person before certain
Speaker 2: things come to light. That's that's a pretty big red
Speaker 2: flag to me personally, I mean.
Speaker 4: Right, and you know, and talking to Justin, it's crazy
Speaker 4: and you guys can go watch he has a story out.
Speaker 3: I believe it's on Rumble.
Speaker 4: He did a documentary about it, and it's amazing. It's
Speaker 4: really good. I wish Hitler would have done it. It would
Speaker 4: have done it would have been done a lot better.
Speaker 4: But you get all the information that you need from
Speaker 4: watching this, and all the questions that I'm forgetting to
Speaker 4: answer are to bring up right now. I mean, you
Speaker 4: guys are gonna watch this and still be blown away,
Speaker 4: even though I've dropped a lot, you.
Speaker 2: Know, no doubt, damn and honestly to say that they're
Speaker 2: all in on it, and I know that that we're
Speaker 2: conspiracy heads, so that's.
Speaker 1: Kind of our jam. Right. But do you know who
Speaker 1: John christ is?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: But I probably should right because.
Speaker 1: He's a He's a Christian comedian, right.
Speaker 2: He got big doing like viral clips making fun of
Speaker 2: different types of modern Christian denominations and things like that.
Speaker 2: And I like his content as far as being a
Speaker 2: comedian goes and even poking fun at our own faith,
Speaker 2: I think that that's needed. I think the humor is
Speaker 2: rather important to bring up certain topics that are a
Speaker 2: little uncomfortable. Right, So fair play on that. He got
Speaker 2: invited this past Christmas to a big I'm gonna use
Speaker 2: this term very broadly here a Christian content creator Christmas party, right,
Speaker 2: and big names are there, Tucker Carlson, Russell's Russell Brand,
Speaker 2: Candice Owens TP USA execs like, there's so many people here,
Speaker 2: and you would the usual exactly right, and you would
Speaker 2: think that just off of the names that I just listed,
Speaker 2: there'd be some tension. There might there might be some drama,
Speaker 2: there might be some This person sitting in this corner.
Speaker 2: This person is sitting in a corner across the way,
Speaker 2: and nobody's talking, nobody, not even a little bit.
Speaker 1: Everybody was homies. They took pictures together.
Speaker 2: Candice Owens and the head of Turning Point USA, who
Speaker 2: out loud in the public are butting heads.
Speaker 1: And right, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: At this Christmas party, they were having some drinks, they
Speaker 2: were cutting up, They were homies. Right, the same thing
Speaker 2: with all of these other people that you would think
Speaker 2: out loud would be very anti each other. We're all
Speaker 2: at this party and they're all homies. And if somebody
Speaker 2: is familiar with how politics works, or even lawyers for example,
Speaker 2: because I mean the two are connected.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, you'll see.
Speaker 2: These two lawyers who will be against each other in
Speaker 2: a case because they were hired by different clients, and
Speaker 2: they will.
Speaker 1: I'm talking.
Speaker 2: There is no no stops, there is no line that
Speaker 2: won't be crossed. They are calling out this person's fucking
Speaker 2: mama on the fucking mic. Right, they're here for it.
Speaker 2: Then as soon as the judge slams the gavel and
Speaker 2: the thing is done, they're gonna.
Speaker 1: Go wrap drinks. Afterwards, you're gonna go have some dinner.
Speaker 2: Because that was that was work. That's work. That's a
Speaker 2: different place than the real world. These lawyers are not.
Speaker 1: Actually against each other.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: I've been through two divorces.
Speaker 2: I can tell you both times that my ex wife
Speaker 2: and I were we had these lawyers. They were homies,
Speaker 2: they knew each other, and they were friends outside of
Speaker 2: that courtroom. But in the court room, oh, I'm here
Speaker 2: to fight for you and about whatever. The politicians are
Speaker 2: the same way. Whether they wrap a red shirt or
Speaker 2: a blue shirt, it doesn't fucking matter. They will get
Speaker 2: on the mic and they will talk mad shit about
Speaker 2: each other, make it seem like they hate each other.
Speaker 2: And then as soon as they leave the Capitol Building,
Speaker 2: you know they're going to the same bar, They're going
Speaker 2: to the same place to go grab a steak dinner,
Speaker 2: like they're actually homies. Outside of all this, there's a
Speaker 2: show and there's reality, right, the same.
Speaker 3: Well there's happening. It's the game, it's the show. It
Speaker 3: is what it is.
Speaker 4: We can take this to professional sports as well. Right,
Speaker 4: it's the same thing you put on that jersey. But
Speaker 4: if you think that Tom Brady and Peyton Manning weren't
Speaker 4: having phone calls talking about other teams and having beers
Speaker 4: on the off season, then you're sadly mistaken because these
Speaker 4: guys are not bitter rivals. They're they're feeding off of
Speaker 4: one another. And when they it's like professional wrestling, you say,
Speaker 4: need to heel we rapping rapping, same thing. You think
Speaker 4: that NAS and jay Z really had fucking beef with
Speaker 4: each other. We can even take it to another level,
Speaker 4: you think that Tupac and Biggie really had beef with
Speaker 4: each other. Man, it's all fun and games to sell records.
Speaker 4: Now there are gangsters and there could be some wife
Speaker 4: fucking going on.
Speaker 2: And sometimes and sometimes you get these people that don't
Speaker 2: understand that it's a game. Right, look at young Dolf right,
Speaker 2: perfect example. Some people didn't understand that the microphone of
Speaker 2: real world is not the same thing, and he got
Speaker 2: got right there. There are some actors out there that
Speaker 2: don't understand that, like, no, no, there's a score here.
Speaker 1: We're doing this to hype up record sales. It's a
Speaker 1: part of the game.
Speaker 4: And and let's and let's bring that to another level
Speaker 4: here now, it's it's part. It's part of the game.
Speaker 4: We've got to hype everybody up. And then people don't
Speaker 4: realize that it's a game. And then they find themselves
Speaker 4: behind the fucking wheel of a suv getting shot at
Speaker 4: by an ice officer, ycause they didn't realize that this
Speaker 4: is all part of the show and they're collateral.
Speaker 3: Damage now, yep.
Speaker 4: And they were brainwashed and manipulated into this position because
Speaker 4: we're fed this shit constantly so that our body is
Speaker 4: always in flight or fight mode, and we're not making
Speaker 4: rass decisions.
Speaker 3: And what do we always see in the news.
Speaker 4: It's usually these and I hate to say that this
Speaker 4: is right versus left thing, because it's not a right
Speaker 4: versus left thing. You usually see middle aged white liberal
Speaker 4: women in the news front and center during these type
Speaker 4: of things, being justice warriors. And look what happened here, right,
Speaker 4: there's kids that don't have.
Speaker 3: A mother anymore.
Speaker 4: There is an Ice officer who is being heavily scrutinized
Speaker 4: by the entire country, who has no idea what it's
Speaker 4: like to be put in a split second situation like that.
Speaker 4: And for people out there like it pisses me off
Speaker 4: when people are like, well, they should have shot out
Speaker 4: the fucking tires.
Speaker 3: Okay, it is proto call.
Speaker 4: If you pull your weapon, you are pulling your weapon
Speaker 4: to end that person.
Speaker 3: It is. It is life or death situation.
Speaker 4: If they were to shot out the tires, then that
Speaker 4: car would have went out control and taken out five
Speaker 4: fucking people. Then we'd be having a completely different conversation
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: I have seen so many police officers break down that video, right,
Speaker 2: and keep in mind the Ice agent that shot her,
Speaker 2: who was also hit that had to be brought to
Speaker 2: the hospital for internal belief because the car did in
Speaker 2: fact hit him. So many people were like, he wasn't hit,
Speaker 2: he had no right, No, no, no, he did get hit.
Speaker 2: And not only that, this same ice officer six months
Speaker 2: ago was drug underneath a car in a very very
Speaker 2: similar situation. So as much as these people want to
Speaker 2: point the finger, he didn't do his job, right, Yo,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have done any fucking different in that position.
Speaker 2: Nobody would have, especially if you just got drug six
Speaker 2: months prior underneath a car for this exact situation.
Speaker 1: No, you wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: You would have made the decision I'm not getting drug
Speaker 2: under a car again today, Like, I'm right, No, that's
Speaker 2: ridicular rules.
Speaker 4: The liberals will make the argument that he shouldn't have
Speaker 4: been back on the force if that had happened to him,
Speaker 4: which I agree he probably shouldn't have. However, everybody fucking
Speaker 4: heals from things differently. Yeah, and this guy probably has
Speaker 4: some experience going through some crazy ass shit and was like,
Speaker 4: who's hungry?
Speaker 2: But the point is that woman who was there in
Speaker 2: the first place, right, Okay, Like the ice agents hate
Speaker 2: the ice agents agree with what they're doing. Disagree with
Speaker 2: what they're doing, fine, you are more than you have
Speaker 2: the right to your opinion a thousand percent. And I
Speaker 2: would die on that hill of saying that everybody. It's
Speaker 2: the same thing with the freedom of speech. I may
Speaker 2: disagree wholeheartedly with what this person is saying, but I
Speaker 2: will fight to the death for this person's right to
Speaker 2: say it. I'm good with this now getting in the
Speaker 2: way and blocking traffic and stopping federal agents from doing
Speaker 2: their job.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: See, now we are going from the level of talking
Speaker 2: about something to acting about something, and now there is
Speaker 2: physicality that comes with that. That woman, like you said,
Speaker 2: had been mobilized. She had been brainwashed to a certain level,
Speaker 2: and she truly felt like she was in the right
Speaker 2: for being in that place in that moment.
Speaker 1: She didn't have to be there, she didn't need to
Speaker 1: be there.
Speaker 2: She didn't help anybody by being there, She didn't stop
Speaker 2: the ICE agents from doing their job. If anything, all
Speaker 2: she did was put herself in harm's way for the
Speaker 2: virtue of it.
Speaker 1: And now I'm not saying that that she's stupid. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that she was radicalized.
Speaker 2: That's another problem because as much as the left has
Speaker 2: their radicalization. So does the right. It's the same conversation
Speaker 2: with Trump arrangement syndrome. It's the same conversation with.
Speaker 1: Israel or I was gonna say Israeli or Israel A
Speaker 1: kind of blended the words fuck off, the Israeli derangement
Speaker 1: syndrome and the Iranian derangement syndrome. There are certain people
Speaker 1: right now that Net and Yahoo can do no wrong.
Speaker 2: Israel can do no wrong because they just can't the
Speaker 2: same way Trump can do no wrong because he's Trump
Speaker 2: and he can't do no wrong. The Iotola and the
Speaker 2: Iranians they're just doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: They can't do no wrong.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, flip opposite side of the coin for the exact
Speaker 2: same talking points, you'll have people that will point out
Speaker 2: every single flaw. Trump can do no right, the Iatola
Speaker 2: can do no right, Israel can do no right. And
Speaker 2: it's like, bro, do y'all understand that that is a
Speaker 2: form of radicalization, But no, people don't have the critical
Speaker 2: thinking skills anymore because that has been forced out of
Speaker 2: the majority of the people.
Speaker 1: I think at this point.
Speaker 4: It's gang mentality, is what it is, and it's my
Speaker 4: team no matter what, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and think about it.
Speaker 4: Think about what liberals used to be like when you
Speaker 4: and I were kids, Bro, they were like pot smoking hippies.
Speaker 3: They wanted to be.
Speaker 4: Left alone about eating healthy food. Now fast forward to
Speaker 4: today's liberals. They're slaves to the medical industry. They eat garbage,
Speaker 4: the opposite of everything that a liberal used to be right.
Speaker 4: And that didn't just happen randomly overnight. That was an
Speaker 4: orchestrated plan that took some time, some planning, and some execution.
Speaker 4: And this lady and the we're bringing up as an
Speaker 4: example right now is you can call her a victim
Speaker 4: of this, you can call her a useful idiot, but
Speaker 4: either way, it was manipulation into putting her into this position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And to that point, I remember the liberals when I
Speaker 2: was a kid grown and when I was old enough
Speaker 2: to really understand the score. Right when I really started
Speaker 2: digging into geopolitics, I was young. I was I was
Speaker 2: in middle school, and I remember digging into which political
Speaker 2: faction believed what and for what reason, and what their
Speaker 2: end goals were. And I remember the at the time
Speaker 2: when I was in middle school, we still had the
Speaker 2: global War on tear going on.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: We still had till two warfronts going on.
Speaker 2: We were going to bring down bring down Sadam, and
Speaker 2: we were gonna find Oshama Bin lied, all.
Speaker 1: The things, all the stuff, right.
Speaker 2: The whole nine to eleven was still a very present
Speaker 2: memory to most of us, and that's why a lot
Speaker 2: of us joined the military. Like I'm with that, I
Speaker 2: fully understand the scope now looking back. But I remember
Speaker 2: being in middle school and I had buddies of.
Speaker 1: Mine who were also very politicized because of their parents.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. They were regurgitating whatever their parents told them.
Speaker 1: That's fine. You had some that were so die hard
Speaker 1: Republican that they sounded like they were idiots. On the
Speaker 1: other side, the liberals sounded very hippie esque, very very
Speaker 1: equality and I may not have agreed with their talking points.
Speaker 1: I may not have agreed with their position on abortion,
Speaker 1: I may not have agreed with their position on government spending,
Speaker 1: whatever the case was, but I had no doubts that
Speaker 1: they were at least proud Americans. Nobody at that point
Speaker 1: was trying to dethrone America as.
Speaker 2: The world's only superpower. Republican democrat, it didn't matter. You
Speaker 2: could make a case that both sides were at least
Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form patriots, and I at
Speaker 2: least believed that at one point in time. But I
Speaker 2: remember reading the writing on the walls even back then,
Speaker 2: and I remember seeing that if the Liberals continue on
Speaker 2: the way that they're on, they're only like three steps
Speaker 2: away from communism, and it's not even a crazy far jump.
