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<v Speaker 1>Episode with two stories. First part, I hope you enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>this story. Harmful guardians who expelled me at eighteen and

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<v Speaker 1>disconnected from me appeared at my son's celebration to request

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<v Speaker 1>funds and later attempted to bring me to court court

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty thousand dollars. I never stole, Hey, everyone, So

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<v Speaker 1>I twenty eight m celebrated my son's third birthday three

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<v Speaker 1>days ago. It was mostly our co workers with kids

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of my son's friends from his daycare

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<v Speaker 1>with their parents. I'd also invited my estranged parents to

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<v Speaker 1>the party after they contacted me two weeks ago asking

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<v Speaker 1>if they could meet me to make amends with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Some backstory here, so it makes sense why I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get along with them. So my parents kicked me out

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago, a couple of months before I was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to start college. To make it extra special and poetic,

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<v Speaker 1>they also made sure to kick me out on my

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth birthday. My parents were never the most loving or

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<v Speaker 1>caring people. I'd say that I was pretty much ignored

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<v Speaker 1>and unwanted throughout my childhood, and the only reason my

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<v Speaker 1>parents didn't kick me out way before eighteen was probably

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<v Speaker 1>because it would be illegal, but they did so the

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<v Speaker 1>first chance that they got, and I wasn't even surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that they were kicking me out. I was just surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that they were doing it on my birthday and just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months before college was about to begin.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to talk them into letting me live with

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<v Speaker 1>them just until I graduated and covering my tuition, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were very sure of what they wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted me out of their lives so they could

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever they'd wanted to so far, instead of wasting

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<v Speaker 1>their time taking care of me. Their plans were to

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<v Speaker 1>start their own business, which is a financial risk they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't take as long as they had me to look after,

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<v Speaker 1>and then travel all the states in an RV. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a great plan. I have nothing against what they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do, but not at the cost of my future.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried every manipulation tactic in the book to make

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<v Speaker 1>them change their plans, but with no luck. I even

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<v Speaker 1>resorted to crying and sobbing, but that didn't help either,

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<v Speaker 1>and they told me that I had one month to

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<v Speaker 1>vacate the house and find a way for myself to

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<v Speaker 1>cover my own expenses. I'd already been working as a

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<v Speaker 1>cashier at one of the stores in the local mall

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<v Speaker 1>and saving some money to buy a car, but after

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<v Speaker 1>my parents talk, I decided to leave and put that

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<v Speaker 1>money to use. I didn't have much, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>extremely upset with my parents. I'd never liked them much,

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<v Speaker 1>but after my birthday I hated them, so within the

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<v Speaker 1>next two days, I texted all my relatives if they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to help me out. Most of them turned

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<v Speaker 1>their backs on me, which was unsurprising and was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of the reason I'd never spoken anything against

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<v Speaker 1>my parents before, because I'd never had anyone to count on.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends were nice, but they had their own lives

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<v Speaker 1>and wouldn't want me sticking around to live with them either.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm lucky that one of my distant relatives, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my mother's cousins, Uncle Kevin, responded to my e

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<v Speaker 1>mail and told me that I could come live with him,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd need to make myself useful for as long

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<v Speaker 1>as I would stay. I just needed somewhere to go

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<v Speaker 1>and live before pack my bags and let to travel

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<v Speaker 1>to Utah so I could live with Uncle Kevin. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't tell my parents anything in Nita. Did they ask.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even tell them good bye one last time

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<v Speaker 1>before I left, and I don't suppose they cared much

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Uncle Kevin was a nice guy, and he

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<v Speaker 1>did make me help him out with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things around the house, but it was nothing impossible. He

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<v Speaker 1>also ran his own diner, which was pretty popular among

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<v Speaker 1>the locals, and he told me that I could work

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<v Speaker 1>there as the cashier for the time being, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I was diligent and sincere, he'd pay for my tuition.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a little eccentric, but he was rolling in

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<v Speaker 1>money from his grandparents inheritance, and since he had no

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<v Speaker 1>family of his own, he could afford to spend his

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<v Speaker 1>money on things like these. And that's how I paid

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<v Speaker 1>for college by showing my uncle just how serious I

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<v Speaker 1>was at the diner by working well and honestly. After

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<v Speaker 1>I graduated and moved out, I offered to start paying

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<v Speaker 1>him back, but he told me not to bother and

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<v Speaker 1>said that he'd collect his dues when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger success story. He was weird but sweet. Unfortunately, he

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<v Speaker 1>never came to collect his dues, since just a few

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<v Speaker 1>years after I left, he passed away from a stroke.

