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<v Speaker 1>Hello friends. This video was suggested by a longtime subscriber

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<v Speaker 1>and fan, Kendall Bergh. She writes in the comments section,

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<v Speaker 1>please do Crater Lake, Oregon. I'm an Oregon native and

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<v Speaker 1>would love to hear stories from my home state. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I love your channel. Thank you for all the stories.

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<v Speaker 1>I love them well. Kendall, thank you for your comment.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate your kind words, and we also took your

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<v Speaker 1>request to heart. So Kendall and everyone please join us

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<v Speaker 1>now for five strange disappearances and mysteries from Crater Lake, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these stories can be found in my latest book,

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<v Speaker 1>National Park Mysteries and Disappearances, Volume three, The Pacific Northwest,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes Oregon, Washington, and Idaho. It's available from Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>and Kendle and paperback format, and it's also available whoever

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<v Speaker 1>find books are sold. There's a link in the description.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on the Crater Lake first, I feel a little

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<v Speaker 1>background in histories in the way. Crater Lake National Park

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<v Speaker 1>was established in nineteen oh two and is located in

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<v Speaker 1>southern Oregon. In total, the park covers one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three two hundred and twenty four acres, which includes

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<v Speaker 1>Crater Lake and its surrounding hills and forests. Many years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Mazama collapsed, creating a nearly two thy one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen foot deep caldera that partially fills Crater Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>The amount of water in the lake is replaced approximately

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<v Speaker 1>every two hundred and fifty years by rain and snow,

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<v Speaker 1>which offsets the evaporation. This is the deepest lake in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, measuring some one thousand, nine hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine feet. For maximum depth, it ranks ninth in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, while for mein slash average depth, it ranks third.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two small islands in Crater Lake, located near

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<v Speaker 1>the lake's western shore. Wizard Island is approximately three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen acres in size, while Phantom Ship, a natural

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<v Speaker 1>rock pillar, is located near its southern shore. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>lake has no inlets or tributaries, its waters are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the purest in the world. Due to the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of pollutants. There are relatively high levels of dissolved salts

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<v Speaker 1>in the lake as well, jud it's high elevation and

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<v Speaker 1>influence from the Pacific. Crater Lake has a subalpine climate.

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<v Speaker 1>Summers are mild and dry, but winters are cold. And snowy,

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<v Speaker 1>with average snowfalls reaching five hundred and five inches per

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<v Speaker 1>year and maximum snow cover of one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine inches or three point five to three meters. It

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<v Speaker 1>usually takes until mid July for the snow to melt.

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<v Speaker 1>Even into the summer, hard frosts or possible in the

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<v Speaker 1>Crater Lake area. The surface temperature of the lake ranges

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<v Speaker 1>from thirty three degrees fahrenheit to sixty six degrees In

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<v Speaker 1>the summertime, the lake normally fluctuates between fifteen and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>As a result of the collapse of Mount Mazama, Crater

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<v Speaker 1>Lake had no fish until man named William G. Steele

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<v Speaker 1>decided to stock it in eighteen eighty eight in order

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<v Speaker 1>to allow for fishing. The fish were regularly stocked until

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty one, when it became evident that the fish

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<v Speaker 1>could maintain a stable population without assistance from the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Two fish species have survived from the original stocking, Cochetti

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<v Speaker 1>salmon and rainbow trout, with the salmon being the most abundant.

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<v Speaker 1>As part of its history, Crater Lake is also known

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<v Speaker 1>for the Old Man of the Lake, a full sized

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<v Speaker 1>tree that's been bobbing in the water for over a century.

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<v Speaker 1>As a result of the low temperatures of the lake,

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<v Speaker 1>the decomposition of the wood has been slowed considerably. Crater

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<v Speaker 1>Lake is sacred to the Klamath tribe of Native Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous to the area. Generations ago, they told of it

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<v Speaker 1>being the crossing point between Skelle, a spirit from above,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lao, a spirit from below. Andrew lank Ford, author

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<v Speaker 1>of Haunted Hikes, Spine Tingling, Tails, and Trails from North

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<v Speaker 1>America's National Parks, rights to this of Crater Lake. Lao

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<v Speaker 1>and Skelle fought gory battles here. Lao rips Skull's heart

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<v Speaker 1>from his chest, and Skull retaliated by dismembering Lao and

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<v Speaker 1>throwing the body parts into the lake. Ideous monsters gobbled

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<v Speaker 1>up everything but Lao's head, but the lake still holds

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<v Speaker 1>Lao's spirit. When stirred, he may brew up storm clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>When angered, he may peer in the form of a

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<v Speaker 1>giant crayfish that climbs up out of the lake, snatches

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<v Speaker 1>people off the rim of the crater that surrounds the

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<v Speaker 1>lake and drags them down into the water. So now

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<v Speaker 1>that we know what Crater Lake is, how it was formed,

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<v Speaker 1>and what it represents to the indigenous tribes of the area.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us look into the first disappearance, that of little

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Bulky. In the early afternoon of October fourteenth, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, Sammy Bulky, aged eight, was playing near

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<v Speaker 1>the Cleetwood Cove area in Crater Lake National Park with

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<v Speaker 1>his father, Kenneth Bulky, forty eight. Sammy disappeared into the

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<v Speaker 1>woods after running up a cinder slope. Despite his passion

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<v Speaker 1>for life, Sammy was stubborn at times. Also as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of having a mild form of autism, he was

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<v Speaker 1>terrified of loud noises and bright lights. At the time

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<v Speaker 1>of his disappearance, Sammy stood four feet eleven inches tall,

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<v Speaker 1>weighed eighty five pounds, and had short brown hair and

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<v Speaker 1>brown eyes. The last time he was seen, he was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a long sleeved black and green T shirt, jeans,

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<v Speaker 1>a blue coat, and red Swede slip on shoes with

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<v Speaker 1>rubber soles. While the little boy did have camping experience,

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<v Speaker 1>he had no formal wilderness survival training given his young age.

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<v Speaker 1>At around four pm that day, the Bulky family had

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<v Speaker 1>pulled over at a pull out five hundred yards east

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cleetwood Cove parking lot area and were walking

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<v Speaker 1>north along Rim Drive. Sammy and his father were playing

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<v Speaker 1>hide and seek on a gravel slope and Sammy saw

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<v Speaker 1>some yellow that he thought might be gold. Sammy stayed

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<v Speaker 1>on the slope, refusing to come down, and as darkness approached,

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<v Speaker 1>his father walked to shortness to their car to return

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<v Speaker 1>to their Diamond Lake cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>Can Eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Bulky chased after Sammy. Sammy stayed at least fifty feet ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>likely considering it a game. I never caught up with him,

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<v Speaker 1>his father said, and at that point he disappeared over

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<v Speaker 1>the top somewhere and I lost him. Within a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of hours. More than two hundred people were combing in

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<v Speaker 1>an area of about six square miles or four thousand acres. Dogs, helicopters,

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<v Speaker 1>and heat cents and cameras were used to search for

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<v Speaker 1>the boy for a week, but he was never found.

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<v Speaker 1>Authority said a helicopter crew spotted some tracks, but they

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<v Speaker 1>turned out to be most likely animal tracks. After that,

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<v Speaker 1>the search continued intermittently despite heavy snowfalls in the area

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand feet above sea level. The park gets more

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<v Speaker 1>than five hundred inches of snow per year. Although it

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<v Speaker 1>was unlikely Sammy would have fallen into the lake because

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<v Speaker 1>of obstacles on the slope, technical climbing crews searched the

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<v Speaker 1>slopes from the rim of the caldera down to the shoreline,

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<v Speaker 1>participating in the search for sar teams from Jackson, Klamath

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<v Speaker 1>into Shoots Counties. National Park Service searchers and trackers from

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<v Speaker 1>teams were also involved, as well as volunteers consisting of

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<v Speaker 1>Force Service. It seems more than a little odd that

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<v Speaker 1>a boy of Sammy's age, who was just slightly autistic

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<v Speaker 1>would run off into the woods without any reason at

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<v Speaker 1>all and continued going until he was out of sight

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<v Speaker 1>and hearing range of his father. Because it was cold.

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<v Speaker 1>This first instinct, we would think would be to turn

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<v Speaker 1>around and return to his dad, especially if he was

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<v Speaker 1>calling for him, no matter how long he had been

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<v Speaker 1>hidden from him. Sadly, no trace was ever found and

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy remains missing. Next up, we have a strange disappearance

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<v Speaker 1>of Derek Ingebrutson east of the Cascade Range in south

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<v Speaker 1>central Oregon lies Upper Klamath Lake, a large shallow freshwater lake.

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<v Speaker 1>Helican Butte over three thy eight hundred feet above the

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<v Speaker 1>shore of Crater Lake as a steep sided, dormant volcano

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<v Speaker 1>located twenty eight miles south of the Crater. Sometime in

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon on December fifth, nineteen ninety eight, Derek Ingebretsen,

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<v Speaker 1>his father Robert, and his grandfather Bob sixty four, set

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<v Speaker 1>out for a densely wooded mountainside above Upper Klamath Lake,

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty miles north of Klamath Falls. They planned to

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<v Speaker 1>find a Christmas tree for the holiday season. Derek was

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<v Speaker 1>lost and never seen again. Because of his love of

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<v Speaker 1>the outdoors, Derek was known as bear boy even at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of eight. A week after he was born,

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<v Speaker 1>his mother carried him on a bear hunt in a pack.

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<v Speaker 1>In his youth, he hunted with his father and picked

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<v Speaker 1>mushrooms with his mother's father. On several of his mushroom

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<v Speaker 1>expedition outings. He had visited Pelcon Butte in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ingebretsen family did not plan to go Christmas tree

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<v Speaker 1>hunting that year in the woods. Although Robert looked forward

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<v Speaker 1>to a family Christmas tree hunt every year. It was

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, Laurie, who convinced him to use an artificial

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<v Speaker 1>tree that year. Laurie wanted to keep the mess to

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<v Speaker 1>a minimum, but when a disabled neighbor asked for a tree,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert decided to go into the woods. Bob remembers tell

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<v Speaker 1>the group that since it was already two pm, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be dark around four pm. Since it was late

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<v Speaker 1>in the year, and he was driving along west Side

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<v Speaker 1>Road in his red Toyota pick up on his way

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<v Speaker 1>to Rocky Point Resort. Bob pulled into a turnout at

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<v Speaker 1>mile post twelve. The three of them climbed up an

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<v Speaker 1>embankment into a pine forest, and Robert helped Derek get

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<v Speaker 1>into his blue snowsuit. Derek walked behind Robert, who told

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<v Speaker 1>him to stay with his grandfather. Derek nagged his grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to catch up with his dad as

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<v Speaker 1>he chopped at small trees with his hatchet. At some point,

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<v Speaker 1>the grandfather relented and the boy headed off in search

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<v Speaker 1>of his father. With the darkness closing in, Robert and

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<v Speaker 1>Bob met back up and ask each other where's Derek.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert recalls asking Grandpa Bob replied, I thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>with you. No, he was with you. Despite the steady

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<v Speaker 1>falling of heavy wet snow, Robert turned on his heels

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<v Speaker 1>and went back up the hill. He called out to Derek,

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<v Speaker 1>but no response came. Robert then flagged down a man

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<v Speaker 1>named Fred Hines, a motorist who was driving along at

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<v Speaker 1>about four thirteen pm, and requested he dialed No One

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<v Speaker 1>One so the authorities could be notified in the resort

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<v Speaker 1>two miles away from the area where Derek vanished. Hines

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<v Speaker 1>made the call. Over the course of two weeks, hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of people searched through several feet of snow, using snowmobiles

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<v Speaker 1>and dogs to search for Derek. Lurie slept in a

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<v Speaker 1>donated camper van at the turnout, hoping Derek might see

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<v Speaker 1>the bonfire and come to her. Once she thought she

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<v Speaker 1>saw Derek waving and smiling at her. However, it turned

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<v Speaker 1>out she was just delirious from lack of sleep. Derek's

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<v Speaker 1>tracks were found by Robert, who Dad and other members

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<v Speaker 1>of the family in the newly fallen snow in the

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<v Speaker 1>hours immediately following his disappearance. Apparently, Derek had laid down

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<v Speaker 1>in a clearing near the road to make a snow angel.

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<v Speaker 1>When his bootprints were spotted near the spot where Robert

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<v Speaker 1>had last seen him. There had been a snowpile that

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<v Speaker 1>came by, and sadly, the tracks leading away from the

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<v Speaker 1>angel were obliterated. There were no tracks leading towards the

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<v Speaker 1>woods from the snow angel. A small area of trees

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<v Speaker 1>near the road was damaged by Derek's hatchet cuts. His

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<v Speaker 1>father was confident that his son did not.

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<v Speaker 2>Re enter the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Early in the evening, five to eight inches of snow

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<v Speaker 1>had fallen on the point the candy wrapper was found,

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<v Speaker 1>and a makeshift lean to shelter was found made out

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<v Speaker 1>of branches. It was unclear whether the candy rapper or

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<v Speaker 1>During the next seven days, Robert Laurie at about one

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<v Speaker 1>Every weekend for the next two years, these search areas

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<v Speaker 1>They at least thought to have been negligent in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the grandfather's insistence Robert no longer spoke to him.

