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Speaker 1: Thank you, Alex. It's glad to be back with you.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the history of political assassinations
from the vantage point of the global elite, not just
the political assassinations, but the bigger picture in what the
overall plan is, again from the vantage point of the
books that they write. Of course, one of the key
texts that you've heard me talk about, that I heard
Alex talk about many years ago is Bill Clinton's mentor
at Georgetown, and that's Tragi and Hope.
Speaker 1: Some years back I did.
Speaker 3: Oh, actually, it's almost a decade on now, so it's
a ten year anniversary almost of reading through Tragy and
Hope and lecturing through the entire thing in about sixteen
hours worth of talks. You find that on my YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: There's a whole playlist on the front of the channel.
Speaker 3: But it's good to go back and review this and
tie it into other texts as well. We're going to
talk about the clergy Plan, We're going to talk about
the banking system that was set up according to quickly
and how this actually does tie into high profile political assassinations.
And this of course is probably the most important high
profile assassination since the late sixties with RFK and then
of course JFK and others as well well, and then there's,
you know, appendix, books that I think fill in the
gap since Tragy and Hope and angle American establishment, like
Joan Rotiu's book, which does get into the power structure
and the faction of Israel Zionism, all of that, that
kind of is left off because Quickly was writing in
the midst of the Cold War. This book was printed
in the nineteen sixties. But it's a very valuable insight.
And every time I talk about this book, I have
to always explain I don't because people just are dombin
and they don't read books anymore, that I am not
saying that it's true because Quickly says it. I am
not saying that he's a good man. He is an
apologist for the establishment perspective.
Speaker 1: And that's why the books are so valuable.
Speaker 3: Much like when we lecture through David Rockefeller's writings, or
when we lecture through A.
Speaker 1: She Welles's books, or Bertrand Russell's books, or.
Speaker 3: Any of the elite Jacques Atali, they all lay out
what their plans are, and they don't really have much
shame in saying openly what the plan is.
Speaker 1: So let's go.
Speaker 3: Back to the beginning, because Well actually it's start in
the middle, because there's an overlooks chapter that quickly talks
about describing the banking system and structure that was set
up after Bretton Woods after World War One and World
War Two, that this same power structure set up. It
is a Fiat debt based system and it has a name.
It's called the Power Boss system of the Rothschild banking family.
In fact, this was the network of banking that was
set up, according to Quickly on page five twenty five,
throughout Europe, particularly France and the Bank of England that
becomes the model for the US failed to Reserve bank.
Speaker 1: And the chief economist behind all this.
Speaker 3: Is a guy you might have heard of named John
Maynard Keynes Keynesian economic theory, which is Fabian socialist economic theory.
In fact, you may not I've heard of this, but
if you look at the party that Kure Starmer is
a member of, he's a Fabian socialist. I just sent
an interview with the guy in the UK. It's going
to come out I think today on x and in
some other platforms of a activist kind of in the
vein of Tommy Robinson, maybe a little more on the
right as we discuss the history of the Fabian society,
its members, it's backers, people like Lord Rothchald and others
which are mentioned in these texts as essentially funding this
soft socialism or this soft communism. So it's communism allied
with big capital, and that's the key thing to understand
the powery boss system. And he says the whole system
of the twentieth century was headed by Baron Edward de Rothchald.
The active head, however, was Rene Meyer, manager of the
Rothchild Bank. And he goes on to talk about this network.
This system had control of news agency Pavas, was a
monopolistic news agency in France. He goes on to talk
about all the other structures and networks that they had
set up and that ultimately this dealt with this Feller
reserve Vacht type system. So let's go back then to
the beginning of the text, and he talks about how
the history of Western civilization, particularly after the classical liberal
reformation of the Enlightenment, ended up with a gold standard.
And the problem with the gold center is not that
gold is itself bad or anything like that. It ended
up being the best standard for those times, for that period. Eventually, however,
the printing of and the making of gold notes was centralized,
and it was centralized not in state power, but ultimately
in private power. So although gold was the best possible
standard for having a flourishing society for many centuries, and
we just recently on my channel lectured through Seiphadinamas's famous
book The Bitcoin Standard, most of that book is a
critique of Kynesian economics and actually talking about the gold center. Eventually, however,
the goald center becomes centralized, and it's centralized in an
international ledger system that's modeled around this pariboss system and
the Bank for International Settlements system. But quickly begins the
book talking about that and that this is how the
world is run and controlled by this network.
Speaker 1: And he even.
Speaker 3: Says he even goes so far as to say that
if you look at Britain, when Disraeli, for example, captured
the Suez Canal, he did that at the behest and
at the actions of the Rathchild. He says on page
one thirty three, Israeli purchased with Rathchild money the Suez
Canal for three million, six and eighty thousand pounds. So
are you starting to realize that really the British Empire.
I mean, there's definitely factions, that's not all one sided.
But as this family gains control and as they work
together with their other relatives in the European banking structure,
Carol Quigley notes that they really do take power, they
really do control these countries, and it's not just them obviously.
Eventually there's an alliance between the American industrialist families like
the Rockefellers, the Carnegie, the Morgans. They're all allied together.
But you might not know, or you might not recall,
you might not have read that early on. Quickly says
that the danger that they saw at this time was
two competing powers, the Austro Hungarian Catholic power and Russia
as the Orthodox power, and these two powers need to.
Speaker 1: Be destroyed, and the way to do that was through
World War.
Speaker 3: He doesn't outright say that the Lusitania was a false
flag on pitch two fifty one, but he hints at
it because he says that there was a mysterious a
second explosion that sunk the ship.
Speaker 1: And of course this begins US involvement.
Speaker 3: And we also have the assassination, the high profile assassination
of got Rilo Prinshup of the Sorbian Black Hand, which
was a nationalist secret society intent upon assassinating our Stuke
friends fernand And I'm not saying that he was a hero.
I'm very much pro serb. A lot of my audience
are awesome based serbs. But there can be political machinations
and false flag events and these kinds of things that's
set off in stoke political violence or political sea change,
and usually a high profile assassination is intended to do that.
It might not always work in the favor of those
trying to set it off, and again I don't exactly
know what the real story is. We always know that
when there's a big, high profile assassination. Of course, everyone
will question it nowadays, which is a good thing because
they used to not question these things.
Speaker 1: They just accepted the CIA's creation of.
Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory out of the JFK assassination as a dogma
that you must accept. If you dare to question it,
you're a bad person. And we know that through the
JFK documents that did come out. Much of them were
censored and blacked out, of course, but we did see
some inklings that through James Jesus Engleton. He was definitely
providing a lot of this information and info to Israel.
So there is an Israeli involvement without question, especially through
the Israeli file. James Jesus Engleton Angleton explicitly is said
in the documents to be passing secrets to Israel. There's
the Demona program, which was a big part of this.
Perhaps JFK seemed to be opposed to that, and so
there was a motive there, at least in terms of
opposition on the part of Israel to the Kennedys. We
don't know if exactly that's why it went down. There
were other players of all as well. There's the mafia.
There's also the Jewish mafia. There's also Cuban exiles. Many
of these networks and figures seem to play a key
role at some degree in what happened with JFK. But
to go back to the issue of World War One
and the banking elites and Gavrielo Princhep and the Black
Hand and these secret societies and whatnot. Again, this is
par for the course. I'm not I'm not saying that Charlie.
I think Charlie Kirk was a righteous man who died
for a wicked cause. I was gou be for it
for at the hand of wicked people. So I'm not
demoting or denigrating the power and the value of it,
but I'm noting that in history this happens pretty frequently.
And somebody was saying, oh, this is America as a
history of Every nation has a history of violence when
it comes to political elites, political assassinations. There was just
a assassination of the Japanese politician Shinzo Abe not too
long ago. There was Ben Azerbuto being assassinated some years back.
Political assassinations happen everywhere all over the world. If you
read history, and if you read geopolitical history, this is
normal in the big picture. Again, I'm not saying it's good,
it's terrible, it's a tragedy, but this happens. And the
reason I say that is usually when this happens, it
is for some bigger power players purpose.
Speaker 1: We don't know exactly who was involved.
Speaker 3: I'm aware of all the data about Charlie Kirk reportedly
refusing millions of dollars from Israeli donors and whatnot.
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with all of this.
Speaker 3: We don't know exactly if that's any proof that that's
who was involved. It could be. Again we're looking at
possible motives. Is there a possible other shooter as possible.
But the other thing, if you go back to nine
to eleven, a lot of times people get lost in
the detail. I'm not saying people can't investigate the detail,
but people get lost in the details. And if you're
the big picture and who actually had motives, get the
PENAC documents. They forget Brazinski's Grand Chess Board, which talked
about these types of things ahead of time, and those
are I think the big things to keep in mind
rather than getting sort of lost in analyzing you know,
every little detail, every little AI clip that pops up
on Twitter, and you know with AI, it's going to
get harder and harder to analyze these events with manipulation
of the imagery. So what I can say is that
zooming out, we know that there is a power structure
in the West. There is an Israeli faction to it.
