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<v Speaker 1>You were listening to episode sixty one of GameSpot After Dark.

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<v Speaker 1>On this week's episode, we talk about Genschen impact, cyberpunk Crunch,

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<v Speaker 1>and Peter Parker's face. Hello and welcome to episode sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one of GameSpot After Dark. I'm your host Jake Decker,

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<v Speaker 1>and joining me this week is Lucy James Hi to

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<v Speaker 1>more Hussein, Hello that, and Jean Luke Sipeke.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first episode we've done in a while

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<v Speaker 1>where we haven't had a guest, so this is just

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<v Speaker 1>the core crew for the most part. Kelly's got another

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<v Speaker 1>podcast after She's going to be on the on Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Petties like, oh the one countdown, So she's taken a

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<v Speaker 1>break this week to I don't know, save her podcasting voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say that to make sure to

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<v Speaker 1>check that out. But anyway, this week, what have we

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<v Speaker 1>all been playing? Did you want to start?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So, I I had a little meltdown in slack

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<v Speaker 4>when I was trying to remember what I've actually done

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<v Speaker 4>this week. I did play a bit of Mafia on

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday morning. Forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think I.

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<v Speaker 4>Never played it originally? I was digging it, honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 4>quite a chill game. I was very encouraged. You said

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<v Speaker 4>last week that it was relatively short. I just enjoyed

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<v Speaker 4>driving around basically. But the main thing that I've been

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<v Speaker 4>enjoying this week is the Great British Bakeoff is back.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not calling it that shite American name that you

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<v Speaker 4>have to call it because of Pillsbury or whatever. It

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<v Speaker 4>is Great Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>The American name.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what's the shite American name?

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<v Speaker 4>The Great British Baking Show?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, you just said it.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I just said it, But I won't refer

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<v Speaker 4>to it when I in my in my review quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 4>I won't be referring to it as a bakeoff. So this, like,

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I think I've talked about it in the

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<v Speaker 4>pot cast maybe last year, but like, Bakeoff is one

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<v Speaker 4>of those wholesome shows that just instantly cheers me up,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm so glad they're all on Netflix here. I

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<v Speaker 4>am one of those people who I'll watch Bakeoff, but

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<v Speaker 4>I never get the urge to bake. I will just

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<v Speaker 4>buy my baked goods. I don't need to go through

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<v Speaker 4>all that stress about soaky bottoms and watching the oven

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<v Speaker 4>don't need it, but we were watching it on Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a small group of us watching it, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>just a very wholesome show. And usually you can tell

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<v Speaker 4>who you're gonna hate immediately when you watch it, but

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<v Speaker 4>this season is kind of magical because I didn't hate

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<v Speaker 4>any of them. Also, in terms of like bake off,

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<v Speaker 4>there was so much drama in the first episode someone

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<v Speaker 4>accidentally knocked over someone else's plate of cakes just at

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<v Speaker 4>the technical as well, and then the show stopper at

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<v Speaker 4>the end, so that's like they get a brief, they

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<v Speaker 4>get time to practice. It was maybe one of the

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<v Speaker 4>weirdest briefs ever seen. It was make a cake of

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<v Speaker 4>someone who you're inspired by, and if you go online

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<v Speaker 4>and look at something they.

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<v Speaker 6>Are specifically, it's a bust. It's a bust cake of them.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there was David Bowie just looked I don't know, sad,

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<v Speaker 4>squashed like and the thing is as well, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>very wholesome. Everyone's laughing and I'm not critiquing because I

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<v Speaker 4>know for sure that I couldn't do it. David Bowie

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<v Speaker 4>just looked so sad. I thought Freddie Mercury looked actually

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<v Speaker 4>really good. Because he was way more stylized, or like

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<v Speaker 4>most of them tried to do more realistic takes didn't

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<v Speaker 4>really pan out. But I think my favorite one had

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<v Speaker 4>to be Tomm de Along from Link on It two

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<v Speaker 4>and it looked like you know that music video for

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<v Speaker 4>Sledgehammer where he's all made of wax and it's all

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<v Speaker 4>I'm moving around. It reminded me of that, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was it's such a good show. I'm so glad at

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<v Speaker 4>his back.

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<v Speaker 6>That Tom DeLong cake is genuinely horrifying. It's ah, who

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<v Speaker 6>would you make.

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<v Speaker 2>A cake of? If you had what celebrity would you pick?

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing that came to my mind was you

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<v Speaker 1>know that Gerald busts where he's like playing.

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<v Speaker 5>Gwent and it's just like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably what I do. It would look terrible, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing that came to my mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, who would I make? Might make? I mean, I can't,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't do David Bowie. Oh it annoyed me. I

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<v Speaker 4>got like very push glasses up nose because they said, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we're making Ziggy Stardust. But actually it was a Laddin insane.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>The lightning bolt across his face so that one's already gone,

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<v Speaker 4>but like you could do David Bowie and maybe his

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<v Speaker 4>life on.

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<v Speaker 3>Mars Labyrinth or Labyrinth all the Hair.

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<v Speaker 4>No I would do Nikola Tesla from The Prestige, David

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<v Speaker 4>Boy's greatest role Tesla. You can't do that accent for

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<v Speaker 4>ship Kenny, but no. I mean, like Bacop's back is

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<v Speaker 4>Fantastics on Netflix every Friday.

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<v Speaker 5>M h nice.

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<v Speaker 6>It's really fun enjoyable to watch the bit where the

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<v Speaker 6>old cake knocking incident came. It was so good, like

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<v Speaker 6>spoilers for it, but like it's a lady called Sura

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<v Speaker 6>and she's like adjusting or she's trying to like shoe

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<v Speaker 6>a fly away.

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<v Speaker 2>From a case.

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<v Speaker 4>She's already an early favorite by the way, because she

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<v Speaker 4>walks her cat around like a dog.

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<v Speaker 6>She like recoiled after like flicking this fly away and

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<v Speaker 6>someone was walking up just behind her and like knocked

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<v Speaker 6>the entire tree down, and then she was devastated. And

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<v Speaker 6>then she went on to win that challenge. So everyone

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<v Speaker 6>was like praising her and being like.

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<v Speaker 7>You're so good, well, don this is amazing, and she's

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<v Speaker 7>like she's like on the verge of tears because she's

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<v Speaker 7>just like ruined someone else's but like they chilled and

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<v Speaker 7>it was all nice after that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's never gonna be bin gate because bin

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<v Speaker 4>Gate had repercussions that went out into the media. It

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<v Speaker 4>was literally front page news.

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<v Speaker 6>You should explain bin gatepinate and I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So bin gate they were making. Was it a

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<v Speaker 4>baked Alaska? It was something with ice cream? Anyway, there

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<v Speaker 4>was this one guy, Oh, and he had his ice

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<v Speaker 4>cream in the freezer, but I think he'd put it

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<v Speaker 4>in someone else's freezer. So the woman whose freezer he'd

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<v Speaker 4>put it in took it out and just left it

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<v Speaker 4>on the side. So obviously it all melted. But like

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<v Speaker 4>he kind of went, why didn't you tell me? Like

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<v Speaker 4>why would you just leave it on the side? Obviously

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<v Speaker 4>kind of sabotage. But instead of him, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 4>to work around it and explain to the judges, he

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<v Speaker 4>just took it and just chucked it in the bin.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it became bin gate because it was like

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<v Speaker 4>did she do it on purpose? Avatage? Here? Was it

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<v Speaker 4>actually a mistake? Her name was Diana And then she

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<v Speaker 4>actually ended up leaving the competition a couple of weeks later,

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<v Speaker 4>like she didn't get voted out. She left I think

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<v Speaker 4>because of external pressures.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a lot of drama in a show that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a lot of drama, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing is the enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're watching it probably worth doing. Not that they

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<v Speaker 6>need a shout out. If anyone doesn't need the shout out.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the McElroy family. But they have a They have

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<v Speaker 6>a companion podcast called Bacon, which is very good and

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<v Speaker 6>it's back as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course they have a podcast for it. They've got podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Travis.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just Travis.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the Yeah, it's not the entire Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the entire.

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<v Speaker 1>Still though, between the three of them, like every time

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to my brother, my brother and me, there's

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<v Speaker 1>ads for other their other fans only podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a dynasty.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it, truly is.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the rock a fellow of podcasts.

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<v Speaker 8>I'd say, So it isn't today National Podcasting Day or something.

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<v Speaker 8>I was seeing that on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why we're doing it on a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh of course, yes, I thought this, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Tomorrow. What have you been up to?

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<v Speaker 6>So I've been playing a game called hades Haiti's Nuts,

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<v Speaker 6>which is I know you guys talked about it last week,

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<v Speaker 6>but phenomenal game, excellent, having a lot of fun with it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I'm doing pretty well at it, Like I

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<v Speaker 6>haven't done that many runs, but I get really far

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<v Speaker 6>each time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was listening to another podcast I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>which one.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like, and they were like, oh, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 6>you get to like Elysium within like twenty runs, you're

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<v Speaker 6>doing really well. I think I got to Elysium on

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<v Speaker 6>like my third or four off run, and like, I

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<v Speaker 6>think I got really lucky with my setup. I love

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<v Speaker 6>the Shield because it's got that distant spam thing and

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<v Speaker 6>if you like put like a Zeus's boon on it

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<v Speaker 6>and it electrocutes everyone, and then you add a few

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<v Speaker 6>other modifiers onto it, it's incredibly powerful. So I've been

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<v Speaker 6>doing really lame tactics because it's fun to do that,

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<v Speaker 6>like just using the kind of projectile part of the shield.

