WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:26.239 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper. 2 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:28.239 I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a great show 3 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.000 planned for you tonight. You'll know my next guest from 4 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:35.079 her appearances on such websites as Scoreland and milf dot com. 5 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:37.079 You can find links to all of our social media 6 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:39.640 in the episode description below, or you can go to 7 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:42.920 the Victoria Veil dot com. I also want to recommend 8 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:47.000 her only fans at Victoria Veil. Ladies and gentlemen join 9 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:50.560 me in welcoming the vivacious Victoria Veil. Victoria. How are 10 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:51.000 you tonight? 11 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:53.079 I'm too fantastic. How are you doing? 12 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:57.840 Not bad? Not bad at all? So your look is 13 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:02.159 a craft did one I believe? Is that correct? 14 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:04.120 That's funny? All right? 15 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:09.400 I uh, I can't. Shall we say beautiful? Don't get 16 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:11.200 me wrong. I don't want I don't want that to 17 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:14.159 be taken as a negative. It is. I mean, doctors 18 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:14.879 do great work. 19 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.359 I'll be great natural hands. It can I'll be fun. 20 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:22.319 There you go. What First off, let let's talk about 21 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.239 your style, yourr I hate to say look. I don't 22 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:28.920 mean just look, I mean everything about what you bring 23 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:32.480 to this industry, Like what is your style. What's your brand? 24 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:35.079 Are you? Go ahead, I'll let you answer, and then 25 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:37.280 maybe I'll throw out a few terms or things I've 26 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:38.640 heard and see if they apply to you. 27 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:43.280 Yeah, I mean, surely milk anything milk related. I'm definitely 28 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:51.840 that genre busty, I would say, well, full chested. I 29 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.159 think that I gravitate towards sort of like a nineties aesthetic, 30 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:59.480 you know. I love that kind of like nineties Playboy 31 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:03.359 house kind of lamb. Look. I think that's at least 32 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:07.760 I aspire to do. I love Lahel's you know, thigh 33 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:11.759 highs garters, very much like dressing for sex, that sort 34 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:12.120 of thing. 35 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:17.360 So that's definitely I definitely Okay, I'm thirty six years old. 36 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:21.879 So I was, you know, nine to ten when Baywatch 37 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:26.120 was coming out and I saw you and I went, oh, 38 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:31.280 she's doing a Pam Anderson and she's doing it. Well, 39 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:34.520 what was it about? Was it that time? That era 40 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:36.520 that I mean, does it go back as far as 41 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:38.639 like a Jane Mansfield thing that you love? 42 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.360 That? Absolutely? I mean I love that kind of glamor too. 43 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:43.960 I think just because that was like the era that 44 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.599 I grew up in, a chem of age. I guess 45 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.039 like a maturity in that era. I think that's just 46 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:57.039 look that I associate with sexiness and sexuality. But absolutely 47 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:02.120 I love Jeane Mansfield, Marilyn Monroe, all of that kind 48 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:06.919 of fifties sixties pin up sort of look, which I 49 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:08.719 think is similar. They sort of brought it back maybe 50 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:11.560 in the nineties and put a little difference, but very similar. 51 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:13.759 Well, I was gonna say at one point in the 52 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:16.240 nine maybe it was the nineties, maybe it was the 53 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:20.639 early two thousands, when was the the Kate Moss like 54 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:24.240 heroin Chic law when everyone was like, oh my god, 55 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:28.280 Kate got down to seventy two pounds, isn't that great? Uh, 56 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:33.599 that just wasn't for me, I heard, Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, 57 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.599 that's what they call it. Heroin chic. It personally, I 58 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.439 need some kind of curves, I need something. I mean, oh, 59 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:44.319 I feel the same, right. It just it to me. 60 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.199 It fills out a figure more. It makes a dress 61 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:51.319 like a that. I've had debates with my friends before 62 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:57.319 on you know, natural versus enhanced breasts, right, and some 63 00:03:57.400 --> 00:03:59.280 of them go, I don't like the feeling. I don't 64 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.560 like this, this that, whatever, whatever your opinion on the 65 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:06.360 feel or anything. There is nothing more phenomenal in address 66 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:11.199 than just a perfect set of dits, right, I mean, 67 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:12.560 can we just be honest. 