Speaker 1: It's nice eyes unelling Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm number four coming here on Monday nine,
Speaker 2: and we're going to change topics we had. Uh, there was,
Speaker 2: It's just funny. There's an interesting story that happened this afternoon.
Speaker 2: The JFK Library over in Dorchester was temporarily closed due
Speaker 2: to I'm not sure what. Uh. The The Globe headline
Speaker 2: says closed due to workers sudden dismissal, and the National
Speaker 2: Archive says the JFK Library will reopen on Wednesday. Now,
Speaker 2: this was fairly high up. It might have even been
Speaker 2: the lead story on the Channel five newscast. I was
Speaker 2: trying to flip back and forth between four and five.
Speaker 2: And of course, there's no reason for the JFK Library
Speaker 2: to be closed. It's uh, it's it's funded, it's open.
Speaker 2: Apparently there are some people who were there as employees
Speaker 2: on probation. They hadn't received the equivalent of tenure, which
Speaker 2: to me is kind of an interesting concept. And it
Speaker 2: may be that as a consequence that've lost some jobs.
Speaker 2: I hope not, but people lose jobs in the private
Speaker 2: sector every day of the week. But it caused quite
Speaker 2: a kerfuffle, and when you think about all that's going
Speaker 2: on down in Washington. One name comes to mind. You
Speaker 2: would think it would be Donald Trump's name, who would
Speaker 2: come to mind, And yes, that is one name that
Speaker 2: comes to mind. But the name Elon Musk, the head
Speaker 2: of the Department of Governmental Efficiency, also comes to mind. Now,
Speaker 2: Elon Musk is has been the focus of a lot
Speaker 2: of the demonstrations that we have seen in recent days,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure will be the focus of demonstrations that
Speaker 2: we have seen in other times. But Elon Musk is
Speaker 2: to some people a hero, some people he's a villain,
Speaker 2: and he's a fascinating character. Whatever you think of him,
Speaker 2: He's somebody who has made immense wealth, immense wealth. For
Speaker 2: a long time, he was kind of a darling of
Speaker 2: the progressive left because he was very much into electric vehicles,
Speaker 2: which many people felt would finally put those gas guzzlers
Speaker 2: out of business. Hasn't quite worked out that way. He's
Speaker 2: been an innovator along with Jeff Bezos, and a competitor
Speaker 2: with Bezos in terms of the private space craftmanship that
Speaker 2: they have both engaged in. And there was a point
Speaker 2: in time where he was a darling of Silicon Valley.
Speaker 2: I mean and all that it represented. And then there
Speaker 2: came a time when he bought Twitter, which is now
Speaker 2: called x and somehow, some way he formed an alliance
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump. And now some people say he's the
Speaker 2: co president. They say Trump is the president. Jd. Vance
Speaker 2: is the vice president. They were both elected, but Elon
Speaker 2: Musk is the co president with Donald Trump though he
Speaker 2: was never elected. And it's fascinating to watch what's going
Speaker 2: to happen. And by the way, if you didn't hear
Speaker 2: our hour last night at nine o'clock with Professor Jeff
Speaker 2: Myron of Harvard University. He's the director of the Undergraduate
Speaker 2: Economics Program. He's senior lecturer at Harvard. Check out the
Speaker 2: podcast It's last Night, It's nine o'clock News, nine o'clock Hour.
Speaker 2: It was really good. We had some great callers in
Speaker 2: that hour, as well as great conversation and clear concise
Speaker 2: answers to questions that were provided by Professor Myron. H
Speaker 2: that that's really important. So Elon Musk now has he's
Speaker 2: he's making some outrageous claims. He's causing incredible disruption. I mean,
Speaker 2: whether you agree with it or not, he is. He
Speaker 2: has landed in Washington with a thud. He was quoted yesterday.
Speaker 2: He had won quote that I caught yesterday, which which
Speaker 2: I thought was interesting, and it does kind of encapsulate
Speaker 2: his transit from where he was a few years ago
Speaker 2: to where he is today. And again there are people
Speaker 2: who have you know, there are I can think of
Speaker 2: some Republicans who became Democrats, certainly members of the January
Speaker 2: sixth Committee, who you thought of as Republicans who tended
Speaker 2: to be quite critical of Donald Trump, and whether they
Speaker 2: formally left the Republican Party or informally left the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: I think of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinsinger, whether they
Speaker 2: were left or allowed themselves to to be to be
Speaker 2: cast side whatever. And I can think of Democrats who
Speaker 2: have gone in the other direction. And I'm I think
Speaker 2: of Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who now is a Cabinet
Speaker 2: secretary of the Trump administration. I think of a congressman
Speaker 2: from New Jersey, last name is Drew D. R. E
Speaker 2: W who was a Democrat, now he's a Republican. So
Speaker 2: this was Elon Musk in a recent interview, talking about
Speaker 2: realizing that changing his political identity had a price. This
Speaker 2: is cut number four rob cut number four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I used to be adored by the left,
Speaker 3: not less, so.