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<v Speaker 6>The Captain America part of using it and keeping people

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<v Speaker 6>at distance and crowd controlling and then getting in doing

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<v Speaker 6>a few strikes and getting out very like Dark Souls

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<v Speaker 6>style style of prey.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're playing pretty much.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like Meg, I beat on my first try because

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<v Speaker 6>of dark souls, Like I very quickly realize that you

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<v Speaker 6>can get three strikes in before she charges her like

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<v Speaker 6>void blade move that as it like it envelops the area.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like in.

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<v Speaker 6>Three strikes out to two dashes and then it would

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<v Speaker 6>take her when she started dashing. All I had to

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<v Speaker 6>do was move one dash back and it would put

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<v Speaker 6>me in perfect position to do like a dashing strike,

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<v Speaker 6>which did extra damage. And like I just mopped the

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<v Speaker 6>floor with her. Yeah, and I did the same with

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<v Speaker 6>like the Love Life and Boss as well. I was

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<v Speaker 6>just like these boss it feels kind of easy, which

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<v Speaker 6>sounds like a weird flex, But I haven't really had

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<v Speaker 6>any trouble with that game.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the great thing about Meg though, is that

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<v Speaker 1>Meg is pretty easy. But I always mess up on

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<v Speaker 1>her because I I just think like, oh, this is easy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get overconfident and I stop dodging correctly and

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<v Speaker 1>then I die and I'm like, I just I just

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<v Speaker 1>beat her, Well, why did I die again? And it's

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<v Speaker 1>because the game is being like, yo, you still gotta

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<v Speaker 1>respect this this boss just because just because it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean you can't sleep on the job.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And like the the actual narrative stuff that the

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<v Speaker 6>way it unfolds as you keep coming back, and even

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<v Speaker 6>meg recognizing the way that you're you're coming back and

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, like people have been heaping praise upon it already,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think probably one of the biggest or the

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<v Speaker 6>ever seen, like that Dead Cells is one of them. Like,

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like Dead Cells they did really good with that.

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<v Speaker 6>They were very open and very clear about the things

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<v Speaker 6>that we're doing. But it feels like Super Giant went

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<v Speaker 6>They had in game timers to make sure, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>counting down to the next content update and that kind

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Danny did his no clip documentary kind of

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<v Speaker 6>So just unsurprising that Super Giant has put out an

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<v Speaker 6>So I played that, and then I checked out a

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<v Speaker 6>Intensely anime from the outset to the point where like

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's the kind of anime that I'm not super into,

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<v Speaker 6>like cute, cute, like lots of cute little characters, high

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<v Speaker 2>I find it quite greating after a while.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's a fascinating game because it's like it's a

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<v Speaker 6>mishmash of so many different games and it seems to work.

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<v Speaker 6>It's free, first of all, on on most platforms PS four,

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<v Speaker 6>Gatcha mechanics that allow you to unlock new characters to

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<v Speaker 6>then on top of that, it feels like Dragon Quest

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<v Speaker 6>where it's like the open kingdom that you can go

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<v Speaker 6>I met this kid early on and I put like

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<v Speaker 6>and the pigeons flew away, and he was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>you made the pigeons fly away. And I was like, oh, sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>just like daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what, out of curiosity, how's the

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<v Speaker 1>so you mentioned there are Gosha mechanics micro transaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I noticed someone in the discord server was saying

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<v Speaker 1>that they'd played a couple hours and hadn't seen any

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I the only reason I know it's there is

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<v Speaker 6>because I had to look it up, and that is

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<v Speaker 6>what I found. I've not actually encountered it any in

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<v Speaker 6>any way yet. I'm like maybe three or four hours

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<v Speaker 6>in because I've been I think you get to like

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<v Speaker 6>the main first kingdom about two hours in or so

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<v Speaker 6>less than maybe that, like an hour, but like I've

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<v Speaker 6>been running around and just like exploring and figuring things out,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's not shoved it in my face. The only

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<v Speaker 6>way I realized that it's there is one I searched

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<v Speaker 6>it to. I went on PlayStation Store and tried to

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<v Speaker 6>see how it's monetizing the game, and this there's a

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<v Speaker 6>currency that you can buy. But it hasn't prompted me

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<v Speaker 6>to spend the money or anything like that. It's shown

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<v Speaker 6>me like areas where clearly you could do it, Like

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<v Speaker 6>it's like, hey, go to this screen. This is the

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<v Speaker 6>outfit screen where you can change characters visual style. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>there's like a character roster screen which is like really

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<v Speaker 6>big and your character's like two characters right in the

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<v Speaker 6>corner like really small icons say like oh, clearly it's

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<v Speaker 6>going to fill this entire screen with loads of people,

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<v Speaker 6>and you can like switch between characters on the fly.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like map to the dpad.

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<v Speaker 6>And the two characters I have is one is the

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<v Speaker 6>main character I picked, is the boy, and he's kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like link ish where he's got a sword and

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<v Speaker 6>also has the ability to like do certain magic. And

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<v Speaker 6>the other one like you tap right on the dpad

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<v Speaker 6>and you become this archer girl who's also it's not

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<v Speaker 6>like palette swaps.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all part of the story.

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<v Speaker 6>Like the archer girl is like the one works for

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<v Speaker 6>like the the god in in the local kingdom, and

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<v Speaker 6>like you can use her for distance attacks and that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of stuff. And there's like a weird story on follow.

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<v Speaker 6>So it feels like Dragon Quest. It feels like a

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<v Speaker 6>breath of the world. It feels a bit final, fancy ish,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's it also seems like a fully fledged thing,

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<v Speaker 6>like not like a you know, a tone down in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of like production value. It's got good music, it's

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<v Speaker 6>got impressive, like cool visuals. It's trying to do a

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<v Speaker 6>lot with it that the actual world mapp massive. I've

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<v Speaker 6>not explored even a fraction of it. And there's loads

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<v Speaker 6>of kingdoms and stuff like that. It seems like towns

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<v Speaker 6>and people to talk to. Everyone has got something different

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<v Speaker 6>to say, and you can also have conversations with a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of them instead of just hairing a bit of

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<v Speaker 6>dialogue and then moving on. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>it's going to be any good, but I'm just intrigued

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<v Speaker 6>at this game that has kind of come out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 6>It is free, and it's like an amalgamation of various

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<v Speaker 6>other good games but somehow still makes.

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<v Speaker 2>It work for itself.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like easy to play because it has literally costs

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<v Speaker 6>you literally nothing, So I would recommend, like, if you're

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<v Speaker 6>in the mood for an RPG j RPG, it's free,

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<v Speaker 6>download it, play it. It's worth taking a punt at.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I haven't downloaded it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I will, but I was like

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<v Speaker 1>waiting on Twitter for people to be like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually like only two hours a game play and then

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<v Speaker 1>you have to pay for this, you have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for that, or they're still developing parts of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually been kind of intrigued because based on the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like that's not really the case.

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<v Speaker 5>So at least like that.

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<v Speaker 6>When I tweeted about it, I had like people were

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<v Speaker 6>replying and saying like what game is this? And then

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<v Speaker 6>other people would jump in and be like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 6>is gains an impact, and a lot of people are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm twenty five hours in and I haven't paid a

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<v Speaker 6>single penny, and like it's not asking me to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I really do wonder how they how they kind

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<v Speaker 6>of made it work, and and I think they're trying

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<v Speaker 6>to do that thing where it's like just make the

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<v Speaker 6>thing compelling and hope that people like it enough to

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<v Speaker 6>to kind of play it and and and spend money

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<v Speaker 6>on it. I want to what is the name of

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<v Speaker 6>the development team. It's got a really funny name. It's

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<v Speaker 6>like it's going to annoy me now, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 6>like Futuristic Game Developer Team or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, really, well.

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<v Speaker 5>It sounds like a trick, Like it doesn't seem like.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it looks like when you when you look at

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<v Speaker 6>the actual developer and the name and everything, it looks

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<v Speaker 6>like one of those RPGs that is advertised to.

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<v Speaker 2>You on like Instagram ads. Yeah, like a scam.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you start playing it and you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 6>this is actually it's actually quite legit, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>not to talk about those games, but most of them

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<v Speaker 6>do suck, but like this, this feels legit and it

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<v Speaker 6>feels like really really cool and interesting. I definitely want

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<v Speaker 6>to check out more of it. The deem the developers

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<v Speaker 6>called me me hoyo mejo yo. Yeah, but they have

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<v Speaker 6>got uh okay mejo yo, the Otaku Saved the World.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a company good for that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think that's I think that might be the

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<v Speaker 6>publisher more than the developer.

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<v Speaker 2>The developers got I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 6>Check me me ho yo because it connects to like

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<v Speaker 6>a central server and it's like, hey, we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna connect your person account to the central server because

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<v Speaker 6>we want you to. It's got multiplayer and stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I've not actually tried it, but it's definitely got that.

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<v Speaker 6>But like they are like a well known developer or so,

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<v Speaker 6>they've got loads of like games. I think of the

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<v Speaker 6>of the similar ILK, but I think they are the

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<v Speaker 6>publisher because there's a certain other games that are listed

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<v Speaker 6>under Otaku Saved the World as the company. So I

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<v Speaker 6>think that's my favorite game developer Name of the Year,

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<v Speaker 6>Saved the World.

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<v Speaker 4>I just like the really boring ones like Blizzard team.

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<v Speaker 2>Fo yeah R and D Unit one.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, what's the foul Fantasy seven sixteen name?

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<v Speaker 3>It was something real?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's like I forgot what was it called.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gone.