There is a growing technocratic, leftist insane faction.
Speaker 1: So there's these different factions and.
Speaker 3: They're all working towards a similar type of agenda of
a one world government with some type of centralized religious
and state power that can then dictate.
Speaker 1: Life and death.
Speaker 3: So whether you're a rabbinical minded person who believes that
the Talmud teaches that everyone else is cattle and that
you should, you know, subjugate them, or whether you're George
Bernard Shaw and you believe that the technocratic elite are
superior and everybody must come to you, as George Bernard
Shaw the socialist, to decide whether or not they get
deliver or not. That's actual quote he says, in the technocracy,
you will come to us to convince us why we
should let you live and whether you are advantageous to
the state.
Speaker 1: If you're in nineteen.
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he's talking about, is people like Shaw and Ingsock is
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Speaker 3: We're talking about the history of high profile assassinations in
the last century, and that the unfortunate event with Charlie
Kirk is probably the most high profile ones since the
late sixties. And what place do these events play in
the bigger picture. I think the intention again, judging by
what we do know in regard to this being the
trans shooter and all that, as far as we know
so far, that seems to back up the idea that
the left believes perhaps that this would be a catalyst
for kicking off or triggering more radical social violence from
their perspective, from their side, and Alex is absolutely right.
When you get out in the wild, when you go
to political conventions, when you see people out there protesting whatever,
you really will encounter these sort of demonically possessed leftists.
They do exist. They're out there and they're unhinged. And
you know, there's all these groups that we've discussed when
we interviewed BX. Even here on the fourth hour of
the Augs shown show the seven six for the CAMM groups,
the Satanic online trans groups, these networks, these are also real.
You even had cash Betel mention these, I think in
one of his discussions before Congress. So you know, the
FBI is even aware of these things. And again, who
exactly is running all these things and provoking these things,
It's unclear, but that's definitely a pool from which one
could easily draw unstable types of patsies if that is
the case. I think back to the World War two
events and we have the famous Reichstag event where the
Reichstag is burned down and it's blamed on the slow boy,
the retarded individual that was supposed to be a communist.
I'm not pro communist at all. Again, this whole lecture
is against socialism. But again, this is a a very
common tactic in politics, not just a false flag, but
high profile assassinations are common. Even in the case of
you know, Hitler, there was Operation Valkyrie right with the
account what was the name Stelfenberg. So this happens all
the time again in politics, high profile geopolitical stuff, and
it's not difficult to find idealize or indoctrinated, you know,
over the ideological individuals who are willing to do these
kinds of actions that they think, because they're usually not
very smart, they think is going to trigger some kind
of world changing events. So that usually it's a person
with a kind of delusion that believes that their action
will magically change the world or will trigger some you know,
see change, some big revolution.
Speaker 1: But as I said, I think that in this case.
Speaker 3: It's actually working more so on the part of waking
people up to the reality of how vicious and radicalized
the left has become.
Speaker 1: And that was not a wise move.
Speaker 3: If that's that was the intention, was to trigger copycats
on the part of the left, that's not going to work.
This has definitely made people, I think, awake even more
so to how radical the left actually is, and people
on our side of things, Alex and others, we've actually
been saying, I mean, what people are waking up to,
we should have woken up to this ten fifteen years ago.
You're talking about people who were willing to not just
get you fired or canceled or whatever. But I mean
they were hitting people with bike locks at Gavin mcinnis's
MAGA stuff ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I mean they were.
Speaker 3: Violent ten years ago. So they're not going to stop
being violent. You're not going to reason what demonic possessed
people like. They've already surrendered the use of their reason.
Speaker 1: That's why we.
Speaker 3: Talked about last time those who are sons of blial right,
they're wicked, worthless persons, as the Old Testament says.
Speaker 1: Now they could still be saved.
Speaker 3: But the more wicked you get, the more vile you get,
the less likely you are to repent. And usually it
takes some kind of serious type of event for a
person that advanced in wickedness to actually repent again. We
don't know the ways of grace and so forth. But
that's why the death penalty was always there in Western
civilization was there was a recognition of the reality of
not just evil but excessively evil and vile people. They're
a danger to themselves and to society, and that's why
there was a much broader use of the death penalty. Again,
it's in Romans thirteen. I'm not saying we worship the state.
I'm just saying that the death penalty is very clearly
elucidated there, and most people don't know that. The Church fathers,
and throughout the history of Christian civilization, most Christian countries, nations,
kings had the death penalty, especially for vile and heinous actions.
Speaker 1: And it's not just a deterrent, it's.
Speaker 3: Also an inducement that those people will that's the last
medicine that that kind of a person could have to induce.
Repentance is something that's severe. And that's why again, even
if you haven't read the Book of Genesis, I mean,
Jesus is the one speaking to Noah, right, Jesus is
the god of the Old Testament. Jesus is the one
that gave the death penalty to Noah. Maybe you've forgotten Genesis,
but if you believe the Book of Genesis, then that's
the revelation that we have.
Speaker 1: So it's not antithetical to what Jesus teaches.
Speaker 3: Jesus is the one that taught Paul in Romans thirteen
that the state has the right of the sword for
Timothy one Paul talks about the state has this authority to.
Speaker 1: Deter evil doers.
Speaker 3: So it's not an orthodox Christian or a historic Christian
position to think in these radical, sort of Anabaptist types
of views.
Speaker 1: That's what we talked about last time.
Speaker 3: But to get back to the twentieth century, when we
look at the survey of the political landscape and the
type of world that the elites want to bring in.
This mentioned multiple times in the text. This is not
a competing story or narrative to what the Zionist vision
of the world is. In other words, if we look
at what Moses Hes talks about as one of the
key founders of modern political Zionism, he talks about the
fact that he has this idea that he and others
that the free Masonic lodges will be the means by
which the world's religions will be brought into a single cult,
and this single cult will eventually work at the behest
of fostering a single religious center in Jerusalem. So it's
almost like the world religions will continue sort of being
pseudo religions or covers or fronts, but they'll really be
working at the behest of some supra relig and controlling
things in Jerusalem. He then goes on to talk about
the fact that in his day, this is in the
eighteen sixties, he says he's already met with the Rothschilds
who intend to eventually purchase the Holy Land and return
it to Jewish ownership and Jewish power to bring about
the advent.
Speaker 1: Of the Marchiach the Messiah, that is for the Jews.
Speaker 3: So this isn't me, this isn't a anti Semitic conspiracy theorist.
This is a very famous book written by Moseses. It's
called The Revival of Israel, Rome and Jerusalem. And it
was written not after nineteen seventeen the Balfour Decoration, not
after nineteen forty eight. It was written in eighteen sixty two. Okay,
So it's time to stop being ignorant and stupid and
unaware of the actual history and what people themselves write about.
Speaker 1: In fact, he says.
Speaker 3: That the world religion that's coming is a world religion
of socialism. He says it's dialectics and the movement of
eternal matter. And he says in his mind that Jews
will save the world through worshiping the Jewish race and
the Jewish dialectical materials to religion. Now, I'm not saying
that's the case. He says that the god of this
religion is a relativistic, subjectivistic, pantheistic deity. And he says,
if you want to understand my theology, it's Hegel and Spinoza.
I'm not saying that every Jew believes that, or that
every Jewish a is a atheist zionistic Spinosa is Jew.
I understand that there's other positions. I'm aware of all that.
I'm just pointing out that one of the most important
founders of political Zionism himself says that in his book.
Now is that antithetical to what I read.
Speaker 1: In the Fabiance?
Speaker 3: Socialists like George Bernard Shaw or Sydney Webb or David
Rockefeller himself a almost Fabian socialist. Now it's the same
type of ideology.
Speaker 1: There might be a.
Speaker 3: Little bit of a twist over here that oh no,
it's going to be Spinoza, Hegel, Karl Marx, dialectical socialist materialism,
that is the world religion.
Speaker 1: That we all worship.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's going to be the super state itself.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So, in other words, if you read Brave New World,
it's not empathetical to what you just read there. It's
essentially the same overall plan. And you know, I've said
this forever, So I don't know why people get hung
up on, oh, you won't talk about this, you won't
talk about that. I mean, we're literally talking about the
VIAS system right here. Quickly has entire chapters talking about
the bank for a national settlement system is the global
Federal Reserve, and that's pages three twenty four and three
twenty five in his Magisterial Tragedy. Now maybe you say
I don't have time to read these giant, boring books.
I don't blame you. That's why I did your homework
for you. I actually went and read this extremely boring text.
It's not even as boring as other texts. I mean,
it's actually readable in a sense, like there's a lot
of fascinating history and it so if your a history
buff you could make your way through it.
Speaker 1: But I mean it is.
