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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBSY, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Nicole. Not good news in the

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<v Speaker 2>stock market today, but well you won't even mention it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what's going to happen next. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about that later on tonight. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>at ten o'clock, give you that a little more of

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<v Speaker 2>that in just a moment. My name is Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the host of Nightside here every Monday through Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night from eight until midnight. Rob Brooks, the producer of

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<v Speaker 2>the program, is back in Broadcast Central over in Midford,

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<v Speaker 2>and he will be taking all your phone calls, setting

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<v Speaker 2>you all up when you start to dial the phone,

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<v Speaker 2>which is anytime after at nine o'clock. We have four guest,

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<v Speaker 2>interesting guests and some kind of different funny stories here.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, in this next hour we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to them all interesting that is for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them have some news.

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<v Speaker 2>Value, some of them are just really more just curiosities

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<v Speaker 2>and interest that I enjoy this hour.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you that coming up at nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>will be talking with Boston merriw candidate Josh Kraft about

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<v Speaker 2>the decision by a Superior Court judge that will permit

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<v Speaker 2>the demolition of the old white stadium and the construction

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<v Speaker 2>of a new multimillion dollar at least two hundred million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar stadium in the middle of Franklin Park. We also

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<v Speaker 2>will talk with Professor Greg Styler Boston University School. He

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<v Speaker 2>is he's a business school professor. There, a business school teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, and he will talk about the tariffs

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<v Speaker 2>and the implications. By the way, Greg, who's a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>He's made about fifty trips to China. He trains business people.

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<v Speaker 2>He works at what's called the Questrum School of Business

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<v Speaker 2>at Boston University.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll talk to him at ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>And there may be another topic or two along the way,

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<v Speaker 2>but without any further Ado, let's get directly to our guests.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am delighted to welcome Christopher Caltiviano. Massachusetts high

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<v Speaker 2>school students are developing I guess, thank goodness, some knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>of finances and the economy, so it certainly his timely

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<v Speaker 2>topic to talk with my guest. Christopher Caltabiano, tell us

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<v Speaker 2>about this program. We have I guess some savvy, some

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<v Speaker 2>financially savvy high school students here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me Dan, and I hope that this

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<v Speaker 4>would be considered one of your news stories as opposed

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<v Speaker 4>to an interesting tale, because I think you're given some

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<v Speaker 4>of what we saw today happening. It might be relevant

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<v Speaker 4>to people going forward, very.

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<v Speaker 2>Relevant, absolutely very relevant. So tell us how this is

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<v Speaker 2>a Is this a Massachusetts program or is this Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>students participating in a regional or a national program? Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is a national program. Actually, this will be

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<v Speaker 4>the Massachusetts state program of a national program run by

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<v Speaker 4>my organization, Council for Economic Education, called the National Personal

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<v Speaker 4>Finance Challenge, And we are looking for the best and

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<v Speaker 4>brightest students in the country when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 4>matter of personal finance. So what's going on next week

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<v Speaker 4>here in Massachusetts is going to be the Massachusetts level competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So how do we determine that? How to I

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<v Speaker 2>assume that you're not looking for entrance at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume there must have been some some programs run

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<v Speaker 2>regionally here in Massachusetts. Again, I am unaware of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm asking fairly broad questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, absolutely, and first of all, it's for high school

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<v Speaker 4>level students, so ninth to twelfth graders. We're starting to

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<v Speaker 4>build in Massachusetts, and there's some reasons why we think

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<v Speaker 4>there's room to grow. I can get into in a moment.

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<v Speaker 4>We wa had about six hundred students across the state

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<v Speaker 4>participate in an early round, which is really a test

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<v Speaker 4>primarily about topics of personal finance spending, saving, earning, investing,

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<v Speaker 4>protecting yourself, risk and insurance. There the whole gamut of

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<v Speaker 4>topics when it comes to the personal finance. The best

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<v Speaker 4>performing students and those tests have been advanced now to

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<v Speaker 4>participate in an in person competition that will take place

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<v Speaker 4>next Tuesday fifteenth at MFS Investment Managements Campus in Boston.

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<v Speaker 4>So those top eight teams will be presented with a scenario,

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<v Speaker 4>a family scenario. Mom is does X, Dad does?

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<v Speaker 5>Why they have these kids?

