Speaker 1: Well, it's happening. My prediction, my prophecy, Cliff's prophecy actually
Speaker 1: coming forth. It's unveiling into the reality that we live
Speaker 1: in right now, and that is recognizing that these ancient
Speaker 1: megalithic sites, these pyramid cultures, and also temples that are
Speaker 1: in different locations, appear to be the work of a
Speaker 1: culture or multiple cultures who were aware of geomagnetic energy sites.
Speaker 1: And you remember doctor Lydia DeLong. She recognize these as anomalies,
Speaker 1: healing the anomalies, mental health anomalies, spiritual growth anomalies, enhancement anomalies.
Speaker 1: I mean, the sky is the limit. And this is
Speaker 1: being recognized by more and more people, including my guest today,
Speaker 1: who has written a fabulous book that we'll talk about shortly.
Speaker 1: But why what I mean, why should we care? Why
Speaker 1: should we care about these energies, these temples, these pyramids.
Speaker 1: First of all, the labor behind erecting a Cufu pyramid
Speaker 1: at the Giza Plateau in Egypt is a monumental task
Speaker 1: on a scale that we don't recognize. But I can
Speaker 1: tell you as somebody who has personally gone into the
Speaker 1: Great Pyramid, this thing must have taken years to build
Speaker 1: and we know now from a number of diferent scientists
Speaker 1: that there's a resonating factor that we are just beginning
Speaker 1: to understand. And if you remember when we had Christopher
Speaker 1: Unn on the program, he believes that the resonating was
Speaker 1: a factor in producing some form of energy. Now it's
Speaker 1: very likely that the Great Pyramid, the Kufu Pyramid, had
Speaker 1: other functions as well. We just are not up to speed.
Speaker 1: We are coming back into harmony with this kind of
Speaker 1: scientific understanding, and in the last few weeks we've had
Speaker 1: a number of people talking about the energy, the toleric fields,
Speaker 1: the healing properties of these bursts, these toleric bursts, these
Speaker 1: geomagnetic anomalies, and their effect on again the mind, the body,
Speaker 1: the spirit. So this is important data. It's important data
Speaker 1: because this is something that we all need to understand
Speaker 1: because we are here living on the earth. We need
Speaker 1: to remember and as Graham Hancock says, we are a
Speaker 1: species within amnesia and we need to move beyond that
Speaker 1: and recognize that if we are to live in harmony,
Speaker 1: to be well my body and spirit, we need to
Speaker 1: be cognizant. We need to be aware. We need to
Speaker 1: use our science and create tools to discern and to
Speaker 1: analyze and to detect these energy fields. Why because when
Speaker 1: you are bathed in these fields, you are in many
Speaker 1: ways healed, but most importantly realigned, realign We are all
Speaker 1: not all of us, many of us are out of
Speaker 1: sinc and I think this is also part of the
Speaker 1: illness factor in our culture. And I'm primarily aware of
Speaker 1: only one because I'm living in it, and that's the
Speaker 1: Western culture here in California. Although we have the organic
Speaker 1: foods and we have the cleanest water, and we go
Speaker 1: out of our way to be fit and healthy and
Speaker 1: think good things and everything, Hey, we're like everybody else.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of problems. And when you're not
Speaker 1: synced up, when you're out of harmony, then this just
Speaker 1: causes problems illness, mental health problems, depression. You just don't
Speaker 1: want to stay in your body. So our ancestors, now
Speaker 1: we recognize this. Our ancestors understood that you need to
Speaker 1: be in harmony to be a physical being on the planet.
Speaker 1: And so they marked various places with temples with dolmen,
Speaker 1: with standing stones, with megalists, and then eventually built temples, pyramids,
Speaker 1: and other structures or buildings near or around these energetic
Speaker 1: fields to not only grow greater crops, more healthy and
Speaker 1: vital nutritious crops, but also these energies impregnated the livestock,
Speaker 1: so the food beef, chicken, and other feed animals were
Speaker 1: much more healthy. Ultimately, the effects were to help the
Speaker 1: human beings as well. And this is what is coming out.
Speaker 1: This has to be recognized by archaeologists, and as I
Speaker 1: mentioned last week, there needs to be a new field
Speaker 1: of study, so we can begin testing with equipment. Which
Speaker 1: of these pyramids, temples and whatever else was built is
Speaker 1: as predicted and as profit sides, and also as handed
Speaker 1: down in oral traditions to be wellness centers, harmony centers
Speaker 1: for the human soul. So that's why we need to
Speaker 1: recognize these. And then the other thing is once we
Speaker 1: have a recognition of it, we need to build our
Speaker 1: own temples. Now we'll hear about this today. There are
Speaker 1: some churches in the United States that actually sit on
Speaker 1: special fields. We don't know if they were purposely built
Speaker 1: there on top of these geomagnetic anomalies. But the more
Speaker 1: we recognize that we need to have sanctuary, perhaps churches,
Speaker 1: meeting centers, even civic areas that are made for meetings
Speaker 1: and healings. The more we recognize this, the healthier we're
Speaker 1: going to be. Now. One of the things that doctor
Speaker 1: DeLong mentioned to us, not only during the interview we
Speaker 1: had with her, but also the panel discussion was the
Speaker 1: fact that you're not supposed to stay in these sinners,
Speaker 1: these energetic centers more than a short period of time.
Speaker 1: Too much causes over reaction, causes probably cellular damage, among
Speaker 1: other things. So there's short term, short term energy centers.
Speaker 1: I kind of have a sense of this myself because
Speaker 1: I tell this story. I will make make it real quickly.
Speaker 1: We were nineteen ninety six. We were girlfriend and I
Speaker 1: were in Chichinitza. We climbed the pyramid, which you could do,
Speaker 1: then got to the top, got blasted with energy, took
Speaker 1: almost thirty forty minutes to kind of get our bearings again,
Speaker 1: came down the stairway, and then we're kind of just
Speaker 1: kind of just combobulated for the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: If someone was to stand up there all day and
Speaker 1: get hit with that beam or whatever it is, the
Speaker 1: energy field probably would cause a lot of problems. So
Speaker 1: these are sanctuaries. They're not made to stay in all
Speaker 1: the time, and this is what we're recognizing now. So
Speaker 1: excited to know, excited to talk to my archaeological friends,
Speaker 1: I would think that they're all going to go show
Speaker 1: me the money, show me that the information. We do
Speaker 1: have some diagrams, we have some analysis through measuring devices
Speaker 1: from John Burke. There's some other people that are using
Speaker 1: new devices that have come out, and I hope that
Speaker 1: someday we'll get some new tools that quickly can scan
Speaker 1: an area for these readings and know that this is
Speaker 1: a site or where you're close to a site that
Speaker 1: is resonating this energy. What I use today is a
Speaker 1: simple compass, and that helps because you can get the
Speaker 1: sense of the magnetic flow. If it's moving a lot,
Speaker 1: that's a strong flow. If it's movie in a little bit,
Speaker 1: it's not a strong flow. But what Burke showed us
Speaker 1: when he did the Lost World Pyramid int call is
Speaker 1: that there's high points of increased energy that is bubbles
Speaker 1: up from the ground. So you will make that feel
Speaker 1: bubbles up into the body of the pyramid. The pyramid
Speaker 1: enhances it, magnifies it, and then pushes it out. So
Speaker 1: there's high and low frequencies that happen every day. Kind
Speaker 1: of like a pulse. So this is something that we're
Speaker 1: going to continue to learn, to continue to investigate. So exciting,
Speaker 1: very exciting time. So our program today is Ancient Temples
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Speaker 1: lot of great authors on the program covering a lot
Speaker 1: of megalithic material. Hugh Newman, Andrew Collins, even Graham Hancock
Speaker 1: discusses the megalists of Europe, their importance and their likely
Speaker 1: connection to a very ancient culture. Some people don't want
Speaker 1: to name them, but I'm just going to say it
Speaker 1: links to the place known as Atlantis. And my guest
Speaker 1: today has written a book on Spain in southern France
Speaker 1: that I just thought was outstanding. My guest today is
Speaker 1: Annie Williams. She is a best selling author, a composer,
Speaker 1: a recording artist. She's a harpist, and she's a sound therapist.