Speaker 3: It's thirteen hundred pages, and no one else has done this, Okay, Now,
shout out.
Speaker 1: To Richard Grove.
Speaker 3: I mean, he talks about the book a lot, so
he's probably the closest to what we do in terms
of this.
Speaker 1: Type of approach.
Speaker 3: But there's literally no one else out there has lectured
through this text in all thirteen hundred pages. I went,
I did it for you ten years ago. Almost nobody
out there has actually listened to those lectures, at least
as far as I could tell. I know, Alex was
way earlier than me in terms of being familiar with
this stuff, but this book literally tells you everything. I mean,
the entire twentieth century from the vantage point of the
global elite. It tells you all of it, and when
you see it from their perspective, you begin to say, oh,
now I understand, and why there is a pirate Boss
Rothschild system.
Speaker 1: That is the banking system of the whole world.
Speaker 3: That's the bis ft, a reserve for the whole Oh,
I understand why the New Deal was a socialist fabian
attack on America. That wasn't FDR being a good guy
saving everybody. Was actually a banker scam. The New Deal
is a banker scamp pages five thirty four and five
thirty five. Now, again, Quigley is not a good man.
He's a defender of this. He says, this is the
best hope that we have to end world wars. Is
global democratic monopoly capitalism is essentially what he says.
Speaker 1: But I want to take issue again.
Speaker 3: I know Alex is a big proponent of being a
classical liberal, but quickly does say that classical liberalism was
essentially the economic theory of the banking elite. That is
the perspective that they had at that time, and that's
what allowed for the gold Stander, which was good for
that time. But once the elite concentrate all the control
of the gold and they print the gold notes. Just
going back to a gold center is not going to do.
If the Queen of England and Lord Rothshaw controlled the gold.
Speaker 1: Then what's the point of a gold center.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not the hard to figure out, right,
But in principle, yes, the gold standard was way better
than the other stuff. That's what we saw in the
Seipho Deine book that we lectured through. But now we're
talking about a global system of a dollar backed gold,
a gold backed dollar that then removes itself from gold
in nineteen seventy one, and now it becomes FIA, and
now we're in this disaster of money printing, black hole,
spiraling debt which can't be solved. Even Elon in a
recent clip admitted that if you understand that we can't
even pay the interest on this debt, and by the way,
who's it too. What's to the people I'm talking about
is to the international private banking elite. That's where all
the debt is owed. It can never be paid back.
And what happens is there's a boom bus cycle. And
quickly talks about this boom bus cycle in the FDR chapters,
and he says that the purpose of the boom bus
cycle he kind of hints it this. He doesn't explicitly say,
but it says basically, it seems to be to put
the future generations into debt. So you have a boom
that happens, there's a bubble, the bubble pops, there's a
massive amount of debt that can't be paid, and then
the banking league come in and say, we will bail
you out this decade, but you're going to owe us
a giant bunch of debt in the next decade. So
it's putting the future generations into debt in a seemingly
structured boom bus cycle. How controlled it is is up
for debate, But it seems like they already figured out
a long time ago that you could gain the boom
bus cycle system and not just benefit from it in
a monetary way because they print them money.
Speaker 1: They don't need the Fiat dollars.
Speaker 3: The Fiat dollars are a tool to gain actual assets.
Speaker 1: So laise fair.
Speaker 3: Liberal economic theory, according to Quigley, was the older strategy
of the power elite, the banking elite that has now
caved to what he talks about on pages five to
fifty and five to fifty one the third wave system.
Now again, he was writing this back decades ago, and
he was the mentor to Bill Clinton. And Bill Clinton
and Tony Blair had a third wave view of combining
capitalism with socialism out of the dialectic perhaps even of
the Cold War. What's the dialectical synthesis that we can
get out of Eastern communism and Western capitalism. Oh well,
it turns out page five fifty two to fifty three,
it's large scale state technocracy for every state.
Speaker 1: China is a perfect example of this. Right, and then the.
Speaker 3: Ends that chapter, I'm saying, well, what's the key issue
that the global technocratic government will have to deal with?
Page five fifty four to fifty five over population. So again,
don't be stupid. I'm not saying quickly, is a good
person exposing the conspiracy?
Speaker 1: No, he's a defender of this. Is he's Bill Clinton's mentor.
Speaker 3: Uh So, when we talk about the liberal world order,
he says, the liberal world order, Neoliberalism is an economic theory.
It's neoliberal is economics. That is Laise Fair, classical, that
is classical liberalism, rejecting the classical Christian worldview of firewalls,
nation states, boundaries, and even things like tariffs. Tariffs were
an old strategy that even the kings used to do
to keep from cheap labor coming in and destroying the
people in your kingdom because they can price gouge and
do the labor for much cheaper because they were very poor,
they would do it for half price. And so the
cobbler who charges two gold coins right would be put
out of business because the Asian cobbler who comes in
does it for one gold coin.
Speaker 1: It's right.
Speaker 3: So having immigration control and having tariffs and blocks on
these kinds that was to protect the people. Liiz fair
liberal economic theory which comes out of people like Locke
and Ricardo and Adam Smith and all these kinds of characters.
And I'm not saying that they're wrong in every point
that they had, but part of the problem was that
they are part of the revolutionary ethos, and quickly explicitly
says the French Revolution was funded by Protestant and Jewish
banking elites.
Speaker 1: Why why would they fund this?
Speaker 3: Because they wanted to remove the existing power structure of
thrown and altar, particularly in the in this case France,
the French Revolutions funded by Protestants, Swiss and Jewish banking
houses to change the landscape of France to what to
the French revolutionary atheistic, secular government, removing God from society.
Speaker 1: Again, I've had multiple grade.
Speaker 3: Classes on French Revolution taught by guys who actually weren't
even liberal. I had the one conservative professor had was
teaching French revolutionary grad and undergrad classes, and so we
went really deep into the way, deeper than I ever
even wanted to go into the history of the French Revolution.
And you have a right wing and left ring of
the French revolutionary provisional government, the Jacobins and the Grondins.
The Grondins were also revolutionary, and I'm not saying that
they weren't good in some aspects. The Founding Fathers very
much influenced by the Girondins. A lot of good things,
a lot of good principles. But there is still this
free Masonic Enlightenment deistic idea coming out of the Enlightenment,
coming out of the scientific Revolution, that you can have
world governance that's positive and will work through free trade
and economic liberalism.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that makes any sense. So that's
my main critique.
Speaker 3: If you read, for example, in Manual CONTs Enlightenment essay
on free trade and global government, he says, oh, if
we just have everybody having free exchange, then we won't
have world wars anymore. It's just so naive, as if
world wars are just all about economic theory and not
about human avarice and wickedness. It's a false analysis, it's
a false anthropology. It doesn't take into account that, well,
human beings don't just act on the basis of economic choices.
They also act on the basis of irrational evil motivations
and decisions.
Speaker 1: Right, So, Enlightenment.
Speaker 3: Economic and anthropological theory is based on man not being fallen.
It's based on a Pelagian view of man as a
interchangeable economic unit that is a blank slate. Well guess what, Ever,
since the last one hundred years or so of genetic
theory and a lot of prominent famous geneticists, we know
now that the Enlightenment theory that man's.
Speaker 1: A tabula ross is false.
Speaker 3: You are actually imprinted with characteristics from your parents and
from genetic ancestor memories. Well, that means then that you're
not a blank slate when you're born, and that means
that you don't just imprint on people the external stimuli.
They actually have an internal component to them that's already
part of them. So the Enlightenment anthropology is just not true.
Even the Darwinian people who I disagree with, have shown
and don't believe this Enlightenment tabula ross of you anymore. Otherwise,
I mean, they didn't have genetics back then. That's the point.
So if genetics is true, then we know that the
Enlightenment tabular rossoview is false. Well, guess what the Enlightenment
tabular rosso view is? What underlies all of the Enlightenment
theorists about world government and economics, And yes, they believed
in world government. Emmanuel Kant has an entire essay on
world government the New World Order, which he says will
be a utopian, free exchange, free trade world order. Von
Hayek and the appendix to Rhad to Serfdim says the
exact same thing. He says, we'll have world government and
an international world policing body to worship free trade.
Speaker 1: Basically, I mean I'm joking, which is worship.
Speaker 3: He says that we'll get world peace through this is
just so naive, and it's just so silly to think that,
especially after we see all of these demonic Antifa people.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the end.
Speaker 3: Result of a century centuries of Enlightenment. Liberalism is just
classical liberalism leads you to nihilism because there's nothing to
ground it in other than what natural law, natural rights,
natural ethics. Well, when you look at nature, you see
predators in prey. So without the theological basis, it's just
power struggles. It's just Nietzschean dominance. It's just predator and pray.