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<v Speaker 4>They have these financial goals, This is what their earnings are,

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<v Speaker 4>These are what their risks are. Build them a financial

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<v Speaker 4>plan and they will have they will have time to

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<v Speaker 4>build that plan and then they will actually present that

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<v Speaker 4>plan to panels of judges from all sorts of companies

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<v Speaker 4>right here in Massachusetts. Will have will have representatives from

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<v Speaker 4>those companies actually judging those students and identifying the strongest.

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<v Speaker 2>Ones winners who will go ahead picked at different grades

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<v Speaker 2>at different levels or is it a winner take all

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<v Speaker 2>high one high school team wins.

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<v Speaker 5>YEP.

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<v Speaker 4>So what'll happen is the top four performing teams of

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<v Speaker 4>those eight will then go onto a quiz bowl round

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<v Speaker 4>where they will be asked kind of, you know, answer

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<v Speaker 4>this question and they will have to respond to that question.

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<v Speaker 4>The top performing team from that will then be crowned

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<v Speaker 4>the Massachusetts state champion. They will then go on to

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<v Speaker 4>the national finals, which are going to be held in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia this year at Voya Financials offices. They're the primary,

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<v Speaker 4>but not exclusive funder of this program. They will compete

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<v Speaker 4>against students from across the country. Will probably have thirty

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<v Speaker 4>five to forty states at minimum represented at that so

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<v Speaker 4>they will compete against their counterparts across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's assume that the Massachusetts kids win it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there some prize that I think that they probably

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<v Speaker 2>should be awarded college scholarships? But I'm sure that's a

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<v Speaker 2>little ambitious. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, our top performers are national champions, will all Actually

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<v Speaker 4>they get cold hard cash. So there are cash awards

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<v Speaker 4>for the top performers in the competition.

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<v Speaker 2>And do they have to pay for their own again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just just a question that is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they pay their transportation and back, they pay their

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<v Speaker 4>way there. But once they're there, we cover all expenses,

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<v Speaker 4>so their hotel, their food, all of that will do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, We'll do some fun events, so they just

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<v Speaker 4>have to get themselves there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, That is great. And when is that weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>When is the championship weekend? I know that this weekend

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<v Speaker 2>is matt March maddeness. When when does your your weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>We have to have a name for it here, April

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<v Speaker 2>Avarice or.

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<v Speaker 3>Money makers go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so April is financial literacy month. So it's a

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<v Speaker 4>good time for us to be doing this at the

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<v Speaker 4>state level. The state competitions are next Tuesday to fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 4>and the national finals will be held June first and second.

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<v Speaker 4>As they said in Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's going to be great, beautiful time of year

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<v Speaker 2>to be in Georgia early June, that's for sure. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this sounds great.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the first year for Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the first year that we've done this in person,

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<v Speaker 4>competition in quite some time, many many years ago we did.

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<v Speaker 4>We get away from it, but we're holding we're bringing

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<v Speaker 4>it back again. We're bringing back the in person round.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell us we'll be.

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<v Speaker 5>Able to do that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about your program. You the Council for Economic

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<v Speaker 2>Education in Yeah, and so we have left here. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us what that does and how people can get in

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<v Speaker 2>contact with you or if they're interested in participating in

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<v Speaker 2>this next year, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're a nonprofit organization, been around seventy five years

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<v Speaker 4>and our focus is helping young people acquire the financial

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<v Speaker 4>and economic knowledge to be able to manage their lives,

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<v Speaker 4>the lives of their families, their communities as well and

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<v Speaker 4>frankly the entire country. So we work with primarily, as

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<v Speaker 4>I said, K twelve teachers as well as students, providing

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<v Speaker 4>them really awesome resources, helping do professional development development for teachers.

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<v Speaker 4>We do this competition. We have another competition similar in economics.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a program specifically focused on helping helping girls

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<v Speaker 4>see themselves in the financial world, so really focused on

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<v Speaker 4>that economic and financial education at the K twelve level.

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<v Speaker 4>We are at Council for econ ed dot Org. Council

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<v Speaker 4>f o r econ ed dot org is our website.

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<v Speaker 4>Love to have people check us out. I think we

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<v Speaker 4>do great work and we're helping to build the next

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<v Speaker 4>generation of savvy of savvy investors, savvy economists as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you it's certainly is subject is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the minds of everybody for the next

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>If not a few months.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll be talking about this with a business school Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be talking about the tariffs with the business school

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<v Speaker 2>professor tonight. We talked last night with a Globe columnist

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<v Speaker 2>last last evening, which was again the topic of conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>Larry Edelman from the Boston Globe. And tell you it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a big subject and people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be much more interested in this in the next

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<v Speaker 2>year to year and a half, I would.