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<v Speaker 6>It's gone, but yeah, it's it's it's worth taking upon

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<v Speaker 6>on like it's it's literally they're free, so you've got

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<v Speaker 6>nothing to lose. I will say up front, it hits

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<v Speaker 6>you with like extreme anime bullshit where like you are

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<v Speaker 6>too cute sa the characters fighting an evil looking lady

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<v Speaker 6>and she's like talking about humanity needs to change, and

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<v Speaker 6>like my eyes glazed over almost instantly, and then like

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<v Speaker 6>once it starts kicking off, I like snap back into it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was fun.

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<v Speaker 6>It's got it's slightly rough around the edges, but it's fine.

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<v Speaker 8>Creative Business Unit three, that's the one that's my favorite

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<v Speaker 8>game developer.

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<v Speaker 6>My ones are also like, excuse me, the ones where

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<v Speaker 6>it's like the game is or the team is named

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<v Speaker 6>after the game that they're known for, so you gotta

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<v Speaker 6>go talk with studios Ninja Ninja and that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>like very close to the I'd love it if rock

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<v Speaker 6>Steady renamed like Team Batman or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Or like the Coalition, right, like I guess it's not yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but still three industries.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious if the Coalition, like ever doesn't make a

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<v Speaker 1>Gears game and then it's why are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Name doesn't really fit anymore? But Jean Luke, what about you?

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<v Speaker 8>I've also been playing Mencient Impact. I don't really much

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<v Speaker 8>to add outside of what Tam said other than I'm

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<v Speaker 8>intrigued so far. I also am pretty like wary of

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<v Speaker 8>like I think the voice acting is kind of whatever,

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<v Speaker 8>like the high pitched like stuff does not work for

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<v Speaker 8>me at all. If my girlfriends into it though, so

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<v Speaker 8>she's enjoying it, so I'm like, Okay.

426
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<v Speaker 6>I changed the voice to Japanese because I was like

427
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<v Speaker 6>it would be better at Japanese.

428
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<v Speaker 2>It's way well, it's even it's like extreme, and I

429
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<v Speaker 2>was like no.

430
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<v Speaker 9>No, yesout to like oh my god, You're like, oh

431
00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:44.359
<v Speaker 9>please relax, and then you have to like read at

432
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<v Speaker 9>the same time, if you're not like super familiar with

433
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<v Speaker 9>what they're saying, just stick with the English one.

434
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<v Speaker 3>What about Chinese because it is a Chinese studio.

435
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. Yeah, I didn't try I didn't try that one.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's maybe that's it.

437
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

438
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<v Speaker 8>I think the only thing I'm wary of is I

439
00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:02.759
<v Speaker 8>combat's kind of not really doing it for me. It's

440
00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:05.839
<v Speaker 8>like it's very so the combats like very elemental based,

441
00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:08.000
<v Speaker 8>which is cool because the idea of you picking your

442
00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:11.079
<v Speaker 8>different characters is that you're you know, like, oh, okay,

443
00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:12.960
<v Speaker 8>these enemies have water, so I should switch to one

444
00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.160
<v Speaker 8>of my characters that has lightning and then use lightning.

445
00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:17.519
<v Speaker 3>Attacks, so like that's Pokemon.

446
00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:20.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and like that stuff feels good, like in terms

447
00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:23.519
<v Speaker 8>of like like on paper, but something about the actual

448
00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.279
<v Speaker 8>feel of the attacks doesn't really hit for me. Like

449
00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:31.200
<v Speaker 8>they feel kind of stiff, and I feel like I'm

450
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<v Speaker 8>just kind of wailing on them sometimes, Like I feel

451
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<v Speaker 8>like enemies have like really large health bars. So I

452
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<v Speaker 8>don't know how like satisfying I find the combat to feel.

453
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<v Speaker 6>I kind of feel like you might develop as you

454
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<v Speaker 6>get more characters, I think. So I think the lack

455
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<v Speaker 6>of satisfy I agree with you. I don't think you're satisfying,

456
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<v Speaker 6>but I think they might try and make up for

457
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<v Speaker 6>it with like interesting mobs. It does that thing where

458
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<v Speaker 6>the first thing you do is literally go into an

459
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<v Speaker 6>encampment that looks like the first Barcobblian encampment from Breath

460
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<v Speaker 6>of the World, and like it.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Teaches you how to shoot fire.

462
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<v Speaker 6>So I'm hoping once we get more characters, it's like

463
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<v Speaker 6>switching between them and what they want.

464
00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:05.839
<v Speaker 3>You to do totally, and they do.

465
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<v Speaker 8>I did mess with that a little bit because there

466
00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:09.920
<v Speaker 8>is like a screen where you can like see like

467
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<v Speaker 8>what characters are available for the day, and they let

468
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<v Speaker 8>you try them out in like a little combat challenge,

469
00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.079
<v Speaker 8>so you do get to actually like see if you

470
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<v Speaker 8>like that character before you you put down the money

471
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<v Speaker 8>on them, which is pretty cool.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Is there a way to unlock these characters without spending

473
00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>money like just a lot of grinding izers.

474
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<v Speaker 3>I think so because because the.

475
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<v Speaker 8>Currency you need, I believe you can get that currency

476
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<v Speaker 8>on your own. Like I when I tried to buy

477
00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:38.319
<v Speaker 8>I like to see how I would buy one. It

478
00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:40.880
<v Speaker 8>made me go like three currencies deep where it's like, Okay,

479
00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:43.799
<v Speaker 8>you don't have this one currency you can buy. You

480
00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:46.119
<v Speaker 8>can get that currency for three hundred of these currencies,

481
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:47.920
<v Speaker 8>but you're one hundred and sixty shorts, so you'll need

482
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<v Speaker 8>to then spend the real money currency to get that currency.

483
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<v Speaker 8>I'm like, and I was like, Okay, well, I'm not

484
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:56.599
<v Speaker 8>gonna buy any of this right now, but it does

485
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<v Speaker 8>seem like you can actually get characters through grinding the game.

486
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<v Speaker 5>That's good.

487
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I will say, just developers, please give us two currencies

488
00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:11.640
<v Speaker 1>tops one end game one micro transactions if there needs

489
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<v Speaker 1>to be.

490
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<v Speaker 5>We don't need anything more. For the love of God,

491
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:15.599
<v Speaker 5>please agreed.

492
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<v Speaker 2>Agreed.

493
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<v Speaker 8>So other than that, I I finished Tell Me Why,

494
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.400
<v Speaker 8>which I had played the first episode back last when

495
00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:27.640
<v Speaker 8>I was on the podcast, I think two weeks ago

496
00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:31.519
<v Speaker 8>or something like that. Right, I finished the other two episodes.

497
00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:33.839
<v Speaker 8>I really enjoyed it. I highly recommend it if no

498
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:35.759
<v Speaker 8>one's had a chance to check it out. It's really good.

499
00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I it didn't. It didn't. It was like I didn't quite.

500
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:43.200
<v Speaker 8>Get there to like this is my new favorite, like

501
00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:46.680
<v Speaker 8>of like the dope nod like kind of like you

502
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:50.200
<v Speaker 8>know Telltale style games, Like it got really close. I

503
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 8>think there were just like a couple about getting into

504
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.039
<v Speaker 8>like spoilers, I guess like there were a couple story

505
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:58.039
<v Speaker 8>beats that like didn't quite pan out the way I

506
00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 8>wanted to or like more like the the execution, like

507
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.119
<v Speaker 8>like you A lot of the games about like confronting

508
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:06.640
<v Speaker 8>characters about like stuff that's happened in the past, and

509
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:11.559
<v Speaker 8>like the way those confrontations happened didn't feel as satisfying

510
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:11.839
<v Speaker 8>to me.

511
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:12.559
<v Speaker 3>As they could have.

512
00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:15.799
<v Speaker 8>But overall, I really really liked that game, and I

513
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:20.519
<v Speaker 8>think it's got some amazing characters. Shout out to my

514
00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:23.759
<v Speaker 8>more my boy Michael, not r Michael, but Michael in

515
00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:28.799
<v Speaker 8>the game. Michael, who's this wonderful, wonderful gay lad that

516
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:33.359
<v Speaker 8>you can you can share a nice ice fishing moment

517
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.000
<v Speaker 8>with And it's beautiful and I love it. So, uh,

518
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 8>really really liked that game. I highly recommend it. I

519
00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:41.400
<v Speaker 8>still don't hear enough people talk about it, so I

520
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:44.240
<v Speaker 8>want to do it justice and say, if that is

521
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 8>your kind of game, you should check it out.

522
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<v Speaker 5>It's free on game Pass. Well you know, it is

523
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 5>free as it can be on game pass, right.

524
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:52.839
<v Speaker 3>It is on game Pass. Yeah.

525
00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I forgot playing Rambo six Seach as well recently.

526
00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:01.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that is a funny experience. I'm playing on PC now,

527
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:04.599
<v Speaker 6>so oh, actually I can actually shoot stuff and kill it.

528
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're doing pretty well then, Okay.

529
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:10.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my count strike muscles are kind of like limbering

530
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:10.559
<v Speaker 6>up again.

531
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 2>It feels good.

532
00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the game test, though, it seems like you've

533
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 1>been playing something else on game Pass to gen Luke.

534
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.720
<v Speaker 8>Oh, yeah, I started playing or the New Ri because

535
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.480
<v Speaker 8>I just like that one passed me by. I don't

536
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 8>even remember when it came out. I feel like this

537
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:30.200
<v Speaker 8>year has been such a really man wow rating.

538
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

539
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 5>I actually started playing it literally this week too.

540
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:35.319
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

541
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:36.880
<v Speaker 5>So it's weird that you put this down.

542
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I almost put it down, but I was, like, I

543
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>haven't played enough of this game to talk much about it.

