Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Gult
Speaker 1: of Conspiracy in. My name is Jonathan Jacob and today
Speaker 1: we have a real treat for you. Sean Hibbler Hibler
Speaker 1: Productions dot Com come out with the newest documentary Level.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Sean.
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, guys.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you taking the time to have me on
Speaker 3: to talk to your wonderful audience today.
Speaker 1: Dude, we're stoked to have you. We just got done
Speaker 1: watching the Level is it's a documentary? You call it
Speaker 1: a documentary, right?
Speaker 2: I got three of.
Speaker 3: Them now, Level, the next Level, and then the new
Speaker 3: one is Level.
Speaker 1: With me, that's right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we watched just
Speaker 1: the first one so far.
Speaker 3: You just watched Oh I didn't know that. I thought
Speaker 3: you meant you just watched the new one. You just
Speaker 3: watched Level, the first one from three years ago.
Speaker 1: Was it pertaining to so the one we watched had.
Speaker 2: Turned off a challenger? Yeah, that's the brand new one.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what we watch it, hey.
Speaker 2: Which is perfect.
Speaker 3: I actually would recommend watching three two than one. So
Speaker 3: I'm the universe did it that way. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but it's reversed.
Speaker 2: Let's ask Star Wars why would you, Why would you
Speaker 2: as the creator, why would you actually recommend that? Is
Speaker 2: it that your.
Speaker 3: It's just weird now that the third is done. When
Speaker 3: I look at all three and the way they were
Speaker 3: set up to hit the brain to wake people up,
Speaker 3: I would go three two one. Three has more raw
Speaker 3: evidence and exclusive stuff stuff. I mean we we got
Speaker 3: you know, like we got.
Speaker 2: Up in people's faces.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Two. Yes.
Speaker 3: The next level is more family friendly, heartfelt. We got
Speaker 3: an old lady in there talking about you know, they
Speaker 3: didn't even teach the globe when she was in school,
Speaker 3: public school. It was all new, so we got it's
Speaker 3: more of aed it's more educational in my sense, it's
Speaker 3: and it's more a lot of older mapped with more
Speaker 3: continents on it, and like a lot of more descriptions
Speaker 3: on stuff and the books of the past that people
Speaker 3: finding more lamp past Antarctica and meeting different civilizations. So
Speaker 3: I feel like the second one is more educational in
Speaker 3: the sense of that. So you want the first because
Speaker 3: you want more evidence and shock to go what the
Speaker 3: heck is going on?
Speaker 2: Then you watch the second and you get kind of
Speaker 2: you get kind.
Speaker 3: Of like hugged in the process. It's okay, it's going
Speaker 3: to be. The second's like, it's gonna be okay, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be okay. And then the first one is like,
Speaker 3: if it's not, if you have not accepted where we
Speaker 3: live yet, you're about to get kicked in the face,
Speaker 3: and you.
Speaker 2: Want to leave that last because you don't want to leave.
Speaker 3: Someone with a kick in the face, only if they
Speaker 3: deserve it. And that's by the end of the third
Speaker 3: you will get kicked in the face. So but by
Speaker 3: then you should have already been awakened, so I won't
Speaker 3: offend you.
Speaker 1: All right, dude, Okay, So just to level with you,
Speaker 1: so to say, I am a flat earther all the way,
Speaker 1: very proud, very loud about it, Jacob, not so much.
Speaker 2: I would be classified as a globetard. However, with that,
Speaker 2: I will say that the flat earth community has brought
Speaker 2: up some incredible points that I, as a globe model person,
Speaker 2: cannot refute. I'm being honest with y'all. Flat earthers be
Speaker 2: fucking with some shit, all right, Like, Okay, some things
Speaker 2: I don't agree with. But at the same time, why
Speaker 2: is their for you tonight? Brother? Don't know worries.
Speaker 1: Let's go maybe yes, maybe no.
Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong. And I've watched the documentary,
Speaker 2: so again, some things I absolutely agree with. Some of
Speaker 2: the things. I was like, that's not exactly correct. He's
Speaker 2: kind of misusing the term, and I mean, I want
Speaker 2: to hear. I want now those are the points I
Speaker 2: can't wait to hear. Well, Okay, for instance, uh, I
Speaker 2: forget which one it was. Which of the guess you
Speaker 2: had on the program? Basically was talking about electricity and
Speaker 2: talking about how gravity is an electrics right, and he's
Speaker 2: he brought up the word impedance a lot. And I
Speaker 2: don't know the gentleman. I'm not trying to say he's wrong.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know shit, Like I'm not doing that. What
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, in the context that he was using it,
Speaker 2: it made no sense. Impedance is the overall resistance of
Speaker 2: a circuit. So for you to say that you're watching
Speaker 2: its impedance, that's that's like saying you're watching its uh,
Speaker 2: you're watching its wind. That that's not something you could watch.
Speaker 2: That's something that only he was watching impedance. Where was
Speaker 2: that he?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: When it hit the firmament? What was it that hit
Speaker 2: the firma and he was talking about how you're watching
Speaker 2: the electrostatic shock the explosion off of it, and it's
Speaker 2: kind of equalizing, and it's hitten with impedance. It's levelizing
Speaker 2: with electro magnetism. Again, just watched it, so I'm trying
Speaker 2: to quote it as best as I can. But we
Speaker 2: literally finished watching that about twenty minutes ago, and that
Speaker 2: was one snippet of it.
Speaker 1: So again, I get it.
Speaker 3: You could stumble upon what he said or what he meant,
Speaker 3: but what we showed you should be completely What we
Speaker 3: showed you should make you question gravity as a whole.
Speaker 3: Electrostatics we can show you here on Earth. We can
Speaker 3: go through the scientific method of observing, repeating, measuring, and
Speaker 3: doing it all over, having seven of your peers do
Speaker 3: the same test to prove that there is no force
Speaker 3: that's making your pencil drop, because I can bring your
Speaker 3: pencil back up. Am I defining gravity or am I
Speaker 3: define electrostatics electrostatics? No, it's not, because you're you're trying
Speaker 3: to discuss that there's a force that by the way,
Speaker 3: ninety what ninety three ninety five percent of it is
Speaker 3: made up dark matter that they've never they've never proven.
Speaker 3: So the rest of it is a force that makes
Speaker 3: everything go down. Well, they've never manipulated space time here
Speaker 3: on Earth. They've never done anything to prove.
Speaker 2: Any of it.
Speaker 3: All they ever do is say, look, drop the microphone.
Speaker 3: Gravity cause that. Well, yeah, that's a weak ass force
Speaker 3: that's never been proven. Electrostatics is proven. We've proved it
Speaker 3: in the film. People have proven it for decades now
Speaker 3: that they can control what goes up and down based on.
Speaker 2: The electrostatic force.
Speaker 3: So if mainstream is saying that electrostatics is one to
Speaker 3: the thirty eighth power stronger than gravity even claims to be,
Speaker 3: then how can anyone still say that's gravity doing it.
Speaker 3: It's a weaker four one to the thirty eighth power.
Speaker 3: That's trillions times trillions times stronger. So it's like you
Speaker 3: got this force that everything's electric and everything is divided
Speaker 3: by the Earth itself is the ground, right, That's why
Speaker 3: when you go outside, when your bare feet, you're grounding.
Speaker 2: The ground is Earth.
Speaker 3: It's a neutral, there's no there's no Everyone's like, well,
Speaker 3: why don't we just fly up in space? Well, that's
Speaker 3: the conditioning that number one, there's space number two that
Speaker 3: you should fly up somehow, and again it goes against creationism.
Speaker 2: Well I am a creation creator.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I'm pretty sure the creator would design it
Speaker 3: so there is no confusion on why we're walking on
Speaker 3: our feet.
Speaker 2: Well agree. My point is, though, I'm glad that you
Speaker 2: said the earth is a neutral Okay. I've heard multiple
Speaker 2: people at the flat earth community say that the earth
Speaker 2: is a negative. The air ionically is a positive, and
Speaker 2: that's why we are on the ground, is because we
Speaker 2: are at the neutral point. It's like, no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: the earth is a dead ground. That's why intellect, because
Speaker 2: I'm an electrician, when we do this, we had to
Speaker 2: find that to earth ground and everybody's like, well, if
Speaker 2: you jump up, that's because the positive ions are now
Speaker 2: around you. And that's when I'm like, that's okay. While
Speaker 2: that's technically correct, you're talking about such a minuscule amount,
Speaker 2: that's not holding anything down or up. But to your point,
Speaker 2: as far as changing how something goes up or down,
Speaker 2: you put power to it. That's the same thing as
Speaker 2: saying that something weighs less when you apply heat to it.
Speaker 2: That's how matter works. Electricity is the same way. When
Speaker 2: you pump something through electricity you are putting ions, which
Speaker 2: is more and or less mass on it. Although it's
Speaker 2: at a molecular scale, you could make a balloon with
Speaker 2: a small weight definitely go up or down, adding more
Speaker 2: or less power to it's that makes perfect sense to
Speaker 2: me as well.
Speaker 3: That doesn't prove or that with any item, as long
Speaker 3: as the generator is strong enough exactly.
Speaker 2: So, yes, you would be defying gravity at that time.
Speaker 3: No, you're defying electrostatics. You're telling the electrostatic nature and
Speaker 3: its natural state that's supposed to be here on the ground.
Speaker 3: You're telling it to disperse, You're telling it to do
Speaker 3: the other thing. And that's how it's being controlled in
Speaker 3: nature too. Naturally, everything sorted out by density, boyancy, and electrostatics.
Speaker 3: So for your audience, you know, obviously they understand, I
Speaker 3: hope they understand density and boyancy. You bring a golf
Speaker 3: ball to the ocean and a ping pong ball and
Speaker 3: you drop both of them.
Speaker 2: Fuck your gravity with the ping.
Speaker 3: Pong it ain't going down, Okay, you drop them into
Speaker 3: the ocean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna float. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Why where's your where's this force that you're talking about? Well,
Speaker 3: my electrostatics theory can prove that there's many reasons defighting
Speaker 3: electrostatics and density and buoyancy. Why that ping pong ball
Speaker 3: is not going down with the golf ball, but gravity
Speaker 3: is like, well, because we decided not to force it
Speaker 3: to go down. Today we could force buildings and skyscrapers
Speaker 3: and tanks and oceans to stick to a ball, but
Speaker 3: will allow helium balloom to rise. Okay, and the excuses, well,
Speaker 3: that's a gas, that's it. No, it's electrostatics period.
Speaker 2: It's wait wait wait, how is that incorrect? How is
Speaker 2: it incorrect to say, like it sticks a building to
Speaker 2: the ground, it keeps the water on earth. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the same weak force keeping that on earth. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that it's people.
Speaker 3: You think you believe because of your your kindergarten teacher,
Speaker 3: and then you never moved out. You just accepted it.
Speaker 3: You believe that there's people upside down underneath you. Right now,
Speaker 3: I don't I know that China is straight, that way
Speaker 3: down is down for every single person on Earth, down
Speaker 3: is down. That that can't be a retarded theory to anyone,
Speaker 3: no sense, No, I mean logically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe it's about perspective. Trusting your senses.
Speaker 3: Though, trusting your senses, you can agree that it's not
Speaker 3: that far fetched that China's this way and down is
Speaker 3: down for them too. If you can't concept that what
Speaker 3: that would look like or feel like, I can't help you.
Speaker 3: But if you can, then you can understand where we're
Speaker 3: coming from, because that's more realistic and provable than thinking
Speaker 3: that they're underneath us right now with some force holding
Speaker 3: them there. That doesn't make any sense because it's never
Speaker 3: been replicated here on Earth to show how that could
Speaker 3: be done. And it's never been proven that someone's hanging
Speaker 3: upside down because NASA's had fucking fifty goddamn years to
Speaker 3: go up there and zooming on something upside down, and
Speaker 3: they never have, they never will.
Speaker 1: They're going to every single picture, every single camera, every
Speaker 1: single satellite. Why would never Why wouldn't you? It would
Speaker 1: prove it, pause, it would prove it.
Speaker 2: On the globe model, we have point A satellite looking
Speaker 2: down taking a picture, Point B on the bottom taking
Speaker 2: a picture. Both of them from their perspective would look
Speaker 2: like they're looking directly down. It doesn't make like.
Speaker 3: All the other You're you're on the wrong axis. For
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, go on the other axis. Okay, of course,
Speaker 3: balls here then please come here. Shoot it from here.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: Zoom men, zoom in on this boat upside down.
Speaker 1: And every single picture, every single video we've ever seen
Speaker 1: of the Earth. Ever noticed how all the clouds are
Speaker 1: always the same, every single one. Dude, it's absolutely like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a photoshop. We know for sure.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing Flat earthers are on their ship
Speaker 2: when they say that every single picture we've ever seen
Speaker 2: from NASA has been photoshopped. That is an actual true statement.
Speaker 2: NASA has confirmed all of that.
Speaker 1: I love how you guys went into uh, you know
Speaker 1: is s and how the is you know, the International
Speaker 1: Space Station? You fed up with you who was it
Speaker 1: that was going up to the one person that was yes,
Speaker 1: going up to the woman that was like and he
Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, what's what the wires? Then
Speaker 1: you know, like all this money that's being funneled in,
Speaker 1: but there's wires being pullish.
Speaker 3: The strategized that we we you know, it was hard
Speaker 3: enough to sneak in professional wireless mike setups and boxes.
Speaker 3: You can't bring any of that through NASA. But seeing
Speaker 3: as how their employees are all probably triple jabbed.
Speaker 2: And retards because they worked there for sure.
Speaker 3: It just they didn't even check my belt, what was
Speaker 3: behind my zipper. They they just have a good day.
Speaker 3: And so when we got in, we're like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: we're in, Like we manifested this. I you know, there
Speaker 3: was a time where I was like, they're going to
Speaker 3: stop us, I know it. And I'm like, no, you
Speaker 3: know what, fuck that. No, They're now I'm walking in
Speaker 3: the motherfuckers. So we walked in the motherfucker. And it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: they got an astronaut signing today.
Speaker 2: We're like what are we doing?
Speaker 3: Like we're scrambling, like all right, mike him up first
Speaker 3: and then you go on line and then we'll figure
Speaker 3: it out. We had no scripts, we had no and
Speaker 3: even Justin was robb the top of his head, He's like,
Speaker 3: I got something.
Speaker 2: I'm like, are going line going?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, I don't even want to know.
Speaker 3: Fucking pulls yes because he's he's that's the type of person.
Speaker 3: He is a city council meetings in Florida. He's been
Speaker 3: helping the vaccination.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, Yeah, where was that the
Speaker 2: interview with the astronaut that would landing of the Kennedy
Speaker 2: Space Center. Okay, see I'm thinking and why they are
Speaker 2: all the head quarters, bro. Yeah, but see that that's
Speaker 2: what's bothering me. Now, this was some little random NASA
Speaker 2: offshoot site somewhere that's some little weather place for NASA.
Speaker 2: I could see them not having a very stringent security
Speaker 2: check because the security guards are looking for what's the
Speaker 2: most immediate threat. They're not expecting a guy with some
Speaker 2: cameras to walk into a NASA thing being a threat
Speaker 2: to the people, right. They're looking for guns and knives
Speaker 2: and poisons and shit like that. So they did their search.
Speaker 2: They didn't see anything that to the security guards at
Speaker 2: this place wouldn't register. It is weird, but the fact
Speaker 2: that it was the NASA headquarters, now that is a
Speaker 2: pretty big eyebrow raiser to me, sir.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you saw her just stumbling for words. She
Speaker 1: didn't know what to say. Probably nobody's ever come up
Speaker 1: to her and talked to about talk to that about her.
Speaker 3: I think the strategy was not to come off as
Speaker 3: conspira theorists. The strategy was to come off as genuinely,
Speaker 3: genuinely interested and it's assuming the facts. We already know
Speaker 3: they're on harnesses. They're caught on harnesses, they're caught with
Speaker 3: CGI glitches, they're caught with green screens.
Speaker 2: We've caught them.
Speaker 3: You can't act like, well, yeah, you know, there's one
Speaker 3: hundred different iss floating up there. You see the harness,
Speaker 3: you see the green screen, but the rest of them
Speaker 3: are real. So you can't do that. It's all bullshit.
Speaker 3: So why are they bullshit? So we had to go
Speaker 3: in and approaching her in the sense of, you know, real,
Speaker 3: how can you ask this question without asking it right?
Speaker 2: Like basically he.
Speaker 3: Told me this justin said he wanted to approach her
Speaker 3: in the sense that wake we all know they're on
Speaker 3: harnesses already, without sounding like a flat earth or something.
Speaker 3: He's just like, hey, you know, you know they're on harnesses.
Speaker 2: It gets caught in there. What causes them?
Speaker 3: What causes them to get stuck in there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, did you wait? I didn't even say that
Speaker 3: there are harnesses.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So she concused herself at first because she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I never heard of that, and then you hear she
Speaker 3: goes from I never heard of that to her last
Speaker 3: excuse was yeah, maybe they put them on because after
Speaker 3: the flip they release them, so they probably to hold
Speaker 3: them in place, right well, to hold them in place
Speaker 3: in place of what I thought they were floating in
Speaker 3: zero G like all their little catchup bottles going across,
Speaker 3: Like what what do you mean, Like, why would they
Speaker 3: hold it in place? We all know that we've seen
Speaker 3: their items on strings before. So it's like the fact
Speaker 3: that she acted like she didn't know what he was
Speaker 3: talking about turned into an excuse of why she basically
Speaker 3: said in the in a nutshell she yeah, yeah, they're
Speaker 3: on harnesses. But it's because to keep them in place.
Speaker 3: It's like you said, you never heard of it before.
Speaker 3: Now you have a reason why they wear them, and
Speaker 3: that you're saying they do wear them because.
Speaker 2: It's after they flip. It holds them in place.
Speaker 3: And no, but that's why during that scene I showed
Speaker 3: the guy flipping and then his shit fell his his
Speaker 3: fucking harness now from his.
Speaker 2: Belt or his belt whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you hear the pink and he's like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, she's kind of telling the truth.
Speaker 2: That's why I showed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when they release, if they released from the harness,
Speaker 3: it's supposed to hold him in, and this guy's flip
Speaker 3: did it hold him in? And he released from harness
Speaker 3: and fell straight down. Where's your gravity, bro?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, what do you mean what he's supposed to
Speaker 2: it's gravity? Gravity? I tell you what the whole SpaceX thing.
Speaker 2: I lost it at this one. First of all, homeboy
Speaker 2: had brought a guitar and bagpipes up there. I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: all right, you understand that every single ounce of weight
Speaker 2: has to be accounted for for that rocket to get
Speaker 2: to where it's supposed to be going. You're telling me
Speaker 2: that he convinced somebody to allow bagpipes one of the arguable.
Speaker 2: First of all, I love bagpipes, but the vast majority
Speaker 2: of people hate the sound of them and think that's
Speaker 2: one of the most annoying instruments on Earth. You're telling
Speaker 2: me he sucked enough dick to convince them to get
Speaker 2: a bagpipe set on one of the smallest enclosed spaces
Speaker 2: that you're stuck on. Period. All right, I'm starting to
Speaker 2: call some bullshit, Homie.
Speaker 3: I should mention I should have put the Super Bowl one,
Speaker 3: because they had the jerseys of the teams for weeks
Speaker 3: and it's like How did you know who was going
Speaker 3: to win? I thought you were up there for like
Speaker 3: seven months. Now, how did you know who was going
Speaker 3: to be in the super Bowl? And how did you
Speaker 3: know who won? How did you get the jersey? How
Speaker 3: did you have the MVP ad?
Speaker 2: But right, there's a million, there's a million of them.
Speaker 1: They got mail these days.
Speaker 2: Dog, don't you know that we could three D print
Speaker 2: everything up there because technology? Then the one where they
Speaker 2: were eating lettuce or was it cabbage or whatever that
Speaker 2: they grew. Let I want this one to to let people.
Speaker 2: Let this one sink into your brain real quick. They
Speaker 2: don't have dirt on SpaceX, or on the International Space
Speaker 2: Station or any of these other ship I keep saying SpaceX.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that they could. They could because it's it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, these these things you're speaking of are here
Speaker 3: on Earth, So technically they could have dirt inside.
Speaker 2: Them, technically, assuming let's just assume that ISS is up
Speaker 2: there doing its thing right and it's really up there
Speaker 2: and they're not lying to us. Keep in mind that
Speaker 2: they didn't. They didn't truck up there a couple of
Speaker 2: loads of dirt for them to farm that. So I
Speaker 2: want you to think where what is the only waste
Speaker 2: that these humans create that they could use for fertilizer
Speaker 2: to plant this thing that they're now eating.
Speaker 1: It's all for It's all for absolute show. A lot
Speaker 1: of people want to be able to see these, you know,
Speaker 1: normal people up in space on the on the International
Speaker 1: Space Station or up in rocket.
Speaker 3: Seventy million dollars a day from taxpayers, So they better
Speaker 3: show them.
Speaker 2: Something, got to got to have them results.
Speaker 1: I would just hope that the I just wish that, like,
Speaker 1: if you're going to fake it, make the editing a
Speaker 1: little bit better, it's too obvious, like you know.
Speaker 3: That would be it's on purpose. Do you guys know
Speaker 3: about the revelation of method right? Yea?
Speaker 1: The truth.
Speaker 3: They have to tell you the truth. Do you think
Speaker 3: and I'm talking specifically to the glober here or your buddy, Sorry,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm bad with names.
Speaker 1: Jacob, his name is Jacob Jacob, you would.
Speaker 3: Think that even if let's pretend that you saw all
Speaker 3: the glitches and glamours I have, I got hard drives filled,
Speaker 3: watched them all, there's no way you would think that
Speaker 3: they're not faking something.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, And that's the thing I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that every single point the flat earthers have brought up
Speaker 2: as bullshit. No, no, I am agreeing with you that
Speaker 2: those are hooks and wires. I'm absolutely agreeing with you that's.
Speaker 3: Bull Here's my question now that you said that, why
Speaker 3: would they allow that to stay in their footage?
Speaker 2: Which thing the fuck ups any of it?
Speaker 3: Because that none of it's live. The post production is
Speaker 3: well edited. You can see any rocket launch.
Speaker 2: Cut cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut cut.
Speaker 3: You could just sing cut, cut, cut the whole show,
Speaker 3: because all they do is cut, cut, cut and give
Speaker 3: you different angles all post production. None of it's live.
Speaker 3: It's all post production. It's all They already saw the
Speaker 3: final product before delivering it to you. Everything they do
Speaker 3: they see the final product first, and then they said, okay,
Speaker 3: upload it to the servers.
Speaker 2: Show the people.
Speaker 1: They every single frame, they.
Speaker 3: Have every opportunity in the world to go, holy shit,
Speaker 3: us thirteen seconds green screen glitch, guys, what the fuck
Speaker 3: you're fired? Cut that out before tomorrow's release. No, and
Speaker 3: it's not even a matter of just let it in,
Speaker 3: just let it stay.
Speaker 2: No, it's put it in.
Speaker 3: Show them well if you if you accept it as real,
Speaker 3: it's the same contract technically as watching CNN and claiming
Speaker 3: it's real. They're telling you something real because they're telling
Speaker 3: you right, just because they're saying something on TV bad
Speaker 3: blah blah, and that's got to be true. It's the
Speaker 3: same comparison because it's up to you, especially since I
Speaker 3: believe it was eighty four and then ninety two, they
Speaker 3: have that one where basically American media and entertainment can
Speaker 3: lie to you and sell it as real. Basically, so
Speaker 3: it's one of those things where they're already protected. Now
Speaker 3: they got two ways of getting away with it. Revelation
Speaker 3: and method, which they already do. We show you all
Speaker 3: the revelation of method errors and there's tons more we've
Speaker 3: never shown. And then two is legally they have to
Speaker 3: protect themselve right, they can't legally put that they test
Speaker 3: their aircrafts over a spinning globe, right, Uh, they test
Speaker 3: their aircrafts, their satellites over a spinning It depends on
Speaker 3: what part of the world you're in. Let's call it
Speaker 3: eight hundred and fifty miles an hour around the equator
Speaker 3: at that point, because you're here, So we test our
Speaker 3: aircrafts and spacecrafts over this plot of globe and it's
Speaker 3: this much curvature detection and then the Earth is spinning,
Speaker 3: so we had to do a test moving it this
Speaker 3: way to go with the.
Speaker 2: Spin of the Earth. None of that's in documents.