Speaker 2: They just have to make a couple of more strategic
Speaker 2: changes to happen.
Speaker 1: And were there.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Republicans, if they keep doing what they're doing,
Speaker 2: they're just gonna make the richer richer and the poor poorer,
Speaker 2: and they're just gonna completely wipe out the middle class.
Speaker 2: And like it doesn't.
Speaker 4: And so it's gonna end up in communism basically anyways,
Speaker 4: because you're just gonna have a ruling class and a
Speaker 4: slave class at the end of the day. That's exactly
Speaker 4: what communism is, right as well, you know.
Speaker 2: But at least the Democrats were it was like they
Speaker 2: were almost starting to read straight out of the Marxist handbook. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: the Republicans are playing like a ten D chess game
Speaker 2: to get there. And I could see the writing on
Speaker 2: the walls, and I was in middle school. But I
Speaker 2: remember thinking to myself, like, Okay, I'm also like eleven,
Speaker 2: so like maybe maybe.
Speaker 1: I don't have the whole scope. Maybe I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at this a little too a little too brash, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure as I get older, I'll understand the nuances
Speaker 2: and I'll get there.
Speaker 1: No, No, I was right on the fucking money was on.
Speaker 3: The wall back then.
Speaker 4: Now it's being shined on the fucking wall with a
Speaker 4: bright holographic projector. It's like, it is insane to me
Speaker 4: the way that it is just so blatant now that
Speaker 4: it's almost like they're so far ahead in their plan
Speaker 4: that they can be as blatant as they want, because like,
Speaker 4: what are we gonna do at this point exactly?
Speaker 1: And it's like, to be considered a left politician, you
Speaker 1: have to appease to the far left, Like the left
Speaker 1: of center guy is not getting elected. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: the one that's screaming with the fucking retards over here.
Speaker 1: And the problem is that that psycho agenda has made
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party what it is today. Meanwhile, to be
Speaker 1: considered a Republican politician, you can't be just right of center,
Speaker 1: which is for the record, I do still as of
Speaker 1: this moment, believe that most Americans, when push comes to show,
Speaker 1: they could talk whatever they want to talk, they could
Speaker 1: put whatever they want on social media when they go
Speaker 1: to the ballot box and they're actually voting deep within
Speaker 1: their heart of hearts, and they're deciding which person they
Speaker 1: think is the best person for this job whatever.
Speaker 2: I feel like way more of us are closer to
Speaker 2: the center now than we have ever been before. But
Speaker 2: the politicians that you're voting on have said so much
Speaker 2: rhetoric to the far left and the far right that
Speaker 2: you're stuck. It's the old South Park atage. You're making
Speaker 2: the decision between a tird sandwich and a douche.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: There's no like middle ground person where it's like, you
Speaker 2: know what this person. I may not agree with everything
Speaker 2: they said, but I like most of what they said,
Speaker 2: and I feel like they'd probably be the best man
Speaker 2: for the job or woman for the job. No, you're
Speaker 2: voting between the two people that are arguably the worst
Speaker 2: selection for this position. But that's who you're left with,
Speaker 2: and it's that's also I believe a part of the plan.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I like the way that Sam Tripley used to phrase,
Speaker 4: it is what it used to be crime bosses versus
Speaker 4: satanic pedophiles. Right, Yeah, And I'm not saying that's very
Speaker 4: far off, because that's damn near what we have now.
Speaker 4: But you know, as you were talking about Marxism and
Speaker 4: you were seeing the writings on the wall, but now
Speaker 4: look as for today, they're blatantly Marxists. Not only that,
Speaker 4: but they're blatantly Maoism too, yes, And so we have
Speaker 4: like this Maoist agenda moving forward from the far right.
Speaker 4: And I just don't understand how anybody in their right
Speaker 4: mind can say I'm liberal and going along with whatever
Speaker 4: they want and say just as I can't on the right.
Speaker 4: But you know, like when you have politicians and health
Speaker 4: experts getting up there that can't answer a simple question
Speaker 4: like what is a woman? Or can men give birth?
Speaker 4: And they're fucking telling us what has gone against nature
Speaker 4: ever since nature existed?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, how do they sit up.
Speaker 4: There with a straight face and say, that's my guy,
Speaker 4: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: If somebody is in the health field and they have
Speaker 2: a doctorate or they're in some sort of position of
Speaker 2: government over the health industry and they're still arguing whether
Speaker 2: there's two genders or not, we have way bigger problems
Speaker 2: on our hand at this moment, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing with defense or military spending in general.
Speaker 2: If you're talking about somebody who has never and I'm
Speaker 2: not even saying never served because to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: if you serve for four years and you get out,
Speaker 2: and I'll count myself among this number, I do not
Speaker 2: understand the scope of big picture troop movements. I was
Speaker 2: a low level enlisted guy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If you don't have somebody.
Speaker 4: To be compartmentalized all the way to the tippy top anyway,
Speaker 4: need to know basis, so you're never going to get
Speaker 4: the full scope.
Speaker 1: But put it to a business scale, right.
Speaker 2: If you have somebody who is running the department or
Speaker 2: a better business bureau in your local town, just throwing
Speaker 2: this out, you've got the guy who is the president
Speaker 2: of your local better business bureau who has never owned
Speaker 2: a successful business.
Speaker 1: We have a fucking problem here. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If you have somebody who is trying to run the
Speaker 2: defense industry who has never done even from a kerlonel
Speaker 2: on up in the military to see actual, big picture,
Speaker 2: big military type things.
Speaker 1: They are the wrong person for this job. That's insane
Speaker 1: to me. You have somebody who is running.
Speaker 2: The quote unquote education who has never actually benefitted from
Speaker 2: the educational system because they were in private schools and
Speaker 2: charter schools and ivy leagues. Start to finish, They've never
Speaker 2: sat in a public school. They've they've never had to
Speaker 2: apply for a government grant in their life. This is
Speaker 2: the wrong person for that job. Same thing to the
Speaker 2: medical industry.
Speaker 3: His name is escaping me.
Speaker 4: And you're gonna you're gonna say, who's the guy that
Speaker 4: just won New York?
Speaker 2: Oh Mom, Donnie, Oh god, dude, New York is about
Speaker 2: to implode under this guy.
Speaker 1: It's only been a couple of.
Speaker 4: Months, so so what's going on? Man, Like, we're gonna
Speaker 4: go We're just gonna say, fuck it. Let's see, we
Speaker 4: already went this way like the guy, the guy selling
Speaker 4: snake oil. Fuck it, We'll just see if the snake
Speaker 4: oil works. We have a little bit of cognitive dissonance
Speaker 4: mixed with a little bit of hope ium.
Speaker 1: Fuck it, it's even worse. So I forget what the
Speaker 1: program is called CoA. Maybe I hear me out.
Speaker 2: Have you heard about what's going on with the real
Speaker 2: estate industry in New York City right now? Because of
Speaker 2: mom Donnie Well, isn't.
Speaker 4: Isn't this guy saying all kinds of crazy shit like that,
Speaker 4: he why don't you give me a breakdown? Because I
Speaker 4: listened to No Agenda and their breakdown on this guy
Speaker 4: and they're basically laughing like it's only a matter of
Speaker 4: minutes before New York is underwater.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I agree. So all right, I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: you an example. Okay, you have a podcast, you're a
Speaker 2: business owner, small scale, large scale, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 2: Have you ever done any kind of dabblings into the
Speaker 2: real estate world?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, a little bit, a little bit. You understand
Speaker 1: the concept, right you have.
Speaker 2: Let's say you have a property and just giving a ballpark,
Speaker 2: just to keep it all good, even round numbers here.
Speaker 2: Let's say you have a building. Is it commercial? Is
Speaker 2: it just you know what, Let's just go low pick
Speaker 2: low scale. It's a residential building, okay, but it could
Speaker 2: be rezoned as a commercial building. And it's in New
Speaker 2: York City, and this building has been appraised for a
Speaker 2: million dollars. Let's just keep it real, real, easy to
Speaker 2: work with numbers here all right under mom Donnie's New York.
Speaker 2: Right now, let's say that for whatever reason, you decided
Speaker 2: you wanted to sell your building. Okay, you've gotten it
Speaker 2: appraised and you're ready to put it on market right now,
Speaker 2: you have to give it six months for a nonprofit
Speaker 2: to buy the building first before you can put it
Speaker 2: out to open market for actual interests to come in and.
Speaker 1: Buy this building. Right here's the kicker.
Speaker 2: If the nonprofits all vie for the possible time to
Speaker 2: buy or whatever else, and you have this nonprofit says, hey,
Speaker 2: we can only pay you two hundred K, Well we
Speaker 2: have this other one says four hundred k. The best
Speaker 2: offer you get from these nonprofits is five hundred k.
Speaker 2: You have to sell it to them for five hundred k.
Speaker 1: Regardless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to take the loss or not sell
Speaker 2: your building. But if you hold on to this building,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get hit with so much property tax that
Speaker 2: now you're debating whether it would have been better or
Speaker 2: worse to take the five hundred k hit or not.
Speaker 4: So basically, what this guy is doing is taking all
Speaker 4: all hopes of private ownership from here on out out
Speaker 4: of the window so that nonprofits are gonna come in
Speaker 4: and are they going to turn them into daycare?
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if they're gonna use it for housing the homeless,
Speaker 2: if they're gonna use it as an office building, if
Speaker 2: they're gonna just come in and jack off in it
Speaker 2: every day, it doesn't fucking matter. The non profit made
Speaker 2: the offer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, the whole daycares, the empty data
Speaker 4: cares that they've been proffiting off of with Waltz and.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that that situation is also mind blowing the
Speaker 2: fact that it has gone this far without anybody checking
Speaker 2: in on it for this long. Now we have more
Speaker 2: of these people in New York and LA and all
Speaker 2: these other places, like, wait a minute, we have something
Speaker 2: similar going on with this group of refugees. I wonder
Speaker 2: if there's a connection, Like, yeah, this is what happens
Speaker 2: whenever you had the Land of the Free and the
Speaker 2: whole the all of these generous government grant programs without
Speaker 2: any kind of real person checking the validity of the
Speaker 2: of the grant giving.
Speaker 1: And so now we have.
Speaker 4: A billion Yeah, all these places are coming out now
Speaker 4: and I don't know, I'm always skeptical of somebody that
Speaker 4: breaks the story.
Speaker 3: But it looks like this guy was just one of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly.
Speaker 2: And it's gotten to a point to where now Walls,
Speaker 2: who was a VP candidate just two years ago, is now, oh,
Speaker 2: so humiliated by this that he's not gonna be going
Speaker 2: in for reelection now. Ilam Omar, the fucking, nasty, ugly
Speaker 2: Somalian bitch that married her brother to get citizenship to America.
Speaker 2: She has been removed from multiple committees in DC because
Speaker 2: they can't trust her.
Speaker 1: And it's like, huh, wait a minute, you can't trust
Speaker 1: this bitch. Nothing about her background was a red flag
Speaker 1: to y'all before.
Speaker 4: Now what Yeah, Alison, Alison was following her around and
Speaker 4: she she was asking her questions and she's, oh, you're
Speaker 4: one of them. I don't know if you've seen that video.
Speaker 1: I have not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's our that's our homegrowl Allison.
Speaker 4: She she got viral way back in the day when
Speaker 4: she was going through a drive through at Starbucks and
Speaker 4: they were like, you need a mask, and she was like,
Speaker 4: I don't have a mask, and they're like, well, we
Speaker 4: can give you one, and she's like, I need to
Speaker 4: have a mask so that you can hand me a
Speaker 4: coffee through the window. And they're like yes, and she
Speaker 4: was like, so, let me get this straight. You can
Speaker 4: hand me a mask, but you can't hand me my
Speaker 4: fucking coffee.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: And she went viral.
Speaker 4: For that that she started working for Weber's Way, my
Speaker 4: buddy Jess Webber who comes on the show all the time,
Speaker 4: and now she works for OAN News and she's getting
Speaker 4: up in these fucking politicians face.
Speaker 3: She made Nancy Pelosi say, oh, shut up.
Speaker 4: And she got in this uh, this brotherfucker's face that
Speaker 4: you were just bringing up and and and she's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you're one of them, you know. Like so she's like
Speaker 4: fucking bringing it to these politicians and I love it.
Speaker 3: Good for her.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, shouts out to Allison for all the good
Speaker 1: things she's doing. But yeah, it's Pelosi is a whole
Speaker 1: other thing, dude.
Speaker 2: I I there's actual websites that are tracking her husband's
Speaker 2: stock portfolio because the dude's got like a four hundred
Speaker 2: percent return on investment without fail. He's got a better
Speaker 2: track record than any I would argue, any like Warren
Speaker 2: Buffett doesn't stand a candle to him, and that should
Speaker 2: be telling a lot of people a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're on it. Look at that.
Speaker 3: I lost thirty five dollars today, So we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess we'll find Are you following his records here?
Speaker 4: No, that was a joke, man, That was actually my
Speaker 4: crypto that was my crypto wallet.
Speaker 2: But hey, if you are following his investment portfolio, I'm
Speaker 2: not judging. The man hits NonStop. There's something to be
Speaker 2: said there, bro I've.
Speaker 4: Been saying this ever since he got hit in the
Speaker 4: head with a hammer by his homosexual male caller that
Speaker 4: one night. I'm like, dude, I'm like, hey, man, this
Speaker 4: guy just is living the life. He's living the gay
Speaker 4: dreamy as the politician wife that like can basically pull
Speaker 4: whatever string she wants. He's fucking ruling the stock market, realm,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna follow what this guy's doing in stocks. You know,
Speaker 4: I never actually get it because.