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<v Speaker 4>Think, absolutely, And having this financial knowledge will help people

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<v Speaker 4>to navigate their financial lives as things get stronger and

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Christopher called Tobiano, thank you very much. We'll talk again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sounds like a great program.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Roll we get back to talk about an international dispute. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really not a dispute, but it is International. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a library in Vermont and Canada. It actually the library

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<v Speaker 2>straddles both countries. The border between the United States and

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<v Speaker 2>Canada in part of Vermont goes right through the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the library.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fascinating story.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll tell you all about it coming up right after

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<v Speaker 2>this break. My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>a border dispute because people have lived up there with

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<v Speaker 2>this set of circumstances as a great interesting story behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio This is.

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<v Speaker 2>A story that I read about two or three weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has fascinated me. And I'm delighted to be

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<v Speaker 2>joined by Matthew parfin And, a local historian and former

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<v Speaker 2>president of the Haskell Free Library Ian Opera House. The

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<v Speaker 2>story involves a building that actually straddles the line that

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<v Speaker 2>separates Vermont from Quebec, or separates the United States from Canada. Matthew,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, How are you nice to be here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you very much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a really interesting story. This it's called it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's a fairly tiny library. But the building

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<v Speaker 2>There were donations made by a family. This it's a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful looking building. Tell us about the building described. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>to describe it so people can understand it is a

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Sure.

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<v Speaker 6>It is a large brick and granite building built right

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<v Speaker 6>on the border between Vermont and the province of Quebec,

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<v Speaker 6>which is in Canada. And picture yourself living in a

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there are actually.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a library. I think that there're a library and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that there are actually some private homes,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe up in northern Maine or somewhere in Michigan or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was done intentionally. In other words, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not sort of an occurrence where they changed the geographic boundaries.

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<v Speaker 2>This free library and opera house straddles these two towns

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<v Speaker 2>Stanstead Quebec or Quebec Wui as they would prefer us

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<v Speaker 2>to say, and Derby Line, Vermont. Now they are not

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<v Speaker 2>big communities. I don't have the population numbers at my hand,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think the story that I read says that

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<v Speaker 2>Derby Line Vermont six hundred and sixty people, and Stanstead Quebec,

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<v Speaker 2>a thriving metropolis, the twenty eight hundred people.

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<v Speaker 3>So all in all, we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty six or so what are thirty four hundred people?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a beautiful looking library inside. And it came

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<v Speaker 2>to be built through the generosity of a family. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was built to straddle the border.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>It was built intentionally, and it was built before they

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<v Speaker 6>changed the law which forbid anything within ten feet of

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<v Speaker 6>the actual border on either side. So they got in

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<v Speaker 6>about six years before that law was passed. I think

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<v Speaker 6>it was around nineteen ten. My little old lady, her

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<v Speaker 6>name was Martha Haskell. She lived across the street. It

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<v Speaker 6>was a vacant lot. She loved to entertain in her

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<v Speaker 6>big mansion, and she liked culture and she liked books.

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<v Speaker 6>She loved performances and concerts. She was born in Bada,

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<v Speaker 6>but she lived in Derby Line and her vision was

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<v Speaker 6>to have this beautiful cultural institution serve Americans and Canadians.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's been doing that ever since. It's one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and twenty some odd years. Yeah, of course it's still

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>My understanding is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian citizens would come in through one side of the

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<v Speaker 2>library and the American US citizens would come in through

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<v Speaker 2>the other. But once you're inside the library and the

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<v Speaker 2>opera house, I guess everybody's sort of mingled and no

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<v Speaker 2>problems at all. And I know that it has become

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a point of, if nothing else, curiosity in

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<v Speaker 2>view of some of the stuff that's been in the

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't necessarily want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go into any of that in any depth, but I

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<v Speaker 2>assume for over the hundred years, one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>or so years, a lot of friendships have been made

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<v Speaker 2>and there's never been a problem as far as I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell, and I'm sure you know better than I.

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<v Speaker 3>These are people who live and who share.

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<v Speaker 2>They live in two countries, they live in two towns

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<v Speaker 2>in one in the province, one in a state, but

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<v Speaker 2>they share a library and everything. There's no problems once

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<v Speaker 2>you're inside the library, as far as as I can tell, right, there.

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<v Speaker 6>Are never problems in the library or the opera house,

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<v Speaker 6>just a small correction. Door is actually on the Vermont side.