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars looking for him. They even paid for

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<v Speaker 1>psychics and a boat to search Klamath Lake. They eventually

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<v Speaker 1>Derek had simply wandered off into the woods and died,

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<v Speaker 1>as remains had been scattered by animals. However, they Gingiabrets

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<v Speaker 1>and family never really believed that, especially since no remains,

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<v Speaker 1>torn clothing nothing was ever found. There was even a

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<v Speaker 1>strange graffiti was found scrawled on a rest area bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>It was later ruled a cruel hoax by the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>The boy named Derek was found in Texas under unusual circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>and he looked a lot like the Ingebrets and son,

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<v Speaker 1>but was actually a different person. Then later on in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, after several days of waiting for confirmation, a

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<v Speaker 1>bone discovered in Pelican Butte was identified as being from

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<v Speaker 1>a deer. In two thousand and one, the family mailbox

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<v Speaker 1>received a handwritten letter. The letter read, I know who

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<v Speaker 1>took your son. On July eleventh, two thousand, Frank J. Milligan,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one year old State Youth Authority worker, a ten

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<v Speaker 1>man asked the boy do you want to live or die?

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<v Speaker 1>Milligan bound the boy's hands with duct tape and then

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<v Speaker 1>forced him to walk down a dirt road where he

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted him. After this vicious assault, Miller left the boy

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<v Speaker 1>where a passing motors stopped to help him. In this

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<v Speaker 1>letter to the police and the Ingabretsans admitted that Milligan

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<v Speaker 1>had confessed to doing away with Derry. The letter arrived

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<v Speaker 1>at the Ingabretson home in late two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 1>In another letter that arrived at the home in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and one, Milligan's cell mate claimed that Milligan had

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<v Speaker 1>admitted to him that he had been the one that

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<v Speaker 1>ended young Dereck's life. A detective from the Oregon State

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<v Speaker 1>Police who investigated the Dallas case confronted Milligan. Milligan reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>confessed to the crime and agreed to lead investigators to

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<v Speaker 1>the body. The FBI used ground penetrating radar to scams

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<v Speaker 1>for bones at Silverfalls State Park southeast of Salem Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>where Lourie and Robert drove for five hours. There were

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<v Speaker 1>no results. After several days of searching, an assistant district

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<v Speaker 1>attorney told the Incabretsen that Milligan had agreed to plead

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<v Speaker 1>guilty to killing the young boy if they spared him

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty. However, after Milligan was presented with the

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<v Speaker 1>paperwork a few days later, he refused to sign the confession.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Derek Ingebretsen abducted by Frank Milligan or someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>as the police believed, or did he simply die from

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<v Speaker 1>the cold or maybe even an animal tack. This mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>case remains unsolved. Next up, Charles mccullor, the melting Man

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<v Speaker 1>of Crater Lake. January seventh, nineteen seventy five. Eighteen year

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<v Speaker 1>oldest spiring photographer. Charles mccullor was a free spirit at heart.

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<v Speaker 1>He was living in Virginia when he decided there was

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<v Speaker 1>so much to explore in national parks across the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles was said to be very reliable and kept in

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<v Speaker 1>close contact with his family, even on the long trips

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<v Speaker 1>that he liked to take. Deciding to put more effort

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<v Speaker 1>into his photography and wanting to visit a friend in Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles packed a small backpack and left everything else behind,

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<v Speaker 1>even his beloved Volkswagen bus. He would make his way

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<v Speaker 1>across the country with the occasional bus ride, but mostly

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<v Speaker 1>by hitchhiking. He wanted to see all the national parks

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, and one of those parks in

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<v Speaker 1>particular caught his attention, Creater Lake National Park in Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a convenient place from the start, as his

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<v Speaker 1>friend lived nearby. Very little facts surrounded this case and

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<v Speaker 1>Charles passed, so why he decided to leave at the

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<v Speaker 1>very moment he did is still unclear. What was clear, however,

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<v Speaker 1>by conversation he has with his father, was that Charles

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<v Speaker 1>wanted something different and he was going to start his

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<v Speaker 1>search at Crater Lake National Oregon. Charles mccullor would leave

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia the very next day. Sadly, this would be the

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<v Speaker 1>last time his family would ever see him. January eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five. Mostly hitchhiking across the United States, Charles's

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<v Speaker 1>first significant stop was in Yuma, Arizona. Between January sixteenth

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<v Speaker 1>and the twenty second of that year, he had regular

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<v Speaker 1>contact with his parents, calling often to check in and

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<v Speaker 1>update them on his progress and future plans. On January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ninth, Charles placed one more call to his parents

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<v Speaker 1>to let them know he had made it to Eugene,

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon and was staying with his friend. This was the

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<v Speaker 1>last call the mccullors would receive from their son. He

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<v Speaker 1>told his friends that he would be staying at Greater

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<v Speaker 1>Lake for two days because he wanted to photograph the

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<v Speaker 1>area's winter landscape, and that if he wasn't back by

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<v Speaker 1>February first, to send help. This was the last contact

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<v Speaker 1>Charles's friends ever had with him. It was reported during

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<v Speaker 1>the search several people saw Charles around the Diamond Lake

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<v Speaker 1>area on the twenty ninth, and a man that was

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<v Speaker 1>cutting trees close to the park had picked Charles up

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<v Speaker 1>and dropped him off near the park entrance. Not being

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<v Speaker 1>from the area, Charles wasn't well versed with the terrain

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<v Speaker 1>he planned a photograph. The winter months the Crater Lake

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<v Speaker 1>could be very and unexpectedly harsh for the ill prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's not rare for the area to see

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<v Speaker 1>several feet of snow from one storm, and at the

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<v Speaker 1>time of charles disappearance, the weather report for Crater Lake

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<v Speaker 1>stated there was twenty four to ninety inches on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground the snow drifts of over twenty feet. Temperatures at

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<v Speaker 1>that time were well below freezing, dipping down into the

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<v Speaker 1>teens at night and just over freezing during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Wind gusts themselves hampered search and rescue efforts, which were

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<v Speaker 1>compounded and made worse with a blowing snow Ebruay first

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<v Speaker 1>had came and went, and there was no word from Charles.

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<v Speaker 1>He was reported missing by his friends that day. The

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<v Speaker 1>search for Charles mccullor was underway at a rapid pace.

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<v Speaker 1>The teams knew they had to make haste as the

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<v Speaker 1>weather was already bad and was getting worse and wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>that night which called for more heavy snow and gale

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<v Speaker 1>Searches lasted for that day and into the night and

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<v Speaker 1>early morning hours of February second. Search was called off

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<v Speaker 1>around two am due to worsening weather conditions. The search

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<v Speaker 1>continued intermittently over the next several days, although with a

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<v Speaker 1>scaled down number of searchers, again due to the weather conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Local police didn't contact them of Colors until February tenth

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<v Speaker 1>to notify them about their son's disappearance. Also notified at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time was the FBI. Both Charles's parents and

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI made their way to the park and joined

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<v Speaker 1>in the search efforts. The efforts were still slow, though,

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<v Speaker 1>as the snow dressed in the latest storm were twelve

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<v Speaker 1>feet deeper more, making it almost impossible to even find

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<v Speaker 1>where Charles Camp may have been located. The initial search

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<v Speaker 1>lasted for months without any sign of him being found whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles's father stayed at Crater Lake, camping by the shore

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<v Speaker 1>line throughout that spring and summer tiressly looking for his son. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>he never found anything. A full year and a half later,

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<v Speaker 1>two hikers that were on the Pacific Crest trail made

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<v Speaker 1>and boggy area of the park, where they came upon

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<v Speaker 1>a threadbare and backpack that contained, among other things, a

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<v Speaker 1>Volkswagen key. The hikers marked the area with a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of clothing, then made their way to the ranger station

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<v Speaker 1>and informed them of what they had found, showing them

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<v Speaker 1>the area of where to go on a map the mark.

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<v Speaker 1>While going through the contents of the bag, the hikers

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<v Speaker 1>made a remark about the strange shaped key that had

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<v Speaker 1>been found. A part time park ranger that had been

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<v Speaker 1>part of the initial search for Charles named Mary and Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be at the ranger station that day and

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<v Speaker 1>overheard the conversation. His curiosity aroused, he walked up to

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<v Speaker 1>the man and looked at the key. You remember the

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<v Speaker 1>flyers that were made when Charles went missing, and one

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<v Speaker 1>It turned out to be an important piece of evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>one they could link to Charles mccullor. A new search

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<v Speaker 1>party was formed and from the information given by the hikers,

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<v Speaker 1>they trekked into Sphagnum box in there that was a

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<v Speaker 1>full twelve miles off trail of where Charles was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have been. The key that was found was later

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<v Speaker 1>matched to the one Charles owned. Further searches would turn

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<v Speaker 1>up a mysterious scene. Indeed, charles remains were found in

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<v Speaker 1>a state of undress and only his lower half was left.

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<v Speaker 1>His jeans were un button and his belt undone. His

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<v Speaker 1>sticking straight up. His socks contained the sweet bones. The

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<v Speaker 1>only other part of the body that was found was

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<v Speaker 1>the crown of his skull, and it was over ten

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<v Speaker 1>feet away from the other parts of his body. It

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<v Speaker 1>was as if his upper body simply melted away. His

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<v Speaker 1>camera equipment, along with his money, boots, coat, and shirt

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<v Speaker 1>were all missing, just as was the rest of him.

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<v Speaker 1>The creepiest part was his genes were found in a

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<v Speaker 1>the unthinkable happen. Some have speculated that Charles mccollor was

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<v Speaker 1>suffering from hypothermia, which caused a condition known as paradoxical undressing.

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<v Speaker 1>This condition happens when the core body temperature drops below

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four degrees and because of the heat loss, victims

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<v Speaker 1>begin to think they're too hot. They start removing their

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<v Speaker 1>clothing to alleviate the heat, when reality they are freezing

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<v Speaker 1>to death all the more faster. This theory would explain

417
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<v Speaker 1>his missing clothes, But what about the money and the

418
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<v Speaker 1>camera equipment, and what happened to the other half of

419
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<v Speaker 1>his remains? How did he get a full twelve miles

420
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<v Speaker 1>into this bog in snow that was over one hundred

421
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<v Speaker 1>inches deep? And why was the FBI called into search

422
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<v Speaker 1>for Charles. In twenty sixteen, Stephen mccullar wrote an article

423
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<v Speaker 1>on his brother's case. It reads quote, if only those

424
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<v Speaker 1>broken shinbones could have talked to us, what do you

425
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<v Speaker 1>think they would say? I bet they'd say something like this.

426
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<v Speaker 1>I hitched to ride with this creepy guy who stole

427
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<v Speaker 1>my camera equipment and money and then took my life. Then,

428
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<v Speaker 1>on a clear day of the dead of winter, he

429
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<v Speaker 1>hauled my body into the remotest part of Crater Lake,

430
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<v Speaker 1>took my shirt and boots off, and set me up

431
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<v Speaker 1>on a log, and left, figuring the animals would destroy

432
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<v Speaker 1>the evidence by spring. And hey, I guess it worked

433
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<v Speaker 1>because the cops ruled the death to be from natural causes.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad doesn't buy it though, end quote. At the

435
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<v Speaker 1>time of this recording, there have been no new developments

436
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<v Speaker 1>in the sad case of Charles mccullor. Next up, a

437
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<v Speaker 1>seventy year old mystery in Crater Lake National Park. On

438
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<v Speaker 1>July twenty first, nineteen fifty two, while searching for missing

439
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<v Speaker 1>United Service Motors executive, it was on a beautiful sunny

440
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:04.559
<v Speaker 1>summer's day at Crater Lake National Park a group of

441
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<v Speaker 1>part time park workers found the bodies of the two

442
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<v Speaker 1>men who'd been murdered execution style. Their neck ties have

443
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 1>been used as gags and remained in their mouths because

444
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<v Speaker 1>this case had been solved seventy years ago. First, let's

445
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<v Speaker 1>take a look at who they were. The men found

446
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<v Speaker 1>on the trail that day were fifty three year old

447
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<v Speaker 1>Charles Patrick Cohaney of Detroit, Michigan and fifty six year

448
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<v Speaker 1>old Albert Marston Jones of San Francisco, California. Both men

449
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<v Speaker 1>were United Service Motor Executives and ancillary company of General Motors.

450
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<v Speaker 2>The men were at.

