WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:04.000 The West Tigers Podcast is brought to you by the 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:08.800 West Tigers Podcast Forum. Join the conversation today at wests 3 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:22.760 Tigers podcast dot com dot au. 4 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:28.199 It's the West Tigers Podcast and I believe it's episode 5 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:31.000 four hundred and nineteen. That's what Eddie said on the 6 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:34.479 other pod that the boys recorded, which I think is 7 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:38.600 a really good listen with coach Adell and Gary and Rob. 8 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:42.840 But Steve, we're here where the traditionalists. We're doing the 9 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:47.640 traditional West Tigers podcast and it comes after a win. 10 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:50.880 It's a post victory edition of the West Tigers Podcast, 11 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.200 which I always have to joke I have to look 12 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:54.600 up in the manual as they how to do one 13 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:56.479 of these because we don't get an awful lot of 14 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:01.399 bractice at them. Your one word out of that very 15 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:06.000 slim one point victory over the Titans, Oh, I'm going. 16 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:08.239 To try to be positive about that they win and 17 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.680 just say if my mom would is needed. It was 18 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.200 a victory really really needed. If we'd lost that game 19 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:18.599 to the last place Titans and put ourselves back in 20 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:20.719 contention for the wooden Spoon, I think it would be 21 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:25.079 pretty difficult pill to side that one. So the whole club, 22 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:29.840 the whole fan base, the playing group, everyone needed that victory. 23 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:33.719 I think needed is a very very apt word, and 24 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:35.920 very much I very much agree with you. The club, 25 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:39.519 the coach, the players, the fans needed is the word. 26 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:43.480 I've got a couple. I've got physicality, because we actually 27 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:45.560 had a player out there playing on the left side 28 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:51.000 who delivered really good physicality both in offense and defense 29 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:52.799 and really looked like a first grader, So we'll talk 30 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:56.000 about him shortly. I've got fragile, and that's something that 31 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:58.519 we've spoken about a fair bit, Steve, and I want 32 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:00.640 to talk a little bit about that this edition of 33 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:03.879 the pod, and that is the team still at times 34 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:08.639 looks extraordinarily fragile, where something just go the wind blows, 35 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:12.520 shifts direction, blows in their faces and we go to water. 36 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:15.919 So fragile. But I thought it would be nice to 37 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:18.800 just say fans, Steve. Now, I didn't get the chance 38 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:20.879 to go out to like U, but obviously watched it 39 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.680 on television, and I remember talking about this in one 40 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.800 of the games last year that we won. I was 41 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.719 just so happy to see happy people in West Tiger's 42 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:34.039 colors up on the hill, and I think I don't 43 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:36.879 I can't work out. Let's put it that way. I 44 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:40.319 can't work out why people like us stick around. And 45 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:42.639 you look at that hill and it's chuck full of people, 46 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:44.800 and I'm like, what's wrong with these people? Why do 47 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:47.400 they keep turning up? So a pat on the back 48 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:51.960 for all the fans. It's it's a rusted on fan base, 49 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.000 isn't it. Steve like, if they haven't got rid of 50 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:56.599 us yet, they're probably not going to well. 51 00:02:56.680 --> 00:03:01.879 I heard it. I heard a great description of the 52 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:05.280 game on the Weekend by Dan Ganain on three sixty 53 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:09.919 earlier tonight, and he said there were fourteen thousand screaming 54 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:13.199 West Tiger supporters out there, and Mate, I did not 55 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:18.199 see normally when Leichhart's packed, it's packed with Tiger supporters, 56 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:21.360 but there's a good a good spattering, if not more 57 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:24.120 than a good spatter of opposition supporters. I did not 58 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:29.960 see one Titans jersey all day. It was fourteen thousand toes. 59 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:34.159 But dan Ganain said they went through seventy nine minutes 60 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.479 of frustration, but they're going to go home. Remember the 61 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:40.439 one minute it was outstanding, And I thought that's a 62 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:42.840 perfect description of the afternoon. 