WEBVTT 1 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:24.760 Well, it's happening. My prediction, my prophecy, Cliff's prophecy actually 2 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:30.120 coming forth. It's unveiling into the reality that we live 3 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:35.200 in right now, and that is recognizing that these ancient 4 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:42.600 megalithic sites, these pyramid cultures, and also temples that are 5 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:47.200 in different locations, appear to be the work of a 6 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:55.920 culture or multiple cultures who were aware of geomagnetic energy sites. 7 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:02.719 And you remember doctor Lydia DeLong. She recognize these as anomalies, 8 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:11.519 healing the anomalies, mental health anomalies, spiritual growth anomalies, enhancement anomalies. 9 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.200 I mean, the sky is the limit. And this is 10 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:18.959 being recognized by more and more people, including my guest today, 11 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:23.439 who has written a fabulous book that we'll talk about shortly. 12 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:27.000 But why what I mean, why should we care? Why 13 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:32.040 should we care about these energies, these temples, these pyramids. 14 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:39.200 First of all, the labor behind erecting a Cufu pyramid 15 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:43.519 at the Giza Plateau in Egypt is a monumental task 16 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:47.799 on a scale that we don't recognize. But I can 17 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:53.319 tell you as somebody who has personally gone into the 18 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.239 Great Pyramid, this thing must have taken years to build 19 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:00.680 and we know now from a number of diferent scientists 20 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:04.680 that there's a resonating factor that we are just beginning 21 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.719 to understand. And if you remember when we had Christopher 22 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:12.479 Unn on the program, he believes that the resonating was 23 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:17.599 a factor in producing some form of energy. Now it's 24 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:22.240 very likely that the Great Pyramid, the Kufu Pyramid, had 25 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.120 other functions as well. We just are not up to speed. 26 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:28.680 We are coming back into harmony with this kind of 27 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:33.039 scientific understanding, and in the last few weeks we've had 28 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:37.560 a number of people talking about the energy, the toleric fields, 29 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:44.840 the healing properties of these bursts, these toleric bursts, these 30 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:52.120 geomagnetic anomalies, and their effect on again the mind, the body, 31 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:58.240 the spirit. So this is important data. It's important data 32 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:03.800 because this is something that we all need to understand 33 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:06.639 because we are here living on the earth. We need 34 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:12.000 to remember and as Graham Hancock says, we are a 35 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.680 species within amnesia and we need to move beyond that 36 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:20.840 and recognize that if we are to live in harmony, 37 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.520 to be well my body and spirit, we need to 38 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:29.719 be cognizant. We need to be aware. We need to 39 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:34.120 use our science and create tools to discern and to 40 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:40.159 analyze and to detect these energy fields. Why because when 41 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:44.800 you are bathed in these fields, you are in many 42 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:51.719 ways healed, but most importantly realigned, realign We are all 43 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.719 not all of us, many of us are out of 44 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:58.680 sinc and I think this is also part of the 45 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:03.039 illness factor in our culture. And I'm primarily aware of 46 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:05.960 only one because I'm living in it, and that's the 47 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.080 Western culture here in California. Although we have the organic 48 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.960 foods and we have the cleanest water, and we go 49 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:16.720 out of our way to be fit and healthy and 50 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:20.680 think good things and everything, Hey, we're like everybody else. 51 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.360 We have a lot of problems. And when you're not 52 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:27.759 synced up, when you're out of harmony, then this just 53 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:33.480 causes problems illness, mental health problems, depression. You just don't 54 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:38.240 want to stay in your body. So our ancestors, now 55 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:43.560 we recognize this. Our ancestors understood that you need to 56 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:46.240 be in harmony to be a physical being on the planet. 