451
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<v Speaker 1>Greater Lake National Park to do some sight seeing and

452
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<v Speaker 1>have a relaxing day. They'd been in town attending meetings

453
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<v Speaker 1>in Klamath Falls for the company. Both men wanted to

454
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<v Speaker 1>do some fishing at the Union Creek area and had

455
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<v Speaker 1>made plans to meet up with business associates John Vaughn,

456
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<v Speaker 1>Frank Everlyn, and Evelyn's thirteen year old son. The fishing

457
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<v Speaker 1>trip would be later in the day as well, as

458
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<v Speaker 1>Evelyn had to work half day before they could closed

459
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<v Speaker 1>the shop. As the local men made their way to

460
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:06.599
<v Speaker 1>the fishing spot, they passed the South Park entrance around

461
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<v Speaker 1>three pm and saw Albert Jones car, a nineteen fifty

462
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<v Speaker 1>one green Pontiac, sitting on the side of the road

463
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<v Speaker 1>on Highway sixty two. This was near the Anti Creek

464
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<v Speaker 1>Canyon area. Jones and Kohaney weren't in the car nor

465
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<v Speaker 1>around the area, as Vaughn and Evelin pulled up alongside

466
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the car. They could see the passenger door ajar, which

467
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:29.640
<v Speaker 1>seemed to be off to them. Exiting their vehicle, they

468
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<v Speaker 1>called out for Jones and Kohaney, but never got an answer.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Luggage could be seen from the window, as well as

470
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<v Speaker 1>a camera sitting on the seat, and the car keys

471
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>still hung from the ignition. Bon touched the hoo of

472
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.039
<v Speaker 1>the car and found it to still be warm. The

473
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 1>three men stood around talking for a bit, waiting for

474
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<v Speaker 1>the others to possibly return. Around an hour later, and

475
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<v Speaker 1>having searched a little in themedate area, two of the

476
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<v Speaker 1>three men left to go call for help, while the

477
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<v Speaker 1>third remained with the car just in case they returned.

478
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<v Speaker 1>While the two men were gone, who was waiting at

479
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<v Speaker 1>the car heard another car approaching.

480
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<v Speaker 2>He says.

481
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<v Speaker 1>One car came through, crunching gravel, didn't really took off fast.

482
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think much about it at the time, but

483
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<v Speaker 1>now I wonder if that was them, and they were

484
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>returning to the car and saw someone inside it and adios,

485
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>let's get out of here. Once alerted, rangers started to

486
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 1>search that day for the missing men. One of the

487
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>searchers that day was a man named Rex Ash, and

488
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<v Speaker 1>he was the one who found the bodies. We were

489
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<v Speaker 1>working west from the highway, all spread out about twenty

490
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>feet apart. He recalls, I thought, old, lordy, there they are.

491
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<v Speaker 1>It was a really hot summer day and they had

492
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 1>started to bloat. I'd never seen a dead body before.

493
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:42.599
<v Speaker 1>Ash alerted the other searchers to the fight, and they

494
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<v Speaker 1>all came rushing over.

495
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<v Speaker 2>It was a bunch of.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Kids and everyone was gathering around to see what was happening.

497
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Ash went on to say, we might have accidentally destroyed

498
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.759
<v Speaker 1>some of the evidence. We didn't touch anything, but we

499
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>tore up the terrain quite a bit. One member of

500
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the search crew took his camera out and started taking pictures.

501
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:03.680
<v Speaker 1>He stepped over Jones and Coheney and around them and

502
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>practically got in their faces. He had plans to sell

503
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>these to True Crime magazine and make a fortune, but

504
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>fortunately the FBI took them away. Recalled John Owens, another

505
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.599
<v Speaker 1>one of the searchers. Owings and Ash were tasked with

506
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>staying with the bodies until officials could arrive. We were

507
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 1>sitting there, scared to death, wondering which one of us

508
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>was going to be next. Owings recounted it was one

509
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.599
<v Speaker 1>of the worst nights of my life. Ash and Owens

510
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:31.519
<v Speaker 1>finished out the summer at the park and returned to

511
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:36.119
<v Speaker 1>their respective homes. On Monday, July twenty first, nineteen fifty two,

512
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<v Speaker 1>at three twenty seven pm, an FBI agent and Oregon

513
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<v Speaker 1>State Police Private LW. Heron arrived at the murder scene

514
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and took over the investigation. Col Haney was the first

515
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to be processed. He was laying on his back, legs

516
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>out and right arm across his chest. His dentures were

517
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<v Speaker 1>in his shirt pocket. He had been shot once in

518
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 1>the back of his head. In addition to the gunshot wound,

519
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the growing area was bruised. Jones's fate was similar. He

520
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>was also on his back, feet towards Koheney, arms by

521
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>his side, Bruce groin and a single gunshot wound to

522
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 1>the back of his head. But set jones injuries apart

523
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 1>from Kohney was the skull was fractured. Both men were shoeless,

524
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 1>but their socked feet were clean. Their ties had been

525
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>used as gags. Also, both men had been robbed, as

526
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>their watches and money was missing, and one man's pair

527
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>of shoes were nowhere to be found a few other

528
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 1>clues were found at the scene. Stay true for Heron,

529
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>who has since passed away, was quote fascinated by the

530
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>case and worked on it initially until the FBI took over.

531
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.119
<v Speaker 1>He talked about it and looked into it for a

532
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<v Speaker 1>couple of years. Quote Now that's according to his wife,

533
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Ruth Heron, now seventy seven and still living in Klamath Falls.

534
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Aaron had suspected the killers were a couple of men

535
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 1>named John Wesley Cole and Kenneth Moore, both of Chiliquin.

536
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>A few years before the Jones koll Haney murders, Moore

537
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>had been convicted of tying up and robbing two trappers

538
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<v Speaker 1>in the woods.

539
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>A woman came forward with.

540
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<v Speaker 1>A story saying that Moore had confessed to the murders

541
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and had told her late husband this was according to

542
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 1>osp reports, justice would come swift and harsh to Colin

543
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Moore if they were in fact guilty of the murders.

544
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>They were both found frozen to death in Klamouth County

545
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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty two. However, Aaron had suspected the two

546
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>men because they were outlaws around that are at the

547
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>time that the Kolhenyan Jones murders occurred. Days after the murders,

548
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the police talked over two hundred park employees and took

549
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.519
<v Speaker 1>statements from several people that had been in the area.

550
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>One of those people was Lincoln Lenz. His initial report

551
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 1>read he Lynz was driving canned goods to the lodge

552
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 1>that he drove a truck for on July nineteen, nineteen

553
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>fifty two. He says he saw two men wearing work

554
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.079
<v Speaker 1>clothes with two other men that were described as white

555
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 1>collar types. The member being led into the woods for

556
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the executives, who were later found dead. As he continued

557
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 1>down the road towards the lodge, he heard what he

558
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>described as two firecracker type bangs.

559
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:08.519
<v Speaker 2>Later that day, Linz was.

560
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Followed and harassed by two scruffy looking men who also

561
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 1>followed him the next day. This is what made him

562
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>surmise they were the killers. Linz gave a description of

563
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 1>the men. The old one was the most distinctive. He

564
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 1>wore a beaded belt that appeared to spell out Ralph,

565
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>He had a tattoo of bikini clad female on his

566
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:31.279
<v Speaker 1>right forearm, and he was missing a finger. Linz said

567
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 1>the FBI has missed the story and called him a

568
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.079
<v Speaker 1>smart ellie. If the FBI had come back to me,

569
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I could have showed them even where the killer's car

570
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 1>had been parked and beer cans that might have had

571
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Speaker 1>their fingerprints. He recounted he was able to remember more

572
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>details after the initial interview. After the lodge had closed

573
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 1>in the fall and I returned to the University of Oregon.

574
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.559
<v Speaker 1>I tried to contact the agents several more times. They

575
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Speaker 1>never returned my calls, possibly because they thought it was

576
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>impossible for me to see them walking those guys into

577
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.319
<v Speaker 1>the forest and hearing the gunshots, even though the area

578
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.759
<v Speaker 1>was a quarter of a mile off the highway. Two

579
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 1>days after the murders, a man that gave a fake

580
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>identification J. D. Harney, that supposedly lived at five point

581
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>thirty six Plum Street in Medford Organ, made a long

582
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.079
<v Speaker 1>distance call from a payphone at the Southern Pacific Railroad

583
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 1>depot at one fifteen pm. He asked theator put the

584
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>call through the garage, the only one in Fort Klamath,

585
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a small community near Crater Lake. The operator contacted the

586
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 1>FBI after hearing of the murders to let them know

587
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>about the strange phone call and the even stranger request

588
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>made by the caller. She recounted that the man seemed

589
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>rather angry, like he wanted to take my head off.

590
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<v Speaker 1>Because she wasn't able to put the call through until

591
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<v Speaker 1>one forty five later that afternoon, the business called Wilmer

592
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Garage was closed until then. When he finally got through

593
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>the garage, she told the owners that a friend of

594
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>his name Jones, was in the hospital and needed his

595
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.799
<v Speaker 1>car picked up from the park and stored at their

596
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>garage until he got out. He said the keys were

597
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>in the ignition. The police quickly descended on the area

598
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 1>where the call was placed from, but no one was there. However,

599
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 1>a trained deeper worker was able to give a description

600
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of the caller. He was around five to seven, sandy

601
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 1>colored hair, slender, and was wearing a brightly colored shirt

602
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that was yellow and red with short sleeves. The police

603
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 1>checked out to name an address the collar gave, but

604
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.039
<v Speaker 1>both were fake. Fingerprints were taken from the receiver and

605
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 1>the coins inside the phone. However, no one was ever identified.

606
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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety four, the granddaughter one of the murdered

607
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 1>men had a different take on what happened. While going

608
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<v Speaker 1>through her late mother's belongings. She discovered two letters that

609
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>were written but unsent. One stated that she, the daughter,

610
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>thought it was an organized hit. The letter read, I

611
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<v Speaker 1>think they the Santos gang, saw the fancy car and

612
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Speaker 1>it was a case of robbery. Even though people say

613
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<v Speaker 1>there is more to it than that, I just don't

614
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<v Speaker 1>think so. I think it was Jack Santo, EMMITTT. Perkins,

615
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and Barbara Graham and their gang. Their method of operation

616
00:33:56.359 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>fits and their motive was always robbery. This particular game

617
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 1>was executed in nineteen fifty five. For other murders. Retired

618
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<v Speaker 1>met For police officer Bob Allen said the FBI swooped

619
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<v Speaker 1>in and took over the case because it happened in

620
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<v Speaker 1>a national park. All they could do was speculate about

621
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<v Speaker 1>why and who had committed such a crime. It just

622
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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like anyone from around here. Allan said. The

623
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<v Speaker 1>town's worst crime up to that point were safe roppers

624
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and bad check writers. Last spring, Cheryl housey, forty seven,

625
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>was taking class at Road Community College when she heard

626
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 1>about the Greater Lake murders and decided to write a

627
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>paper on them. She spent over three months investigating the deaths.

628
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Her extensive report is now part of the files at

629
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 1>the Southern Oregon Historical Society. Claydy was a big muckety

630
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.039
<v Speaker 1>muck with the company and there were problems.

631
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>With the union. Back then it was a hit.

632
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 1>She gave the presentation on the murders at the Klamath

633
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:54.760
<v Speaker 1>County Museum. A little over thirty seniors showed up. The

634
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 1>last man to walk in was what was described as

635
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a suspicious looking man in a long shirt. She said,

636
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Hou'sey's thread noticed the man because the way he studied

637
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the names in the guest book so intensely, and he

638
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>was missing a finger. As of this recording, the Crater

639
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Lake murders remained unsolved. Last up, we have the legend

640
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Missing Prospector, the story of the lost Cabin Mine.

641
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.679
<v Speaker 1>The cabin and a prospector known as set him Up

642
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:27.039
<v Speaker 1>is a legend about an area of land not too

643
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>far from Crater Lake. But it was said that the

644
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>man named set him Up has successful prospects of the

645
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 1>gold rush that was hitting the area. The legend, as

646
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 1>recited by a group of California prospectors from days gone by,

647
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was told like this, The argument over the first white

648
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 1>man to discover Crater Lake has been disputed for years.

649
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>In the eighteen forties, it was said to have been

650
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>discovered by John Steve Fremont, while others claim it wasn't

651
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:55.199
<v Speaker 1>until eighteen fifty three. At that time, Oregon's first major

652
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>gold rush to hit the area, and prospectors came from

653
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>all around chomping at the bit to find their Having

654
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 1>already found the Jackson Creek area, two prospectors pushed further

655
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.760
<v Speaker 1>into the wilderness looking for a rumored lost cabin mine

656
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that was said to be chok full of gold. A

657
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:13.599
<v Speaker 1>group of men from California owned a plot of land

658
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and said to have a small cabin and a gold

659
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 1>mine that produced a lot of gold on it. One day,

660
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the oregon men that owned the land came under attack

661
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>by local natives, and to protect their gold, buried a

662
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.119
<v Speaker 1>horde of it to keep the natives from taking it.

663
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Three of the four men were killed. The lone survivor

664
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.639
<v Speaker 1>was said to have divulged certain landmarks to set them up,

665
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 1>leading to where the cabin and buried treasure were. Soon

666
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.760
<v Speaker 1>after the man gave the information out, he disappeared as well.

667
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Either man has ever been found, and the cabin in

668
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.800
<v Speaker 1>mines whereabouts are still a mystery to this day. Years later,

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00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 1>a group of prospectors, also from California, were relaxing in

670
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 1>a local saloon one night, telling stories of their successes

671
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and drinking their fill of whiskey. One of the men,

672
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 1>having had consumed more than needed to loose his lips,

673
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>was telling his group about the legends the lost miner,

674
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>the cabin and the gold mine, and the riches contained

675
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>at the mine. As well as the cabin, the miner

676
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 1>was said to return to town with pockets full of

677
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 1>gold from prospecting the area. The miner only notice set

678
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 1>them up because that was how he always greeted people

679
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>when he came into the local saloon. Was rumored to

680
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.519
<v Speaker 1>have a cabin with maps of the missing mine and

681
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 1>a loot.