Speaker 1: And she has written a fabulous book called Guardians of
Speaker 1: the Dragon Path Ancient Temples of the Pyrene The Way
Speaker 1: of the Stars, Camino Magdalena, Meridian. That's a long subtitle,
Speaker 1: but the book is fabulous and I'm so glad to
Speaker 1: have her on the program. She's coming to us from
Speaker 1: France today. So Annie, welcome to Earth. Ancient's great to have.
Speaker 2: You, Thank you, Thank you so much. Cliff.
Speaker 1: So, what's an American interested in Spain? What's the uh,
Speaker 1: what was the motivation for you to even consider this?
Speaker 1: Because you know you're from America. I think where you're from? Sedona?
Speaker 2: Does that what you Yeah, born in Los Angeles but
Speaker 2: lived in Sedona for forty years actually.
Speaker 1: Right, So talk about that jump, I mean what were
Speaker 1: you doing research?
Speaker 3: Were you?
Speaker 2: Because yeah, well, you know, it wasn't that much of
Speaker 2: a jump for me because I was guiding tours like
Speaker 2: you do for many, many years, you know, Egypt, England, Scotland,
Speaker 2: through different places and France. And when I started coming
Speaker 2: here to France, I really felt like it was home.
Speaker 2: Then when I jumped across the border to Catalonia, which
Speaker 2: is north eastern Spain, I just you know, I just
Speaker 2: fell in love with it. I fell in love with
Speaker 2: the energy there because it's along the Pyrenees. The Pyrenees,
Speaker 2: you know, dividing the two countries France and Spain, right
Speaker 2: along the Mediterranean, and so many ancient sites, Greek temples,
Speaker 2: megalithic sites, is just chalk full of history. And I
Speaker 2: fell in love with it. I fell in love with
Speaker 2: the energy and the sites. So for eighteen years I
Speaker 2: was going back and forth across the border, living in
Speaker 2: southern France, but I'm about two hours from Catalonia.
Speaker 1: No, you're obviously sensitive because you talk about this energetic
Speaker 1: meridian there. Did you actually begin tracking it or was
Speaker 1: it already kind of documented in ancient texts that there
Speaker 1: was this Pyrenees meridian, that it was the mountain range?
Speaker 1: I guess an area right.
Speaker 2: Well, you know you talk about electromagnetic discontinuities, right, Well,
Speaker 2: the Pyrenees were created by the two great tectonic plates,
Speaker 2: the Eurasian and the Iberian plates, pushing up, and so
Speaker 2: there's this huge magnetic energy and like cracks that are
Speaker 2: open fissures and volcanic activity in the past, so there's
Speaker 2: an access to deeper Earth energy. Gees and the whole
Speaker 2: Pyrenees range creates this energetic magnetic quality. So ancient cultures
Speaker 2: felt this energy. I think they were much more sensitive
Speaker 2: than we are. And I started feeling it. But the
Speaker 2: thing that really kicked it off and started me noticing
Speaker 2: these energy lines were dreams. I was getting a lot
Speaker 2: of guidance in dreams, and I was told go here,
Speaker 2: you know, like sacred fires, and you're going to find things,
Speaker 2: and just keep going to these sites. And I would
Speaker 2: discover that the megaliths along the base of the Pyrenees,
Speaker 2: running from the Mediterranean across to the Atlantic, you know,
Speaker 2: beyond where the Pyrenees end, there are so many megalithic sites.
Speaker 2: And so the anc people had this trackway that they used,
Speaker 2: and it was an initiation path. They would go from
Speaker 2: megalith to megalith standing stone men or Dolman and that trackway,
Speaker 2: starting six thousand years ago, eventually became used by the
Speaker 2: Christians and the templars directed their castles and churches along
Speaker 2: the path, so it became the Comino de Santiago de
Speaker 2: com eventually, but that was much later.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Well, we're going to talk about Mary Megalena
Speaker 1: in a second here, but I want you to talk
Speaker 1: about your selection of this amazing sculpture that was found
Speaker 1: in Spain, of this Slodonda, I think I'll say, d
Speaker 1: lsh figure. She is wearing some and I've always been
Speaker 1: fascinated by her. She's wearing some form of technology, is
Speaker 1: what the thinking is on her head. And you as
Speaker 1: a sound person, and I always thought this when I
Speaker 1: read this, I saw this book. You may have selected
Speaker 1: that because you're a sound healer, and maybe our ancient
Speaker 1: ancestors were using this, and she's wearing this as some
Speaker 1: form of show of technology. What do you say to that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's absolutely possible. We don't know for sure.
Speaker 2: She's our lady of Elcha. Found Elcha not far from
Speaker 2: Valencia along the coast, and she's Iberian, but the Iberians
Speaker 2: were a conglomeration of Phoenicians, Egyptian Greek cultures that were
Speaker 2: coming in and out doing trade. And so her giant
Speaker 2: ear whirls there, they have all these designs on them.
Speaker 2: They look like I laid it out in my presentation
Speaker 2: for Hugh at megal Lithomania last year, and you know,
Speaker 2: showing that that Plato's ideal city of Magnesia that was
Speaker 2: sustained by perfect harmonics, harmonic structures in the geomanuh gimancy,
Speaker 2: in the in the geology, I mean the the from
Speaker 2: my brain just went flat. Geometric, the geometric layout of
Speaker 2: these hair, hair wheels, whirls, and so Plato had his
Speaker 2: ideal city and it looks like what she's wearing on
Speaker 2: her ears. I'll send you the image because it's just
Speaker 2: so intricate. Is it a calendar? Is it like you said,
Speaker 2: is it some sort of harmonic shape? Is it related
Speaker 2: to Atlantis as a lot of people think. We don't know,
Speaker 2: but she's just an extraordinary figure.
Speaker 1: And she was found in a cave. I think is
Speaker 1: a story. And I mean, do they know how old
Speaker 1: she is?
Speaker 2: Well, they date or too about She's not that old,
Speaker 2: actually three four hundred BC. But the Iberians were there
Speaker 2: for a long time, and so we don't know how
Speaker 2: long these traditions were going. We can date the Iberians
Speaker 2: back at least to one thousand BC they were trading
Speaker 2: with the Phoenicians, and then before that, you know, at
Speaker 2: least a thousand years before that, maybe twenty five hundred BC,
Speaker 2: the Egyptians were doing trade in Iberia for their silver.
Speaker 2: So you know, these these cultures are a milange, a
Speaker 2: mixture of so many layers, but she's she's a fascinating figure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love the fact that she's on your cover.
Speaker 1: And there's just so much we don't know about this sculpture.
Speaker 1: Why they would reproduce her in such a way. And
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of copycat or a lot
Speaker 1: of similar cultures that are that have these big as
Speaker 1: you call them, wheels on the side of their head.
Speaker 1: It may represent something.
Speaker 2: Well, the hope the maidens have their their hair in
Speaker 2: that that whirl shape, and that actually in Utah, I
Speaker 2: think it was somewhere south of Salt Lake City, they
Speaker 2: found another Iberian lady out of metal. I think that
Speaker 2: had these same ear figures. Yeah, how did it get there?