57 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:53.240 And so they marked various places with temples with dolmen, 58 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:59.439 with standing stones, with megalists, and then eventually built temples, pyramids, 59 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:06.439 and other structures or buildings near or around these energetic 60 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:12.639 fields to not only grow greater crops, more healthy and 61 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:20.240 vital nutritious crops, but also these energies impregnated the livestock, 62 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:25.879 so the food beef, chicken, and other feed animals were 63 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:33.879 much more healthy. Ultimately, the effects were to help the 64 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:39.160 human beings as well. And this is what is coming out. 65 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:44.519 This has to be recognized by archaeologists, and as I 66 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.360 mentioned last week, there needs to be a new field 67 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:52.600 of study, so we can begin testing with equipment. Which 68 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:57.399 of these pyramids, temples and whatever else was built is 69 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:02.079 as predicted and as profit sides, and also as handed 70 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:07.639 down in oral traditions to be wellness centers, harmony centers 71 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:12.399 for the human soul. So that's why we need to 72 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.120 recognize these. And then the other thing is once we 73 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:19.560 have a recognition of it, we need to build our 74 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:24.439 own temples. Now we'll hear about this today. There are 75 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:28.399 some churches in the United States that actually sit on 76 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:33.000 special fields. We don't know if they were purposely built 77 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:38.560 there on top of these geomagnetic anomalies. But the more 78 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:43.519 we recognize that we need to have sanctuary, perhaps churches, 79 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:49.879 meeting centers, even civic areas that are made for meetings 80 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.560 and healings. The more we recognize this, the healthier we're 81 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.959 going to be. Now. One of the things that doctor 82 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:02.439 DeLong mentioned to us, not only during the interview we 83 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:06.560 had with her, but also the panel discussion was the 84 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:09.639 fact that you're not supposed to stay in these sinners, 85 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.839 these energetic centers more than a short period of time. 86 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:22.079 Too much causes over reaction, causes probably cellular damage, among 87 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:27.040 other things. So there's short term, short term energy centers. 88 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:29.839 I kind of have a sense of this myself because 89 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.800 I tell this story. I will make make it real quickly. 90 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:38.480 We were nineteen ninety six. We were girlfriend and I 91 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:41.800 were in Chichinitza. We climbed the pyramid, which you could do, 92 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:45.600 then got to the top, got blasted with energy, took 93 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:51.160 almost thirty forty minutes to kind of get our bearings again, 94 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:57.279 came down the stairway, and then we're kind of just 95 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:00.439 kind of just combobulated for the rest of the day. 96 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:03.720 If someone was to stand up there all day and 97 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:06.399 get hit with that beam or whatever it is, the 98 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:09.800 energy field probably would cause a lot of problems. So 99 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.399 these are sanctuaries. They're not made to stay in all 100 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:17.319 the time, and this is what we're recognizing now. So 101 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.240 excited to know, excited to talk to my archaeological friends, 102 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:25.439 I would think that they're all going to go show 103 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:28.920 me the money, show me that the information. We do 104 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:34.639 have some diagrams, we have some analysis through measuring devices 105 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:38.039 from John Burke. There's some other people that are using 106 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:43.000 new devices that have come out, and I hope that 107 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.840 someday we'll get some new tools that quickly can scan 108 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:51.879 an area for these readings and know that this is 109 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:54.679 a site or where you're close to a site that 110 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:58.679 is resonating this energy. What I use today is a 111 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:03.720 simple compass, and that helps because you can get the 112 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.960 sense of the magnetic flow. If it's moving a lot, 113 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.360 that's a strong flow. If it's movie in a little bit, 114 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.759 it's not a strong flow. But what Burke showed us 115 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:17.960 when he did the Lost World Pyramid int call is 116 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:23.279 that there's high points of increased energy that is bubbles 117 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:25.759 up from the ground. So you will make that feel 118 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:28.960 bubbles up into the body of the pyramid. The pyramid 119 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:33.960 enhances it, magnifies it, and then pushes it out. So 120 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.879 there's high and low frequencies that happen every day. Kind 121 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.799 of like a pulse. So this is something that we're 122 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:46.960 going to continue to learn, to continue to investigate. So exciting, 123 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:52.919 very exciting time. So our program today is Ancient Temples 124 00:09:53.000 --> 00:10:00.720 of the Pyrenees and my guest is Annie Williams. Hey. 125 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:04.840 Summer's coming up and that means vacation time and Earth 126 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:09.440 Ancients is hosting a fabulous part two to Turkey. This 127 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:12.559 is our Grand Turkey Tour. It's gonna be June twenty 128 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:16.799 second through July second of this year. We all fly 129 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:19.960 into Istanbul, we have an evening and then we bust 130 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:25.679 to a number of locations close by various mosques, temples, 131 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:28.919 some of the most amazing museums that you'll ever visit. 