Speaker 1: I mean less I really did it.
Speaker 3: I mean this whole sort of like, you know, it's
Speaker 3: like Trump durration syndrome, and I don't you know, you
Speaker 3: don't realize how realness is until like it's you can't
Speaker 3: reason with people. So like I was at a friend's
Speaker 3: birthday party in Ali, his birthday dinner, and there was
Speaker 3: like a nice quiet dinner and everything was everyone was
Speaker 3: behaving normally. And then I happened to mention this is
Speaker 3: before the election, like a month or two before, after
Speaker 3: mention the president's name, and it was like they got
Speaker 3: shot with a dart in the jugular that contained like methamphetamine,
Speaker 3: and Raby's okay, wow, And I'm like, what is Guys
Speaker 3: Like you can't have like a normal conversation and it's
Speaker 3: like it's like that to become completely irrational.
Speaker 2: So that is Trump that rather, that's Musk explaining his
Speaker 2: own experience. So my question to all of you, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna learn much more about Elon Musk, and he's
Speaker 2: either going to become an outcast and an utter an
Speaker 2: abysmal failure at working within Washington, putting aside his prior successes,
Speaker 2: or he's going to change some very fundamental aspects of
Speaker 2: Washington and the minds of some I'm a hero and
Speaker 2: the minds of others a villain. I hate to put
Speaker 2: it in those black and white terms, but I want
Speaker 2: to hear from you. What are your thoughts about Elon Muskin.
Speaker 2: I just want to get a sense of my audience.
Speaker 2: Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Is he I'll give you.
Speaker 2: I'll give you three choices. Is he a hero for
Speaker 2: what he's doing? Or is he a villain for what
Speaker 2: he's doing? Or he is is he an enigma? And
Speaker 2: do you think it's still too early to to figure
Speaker 2: out what the what his end game is? Those are
Speaker 2: the choices hero, villain, enigma Elon musk six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: He is at the center of the action right now,
Speaker 2: he calling it appears to me all the shots Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is maybe the puppet master. I don't know. I'd
Speaker 2: like to know how you explain the relationship. We'll be
Speaker 2: back on nightside. Let's light these phone calls up and
Speaker 2: let's talk from now on to midnight about none other
Speaker 2: than Elon Musk. Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios. I'm dumbs News Radio.
Speaker 2: Either way. Rob was just dealing with some caller who
Speaker 2: wasn't making a lot of sense, and that call is
Speaker 2: I can't go on the air. But Rob was saying, well,
Speaker 2: what do you want to say? Oh heart whatever, he
Speaker 2: didn't want to go on the air. If you don't
Speaker 2: want to go on the air, don't bother Rob, folks,
Speaker 2: Rob job Rob's job is to help you get comfortable
Speaker 2: and get on the air. Okay, It's like that's what
Speaker 2: his job is, So don't don't make job Rob's job,
Speaker 2: which is a tough job any more difficult. Six one
Speaker 2: four ten thirty. Got one line there if you want
Speaker 2: to get in easily six one seven nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty, it's a pretty simple question, Elon Musk, in
Speaker 2: your mind, hero villain, I'll give you a third one
Speaker 2: enigma if you if you still got figure it out, okay.
Speaker 2: And it's no right or wrong answer. I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: just asking, as we say. Jeffree is in waldam, Jeffrey,
Speaker 2: welcome back. Haven't talked to you in a while here
Speaker 2: on nights time. Yeah a while, and yes, not my fault,
Speaker 2: Not my fault, jeff I'm here for you every night.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead.
Speaker 4: I know you are, and I much appreciated. Now you
Speaker 4: gave me free options, hero, villain or enigma. I'd like
Speaker 4: to orfer a fourth option.
Speaker 2: Good for you, that's Prey. I love you, I've encourage you.
Speaker 4: It is hazard ha Okay, and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 4: It looks to me that mister Trump is beholden to
Speaker 4: mister Musk for his presidency. And I think that we
Speaker 4: know why, you know, multi million dollar contributions to the
Speaker 4: campaign and et cetera, et cetera. Probably some promises. May
Speaker 4: I'm speculating here about other promises. Okay. The problem that
Speaker 4: as I see it, is this, we have an unelected individual. Okay,
Speaker 4: and even if we had an elected individual, but it's
Speaker 4: worse that he's unelected given uh, just a just a
Speaker 4: wide wide swap of arbitrary power without accountability, okay. To me,
Speaker 4: in principals, that represents a recipe potentially for political hell.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me run a couple of a couple
Speaker 2: of things by you here. Okay, when Franklin Roosevelt was president,
Speaker 2: when wood Row Wilson was president, it is believed that
Speaker 2: they both had some some physical or cognitive disabilities in
Speaker 2: some form of fashion.