68 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:14.439 Like really, whether they're natural or enhanced. 69 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:16.439 I mean, oh, sure, as long as. 70 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:20.199 They're they're vague and I'm going to push up and 71 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:23.040 filling out the dress properly. 72 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:27.480 Absolutely that that's true. But the one thing you really 73 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:31.800 get with with with the enhanced chest is you can 74 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:33.680 almost I don't know, I have a little click of 75 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:39.199 OCD in my head, the perfect symmetry and roundness, right, right. 76 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.160 So some of those terms I said I would throw 77 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.040 out at you that I was wondering. Now, look, here's 78 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.680 the thing. So many of them, and I didn't know 79 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:48.199 if you were going for this because I know this 80 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:50.560 is a style. So many of them felt like they 81 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.879 were insulting to me in the nineties, like the term 82 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:57.720 the term bimbo. Right, Yeah, I was gonna ask, but 83 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:00.519 then part of me clicked and I was like terrified. 84 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:01.959 I'm like, I don't want this lady to think I'm 85 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:02.319 calling her. 86 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:04.920 Oh no, no, no, no, I I don't and I mean 87 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:07.639 I don't, I don't think and used in that context, 88 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:13.839 it's he was in a positive light. I think bimbo 89 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.639 not really in air. And I think it's sort of 90 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:21.240 like a genre of like a cartoonish almost, like you know, 91 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:25.360 justic a rabbit bimbo type. But it's more the look 92 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:29.160 than it is commentary on their intelligence. 93 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:30.920 Right right right When I was a kid, it felt 94 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.959 like it was more commentary on intelligence, like it would 95 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:37.560 be you know, sure, some father saying to his wife, Yeah, 96 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:41.079 she's pretty, but she's a bimbo. Secretly, what was he thinking, uh. 97 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:43.879 Kelly Bundy or something. You know, maybe they would call 98 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.439 a bimbo her fair head. 99 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:50.199 Over sexualized, but maybe not even intentionally doing it. Maybe 100 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:52.560 that was a thing like when Kelly Bundy would come down. 101 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.360 It's a tide of yeah, yes, yeah, yeah yeah. But 102 00:05:55.399 --> 00:06:00.319 it has become like a term or a genre in 103 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:05.680 the industry nowadays that is very popular. People love that look. 104 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.199 And the other term I was going to ask again 105 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.519 if you were emulating, which it seems like you're not. 106 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:13.399 You were just going for what you saw as beauty 107 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.720 and how you present yourself and everything else. And I 108 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:19.360 get that. The other term was sex doll. Have you 109 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:23.240 ever seen like the sex dollar types and those I 110 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:26.480 feel like there's a personality that goes behind that as well, 111 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:27.759 almost like a yeah. 112 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:32.040 Almost. I mean, I'm not I don't wouldn't say that 113 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.639 I was necessarily going for that look. But I'm certainly 114 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:37.480 not offended if somebody uses that term to describe me, 115 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.639 because I know it's meant in a good positive way. 116 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.199 Sure, yeah, so that doesn't bother me. 117 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:45.319 But you're right, it is like a blow up doll 118 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:50.160 sort of look, right, you know, full boobs, full lips. 119 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:52.839 A lot of girls go pretty extreme with the lips 120 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:56.160 in that genre. Also, these are my own lips. 121 00:06:56.160 --> 00:07:00.319 But eh, that's that's my next question too, So let 122 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.639 me ask you, how did you initially come into the 123 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:04.120 adult entertainment industry? 124 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:07.560 You know, I just was on Twitter for a bit 125 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:10.120 and a score. I think you had mentioned in the 126 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:14.680 beginning they're like a big breast magazine and they've been 127 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.240 around for years, and they had approached me about shooting 128 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.519 with them about I would say seven or eight years ago. 129 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:24.959 I think I've been on Twitter about ten total, at 130 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:31.439 least three accounts ago, and I just shot with them once. 131 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:33.560 It was sort of like a bucket list thing. I 132 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:37.279 was working a regular corporate type job and had a 133 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:41.879 pretty normal life really for the first four or five 134 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.240 years that I shot with him, I really wasn't heavily 135 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:46.360 into the industry, the adult industry at all. I just 136 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.720 sort of shot with them once a year pretty consistently. 