Speaker 2: He got hit in the head with that one gay lover,
Speaker 2: then he got caught in a duy with another gay lover,
Speaker 2: but then got acquitted of those charges. Like, it's it's
Speaker 2: a mess. It's a fucking mess. But I mean, what
Speaker 2: do you expect from the DC elite.
Speaker 3: You like how they like to tie.
Speaker 4: They like to tie a team to all these events
Speaker 4: that happened, right, Because when that first came out, they
Speaker 4: tried to be like, oh, it was a Donald Trump supporter,
Speaker 4: he just hated Nancy's husband, And it was like, wait
Speaker 4: a minute. The guy had a Black Lives Matter flag
Speaker 4: flying in front of his fucking yard, even though he's
Speaker 4: probably never had a black man in his house, but
Speaker 4: he still had a Black Lives Matter flying.
Speaker 1: You know, bro, it's the same with that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the same with that dude that.
Speaker 2: Blew Obama or had Obama blow him in Chicago, right,
Speaker 2: and he went viral talking about that. Him and Obama
Speaker 2: basically rode around a limousine all night, dig coke.
Speaker 1: And blew each other. And they're like, well, this is
Speaker 1: this is Trump propaganda.
Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm sorry, you're telling me this guy
Speaker 2: loves Donald Trump so much that he would suck Obama's
Speaker 2: dick because of I'm sorry, what are we saying?
Speaker 4: Well, those court court hearings what was his name, Sinclair
Speaker 4: or something like that. Yeah, those court hearings came out
Speaker 4: before Donald Trump even announced that he was running, before
Speaker 4: he even went down the escalator to begin with, right,
Speaker 4: it was two different instances. He didn't even know who
Speaker 4: Obama was at the time that it took place.
Speaker 2: For the record, nobody knew who Obama was before his
Speaker 2: name was on the ballot. He served not even one
Speaker 2: whole year as a junior senator. He was a nobody
Speaker 2: in the DC spectrum. But like whatever, So this guy
Speaker 2: just loved Trump so much that he would do coke
Speaker 2: off of Obama's dick for about it before Donald Trump
Speaker 2: was even in the electoral conversation. And it's like, like
Speaker 2: out loud the liberals don't hear how dumb that sounds.
Speaker 2: But like sure, I guess just just run the story
Speaker 2: because that's what CNN does.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That's what don Lemon and what what's that one cunts
Speaker 2: named the white chick that's fugly? Oh matdout Madou Yeah,
Speaker 2: Rachel Maddow. Yeah, that's what they do. They just run shit.
Speaker 2: They don't check, they don't look into it it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, not at all.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, she's a paid propagandist in the first place,
Speaker 4: Like her whole job is to stir the pot. So
Speaker 4: she will lie blatantly to your face just to keep
Speaker 4: this left versus right going, because that is their whole.
Speaker 3: Thing, you know.
Speaker 4: And what do you remember that they took Jimmy Kimmel
Speaker 4: offline for a little bit right after the Charlie Kirk
Speaker 4: incident because apparently he made a joke that was in distaste.
Speaker 4: My whole thing with that bro is, first off, he
Speaker 4: didn't write the joke that was approved by the station
Speaker 4: before he ever even hit his desk, right, And so
Speaker 4: there there, there was two when this happened.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, where are they going to gain from this? Right? Okay,
Speaker 3: I see what they can gain.
Speaker 4: One, it's gonna be a push to take guns away,
Speaker 4: right because no matter what, they're always gonna be able
Speaker 4: to throw that in there. It's going to feed the
Speaker 4: fuel to the fire of the left versus right propaganda.
Speaker 4: And Jimmy Kimmel's show isn't doing that well right now,
Speaker 4: so they're gonna end up bringing him back and it's
Speaker 4: just gonna boost his fucking rating. So it's a win
Speaker 4: for everybody all around. And that's exactly what the fuck happens.
Speaker 2: So with the gun rights conversation, we didn't really hear
Speaker 2: much about it because the dude allegedly, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't believe this whatsoever used a hunting rifle. And the
Speaker 2: left has always said we're not coming for your hunting rifles,
Speaker 2: We're coming for your scary military weapons. Allegedly this dude
Speaker 2: used a bolt action hunting rifle. Right, and then the
Speaker 2: picture that went viral was a picture from three years prior,
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with anything. But all right, fine,
Speaker 2: but the gun rights conversation really didn't go far on
Speaker 2: this one. I expected the same thing. I expected the
Speaker 2: two to eight community to get a solid hit on
Speaker 2: this one. Didn't really hear much about it. But okay,
Speaker 2: all right, maybe we dodged a bullet figuratively on that one. Okay,
Speaker 2: cut two. Then Jimmy Kimmel makes a joke about how
Speaker 2: it was a MAGA supporter that shot Trump.
Speaker 1: That Again, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If he riffed that one or if that was a
Speaker 2: joke that was approved by the studio. I don't know, right,
Speaker 2: but that's very false, and it wouldn't It doesn't take
Speaker 2: much looking into it to see that that was him
Speaker 2: talking out of his ass, whether it was him riffing
Speaker 2: or one of his writers wrote that in whoever put
Speaker 2: that in to be said, was clearly just talking, just
Speaker 2: to talk, which is why Jimmy Kimball has gone down
Speaker 2: in the ratings because his show sucks. He's not funny anymore,
Speaker 2: and he hasn't been for quite some time.
Speaker 3: He hasn't been since The Man Show.
Speaker 1: Right, at one point in time, he was funny, like
Speaker 1: properly funny. He hasn't been in quite some time.
Speaker 2: And it's not because this country is so racist and
Speaker 2: so big at it. It's because he sucks. It's the
Speaker 2: same with the old Jimmy Fallon's old bitch ass. Like
Speaker 2: at one point in time people genuinely liked watching him.
Speaker 2: He's he's not entertaining to see anymore. And that's I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's because of the political ideations. It's
Speaker 2: because he lost it. Whatever the it factor is, he
Speaker 2: had it at one point. He no longer does. And
Speaker 2: that's that's okay.
Speaker 4: Imagine if that was your job and you have this
Speaker 4: pizazz in this it factor, so to say, and they're
Speaker 4: making you read off these scripts that you don't necessarily
Speaker 4: agree with, so you can't put your it wow into it, right,
Speaker 4: you know, so.
Speaker 3: Eventually you are going to fall off.
Speaker 4: And you know, I do blame them because they sold
Speaker 4: their souls and they sold out, and they knew what
Speaker 4: they were getting themselves into from day one, and they
Speaker 4: were like, I don't care, put me in the fucking spotlight.
Speaker 4: I'll read whatever it is. So that's their fucking fault.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it is also the fault
Speaker 4: of these fucking corporations who have this woke agenda that
Speaker 4: they were shoving down everyone's throat to the point where
Speaker 4: it's gotten. It's gotten to the point now where the
Speaker 4: pendulum has swung so much that we have people on
Speaker 4: airplanes wearing Burger King crowns yelling the N word as
Speaker 4: loud as they fucking can, and it's being paraded. So
Speaker 4: it it's the divide is working very very well. And
Speaker 4: if you can see it for what it is and
Speaker 4: just take a step back and don't get emotionally attached
Speaker 4: to it, you can start using some discernment and seeing
Speaker 4: where they're going.
Speaker 2: With these Oh agreed, And that pendulum swing has been forced, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, even towards the Jimmy fallon getting fired allegedly,
Speaker 2: that was all in the same line as CBS getting
Speaker 2: sued by Donald Trump to the tune of was it
Speaker 2: sixteen million or something crazy like this because of some
Speaker 2: other thing that happened, completely detached from the Jimmy fallon,
Speaker 2: but that just kind of happened, or Jimmy Kimmel. Rather
Speaker 2: that all got brought in at the same timeframe. And
Speaker 2: per the federal law, whenever that type of big business
Speaker 2: deal is going down, that buyout can't happen while this
Speaker 2: company is an open litigation.
Speaker 1: So Trump decided.
Speaker 2: To sue them at a very strategic time when they
Speaker 2: were trying to buy out what was a sky Dance
Speaker 2: or some other big media company. And so Trump did
Speaker 2: this to strong arm leverage them into capitulating, giving him
Speaker 2: a sixteen million one point six I forget what the
Speaker 2: actual number was, but some massive check and firing Jimmy
Speaker 2: as a sweetener on this. When he got his job
Speaker 2: back in like two weeks, it wasn't that big of
Speaker 2: a deal, but the optics were still there.
Speaker 1: The message was still sin.
Speaker 2: He still went on air crying his lies out about
Speaker 2: how they're being so mean to him, and he had
Speaker 2: to give this big apology two weeks later.
Speaker 1: You got your fucking job back, dude. It was never
Speaker 1: about that you could go right now and start a
Speaker 1: podcast with your name recognition and probably do instant success
Speaker 1: because of who you are. But that wasn't the point.
Speaker 1: It was about the optics.
Speaker 4: If they allow him to write right, that's another thing
Speaker 4: like with these Tucker Carlson's. The only reason Tucker Carlson
Speaker 4: is allowed to do this is because his contract allowed
Speaker 4: him to do this. Either they completely severed ties with
Speaker 4: him and Fox and he is a will to do
Speaker 4: what he wants to do, which I don't think is
Speaker 4: the case. He was under the contract of the CIA
Speaker 4: the entire time. And fuck, where was I going with this?
Speaker 4: What were we talking about right before?
Speaker 2: We're talking me how it was about the optics. It
Speaker 2: was about the buy out, the legality of all these things.
Speaker 1: Although speaking up, well.
Speaker 3: The optics is.
Speaker 4: Well, the optics is very important about everything, right, Because
Speaker 4: I was talking about this on another recent show. I
Speaker 4: forget what show it was, but we were talking about
Speaker 4: the lady that was in in the public transit and
Speaker 4: got her throat slit, and then we were talking about
Speaker 4: George Floyd and then the new Charlie Kirk thing, all
Speaker 4: three which had to do with the neck. By the way, Yeah,
Speaker 4: which is a Masonic telltale. But with these things, there's
Speaker 4: people that are putting out very very compelling arguments that
Speaker 4: these were fake events.
Speaker 3: Stage events didn't take place.
Speaker 4: It doesn't fucking matter if it did or not, because
Speaker 4: the reaction that it got out was very real and
Speaker 4: was exactly what the fuck they needed. And I'll talk
Speaker 4: about this till the cows come home. The narrative that
Speaker 4: the mainstream media and the CIA and fucking Cash can't
Speaker 4: look straight Patel telling everybody is the only fucking narrative
Speaker 4: that doesn't make sense. The craziest conspiracy theories around this
Speaker 4: Cash or Cash Pattel, this Charlie Kirk thing make more
Speaker 4: sense than the Then this kid jumping off with this
Speaker 4: weapon in his fucking pants and then runs disassembles it,
Speaker 4: reassembles it like all this crazy thing makes that shot
Speaker 4: with the threat, Well, that's not that hard of a
Speaker 4: shot to make with the thirty out six I used
Speaker 4: to shoot thirty out sixes, but I mean it's.
Speaker 2: A two hundred yard shot that's not even hard to
Speaker 2: make with an ar like Honestly, the I mean, I
Speaker 2: understand it depends on the MA, but I mean, that's
Speaker 2: that's not a very difficult shot.
Speaker 1: These people are like, he had to be such a
Speaker 1: skilled sniper. That's not, Bro, not really.
Speaker 2: My son shoots competition right now, and he's twelve. He
Speaker 2: could have fucking nailed that shot, probably better.
Speaker 1: Honestly.
Speaker 4: That's exactly the point that I'm trying to make right now, Bro,
Speaker 4: is we can argue about these little tiny things all
Speaker 4: day until the cows come home. It was this, No,
Speaker 4: it was this or wasn't even real? I it was
Speaker 4: real because of this, you're still talking about it. They
Speaker 4: still got the initial reaction that they wanted from you.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: So is he on an island?
Speaker 4: Is he on Valhalla sipping fucking my ties with somebody
Speaker 4: with Michael Jackson and Tupac?
Speaker 3: Fuck man? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I really don't know at this point right but all
Speaker 4: I do know is they got what they wanted from
Speaker 4: this event taking place.
Speaker 2: And the people that made their money happen No, not really,
Speaker 2: not fully right, and the people that have made their
Speaker 2: money to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I e.
Speaker 2: Candace, Bro, you understand CPMs, You understand how ad revenue works.
Speaker 2: If you look, I would argue that no one has
Speaker 2: made more money off of talking about Charlie Kirk than Candace,
Speaker 2: and I am talking about upwards of seven figures over
Speaker 2: the last six months just from talking about what happened with.
Speaker 4: Charlie bro I'm not even gonna argue that I actually
Speaker 4: made I was kind of upset, you know, because I'm like, dude,
Speaker 4: this bitch is saying, like, oh, Obama's a man. It's
Speaker 4: like how many of my friends were saying this, like
Speaker 4: for years. I can't even count. It's like people you
Speaker 4: don't even meet anymore, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: Kansas is saying and it's some like big epiphany to everybody.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can see.
Speaker 1: This, but yeah, yo, I remember seeing that one. Hell
Speaker 1: yeah that was you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did it. I did it with a truth
Speaker 3: has got any more of.
Speaker 1: Them conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3: They are really boots yoh.
Speaker 4: I was talking about, let's see if she starts talking
Speaker 4: about cloned celebrities, reptilians and flat earth next man, I'm
Speaker 4: off for it.
Speaker 3: Let's see where she goes.
Speaker 2: It's possible, but that's my point, right she I don't
Speaker 2: even think she actually cared one way or another.
Speaker 1: It was always just about the money. It was always
Speaker 1: about the clicks.
Speaker 2: It was about the algorithms, same as Flintes, same as
Speaker 2: all of these big the sources, quote unquote, there's so
Speaker 2: many people are going off of dude. They're in it
Speaker 2: for the clicks. That's all it's ever been. So these
Speaker 2: people have made their money.