Speaker 4: Well polio and not even talking about no, I'm not
Speaker 4: talking just about polio.
Speaker 2: The idea was that missus Roosevelt and missus Wilson at
Speaker 2: some points actually were making decisions. There have been books
Speaker 2: written about that.
Speaker 4: I think it's more so in the case of missus Wilson.
Speaker 2: But you know, there have been books written also whether
Speaker 2: or not Nancy Reagan had Now, again, these are the
Speaker 2: spouses of duly elected presidents. There are certainly Franklin Roosevelt
Speaker 2: had what was called his kitchen cabinet. They were not
Speaker 2: a cabinet that was approved by the U. S. Senate.
Speaker 2: But every president has advisors, uh and and and relies
Speaker 2: upon upon others. I believe. I think that there's a
Speaker 2: fairly rich history here. Everything that Musk is doing is
Speaker 2: out in the open, with the the impromter of the
Speaker 2: guy that got elected president.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, I remember, I remember, I'm just.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to Jeff, give you a couple of
Speaker 2: counter presidents.
Speaker 4: I understand that.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, let me give you one more and
Speaker 2: then I'll listen. Bill Richardson, the former a governor of
Speaker 2: New Mexico, has been dispatched by several residents to negotiate
Speaker 2: on behalf to do sort of like secret negotiations to
Speaker 2: get Americans released from various and sundry countries around the world,
Speaker 2: including North Korea. It's it happens. It happens. But I
Speaker 2: understand the point you're making, but it's not unprecedented.
Speaker 4: I see what you're saying. But do you see I
Speaker 4: don't know as long. And first of all, I think
Speaker 4: a key concept here is out in the open. What
Speaker 4: we don't want is co wort power being wielded, especially
Speaker 4: arbitrary power without accountability to the public, which really is
Speaker 4: erosive toward our democratic processes and institutions.
Speaker 2: Well, right, this is this is not covert. This is
Speaker 2: this is very significant. I mean, on a scale of significance,
Speaker 2: this dwarfs what what I can think of anyone else.
Speaker 2: But in terms of openness, I mean, this is kind
Speaker 2: of out there in your face.
Speaker 4: I think you know very much for the better, but
Speaker 4: there may be some influence being willed that is not
Speaker 4: so open, Okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, arguably you could say that that by being
Speaker 2: this close to the president and being this much of
Speaker 2: a uh an emissary or whatever whatever word you want
Speaker 2: to use, that must now will probably any dealings that
Speaker 2: his companies have with the government will be scrutinized, even
Speaker 2: even more so. I don't know, I don't know you're
Speaker 2: going to say, you're going to you're going to characterize
Speaker 2: him as a hazard. I threw out hero villain. We
Speaker 2: now have a fourth term hazard. That's Jeff's true.
Speaker 4: That's correct.
Speaker 2: Let's see how many people agree with you.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Well, say you dandy time.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jeff. They'll be a stranger. Thanks, my friend. Talk
Speaker 2: to you soon, hope all as well. By the way,
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to you in a long time.
Speaker 4: It's been a while. It's refracting to talk again. Bye,
Speaker 4: good night.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Dave in San Antonio, Texas. Dave,
Speaker 2: you were next on Nightside Elon Musk, hero, villain, enigma
Speaker 2: or hazard.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Dave, Well, I would like to redefine the
Speaker 4: word hero is just simply a very intelligent advisor. I
Speaker 4: think Elon muskis and uh, and I think that he's
Speaker 4: bringing to light a lot of facts that find a
Speaker 4: lot of people in Washington, ZC. Very uncomfortable, and they
Speaker 4: don't like those facts being revealed to America. And they're
Speaker 4: very offended to the fact that we see how they've
Speaker 4: mishandled social Security and will be offended. They'll be very
Speaker 4: offended when we find out how they mishandled the I
Speaker 4: R S. And we.
Speaker 2: Hold on just for one second, Dave, I haven't I've
Speaker 2: seen some statements that Elon Musk has made, but I
Speaker 2: haven't seen the factual backup yet. So when you say
Speaker 2: they're going to be you think social Security has been offended,
Speaker 2: has been handled poorly, I should say, is that based
Speaker 2: upon what Musk has said or based upon your own instincts.
Speaker 4: You're well, based upon my own instincts and what But
Speaker 4: what Musk has said.
Speaker 2: Well, is he said that that that you that you're
Speaker 2: referring to.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm referring to six point five million people
Speaker 4: one hundred and twelve years older or social Security.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that has been discounted and there have been some
Speaker 2: very interesting.