Speaker 3: All it says in documents is a non rotating flat
Speaker 3: earth motionless. It's over one hundred documents NASA has, NASA
Speaker 3: has these are there. This is not from conspiracy dot
Speaker 3: com slash NASA. This is from NASA dot gov, their backlinks,
Speaker 3: all their documents. Everything they design with our tax money
Speaker 3: has to be documented. Okay, so they design and new
Speaker 3: they design, Well, it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: About hold on, you keep using the words have to
Speaker 2: they have to tell legally.
Speaker 3: They're legally yes, but let's I mean, really, everyone falls laws.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's legally they're supposed to tell the
Speaker 3: public because they're a public.
Speaker 2: They work for us.
Speaker 3: Okay, we are in control worthy Yeah allegedly exactly right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're never going to know the black budget. You
Speaker 1: know exactly what they're spending.
Speaker 2: But everything I say goes to what you're saying.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean allegedly, But at the same time,
Speaker 3: when it comes to actual documentation for your company, ink
Speaker 3: and paper, legally, legally written up.
Speaker 2: You can't put you test stuff over a spinning earth.
Speaker 3: You have to put the truth because then the public
Speaker 3: can hold you accountable for lawsuits. Then the publicans state, wait,
Speaker 3: you're stilling their tax money over this. You're still our
Speaker 3: tax money over what?
Speaker 2: Oh the the.
Speaker 3: Wwe we show you on TV about this globe thing? Like,
Speaker 3: that's your choice to believe that. We tell you in
Speaker 3: our legal documents it's a non rotating earth. I'm not
Speaker 3: stealing your tax money.
Speaker 2: We told you.
Speaker 3: We tell you all the time. The military tells you
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many proof of all of this shit.
Speaker 1: You know, you can call out NASA, you can call
Speaker 1: it the ISS and the space station and SpaceX and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and people want to believe that. And
Speaker 1: I feel like that's you know, more of the issue
Speaker 1: there is that it seems so cool, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: might we call a eyes on Mars one day?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: All it's so crazy because we want to think that
Speaker 1: we're bigger than what we are. And and I actually
Speaker 1: think that it's the reverse. But here's my thing. It's
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to wake somebody up, right, Like, normally
Speaker 1: you know, you go and wake up your wife or
Speaker 1: your husband, or your or your kids or whatever for school. Right,
Speaker 1: pretty easy to wake them up from sleep. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what's not easy is wake them up whenever they're
Speaker 1: pretending to sleep, do you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Is that when they're forcing their eyes closed, you can
Speaker 2: shake them and fuck with them all you want, They're
Speaker 2: going to keep their eyes closed if they want to keep.
Speaker 1: Their eyes closed exactly. And that's the problem here is
Speaker 1: that we want to believe, so we're pretending, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's that's what makes it so impossible,
Speaker 1: is because we want to believe that all this shit
Speaker 1: is really happening, dude, But it's all fucking pseudoscience.
Speaker 3: Well you know what it is. It's people they don't
Speaker 3: want to give stuff up. And and like mainly you
Speaker 3: compared to Santa Claus as a child, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: at five, when you're finally told Santa is not real,
Speaker 3: you don't want to you think of the kids like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: I mean maybe some but it's like what what.
Speaker 2: Yes he is? What do you mean what about last year?
Speaker 3: He ain't the cookie? So you're gonna defend it. You're
Speaker 3: gonna defend it not knowing what you're defending. You're not
Speaker 3: knowing what you don't even know what you're defending. You're
Speaker 3: defending an animation on a computer with a radar, right,
Speaker 3: So it's a child. You don't know what you're defending.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna defend it, and you're gonna cry, and
Speaker 3: you're gonna scream, and you're gonna kick and until.
Speaker 2: You accept it.
Speaker 3: And when you accepted, you felt you got raped. At
Speaker 3: the same time, your parents are liars, your teachers are liars,
Speaker 3: your grandma's a liar. Everyone's just fucking lied to me.
Speaker 3: Everyone's okay with it, and now they told me, by
Speaker 3: the way, your whole life's been a lie. It's like
Speaker 3: it affects us as children more than we expect. So
Speaker 3: when you're told, when you're taught and we all are
Speaker 3: at five years old, that you live on this basketball,
Speaker 3: you know, all you want to do is eat your
Speaker 3: cookie and you.
Speaker 2: Miss your mom.
Speaker 3: But they're like, no, you know what, fuck one plus
Speaker 3: one is two.
Speaker 2: This is where you live.
Speaker 3: Because if they don't get you right away, you're never
Speaker 3: gonna believe that. Ever they gotta get you when you
Speaker 3: believe there's a tooth fairy come in bruh. So you're
Speaker 3: gonna believe this ball shit. And that's why they don't
Speaker 3: talk about it. Throughout grade school and high school. They
Speaker 3: don't bring this shit up. Can you imagine, as senior
Speaker 3: in class present day, a teacher going, Okay, let's talk
Speaker 3: about the curvature of the earth.
Speaker 2: It would never happen.
Speaker 3: Lack of evidence and no evidence of curvature would be
Speaker 3: the starting point for school not to bring that up.
Speaker 3: But the third one is the type of world we
Speaker 3: live in. Now, there's gonna be half the class going,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, hold on, Now, I don't know about
Speaker 3: hol on, I got some evidence. A look at this
Speaker 3: mountain is five hundred miles away. Watch the next level,
Speaker 3: it's five hundred miles away. Look at this mountain. We
Speaker 3: re zomed in on what are you talking about? Eight
Speaker 3: inches per mile square? What are you talking about? So
Speaker 3: there'd be drama and beef and probably shootings over it by.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it probably would be the way people riot
Speaker 2: and get mad each other, You fight at each other
Speaker 2: like that. It's ridiculous these days, you right now, A
Speaker 2: person I.
Speaker 3: Taught it as as a critical thinker. You're not taught
Speaker 3: anything about your model, but you grow up defending a
Speaker 3: model you don't know anything about.
Speaker 2: That's the problem is.
Speaker 3: When you're defending something you know nothing about, you kind
Speaker 3: of can't give it up because now you're giving up
Speaker 3: your ego completely because you already.
Speaker 2: Have no evidence.
Speaker 3: Well, then it's like, but then why am I defending
Speaker 3: it if I don't have any evidence? And then when
Speaker 3: you start battling yourself that you don't have any evidence
Speaker 3: of something you're defending, it's either A or B. A
Speaker 3: you let go completely and wash it away and start
Speaker 3: over and you'll feel better, or B you're gonna you're
Speaker 3: never gonna give that up for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: You like double down on it.
Speaker 1: Perfect example, perfect example of this was literally just about
Speaker 1: an hour ago. You know, we're all sitting in the
Speaker 1: living room, we're watching this movie, and my daughter gets
Speaker 1: up and she goes, do you really believe that my
Speaker 1: daughter's eleven? By the way, Okay, there's no way about
Speaker 1: the Sam squash. There's no way she could possibly know
Speaker 1: for sure literally anything, your daughter is a savage. It's
Speaker 1: the indoctrination part of it is the is the thing,
Speaker 1: and it's not from its obviously, it's not from me.
Speaker 1: It's what they learn in the school system. And you know,
Speaker 1: eventually we hope to get to that homeschooling you know
Speaker 1: point in our life. No doubt, that's what we plan
Speaker 1: on doing with my my newest son. My newest son
Speaker 1: is seven months old. I'm pretty sure we're going to
Speaker 1: go through the homeschooling deal because dude, it's actually crazy,
Speaker 1: like so many people aren't. They're not even opening they're
Speaker 1: not even open to opening their eyes, okay, like to
Speaker 1: even the possibility of it. And that's you know, that's sad.
Speaker 2: I think most people don't have the capabilities or let
Speaker 2: me rephrase that, the means to do homeschooling. And if
Speaker 2: they did, I feel like most parents really don't understand
Speaker 2: how fucking tiring being a teacher is, especially to your
Speaker 2: child who doesn't listen to you because they don't see
Speaker 2: you as teacher, they see you as dad or mom.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of parents want to do the
Speaker 2: homeschooling thing until like rubber meets the road and they realize, yo,
Speaker 2: fuck this, I'd rather just pay a private school to
Speaker 2: do this. So I really do, hope and wish for
Speaker 2: the best for you. Brother, I know that I couldn't
Speaker 2: do it. I love my babies, but I ain't got
Speaker 2: it within me to be their teacher as well.
Speaker 1: Oh that's gonna be. That's the wife's job, bro.
Speaker 2: I want, you know, who's to say one way or another?
Speaker 2: I would like I would much rather teach my children
Speaker 2: life skills than book skills. Maybe I can help them
Speaker 2: with the other, but I'd really rather be there for
Speaker 2: the first you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So us being a conspiracy podcast, we get a lot
Speaker 1: of people that do love listening to the show, but
Speaker 1: also you're always going to have people who just talk
Speaker 1: massive amounts of shit of it, like about the.
Speaker 2: Shas hate, Tater's gone po tech people thing to.
Speaker 3: Help humanity, that's nothing at all.
Speaker 1: I literally have people in my life who don't talk
Speaker 1: to me anymore because they think that I'm crazy. Literally,
Speaker 1: And I can imagine you with your whole flat earth deal, right,
Speaker 1: like that's that's pretty much your whole life, right.
Speaker 2: There's been some hurdles in your way for this.
Speaker 1: Dude, have you gotten some serious hate mail for all
Speaker 1: this stuff?
Speaker 3: Uh? Just kind of people try to set me up
Speaker 3: actually today it was the setup too. I mean, like
Speaker 3: Sean this big show, Sean Atwood. They invite me on,
Speaker 3: and hey, man, we want to we want you on
Speaker 3: the show. But I'm like, I mean I already don't
Speaker 3: trust these type of shilly type of shows. But I
Speaker 3: was like, you know, and then I look into it
Speaker 3: and he's got some clown on there that hates me
Speaker 3: and calls me a Satanist and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: So it's like.
Speaker 3: Before I even before I even logged in to join
Speaker 3: the podcast, I'm like, wait, there's a huge channel. It's
Speaker 3: like almost a million subscribers. I'm like, let me go
Speaker 3: to their channel on YouTube and see what's going on first.
Speaker 3: Make sure they call me my real name or something.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know who this is. And I
Speaker 3: look and I see who's on the show, and I
Speaker 3: know exactly and I start watching it. I'm like, this
Speaker 3: is a fucking setup, dude. I'm like, and I've been
Speaker 3: in a lot of situations like that before, these setups,
Speaker 3: whether they're trying to get me in a corner to
Speaker 3: press on me about some shit and it's like you're
Speaker 3: not you can't outsmart me, bro, Like I don't care
Speaker 3: how big you are now, I dig it out smarter.
Speaker 3: Once I was on Sam Tripley's show, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, boom there's Alex Jones pops up.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I was gonna bring that up.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, hell no, his mission, his mission?
Speaker 2: He's on your team. Isn't that great?
Speaker 1: I never knew this.
Speaker 2: For the record, And also pause, I do not see
Speaker 2: this as teams.
Speaker 1: I'm not a game.
Speaker 2: We both agree the government is fucking us. We can
Speaker 2: agree on this point. We own the same team. Dog,
Speaker 2: You're already better than Alex on the topic.
Speaker 3: To me, Alex, Alex right away goes who's sitting next,
Speaker 3: because I was with Eddie Bravo, who's sitting by you there,
Speaker 3: Eddie Baby Hitler? And Eddie's like, nah, dude, it's Hibler
Speaker 3: Hibbler And He's like, hell Hibbler. He just starts this thing,
Speaker 3: hel Hibler. I'm like, dude, no, Jones, you're a piece
Speaker 3: of ship. I'll tell it to your fucking fat face too.
Speaker 1: Dude, you know. And that's something that we go back
Speaker 1: and forth with. I'm not gonna lie. I do give
Speaker 1: credit where credits due. Alex Jones walked me up to
Speaker 1: Aluminum and stuff. Yeah, I woke me up to a
Speaker 1: lot of things, you know, before I even look super
Speaker 1: deep into conspiracy. I listened to Alan Jones. They're turning
Speaker 1: the frogs Gate. Hey, dude, turned out to be true.
Speaker 1: You know, my thing is, Dude, I don't know, is
Speaker 1: he a fucking op? Like, what do you think? What
Speaker 1: do you think of Alex Jones? I mean, I know
Speaker 1: you only you only spend a little bit.
Speaker 2: Of time with about anyone.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay.
Speaker 3: I don't like to bring up names and characters and
Speaker 3: be pinned on a in a in.
Speaker 2: A group of haters or whatever.
Speaker 3: But sure, you know, for me, I mean got into
Speaker 3: my head.
Speaker 2: I don't trust him, okay.
Speaker 3: Just based off of his some of his agendas I see,
Speaker 3: I've seen in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seems like all he.
Speaker 3: Does is care about himself and his brand. He doesn't
Speaker 3: really care about humanity anymore if he ever did. But
Speaker 3: you know, I don't really get involved with that. I
Speaker 3: got mutual friends of his, So that's why I don't
Speaker 3: like talking about people like that. But uh, I did
Speaker 3: just earlier say I'll fucking tell him fuck off to
Speaker 3: his fat face. At the same time, I mean, he
Speaker 3: could take that however the fuck he wants. But uh,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just one of those things where lack
Speaker 3: of respect.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, when.
Speaker 3: A flatter, if there's introduced on his show or anything
Speaker 3: like that, he goes into full out goofy, chaotic, make
Speaker 3: sure that the listeners make fun of this guy along
Speaker 3: with me type of vibe. Yeah, and it's like, bro,
Speaker 3: like you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Man.
Speaker 3: And that's why I feel like he'll never be as
Speaker 3: big as he wants to be, because he is a
Speaker 3: gatekeeper in a sense where they're they're gonna let him
Speaker 3: talk about some topics and then when it comes to
Speaker 3: other topics, he has to dismiss him. It's a part
Speaker 3: of his contract. That's how his handlers are. I'm sure
Speaker 3: he was brought in. You snuck into Bohemian grove, right,
Speaker 3: he recorded seances by the elite, and now you have
Speaker 3: your own show.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, right, okay.
Speaker 1: It's kind of strange. Yeah, and you know, I just
Speaker 1: I'm so on the fence with it, Adam. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to make this an Alex Jones show, but I
Speaker 1: just wanted to. I knew that you. You know you
Speaker 1: hung out with him on Triple's show. I'm sure that was,
Speaker 1: you know, probably an experience, you know, just from what
Speaker 1: I heard and.
Speaker 2: Your boys with Eddie Bravo and you're wearing a ten
Speaker 2: playing it. Do you train no man? One day soon?
Speaker 1: One day?
Speaker 3: So I have not had any time to even think
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: Hear that hopefully I could take the next couple of
Speaker 3: months off and and get back in the gym, and
Speaker 3: then yeah, I got me his buddy. Our mind's like
Speaker 3: every every day, every other day, dude, let me train
Speaker 3: you for free.
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 3: Then then I'm like that, I'm like, okay, that sounds
Speaker 3: like a great deal. I'll still pay you. But it's
Speaker 3: the same time it's like and then what now what?
Speaker 3: And he's like then you go right to Eddie.
Speaker 2: I'm like whoa.
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, man, I'm like, I got to
Speaker 3: hit the gym first before I even get in the
Speaker 3: ring with you. Let alone, Ed get the fuck out
Speaker 3: of here one day, maybe one day.
Speaker 2: I just you know, that's my boy. So I would
Speaker 2: kill to get a lesson from Eddie Bravo. Oh, I know,
Speaker 2: he would fuck my world up without even without even
Speaker 2: putting forth effort. He would just say.
Speaker 3: Waiting with to sing him and Bryce on the ground.
Speaker 3: It was just us three in the corner I'm filming.
Speaker 3: I was, I was doing a favor for Bryce Mitchell,
Speaker 3: but just to see those two on the ground, you know,
Speaker 3: and Eddie teaching Bryce some moves and ship to do.
Speaker 3: My mind, man, I'm like, look at these guys.
Speaker 2: He is an artisan. He is an absolute tactician with
Speaker 2: body mechanics to a level that I honestly don't think
Speaker 2: I'll ever get to.
Speaker 1: But I wish I could just get a bit of it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to teach me the twister.
Speaker 3: I feel like, in reality, in a bar fight, if
Speaker 3: you know how to do the real if you really
Speaker 3: know how to do the twister, then even some big
Speaker 3: dude that's swinging on you, it's it's it's over for him.
Speaker 3: You might get hit, but it's over for him, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Who it is.
Speaker 1: I have no doubt, dude. I want to bring up
Speaker 1: the whole Challenger mission, bro, because it has been talked about.
Speaker 1: How there are you know, even if they're just lookalikes,
Speaker 1: it's pretty goddamn similar. What these people look like nowadays
Speaker 1: as opposed to what they look like back then.
Speaker 2: And I do want to say this, and for this
Speaker 2: is the people of the the U of my people
Speaker 2: of the Round Earth community, I.
Speaker 1: Will say this.
Speaker 2: I never really looked into the Challenger explosion in the
Speaker 2: conspiracy behind it. I knew that there was a conspiracy.
Speaker 2: I knew they said that it was a fake and
Speaker 2: da da da fine, and I kind of left it
Speaker 2: on the shelf right there as a potential. Maybe I'll
Speaker 2: dig into it one day watching this documentary. First of all,
Speaker 2: there is no way that this dude happen to have
Speaker 2: an identical twin brother. This other guy happened to have
Speaker 2: a brother that I might as well be an identical
Speaker 2: twin same speech pattern, same everything. There's no way that
Speaker 2: both of these dudes are also super tight friends. And
Speaker 2: you see them in pictures together all the time.
Speaker 1: Dude, the same scar by the mouth.
Speaker 2: The same scar by the mouth on the other guy.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just the dimple brother, there was an actual scar.
Speaker 2: It looked like a herpie scar. Not judging your boy,
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 3: And before he even said the word conspiracy, she.
Speaker 2: She knew, she knew what was about to happen. And
Speaker 2: so here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I started googling.
Speaker 2: By the way, I started googling that guy that filmed
Speaker 2: that real quick.
Speaker 3: The guy that filmed that for me, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: say his name, but he got it. He got authority,
Speaker 3: high figured authority, phone calls coming in that day, and
Speaker 3: he does not know how.
Speaker 2: Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 3: If you're a professor at Yale, none of that happens.
Speaker 3: But if you're an astronaut in a witness protection program,
Speaker 3: all of that happens.
Speaker 2: But continue, no, no, no, I agree one thousand percent. But
Speaker 2: as I'm watching, I'm starting to google these names, these people,
Speaker 2: the people that are living today with the exact same
Speaker 2: names and the exact same facial features, dental features, scars
Speaker 2: and everything as the quote unquote past astronauts that ceased.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, I'm sorry. Once again, how many red
Speaker 2: flags do you have to see before it's mathematically and impossibility.
Speaker 3: And what about Dick Scoby's website that he took down.
Speaker 3: We got screenshots of that. And when you went to
Speaker 3: cowsantrees dot com. As soon as you went to the website,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a cow with a rocket, doing the
Speaker 3: doing the smoke six and then taking off. Wait, you're
Speaker 3: a marketing firm. What does that have to do with space?
Speaker 3: What does it have to do with clouds? I was
Speaker 3: gonna ask Richard Scoby. Oh that oh he looks just
Speaker 3: like him.
Speaker 2: Oh where's your website?
Speaker 3: Now, Bro's that's the power that humanity doesn't know they have,
Speaker 3: because we made videos in twenty sixteen about it.
Speaker 2: He dissolved his company. Wait, hold only they were a
Speaker 2: marketing firm. Yeah, marketing firm. The cows in trees thing.
Speaker 2: I remember hearing about that once up all a time
Speaker 2: when we just watched it on the thing. But like,
Speaker 2: hold on, I thought that maybe it was a I
Speaker 2: actually didn't even know what the company was.
Speaker 1: I must have missed it if it was said, but I.
Speaker 2: Didn't realize it was a marketing firm. Yep, okay, wow,
Speaker 2: not a.
Speaker 1: Good look, a good look at all.
Speaker 3: Now, look at you shut your Facebook down, you delete
Speaker 3: your website, and you delete all evidence that you own
Speaker 3: that company off the internet. But I paid for a
Speaker 3: people search and I made sure that the public saw
Speaker 3: that that is his company.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: Whoa dude, you are fucking balls deep in this stuff.
Speaker 2: You did your fucking homework. Really good show, dude.
Speaker 1: There's just so many things that I'm like trying to
Speaker 1: remember to go over. So I wanted to get your
Speaker 1: opinion or you know, just try and think about the
Speaker 1: perspective of these uote to unquote astronauts, right, Like, let's
Speaker 1: say they do get somebody like your boy who went
Speaker 1: up and started asking questions. I mean, are they trained
Speaker 1: on what to say? If they are, you know.
Speaker 3: Kind of, they're about to be soon they have to be, right. Well,
Speaker 3: if they're not, they're about to be after this film
Speaker 3: hits YouTube for free because they can't stop it at
Speaker 3: that point. They could stop the rentals right now and
Speaker 3: hide it and hide it on Vimeo and not even
Speaker 3: market rockfinever. So the mainstream doesn't really know about it yet.
Speaker 2: But just wait, just.
Speaker 1: Wait, dude, Yeah, I just think about what.
Speaker 3: If you want to see chickens with their head cut off,
Speaker 3: you guys are gonna see it. I've been knocking on
Speaker 3: NASA's door for three straight years and no one wants
Speaker 3: to answer.
Speaker 2: This film will make them answer.
Speaker 3: And I'm ready for the war because if people don't
Speaker 3: get on board with this, they're gonna be able to
Speaker 3: do whatever they want with us for the rest of
Speaker 3: our lives and our children's lives. So if humanity can
Speaker 3: step up and call these people out and tell them that,
Speaker 3: why don't you take that seventy million dollars a day
Speaker 3: at three hundred and thirty billion dollars a year worldwide
Speaker 3: space budget and eradicate homelessness, and eradicate children trafficking, and
Speaker 3: eradicate starving children, and you'll still have change leftover. So
Speaker 3: dissolving the fake space program and abolishing the Antarctic Treaty
Speaker 3: is my goal in life.
Speaker 2: But I'm doing it through films because I have to.
Speaker 2: We live in a.
Speaker 3: Society that if you don't entertain them, they're not even
Speaker 3: gonna listen, agreed, So I hear, I have to entertain
Speaker 3: them with truth, and I don't think anyone's tried to
Speaker 3: entertain with truth. I think people can bring truth to
Speaker 3: a documentary format, but usually with the truth documentary, whether
Speaker 3: it be just call it sasquash, call it you know, chemtrails.
Speaker 2: I mean they could be boring, so it can be yeah,
Speaker 2: and it can be very black pilling, it could be
Speaker 2: very nihilistic when you really realize how fucked we all are,
Speaker 2: and how we've been that way since day one. Everything
Speaker 2: we've learned is a lie.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: It's a very pressing pill.
Speaker 1: To swallow, I understand, right.
Speaker 2: But then you understand that there's a plan in place,
Speaker 2: and depending on what your religious beliefs are, or what
Speaker 2: you believe happens on creation or with spiritualistic whatever, whatever
Speaker 2: flavor you get down with, you understand who organized religions
Speaker 2: at all. None of them.
Speaker 3: I think they were all designed by the same puppet masters.
Speaker 3: I think if you actually go back in history you
Speaker 3: could see that Freemason's design. They created these religions to
Speaker 3: divert everybody, especially when the reset happened. They knew that
Speaker 3: these different types of people were gonna be They're going
Speaker 3: to force this melting pot in the peasant world lab
Speaker 3: rat world we live in now. They were going to
Speaker 3: force everybody in the center pond, which we're stuck in
Speaker 3: at the moment because of the treaty. But they knew
Speaker 3: that the only way to make those people fight amongst
Speaker 3: each other so we can build our new world order
Speaker 3: is religion. So they had organized religion stuff with different
Speaker 3: this one has this god, this one has this god.
Speaker 3: This one has a guy that walked on water. Apparently,
Speaker 3: this one has this, this one has this, all these
Speaker 3: stories so everyone could fight and have wars and kill
Speaker 3: each other while they're going ahead to plan their New
Speaker 3: World Order agenda. They need us fighting because if we're
Speaker 3: not fighting, then we need to fight someone as humans.
Speaker 3: It's how human nature is. We be fighting them, so
Speaker 3: they have to make us fight each other. They have
Speaker 3: many ways to do it's sports, race, race stuff.
Speaker 2: There's there's a million ways to do it.
Speaker 3: Politics obviously. Yeah, so, but yeah, that's the big one though.
Speaker 3: That's a big I mean, that's why they were okay
Speaker 3: with round to Earth versus Flat Earth talk in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: That's why they made documentaries like Netflix is behind the
Speaker 3: Curve and what's his name? The flat Earth guy who
Speaker 3: uh uh not Andrew, I forgot his name.