If it's just predator and pray, then there's nothing wrong
with what the insane Antifa people do. Or there is
a God, there is truth, there is a church, there
is a right and wrong, and we're not born as
Enlightenment tabula rosso blank slates. We have souls. So you
understand that, like right right from the outset, if you
believe in the fall and that man fel, that's going
to affect the rest of your anthropology. You're not going
to have unrealistic expectations about Oh well, I guess if
we can just like there was a rapper who you know,
was strangling a white girl on one of his rap
videos in Europe, and it was a symbolic a doll
that they're supposed to be looking like a realistic white
girl doll.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, well, did he not read the federalist papers?
Speaker 3: I mean, do we not accurately instruct him in the
nuances of Jeffersonian theory like constitutional law? Like did he
not take enough constitutional law classes? Or are some people
just savages? Some people are just acting out of demonic, savage,
instinctual behavior. And you're probably not going to convince all
the world to accept constitutional democratic republics. You're probably not
going to get people in Pakistan and Afghanistan to accept
totally quality the sexes and women's rights. It's probably not
going to happen. It's unrealistic. But the enlightenment attitude of
everybody has the same nature because we're all men, yeah,
but we're not all created equal. So even in the
in the you know, Founding Documents, which is all coming
out of John Locke, by the way, men are not
created they're equal before the law, but they're not onto
logically and physically equal, So it's not true. Well, where
did that come from? It comes from John Locke? Where
John locket it. Well, he's an Enlightenment philosophy. Believe in
the tabula rossa blank slate. We're all just these pieces
of putty and we're molded by external similar That is
the Enlightenment perspective.
Speaker 1: Well, guess what genetics has has proven that?
Speaker 3: So why are we still arguing and promoting theories of
anthropology that are like two hundred years old, three hundred
years old, that are outdated and false. We're in a
post genetics world where we know that that's not true. Now,
I'm not saying that we need to have eugenics and
the eugenics super state regime. I'm not saying, and I'm saying, well,
we need is Christianity. We need traditional classical orthodox Christianity.
It's the only thing that has the provisions, the stipulations,
the sacraments, the philosophy of church and state, the ethics,
the rule of law. All those things come out of
Christian tradition. And you're not going to find it in
pagan philosophers and Cristicism and Zionism and Talmudism and atheism
and socialism and all the isms are not going to
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Speaker 3: It's hard to say exactly what's going on in this
it's just too early to figure out exactly what's going on.
But it's not wrong or bad to consider all the
possibilities in different different theories and different possibilities.
Speaker 1: So that's all I could say on that.
Speaker 3: But it does bear a lot of similarities to things
like Gladiol that did include high profile assassinations, mass public shootings,
terror campaigns. Bolognia bombing is an example, so it's.
Speaker 1: Not really an issue. Well, but that was right wing stuff.
Speaker 3: The point is that that's a techn that's a strategy,
that's a structure of terror that can be used, and
we see that, for example with al Qaeda, the techniques
that al Qaeda and its proxies another place is Isis,
et cetera. The techniques and strategy that they've done. They're
not just similar to Hassan Albana, even though he was
a Shiite from a thousand years ago. They're very similar
to the structure of things like Gladio, and in fact,
some of the Gladio people the train, for example, Gladio
cells and people in Turkey. They were then flown to
train people in al Qaeda or in the KLA, the
same entities that would train the KLA in Serbia, the
same entities working with and training the Mujahadin, and as
people from the CIA, people from the US military Pentagon.
I'm not saying that that means that that's who did this.
We don't know, but it just seems to be typically
the case when you study high profile assassinations, especially the
jfk assassination, right, we do get indicators of.
Speaker 1: Bigger players involved.
Speaker 3: To go back to this issue of the state in
a just state, I was reflecting on the principles that
most Christian states had in place, and I want to
be very clear, I'm not calling for an immediate Christian state.
I don't think that's realistic, and again, it wouldn't work
with thirty thousand different churches, sects, groups, and denominations all
trying to have a Christian state. Historically, the only Christian
states that have really lasted and flourished were Orthodox Catholic
states of some fashion, even the Protestant states. Originally the
German princes were the ones that supported, for example, Martin Luther.
Lot of Martin Luther's success, at least in terms of numbers,
was really responsible. The responsible party wasn't Luther's ideas so
much as the German princes that supported him and didn't
like the pope. So there was a lot of geopolitical
motivations behind even Luther's reformation.
Speaker 1: And you'll notice that the Protestant.
Speaker 3: States didn't last very long, right, It was only a
few maybe a few hundred years before they collapsed to
liberalism and to secularism and to the Masonic revolutions.
Speaker 1: And they were absolutely Masonic. Made a mistike about it.
Speaker 3: All the revolutions to get rid of thrown an altar
were free Masonic across the board.
Speaker 1: Really, I don't think you.
Speaker 3: Can have a just society without some basic Christian principles.
It's not the job of an Orthodoxtrician or of the
church to start with's trying to convert the state and
make some sort of top down political thing.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to get a Byzantine emperor
next year.
Speaker 1: If we can convert jd Vance. That's kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Rather, what happens is if you look at the Roman
Empire as an example, let's talk about three undred years
to convert the Roman Empire before we began to see
the emergence of Christian kings, states and rulers. That's possible.
We don't know where history is going. It might be
the end of the world. We don't know, but we
do have a duty to try to speak to all
areas of life in the way that it should be governed.
And the teaching of traditional Christianity, even if you're a
Roman Catholic, even if you're a Latin Roman Catholic, has
always been that there needs to be a Christian principled state.
Speaker 1: That's just the facts.
Speaker 3: So you can hate that, you can disagree with that,
you can believe whatever you want. But what I'm trying
to explain is that if you don't believe that, then
what you get is you don't get a Protestant state,
you get a secular state. And the secular state ends
up being the God state. The government bears Alex Jones,
who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than
any of the networks the biggest megaphone in the country.
A Deep State hates Alex Jones with a vengeance.
Speaker 1: Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the fourth hour of the Alex Jones
from your guest host and Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis.
I've been reflecting quite a bit on the events of
the last week, as I'm sure everybody is, and really
trying to put it in the big picture.
Speaker 1: Not many people are giving the big picture, so that's
what I'd like to do.
Speaker 3: We did this on my YouTube channel the past couple
of days, trying to zoom out, and as Harrison noted
early on in the show, today, this is probably the
most high profile assassination since the late sixties, if we
don't count the investigation into the jonestown, and so these
types of high profile events are necessary to investigate, but
also necessary to place within the bigger picture. Some of
the basics that I'm sure everybody's kind of come to
the same conclusions about is that this is perhaps a
pivot point. This is a change in the direction that
I think a lot of people are going to wake
up to see the ineptitude of coxservatism and con inc
and their inability to deal with and to be up
to par with where we actually are in the culture war.
We're way past the time of thinking that you're going
to educate adiq illegal immigrants on principles of constitutional law
and the federalist papers.
Speaker 1: They don't care about that.
Speaker 3: We are essentially being invaded with a kind of foreign force.
You could say, then, I'm beginning more and more to
think is actually as Alex has known it for many years.
I don't I don't doubt that there is a long
term plan for the collapsing of the country in a
civil war. But we're beginning, I think, to see the
architecture of that mechanism of collapse.
Speaker 1: How would they actually do that. It's not just the left,
because you need.
Speaker 3: A complicit, emasculated, fake right wing and controlled opposition to
really aid in that collapse and that furthering of this
invasion force, so to speak. That doesn't mean that everybody
involved in being an illegal immigrant as some conscious warrior.
We're speaking of generalities here, As somebody noted recently, which
I thought was a really perceptive comment.
Speaker 1: Anytime you start to talk about.
Speaker 3: Generalities, there's always some midwa that has to chime in
with the exception to the rule, as if that disproves
the rule.
Speaker 1: So midwits, that's another big problem.
Speaker 3: In this country is dealing with a massive uneducated population
that is essentially being being gradually turned into a giant
zombie force. That's the people that you see cheering and
likening this too, you know, some sort of revolutionary event
that they see as a trigger for perhaps copycat events,
and I don't doubt that that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I do agree with the comment that Vance said.
Speaker 3: I appreciate people beginning to say, hey, it's not really
these local ground, organic leftists on the street. This is
actually vast inngo, think tank foundation networks. Alex pointed out
a few months ago that there's around a million NGOs
out there and ninety five percent of them are left wing.
Speaker 1: So this is speaking globally.
Speaker 3: This is the real locus of influence and power, not
even the media, not even the politicians that come and go.
The real locus of power is the networks of think tanks,
inngos and foundations. So I appreciate Vance saying and acknowledging
that and pointing out that the left wing ones are
going to have to be rooted out, but probably easier
said than done. We know that, for example, the Soros
Foundation a few years ago, according to New York Times,
became the biggest most influential foundation in the world, surpassing
even in the Ford Foundation, and I would assume the
Rockefeller Foundation as well. So all of these NGOs think tanks, foundations,
and yes, I'm well aware that Israel has its own
foundations and think tanks and influenced groups.