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those things is thousands of years
Speaker 1: old and there's no blueprints or documents on what the
Speaker 1: heck they are? What? Why are dragons and serpents the
Speaker 1: theme in this book is it because dragons are a
Speaker 1: mythological creature or is there some belief that perhaps these
Speaker 1: what you could consider dinosaurs were still on the earth
Speaker 1: at some point.
Speaker 2: Well, that whole region here in southern France and into Spain.
Speaker 2: There were dinosaurs everywhere. But what started me on the
Speaker 2: dragon thing with this book is looking at the Paris Meridian,
Speaker 2: which became the spine or the main alignment for a
Speaker 2: lot of sites I was finding. And I looked at
Speaker 2: where they had measured the meridian too, and the most
Speaker 2: southern point was on the all of Majorca in the Mediterranean,
Speaker 2: just off the coast of Barcelona, an island called Isla
Speaker 2: dragon Era or the Isle of the Female Dragon. It
Speaker 2: literally means in Catalan the little lizards, but you know,
Speaker 2: to have the dragon Era marking the route the base
Speaker 2: of the meridian I started looking at. I had a
Speaker 2: lot of experiences that started giving me this idea that
Speaker 2: you know, this was an energy line that was connected
Speaker 2: with the northern axis of the planet, and we know
Speaker 2: from science that energy is entering the Earth from the
Speaker 2: northern axis and creating and going out the south and
Speaker 2: creating kind of a doughnut movement. Well, a lot of
Speaker 2: ancient cultures were establishing their sites not only on the
Speaker 2: occurrens that go every which way, but on these north
Speaker 2: south meridians as well. So I'm the Dragon Era started
Speaker 2: me on the dragon and then I found all kinds
Speaker 2: of legends in the Pyrenees, especially from the Basque people
Speaker 2: that talk about the dragons creating the mountains and that
Speaker 2: they still live inside the mountains and they control the
Speaker 2: weather patterns. So this is an ancient belief in the region.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you actually have examples in your book of star
Speaker 1: systems and other references to dragons. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: more of an energy signature of a dragon or do
Speaker 1: you think that at some time in our ancient past
Speaker 1: these were actual creatures that walk the planet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe they were actual creatures in the form
Speaker 2: of dinosaurs. But this comes down to us in our
Speaker 2: deep memory. But in the idea of ancient cultures, if
Speaker 2: you look at China or Tibet or this area, the
Speaker 2: indigenous cultures of of Europe, they all considered dragons and serpents,
Speaker 2: which were sometimes interchangeable as guardians, as guardians of their sites.
Speaker 2: In fact, you know in the Tombs of Egypt you
Speaker 2: have the cobra guardians that guard the site energetically. So
Speaker 2: we have the the serpents or dragons in the Eastern
Speaker 2: traditions representing the Kundalini energy in the human energy field
Speaker 2: in the in the base of the spine, so it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's about working with energy. The early Christian
Speaker 2: mystics used the serpent traditions that were coming from the
Speaker 2: fight and the Nascine orders. The o fights were an
Speaker 2: order of healers. O fight from the word for serpent
Speaker 2: in the Greek. So they were all through this region.
Speaker 2: They were all over Spain. In fact, some of the
Speaker 2: sites were named Ophiusa. So you know, these beliefs of
Speaker 2: working with serpent energy within ourselves as an evolutionary tool,
Speaker 2: an awakening tool, as well as working with the serpent
Speaker 2: and dragon energies in the earth or the teller currents
Speaker 2: which the Chinese called lung mi. So you know, we
Speaker 2: can find the dragon uh traditions almost in every part
Speaker 2: of life of ancient people. It's in the hope nitions.
Speaker 2: They're the guardians of the springs.
Speaker 1: You said dragons, but also serpents would fall into that
Speaker 1: as well. You know, serpents are you know the Maya
Speaker 1: and the Aspect and Toltec that was big. So they
Speaker 1: may have understood energy, and you're an energy sensitive person.
Speaker 1: So are they calling fourth the energy of this mythological creature?
Speaker 1: Of course they wouldn't use the word myth. They would
Speaker 1: probably identify it as a certain energy signature, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe that they're still present as edgrigor watchers
Speaker 2: guardians over some of the sites. And for instance, I
Speaker 2: had an experience. It was my birthday and I went
Speaker 2: to the Pyrenees to do some research and I was
Speaker 2: staying right next to the Great Mountain of Kanagu, which
Speaker 2: is the highest peak in the Eastern Garanties and the
Speaker 2: Catalan people consider it their sacred mountain. And I was there.
Speaker 2: I'll shorten the story because it's kind of long, but basically,
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, somebody threw open the
Speaker 2: door in my room. I was staying at a little
Speaker 2: b and B crashing about, and I said, who's there
Speaker 2: and what do you want? And it said, I'm the
Speaker 2: guardian of this place, and would you stop your chanting.
Speaker 2: I was doing mantras of purification, Tibetan mantras because I
Speaker 2: felt that energy in the valley was like congested, and
Speaker 2: so the dragon say, would you would you stop with
Speaker 2: the mantras already you know, and he introduced it, and
Speaker 2: he introduced himself to me, and I call him Drack,
Speaker 2: which just means dragon in Catalan. So he guided me
Speaker 2: to some things and uh gave me a message for
Speaker 2: humanity that we need to start working with these invisible
Speaker 2: realms again because we've forgotten to. When we build a structure,
Speaker 2: a house or office building, we forget to connect with
Speaker 2: the elemental guardians and all of the subtle energies of
Speaker 2: a place.
Speaker 1: I love to hear that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to reconnect again.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Before we started, I was mentioning my interest in
Speaker 1: these geomagnetic anomalies that many of the Maya built pyramids over,
Speaker 1: and now we're finding that throughout Europe. It's the same deal.
Speaker 1: These cathedrals that the Templars built are on these unusual
Speaker 1: geomagnetic anomalies and who knows what they architectural blueprints are.
Speaker 1: But obviously when you go to some of those cathedrals,
Speaker 1: you actually can feel that energy depain on it. It
Speaker 1: is so you're actually in harmony. You know, you're forced
Speaker 1: into harmony. I guess. So you could you could say
Speaker 1: I don't like it and leave, but.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's fascinating because it was layer after layer.
Speaker 2: I think that was the first thing that really impressed
Speaker 2: me about when I arrived in France. I hadn't been
Speaker 2: to Spain yet, this was in nineteen eighty seven, and
Speaker 2: I just was overwhelmed really with the layers of energy
Speaker 2: that I was feeling then when I started researching and
Speaker 2: going to all these sites. You know, and of what
Speaker 2: you're saying is that the ancient people, the Megalithic cultures,
Speaker 2: the Neolithic people built their structures on these energy crossings
Speaker 2: or lines. A lot of times there were node points
Speaker 2: crossings of several currents of energy, and these currents of
Speaker 2: energy are also so you know, being affected by the stars.
Speaker 2: But following on the Megalithic cultures, then you know, the
Speaker 2: various Iron Age, the Celts came in and they started
Speaker 2: building their shrines right in these same places and started
Speaker 2: utilizing some of the sites, the stone temples. And then later,
Speaker 2: of course, the church came in and overlad.
Speaker 1: Built on top of that. Talk about the Paris Meridian,
Speaker 1: you highlighted it a second ago, but within the Paris
Speaker 1: Meridian you highlight a place called the Venus Temple. And
Speaker 1: I'm curious about this place because you really highlighted because
Speaker 1: just because it must be on a real power center.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, the Venus Temple is not on the Paris Meridian.
Speaker 2: So there was a great cross that I discovered, and
Speaker 2: the Paris Meritian forms the spine of it, and the
Speaker 2: east west line is at the base of the Pyrenees
Speaker 2: where we have this magnetic discontinuity going across this fault line.