137 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:52.800 And then about two or three years ago, I just 138 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:55.879 was like, Wow, why not They approached me about doing 139 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.560 hardcore before then, and I had really been hesitant and 140 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:00.639 I'd turned them down a couple of times, and then 141 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:02.759 I just was like, you know what, I'm going to 142 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:05.600 go for it. And I don't want to say the 143 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:08.800 rest is history, but I sat with them, and then 144 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.519 I shot with a few more companies. 145 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:16.480 Sure I can't obviously no details, but what kind of 146 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:22.759 industry were you in corporate wise? Oh? Okay, okay, okay. 147 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:25.839 I always see I always ask because and human resource 148 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:28.759 is a good one too. But it's funny when I 149 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.040 talk to some women who are so successful in this, 150 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.120 and you are very successful in this, and I think 151 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:35.960 you're only going to go even more successful as we go, 152 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.799 because I saw I saw a couple of the things 153 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:41.159 you may have coming up, and I was like, oh, 154 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.399 I mean, there's the rocket ship. I'm glad to gramble 155 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:44.840 on now while you're on the ground. Go ahead, and 156 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:45.480 call if you're good. 157 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:57.480 Sorry, you're flying everywhere. Please, that was probably a mistake. 158 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.159 Geny water or something. I could cut it out. You're 159 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:04.000 totally good, you sure, okay, all right, okay, I'm so sorry. 160 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:08.799 You don't have to it's okay, It's totally fine. One 161 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:11.279 of my greatest joys was I had Sarah J on 162 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:16.080 World is Totally Awesome, and as she took a drink 163 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:19.080 of water, I made a joke and she started and 164 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:22.679 I can I can go the rest of my life saying, 165 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:27.440 I gagged Sarah J. So, I mean that's just that's 166 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:32.120 just I mean, you said yeah, yeah, because there was 167 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:36.000 just too much. I understand, So you were doing hr. 168 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:38.360 What I was saying before was the most successful people 169 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:41.919 in this industry are people who one I think are 170 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.360 people who have worked in marketing, because they obviously can 171 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:45.960 have just turned that around and do it on them. 172 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:48.879 Absolutely, I think the most successful are people who have 173 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:50.679 a lot of marketing experience for sure. 174 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:53.480 For sure. I just spoke to a woman the other 175 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:55.120 day and I told her, I said, if you were 176 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.360 trying to get in this industry and you were intent 177 00:09:57.399 --> 00:10:00.720 on going to college, my recommendation like doing it while 178 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.840 you're in college. My recommendation is get a marketing degree 179 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:08.200 with a minor in photoshop premiere like all the editing stuff. 180 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:10.679 And yeah, because I'm sure even for you, like you 181 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:12.919 know how much time is spent editing. 182 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:17.159 So yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't imagine. I had another 183 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:19.039 performer walk me through her day and it was just 184 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:23.200 hours and hours. And it's funny because there's that angry 185 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:26.840 male in Twitter perception. It's like these women all just 186 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.279 leave regular jobs to go get fucked for an hour 187 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:35.320 and then go, No, your days, No, your day's a 188 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:37.039 lot longer than that, isn't it right? 189 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.840 That is so true. And you know I've said this before, 190 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.759 but I think you know, when people read these articles 191 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.759 about these girls making you know, a one hundred grand 192 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.759 a month or million dollars a month, whatever it is, 193 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.000 they're thinking, oh, it's so easy, and like all they 194 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:54.519 do is like you said, like it's for an hour 195 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:57.679 and then but it's not that. I mean, it is involved, 196 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:01.559 as you know, as you know so and I really 197 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.840 strongly believe that the women who are successful, especially are 198 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.120 very smart business minded people. 199 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:10.840 That you have to be. You go from working a 200 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.159 forty hour job to work in a seventy hour job, 201 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:17.200 you know, absolutely, And but but is the best part 202 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.039 of this that you get to be your own boss. 203 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.240 I mean that is the best and manage your own time, 204 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:25.000 you know. I mean you can decide when you want 205 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:26.759 to get this sone as long as it gets done right. 