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<v Speaker 1>It was sudden, and by the time his housekeeper got

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<v Speaker 1>him to the hospital, it was too late already. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thankful for whatever he did for me, and I'll always

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<v Speaker 1>be grateful that he was able to at least be

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<v Speaker 1>present at my wedding and take the place of my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Kevin never really got along with his family, including

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<v Speaker 1>my mother, as a child or even as an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>so my parents were never able to find out where

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<v Speaker 1>I spent those years and who covered my tuition for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe they'd found out, but they just didn't bother

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<v Speaker 1>to contact me. Either way, I never heard from my

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<v Speaker 1>parents even once after I left their house until a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago. They told me that they'd found me

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<v Speaker 1>on social media through a cousin who's helped them trace

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<v Speaker 1>me down, since they'd heard from people that I was

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<v Speaker 1>now married and even had a three year old son

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<v Speaker 1>of my own. They apologized in their message for all

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<v Speaker 1>that they'd done all those years ago and told me

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<v Speaker 1>that now they'd love to come to see me and

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<v Speaker 1>make things right with me, mostly because they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>meet my wife and son. I thought it was really

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<v Speaker 1>half hearted and almost didn't reply to them, but they

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<v Speaker 1>sent another one within a day of that message, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that they really wanted to meet their grandson while they

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<v Speaker 1>were still around, and it was evident that they were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to emotionally manipulate me. Nevertheless, I agreed and told

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<v Speaker 1>them to come over on the day of my son's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have anything in mind particularly, but after talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my wife and discussing the messages with her, she

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<v Speaker 1>told me she didn't mind having them over as long

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<v Speaker 1>as I was okay with it. She knows all the

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<v Speaker 1>history with them, and we've been married for five years now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been ten years since my parents kicked me out.

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<v Speaker 1>So she told me that if I believed it was

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<v Speaker 1>water under the bridge, then I could invite them. Her

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<v Speaker 1>own parents had passed away when she was really little,

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<v Speaker 1>and she'd been raised by her grandparents, both of whom

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<v Speaker 1>had passed away in the last couple of years, so

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell that she really wanted some family to

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<v Speaker 1>be present at the party. I didn't care about reconciliation,

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<v Speaker 1>but I felt like my wife actually did want them

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<v Speaker 1>and wasn't saying it because she didn't want a strong

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<v Speaker 1>army into anything. So I did invite my parents for

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's sake. And on the day of the party,

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<v Speaker 1>they arrived an hour early before all the other guests

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<v Speaker 1>so we could get some one on one time with

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<v Speaker 1>each other. It was all very awkward and uncomfortable, but

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<v Speaker 1>we tried to make small talk after I'd introduced them

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<v Speaker 1>to my wife and son. They were polite and respectful

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, but then at one point, my

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<v Speaker 1>wife went into the kitchen to make my dad some tea,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when my mother told me that she was

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<v Speaker 1>here to discuss something else as well, and she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it in front of my wife, so

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<v Speaker 1>they'd asked her for tea. Now that it was just

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us, my parents apologized to me again

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<v Speaker 1>and said that they'd come to their senses now that

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<v Speaker 1>they'd done whatever they'd wanted to and felt like they

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<v Speaker 1>had really treated me badly during my childhood. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that it was pretty nice of them to apologize and

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<v Speaker 1>that they'd finally started acting like human beings to me,

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<v Speaker 1>But before I could accept their apology in person, they

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<v Speaker 1>went on to tell me that they now needed money

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a major reason that they were here

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Apparently they'd blown through a lot of their

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<v Speaker 1>savings while traveling, and now they were falling shit short

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<v Speaker 1>while trying to pay for all their bills on time,

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<v Speaker 1>and wanted my help to live. They knew that my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and I were relatively well off. She was a

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<v Speaker 1>real estate agent and I worked in a bank, so

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<v Speaker 1>we were comfortable and could afford to help them. I

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<v Speaker 1>was very irritated by that because it just cheapened everything

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<v Speaker 1>that they'd said to me, because now I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it was all just a ploy to get me to

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<v Speaker 1>help them out financially. They'd even used their grandson and

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<v Speaker 1>their tactics to try and make me soften up towards them,

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<v Speaker 1>and while it hadn't been very effective on me, my

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<v Speaker 1>wife had fallen for it. I didn't blame her because

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't know just how awful my parents were and

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<v Speaker 1>really missed her family, which is why she was so

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<v Speaker 1>keen for us to fix our relationship, but I regretted

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<v Speaker 1>ever having them over. I didn't say anything to them then,

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<v Speaker 1>because just afterward, my wife walked in with the tea

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<v Speaker 1>for my dad and coffee for the rest of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and she seemed very happy. So I just stayed quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mother told me to think about it. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife did ask me what we'd been talking about, but

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<v Speaker 1>I told her that we'd talk about it later because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to get into an argument with my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Around the same time as when the guests were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to start arriving, my wife talked to my parents some

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<v Speaker 1>more for the next couple of minutes, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>an easy flowing conversation for her since she seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>like them. But I sat there quietly because I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted them to leave before I lost it at them. Luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>the first guests arrived just in the nick of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I jumped at the opportunity to distract myself from this.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the guests were there, I busied myself with my