63 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:46.919 Really, absolutely a little bit of Lighthart Magic. I guess 64 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:50.039 that leads me into a question that just come to mind. 65 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.039 And we've spoken a little bit about the hard times 66 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:57.560 alienating people and you know, potentially losing a generation of fans. 67 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.800 But I suppose if you play Devil's At in a way, 68 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:05.199 it's also kind of brought us together in a kind 69 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:07.400 of way. You know, maybe it's sort of a shared 70 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:10.719 trauma response or or something like that. But in a way, 71 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.960 I would suggest that the fan base has been you know, 72 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:17.959 gaut for one of a better term, galvanised by the 73 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:22.240 difficult times where we've been through this together. So you know, 74 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:23.439 maybe there is hope. 75 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:27.120 We've said it so many times. We are a huge 76 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:31.800 brand and there are literally thousands and thousands and thousands 77 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.720 of West Tigers supporters out there or people that can 78 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:41.120 somehow find a link between themselves and the West Tiger's brand. 79 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.079 And so when the opportunity comes to go to an 80 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:49.439 iconic venue like Oval, we tend to pack it out. 81 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.199 When we start to play recent football, we tend to 82 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:56.920 pack out, you know, our other grounds as well. People 83 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:59.480 want to come and follow the West Tigers. There's something 84 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:02.839 about getting behind the Tigers. I don't know what it is. 85 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:07.519 There's a bit of magic in it. Really. It's incredibly 86 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.639 frustrated that it's been so negative for so long, that 87 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:14.759 we've been losing for so long. But when there are 88 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.439 green shoots appearing, the crowds are there, you know, and 89 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:22.360 they were there then in numbers just on fourteen thousand 90 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.160 that are packed like over and it's just a sight 91 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:28.199 to behold them. And despite the crumby toilets and the 92 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.600 line up, and if you want to have a winge, 93 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.319 you can have a winge. But there's just no place 94 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.279 like it. There really isn't Oh. I went to Alliance 95 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:38.160 the other week against the Roosters and there was twenty 96 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:42.399 five thousand there and it's a lovely place to go 97 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:46.079 and watch footy, you know, and apart from the twenty 98 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:51.240 one dollar hand you could become an infamous comment. But 99 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:55.680 it's nothing like being a Leichha, nothing like it. The 100 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:57.720 atmosphere is not a patch on it. 101 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.879 Yeah, and it does raise the question if the West 102 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:05.120 Tigers can have some degree of sustained success. You know, 103 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:08.560 your Campbelltown's and your like arts are going to you 104 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:12.439 could imagine a time where they are just members only 105 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.199 stadiums I mean, we don't know if Campbelltown's going to continue 106 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:17.839 or what form that is, but you could probably see 107 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.079 with Like Art that in a couple of years, if 108 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:23.279 the Tigers are up in the top four, top eight, 109 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:25.920 that it might be a situation where you only have 110 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:29.120 members going Steve, do you think that's a possibility. 111 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:33.839 Yeah, I think so. That happens overseas, so there's no 112 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:37.639 reason it can't happen here. And I just want to 113 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:41.279 raise the question. I just wonder how many games we 114 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:42.920 can end up playing it like can't? And I know 115 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.560 the plan is that they say, you know, four or 116 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:49.560 five is and once if Campbelltown gets the upgrade as well, 117 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:53.199 might maybe a bit more than that. But the moment's 118 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:54.240 looking like four and five. 119 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:59.800 But if the profitability is there, when the renovations are 120 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:03.319 done to Like Art and they've got better corporate facilities 121 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:07.000 and they can get more people into the ground, if 122 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:11.560 the profited building can get up close to matching what 123 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:13.600 to get, you know, what the toderes get when they 124 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:17.720 go to combat, can they consider playing more games at 125 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.160 like Hard Because I'll tell you now, the more games. 126 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:22.839 We play at Like Art, the higher on the ladder 127 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:25.959 will be because we win games at like hard that 128 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:30.720 we won't win elsewhere for sure. And so at what 129 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.680 point do you say, all right, we might get one 130 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:38.279 hundred and fifty grand less at like art than we 131 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:43.879 do combat, but we win three more games and we 132 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:47.680 finish eighth instead of not eleventh, and we play semi 133 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:51.639 final football, and does that make up for that one 134 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:53.839 d and fifty grand? You know, I don't have the 135 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:56.639 answers to that, but it's definitely something to consider, surely. 