132 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:33.600 And then we're gonna head to go Beckley Tepee, Carahan Teppee, 133 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:39.159 and then Cappadocia to see Darren Kuru. It's eleven days 134 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.039 of adventure exploration and we're even gonna stop at a 135 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.320 few of these open markets where you can see thousands 136 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.759 of different spices, fruits, dried fruits. We even have a 137 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.840 wine taste team. For more information and all the details, 138 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:59.080 go to Earth Ancients dot com forward Slash Tours and 139 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:02.200 check it out. All the details are there. If you 140 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:05.440 have any questions, send me an email. Go to Earth 141 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.039 Ancients the number four of the letter you at gmail 142 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:10.399 dot com and go Hey Cliff, I want to go, 143 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:14.120 but I got this issue, so let me know. Send 144 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.279 me an email again. This is the Grand Turkey Tour 145 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:23.080 number two June twenty second through July second with Saba Tours. 146 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:26.919 That means Mohammad Imbrahem and his team will take great 147 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:29.559 care of us. Come out and join us for more 148 00:11:29.559 --> 00:12:08.639 information Earthancients dot com Forward Slash Tours. We have a 149 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.799 lot of great authors on the program covering a lot 150 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:17.279 of megalithic material. Hugh Newman, Andrew Collins, even Graham Hancock 151 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:22.440 discusses the megalists of Europe, their importance and their likely 152 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:27.320 connection to a very ancient culture. Some people don't want 153 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:29.639 to name them, but I'm just going to say it 154 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:34.039 links to the place known as Atlantis. And my guest 155 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:39.320 today has written a book on Spain in southern France 156 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.879 that I just thought was outstanding. My guest today is 157 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:46.039 Annie Williams. She is a best selling author, a composer, 158 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:51.519 a recording artist. She's a harpist, and she's a sound therapist. 159 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:56.159 And she has written a fabulous book called Guardians of 160 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.960 the Dragon Path Ancient Temples of the Pyrene The Way 161 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:06.559 of the Stars, Camino Magdalena, Meridian. That's a long subtitle, 162 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:11.039 but the book is fabulous and I'm so glad to 163 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:12.720 have her on the program. She's coming to us from 164 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:16.519 France today. So Annie, welcome to Earth. Ancient's great to have. 165 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:19.320 You, Thank you, Thank you so much. Cliff. 166 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:25.200 So, what's an American interested in Spain? What's the uh, 167 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.200 what was the motivation for you to even consider this? 168 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.679 Because you know you're from America. I think where you're from? Sedona? 169 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:37.120 Does that what you Yeah, born in Los Angeles but 170 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:40.720 lived in Sedona for forty years actually. 171 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.679 Right, So talk about that jump, I mean what were 172 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:45.080 you doing research? 173 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:45.519 Were you? 174 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:51.519 Because yeah, well, you know, it wasn't that much of 175 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:54.399 a jump for me because I was guiding tours like 176 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:59.720 you do for many, many years, you know, Egypt, England, Scotland, 177 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:06.039 through different places and France. And when I started coming 178 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:10.240 here to France, I really felt like it was home. 179 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.039 Then when I jumped across the border to Catalonia, which 180 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:22.440 is north eastern Spain, I just you know, I just 181 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.440 fell in love with it. I fell in love with 182 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:31.480 the energy there because it's along the Pyrenees. The Pyrenees, 183 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:36.320 you know, dividing the two countries France and Spain, right 184 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:43.559 along the Mediterranean, and so many ancient sites, Greek temples, 185 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:48.879 megalithic sites, is just chalk full of history. And I 186 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:50.440 fell in love with it. I fell in love with 187 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.200 the energy and the sites. So for eighteen years I 188 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.720 was going back and forth across the border, living in 189 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:03.840 southern France, but I'm about two hours from Catalonia. 190 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:09.039 No, you're obviously sensitive because you talk about this energetic 191 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:15.039 meridian there. Did you actually begin tracking it or was 192 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:19.639 it already kind of documented in ancient texts that there 193 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:25.600 was this Pyrenees meridian, that it was the mountain range? 194 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:27.440 I guess an area right. 