Speaker 4: I understand that that there will be a lot of
Speaker 4: people calling it false. But I for I'm sticking with Musk,
Speaker 4: And when he says.
Speaker 2: That's fine, Dave, I would not try to dissuade you
Speaker 2: from that. All I would say is that if that
Speaker 2: claim is true, I mean, if he said there were
Speaker 2: sixty five people or six hundred and fifty people who
Speaker 2: were taking who were getting so security checks, I I
Speaker 2: would say, let me see about that. But when he's
Speaker 2: the figure you quoted was six point five million, that is,
Speaker 2: if it's true, I mean, that will be the greatest
Speaker 2: secret in the history of this country since I guess
Speaker 2: the atomic bomb at the end of World War Two.
Speaker 4: I just see how they kept beverage. Did you see
Speaker 4: where they're keeping the records. Yes, it looks like in a.
Speaker 2: Mine in what was a mine in Western God saw that.
Speaker 2: But it's a pretty nice location. Have you Did you
Speaker 2: see the interior of it. It's all air conditioned, very
Speaker 2: nicely appointed, nicely appointed. I had a at wisht. I
Speaker 2: had a basement which looked as as neat and clean
Speaker 2: as that I got. Like, I have two or three
Speaker 2: flau cabinets and they look nothing like that.
Speaker 4: When you talk about how you're sticking up for the
Speaker 4: Jewish people and all that. Your dad fought World War
Speaker 4: two and you're a Roman Catholic. I'm Roman Catholic. My
Speaker 4: dad fought World War Two. You're sticking up for my
Speaker 4: dad's people.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that absolutely. All right, David, I appreciate you
Speaker 2: your calling the show. We will talk. Let us see.
Speaker 2: I mean when that if, if that proves to be true,
Speaker 2: if that proves to be true, that is the biggest
Speaker 2: biggest story of the last ten years or the last twenty. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so let's say, Okay, you got it. So you're putting
Speaker 2: them down as a hero. I'm guessing right.
Speaker 4: I respect the man's intelligence. Some guy I ever knew
Speaker 4: it could take a rocket, send it to the up
Speaker 4: to the space and bring it back down and land
Speaker 4: it where he wants to land it. I can't believe
Speaker 4: he did that, but he did it.
Speaker 2: Not bad, not bad. I think they do that with magnets,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. Only kidding, only kidding, Dave, talk
Speaker 2: to you later. Have a good one. Good night, don't
Speaker 2: good night. Coming back on Nightside. We got the news
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour, only one line six, one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty elon Musk, hero villain, enigma, or as Jeff said,
Speaker 2: hazard coming back after this on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling here. But that was a
Speaker 2: quick newscast. Let me go to Scott in seekonk. Hey, Scott,
Speaker 2: welcome next on Nightside. How are you sir?
Speaker 4: Good evening, Dan, Thank you for taking my call. I've
Speaker 4: spoken a couple of times to you, a longtime listener.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I'd like to add another category to your list there.
Speaker 4: I would like to add dictatorship. They think dictators like
Speaker 4: and Hitler they belong in that category is where they belong,
Speaker 4: both of them. And she's listening because that's the way
Speaker 4: we're going. I'm being a little extreme, but I have
Speaker 4: to get it out there to get it off my chest.
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm glad you know something that this is
Speaker 2: anything that I can do to get people off off
Speaker 2: the chest. And and obviously what you said is very interesting.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with it, but but you have every
Speaker 2: right on this program to express your opinion, whether I
Speaker 2: agree with it or not. Your opinion is most important
Speaker 2: when you call. So I don't see it that way.
Speaker 2: To be really honest with you, I have an incredible
Speaker 2: amount of faith uh in the in the way this
Speaker 2: country is structured. Uh And And I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 2: telling you what I truly believe, okay, And and I
Speaker 2: think that the pendulum swings in this country. My my
Speaker 2: next question is going to be who's the next leader
Speaker 2: of the Democrat Party. The Democratic Party right now.
Speaker 4: Is in shambles, I understand, But I just say to
Speaker 4: the country to beware of technology. Beware of technology is
Speaker 4: the last thing I'm going to say, and I'll leave
Speaker 4: it at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm complimenting you. I'm telling you that that I
Speaker 2: think is always an admonition that we should be aware of.
Speaker 2: I'm that guy who doesn't like to go through the
Speaker 2: automatic line at the grocery store. I am beware of technology.
Speaker 2: I like to talk to the clerk.
Speaker 4: You know. I agree with you, Okay, because as.