Speaker 1: They got their bag off of talking about the catastrophe
Speaker 1: of one guy, right, and so cut to you know,
Speaker 1: in this same light, God, I would love Let's let
Speaker 1: me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Dan Bongino has stepped away from the FBI. He he
Speaker 2: has said that he wants to go back to podcasting.
Speaker 2: What is your take on this one? I feel like
Speaker 2: you and me probably have the same take, But what
Speaker 2: are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: Fuck Dan Bunge, you know, fuck Vince his replacement. They
Speaker 4: both blocked me. They can suck it to.
Speaker 1: About blocked you, dude.
Speaker 3: For what?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because when Dan Bongino said he was stepping down
Speaker 4: and he was going to go back to podcasting, I
Speaker 4: went on one of Vince's live streams and I was
Speaker 4: in there. I was talking shit, man, I was saying
Speaker 4: what was on my mind about Dan Bongino. And you know,
Speaker 4: for somebody to sit behind a microphone every day, day
Speaker 4: in and day out, talking about the Epstein Listen, don't
Speaker 4: ever let.
Speaker 3: This go, you guys, don't ever let this go.
Speaker 4: And and the way that he would talk and embed
Speaker 4: it into people's heads and calling people stupid and ignorant
Speaker 4: us if they don't see it. And then he gets
Speaker 4: in there and I don't know what they have on him,
Speaker 4: or if they threatened his family, or if he was
Speaker 4: just a paid provocateur the entire time on in his
Speaker 4: paychecks were coming from the Trump team and that's just
Speaker 4: the role he was playing. But whatever it is, when
Speaker 4: they looked at America and lied to us about the
Speaker 4: Epstein files, he's lost all of his fucking credit. Man,
Speaker 4: nobody's ever going to listen to him as a credible
Speaker 4: source unless they're a Boomer. Because these boomers somehow still
Speaker 4: are are with it.
Speaker 1: Dude. The boomers are a fucking wild generation.
Speaker 2: Not only do they ruin our country, but they like
Speaker 2: they're still arguing whether the image they're looking at is
Speaker 2: AI or not. It's insane. And I mean, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, I understand the AI is getting better by
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 1: I fully get this, but like, man, I just can't
Speaker 1: tell is that AAR or not?
Speaker 2: And it's like bro, what this This is the same
Speaker 2: generation that when Zuckerberg was being questioned in Congress, they're like, so,
Speaker 2: when the Wi Fi is blinking, can can my computer
Speaker 2: see me? Is the Facebook's watching me? And it's like, bro,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even know how to quantify that
Speaker 2: question with a response. Well, is that cause you're just
Speaker 2: being uncooperative? No, what you're saying doesn't fucking make so, man,
Speaker 2: what are we talking about it? I could go on
Speaker 2: a rant about the boomers. I'm not gonna because love
Speaker 2: and respect to all the boomers that are actually listening
Speaker 2: with their third eye all the way open, that have
Speaker 2: cognitive brain still, but yeah, it's a thing.
Speaker 4: There are some, right, I mean my my buddy Ron
Speaker 4: from New England. He owes a show called The Wicked Planet,
Speaker 4: and he is one of the only boomers that is
Speaker 4: able to look at everything for what it really is,
Speaker 4: you know. But not all of them are, just like,
Speaker 4: not everybody from our era is able to look at
Speaker 4: things the way that we are. We all come from
Speaker 4: an indoctrination foundation and whether we break free from that
Speaker 4: or not is up to us.
Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed, But yeah, so all right, tell me you
Speaker 2: said Vince was his replacement. I didn't realize they already
Speaker 2: named a replacement for him. I kind of whenever I
Speaker 2: heard that he was walking away, I started laughing and
Speaker 2: kind of having looked more into it, So they've already
Speaker 2: named who Dan Bongino's Replacement's going to be.
Speaker 4: Well, no, Dan Bongino when he took the position, was
Speaker 4: replace that's too bright by this guy. Okay, took over
Speaker 4: his channel, the The Bongino Show.
Speaker 1: Okay, so now Vince is running The Bongino Show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 4: Has been ever since Bongino stepped down and took the position,
Speaker 4: and so he basically just took over Bongino's audience and
Speaker 4: started broadcasting his podcast from the same podcast rss feed
Speaker 4: and so basically just inherited all of and then there
Speaker 4: was like a whole passing of the Torch episode and everything.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if Dan Bongino was coming back
Speaker 4: to this show, but I assumed when he said I
Speaker 4: want to get back into podcasting. I saw that this
Speaker 4: Vince show was live on Rumble. I went in there
Speaker 4: hoping to see Bongino and letting him know what I
Speaker 4: thought of him, and instead I just let Vince know
Speaker 4: what I thought of Bongino, and then I was blocked
Speaker 4: from Vince's. So then I went on Dan Bongino's X
Speaker 4: and got blocked from there.
Speaker 2: And so you're doing the lord's work, Catalyst, you know,
Speaker 2: you're just out here.
Speaker 3: I try.
Speaker 4: You know, when when when Joe Biden was posting on
Speaker 4: X when he was the resident, I was constantly on
Speaker 4: there and he would say things and I would be
Speaker 4: like talking about.
Speaker 3: His daughter's diary.
Speaker 4: Or I was like, hey, hey, which clone are we
Speaker 4: going to get a view today? Is it the angry
Speaker 4: Biden that can't walk up the stairs?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 4: Or the angry Biden that's mad at the world? Is
Speaker 4: it the ice cream eating Biden? Is it Jim Carrey
Speaker 4: that can't walk up the stairs. Yeah, when we get
Speaker 4: you know, like I would say shit like that, and
Speaker 4: I never got blocked Dan Bongino for some reason, fucking
Speaker 4: within ten minutes, I was blocked from his channel, Dude.
Speaker 1: The Ashley Biden diary conversation is a wild one as well.
Speaker 1: Did you see Hunter go on the show and Ryan Show?
Speaker 4: Is that where he was talking about crack?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: I mean kinda yeah, Sean Ryan brought Hunter Biden on
Speaker 2: the show, and I was stoked for the episode because
Speaker 2: I understand a lot of people will say Sean Ryan
Speaker 2: is a plant, and I can't fully deny that, but
Speaker 2: at least I think that he brings on enough guests.
Speaker 2: It's the same with like Joe Rogan, Right, whether he
Speaker 2: is or is not a plant, you look at the
Speaker 2: types of people he brings on. I don't listen to
Speaker 2: every single Rogan show religiously. If he's got on a
Speaker 2: guest that I think would be an interesting thing to
Speaker 2: listen to, I'll check it out.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's Mma, sometimes it's a.
Speaker 2: Graham Handcock and everything in between. Right, Sean Ryan has
Speaker 2: brought on a few people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that Sean Ryan's brought on a
Speaker 1: few people that are in the same Yeah.
Speaker 4: We're saying, if it's interesting, the topic's good, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: listen to it. Right. I don't have time to listen
Speaker 4: to podcasts the way that I used to. Right, I
Speaker 4: don't even listen to my friends podcast. I'll spot listen
Speaker 4: if they have an interesting guest and interesting topic.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, oh good.
Speaker 4: And you know, like, there's very few shows that I
Speaker 4: will listen to every single episode that comes out that
Speaker 4: being said, yes, I think that Sean Ryan is one
Speaker 4: hundred percent of plant. Does that mean that he's not
Speaker 4: gonna give us good information from time to time? No,
Speaker 4: because even the news is going to give you some
Speaker 4: good information from time to time.
Speaker 3: Right, we just have to use discerment.
Speaker 4: Throw the baby, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater,
Speaker 4: because every good psyop has a lot of truth in hold.
Speaker 1: On for some reason, my shit when sideways on when
Speaker 1: that fell?
Speaker 4: But all right now you're you're totally good, you know,
Speaker 4: and like it's just crazy, you know, the world that
Speaker 4: we live in today, where we were just talking about,
Speaker 4: you know, nine to eleven and the climate then and
Speaker 4: the climate now, the left versus right. Speaking of nine
Speaker 4: to eleven, I'm in talks with Norbin Laden, who is
Speaker 4: the niece of Osama bin Laden. I'm trying to get
Speaker 4: her on the fucking show. Bro.
Speaker 1: The ben Laden family are solid people. He's like the
Speaker 1: one bad apple of the fifty children. He's the one
Speaker 1: that's a piece of shit.
Speaker 3: So and is that even legit too? You know?
Speaker 4: Could that just be what they presented to us in
Speaker 4: the media, because we know, damn well it wasn't. Osama
Speaker 4: bin Laden. It was an inside job. Yeah, not only
Speaker 4: was it an inside job, it wasn't. And I know
Speaker 4: you don't like people talking about this, but facts are facts.
Speaker 4: This is an inside job that took place from headquarters Israel,
Speaker 4: so you know, like it was. There is so many
Speaker 4: hands in so many different pots. Like I was saying
Speaker 4: at the very beginning of this show, to say that
Speaker 4: it's one group of people is almost retarted at this
Speaker 4: point because there's so many hands in the pot. There's
Speaker 4: so many people that want a piece.
Speaker 3: Of the action.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's a hot take to say
Speaker 2: that Osama bin Laden was a raging piece of shit
Speaker 2: and the only reason why. And take away nine to
Speaker 2: eleven put that conversation on the sideburner for a second.
Speaker 2: Here you could look at the bin Laden family. So
Speaker 2: for anybody who doesn't know, look it up. Daddy ben
Speaker 2: Lauden made his money because he was the only one
Speaker 2: to be able to build a road across the desert.
Speaker 2: No other engineer had figured out how to do it successfully.
Speaker 2: He came in with just all the know how was
Speaker 2: able to successfully build this very major highway across this
Speaker 2: expanse of desert. And so the ben Laden name was
Speaker 2: a very honored and respected name in multiple Arab countries
Speaker 2: for years and years and years. And he's got like
Speaker 2: fifty kids and I'm being a little facetious on that.
Speaker 1: It might be forty two, okay, whatever, whatever, We're whatever.
Speaker 1: He had a lot of kids, maybe fucking with their
Speaker 1: ten wives and shit, yeah, for sure, for sure. And
Speaker 1: all the other ben Lauden's, literally every single one of them,
Speaker 1: aside from Osama, they were all engineers, doctors, architects.
Speaker 2: They were masters of industry in multiple regards held like
Speaker 2: ten of them lived in America prior to nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: and we're very highly respected and esteemed in their fields.
Speaker 2: Osama got in with the move Sjahadeen, which again we
Speaker 2: could tie that to the CIA.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why his CIA name.
Speaker 2: Was tim Osman aka Osama bin Laden. They were using
Speaker 2: him in that regard, and he was starting multiple different
Speaker 2: terrorist cells. And I don't mean this to stir the pot,
Speaker 2: just to stir the pot. No, No, he was a
Speaker 2: true blue believer in the Islamic Jihad, and like all
Speaker 2: these things, the CIA knew that about him, so they
Speaker 2: used him as an asset. Right, So as far as
Speaker 2: him doing some seriously heinous shit to people in the
Speaker 2: name of Hala. Yeah, Osama was that guy for sure. So, like,
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's a hot take to say
Speaker 2: that Osama bin Lan was a massive piece of shit.
Speaker 1: But again, I also don't believe that nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: Was carried out by al Qaeda, especially because every single
Speaker 2: person that was on that plane were Saudi's and he
Speaker 2: wasn't a Saudi Arabian dude. There's a reason why he
Speaker 2: was in Afghananistan for a good hot minute and then
Speaker 2: random Pakistan, which is one of our allies, but for
Speaker 2: some reason, we couldn't take him until they told us
Speaker 2: that we could take him, even though they are one
Speaker 2: of our allies, and you would think that they would
Speaker 2: hook us up to better themselves later on.
Speaker 1: But like whatever, I.
Speaker 2: Guess it's there's multiple levels of fuck shit that's going
Speaker 2: on here.
Speaker 1: Then when you.
Speaker 2: Look at the insane amount of narcotics, specifically opiates that
Speaker 2: made their way into our country while we were currently
Speaker 2: guarding the poppy fields in Afghanistan, it all ties into
Speaker 2: a different tune. You see what I'm saying, It's not
Speaker 2: so clear cut. So yeah, Osama was a piece of shit.
Speaker 2: I don't believe he was behind nine to eleven. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's messy, not fully.
Speaker 4: And that's not to say that the United States isn't
Speaker 4: behind radicalizing this guy to begin with, you know, because
Speaker 4: we are not innocent when it comes to radicalizing different
Speaker 4: groups people and not only radicalizing them, but giving them
Speaker 4: funding that they need in order to carry out heinous
Speaker 4: ax so that we can in turn go, oh shit,
Speaker 4: look what they did over there.
Speaker 3: We better go regime change real quick.
Speaker 1: Oh look what's going on in Venezuela right now?
Speaker 4: Like so, and this is I'm surprised it took this
Speaker 4: long for this one to come up. Yeah, give me
Speaker 4: your take on this, because honestly, I have I have,
Speaker 4: I have some beef with this that's going down right now.
Speaker 4: And like, if we can go and do this and
Speaker 4: take this guy out in the middle of the night
Speaker 4: with the people that he had protecting him and everything,
Speaker 4: why don't we.
Speaker 3: Have any arrests?
Speaker 4: Why don't why don't we go in sweep in and
Speaker 4: take some people on our own homeland here, like the
Speaker 4: arrest that we were promised when Donald Trump was running.
Speaker 4: And let's take that a step Further, if we're allowed
Speaker 4: to do or able and capable of doing this, why
Speaker 4: on the fuck did net Yahoo just completely take out
Speaker 4: an entire civilization like ethnically cleanse an area when he
Speaker 4: could have just kicked to the leaders and did what
Speaker 4: we did in Venezuela, Like why did we have to
Speaker 4: kill shit ton of babies and children?