195 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:35.799 Well, you know you talk about electromagnetic discontinuities, right, Well, 196 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:40.039 the Pyrenees were created by the two great tectonic plates, 197 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:43.840 the Eurasian and the Iberian plates, pushing up, and so 198 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:51.120 there's this huge magnetic energy and like cracks that are 199 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:56.159 open fissures and volcanic activity in the past, so there's 200 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:01.799 an access to deeper Earth energy. Gees and the whole 201 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:09.080 Pyrenees range creates this energetic magnetic quality. So ancient cultures 202 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:13.240 felt this energy. I think they were much more sensitive 203 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.799 than we are. And I started feeling it. But the 204 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:21.799 thing that really kicked it off and started me noticing 205 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:26.080 these energy lines were dreams. I was getting a lot 206 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:30.440 of guidance in dreams, and I was told go here, 207 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:35.399 you know, like sacred fires, and you're going to find things, 208 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:39.840 and just keep going to these sites. And I would 209 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:45.879 discover that the megaliths along the base of the Pyrenees, 210 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:51.799 running from the Mediterranean across to the Atlantic, you know, 211 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:58.080 beyond where the Pyrenees end, there are so many megalithic sites. 212 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:03.639 And so the anc people had this trackway that they used, 213 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:08.359 and it was an initiation path. They would go from 214 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:16.480 megalith to megalith standing stone men or Dolman and that trackway, 215 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:24.200 starting six thousand years ago, eventually became used by the 216 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:33.200 Christians and the templars directed their castles and churches along 217 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.079 the path, so it became the Comino de Santiago de 218 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.839 com eventually, but that was much later. 219 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:43.079 Yeah. No, Well, we're going to talk about Mary Megalena 220 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.880 in a second here, but I want you to talk 221 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:50.559 about your selection of this amazing sculpture that was found 222 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:55.759 in Spain, of this Slodonda, I think I'll say, d 223 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:02.599 lsh figure. She is wearing some and I've always been 224 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:07.960 fascinated by her. She's wearing some form of technology, is 225 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.960 what the thinking is on her head. And you as 226 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.200 a sound person, and I always thought this when I 227 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.799 read this, I saw this book. You may have selected 228 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:21.000 that because you're a sound healer, and maybe our ancient 229 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:25.039 ancestors were using this, and she's wearing this as some 230 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:28.359 form of show of technology. What do you say to that? 231 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:33.200 Yeah, and it's absolutely possible. We don't know for sure. 232 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:40.519 She's our lady of Elcha. Found Elcha not far from 233 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:48.880 Valencia along the coast, and she's Iberian, but the Iberians 234 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:55.240 were a conglomeration of Phoenicians, Egyptian Greek cultures that were 235 00:18:55.240 --> 00:19:02.519 coming in and out doing trade. And so her giant 236 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:07.319 ear whirls there, they have all these designs on them. 237 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.680 They look like I laid it out in my presentation 238 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:15.880 for Hugh at megal Lithomania last year, and you know, 239 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:21.880 showing that that Plato's ideal city of Magnesia that was 240 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:29.519 sustained by perfect harmonics, harmonic structures in the geomanuh gimancy, 241 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:38.039 in the in the geology, I mean the the from 242 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:47.720 my brain just went flat. Geometric, the geometric layout of 243 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:52.640 these hair, hair wheels, whirls, and so Plato had his 244 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:55.920 ideal city and it looks like what she's wearing on 245 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.480 her ears. I'll send you the image because it's just 246 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:06.440 so intricate. Is it a calendar? Is it like you said, 247 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.160 is it some sort of harmonic shape? Is it related 248 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:13.000 to Atlantis as a lot of people think. We don't know, 249 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:17.839 but she's just an extraordinary figure. 250 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.279 And she was found in a cave. I think is 251 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:25.279 a story. And I mean, do they know how old 252 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:25.680 she is? 253 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:29.480 Well, they date or too about She's not that old, 254 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:35.119 actually three four hundred BC. But the Iberians were there 255 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:37.759 for a long time, and so we don't know how 256 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:42.759 long these traditions were going. We can date the Iberians 257 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:46.880 back at least to one thousand BC they were trading 258 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:52.039 with the Phoenicians, and then before that, you know, at 259 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.519 least a thousand years before that, maybe twenty five hundred BC, 260 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.599 the Egyptians were doing trade in Iberia for their silver. 261 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:05.599 So you know, these these cultures are a milange, a 262 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:11.440 mixture of so many layers, but she's she's a fascinating figure. 263 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:14.319 Yeah, and I love the fact that she's on your cover. 264 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:18.559 And there's just so much we don't know about this sculpture. 265 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.599 Why they would reproduce her in such a way. And 266 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:24.960 I think there's a lot of copycat or a lot 267 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:30.559 of similar cultures that are that have these big as 268 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.079 you call them, wheels on the side of their head. 269 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:35.720 It may represent something. 