136 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:58.360 I mean. And the other thing the factor into that 137 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.279 as well, is it does it lose some of it's 138 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.519 magic if you go back to like it was in 139 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:04.519 you know, the beal Main days where we were playing 140 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:06.439 there every second week, Like, does it lose a little 141 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:10.120 bit of the fact that they are special games and 142 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.519 there is a limitation on the number of opportunities that 143 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:14.639 you get to get out there. There's the NRL that 144 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:18.319 that could change that as well. It also changes the 145 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:22.839 But then you know, it doesn't name really matter. Like 146 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:25.079 we call the West Tigers. Does that mean that we 147 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:28.399 have to actually be in to some degree in the 148 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:32.799 western suburbs of Sydney if you are considering that, you know, 149 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:36.879 west of Paramatta, is the Western suburbs nowadays. You know, 150 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:40.639 it would be certainly a change in that regard, but 151 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.360 there are things to look at down the track and 152 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.360 work out over time. But looking forward to those renovations 153 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:51.600 that like that's going to be I still I don't. 154 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:53.799 I can't believe it's ever going to happen, but hey, 155 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:56.639 look it looks like it is, so we'll wait and 156 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:58.840 see for that. Let's have a look at the mountain 157 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:03.039 of one word submiss from the West Tigers podcast forum, 158 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:05.559 and in recent times we've made a couple of back 159 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:08.240 end changes to the West Tigers podcast Forum, but a 160 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:14.279 whole bunch of front end new features and new ways 161 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:17.120 of communicating by the West Tigers Podcast Forums about to 162 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:18.480 come in in the next couple of weeks, so we'll 163 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:20.879 let you know more about that. But a couple of 164 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:25.120 those new members on the podcast forum, let's go with theirs. First, 165 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:30.399 oz Mo seven. Their word was crowd. It was a 166 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:34.000 terrible game, but the win was for the crowd to enjoy. 167 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:37.799 That's a good one. The bing their one word was Mike, 168 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:40.879 but not the well known member of the West Tigers 169 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:44.480 podcast for him talking about Mike the chicken that runs 170 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:47.240 around without a hit reminds them of the West Tigers. 171 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:51.279 Tiger seventy, their word was may, may we avoid the 172 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:54.720 wooden spoon and may the forest be with us. Barrow's 173 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.279 word was may as well, we don't get close without 174 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:03.759 him about tailor may Davy Farrell staggering, staggering that we 175 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.039 won that game. Mac Tiger's word was stolen. We stole 176 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:11.200 that one. Wagga Tiger's word was confused. A win's a win. 177 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:13.759 But they look like they just met each other. Yeah, 178 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.559 it looked like seventeen guys that met out in the 179 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:18.320 car park who decided to come out and play a 180 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:22.279 game of football. Tiger fifty one to fifty difficult. It 181 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:25.759 was a difficult game to watch. We made it harder 182 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:27.240 than it should have been, so we made it more 183 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:29.799 difficult than it should have been. It's difficult to see 184 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:32.919 any plan or structure in attack. It's difficult to see 185 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:35.720 how Jack Bird gets another game, and it's difficult to 186 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.480 see where the improvement comes from. Yarni's word was who 187 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.000 who cares a win? Is a win? Tiger Tragic fifty 188 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:47.480 six contribution was may the only positive. Peter Ay's word 189 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:52.039 was iq or a complete lack of Rachel Nine's word 190 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:54.799 was how are we still this awful in the red 191 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:56.279 zone after all these years? 192 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:01.000 Hang on, hang on, sorry, Joel. We can go with 193 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:03.600 a one word, We can go the couple words, We 194 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:06.720 can even go a phrase, but we can't take a paragraph. 195 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:09.200 Come on, Rach, we can't tag a paragraph as a 196 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:09.679 one word. 197 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:14.600 Edny Given Sunday's word was God's Eddie's football gods. They 198 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:17.039 finally let one go our way and we're going to 199 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:19.399 have a talk about the football gods and a second. 