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<v Speaker 1>son and the party arrangements, and then it was time

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<v Speaker 1>for my son to cut the cake, which went well.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone had fun. Right after that, I was about to

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<v Speaker 1>go into the kitchen with my wife, but my parents

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<v Speaker 1>stopped me and asked me once more if i'd come

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<v Speaker 1>to a decision yet. So I snapped and I told

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<v Speaker 1>them that they could wait in the living room with

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<v Speaker 1>all the other guests and i'd let them know Shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after everyone had received their slice, I took my spot

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the living room and started off

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<v Speaker 1>with a speech that I'd been preparing in my head

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<v Speaker 1>after my parents stopped me outside the kitchen. I introduced

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<v Speaker 1>my parents to all the other guests, since no but

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<v Speaker 1>he had met them before, and they looked pleased that

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<v Speaker 1>I was treating them well, but the smiles dropped from

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<v Speaker 1>their faces as soon as I went on to the

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<v Speaker 1>next part of my speech, where I started narrating the

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<v Speaker 1>story about my childhood and how they'd kicked me out,

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<v Speaker 1>after which I had to be taken in by my uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrapped it all up in light hearted jokes and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was laughing a little, but my parents looked humiliated,

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<v Speaker 1>and my wife had a poker face. Throughout. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>how my parents and I hadn't spoken for ten years

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<v Speaker 1>after they'd kicked me out, and finally recently they'd contacted

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<v Speaker 1>me to meet their grandson, and I'd almost ignore it

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<v Speaker 1>and blocked them, but then I'd changed my mind because

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<v Speaker 1>I was just grateful that, unlike other nightmarish parents, at

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<v Speaker 1>least mine wasn't after my money. I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>pass it off as a joke, and then I sat

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<v Speaker 1>After some time, the guests started leaving, and my parents

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<v Speaker 1>which I was thankful for because the last thing I

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<v Speaker 1>Once all the guests were gone and we put our

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<v Speaker 1>to my wife and explain everything to her. But before

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<v Speaker 1>told me that my speech was unnecessary and stupid. I

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't uncomfortable, and also to my parents were humiliating

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<v Speaker 1>them for no reason. I stopped her there and told

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<v Speaker 1>her what my parents had been here for, but she

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<v Speaker 1>said that she didn't care and said that I'd apparently

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<v Speaker 1>ruined our son's birthday and made it all about me

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<v Speaker 1>with that speech. I thought that was unfair because our

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<v Speaker 1>he was even going to remember any of this in

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<v Speaker 1>a few years or even in a few weeks. As

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<v Speaker 1>for the guests, they just found it funny because of

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<v Speaker 1>the way I'd told the story, keeping in mind that

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<v Speaker 1>this was my son's birthday and not the appropriate occasion

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<v Speaker 1>for any of what I'd done. But I just had

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<v Speaker 1>My wife wasn't on board with any of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>told me that I needed to apologize to everyone present

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<v Speaker 1>for my bad behavior. I was already very stressed out

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<v Speaker 1>that day because of my parents and the way my

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else, But it didn't sit right with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like she was totally invalidating my feelings about this situation,

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<v Speaker 1>even after she'd heard what my parents had come here for.

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<v Speaker 1>So I snapped at her too and told her that

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<v Speaker 1>I'd invited my parents because she wanted me to sew

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<v Speaker 1>if anything, she should be the one who should be

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<v Speaker 1>a little understanding right now, but she was just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how she felt, and I called herself involved. She

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And I still do. I tried to comfort

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<v Speaker 1>her immediately, but she shook me off and told me

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<v Speaker 1>that I was the one being self involved and hypocritical,

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<v Speaker 1>and until I apologized to everyone who had attended the party,

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't speak to me. She even moved all her

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<v Speaker 1>bedtime stuff to the guest bedroom and has been sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>there ever since. We haven't spoken since that night because

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't apologized to any of the guests yet. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think what I did was out of line or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like my wife's overreacting to what happened

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<v Speaker 1>at the party. Haven't heard back from my parents yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody from the party has said anything about my

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<v Speaker 1>speech either. I feel like she's built it up all

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<v Speaker 1>in her head and thinks that people are going to

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<v Speaker 1>judge us for that, but that's really not the case here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't even communicate that to her because she

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<v Speaker 1>just refuses to even speak to me. I also feel

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<v Speaker 1>like she's not trying to understand where I'm coming from

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<v Speaker 1>because I ignored my parents for the sake of my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and to maintain the peace before the party once already,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just couldn't take it a second time because

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<v Speaker 1>they were putting too much pressure on me, and the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I'd said about my wife wanting my parents

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<v Speaker 1>at the party more than I did was probably true.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't deny it when I brought it up during

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<v Speaker 1>our argument on the night of the party. My wife's

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<v Speaker 1>been acting like I totally ruin the party, but nobody

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<v Speaker 1>cares as much as she does. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>apologize to anyone because I don't think I did anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to do everything the right way, but even

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't end well for me. Somehow. My parents kicked

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<v Speaker 1>me out at eighteen and abandoned me for ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it was completely fair for me to

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<v Speaker 1>humiliate them at a party after they tried to screw

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<v Speaker 1>me over once more by asking me for financial help

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. I tried to deal with things

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<v Speaker 1>calmly and only acted emotionally after my parents took things

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<v Speaker 1>too far, and I really think my wife needs to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that. I guess I can apologize to her for

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<v Speaker 1>calling herself involved. That was not cool, but that's really

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<v Speaker 1>the most I feel like I should do. Apart from that,

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely don't think I have anything to apologize for.