Speaker 2: He's a real big YouTube star, like millions and millions
Speaker 2: of ascribed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know you're talking about flat Earth.
Speaker 2: Documentary Mark Sergeant.
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, he's another one, but no, it's another guy.
Speaker 2: They're just it's a joke.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's to make people think flat earthers are stupid.
Speaker 3: They live with their mom and that we live in
Speaker 3: a snow globe. You know, it's like none of that.
Speaker 3: I don't can test to any of that shit. So
Speaker 3: when people know that my films.
Speaker 2: Can never make Netflix or Amazon Prime, they won't allow it.
Speaker 2: Why not? We have to ask yourself, why not am I.
Speaker 3: Hurting anyone by giving us our opinion on where we
Speaker 3: live and satellites and our opinions on the challenger, all
Speaker 3: these facts and evidence and documents.
Speaker 2: Is that what's wrong with that?
Speaker 3: That's what a documentary is supposed to be about, is
Speaker 3: an alternative thing, Like here's our evidence that we're going
Speaker 3: to show you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Netflix won't allow this because it's too offensive, but they
Speaker 2: will have qts on. Yeah, they will blast that and
Speaker 2: it will be number one in the ratings and all
Speaker 2: that shit, and they'll pump it as long as they
Speaker 2: allow it.
Speaker 3: That's completely fine. And then then they have, you know,
Speaker 3: damaging films up the ass. Damaging documentaries meant, I mean
Speaker 3: just psychological warfare, psychological operation type of documentaries on there
Speaker 3: that they're trying to sell us truth, but it's all lies.
Speaker 3: So again I have to fight the good fight to
Speaker 3: even get my films out there. With these other films
Speaker 3: are being promoted, and it's like, you know, and the
Speaker 3: problem is like normal people, like in my life, even
Speaker 3: when the Flat Earth came out and I was all
Speaker 3: I was doing my thing in twenty sixteen, I have
Speaker 3: people like, hey man, we heard that you're a flat
Speaker 3: earth there it's you know, I'm like okay, and and
Speaker 3: they're like, well, we watched the documentary on Netflix, man,
Speaker 3: and yeah, we're we're just gonna you.
Speaker 2: Know, we love you, but we I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I lost people from like I have nothing
Speaker 3: to do with that documentary. That's that I don't agree
Speaker 3: with ninety percent of what's in there at all. But
Speaker 3: that's the point of them promoting a film like that
Speaker 3: is so a normal person that says, let me give
Speaker 3: in for one minute and just see what they're talking about.
Speaker 3: None of that is what we're talking about. But they
Speaker 3: show it, and they do this grand scale they promoted.
Speaker 3: They they you know, there's advertisements, go watch behind the Curve.
Speaker 3: Every mainstream platform is talking about it. Every news channel's
Speaker 3: talking about it. They're going into Mark Sarton's conferences. You know,
Speaker 3: Jimmy Kimmel lives there. Why is Jimmy Kimmel live there.
Speaker 2: What the fuck? So it's like, oh, I get what
Speaker 2: they're doing.
Speaker 3: They're they're they're doing that George Bush New type of thing.
Speaker 3: They're making the conspiracies that we're just you know, we're
Speaker 3: not spinning. And but we're in a snow globe and
Speaker 3: you know there's a glass piece of you know whatever
Speaker 3: that's called topper for your dinner plate that.
Speaker 2: Above us, Like, how do who said that? What are
Speaker 2: you talking about it? Do you? Let me ask you?
Speaker 3: Do you think that flat earthers think like we could
Speaker 3: write our name on a dome and enterretic are like
Speaker 3: Sean was here, there's a dome, Like is that what
Speaker 3: you think in your mind?
Speaker 2: Like all I have heard, No, I don't believe it
Speaker 2: all flat earthers. I've learned this much. And this is
Speaker 2: and I hate even having the flat earth talk because
Speaker 2: I feel like it's more or less just dividing the
Speaker 2: conspiracy community. And now we have infighting amongst ourselves on
Speaker 2: something that truly doesn't matter. And I know you're going
Speaker 2: to disagree with this. I know you're going to disagree
Speaker 2: with this, behoe, and let me make my point. I
Speaker 2: don't it's I understand where it's coming from. I understand
Speaker 2: whe're being lied to. I understand trying to wake people
Speaker 2: up all of that. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: we're still clocking into work Monday morning. We're still getting
Speaker 2: by our government.
Speaker 3: Man, they got you, bro, that's right where they want you.
Speaker 2: You know who. You know last time I clocked in
Speaker 2: the work was four years ago. That's because you're following
Speaker 2: a passion. You found a way to capitalize on it.
Speaker 2: And dude, I am so happy for you.
Speaker 3: Man, No, that's because I can manifest now and I
Speaker 3: can sungaze, I can do things that they will never
Speaker 3: teach you in school.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, and again you have a system that's
Speaker 2: working for you, and brother, I am happy as hell
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't have you can't have a realistic
Speaker 3: manifestation and a power over yourself. If you're lost in
Speaker 3: space and you came from a monkey, you can't cherry
Speaker 3: pick your own theory. You came from a monkey, you
Speaker 3: mean nothing. And there's other planets bigger than this that
Speaker 3: are way more advanced than this, So your life can't
Speaker 3: really have meeting and you can't think there's a creator
Speaker 3: because a globe came from a big bang. So there's
Speaker 3: a lot of disconnects that you might cherry pick, but
Speaker 3: you can't.
Speaker 2: That is not at all how that works or cherry picking.
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 3: I'm saying globers will globers love to cherry pick those thoughts.
Speaker 2: I believe I can believe it. The Creator. Still, No,
Speaker 2: you can't. It's a big Bang theory. The Creator caused
Speaker 2: the Big Bang. That's the first time I've ever heard
Speaker 2: that in my life.
Speaker 3: Really, start a book if you started a book that
Speaker 3: said the Creator started the Big Bang theory.
Speaker 2: No, not the Big Bang theory. I'm saying that God
Speaker 2: made the Big Bang happen. You can't make anything out
Speaker 2: of nothing. Only the Creator could do that.
Speaker 3: No Big Bang says that you can create nothing and
Speaker 3: have it explode. I mean nothing exploded and turned it
Speaker 3: into everything. That's what the Big Bang's saying.
Speaker 2: Well, the Big Bang is more of the how, not
Speaker 2: the why.
Speaker 3: Well would you agree or disagree that people that talk
Speaker 3: pro Big Bang and that we came from a big bang,
Speaker 3: whether that's mainstream people or not. Are they God fearing
Speaker 3: human beings or are they more of a religion?
Speaker 2: Is stupid type of people? What do you think they are?
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna answer your question with another one, bringing
Speaker 2: back to do I believe the flatter to believe that
Speaker 2: there's a glass dome that you can go up to
Speaker 2: it in Ordica and write on I have, and that
Speaker 2: was what led down this rabbit hole. I have heard
Speaker 2: so many different flat earthers say so many different theories
Speaker 2: as to what it could be. No one knows for sure, Okay,
Speaker 2: and I'm not using that to poke Holt. I get it.
Speaker 2: Do I believe that it is the Van Allen radiation
Speaker 2: belt and that's the firmament. Do I believe it's an
Speaker 2: actual glass glass dome? Do I believe it's a crystal?
Speaker 2: Do I believe it's some sort of extra force that
Speaker 2: doesn't fit into our periodic table?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Sure points to all of it. I have nothing to
Speaker 2: say for or against it. But in the same regard
Speaker 2: how many Christians believe or I would say, I got
Speaker 2: a big problem with most people that call themselves Christians. Though,
Speaker 2: you got to understand my standpoint on this. I'm not
Speaker 2: your typically you're not. Well, No, it's not that, it's
Speaker 2: just I have a different view than a lot of
Speaker 2: people because I actually try to follow the word as
Speaker 2: best I can, and I'm a horrible living representation of that.
Speaker 2: But that being said, do I mean the word of
Speaker 2: the Bible? Okay, the word of the Bible says in
Speaker 2: the beginning that was God. You're talking about that. You
Speaker 2: follow the word of the Bible as much as I can,
Speaker 2: as much as I can. Yes, would you skipped Genesis? No,
Speaker 2: I'm talking Genesis. It said God created it. It didn't
Speaker 2: say how God created it said he created in a
Speaker 2: day period. That's how much fucking time God wanted us
Speaker 2: to spend on it. He spent that much time in
Speaker 2: this entire book on that. And so toil my point,
Speaker 2: as far as it doesn't matter. You believe in manifestation.
Speaker 2: I believe in that in a sense, I believe in
Speaker 2: speaking things into existence.
Speaker 1: The Bible. There's one hundred and.
Speaker 2: Fifty verses in the Bible that say the earth is flat?
Speaker 2: So what would you? I don't get what you.
Speaker 1: Have I have to do with.
Speaker 2: I know more about it. I saw somewhere there was
Speaker 2: two hundred verses, and I have a list of them,
Speaker 2: and I do need to go down them individually.
Speaker 3: Is yeah with translation? Yeah, that's probably they could probably keep.
Speaker 3: There's probably going to be more coming. But here's the thing, though,
Speaker 3: When the Bible that you say you try to live
Speaker 3: by states over and over again that the Earth is
Speaker 3: fixed in its position and not moving, and that the sun, moon,
Speaker 3: and stars are rotating around us. That separates the seasons.
Speaker 3: There's tons of passages about it. That's again back to
Speaker 3: cherry picking. A lot of Globers like to cherry pick
Speaker 3: either their Bible or their religion, because being a heliocentric
Speaker 3: model believer is a religion. You don't have any evidence
Speaker 3: that we're spinning, you don't have any evidence of curvature,
Speaker 3: you don't have any evidence of anything that they're telling
Speaker 3: you that we're going four different speeds in four different directions,
Speaker 3: speeding up, slowing down, speeding up, slowing down. But then
Speaker 3: you go to a calm lake and the water's not
Speaker 3: even fucking moving. You can see the reflection of the
Speaker 3: goddamn mountain. Nothing is moving. But you don't want to
Speaker 3: trust your senses or your Bible.
Speaker 2: And that's the point the cherry picking. That is cherry picking.
Speaker 2: When you look at you, I'm not saying you're doing it,
Speaker 2: but the list of these two hundred verses. That's one
Speaker 2: hundred percent cherry picking. So when I say, I gotta
Speaker 2: do a deep dive in it, the same way I
Speaker 2: tell people not to cherry pick anything from anywhere, look
Speaker 2: at time, place, audience, and context. So when you see
Speaker 2: something in the Bible, when it's talking about the stars
Speaker 2: not moving, okay, why is that being said? Who is
Speaker 2: saying it? Who is he saying it too? Is this
Speaker 2: a parable about a lesson? Is this a story about existence?
Speaker 2: I can't say it this time one way or another.
Speaker 2: I have to do a deep dive on it. So
Speaker 2: I'm not negating it. I'm saying that I do not.
Speaker 1: Know it backwards and forwards.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do a biblical flat earth show.
Speaker 3: You no, Do you know the Son of God used
Speaker 3: to be spelled s u n You know.
Speaker 2: That it depends on which translation you look at.
Speaker 3: And all the English history, the original, the original Bible
Speaker 3: is all said son of God. And if you understand
Speaker 3: the sun outside that local light in the sky, how
Speaker 3: much it actually means to us.
Speaker 2: We can't live without it, nor facts without it. So
Speaker 2: you know I've never heard that, by the way, about
Speaker 2: the s u n being up until a certain point,
Speaker 2: I've never seen it. So think about it.
Speaker 3: If you think about it, that's the only thing that
Speaker 3: actually does walk on water. Go to the beach and
Speaker 3: prove me wrong. You see the reflection of the sun
Speaker 3: on the water and its arms are doing this across
Speaker 3: the horizon. Not only that, but God says that you
Speaker 3: cannot get to the Kingdom unless you go through the sun.
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2: That's a portal.
Speaker 3: I've been saying that shit, that's the highest vibration. If
Speaker 3: you're vibrating that high of the stun, when you ascend here,
Speaker 3: you are going to the Kingdom in my opinion, because
Speaker 3: you're mass the test of Mario Brothers.
Speaker 2: This is a Mario Brothers game.
Speaker 3: We're in, brother and you might be on level twelve,
Speaker 3: which is better than all most of society, people like
Speaker 3: me on level forty. We're just trying to help you
Speaker 3: get there because once you get to a certain level,
Speaker 3: like Santos Bonacci level one hundred mics stood. Once you
Speaker 3: get to that level, you'll ascend with peace. Man, you're
Speaker 3: immortal son.
Speaker 2: You talk about Jesus, you understand that was actually a
Speaker 2: historical guy. Who walked the earth. Even atheists have to
Speaker 2: agree with that because it's been proven. Now you talk
Speaker 2: about walking on water and all these things. Look the
Speaker 2: miracles of Jesus. Understand that they are in fact miracles.
Speaker 2: They cannot be explained with science. But there's also thousands
Speaker 2: of eyewitness reports. I don't accept anything you just said, though,
Speaker 2: Why because you can't prove it? No, it's because I
Speaker 2: don't trust history. Okay, So let me ask you. Do
Speaker 2: you believe that the American Civil War actually took place?
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the reasons why or the fallouts?
Speaker 2: Da da da? Do you believe the Battle of Gettysburg
Speaker 2: actually took place?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think a lot of these wars actually took place.
Speaker 3: I think that the reason they started and the reason
Speaker 3: they ended are completely bullshit.
Speaker 2: But okay, fair, So let's take it a little bit back.
Speaker 2: Do you believe Alexander the Great actually rode for seven
Speaker 2: years and conquested as they say, he did not really mess? Okay,
Speaker 2: the same thing.
Speaker 3: About Copernicus Galileo. Here, you know these guys knew the
Speaker 3: earth was round two thousand years ago?
Speaker 1: Okay, No, no, I'm hearing you, dude.
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask I believe.
Speaker 3: I don't believe any of these stories. I think they're
Speaker 3: all modern stories that are taught as history.
Speaker 2: Okay, so tell me where you personally draw the line.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to discredit you. I've actually been trying
Speaker 2: to get to this because everybody I asked, they say,
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty on back they don't believe shit, or eighteen
Speaker 2: hundred on back, and I want to hear your reason. Why,
Speaker 2: So where do you draw the line?
Speaker 3: I draw the line generally speak in late eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 3: mid eight teen hundreds, because as far as people don't
Speaker 3: think this, there were videos, there.
Speaker 2: Were photos back then.
Speaker 3: The yeah, I know that there were were actually taught
Speaker 3: universally that there was then, by the way.
Speaker 2: But there was.
Speaker 3: And when you look at the old structures of our
Speaker 3: lost history of different probably everywhere across the plane, I
Speaker 3: mean every continent had these buildings and structures that looked
Speaker 3: like were designed for giants. It looks like they were
Speaker 3: built for larger humans, and that construction can't be even
Speaker 3: be pretended to be redesigned today. I look at it
Speaker 3: like this man. The simple fact that I'm thirty eight
Speaker 3: years old and as of two years ago, before two
Speaker 3: years ago. I did not even know that there was
Speaker 3: that there were these buildings and lost civilization type of
Speaker 3: tartaria whatever people call it.
Speaker 2: That existed.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know that the Chicago fire was them
Speaker 3: trying to burn them down, trying to burn them down.
Speaker 2: What are you burning down?
Speaker 3: You're burning down our real history. With free energy, everyone
Speaker 3: knew the Earth was a stationary plane. There was no agendas,
Speaker 3: everyone had a higher vibration. Everyone gave for free, everyone bartered,
Speaker 3: everyone was great.
Speaker 2: There was probably giants. I wasn't there.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but there was probably mixed types of
Speaker 3: stuff going on here, and who knows what happened. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to sit here and say the world reset.
Speaker 3: It definitely looks that way to me, but.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of evidence to say we had a
Speaker 2: couple of hard resets correct.
Speaker 3: So again with the hard reset comes false history. You
Speaker 3: can't say that, well, no, we had a reset, but
Speaker 3: that's still the same Copernicus history. You know, they're just
Speaker 3: still going to continue, you know, they're going to keep
Speaker 3: teaching the facts. No, the new people that come in
Speaker 3: decide to start a new world order against humanity and
Speaker 3: bring people in by trains and bring babies in from
Speaker 3: the outer lands and have this lab rat island. I
Speaker 3: call it Lake, Big Lake we live in now of
Speaker 3: lab rats and and them figuring out what they're going
Speaker 3: to do to rule us all in the process. You
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna sit there and go, Wait, they light
Speaker 3: about all these buildings. They lie about the civilization right
Speaker 3: before us. They lied about there was even no one here.
Speaker 3: In the mid eighteen hundreds. You see these pictures of
Speaker 3: San Francisco and there's zero human beings in it.
Speaker 2: It's old rush hit everyone. Where is everyone?
Speaker 3: So why don't Why didn't I know this until thirty
Speaker 3: six years old? It's because it's true. Because they're hiding it.
Speaker 3: They're they're they're they hide the books about more continents
Speaker 3: and more land when they purposely hide stuff, and I
Speaker 3: have to dig and dig and dig to find it.
Speaker 3: I don't have to dig, defy Copernicus. I don't have
Speaker 3: to dig to find Alexander the Great. I don't have
Speaker 3: to dig to find Queen Elizabeth stories. I don't have
Speaker 3: to dig because these are the stories. They're they're galileos,
Speaker 3: and they're all this stuff. This guy with a eighteenth
Speaker 3: sixteen hundred whatever year that was has a telescope, probably
Speaker 3: what a two X We'll give them a three X zoom.
Speaker 3: It was the sixteen, I'll give them a three X zoom.
Speaker 3: I'll just for safety purposes a three X zoom. That's
Speaker 3: our iPhones are better now. But he could tell by
Speaker 3: doing this that the Earth is a ball. So that's
Speaker 3: the main story where Todd school as a guy said, Look,
Speaker 3: I have this telescope.
Speaker 2: Let me go like this.
Speaker 3: Oh I see another moon up there. Yeah, we're a ball.
Speaker 3: Look up at your ceiling. What shape are your lights?
Speaker 2: The light bulb it slobe? Yeah, spherical? Does that determine
Speaker 2: the floor? Now?
Speaker 3: I mean, let's be real. So again, just base off
Speaker 3: the simple fact that we're all taught the earth's a
Speaker 3: ball because a guy with a hat named Columbus he
Speaker 3: saw a boat go down the curve. Well, we've debunked
Speaker 3: that for eight nine straight years now, and I'll debunk
Speaker 3: it in your face with any any sort of nikon p.
Speaker 3: Nine hundred or p. One thousand, I will bet every
Speaker 3: cent I have and every cent I will have in
Speaker 3: the future that I will bring that boat back in
Speaker 3: once you think it went.
Speaker 2: Over your little curve.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Columbus, I mean Pernicus was wrong or whoever.
Speaker 3: So they're wrong, they're debunked. Now let's tell you about
Speaker 3: this two X guy. Well, he's wrong because when I
Speaker 3: zooming on that dot in the sky, it's not two X,
Speaker 3: it's one twenty X. And I can see that it's
Speaker 3: a frequency of vibration underneath water. So I can see
Speaker 3: it myself. I don't need you, or science, or school
Speaker 3: or the History channel to tell me what the fuck's
Speaker 3: above me and to tell me what I'm on.
Speaker 2: You can do these things yourself.
Speaker 3: But all the pseudo science they tell us about that
Speaker 3: we're spinning one thousand miles an hour, and we're going
Speaker 3: around the Sun at sixty six thousand, six hundred miles
Speaker 3: an hour, six six six always with them, and that's
Speaker 3: how much we're traveling around the Sun. And then we're
Speaker 3: going millions of miles now around the galaxy, and everything's
Speaker 3: going in a crazy beehive. But yet we have the
Speaker 3: same stars circling our head for thousands of years now.
Speaker 3: Oliver Anchis wrote about the same stars, no change in parallax,
Speaker 3: no change of brightness. They're the same goddamn stars. Besides Polaris.
Speaker 3: Every star goes around it. Polaris doesn't move. So if
Speaker 3: we're behiven doing all this stuff, we should have new
Speaker 3: stars every night.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you two questions. Left, Two questions.
Speaker 2: We talk about the ancients, all right, And again, you're
Speaker 2: very passionate about this, and I can hear it, and
Speaker 2: it sounds like you're getting defensive. And I don't want
Speaker 2: you to think I'm coming at you. I thoroughly enjoyed
Speaker 2: your your products, sir, I really want you. I promise
Speaker 2: I'm not getting defensive. Man, Okay, I don't. Nothing's personal, Okay,
Speaker 2: making sure, making sure, all right? So two things. One
Speaker 2: with the ancient Greeks. Now, the argument that the ancient
Speaker 2: Greeks knew that the Earth was round, and this and
Speaker 2: this right. But the argument that I hear from the
Speaker 2: flat Earth community is that all ancient religions, for the religions,
Speaker 2: knew that the Earth was flat. So if we're talking
Speaker 2: about ancient Greece, the Titan Atlas that is made to
Speaker 2: hold up the Earth, why is it always round? That's
Speaker 2: not a new adaptation. Even the ancient Greeks knew that
Speaker 2: he was holding up a round Earth. So where did
Speaker 2: we get round, then it was meant to be flat,
Speaker 2: but they kind of just got that one fucked up,
Speaker 2: and they're the only isolated case, even though India had
Speaker 2: similar things and China had similar things. Now granted that
Speaker 2: was small sex, it was not the entire nation as
Speaker 2: we see it today. I get it. But basically, this
Speaker 2: flat versus round debate has been going on for a
Speaker 2: couple of millennia, give or take. Disagree, Okay, help me
Speaker 2: out here.
Speaker 3: Well again, talk to anyone above the cut. It's getting
Speaker 3: close now ninety eight, ninety nine, but it's going to
Speaker 3: be harder and harder every year that passes, because they're
Speaker 3: dying off. But in the next level, my film from
Speaker 3: last year, we had one hundred and five year old
Speaker 3: on there and she said that all public schools and
Speaker 3: there was no talk of a globe. It was they
Speaker 3: taught the Earth was flat. It was common knowledge.
Speaker 2: It was like, but was holding up a globe? Okay?
Speaker 3: Can you prove that that that was actually here on
Speaker 3: Earth in the eighteen hundreds or seventeen hundreds?
Speaker 2: Can you I can prove that that statue has been
Speaker 2: there since the ancient Greeks? Yeah, okay, I mean saying
Speaker 2: how how do you how can you prove that? I
Speaker 2: know I'm asking, I'm being genious. That's like saying, do
Speaker 2: you believe the coliseum was here back then? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of documentation to say so, the massive
Speaker 2: statue of Atlas and all of the written doc documentation
Speaker 2: as far as what we know about the Greek religion,
Speaker 2: the entire pantheon of the gods, the depictions, the paintings,
Speaker 2: the cults that followed. Yeah, we have a lot of
Speaker 2: documentation to say that that was what they thought.
Speaker 1: If we're going Greek, though, you can't just cherry pick
Speaker 1: off of it because usn't as an example for an example.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've talked a lot about how Greek it's
Speaker 1: all mythology, right. You were just talking last night about
Speaker 1: how old boy like he came in somebody's bread.
Speaker 2: Shows the Egyptian religion. I swear to God. These people
Speaker 2: that think that somehow Tauth and Osiris are like the
Speaker 2: way to enlighten, I'm like, you realize Tauth is wearing
Speaker 2: his nephew's com crown on his head. That's really what
Speaker 2: that is. Please read into egyptology.
Speaker 1: Right, But what I'm saying is like Obviously, like Thor
Speaker 1: and Odin and Loki, these are all fictional characters. So
Speaker 1: whenever we're talking about a statue of a fictional character,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if they're claiming that it was a
Speaker 1: ball or if it was flat.
Speaker 2: He's holding up the earth because that was his punishment.
Speaker 1: A fictional character holding up a possible fictional thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, so if we're going in the realm of fiction
Speaker 2: on fiction, then it does matter. The entire stories could
Speaker 2: put But my point is if he was supposed to
Speaker 2: be holding up the earth, the Greeks would have made
Speaker 2: it flat if they believed that it was a flat earth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but how would you not know that?
Speaker 3: In the reset of the mid eighteen hundreds, when the
Speaker 3: Freemason's white wives called free Mason Freemasonry, they got the
Speaker 3: all the tartarian stuff they got they own now because
Speaker 3: the world reset, they're free Masons.
Speaker 2: They got all of it for free. What are they
Speaker 2: going to do with it? The free Masons came around
Speaker 2: the sixteen hundreds. Where do you get the hard reset
Speaker 2: in the eighteen that the Masons took over?