Speaker 1: I'm very aware of all that.
Speaker 3: They all tend to work together and collude, not necessarily
every single one, but many of them in general. And
the reason for that is that there are techniques and
strategies for taking down nations and empires.
Speaker 1: When I was in the war room.
Speaker 3: The other day with Rob Doo, we had a great
discussion about the history of Byzantium in the history of
the fall of the Roman Empire. Byzantium is the Roman
Empire if you don't know, we think of Old Rome
collapsing in four four ten or whatever, to the barbarians,
to the vandals.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Alex Johns Show.
Speaker 3: I'm your Guysso Jay diy or Jays analysis you can
find me on all the social media's under my name.
I was thinking about the course of the nation and
the invasion force, weapons of mass migration, techniques and strategies
that have been used. That's what we were discussing, and
how that ties into the left and so forth, and
really trying to get people to pay attention to the
fact that it's not the leftists on the ground. Those
are sort of foot soldier minions. It really is a
network of NGO's think tanks and foundations, and that's really
been called out and noticed by a lot of people.
But people just seem to always get deflected back into
the political sphere. The political sphere matters, it has a
degree of power and influence for sure, but the politicians
come and go, but nobody knows and pays attentions to
pays attention to who's running these think tanks and foundations,
although it is becoming more and more known. But how
do nations and empires fall? What are the means and
the methods that bring them down? A lot of philosophers
and geopolitical thinkers and historians have.
Speaker 1: Discussed this for many many years.
Speaker 3: You have all the Old Testament profits, for example, you
have people like Osbald Spangler who wrote about the Decline
of the West, and he identified certain patterns that matched
up with ancient civilizations and empires and the patterns that
they also experienced as they went through cycles of growth,
flourishing and then peaking and then the death phase. And
in many of these situations, the death and collapse phase
centered around the surrendering of the power structure to those
that were the working class or the slave class in
the case of ancient empires, and how those classes eventually,
because of the decadence of those in power and those ruling,
how they eventually took over.
Speaker 1: And then get a collapse.
Speaker 3: And there's actual strategies, techniques, patterns that are identifiable. Again,
we were talking about Rome, same with Byzantium, and it's
not just Spangler, even Austrian economic theorists. We just lectured
through Seiphodine Almus's book The Bigcoin Standard on my channel
the other day, and we noticed that he also picked
out certain patterns of collapse.
Speaker 1: And those patterns.
Speaker 3: Include decadence amongst the political class or amongst the culture
bearing class, and that decadence then sort of filtering down
to the rest of population when you get a wealthy
oligarchical elite that promotes degeneracy, leftism, socialism and all that
almost out of a kind of a necessity of death
spiral that they've adopted when they adopt these.
Speaker 1: Deadly ideologies. I guess we could say, and we're just
say the death cult.
Speaker 3: We find that a lot of these parallels existed in
ancient empires. Jamie has been reading through some books that
deal with the history of Mesopotamian empires, the history of Egypt,
these kinds of countries, and what we find these empires,
excuse me, what we find is that they would begin
to adopt the same types of practices of radical castration
and transgender groups.
Speaker 1: Temple prostitutes in fact, had.
Speaker 3: A guild and a cult in many of these ancient
empires that operated in exactly the same way, and they
could actually be sort of radical, terrorizing factions. If you
don't believe it, you can look into this as academic research,
not conspiracy research. And I think Jamie will come on
and we'll talk about that in the near future. If
we look at the Old Testament as another case study,
in the historical books, we find a lot of Game
of Throne style intrigues of political conspiracies, assassinations, all kinds
of things.
Speaker 1: That aren't really new.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean to downplay I think that in
many ways, you know, He's Charlie Kirk stood for what
was righteous, what was virtue, what was good, and so
that death definitely symbolizes an attack on the right and
the good by the demonic, and in fact, that's exactly
what you see in the historical books when you read
the books of the Kings, the books of Samuel, Chronicles,
et cetera. What we find is that there's an identification
of these people who engage in these kinds of plots
against church and state, and I'm speaking of the ancient
Israeli church and state. Within the nation of Israel, they're
called sons of blil, They're called worthless persons.
Speaker 1: And although it's right that we have an.
Speaker 3: Idea of Christian virtue and mercy and grace, and we
definitely hope for and pray for the repentance of people,
we can't forget that there's also divine justice. There's also
imprecatory prayers all throughout the psalms as well. In the
Orthodox Church, it is historically continued to pray and utilize
those same prayers. In fact, Russian Orthodox prayer books from
about one hundred years ago continued to utilize prayers for
the Christian king and the Christian Emperor to have victory
against the Islamic hordes. The idea that that's Unchristian is
rather a rebuke against today's Kokianity. So if you have
a problem with that, the problem isn't the church two hundred,
three hundred four or five hundred and six undred, seve
hundred eight or nine undred years ago. The problem is
with you. Problem is that you have a false idea
of what Christianity is. Definitely Christianity is first and foremost
the Kingdom of God, which deals with the spiritual life
of the Church. I believe that's the Orthodox Church. That's
the only existing true church. Doesn't mean that there's not
grace for people that aren't aware of that or outside
of that, but that's really the only church that exists
in the first thousand years, and it's the only church
that's going to continue to exist until the end of
the world in the same manner, pattern and structure that
exists in the first thousand years. If we're identical to
that that's a pretty strong argument that we're that church. Now,
that doesn't mean we get to be prideful in parisaical,
because there's grace for everybody. But when it comes to
the notion of the state, many people misunderstand when they
hear about something like Christian nationalism. You see people like
Doug Wilson talking about Christian nationalism, and a lot of
these ideas sound good, but you can't have Christian nationalism
without a church. And in the first thousand years of Christianity,
every nation state that converted and king that converted or
emperor that converted, they weren't a thousand different faiths. They
didn't hold their kingdom together with thousands of different sects.
They needed a faith that was universal and consistent, but
also applicable to the nation state. And behold, if we
look at the Council of Nicea, we see bishops from Alexandria, Egypt,
we see bishops from Antioch in Syria, we see bishops
from Rome coming. So all throughout the imperium, all throughout
the nation states, we find national representative churches coming to
a universal council at Nicia called by the first Christian Emperor,
Saint Constantine. That tradition continues for the next thousand years
in Byzantium until Byzantium falls through internal decay and corruption,
subversives opening the door to the Muslim hoards, bringing down
the borders, and the debasement of the currency through usury
and money clipping. These techniques and strategies are pretty ironclad
and repeatable for taking down a nation. They do seem
to evidence a kind of pattern, but they can also
be weaponized as strategies.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know, there's play books on.
Speaker 3: This, even books by people at Army War College, people
at Cornell University, the CIA ethnographies, They've written tons and
tons of books on these types of techniques and strategies
for weakening and taking down nation states.
Speaker 1: And that can be done and is done by most states.
Speaker 3: So false flag terror assassinations, these are not unique to
American history. They're pretty much throughout history. And I don't
mean to demean this recent event.
Speaker 1: I think this is highly significant. Far from demeaning it.
I think it is a.
Speaker 3: Massive change, and I'm not proud or happy that Charlie
Kirk was taken down. I think it's horrible, but I
do think that the opposition is going to miss They're
going to misunderstand what this is going to do. This
is going to further sift the wheat from the chaff
and put people into harder and harder defined and that's
not always a bad thing. You know, we think of
Jesus as this sort of hippie person. Jesus said I
came to bring a sword. He doesn't mean open political violence.
He means to divide households. He says, I will set
one member of a household against another. I will set
brother against brother, mother against daughter, et cetera. And that's
because truth divides. Boundaries are good, they're not bad. The
idea that Christianity is some sort of pacifist gay religion
is just not true. It is attempted to be co
opted and turned into that by the same ingios thing
tanks and foundations that have funded everything from the Royal
Council churches to the Ecumenist movement to all the open
border stuff that we're talking about. Hence, for example, the
Soros organizations working hand in hand with Catholic charities. And
everybody now knows this. So where is this authentic Christianity. Well,
in the Old Testament, as we pointed out, you have
church and state, but defined roles. It's not proper for
the most part, and the Old sessment, for example, for
Saul to start to offer things at the altar. In fact,
he's rebuked by Samuel when he does that because it's
overstepping the normative boundaries of church and state. Likewise, the
priests don't become kings, right. And when we look at
the history of religion, especially in the West and its
encounter with Eurasia and the East, there's two things that
happened in the eleventh century that are pretty fascinating. We
get amongst Islam, which was always a political religious ideology,
particularly early on in the Quran, it talks about the
Quran being the revelation for the Arab people. The idea
was that the Jews had the Torah and the Talmud
Christians had the Gospels, and early on this was going
to be the revelation of that God to the Arab peoples.