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<v Speaker 6>Canadians and Americans have always been free to use the

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<v Speaker 6>same door, and that until recently, that's where the problem

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<v Speaker 6>has started. That's a new development. So the Canadians are

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<v Speaker 6>going to be building a beautiful door on the Canadian side,

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<v Speaker 6>so which is a bit of a shame. But the

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<v Speaker 6>library will continue once the patrons are in the library

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<v Speaker 6>or in the opera house, whatever they're doing, it's completely open.

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<v Speaker 6>It's friendly. People from both countries are free to mingle

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<v Speaker 6>and exchange and use the facilities. That's a very friendly,

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<v Speaker 6>open place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so maybe I misunderstood. I thought that there was

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a door on each side. So there was

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<v Speaker 2>only a front door, one door on the on the

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<v Speaker 2>US side, and that's the problem right now, there has

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<v Speaker 2>to be another door has to be built on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the on the Canadian side.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 6>Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm, it's interesting. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So Canadians worried that they would be stopped from I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>walking around the building to go in the front door,

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<v Speaker 2>which is on the American side. Is that a real

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<v Speaker 2>concern at this point? I would hope it isn't.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you're getting off the top, you would lot me

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<v Speaker 6>to talk about that. Yes, the Canadians have been told

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<v Speaker 6>that their time is coming to an end where they

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<v Speaker 6>can pass by the Vermont side.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 6>They've been raising funds on a GoFundMe campaign and within

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<v Speaker 6>two weeks they've raised one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's just the start. So there's an incredible outpouring

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<v Speaker 6>from all the states and Canada and across the world.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, donations have been coming in, people have been

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<v Speaker 6>visiting in person, leaving check it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do you want to let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to put you any sort of an

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<v Speaker 2>international dispute here, Matthew, But do you want to mention

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<v Speaker 2>the gofund to be paid so people could could find it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or my producer said that you didn't want to talk politics,

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<v Speaker 2>so which I have kept, which I have dutifully avoided here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have stumbled into this.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not realize that that this.

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<v Speaker 6>Element had supporting supporting the arts and culture and a

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<v Speaker 6>library or not talking politics. And I welcome anyone to

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<v Speaker 6>support the gofunding campaign. It's Haskell Free Library. The place

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<v Speaker 6>has a great history. It's a fantastic place. It's completely

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<v Speaker 6>open to both communities. It always have been century in

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<v Speaker 6>a quarter, still going strong. The trustees that run it

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<v Speaker 6>worked very hard. They come from both the US and

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<v Speaker 6>Canadian side. Uh and and they're going to keep They're

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<v Speaker 6>going to keep working to maintain that spirit which has

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, they love to see people and.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, well yeah it just as an outsider. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an outsider. I've been to Vermont, I ben of Quebec.

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<v Speaker 2>The next time I'm up there, I'm going to visit

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<v Speaker 2>the library, if not the opera house as well. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>there's not once they're inside the building. No, one's there

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<v Speaker 2>saying to the Canadians, you can't cross here, or to

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<v Speaker 2>the Americans, you can't cross there. It just seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me silly, uh, that there's no way in which they

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<v Speaker 2>can make an easier accommodation so that everyone can continue

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<v Speaker 2>with with a lot of ease, and that they should never, ever,

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<v Speaker 2>ever prevent Canadians from just walking into the US. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a spot in western uh, the US called four Corners,

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<v Speaker 2>and I forget the states that are involved. I think Colorado, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico, and maybe Utah where there's a spot where

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<v Speaker 2>you can literally stand in four states simultaneously. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm losing I'm losing our connection here with you, Matthew.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've you've told the story. Well, you're you're bouncing

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<v Speaker 2>on us a little bit. Are you on a headset

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<v Speaker 2>or something? Matthew, you're gonna sell Okay, well, cell service.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we got it in. That's the most we got

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<v Speaker 2>the story out. And I thank you, Matthew local historian,

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<v Speaker 2>for for joining us tonight. Have a lovely evening. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you have a great night. All right, when we get

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<v Speaker 2>back right after the news, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a story that I am I haven't had a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to read only because I can't get access to the story,

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<v Speaker 2>but Marita has just sent me a copy which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to speed read about how a song became the

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<v Speaker 2>official poem of the state of Massachusetts. Colin Young will

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<v Speaker 2>join us right after the break here on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Delighted to welcome Colin Young. Colin is a state House

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<v Speaker 2>news reporter with the State House News Service. Hey Colin,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi?