544
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:42.960
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, I've only put it in a couple hours,

545
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 8>and so far it's very much like more Or from

546
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:49.480
<v Speaker 8>what I remember the first game. But like, I mean, god, damn,

547
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:50.920
<v Speaker 8>it is beautiful.

548
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh the music, So the music is so good.

549
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 8>It feels so good, like like just like the fluidity

550
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 8>of like movement of like you know, like doing your

551
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 8>like double jumps and like bouncing back and forth, and

552
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.880
<v Speaker 8>like the combat. It all feels so phenomenal. Like even

553
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 8>though right now where I'm at still is very much

554
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 8>like just more Ory like more Ri's just like phenomenal.

555
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 8>So I'm really enjoying it.

556
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 3>So far the.

557
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 1>First one, if I remember correctly, right, your combat was

558
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>done through this little orb thing right that would fly

559
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>around you. I think, so this one's got the sword.

560
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I forget what it's called, but that is a change

561
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that I like a lot, unless I'm thinking of a

562
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>different game. But it just feels so much more tactile.

563
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember that really throwing me off when I played

564
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>the first one.

565
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 5>It just it didn't feel right.

566
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:43.119
<v Speaker 8>I think you're right, and this one, actually, I there

567
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 8>are other weapons you can get that's really fun. So

568
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 8>like I replaced my sword with like a giant hammer

569
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 8>where it's just got this really long swing but you'll

570
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 8>take out like half an enemy's health in one hit.

571
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 8>And it's like really really satisfying to just like jump

572
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 8>in the air and like time it perfectly and just

573
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.759
<v Speaker 8>hit this bug and they go like flying and then

574
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 8>they'll hit like an environmental spike and it's like I

575
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 8>want to buy all the other weapons now, like see

576
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 8>how they mix it up, because it just like everything

577
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 8>feels really good.

578
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

579
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've only played a couple hours too, and

580
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 1>I I'm super impressed with that. I'm bummed it missed it,

581
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 1>like it kind of passed me by, but I remember

582
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>not enjoying the first one all that much, so it

583
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really high on my list, and I think it

584
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.559
<v Speaker 1>was because of that combat thing. But to be fair,

585
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I only played a little bit of the first one.

586
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 5>Maybe it does open up.

587
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm just you know, I was just stubborn and

588
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 1>only saw the very beginning and didn't test anything out.

589
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, will this seems really good, Like I was

590
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 1>saying earlier, the music is excellent too. But mostly what

591
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing is I'm playing Spalunkie too. I want

592
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to play Hades. I really want to play Hades, but

593
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I like, I start Hades, and I'm like, man,

594
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 1>I kind of just want to do a Spelunky run.

595
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:00.440
<v Speaker 5>So I turn on Spelunkie.

596
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 1>And do a couple runs that turn into you know,

597
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 1>a couple dozen runs, and then next thing I know,

598
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 1>I've been playing for hours and I need to stop.

599
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.119
<v Speaker 5>It's so good, it's so good.

600
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>It's Yeah, I'm sure it seems like that's how most

601
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>people are with Hades, and I'm sure i'd be that

602
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>way too if if I don't know, I don't know

603
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 1>why my brain decided Spelunky over Haites, but for some reason,

604
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 1>that's what happened, and.

605
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 5>That's like all I've been doing.

606
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I did get a chance to play Call of Duty

607
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>season six, though I didn't play the multiplayer or I

608
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:36.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't play the like standard multiplayer. I only played what's

609
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 1>it called war Zone And when they added those like

610
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 1>they added basically a public.

611
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 5>Transit system around the map. Yeah, which is pretty cool.

612
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get to spend much time down there because

613
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 1>I died a.

614
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:54.400
<v Speaker 5>Lot, but I don't know it's still war Zone.

615
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I like that they're adding these I don't know. I

616
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know they're keeping the map fresh in cool ways.

617
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 1>And I know, you know, if you play Fortnite, it's

618
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>probably not that surprising to you, But as someone who

619
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 1>completely missed Fortnite, didn't play it at all, and played

620
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of PUBG to me, it still feels kind

621
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 1>of novel to see the map evolving in all the

622
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 1>ways it does. That being said, like, I don't know,

623
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it's still battle Royale. I can only do a couple

624
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>of rounds and then I'm done because I'm Battle Royaled out.

625
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, oh yeah, no, I.

626
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 4>Mean it wasn't I like a lot, but I have

627
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:32.000
<v Speaker 4>to be in a very specific frame of mind for it,

628
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:36.759
<v Speaker 4>because I'm not very and it can be super discouraging.

629
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know, give me a Watchman.

630
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 5>Win I bring it to the next gen, right, that

631
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.440
<v Speaker 5>would be the one. Uh well, anyway, I.

632
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Think that that covers what we've been playing. So move

633
00:30:52.839 --> 00:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>on to the topics. All right, first big topic this.

634
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 5>Week is cyberpunk Crunch, and no, that is not a serial. Unfortunately.

635
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 3>I thought that joke and I was like, I'm going

636
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 3>to say that stole it.

637
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna put it on like our social thumbnail,

638
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<v Speaker 1>but I was like, I don't know if that's the

639
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 1>best joke to make just on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like people.

641
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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't give me eyepatch and hirate hat.

642
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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

643
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've got to leave at least a day before

644
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 2>you start making light of it.

645
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but anyway.

646
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<v Speaker 1>The story came from a Bloomberg article in CD project

647
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<v Speaker 1>read enforces a six day work week leading up until launch.

648
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<v Speaker 5>Lucy, do you want to read the quote?

649
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So, Adam Badowski tweet out, these last six weeks

650
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 4>are our final sprint on a project. We've all spent

651
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 4>much of our lives on something we care for deeply.

652
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.799
<v Speaker 4>The majority of the team understands that push, especially in

653
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 4>light of the fact that we've just sent the game

654
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 4>to seart and every day brings us visibly closer to

655
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 4>shipping a game we want to be proud of. This

656
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.839
<v Speaker 4>is one of the hardest decisions I've had to make,

657
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 4>but everyone is well compensated for every hour they put in,

658
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 4>and like in recent years, ten percent of the annual

659
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:11.279
<v Speaker 4>profit our company generates in twenty twenty will be split

660
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 4>directly among the team. Ooh, I you know what, the

661
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 4>first time Cyberpunk Moved, I was like, I don't think

662
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 4>that game's coming this year. Like, honestly, I just it

663
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.559
<v Speaker 4>just feels like such a huge, ambitious game that I

664
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 4>was genuinely, genuinely thought it would be pushed to next year.

665
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:36.799
<v Speaker 4>So I'm not saying that I could see this coming,

666
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 4>but it's like, I don't know, you could kind of

667
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 4>see it, But also like the challenges with working from

668
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 4>home obviously, but it's not ideal and I'm while I'm

669
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 4>glad the studio is compensating, like I don't know, the

670
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 4>minetary compensation is not the same as your health and

671
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 4>stress and all that stuff, and So that's the kind

672
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 4>of stuff that I really would like to get more

673
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<v Speaker 4>clarification on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the thing is like the whole point, the thing

675
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 6>that makes this a difficult conversation or the thing that

676
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 6>makes this more of a if it regardless, any sort

677
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 6>of crunch practice is news because people want to report

678
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 6>it and people want to shine a light on it.

679
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 6>But what makes this one extra, like sting, a little extra,

680
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 6>is that they specifically took the time before to say

681
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 6>that we're going to avoid this, and they made a

682
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 6>big deal of saying that they're already working, they're already

683
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 6>committing to the idea that they won't be crunched on

684
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 6>this because they never addressed it back in the day.

685
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 6>But the Witcher three was a project that they crunched

686
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 6>on pretty hard to get it to where it needed

687
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 6>to be, and the results of that are obvious one

688
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.759
<v Speaker 6>of the best games ever created. But in light of that,

689
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 6>they did interviews I think it was Shreyer, and they said, like,

690
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.319
<v Speaker 6>when we're already committed to this not happening, we're going

691
00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 6>to make sure that it's you know, do we're going

692
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 6>to you know, we're going to have that healthy work

693
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 6>life balance and people aren't like in that crunch period.

694
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 6>And then the time since, especially this year, they've started

695
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 6>to they started to like ease off on that and

696
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 6>started to talk about, you know, sometimes is unavoidable. I

697
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 6>don't think it's the the idea. I think the idea

698
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 6>of them saying we're going to pay everyone is fine.