Speaker 2: Wonderful as those as wonderful as those those little machines,
Speaker 2: though those kiosks are, they put people out of out
Speaker 2: of jobs, and that's not good. I want to see
Speaker 2: people working, So I'm bad. We can agree.
Speaker 4: Thank you for your time, Dan.
Speaker 2: Scott, do me a favorite I need you avoid more often.
Speaker 2: I mean that seriously, I want to hear.
Speaker 4: I want to hear about once a year. I really do.
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta you gotta find more friends who will
Speaker 2: call up and help represent your point of view. I
Speaker 2: mean that seriously. I want this program truly to have
Speaker 2: all points of view represented in relatively equal amounts. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm thank you very much, Thank you, my friend, talk
Speaker 2: to you soon. Okay, let's keep rolling here. Six what
Speaker 2: only line six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: That is my plea I want. If you're listening to
Speaker 2: this program and you disagree with what people are saying,
Speaker 2: oh with what I'm saying, this program is for you, Okay,
Speaker 2: it is. It is intended to be an exchange of ideas. Period.
Speaker 2: I have some ideas, and I express my ideas and
Speaker 2: I don't back off those ideas, and I upset people
Speaker 2: on both sides with my my ideas. But that's okay.
Speaker 2: Let's go next to Jamie in Wooster. Jamie, welcome, How
Speaker 2: are you? How much snow you get out there in Worcester?
Speaker 5: At this point we got actually nothing right now. It's
Speaker 5: it's all ice though. It's like an ice.
Speaker 2: Cream okay, yeah, bring your ice skates to work week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what you think it's what you got ice? No,
Speaker 5: we can't buy rock salt. I go everywhere I went
Speaker 5: for my eighty year old, yeah, to buy rock salt.
Speaker 5: I couldn't find rock salt anywhere.
Speaker 2: You know what they say the time to buy rock
Speaker 2: salt is in September.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh you should get him some rock salt because
Speaker 5: I thought we were getting a storm on Thursday. But
Speaker 5: now we'll get a report and I think it's gonna
Speaker 5: pass us.
Speaker 2: So we're that they're saying, yeah, this sand's going to
Speaker 2: go to the south, but hopefully you can find something.
Speaker 5: Because I couldn't find any rock salt anywhere. And I
Speaker 5: made like I have my day off today and I
Speaker 5: went to like five different stores that couldn't fry rock salt.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's that's a frustrating feeling. So let's talk about
Speaker 2: Elon musk Haro villain, hazard, uh enigma, dictator I.
Speaker 5: Call a hero, but I'm confused at why people are
Speaker 5: mad at him for like exposing all the things that
Speaker 5: we're wasting money on it, you know, like Iraqi transgender
Speaker 5: sufsame street thing.
Speaker 4: And stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I'm like, what, what's wrong with this guy? He's he's
Speaker 5: actually pointing out some problems we have. Well, spending money.
Speaker 5: I don't want to spend that.
Speaker 4: Money on that.
Speaker 5: If I knew that, I wouldn't, you know, as a taxpayer,
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have spent that money on it.
Speaker 2: So well, it was funny. I was. I was listening
Speaker 2: to Bill Maher recently, and I want to play that.
Speaker 2: This is a kind of Bill Maher. I want you
Speaker 2: to react to this. Okay, Okay, yes, this is Bill
Speaker 2: Maher who is no fan of Donald Trump. Cut two
Speaker 2: cut to please. What do you think of his last
Speaker 2: the first two weeks in office?
Speaker 4: What are you think?
Speaker 6: There are some things, Well, I said before he took office,
Speaker 6: I would not pre hate anything. Now that he's in there,
Speaker 6: there's some things I hate, and there's some things I
Speaker 6: don't hate.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, it's.
Speaker 6: A breath of fresh air as far as like we're
Speaker 6: gonna look at things in a way we've never looked
Speaker 6: at it before, Like maybe Gaza doesn't have to be
Speaker 6: this utter hellhole where the people are constantly attacking Israel
Speaker 6: and they are themselves constantly being attacked by this terrorist organization.
Speaker 6: That runs them like a mafia. Maybe you know, it's
Speaker 6: a beautiful area on the beach. Maybe it could be
Speaker 6: more like Dubai. Okay, it's great to think about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, your your reactions to Bill Maher certainly no supportive
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, seems to be willing to at least
Speaker 2: give a look.
Speaker 5: Right. Well, that's a good thing. And I think you know,
Speaker 5: if you get no opposite too, well, we're trying to
Speaker 5: we're trying to combine. Everybody will be on the same page.