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<v Speaker 7>Dan, I'm doing very well. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was having trouble getting in to read your story

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<v Speaker 2>a little doing a little pre show prep here, and

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<v Speaker 2>Marita had to send me a cut and paste version.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what's going on, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>tough to get into. We're gonna talk about I apologize,

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<v Speaker 2>not a problem at all. I'll check it out tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I haven't lost my subscription. Somehow, how a

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<v Speaker 2>song became the state's official poem. This is kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even realize we had an official poem here

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<v Speaker 2>in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Dan, That's actually exactly what led me to

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<v Speaker 7>write this piece was seeing that April is National Poetry Month,

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<v Speaker 7>and just seeing that headline made me think, huh, do

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<v Speaker 7>we have an official poem in Massachusetts? And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 7>we do, and we've had it on the books. Gee's

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<v Speaker 7>going on almost fifty years now, since nineteen eighty one.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a poem called Blue Hills of Massachusetts. And I

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<v Speaker 7>actually have a little bit of trouble finding a copy

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<v Speaker 7>of it to be able to republish it in the

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<v Speaker 7>State House News Service this week, because it's not a poem.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, there are plenty of poets who have been

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<v Speaker 7>famous poets who have been associated with Massachusetts throughout the years,

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<v Speaker 7>but the official state poem is not by Emily Dickinson

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<v Speaker 7>or any of the others. It's by a woman named

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<v Speaker 7>Catherine Mullen, who was a ninety four year old retired

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<v Speaker 7>school teacher from Barry.

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<v Speaker 2>She's currently she's still alive.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, she was ninety four years old in nineteen

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<v Speaker 7>eighty one when the legislature chose to make her poem

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<v Speaker 7>the official poem of Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so she was born in eighteen eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>I just did some quick that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in eighty one, I remember ed King was the governor,

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<v Speaker 2>and somehow, some way, I guess she had written a

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<v Speaker 2>poem that her students found out about or something, and

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<v Speaker 2>they invited her to the school and it became a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a news story where they read the poem

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<v Speaker 2>to Is that the way the.

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<v Speaker 7>Story went, Yeah, it was. It was a poem that

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<v Speaker 7>she had written while she was a teacher, and she

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<v Speaker 7>wrote it to help teach her students about the history

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<v Speaker 7>of Massachusetts and the seal and the flag and the

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<v Speaker 7>motto of the state. And when she returned to the

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<v Speaker 7>school in nineteen eighty after having retired, she returned just

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<v Speaker 7>to visit the school, and some of the children there

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<v Speaker 7>sang these verses back to her all these years later,

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<v Speaker 7>and it was a newspaper article about that, about the

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<v Speaker 7>students singing this poem to the former teacher that caught

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<v Speaker 7>the attention of state lawmakers in the area, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>what got this down the road to its sort of

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<v Speaker 7>official status.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm doing some math in my head, calling and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this was a new story, but

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<v Speaker 2>if she was born in eighteen eighty seven, she probably

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<v Speaker 2>turned sixty five around nineteen fifty two, and this poem,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was written while she was a teacher, would

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<v Speaker 2>have either had to have been written probably sometime in

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<v Speaker 2>the forties or maybe in the final years of her

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<v Speaker 2>time as a teacher, which would have been just after

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<v Speaker 2>or during World War Two. So it probably is a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty patriotic poem. And she retires, and thirty years later

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<v Speaker 2>or so, she's invited to come back to the school,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, this becomes the official poem

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<v Speaker 2>of the state. It was a song, but it's become

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<v Speaker 2>a poem.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, it's still our poe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still our poem, right, I mean, our state.

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<v Speaker 7>Poem exact already had an official state song.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>The author said, well, let's call it a poem.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So again, give me the name, the title of

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<v Speaker 2>the poem.

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<v Speaker 7>It's called Blue Hills of Massachusetts, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in the shadow of Big Blue, which

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<v Speaker 2>is as you know, in Milton. So now I feel

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<v Speaker 2>really associated with the story.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanza that you'd like to repeat for us, so that

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<v Speaker 2>you might have in front of you. I couldn't find

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<v Speaker 2>the poem. I'm sorry, Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I was fascinated by that. Dan I had a hard

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<v Speaker 7>time finding it myself. I thankfully founded through the State

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<v Speaker 7>Library they had a copy of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you could repeat for you could read to us,

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<v Speaker 2>or no, if you don't, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 7>Sure, I'll give you the last two, the final two

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<v Speaker 7>verses of the poem, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>To clear your throat, Ladies and gentlemen, Colin Young, with

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<v Speaker 2>the official poem of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 7>Colin Massachusetts, Massachusetts, what a splendid history like our great

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<v Speaker 7>and glorious nation in its strength for liberty, Massachusetts, Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 7>keep the faith, true pride in stills. May our trust

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<v Speaker 7>in you be steadfast as the everlasting hills.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a round of applause from our digital studio audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob get this, wake up the studio audience, please, and

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<v Speaker 2>let's give call in a little round of a class.