Speaker 2: And the Venus Temple was constructed right on at the
Speaker 2: end of the Pyrenees, where the easternmost point of Spain
Speaker 2: juts out into the sea and to the Mediterranean, and
Speaker 2: they put this gorgeous temple up on the rocks. And
Speaker 2: there's a so that's on the eastern end of the
Speaker 2: east west Meridian, on this great cross.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
Speaker 1: our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly
Speaker 1: with my guest today, a research investigator, author Annie Williams,
Speaker 1: coming to us from France. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, intuition, just want to following intuition, all my senses
Speaker 3: tell me I know truth. What if we got a
Speaker 3: leftist part, I.
Speaker 2: Can see you.
Speaker 1: My guess today is author Annie Williams. She is coming
Speaker 1: to us from France. She recently released a book called
Speaker 1: Guardians of the Dragon Path. This is a fabulous look
Speaker 1: at the megalithic culture of the Pyrenees area, which is
Speaker 1: southern France and northern Spain, and some of the sites
Speaker 1: that she is featured in this book are simply spellbinding.
Speaker 1: But what about the what is it about Venus Temple
Speaker 1: that you found was so compelling? Is there? Has it
Speaker 1: been handed down through the ages and now it's a
Speaker 1: Christian church after it was a right And so when
Speaker 1: you go in there, although it has all the fixings
Speaker 1: of a Catholic church or whatever, it's probably very powerful.
Speaker 2: Right in the crypt of the current monastery of San
Speaker 2: Pere de Rotis, which is built over the Venus Temple,
Speaker 2: you can go into the crypt and some of the pillars,
Speaker 2: the stone pillars in there are still from the original temple.
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
Speaker 2: And what really impressed me about the Venus Temple was
Speaker 2: it was named really for Venus Aphrodite. Aphrodite was more
Speaker 2: the Greek goddess, and the Romans named or Venus. But
Speaker 2: this temple was established, it could have been seven eight
Speaker 2: hundred BC. And there are all kinds of legends about
Speaker 2: Orpheus and Jason and the Argonauts coming and Orpheus was
Speaker 2: with them, and I mean, all these great stories, but
Speaker 2: that particular ape cape that the temple was built on,
Speaker 2: it's called Captain Kreus or Cape of the Cross, and
Speaker 2: it just happens to be the end of the Cross.
Speaker 2: And that's where we find at least forty megalithic structures, meneirs, dolmens,
Speaker 2: inscribed stones, cup marks, all kinds of stuff. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's been a sacred site forever. And it's basically because
Speaker 2: we have this fault line from the Peeres going right
Speaker 2: into the sea, so it's al chemical. You have the
Speaker 2: fire of the volcanic and the and the mountain, the
Speaker 2: fault lines, you know, the fault plates pushing up, and
Speaker 2: then you have the salt water and it's just an
Speaker 2: incredibly magical area.
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny you describe these Pyrenees temples along
Speaker 1: this meridian and I haven't really heard about this, but
Speaker 1: you're making it sound like there's many, many, many locations
Speaker 1: along this meridian. How many sites are there? Over one
Speaker 1: hundred or is it well undiscovered areas?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean there are a lot of archaeologists that
Speaker 2: have done a lot of research, and I have a
Speaker 2: book that lists five hundred megaliths just in Catalonia. So
Speaker 2: right on this little tiny area of Captain Creuse, I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just a few miles across. There are
Speaker 2: forty maybe forty five. But at each end of this
Speaker 2: old Camino, which there were. There was a German astronomer
Speaker 2: that brought it to my attention early on, Heinz Kaminski,
Speaker 2: and he wrote on the earliest he was an astronomer,
Speaker 2: and he wrote on the earliest initiation paths and pilgrimage
Speaker 2: paths that go back a good six thousand years. And
Speaker 2: he talked about the one that goes across the base
Speaker 2: of the Pyrenees. And so this is just you know,
Speaker 2: the five hundred megalists at the Catalan or the eastern
Speaker 2: end of this old pilgrimage path, and five hundred more
Speaker 2: at the western end at the Atlantic.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: And at the Atlantic end you have a lot of
Speaker 2: Celtic influence. So you have carvings of winged serpents. Here
Speaker 2: we have, you know, like the idea of Ketzelkat winged serpents,
Speaker 2: and another great stone at the end of the Camino
Speaker 2: wrapped with a serpent, a stone wrapped with a serpent.
Speaker 2: I mean these ancient cultures were into how energy moves,
Speaker 2: and the serpent represents that not only annie.
Speaker 1: When do you think there was a procession through these
Speaker 1: different sites, these different temples? Would you say that there
Speaker 1: was a conscious effort to go through them, because maybe
Speaker 1: the energy starts at one place and is for lower chakras,
Speaker 1: and then you go keep going down a few miles
Speaker 1: further and you go to another temple and it's middle
Speaker 1: chakras and then higher levels and so forth. And so
Speaker 1: do you think does that a theory that you would have,
Speaker 1: because you have to wonder they would why would they
Speaker 1: would they just build them just to acknowledge the energy
Speaker 1: of a place.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a big question here. We have about five
Speaker 2: questions here. So so I think they built that the
Speaker 2: sites to fix and stabilize the subtle energies and the
Speaker 2: earth currents. So it you know, if you have earth
Speaker 2: currents forming it a node or a crossing, fixing that
Speaker 2: energy can magnify it and it creates a realm of
Speaker 2: fertility and well being. The energy can expand because the
Speaker 2: stone has a lot of you know, crystal in it,
Speaker 2: and so that's one thing that happens. As for a progression,
Speaker 2: of the chakras and energy centers. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: mean people have done that with the Temples of the Nile,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of an overlay that you can agree
Speaker 2: with or not. But I think that the temples that
Speaker 2: are the sanctuaries in stone that were set up six
Speaker 2: thousand years ago from the from the eastern and of
Speaker 2: northern Spain to the western end were used as an
Speaker 2: initiation path. So each site would have its own quality,
Speaker 2: you know, somewhere near water, somewhere near hills and mountains,
Speaker 2: and and there were different energies, so I think each
Speaker 2: one was unique, and one has to be kind of
Speaker 2: sensitive to figure it out because we don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: they didn't give us a handbook and tell us, you know,
Speaker 2: that's why they created these sites.
Speaker 1: Well, luckily, people like yourself and others are sensitive to
Speaker 1: the energy, so you can at least acknowledge that there's
Speaker 1: something going on here, and they marked it with these
Speaker 1: megalithic stones. But as you're saying, we don't know the
Speaker 1: intricacies of how to turn it on or off, or
Speaker 1: how to flow it. I mean, we just in totally
Speaker 1: know how to flow it through your system, you know,
Speaker 1: you close your eyes and you visualize it moving up
Speaker 1: and through your body. It's about all we can do.
Speaker 2: Well when you say turn on a site. One of
Speaker 2: the things that I used because of my background in
Speaker 2: sound therapy and music, I always either bring an instrument
Speaker 2: or I always have my voice, sometimes a small flute,
Speaker 2: sometimes I take a small travel harp, and so I
Speaker 2: at every single site the first thing I do. I
Speaker 2: was taught this by a GM answer that works at
Speaker 2: a lot of the sites across Spain. He's written books.
Speaker 2: One Saiez he wrote a book called Lugariste Purer Places
Speaker 2: of Power, and I believe he's getting it translated into English.
Speaker 2: Is a good friend of mine. He's an earth sensitive dowser.
Speaker 2: He doesn't even use dowsing rods. He just uses his body.
Speaker 2: And he told me that when you approach a stone
Speaker 2: temple or even a church, to knock three times. Take
Speaker 2: a little stone and knock three times. It's like you're
Speaker 2: visiting a friend. You're saying hello, are you a home?