682
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Of gold within.

683
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>When the old miner would need something, he would come

684
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to town with pockets full of gold nuggets from his

685
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 1>secret mind. The man also spoke about set them up.

686
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Having gone missing under strange circumstances, he was headed off

687
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>into the woods with a couple of shady characters from

688
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville that were known thieves. Sitting not too far from

689
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the California men, a local prospecting group overheard the man's

690
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>tail and took notice, glancing at each other from around

691
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the table as they tossed back a strong shot of whiskey.

692
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 1>The men leaned into each other and quietly started to

693
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>devise their plan. They would follow the Californians to the mine,

694
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and hey, if they found the old man along the way,

695
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>even better, they would be town heroes, and maybe he

696
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>would tell them where the mine was, for their troubles

697
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>were searching for.

698
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 2>This search for the.

699
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Lost mine and cabin would lead to the discovery of

700
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Crater Lake, but for now, both groups of men had

701
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>gold in their sites. They would look for the missing

702
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 1>prospector and his rumored loot, but little did they know

703
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the journey they were about to embark upon would almost

704
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>caused them to become missing as well. Now, the lost

705
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 1>cabin mine wasn't exactly said to be specifically in the

706
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Crater Lake area. Other sources said it was actually in California,

707
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 1>and the missing miner would return home to Jacksonville with

708
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>his goal to throw off any would be thieves or

709
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 1>snoopy men looking to find his secret mine. But big

710
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>as a California group had prospected all over that state

711
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.039
<v Speaker 1>and found nothing that resembled the landscape said didn't have

712
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 1>it the lost cabin nor mine. They were convinced it

713
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 1>was an Oregon and specifically just a few miles from

714
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>where they sat. It said that as soon as the

715
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>California group left for their search, the organ group collected

716
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.559
<v Speaker 1>provisions and said hot on their trail to share, and

717
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>they imagined well. The Orgon party had eleven men and

718
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the California party had four. Not long after both parties

719
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 1>set out, they discovered each other and it became a

720
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>game of cat and mouse. The California group would cut

721
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>through the thick brush, spread out from each other, and

722
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 1>then double back to confuse the organ group. The now

723
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>large group of men had been searching for the cabin

724
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and gold for days. Their provisions began to dwindle, so

725
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a truce was called and the men joined each other

726
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.679
<v Speaker 1>in order to survive. Realizing they had wanted off their objective,

727
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.039
<v Speaker 1>but failing to realize just how far they were passed

728
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>where they were wanted to be, they were getting dangerously

729
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>closed to the rogue river.

730
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 2>It was to side.

731
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 1>At this point, the healthier, stronger men in the group

732
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>would forge ahead while the others turned back with the

733
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>men that were continuing left the camp. They had no

734
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>way of knowing just how close one of them would

735
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 1>come to death that day, and would watch another man die.

736
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>While riding on a small trail on a sloping mountain,

737
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the men soon came upon a rim of

738
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:00.599
<v Speaker 1>a lake thought to be Klamath Lake, it was actually

739
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Crater Lake. He was within feet of falling off the

740
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 1>edge before his mule stopped. I was convinced that had

741
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I been on a blind meal, I would have ridden

742
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 1>right over the edge to my death, Hilman stated. Each

743
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:14.639
<v Speaker 1>man looked on him wonder at the lake and stated

744
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.639
<v Speaker 1>how beautiful it was, before making their way back into

745
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:21.039
<v Speaker 1>the forest. The men returned to camp and contemplated what

746
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to call the lake they had just found. Two names

747
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.039
<v Speaker 1>were chosen, the Sterious Lake and Deep Blue Lake. For

748
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the last of the two names chosen as a final name,

749
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>The men documented their fine by writing each of their

750
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:36.320
<v Speaker 1>names on a piece of paper and fixing the paper

751
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 1>to a stick at the rim of the lake. It

752
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>was decided they would return to Jacksonville as they hadn't

753
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 1>found the lost miner in the cabin nor the gold.

754
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 1>The men returned to Jacksonville the next day. Some were

755
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>excited over the fine of the lake, and others just

756
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't seem to care. By the time they had made

757
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 1>it back, most of the men were so exhausted and

758
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>famished they couldn't even call the direction of the lake.

759
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 1>The other men just didn't care. A few years later,

760
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Hillman would return to the area where the lake had

761
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.159
<v Speaker 1>been discovered. He'd agreed to take a group of people

762
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to see it, as word has spread by then and

763
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 1>people have become curious. Legend has it that as Hillman

764
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 1>approached the edge of Crater Lake this time, his horse

765
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>lost its balance and fell over the side. Hilman and

766
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 1>the horse died at the scene. The lake had tried

767
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to claim him the first time he had come, and

768
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 1>was successful this time. A local Native American medicine man

769
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>was quoted as saying, if that lake wants you, it

770
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>will find a way to take you. It's cursed. Well, friends,

771
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 1>there you have it. What do you think of these

772
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 1>strange true stories from Crater Lake? I look forward to

773
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>your comments, but please keep it friendly and respectful. In

774
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.159
<v Speaker 1>the meanwhile, be good to yourselves and each other, and

775
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you just a little further down the trail.

776
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll talk to you next time.

777
00:41:56.559 --> 00:42:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Mount Saint Helen's National Volcanic Monument of the prestigious ranks

778
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:04.599
<v Speaker 1>of national parks. In August of nineteen eighty two, President

779
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan understood the importance of preserving one hundred and

780
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand acre area. Mount Saint Helens is a national park,

781
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.039
<v Speaker 1>but unlike most other national parks, it's maintained by the

782
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:19.199
<v Speaker 1>United States Department of Agriculture Forest Service. Preservation of the

783
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 1>area was deemed necessary to protect the geologic, ecologic, and

784
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>cultural resources of the monument, allowing geologic forces and ecological

785
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 1>secession to continue substantially unimpeded, as per the USBA Forestry Service.

786
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Two years prior to the area being protected, the one

787
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty year dormant volcano erupted, sending a blast

788
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 1>wave that traveled over three hundred miles per hour. Saint

789
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Helen's north face was destroyed, along with two hundred square

790
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>miles of forest. Fifty seven people lost their lives. Afterwards,

791
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>life slowly began to return to the area, the first

792
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:02.760
<v Speaker 1>thing being spiders and beatles. Just weeks after the blast. However,

793
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 1>another live form may have escaped the crater in the

794
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>form of a cryptid called batsquatch. Yes, you heard correctly, batsquatch.

795
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Soon there would be sightings of the creature, and it

796
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>would beg the question where did this.

797
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Thing come from?

798
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Batsquatch, which is a cross between a bat and sasquatch,

799
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that said to reside in or on Mount Saint Helens,

800
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 1>using the thick forest as cover in shelter, described as

801
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 1>being six to eight feet tall, having a wolf like snout,

802
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>blue fur, blowing yellower, red eyes, sharp serrated teeth, herd

803
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>like feet, and bat like wings spanning up to fifty feet.

804
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>It said those who have had the misfortune of encountering

805
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the beast were so frightened by the sighting some refused

806
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to return to the area where they saw it. People

807
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 1>who've had encounters of the strange creature equate the May

808
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen eighty eruption of Mount Saint Helens to the

809
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>release of batsquatch from the Earth's core, along with the

810
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 1>molten rock that caused devastation to much of the park

811
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and left that same devastation for hundreds of miles even

812
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:05.039
<v Speaker 1>here in Saint Helen's, Oregon, where I live so named

813
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>because you can see Mount Saint Helens, which is across

814
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the river in Washington State. I've talked to some people

815
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>that were living here at the time, and they told

816
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:14.519
<v Speaker 1>of how they didn't see the sun for weeks and

817
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>a fine ash covered everything.

818
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Now.

819
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:19.679
<v Speaker 1>One of the first sightings of this batsquatch creature was

820
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>reported by Brian Canfield in the foothills of Mount Rainier,

821
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.840
<v Speaker 1>north of Mount Saint Helens in April of nineteen ninety four.

822
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Brian Canfield was driving through Pierce County, Washington, when suddenly

823
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 1>his truck died. While Canfield sat in his truck scratching

824
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 1>his head and figured out how to get it started again,

825
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.079
<v Speaker 1>he recalled looking up and seeing a large creature land

826
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 1>right in front of him. It was standing there, staring

827
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>at me like it was resting, like it didn't know

828
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.320
<v Speaker 1>what to think. I was scared. It raised the hair

829
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 1>on me. I didn't feel threatened, I just felt out

830
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:56.280
<v Speaker 1>of place, canfielder counted. He continues, after a few moments,

831
00:44:56.360 --> 00:45:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the creature's fingers twitched, the wings began to unfold, wings

832
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that were as white as the whole road, and.

833
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.320
<v Speaker 2>It took off in the direction of Mount Raineer.

834
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.280
<v Speaker 1>The wings were so massive and when from the turbulence

835
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>shook Canfield's truck. After a few moments, Canfield tried to

836
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 1>start his truck up again and it roared to life

837
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.880
<v Speaker 1>as if there had never been an issue. Brian Canfield

838
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>continued on his way home and for the remainder of

839
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 1>his trip never even stopped for traffic seedings.

840
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Arriving home, Brian.

841
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Quickly grabbed a piece of paper and attempted to draw

842
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 1>from memory what he could remember the creature. All the

843
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.800
<v Speaker 1>noise he was making woke his sleeping parents and they

844
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>inquired as to why he was so wound up, and

845
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that's when he told him what happened and what he saw.

846
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.039
<v Speaker 1>They insisted on Brian taking them to the area to

847
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>look for clues as to what the thing could be,

848
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and a neighbor even agreed to take the family back

849
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>to the area using directions from Brian. When they arrived,

850
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:53.760
<v Speaker 1>though there was no trace of bathsquash. Interviews conducted by C. R. Roberts,

851
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the reporter that took the initial counsel, Brian Canfield, stated

852
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>he Canfield was just an average normal kid. Brian Camfield

853
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:03.559
<v Speaker 1>was eighteen years old at the time of encounter and

854
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>not known to give into flights to fancy Roberts vouched

855
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.679
<v Speaker 1>for him after listening to the story, and Brian Camfield

856
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 1>has what might be the best documented encounter with batsquatch. However,

857
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>there was a handful of other reported sightings. Nineteen ninety eight,

858
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:21.840
<v Speaker 1>an unnamed man reported seeing two similar looking creatures, one

859
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 1>of which was injured after being struck by a logging

860
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:26.320
<v Speaker 1>truck on a trail in Mount Saint Helens.

861
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:27.679
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and.

862
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Nine, a group of hikers near Mount Shasta, California, reported

863
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 1>seeing a winged creature with a fifty foot wingspan fly

864
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.679
<v Speaker 1>from a crevasse in the mountain. In twenty eleven, a

865
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>man out for a walk with his dog reported seeing

866
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a blue furred animal flying in the sky around where

867
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>he was and watched as it flew from sight and

868
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.239
<v Speaker 1>perhaps the last known sighting, in twenty fourteen, Archbishop Hoban

869
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 1>High School in Akron, Ohio reported an entire class seeing

870
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:57.519
<v Speaker 1>a giant black mass whipped past their window with incredible speed.

871
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Since twenty fourteen, it seems as though there hadn't been

872
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>many sightings of the blue furd monster perhaps it did

873
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>escape the depths of the ill fated Mount Saint Helens

874
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>when she erupted, giving a chosen few the chance to

875
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.639
<v Speaker 1>see into a realm. Few will ever have the privilege shoot,

876
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:17.440
<v Speaker 1>or possibly Batsquatch simply reveals itself to those it chooses.

877
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Whatever set of circumstances that brought the winged creature trial forest,

878
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.360
<v Speaker 1>one thing is for certain. Those that have seen Batsquatch

879
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>will not soon forget the encounter. Another strange area on

880
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Mount Saint Helens is Ape Canyon. This area was deeply

881
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.360
<v Speaker 1>affected by the eruption. It's located on the north face

882
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 1>of the mountain, and Ape Canyon is popular with mountain

883
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:44.119
<v Speaker 1>bikers and hikers alike. Decades after the heavily scarred ground

884
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>was able to host visitors, people began flocking to the

885
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 1>area to enjoy the miles of trails Mount Saint Helens

886
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 1>has to offer. However, before the eruption it would disrupt

887
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:56.079
<v Speaker 1>visits Tape Canyon once more for a while. There was

888
00:47:56.119 --> 00:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>an encounter between miners and ape men that caused people

889
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:05.119
<v Speaker 1>to question what really happened. On July sixteenth, nineteen twenty four,

890
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:09.760
<v Speaker 1>a group of miners Gabe La Fever fred Beck, John Peterson,

891
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Marion Smith, and his son Roy Smith reported that they

892
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.159
<v Speaker 1>came under attack by a group of what they described.

893
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:16.599
<v Speaker 2>As ape men.

894
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>The miners told authorities that they came under siege by

895
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.119
<v Speaker 1>the creatures as they were attacked with stones being tossed

896
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.840
<v Speaker 1>at them from atop the mountain down into the gorge

897
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.599
<v Speaker 1>where they were taking shelter in an old prospecting cabin.