206 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:29.679 Well, that's an important part because I think the second 207 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:32.559 most successful people are people who have worked in just 208 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:37.000 regular offices. People who understand how to schedule thing, keep 209 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.519 schedules see one hundred percent, how to how to keep 210 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:42.440 you know, track of files. And it sounds like so basic, 211 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.639 but there are so many people there. I've spoken with 212 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.399 newer girls who are coming on who are just i mean, 213 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:54.399 drop dead gorgeous and eighteen nineteen, and they have no 214 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:57.679 interest in updating their only fans like I'll get around 215 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:59.799 to it. No, jumping doesn't work. 216 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:02.759 That way, right because and you just got to keep 217 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:03.519 praying yourself. 218 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:04.960 I feel like a better work. 219 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.519 But I mean, you have to keep everything going and 220 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.240 moving off. Like you said, you know, you constantly have 221 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:14.679 projects you're working on. You have, but the second you 222 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.320 slow down and stop doing it is the second that momentum, 223 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:21.039 that business momentum stops, or at least slows down. 224 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:25.480 Yeah, yeah, your name starts falling out of people's mouths. Yeah, 225 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:29.000 and next time they're gonna go shoot a scene these 226 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:31.679 three people, Victoria is not one of them because blab you. 227 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.120 Know for sure. 228 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.399 So content wise, what kind of content do you like 229 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:40.840 to personally produce for things like your only fans or 230 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:44.399 any of your other sites where you sell content? Is 231 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:48.200 it I saw on some by the way, just so 232 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:51.159 people know only fans at Victoria veil links to everything 233 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:53.159 in the episode description. I'm gonna throw that out a 234 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:57.679 million times. Make sure to what kind of content do 235 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:01.559 you like to produce yourself? Is it mostly solo stuff? 236 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.519 Do you occasionally throw in other people or are they 237 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.080 real beautiful? Is it behind the curtain and kind of 238 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:10.840 just like this is me in my normal day. 239 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.679 Yeah, I mean I get requests for all different types. 240 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:18.639 I think that I enjoy a challenge, I think, and 241 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.039 I love doing customs. I have a few people who 242 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:28.799 really have some very intricate, you know, dialogue and costume 243 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:33.639 requests or out there requests, very very detailed long videos, 244 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:36.559 and I actually I enjoy it. I think it keeps 245 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:41.639 my mind sort of engaged, and I like the challenge 246 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:44.120 but I like, I love a lot of fetish stuff. 247 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.759 I think that I've my eyes have been open to 248 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:51.440 all different types of fetish of course, and it's interesting, 249 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:53.759 you know, every day I feel like I learned something. 250 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.480 So not all industries can you can. 251 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:59.799 Say that for sure? For so your eyes have been 252 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:03.120 open into different fetishes. Now that's not necessarily in your industry, 253 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:07.399 Like trying sushi for the first time. What what? What 254 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:12.240 is something that maybe you never expected you'd even consider 255 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:16.639 that now either you shot something or you're like, I 256 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.960 would take that if that came. Is there anything where 257 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:23.519 you're like corporate Victoria would have been like, oh my god, 258 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:27.519 she's doing that, and porn store Victoria goes, I'm doing that. 259 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:32.399 You know. I would say like some some of the 260 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:36.039 domination kind of stuff, I mean, especially like CIZI play 261 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:38.519 and stuff like that, which I wasn't as well aware 262 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:42.440 of probably when I was working in Corporate America. I 263 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:45.039 would say things like golden showers, or I can say 264 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:46.919 some other things that like maybe I never would have 265 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:49.159 thought I would be asked for. I haven't done it, 266 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:52.919 but yeah, I mean like golden shower stuff. It's just 267 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.679 like a video of me peeing like I suppose I 268 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.360 could consider it, but I don't know. It's just it's 269 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:01.919 one of those things where you sit there and you 270 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:03.919 have to like sort of way like what you're comfortable with? 271 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:07.639 Sure, Sure, and again throw another factor in. You have 272 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.720 to start, uh considering what you're comfortable with and what 273 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:13.279 is best for your brand. 