Speaker 5: So if some sides can coincide with some of the objectives,
Speaker 5: that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: You know who, I mean who who was in favor
Speaker 2: of waste or fraud? I don't think that anybody a democratic.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize we were spending that much money on
Speaker 5: a transgender unless we would never know that unless this
Speaker 5: Dodge thing was created, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing, by the way, which just to
Speaker 2: support you, that I'd like to mention, is that I
Speaker 2: heard Bill Maher and again I heard him at some
Speaker 2: point I think today I was just roaming the internet
Speaker 2: and he was talking about some report from the GAO,
Speaker 2: the Government Accounting Office, which is you know, not a
Speaker 2: Trump agency. But a couple of years ago they had
Speaker 2: estimated that fraud This was the GAOS estimate that fraud
Speaker 2: or waste or whatever was anywhere between every year two
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one and five hundred and fifty one
Speaker 2: billion dollars. I mean, just an incredible amount of money.
Speaker 2: And and Okay, so now if it's going to get
Speaker 2: pointed out and maybe we can eliminate it, that's not
Speaker 2: a bad thing. I mean that that money can go
Speaker 2: to causes that.
Speaker 5: The Democrats or Leba is protesting him because he's laying
Speaker 5: up of packs that were wasting money on certain things,
Speaker 5: and you know, and we got to cut that out,
Speaker 5: and they don't like that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. All of us pay taxes, and
Speaker 2: none of us I don't like paying taxes anymore than
Speaker 2: I'm sure you like paying taxes. But it's, as someone
Speaker 2: once said, taxes are the cost of civilization. Okay, fine,
Speaker 2: I'm willing to pay my fair share. I'm willing to pay.
Speaker 2: I pay substantially more than my fair share, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: but I don't mind that. But I want my taxes
Speaker 2: to go and support a strong military. I want my
Speaker 2: taxes to support a safety net for people who really
Speaker 2: need some help, because that could be me someday, or
Speaker 2: it could be a member of my family. I don't
Speaker 2: want my tax money going to fraud or waste or
Speaker 2: supporting stuff that the government should not be supporting. How
Speaker 2: radical is that point of view?
Speaker 5: No, I agree, Yes, I want my money to go
Speaker 5: there too. I'm like, yeah, well, if I'm gonna give
Speaker 5: my money to the government, they're better go to some
Speaker 5: good causes. You know, you got it, you're cutting uh
Speaker 5: singing Iraq?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's some of that stuff. Now again, I
Speaker 2: watch I read the Washington Post and they did some
Speaker 2: fact checking on it, and they said that some of
Speaker 2: the I think the Trump White House Communications Department has
Speaker 2: to tighten up a little bit, and they have to
Speaker 2: be very because every time they say this is a
Speaker 2: program seven million dollars to do X and it's wrong
Speaker 2: or it's overstated, they're gonna get jumped out.
Speaker 5: They need to be I want to go. I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get my information correct for the news,
Speaker 5: but when I hear this kind of stuff, it just
Speaker 5: like goes up my skin. You know, is true?
Speaker 2: Well, I hear you if you listen to night Side.
Speaker 2: I will promise you I will try to edit and
Speaker 2: uh and check it out. That's kind of my job.
Speaker 2: I mean when when David san Antonio mentioned.
Speaker 5: I want to get the fact straight, you.
Speaker 2: Know, well, I'll try to do it no matter which
Speaker 2: way it breaks, particularly in terms of facts. My opinions
Speaker 2: could be all over the block. But anything that I
Speaker 2: represent to you as a fact is going to be
Speaker 2: a fact that I will have checked out. That's my pledge.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, great, great, thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that a whole lot. Thanks Jamie. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 2: Have a great one.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go, let's keep rolling. Going to
Speaker 2: go to Christine in Denim. Christine, welcome back.
Speaker 4: How are you good?
Speaker 7: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm fine. Still a little cold man. It's cold out,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 7: It's cold. It is really cold. I can't take this anymore.
Speaker 2: Just hang in there for a couple of weeks. I
Speaker 2: think they're saying it might get above thirty two over
Speaker 2: the weekend. I don't know how about that. Yeah, bikini
Speaker 2: weather at that point. Beach beach party, beach beach party, bingo. Right,
Speaker 2: So what do you what do you think about Elon
Speaker 2: Musk hero villain, dictator but enigma.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, yeah, I just don't I know, he hasn't
Speaker 7: been voted in. I don't know why he's making all
Speaker 7: these decisions. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess he's being he's given the authority
Speaker 2: to make him by the guy that was voted in.
Speaker 2: That's that's what the guy that's voted him in would argue.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't like that. I really don't. Yeah, whatever happened
Speaker 7: to us voting for who we voted for and not
Speaker 7: who we didn't vote off. That's not right.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I got I agree with you on that,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to just say that when when you
Speaker 2: watch the campaign, there were plenty of times when Donald
Speaker 2: Trump had Elon Musk up on stage. So I don't
Speaker 2: think it's a surprise that Elon Musk has access to
Speaker 2: the Oval Office.