898
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:31.079
<v Speaker 1>The men described the ape men as having long, thick,

899
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.400
<v Speaker 1>black fur, elongated ears that stuck straight up, four short

900
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 1>stubby toes, and walked upright like humans, weighing an estimated

901
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:40.679
<v Speaker 1>four hundred pounds plus.

902
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:41.679
<v Speaker 2>Known in the.

903
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot community as the Ape Canyon Attack, the five miners

904
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 1>included a man, as we mentioned, named Fred Beck. They'd

905
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>gone to Ape Canyon to do some prospecting for gold.

906
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Working from sun up to sundown. The men were forced

907
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.159
<v Speaker 1>to collect water from a nearby spring as it was

908
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the only water source. They also used the same spring

909
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>for cleaning up and washing their clothing. One hot evening,

910
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the men returned to their cabin and kneading water, one

911
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 1>of them headed to the spring to collect it. Having

912
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>arrived at the spring, the man noticed a rather large

913
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 1>footprint that at first was thought to be a human footprint,

914
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 1>but upon closer inspection, the man saw just how large

915
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:20.559
<v Speaker 1>the print was. He measured nineteen inches, much too.

916
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Large to be that of any human.

917
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:24.599
<v Speaker 1>With that, the man made his way back to the

918
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:26.480
<v Speaker 1>cabin and informed the other men as to what he

919
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>had discovered at their only water source. Now the other

920
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:31.719
<v Speaker 1>men were a little upset at the blatant disrespect of

921
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:34.599
<v Speaker 1>someone walking through their water hole. They thought that well,

922
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe their friend was tired he'd gotten the measurement of

923
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the footprint wrong. Driven by anger at the encroachment, the

924
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:43.039
<v Speaker 1>men approached the spring, only to find the nineteen inch

925
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 1>footprint in the sand, just as their friend had reported.

926
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 1>The men started to talk about other word circumstances they

927
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.719
<v Speaker 1>had noticed over the last few days and just hadn't mentioned.

928
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Strange noises came from the mountain above the cabin. The

929
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 1>men thought it must be the sounds of animals, but

930
00:49:57.719 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>now the miners were convinced.

931
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 2>They were being sought by something.

932
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>The footprint that brought all the other clues over the

933
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:06.320
<v Speaker 1>past few days together was a single print, as if

934
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.639
<v Speaker 1>whatever had left it had dropped from the sky and

935
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>went back up one miner recounted to the local newspaper.

936
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Then came the thumping sounds, as if something was beating

937
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 1>on its chest that the men began to hear. This

938
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:20.719
<v Speaker 1>really set the miners on edge. After the thumping noises

939
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:24.199
<v Speaker 1>would come what was described as a shrill whistling that seemed.

940
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 2>To come from everywhere.

941
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>By this point, they were too scared to fetch water alone.

942
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.440
<v Speaker 1>The miners would go in pairs to venture to the spring.

943
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 1>On one occasion, Fred Beck was asked by Hank, one

944
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:35.719
<v Speaker 1>of the other miners, to accompany him to the watering hole.

945
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Rifle in hand, the two men made their way to

946
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the water and started to quickly fill canteens. As Hank

947
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:45.519
<v Speaker 1>stood guard, he noticed a dark figure behind a pine tree.

948
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:49.159
<v Speaker 1>This allegedly hairy bipedal beast darted off behind a tree

949
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:52.239
<v Speaker 1>before Hank could get a shot off, but soon after

950
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:54.800
<v Speaker 1>he saw the first creature, a second one was sighted.

951
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:58.679
<v Speaker 1>This time, Hank raised his weapon, aimed and fired. Fred

952
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>watched Bart fly from the tree his Hank almost hit

953
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:04.039
<v Speaker 1>his mark. The hairy ape like beasts quickly slipped back

954
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 1>into the cover of the forest within seconds before the

955
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>men had another chance to fire.

956
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Upon them.

957
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 1>The men took note of how fast the creatures were running,

958
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.440
<v Speaker 1>far too fast to be human. Making haste back to

959
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the cabin, The men convened and decided to pack it

960
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>in and head home. It was too late in the

961
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.039
<v Speaker 1>evening for them to leave that night, so it was

962
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>decided they would wait until morning. The camp consisted of

963
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 1>a few tents and a log cabin that had just

964
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:29.880
<v Speaker 1>been erected a few months prior to the men living

965
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.079
<v Speaker 1>semi permanently at the camp. There wasn't much to their shelter,

966
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>but it was not meant to be an indefinite living situation.

967
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 1>The main structure the cabin, was a small, one room

968
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>shelter where the men could stay dry should inclement weather hit.

969
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>As the men discussed the final details of their return trip,

970
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:48.360
<v Speaker 1>smoking their pipes and maybe sipping some whiskey, it was

971
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.159
<v Speaker 1>agreed they would leave it first light. With the details

972
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.480
<v Speaker 1>planned out, the weary miners turned in for the night

973
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:57.519
<v Speaker 1>and fell fast asleep. That didn't last long, however, The

974
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.159
<v Speaker 1>men all woke with a start of something large lum

975
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:03.079
<v Speaker 1>the side of their cabin. The cabin was under attack.

976
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>The first hit caused the chinking between two logs to

977
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>fall onto the floor. This created a hole in the

978
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 1>wall where they could look out and see what was happening.

979
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Hank was able to see three creatures that looked like

980
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.079
<v Speaker 1>the one he'd taken a shot at in the forest,

981
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 1>and they were circling around the structure. Another hit. This

982
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.039
<v Speaker 1>time Hank was able to see what was striking the cabin.

983
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.400
<v Speaker 1>The epe men were using boulders to slam into the walls,

984
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>dislodging the chinking in several more places. Hank and Fred

985
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.599
<v Speaker 1>grabbed the only thing they had his protection and took aim.

986
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Shots rang out through the darkness, and all fell quiet,

987
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:39.199
<v Speaker 1>but for a few moments. Another rock hit the roof.

988
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>The creatures were trying to drive the men out of

989
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the shelter and were doing a good job of scaring

990
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:47.119
<v Speaker 1>them in the process. The two men in charge of

991
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.320
<v Speaker 1>firing only did so when rocks hit the cabin. Their

992
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.840
<v Speaker 1>thoughts were that if they only fired when under active attack,

993
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:56.559
<v Speaker 1>the ape men would stop the attack and lead them alone.

994
00:52:56.679 --> 00:52:59.199
<v Speaker 1>The attacks continued, though, on the roof of the cabin

995
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and from all side. The miners were doing all they

996
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:04.800
<v Speaker 1>could to hold off these attackers while making an escape plan.

997
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>The door began to rattle. This was their last line

998
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of defense. They knew the door was the weak spot

999
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and wouldn't hold much longer. Another shot rang out and

1000
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:18.079
<v Speaker 1>a whole rip to the door, and then all fell silent.

1001
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:21.320
<v Speaker 1>The men used this time to try and reinforce the door,

1002
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and as they tried to decide their next move, all

1003
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>heads turned and washed us. One of the creatures reached

1004
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>through a hole in the cabin wall and grabbed an axe.

1005
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Bred grabbed the axe and turned the head so that

1006
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:34.719
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't fit through the hole, then used his weapon

1007
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.239
<v Speaker 1>to fire at the ape man. This was the last

1008
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.719
<v Speaker 1>bold attempt from the would be intruders to gain access

1009
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to the cabin, although the attack wasn't over. As the

1010
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 1>night wore on, the attacks were further apart and shorter,

1011
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>but they continued. A few more rocks were thrown and

1012
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.880
<v Speaker 1>chest thumping along with growls, followed by the shrill whistles.

1013
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Exhausted but refusing to give into the incursion, the men

1014
00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:00.039
<v Speaker 1>held the beasts soft until daybreak. As the sun he

1015
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>peeked over the mountains, the attack stopped altogether. The sun

1016
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was all the way up before they felt safe enough

1017
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:09.079
<v Speaker 1>to venture outside. The cabin and went outside to see

1018
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that rocks littered the ground all around it. The cabin

1019
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 1>held together, but just barely. Holes littered the walls and roof.

1020
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:17.880
<v Speaker 1>It looked like a war zone where the rocks had

1021
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:20.679
<v Speaker 1>knocked so many holes in it. There was no sign

1022
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of the ape men, but Fred and Hank knew what

1023
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 1>they had observed earlier the day before. These creatures knew

1024
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.639
<v Speaker 1>how to blend into the forest very well. Knowing this,

1025
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Fred looked upon the mountain and spotted an ape man

1026
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 1>skulking around the tree line about one hundred and fifty

1027
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:38.639
<v Speaker 1>yards away. Fred pocked up his weapon and fired several

1028
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:40.760
<v Speaker 1>times and apparently hit the target.

1029
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:42.000
<v Speaker 2>He saw the.

1030
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Beast drop roll and fall into the canyon below, taking

1031
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:47.719
<v Speaker 1>only what they had in their hands at the moment.

1032
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 1>The men made haste and ran for it. Luckily, they

1033
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.679
<v Speaker 1>made their way to Hank's poored vehicle and back home

1034
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to Kelso Washington. Left shaken and confused about what happened

1035
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 1>to them, The men reported everything that it occurred. People

1036
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:03.639
<v Speaker 1>were shocked at the story and glad the men were

1037
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>able to escape, and as many stories where events are unexplainable,

1038
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the men were heavily scrutinized by citizens and the media.

1039
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:15.000
<v Speaker 1>When news outlets from Seattle, Washington, and Portland, Oregon came

1040
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to interview the miners and get details of the story,

1041
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the men agreed to take the reporters to the area

1042
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 1>where they'd encountered the ape men. Upon arrival, they were

1043
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 1>able to find visible footprints, and these were photographed as evidence.

1044
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:30.360
<v Speaker 1>These helped make the miner's story more credible. They searched

1045
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:32.079
<v Speaker 1>a good while for the body of the ape man

1046
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Fred and shot, but there was no remnants or anything

1047
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:38.880
<v Speaker 1>in the gorge called Mountain Devils. In the story, the

1048
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.599
<v Speaker 1>newspapers ran the miners accounts of the events they endured

1049
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that night. Many people saw the story as credible now

1050
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that photographic evidence was taken by reputable source. The story

1051
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:51.360
<v Speaker 1>of the ape men of Mount Saint Helens and the

1052
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:54.639
<v Speaker 1>miners that came under attack by them still had its skeptics,

1053
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 1>but there were also people that believed in it. The

1054
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 1>men never returned to prospecting ape now. As a side note,

1055
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>there is a story about a group of Boy Scouts

1056
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that were supposed to camping on Mount Saint Helens at

1057
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the time. Many people believe these boy Scouts were the

1058
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:13.079
<v Speaker 1>source of the attack. However, that wouldn't account for the

1059
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:15.800
<v Speaker 1>hairy arm that reached through and grabbed the axe, or

1060
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:18.599
<v Speaker 1>the large figures of the beasts that the men observed

1061
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:22.159
<v Speaker 1>through the cracks of the walls. Nineteen seventy eight, Fred

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00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Beck penned a book called I Fought the Eight Men

1063
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:27.719
<v Speaker 1>of Mount Saint Helens. The book was short, just five

1064
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.320
<v Speaker 1>chapters long, but it was almost a word for word

1065
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:33.039
<v Speaker 1>what the miners had reported back in nineteen twenty four.

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00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Beck was at that point seventy eight years old and

1067
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>with not a care in the world about skeptics, and

1068
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:42.039
<v Speaker 1>he told the story in his own words. In an interview,

1069
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Beck also explained that he was a Clairvorian since childhood

1070
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and as an adult, had a premonition about prospecting Mount

1071
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Saint Helens. In his vision, they were able to find

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00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the mine as they were led by Native American spirit

1073
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:56.679
<v Speaker 1>and told who to blast a hole for the entrance.

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00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:59.400
<v Speaker 1>The spirit told Beck that they were to follow a

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00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:01.639
<v Speaker 1>white arrow and it would show the men exactly where

1076
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:04.599
<v Speaker 1>to go. In the book, Beck claimed that all the

1077
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 1>men saw this vision and stated that the spirit told them,

1078
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.119
<v Speaker 1>because you have cursed the spirit leading you you will

1079
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>be shown where the gold is, but it is not

1080
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 1>given to you. Beck goes on to explain that the

1081
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:17.599
<v Speaker 1>men felt like the mind would let them take some gold,

1082
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>but not all of it, and that's exactly what happened.

1083
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Beck stated, there is a pocket of gold in that cliff,

1084
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.000
<v Speaker 1>if someone is fortunate enough to find it. We gave

1085
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:29.119
<v Speaker 1>up looking for it. But asked why only certain people

1086
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 1>can see other worldly beings. Beck had this to say,

1087
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>when the condition and vibration is at a certain frequency,

1088
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:39.800
<v Speaker 1>they the beings can easily, for a time, appear in

1089
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.519
<v Speaker 1>a very solid body. They are not animal spirits, but

1090
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 1>also like the intelligence of a human consciousness. They simply

1091
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:50.000
<v Speaker 1>exist on a different plane than most humans, and some

1092
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.760
<v Speaker 1>of us are more sensitive to those vibrations they exist on.