270 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:40.720 Well, the hope the maidens have their their hair in 271 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:45.680 that that whirl shape, and that actually in Utah, I 272 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:49.680 think it was somewhere south of Salt Lake City, they 273 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:56.839 found another Iberian lady out of metal. I think that 274 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:01.799 had these same ear figures. Yeah, how did it get there? 275 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:02.319 We don't know. 276 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:04.680 Yeah, it's one of those things is thousands of years 277 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:07.279 old and there's no blueprints or documents on what the 278 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:12.880 heck they are? What? Why are dragons and serpents the 279 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:18.640 theme in this book is it because dragons are a 280 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:23.640 mythological creature or is there some belief that perhaps these 281 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:27.119 what you could consider dinosaurs were still on the earth 282 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:28.680 at some point. 283 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:35.680 Well, that whole region here in southern France and into Spain. 284 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:39.799 There were dinosaurs everywhere. But what started me on the 285 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:43.640 dragon thing with this book is looking at the Paris Meridian, 286 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:48.480 which became the spine or the main alignment for a 287 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:51.880 lot of sites I was finding. And I looked at 288 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:56.480 where they had measured the meridian too, and the most 289 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:03.759 southern point was on the all of Majorca in the Mediterranean, 290 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:08.440 just off the coast of Barcelona, an island called Isla 291 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:13.240 dragon Era or the Isle of the Female Dragon. It 292 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:18.279 literally means in Catalan the little lizards, but you know, 293 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.200 to have the dragon Era marking the route the base 294 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:26.319 of the meridian I started looking at. I had a 295 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:31.039 lot of experiences that started giving me this idea that 296 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:35.799 you know, this was an energy line that was connected 297 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:40.839 with the northern axis of the planet, and we know 298 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:45.119 from science that energy is entering the Earth from the 299 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:49.160 northern axis and creating and going out the south and 300 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.519 creating kind of a doughnut movement. Well, a lot of 301 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:57.880 ancient cultures were establishing their sites not only on the 302 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:04.480 occurrens that go every which way, but on these north 303 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:12.079 south meridians as well. So I'm the Dragon Era started 304 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:14.200 me on the dragon and then I found all kinds 305 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:18.920 of legends in the Pyrenees, especially from the Basque people 306 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:24.599 that talk about the dragons creating the mountains and that 307 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:29.400 they still live inside the mountains and they control the 308 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.200 weather patterns. So this is an ancient belief in the region. 309 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.960 Yeah, you actually have examples in your book of star 310 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:43.640 systems and other references to dragons. Do you think it's 311 00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:48.640 more of an energy signature of a dragon or do 312 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:51.240 you think that at some time in our ancient past 313 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.400 these were actual creatures that walk the planet. 314 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:58.160 Yeah, I believe they were actual creatures in the form 315 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:02.680 of dinosaurs. But this comes down to us in our 316 00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:08.240 deep memory. But in the idea of ancient cultures, if 317 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:13.400 you look at China or Tibet or this area, the 318 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:21.000 indigenous cultures of of Europe, they all considered dragons and serpents, 319 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:30.599 which were sometimes interchangeable as guardians, as guardians of their sites. 320 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:33.599 In fact, you know in the Tombs of Egypt you 321 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:39.920 have the cobra guardians that guard the site energetically. So 322 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:45.359 we have the the serpents or dragons in the Eastern 323 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:51.839 traditions representing the Kundalini energy in the human energy field 324 00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:54.000 in the in the base of the spine, so it's 325 00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:59.319 you know, it's about working with energy. The early Christian 326 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:04.480 mystics used the serpent traditions that were coming from the 327 00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:10.559 fight and the Nascine orders. The o fights were an 328 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:17.200 order of healers. O fight from the word for serpent 329 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.599 in the Greek. So they were all through this region. 330 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:23.920 They were all over Spain. In fact, some of the 331 00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:33.000 sites were named Ophiusa. So you know, these beliefs of 332 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.559 working with serpent energy within ourselves as an evolutionary tool, 333 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.440 an awakening tool, as well as working with the serpent 334 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.480 and dragon energies in the earth or the teller currents 335 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:50.279 which the Chinese called lung mi. So you know, we 336 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:57.160 can find the dragon uh traditions almost in every part 337 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.480 of life of ancient people. It's in the hope nitions. 