Speaker 4: I know, I don't know.
Speaker 7: How that's happening. I really don't.
Speaker 2: Well, he was a big supporter of Donald Trump. They cast,
Speaker 2: they they teamed up a little bit. You know, I
Speaker 2: look at Robert Kennedy. Whoever would have thought of that.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting mix that Trump has somehow been able
Speaker 2: to pull together Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, these were people
Speaker 2: who hated Trump.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm wondering today, is that what happened. Did
Speaker 7: they turn on the Kennedys all of a sudden, this
Speaker 7: happened today. It's because of Robert, That's what I'm trying
Speaker 7: to figure out.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I think here's what I
Speaker 2: think happened today. And I can't prove this. I think
Speaker 2: somebody said nope, for the best. I'm as far as
Speaker 2: I could tell all the networks reporters today that the
Speaker 2: JFK Library was the only library that closed. The closed
Speaker 2: at two o'clock this afternoon. It will reopen tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: It could be that someone inside the JFK Library misinterpreted
Speaker 2: some message they got from the National Archives, which in
Speaker 2: effect is responsible to the JFK Library. A dumb somebody
Speaker 2: made a dumb decision. Yeah, thank thank god, it'll be
Speaker 2: open tomorrow. It's a beautiful it's a beautiful facility. I've
Speaker 2: been there many many times, and uh, I always look,
Speaker 2: you've been there.
Speaker 7: Too, Yes, I've been there a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, always worth, always worth the visit. Christine, I
Speaker 2: got a scowed. I got pack lines here, which is great,
Speaker 2: and I thank you so much for calling. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for your loyalty and your friendship. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Talk to you. Welcome, Are you too? Right back at you,
Speaker 2: talk to you soon. Good night. All right, we're gonna
Speaker 2: wrap it up. On the other side, I got Mike, John, Mike,
Speaker 2: and Jeff. We'll try to get you all in. I
Speaker 2: promise we'll be back right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 1: Night Side Studios on w b Z the news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's try to get everybody in. Mike and Topsfield, Mike,
Speaker 2: you next night's talking about Elon Musko. Ahead, Mike, gotta
Speaker 2: put Mike on hold. If he's not ready, we'll put
Speaker 2: him on hold. Let's go next to John and Boxton.
Speaker 2: John talking about Elon Musk. Go ahead, John.
Speaker 4: They said Elon Muskin is an amazing talent. He's almost
Speaker 4: like an Aristotle. I don't know if people realize what
Speaker 4: he's done for the country, but his host star lague
Speaker 4: system has allowed communications through around the world, and the
Speaker 4: Democrats loved him until he bought Twitter and he wanted
Speaker 4: free speech. He risked billions of dollars buy in Twitter,
Speaker 4: and they got kicked off at him because that exposed
Speaker 4: a fifty one intelligence agents were lying about the hundred
Speaker 4: byte laptop. And that's why the Democrats really got upset
Speaker 4: at least Elon Musk, because he wanted free speech where
Speaker 4: a country has founded on free speech, just like we're
Speaker 4: speaking now, Dad, and Elon Musk is now just turning
Speaker 4: over stones finding out where the waste is. Why would
Speaker 4: anybody in their right mind be upset about that? Just
Speaker 4: trillions of dollars If Donald Trump was on Sean Harry's
Speaker 4: eyes man about four trillion dollars.
Speaker 2: Without I've said this to you before, John, I know
Speaker 2: you've heard me say it. I'm not interested in publicizing
Speaker 2: other shows on my program. If you want to talk
Speaker 2: about what you heard, that's fine that I'm not here
Speaker 2: to publicize any other broadcast affiliate, any other broadcast station,
Speaker 2: any other broadcast personality.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, I just want to give you the source.
Speaker 4: Bottom line. Our government was giving two hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: million dollars to the Taliban, and they were buying passports
Speaker 4: for guys down South America to come across the border.
Speaker 4: Now he is Chris Fettis is a sealed team.
Speaker 2: And again once once I see you know it. Look
Speaker 2: this waste and abuse. But I you're putting stuff out.
Speaker 2: I have no excuse me, John, John, if you could,
Speaker 2: if you would, if you would permit me to You're
Speaker 2: putting information out on my radio program that I do
Speaker 2: not know the source of. Okay, and and and therefore
Speaker 2: just the fact that it's mentioned but in some other
Speaker 2: radio station or some other talk show or some other
Speaker 2: website doesn't make it fact. That's all I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 2: I mean you and I I just I don't know
Speaker 2: the source of what you're saying. You can tell me
Speaker 2: there's a twenty alarm fire tonight in in you know,
Speaker 2: in Manitoba, Canada. I don't know that, and therefore I
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about that. I mean, I'm asking,
Speaker 2: how do you what do you consider? Do you consider
Speaker 2: Elon Musk a hero or a villain?