699
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.800
<v Speaker 6>You know, that's required by Polish law, like labor laws

700
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 6>in Poland require you to pay people for overtime. So

701
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 6>it's not like they're doing anything major there. They're doing

702
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 6>the baseline where they pay the people for working the

703
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:38.039
<v Speaker 6>extra time. I think the bigger issue is like it

704
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 6>sets it sends the message that creating a game, or

705
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 6>it perpetuates the idea that games cannot be created to

706
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 6>completion without crunch. Because we have the studio who's making

707
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.679
<v Speaker 6>this huge game, it's said by all intentsive purposes that

708
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 6>it's going to avoid crunch. And after having said that,

709
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 6>it's still ended up in a period where there is crunch,

710
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.840
<v Speaker 6>and there has been according to reports for a sig

711
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:02.159
<v Speaker 6>a con period of time, like people have been crunching

712
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 6>for a year, perhaps even longer. And the message that

713
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 6>sends is to people is like you can't make a

714
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 6>game without this crunch period, which isn't the case. There

715
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 6>are people and there are developers that manage to do

716
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 6>it without crunch, and perhaps the scale of the game

717
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 6>is different, the demands on them are different. But I

718
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 6>think this should be the reason why people are so

719
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 6>up in arms and like very vocal about this being

720
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 6>a negative thing. Is it needs to be driven into

721
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.880
<v Speaker 6>developers and publishers that they need to factor into their

722
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 6>release dates and their kind of timelines, that the game

723
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 6>needs to be made without resorting to this kind of culture,

724
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.599
<v Speaker 6>because you know, crunch isn't like, oh, we're going to

725
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 6>make you work an extra day. It's a sustained lifestyle

726
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 6>where you're forced to think and behave in ways that,

727
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 6>over a prolonged period will degrade you, regardless of how

728
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:58.239
<v Speaker 6>much you're getting paid on a day to day basis

729
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 6>for that work. I think that's the reason why people

730
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 6>are upset about it. It's the idea that it's it feels,

731
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.280
<v Speaker 6>it's the it's the preposition that games being made in

732
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 6>this way are impossible without that intense crunch period at

733
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 6>the end, which I think shining a spotlight on it

734
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:18.800
<v Speaker 6>in this way and pointing out the hypocrisy of saying

735
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 6>you're not going to do it and then doing it

736
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 6>is a step in trying to resolve or at least

737
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 6>get improve the situation around a little better. Again, like

738
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:32.280
<v Speaker 6>from the from the for their part, it seems like

739
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 6>they have made an attempt at avoiding it and the

740
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 6>game got delayed what twice, and so it's clear that

741
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 6>they tried to make it, you know, make the game

742
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.840
<v Speaker 6>and get completed without resorting to it, and ultimately it

743
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:46.719
<v Speaker 6>ended up this way.

744
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>But that's not that's not that's not a.

745
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:51.719
<v Speaker 6>Way to excuse it. You can't excuse it because of that.

746
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 6>If your ambitions are to create the greatest game of

747
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 6>all time, that it's like massive cyberpunk RPG, keep in

748
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 6>mind that the people are still there making it and

749
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 6>that you need to make sure that you're not killing

750
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:03.960
<v Speaker 6>them and burning them out.

751
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, do you think that, you know, do

752
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you think part of this could be because of the

753
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>coronavirus people are working from home? Like obviously that's going

754
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to make things a lot more difficult.

755
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 5>Maybe they maybe.

756
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 1>The reason they delayed it was to not have crunch,

757
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, But they're at this point where like they

758
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 1>can't delay it again right, like like the like, I'd

759
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 1>rather have them delay it than have the game out now,

760
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>but fans would.

761
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 5>Be up in arms.

762
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 1>They'd be super mad because they've been waiting for this

763
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:35.679
<v Speaker 1>game for so long.

764
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 5>It was supposed to.

765
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.559
<v Speaker 1>Come out, you know, way back in April, which to

766
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 1>me sounds absurd now even thinking about it, right, like

767
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they thought they'd hit April seems kind

768
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>of ridiculous. And even having played it, what back in.

769
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 5>When did we play it some more June July?

770
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>It was it was so buggy, Like I obviously very

771
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.800
<v Speaker 1>excited for that game, but I remember playing that and

772
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>being like, oh, there is a lot of work that

773
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 1>still needs to be done and I and I think

774
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 1>they ended up delaying it. That was around the time

775
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 1>they delayed it, which made sense because I was like, yeah,

776
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>probably needs that extra time. Uh, but like I don't know, Yeah,

777
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>it's so tricky. It's a it's a bummer that they've

778
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:20.639
<v Speaker 1>they've done this though, because like you're saying, after they

779
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 1>said that, hey, we aren't gonna do this, we are

780
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:25.559
<v Speaker 1>going to try our best to avoid this, and then

781
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 1>ultimately it came down to them asking their people to work,

782
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, an extra day every week. I feel like

783
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 1>that just sets a bad precedent and like empowers other

784
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>studios who who also engage in that practice and don't

785
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 1>live in places like Poland where they are required by

786
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 1>law to pay people, you know, Like I yeah, it's

787
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 1>just like they could have been that like shining example

788
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 1>to the to the rest of the industry of like

789
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>this is how you can do it, and like they

790
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately were not.

791
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Able to do that, and like that really sucks.

792
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's difficult too, right because you hear

793
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>about like you Besoft as of late apparently has been

794
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>doing pretty well about not enforcing crunch on their workers,

795
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>at least.

796
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 5>Based on what I've heard.

797
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I was gonna say something spicy, you can say it.

798
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 6>But myself has been doing other things that require exactly

799
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 6>it's been doing.

800
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Some other thing doing for a change.

801
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>But you know, they haven't been enforcing crunch this much,

802
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>at least as far as we know. And a lot

803
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>of their games do come out buggy and messy, and

804
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 1>they just get like lambasted by the public and fans

805
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot because their games are buggy, and like you

806
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to sit back and think, like you know,

807
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe these games have issues. Maybe the issues arise because

808
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>they're not crunching, they're they're they're staff members to get

809
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 1>this done. But then you know, you've got CD, Project

810
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Red or rock Star for example. That's that gets praised

811
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 1>for these like very polished. I don't know if i'd

812
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:00.599
<v Speaker 1>call the Witch are three very polished came out, But

813
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.599
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm trying to say, games, Yeah, these

814
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>huge games that are like polished as much as they

815
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 1>can be in that situation. But it's like, Okay, yeah,

816
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that's good, but to get there, there was most likely

817
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot of crunch involved.

818
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:22.119
<v Speaker 8>I feel like that that does create this weird like uh.

819
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Falsehood of like it.

820
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.960
<v Speaker 8>That's like the the binary add like way it can

821
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 8>work is like either we crunch and the game comes

822
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 8>out good, or we don't crunch it comes out buggy.

823
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.039
<v Speaker 8>And I feel like there just maybe needs to be

824
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.920
<v Speaker 8>like larger structural changes and the way games are like developed,

825
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.719
<v Speaker 8>or like the way games are are managed. Like I

826
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.480
<v Speaker 8>think there's just so many other and I'm not a

827
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 8>game a developer, so don't I don't know the inner

828
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 8>workings of games. I know every game.

829
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Developer does it differently.

830
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 8>But I think like there there's there's definitely got to

831
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 8>be like other things you can look at and the

832
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.840
<v Speaker 8>way these studios are developing games that can like you know,

833
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 8>create a better working environment, but also not have your

834
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 8>game be out in a buggy mess like, I don't

835
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.159
<v Speaker 8>think it needs to be this binary thing that I

836
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 8>think some people kind of like think of it as agreed.

837
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:15.199
<v Speaker 5>Well.

838
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<v Speaker 1>The next big thing, which also caused some, god, I

839
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know, some negative reactions was that Peter Parker's face

840
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>looks different in this Spider Man PUS remaster, which is

841
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of a weird story. I've seen a lot of

842
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.280
<v Speaker 1>people be like you, oh, it's cause they're trying to

843
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 1>make them look like Marvel's Spider Man or Disney's Marvel

844
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:39.199
<v Speaker 1>spider Man, not Sony's Spider Man from like the Andrew

845
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Garfield Spider Man.

846
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<v Speaker 5>But I think it's just because they wanted to make

847
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 5>something that looked more like Uri Loenthal, the voice actor.

848
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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a tech thing. So the way they

849
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 3>explained it was.

850
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 8>Basically too because of motion capture, you have to have

851
00:41:54.679 --> 00:42:00.320
<v Speaker 8>your face model like somewhat like match the facial structure

852
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:03.000
<v Speaker 8>of whoever's doing the mocap so that they can like

853
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:07.039
<v Speaker 8>get better mocap. And I guess the new tech they've

854
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 8>been introducing for like Miles Morales and the other Spider

855
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 8>Man games, the old face model like just was not

856
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.679
<v Speaker 8>up to par with Uri Lowenthal's uh like mo caap.

857
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.639
<v Speaker 8>So it's just I guess it didn't work right, and

858
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 8>so they were like, Yep, we got to kind of

859
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 8>get a new face model that like matched your Lowenthal's

860
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:32.239
<v Speaker 8>bone structure better, essentially is what they were saying.

861
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>But like, well, why change it in the PUS five

862
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>version because it's the same game, right, They're not using

863
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>new tech game maybe just to test it out. It

864
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:42.519
<v Speaker 1>just seems kind of strange.

865
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.719
<v Speaker 8>I mean, presumably he'll show up in Miles Morales and

866
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.119
<v Speaker 8>you'll probably have that new face, and maybe they wanted

867
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 8>to like sink the two up and kind of.

868
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Like re establish the whole thing. I get it. It's

869
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 3>I prefer the old Peter's face.

870
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.639
<v Speaker 8>I'm not gonna lie, but like I totally understand it

871
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.039
<v Speaker 8>from like a technical standpoint, like he just looks a

872
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:03.519
<v Speaker 8>little bit younger. I think it's the only thing I

873
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 8>don't like about it.

874
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, it's that a lot of the complaints have

875
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 4>been Honestly, you couldn't pay me to care about this,

876
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:15.320
<v Speaker 4>Like it's a different face, and they talked about it,

877
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 4>explained it.

878
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:17.239
<v Speaker 5>I just.

879
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand the uproar, and like maybe that's just

880
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 4>me just kind of being I don't know, I think

881
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.039
<v Speaker 4>there's more important things in the world.

882
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 5>Character.

883
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's talk about the puddles again.

884
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:33.639
<v Speaker 5>Or Sam Raimi Spider Man suit.

885
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 4>I feel bad for like the guy who originally did

886
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 4>the facial capture, but at the same time, he will

887
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 4>have you know, he's still in that game, believe in

888
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 4>the original version. This is just a different look at

889
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 4>This is me really stretching to try and care about it.