Speaker 1: So Net and Yahoo did that? Remember the pager incident?
Speaker 4: Oh that's right, yes, But at the same time, we're
Speaker 4: fucking stomping babies heads in Okay, and not we he
Speaker 4: he he we, the figuratively we, because the United States
Speaker 4: is kind of turning a blind eye on this one for.
Speaker 1: Sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: So all right, to get to Venezuela here, what is
Speaker 2: my take on it. I was never a fan of Maduro.
Speaker 1: I do think that he was a piece of shit
Speaker 1: human being. Okay, now that being said, there are tons
Speaker 1: of leaders of tons of countries right now that are
Speaker 1: also raging pieces of shit that I believe, for moral reasons,
Speaker 1: should be deposed. Okay, cool, but they're not closer, right Mexicano.
Speaker 2: Mexico's a great example, but I mean, hell, half of Africa.
Speaker 2: I feel like, if you were to do a change
Speaker 2: there and put in somebody, and I don't mean somebody
Speaker 2: who's more favorable to America. I mean somebody who's gonna
Speaker 2: treat their people like human beings. That would be pretty dope.
Speaker 2: I'm here for that. It's not gonna happen because we
Speaker 2: benefit nothing from that. That's all it really comes down
Speaker 2: to here. Okay, So let's backtrack a bit. Two thousand
Speaker 2: and two, Hugo Chavez took over Venezuela and they were
Speaker 2: a powerhouse as far as the world stage was concerned.
Speaker 2: They were in the top ten as far as their
Speaker 2: economy was concerned.
Speaker 1: They got more gold than all the mines in.
Speaker 2: Africa combined, they got more oil than Saudi Arabia, and
Speaker 2: they are right close to the number one superpower on Earth.
Speaker 2: It's a little skipping a hop across the Caribbean to
Speaker 2: be in bed with US as far as trade is concerned.
Speaker 2: They didn't really need much of a strong military because
Speaker 2: nobody's trying to attack Venezuela, right it was. It was
Speaker 2: all good, all hunky dory. Hugo Chavez took over and
Speaker 2: pretty much for two years, all you had to do
Speaker 2: was just grow what he already had cut to he
Speaker 2: decides to turn his nation into a socialist nation. Two
Speaker 2: thousand and four, America tries to come in and spearhead
Speaker 2: a revolution, doesn't really take, doesn't really take. It was
Speaker 2: a big swing and a miss on our part, but
Speaker 2: at least we tried, right, which if you look at
Speaker 2: South America from nineteen fifty to now, there's been like
Speaker 2: twenty revolutions that the CIA has directly had their hands
Speaker 2: involved in, and Venezuela was that way in two thousand
Speaker 2: and four.
Speaker 1: It didn't work.
Speaker 2: Chavez came back even more socialists than ever before, and
Speaker 2: in the course of I would I'm just for sake
Speaker 2: of argument, I'll say six years. But he did this
Speaker 2: up until his death in twenty thirteen. He turned his
Speaker 2: nation that was overtly prosperous, overtly successful.
Speaker 1: All of the things were looking green lights.
Speaker 2: He turned it into a dystopian reality for these people
Speaker 2: to where they were starving. I have homies that are
Speaker 2: from Venezuela. Bro They were waiting to get their food.
Speaker 2: You can't just go to the store and buy food
Speaker 2: because nobody's got money, nobody's got jobs. All of these
Speaker 2: jobs at these drilling facilities, these mining facilities, whatever else
Speaker 2: were taken over by the state and shut down. So
Speaker 2: now nobody's got jobs, nobody's got money. So now you're
Speaker 2: waiting on your food shipment to get in from the government,
Speaker 2: and you might get a bag of groceries. The milk
Speaker 2: expired two weeks ago, the bread's got all the mold
Speaker 2: on it, the canned goods expired two years ago, and like,
Speaker 2: that's what the government's giving you to survive this month.
Speaker 2: Fucking deal with it, right, So they had all the
Speaker 2: capabilities to fix that. Instead, Chavez ran his country into
Speaker 2: the ground, nosedive style, because that's how socialism work. It
Speaker 2: doesn't right, cut too. Maduro his bus driver. That's Maduro's
Speaker 2: background into politics and all that. He was Chavez's bus driver.
Speaker 2: He had no background in politics, no background in military.
Speaker 2: He was just a yes man enough and sucked Chaves
Speaker 2: his dick so hard and so good that before has died,
Speaker 2: he gave him the crown, so to speak. And Maduro
Speaker 2: did a lot of heinous shit against crimes against humanity
Speaker 2: of his own people too. Okay, cool, So I don't
Speaker 2: have a problem with him being deposed in that regard.
Speaker 2: The issue that I have is the reason why Okay,
Speaker 2: it wasn't for moral reasons, and it wasn't because of fentanyl,
Speaker 2: which comes from China. And it wasn't because of cocaine,
Speaker 2: which comes from Colombia Nicaragua. And it wasn't from the
Speaker 2: drug cartels. Because although Venezuela does have two pretty big cartels,
Speaker 2: Mexico has like all of the fucking cartels. We haven't
Speaker 2: done shit for them or against them, I should say, dude,
Speaker 2: they have been operating in America for quite some time.
Speaker 1: Yo, Trende or rawua is A is a bad group.
Speaker 2: I'm not denying that they're not public enemy number one
Speaker 2: as far as who's causing more deaths in this country.
Speaker 2: Neither is the cartel to Soul right, which is like
Speaker 2: their paramilitary cartel.
Speaker 1: That's a Venezuela thing.
Speaker 2: They don't have a a massive foothold in America.
Speaker 4: So you're saying, your issue is the reason we went
Speaker 4: in there, not that we went in there, because on
Speaker 4: the flip side, on the tails side of the Trump
Speaker 4: derangement syndrome, they're saying that, you know, the people that
Speaker 4: are Trump can do no good, is that he shouldn't
Speaker 4: have been there, We shouldn't have done this in the
Speaker 4: first place, not realizing that Biden also.
Speaker 3: Had a bounty on Maduro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is this is the argument I want
Speaker 4: to make to the Republicans that are on the head
Speaker 4: side of the Trump arrangement syndrome coin that Trump can
Speaker 4: do no wrong by anybody and is like, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 4: I get in there and take that motherfucker out.
Speaker 3: Well, how would that?
Speaker 4: How would you guys feel if China decided to come
Speaker 4: in when Joe Biden stole our presidency and was an
Speaker 4: illegitimate leader, how would like, I don't give a fuck,
Speaker 4: Like I'm all for getting rid of by and doing
Speaker 4: it and yeah, fuck you, But if China or Russia
Speaker 4: was to come into our country and take and kidnap
Speaker 4: Joe Biden, I'd have something to fucking say about.
Speaker 1: It, for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And so what that's With that
Speaker 2: being said, I also believe the Maduro gave himself over.
Speaker 2: And the reason why I believe this is because they
Speaker 2: brought his wife with him. Typically, historically speaking, when you
Speaker 2: go in and take out the bad guy and you
Speaker 2: bag and tag him and you bring him in for
Speaker 2: for you know, prison sentence or execution or whatever else,
Speaker 2: his wife is not arrested with him arrested quote unquote.
Speaker 2: I am currently of the believer right what yo. I've
Speaker 2: talked to people like, well, you know, she was involved
Speaker 2: with all of it, this and this.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, if Trump gets brought down for impeachment, are
Speaker 1: they also gonna arraign Ivanka Trump for her involvement.
Speaker 2: In his shady business dealings. That's not how this works.
Speaker 2: That's not how any of this works. So why would
Speaker 2: they bag and tag his wife too? She wasn't the mastermind,
Speaker 2: She wasn't even his second in command.
Speaker 1: She was the wife.
Speaker 2: So I am of the belief currently that Maduro knew
Speaker 2: what was going down, knew it was about to go down,
Speaker 2: and signed a deal. This was like the quid pro quote,
Speaker 2: and he was arrested quote unquote.
Speaker 1: In reality, he willingly came over.
Speaker 2: He already knew what time was as soon as he
Speaker 2: heard the helicopters going off. Only thirty two of his
Speaker 2: guards were killed, and all of them were Cuban for
Speaker 2: the record, not a single Venezuelan.
Speaker 1: That's interesting in and of itself.
Speaker 2: And then all of the Venezuelan guards are saying that
Speaker 2: they got hit with sound wave technology sounds like they
Speaker 2: ran and hit for a bit until the choppers went away.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying the sound technology doesn't work. It
Speaker 2: absolutely does. There's examples of that. But also is that
Speaker 2: really what happened? Or did the Venezuelan guard see the
Speaker 2: birds come in and they're like, E I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: go I'm gonna go a shit real quick and I'll
Speaker 2: be back in a minute.
Speaker 1: Oh, what do you mean he's gone what? I don't know?
Speaker 4: And they were They were most likely given the memo
Speaker 4: of what was about to go down and knew that
Speaker 4: he was in on it and was willingly giving himself up.
Speaker 4: Like you said, let the other people take the bullets,
Speaker 4: and then and then we can have a twofer and
Speaker 4: a two for one, and now we can brag about
Speaker 4: this crazy weaponry that the Americans have, so that now
Speaker 4: we have this a new boogeyman to scare the shit
Speaker 4: out of people with, so that they don't even try
Speaker 4: to fuck with us.
Speaker 2: Which we've had the sound wave technology since the late
Speaker 2: nineties early two thousands.
Speaker 1: Fuck. I remember it being on an episode of Future
Speaker 1: Weapons on Discovery. Do you remember that show, dude, bro?
Speaker 4: I remember they fucking announced a heart attack gun back.
Speaker 1: In the fifties, thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we have whatever crazy tech you think is
Speaker 2: only in James Bond movies. No, no, no, the American military
Speaker 2: industrial complex has it and can scale it to whatever
Speaker 2: level you want.
Speaker 1: We've been had that, that's nothing new.
Speaker 2: And I mean you could look at the riots that
Speaker 2: took place in not Siberia, uh Serbia, right, these these
Speaker 2: protests that were happening in the streets. They flew a
Speaker 2: drone over firing sound waves at it, and you see
Speaker 2: the crowd disperse.
Speaker 1: Okay, So like we've already had this.
Speaker 3: They have trucks.
Speaker 4: They have trucks that do the same thing with the
Speaker 4: loudspeakers on them that it gives off a frequency that
Speaker 4: is you it's immobilizing, so you either run from it
Speaker 4: or you just drop. And you're right, this is not
Speaker 4: something new. This is but you say the Americans have
Speaker 4: this crazy new boogeyman weapon. You know, it's like, of course,
Speaker 4: like it's a two for one man, like, yeah, let's
Speaker 4: let's get this going. And and you know this has
Speaker 4: been Trump's thing, bro, this has been Trump's thing. It's
Speaker 4: like we'll make a public arrest. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, we'll make sure that you're set up,
Speaker 4: you know. I think that that's the same thing that
Speaker 4: happened with Islane Maxwell. I don't think that Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 4: is even dead.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think that. Uh shit, there's a another one
Speaker 4: that I don't think is dead either. But besides the point, like,
Speaker 4: I have a feeling that this is kind of Trump's
Speaker 4: negotiation tool for optics.
Speaker 2: And I honestly don't believe they had anything to do
Speaker 2: with Maduro's treatment of his people. I think it had
Speaker 2: a lot to do with China and Russia. Actually, I
Speaker 2: think this was a five D chess move that was
Speaker 2: played to the public as if it was for the
Speaker 2: righteous reasons.
Speaker 1: In reality, this was a hit against bricks.
Speaker 3: So Blackrock a hit against bricks.
Speaker 4: Blackrock just formed a USO R, which is an oil coin,
Speaker 4: which is supposed to go live February first, and we
Speaker 4: just got how many billions of barrels of oil in
Speaker 4: doing this too. So this goes in tokenizing because because
Speaker 4: the dollar's crashing, you know, we can pretend that it's
Speaker 4: not all we want. But Trump's not stupid, and he's
Speaker 4: setting us up for or us. He's setting up a
Speaker 4: new system that we're going to transition into. And I
Speaker 4: think it has a lot to do with this Venezuela thing.
Speaker 1: I think it does. I think this is just the
Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg, at least the Home Maduro situation. Right. So,
Speaker 1: as well as this was.
Speaker 2: A hit against China, because China has had their eye
Speaker 2: on Venezuelan's Venezuela's resources for.
Speaker 1: A good while now, which is nothing new.
Speaker 2: Right when the oil industry crashed as far as America
Speaker 2: was concerned in twenty sixteen, I have buddies that were
Speaker 2: working in Democratic Republica of the Congo and Nigeria for Chevron.
Speaker 2: The barrels cost went down like rock bottom, so America
Speaker 2: couldn't afford to send their people to Africa to dreu
Speaker 2: for oil anymore.
Speaker 1: They came home and Chinese.
Speaker 2: Affiliates, officials, whatever term you want to put China moved
Speaker 2: in when America moved out. Because that's how this works.
Speaker 2: China understands the writing on the walls. They fucked themselves
Speaker 2: out of their number one asset with that one child policy.
Speaker 2: Their one asset was their insane amount of number of
Speaker 2: human beings.
Speaker 1: They fucked themselves out.
Speaker 2: Of that so bad that they understand that in twenty years,
Speaker 2: thirty years, their labor force isn't gonna be there. So
Speaker 2: they understand that they have to tighten the noose around
Speaker 2: the world on an economic and business standpoint rather than
Speaker 2: a military in wartime.
Speaker 1: So that's what they've been doing very strategically for the
Speaker 1: past few years.
Speaker 2: That's how this whole Belton Road initiative also ties in,
Speaker 2: which we can go into the whole situation with Iran
Speaker 2: and Pakistan and their border situation last year. That also
Speaker 2: very much ties into China and the Belton Roade initiative whatever.