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<v Speaker 1>I can even consider apologizing to the guests, but certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not to my parents, so that I'd offer making a

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<v Speaker 1>speech at my son's birthday party to humiliate my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>who would ask me for money to help them after

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<v Speaker 1>they kicked me out and cut me off for ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Update one, So I talked to my wife about this today.

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<v Speaker 1>The comment section on my original post was pretty divided

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<v Speaker 1>on what I should have done, so I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>just say screw it and talk to my wife because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how the marriage will work anyway. It's been six

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<v Speaker 1>days since the party and six days of not talking

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<v Speaker 1>to each other and sleeping in different rooms. We tried

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it low key for the sake of our son,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not old enough to notice these things yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was even less of an excuse for us

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to each other. But today, before we left

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<v Speaker 1>for work, I stopped her and told her that we

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely needed to talk. She didn't ignore me, luckily, and

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<v Speaker 1>our son was having breakfast in the other room so

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<v Speaker 1>we could talk peacefully. I told her that I was

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for calling herself involved, but apart from that, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see any reason for me to be sorry. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't ruin the party for anyone like she believed, and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody even cares about the speech because nobody's brought it

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<v Speaker 1>up with me yet, not even my parents. I told

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<v Speaker 1>her as gently and respectfully as I could that I

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<v Speaker 1>believed she'd overreacted a bit, and then waited for her

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<v Speaker 1>to respond. She agreed that she had indeed over reacted,

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<v Speaker 1>and said that for the past few days, once her

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<v Speaker 1>anger over what I'd done had cooled off a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd realized that she'd acted very selfishly and hadn't been

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about my feelings at all. She also conceded that

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<v Speaker 1>she'd sort of made me invite my parents to reconcile,

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<v Speaker 1>even though she hadn't verbally said it. While we'd been

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<v Speaker 1>discussing the idea, she'd been very nonverbally trying to influence

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<v Speaker 1>me because she was the one who actually wanted a

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<v Speaker 1>happy family for us. So I wasn't wrong about that

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<v Speaker 1>after all, and she apologized to me for it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Her reasons were pretty valid if I think about it emotionally,

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<v Speaker 1>because all she'd really wanted was for us to have

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<v Speaker 1>a complete family that she'd never really had as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd hoped that as a married woman, she'd get some

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, but here too, her in laws were estranged,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was no chance that her son could get

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<v Speaker 1>the same love and affection from his grandparents that she'd

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<v Speaker 1>been lucky to have. She didn't get the love from

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<v Speaker 1>her parents that she deserved when she was young because

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<v Speaker 1>they'd passed away so early, and now her son would

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<v Speaker 1>be loved by his parents, but he'd never have any

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<v Speaker 1>grand parents there for him. Of course, that meant a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to her because she'd been raised by her grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>after her parents passed away, so it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal for her. It was all these issues

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<v Speaker 1>with her and her need to have a complete family

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<v Speaker 1>that made her spas out the other day, and she

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledged it. I also apologized for not discussing these things

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<v Speaker 1>with her and for the lack of communication that had

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<v Speaker 1>actually led to all of this. So to sum it up,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked things through and afterwards we came to the

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion that we were going to have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>this in therapy. We already go to individual therapy, but

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<v Speaker 1>now we're going to consider couples counseling as well for

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<v Speaker 1>a few other unrelated reasons as well. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>all the comments. You guys. Update two. I posted an

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<v Speaker 1>update here yesterday, and I really didn't expect to be

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<v Speaker 1>back so soon, but I am thanks to my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>They sent me a lawsuit claiming that i'd stolen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars from them before it run away ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and now that they'd finally managed to track me down,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted money back. Obviously none of that is true,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel sorry for the idiot who's agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in this as an attorney must be some

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's really in need of money, because otherwise I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine anyone agreeing to this anyway. I'm obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>going to entertain any of this nonsense and have contacted

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<v Speaker 1>my lawyer already. My wife took back everything that she

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<v Speaker 1>said about me having to apologize to my parents because

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<v Speaker 1>now she's seen what kind of people they really are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they think they can get away with this

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<v Speaker 1>even now, since I was relatively kind to them back

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<v Speaker 1>when they first came by. But they'll know that I