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00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Next up have the story of ape Cave, which is

1094
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:02.440
<v Speaker 1>nearer ape Canyan. Nineteen forty seven, a logger by the

1095
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 1>name of Lawrence Johnson was driving along in his vehicle

1096
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:10.000
<v Speaker 1>when a sinkhole swallowed his truck. Thus Ape Cave was discovered. However,

1097
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:12.199
<v Speaker 1>the cave wouldn't be explored until three years later by

1098
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a boy scout troop made up by lava flow. The

1099
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.360
<v Speaker 1>cave had never been explored by anyone before. The troops

1100
00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:21.320
<v Speaker 1>stepped inside after being lowered over a seventeen foot overhang.

1101
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.400
<v Speaker 1>One by one, the Boy Scouts would explore the very

1102
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>fragile inner workings of the cave system that is about

1103
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.719
<v Speaker 1>two miles long, and eventually named it after their sponsor

1104
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:33.400
<v Speaker 1>of the exploration and troop. The Saint Helen's apes towards

1105
00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:36.199
<v Speaker 1>the cave are available to the public. But before Warren,

1106
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:38.840
<v Speaker 1>rumor has it that if you spend overnight in the

1107
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:44.079
<v Speaker 1>cave that you will lose your mind. And now let's

1108
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.599
<v Speaker 1>look at some of the missing person cases on Mount

1109
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Saint Helens. In May of nineteen fifty, a man named

1110
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Jim Carter, along with a climbing party of twenty people,

1111
00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:57.039
<v Speaker 1>started the day on Mount Saint Helens at Ape Canyon,

1112
00:58:57.639 --> 00:58:59.840
<v Speaker 1>ready to climb, ski and have a day of fun.

1113
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:03.519
<v Speaker 1>On the descent, Carter left the party at the Dogshead

1114
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:05.519
<v Speaker 1>area to take a picture of the larger group as

1115
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:09.320
<v Speaker 1>they skied past him. Being an experienced skiered mountain climber,

1116
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the others were in agreement that he would be the

1117
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:12.639
<v Speaker 1>best person to ski ahead of the group.

1118
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Moments later, the.

1119
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Larger group witnessed Carter skiing at a high rate of speed,

1120
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:22.840
<v Speaker 1>jumping crevasses and taking chances that were deemed reckless. They

1121
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.679
<v Speaker 1>said that he Carter was going like the devil down

1122
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the slope, seemingly frightened of something. Witness stated it wasn't

1123
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:33.119
<v Speaker 1>long before he was out of sight of the others.

1124
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Despite the group looking for Carter, he was nowhere to

1125
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:41.559
<v Speaker 1>be found. Carter was reported missing later that day. The

1126
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:44.400
<v Speaker 1>search for thirty year old Jim Carter lasted for weeks.

1127
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:48.199
<v Speaker 1>Authorities discovered a discarded film box for roll of camera film,

1128
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:52.119
<v Speaker 1>but nothing else was ever found. A playing trace Carter's

1129
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.920
<v Speaker 1>route as he'd skied right down canyon walls where rangers

1130
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:58.199
<v Speaker 1>and search teams couldn't reach. The search party thought they

1131
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 1>would find the man at the bottom of the canyon,

1132
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:02.840
<v Speaker 1>but his tracks went from the walls across Ranger Creek

1133
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and the Ranger station and into the thick of the forest.

1134
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Bob Lee, an experienced mountaineer and a member of Seattle

1135
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Mountain Search and Rescue, stated, every time I got cut

1136
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.360
<v Speaker 1>off from the rest of the search team and was alone,

1137
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:17.559
<v Speaker 1>I felt like something was watching me. There was something

1138
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:20.079
<v Speaker 1>strange on the high slopes of the mountain. It was

1139
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:23.119
<v Speaker 1>the most eerie experience I've ever had. I could feel

1140
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:26.079
<v Speaker 1>the hair on my neck standing up. It was eerie.

1141
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I was unarmed except for my ice ACKs, and believe me,

1142
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I never let go of that. We combed the canyon

1143
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.840
<v Speaker 1>one into the other for five days. Sometimes there were

1144
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.360
<v Speaker 1>as many as seventy five persons in the search party,

1145
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:42.599
<v Speaker 1>but no sign of Carter Wars equipment was ever found.

1146
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.480
<v Speaker 1>After two weeks, the search will scaled back and then

1147
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:49.400
<v Speaker 1>called off. Over seventy years as passed as Jim Carter

1148
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:53.639
<v Speaker 1>went missing under baffling circumstances in nineteen fifty, no sign

1149
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.840
<v Speaker 1>of him or his equipment has ever been found. If

1150
01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.559
<v Speaker 1>you'll recall, this disappearance was in the same area as

1151
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the tack on the Miners in nineteen twenty four, and

1152
01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:04.159
<v Speaker 1>one of the theories put forth was that he was

1153
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 1>possibly being chased by a Sasquatch that caused him to

1154
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:11.320
<v Speaker 1>take such a reckless ski run down the mountain. On Saturday,

1155
01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:14.719
<v Speaker 1>August eleventh, twenty eighteen, a Great Subaru was found in

1156
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:16.639
<v Speaker 1>the parking area of Blue Lake Trail by search and

1157
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:20.119
<v Speaker 1>rescue teams after forty year old Matthew Methanie asked to

1158
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 1>borrow the car from his friend to go for a

1159
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:24.800
<v Speaker 1>hike at Mount Saint Helens. After the man didn't return,

1160
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:28.159
<v Speaker 1>he was reported missing. A group of some forty volunteers

1161
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:31.320
<v Speaker 1>scoured the mountain looking for the Ohio man. On the

1162
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:34.000
<v Speaker 1>sixth day Matthony was missing, he was spotted on a

1163
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ledge and rescued. In an interview with authorities, he stated

1164
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:41.360
<v Speaker 1>amazingly that he had survived by eating berries and bees.

1165
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:44.280
<v Speaker 1>It was reported that Mathony had been a boy scout

1166
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:46.719
<v Speaker 1>when he was younger and used his training to help

1167
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 1>himself while lost. He was in surprisingly good condition and

1168
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.679
<v Speaker 1>was released from the hospital the next day. The Sheriff's

1169
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.199
<v Speaker 1>department utilized tracking dogs, drones, and a helicopter in the search.

1170
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:04.360
<v Speaker 1>On July twenty first, twenty twenty one, twenty five year

1171
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.320
<v Speaker 1>old Army First Lieutenant Brian Yang, who had been missing

1172
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.440
<v Speaker 1>on Mount Saint Helens, was found deceeised. You'd only been

1173
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 1>missing for a couple of days. The last time Yang

1174
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:16.119
<v Speaker 1>was seen was on the Cold Water trailhead. Previous Sunday

1175
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:19.440
<v Speaker 1>reports state that the twenty five year old fell down

1176
01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:23.079
<v Speaker 1>a steep embankment to his demise. No further information is

1177
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 1>available in this case and then arguably the most memorable

1178
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:33.360
<v Speaker 1>incident ever to happen on Mount Saint Helens. On May eighteenth,

1179
01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:37.079
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty fifty seven people lost their lives after Mount

1180
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Saint Helens erupted earlier that day, people were evacuated and

1181
01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:45.079
<v Speaker 1>others were warned to leave the area. One of the victims,

1182
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:49.199
<v Speaker 1>eighty three year old Harry Randall Truman, refused to leave

1183
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.480
<v Speaker 1>his home of over fifty years, seen as a hero

1184
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:54.880
<v Speaker 1>in a folk legend due to his bravery for staying

1185
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and trying to defend his property from the monster, this

1186
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:01.199
<v Speaker 1>time the volcano about to engulf his home. Truman gave

1187
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:04.719
<v Speaker 1>an interview to National Geographic just days before the volcano erupted,

1188
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:08.199
<v Speaker 1>where he stated that I'm going to stay right here

1189
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.440
<v Speaker 1>because I'll tell you why my home and my expletive

1190
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:14.960
<v Speaker 1>life's here. My wife and I we both allowed years

1191
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:18.199
<v Speaker 1>and years ago that we'd never leave Spirit Lake. We

1192
01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:21.079
<v Speaker 1>loved it. It's a part of me, and I'm a

1193
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>part of that expletive mountain. Truman resided at the lodge

1194
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:27.320
<v Speaker 1>with his late wife that he lost just a few

1195
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:31.639
<v Speaker 1>years before the eruption and their sixteen rescue cats. Sadly,

1196
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Truman and all his cats perished in the eruption.

1197
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:36.559
<v Speaker 2>No remains wherever found.

1198
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Also on the mountain on that ill fated day back

1199
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:43.519
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty was thirty year old volcanologist David A.

1200
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Johnston.

1201
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Johnson was on the mountain monitoring the activity at the

1202
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Cold Water two station that was thought to be a

1203
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.920
<v Speaker 1>safe area and away from the destruction path should an

1204
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:56.760
<v Speaker 1>eruption happen. Tragically, this was not the case, and Johnston

1205
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:57.679
<v Speaker 1>perished in the eruption.

1206
01:03:58.840 --> 01:03:59.119
<v Speaker 2>David A.

1207
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Johnson was in FLA through the United States Geological Survey

1208
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the USGS. The last transmission from the Cold Water two

1209
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:11.760
<v Speaker 1>station was from Johnston, who spoke into the microphone Vancouver, Vancouver,

1210
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:17.400
<v Speaker 1>this is it. His remains were never found. An observatory

1211
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 1>was erected in the area where Cold Water two once

1212
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:23.079
<v Speaker 1>stood in remembrance of Johnston. He was credited with saving

1213
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:25.840
<v Speaker 1>thousands of lives after warning the Forestry Service of the

1214
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:29.679
<v Speaker 1>dangers going on within the volcano weeks before the eruption occurred.

1215
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:39.079
<v Speaker 1>The Forestry Service took heed and evacuated the park. Hello friends,

1216
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:41.639
<v Speaker 1>this video we're going to bring you the story of

1217
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a Canby man, his daughter, and dog were all rescued

1218
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:50.079
<v Speaker 1>after forty eight hours being lost. Now we're so used

1219
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.119
<v Speaker 1>to hearing stories and accounts of people who go missing

1220
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:55.199
<v Speaker 1>in the wilderness somewhere in the world and they're never

1221
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:57.960
<v Speaker 1>seen or heard from again. It's almost like it's a

1222
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:03.440
<v Speaker 1>common occurrence because basic it is. Now, this happens so much,

1223
01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:05.639
<v Speaker 1>and many people don't even realize what's going on.

1224
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:08.000
<v Speaker 2>How is this possible?

1225
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's because of the lack of the reporting, whether

1226
01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:14.599
<v Speaker 1>by authorities in charge, the news media or perhaps even

1227
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:17.559
<v Speaker 1>government entities. We're trying to figure out what's going on

1228
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:20.519
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes so as not to cause a global panic.

1229
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Whatever the reason, it seems we in this community are

1230
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:29.039
<v Speaker 1>still consumed by these occurrences. We've been bringing to your

1231
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:31.760
<v Speaker 1>attention these cases and so much more, and will always

1232
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:35.079
<v Speaker 1>continue to do so. Today though we have one of

1233
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:38.159
<v Speaker 1>our less common occurrences. We'll be talking about a case

1234
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of a man, his daughter, and their dog who are

1235
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:46.039
<v Speaker 1>missing but then rescued alive. Needless to say, it's always

1236
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:48.079
<v Speaker 1>a great day when we can bring in a story

1237
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 1>like this, as it happens far less often than when

1238
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:53.679
<v Speaker 1>someone goes missing. It never comes back or is found

1239
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:59.199
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately deceased. So here it is a can Bey man

1240
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and his family rescued after being lost for a harrowing

1241
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:06.280
<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours in the wilderness. Thirty seven year old

1242
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Peter William Monroe, his seven year old daughter Laila, and

1243
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:13.719
<v Speaker 1>their dog Buck were hiking in Oregon's Mount Hood National

1244
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Forest and we're going to make a family trip of it.

1245
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Peter's wife, Camille, was planning on joining her husband and

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<v Speaker 1>daughter on this trip. The day after they left, Camille

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<v Speaker 1>said she'd arrived at the family's Kinsle Lake campsite to

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<v Speaker 1>join them on a camping trip. When she got there,

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<v Speaker 1>they would nowhere to be found. She assumed they had

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<v Speaker 1>gone on a hike, but when they never returned, she

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<v Speaker 1>said off the next morning to search for them. Camille

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01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:39.920
<v Speaker 1>had no luck and called police after she found Peter's

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<v Speaker 1>truck at the Devil's Peak trailhead with his keys and

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<v Speaker 1>Laylah's stuffed animals still inside. I just want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out here that once again the name Devil is involved

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01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:53.079
<v Speaker 1>with the place where people have gone missing in the wilderness.

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<v Speaker 1>It was around two thirty in the afternoon on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>September second, twenty twenty, when Camille Monroe called nine to

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<v Speaker 1>one one from the Devil's Peak trailhead report that her

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<v Speaker 1>husband Peter, their daughter Layla, and their dog Buck had

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<v Speaker 1>been missing for at least twenty four hours. Clackham's County

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue coordinators activated a rescue mission

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<v Speaker 1>immediately that same afternoon. The search area featured challenging terrain

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<v Speaker 1>and the mission would soon involve volunteers from the CCSOSAAR

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<v Speaker 1>Trail Running Rescue Team, Search Canines, rope teams, and ground teams.