Speaker 2: So China has been i in Venezuela's resources for years
Speaker 2: and years and years, and Maduro was really looking forward
Speaker 2: to making those Chinese dollar bills right cut two Russia
Speaker 2: because of all the sanctions and because the entire world
Speaker 2: wants the situation in Ukraine and Russia to end right
Speaker 2: for whatever reason however it needs to happen.
Speaker 1: Enough's enough. The people that are making money off of
Speaker 1: it have made their money, and now it's getting to
Speaker 1: a point to where they can no longer hide the
Speaker 1: human rights violations. Like we got to wrap this shit up. Boys,
Speaker 1: it's time to put a bow on it.
Speaker 2: But nobody is willing to capitulate because everybody's got their
Speaker 2: pride involved with it. So now Russia was also eyeing
Speaker 2: Venezuelan oil because nobody's willing to buy Russian oil because
Speaker 2: of the crazy sanctions. Because Trump wasn't just talking sanctions,
Speaker 2: he was putting one hundred and fifty five percent on
Speaker 2: countries because they wouldn't play his ball. Like, Yo, Trump
Speaker 2: is not that guy. Say what you want about him.
Speaker 2: Is he a raging piece of shit?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Does he get results, whether that's good results or bad results? Also, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of his thing. He stirs the pot. He
Speaker 2: loves stirring that pot.
Speaker 4: He wrote the book The Art of the Deal, and
Speaker 4: he based it off of the Art of War. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and the guy is focused. Man, he's a warhawk when
Speaker 4: it comes to business. He wants to close deals. So
Speaker 4: he's looking at the United States as he should. I
Speaker 4: mean as far as a business owner standpoint, like where
Speaker 4: can we gain ground as a business? Where do you
Speaker 4: think he's going with this greenland thing? Because I've been
Speaker 4: I got no idea.
Speaker 1: I have been trying to wrap my head around it.
Speaker 2: But to break down what you just said, for decades
Speaker 2: American said we want a businessman to run America like
Speaker 2: a business and put us back on the right footing.
Speaker 2: And then we get the businessman, the fucking businessman in charge.
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, y'all don't like it because
Speaker 2: he plays ugly, he plays dirty hardball, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how business works.
Speaker 1: This is this is moneys and dollars and figures. The
Speaker 1: morals and decency are so far removed from the conversation.
Speaker 2: That is not what we're talking about here. We're talking
Speaker 2: straight statistics and math. Matt, don't give a fuck about
Speaker 2: your feelings, So right off the rip, that's a thing
Speaker 2: second second tier on that. I think the Venezuela conversation,
Speaker 2: a part of that was political, a part of it
Speaker 2: was for the optics, and a part of it was
Speaker 2: five D chess that we're not gonna see play out
Speaker 2: for another probably five years. In about five years, we're
Speaker 2: gonna be like, damn, I'm so glad that this happened,
Speaker 2: because this and this and this played out with it too. Now,
Speaker 2: as long as America doesn't go into Venezuela and tried
Speaker 2: to nation build because we suck at that. We are
Speaker 2: really good at military shit, we suck at nation building
Speaker 2: that we don't have it within our tool belt. So
Speaker 2: as long as they, the Venezuelans, can take charge of
Speaker 2: their own country and revitalize their industries on their terms,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be fucking dope. If America gets in there
Speaker 2: and tries to revitalize their government for them, it's fucked.
Speaker 1: It's so fucked ten ways to Sunday, it's fucked.
Speaker 2: But anyway, cutting two the Greenland conversation, brother, I have
Speaker 2: tried breaking this down by every metric that makes sense.
Speaker 2: If we're talking about land mass, Sure, they got a
Speaker 2: lot of land, most of it is unusable permafrost ice block. Okay,
Speaker 2: they have a population of under six thousand people. They
Speaker 2: don't have unless, as of what we know right now,
Speaker 2: they don't have some sort of rare earths that would
Speaker 2: make it a super viable position. Once upon a time,
Speaker 2: we had a line of military outposts across Greenland with
Speaker 2: radar systems because we were trying to watch if Russia
Speaker 2: was gonna make the Soviet Union rather was gonna make
Speaker 2: an attack on us from the north. So we had
Speaker 2: a string of radar outposts across Greenland. We have satellites
Speaker 2: now that can see all this shit well before the
Speaker 2: radar systems will see it, So there's no purpose to
Speaker 2: us having some sort of military outposts across Greenland. Satellites
Speaker 2: have negated the need for radar systems. On that point,
Speaker 2: I cannot find any viable reason why the United States
Speaker 2: needs Greenland for military, or for economic or for geopolitical
Speaker 2: clout unless is a big asterisk, unless Greenland has some
Speaker 2: sort of proven reserves or mineral deposits of rare earths
Speaker 2: that they are not being public about right now because
Speaker 2: of the target that it would put on their back,
Speaker 2: which could be could be.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, I think that might be what
Speaker 1: Trump's trying to move in for. But other than that,
Speaker 1: I can't find a fucking reason.
Speaker 3: Dude, Am I frozen on your end? Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Okay, you froze up a couple of times, but no,
Speaker 1: you're good.
Speaker 3: Okay, as long as you can hear me, that's all good.
Speaker 4: So I was kind of hoping that you would come
Speaker 4: through with a strategic aspect that I'm not seeing because
Speaker 4: of your military background.
Speaker 3: Maybe, you know.
Speaker 4: Like if we had bases there we could reach with
Speaker 4: missile capabilities certain areas that he wants to have a
Speaker 4: stronghold on.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe, but even still last year we gave
Speaker 2: the UK nukes to hold on to for us, So like,
Speaker 2: whatever capabilities we need reach for, we've got it already.
Speaker 4: I think that there's a resource there that we're not
Speaker 4: aware of, And I think that's the only thing that
Speaker 4: makes sense. Is there some sort of resource there that
Speaker 4: we're not aware of?
Speaker 2: Well, there is always the black pill option, right, So
Speaker 2: any war game or end of world catastrophe simulation you
Speaker 2: will ever run, somehow Greenland will be the last Lamb
Speaker 2: mask standing.
Speaker 1: And there's multiple reasons for that one.
Speaker 2: There's only like two airports in the country that are
Speaker 2: like international, they have a very low population, it's very
Speaker 2: cold there. Uh, there's a lot of land that is
Speaker 2: being unused right now. So for instance, let's just say
Speaker 2: hypothetically COVID was the scary plague that they tried to
Speaker 2: make it out to be just for shits and gigs.
Speaker 2: Let's pretend like legitimately, if you caught COVID, you had
Speaker 2: like a fifty shot of dying. Fifty shot, right, Greenland
Speaker 2: would be one of the last areas affected, and even
Speaker 2: when it did get hit, it wouldn't have gotten hit
Speaker 2: hard because of the dispersement of land versus population, how
Speaker 2: cold it is, all of these things. Their nation is
Speaker 2: under sixty thousand people. My city has more than sixty
Speaker 2: thousand people in it, and I'm in bump fuck nowhere
Speaker 2: as Ville, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So for this massive nation
Speaker 1: to have that, there is an argument.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I agree with this, but it is
Speaker 2: at least it's a point to say that Trump is
Speaker 2: trying to take over Greenland because that is going to
Speaker 2: be the new Alamo for the world when the next
Speaker 2: big catastrophe happens, and he wants that to be an
Speaker 2: American Alamo.
Speaker 4: I don't know, well, I could see that also, you know,
Speaker 4: because Trump, with his ego and the way that he
Speaker 4: thinks is like I'm the one that did that. I
Speaker 4: can definitely see that because he would go down in
Speaker 4: the history books if ever was. But let's get conspiratorial
Speaker 4: here a little bit, because I know that you think
Speaker 4: flat earthers are retarded as fucks. You talking to a
Speaker 4: full blown retard right here, Okay, And I want to
Speaker 4: bring this up. If we could go into space, why
Speaker 4: are these rich motherfuckers building.
Speaker 2: Bunkers because they haven't made a viable colony outside of
Speaker 2: our planet yet. I also think that's why Musk is
Speaker 2: fighting tooth and nail to be the first person to
Speaker 2: colonize Mars. And also why Russia, China, and America are
Speaker 2: trying to build a lunar base right now, power by
Speaker 2: nuclear power. I think all of that ties in.
Speaker 3: Okay, I just wanted to know your take.
Speaker 4: I don't want to go down the whole rabbit hole
Speaker 4: of flat versus round debate because.
Speaker 3: I honestly don't know.
Speaker 4: And my opinion is that we live in a simulated, flat,
Speaker 4: hollowed out realm.
Speaker 1: And that's fair. I'm not trying to fight you on
Speaker 1: that right now.
Speaker 2: But I also think it's interesting how if you look
Speaker 2: at Elon Musk's business moves, every single one of them
Speaker 2: can be connected to colonizing Mars. He has an underground
Speaker 2: boring company because you're gonna need to make underground bases
Speaker 2: when you get to Mars. He has a space company
Speaker 2: because you need that when you get to Mars. He
Speaker 2: has electronic car manufacturing companies. Because those are the only
Speaker 2: vehicles that are gonna work on the surface of Mars.
Speaker 2: He has AI robot companies because those are gonna be
Speaker 2: your slave workforce when you get to Mars and try
Speaker 2: to make things happen. Like all of it ties into
Speaker 2: him truly trying to get to Mars.
Speaker 1: But I don't believe it's to save humanity. I actually
Speaker 1: believe it's more for business reasons.
Speaker 2: I actually know two rocket scientists and one rocket engineer
Speaker 2: that we're working with SpaceX on His was that the
Speaker 2: Hercules four rockets. I forget, it's been a minus since
Speaker 2: I talked to them. I should reach out, But anyway,
Speaker 2: they were actually working on components of these rockets, and
Speaker 2: whenever I ask them, what's the push here? Is it
Speaker 2: just for the bragging rights to say that he's the
Speaker 2: one that colonized Mars? Like, no, No, it's because they
Speaker 2: have crystallized methanol on Mars and they know it, and
Speaker 2: whoever gets there first can claim the entire planet. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, what do you mean? So whoever out
Speaker 2: there doesn't know what methanol is. We also would call
Speaker 2: this LNG liquid natural gas, right, it is when you
Speaker 2: take natural gas methane and you condense it down and
Speaker 2: compress it down to a liquid state, it becomes methanol.
Speaker 2: Asian countries are using this as a fuel source the
Speaker 2: same way that Americans are using something called ethanol, right,
Speaker 2: except methanol is more clean burning. It doesn't gum up
Speaker 2: your carburetors and things like this. Mars has a lot
Speaker 2: of crystallized methanol on their surface.
Speaker 1: How did it get there? Why to get there? We
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: We can argue about that one day, But right now,
Speaker 2: if Musk gets there first and builds a colony and
Speaker 2: starts mining for this methanol, and then builds a processing
Speaker 2: factory or facility, I should say, to make a fuel
Speaker 2: source out of it, he will have privatized space exploration.
Speaker 2: Because the hardest part of getting to space, if we
Speaker 2: believe the globe bottle is breaking through our atmosphere, once
Speaker 2: you get to Mars, there's no atmosphere. It doesn't take
Speaker 2: nearly as much effort to get off of Mars as
Speaker 2: it does to get off of Earth. So basically, if
Speaker 2: we can get from Earth to Mars, use that as
Speaker 2: a launching platform and then use the fuel source that's
Speaker 2: already there, we don't have to bring fuel with us
Speaker 2: to get from wherever we're going. We can refuel on Mars,
Speaker 2: and we could use that to explore the entirety of
Speaker 2: the Solar system, giving him a cut of everything from
Speaker 2: the top to the bottom. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: eln you, being the business guy that you are, what's
Speaker 2: the possibility of you trying to do this to save
Speaker 2: the humanity and what's the possibility of you doing this
Speaker 2: to become the richest guy to ever exist on Earth?
Speaker 1: Period? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can see that, and I can see exactly where
Speaker 4: you're going with it. I just don't look at Mars
Speaker 4: the same way that you do. I believe that Mars
Speaker 4: is a place. I just don't believe that it is
Speaker 4: beyond beyond on the firmament that we can't get past,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: And for that that is.
Speaker 4: Definitely a full blown podcast that we could spend hours
Speaker 4: on at another point in time. But I firmly believe
Speaker 4: that space is faking gay. But I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: Mars doesn't exist. It just doesn't exist in the same
Speaker 4: way that I believe it to exist.
Speaker 1: And you might be right, So honestly.
Speaker 3: That'd be.
Speaker 4: And you might be right, you know, and you know what,
Speaker 4: and that's a debate that that's a debate that I
Speaker 4: refuse to get into with people in my personal lives anymore,
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, when I lay
Speaker 4: my head on that pillow, I don't give two fux
Speaker 4: what anybody thinks the shape of the Earth is.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: I've I've had to do that with a few people
Speaker 2: who like that is their whole thing is the Earth
Speaker 2: being flat, And.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, cool that that could be a belief of yours.
Speaker 2: But like you understand, you telling the world about this information,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Everybody still has to go to work
Speaker 2: Monday morning, Like everybody still has to pay their taxes
Speaker 2: at the of the year.
Speaker 1: Like it this doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, because then you'll see your whole perspective
Speaker 2: shifts and you could like rig the game. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying, and I'm not negating how
Speaker 2: perspective does make reality a thing around you. And like
Speaker 2: I feel that I do, But that doesn't take away
Speaker 2: from your boss being a dickhead to you at work tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Like you see what I'm saying, the same what you're
Speaker 2: saying like when you go to bed at night, it
Speaker 2: doesn't actually make a mole hills difference. But some people
Speaker 2: like that is their whole shtick. And it's like, I'm yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Sure, I get it.