Speaker 3: Oh, it looks like the Masons told you that story
Speaker 3: that they came in the sixteen hundreds didn't.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's arguably they go back way further than that.
Speaker 2: But the Free and accepted Masons into I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about all Freemasonry. I'm talking about the current agenda. The
Speaker 2: current New World order has been built for over one
Speaker 2: hundred years.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: These guys that now, they're the ones that took over
Speaker 3: and they burned down Chicago. They burned these buildings down.
Speaker 3: They hid it all from us. They also created characters,
Speaker 3: and sure enough they're all Free Masons. Copernicus, Galileo, Eris Fostines,
Speaker 3: all these people in their artists impressions, which looks like
Speaker 3: they're all drawn from the same guy, but.
Speaker 2: They all lived in different eras.
Speaker 3: But you see these artists impressions of these characters, as
Speaker 3: I call them, all the characters you're talking about. I
Speaker 3: don't care if they're Greek, I don't care what they are.
Speaker 3: How do you know that that happened? That it's a story.
Speaker 3: You can choose to believe the story, or you can
Speaker 3: choose to not believe their story. When I look at
Speaker 3: all their stories, even the most of the stories. We're
Speaker 3: all taught in history class today, and we were taught
Speaker 3: in school when we were young. It's all the same,
Speaker 3: so it hasn't changed. All the history is a lie.
Speaker 3: So I can't bank on how hard would it be.
Speaker 3: Let's just fantasize the Freemasons said, you know what, we
Speaker 3: got this and we're going to take all this stuff
Speaker 3: and start this giant new world order. And you do
Speaker 3: all this stuff and hide all this history and hide
Speaker 3: all the truth from everybody, which is what the world
Speaker 3: we're living in now.
Speaker 2: It's all hidden.
Speaker 3: And how hard would it be for let's just say
Speaker 3: eighteen eighty four, or they're going to start a new
Speaker 3: curriculum and they're gonna start a new history, and they're
Speaker 3: gonna make up their own They're gonna say, look, we
Speaker 3: got guys from three thousand years ago that agree with us.
Speaker 2: What are we gonna name them? Call them Copernicus?
Speaker 3: Okay, cool Copernicus, and before they hit the school books.
Speaker 3: Because none of this was taught to people one hundred
Speaker 3: years ago. You have, that's one thing you have to understand.
Speaker 3: There was no and that's what you said. That's why
Speaker 3: I had to interrupt. You said that this has been
Speaker 3: going on for thousands of years.
Speaker 2: Back and forth.
Speaker 3: No, that's the story that they told you about the
Speaker 3: globe years ago.
Speaker 2: What was the literacy rate in America one hundred years ago?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Of course they what did they sell you on? Because
Speaker 3: they were a lot more advanced and smarter than we are.
Speaker 3: You got to put your ego aside. Man, you think
Speaker 3: that happened the Internet is cool?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's nothing to do with the Internet. You
Speaker 2: know that. I could show you a book.
Speaker 3: From eighteen ninety eight that they were talking about flat
Speaker 3: screen TVs and electric cars and advanced civilizations because it
Speaker 3: was in the outer lands stuff, all the stuff we
Speaker 3: have now hit. It's been out for a long time.
Speaker 3: They want us to think that we're the superior era.
Speaker 3: We're the superior generation. We have the best technological advances. Ever,
Speaker 3: although we can't go back to the moon nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 3: Equipment can only get there, and we can't do it anymore.
Speaker 3: We lost the technology. No, no, they want you to
Speaker 3: think that we're smarter and better and bigger than all
Speaker 3: of our ancients. But the truth is our ancients lived
Speaker 3: off of free energy, free clean water, and they lived
Speaker 3: a lot hella longer than we did, so they must
Speaker 3: have been doing something right.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a huge misconception, is that we've evolved
Speaker 1: into the smartest of the possible race. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like everybody.
Speaker 3: The way they can sell you on it is you
Speaker 3: evolve from a monkey, So of course we're the smartest breed.
Speaker 1: Right And also by thinking that, you know, the people
Speaker 1: at the top are the smartest and the most evolved,
Speaker 1: and we have the best technology and the best electronics
Speaker 1: and everything. There's no reason for us to venture anywhere
Speaker 1: else anywhere else, right, Like, there's no reason for us
Speaker 1: to invent anything. There's no reason for us to explore,
Speaker 1: no reason at all.
Speaker 2: Well, I was saying what the literacy rate was. I
Speaker 2: am not equating literacy to brain activity. I'm saying, though,
Speaker 2: you're saying they could have spun the education to be
Speaker 2: whatever they want taught in schools, because who would have
Speaker 2: stopped them. The literacy rate was so low the adults
Speaker 2: wouldn't been able to refute it because they couldn't read
Speaker 2: the books their kids are being taught in school to
Speaker 2: tell them one way or another. Either way, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying they were dumb. They were very in tune and
Speaker 2: very smart to the world around them. They were very
Speaker 2: in tune with nature, they were very in tune with
Speaker 2: their bodies. They knew how to get things done. It
Speaker 2: was a different time, but I'm not saying a worse
Speaker 2: time by any means. Education across the board has gotten
Speaker 2: better and has gotten worse in some regards as time
Speaker 2: has gone on.
Speaker 1: It is the Rockefeller school system. Indeed, it's the Rockefeller
Speaker 1: School system. Do you think they're gotten better?
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, I'm saying, like reading, it's gotten better. The
Speaker 3: education and religion has destroyed humanity. It's destroyed it, absolutely,
Speaker 3: And I know this. I know this firsthand, bro from
Speaker 3: from whenever I was in school and now seeing the
Speaker 3: schoolwork that my eleven year old is doing.
Speaker 1: True, it is. It makes no goddamn sense.
Speaker 2: How many genders are there? Get back to sixty four sixty?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's called biology.
Speaker 3: There's actually, and it will continue to get worse until
Speaker 3: it's gone.
Speaker 2: Education will never be what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Truth, there's really any besides your math and your you know, curse,
Speaker 3: your laying cursive whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm the base.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about science and history and social even geography.
Speaker 3: It's a lie. It's a lie. You know you could
Speaker 3: compare geography every ten years. They lie to you every
Speaker 3: ten years. Now Greenland's this big, Now, this one's down here,
Speaker 3: now this that this big. Now, Antarctica is this small
Speaker 3: the fuck out here. It's all lies to confuse you.
Speaker 3: So you go, well, I don't know. I can't chart
Speaker 3: the whole world, so I'll just take their word for it.
Speaker 1: Flat Earth is so huge, bro, because so many things
Speaker 1: go into it. Most people think, oh, well, they just
Speaker 1: think that the Earth is a disk, and so they're
Speaker 1: just idiotic. Well no, because right, but look at the
Speaker 1: things of what the flat earthers have discovered. You know,
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for flat earthers, I would venture to
Speaker 1: say that nobody would be calling out NASA. And like,
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that out.
Speaker 2: Flat earthers are on some shit and I cannot refute
Speaker 2: a lot of the points the flat earthers make. Let
Speaker 2: me say one.
Speaker 3: More thing to you, brother with love. You said earlier
Speaker 3: that it doesn't matter. You still got work right, that
Speaker 3: the Earth being flat doesn't change anything.
Speaker 2: Like I still need to parent my children, I still
Speaker 2: have a relationship with you. Know what I'm saying, it
Speaker 2: doesn't actually change. Let me ask you Let me ask
Speaker 2: you some retort.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you some questions about that to see
Speaker 3: if you still maybe you'll change your mind.
Speaker 2: Okay, Would it matter to.
Speaker 3: You that there's three hundred and fifty continents in the
Speaker 3: world A post to seven.
Speaker 1: And see how many times have I ever no?
Speaker 2: No, no, no? The game is yes or no?
Speaker 1: Okay. Would it matter to me?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: Would it matter to you and your family that there's
Speaker 3: actually three hundred and fifty continents in this world?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd care about that.
Speaker 3: Would it matter to you and your family that your
Speaker 3: your paycheck is going to a fraudulent space agency, see
Speaker 3: when it could be going right back into your pocket?
Speaker 2: It matters to me. But there's no if stopping that
Speaker 2: taxes are gonna happen. Whether I like it or not.
Speaker 2: That's false.
Speaker 3: But I agree that it's it's a it's a far fetch,
Speaker 3: but it's definitely not irrevers is nothing is irrevers not irreversible. Man?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: But would it matter to you that there's free technology
Speaker 3: and free energy and clean water?
Speaker 2: Does that matter to you?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Because you don't have that now, So I hope it
Speaker 3: should matter to you. You don't have clean water.
Speaker 2: The globe versus flatter didn't make dirty water human greedy corruption.
Speaker 3: Then if you think you're on a globe, then you're
Speaker 3: gonna have no mission in life to go explore what
Speaker 3: I just told you. Everything I just told you that
Speaker 3: you agreed would what it would matter.
Speaker 2: You cannot have on a globe the exploration that I
Speaker 2: would seek. And again, you and Jonathan believe that that
Speaker 2: type of exploration is impossible. And that was the other
Speaker 2: question I wanted to bring up with SpaceX and Elon.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a minute, but the type
Speaker 2: of exploration that I would be more interested in. And yes,
Speaker 2: if you were to say that they have found a
Speaker 2: new continent quote unquote new, they've known about it for
Speaker 2: forever and they've lied to us, Well, yeah, why don't
Speaker 2: you go to the news right now? It's just not
Speaker 2: on CNN.
Speaker 3: But there's eighteen thousand press releases a few weeks ago
Speaker 3: that said that Japan found seven thousand islands, and do
Speaker 3: you know about that?
Speaker 2: Well? Were these these tiny islands or were these huge?
Speaker 2: Because I heard about them.
Speaker 3: So I'm still asking you a question, a general question.
Speaker 3: Did you know about that I.
Speaker 2: Heard about Japan? Or I didn't hear about Japan. I
Speaker 2: heard that they found they quote unquote found a new
Speaker 2: chain of islands quote unquote new somewhere in the coast
Speaker 2: of or around the sea of Japan. No, no, no quotes.
Speaker 3: Though it's seven They said seven thousand islands.
Speaker 2: Have been discovered. So I hadn't heard the number, and
Speaker 2: I didn't hear who found it, but I heard somewhere.
Speaker 3: My point is is that if they just discovered seven
Speaker 3: thousand new islands.
Speaker 2: But they've had satellites, have had images of this earth
Speaker 2: this whole time, and they just discovered them, right.
Speaker 3: Geography is a lie. What they're doing is called self disclosure.
Speaker 2: I know you know what that means.
Speaker 3: They're doing self disclosure and revelation and method combined them opinion.
Speaker 3: Because they're getting ready to prepare for this treaty. It's
Speaker 3: going to be over when the Antara Treaty ends. I
Speaker 3: don't think the humanity, and that's my goal is by
Speaker 3: the time it ends that humanity is already on board
Speaker 3: that there could be hiding more land. So they're not
Speaker 3: going to allow that treaty to be resigned to their nation.
Speaker 3: Russia is currently either pulling out or have already pulled
Speaker 3: out of the treaty. So if you're in Russia listening
Speaker 3: to this, I'm sure it's rare. But if you're in
Speaker 3: Russia listening to this podcast right now, you technically legally
Speaker 3: double check though it's either almost done or it's done.
Speaker 3: You technically legally can get in the ship and go
Speaker 3: past the sixtieth Parallel, even though the border there is
Speaker 3: probably owned by a different country. See that's a trap.
Speaker 3: At that point they release its own nation from the treaty.
Speaker 3: But you still can't go there because when you get
Speaker 3: to the sixtieth parallel, where Antarctica begins, where the ice
Speaker 3: shelves are, you're already gonna be picked up on radar
Speaker 3: one thousand miles before that and turned around by force. Anyways,
Speaker 3: So that's why you guys got to watch the next level,
Speaker 3: because in that film, someone is traveling too far south
Speaker 3: and they get stopped by force, and they send a
Speaker 3: drone after him to make sure they left.
Speaker 2: You can't. I don't care if you have.
Speaker 3: One hundred boats, giant ships, one hundred all stacked with people, truths, whatever,
Speaker 3: all in there, they're going to turn you around. You
Speaker 3: can't freely explore past the sixtieth parallel south. You can't
Speaker 3: do it. It doesn't matter who you are, how much
Speaker 3: money you have, you can go to Antarctica. There's a
Speaker 3: little peninsula south to South America which is bigger than Florida.
Speaker 2: I'm just giving you that.
Speaker 3: It's a big, fucking big chunk of land. Okay, so
Speaker 3: that's where they If you spend twenty grand right now,
Speaker 3: you can go to Antarctica about twenty grand, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Which I don't want to do that with you. By
Speaker 2: the way, we need to make a cult to conspiracy
Speaker 2: trip sooner or rather than later.
Speaker 1: You know, it would be fun, but it would.
Speaker 3: You think that the area fifty one is secure. You
Speaker 3: cannot there in every language. You cannot travel past the
Speaker 3: sixtieth parallel. You will be shot, You will be.
Speaker 2: Turned around and jailed by force.
Speaker 3: If you even try to go past the sixty of parallel,
Speaker 3: something really.
Speaker 2: Really bad it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm trying to bring this attention to the masses,
Speaker 3: because can they stop billions of us?
Speaker 2: And the answer is no.
Speaker 3: But as much as a far fetched stepping stone as
Speaker 3: that sounds, I know it's something I can accomplish.
Speaker 2: I know it is because it's an attainable goal. It's
Speaker 2: not impossible.
Speaker 3: Well that's the only way though, to actually have change
Speaker 3: in this world. And even if you think the world's
Speaker 3: a spinning pair, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: If we go over there collectively and see that there
Speaker 3: are three hundred and fifty continents, you can't talk to me.
Speaker 3: You can't talk to me about a sphere anymore.
Speaker 2: You can't do it.
Speaker 3: You have to understand that they took the world we knew,
Speaker 3: put the earth on a flat piece of paper. Okay,
Speaker 3: you've seen the flatter maps and all that stuff. That's
Speaker 3: just that's just what pilots use. I don't know that
Speaker 3: my uncle was a pilot. That's what they use. There's
Speaker 3: no globular structure. Now there's software in the airplanes that
Speaker 3: show you this three D obvious CGI ball of your
Speaker 3: point A to point B. Shortest way to do it
Speaker 3: is a straight line. And even though you're in the
Speaker 3: plane going straight the whole time, we brought spirit levels
Speaker 3: up there. If anything, it's going to degree up, not
Speaker 3: going down a ball. Okay, But the point is that
Speaker 3: whether it be in an airplane or anything else. There's
Speaker 3: hundreds and hundreds of ways to prove that we're not spinning.
Speaker 3: There's hundreds and hundreds of ways to prove that everything
Speaker 3: is level. The horizon out the airplane rises to.
Speaker 2: Your eye level. It wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: There's so many flaws in the globe and what's supposed
Speaker 3: to be happening and what we're supposed to be feeling
Speaker 3: and seeing, and none of it is experienced, none of it.
Speaker 3: We don't experience any of it. None of us do.
Speaker 3: And the only reason that we hold on to the
Speaker 3: ball and we say, well, I'm still in this camp,
Speaker 3: it's because it's a or B ego or you don't
Speaker 3: want to be made fun of. And that's the thing
Speaker 3: I make films to assure you, brother, that once you
Speaker 3: wake up to this there is the people getting made
Speaker 3: fun of are going to be the globers because they're
Speaker 3: going to be in the same category as maskers and jabbers.
Speaker 3: They already are in my world. They already are in
Speaker 3: my world. But I'm giving people breaks on the process.
Speaker 3: It's like the people like yourself, truth seekers. It's like
Speaker 3: you only got that first jab to me, you're talking globe,
Speaker 3: But that's just your first job. Right now, I can
Speaker 3: see it in you that you're not going to get
Speaker 3: the second job, and meaning I see it in you
Speaker 3: that you're not going to keep defending something that you
Speaker 3: know nothing about, and that there's no evidence for not
Speaker 3: a statue that someone told you about. I'm talking about advidence.
Speaker 3: That's not evidence.
Speaker 2: You have no.
Speaker 3: Proof that you're spinning globe, but you defend it like
Speaker 3: it's true. And that's the problem is that once we
Speaker 3: can give up our ego and go, you know what,
Speaker 3: I have no evidence that we're on a ball, that's
Speaker 3: a great starting point because then you can actually look
Speaker 3: at the evidence that we're not spending and that the sun,
Speaker 3: moon of stars are very small and right above our
Speaker 3: heads at all times. That's the only way that seasons
Speaker 3: work in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me the second point I did want
Speaker 2: to bring up, and we got off on some tangents
Speaker 2: on that one, but also stayed on point. I love
Speaker 2: this topic because it's kind of weird. It does that
Speaker 2: you go all over but you're still on on focus.
Speaker 2: It's wild like that, man. But anyway, anyway, so elon
Speaker 2: musk Okay, start in SpaceX, the Falcon nine rocket, which
Speaker 2: is the quote unquote reusable rocket systems and all of this.
Speaker 2: I actually personally know two people that worked on those
Speaker 2: rockets at Stennis Air Force Base in Mississippi. They were
Speaker 2: actually the design engineer and one of the rocket engineers,
Speaker 2: which right themselves. This was the Merlin rockets. So if
Speaker 2: do you believe that these rockets actually are real, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that they can actually make it to space
Speaker 2: or any of that. Do you believe that these are
Speaker 2: actual crafts that are actually being shot up? Do you
Speaker 2: believe these are holograms? What do you believe that my
Speaker 2: people were working on at that base or do you
Speaker 2: believe it was absolute nons since they were getting paid
Speaker 2: to just stare at a computer screen.
Speaker 3: I think that just like the NASA employee that prints
Speaker 3: the cartoons in their magazine, I think that they're just
Speaker 3: innocent bystanders. I think that they also believe in the agenda.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't be working there if they didn't. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, I don't think it's their haunt. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's their fault, but they I know people.
Speaker 3: I know people that said that they worked on satellite
Speaker 3: pieces for NASA, So satellites are real. I said, do
Speaker 3: you know what NASA did with those satellites once they
Speaker 3: got them in their hands, they had tasted them to
Speaker 3: a fucking balloon and they put them up. There were
Speaker 3: you there for that? And they're like, well no, but no,
Speaker 3: I don't think they did that. I'm like, would you
Speaker 3: have known? Well, no, that's not my department. I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's the point. You can make something, You could be
Speaker 3: a part of something and then not know anything else
Speaker 3: after that. That's it, because they do need those parts.
Speaker 2: But this wasn't federal funny. This was Elon Musk with SpaceX.
Speaker 2: So what do you believe these particular people were same thing,
Speaker 2: same thing different. I don't think the US.
Speaker 3: Federal government and NASA have any hand in SpaceX or funding.
Speaker 2: I mean I believe that was the intent. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that they don't have a hand in it, that
Speaker 2: the government and everything. No.
Speaker 3: The reason space says is this is because everyone lost
Speaker 3: face in NA everyone lost faith in NASA. Every NASA
Speaker 3: was getting exposed every fucking day, and their own platforms, Google, YouTube,
Speaker 3: all of them were getting exposed for NASA's fraudulent behavior.
Speaker 3: They pumped up SpaceX quicker than anything they've ever pumped up.
Speaker 3: It was the greatest thing in the world. Who the
Speaker 3: fuck was NASA when SpaceX came out? So they had
Speaker 3: to pump up a new guy, and a new guy
Speaker 3: and a new hero for everything, because well, he's not
Speaker 3: a government entity.
Speaker 2: Why do you think they did it.
Speaker 3: They did it because everyone was half the world was
Speaker 3: waking up, so they needed to make sure that the
Speaker 3: ones that were kind of waking up to flat Earth
Speaker 3: were like, wait, now, hold on, there's a whole other
Speaker 3: company doing it now, and what are they doing. Well,
Speaker 3: they're setting stuff up to test out the firmament. And
Speaker 3: that's the problem that people don't understand is that NASA
Speaker 3: they just put on a light show. As far as
Speaker 3: I know, they have helium balloon type of bouncy houses
Speaker 3: as most of their rockets.
Speaker 2: See Space six is essentially controlled up.
Speaker 3: I don't Oh yeah, for sure, anything Elon Musk is
Speaker 3: doing is controlled out. He's got handlers up the ass.
Speaker 3: He's a big part of this agenda. He's a big player.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. My point was is that a
Speaker 3: lot of these rockets from NASA, from from the sixties
Speaker 3: to today, they are if you you can even look,
Speaker 3: you can even just watch any space shuttle going up.
Speaker 3: It's bouncing around in the wind. It's supposed to be
Speaker 3: a million pounds, and actually when it takes off, it
Speaker 3: goes up and then comes back down again. That's a
Speaker 3: million pounds doing that. What are we talking about? That
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense, but it does if it's just
Speaker 3: a bouncy house, and you see that. When they go
Speaker 3: up in the air, they just kind of hover and
Speaker 3: float and they level out and they're going really fucking slow. Now,
Speaker 3: just like a just something with like a think of
Speaker 3: a giant bouncy house in the sky. And then they
Speaker 3: land in the ocean because they have to launch.
Speaker 2: Them all by where the ocean is. They can't watch
Speaker 2: them in in Maine.
Speaker 3: And they lands in Illinois. That would never happen. They
Speaker 3: have to launch them by the ocean. There's no other
Speaker 3: way to do it. But no, there are some rockets
Speaker 3: that actually do go up in the air and then
Speaker 3: they level out and then they land them in the
Speaker 3: oceans and they go collect them.
Speaker 2: It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3: That's why you see a helicopter surrounding the entire area
Speaker 3: during every launch because nobody can see where they're landing
Speaker 3: them in the ocean.
Speaker 2: No one can be around. It's already scoped out.
Speaker 3: You know how many delays and cancels there are and launches,
Speaker 3: it's because someone spotted that. You can't they can't take
Speaker 3: any risks that someone sought or they got to kill
Speaker 3: them them.
Speaker 2: They did, just have to.
Speaker 3: They have to do it by the ocean to get
Speaker 3: away with it.
Speaker 2: Now. SpaceX is out out thunk NASA.
Speaker 3: SpaceX has hologram technology for some of their rocket launches
Speaker 3: where there's people that go with their own cameras. And
Speaker 3: by the way, you can't go up to the launch.
Speaker 3: You gotta be I think it's ten to twenty miles back. Sure,
Speaker 3: So when you're that far back, if you see an
Speaker 3: eight billion dollar hologram, go in the air and do
Speaker 3: this and then disappear into the sky with no smoke trail.
Speaker 3: Go watch some of SpaceX's launches. There's no smoke trail
Speaker 3: at all. They do a little smoke cgi show on
Speaker 3: the ground, or maybe they have little smoke shows buttons
Speaker 3: on the ground and smoke comes up. But that fucking
Speaker 3: thing going up has a little baby tail of orange
Speaker 3: zero smoke.
Speaker 2: That makes no sense.
Speaker 3: So that Disney's already launched their holograms at their little
Speaker 3: Walt Disney Center where they put on this hologram show
Speaker 3: and they show you. They show you a rocket in
Speaker 3: the middle, and it looks better than that half of
Speaker 3: SpaceX of stuff. Now, the SpaceX stuff that's real that
Speaker 3: goes up. I put some of that in my film
Speaker 3: with me because they I think eli must what they
Speaker 3: wanted to do again with revelation and method and Operation
Speaker 3: Disclosure that we're living in now, this new operation of
Speaker 3: full disclosure, which is happy it's gonna come, so you're
Speaker 3: gonna be a flat Earth or whether you want to
Speaker 3: or not, because we're in this is the dis close
Speaker 3: your time in humanity. But the problem I have is
Speaker 3: that people don't realize what Elon must, the technology he
Speaker 3: has up there, what it's actually doing. Everyone saw that
Speaker 3: tadpole looking thing going across the sky, right.
Speaker 2: All this is new?
Speaker 3: Why didn't NASA do any of that? Why Why have
Speaker 3: we never seen that effect before? What's what's different Elon? Well,
Speaker 3: what he's doing is he's actually surfing above your fucking
Speaker 3: head and you see water dragging like a boat, you know,
Speaker 3: so and I've seen it with my own eyes.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 3: It is definitely water above us. And none of that's
Speaker 3: coming down. It's not gonna rain in five minutes. It's
Speaker 3: gonna take probably a week to come down. So how
Speaker 3: high they're up, But you see the water or it's contained,
Speaker 3: like I think, like an H three hydrogen that is impenetrable,
Speaker 3: just like below.
Speaker 2: You can't get through it no matter who you are.