Speaker 4: That's all he did. He risks so much. But they
Speaker 4: were they were talking about putting him in jail when
Speaker 4: he bought Twitter. They were upset he risked so much
Speaker 4: by doing that. And if if if they were threatened
Speaker 4: to putting him in jail, he lost. He still hasn't
Speaker 4: made a profit on as far as I know, on Twitter,
Speaker 4: and he kept free speech open in the United States.
Speaker 4: That one thing alone.
Speaker 2: Dan no on that that that is a public record.
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. And there was a
Speaker 2: period of time when Twitter was not as open and
Speaker 2: accessible as it is now. So just leave it there
Speaker 2: at that, and as they say, we will, we'll talk
Speaker 2: on other issues on another time. But I hope you understand.
Speaker 2: I just people call up all the time. John, It's
Speaker 2: just not you. They'll call up and say, well, you
Speaker 2: know this happened or that happened, or I heard this
Speaker 2: on this show, and you know I'm on the air
Speaker 2: for four hour reason. I get I get that people don't.
Speaker 2: You might listen to other broadcasts, which is fine, but
Speaker 2: just when you cite stuff that's factual from other shows,
Speaker 2: it's it's very disruptive to me because I have because
Speaker 2: people who were listening, they're gonna say, well, I heard
Speaker 2: it and Dan ray that the Martians have landed, and
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 4: I was just giving the source.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I just yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: Know our government funding terrorist groups that was the source
Speaker 4: for But it's there are others also, it's it's not
Speaker 4: the bottom line.
Speaker 2: I think I think that some look. I think that
Speaker 2: there was was usaid money that maybe was sent to
Speaker 2: certain countries, including Afghanistan, which was intended theoretically for a
Speaker 2: noble purpose. But because Afghanistan is controlled by bad actors,
Speaker 2: they didn't allow that money to go to the sisters
Speaker 2: of the poor. They took that money for themselves, you know,
Speaker 2: So there was a little bit naivetay maybe, or maybe
Speaker 2: there was intentional naivete We'll figure it out. Thanks, John,
Speaker 2: I always appreciate you.
Speaker 4: They're just starting to grass the service. They can't wait
Speaker 4: the final one.
Speaker 2: Let's say, well, let's see what happened. So let's see
Speaker 2: what happens. John, I got to get one more Rin.
Speaker 2: Thank you, mich appreciate you call. Have a great night.
Speaker 2: Let me go finally to Mike and Beverly. Mike, you's
Speaker 2: gonna wrap up kind of a raucous hour. Here, go
Speaker 2: right ahead, Mike.
Speaker 8: Hey, Dan, how I've listen to it.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 8: I'm all for you. Like last call and talked about
Speaker 8: Elon Musk. I don't understand it. People, listen, Donald Trump
Speaker 8: is the secatur of the Office he can hire and
Speaker 8: fire who he wants. And Elon Musk is an employee
Speaker 8: of the federal government. He's an assistant, so that I don't.
Speaker 2: Think he's I don't think Mike, technically he is an employee.
Speaker 2: In order to be an employee of the federal government,
Speaker 2: he would have to be accepting a check for his services.
Speaker 2: As far as I know, he is not an employee.
Speaker 2: He is simply acting almost as a volunteer assistant.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I don't I listened to the White House
Speaker 8: Press secondary today. Gave her a description today, so that's
Speaker 8: that's what she said today. So I know you're gonna
Speaker 8: get yell at me for saying this. So you know
Speaker 8: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Go no, no, if you want, if you want to quote,
Speaker 2: if you want to tell me that you heard, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna yell at you. If you're going to tell
Speaker 2: me that you heard the White House Press secretary say X,
Speaker 2: and that's an accurate reflection of a White House Press secretary.
Speaker 2: I don't think that Elon Musk as an employee. It
Speaker 2: would want to be an employee of the federal government
Speaker 2: because that then would give the federal government an opportunity
Speaker 2: to delve very deeply into his financial affairs, and I
Speaker 2: don't think even Elon Musk would want to sacrifice that.
Speaker 2: But we'll see. One of us will be right, one
Speaker 2: of us will be wrong. And if I find out
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I will I will mention it on the
Speaker 2: ear prominently. You know that, Okay, Yeah, I get.
Speaker 8: I just don't know why people are in a freakout
Speaker 8: all because I came home with Bill Clinton and Obama
Speaker 8: tried to have those years ago. It wasn't okay then.
Speaker 8: But I ain't gotta go so all right, I.
Speaker 2: Gotta go call earlier. Give you more time for the night, everybody,
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