Eventually this evolved though, as you get later on in
the Quran and the stages of the Quran, and that
many orians and analysts talk about where we get a
more militant, organized war lord type of religion. Eventually, in
the eleventh century we get a faction called the Hashashim,
the Order of Assassins, founded by Hassan al Sabah, and
in the mountains of Persia.
Speaker 1: They were a Shiite sect.
Speaker 3: They sort of set up a an Ismaili state that
came to believe that you could really hone and strategize
this policy of assassination. Now there's a lot of debate
about exactly where they're using hashish, where they mind controlling
their people to do these assassinations. There's some fictional legend
aspects to this, and there's again some manner of debate
about it.
Speaker 1: But what seems to be the case is that this
is really.
Speaker 3: The beginning of kind of the study and the inception
of modern state terror. And although Hassan was not originally
a state, he kind of eventually became his own kind
of king. So he developed a sort of state, you
could say, And if I remember, he had a few
palaces out in the desert, and he kind of set
up a stronghold where he could be his own kind
of Islamic state, so to speak. After that period in
Western civilization right actually right around the same time in
the eleventh century in the West, you had an overstepping of
this boundary when the papacy in the eleventh century, specifically
under the Gregorian Papacy under Dictatus Pope.
Speaker 1: And eventually a few hundred years later.
Speaker 3: With when I'm Sanctum, the papacy says that it is
now a geopolitical power that has the right to have
standing armies. And really we've never seen this before when
a bishop I remember the Church starts to have public
war against nation states and standing armies. In fact, in
the Canons of Chalcedon, it's actually forbidden for clergy to
have a state role. That's because if you look at
the symbolism of the Byzantine double headed eagle, it's not Masonic.
This is way before there was any Scottish Rite Masonry
or free Masonic co opting of those symbols. It's a
symbol of church and state with two heads with one body.
And that's the Byzantine model that church and state operate
in what's called symphonia. That's the idea that you find
in the Old Testament between church and state. In the
nation state of Israel, there's the priesthood, the Levites, etc.
The Iaronic priesthood, and then there's the Royal House of David,
and this is a symphonia. They don't overlap. The priest
typically is not really supposed to ever be a king,
and that's because Christ is the fulfillment of these prophecies,
types and symbols. Is the prophet, priest and king comes.
Many Evangelicals and many people after the Reformation adopted the idea,
more particularly after the Radical Reformation, adopted the idea that
God has nothing to do with the state. The state
isn't is a secular institution. With people like Roger Williams,
the famous Baptist, we get the idea that the state
has absolutely nothing to do with God whatsoever. And that's
really the beginning of the idea of the separation of
God from the state. There's always been a degree of
separation of church and state, except for perhaps the Hashashim
or classical Islam, Real Islam, or the papacy in the
Gregorian period or in the Renaissance period. Right outside of
those examples, there's typically been an understanding of a separation
of church and state, and they're supposed to work in tandem,
and they govern in different ways different spheres.
Speaker 1: Right if you think of man as a body and
a soul.
Speaker 3: Well, the state deals with the af fears of the body,
the protect of the nation, warfare, et cetera. The Church
dealing with the affairs of the soul, the spiritual man,
the spiritual side.
Speaker 1: The spiritual is higher.
Speaker 3: In authority when it comes to the ultimate power, but
the Church still has a role of speaking to the state,
and in fact, classically in Christianity. I know this is
going to blow a lot of your minds, but the
Church coronated kings. Up until about the seventeen hundreds, everybody
in the world was under some kind of king for.
Speaker 1: The most part.
Speaker 3: There's a Italian republic, there's an ancient Roman republic, and
a lot of people worship republics, and they worship the
idea of Platonism and Plato's ideal republic. But the people
that really worship Plato's republic are called communists. Do you
know the Soviets were called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Republicanism and the Soviet idea all have their origins in Plato.
So I'm not trying to knock the American constitution because
it has a lot of Christian influence. It has influenced
from Roman common law, it has influenced from Christian Church law,
canon law, and it has influence from everybody from Machiavelli
to ancient Roman writers.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got a lot of influences, and I'm
not knocking it.
Speaker 3: But one of the problems, one of the flaws, is
this idea that we're not going to have a specific deity,
We're going to have a generic deity.
Speaker 1: And that generic.
Speaker 3: Deity is so inculate and so ambiguous and elastic, that
could really be any kind of God you want.
Speaker 1: It could be the deistic deity of the Freemasons. It
could be Hell, it could be Satan.
Speaker 3: If you're a Satanist, that's not going to work for
a Christian nationalist movement. You've got to have a single
type of Christianity. And that might be a hard pill
for people to swallow. It might be a hard message,
but it's time to look into Christianity. It's time to
look at how was Christianity functioning operating for the first
thousand years. Wasn't Mormonism, It wasn't Evangelicalism, or wasn't Calvinism,
wasn't any of these things. It was Orthodox Christianity, kings
and emperor's throne and altar. In the seventeen hundreds, the
Free Masonic movements, funded by both Catholic excuse me, by
Protestant and Jewish banking power. According to Carol Quigley, funded
and fostered a movement to destroy throne and altar throughout
Western civilization and throughout much of the world. This was
called the French Revolution, and it tried to bring about
radical atheism, socialism, communism, Jacobinism, all those things are the
same thing. This movement exceeded pretty much succeeded for the
next couple centuries to remove most of the world's monarchs
and the power of the Church in the social sphere.
And we've heard for so long how bad the Church
was in the Dark Ages, And did you know that
these terms are actually invented by atheists, people like Voltaire,
who hated Christianity. He's the one that came up with
the idea of the Dark Ages, the idea that the
Middle Ages were this dark retrogade time before Hume and
Kant and Lock and these enlightenment goblins who themselves are
kind of enlightenment, just degenerates, especially David hume, Well, these
people decided to enact and bring about a kind of
republic democratic, secular ideology based around constitutional principles. And I'm
not saying constitutions are bad. I understand magna carta, I
understand all that stuff. But the problem is that this
doesn't work on the basis of natural rights theory. Once
natural rights theory is tossed out, because people begin to realize, well,
there's not a specific God. There's really no basis for
the natural law, the natural right. So this leads people
towards the direction of more and more progressive liberalism and nihilism.
While the Sarah from Rose wrote a famous book called
Nihilism Roots of the Revolution. In that book, he tracks
the phases that revolutionary philosophy goes through. It begins as
a kind of enlightenment, universal utopian kind of idea, We're
going to change the world through economics and teaching everybody
the Federal's papers and making everybody in the world constitutional,
democratic republic governments. And of course none of that worked
when you try to import that to Afghanistan or Sub
Saharan Africa.
Speaker 1: So what's the problem.
Speaker 3: Maybe the problem is the enlightenment ideologies themselves. Doesn't mean
everything about the Enlightenment is wrong, but the root assumptions
of the Enlightenment might have serious flaws.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, that might also.
Speaker 3: Mean that there's problems in the American Enlightenment experiment. If
America is a confluence of multiple interests, Enlightenment, deists, Episcopalians, Catholics, Protestants, Congregationalists,
radical reformers, all of these things go into what we
call the ethos of Americanism. Eventually something's going to win
out right Enlightenment, atheism and deism or Christian principles. Well,
America has not gone in the direction of the Christian principles.
In fact, it's been a long continual dissent and slide
away from those types of principles into more and more
generic freedoms and rights.
Speaker 1: And now freedoms and.
Speaker 3: Rights are supposed to be castrating children. I'm a whatever
I want to.
Speaker 1: Say, I am. That's how far we've come.
Speaker 3: But nobody, ever, except for myself, other people on the internet,
Andrew Wilson and others, are beginning to People don't think
about critiquing the idea of rights themselves. What are these rights?
Speaker 1: Where are they? Are they under a microscope.
Speaker 3: Are they as scientifically studied thing if you have the
attitude of empiricism and scientism.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as rights. They don't exist. They
either are.
Speaker 3: Made up, there are social conventions, or they are given
to you, afforded to you by the state, and thus
they can be removed by the state. So the scary
thing that the left doesn't want to realize is maybe
all of these principles require a transcendental foundation, namely a God.
And if that's the case, then all of that worldview collapses.
And as we move into the sort of postmodern America
where the Enlightenment narratives are collapsing, the World War two
narratives and stories are collapsing. Everything we've been told the
last the twentieth century as a whole, It's narrative is
collapsing because it tried to blend basic principles of the
Ten Commandments or natural law or whatever you want to
call it with Enlightenment atheism and oil and water don't mix. Eventually,
one of these ideas, one of these world views, is
going to come to fruition and to dominate. And since
that Enlightenment idea had already assumed and presupposed that the
church should be severed from any relationship with the state
and society as a whole, that we're going to have
a secular state somehow based on natural law. It's only
inevitable that atheism would win out eventually. And after atheism
wins out, as Father Seff from Rose says, you move
from the paradigm of utopian enlightenment principles to nihilism. Eventually,
nihilism and postmodernism are the end result.