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<v Speaker 1>just behaved myself back then because it was my son's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I have no reason to think about the consequences,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm posting all about this online, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that everyone knows about not just what

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying right now, but also what they'd done to

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<v Speaker 1>me back in the past. Update three, So I posted everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single detail that I'd shared here is now up

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<v Speaker 1>on my Facebook profile. It's been twenty minutes and I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't received any texts or calls as such. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>waiting because I know people are going to be mad

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<v Speaker 1>and pissed, especially since I mentioned how nobody in my

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<v Speaker 1>family had taken me in. But now that I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a somewhat decent position, everyone acts friendly with me. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never invited anyone to any events, just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>but my relatives who'd shut me out back then have

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<v Speaker 1>all turned over a new leaf in the last few

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<v Speaker 1>years and try to be on good terms with me,

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<v Speaker 1>which is all fake obviously. Just now they have their

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<v Speaker 1>own kinds to think of, and it doesn't hurt to

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<v Speaker 1>have a well connected relative who works in a bank

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<v Speaker 1>and is in a position to get them jobs. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know stuff is going to go down now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just waiting for them. Update four, Hey all, I'm back

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<v Speaker 1>after almost three days. So my parents went completely ballistic

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<v Speaker 1>after I made that post and called me up frantically

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<v Speaker 1>several times after the post to try and get me

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<v Speaker 1>to take it down, but I didn't listen until they

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<v Speaker 1>texted me and promised me that they'd withdraw their care.

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<v Speaker 1>I just needed that in writing somehow, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>that now. After that, they blocked me. The real nastiness

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<v Speaker 1>was because of my relatives, whom I'd mentioned by name

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<v Speaker 1>and my post, and they were so triggered by it

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<v Speaker 1>that they commented really nasty things about me, my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>and even my son under the post, which just proves

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<v Speaker 1>my point about them being terrible, selfish, and idiotic folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Their kids were the ones with the decency to apologize

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<v Speaker 1>for their parents' actions, which was really backward for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least some people had class and brains. I've

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<v Speaker 1>taken that post down now, but a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have seen it already, so everyone who turned their back

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<v Speaker 1>on me in the past got their karma and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad for it. Long story short, the parents withdrew their case,

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<v Speaker 1>I got back to my relatives, my wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>are still going strong. Thanks for being here read it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I'm going to take a break now.

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<v Speaker 1>Signing off by that's the end of the first story.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's begin the second one.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you enjoy this story. I'm calling off my

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<v Speaker 2>commitment because my partner may fall ill down the road.

427
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<v Speaker 2>We've been in a relationship for five years and they

428
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<v Speaker 2>are the one for me, and I literally can't imagine

429
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<v Speaker 2>being without him, So the thought of doing this is

430
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<v Speaker 2>making my stomach roll. He was adopted, and neither he

431
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<v Speaker 2>nor his parents knew much about his medical history. A

432
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<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago, he met his biological brother for the

433
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<v Speaker 2>first time and found out that his birth father had

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<v Speaker 2>passed from Huntington's disease. There's a fifty percent chance that

435
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<v Speaker 2>my fiancee also has the genetic defect that causes Huntington's,

436
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<v Speaker 2>but he refuses to get tested. It's not the disease

437
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<v Speaker 2>I'm scared of. It's the not knowing. If we know

438
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<v Speaker 2>he'll get it, we can prepare financially, practically, and emotionally.

439
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<v Speaker 2>He says a positive test result will hold him back

440
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<v Speaker 2>from living his life, but I feel like it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>How can we live with this giant may be looming

442
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<v Speaker 2>over us? How can I make smart decisions on where

443
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<v Speaker 2>to live, how to budget, or even whether or not

444
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<v Speaker 2>to have biological children with this man if I'm not

445
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<v Speaker 2>allowed to have all the facts. So I've come to

446
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<v Speaker 2>the decision that I have to break it off. I

447
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<v Speaker 2>respect his decision, but I can't understand or accept it.

448
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<v Speaker 2>I have literally no one I can talk to about

449
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<v Speaker 2>this because it's his EFANGI secret and not mine to tell. Edit.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go to work now, but I'll try

451
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<v Speaker 2>to continue responding throughout the day, especially to the comments

452
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<v Speaker 2>that exactly mirror the descending voice in my head. I

453
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<v Speaker 2>just want to clarify a few things up here. One

454
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<v Speaker 2>would not leave him if he tested positive for the defect.

455
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<v Speaker 2>I would not leave him if he got sick. I

456
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<v Speaker 2>just want a plan for us to be able to

457
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<v Speaker 2>afford the best life and care for him if he does,

458
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<v Speaker 2>which means we'd have to start immediately. Two. I don't

459
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<v Speaker 2>want or need perfect children. That isn't realistic, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is possible to avoid them being subjected to a fifty

461
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<v Speaker 2>to fifty chance of having this disease. Of course, there

462
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<v Speaker 2>are alternative options, but again they involve preparation and planning.