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<v Speaker 1>This included support from Pacific Northwest Search and Rescue Arms,

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<v Speaker 1>Reach and Treats Team, Mountain Wave Emergency Communications, Portland Mountain Rescue,

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan Office of Emergency Management, three hundred and fourth Rescue Squadron,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty fifth Special Tactics Squadron, Special Forces

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<v Speaker 1>Unit of the one hundred and forty second Fighter Wing

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States Air National Guard, and the Hood

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01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:59.960
<v Speaker 1>River Sheriff's Office Air Unit. Over fifty searchers ended up

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<v Speaker 1>participating in the mission. Most of these vaulnteers sprung into

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<v Speaker 1>action immediately upon being called and were eager and willing

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01:08:07.079 --> 01:08:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to help out in any way they could. Searchers worked

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<v Speaker 1>through the night with additional resources from the three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fourth Rescue Squadron and one hundred and twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 1>Special Tactics Squadron, deflowing to the field at about two

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning to assist the tired crews who

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<v Speaker 1>had worked through the night. At approximately six am on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>September third, searchers from the three hundred and fourth Rescue

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<v Speaker 1>Squadron were able to make voice contact with Peter. It's

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<v Speaker 1>at least another hour for them to reach the trio,

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<v Speaker 1>though due to the harsh and difficult terrain. Peter, Layla,

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<v Speaker 1>and Buck were found northwest of the Knsa Lake trailhead,

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<v Speaker 1>in a ravine that was located about one point twenty

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01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:48.079
<v Speaker 1>five miles and approximately twelve hundred feet below where they

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01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:51.279
<v Speaker 1>had first set out for their hike on Tuesday. Peter

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01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:54.640
<v Speaker 1>was injured and unable to walk. Lyla and Buck were

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01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:58.720
<v Speaker 1>in good spirits but needed assistance. Crews quickly began to

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<v Speaker 1>assess and provide. First day, they learned Peter had become

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01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:04.439
<v Speaker 1>lost and had been moving downhill to where he thought

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01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the trail was located, injuring himself in the process. After

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01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:12.239
<v Speaker 1>stabilizing Peter, Cruise began the exhausting process of carrying him

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<v Speaker 1>out of this remote location through the difficult terrain. They

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<v Speaker 1>reached awaiting medical crew on Still Creek Road, about seven

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<v Speaker 1>miles from Highway twenty six near Rhododendron at about twelve

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<v Speaker 1>thirty in the afternoon on Thursday, September third. Peter, Layla,

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01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and Buck were lost and stuck in the wilderness for

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<v Speaker 1>over forty eight hours without supplies. This means no water

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<v Speaker 1>and no food. It's an absolute miracle. They survived relatively unharmed.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter was transported to an area hospital for his injuries.

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01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Buck and Layla were reunited with the rest of the

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01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:50.880
<v Speaker 1>family and were getting some much needed rest. After his

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01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:54.399
<v Speaker 1>rescue and hospitalization, Peter spoke to reporters from the Backward

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01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.680
<v Speaker 1>ambulance and made this statement, I just want to thank

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01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:00.279
<v Speaker 1>all the first responders and everybody else that helped get

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01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:02.800
<v Speaker 1>me out of that hole. I don't think I would

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01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:05.880
<v Speaker 1>have made it out, especially without any other adults, So I.

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<v Speaker 2>Owe you guys my life. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Search crews want to offer special thanks to a nearby

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01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:14.520
<v Speaker 1>construction crew working on the Still Creek Bridge repair project.

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01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:18.359
<v Speaker 1>The construction crew sped up the rescue operation by using

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01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:21.319
<v Speaker 1>a crane to hoist the Special Forces vehicles over the river.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities mentioned that without this help, it would have taken

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01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:29.159
<v Speaker 1>an estimated additional four hours to take the longer route

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01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to reach the location. This was definitely a dramatic and

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01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:36.920
<v Speaker 1>dangerous rescue operation, and the crews and volunteers who participated

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01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:41.039
<v Speaker 1>our true heroes. We're glad to report that Peter, Leila,

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01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and even Buck are all fine and have suffered no

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01:10:43.520 --> 01:10:47.199
<v Speaker 1>long term injuries or lasting effects from this terrifying ordeal.

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01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:51.039
<v Speaker 1>They endured went out for a simple family hike. It

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01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:53.600
<v Speaker 1>just goes to show you please be careful out there,

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01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:56.039
<v Speaker 1>whether a loan, or with a group, or even with

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01:10:56.119 --> 01:10:58.680
<v Speaker 1>your pet. No one is immune to the rough and

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01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:02.159
<v Speaker 1>tumble ways of mother and needs nature. Always be prepared.

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01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Peter and his family were extremely lucky or survived and

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01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:11.079
<v Speaker 1>been rescued. Well, friends, there you have it. What do

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01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:15.039
<v Speaker 1>you think about this amazing story? Please be careful out there.

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01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to your comments, but please keep it

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01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:23.159
<v Speaker 1>friendly and respectful. In the meantime, be good to yourselves

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01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and each other, and I'll see you just a little

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01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:30.279
<v Speaker 1>farther on down the trail. I'm Steve Stockton and I'll

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01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:38.479
<v Speaker 1>talk to you next time. Hello, friends, welcome to our

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<v Speaker 1>latest video. Today we bring you the strange tale of

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<v Speaker 1>the mysterious Skeletons of Crater Lake.

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<v Speaker 2>Join Us.

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<v Speaker 1>Crater Lake is the only National park in the state

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01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of Oregon. Just like all the other National parks throughout

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01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the United States, this one is known worldwide for its

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01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:03.439
<v Speaker 1>breathtaking landscape and stunning scenic views. This is certainly a

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01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:06.239
<v Speaker 1>well deserved reputation, as if you've ever been there, you

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01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:09.079
<v Speaker 1>would know how absolutely gorgeous the park is as a whole.

1344
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:12.279
<v Speaker 1>It's a humbling experience when you're out there in nature,

1345
01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's so incredibly awe inspiring yet eerie all at

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01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the same time. Crater Lake is special. Stands out from

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01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:23.560
<v Speaker 1>other parks for a few reasons. The one we're going

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01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 1>to discuss today is perhaps the most bizarre. This interesting

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01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:31.479
<v Speaker 1>characteristic isn't widely known. It has mostly gone undiscovered by

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01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the millions of people who flock there from all over

1351
01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the world every single year. Park officials and whoever's in

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01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:40.680
<v Speaker 1>charge definitely wants it to stay a secret as well,

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01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:45.720
<v Speaker 1>because well, it's a lethal secret. Quite literally, most of

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01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.720
<v Speaker 1>us in this community know it's not unheard of for

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01:12:48.840 --> 01:12:51.880
<v Speaker 1>people visiting national parks to accidentally take a deadly plunge

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01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:54.600
<v Speaker 1>off of a cliff, or get stuck and possibly freeze

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01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to death in the common blizzard conditions depending on the season,

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01:12:57.640 --> 01:12:59.960
<v Speaker 1>of course, or even to crash their cars into revene.

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01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Besides airplanes and helicopters falling out of the skies, well,

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01:13:05.079 --> 01:13:07.199
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, there have even been far more

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01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:10.399
<v Speaker 1>homicides than one could possibly imagine out there under the

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01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 1>clear blue skies and beautiful story nights. Well, many of

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01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:17.319
<v Speaker 1>those wonderful topics would make interesting discussion in one of

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01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:20.399
<v Speaker 1>our videos, and perhaps may come very soon. Today, we're

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01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:24.520
<v Speaker 1>going to discuss the tragedies that have left some things behind,

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01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:27.039
<v Speaker 1>and it seems to be happening in the Craterlke far

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01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:30.800
<v Speaker 1>more often than anywhere else. Today we're going to talk

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01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:35.680
<v Speaker 1>about the skeletons of Crater Lake Park. Let's start with

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01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:38.720
<v Speaker 1>what's known as the case of the fandom Flyer. In

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01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the summer of nineteen seventy, Dave Panabaker took a job

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01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:45.760
<v Speaker 1>as a seasonal ranger and Craterlake National Park During that

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01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:48.760
<v Speaker 1>first summer there. They've kept hearing talk about a lesser

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01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:53.159
<v Speaker 1>known side of the park, one that interested him greatly. Apparently,

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01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:56.199
<v Speaker 1>there was a dark blue Grumman F six F Hellcat

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01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:58.640
<v Speaker 1>fighter that had crashed a month or two after World

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01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.760
<v Speaker 1>War Two and in the park as it was unable

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01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to be recovered and moved out. The hell Cat took

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01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:07.039
<v Speaker 1>a fast and hard landing with only a short hike's

1379
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.199
<v Speaker 1>distance to cover in order to be able to see it.

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01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Dave decided he just had to go out there and

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01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:15.039
<v Speaker 1>check it out. One of its machine guns was even

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01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:17.600
<v Speaker 1>embedded in a cliff face, and the blue wing with

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01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:21.439
<v Speaker 1>its white star insignia, was clearly visible through the underbrush.

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01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Everyone simply assumed that the pilot had perished immediately upon

1385
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:29.399
<v Speaker 1>impact or perhaps even while pair shooting out. Either way,

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01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Dave decided to go for the hike on his day

1387
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:36.159
<v Speaker 1>off to the cliff where this aircraft was supposedly located. However,

1388
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:39.960
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't long before the seasonal ranger found himself lost

1389
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:43.720
<v Speaker 1>while trying to locate the wreckage. Now we see this

1390
01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:46.359
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Someone goes out on a hike in

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01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:49.159
<v Speaker 1>the deep wilderness, even during the day, and once they

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01:14:49.199 --> 01:14:52.119
<v Speaker 1>get turned around, they continue on and just hope for

1393
01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:56.199
<v Speaker 1>the best. Dave Panabaker, however, was no fool, and it

1394
01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>heard too many horror stories to keep on going. Before

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01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:02.479
<v Speaker 1>he got his bearings on where exactly he was and

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01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:05.840
<v Speaker 1>where he was going. He remembered some advice given to

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01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:08.279
<v Speaker 1>him on his first day and decided to follow it

1398
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:10.800
<v Speaker 1>lest he become another victim of the park itself and

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01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:13.600
<v Speaker 1>perhaps end up a subject in one of our videos.

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<v Speaker 1>He remembered a man named Herman Walk's voice and could

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01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:19.640
<v Speaker 1>clearly hear it in his head, saying, when endangered out

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01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:23.600
<v Speaker 1>run in circles, scream and shout. So he sat down

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01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:25.520
<v Speaker 1>on a nearby log and thought about how he was

1404
01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:28.600
<v Speaker 1>going to get himself out of this predicament. He still

1405
01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:30.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see the plane wreckage, but didn't want to

1406
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.960
<v Speaker 1>become another park statistic. He thought long and hard about

1407
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:37.680
<v Speaker 1>his options and how he could get himself back to civilization,

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01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.439
<v Speaker 1>perhaps to try another time when he was possibly more

1409
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:45.520
<v Speaker 1>well prepared. As he sat and thought, though, he suddenly

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01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.640
<v Speaker 1>felt like he was no longer alone. He got to

1411
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:53.720
<v Speaker 1>distinct feeling that someone or something was watching him. He

1412
01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:57.399
<v Speaker 1>looked up and immediately locked eyes with the culprit. Rather,

1413
01:15:57.479 --> 01:15:59.800
<v Speaker 1>he locked eye sockets with it, as it was not

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01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:03.439
<v Speaker 1>human being, at least not anymore what a skeleton that

1415
01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:07.680
<v Speaker 1>was lying underneath the nearby log and staring straight at him. Now,

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01:16:07.720 --> 01:16:10.119
<v Speaker 1>there is no complete description of what the reaction of

1417
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:12.920
<v Speaker 1>this young and fairly new seasonal ranger was when he

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01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.800
<v Speaker 1>found what turned out to be the skeletal remains of

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01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:19.119
<v Speaker 1>a long lost World War II pilot. I can only

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01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:22.520
<v Speaker 1>imagine he was terrified and possibly in shock, even as

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01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:25.199
<v Speaker 1>his own mortality kicked into high gear in his mind.

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01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:28.960
<v Speaker 1>He was, as previously stated, fairly new to his job

1423
01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:31.399
<v Speaker 1>and might have realized that he was almost in the

1424
01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:34.760
<v Speaker 1>same predicament as his long loss deceased friend there under

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<v Speaker 1>the log staring at him.

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<v Speaker 2>Both were lost and nobody knew who they were.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he panic and realize that if nobody could find

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01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the pilot, then perhaps nobody could find him either. He

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01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:49.000
<v Speaker 1>was already fighting the urge to panic. As it was,

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<v Speaker 1>we can only speculate, but as you would imagine, it

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01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:56.600
<v Speaker 1>was most likely quite the dramatic scene. Some time later,

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<v Speaker 1>during an oral history review, David remembered, the chief wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>too happy with me when I talked to him in

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01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:04.319
<v Speaker 1>his office and pulled the skull out of my pack

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01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:07.319
<v Speaker 1>and put it on his desk. A Whidby Island Naval

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01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:09.800
<v Speaker 1>investigative team came to the park a few days later.