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Speaker 1: Now we're talking about history. We're talking about Western civilization.
Speaker 3: We're talking about the development of Enlightenment, secularism and the
end result of the postmodernism in the nihilism that would
come when we severed ourselves from historic Christianity, and that
includes the state. There's a famous Russian philosopher and statesman
named Pabinatziav and he wrote a book about the role
of church and state. And he was writing right around
the time of the assassination of the Czar by the Bolsheviks,
and he pointed out that the message that is always
given by people who want the eradication of any relationship
of church and state, or any anything for God to
do with society in general, is that it's based around freedom. However,
what ends up happening isn't that you actually get freedom.
You actually get the state becoming a new de facto church.
The state then becomes the determiner and the arbiter of
life and death. The state decides all these key issues
without any firewalls or checks or any other competing firewalls
or division of power.
Speaker 1: So to speak.
Speaker 3: Right, and I think the idea behind the American government
structure was, of course divisions of power in as many
ways as possible, and I definitely believe in that kind
of decentralization to a degree. Well, the problem is that
in the radical religion of equalitarianism and egalitarianism that has
been adopted today, it assumes that everybody is an interchangeable
economic unit. If you watch the Sam Hyde Show, the
first episode, Dear Elon was dealing with that. I contributed
to that one and the most recent one. As you
guys have been seeing the clips today also speaks to this,
with this idea that everybody can just be kind of
integrated into some you know, global blob of the same culture,
the same religion, the same whatever, without retaining their unique
distinctive qualities or recognizing disparities.
Speaker 1: It's not wrong or you're not.
Speaker 3: Bad for recognizing things that are real and they're factual.
I went to Jamestown a few weeks ago after speaking
in DC at an event at the Ludwell Conference, and
I'd never been to the museum and visited the you
know Jamestown before, and if I recall, it is a
Rockefeller funded big complex, so I'm not surprised at all
the woke stuff.
Speaker 1: But the majority of.
Speaker 3: The exhibit of the museum is actually really a testament
to the worship of new gods of civic equality and blackness,
which has really nothing to do with people fleeing from
England to try to create the Jamestown colony. It's just weird.
There was a whole apologetic of the place was anti colonialism.
But if you really study history, and I have a
history degree, you'll notice actually from a libtard college, I
was taught history by the most ridiculous libs. It actually
made me, helped make me not live to study history
and understand that we have the idea that Christian nations
and empires were evil. Well, they were not near as
evil as everything else going on. And Christianity helped to
try to temper and to change civilization and brought a
lot of actually civilizing elements to many, many degenerate cultures.
For example, Aztecs, Mayans and others sacrificing tens of thousands
of people on high holy days. I think Catholicism, at
the least Spanish Catholicism in those centuries, maybe not Catholicism now,
but Spanish Catholicism and back in those centuries was way
better than that kind of hideous demonic practice. And now
people are wanting to return to some kind of hideous
demonic type of practice like that.
Speaker 1: That's what we see with.
Speaker 3: The outbursts of these physically disgusting people reflecting what's on
the inside.
Speaker 1: It's not an.
Speaker 3: Infallible rule that the external reflects the interior, but in
many cases and many times it does. For example, one
of the vices is gluttony. If you have a problem
with gluttony, will that will be shown in the exterior
that will be significantly overweight. Please don't be in midwit
and try to correct me about how some people have
viroid problems.
Speaker 1: I'm aware of that.
Speaker 3: I'm speaking in generality, so you don't need to bring
in the exception to the rule to try to sound smart.
Intelligent people should be able to speak in generalities without
having to qualify and define every single term. Now, if
you have a problem with gluttony, then it's probably going
to be reflected in the exterior. We've all seen the
mugshots of people in these radical leftist groups and they.
Speaker 1: Look like demons, they look like goblins.
Speaker 3: Are you surprised that the exterior is reflecting the interior.
We're not gnostics, and so we would absolutely expect that
the interior would be reflected in the exterior. Again, it's
not infallible. You can have a beautiful person who's very
wicked and evil, but in many cases the vices tend
to manifest even in a physical and physiognomy type of way.
It's not accidental, for example, that many leftists and social
revolutionaries in history have been physically ugly, demented and deformed
and outcast individuals. I did interview while back with an
English historian, doctor Ed Dutton, and maybe he's the English,
so I call it.
Speaker 1: I forget the executives degree is.
Speaker 3: But he was pointing out how the history of witchcraft
in Europe evidence is a long history of very hideous,
ugly women being the witches, who then have a resentment
against the rest of society because they are unattractive and
as thus they become kind of parasitical on the society
and they resent it. There is something to that right
that you then see this evidenced, and a lot of
the people on the sort of the ground of the left,
and even amongst the ranks of the left, there's something
about that worldview. Because that person begins to hate humanity,
it's very easy for them to then adopt ideologies of
anything that would call or kill humanity.
Speaker 1: Thus it becomes amenable to recruit.
Speaker 3: People into a death cult, and it's accurate to call
it a death cult. Many of the religions and sex
that we've been talking about end up being kinds of
death cults that want to end humanity when they reach
that nihilism stage of their development. And unfortunately, unfortunately, empires
and nations can also develop in that same way. If
you read the Proverbs, it talks often about nations that
choose justice and righteousness, and nations that choose wickedness and evil,
and the end goals and the end states of those
peoples and nations. But we have to also take into
account that in our era, we don't live in the
Middle Ages, we don't live in a period when we
can actually expect some immediate Christian state.
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of these movements are ripe.
Speaker 3: They're ripe for honey trapping people and for you know,
ideologically misguided young people who oftentimes are the tools and
the pawns of revolutionary movements, whether far right or far left.
Speaker 1: They get used, they get dupes.
Speaker 3: They're the patsies that are used in these kinds of operations.
And that's probably what's going on in the case of
Tyler Robinson, although we don't know all the details yet,
but my guess would be that he was some sort
of radicalized patsy and some sort of probably seven sixty
four Calm Satanist trainee group. Those are the things that
we've interviewed BX about here on the al Stones Show.
My guess would be that that's probably an element of this,
but there might be other individuals or other players, other
actors that will probably become clearer over time that benefited
from this major political, high profile event.
Speaker 1: Assassination and terror then are.
Speaker 3: Meant to neutralize and they're meant to create fear and
see change, sometimes in one direction towards the right, sometimes
wraps in the direction of the left. If we look
at operations that I've covered, like Gladio extensively, I'm well
aware that Gladio was a so called far right or
a right wing move against the Soviets. This was the
idea that you could have so all throughout Europe that
were in place to engage in assassination, black ops, ter bombing,
high profile mass shootings, all those things are part of Gladio.
In the event of the NKVD or Stalin invading Europe,
I don't think it was really plausible that Stalin would
or could invade Europe. But regardless, that's the older Gladio
networks that still exist in the sense of the strategy
and the technique. So what do we see in these
types of mass shootings and event Well, we see a
lot of Patsy's that are very useful in the case
of especially the trans movement, with people who are mentally unstable.
That's a kind of a perfect type of person to
be put in a position to do that. Now, I'm
not even saying that this necessitates that there was some handler.
He could have just been easily provoked or agitated himself
to do this on his own. I think Alex said
a few days ago something that I've been saying for
a long time. We don't really need mk ultra mind
controled assassins per se. I think for a high profile event,
you probably would need some kind of Patsy or some
kind of person in that role. But in general, I
mean people are becoming mk ultra in mass through the
pop culture and through.
Speaker 1: Living every day on the Internet.
Speaker 3: I think the younger you go, the more people have
been raised on the Internet with immediate access to the
most degenerate stuff right away. If this is the recipe
for disaster, I don't know what the answer is exactly
on all of these things, but that's I think where
we are. That's factual in the case of high profile
assassinations and events like this. Again, I interviewed Sammy the Bull,
the most famous living hit man probably out there. He
was John Gotti's number two. I've known multiple podcasts maybe
even eight seven eight podcasts with Sadi the Bull.
Speaker 1: I've talked to him a lot.
Speaker 3: And he made the point that any there will be
an event or a hit like this. He said what
he would have done to arrange a high profile thing
was to have the real people who were the shooters
or the killers, and then the dupe or the patsy
who thought he was involved in some kind of thing
but he was misled and he would take the fall again,
the patsy, the dupe.
Speaker 1: I don't know again if.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what happened here, but my guess would be
that in a high profile event like this, it's very
likely that there would be some larger entity involved. Most
high profile assassinations involve other entities. I don't know if
Israel is involved, it's definitely possible. Israel does have a
long history of high profile political assassinations. Is very well known.
They write books raging about it. You can read Victor
Strowski's books that talk about these kinds of things by
way of deception. But there's other nation states, there's other powers,
there's other entities, there's other groups, other cults, all of
which could have had a.