Speaker 3: But if it is a firmament of water, an ocean
Speaker 3: above us, like your Bible actually says, by the way,
Speaker 3: but if the water's above is real, they're fucking surfing
Speaker 3: on it. And I saw what my own eyes when
Speaker 3: I was pumping gas once in Bely Hills and I
Speaker 3: look up and I go, holy, that was the first
Speaker 3: time in life.
Speaker 2: I go, oh, that's definitely an ocean above.
Speaker 3: Dude, they are They're fucking surfing above me. And everyone's like, wow,
Speaker 3: they're in space. I'm like, you think they're in space.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you think that is up there?
Speaker 3: Something that's like eight thousand miles wide by two thousand
Speaker 3: miles wide, you think you could still see that craft?
Speaker 3: You can't see a jet at cruising altitude.
Speaker 2: Bro, And that's what eight miles right.
Speaker 3: You think you could see something the same size as
Speaker 3: the seven fifty seven. You think you could see that
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty miles away and you could see
Speaker 3: some tadpole coming out of it.
Speaker 2: No, you can't. It's you can't see that with your eyes.
Speaker 2: Period zero. Ask you sputnick back in the day when
Speaker 2: it was making its streaks across the sky and everybody
Speaker 2: in certain times, everybody had certain latitudes, would go outside
Speaker 2: and they could see it across the sky, but it
Speaker 2: was only during certain times. Do you believe that that
Speaker 2: goes back even then? What do you think that was
Speaker 2: at that time? Keep in mind, our aerospace technology was
Speaker 2: not what.
Speaker 3: It was now, same thing as it is now.
Speaker 2: We didn't even have jets at that time. We'll actually
Speaker 2: take it back. We did have turbine engines at that time.
Speaker 3: We did have jets. And again, the technology that we
Speaker 3: have now, they've had.
Speaker 2: For a long time.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so trust me, if if we have it now,
Speaker 3: they had it, then let's put it that way. But no,
Speaker 3: I mean, all they gotta do is B two bomber
Speaker 3: mock it up. Put some LED lights. If you'd think
Speaker 3: led lights didn't exist back then. You've got another thing
Speaker 3: coming to that.
Speaker 2: It did.
Speaker 3: So they had all this technology ready to go, they
Speaker 3: didn't know what it was going to do. These are
Speaker 3: tests on the American people, not even the American the world.
Speaker 2: These are tests.
Speaker 3: All these tests in the forties, fifties, and sixties are
Speaker 3: operations Operation High Jump, Operation Dominique. Why are you sending
Speaker 3: up missiles straight in the air and then it explodes
Speaker 3: against something?
Speaker 2: What was it exploding against? What? They had no idea
Speaker 2: what was above them?
Speaker 3: And the problem is that with this globe theory in general,
Speaker 3: to me, especially when you bring up Greeks and these.
Speaker 2: These guys knew, they knew he had the thing in
Speaker 2: the statue. How did they know? Did they go up
Speaker 2: there with a rocket? No? What they do? How did
Speaker 2: they know the ball? No?
Speaker 3: How did they know generally that it was a ball
Speaker 3: unless you go up there and fucking go, oh, look down,
Speaker 3: it's a ball. And who did that for the first
Speaker 3: time NASA in nineteen sixty nine. Now, the problem with
Speaker 3: NASA in nineteen sixty nine, that was the first time
Speaker 3: any human being went up to see if we're a ball? Okay, right,
Speaker 3: So when they go to the moon the studio. But
Speaker 3: when they go to the moon, you know, they didn't
Speaker 3: even say the word earth in any Apollo mission effort.
Speaker 3: They never even said the word earth because they don't
Speaker 3: want you thinking about it. They don't want you thinking
Speaker 3: about that cartoon behind them. Whatever they were doing, they
Speaker 3: don't want you to think about that. They're not going
Speaker 3: to zoom in on it. They're not going to show
Speaker 3: you earth spinning. They're going to show you a dust
Speaker 3: on the bottom. They're going to show you their golf clubs.
Speaker 3: They're going to show you their hoopti cars driving around.
Speaker 3: They're going to show you whatever the fuck they want.
Speaker 3: They're not going to show you where you live, because
Speaker 3: they're in a studio. They can't.
Speaker 1: The best Stanley Kubrick Kubrick movie ever made.
Speaker 3: Well, that's my point though, is that it's like the
Speaker 3: first time anyone ever saw what we lived on.
Speaker 2: Was a show.
Speaker 3: It was a hoax. What have you got since then?
Speaker 3: What has there been since then to prove where we live?
Speaker 2: Nothing? Now?
Speaker 3: How did Universal Pictures have a globe spinning.
Speaker 2: In nineteen twenty? How'd they do that? Whoa hold on?
Speaker 3: No one's been up there yet that this was nineteen
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty is one of the worst years in humanity.
Speaker 3: A priest named George Lemitree says, oh, we came from
Speaker 3: a big bang.
Speaker 2: That was nineteen twenty.
Speaker 3: Rockefeller started on the Board of Education in nineteen twenty,
Speaker 3: and then now they're saying, oh, well, yeah.
Speaker 2: There's a globe. We live on a globe put in
Speaker 2: the start of every movie.
Speaker 3: But we haven't even pretended to go up there and
Speaker 3: fake it yet, fucking care put it in the beginning
Speaker 3: of every movie. It's been the same thing spinning since
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty. How did you know Africa was that big?
Speaker 3: How did you know Africa was here and America is here?
Speaker 3: You haven't even gone up more than ten thousand.
Speaker 2: Feet, ever, So how do you know any of this?
Speaker 2: You don't. So if unless I see it with my
Speaker 2: own eyes, I can't believe it. No, a's lunch, You
Speaker 2: see it with your own ice.
Speaker 3: You can't pretend to know it's real and brainwash the
Speaker 3: nation since nineteen twenty to nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2: And then here comes gut check time nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 3: We can't just keep doing this, guys, We can't just
Speaker 3: keep doing this about it.
Speaker 2: It's been forty five years.
Speaker 3: We've just been doing this about this impossible sphere we're on.
Speaker 3: We got to do something, fake moon landing, don't say
Speaker 3: the word Earth, don't focus on Earth. Take one photo
Speaker 3: of it, Take a million photos of the studio set,
Speaker 3: release one photo to the world. Make that a universal photo.
Speaker 3: Put on everyone's iPhone and come out. Do everything we can.
Speaker 2: To just wall. You know, we got one picture. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know that's a you know, that's where you live.
Speaker 2: That's all the evidence you have.
Speaker 3: We should be talking about the photos, the real photos
Speaker 3: and videos of Earth from space, but you haven't brought
Speaker 3: it up once because there's none.
Speaker 2: I want the flat Earth community to find, and I
Speaker 2: know there's got to be at least one out there.
Speaker 2: There has to be a retired college physics professor that
Speaker 2: is now a flat Earther that would like to come
Speaker 2: out and say, listen, this is the math and this
Speaker 2: is what they made me teach. Let's talk. There's got
Speaker 2: to be one of these out here. And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that it was silent and he was silenced. Wait
Speaker 2: what and he was silenced? I've never heard of this,
Speaker 2: bro hold on, this is a new revelation. To me,
Speaker 2: Hold on, what are you talking about.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of his name up to I
Speaker 3: could see him what Brian, Brian Mullen is his name,
Speaker 3: Brian Mullen.
Speaker 2: He was a professor or something. He was an everything.
Speaker 3: He had more certificates than anyone I've ever known, and
Speaker 3: he was completely upside down with our theories. And once
Speaker 3: he started doing math and physics on a board, he
Speaker 3: started to blow.
Speaker 2: His own mind.
Speaker 3: And then he started having a YouTube channel and he
Speaker 3: blew up. And now he's disappeared. Since twenty eighteen, no
Speaker 3: one's heard from him, no one's seen him. He was
Speaker 3: my idol during this and he disappeared. He I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, there's threat, there's talks of he was suicided.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't have any evidence in that, and I want
Speaker 3: to put that out there. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: that was the guy you could still go watch Brian Mullen.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's stuff on bit shoot, I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: stuff out there on Brian Mullen.
Speaker 2: Dude, we will be doing a dive on this one.
Speaker 3: Mullin or Muler, Brian Mullen, Mullen, I'm ninety sure Brian Mullen.
Speaker 2: We're gonna dig on this because I want to get
Speaker 2: I know you've seen Professor Dave right, Professor Dave he goes.
Speaker 2: He got into it with David Wyss on a show
Speaker 2: once before. He is this guy who basically, oh.
Speaker 3: The guy with Sean atw I just don't with today
Speaker 3: with the setup. Yeah, that was shot Atwood show too
Speaker 3: with Dave weiss Y.
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: The guy that already.
Speaker 3: Did you see the video last week that when viral
Speaker 3: he got out already he's not a professor. They caught
Speaker 3: him on camera from years ago saying I pay to
Speaker 3: get scripts and then I he's a paid agent, he admitted,
Speaker 3: And he admitted that he pays people because he knows
Speaker 3: nothing on topics and science. He's not a He goes,
Speaker 3: I'm not a professor of anything. He goes, I pay
Speaker 3: people out of his mouth. I pay people for scripts,
Speaker 3: and then I study the scripts and then I go
Speaker 3: do my thing and get my money. So he is
Speaker 3: a paid agent, and he is a shill. He's a
Speaker 3: complete shill. So and I remember a couple of clips
Speaker 3: from that debate, now that you brought it up, all
Speaker 3: he kept.
Speaker 2: Doing was Okay, that's.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. And you know what's funny, We've actually
Speaker 1: had We've had some people come on and you know,
Speaker 1: message us on Instagram or on the podcast or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they'll say, you keep on having all these flat
Speaker 1: earthers on the show, why don't you get a professional
Speaker 1: glober the ranks of civilization. I'm like, that doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense.
Speaker 2: You want me to get a just and to the
Speaker 2: to the people that have messaged, just listen, I know
Speaker 2: where you're, where you're coming from, and I hear you.
Speaker 1: But but they mentioned professor Dave. That's that's who they referend.
Speaker 1: That's my point.
Speaker 2: I want to get a professor, an actual professor, right, Well, okay,
Speaker 2: I would like to get Neil deGrasse Tyson if he
Speaker 2: was to flip to a flat Earth model already denied us.
Speaker 2: I heard about this, yeah, he all.
Speaker 3: I've heard multiple people already set It was already on
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan's website, bro, it was all. The debate was
Speaker 3: already set up and executed Eddie Bravo and Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3: As we know with the beef of flat Earth and
Speaker 3: round Earth for years now, Joe Eddie was getting sick
Speaker 3: of it, and Eddie goes, look, you get your guy,
Speaker 3: I'll get my guy.
Speaker 2: I remember hearing. I never watched the episode of when
Speaker 2: that would happen, but I guess because it never happened.
Speaker 3: Joe Joe, Joe announced on the air he's gonna have
Speaker 3: Eric Debae live on the air skype in, and actually
Speaker 3: Joe says skype in from his little flat Earth wherever
Speaker 3: he is across the flat Earth. So he's making fun
Speaker 3: of it, and he goes, you know, he's got the
Speaker 3: Neil degres Tyson on the show, and it's it's schedule,
Speaker 3: it was on its website. Eric was excited. Eric got
Speaker 3: told right away Neil is declining this. Neil's declining it.
Speaker 2: And then Neil came on.
Speaker 3: Joe's show and Joe brought it up and said, hey,
Speaker 3: you were supposed to go on the air with one
Speaker 3: of these flat earthers. And Neil's like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. I'm no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. And then he tried to spin
Speaker 3: it and say, why don't we just put all the
Speaker 3: flat earthers in a rocket and set them to space.
Speaker 3: And he starts laughing, and even Joe, who is not
Speaker 3: obviously not a flat earther, said yeah, no.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think that that that's what they're trying to
Speaker 3: do here, Like they're trying to destroy you, bro. Like
Speaker 3: they're not looking the they're not acting like it's fake,
Speaker 3: like this is fake, like we're playing, we're joking. None
Speaker 3: of us think, none of us is playing around with
Speaker 3: this topic. And Neil knows that. But Neil's handlers knew
Speaker 3: that his legacy and possibly the Globe would have been
Speaker 3: over with thirty to fifty million people watching that show.
Speaker 3: And Neil degress Tyson would have no punch in that fight.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't even have a fucking elbow, man, he'd have
Speaker 3: nothing in the fight. You can't debate script versus fact,
Speaker 3: you can't. And Neil knows that. Neil's a failed actor.
Speaker 3: Bill Ny the science Guy, was a failed actor. Disney
Speaker 3: had him on a show you could watch the show.
Speaker 3: He was terrible, and they said, look, we think kids
Speaker 3: will like you. Here's our Rockefeller science script. You're gonna
Speaker 3: have your own, you know, earth show, and then his
Speaker 3: career took off. These are actors, not real scientists is.
Speaker 2: Not doctor Bill Night. It's just the science guy. That's
Speaker 2: just a moniker that was thrown on. You realize the
Speaker 2: actor who played Dolph Lungren in the Rocky movie actually
Speaker 2: is like a very accomplished academia. Not to mention, the
Speaker 2: guitarist from Queen is a fucking astrophysicist. Let that one
Speaker 2: fucking marinate. Dude, homeboy is well read and con shred
Speaker 2: You feel me?
Speaker 1: What's up with old Eric Dubey nowadays? Have you heard
Speaker 1: like I haven't heard too much from him lately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he still does his own thing.
Speaker 3: He's you know, he built a huge community there and
Speaker 3: a lot of He's got a lot.
Speaker 2: Of support and love and followers and stuff, so he
Speaker 2: still puts out.
Speaker 3: He's still got a big channel on YouTube, probably his
Speaker 3: tenth channel by now, but he's still doing well. He
Speaker 3: narrated the first film I made Level. He was a
Speaker 3: narrator of that whole film I wrote. I wrote most
Speaker 3: of it for him to read, but that was him
Speaker 3: narrating because he lives all the way in Bangkok and
Speaker 3: it just wasn't something to go film at that point,
Speaker 3: to go away to Bankok. This was when the lockdown started,
Speaker 3: so that was anyways, but the second one, he was
Speaker 3: real tight up in the second one, and I wanted
Speaker 3: everyone in person in the second one and again Bangkok.
Speaker 3: So he hasn't been a part of these last two.
Speaker 3: But I still have great respect for him, and I
Speaker 3: think that he does a lots. So he got judged
Speaker 3: for all the World War Two stuff he was putting
Speaker 3: out in banned for his take on it all and
Speaker 3: who Hitler was and all that. So he got banned
Speaker 3: for all of that, and and there was really no
Speaker 3: looking back after that. Once he got outed as the
Speaker 3: World War Two denier or whatever you want to call that.
Speaker 3: I just feel like you haven't looked into that if
Speaker 3: you're gonna judge him. But at the same time, that's
Speaker 3: not a topic they want at all. So they got
Speaker 3: rid of him from every angle they could. And you know, again,
Speaker 3: he's still doing his thing. But I look at it
Speaker 3: as like, no one's gonna stop me from doing my thing.
Speaker 3: No one's gonna, you know, slow me down. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna wait on anybody. I'm just gonna keep doing me
Speaker 3: and along my way, I will run into different paths
Speaker 3: to keep waking the world up, because that's all I
Speaker 3: can do is how else can I try this, like
Speaker 3: even have a conversation like this with you guys. You
Speaker 3: know I learn from it because then I go, Okay,
Speaker 3: time to debunk this statue, guy, Time to look into
Speaker 3: the reality of these things. Because when I know that
Speaker 3: history is a lie, it's not an opinion. I know
Speaker 3: history has been bullshit to us. Science is bullshit to us.
Speaker 3: All pseudoscience that we're taught as a Santa Claus vibe story,
Speaker 3: but none of our parents told us it wasn't real.
Speaker 3: I am telling you it's not real, and no one
Speaker 3: wants to hear that, the same way you're five year
Speaker 3: old self would not want to hear your mom or
Speaker 3: dad tell you Santa was real. It's the same defense
Speaker 3: mechanism for most of society. It's like, fuck off, you
Speaker 3: don't know more than me, you're not smarter than me.
Speaker 3: Plus you are the outcast. Universally people are on my side. Well,
Speaker 3: nowadays we should know that doesn't make a case anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm a.
Speaker 3: Universally I'm on your side, man, are good it because
Speaker 3: universally this is what.
Speaker 2: We accept Universally. I'm on you know, fuck the universally.
Speaker 3: No no, No, we live in a world now and we're
Speaker 3: in a spiritual war and an information war. There's no
Speaker 3: way that you can think that the universal fact of
Speaker 3: anything is the real one.
Speaker 2: Why this why you know, why? Why wouldn't they lie
Speaker 2: about it? If if us three were the rulers of
Speaker 2: the world, if we.
Speaker 3: Survived the reset and we became the kings, okay, and
Speaker 3: we said, dude, we can do whatever we want. We
Speaker 3: could burn all the stuff down, we can keep some
Speaker 3: of it, just don't tell.
Speaker 2: Them about it. And then what about education? What are
Speaker 2: we going to say?
Speaker 3: Well, we can't have people think and they're the center
Speaker 3: of the creation. We can't have people thinking that manifesting
Speaker 3: is a little star up there that's like probably one
Speaker 3: hundred miles away and tiny. We can't have anyone think
Speaker 3: the real style. We can't have anyone know this stuff.
Speaker 3: So let's build a model that basically, what what does
Speaker 3: humanity know of at that moment in time with the
Speaker 3: seven continents we still know about. So it's very simple
Speaker 3: to say, wrap that into a ball and throw it
Speaker 3: in the air, and that's it. You You just wiped
Speaker 3: your hands of any expiration. You wipe your hands of
Speaker 3: any child going, I want to explore when I get older,
Speaker 3: think about Truman show.
Speaker 1: Show to be a story like migellan. Oh sorry, they've
Speaker 1: already done it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, there's nothing no, she said, sorry, there's nothing
Speaker 3: left to explore. And that's exactly where they got most
Speaker 3: of society. You don't never hear any child period think
Speaker 3: that way anymore. They've been conditioned to never think that way.
Speaker 3: Maybe we did as kids, but probably not too. I
Speaker 3: want to explore. I want to be like the Magellan.
Speaker 3: I want to you know, I want to go find news. Well,
Speaker 3: they just found seven thousand new islands. Dam we could
Speaker 3: have found them too, but they were We were told
Speaker 3: there's nothing left to explore.
Speaker 2: So again, soft disclosures.
Speaker 3: You're gonna hear another story of maybe a new continent
Speaker 3: has been discovered.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. It shouldn't go over Glover's heads,
Speaker 2: but it does.
Speaker 3: The globals are like, oh cool, new imagine tomorrow, new
Speaker 3: continent's found.
Speaker 2: Dude, No one's going to be talking about it like
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 3: Like you think that they realistically we should be. We
Speaker 3: should all be talking about seven thousand new islands? Are
Speaker 3: you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Seven?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Seven New Islands is still pretty cool. Holy shit, how
Speaker 3: did they not find these seven islands? So wait, did
Speaker 3: you say seven thousand islands have never been discovered yet?
Speaker 3: What are they really telling us in that statement, and
Speaker 3: what they're really responding to with that statement is.
Speaker 2: That nobody fucking cares.
Speaker 3: So that's the issue at hand, is that no one's
Speaker 3: talking about it. No one cares because if it's attached
Speaker 3: to a heliocentric model, it doesn't make sense. Like you said, well,
Speaker 3: satellite could have picked Yeah, none of it would make
Speaker 3: sense if you live on a ball with satellites, millions
Speaker 3: of satellites orbiting somehow ten can no propulsion system.
Speaker 1: Just going.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm looking at it from a bad perspective here,
Speaker 2: But on those seven thousand islands, if there's not anybody
Speaker 2: on that island that's trying to kill me, and there's
Speaker 2: nothing on that island that I could use there or
Speaker 2: that I can't grow here, if there's some sort of
Speaker 2: special thing that only grows there that could save humanity,
Speaker 2: all right, you got my attention. If they just grow
Speaker 2: papayas on this island and there's just an indigenous group there,
Speaker 2: that's just another group. I'm being honest, I kind of
Speaker 2: don't care that they found those islands.
Speaker 3: It is accepting whatever story they're gonna tell us about
Speaker 3: those islands soon, and whatever story they're telling us is
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 2: How about we just go I dig it. I'm all
Speaker 2: about that, bro.
Speaker 3: We just go instead and again though, but with again,
Speaker 3: you didn't see the next level. So then the next level.
Speaker 3: I put a lot of the North Pole stuff there.
Speaker 3: There's continents in the North four continents in the North
Speaker 3: Pole from the sixteen hundred maps charted all the way
Speaker 3: through the early nineteen hundreds maps, actually mid nineteen hundred
Speaker 3: maps have four land masses in the North and they
Speaker 3: took they took them all off and said, hey, it's
Speaker 3: just an ice shelf there. And then they started promoting
Speaker 3: documentaries on A and E and Discovery about guys, I'm
Speaker 3: at the North Pole.
Speaker 2: I'm freezing. Oh I'm gonna die.
Speaker 3: How they get back? They got back? Okay, I didn't
Speaker 3: hear they died. So they paint this picture of you
Speaker 3: never want to go there. They then they they combined
Speaker 3: it all with Santa.
Speaker 2: Claus North Pole.
Speaker 3: Santa Claus, you say north Pole, Most people respond, what's
Speaker 3: the first thing that comes to your head, North Pole,
Speaker 3: Santa Claus r.
Speaker 2: They gotcha.
Speaker 3: There's four continents in the north. They also guard those continents.
Speaker 3: And to be honest, that should be somewhere where we go,
Speaker 3: even before we go to the outer lands in the
Speaker 3: south is because that apparently to all scriptures, all ancient texts,
Speaker 3: all ancient people have said that is where the key
Speaker 3: to life is.
Speaker 2: Come pass.
Speaker 3: When you think of a compass, come pass, whatever you
Speaker 3: ever want to say it, it's all pointing to the north.
Speaker 2: There's a force there. What's there? What is there?
Speaker 3: What if there's a black sun in the middle of
Speaker 3: the world, what that's that's projecting our sun? Mood and stars,
Speaker 3: frequencies or who knows? We can't go that same thing
Speaker 3: as the south. All you talk about more land, they
Speaker 3: restrict me.
Speaker 2: Fuck off.
Speaker 3: I would have went last year. What do you mean, hey,
Speaker 3: go to the north? Either had looked into it.
Speaker 2: You can't go. Well, I'll tell you this much, bro.
Speaker 2: I loved this movie, this documentary. I want to say
Speaker 2: thank you because I feel like that that denigrates it.
Speaker 2: This documentary that you produced is fucking phenomenal and I
Speaker 2: cannot wait to go back and watch your number two
Speaker 2: and number one back to back.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah dude, this was a lot of fun. I'd want
Speaker 1: to say, I appreciate all the work that you're doing
Speaker 1: in your documentaries and spreading the word and and helping people,
Speaker 1: as we say, open up their third eye all the way, bro,
Speaker 1: you getting after it, like all all the way you're doing,
Speaker 1: you're doing the right shit, man, So I just want
Speaker 1: to say thank you for that. If you want to
Speaker 1: let all the all the listeners, all the cult members
Speaker 1: know where they can find you, where they can find
Speaker 1: the documentaries, go right ahead, and.
Speaker 2: Before I do that.
Speaker 3: A cult means hidden knowledge, so nothing wrong with the cult.
Speaker 2: Okay. But if you want to.
Speaker 3: Find me a Hilbert Productions dot com, HIBB E L
Speaker 3: E R Productions dot com. If you just want to
Speaker 3: watch the film Level with Me, go to level with
Speaker 3: mefilm dot com. There's four ways to watch there. And
Speaker 3: then if you don't want to support me, that's completely fine.
Speaker 3: May twenty second, the standard definition version of Level with
Speaker 3: Me will be across all major free platforms YouTube, Rumble, Bitch, Shoot, Odyssey,
Speaker 3: you name it.
Speaker 2: So that'll be released for the masses.
Speaker 3: So the damage can start and we can take our
Speaker 3: world back, because my goal in this film is to
Speaker 3: get copycats. I don't want astronauts even having a voice
Speaker 3: to lie to us anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't want this.
Speaker 3: I want everyone to watch this film, whether you agree
Speaker 3: with me or not to go. We need to hold
Speaker 3: these people accountable. No one asked questions like this, no
Speaker 3: one discussed this with them, and that's why they're not
Speaker 3: prepared to respond, because they're told in their little fucking,
Speaker 3: you know, controlled world by their handlers and their witness
Speaker 3: protection programs and everything else they're part of, and their
Speaker 3: secrecies and their free Masonry oaths. All all these astronauts
Speaker 3: are Masons, admittedly Masons. So if all of them are
Speaker 3: exposed and questioned by the public, they vanished, They're gone.