Speaker 2: You know, and you can literally feel like the place
Speaker 2: opening up and it'll, you know, usually say yeah, hi,
Speaker 2: I'm here, and so it opens the energies to us.
Speaker 2: So we can feel more. And then I usually listen
Speaker 2: first and then I get a sound and then I
Speaker 2: do some sound work with a site, and I do
Speaker 2: a lot of dowsing when I go to these sites,
Speaker 2: so I test the baseline befre. You know, when I
Speaker 2: first get there, you know what's happening with the energy field.
Speaker 2: And then I'll eventually offer some sound or some music
Speaker 2: on the harp and then dow's again and the energy
Speaker 2: field will either double or triple or quadruple. It just
Speaker 2: depends on the site. Wow. So that so just one
Speaker 2: more thing on that. So when you increase one site,
Speaker 2: you increase all the sites in the matrix. Oh, you're
Speaker 2: the principle of resonant entrainment. So if you do you know,
Speaker 2: energy work with one standing stone in a circle, for instance,
Speaker 2: the whole circle will light up or you know, expand
Speaker 2: its energy field.
Speaker 1: So the other temples kind of know you're coming. Then
Speaker 1: once you open what up? I mean because my mentor
Speaker 1: my an elder, and he said that it's easy enough
Speaker 1: just to have intention in your mind, bless the site
Speaker 1: and ask permission. Before we used to this years ago,
Speaker 1: we used to ask permission to enter an archaeological site
Speaker 1: like chicha Ushmol one of those big sites, and that
Speaker 1: was kind of the acknowledgment and uh, asking permission to enter,
Speaker 1: and also uh you know, it's a form of blessing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's making making contact, it's being humble, you know.
Speaker 2: And I've been doing the same sort of thing for
Speaker 2: many decades.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like I like the three taking a stone
Speaker 1: and tapping three times, like hello, we're here. But it's
Speaker 1: not just that. It's also maybe you know, short prayer
Speaker 1: of you know, we wish for the ancient ancestors to
Speaker 1: bless us and also perhaps provide us with data.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, you know, I mean once you open the door,
Speaker 2: I usually introduced myself first, you know, say, well, you
Speaker 2: know who I am. And I remember going to the
Speaker 2: Mayan temples and especially at Polenke, and you know, I
Speaker 2: didn't know to knock them, but I would stand at
Speaker 2: the entrance and just introduce myself and maybe put part
Speaker 2: of my body on the stone and just say I'm here,
Speaker 2: I'm your daughter, I'm here to learn whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's sad because we have these wonderful archaeologists
Speaker 1: that just can't grasp this. They're so locked into the
Speaker 1: Newtonian world. The if I can't replicate it in the
Speaker 1: scientific method, then it doesn't exist, and so they're really
Speaker 1: missing out. We have a lot of scientists and archaeologists
Speaker 1: on our program that you can't go there with subtle
Speaker 1: energy and stuff, even though they might be vibrating, you know,
Speaker 1: right in front of you the cliff.
Speaker 2: The good news now is that we have you know,
Speaker 2: the metaphysical and the scientific communities bridging, you know, and
Speaker 2: people like Michio Kaku who are talking about the dimensions
Speaker 2: of reality and the sound that holds it all together.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's a really exciting time we're in now.
Speaker 2: And people like Paul Devereux were doing scientific research at
Speaker 2: the Stone sites, you know, decades ago, and he was
Speaker 2: working with the guys in Princeton as well.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Paul. Didn't Paul call his.
Speaker 2: Group the Dragon the Dragon Project?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dragon Projects? So wow, Yeah, very very copasetic, fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want you to talk about Minorca, not Majorca, Minorca
Speaker 1: island off the coast of Spain and the discovery of
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred archaeological sites. I have no idea that there
Speaker 1: were that many there. Talk about that let us know
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are towels t shaped pillars that look
Speaker 2: exactly like Carahan Teppe and go Beckley Teppe. I was
Speaker 2: talking a lot to Andrew Collins while I was writing
Speaker 2: that chapter, because he had not only been there, but
Speaker 2: he's an expert on Karahan and go Beckley. And he
Speaker 2: mentioned a Turkish professor who was doing research on the
Speaker 2: migrations of the people from Turkey the Go Beckley Tepi era,
Speaker 2: and that they came into the West eventually. But the
Speaker 2: pillars that were built at Minorca were much later. They're
Speaker 2: dated somewhere between one and two thousand BC, so they
Speaker 2: don't really know the exact dating of them, but they're
Speaker 2: much later. But the structures are everywhere, and it's a
Speaker 2: tiny little island. But again it has magnetic anomalies. It
Speaker 2: has it's at the end of the fault line of
Speaker 2: the Pyrenees, even the it's running under the sea, and
Speaker 2: it has a stone unlike any of the other Balearic
Speaker 2: islands in its chain there. So it was recognized by
Speaker 2: the ancient people as a place that had a special energy.
Speaker 2: So they have little cigarette kind of mounds that are
Speaker 2: also temples there they had This is interesting they defended
Speaker 2: because they had so many traders coming through their island,
Speaker 2: because it's the first island that you reach in the
Speaker 2: Mediterranean when you're coming through the Pillars of Hercules or
Speaker 2: the Straits of Gibraltar, and it's also an island that
Speaker 2: you come to before you're landing in Iberia, so you know,
Speaker 2: all different cultures, the Egyptians, Phoenicians, etc. Were coming there
Speaker 2: and the locals had to defend their island, and they
Speaker 2: were using slingshots, and that's how the islands got their
Speaker 2: name because the slingers were so adept. They were hired
Speaker 2: by various Greek armies, the Carthaginian armies, you know, all
Speaker 2: these different armies because they were so clever and they
Speaker 2: just used slingshots.
Speaker 1: Well that could be deadly, you know, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but these they and they would you know,
Speaker 2: communicate from taula tula or tower to tower with lighting
Speaker 2: fires and mirrors, and because they were such a small island,
Speaker 2: they had to you know, communicate and let everybody know
Speaker 2: when people were arriving.
Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about the megalis
Speaker 1: on Minorca? Are they? Is it Dolmen and mirrors, and.
Speaker 2: A few doleans on Majorca and Minorca. But mainly it's
Speaker 2: the taoilas structures, the T shaped pillar structures and that
Speaker 2: that is probably the most fascinating thing there. And what
Speaker 2: is really interesting is they found Egyptian artifacts in the
Speaker 2: ritual enclosures. Yeah, they found a little statue of im Hotep,
Speaker 2: the great architect of the Zosar you know sta in Zakara, Yeah,
Speaker 2: in Hotep in Spain. I mean, who would have thought.
Speaker 2: And there are so many other examples of Egyptian relics
Speaker 2: that were discovered in Iberia, so we know there was,
Speaker 2: you know, more trade and more exchange of cultures than
Speaker 2: than we're normally aware of.
Speaker 1: Was in Hotep. In your opinion, idolized, Is that why
Speaker 1: there was a bronze statue of him?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he was considered to God because he was
Speaker 2: also a doctor medicine. He practiced medicine. He was a
Speaker 2: brilliant priest of the temple architect and many people relate
Speaker 2: him to a Sclepius and think that he may have
Speaker 2: been the same person. We don't know for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in your opinion of a dolmen. We see
Speaker 1: a dolmen. As you know, typically in Europe we see
Speaker 1: two huge walls and then a gigantic slab as a
Speaker 1: roof piece. Some people theorize that they're markers for energy
Speaker 1: and Eupe Northern Europe, in parts of Germany there's a
Speaker 1: front piece with a hole in him, and some people
Speaker 1: think they may have been used in later years as
Speaker 1: a burial. Do you have any sense as to what
Speaker 1: their purpose was.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't really think they were used for burial
Speaker 2: because they're pretty small. Most of the burial sites in
Speaker 2: Necropolis sites were nearby and you know, big mounds where
Speaker 2: where they could bury you know, several people many, but
Speaker 2: the dolman that I really worked with the most in
Speaker 2: Catalonia is the largest one in Catalonia. It's called Creo
Speaker 2: Da and Cobortella or covered cross. So it had the sides,
Speaker 2: it was huge maybe I can't remember right now, but
Speaker 2: maybe like ten eight meters long, I don't know. And
Speaker 2: so it has the sides and the back and the
Speaker 2: roof wow, and you can it's large enough to go into.