890
00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:00.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I'm tired. I like, yeah, it's interesting, like

891
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.519
<v Speaker 4>to understand the reasoning behind it, and I think you're

892
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:04.199
<v Speaker 4>right that it's probably because he is going to be

893
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 4>in Miles Morales and they just maybe they couldn't get

894
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 4>the old actor, but like or they just decided to,

895
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:12.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, go with this new guy because of the

896
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 4>similarities between him and Uri Good.

897
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 6>I just wish that we lived in a world where,

898
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 6>you know, us as a society were a little more

899
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:26.760
<v Speaker 6>prepared for our superheroes to have different faces in different versions.

900
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 6>If only there was a way that we could have

901
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 6>been prepared for that, if only, you know, it would

902
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.400
<v Speaker 6>have been like maybe if there was like movies where

903
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.239
<v Speaker 6>different Spider Man showed up and they had like different actors,

904
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.599
<v Speaker 6>and you know, they weren't always the same actor. Perhaps

905
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 6>you know, Marvel made one and then you know Fox

906
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 6>made one, or like Sony made one and they had

907
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:49.360
<v Speaker 6>to use different actors. If that was the case, then

908
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:51.679
<v Speaker 6>maybe it would be easier pill to swallow, to have

909
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 6>a two different faces of Spider Man. But of course

910
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:55.880
<v Speaker 6>we don't live in that world.

911
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Grow up, everyone grow up.

912
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 4>But I kind of if you're a type of person

913
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 4>who gets so worked up over something like that that

914
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:11.360
<v Speaker 4>they harassed developers and all that shit, it's like, yeah,

915
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 4>you need to have.

916
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, everyone will get used to it. Everyone will forget

917
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:18.119
<v Speaker 8>about it. They did the same thing with Infamous. They

918
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:20.639
<v Speaker 8>changed they changed Call's face in between one and two,

919
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 8>and everyone was complaining about and blah blah blah, and

920
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:24.800
<v Speaker 8>after that game came out, no one cared.

921
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be the same thing.

922
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:28.920
<v Speaker 6>To be clear, we're speaking to a specific type of

923
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 6>person that is out there like outrage machining it up.

924
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:34.119
<v Speaker 6>Most people have been like I've seen a lot of

925
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:35.880
<v Speaker 6>people be like I don't really like the new face

926
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:39.519
<v Speaker 6>and then just move on, yeah, and express their opinions

927
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 6>in a very reasonable way. But then you get some

928
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 6>people who are like Pitchforks ready trying to like harass developers,

929
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:48.599
<v Speaker 6>and it's like, what you're talking about, man, Relax, You're

930
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:53.679
<v Speaker 6>getting a different face. Like how much he puts a

931
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:58.000
<v Speaker 6>mask over his face for ninety that game, that's this

932
00:45:58.079 --> 00:45:59.079
<v Speaker 6>whole stick.

933
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:02.719
<v Speaker 3>They did that.

934
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:07.480
<v Speaker 8>They're gonna go back and like undo all that work, Like, no,

935
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:08.400
<v Speaker 8>what is it?

936
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Like?

937
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 4>I so Brian Intahar from Insomniac. First of all, it

938
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.639
<v Speaker 4>looks like Brian wrote something on his PC and then

939
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.119
<v Speaker 4>took a picture with his phone. Brian, we're gonna have

940
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.400
<v Speaker 4>some words about that. I don't know you. I think

941
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:22.000
<v Speaker 4>I met you once.

942
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:26.239
<v Speaker 3>But windows shift shift.

943
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:30.079
<v Speaker 4>But like some of these, some of these tweets, I'm sorry,

944
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.280
<v Speaker 4>but I find this explanation hard to believe when it's

945
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 4>unmistakable and undeniable that Peter has not only been made

946
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Speaker 4>to look several years younger, but in priority with parity, parity,

947
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.320
<v Speaker 4>parity with Tom Holland, whom I feel is the worst

948
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.920
<v Speaker 4>iteration of Spider yet. This is incredibly disappointing.

949
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 3>It's just wrong.

950
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 4>But also this this guy has like said, Oh, it's

951
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.199
<v Speaker 4>also disappointing because the PS four owners won't get this

952
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:57.840
<v Speaker 4>as a free upgrade, So it feels like maybe it's

953
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 4>just like an extension of that.

954
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>That's a very good point.

955
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Speaker 6>Like it's a lot of there's a lot of ancillary

956
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.480
<v Speaker 6>things happening with that game that have built up frustrations,

957
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:11.159
<v Speaker 6>specifically around like upgrade, paid, upgrade, cross saves, that kind

958
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 6>of stuff, And this just feels like a way, This

959
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 6>feels like a simple thing to channel that rage out

960
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.119
<v Speaker 6>because there's a lot to unpack with all those other things.

961
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:23.159
<v Speaker 6>But like anime Avatar, Twitter users are out in force

962
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 6>right now just giving people shit, And like the most

963
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:30.480
<v Speaker 6>annoying thing is this presumption that people have that they

964
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:32.599
<v Speaker 6>understand how game development works.

965
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Like, ah, that.

966
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:36.159
<v Speaker 6>Doesn't seem like it was. You know, it's easy to

967
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 6>change it back, and it's like, shut up, you ain't

968
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 6>got a clue what you're talking about.

969
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 8>Somewhat related, John Linniman of Digital Foundry made a tweet

970
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.639
<v Speaker 8>he was just talking about how good the ratracing looks

971
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 8>in like the screenshots they showed, and then like somebody

972
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.079
<v Speaker 8>responded to him being like, actually, that's not retracing, that's

973
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.760
<v Speaker 8>like SSA and you don't know what you're talking about.

974
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.119
<v Speaker 8>And I'm like, you're gonna tell the Digital Foundry guy

975
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 8>that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Random guy

976
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 8>on Twitter, Okay, Like, I mean I get the people who.

977
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 4>Are kind of upset on behalf of the original actor.

978
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Has he said anything about it, like I didn't one

979
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:15.519
<v Speaker 4>of the outrage Like just I'm just looking to like

980
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.360
<v Speaker 4>the replies to Brian's tweet, and it's all just people

981
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 4>being mad because they look he looks younger. And he

982
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 4>didn't even.

983
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:25.840
<v Speaker 8>Do the mo cap. It was Yary who did the

984
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 8>mo cap, so he would have just came in that

985
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 8>one literally did the face for the face. It's like

986
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 8>everyone get mad at Yeah, it's like he did it

987
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:33.719
<v Speaker 8>like years ago.

988
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.320
<v Speaker 3>He probably doesn't even remember. Who knows.

989
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 4>The problem isn't change itself. It's the Peter now looks

990
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.679
<v Speaker 4>younger than Miles, which doesn't really work for the whole

991
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.800
<v Speaker 4>bin doing this for years going to be your mental

992
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 4>our role he's filling in the story. I don't buy

993
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 4>a baby face like that. Having been spidy for that long.

994
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about?

995
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.960
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, I've been reading Spider Man and watching

996
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:57.639
<v Speaker 6>Spider Man since I was a kid, And do you

997
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 6>know how many times his face has changed over the years, And.

998
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I can't even count. Do you know how many times

999
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 2>they upset me? Zero? Zero?

1000
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Grow up? All right, Jake, let's move on from this.

1001
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we probably should. I one thing I will say

1002
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:18.679
<v Speaker 1>is we weren't going to mention the debate, but after

1003
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 1>the debate last night, I have to tell you, when

1004
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 1>I saw people mad about Spider Man, I was like,

1005
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>this is literally the last thing I could possibly care

1006
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 1>about at this moment in time. Like that's a will

1007
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.039
<v Speaker 1>say regarding the debate, but honestly, like, who gives a shit?

1008
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.599
<v Speaker 4>Oh I'm sorry. I saw someone say I hope this

1009
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:41.800
<v Speaker 4>change is like Sonic did. There's your fucking terrible precedent.

1010
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 2>That is not what I mean.

1011
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they changed Sonic for the Bear, but like.

1012
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:53.840
<v Speaker 6>But like, gread up on what work went into doing that,

1013
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 6>because it was crunch, it was.

1014
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:58.559
<v Speaker 4>Cross and then that whole studio got the whole studio

1015
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 4>got shut down, and like a. All those people go

1016
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.079
<v Speaker 4>legoh so no.

1017
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:05.960
<v Speaker 5>Anyway, let's move on to listener questions, shall we?

1018
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1019
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Go on then, all right, first question here is from

1020
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Biff on Discord. But if you've got any questions

1021
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.599
<v Speaker 1>for us, you can email us at after Dark podcast

1022
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:22.760
<v Speaker 1>at GameSpot dot com, or you can join a discord

1023
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:25.239
<v Speaker 1>by dming one of us on Twitter and we'll get

1024
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you right in there. There's a whole channel in there

1025
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>for you to ask your questions. We pull most of

1026
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 1>them right from there, and the first one is from

1027
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Biff on Discord. They say, Hey, I listened to

1028
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.639
<v Speaker 1>all the episodes of the podcast.

1029
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 5>I listened to Oh man, what am I doing?

1030
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:41.320
<v Speaker 4>My beers?

1031
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Have you had Jake one?

1032
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 5>Very light beer?

1033
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like you're biffinite.

1034
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 5>I'm biffinite.

1035
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I listened to all the episodes of the podcast

1036
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.079
<v Speaker 1>last week. What's your favorite alcohol and non alcoholic drink?

1037
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Keep up the good work to more?

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00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 5>Do you want to start?

1039
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Because I imagine you're just gonna have a non alcoholic

1040
00:50:57.480 --> 00:50:58.199
<v Speaker 1>drink for us?

1041
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 2>I do. Yeah. I don't drink, so I'm a huge

1042
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>tea drinker.