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<v Speaker 2>That is an excellent rendition. Calling an excellent rendition. My

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<v Speaker 2>understanding is that we are in search. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a we're giving people a little extra

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<v Speaker 2>hair calling. You know, there's a search for Massachusetts needs

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<v Speaker 2>a poet laureate. I didn't realize, right, we don't have one,

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<v Speaker 2>but that poem you could tell was written in the

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<v Speaker 2>era that we identified in the in the late salties

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<v Speaker 2>or right after World War Two.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to be a little careful too, about which

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<v Speaker 7>verses I chose to read, because you know, as such,

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<v Speaker 7>there are some phrases in there that just simply aren't

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<v Speaker 7>phrases we use today. So probably not used with any

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<v Speaker 7>ill intent. They're just outdated terms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'll bet you they probably deal with the

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<v Speaker 2>act with the people who were uh residents or citizens

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<v Speaker 2>of the Axis.

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<v Speaker 3>Powers during World War Two. If I.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin, I'll take it a while, guest jar, Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just take away and you don't even have to confirm that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just let that one go.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell us about the poet, Lawie, is this is

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<v Speaker 2>this as if this is a position that is open?

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<v Speaker 2>How much is the Is the position a funded position

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<v Speaker 2>or is it an honorific.

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<v Speaker 7>Ah, they are trying to make it a funded position. Uh,

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<v Speaker 7>it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>To me, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And going back to look back at the history of

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<v Speaker 7>the state poem.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, when the.

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<v Speaker 7>Author said, well, let's call this song a poem, she said,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know of any state that has a state poem.

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<v Speaker 7>So maybe Massachusetts was the first to adopt a state poem.

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<v Speaker 7>But it turns out we're now one of the last

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<v Speaker 7>to have a poet law warrit there are only Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 7>is one of three states to be without. Believe it

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<v Speaker 7>or not, I'm not sure how we've we've managed this

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<v Speaker 7>long without a poet Laureate, but we have well.

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<v Speaker 2>Knowing our legislature and the need for relatives and family

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<v Speaker 2>members and friends of state reps to be to find

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<v Speaker 2>gainful employment in the public. Say, my god, this stuns

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<v Speaker 2>me more than anything. Callin, I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 7>And there is a stipend involved the person chosen could get.

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<v Speaker 7>It's in the works. It's not set in stone, but

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<v Speaker 7>the poet laureate could get a fifteen thousand dollars stipend

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<v Speaker 7>for their work.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's reasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping that it might be a six figure

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<v Speaker 2>number and that you and I could apply for it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could. We could just sort of walk around

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<v Speaker 2>the State House an hour or so every day with

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<v Speaker 2>a pen and a scroll in hand and thinking great

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and write any doubt phrases.

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<v Speaker 3>That you might do.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you do me one final favorite? If Rob gave

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<v Speaker 2>you my uh my email at w b Z, would

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<v Speaker 2>you send me could you send me a copy of

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<v Speaker 2>that poem because I'm I'm really interesting, I'm interested. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Carlin. We got to have you back on.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed this. This was this was a fun segment. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and you made it a little bit of fun. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. We will we will, we will talk soon

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, let's uh, let's keep in touch.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been you've been with us before, right, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Believe I have, I have. I always enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, come on, come on back more often because

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<v Speaker 2>I love talking to folks. I used I was a

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<v Speaker 2>reporter a long time ago, and so I I have

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<v Speaker 2>I have. I feel I always enjoy talking to reporters.

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<v Speaker 2>And you handled a touchy situation with greater plom I want.

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<v Speaker 5>You to know that I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 7>I had some fun with it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk soon, all right, say there, Rob will give

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<v Speaker 2>you my email address and I'll have it'll be fun

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<v Speaker 2>to read that. Thanks so much when we get back,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to This is not one you can participate,

547
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<v Speaker 2>and although maybe we could do it some Friday night,

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<v Speaker 2>we will disclose to you the top pet fee peeve

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<v Speaker 2>or the top pet peeves among neighbors according to a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five survey from Home Gnome. And that's g

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<v Speaker 2>n o emmy, and we're not talking about nom Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>Back on night Side with Jeff Herman, the editor in

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<v Speaker 2>chief of Home Gnome.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this, if you're on night Side with Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Ray on w Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back, everybody. We are going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>now about a survey of the top pe pet peeves

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<v Speaker 2>amongst neighbors.