Speaker 3: They won't let them do anymore speaks, they won't let
Speaker 3: them do any more tours, they won't let them talk
Speaker 3: to the public because they're gonna be afraid. Like Bill
Speaker 3: Gates is afraid to do public events now in Fauci
Speaker 3: because he knows someone in the crowds are gonna call
Speaker 3: him out. No matter what, someone in the crowd's going
Speaker 3: to call you out.
Speaker 2: We're in a war.
Speaker 3: We're going to show up now. Oh, Bill Gates is
Speaker 3: down the street. You think I'm not going to fucking
Speaker 3: show up. I don't care what he's doing. I'm coming.
Speaker 3: I'm bringing King bab I'm bringing Joe Bauman with me.
Speaker 3: I got people to come. We got shit to do.
Speaker 3: We got a war here. So my goal is to
Speaker 3: make sure that no, none of these astronauts, none of
Speaker 3: these fucking Mason liars are are are able to keep
Speaker 3: lying to us anymore, because if they're hit with questions,
Speaker 3: they're done that. Then their promotion goes down, their marketing
Speaker 3: goes down, their stock goes down.
Speaker 2: Their ratings are already going down.
Speaker 3: You look at NASA's ratings since they started to be
Speaker 3: exposed in twenty fifteen, they're.
Speaker 2: Going down tremendously.
Speaker 3: I get more views on my YouTube channel than anything
Speaker 3: NASA's ever even done.
Speaker 2: Dude, Even globers agreed that we are throwing money into
Speaker 2: a NASA fire, Even people that fully believe that all
Speaker 2: of the space, all the things, all the stuff, we
Speaker 2: all unanimously agree that NASA does not need a fraction
Speaker 2: of the money they're getting every year. So agreed on
Speaker 2: that front. I have a challenge for you, brother, what's up?
Speaker 3: Man, find NASA filming in space doing a three to
Speaker 3: sixty with.
Speaker 2: Their phone camera? Oh? Yeah't gonna find that? Why not?
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't exist, big dog, That footage does not exist.
Speaker 3: Okay, your audience go find that once you Once you
Speaker 3: know that you can't find any video ever of them
Speaker 3: doing a three sixty, then you'll know about the fourth
Speaker 3: wall rule and studio. Then you understand what the fourth
Speaker 3: wall means to big agendas like this.
Speaker 2: Oh, they have to use a fourth wall. I was
Speaker 2: screaming at the TV whenever. What was that woman that
Speaker 2: just said and you know it's real because it looks
Speaker 2: so fake? She said that same thing a woman on
Speaker 2: the door.
Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about the astronaut that said that was
Speaker 3: showing the video of the ISS.
Speaker 2: Aside from her statement that she said over and over
Speaker 2: and over again, which is like, all right, you've beaten
Speaker 2: that dead horse into the fucking grave. But it was really,
Speaker 2: really real, bro, the fucking angle that that camera was at.
Speaker 1: My only thing I'm screaming.
Speaker 2: At the TV was how did you get that fucking
Speaker 2: camera angle at that satellite? Who got that shot?
Speaker 1: I want to meet that.
Speaker 2: Cameraman because that doesn't make sense to me either, you
Speaker 2: know what, fuck that cameraman.
Speaker 3: I want to meet the cameraman that when the when
Speaker 3: the what's it called lunar module exited the moon with
Speaker 3: their little firework sparklers on the bottom.
Speaker 2: They just it just went. I want to meet the.
Speaker 3: Caraman that panned up right and followed it, like, did
Speaker 3: he get home? I just want to know, for his
Speaker 3: family's sake if he got home.
Speaker 2: That's and not to mention that third dude that allegedly
Speaker 2: went to the moon that actually didn't go to the moon,
Speaker 2: He just went around it a couple times. Well, these
Speaker 2: two dudes became legends. He's just like the extra third wheel,
Speaker 2: the bastard of history, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Well, he actually the first man to walk in the
Speaker 3: Moon was not Neil Armstrong.
Speaker 2: It was the cameraman that's set up first.
Speaker 3: Right, because he even moved the camera when Neil came out.
Speaker 2: It's like wait.
Speaker 3: And then they tried to say now that the technology
Speaker 3: in sixty nine they had something automatically moving it around. Right.
Speaker 2: I forgot they had remote controls for TVs back then too.
Speaker 1: Right, that's the whole four What.
Speaker 3: Else can they call the President. When I can't even
Speaker 3: make a phone call my own condo because of reception,
Speaker 3: how else can a guy out of Moon five hundred
Speaker 3: thousand miles away call a landline phone and talk to Nixon?
Speaker 3: I just want to know how so this way, like
Speaker 3: we can replicate that now, because man, it seems like
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty nine was like the best technology.
Speaker 2: Ever, crazy alien Vietnam War technology. Bruh, I'm telling.
Speaker 1: You, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, man, is that the.
Speaker 3: Once people get to realizing that, well, I always advise.
Speaker 2: This, don't research flat Earth.
Speaker 3: Just just research the globe, you know, prove the globe
Speaker 3: to yourself and go, how can I unbiasedly, no conspiracy mind,
Speaker 3: subconscious involved, How can I prove that I live on
Speaker 3: this pair and that we're spinning, and that the sun's
Speaker 3: not spinning, we're going around the sun?
Speaker 2: Watch?
Speaker 3: I always say, just watch some time lapses of the sunset,
Speaker 3: and when you understand the tropic of cancer in the
Speaker 3: center of the pond and the tropic of Capricorn on
Speaker 3: the outskirts, depending on which tropic the sun is going around,
Speaker 3: the sunset's going to look different each season. So once
Speaker 3: you understand that there are parts of the world and
Speaker 3: seasons that it's dry temperatures, preferably deserts and forests. And
Speaker 3: when you see a sunset, and especially on a wide
Speaker 3: angle camera time lapse, the sun, yes, it does get
Speaker 3: smaller as it goes across the Earth, and it takes.
Speaker 2: The light with it.
Speaker 3: If the if four clouds, whether that be the sun
Speaker 3: or a full moon. If you got four clouds around
Speaker 3: that body of light, all glowing and lit up, but
Speaker 3: the clouds right there and the clouds over there are.
Speaker 2: Black as shit, you got a problem with your model.
Speaker 2: I thought that was a.
Speaker 3: Giant source of light hitting a tiny half half of
Speaker 3: the tiny bebe called Earth. Well number one, all the
Speaker 3: sunrays do this, the sunrays would come the sunrays.
Speaker 2: Would have to come straight down, straight down.
Speaker 3: If we're a bebe, they don't they go like this
Speaker 3: because the source of the light is right fucking there.
Speaker 3: That's the top where you see the sun is where
Speaker 3: it is. If I told you, hey, see the airplane
Speaker 3: in the sky, it's seven miles up, you could see
Speaker 3: it with your eyes, right, I see it, dude, that's
Speaker 3: ninety three million miles away. What do you mean I
Speaker 3: could see it? No, But it's ninety three mini miles away.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, you call me ludicrous, but when I see
Speaker 3: that light in the sky, why is it? Why are
Speaker 3: you sweating balls at noon?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 3: Why are you sweating balls at noon? It's ninety three
Speaker 3: million miles away. It's also ninety three million miles away.
Speaker 3: When it's six o'clock and you're not sweating, you should
Speaker 3: still be sweating. Bro, it's ninety three million miles away.
Speaker 3: And when a few degrees in the sky and you're
Speaker 3: not sweating anymore, it's because it's a local heat lamp
Speaker 3: above your fucking head. As the heat lamp. If I
Speaker 3: held the heat lamp above your head in the winter,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, dude, Hitler, thanks bro, fuck let me
Speaker 3: melt my beer.
Speaker 2: Let me Oh god, it was freezing.
Speaker 3: But but you are a mile down, not by my
Speaker 3: local heat lamp.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be like, I see the sun. That's our winter.
Speaker 2: By the way, we still see the sun. I see
Speaker 2: the sun.
Speaker 3: But man, I I just I can't even get a tan, bro,
Speaker 3: this is bullshit. Oh six months later, you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: thank god, oh oh man, this warmth. It's it's a
Speaker 3: local light, and I don't get the heliocentric model for
Speaker 3: so many issues. There's so many points that's like, did
Speaker 3: you know I'll I'll leave you with this. Did you
Speaker 3: know that that's for the same thing I just said?
Speaker 2: Right? So on the globe model in the summer, this is.
Speaker 3: I know you're not gonna believe me, but when you
Speaker 3: look at up you're going to be like, what the
Speaker 3: fuck would they.
Speaker 2: Say this for?
Speaker 3: I'm listening, bro, in the summer, in our summer, remember
Speaker 3: run the globe now, yeah, in the summer, the sun
Speaker 3: when we're sweating balls, the sun is I think I
Speaker 3: could be wrong, but I believe this is three million
Speaker 3: miles farther one to three million miles farther away from us.
Speaker 2: When the northern hemisphere is during summer. You're saying that
Speaker 2: the sun is actually further away from the Earth.
Speaker 3: Millions of miles farther away in our summer and in
Speaker 3: our winter the sun is much much closer to us.
Speaker 2: Again, they that's how they teach us things. The opposite.
Speaker 3: Everything is the opposite. Everything actually makes no sense to
Speaker 3: make sense because you go, well, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: I'll just believe them.
Speaker 2: You can't challenge it because you're, well, some guy in
Speaker 2: a lab. CO did the math.
Speaker 3: I don't, no, that's what it is, okay, So then
Speaker 3: why can I get a tan when the sun is
Speaker 3: on the horizon at seven am in the summertime in La,
Speaker 3: I can get a tan when the sun barely comes
Speaker 3: around and peaks his head in perspective, it's gonna come up.
Speaker 3: Why can I get a tan when at seven am,
Speaker 3: when I can just see the beginning of the sun.
Speaker 3: You can stare at that sun all day. It's very
Speaker 3: good for you if you're grounding, but don't.
Speaker 2: Do it at noon.
Speaker 3: But the thing is that when that sun's coming, I
Speaker 3: literally can get ten. I starts, Oh fucking man, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a rough day today. But in the end
Speaker 3: that's supposed to be one or three. I forgot the
Speaker 3: number one or three.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Call it a million, a million miles farther than the
Speaker 3: same day six months before.
Speaker 2: When I'm shivering and the sun is.
Speaker 3: At the horizon, I feel no heat whatsoever, But it's
Speaker 3: a million or three million miles closer to.
Speaker 2: Me that same day. None of it makes sense. Seasons
Speaker 2: don't make sense.
Speaker 3: Nothing makes sense. But they programmed to think, well, the
Speaker 3: sun sets, so that means it went down. That doesn't
Speaker 3: make any sense. I can be on camera, you could
Speaker 3: just be standing on standing in front of me with
Speaker 3: your cam quarder, and I can be on a flat field.
Speaker 3: You could even measure it with a fucking leveler and
Speaker 3: a laser all you want.
Speaker 2: Let's call it Kansas for the sake of the argument.
Speaker 3: Okay, a flat ten mile radius we can both agree.
Speaker 2: We can all three of us can agree.
Speaker 3: A ten mile flat, exact flat radius exists on Earth. Okay,
Speaker 3: So if I'm walking away from your camera for ten miles,
Speaker 3: you don't think that my feet will disappear first, and
Speaker 3: then my legs, and then my torso and then my head.
Speaker 2: In theory, that is how it should work. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: how it works. That's how everything works. Is perspective.
Speaker 3: You know damn well that I am straight flat across
Speaker 3: from you on that piece of land. But your cam
Speaker 3: quarder says otherwise, same thing as the boat bottom up,
Speaker 3: same thing as the sun bottom up.
Speaker 2: It sets.
Speaker 3: Our perspective will not allow you to keep seeing it.
Speaker 3: Not only that, but we're not superman, guys. We can't
Speaker 3: see Look at your weather app right now. The visibility
Speaker 3: will tell you how far they're telling you. Your human
Speaker 3: eyes can see today visible mile eleven miles today, they're
Speaker 3: telling you, that's as far as.
Speaker 2: You can see.
Speaker 3: You're looking through clouds, deck of opacity, weather conditions, buildings,
Speaker 3: who knows what hell is here? Well, why can't I
Speaker 3: see China from Florida? You can't see the streets sign
Speaker 3: three blocks down on a foggy day. Get the fuck
Speaker 3: out of here. You're gonna see China from Florida where
Speaker 3: human beings. We're not superman. We can't see that far.
Speaker 3: And they knew that they hijacked that, they knew human
Speaker 3: beings eyes can't see that far. Perfect say it went
Speaker 3: around the curve.
Speaker 2: It's really simple. Here's an experiment that we can do,
Speaker 2: and we do actually have the technology to do this.
Speaker 2: Fuck the ocean and fuck the ships. All right, let's
Speaker 2: go to your place over in Arizona. Right, Let's go
Speaker 2: to the desert, to the fucking salt flats or someplace.
Speaker 2: I'm talking miles and miles of absolutely Olybia has the
Speaker 2: greatest salt flats on Earth. Look into those.
Speaker 3: You can see the one setting for one hundred miles straight.
Speaker 3: You could see one hundred miles by I think eighty.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's what I want to do.
Speaker 2: Let's get two stands, okay, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: have any kind of deviation for hills or nothing like that.
Speaker 2: I want them to be the exact same from sea level.
Speaker 2: Elevation could be ten feet off sea level, could be
Speaker 2: fifteen we'll see when they get there. Right, Let's use
Speaker 2: all of our technology to get these two lasers to
Speaker 2: absolutely be dead nuts locked onto each other at twenty
Speaker 2: miles away. By there way, no way they should be
Speaker 2: able to happen on a globe, by the way. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we'll let me.
Speaker 3: Let me, let me make it even more simpler, because
Speaker 3: I don't want your audience to think that you need
Speaker 3: a twenty mile test to prove that, you need a
Speaker 3: three mile test to prove that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I'm saying, let's go for it. If we're
Speaker 2: gonna if we're gonna make the claim, let's make it
Speaker 2: so just being realistic.
Speaker 3: Just saw your audience understands something at a six foot
Speaker 3: tall man at the edge of the sand called the beach.
Speaker 3: Got a six foot tall man standing at the edge
Speaker 3: of calm water or the ocean water as a matter
Speaker 3: of his calm or not, according to the heliocentric model. Again,
Speaker 3: this is not according to conspiracies dot com. This is
Speaker 3: a gutoric according to Rockefeller Education, and every scientist that
Speaker 3: you that you might defend will tell you that a
Speaker 3: six foot tall man on a sphere that's a radius
Speaker 3: of twenty four thousand miles can only see three miles
Speaker 3: across the horizon. Because this is six foot drop of curvature.
Speaker 3: It's eight inches eight inches per mile squared. You have
Speaker 3: to square it. You can't go eight inches per mile. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: that's awful math. That is that is in the globe
Speaker 3: favor and it's still it still is bullshit. You can
Speaker 3: still see farther, but it's eight inches per mile square.
Speaker 3: Because you're a sphere, every direction has to curve at
Speaker 3: the same time, so you have to square the mile.
Speaker 2: So if you go ten miles, I believe ten miles is.
Speaker 3: Sixty feet of curvature, six hundred feet of curvature, I
Speaker 3: could be around I think six hundred feet of curvature.
Speaker 2: One hundred miles is six thousand feet of curvature.
Speaker 3: So my point is, on that same scale of assault flat,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't see that laser three miles, let alone four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
Speaker 3: up to twenty like your test twenty.
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is if it gets even.
Speaker 3: To five miles, your globe is wrong. If it gets
Speaker 3: to ten miles, we have big problems. We've already done
Speaker 3: these tests. Brother, We've passed fifteen miles, we've passed twenty.
Speaker 3: We have zoomed in on things from an airplane again,
Speaker 3: and my grant is thirty thousand.
Speaker 2: Feet in the air.
Speaker 3: I'll give you that based off of your globular math, you.
Speaker 2: Still should be able to see.
Speaker 3: I think it was like I believe the math was
Speaker 3: like thirty miles down the sphere, being thirty only thirty
Speaker 3: thousand feet high, you could see thirty extra miles basically
Speaker 3: with that math. I forgot the exact math, but it's
Speaker 3: around there. Well, then, why can we see mountain ranges
Speaker 3: eight hundred and seventy two miles away? Why can we
Speaker 3: zoom in ont of mountain ranges that are five hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty miles away? Just being thirty thousand feet in
Speaker 3: the air makes no sense. It's because we're on a
Speaker 3: flat plane.
Speaker 2: But when you.
Speaker 3: Land, now your perspective, your whole dome of vision. It's
Speaker 3: like a dome of vision. Our eyes are spheres too,
Speaker 3: so it's like we have natural fish eye lenses to
Speaker 3: begin with our eyeballs. But the perspective and the vanishing
Speaker 3: point issue with our eyes is that everything meets in
Speaker 3: that center and disappears. So we are programmed to think
Speaker 3: that it went down curvature when in reality, if me
Speaker 3: and you of us, we were at the beach right
Speaker 3: now and here in Cali, I could tell you, bro
Speaker 3: how much money you got put it in. I wouldn't take
Speaker 3: your money because I know I'm taking it from the test,
Speaker 3: but just for fun, how much money you want to
Speaker 3: put down? That when you tell me with your own eyes,
Speaker 3: when you look at the horizon, you go, yep, that
Speaker 3: boat's down the curve. Now I can't see it. You
Speaker 3: can tell the bottom wind and then the top of
Speaker 3: the boat and now it's.
Speaker 2: Down the ball right.
Speaker 3: Well, that horizon is three and a half four miles
Speaker 3: at the most away from our eyes, So you are
Speaker 3: telling me that the curvature starts at three to four miles.
Speaker 2: That's why the boat went down.
Speaker 3: But yet, if I go up on top of a building,
Speaker 3: I'll see the whole boat, and then your response would be, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: now you can look down the ball and see the boat.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's stay on ground fucking level.
Speaker 3: Let's not go up. Now, let's stay on ground level.
Speaker 3: And I'll wait an extra hour of it going as
Speaker 3: long as it's going away from us, I will wait
Speaker 3: an extra hour and say you're like, dude, go ahead
Speaker 3: do your test now, it's cool man, you got time. Bro?
Speaker 2: Well, no, man, I like it should be fair. Bro.
Speaker 2: Just zoom in, zoom in with your camera and bring
Speaker 2: this boat back right. Oh man, let's give it another hour. Bro,
Speaker 2: I'm not even worried about your fucking shit.
Speaker 3: Bro. Like, it's cool, Like, don't worry about it. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna bring it back in. And you get a Nicon
Speaker 3: P one with a one to twenty x optical and
Speaker 3: that closed horizon that our eyes can't physically see anymore,
Speaker 3: everything in that vanishing point is gone.
Speaker 2: No matter who you are, you can't see that. Ever.
Speaker 3: Your eyes won't let it happen. But our optics have
Speaker 3: outgrown their lies and their agenda. We can zoom in
Speaker 3: and then it opens it back up again, and everything
Speaker 3: in that section that your physical eye can't see is
Speaker 3: now clear as day. You get to see the ship again,
Speaker 3: you get to see the people's heads again, and you
Speaker 3: get to see a new horizon behind it that's also
Speaker 3: horizontal and flat horizon, horizontal, straight lines.
Speaker 2: It's all level.
Speaker 3: So once you understand perspective and the vanishing point, then
Speaker 3: you can decipher. Okay, so that's why the sun sets,
Speaker 3: That's why the boat's set, That's why everything sets from
Speaker 3: the bottom.
Speaker 2: Up because of perspective.
Speaker 3: Just like I would walk away from your camera, what
Speaker 3: would go first? My head, my feet, my whole body,
Speaker 3: now my feet and my legs.
Speaker 2: We've done these tests. Perspective is real.
Speaker 3: Science proves that, and no, you can't see and again
Speaker 3: we're not. We don't have a giant sun above a
Speaker 3: flat earth. Guy's that's another construct that they have tried
Speaker 3: to program people with. When I ask people in the streets,
Speaker 3: what if you heard the flat earth, they will think
Speaker 3: of a pancake and space where a giant sun still
Speaker 3: ninety three million mile away sun or this giant sun
Speaker 3: above Earth.
Speaker 2: Well, we've seen this on the whole time.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, but you're you're saying something you don't
Speaker 3: know what you're saying. None of us have ever said
Speaker 3: that it's a small local light. That's why it takes
Speaker 3: its light with it. That's why the clouds are on.
Speaker 3: Look at the next time you see a full moon, brother,
Speaker 3: look out one tonight.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, go look, that's almost a
Speaker 2: full moon. Should say it was.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to have to be full, as long
Speaker 3: as it's more than eighty percent. Go look outside right tonight.
Speaker 3: There is no chance in hell that any cloud behind
Speaker 3: you is lit. All the clouds around the moon will
Speaker 3: be bright. Looks like a little flashlight, right, and it's
Speaker 3: shining only on four clouds. But if that flashlight that
Speaker 3: I believe is also kind of like a flashlight, it's
Speaker 3: a local light just right there, it's right above you.
Speaker 3: That's why you see a sun spot in the moon
Speaker 3: spot and a plane on the ocean. You're like, why
Speaker 3: is there a big giant circle on the ocean, that
Speaker 3: entire ocean. If that thing was ninety three million miles
Speaker 3: away on a little BB, then half that beb would
Speaker 3: be evenly distributed with light half the BB, the entire
Speaker 3: ocean would be and all the clouds would be evenly distributed.
Speaker 2: With light until it's set.
Speaker 3: Okay, there wouldn't just be four clouds lit, and then
Speaker 3: a local hot spot on the ocean right about the sun.
Speaker 3: Right here, four clouds are here there in sunset. They're
Speaker 3: glowing as shit, they're glowing the fuck. They're just glowing
Speaker 3: from this local light. And then right on the ocean
Speaker 3: is a sun spot following it, and all the clouds
Speaker 3: are following, all the lidded glowy clouds with the moon too,
Speaker 3: are following until it sets out of your perspective. But again,
Speaker 3: the entire, the entire structure of this helocentric model people
Speaker 3: don't grasp is that that light in the sky is
Speaker 3: one hundred million miles away shining on our little earth. Well,
Speaker 3: that every it would be a sunset of darkness. Man,
Speaker 3: if you really look at the helocentric model, as soon
Speaker 3: as it's set, it'd be black.
Speaker 2: But that's not how it works.
Speaker 3: The sun takes its light with it and if fades,
Speaker 3: you see these, you see the glow in the distance.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's still there, but you don't
Speaker 3: see it anymore, but the light is bringing it with
Speaker 3: We've restructured these tests here on Earth. We have taken
Speaker 3: our artificial suns and walked away on camera. The same
Speaker 3: thing happens as we see. It's the same exact thing.
Speaker 3: But when you look at a sunset from NASA or
Speaker 3: a globe model, we never see that in real life.
Speaker 3: We don't see that. Even when NASA shows the sunset,
Speaker 3: guys from space, you see the sun and then the
Speaker 3: Earth is black. It's instant. It's like zip. It's just
Speaker 3: night to day or day to night instantly, which is
Speaker 3: exactly what it should be if we lived on a globe.
Speaker 3: And that has never been seen in human history. And
Speaker 3: you can't fake that, I dude. All you gotta do
Speaker 3: is just look at some time. Lap sunsets have nothing
Speaker 3: to do with flat earth. Go on stock videos or something.
Speaker 3: Just YouTube, just flatter and not sorry, not flat earth.
Speaker 3: Don't type in flat earth on YouTube. You'll be right
Speaker 3: down a really bad mainstream rabbit hole. But I'm telling
Speaker 3: you right now, man, there's thing that you can do
Speaker 3: yourself and test yourself. And until you do, it's just
Speaker 3: the belief.
Speaker 2: Oh I believe.
Speaker 3: Hibbler that you could see the ship. I believe him,
Speaker 3: you know, why would he lie? I believe that he
Speaker 3: could prove these sunsets with clouds and the way the
Speaker 3: light brings its light with it instead of all the
Speaker 3: clouds should be lit up till the sunset. But that's
Speaker 3: not how it is. That's not how the moon's doing it.
Speaker 3: Right now, they're right above you. They're the same size.
Speaker 3: What a coincidence that they're the same size and the sky.
Speaker 3: But you were told that this one is exactly the
Speaker 3: amount of math that came up with to.
Speaker 2: Make it exactly the same size. It's bigger and.
Speaker 3: Smaller, and then the eclipse, the shadow somehow is smaller
Speaker 3: than half of the Earth. Explain that one. How is
Speaker 3: an eclipse shadow only over like one city?
Speaker 2: Well, two local lights. Does that make sense? Because that
Speaker 2: makes sense to me.