338 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:02.640 They're the guardians of the springs. 339 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:07.640 You said dragons, but also serpents would fall into that 340 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.160 as well. You know, serpents are you know the Maya 341 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:17.240 and the Aspect and Toltec that was big. So they 342 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.319 may have understood energy, and you're an energy sensitive person. 343 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:27.319 So are they calling fourth the energy of this mythological creature? 344 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.000 Of course they wouldn't use the word myth. They would 345 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.119 probably identify it as a certain energy signature, right. 346 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:42.440 Yeah. I believe that they're still present as edgrigor watchers 347 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:47.519 guardians over some of the sites. And for instance, I 348 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.240 had an experience. It was my birthday and I went 349 00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.119 to the Pyrenees to do some research and I was 350 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:57.720 staying right next to the Great Mountain of Kanagu, which 351 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:01.119 is the highest peak in the Eastern Garanties and the 352 00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:08.880 Catalan people consider it their sacred mountain. And I was there. 353 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.000 I'll shorten the story because it's kind of long, but basically, 354 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.039 in the middle of the night, somebody threw open the 355 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.599 door in my room. I was staying at a little 356 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.480 b and B crashing about, and I said, who's there 357 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:27.599 and what do you want? And it said, I'm the 358 00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:31.079 guardian of this place, and would you stop your chanting. 359 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:35.799 I was doing mantras of purification, Tibetan mantras because I 360 00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:39.319 felt that energy in the valley was like congested, and 361 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.240 so the dragon say, would you would you stop with 362 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:48.680 the mantras already you know, and he introduced it, and 363 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.400 he introduced himself to me, and I call him Drack, 364 00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:56.720 which just means dragon in Catalan. So he guided me 365 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.480 to some things and uh gave me a message for 366 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:05.039 humanity that we need to start working with these invisible 367 00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:10.200 realms again because we've forgotten to. When we build a structure, 368 00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:14.279 a house or office building, we forget to connect with 369 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.759 the elemental guardians and all of the subtle energies of 370 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:19.319 a place. 371 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.640 I love to hear that, Yeah. 372 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.240 Yeah, they want to reconnect again. 373 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.440 Yeah. Before we started, I was mentioning my interest in 374 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:32.759 these geomagnetic anomalies that many of the Maya built pyramids over, 375 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.319 and now we're finding that throughout Europe. It's the same deal. 376 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:41.079 These cathedrals that the Templars built are on these unusual 377 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:48.160 geomagnetic anomalies and who knows what they architectural blueprints are. 378 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.359 But obviously when you go to some of those cathedrals, 379 00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.720 you actually can feel that energy depain on it. It 380 00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:59.960 is so you're actually in harmony. You know, you're forced 381 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.359 into harmony. I guess. So you could you could say 382 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:03.599 I don't like it and leave, but. 383 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:11.039 Well, yeah, it's fascinating because it was layer after layer. 384 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:15.160 I think that was the first thing that really impressed 385 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.319 me about when I arrived in France. I hadn't been 386 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.359 to Spain yet, this was in nineteen eighty seven, and 387 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:27.960 I just was overwhelmed really with the layers of energy 388 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:33.039 that I was feeling then when I started researching and 389 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.400 going to all these sites. You know, and of what 390 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:42.079 you're saying is that the ancient people, the Megalithic cultures, 391 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:49.559 the Neolithic people built their structures on these energy crossings 392 00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:54.039 or lines. A lot of times there were node points 393 00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:59.200 crossings of several currents of energy, and these currents of 394 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.440 energy are also so you know, being affected by the stars. 395 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:08.240 But following on the Megalithic cultures, then you know, the 396 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:14.359 various Iron Age, the Celts came in and they started 397 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:19.119 building their shrines right in these same places and started 398 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:25.359 utilizing some of the sites, the stone temples. And then later, 399 00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:30.519 of course, the church came in and overlad. 400 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.440 Built on top of that. Talk about the Paris Meridian, 401 00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:38.160