463
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<v Speaker 2>I'm more than willing to take a full genetic panel

464
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<v Speaker 2>as well. Three Yes, one or both of us could

465
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<v Speaker 2>get cancer or permanently disabled in an accident, or any

466
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<v Speaker 2>other number of things. But I've come to learn that

467
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<v Speaker 2>you can't plan for every unpredictable thing life throws at you.

468
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<v Speaker 2>This is the rare occasion that we do have the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to prepare for. Essentially, it comes down to the

470
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<v Speaker 2>fact that we're incompatible, regardless of how much we love

471
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<v Speaker 2>each other. I'm a planner and he's very laid back.

472
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<v Speaker 2>Until now, these traits have complimented each other, but unfortunately

473
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<v Speaker 2>they brought us to an impasse that I don't think

474
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<v Speaker 2>we can both move forward from happily. Second edit, I'm

475
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<v Speaker 2>floored at all of these responses, supportive and otherwise. At

476
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<v Speaker 2>the very least, I feel validated that this is a

477
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<v Speaker 2>complex issue with no clear and obvious answer. I've decided

478
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<v Speaker 2>to take a few steps back. Those of you who

479
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<v Speaker 2>brought up the fact that a few weeks is probably

480
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<v Speaker 2>too little time for him to fully process his possible

481
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<v Speaker 2>diagnosis have a really valid point. Just because I want

482
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<v Speaker 2>to immediately jump into problems solving mode doesn't mean it's

483
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<v Speaker 2>necessarily the right thing to do. So I'm not leaving yet.

484
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<v Speaker 2>At least and hopefully never. I'm going to find a

485
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<v Speaker 2>therapist to help me work through my anxieties and give

486
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<v Speaker 2>my fiance some space not literal, to work through his,

487
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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll revisit this conversation, hopefully with more patience

488
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<v Speaker 2>on my part and willingness to act on his. Third edit.

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<v Speaker 2>I know my title sucks. Sorry, but I can't do

490
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<v Speaker 2>anything about it now. It sounded fine at six a m.

491
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<v Speaker 2>When I made the post. Update posted September sixteenth, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. Update. I'm breaking off my engagement because my

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<v Speaker 2>fiance might get sick in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember me? I posted earlier this year about my fiancee

496
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<v Speaker 2>who was refusing to get tested for Huntington's after learning

497
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<v Speaker 2>he had a fifty to fifty chance of having the

498
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<v Speaker 2>genetic defect. Some of you gave me great advice and support,

499
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<v Speaker 2>others the wake up call I needed, and the rest

500
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<v Speaker 2>of you well read it and a reddit. I'm not

501
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<v Speaker 2>sure if it was obvious, but I was not in

502
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<v Speaker 2>a good place when I made that post. When I stress,

503
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<v Speaker 2>I don't sleep or eat for him. It may have

504
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<v Speaker 2>only been a few weeks to accept the situation, but

505
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<v Speaker 2>for me, it was a few long weeks of NonStop anxiety,

506
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<v Speaker 2>where I was lucky to get even an hour of

507
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<v Speaker 2>restless sleep a night. I was plain exhausted on top

508
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<v Speaker 2>of everything else, and only began to consider leaving when

509
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<v Speaker 2>I started to hit my breaking point. Anyway, we talked

510
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<v Speaker 2>about it at length. We cried, we fought, we researched.

511
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<v Speaker 2>I showed him empathy, We consulted with friends, family, and specialists.

512
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<v Speaker 2>We pressed pause for days or weeks when we needed

513
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<v Speaker 2>a break from the whole damn thing, and in the end,

514
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<v Speaker 2>he agreed to have the test. Guys to say we

515
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<v Speaker 2>dodged an absolute mailstrom of bullets would be putting it mildly.

516
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<v Speaker 2>He's negative both for developing the disease himself as well

517
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<v Speaker 2>as the risk of passing it on. No matter what

518
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<v Speaker 2>else happens, this is one area where he's assuredly safe.

519
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<v Speaker 2>All of this said, once the euphoria faded, we decided

520
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<v Speaker 2>it was necessary to put a hold on our engagement

521
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<v Speaker 2>and take some time apart. I still love him with

522
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<v Speaker 2>all my heart, but this was our first serious disagreement

523
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<v Speaker 2>as a couple, and it forced us to seriously refer

524
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<v Speaker 2>elect on ourselves and our relationship. Neither of our positions

525
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<v Speaker 2>were wrong, but they were so desperate that there was

526
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<v Speaker 2>no realistic compromise. I've spent the last few months traveling abroad,

527
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<v Speaker 2>and other than a few texts, we haven't spoken much.

528
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<v Speaker 2>But I'm home now and we have our second first

529
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<v Speaker 2>day tonight. Wish me luck edits I mentioned this a

530
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<v Speaker 2>million times in my first post, but here goes again.

531
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<v Speaker 2>I had no plans to leave if he tested positive.