Speaker 1: Motive, and even individual lone gunman.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it was a long gun I'm just
saying like, we don't know all the details yet. And
I've watched and paid attention to mass shootings and mass
casualty events and high profile events for all the way
back to nine to eleven, and the first thing I've
noticed is that everyone rushes to try to construct.
Speaker 1: The story to make it the opponent.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows this all the way back to decades ago,
and a lot of times we don't really get a
lot of the details until two, three, four weeks later.
But unfortunately then it's already moved out of the news cycle.
And you know, Prasenski even talked about that that they
won't really have to worry about people figuring things out
because the way the news cycle works is is so
immediate and so constant, and people have, you know, rabbit brain.
They don't remember bird brain, they don't remember stuff from
two weeks ago. So it's hard to say exactly what's
going on in this it's just too early to figure
out exactly what's going on.
Speaker 1: But it's not wrong or bad.
Speaker 3: To consider all the possibilities and different different theories and
different possibilities. So that's all I could say on that.
But it does bear a lot of similarities to things
like Gladio that did include high profile assassinations, mass public shootings,
terror campaigns. Bolognia bombing is an example. So it's not
really an issue. Well, but that was right wing stuff.
The point is that that's a technique, that's a strategy,
that's a structure of terror that can be used, and
we see that, for example with al Qaeda. The techniques
that al Qaeda and it's proxies in other places isis,
et cetera. The techniques and strategies that they've done, they're
not just similar to Hassan al but even though he
was a s from a thousand years ago, they're very
similar to the structure of things like Gladio. And in fact,
some of the Gladio people the train for example, Gladio
cells and people in Turkey, they were then flown to
train people in al Qaida or in the KLA. The
same entities that would train the KLA in Serbia, the
same entities working with and training the Mujahadeen, and as
people from the CIA, people from the US military, Pentagon.
I'm not saying that that means that that's who did this.
Speaker 1: We don't know, but.
Speaker 3: It just seems to be typically the case when you
study high profile assassinations, especially the GfK assassination, right, we
do get indicators of bigger players involved. To go back
to this issue of the state in a just state,
I was reflecting on the principles that most Christian states
had in place, and I want to be very clear,
I'm not calling for an immediate Christian state.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's realistic.
Speaker 3: And again, it wouldn't work with thirty thousand different churches, sects, groups,
and denominations all trying to have a Christian state. Historically,
the only Christian states that had really lasted and flourished
were Orthodox Catholic states of some fashion, even the Protestant states. Originally,
the German princes were the ones that supported, for example,
Martin Luther, and a lot of Martin Luther's success, at
least in terms of numbers, was really responsible.
Speaker 1: The responsible party.
Speaker 3: Wasn't Luther's ideas so much as the German princes that
supported him and didn't like the pope. So there was
a lot of geopolitical motivations behind even Luther's Reformation. And
you'll notice that the Protestant state didn't last very long, right,
It was only a few maybe a few hundred years
before they collapsed to liberalism and to secularism and to
the Masonic revolutions.
Speaker 1: And they were absolutely Masonic. Made a mistick about it.
Speaker 3: All the revolutions to get rid of throne and altar
were free Masonic across the board. But speaking of the
Christian state, really, I don't think you can have a
just society without some basic Christian principles. It's not the
job of an Orthodoxtrician or of the church to start
what's trying to convert the state and make some sort
of top down political thing.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to get a Byzantine emperor
next year if we can convert jd vance, that's kind
of ridiculous. Rather, what happens is if you look at
the Roman Empire as an example, lets talk about three
hundred years to convert the Roman Empire before we began
to see the emergence of Christian kings, states and rulers.
That's possible. We don't know where history is going. It
might be the end of the world. We don't know,
but we do have a duty to try to speak
to all areas of life in the way that it
should be governed. And the teaching of traditional Christianity, even
if you're a Roman Catholic, even if you're a Latin
Roman Catholic, has always been that there needs to be
a Christian principled state.
Speaker 1: That's just the facts.
Speaker 3: So you can hate that, you can disagree with that,
you can believe whatever you want.
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to explain is that if you
don't believe that, then what you get is you.
Speaker 3: Don't get a Protestant state, you get a secular state.
And the secular state ends up being the god state.
In a just society, the death penalty, for example, that
is legally exercised with basic Christian principles. For example, if
you look at the Code of Justinian, a Christian law text,
Codex to Justinian, the laws that Saint Justinian put in place,
we're pretty based. They were pretty Christian. But remember that
was the name majority Christian society. So we're not going
to try to have a political revolution and force Christian
laws on the masses of pagan peoples and demonic people
that are not going to submit to any Christian laws.
But it is correct that the idea that Christianity should
have no role in the state or in society in general.
Speaker 1: Is absolutely false.
Speaker 3: That's an Enlightenment presupposition. And anybody that claims that they're
Orthodox and believes that that's almost heretical. There are no
orthodox Christian Saints that are democrats or Americanists or secularists.
Speaker 1: All of them are monarchists.
Speaker 3: In a just society, the death penalty is largely exercised
in a way that is loving. In other words, for
very wicked people. It is just for there to be
the death penalty because those people they're not just a
danger to society, they're a danger to themselves as well.
Speaker 1: And so the death penalty and.
Speaker 3: If you read anybody prior to I don't know, nineteen hundred,
they will speak in this way that it's a great deterrent.
It's also a great determinent deterrent and a inducement to
to repentance. If you know that you are going to
die for, you know, raping people, then you're probably not
going to.
Speaker 1: Go out and rape people.
Speaker 3: But a society that doesn't have those principles and becomes unjust.
You get corrupt and unjust laws, as Ezekiel talks about.
Speaker 1: So there's no.
Speaker 3: Antipathy between justice and love. In fact, you can't have
love without boundaries and justice.
Speaker 1: The two go together.
Speaker 3: A father that loves his children chastises them, as says,
and doesn't let them do everything they want. That's raising
goblins and demons. If you let them do whatever they want.
You have to have boundaries. You don't have to be
a tyrant, but you've got to have boundaries. And wisdom
is the balance there that you can figure out, hopefully
in time as you.
Speaker 1: Progress in age and gain some wisdom. But remember there
is no.
Speaker 3: Antipathy again between the death penalty and that being exercised
against very wicked people. They're not all sins are equal.
All sins are sins, but not all sins are crimes,
and not all crimes are equal. To murder a million
people is far worse than murdering one person. But murder
is murder, and killing is not murder. Not all acts
of killing aren't murder. Paul and rome Is thirteen teaches
very clearly that the emperor, the king, the magistrate has
the sword for the exercising of justice as a punishment
against evildoers, to deter those types of wicked actions. A
sword chops heads off, it puts people to death. And
so the state has that role, and the state has
a duty to God, even if it doesn't accept it.
When Paul wrote that he was writing about a pagan emperor,
right about Nero. Nero didn't care about Christ, didn't care
about God. In fact, he hated Christ. He is Antichrist
in the Book of Revelation, it's Nero. So if Nero
is Antichrist, but he still has a duty and is
still in a providential role, that doesn't mean that because
there's abuse, you get rid of that role. Right, there's abuse.
Fathers abuse their roles as fathers and as husbands. Well,
I guess we got to get rid of fathers because
some of them abuse that role. That's preposterous, This is idiotic.
This is the thinking of the left.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So, no, you can't have a functioning, healthy society without
some kind of state with some kind of authority to
exercise things like the death penalty for certain heinous offenses.
And this is how Western civilization functioned. Byzantheum wouldn't have
been as successful as it was without its religion, its
gold currency, and it's Christian laws. Those things together made
for a healthy society. But remember, the state isn't God.
We don't put state in politics first. As Orthodox Christians,
we put Jesus first. We put the religion first. In fact,
I was listening to some of the minor prophets. I
was listening to Hagi and zeph and Aiah and other
texts from the Old Testament, and God rebukes them for
putting politics first. He says, you worry about your wages,
and you worry about this and that, and you don't
put the house of God first.
Speaker 1: You were lazy about the House of God.
Speaker 3: And so he says, you put your money in your bags,
and the bags have holes, and the money runs out,
and you can't keep up with the inflation. Think the
bags and the money, the bags with holes in the month.
That's referring to the devaluate the valuing of the currency.
He's saying that you can't keep up with the inflation
because of usury, and because the nation is wicked. And
why are they wicked? Because they're putting politics first. They
trust in kings and princes and sons of men, as
the Psalm says, as we listen in every Orthodox liturgy,
trust not in princes and sons of men. God first,
But the state has a duty to God, and if
the state doesn't recognize that duty, then they're out of
order with the divinely appointed order. It's not our job
to go after them or try to get rid of them.
We're not political revolutionaries. But we remind them of the
duty that they have, and if they go out of
that duty, then that's on their conscience and they're going
to have to deal with that and the resurrection at
the judgment. So that's my thoughts for today, and hopefully
that resonates with some of you. Hopefully you think about
what I'm saying and don't just react to what I'm saying.
Take a look at some of the books. You can
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