1043
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 6>I have multiple cups of tea per day because I

1044
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:11.039
<v Speaker 6>have the like elite tea addict combination of being English

1045
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 6>and Pakistani. So that's basically like those are our two

1046
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:20.320
<v Speaker 6>national drinks. But in terms of other beverages, I really

1047
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 6>like ginger beer. It's my favorite drink that you have

1048
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:27.599
<v Speaker 6>ginger ale here more than ginger beer. And that's a

1049
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.239
<v Speaker 6>very different drink that I'm not into, but I will

1050
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 6>drink it if that's the only option, but ginger beer

1051
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:37.239
<v Speaker 6>is probably my favorite one. There's also a drink I

1052
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 6>don't know if it's like worldwide, but Lucy will know

1053
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 6>it called Copperberg, which is actually an alcoholic drink, but

1054
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.679
<v Speaker 6>they do a non alcoholic variety of it which is

1055
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 6>really really good. It's like different fruit blends that are

1056
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 6>like carbonated, and I have not found an equivalent here,

1057
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.880
<v Speaker 6>like high end. You know how people take beer really

1058
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 6>seriously here with like craft beers. Copperberg felt like a

1059
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:03.440
<v Speaker 6>cross of soft drink and there's no like alternative of

1060
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:04.800
<v Speaker 6>it here as far as I've found.

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00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:10.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's in the UK. It's a cider, the Kiwian

1062
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:16.360
<v Speaker 4>lime one a's elip that's very good.

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00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Forest fruits was the one I always liked.

1064
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for me, like, I guess if we're just

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00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 1>starting with non alcoholic, like a nice glass of orange juice,

1066
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>like fresh squeezed orange juice.

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00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Is bits or no bits, sorry, pulp or no pulp?

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00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Pulp, Yeah, I gotta have pulp, fresh squeeze, gotta have pulp.

1069
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to drink, you know.

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00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I've I've heard that people I have.

1071
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 6>I've heard people, you know, drinking pulp and and like

1072
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:49.320
<v Speaker 6>making them throw up.

1073
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that's the case. I think that's

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00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:51.760
<v Speaker 2>pulp fiction.

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00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:57.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh my, well, that's what we're calling this episode.

1076
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can filter out the pulp, it's still

1077
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna taste really good. But like fresh squeezed orange juice

1078
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 1>is is the word it's at like and it's crazy,

1079
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>how much better? Well, I guess it's not that crazy,

1080
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:11.920
<v Speaker 1>But like the difference between fresh squeezed orange juice and

1081
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:14.559
<v Speaker 1>just you know, store bought orange juice is a night

1082
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and day like tropicana orange juice is disgusting.

1083
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 5>But fresh squeezed, that's it.

1084
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:21.920
<v Speaker 3>That's the one.

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00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:24.960
<v Speaker 4>What's about what about alcoholic?

1086
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:30.559
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'll drink any beer, honestly, I.

1087
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Have the off the one that you have the hat

1088
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of Oh yeah, Topa Topa that's like a local brewery

1089
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that's very good from my hometown, which I enjoy.

1090
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.159
<v Speaker 4>We were trying to get sponsored by four point at one.

1091
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Point, what is point is my favorite?

1092
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.320
<v Speaker 5>In fact, I'm drinking four point right now.

1093
00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:59.960
<v Speaker 4>The sketchy look off to camera doesn't work when.

1094
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:00.840
<v Speaker 2>No one can see it.

1095
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 1>It's fine, Yeah, if you're if you're into beer, this

1096
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 1>is a plug for one Dave Jewett on our team.

1097
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.760
<v Speaker 6>He does like live streams on Twitch, which is part

1098
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 6>gaming stream and part beer stream. So if you're like, yeah,

1099
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:17.480
<v Speaker 6>if you're looking to see like what different beers tastes

1100
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 6>like and get reviews, he's the man to go to

1101
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:21.920
<v Speaker 6>find him at irregular Dave on Twitter.

1102
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 1>He finds some weird ones too. Like I tuned in

1103
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.679
<v Speaker 1>he was like drinking a blueberry beer and yeah, It's

1104
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:29.440
<v Speaker 1>like that sounds it sounds like something i'd want to taste.

1105
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:31.119
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if i'd want it, but it sounds

1106
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 5>like something I want to taste.

1107
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:37.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm trying to think what mine would be. Hmm.

1108
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:43.239
<v Speaker 4>I am always weak for a diet coke, but I

1109
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:47.880
<v Speaker 4>do think the the diet Doctor Pepper is an elite drink.

1110
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:53.239
<v Speaker 4>It's very very good in terms of alcoholic drink. I

1111
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:56.559
<v Speaker 4>am a basic bitch and I love White Claw. I

1112
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 4>drink a lot of white Claw. Lime is my favorite.

1113
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:06.599
<v Speaker 4>But I also enjoy like a nice and nice peanot,

1114
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 4>a nice red or actually any gin based cocktail that

1115
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:15.159
<v Speaker 4>has like you cover in it. I'm a Suckerphone.

1116
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:19.480
<v Speaker 6>You are a big DC person as well in the UK,

1117
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:23.639
<v Speaker 6>but it seems like you shifted over to Diet Doctor Pepper.

1118
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, because it was twenty five cents off. But

1119
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 4>DC's over here. Diet cokes tastes different.

1120
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've learned this very.

1121
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:33.559
<v Speaker 4>Slowly, so not as big a fan over here.

1122
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh there's a sorry.

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00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:40.119
<v Speaker 6>There's a brand in in the UK called Rubicon, and

1124
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:44.119
<v Speaker 6>they do a mango flavored drink, a passionate food fruit

1125
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.440
<v Speaker 6>flavored drink, and a light flavorite favored carbonated drink and

1126
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:50.039
<v Speaker 6>they are s rank so good.

1127
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 4>A sorry. Before I was John in a testament to

1128
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:57.639
<v Speaker 4>just how much I like White Claw and your Goldfarb

1129
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:01.639
<v Speaker 4>friend of the show message to say some big personal news,

1130
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 4>and he got a different variety pack of White Claw

1131
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.079
<v Speaker 4>and just said it's got some new flavors. I haven't tried.

1132
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Yet, so I still never had a white claw. I

1133
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:11.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like I should have it at some point.

1134
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 4>You should like it's it's totally fine and it gets

1135
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:16.440
<v Speaker 4>gets you where you need to go.

1136
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:18.639
<v Speaker 1>This isn't just like Lacroix with some alcohol, Like I

1137
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:20.719
<v Speaker 1>like Lacroix a lot, so I'm sure i'd like it.

1138
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:24.360
<v Speaker 1>One thing I forgot to shut out is uh ishbiki

1139
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>hubikie whiskey with like one solid ice cube.

1140
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 5>Just one ice.

1141
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Cube is perfect, Like there's Japanese mate, Like Japanese whiskey

1142
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:35.360
<v Speaker 1>is so good if you.

1143
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:38.519
<v Speaker 8>Get your hands on that, like thirty thirty aged hibiki.

1144
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Yeah, Peter Peter soaked me up before. He's

1145
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 1>the person to talk to, Sean Luke, how about you?

1146
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:47.239
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1147
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:52.119
<v Speaker 8>For regular drinks, I would go with either some fresh lemonade.

1148
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:57.079
<v Speaker 8>I love making homemade lemonade is uh because you can

1149
00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:59.039
<v Speaker 8>control the amount of because I feel like you get

1150
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.480
<v Speaker 8>store lemonade and it's like it's never correct, like the

1151
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:05.119
<v Speaker 8>amount of sweetness versus like you know, tartness you wants,

1152
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.000
<v Speaker 8>like you can really control it when you make at home.

1153
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:08.159
<v Speaker 3>It's really good.

1154
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:14.599
<v Speaker 8>For beer, my favorite that comes to mind would probably

1155
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 8>be a double ipa called Hetty Topper, which is from

1156
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:18.599
<v Speaker 8>my hometown.

1157
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:19.800
<v Speaker 3>My hometown is like.

1158
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 8>Big On Craft Brewery, and back when I was in

1159
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:28.360
<v Speaker 8>college that was like the best beer in the state

1160
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 8>at the time. I'm sure if I go back now,

1161
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:32.159
<v Speaker 8>everyone will tell me I'm a scrub and like Hetty Toppers,

1162
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 8>like old hat and they're all drinking like Trile Triple

1163
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:36.760
<v Speaker 8>Sunshine now.

1164
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.719
<v Speaker 3>Or something like that. But Heady Topper, Hedy Topper is

1165
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 3>pretty good.

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00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:44.320
<v Speaker 5>Nice, all right? Next question here, Lucy, do you want

1167
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:47.079
<v Speaker 5>to read this one from Carbon? Sure?

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00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:49.840
<v Speaker 4>So Carbon and the discord. I have a little bit

1169
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.559
<v Speaker 4>of a dilemma. So currently I have a PS four

1170
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.920
<v Speaker 4>Pro and a switch light with a messed up micro

1171
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:57.280
<v Speaker 4>SD card reader, and I want to get a PC,

1172
00:57:57.440 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 4>but I also want and you switch. And also I

1173
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 4>have a lot of friends who have Xboxes, and I

1174
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.000
<v Speaker 4>want to get an Xbox because of that. But I

1175
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:06.679
<v Speaker 4>only have like thirteen hundred dollars. So should I put

1176
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:08.760
<v Speaker 4>the money and get a PC or get a cheaper

1177
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:11.800
<v Speaker 4>PC and get a series S or switch or get

1178
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:13.920
<v Speaker 4>all three and get a cheaper PC and you switch

1179
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:15.800
<v Speaker 4>and do the financing for xbox.

1180
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, there's a lot going on there.