Speaker 3: If you have two local lights, only the city right
Speaker 3: below you is going to see the shadow, not anyone
Speaker 3: over there. But if here's a giant ball in space
Speaker 3: and another giant ball in space, somehow they get in
Speaker 3: front of one another in a beehive situation, that wouldn't
Speaker 3: even happen. Maybe once in our lifetime would they match up.
Speaker 3: But they do multiple times a year because it's a
Speaker 3: perfect clock in the sky. They've been predicting eclipses forever.
Speaker 3: I want your audience say, no, this isn't a new thing.
Speaker 3: They've been able to predict them because it's a perfect
Speaker 3: clock in our sky. They repeat the same cycles over
Speaker 3: and over and over again. All this mumbo jumbo about
Speaker 3: what NASA's doing to predict eclipses, that's all pseudoscience. This
Speaker 3: has been done for centuries.
Speaker 2: And I will say that for sure, the eclipse is
Speaker 2: the astrology of it all. Like honestly, look at a
Speaker 2: farmer's almanac. Look at farmer's almanac from the early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: They've been able to clock this for a very long time.
Speaker 2: Look at the Maine calendar. They clocked that based off
Speaker 2: of stars and moons, and it's a whole thing, absolutely
Speaker 2: perfect clock.
Speaker 3: The clock itself was invented to it was twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: Of course, I know why they changed it to twelve.
Speaker 3: It's to get you on a time zone globular schedule.
Speaker 3: And then they tell you to put your clock forward.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm stealing that word globular. I'm stealing that
Speaker 2: fucking word.
Speaker 3: I love it, all right, But that's why they invented
Speaker 3: these things. To promote their model. They have to tell
Speaker 3: you to put your clock forward and put your clock back,
Speaker 3: or you go, dude, this time zone don't make sense.
Speaker 3: These seases don't make sense. They have to force these
Speaker 3: unnatural things. And then they make the clock twelve hours
Speaker 3: instead of twenty four. Well, it was always twenty four
Speaker 3: because where the small hand was on the twenty four
Speaker 3: hour clock is.
Speaker 2: Where the sun is at all times.
Speaker 3: If it's noon, if it is noon by you, that
Speaker 3: means the sun's directly above you. So they could predict
Speaker 3: time by the sun. They could predict the moons by
Speaker 3: the moon. I know they changed it to moon and month,
Speaker 3: but it was always moons because it had to do
Speaker 3: with the moon predicting the month, and then the stars
Speaker 3: themselves that come right back around where they started from
Speaker 3: one year later.
Speaker 2: That's to predict the years.
Speaker 3: So this perfect clock system in our sky has always
Speaker 3: been there, it always will be there, and none of
Speaker 3: it's far away. It's all right here and right above us.
Speaker 3: And every single light in the sky means something to us.
Speaker 3: But until you realize they're right above you, you can't
Speaker 3: even pretend to fathom a connection or a vibration or
Speaker 3: any getting gaining any frequencies from it. And that's why
Speaker 3: they told you the closest star is thirty six trillion
Speaker 3: light years away. Do you think you can maybe have
Speaker 3: a connection with that light? No, even if you try, your.
Speaker 2: Subconscious won't allow it.
Speaker 3: It's thirty six trillion light years away, man, not thirty
Speaker 3: six trillion miles away.
Speaker 2: That's long enough number.
Speaker 3: Thirty six light trillion light years away, meaning you disconnect,
Speaker 3: your mind blows up at that point, you short circuit.
Speaker 3: You don't even know what that means. You don't even
Speaker 3: know how far that actually is because it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: But you can't have a special connection with what you're
Speaker 3: supposed to if you know. And that's another thing with God.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, the Big Bang and God together again.
Speaker 3: I've never heard that yet. I'm glad you said that
Speaker 3: it's possible. But at the same time, where's God in
Speaker 3: all this? Is he eighty seven thousand millions trillion light
Speaker 3: years away? That's wow, you're real far away, man. I
Speaker 3: don't really feel real close with the Creator at that point,
Speaker 3: but I do. If there's water right a fuck above us,
Speaker 3: and that's why the sky's blue, because it's goddamn water.
Speaker 2: It's ocean above us.
Speaker 3: That's who knows if that's the heavens above that ocean,
Speaker 3: if we're on the top plane, the ninth heaven as
Speaker 3: they call it. I have no idea but for me,
Speaker 3: for me to think that they could send missiles straight
Speaker 3: up in.
Speaker 2: The air and it hits something. No, you're supposed to
Speaker 2: keep going up. Why would you stop at seventy three miles?
Speaker 2: I hear, But also I worship it was an omnipotent,
Speaker 2: omnipresent god. Although I don't believe that he is a
Speaker 2: sitting on a chair seventy million whatever. No, I believe
Speaker 2: he's everywhere and everywhere all at once. That's that's my
Speaker 2: personal beliefs. Though I get it. I understand that.
Speaker 3: But again, you're subconscious, maybe not your conscious at the moment.
Speaker 3: Your subconscious will have to adapt once you realize those
Speaker 3: lights are right above you and they're for you, and
Speaker 3: you can utilize them for your life and for your future.
Speaker 2: That's what the lights are.
Speaker 3: Why do you think they put the sun ninety three
Speaker 3: million miles away?
Speaker 2: By the way, you used to be one million.
Speaker 3: In Copernicus day, it was one million, and then it
Speaker 3: was you know, this was the story they told us.
Speaker 2: They admitted they admitted it.
Speaker 3: It was one million, then three, then ten, then one
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two or something, and then they brought
Speaker 3: about down to ninety three.
Speaker 2: And that's the modern way. That's science to you? How
Speaker 2: is that science?
Speaker 3: How can one guy say it's one million miles away
Speaker 3: without any evidence, and then another guy comes along and says,
Speaker 3: this is ninety three million miles away without any evidence,
Speaker 3: and we just go, dude, it's ninety three million miles away.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's what he said. Well, the other guy said something different.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you it's right fucking there.
Speaker 2: And if you.
Speaker 3: Knew that, if you knew that they were right there,
Speaker 3: like like you know it right, like you you do
Speaker 3: your own test, you zoom in on these starts. How
Speaker 3: can I zoom in on a dot sky?
Speaker 2: Brother?
Speaker 3: If that dot in the sky with our real eyeballs.
Speaker 3: We all go walk outside right now, we all look
Speaker 3: up and see the same lights. All we know is
Speaker 3: that they're lights. There's nothing else we know, and we
Speaker 3: need to all collectively stop at and like we know,
Speaker 3: we don't know what they are. We were told some stuff,
Speaker 3: We got some sould on some images and some beautiful
Speaker 3: three D spheres on them. Those are gas balls. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: come on, those are all fake photos this period.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
Speaker 3: They put Pluto, the Disney character in Pluto, and then
Speaker 3: they pulled Pluto out of it because they didn't want
Speaker 3: people catching it.
Speaker 2: I caught it.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: That's why Pluto's on a planet anymore.
Speaker 3: I understand that we have a voice where they would
Speaker 3: eliminate a planet because of our exposure to them. My
Speaker 3: point is this, though, all we know is that their
Speaker 3: lights in the sky. That's it, including the sun and moon.
Speaker 2: That's it. They're lights in the sky.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if I told you guys,
Speaker 3: let's go outside right now, I want your audience to
Speaker 3: I'll end on this. I want your audience to actually
Speaker 3: visualize this, or go outside while you're listening to me.
Speaker 3: If we all go outside right now, we look up,
Speaker 3: we all see those dots in the sky.
Speaker 2: We don't know what they are. We have no idea.
Speaker 2: Let's just say we were just born today. We have
Speaker 2: no whoa shit. That's beautiful. We all agree they're beautiful.
Speaker 3: But if someone came up to us and said, hey man,
Speaker 3: those lights are thirty six trillion light years away?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Oh, pretend we knew what it meant.
Speaker 3: Okay, really god, oh never mind, this's pretty far. But
Speaker 3: you know what, fuck it? I got this nicon P
Speaker 3: one thousand because this guy on my other shoulders said, no,
Speaker 3: they're like one hundred miles away. Now, granted, I'm making
Speaker 3: up that number, that's my guess. But here's my thing. Again,
Speaker 3: we don't know anything. Everyone in the audience listening, none
Speaker 3: of us know what those are. But we have two
Speaker 3: people telling us something. Right, I'll repeat it one more time.
Speaker 3: This guy said they're thirty six trillion light years away.
Speaker 3: Those dots with our human eyes, we could see those dots.
Speaker 3: They're thirty six trillion light years away.
Speaker 2: Holy shit. Okay, but this guy's.
Speaker 3: Like, now, they're one hundred miles I could prove him wrong.
Speaker 3: The guy that said they're one hundred miles away, couldn't
Speaker 3: I prove him wrong?
Speaker 2: Pretty easy? Right?
Speaker 3: The guy that said thirty six trillion light yars away?
Speaker 2: I can't prove him wrong or right. I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do now?
Speaker 3: Right? So you either have to take his word that
Speaker 3: just lied to you and move on or you listen
Speaker 3: to him and go all right, he said, one hundred
Speaker 3: miles away. That means that those dots in the sky
Speaker 3: that we can see with their naked eye, if I
Speaker 3: start zooming in, this guy would tell me they'll always
Speaker 3: be dots in the sky. Man, that doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: you zoom in on. That's thirty six trillion light years away.
Speaker 3: Do you think you're gonna even get a point zero
Speaker 3: zero zero one size difference by your little nikon on Earth.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: Nothing would change with those lights. You'd be zooming in
Speaker 3: on nothing. Now we both zooming on an airplane. We
Speaker 3: can imagine the airplane starts getting bigger. Right, Maybe you
Speaker 3: see the win.
Speaker 2: Windows right, so you can imagine that.
Speaker 3: Everyone in the audience can imagine zooming in on an
Speaker 3: airplane and it gets bigger.
Speaker 2: As you zoom in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's nine miles up. Why wouldn't they get bigger.
Speaker 3: You're zooming in on something in the sky. When we
Speaker 3: zoom in with a P one thousand on those little
Speaker 3: dots in the sky, the same effect happens as zooming
Speaker 3: in on an airplane. As soon as they start hitting zoom,
Speaker 3: they start growing in size like I'm going to them.
Speaker 3: And as they're growing, and as that dot starts opening
Speaker 3: up and growing insides, you see a motherfucking firmament of
Speaker 3: water and a light behind it. I can replicate this
Speaker 3: in my kitchen. You take a bowl of water, glass, plastic,
Speaker 3: as long as a seat through, I don't care what
Speaker 3: it's made out of. You put water in it, and
Speaker 3: you put a strongly the light underneath it. Look at
Speaker 3: your ceiling, it's a circle, circle ish with little waves,
Speaker 3: like an in ground pool with LEDs. Right, you see
Speaker 3: the little frequencies of water and the ripples. And that's
Speaker 3: what every star looks like when I zoom in on them.
Speaker 3: But they're all different colors. Some of them look like
Speaker 3: there's like a spiritual face in it.
Speaker 2: And see, I believe this space is a fluid. I
Speaker 2: don't believe that it's a vacuum. But I would like
Speaker 2: to have you back on the show to discuss that
Speaker 2: in and of itself, because I feel like, as the
Speaker 2: Bible says, and as you said, that there's water up
Speaker 2: there and it is a it's a liquid up there.
Speaker 2: Like yo, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that
Speaker 2: there's a lot more of the story than any of
Speaker 2: us know. You're saying that, I would love to discuss
Speaker 2: this deeper. For sure.
Speaker 3: You're saying that they went past that water and they
Speaker 3: started to go to explore other planets.
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying. No, I believe all of space
Speaker 2: is actually a fluid. I don't believe that there's I
Speaker 2: don't believe there's like a layer of water that you
Speaker 2: break through. I believe that it's all a liquid. I
Speaker 2: also don't you.
Speaker 3: Think that that they're lying to us about exploring outer space.
Speaker 2: I believe that a lot of it's a lie. Like
Speaker 2: I'll say the that I'll say ninety percent of what
Speaker 2: they've told us as far as their exploration and their
Speaker 2: research and the science that they have discovered in their things,
Speaker 2: I'll say ninety percent of its absolute horseshit.
Speaker 3: Sure, I'll give you that. I mean, but at the
Speaker 3: same time of them faking if the space just space
Speaker 3: in general, right, you have to look at the the
Speaker 3: the names they give names. I don't know what the
Speaker 3: word is, anomaly, the analogy, No, no, no, anomaly Okay,
Speaker 3: when they create words that have purpose, right, Oh, that's
Speaker 3: why they named it that.
Speaker 1: Oh, acronym acronym.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: So here's the thing, though, when you break down the
Speaker 3: word extra terrestrial from outer space, people on the street,
Speaker 3: what are they going to think I'm talking about if
Speaker 3: I say an extra terrestrial from outer space?
Speaker 2: Explain that? Well, I know that you're going you're talking
Speaker 2: about extra terrain. You're not talking about an alien from another planet.
Speaker 2: You're talking about a being from another group of land
Speaker 2: that we do not know about. Correct, that's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Well that that's why it's called that.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm trying to educate your audience that absolutely
Speaker 3: an extra terrestrial from outer space.
Speaker 2: They're telling you the truth. That's that's true.
Speaker 3: It's they didn't say upper space, guys, they said outer
Speaker 3: So if we live in the lake, a giant lake
Speaker 3: surrounded by water, surrounded by ice that holds the water
Speaker 3: in which we could prove ourselves. We just can't go
Speaker 3: past the ice, apparently, But we live this giant pond,
Speaker 3: we're in this we're shoved in the center or this
Speaker 3: giant melting pot of continents, and we went out to
Speaker 3: the outer space outside of our world. Yeah, there's extra
Speaker 3: terrain and extra terrestrial. That's extra terra if you if
Speaker 3: you break down the words, the definitions of the words
Speaker 3: they use, they're telling the truth, revelation of method. It's
Speaker 3: all there. They never set upper space. They don't even
Speaker 3: lie and tell you that the Hubble and all these telescopes.
Speaker 2: Are pointing up. They're not pointing up.
Speaker 3: They're pointing to the sixtieth parallel. They have telescopes stronger
Speaker 3: than anything you could imagine. But none of them are
Speaker 3: looking up.
Speaker 2: In the sky. Isn't that a red flag? They're all
Speaker 2: pointing to the outer lands. No one could come in.
Speaker 3: No one could come in, sorry, no one could come in,
Speaker 3: and no one could leave. They got telescopes for thousands
Speaker 3: of miles across flat water. Again, you can't have thousands
Speaker 3: of miles.
Speaker 2: Of radar on a sphere. Explain how that works.
Speaker 3: You can on a level surface, and they do. They
Speaker 3: utilize the technology to their advantage. That's why you can't
Speaker 3: even get remotely close to the citieth parallel. You'll be
Speaker 3: turned around instantly. I don't care if it's twenty boats going,
Speaker 3: we're gonna do this.
Speaker 2: You know you're not.
Speaker 3: We need millions of boats, unfortunately, and I think we'll
Speaker 3: get there one day. If I keep going the way
Speaker 3: I do. And you know, I feel like we're in
Speaker 3: this information war on spiritual where we're in that we're going.
Speaker 2: To win this war.
Speaker 3: And I think it takes people like you guys to
Speaker 3: explore other options because even if you or your audience
Speaker 3: they don't know the Earth is stationary yet or plane yet,
Speaker 3: and there's other planets across the way where we could go,
Speaker 3: probably live and have ten acres to ourselves when pay
Speaker 3: no taxes and have free clean water and free energy
Speaker 3: because they've been utilizing free energy over there forever Tesla
Speaker 3: was a syop in my opinion, But that's another that's
Speaker 3: another another show.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what, man, When the day comes
Speaker 2: and the boat launch happens and we make our way
Speaker 2: to the South Pole or to the North Pole, whichever
Speaker 2: way we go first, there's no but go ahead. I
Speaker 2: know what you meant. Yeah, whatever, you know my point
Speaker 2: Antarctica or the continents of the North as you say, Hey,
Speaker 2: I even if I don't agree with you, I'm coming
Speaker 2: on the fucking boat, dude. I'm fucking down for the cause.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, all the way.
Speaker 3: Should you'd rather know though, based off of evidence, based
Speaker 3: off of hot eyewitness testimony, and based off.
Speaker 2: Of ancient ancient texts.
Speaker 3: And I mean ancient is in the late eighteen hundred,
Speaker 3: it's not twelve forty two.
Speaker 2: Like, really, you're gonna believe that.
Speaker 3: I'll talking about recently, like literature and eyewitness testimony and evidence,
Speaker 3: and not just Admiral bird.
Speaker 2: I know, you know about Amiral bird. Oh we've done
Speaker 2: episodes on Amiral bird.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So here's the thing.
Speaker 3: If they're hiding more land, you have to care, man.
Speaker 3: You can't be a truth seeker and go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But if I don't, you know, if there's more continents,
Speaker 3: then they just lie. You know they have Yeah, they
Speaker 3: just hit some continents.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: It's much bigger than just a whatever thing. It's hiding freedom,
Speaker 3: it's hiding, it's stopping. It's like they put a cage
Speaker 3: around us.
Speaker 1: And I say, I don't care.
Speaker 2: But I think that also depends on a few things.
Speaker 2: Like if you found a seven thousand chain of small
Speaker 2: little specks of islands that are only big enough to
Speaker 2: fit like a hut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2: Now if you tell me you found seven thousand massive
Speaker 2: land masses, yeah, you know, I'd care absolutely so. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of other things that play into the level
Speaker 2: of give a fuck that I personally would give. But
Speaker 2: either way, that shakes out. If they have, in fact,
Speaker 2: quote unquote discovered new islands, Yeah, I do believe that
Speaker 2: should be common knowledge. I definitely believe that should be
Speaker 2: spoken of on all mainstream media, Facebook, all the stuff.
Speaker 2: Everybody should be talking about this one thousand. But yet
Speaker 2: you hear this nothing.
Speaker 1: No, this is something that you have to look for
Speaker 1: on your own. It's you can't be told this. You
Speaker 1: have to literally seek it for yourself.
Speaker 3: And that is the commandment it's all about. That's what
Speaker 3: it is, revelation method that they told you. Listen, brother,
Speaker 3: you can read over one hundred and fifty documents from
Speaker 3: NASA claiming the Earth is a flat, stationary, non rotating earth,
Speaker 3: and they and they, they test all their all their
Speaker 3: machines over a non rotating, flat, stationary Earth. Why would
Speaker 3: you disagree with me a truth seeker and with NASA?
Speaker 3: Who are you agreeing with at this point?
Speaker 1: No doubt, dude. Well, Sean, I think that you are
Speaker 1: probably the new flat Earth wizard of this show. I
Speaker 1: think sure, We've had plenty of flat earthers on the show.
Speaker 2: Wis and be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know your shit. Whenever it comes to flat Earth.
Speaker 1: I want to say thank you for everything you've done.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on the Show's an absolute pleasure
Speaker 1: having you, man. And yeah, hopefully we do it again
Speaker 1: sometime brother, anytime. Yeah, man, absolutely, Well until next time.
Speaker 1: This was another beautiful episode of the Cult of Conspiracy.
Speaker 1: And my name's Jonathan Jacob and there's one very important,
Speaker 1: extremely vital piece of information we need you to learn
Speaker 1: just as soon as humanly possible, open up that third eye.
Speaker 2: Are you still cool to hang out for the after
Speaker 2: show portion?
Speaker 1: That's been a fucking long show.
Speaker 2: I've been two and fifteen, bro, this is supposed to
Speaker 2: be an hour, but we just roll with it.
Speaker 1: It do like you got a motherfucking motoring you, Brode.
Speaker 1: I'm actually jealous.
Speaker 3: It's Jacob right, Yeah, okay, it's thanks to Jay because
Speaker 3: if you guys were if this was an echo chamber
Speaker 3: of flat Earth, which I can't stand anymore it would
Speaker 3: have been, you probably would have got me for forty five minutes.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you, though, bro, And I'm
Speaker 2: kind of pissed at you at this moment. Why because
Speaker 2: I wanted to let this show be a promotion for
Speaker 2: his program, not a fucking flat earth debate that we've
Speaker 2: done over and fucking over because he's a glober.
Speaker 1: And then it kicked everything off.
Speaker 3: I was like, don't look at it like that, because
Speaker 3: I have never been in a debate, and I never was.
Speaker 2: I wasn't in the debate today. I was just educating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no debate. There was just ideas going
Speaker 1: back and forth.
Speaker 3: I don't debate, bro, there's no debating is an old
Speaker 3: technique that doesn't work because you're gonna have both sides.
Speaker 3: Pick your side. It doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 3: You're you're always gonna have both sides.
Speaker 2: But and that's why I'm saying it creased the division
Speaker 2: within our conspiracy community because we don't just talk flat Earth.
Speaker 2: We talk everything, and so when we get on a
Speaker 2: topic like this, it splits not just our fan base,
Speaker 2: it splits people, and then we get haters, not at us,
Speaker 2: but against these trolls.
Speaker 3: It's mostly trolls come in for flatterir stuff there and
Speaker 3: you go look at their account.
Speaker 2: They don't even have any videos. They don't have any
Speaker 2: their troll troll accounts.
Speaker 3: I get them all the time, man, I get the
Speaker 3: only hate comments I get on anything I've ever doe
Speaker 3: on flat Earth.
Speaker 2: When I go to that page, they just.
Speaker 1: They they they are three followers usually none and no
Speaker 1: videos and no nothing, and have been on YouTube for
Speaker 1: a week.
Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, I mean, but I mean, even
Speaker 4: our conspiracy community fans, right, they even hit each other up,
Speaker 4: not dming each other, but you'll see the comments and
Speaker 4: they don't get crazy nasty with it because we have
Speaker 4: good you know, we have a good, solid group.
Speaker 1: That listen to us.
Speaker 2: But I see so many opportunities and so many open
Speaker 2: doors for people to just slam into them and hit
Speaker 2: them with it. Not necessarily hate, but it causes division, right, nic,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna should be on the same side.
Speaker 1: Actually, fuck no, I'm gonna absolutely disagree because exactly what
Speaker 1: he was saying, he didn't want to be here in
Speaker 1: an echo chamber, And I don't think the conspiracy realm
Speaker 1: should be an echo chamber of itself. You're saying that
Speaker 1: because people can't agree on something that we shouldn't talk about.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about it.
Speaker 2: I'm saying it shouldn't be our main point.
Speaker 1: You know, no, it's nothing is our main point. We
Speaker 1: have a main point.
Speaker 3: But but I can never I can never be on
Speaker 3: a show with the Glober and feel defeated.
Speaker 2: It's it's actually impossible.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like being on a show with someone
Speaker 3: that and I'm not comparing.
Speaker 2: You to this bro, just no, no, no, no. For me.
Speaker 3: For me, it's it's like being on a show when
Speaker 3: someone's telling me that Bill Gates is a good guy
Speaker 3: and he cares about our health. It's like, that's gonna
Speaker 3: be a hilarious like for me, that's a that's not
Speaker 3: a debate, right, Like would that be a debate for you?
Speaker 1: That's not I'm not the ba.
Speaker 3: I'm telling the truth about the man and what he's doing.
Speaker 3: You're saying what the magazine said, So it's it's not
Speaker 3: a debate. It's a let me break down what you
Speaker 3: just said for your audience so I can explain it
Speaker 3: in my way, and my way is going to be
Speaker 3: more of a concrete go look it up yourself, and
Speaker 3: then just you know, hey, I think it's a ball
Speaker 3: just because it's like, well, NASA disagrees with you and
Speaker 3: I That's where I usually start with people, is like you,
Speaker 3: you're not a NASA boy, but it's just like the
Speaker 3: NASA boys and that invite me on and stuff. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you agree with NASA, right, And I'm like, oh, they're like,
Speaker 3: of course, one hundred percent. Then I pull up these documents,
Speaker 3: I share the screen and they're like, oh, wait.
Speaker 2: Hold on. How many shows have you been invited to?
Speaker 2: People who are not of the flat earth realm don't
Speaker 2: even want to hear the talk. They're actually bringing you
Speaker 2: on to kind of bash you. How many times does
Speaker 2: that happen? You said you avoided a set up?
Speaker 3: I avoid all all said no, no, I will the universe.
Speaker 2: I'll always know.
Speaker 3: So you've never been set up and actually walked in
Speaker 3: the walk through that door. I avoid every I've avoided
Speaker 3: every setup. Even when I thought it was wrong, I
Speaker 3: was still right and there was a setup. I've avoided
Speaker 3: them all, and I don't. I don't want to be
Speaker 3: involved with that stuff because I'm the type of person
Speaker 3: I was just disconnect the call instantly, but then that
Speaker 3: looks like a defeat to people, So I don't I
Speaker 3: don't even set myself to be a part of it.