532
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<v Speaker 2>I just needed to know so that we could plan

533
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<v Speaker 2>our lives accordingly. We decided together to take a break.

534
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<v Speaker 2>It's been an incredibly difficult, emotionally charged roller coaster of

535
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<v Speaker 2>a year. I didn't leave him. We planned from day

536
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<v Speaker 2>one to keep communication to a minimum. It was difficult.

537
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<v Speaker 2>I actually began keeping a journal of all the things

538
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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to call or text him about. It's extensive

539
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<v Speaker 2>and I can't wait to share it with him. I

540
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<v Speaker 2>didn't give him an ultimatum, but I understand why that's

541
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<v Speaker 2>the takeaway. I only told Reddit that I was thinking

542
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<v Speaker 2>of leaving, and I know that it was rational. Irrational. No,

543
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to kill myself. Sorry if that, Dissa

544
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<v Speaker 2>points you. Why does everyone seem to think that traveling

545
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<v Speaker 2>means sleeping around just gonna leave a little time line

546
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<v Speaker 2>here for those of you who think I've been traveling

547
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<v Speaker 2>since my last post. He learned that he was at

548
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<v Speaker 2>risk of developing h D. I posted on Reddit when

549
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<v Speaker 2>I reached my own breaking point and needed to vend

550
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<v Speaker 2>about how I was affected. We spent the next three

551
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<v Speaker 2>ish months discussing next steps, consulting professionals, meeting others in

552
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<v Speaker 2>our situation. He made his own decision to get tested.

553
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<v Speaker 2>That took a while, since there are a lot of

554
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<v Speaker 2>steps you have to go through before they'll even agree

555
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<v Speaker 2>to do it. We learned he's negative. We rode the

556
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<v Speaker 2>emotional high for a bit, then realized we weren't the

557
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<v Speaker 2>same people we were at the beginning of the year,

558
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<v Speaker 2>and no longer knew how to be together normally. Given

559
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<v Speaker 2>everything we learned about ourselves and each other during the

560
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<v Speaker 2>hardest of situations, we decided to take a break and

561
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<v Speaker 2>meet for dinner on September sixteenth. I'm now getting ready

562
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<v Speaker 2>to leave for said dinner. I meant to say this

563
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<v Speaker 2>last time too. Thank you to all of you who

564
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<v Speaker 2>are sharing your s stories about HD, chronic illness, and love.

565
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I haven't responded to everyone, but I'm reading

566
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<v Speaker 2>all of them and wishing you and your loved ones

567
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<v Speaker 2>nothing but health and happiness. Additional update in the comments,

568
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<v Speaker 2>op also found this post and left a comment, Oh

569
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<v Speaker 2>my god, I'm so happy I found this post after

570
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<v Speaker 2>losing an entire day to defending myself on Reddit. My

571
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<v Speaker 2>own fault. Lol, it happened last time too. The positive

572
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<v Speaker 2>tone here is amazing. Thank you all for reading and commenting.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise I'll come back tomorrow to let you know

574
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<v Speaker 2>how our date when I have butterflies and I can't

575
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<v Speaker 2>remember the last time I felt like this. Our slash

576
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<v Speaker 2>true off mitches doesn't allow links, so I hope you

577
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<v Speaker 2>guys don't mind if I leave this here. I've been

578
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<v Speaker 2>completely humbled by this disease and we're one of the

579
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<v Speaker 2>lucky ones. Second update posted September seventeenth, twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Second update. I'm breaking off my engagement because my fiance

581
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<v Speaker 2>might get sick in the future. No, I'm not this

582
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<v Speaker 2>about our date. This title continues to be embarrassingly bad

583
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Speaker 2>and now irrelevant, but I kind of feel like I'm

584
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<v Speaker 2>stuck with it now. Sorry if you're new here. My

585
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:12.240
<v Speaker 2>fiancee found out he was at risk of developing Huntington's disease.

586
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<v Speaker 2>I wanted him to get tested and he did not.

587
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<v Speaker 2>Months later he did, and thank god, he was negative.

588
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<v Speaker 2>The whole thing puts such a strain on us that

589
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<v Speaker 2>we decided to take a break. Last night, we went

590
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<v Speaker 2>on our second first date, and I can't believe how

591
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<v Speaker 2>many of you want to hear about it. Of course,

592
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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't leave you hanging, but there are a few

593
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<v Speaker 2>things I want to address first, so please bear with

594
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<v Speaker 2>me for a few more sentences. It feels like many

595
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<v Speaker 2>of you are determined for there to be a bad guy,

596
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<v Speaker 2>but please don't put this label on my fiance. He

597
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't deserve it. He's not a jerk, an asshole, or

598
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<v Speaker 2>an ostrich. He's a man who was suddenly forced to

599
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<v Speaker 2>face his own mortality. He had a very human response,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't make it any easier on him during

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<v Speaker 2>those first few weeks. On that note, it's great that

602
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<v Speaker 2>so many of you guys always react perfectly to every

603
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<v Speaker 2>tough situation life throws at you. I'm sadly not like that.