Speaker 4: I get it, and you know, and I've I've stood
Speaker 4: my ground and I've been on debate shows, I've debated friends.
Speaker 4: I've lost friends because they're like, I can't believe you're
Speaker 4: retarded enough to believe in such stupid shit or you know,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna tell you this, Like my relationship, my
Speaker 4: friendships with people, it's not that important that I'm gonna
Speaker 4: lose a friendship whether or not you believe the same
Speaker 4: thing that I do.
Speaker 3: You know, that's retarded.
Speaker 4: Like I'm friends with people that don't like the same
Speaker 4: sports teams that I like. I'm friends with people that
Speaker 4: aren't Christian. I'm Christian. That doesn't mean I can't be
Speaker 4: friends with you and we can't have different opinions. And
Speaker 4: the fact that these people will go to war, man, yeah,
Speaker 4: they will draw their fucking line in the sand. And
Speaker 4: it's like, this is where I stand.
Speaker 3: And if you're not here by the end of the day,
Speaker 3: then where one of us is fucking bleeding.
Speaker 4: It's like why why, But yeah, you know it's I
Speaker 4: guess you're just so attached to that that I don't know, Man,
Speaker 4: I was there, Like, I would love to get into
Speaker 4: these debates with people, but once that camera's off and
Speaker 4: I'm walking my dog, I don't give a fuck with
Speaker 4: that person's thinking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And in one sense, I feel like.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are of that belief right, Like it's.
Speaker 2: Fun to have these debates, and especially in the Christian
Speaker 2: uh since right, because I've I've we have multiple Christian
Speaker 2: flat earthers that have been on our show. How Josh
Speaker 2: Monday is an affiliate of ours and it's not a yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we fucking love Josh one of the best human beings
Speaker 2: alive honestly in my opinion, But this isn't a salvation issue.
Speaker 2: Therefore it's not worth fighting over. It's fun to debate,
Speaker 2: it's fun to have open form conversations and we can
Speaker 2: agree to disagree, we can.
Speaker 1: Get into the thick of it.
Speaker 2: Wait whatever, whatever, it doesn't take away from Jesus, so
Speaker 2: like it doesn't actually fucking matter, but like it's fun
Speaker 2: to talk about. It's the same thing with Nephlom, big dog. Okay,
Speaker 2: I do believe the Nephilam were a real thing, and
Speaker 2: I believe their bloodline carries through today all the stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, one percent. They're only mentioned in like ten verses
Speaker 1: in the entire Bible. But there are people that act
Speaker 1: like that is.
Speaker 4: Right, right, right, because if you go in the Book
Speaker 4: of Enoch, the Book of joshure like, and I've looked
Speaker 4: in the Cancel of Nicias said, hey, that's gonna kind
Speaker 4: of fuck up what we're trying to do here.
Speaker 3: Let's not bring those in.
Speaker 2: And I've looked into the Book of Enoch, dude, and
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a forgery, but I'm saying that
Speaker 2: it doesn't tie into the rest of the story. And
Speaker 2: even if it did, it's not. It doesn't add or
Speaker 2: take away from Jesus. It's not a salvation issue, is
Speaker 2: my thing. That's that's the thing. So we could debate it,
Speaker 2: we could talk about it in the deeper meaning and
Speaker 2: the bloodlines and demon spawns and all the stuff. I'm
Speaker 2: here for it, but it's nothing that right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, but it's not something that we need to
Speaker 2: like draw a line in the sand about and like
Speaker 2: cut ties and cut relationships with because this person doesn't
Speaker 2: believe in Enoch and this person does. It's like it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter in the grand scheme of shit about what
Speaker 2: is going to get somebody into heaven or not.
Speaker 1: It's you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Oh, I totally agree with you, brother, and I have
Speaker 4: so many Christian friends that will get you know. I
Speaker 4: just had Hank Parish on and he thought he was
Speaker 4: coming on my show to have a heavy debate with
Speaker 4: me about baptism because you know, I'm taking my time
Speaker 4: and I'm going to do it when I want to
Speaker 4: do it, and I have a very specific person that
Speaker 4: is going to do Josh Monday is going to be
Speaker 4: the person that baptized.
Speaker 1: Hell YEAHNK.
Speaker 4: And Hank's like, man, just go to one of your
Speaker 4: churches and get it done tomorrow. Like what do you
Speaker 4: get a car accident? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I came.
Speaker 3: On my show.
Speaker 4: He came on my show and he thought he was
Speaker 4: going to come on and have a hefty debate with
Speaker 4: me about the importance and he was ready to draw
Speaker 4: that line in the sand and go to war with me.
Speaker 4: And I just brought him on and I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm interested. Why do you think the way that you think?
Speaker 4: And I kind of sat back and crossed my arms
Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, cool, I like your perspective.
Speaker 4: I like, at the end of the day, I'm still
Speaker 4: going to do what I do. I will get baptized
Speaker 4: when I'm good and ready. I don't think that I
Speaker 4: should baptize myself till I finish the Bible, like with
Speaker 4: the mind state that I have now, not the little
Speaker 4: kid Bible or not the little kid in mind that
Speaker 4: I had, Yeah, going to church and still like that,
Speaker 4: like I have discernment now.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of years put under my belt.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what.
Speaker 3: I want to know what I'm signing myself.
Speaker 1: Up for a war. I'm gonna be honest with you,
Speaker 1: signing yourself.
Speaker 3: Up for a war, I get that.
Speaker 4: But you know in hindsight and and you know, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna fucking I'm not gonna go buy something without
Speaker 4: knowing what it is that I'm getting first is what
Speaker 4: is what I'm saying, you know. And it's like, I'm
Speaker 4: not just gonna run out and baptize myself when Mormons
Speaker 4: Jehovah's witnesses, whatever, I could be getting myself into some
Speaker 4: fucked up shit, and I want to know what I'm
Speaker 4: getting myself into first. Sorry, Hank, I love you to death, brother,
Speaker 4: but my salvation is good enough for me. Because there
Speaker 4: was somebody hanging on the cross right next to Jesus
Speaker 4: and he didn't get baptized.
Speaker 2: Dude, that was literally the argument I was gonna make. Yes,
Speaker 2: all right, for anybody listening and for yourself. Here, the
Speaker 2: Bible does tell us to get baptized. Yes, Now, is
Speaker 2: that going to keep you from heaven?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, it is not, because there's multiple examples in the Bible.
Speaker 2: The most notable would be the thief hanging on the
Speaker 2: cross next to Jesus who never got baptized, and at
Speaker 2: the last few moments before he died, accepted Jesus and
Speaker 2: was with him in paradise. Okay, he lived a life
Speaker 2: of sin up until that very moment and found the light.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now, I understand that that also is an exception, and
Speaker 2: we should look at that as the exception, not the rule.
Speaker 2: I get this, but also let's not negate the fact
Speaker 2: that Jesus waited until he was thirty to get baptized.
Speaker 2: The actual son of God waited until he was thirty
Speaker 2: to get baptized. Also worth mentioning, he did that to
Speaker 2: start his ministry. He didn't do that to sanctify himself
Speaker 2: and rid himself of the sins that he didn't commit.
Speaker 2: Because he was Jesus, there was a reason for it.
Speaker 2: So this is also why I have an issue with
Speaker 2: Catholics who baptize babies. Bro that there's they don't That's
Speaker 2: not a thing. That's not a thing anyway.
Speaker 4: If a child dies before thirteen, God, Yeah, if I
Speaker 4: want to go speak the word of God and preach,
Speaker 4: then I should be baptized and I should know that Bible.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: But as a follower of Christ who's not a very
Speaker 4: good one, I will add I try, I pray every day,
Speaker 4: I sin, I fall short all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm working on bettering myself.
Speaker 2: Brother, I say this all the time. I'm a horrible representation.
Speaker 2: I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: But when it comes down to it, I believe that
Speaker 4: my morals are good, and I do my best to
Speaker 4: follow the teachings of Christ and be a good moral person.
Speaker 4: And if I was to get in a car accident
Speaker 4: on my way to work, tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that I'm going to end up on
Speaker 3: the right side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's yeah. So should everybody get baptized, yea,
Speaker 2: when they make the decision that they are ready to
Speaker 2: take that step of faith. That's that's what that's supposed
Speaker 2: to be. It's not supposed to be forced on you.
Speaker 2: It's not supposed to be guilt tripped onto you either, right,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna go to heaven whether you're baptized or
Speaker 2: not as long because God knows your heart. God knows
Speaker 2: your actual heart of hearts. That's that you could and
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Being baptized is an outward expression, that
Speaker 2: is you telling the world where you're at and what
Speaker 2: you're about. God knows where you're at before you ever
Speaker 2: dunk under the water. He knows your heart of hearts,
Speaker 2: and that's who's actually gonna judge you.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's also a contract because when you take that baptism,
Speaker 4: you're saying to God, I am well aware of what
Speaker 4: I am doing from here on out. And so you're
Speaker 4: gonna be held at a higher standard once you are baptized.
Speaker 3: Just know that.
Speaker 4: So if you are ready baptized, then you better be
Speaker 4: able to be ready to walk in that light.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And then also the other side of that is it's okay.
Speaker 2: God knows you're gonna fuck up. He's fully aware of that.
Speaker 2: That's why Jesus came right. And so it's very important
Speaker 2: that we talked about this to a couple episodes ago.
Speaker 2: The prodigal Son, right, he went out and did all
Speaker 2: these crazy things, but he came back. People need to
Speaker 2: understand that he came back though, right. Just because you're
Speaker 2: out there living whatever way, But you prayed a prayer
Speaker 2: one time and you took a little bath one time
Speaker 2: at a church with people watching you, that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that you got the.
Speaker 1: Green light to go do whatever you're gonna do right now.
Speaker 2: Granted, yes, you are washing the blood of Jesus, your
Speaker 2: sin has been erased, and all these things agreed, there
Speaker 2: are still consequences for your actions even after the fact.
Speaker 2: That doesn't go away. Some of those consequences might be
Speaker 2: played out here on earth. Some of them might be
Speaker 2: after the fact, whenever you meet him and stand before
Speaker 2: and face to face, whatever the case is. But the
Speaker 2: prodigal Son is a great example of God's grace, his love,
Speaker 2: his mercy. All these things but the son came back
Speaker 2: to the father's house. I feel like a lot of
Speaker 2: people are still out there living in their wildness, expecting
Speaker 2: that if they died right now, they that is them
Speaker 2: coming home. And it's like, no, no, You've got to
Speaker 2: come back to not not the churches in the brick
Speaker 2: and mortar building. You have to come back to the faith.
Speaker 2: You got to come back into the fold. You gotta
Speaker 2: start walking with Jesus again. That's how that goes. And
Speaker 2: you're gonna fall short, You're gonna fuck up, You're gonna stumble.
Speaker 2: Everybody does.
Speaker 1: You're human.
Speaker 2: It's it's literally built into your DNA code. But you're
Speaker 2: supposed to give it your absolute best effort and God
Speaker 2: knows if you were short changing it or not.
Speaker 1: That's the point.
Speaker 4: But and if you do fall short, you guys can
Speaker 4: always rely on Wednesday and Sunday. You can tune in
Speaker 4: to the Cult of Conspiracy and have the read alongs.
Speaker 4: Because Josh Monday does Bible book studies. Every Wednesday he
Speaker 4: is reading from the New Testament and every Sunday he's
Speaker 4: reading from the Old Testament. And I will be damned
Speaker 4: if we're not going to finish that book by the
Speaker 4: end of the year.
Speaker 3: Pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I haven't Is he actually trying to finish it all
Speaker 2: in one year or is he kind of like breaking
Speaker 2: it down?
Speaker 4: I think I think we passed the year. He's been
Speaker 4: He's been with you guys for over a year, if
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: Yes I was.
Speaker 4: I was short lived doing my episodes and we started
Speaker 4: around the same time and that.
Speaker 3: Was over a year ago.
Speaker 1: Bro, whenever you're ready for the record, like what the
Speaker 1: offer is on the table.
Speaker 3: I'll be ready, Bro, I'll be ready.
Speaker 4: Like, Man, I've been trying to get this round table
Speaker 4: up off of the ground and I was having issues.
Speaker 4: Now I have a great co host, Anthony Griffeo who
Speaker 4: we were talking about Alex Jones earlier, like he rubs
Speaker 4: elbows with that guy. Like, I'll have great guests and
Speaker 4: I have great chemistry with this guy. Only thing is, man,
Speaker 4: is he doesn't want to bring on females to the
Speaker 4: round tables. And that was the whole thing. And he's like, man,
Speaker 4: females don't belong at the conversation at the table. Why
Speaker 4: you having these kind of conversations? And I was like, Bro,
Speaker 4: we're bringing We're making thought provoking content. We're not fucking
Speaker 4: making world governing decisions here.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait? Why why don't women belong on
Speaker 1: the conversation here? I must have missed this. Is he
Speaker 1: a sexist?
Speaker 2: Or is he going off of that one section where
Speaker 2: it says women aren't supposed to have positions over a
Speaker 2: man or something, because that's also taken out of context
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that are taking out of context.
Speaker 4: And I don't want this to come off as my
Speaker 4: buddy Anthony is a bad guy in any way, shape
Speaker 4: or form. We just don't see eye to eye on
Speaker 4: this one certain thing. And I'm not gonna sit here
Speaker 4: and say why he defends why he defends because I'm
Speaker 4: not one hundred percent sure why. I just know we
Speaker 4: don't see eye to eye on this. So it's been
Speaker 4: hanging us up a little bit. I was going to
Speaker 4: present a show to you, man, I had I had
Speaker 4: this girl and she goes by the Pretty Patriot. She
Speaker 4: was kind of all maga, and then the Epstein Files
Speaker 4: thing happened, and she kind of was quiet on TikTok
Speaker 4: for a while, but she came back. She was like,
Speaker 4: fuck it, we were gonna do a variety show together,
Speaker 4: and that's the show I was going to give to
Speaker 4: the cult of conspiracy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she has fucking.