Speaker 3: But no, I have been in situations where like, there
Speaker 3: was one guy that was, you know, he had a
Speaker 3: bachelard's he was a scientist. He had a bachelor's or
Speaker 3: master's degree in everything that you more than Neil Degress
Speaker 3: Tyson put it that way, m hm.
Speaker 2: And he lost. He lost. If you call that a debate.
Speaker 3: I had my boy, Austin wits it the guy that
Speaker 3: you were questioning about electrostatics, and trust you would love
Speaker 3: to talk to you guys on the show Gravity Versus
Speaker 3: electro Statics. He'll blow your fucking mind. Maybe he did
Speaker 3: misspeak in the film. I don't fucking know. Possibly will
Speaker 3: tell you, trust me, he will tell you what he
Speaker 3: meant and he'll show you.
Speaker 2: So but it was me and him.
Speaker 3: So I had my boy Austin, and this real scientist
Speaker 3: got so baffled man that he almost started crying because
Speaker 3: he was getting smacked in the face with his pseudoscience,
Speaker 3: recollection of pseuic science. And Austin so quick with a question, quick,
Speaker 3: a quick question with a guy that's supposed to be
Speaker 3: a master in every field.
Speaker 2: Okay, explain this X y Z I can't talk like Austin.
Speaker 2: I'm a filmmaker.
Speaker 3: Bro. Austin just comes right in with this question, and
Speaker 3: this guy is like ready to stab himself in the.
Speaker 2: Neck because he can't get out. There's certain questions, especially
Speaker 2: with gravity.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's certain questions that if a real
Speaker 3: person that took eight years in college and that's their
Speaker 3: whole life dedication, and you ask certain questions. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's similar to asking a hardcore Christian bringing up my
Speaker 3: son and the sun and walking on water and the
Speaker 3: actual metaphor is involved with it all. And the twelve Apostles, No,
Speaker 3: that's ours, that's the twelve planets or whatever.
Speaker 2: I know, I've heard it all, and it's a very
Speaker 2: compelling story. And I know I've had multiple people say
Speaker 2: they have found every single story of the Bible in
Speaker 2: the stars and it's all astrology and stories, the same
Speaker 2: myths that have been told with different names. I hear it.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: But once again, and we can never have that talk
Speaker 2: on a level playing field because you disagree with history.
Speaker 2: You disagree with like the Roman documentation of anything period.
Speaker 2: So that's that's the other thing too. Whenever you get
Speaker 2: into that debate when you get into that talking point, right,
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: There has to be.
Speaker 2: If there is no baseline to start from, then the
Speaker 2: entire talk is just pointless.
Speaker 3: Unless you're talking about how the history has been stolen
Speaker 3: from us.
Speaker 1: Well, that, yeah, almost everybody can agree on. So Sean,
Speaker 1: do you uh do you? Did you go to school
Speaker 1: for filmmaking or something?
Speaker 2: Background?
Speaker 1: Your shit, Your shit's fucking clean, dude.
Speaker 3: I used to be a music producer in Chicago, so
Speaker 3: I've always been production minded, but I moved to Cali.
Speaker 3: Well before I moved to Cali, I was doing sports
Speaker 3: hype videos for every company besides ESPN put it that way,
Speaker 3: all the all the smaller ones, and uh doing like
Speaker 3: hype real videos like when the Cubs won the World Series.
Speaker 2: I did a huge one. It was on the radio station,
Speaker 2: it was promoted, so I had sport.
Speaker 3: I was doing these little clips and highlight reels, and
Speaker 3: I was actually writing scripts for people like you know, this.
Speaker 2: Guy passes down the five foo touchdown. I'm writing this.
Speaker 3: I didn't like that part of it, the scripts for
Speaker 3: the teleprompters, but I was doing that type of stuff
Speaker 3: and then Eric Dbay, you know, I watched that video
Speaker 3: two intred proofs the Earth's not a globe in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3: I watched it to laugh at it, and then I
Speaker 3: couldn't sleep that night. And I remember last stuff my
Speaker 3: late mother told me when I was little, when I'd
Speaker 3: bring home science projects with styrofoam.
Speaker 2: We all did the planets and everything, and she would.
Speaker 3: Tell me this, this is bullshit, this is not the
Speaker 3: Sun's not in the middle, and this is all like
Speaker 3: why are they teaching you, you kids, these lies and
Speaker 3: all this stuff, And as.
Speaker 2: A kid, you're just like, shut the fuck up, You're weird.
Speaker 2: So your mom was trying to wake you up from
Speaker 2: day one, I think so.
Speaker 3: She also didn't vaccinate any of us. I've never had
Speaker 3: a jab in me ever, not even at birth.
Speaker 2: I've had none.
Speaker 1: Ahesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've always been on a conspiracy mind. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was the kid in high school sophomore when nine
Speaker 3: to eleven happened, running around the school saying, how the
Speaker 3: building fall?
Speaker 2: How did that fall? Did you see it fall? It fell?
Speaker 3: That can't happen, and now get suspended and all that shit.
Speaker 1: Yuh see.
Speaker 2: I didn't get suspended for it, but I was that
Speaker 2: kid's sophomore year high school. It was years after it
Speaker 2: happened for me, but it was actually freshman year of
Speaker 2: high school. A guy introduced me to the nine to
Speaker 2: eleven Conspiracy, and that pretty much just shattered every bit
Speaker 2: of what I thought I knew about.
Speaker 1: Fuck all, dude, is anybody ever told you you look
Speaker 1: like the fucking wrestler? Uh, Seth Rollins? How did I know?
Speaker 2: You were gonna say? Seth Freaker? Don't even know who
Speaker 2: that is?
Speaker 1: So no, dude, look him up, y'all look fucking so similar.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I used to quit and that you guys remember Oldberg Goldberg?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the only sixteen years old baby. As
Speaker 3: soon as I saw Goldberg's tattoo, I was like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Getting that's hilarious. Sixteen years old. I got this bowld
Speaker 1: because of the rock. I'm not even shitting you, bro,
Speaker 1: that's a real story. I'm a tourist, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I love the rock, dude, I love that idea.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 3: I'd i'd be called baby hitler, But I have a
Speaker 3: Jews tattoo.
Speaker 2: Ain't that something a jewe tattoo of a Cherokee tribal
Speaker 2: It's you know what? Fuck it? We all over the place.
Speaker 1: Fuck out. That's my joke.
Speaker 2: When I that's my joke.
Speaker 3: When people call me anti, I just go, yeah, I
Speaker 3: got Goldberg's tattoo because I'm anti Semitic.
Speaker 2: Go fuck yourself. Oh bro, I've been called an anti
Speaker 2: semi myself, and I'm like, my last name is German Jew.
Speaker 1: So dope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but still imagine growing up in the South Side
Speaker 3: Chicago being called Hitler and then they yeah, graduation, they
Speaker 3: say Hitler.
Speaker 2: They did that at your graduation, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and didn't surprise me. People are fucked. Kids are fucked, especially.
Speaker 3: People are Luckily for them, there was no Jews in
Speaker 3: my class, so they were all safe.
Speaker 2: Everybody was safe, no doubt. So you went to a
Speaker 2: public school in Chicago, got you. Now, I'm joking exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: You know, I activated assassins all day and night. That's
Speaker 3: one of the main reason why I came to rock
Speaker 3: Fit because of the MMA influence. I'm friends with Eddie already,
Speaker 3: I'm friends with Bryce Mitchell and friends with Joe Bauman
Speaker 3: so and a lot of these blue check mark MMA
Speaker 3: people they follow me. I don't even know who they are,
Speaker 3: but they got a whole bunch of followers.
Speaker 2: I don't even know them. But again it's how did
Speaker 2: you get in with this crew?
Speaker 3: It sees well, you know, Eddie woke up to flatter,
Speaker 3: not saying for me, but Bryce Mitchell definitely woke up
Speaker 3: to flatter because of me personally. So when you change
Speaker 3: someone's paradigm, they want to know who you are. You're
Speaker 3: the celebrity now to them. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I first met Bryce.
Speaker 3: Mitchell, I wasn't nervous and I met I don't even
Speaker 3: want to tell you the celebrities I met in the past.
Speaker 2: So it's Bryce Mitchell.
Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure he's used to that kind of
Speaker 3: like someone's going to be nervous around me type of stuff.
Speaker 2: So but it was it was kind of opposite.
Speaker 3: He was kind of seem nervous around me, and then
Speaker 3: he kept praising me, and then I changed his life
Speaker 3: and he can't thank me enough, and he's.
Speaker 2: He's he was. It seemed like he was nervous.
Speaker 1: It was weird.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, Like you're used to cameras in
Speaker 3: your face and and you're like you're nervous around me.
Speaker 2: It's it was weird.
Speaker 3: So I looked at it, like, you know what, these
Speaker 3: are the exact type of crowd I want to wake up.
Speaker 3: If I had a chance to wake up, pussy's or assassins.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna choose assassins. Fact, no offense.
Speaker 3: I'm not calling you one, Jacob, but the global community.
Speaker 2: And they're like, they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: hear me out.
Speaker 1: You get the preface, but still I have no idea
Speaker 1: what the funk you're about to say.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying in general, the global community like their channels,
Speaker 3: like the Earth's not flat, Like they're all pussies. You
Speaker 3: see their mo you see their soul inside of them.
Speaker 2: There pussys. It's very m PC.
Speaker 3: It would never do this in the in anyone's face,
Speaker 3: but they're pussies, so they're caring see their pussies. Do
Speaker 3: I need to activate the pussies? No, where are the
Speaker 3: assassines of the world.
Speaker 2: We're in a war. I want to talk to the
Speaker 2: assassins and go knock on. I gotta knock in here.
Speaker 2: Wake the fuck up. We need you because I'm not
Speaker 2: that type of person, but we need you.
Speaker 3: So that's why the rock fin was an easy decision
Speaker 3: at that point because I knew the M M A crowd, the.
Speaker 2: Rustling crowd and everything you see, we're at that point.
Speaker 2: We very rarely get somebody that like gets fangirly quote
Speaker 2: unquote over us. But we are very small in the
Speaker 2: podcast community, you know what I mean, We've only been
Speaker 2: at it for a few years. When it does happen,
Speaker 2: I know what you mean, it's kind of like, why
Speaker 2: are you weird like this towards me? Dude? I'm just
Speaker 2: a dude, So I get that. But yeah, through this
Speaker 2: and through those connections, and because you are one of
Speaker 2: the all stars of the flat Earth movement, the flat
Speaker 2: Earth community, the name is associated with it, you've released
Speaker 2: some movies with it. I assume there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people of all types of backgrounds that are following you
Speaker 2: and checking you out. So I could absolutely imagine that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure. Again, but that's why I go back to it.
Speaker 3: That's my most favorite part of it all is knowing
Speaker 3: that the assassins of this world that know how to
Speaker 3: know how to kill a man in one minute or
Speaker 3: one second or less, whatever the.
Speaker 2: Joke is, you know, they need to wake up.
Speaker 3: And I think you guys would all agree that if
Speaker 3: you had to vote for for a pussy or an.
Speaker 2: Assassin to wake up during this war, it's the assassin.
Speaker 3: So it's like, that's my top. You're like, why do
Speaker 3: you got a bunch of MMA fighters in this? Because
Speaker 3: the MMA fighters will watch? Right.
Speaker 2: But even as a glober bro, even as a global
Speaker 2: I don't mind having a talk with anybody about anything.
Speaker 2: I enjoy it because the back and forth is good.
Speaker 2: This is how growth happens. Right, even if I disagree
Speaker 2: with you, I now understand your perspective way more than
Speaker 2: I did two hours and forty seven minutes ago, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And I personally feel like this
Speaker 2: we're all being made better by this conversation. So you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I don't even if I disagree
Speaker 2: with the person. Dude, we can talk. Let's let's have
Speaker 2: an open discussion, let's learn you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Fuck out that life, Sean, Dude. I definitely want to
Speaker 1: get together with you again. Maybe six months down the
Speaker 1: road or something like that.
Speaker 3: Dude, Oh even sooner, man, just whenever you guys need
Speaker 3: somebody to fill a spot and just give me a
Speaker 3: heads up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking right, dude, I appreciate that. Yeah, man, Well
Speaker 1: all right dude, yeah, fuck, I guess we'll see you then, brother, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Whenever, man, anytime, let me know.
Speaker 3: And if you if any especially Jacob, if you needed
Speaker 3: some some links or evidence of something that I mentioned
Speaker 3: on your show, just let me know, especially if you're
Speaker 3: actually trying to seek the truth about where you live.
Speaker 2: What again, And I mean this would love brother.
Speaker 3: The reason you say it doesn't matter either way is
Speaker 3: because you don't know yet. But once you know, everything
Speaker 3: changes head to toe inside outside. Everything changes once you
Speaker 3: actually know it and stop believing it. Once you know
Speaker 3: the truth, it one hundred percent matters, and then your
Speaker 3: life can change.
Speaker 2: Whether you know that now or not, it will change.
Speaker 2: But you got to put in some work though.
Speaker 3: That's all meaning you got to research the globe, and
Speaker 3: you have to try to again, try to prove it
Speaker 3: to yourself. And once you feel like you can't, and
Speaker 3: that's okay, we've all been there. Once you feel like
Speaker 3: you really can't, that's when you go, okay, what, let
Speaker 3: me maybe hit Hibbler up now, Like, give me some
Speaker 3: links of some science ye type of tests, some things
Speaker 3: I can do myself inexpensive to prove anything, because.
Speaker 2: I look that up and there's no proof of anything.
Speaker 2: So I'll come back to you, Hibler, what kind of
Speaker 2: what can I do?
Speaker 3: Because they don't allow me to prove it when it's
Speaker 3: trillions of miles away and when you can only go
Speaker 3: on a rocket, I don't have access to one. So
Speaker 3: once you realize that they have infiltrated your ability to
Speaker 3: prove any of this to yourself, I give you some
Speaker 3: stuff that you can go prove right away, and you
Speaker 3: can't deny it anymore.
Speaker 2: Man, that's all. You wouldn't be able to deny it anymore.
Speaker 1: And I'm with you.
Speaker 2: And like you said, your whole everything changes. The truth
Speaker 2: that I have that I know there's nothing to do
Speaker 2: with flat around Earth. The truth that I have that
Speaker 2: I know that like has got me, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, is on a different spectrum all together. So
Speaker 2: that and I know that you don't agree with religion.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with organized religion, like I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you and I are on the same
Speaker 2: page on a lot of that as well. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: But that being said, whether the ball or the flat
Speaker 2: changes no perspective over my relationship with God and how
Speaker 2: I live my day to day existence. Now that's just
Speaker 2: a me thing.
Speaker 3: And maybe I hope you understood what I meant when
Speaker 3: I was trying to explain the discuss.
Speaker 2: That's all I do. I absolutely do, and that's why
Speaker 2: again I ge and respect and hear all the points.
Speaker 2: Man A thousand percent due, and who knows, maybe by
Speaker 2: the end of this y'all will have me convinced that
Speaker 2: it's a flat Earth. But if it is, David Weiss
Speaker 2: is gonna be one happy motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, David Weiss man him a fucking bet that if
Speaker 1: if he ever got convinced that the Earth was flat,
Speaker 1: then he would have to get a flat earth fucking
Speaker 1: tramp stamp tattoo.
Speaker 2: Oh that's why you're fighting it. I get it, Hey, man,
Speaker 2: Dave's a good guy. He won't make you actually do that. Man, No,
Speaker 2: I know Dave's a good dude, he is, But you
Speaker 2: make you do that?
Speaker 1: Fuck it.
Speaker 2: I'm a man of my word, and I put it
Speaker 2: out on the air. The public's gonna make sure that
Speaker 2: he's that person to come to a mutual.
Speaker 3: Agreement to get it on your arm. At that point,
Speaker 3: that's all on the.
Speaker 1: Shoulder or something.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what we might please with this episode,
Speaker 3: thumbnail and your tattoo.
Speaker 2: Don't put a snow globe up, don't put a pancake
Speaker 2: in space. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: Oh come on, I know you and logo in my ass.
Speaker 2: I'll email you guys a map if you want to
Speaker 2: use a template or something, show that see everything you know.
Speaker 1: We may even make it a thing.
Speaker 2: Let the cult members decide where I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean hopefully you're coming around.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying usually when I'm on shows not gonna
Speaker 3: say like this, that's wrong, shows that aren't pure flat
Speaker 3: Earth related, they're gonna, because I'm talking flat Earth, they're
Speaker 3: gonna put in a thumbnail a pancake and space or something.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3: So you're showing an audience a thumbnail of something I'm
Speaker 3: not even talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm actually denouncing that on the show.
Speaker 1: So it makes for like with the ice running over
Speaker 1: the edges in space that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, dude, we're not floating. We're not. We're
Speaker 2: just in a realm. We're in a matrix realm. Dude,
Speaker 2: We'll use the fucking logo for your your latest film
Speaker 2: if you want Yeah, that's fine. You could do that.
Speaker 3: That's the completely that's completely up to you, however you
Speaker 3: want to design yourself. I'm not telling you what to do.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, for my sake, don't don't put a pancake
Speaker 3: in space, because I that's not what flat Earth is.
Speaker 3: And that's not and that's the number one thing that's
Speaker 3: how their people are programmed to think it's stupid, is
Speaker 3: because even truth seeking platforms and truth seeking shows, even
Speaker 3: Sam Tripley has done, and I've yelled at them stop
Speaker 3: doing that because you don't have to agree with me,
Speaker 3: but you're not definitely not going to keep fucking showing
Speaker 3: something I don't even believe in trying to promote it,
Speaker 3: like that's what flat earth is.
Speaker 2: That's not what flat earth is.
Speaker 3: It's in a We're in an infinite possibly an infinite
Speaker 3: plane structured matrix realm.
Speaker 2: We're just in a realm. It's stationary.
Speaker 3: Everything above us is moving. It's about all we know.
Speaker 3: Man and water is always level. That's about all we
Speaker 3: know at that point.
Speaker 2: But so you do believe max theory, Oh yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: this is definitely uh for me.
Speaker 3: There's a creator and that we we're all in like
Speaker 3: a avatar avatar suit.
Speaker 2: Okay, the next time you come on the show, we'll
Speaker 2: touch on flat Earth, but we need to get on
Speaker 2: other conspiracies you fuck with, dude, Well, yeah, it's not
Speaker 2: really conspiracy. Well, we're living in but it's none of
Speaker 2: it's random.
Speaker 3: This is perfectly designed system that we live in, and
Speaker 3: this awakening happening monumentally was supposed to happen.
Speaker 2: They knew it was going to happen thousands of years ago.
Speaker 2: I would predict it's classified as conspiracy. When someone's looking
Speaker 2: up this type of information it's on this You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying exactly. Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 2: It is truth, but to the world it's seen as conspiracy.
Speaker 2: So you know what, what are all video games made on?
Speaker 3: What? What are all flight simulators made on an infinite plane?
Speaker 3: They're not made on a sphere. They're made on an
Speaker 3: infinite plane. They're not made in a snow globe either. Sorry, flighter,
Speaker 3: there's other flighter.
Speaker 2: There's they're not made on a snow globe. Okay, there's
Speaker 2: no dome of glass over us.
Speaker 3: The Simpsons do it on purpose because they want to again,
Speaker 3: they want that that George Bush knew it type of
Speaker 3: backup conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that dude. I know Christians that believe it's
Speaker 2: a glass dome. I know, no offense to the Bible,
Speaker 2: but that's why it's in there. I'm sorry like that.
Speaker 3: They have a strategy on how to do everything, and
Speaker 3: they know how to use words in scriptures and turn
Speaker 3: it against us.
Speaker 2: And that. Yeah, it's also another word for that would
Speaker 2: have been expanse. The great expanse. God separated the water
Speaker 2: from above from below by the Great expanse. That changes
Speaker 2: the whole narrative right there, And it's the same word.
Speaker 3: We're in a contained system, Perio, this whole system where
Speaker 3: in is contained. You can't go up and keep going.
Speaker 3: You can't go down and keep going. They've proven it
Speaker 3: over and over again. They've tried missiles, they've tried everything.
Speaker 3: They can't break through above us. They can't get down
Speaker 3: below us. So everything that we were taught about the
Speaker 3: core of the earth and everything, it's all bullshit. Everything
Speaker 3: is false.
Speaker 2: It's false.
Speaker 3: So you have to start over at some point. If
Speaker 3: everything is false, you got okay, where are we? And
Speaker 3: that's what I do as a flat earth.
Speaker 2: There's I know it's a stationary plane.
Speaker 1: I know it.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that I know that, but I still
Speaker 2: don't admit that I know what everything is and what's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 3: We're trying to figure it out collectively, especially people like
Speaker 3: Austin and Dave and Tanner and like Santos Binacular. We
Speaker 3: try so I keep real tight contact with these guys
Speaker 3: because they're on my mission of what else can we
Speaker 3: figure out? Now?
Speaker 2: What can we find out about this place? What can
Speaker 2: prove something else? What else can we do because we.
Speaker 3: Were told nothing that's real, So we have to figure
Speaker 3: this out our own. And I think that's why they
Speaker 3: discontinued a lot of these nikons is because they knew
Speaker 3: why people were buying them. And if I could zoom
Speaker 3: in on something one hundred miles down the ocean, that
Speaker 3: should be a problem for you. But if I also
Speaker 3: use that same camera and look up and go, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, why is that growing in size? Why is
Speaker 3: it getting clearer and clearer as I zoom in on it?
Speaker 3: And a lot of that's in level too, so I
Speaker 3: mean the next level. When you guys watch that, that's
Speaker 3: more about more Land, and it's about the North Pole
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: So the north and the south. Basically, the next level
Speaker 2: is about the north.
Speaker 3: And the south, right, okay, yeah, and then level level
Speaker 3: is more basic of sun moon stars, the basic stuff
Speaker 3: of like what you know, the sun's ninety three them, No,
Speaker 3: it's not so, it's so un mooning stars for the
Speaker 3: most part.
Speaker 2: Astro theology a lot in there too.
Speaker 3: And then we go right after Neil deGrasse Tyson and
Speaker 3: I was trying to get sued for defamation of character,
Speaker 3: and he he bailed on that.
Speaker 1: Trying to get sued.
Speaker 2: I agree, No, I'm for real, Yeah, I was trying.
Speaker 2: I was trying. I was, and this film I'm trying.
Speaker 3: You know, Judith Resnik, there's people that can literally sue
Speaker 3: me if they won't because as soon as they take
Speaker 3: me to court, Stu Peters will be outside number one,
Speaker 3: that's already guaranteed. And then I'll have who knows, Alex
Speaker 3: might tag along his shill ass, but I will have
Speaker 3: networks of people and companies outside the courtroom every day
Speaker 3: bringing attention to it, and they know that'll happen.
Speaker 2: They'll never sue me.
Speaker 3: NASA will never sue me for selling their product on
Speaker 3: my rental films and stuff.
Speaker 2: You can't do that. I didn't ask their permission. Come
Speaker 2: get me that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Come Come take me to court, because I'll bring all
Speaker 3: your documents to state that my film is true.
Speaker 2: Because you said it here. What do you mean?
Speaker 3: Why are you writing this on paper earth and you're
Speaker 3: suing me for saying I'm lying to people in this film.
Speaker 2: You said it.
Speaker 3: That's why they can't do it. They don't want anyone
Speaker 3: knowing about it. So you don't suicide people on this topic.
Speaker 2: You don't. All you can do is shadow ban them.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it's all we can do, guys, because we start
Speaker 3: taking them out. It's red flag over the shape of
Speaker 3: the Earth.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense. It's stupid. That's why they.
Speaker 3: It's the most shadow band topic period is flat Earth.
Speaker 3: You go to TikTok and you see one point six
Speaker 3: billion searches this month. You wonder why TikTok's freaking out.
Speaker 3: People think it's for other things. They don't know how
Speaker 3: big this actually is. You can't have one point six
Speaker 3: billion searches this month for flat earth. Hashtag flat earth
Speaker 3: and stay up. They're very piss of TikTok and people don't.
Speaker 3: They just don't want to admit that. It's because of that.
Speaker 3: There's nothing more searched on Tictok than flat earth. And
Speaker 3: it's been that way for two straight years now. No
Speaker 3: one wants to talk about it. They well, they're gonna
Speaker 3: shut them down. They come up with excuses why they're
Speaker 3: gonna shut them down.
Speaker 1: It's all false, it's all bullshit.
Speaker 2: Al Right, guys, I'm gonna roll.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you very wait to do it again, man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: absolutely bro, all right, man, take care of hit me up.
Speaker 1: Man, we'll do