604
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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I fuck up, like I did by not initially

605
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<v Speaker 2>giving him enough time to process, but I owned up

606
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to that. Took several steps back, and he forgave me.

607
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what else you want from me. Lastly,

608
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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of comments about how the obvious

609
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<v Speaker 2>compromise was to just act like he had it, but

610
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<v Speaker 2>you know what, it was the idea of living like

611
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<v Speaker 2>he was dying that actually drove him get tested. He

612
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<v Speaker 2>didn't want us to unnecessarily save half our paychecks instead

613
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<v Speaker 2>of using them to enjoy life or deal with the

614
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<v Speaker 2>complications of IVF if we don't have two or forego

615
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<v Speaker 2>opportunities that didn't play nicely with the end of life

616
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<v Speaker 2>care plans we'd be making. Essentially, he concluded in his

617
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<v Speaker 2>words that the cat was already half way out of

618
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>the bag and it could come out, but it was

619
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<v Speaker 2>never going back in. If he was positive, we'd be

620
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<v Speaker 2>obsessing over every little thing being a possible symptom. But

621
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<v Speaker 2>if we left things as they were, we'd be doing

622
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<v Speaker 2>that anyway. That doesn't mean it was easy at all.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually had to make a second appointment to get

624
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<v Speaker 2>the results because he couldn't bring himself to hear them

625
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<v Speaker 2>the first time, But that was okay. I was there

626
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<v Speaker 2>for him the whole time to support him however he

627
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<v Speaker 2>needed me to Okay, I'm done with that, On to

628
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<v Speaker 2>what you actually clicked for. Do you guys know the

629
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<v Speaker 2>feeling of watching your favorite childhood movie for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in years and being nervous that it won't hold

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<v Speaker 2>up or have the same magic you remember. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what I was feeling yesterday. And I actually have

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<v Speaker 2>to thank everyone jumping down my throat in the comments

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<v Speaker 2>because you did a great job of distracting me from

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<v Speaker 2>the butterflies in my stomach. Well, the magic was still there.

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<v Speaker 2>We may have spent months apart, but it didn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>that way at all. In fact, everything felt even better

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<v Speaker 2>and more comfortable than when we parted. We felt like

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<v Speaker 2>the happy couple we'd been back in January. Before this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing started. It was like there was a weight

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<v Speaker 2>hanging over our relationship that was keeping us from actually

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward despite the good news, and it's finally been lifted.

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<v Speaker 2>Before last night, I couldn't remember the last time anything

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<v Speaker 2>with him felt bright and easy. But we're back, baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>The general consensus was that this was a dumb move,

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<v Speaker 2>that we should have opted for marriage counseling instead of

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<v Speaker 2>going our own ways for a bit. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship counselor. I'm not recommending this method to anyone. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why it worked for us. All I know

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<v Speaker 2>is that we were both so drained at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and we each had the same get feeling that a

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<v Speaker 2>complete separation was what we needed. Our relationship had become

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<v Speaker 2>far more exhausting than fawn, and I honestly believed that

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't have made it if we'd forced ourselves to

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<v Speaker 2>work together to fix it. Again, don't take relationship advice

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<v Speaker 2>from me, but trust your instincts. You have them for

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<v Speaker 2>a reason, and I'm sure you'll be happy to know

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<v Speaker 2>that he wasn't sitting at home pining for me while

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<v Speaker 2>I traped around Europe, not having intimacy with people. He

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<v Speaker 2>was busy with his own adventure. He bought a car.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in Manhattan, so that's a pretty big thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and road tripped across the country. We stayed up all night,

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<v Speaker 2>sharing stories and pictures and telling each other about the

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<v Speaker 2>people we'd met. It was absolutely amazing sharing our experiences

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<v Speaker 2>with each other. I know it may seem like it

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<v Speaker 2>would have been better if we'd done it together, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was something really special about living it through each

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<v Speaker 2>other's eyes. Anyway, we have the rest of our lives

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<v Speaker 2>to travel the world together because we're not breaking up.

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<v Speaker 2>Suck on that people who were hoping he'd leave me. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>we know this new honeymoon period wherein won't last forever,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really think we're prepared to handle whatever other

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<v Speaker 2>challenges life tries to throw at us. Honestly, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good chance we've already gotten through the worst one

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<v Speaker 2>knock wood. But even if there's something bigger and badder

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for us, I'm completely optimistic will be okay. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's that we've officially reached the other side of our

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<v Speaker 2>first major life issue together. Did either of us behave perfectly?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to be perfect next time? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we one hundred percent committed to combining our completely

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<v Speaker 2>opposite ways of dealing with crises into a superpower design

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<v Speaker 2>to crush conflict like a nineties cartoon? Absolutely? Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>listening to my story. Every one roll credits