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<v Speaker 1>The Navy authorities were able to make a positive idea

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<v Speaker 1>of the skull using dental records. The skeleton belonged to

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01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Ensign Frank LOOPO from New Jersey. Ensign Loopho had been

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<v Speaker 1>part of a squadron of seven Hellcats lying from Redmond

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01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to Red Bluff, California, in December of nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>All seven of them have been struggling with some of

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01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:33.439
<v Speaker 1>the weather, and the cloud ceiling was at about six

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<v Speaker 1>thousand feet, less than two thousand feet above the rugged

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01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:40.600
<v Speaker 1>terrain they were overflying. The ceiling steadily lowered until the

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<v Speaker 1>planes were at five hundred feet above the tree tops.

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01:17:44.119 --> 01:17:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Snow one missed had closed in and the pilots could

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<v Speaker 1>no longer see the ground. They were flying purely on

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01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:54.000
<v Speaker 1>instruments now. When they emerged from the fog, however, there

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01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:58.439
<v Speaker 1>were only six of them. The Navy returned the skull

1451
01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to Frank's mother, who, finally, after waiting twenty five years

1452
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:04.399
<v Speaker 1>to find out what had happened to her son was

1453
01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:07.800
<v Speaker 1>able to lay him to rest rested in peace in

1454
01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Saint Loupho. Then, on February twenty sixth, nineteen seventy five,

1455
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:17.199
<v Speaker 1>a woman named Jeane Nunn dropped off her husband Dave,

1456
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 1>their daughter and grandchild at the airport now called the

1457
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Crater Lake Klamath Regional Airport, in order for Dave to

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01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:27.600
<v Speaker 1>fly them back home to Salem in his private plane.

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01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:31.319
<v Speaker 1>It was a Blue Cessna one eighty two. Two seventeen

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01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:34.119
<v Speaker 1>year old student pilots named Jim Pryor and Matt Perkins

1461
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:35.800
<v Speaker 1>were also in the plane so as to get some

1462
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:38.800
<v Speaker 1>more flight hours to put towards their eventual pilot's license.

1463
01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:43.119
<v Speaker 1>The plane landed in Salem without a hitch, and after

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01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:46.479
<v Speaker 1>saying their goodbyes, the passengers got off and Dave and

1465
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the two students trapped back in for their return trip,

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01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:53.439
<v Speaker 1>a short flight back to Klamath Falls. Jean wasn't feeling

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01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>well that night and decided to turn into bed early.

1468
01:18:56.880 --> 01:18:59.439
<v Speaker 1>She later said she awoke too early and with a

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01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:03.479
<v Speaker 1>bad feet. She was quoted as saying, I woke up

1470
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:06.159
<v Speaker 1>at nine thirty pm with a sensation of a hand

1471
01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:09.159
<v Speaker 1>on my leg, she recalled in a two thousand interview

1472
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:13.800
<v Speaker 1>with Lee Beach of the Klamath Falls Heralded News. She continues,

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01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I looked at the clock, I knew. I called the

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01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:19.760
<v Speaker 1>airport and told him the plane had gone down at

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01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:22.159
<v Speaker 1>nine to twenty PM, and that he had died at

1476
01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:25.520
<v Speaker 1>nine point thirty. They confirmed that they had lost the

1477
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.600
<v Speaker 1>plane off the radar at nine twenty at eleven thousand feet.

1478
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:32.399
<v Speaker 1>She knew from the start her husband hadn't made it

1479
01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:36.399
<v Speaker 1>out alive. Now, that creepy yet peaceful feeling of that

1480
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>hand on her leg that night didn't stop the search

1481
01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:39.600
<v Speaker 1>parties from.

1482
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Going out and looking for Dave, Matt and Jim.

1483
01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:45.399
<v Speaker 1>It was all in vain though, as indeed, not a

1484
01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:47.760
<v Speaker 1>single shred of evidence as to where the three ended

1485
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:52.159
<v Speaker 1>up could be found. Most speculated that they had ended

1486
01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:55.039
<v Speaker 1>up in the lake and were far beyond anyone's help anyway.

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01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:59.319
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't ntil seven years later that a hiker who

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01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:01.760
<v Speaker 1>was traveling us outside of the park's boundary near a

1489
01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Huckleberry campground, spotted what looked to be a severely mangled

1490
01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:09.479
<v Speaker 1>small aircraft wreckage. The hiker approached the rag cautiously and

1491
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:13.279
<v Speaker 1>indeed found three skeletons, slumped over and still inside the cabin.

1492
01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Though Jean had been right all along, it was a

1493
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.279
<v Speaker 1>sure relief that her husband and his students were now

1494
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:23.199
<v Speaker 1>found and could be put to a proper burial. Identification

1495
01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:26.279
<v Speaker 1>of the three skeletons was easy enough. All three had

1496
01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:29.680
<v Speaker 1>their identifications in their wallets, and perhaps the most tragic

1497
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.239
<v Speaker 1>ball was a small folded piece of paper Dave had

1498
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:35.760
<v Speaker 1>in his wallet and said, lose not thine air speed,

1499
01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:42.079
<v Speaker 1>lest the ground rise up and smite thee. Indeed, decades later,

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01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Jean published a book about her spiritual journey through the

1501
01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:48.439
<v Speaker 1>trauma of losing her husband. It's titled We Fly Away.

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01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Yet another strange occurrence in the park. In nineteen seventy four,

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01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:58.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen year old Virginia resident Charles mccullor ordered a bus

1504
01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:00.520
<v Speaker 1>in his home state and this I had to take

1505
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:04.439
<v Speaker 1>an extended vacation. He would be taking buses and also

1506
01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:08.119
<v Speaker 1>hitch hiking across and throughout the country. He left behind

1507
01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:12.039
<v Speaker 1>his blood Volkswagen, but being a dedicated and very talented

1508
01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:15.279
<v Speaker 1>amateur photographer, he took his camera equipment and set off

1509
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:20.720
<v Speaker 1>on his adventure. In late January nineteen seventy five, Charles

1510
01:21:20.840 --> 01:21:23.399
<v Speaker 1>was staying with a friend in Eugene, Oregon, but left

1511
01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to go on what was only meant to be a

1512
01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>short excursion, hitch hiking to Crater Lake to take winter photos.

1513
01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:31.439
<v Speaker 1>He told his friend he planned to be back in

1514
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:34.439
<v Speaker 1>two days, but he never returned and was in fact

1515
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:38.279
<v Speaker 1>never seen or heard from alive again. Once the friend

1516
01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:41.640
<v Speaker 1>reported him missing, the FBI got involved, and Charles's father

1517
01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:44.319
<v Speaker 1>dropped everything and hopped on a plane took a flight

1518
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:47.119
<v Speaker 1>to the West Coast. He spent the entire summer at

1519
01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Crater Lake searching for his son, to no avail. There

1520
01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:53.079
<v Speaker 1>was no trace of Charles until a full year after

1521
01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:56.560
<v Speaker 1>he'd gone missing. At the end of the season, almost

1522
01:21:56.680 --> 01:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>exactly one full year later, two hikers just happened to

1523
01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:02.880
<v Speaker 1>have taken a wrong turn. They ended up in a

1524
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:05.439
<v Speaker 1>little travel canyon where they came upon a dirty, old,

1525
01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:07.920
<v Speaker 1>ripped backpack with a car key in one of the

1526
01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:11.640
<v Speaker 1>side pockets. It was the key to charles blood Volkswagen

1527
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:13.720
<v Speaker 1>he had left home at the start of his journey west.

1528
01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Immediately upon the discovery of the pack being reported, Mark

1529
01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:21.479
<v Speaker 1>rangers started a search effort. A horse patrol took only

1530
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours to locate Charles's remains. Now here's

1531
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:28.119
<v Speaker 1>where this particular story takes a turn for the worst,

1532
01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:30.279
<v Speaker 1>if you can believe that, and a little on the

1533
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:34.279
<v Speaker 1>sinistern bizarre side too, if we're being honest. Charles's body

1534
01:22:34.479 --> 01:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>was found twelve miles away from the trailhead, and on

1535
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the day he disappeared, there were one hundred and two yes,

1536
01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's one hundred and two inches of new snow on

1537
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the ground at Crater Lake.

1538
01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:47.800
<v Speaker 2>How did a.

1539
01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Nineteen year old kid totally inexperienced in dealing with the

1540
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:53.880
<v Speaker 1>rough and rugged train of the wilderness, let alone the

1541
01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:56.359
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half feet of fresh snow on the

1542
01:22:56.399 --> 01:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>ground that those one hundred and two inches equal. It's simple,

1543
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:03.840
<v Speaker 1>not possible, and that's according to many professionals who claimed

1544
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.399
<v Speaker 1>even they couldn't do it, especially not with the lack

1545
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:10.399
<v Speaker 1>of skill and gear that Charles had. The condition of

1546
01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the skeleton itself is another thing that left everyone scratching

1547
01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:17.399
<v Speaker 1>their heads. While his foot bones were in his socks,

1548
01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:21.199
<v Speaker 1>which is common, his jeans were completely empty of legbones

1549
01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:24.119
<v Speaker 1>except where the broken off ends of his shin bones

1550
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:27.640
<v Speaker 1>were sticking up. His jeans were unbuttoned, but the rest

1551
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:30.159
<v Speaker 1>of Charles was completely gone, as if the rest of

1552
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:34.039
<v Speaker 1>him had simply vanished or melted away. Again, this doesn't

1553
01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>seem possible. The only other thing ever found was the

1554
01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:40.439
<v Speaker 1>crown of his skull about twelve feet away. For the

1555
01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>rest of him, his shirt, coat and boots were also

1556
01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>never found. The empty pair of pants we was sitting

1557
01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>on a log quite erily with nothing but socks and

1558
01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>footbones inside. Soma speculated that perhaps he was hypothermic, and

1559
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>we have heard about people doing strange things when dealing

1560
01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:01.159
<v Speaker 1>with that particular condition. This made perfect sense, as the

1561
01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:04.199
<v Speaker 1>stripping off of clothing in a disoriented and confused state

1562
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>is extremely common. Also, it's the Cascades in the wintertime,

1563
01:24:08.920 --> 01:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>so most likely more than a few foxes came along

1564
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:14.479
<v Speaker 1>and helped the feet detached from the body, and probably

1565
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:19.880
<v Speaker 1>more so what makes this so strange well the location

1566
01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>of the body, for one, has previously mentioned missing boots

1567
01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and socks. Charles had some rather expensive equipment with him

1568
01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to take the winter photographs. Well, none of that was

1569
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:36.640
<v Speaker 1>ever found either. Durating theory is that perhaps Charles hess

1570
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>to ride with the wrong person who sawlved this expensive

1571
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>camera equipment. Took a chance and did away with him,

1572
01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and most likely he stole his money too. This alleged

1573
01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:49.239
<v Speaker 1>killer didn't haul the body to the most remote part

1574
01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of Crater Lake and left it sitting on a log,

1575
01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>figuring between the elements and the animals, there would be

1576
01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:57.439
<v Speaker 1>nothing left of poor Charles for the time spring came

1577
01:24:57.640 --> 01:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and most of the hikers and visitors were back around.

1578
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary, the police

1579
01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>ruled Charles had died of natural causes. His father never

1580
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>did believe this, that the cause of his son's death

1581
01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:15.279
<v Speaker 1>was natural, and though he wasn't the only one, and

1582
01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:19.039
<v Speaker 1>so many questions remained, there was never any proof to

1583
01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>be found one way or the other, and once again,

1584
01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the park kept her secrets close early quiet throughout all

1585
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:27.479
<v Speaker 1>these years.

1586
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Is it so hard to.

1587
01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Believe that with all of the millions of acres of

1588
01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>land across the United States and all over the world

1589
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>where people go to to visit for whatever reason or another,

1590
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you would think that there would be more skeletal remains

1591
01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>left behind from some accident or incident or something. No,

1592
01:25:46.600 --> 01:25:49.399
<v Speaker 1>the murders happen, and do bodies get dumped in precisely

1593
01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:53.199
<v Speaker 1>these types of environments, yes, Will we ever have all

1594
01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the answers resoundingly no, But I'm sure at least most

1595
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of us could agree on one thing. Being as we

1596
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:03.079
<v Speaker 1>only spoke of a few of the old skeletons found

1597
01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in this one particular park and area of land, it

1598
01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:08.159
<v Speaker 1>is a bit strange that they were all found in

1599
01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>this one particular what amounts to a small area in

1600
01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>the grand scheme of things, again, considering the vastness of

1601
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:21.319
<v Speaker 1>the great woods and outdoors across the world. Well, folks,

1602
01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>there you have it. What do you think of these

1603
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>strange cases from Crater Lake. I look forward to your comments,

1604
01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but please keep it friendly and respectful. In the meanwhile,

1605
01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:36.199
<v Speaker 1>be good to yourselves and each other. Stay safe out there.

1606
01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have to make one of these

1607
01:26:37.800 --> 01:26:38.560
<v Speaker 2>videos about you.

1608
01:26:39.920 --> 01:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>That's for me. I'll see you a little farther on

1609
01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>down the trail. I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll talk to

1610
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you next time.