Speaker 2: And what I discovered is it has it's it's oriented
Speaker 2: exactly north south and it's in view of the sea
Speaker 2: and in view of the Sacred Mountain Canago, so it
Speaker 2: was well placed. It's on that energy point of that
Speaker 2: great Captain Creus, and it had an umbilical carving about
Speaker 2: an inch deep and about an inch wide diameter on
Speaker 2: the north facing stone. And I believe, because this was
Speaker 2: a tradition in a lot of different cultures, that it
Speaker 2: formed like an energetic umbilical cord to the north star axis.
Speaker 2: At the time it was built, it was the constellation
Speaker 2: Draco the Dragon. Hence another theme in all the megaliths
Speaker 2: that were established at that time, their orientation at the
Speaker 2: northern axis was Draco the Dragon. So this Dolman has
Speaker 2: an alignment to the stars. It also has alignments and
Speaker 2: light effects that occur at the winter solstice, several light daggers.
Speaker 2: There's a sunbird. I'll send you a couple of images.
Speaker 2: And so it was aligned to the winter solstice sunset.
Speaker 2: I've been there many times at that moment, and it's
Speaker 2: very very powerful at that time. It's like a seating
Speaker 2: or insemination of light at the winter solstice, so the
Speaker 2: earth becomes inseminated with life energy from the stars, which
Speaker 2: is our star, the Sun. But well, you know, also
Speaker 2: aligned to other particular stars depending on the dolmen or
Speaker 2: the many are.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 1: with my guest today, Annie Williams, discussing her new book,
Speaker 1: Guardian of the Dragon Path The Megaliths of Ancient Spain.
Speaker 1: Will be right back.
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Speaker 1: This week we're featuring a new author, Annie Williams, author
Speaker 1: of Guardians of the Dragon Path. This is a fascinating book,
Speaker 1: really really well written and detailed, and I have photographs
Speaker 1: that I will post of these various sits on the
Speaker 1: Facebook page. Go to face book or to Earthly Agents
Speaker 1: and take a look at them. They're on the group
Speaker 1: of the International site. Also you'll find them on the
Speaker 1: Instagram page, so check that out as well. Can you
Speaker 1: give us your impression of some of the energetics of
Speaker 1: these places. We mentioned this one dolman, this massive dolmen
Speaker 1: do you, as a sensitive person, feel just like a
Speaker 1: low buzz in your body. Do you feel reaching a
Speaker 1: certain area? Is there something about the energy patterns that
Speaker 1: you find that are unique.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, definitely with this Doleman and with others as well.
Speaker 2: With this Dolman, I'm more claire audient. I don't use
Speaker 2: my body as much. I feel thanks to my body,
Speaker 2: but more I hear frequencies, and that's kind of my job.
Speaker 2: So when I go into a place, I listen and
Speaker 2: then I'll hear a frequency. And on one occasion, I
Speaker 2: was in the Dolmen, just following winter solstice, and I
Speaker 2: listened for the tone, and I had a small harp
Speaker 2: and I started playing the tone and then the perfect
Speaker 2: fifth above it the harmonic, and I created a song
Speaker 2: while I was in the Dolmen. And that day I
Speaker 2: got back to my hotel and there was an announcement
Speaker 2: from spaceweather dot com get their emails when anything interesting
Speaker 2: happens in the celestial realm, and they said a pure
Speaker 2: musical tone came into the northern axis and again this
Speaker 2: Dolman is aligned to the northern axis. That afternoon and
Speaker 2: so I contacted the scientists that measured the frequency, and
Speaker 2: he said the frequency was really unusual. They don't usually
Speaker 2: measure exact frequency. He's coming into the northern axis, but
Speaker 2: they were able to discern that it lasted hours and
Speaker 2: hours and it moved through the earth as well as
Speaker 2: the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: Jesus, and you pressed a big button there.
Speaker 2: And so I contacted the scientist of course, and I said, hey,
Speaker 2: what was the frequency? And it gave me a figure
Speaker 2: that was about one hundred digits long and I had
Speaker 2: to keep reducing it to get it into the hearing range.
Speaker 2: And it was the same frequency that I heard and
Speaker 2: that I was playing in the Dolmen.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So that's when I mean when I say it's my job,
Speaker 2: it's like something I came here to do. I'm not special.
Speaker 2: Anybody can do this, but you know, it's important to
Speaker 2: find the frequencies of these sites and then sing back
Speaker 2: to them, and we not only create a connection, but
Speaker 2: we can help the site, you know, regain its energy.
Speaker 2: It's just like what we do in human healing. We
Speaker 2: get give frequencies so that people can can recover from
Speaker 2: certain illnesses or or belief systems.
Speaker 1: Even so there, and I believe this as well, there
Speaker 1: is a cosmological connection between these stone megalithic sites and
Speaker 1: the frequencies of the cosmos.
Speaker 2: And absolutely so.
Speaker 1: So what you're suggesting is that you can actually turn
Speaker 1: them on and uh through through a little bit of
Speaker 1: music or humming or singing or whatever. What would you
Speaker 1: say is that you're kind of you kind of give
Speaker 1: us a sense of it. You you triple, you turn
Speaker 1: it on and then you wait to receive data. Would
Speaker 1: you say, or is it more like you just kind
Speaker 1: of naturally intuitively work it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm more an intuitive and I'm not really trying
Speaker 2: to download information necessarily. I mean, if I hear something
Speaker 2: or I get something, I make a note of it always.
Speaker 2: And but I'm I'm I think my job and my
Speaker 2: work is more about connecting with sites, learning you know,
Speaker 2: what they might represent, and working with them with sound
Speaker 2: to help increase the energy field because you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of them were as we said, we're set in
Speaker 2: place to fix energy to create fertility in the region,
Speaker 2: and they can create a radiant zone for miles around,
Speaker 2: and a lot of the sites have gone to sleep
Speaker 2: or are shut down if they're not worked with. I mean,
Speaker 2: ancient people were working with these sites, so if we
Speaker 2: can work with them again, you know, not going in
Speaker 2: with our own idea necessarily, but listening and getting guidance
Speaker 2: what this was, what does? What does the site want?
Speaker 2: Does need? And then helping to you know, increase the
Speaker 2: energy field.
Speaker 1: And the benefit to the physical being is that they
Speaker 1: are having the energy pass through them, which on some
Speaker 1: level maybe is healing, purifying, whatever. And I guess another
Speaker 1: question for you would be do you go in with
Speaker 1: a purpose If you have an issue I need to
Speaker 1: have more knowledge? Can you help me? I have a
Speaker 1: physical illness? Can you help me? So forth and so on?
Speaker 1: How would you? How would you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I think this idea came you know, the
Speaker 2: ancient sanctuaries would have been used in that way. You know,
Speaker 2: people it would go to a spring or a stone
Speaker 2: and ask for help, ask for healing, make their prayers.