Speaker 4: Disappeared out of thin air, like two months ago.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: I did all the graphics for the show, I had
Speaker 4: the show name, I made the intro.
Speaker 3: I was ready to rock.
Speaker 4: We were ready to record the first episode, and I
Speaker 4: haven't heard from her.
Speaker 2: Dude, I personally I enjoy hearing from the female perspective, right,
Speaker 2: So in my new co host, Raven Lee, right that,
Speaker 2: whenever Jonathan took off and we brought her on as
Speaker 2: the new co host, I had multiple people like friends
Speaker 2: of mine, like in the real world, right, they reached out.
Speaker 1: We're like, bro, I mean, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: gonna work.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of the big podcasts on Earth, the
Speaker 2: biggest ones don't have female Like you might be fucking
Speaker 2: yourself here, And I'm like, dude, okay, how could I
Speaker 2: break this down? Half of the world's population is female.
Speaker 1: By us not bringing in that, we are sectioning off
Speaker 1: half of our potential listeners right off the rip. And
Speaker 1: that's just bad math. Right.
Speaker 2: Secondly, in the conspiracy community, it used to be a
Speaker 2: boys club. It absolutely used to be all dudes and
Speaker 2: you would have the random token female be a part
Speaker 2: of the conversation and that was a rarity.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: My analytics we are about a sixty to forty split
Speaker 2: as far as male to female goes, and that was
Speaker 2: before Raven Lee ever came on the mic. We are
Speaker 2: getting closer and closer to a fifty to fifty spread
Speaker 2: of male listeners and female listeners. So it only stands
Speaker 2: to reason that this would be a positive move in
Speaker 2: all regards. And some people don't like it. Some people
Speaker 2: think that a female's voice is just oh, I don't
Speaker 2: want to hear from her. Well, well, you're an inceel
Speaker 2: and you probably get disgusted by vagina. I'm sorry that
Speaker 2: you're probably a closet and homosexual. I can't help you
Speaker 2: on that. I really can't, But like, no, I actually
Speaker 2: appreciate no, no, no, not you. I'm saying, like, there's
Speaker 2: people we dude, I haven't checked our comments section in
Speaker 2: quite some time, because honestly, it's it's where.
Speaker 1: Dreams go to die.
Speaker 2: These people, they comment the worst things ever, and they
Speaker 2: don't even realize they're feeding the algorithm, because again, love
Speaker 2: and hate the algorithm clicks the same regardless, So like,
Speaker 2: go for it. Just just shit on it and piss
Speaker 2: and moan in the comments all you want. But it's
Speaker 2: the same haters to listen to every single episode without fail,
Speaker 2: but they'll comment like five comments underneath every episode and
Speaker 2: it's like, cool, you're helping me boost my algorithm through vitriol,
Speaker 2: which whatever. And it's these same people that are like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, why can't we bring the sauceage fest back?
Speaker 1: Fuck these females.
Speaker 2: And it's like, tell me you're gay without telling me
Speaker 2: that you're gay, all right now? I mean cool, dude.
Speaker 2: I mean you're like almost naked. I mean I don't
Speaker 2: that's a youth thing.
Speaker 1: That's cool? Do you?
Speaker 2: But like, it blows my mind, honestly. And there's so
Speaker 2: many more females out there that are making their way
Speaker 2: into the conspiratorial conversation, into the truth or movement, and
Speaker 2: especially with the amount of research that they are able
Speaker 2: to do. Because I'll be honest with you, I am
Speaker 2: of the belief that females make way better investigators than
Speaker 2: men do. And all they have to all they have
Speaker 2: to do is take a personal stance into it, and
Speaker 2: that's it. They're They're wholeheartedly thrown in here. I believe
Speaker 2: they like even cops, like female cops that are on
Speaker 2: the street right now, that's dangerous. There's so many accidental
Speaker 2: shootings from female cops. It's way more than men. However,
Speaker 2: a female in a detective role, she's unmatched. She's unfucking matched.
Speaker 2: No guy's gonna be able to keep up with this chick.
Speaker 2: That's just how they that's how they're built in the
Speaker 2: conspiracy world. Whenever we're digging into crazy deep dives into
Speaker 2: obscure topics and obscure you know, articles from a newspaper
Speaker 2: from bump.
Speaker 1: Fuck.
Speaker 2: Nowhere'sville Tulsa from the nineteen fifties. Oh no, no, she'll
Speaker 2: find it. Oh, she gonna find it.
Speaker 4: And it's like, and there's dots connected that I never
Speaker 4: would have connected without some of these female researchers out there.
Speaker 4: You know, Amy says, what the fuck shit cosmic peach, dude, Like,
Speaker 4: she's put together some of the greatest episodes in piece
Speaker 4: together dots that I never would have been able to
Speaker 4: piece together without her research and just that set of
Speaker 4: a different, different set of.
Speaker 3: Eyes, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and shout out to the haters. Man, I noticed
Speaker 4: that you do get a lot of hate mail, because
Speaker 4: the last time I was on Your Guys' episode, I
Speaker 4: was reading through some of the comments, which I don't
Speaker 4: normally do, but I was seeing what the difference is
Speaker 4: between Your Guys's comments that you get in my comments,
Speaker 4: and man, there was a lot of haters on there.
Speaker 4: And there was one guy that was on there that
Speaker 4: was like worst show ever, And I was like, what
Speaker 4: didn't you like about the show? And I got no response.
Speaker 4: We had three different opinions about everything that we discussed
Speaker 4: on that show. Bro like you, Jonathan, and myself, we
Speaker 4: all hit it from a different angle. And it's like,
Speaker 4: I don't see anybody that was listening to that that
Speaker 4: didn't hear something they could get behind. And so it's
Speaker 4: just people are gonna hate. Haters are gonna hate. I
Speaker 4: say it on my show every single episode, I say,
Speaker 4: please be sure to give a five star review and
Speaker 4: leave a comment, even if it's tell me to go
Speaker 4: fuck myself, because you're still helping me.
Speaker 2: Out basically, And so I honestly can't tell you last
Speaker 2: time I read the comments. I think it was around
Speaker 2: the time when when Jonathan decided to take his leave
Speaker 2: from the show.
Speaker 1: There was three episodes where he decided to try to.
Speaker 2: Debunk the Bible, and you know that't that wasn't the
Speaker 2: best move ever, but like, I respect his opinion on it.
Speaker 1: He tried debunking.
Speaker 2: Adam and Eve, Moses, and Noah's flood, and like half
Speaker 2: of the world's popular believes these stories wholeheartedly. And so
Speaker 2: we had like forty something comments underneath that were not kind,
Speaker 2: and I was reading them to see, like, you know what, maybe,
Speaker 2: cause I don't know, it's very hard when you're looking
Speaker 2: at your analytics to get a litmus test for which
Speaker 2: talking point more of your listeners get down more with, right, So, like,
Speaker 2: as I'm the Christian and he's more of the esoteric guy,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself that, like, probably more of our
Speaker 2: listeners get down on the Christian ideology, maybe not full fledged,
Speaker 2: maybe not even my flavor of it, but more aligned
Speaker 2: with my views and his.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like, maybe I'm the asshole here.
Speaker 2: Maybe the people actually want to hear the Biblical debunking
Speaker 2: and things like that.
Speaker 1: Let me check out the comments.
Speaker 2: Since he was up, brother no knew they were not
Speaker 2: happy with Jonathan whatsoever, and even the haters were actually
Speaker 2: siding with me on those and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I guess that's my answer. We don't have we have
Speaker 2: like a diehard Christian listener base, but we have a
Speaker 2: lot of listeners that felt some.
Speaker 1: Type of way about these topics. That's for goddamn sure.
Speaker 2: So like, all right, fine, And I think that might
Speaker 2: have been the last time I really read the comments
Speaker 2: with like actually trying to see what the people were
Speaker 2: talking about, because dude, the other side of that is
Speaker 2: when you start, and I've heard so many top tier
Speaker 2: podcasters say, never read the comments because you're gonna start
Speaker 2: curtailing yourself and changing how you speak and what you
Speaker 2: talk about and all these things to try to bend
Speaker 2: to the will of them, and they will never be pleased,
Speaker 2: Like the mob will never be satisfied with anything you
Speaker 2: put out. Ever, the haters are gonna hate whether you
Speaker 2: say the sky is blue or the sky is red.
Speaker 2: The same person that's throwing up a middle finger to
Speaker 2: you is gonna do that anyway, because that's like that's
Speaker 2: like their own weird, fucked up dopamine dump. So don't
Speaker 2: even acknowledge that they're there.
Speaker 4: Just do you to respond, right respond, They're like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I got this fucker on the hook, bro, you can't
Speaker 4: be more right. That is where that's where my biggest
Speaker 4: beef with musicians is is because they'll start catering to
Speaker 4: people that are hating on.
Speaker 3: Him and then their music.
Speaker 4: You they lose sight of what made them great in
Speaker 4: the first place, yep, And they're trying to make music
Speaker 4: for what they think people like instead of making music
Speaker 4: from their heart, which is what made us fall in
Speaker 4: love with him in the first place.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And what's that? Oh shit, I wish cermember this
Speaker 1: dude's name.
Speaker 2: He's a YouTuber And it started out with him, you know,
Speaker 2: making a little YouTube contents and he was he was
Speaker 2: doing pretty okay. He got to like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand subscribers, which is solid, good for him,
Speaker 2: good things, But he started bending to the will of
Speaker 2: his comment section, right. He started doing more and more
Speaker 2: outlandish antics to get positivity.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: It started off very innocuous. They want him to wear
Speaker 1: a certain T shirt on camera?
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, cool, And you know, he went from like
Speaker 2: one hundred k views or one hundred k subscribers to
Speaker 2: like two hundred k subscribers because he started basically saying like, hey, I'll.
Speaker 1: Do whatever you want me to do, just put it
Speaker 1: in the comments.
Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, he's doing like muck bong type shit,
Speaker 2: but with like horrible things for his body. He's now
Speaker 2: under thirty and he's had three heart attacks because the
Speaker 2: people keep feeding him like, Hey, we want to watch
Speaker 2: you chug fifty frosties from Wendy's and make a video
Speaker 2: of it. And he does this so consistently, not just
Speaker 2: with these things, but all the things. He's sacrificing his
Speaker 2: actual health to please the comments section. And it's like, brother, no,
Speaker 2: abs a fucking lutely not like but there are so
Speaker 2: many content creators out there that that's what they do. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just gonna if I do check the
Speaker 2: comments on the Rare Blue Moon that I do, it
Speaker 2: might be for like audio quality, right, because if for
Speaker 2: some reason I thought the audio was solid but it
Speaker 2: came out like trash, I want to hear about it
Speaker 2: from them to where if it's early enough. But we
Speaker 2: just posted it and it's in the first couple of hours, Like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, we can go back and re edit some stuff,
Speaker 2: whatever the case will be. But honestly, we've gotten things
Speaker 2: down to such a good place here that we don't
Speaker 2: even need to do that.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm not I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: I'm just not checking the comments. You know.
Speaker 2: If they want to post and have us read it,
Speaker 2: then they comment on Patreon or they DM us there,
Speaker 2: and that's that's pretty much it.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm a firm believer in post and ghosts, and
Speaker 4: I do that on my page a lot. People will
Speaker 4: be even friends will be like, man, I posted on
Speaker 4: your sorry, dude, I have posting ghosts like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't engage like I just don't because a lot
Speaker 4: of the time it's hate. And like I said, once
Speaker 4: they know that they got you on the hook, they're
Speaker 4: gonna say the most hurtful, hateful.
Speaker 3: Things to keep you on the hook. Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: just don't do it. Man.
Speaker 4: I'll say, I'll say what I have to say, and
Speaker 4: I'll leave it up there and walk away from it.
Speaker 4: I do engage every once in a while just to
Speaker 4: get a stir out of somebody, but I always do
Speaker 4: it on somebody else's and I'll like say, say some
Speaker 4: fucked up shit and always true, but I'll do some
Speaker 4: shit stir the pile or stir the pot and walk
Speaker 4: away and never come back to it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it feels good, it does.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it feels good not to engage. I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: it's getting late.
Speaker 3: My brain is kind of Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel that. Yeah, I feel that, brother.
Speaker 2: I will say though we have been commenting on the
Speaker 2: TikTok and the Instagram lately, Ravenlee has been taking charge
Speaker 2: on those, thank god, but every now and then I'll
Speaker 2: drop a comment.
Speaker 1: But it's where I hate making clips. That's a new
Speaker 1: thing that we have to like start doing, is making
Speaker 1: clips and putting them up, and it's like, I fucking
Speaker 1: hate that shit. But anyway, Cataus can't.
Speaker 4: Wait till this is my full time job, bro. That
Speaker 4: then then I can actually do the clips that I
Speaker 4: want to do and give the show the attention that
Speaker 4: it needs.
Speaker 1: I feel that.
Speaker 2: Hell, it is my full time job and I'm just
Speaker 2: now starting to give the clips attention and it's I
Speaker 2: fucking I can't stand it.
Speaker 1: I do love the process.
Speaker 2: I love editing, and I love playing around with different stuff,
Speaker 2: but like, man, I hate that you have to stay
Speaker 2: so consistent with it when I have so many other
Speaker 2: things going on in my day to day life. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I have to section off an extra hour to go
Speaker 2: through and find a thing that I think would be
Speaker 2: an interesting clip to put up on the tiktoks and
Speaker 2: the Instagram and all this and throw in images and
Speaker 2: the stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's like, motherfucker, I just ough's. But that's part
Speaker 1: of the game. It's part of the job, you know.
Speaker 1: Here's what it is anyway, catalyst for any of the
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