274 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:15.600 Right, absolutely, I'm very well said. 275 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:20.759 Yeah, like if you if you were a total femdom 276 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.720 just total domination blow blah, you can't go shoot a 277 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:27.399 gang bang scene like where you're the one being dominated. Yeah. 278 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:29.840 It's a very good point, and I think it's why 279 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:33.120 I've shied away from doing like a gang bang. I 280 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:36.519 do really I found that I actually really enjoy the 281 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:40.480 domination side of things, which I, like you said, I 282 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:43.159 didn't really think of myself that way, you know, maybe 283 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:46.759 ten years ago, fifteen years ago, but I do consider 284 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:47.440 myself like that. 285 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:51.200 Now. The problem is to get you a latex suit, 286 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.039 they're gonna have to like tie another one around your chest, 287 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.200 you know. Yeah, yeah, you don't want to spend ten 288 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.120 thousand dollars just to shoot one. So if you're going 289 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.480 to go in that lifestyle, you definitely need to say 290 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.720 all in. Yeah. So I mean are you, naturally, in 291 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:10.960 your normal life just somewhat submissive, and are you putting 292 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:13.960 on in a positive way, an actress way, putting on 293 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:16.480 a face for the domination thing, or is it in you? 294 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:18.159 Do you got anger from a guy who cut you 295 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.679 off ten years ago, and every time you're whipping a guy, 296 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:24.960 you're like, fucking Dodge Dodge Stratus cut me off, didn't it. 297 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:27.840 Yeah? I don't feel like I had that kind of anger, 298 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:32.000 I mean normally, But I will say that I find 299 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:35.639 that like being dominated, you know, being like a dominatrix 300 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:40.039 type role makes me feel more powerful, and I think 301 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:43.559 it makes me more confident in other things too. So yeah, 302 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:46.519 I think my normal personality is probably a little bit 303 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.120 more low key, a little bit more laid back. Not 304 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:52.840 really submissive, I would say, but just more relaxed. But 305 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.480 I really I enjoy that sort of ulter ego side 306 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:02.200 of myself when I shoot domination type videos for sure. Sure? 307 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:05.480 Sure? So. Are there any other kings or fetishes you 308 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:09.200 may considered down the road, or has anyone ever sent 309 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.759 you a quest for a custom where you would normally 310 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.319 again be like no, and then you're like, nah, fuck it. 311 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:15.960 I kind of like that I'll do that. 312 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:20.200 Yeah, you know again, like I think I would consider 313 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:24.519 bondage whether I was doing it probably to somebody else. 314 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.079 I think it's so interesting, you know the intricacies of 315 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:31.200 like tying someone up. And I've seen some videos that 316 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.200 are really sort of intriguing, So I think I would 317 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:36.799 like to try something like that. And I've had some 318 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.000 pass for it, a little bit of like spanking or 319 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:42.720 paddling videos like for a guy. I don't I think 320 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:45.160 that probably the old would have said, well, that could 321 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.519 be dangerous, like especially like with the balls the ball area. 322 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:53.640 You know, you wouldn't want to like per someone rupture something. 323 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:00.480 But I'm probably with the right co star that would 324 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:01.039 consider that. 325 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:06.960 Okay, all right, that's fair enough. Request wise, what would 326 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:09.720 you say is like your main request for a custom? 327 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:15.240 Is it stepmom stuff? Is it concentrating on your tits? 328 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.319 Like what is what? Can you go through your inbox 329 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:20.160 and go it's one of those one of those, one 330 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:20.920 of those. 331 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:24.759 It generally will balls around my boobs. So I would 332 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.000 say number one would be like just and it sounds 333 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:32.119 very basic, like tit boiling and various different forms titty fucking. 