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<v Speaker 3>In his poem The Mending.

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<v Speaker 2>Wall, Robert Frost wrote, good fences make good neighbors. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>we need more fences with us as Jeff Herman, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the editor in chief of Home Gnome.

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<v Speaker 3>Have I pronounced Gnome g n O m E correctly?

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<v Speaker 5>I hope yes, that is correct.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not. It is Gnome.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted up. All right, So what what prompted

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<v Speaker 2>you to conduct such a survey?

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<v Speaker 5>Because so many of these things involve home services that

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<v Speaker 5>are needed to kind of fix things. If you have

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<v Speaker 5>a broken fence, you need somebody to stay it painted

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<v Speaker 5>or mend it. And if you have broken windows in

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<v Speaker 5>you know, your neighbor's house, or you have disputes over

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<v Speaker 5>the landscaping, you need help and so one thing you

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<v Speaker 5>need to do is turn to some people who can

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<v Speaker 5>help make that happen. And that's kind of what the

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<v Speaker 5>site's all about. But more than anything else, we want

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<v Speaker 5>to find out what people are upset about with their neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So now, first of all, let me give you

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<v Speaker 2>a chance. What what is the service of the website, homenome?

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason I want to get that out of

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<v Speaker 2>the way is I want people to understand sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like you're the foundation of this whole, this whole interview.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you need something done at your home, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a website people can go to and check it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, so you know, if it's painting, if it's plumbing,

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<v Speaker 5>if it's hvac, whatever it is, you know you can

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<v Speaker 5>find the people near you who can take that job

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<v Speaker 5>and do well for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So therefore your your you supply. When I need

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<v Speaker 2>something done in my hometown, you'll give me a list

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<v Speaker 2>of potential people who can do the job. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>a free serve. I assume us is a free service.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely absolutely, and so it's home now.

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<v Speaker 7>But your radio.

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<v Speaker 5>Commercials before this session were fantastic. They were funny, they

596
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<v Speaker 5>were enlightening, and there are home services companies right where

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<v Speaker 5>you're listeners are, So I will puss with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, thank you very much. If you need commercials,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the this is the show to put the

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<v Speaker 2>commercials on. So let's let's talk about you guys. So

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<v Speaker 2>one in ten neighbors clash over home upkeep. So that

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<v Speaker 2>means if you're next door neighbor is a slob uh

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<v Speaker 2>or has fifteen junk cars in his yard and is

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<v Speaker 2>and is out there, you know, with a chainsaw on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday morning at six point thirty when you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>catch some sleep. These are some of the some of

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<v Speaker 2>the problems. Give us the top pet peeves that you

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<v Speaker 2>have found in the survey the home Gnome conducted.

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<v Speaker 5>The top five pet peeves are garbage twenty seven point

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<v Speaker 5>four percent of the respondents, So that that's their number

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<v Speaker 5>one tet peeve, landscaping, lawn career, yards that just aren't

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<v Speaker 5>kept up. That's the second most common pet peeve.

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<v Speaker 3>I missed it, hold on wastecond's the first one. What's

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<v Speaker 3>the first one?

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<v Speaker 5>There's garbage. So if there's you know, with garbage, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, if it's if it stinks, you know, or

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<v Speaker 5>it's just piling up. That's a problem for you if

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<v Speaker 5>you're a living next person like this, So that's number one.

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<v Speaker 5>Number two. Landscape, your laun care. If the yard is

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<v Speaker 5>a mess, well that's going to be a problem because

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<v Speaker 5>that's not only unsightly, but it also can lower your

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<v Speaker 5>property values. So you know, keep the neighbor's yard clean,

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<v Speaker 5>keep your yard clean. Home maintenance. If the windows look

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<v Speaker 5>like they're falling apart, they're broken, you know, or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the the gutters seem to be falling off the sides

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<v Speaker 5>of the house, that's another problem. So if things aren't

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<v Speaker 5>being addressed again, it makes you look bad because your

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<v Speaker 5>neighbor looks like this, it's going to be reflecting on

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<v Speaker 5>your home property. To noise. If you have a really