Speaker 2: A lot of times women would go and pray for
Speaker 2: good birth. And this idea continued much later around fifteen
Speaker 2: hundred and then into the later Greek Sleppian temples. People
Speaker 2: went for soul healing, not just physical healing, but you know,
Speaker 2: help with every kind of issue. And people would go
Speaker 2: into a dream incubation and ask for help from the deity,
Speaker 2: you know, and they'd wait till a Scleppius came to
Speaker 2: them in a dream and told them what to do.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, we've lost that, and it's so
Speaker 1: nice to hear you talk about it, because you know,
Speaker 1: ashes to ashes, dust to dust. We are part of
Speaker 1: the planet and we're vibrating and we're on a certain
Speaker 1: frequency and it's probably important. And you know, our ancients
Speaker 1: would go to these places, as you say, and get healing.
Speaker 1: And what you're bringing up in this book and I'd
Speaker 1: love to see another book on this is how to
Speaker 1: turn these things on. So we're walking through a temple
Speaker 1: and you close your eyes and you maybe hum or
Speaker 1: have intonation and triggers something. I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of throwing it right.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, the first step is always
Speaker 2: listening and becoming empty and just listening, and then you know,
Speaker 2: trusting what we hear and then following through. And if
Speaker 2: we work with sound, we can we can make a
Speaker 2: hum or, you know, offer a offer an instrument of
Speaker 2: flute or whatever. I think that that, you know, we're
Speaker 2: just waking up to the fact that everything is interconnected,
Speaker 2: the stars, the earth, our bodies and our psyche is
Speaker 2: interacting with all of these realities simultaneously. I mean, science
Speaker 2: knows that that, you know, neutrinos, it's like free energy
Speaker 2: flying through the galaxies. Neutrinos have almost no mass, so
Speaker 2: they can move through walls. They moved through the entire
Speaker 2: Earth constantly. Every second we're getting bombarded by neutrinos. Neutrinos
Speaker 2: have energy information from the stars, so all of this
Speaker 2: is available all the time. I think we just haven't
Speaker 2: thought of asking and listening, and you know a lot
Speaker 2: of times, and we're so busy in this modern world.
Speaker 1: I also think that this Wi fi world we're in
Speaker 1: the Internet and everything being in the atmosphere is kind
Speaker 1: of jamming our senses. Don't you think it can?
Speaker 2: It can? And if you live in a peaceful, quiet
Speaker 2: you know. I mean even our little tiny village in
Speaker 2: France has Wi Fi everywhere. So I think we have
Speaker 2: to consciously work at it, you know, to keep connected.
Speaker 2: But you know, in acknowledging the stars every night and
Speaker 2: connecting with the Earth and doing some sort of meditation
Speaker 2: and some sort of sound work also helps. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of ways that we
Speaker 2: can maintain this connection.
Speaker 1: Let's move into some religious areas. You reference Mary Magdalena
Speaker 1: a lot. What's the connection there.
Speaker 2: Ah, well, she was very popular in this area, in
Speaker 2: southern France, across Provence. In fact, a lot of legends
Speaker 2: speak about her coming in a boat with Lazarus, Martha
Speaker 2: and a large company of the apostles and in the
Speaker 2: first century and coming to France, and you know, spreading
Speaker 2: out from this area. And there are a lot of
Speaker 2: early church fathers that wrote about the large amount of
Speaker 2: disciples that spread out in every tradition. So Magdalena became
Speaker 2: very very popular in southern France and then into Spain.
Speaker 2: I find that she's even more popular in Catalonia and
Speaker 2: in Galicia even then in this area. And so I
Speaker 2: propose a theory in the book and maps that show
Speaker 2: the travel route that she very well could have come
Speaker 2: into Iberia. There are legends that two female disciples brought
Speaker 2: the body of Saint James, James the Great, which is
Speaker 2: the disciple who came into Spain and was the whole
Speaker 2: Camino is named for Santiago or Saint James. So there
Speaker 2: are many legends and stories and some documentation, nothing definite,
Speaker 2: but there are so many sites dedicated to Mary Magdalene
Speaker 2: in this area. I discovered just in Catalonia alone, sixty
Speaker 2: four and sixty four as a magic number. When I
Speaker 2: found that there were sixty four, I also found from
Speaker 2: researchers and authors about the Camino de Santiago that there
Speaker 2: are sixty four stages to the Camino, and we know
Speaker 2: that sixty four are the Venus cycles. Every eight years
Speaker 2: Venus makes a pentagram. But eight times eight is the
Speaker 2: sixty four cycles of Venus that the Mayans and the
Speaker 2: Babylonians we're tracking. So we have this sixty four theme.
Speaker 2: It's in the end of the Guardians of the Dragon
Speaker 2: Path book, the last couple of chapters. This initiation path
Speaker 2: of the Camino was actually connecting with our genetic coding
Speaker 2: because we have sixty four codons or genetic possibilities from
Speaker 2: all of the genes. We have sixty four squares on
Speaker 2: that chessboard, the game of life, sixty four spots on
Speaker 2: the ancient game that they played on the Camino, which
Speaker 2: is called the Game of the Goose. It just goes
Speaker 2: on and on. So the sixty four churches of Mary Magdalene,
Speaker 2: I found a great deal of them were lined up
Speaker 2: on this cross.
Speaker 1: Really wow.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you know, so on the Paris Meridian and
Speaker 2: then going on the east West document Us as well,
Speaker 2: and they were a lot of them surrounded by night
Speaker 2: templar sites. And apparently the templars were guardians of you know,
Speaker 2: not only guardian pilgrims, but guardians of the feminine traditions
Speaker 2: that the Church didn't really embrace that much. I mean,
Speaker 2: the Catholic Church loves Mary, Mother Mary, but they wiped
Speaker 2: out Mary Magdalene, you know, for two thousand years. So
Speaker 2: the fact that she's coming back now is really symbolic
Speaker 2: in this reclaiming of a whole other piece of our
Speaker 2: history in Christianity, but also for people in general. You know,
Speaker 2: the role that Mary Magdalene may have played was, as
Speaker 2: you know, the apostle to the apostles. So she's a
Speaker 2: big deal. And to the people of northern Spain, she
Speaker 2: was a really big deal.
Speaker 1: Are there any noted cathedrals too that are dedicated to her?
Speaker 2: Well, many, many, many many. Actually, you have one in
Speaker 2: the United States in Salt Lake City. It's the largest
Speaker 2: cathedral dedicated to Magdalen in the US. But here we
Speaker 2: have many many of course, in Paris, we have La Madelaine,
Speaker 2: we have Visilee, we have oh, what's it called, some maximums,
Speaker 2: some bone we have and then we have many monasteries
Speaker 2: and churches you know, again hundreds and hundreds of those
Speaker 2: dedicated to her.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Is there a connection between what you would say the
Speaker 1: Basque people, which we haven't really talked a great deal about,
Speaker 1: and their possible connection with the fable land of Atlantis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure, but we do know that the
Speaker 2: Basque language and the Besque people are so ancient we
Speaker 2: can't even track where they came from, so it's possible.
Speaker 2: But there is a lot of research. In fact, you
Speaker 2: may have seen that program on Discovery that James Cameron produced,
Speaker 2: the director, and he found many sites that are said
Speaker 2: to be Atlantean structures in southern Spain, and there are
Speaker 2: places in the in the sea, in the ocean there
Speaker 2: that that are also perhaps related to ancient Atlantis. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of sites actually in just near Granada,
Speaker 2: but toward the toward this the Mediterranean that are said
Speaker 2: to have been water works that were used by the
Speaker 2: Atlanteans and fantastic sites. There's one called Olekun. It's a
Speaker 2: natural hot spring that they channeled the waters for miles
Speaker 2: and miles across the land into the great cities on
Speaker 2: the coast. So, you know, we think that these some
Speaker 2: of these great canal some waterworks are so ancient. I mean,
Speaker 2: my researcher friend Juan Siez that I mentioned, says that
Speaker 2: they're eighteen thousand years old. You know, we haven't dated
Speaker 2: them exactly, but that's what he says.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that a friend of yours. One. I'm to
Speaker 1: have to find more information about him as we come
Speaker 1: to the end of our time. Any are there stone
Speaker 1: circles in any of these regions where they're similar to
Speaker 1: Stonehenge or some of the other stone circles around the
Speaker 1: world that we see that are what you would consider
Speaker 1: observatories of the cosmos.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think so many of these places where observatories
Speaker 2: to the cosmos. And when we have stone circles not
Speaker 2: far from here, just in the northern section of Catalonia
Speaker 2: near the sea, a double stone circle that's aligned to
Speaker 2: winter solstice with a man are in the center of
Speaker 2: the circle that lights up when the winter solstice sunsets.