334 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:38.079 There is forms whether like with the Dildover with costar. Yeah, 335 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:42.920 those are definitely my absolute bikini or like Slinshot Triumphs. 336 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:46.119 That's another one where people have like specific you know, 337 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:49.440 either bikinis or g strings that they want me to wear. 338 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:52.079 Those are definitely my number ones. 339 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.200 When you were in the corporate world, you said there 340 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:59.599 was about a five year overlap right between shootings. Did 341 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.119 anyone ever find anything in your office or anything like that? 342 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.000 Now I'm saying this and I'm in a jingsuit. I 343 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:10.240 like I can't, but yeah, not that I was aware of, 344 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:12.960 but somebody might have seen it and just not said anything. 345 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:13.519 I don't know. 346 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:17.119 See, I'm so fascinated by porn that I wouldn't even 347 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:19.039 want to be a creep about it. I would just 348 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:20.880 want to be like, what was it like on set? 349 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:22.759 And I can't do that. You can't come up and 350 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.039 ask that in a corporate setting. But it's like you might. 351 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:28.359 Started playing that with other girls, Like I just wanted 352 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:32.880 to divine and yet she's like such a person, but 353 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:35.640 like it was just like listening to her stories are 354 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:40.960 so fascinating. You can't like a regular office life. You 355 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:42.640 can't even imagine that that exists. 356 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:46.640 That's not like no, No, not at all. Aviad Divine 357 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:50.799 a classic. She is classic sounds bad. I don't want 358 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:56.039 to sound like that. She's a legend, legend legend for legend. 359 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:58.079 Sweetheart, that's awesome. 360 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:03.039 So do you have perform that you constantly work with 361 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:08.200 that you're comfortable with or do you ever want I mean, 362 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:10.480 obviously you may want to, but do you ever expand 363 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:14.319 out and start seeking out new people or seeking out 364 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.680 new performers or new types of scenes or anything like that. 365 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:22.079 Yeah, well, especially like when it comes to only things. 366 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.359 You know, there's certain times that people want but I 367 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:27.920 would like you to shoot something with a specific type 368 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:31.839 of performer, whether that's like you know, big big tick guy, 369 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:37.400 so you know, it could be like h racially diverse 370 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.400 you know people. Sure, So it depends, I mean, it 371 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:44.559 depends on what I'm doing, request for who I'm you know, 372 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:47.880 who's in town when I'm in town shooting. That makes 373 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:50.839 a big difference. But I do have a few friends 374 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:56.160 with benefits who I fairly regularly or close by. 375 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.000 Okay, all right, fair enough? Have I think I think 376 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:02.440 I know the place where you would clean up the most, 377 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:05.599 and I have not. I don't. I'm not aware if 378 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:08.279 you've done it yet. Have you been at all on 379 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:10.519 a feature dancing circuit yet? 380 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:13.440 Okay, so I would just like to say that I 381 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.920 think that would be amazing. And yeah, I actually did 382 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:22.720 dance like when I was in college, and uh, there 383 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:24.599 were a lot of feature dancers, and I think it 384 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:27.200 would be a fascinating thing. But honestly, like I didn't 385 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:29.200 even think that was a thing anymore really, but then 386 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:31.880 I had I don't know if you've had her on 387 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:38.319 the show with Lindsay Ryder is, Yeah, that's so cool, 388 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:42.720 like she's awesome, it's awesome. But yeah, she got me 389 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:45.039 thinking about it. I was like, oh, maybe that would 390 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:46.640 be fun. I don't know if I could do it. 391 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:50.160 I mean, I feel like that is like hardcore, physically 392 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:52.920 demanding kind of stuff, you know. 393 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:56.880 And and again I interview a lot of new coming 394 00:21:56.920 --> 00:21:58.720 a new up and coming I don't even know how 395 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:00.680 to put it, new girls, and a lot of them 396 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.359 are dancers too. But they say when a feature dancer 397 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:06.400 comes in, regardless of what she does on the stage, 398 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:09.799 you can just swing around pole a little bit wave. 399 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:14.799 Uh not even sort of like you know, hey. 400 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.640 As a guy, let me tell you this as a 401 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:22.160