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<v Speaker 5>noisy neighbor like you just said, you know, he's operating

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<v Speaker 5>the chainsaw at seven o'clock in the morning. That cause

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<v Speaker 5>those issues. And pets they might not bite you, but

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<v Speaker 5>they might be doing things in your yard that you

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<v Speaker 5>don't want them to do, whether it's digging up the

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<v Speaker 5>flower bed or whether it's you know, leaving a mess

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<v Speaker 5>behind whatever it is. Pets can be a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, Yeah, The other thing too, which I think we

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<v Speaker 2>should realize, is that you don't have to necessarily live

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<v Speaker 2>in a bad area of town. There was a story

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago United States Senator rih and

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<v Speaker 2>Paul from Kentucky got into some sort of a skirmish

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<v Speaker 2>with his next door neighbor which ended up, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>in a fistfight of some sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, do you remember that story.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was two neighbors and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if politics are involved or whatever, but at one point

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<v Speaker 2>I think the guy sucker punched Brian Paul and it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was a big story. It's a United States

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<v Speaker 2>Senator that you know, you'd think most people would like

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<v Speaker 2>to be friends with, right as opposed to up in

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<v Speaker 2>a brawl. So, yeah, this is a problem, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think you have the key on it, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>that you're trying to keep your house as best you can.

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<v Speaker 2>No one expects the house next door and the house

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<v Speaker 2>across the street to be, you know, from the cover

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, home beautiful or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're right, if all of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sudden the shutters are falling off or the fences is

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<v Speaker 2>falling onto your property, generally, if that happens and you

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<v Speaker 2>try to talk to the neighbor. My suspicion is the

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<v Speaker 2>neighbor probably if they allow that to happen and allow

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<v Speaker 2>it to continue, they're probably not going to be really

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<v Speaker 2>open to some of your entreaties of hey, can you

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<v Speaker 2>fix the fence.

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<v Speaker 3>I would suspect it.

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<v Speaker 2>Very rarely would someone in that situation say, oh, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize it was over. Oh excuse me, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get that done tomorrow. I suspect it might be you

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<v Speaker 2>fix your thing and I'll fix my fence later and

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<v Speaker 2>bridge exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, neighbors is just tough. Sometimes they're good friends

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<v Speaker 5>and sometimes they're just difficult to get along with. I

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<v Speaker 5>lived in Saint Louis. The neighbor next door my other

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<v Speaker 5>half didn't get along with that neighbor at all, and

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<v Speaker 5>it went from you know, they were almost going to

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<v Speaker 5>start with a fist fight there. It was one of

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<v Speaker 5>the worst days because I'm trying to break up the

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<v Speaker 5>fist fight, and then it turned into the best day

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<v Speaker 5>because we went and adopted our puppy. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>really really tough day turns out to be a really

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<v Speaker 5>fantastic day with what type of what.

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<v Speaker 2>Type of puppy, What type of puppy did you adopt?

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<v Speaker 5>Australian cattle dog smart, smart dog, one ear up, one

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<v Speaker 5>ear down, so it was it was a little puppy,

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<v Speaker 5>one ear up, one down.

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter adopted a puppy from Michelter, who is my

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<v Speaker 2>best friend right now. Unfortunately I live in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't see him as often as I want.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's Mustard the corgy. Oh, he's a great dog.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a great dog. And I was in the phone

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<v Speaker 2>of my daughter one night. She had walked out the

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<v Speaker 2>back of her apartment building in San Francisco, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was some guy across the street who was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hanging around. And as I'm talking to her, all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, Mustard, who is the quietest dog in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>starts to bark and growl at this guy. And ever

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<v Speaker 2>since then i've he's he's my daughter's protector. So we

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<v Speaker 2>have bonded you and I, Jeff, over our love for dogs. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much. This was an interesting piece home

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<v Speaker 2>gnome and that's all one word. H O M E

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<v Speaker 2>G O M E dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>Dot org, dot com dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, Thanks very much. We'll have you back. I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it. You've got a great sense of humor and

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we come back when to be talking with

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Craft Kraft, a the the the only mayoral candidate

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<v Speaker 2>here in Boston who is taking on the incumbent Michelle Woo.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier this week, Boston developer Tom O'Bryan decided, indeed not

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<v Speaker 2>to run. So it is now Josh Kraft and Michelle Wou,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to talk about the White Stadium legal

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<v Speaker 2>developments in the last day or so. Coming back on

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside right after the nine o'clock news