1181
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:21.119
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot going so I should point out that

1182
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I think in a follow up there was a whole

1183
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.400
<v Speaker 1>conversation of people in discord giving them suggests or giving

1184
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>them suggestions and whatnot, and I think they may have.

1185
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:33.840
<v Speaker 5>Fixed their their switch, SD card or something.

1186
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Okay, So.

1187
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:37.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's a lot to follow here.

1188
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:40.119
<v Speaker 1>There's even more to follow when you, you know, look

1189
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>at the whole conversation. But I figure we can just

1190
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of like just go from that, like PC, Like

1191
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:49.159
<v Speaker 1>with thirteen hundred dollars, what would you.

1192
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.800
<v Speaker 8>Do if they're only worrying about the piece or about

1193
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:55.599
<v Speaker 8>the Xbox for playing with friends, I would recommend getting

1194
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:59.719
<v Speaker 8>the PC because a lot of games between PC and

1195
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 8>Xbox now have cross play.

1196
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

1197
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:07.800
<v Speaker 8>So assuming you're not like I guess, I don't know

1198
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.159
<v Speaker 8>what games specifically are playing, but if it's definitely first party,

1199
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:11.960
<v Speaker 8>they'll be set. And I would say at this point,

1200
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:15.159
<v Speaker 8>most major things, it's like Call of Duty, war Zone

1201
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.079
<v Speaker 8>that's all cross play. So I would say that I'd

1202
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 8>go PC over the Xbox.

1203
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, like you can definitely do the financing

1204
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:27.480
<v Speaker 4>for Xbox and then you would get the So hang,

1205
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:32.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to see what's the justification carbon for wanting

1206
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:35.480
<v Speaker 4>to get a PC if everyone's on Xbox anyway, Like

1207
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 4>do you need PC for work or school or just

1208
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:44.719
<v Speaker 4>like some PC games? That's a good point, Like I think,

1209
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:48.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, getting a PC is probably the safe bet

1210
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:51.719
<v Speaker 4>because there's so much cross platform play. If you have

1211
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.880
<v Speaker 4>game Pass Ultimate, then you're laughing.

1212
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 6>Here's the thing, though, I think the smart thing to

1213
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:00.719
<v Speaker 6>do is it would be get a piece because you

1214
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 6>are in the Microsoft ecosystem then, and that's where and

1215
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.679
<v Speaker 6>it's fully connected to most other xboxes. The issue you

1216
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:11.320
<v Speaker 6>have is and like everyone can speak to this, but

1217
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:17.679
<v Speaker 6>getting a cheaper PC might not be the right play here,

1218
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 6>even though it's smarter to do so. But it could

1219
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.960
<v Speaker 6>mean that the shelf life on it is lower since

1220
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:29.880
<v Speaker 6>you're buying lower powered parts. And if gaming on PC

1221
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:32.719
<v Speaker 6>changes in a significant way, which is likely to do

1222
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 6>because that's what usually happens, you might find that your

1223
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:39.719
<v Speaker 6>PC's kind of left behind very quick quickly. Whereas once

1224
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 6>you buy a console, there's very little going to change

1225
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:44.559
<v Speaker 6>in that architecture over time.

1226
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:46.320
<v Speaker 2>And also it's a closed.

1227
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.199
<v Speaker 6>System, so there's less likely to be major kind of

1228
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:54.159
<v Speaker 6>degradation or faults with it in that Microsoft or you

1229
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 6>know whatever platform holder or a retailer won't be able

1230
01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 6>to take care of PCs have a way of constantly

1231
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.480
<v Speaker 6>screwing up, and once you've purchased the parts and put

1232
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 6>it together, it's kind of on you to figure that

1233
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:04.840
<v Speaker 6>stuff out.

1234
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:07.840
<v Speaker 2>So like if it was if it was if.

1235
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:09.719
<v Speaker 6>You were saying, I'm going to spend the money to

1236
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:12.719
<v Speaker 6>get a thirty eight top of the range PC, then

1237
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.480
<v Speaker 6>I would say do that because you're good for this

1238
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.599
<v Speaker 6>generation then and like you can spread out upgrades a

1239
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:21.280
<v Speaker 6>little more evenly. But if you're buying a mid to

1240
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:24.400
<v Speaker 6>like low mid tier, then I would probably say get

1241
01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:28.480
<v Speaker 6>the console, maybe even splash out on a Series X,

1242
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.199
<v Speaker 6>because then you're good for a while and you know

1243
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:34.199
<v Speaker 6>that there's very little going to change in the hardware

1244
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:37.719
<v Speaker 6>architecture and the world around it that will push you.

1245
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Out of playing the games exactly the way you want

1246
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:40.880
<v Speaker 2>to play them.

1247
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:44.119
<v Speaker 5>That was pretty good. I don't have much money added that.

1248
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I think, like kind of to Lucy's point is that

1249
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 1>it is I definitely consider too write if you're not

1250
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.840
<v Speaker 1>going to use this just for games, Like if you

1251
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:56.360
<v Speaker 1>have school or work and you need a PC, then

1252
01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:58.559
<v Speaker 1>obviously I would prioritize the PC.

1253
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:01.199
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I don't know.

1254
01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I think I like what Tomorrow was saying too about

1255
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:08.840
<v Speaker 1>financing an Xbox Series X, because then you don't need

1256
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:11.920
<v Speaker 1>your spending less, you don't need to worry about upgrading

1257
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:14.280
<v Speaker 1>your PC, or you don't need to worry about all

1258
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.280
<v Speaker 1>these issues that may come from a PC. So I'd

1259
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.519
<v Speaker 1>say that's a good bet, especially if you've got friends

1260
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:23.400
<v Speaker 1>there too. Like the big reason I play on Xbox

1261
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:26.800
<v Speaker 1>is in PCs because I've got friends there. So you know,

1262
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 1>that's always my priority when it comes to buying these

1263
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.079
<v Speaker 1>new consoles is where where are my friend's going to be?

1264
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm my friends at but now I got friends on

1265
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:36.400
<v Speaker 1>every platform.

1266
01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:37.000
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't matter.

1267
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Look at you.

1268
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't go, I don't go friends, family, all.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, show me up anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been episode sixty one of GameSpot after Dark. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you all so much for joining me, and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. If you've got any questions, you can email

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<v Speaker 1>us at after Dark Podcasts at GameSpot dot com, or

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<v Speaker 1>you can join our discord server by dming any one

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<v Speaker 1>of us on Twitter and we'll get you right in there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot more that goes on in there than

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<v Speaker 1>just questions.

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<v Speaker 5>For the show. Lots of good conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like a vague threat about joining a cult.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe that's what it is, but please reach out.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd love to have you there and with that, where

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<v Speaker 1>can people find you?

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<v Speaker 4>Lucy, I'll be branding people with the initials GSA D

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<v Speaker 4>the nexim rules in our discord Now I'm on Twitter

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<v Speaker 4>at Lucy James Games. This week on Generation Next, we've

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<v Speaker 4>got Michael Hyam who has an Xbox Series X, a

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<v Speaker 4>real one, on the show, answering questions that will put

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<v Speaker 4>to him. That we call that for last week. So

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<v Speaker 4>if you had burning questions about the series X, I

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<v Speaker 4>just want to get like another cool info dump and

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<v Speaker 4>watch a man lick a console. Then that is up right?

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<v Speaker 5>How you get clout the console?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, yeah, I love the fact that Xbox is Social

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<v Speaker 4>media manager Josh Stein tweeted out, I can't believe I

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<v Speaker 4>had to say this, but please don't lick your series.

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<v Speaker 4>To be fair, it was the middle of the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 4>But Michael did wipe it down before we did it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I will wipe it down before he sends it back.

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<v Speaker 5>Timorro how about you.

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<v Speaker 6>You can find me serving flavor aid to all you

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<v Speaker 6>find joiners of our discord.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing bad will happen after you drink it.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, respect for using the correct powdered drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeap.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I'm thinking we should rebrand this Discord server, this whole.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's another avenue we can follow here.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I'm on Twitter at timore h.

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<v Speaker 8>How about you, Jean Luke, you can find me at

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<v Speaker 8>john lei sip on Twitter. I don't have anything else

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<v Speaker 8>going on, but yeah, go check out the discord server. Actually,

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<v Speaker 8>we just updated the discord server. It's now a a

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<v Speaker 8>community server, which I don't think actually will change anything

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<v Speaker 8>on the users ends.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they'll even notice.

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<v Speaker 8>But that means we now have access to like cool

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<v Speaker 8>extra tools that we can use to make the server better.

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<v Speaker 3>So look forward to that soon.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh and I'm I guess I'll probably talk about it

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<v Speaker 8>in the coming weeks, but I am starting to plan

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<v Speaker 8>for various events that come at the end of October

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<v Speaker 8>beginning of November that we do every year, So look

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<v Speaker 8>forward to that. That should be fun and exciting and

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<v Speaker 8>not a total nightmare to plan remotely.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be great, and you can find me at

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Deck and more cyberpunk stuff. Jess has a cyberpunk video,

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<v Speaker 1>a lore video going up Saturday, all about the different

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<v Speaker 1>districts in night City. The week after that, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>doing one on brain Dance, which is like the cyberpunk

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<v Speaker 1>VR sort of deal, so keep a lookout for that.

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<v Speaker 5>And those are the things that come to mind. Probably

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of reviews too.

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars, right, the Star Wars and Crash reviewer. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>the review may not be up yet because I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's multiplayer that needs to be tested, but the Crash

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<v Speaker 1>one should be up by now.

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<v Speaker 3>There should be single player impressions, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, single player impressions, yes. Anyway, yeah, Star Wars Crash

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. We've got we've got impressions, reviews, all

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. But anyway, we'll see y'all next thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye bye, right,