Speaker 2: We have so many sites that were aligned to stellar alignments,
Speaker 2: mainly the sun, but sometimes as I mentioned with Creo
Speaker 2: Day and Colbertella Dolman aligned to Draco the constellation at
Speaker 2: the northern axis at the time it was created. So yeah,
Speaker 2: there are many and we have I think a Spanish
Speaker 2: stonehenge that was discovered not too long ago. I don't
Speaker 2: know a lot about it. I haven't been there. The
Speaker 2: stones aren't as large, but we have structures that are
Speaker 2: enormous Dolmens in Portugal and southern Spain. I mean they're
Speaker 2: larger than anything I've seen in England.
Speaker 1: Wow, fantastic. The books called Guardians of the Dragon Path.
Speaker 1: My guess today has been Annie Williams. This book is
Speaker 1: available on Amazon. What's your website? Annie, give us your
Speaker 1: website real quickly so we kind of get a sense
Speaker 1: of how to contact you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Annie Williams dot com, A and I Williams dot com.
Speaker 1: That's easy enough. As we leave, what would you like
Speaker 1: the reader to get from your book? I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: I don't know of anyone else English writer that has
Speaker 1: written is extensively about this area as you have. There's
Speaker 1: probably some European authors and some archaeologists that I've written
Speaker 1: extensively it, but I'm not familiar with him. But why
Speaker 1: is this important?
Speaker 2: I think it's just helping us to remember our place
Speaker 2: in the universe, our placed on the earth, how to
Speaker 2: work with the various energies and dimensions. In my book,
Speaker 2: I talk about, you know, working with the our own
Speaker 2: energy system and breathing techniques and using vowel sounds and mantras,
Speaker 2: you know, that can put us in touch with not
Speaker 2: only our own energy system, but the world around us.
Speaker 2: I think when we use some of these techniques that
Speaker 2: people use throughout time for ascension, rebirth, awakening, you know,
Speaker 2: this puts us in a more awakened state so that
Speaker 2: we can perceive these subtle energies and then start living
Speaker 2: in a more conscious way.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you're you're seeing we're kind of unconscious right now.
Speaker 2: Well most humanity, myself included. You know, we're just we're
Speaker 2: just waking up, we're just remembering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I I totally agree with you. Annie.
Speaker 1: It's been a real pleasure. We're going to have to
Speaker 1: have you back just to talk about some of these
Speaker 1: Stone megalists because there's just too much to cover in
Speaker 1: your book. So thanks for joining me. It was real fun.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated and awestruck at these dolmen and this
Speaker 1: whole area that Annie has introduced us to, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to see if we can get a tour together.
Speaker 1: I have not been to that part of Spain. I've
Speaker 1: been to Barcelona years ago. I think I was in college,
Speaker 1: and this is an area that is unexplored people that
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with, and we don't hear from the regulars,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't hear enough from other people who
Speaker 1: are looking at megalists. So this is a good opportunity
Speaker 1: to take it out. I don't see if I can
Speaker 1: get any to join us. So if you're interested in
Speaker 1: a tour to this area of Spain, including those islands,
Speaker 1: the Majorca and Minorca island with fifteen hundred archaeological sites,
Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. We're gonna see what we can do
Speaker 1: a one week tour with Cliff. Think about it. If
Speaker 1: you want to join me. If you'd like to join me,
Speaker 1: I should say, send me an email. Send it to
Speaker 1: Earth Ancients to the number for the letter you at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That's that's a flight that's probably twenty
Speaker 1: hours if you're in California like me, but you know,
Speaker 1: this is a real fantastic possibility that we can put together.
Speaker 1: So and I like to see these things up close
Speaker 1: and personal, and we'll make it as reasonable as possible.
Speaker 1: So if you're thinking about it, send me an email
Speaker 1: Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com. We'll see
Speaker 1: what we can pull together. I'm gonna have to have
Speaker 1: her back because this gallery, these gallery photos that she
Speaker 1: just sent me are phenomenal. I have not seen dolmen
Speaker 1: of this size and quantity ever. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: go to Europe and Abeburry England and see clusters, but
Speaker 1: you don't see this many fifteen hundred. And the other
Speaker 1: thing is, of course the food. It's probably gonna be excellent.
Speaker 1: But this is really contemporary. This is really a link
Speaker 1: to perhaps an earlier civilization. You know, the bask people
Speaker 1: are very unusual, and we're not sure, they're not sure
Speaker 1: they're roots. So we'll consider that, we'll consider we'll consider going.
Speaker 1: Let's go, come on, let's go. Can you imagine a
Speaker 1: time when each participant of a tour would be handed
Speaker 1: a measuring device, They walk to a temple or a megalithic,
Speaker 1: say a dolmen, They turn the device on it has
Speaker 1: a certain measuring frequency. They put earphones on, they hear
Speaker 1: a tone, and right there, then and there they decide
Speaker 1: if they want to interact with it. That's what the
Speaker 1: future is going to hold. And as Annie was saying,
Speaker 1: you link by toning, You do a little whistle or
Speaker 1: you hum, and then you're locked in. You're plugged into
Speaker 1: that site. That's what the future is. And I think
Speaker 1: Annie's got something going, you know where she's thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: rather than bring a musical instrument, maybe you tone real quickly.
Speaker 1: And you said it an, I'd like to know more
Speaker 1: about you standing stone, and all of a sudden you're
Speaker 1: plugged in. I thought the whole idea. And she brought
Speaker 1: this up that you intend at one site and it's
Speaker 1: all linked to one big harmonic harmonic energy highway. So
Speaker 1: once you introduce yourself to one, then you're automatically invited
Speaker 1: or in harmony, in resonance with the others. That is
Speaker 1: something I find fascinating. So so here you go, you
Speaker 1: got your headset, you're in there, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you're plugging in and you do a short toning.
Speaker 1: You're locked in, and then it's like, I want to
Speaker 1: know more about you. I want to know more about myself.
Speaker 1: I don't feel well. I haven't felt well. Tell me
Speaker 1: what this is about. And you have, you know, a
Speaker 1: direct link to the gods, to the vibrational universe. Isn't
Speaker 1: that fascinating? So there you go, and I think we're
Speaker 1: almost there. I mean, we do have electronic yeah, e
Speaker 1: electromagnetic meters that can measure energy, but we need to
Speaker 1: take it to the next level and pick up on
Speaker 1: any tones. That's the future. That's the future of my friends.
Speaker 1: That is what's happening. You can get electrical magnetic frequency
Speaker 1: devices right now. You can get them as low as
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks. And you know, I have one. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily find it that effective, but perhaps they're going
Speaker 1: to find tune them. So something to think about. All right,
Speaker 1: that's it for this program. I want to think. My
Speaker 1: guest today, Annie Williams committed to us from France or
Speaker 1: her new book, Guardians of the Dragon Path. You can
Speaker 1: get it on Amazon, came out a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: As always, the team of Gail Tour, Mark Foster and
Speaker 1: everyone who makes us things happened. You guys are rock
Speaker 1: all right, take care of you well. And we will
Speaker 1: talk to you next time.