200 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:24.759 Steve tiger'sman confused. We were confused in attack. We're a 201 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:27.120 confused team. How can we be in a better position 202 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:31.120 on the table? Play so poorly? LFC Tiger their word 203 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:34.200 was flat. I could barely raise a cheer. It was 204 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:38.799 at times an utterly inept performance from both sides. Tiger 205 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.879 to own sfs, lucky, lucky to win that one Tiger 206 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:47.039 symmetry deliverance. We bank the win, no small thing. Enumerator's 207 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:50.080 word was thieves. We stole that one. Mike there is 208 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:53.120 there's Mike. Ugly. An ugly win and an ugly game 209 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:56.639 we would normally lose. And on the rich ometer, poor, 210 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:00.559 poor team performance, Farmer. Rando's word was twenty twenty three, 211 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:04.000 we looked like the Tigers of twenty twenty three. Tiger's 212 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:07.039 I another new member of the podcast forum coaching, we 213 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:10.159 aren't a well coached side that Mak seventy eight's word 214 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:13.080 was contract, give one to Tailor May and Adam Dewey 215 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.519 for next year, seek and destroy. His word was punish. 216 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:19.720 Why do I punish myself every week with this team? 217 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:23.840 Canbra Tiger's word was lucky. Tiger Lily said, dysfunctional. Lord 218 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.399 knows how we won that one. Kenny four five one 219 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:30.440 seven their word was diabolical and Teddy s their word 220 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.799 was z That's what grade I thought. I was watching 221 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:39.639 zed great football Steve the Football Gods, Eddie's famous football Gods. 222 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:42.799 We had a little bit of luck in that game, 223 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.440 didn't we. The God smiled us on us just a 224 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:46.159 little bit. 225 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:49.960 And we did. We did have luck. It wasn't as 226 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:53.360 if we got to bounce the ball that went our 227 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:56.879 way and then we stole, you know, like the Warriors did. 228 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:00.879 It wasn't luck from that perspective. The luck I reckon 229 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.799 was the fact that we didn't turn up, but either 230 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:08.679 did the Titans, and I think that's where you say 231 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:12.879 we had the luck because they were very poor. We 232 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:17.600 were very poor minus ten. We were just that little 233 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:19.519 bit better the stats. If you look at the stats, 234 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:23.240 most of the stats do go our way. We made 235 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:27.840 more meters through the game, our completion rate was marginally better, 236 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:34.039 our mistackles were less, so we actually did beat them legitimately. 237 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:37.039 But it was a very low standard game. But you know, 238 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.039 at the end of the day, we've winged and winged 239 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:42.240 and wined when we say we can't win the moments 240 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:45.320 and we don't know how to win, and we don't 241 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:47.919 like there's no arguing that we struggled to know how 242 00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:50.360 to close the game out win. But what we saw 243 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.039 on the weekend was a team that played poorly, that 244 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:58.120 continued to play poor, that made basic errors, that never 245 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:02.519 really got into a flow, but won the game, found 246 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:03.679 a way to win it. And it was a little 247 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.399 bit of brilliance by Adam Dewey, but it was a 248 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.440 little bit more than that too. And I'll probably do 249 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.399 it Joel, So I hope I'm not jump in the gun, 250 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:14.200 but I'll just mentioned one thing, and that's that's our 251 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:18.240 left edge attack and our left edge at tap looked great, 252 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.039 and we're all going to talk about Taylor May quite rightly. 253 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:25.000 He was absolutely brilliant and we're found we've found a 254 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:28.120 superstar in that position. And I don't think I'm being 255 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:30.759 over the top in saying that. We can talk about 256 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:32.799 that later, but I just want to talk about that 257 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:39.759 whole Like Feinu passing out to Leui, getting it to May, 258 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:43.759 getting it to Skeleton, that combination is going to be 259 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:47.720 dynamic for US. Loui, without doubt had his best game 260 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.440 in attack for US. I gave it to him last 261 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.600 pod that I was on saying that he's doing a 262 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:54.919 whole lot of good stuff, but his attack is just horrendous, 263 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:58.720 and I still stand by what I said. But he 264 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:02.879 was awesome in the attack, his combination with Feynu like 265 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:06.159 Fanu giving him good early ball, and the way the 266 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:10.639 way ran off the Feu pass and straightened the attack 267 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:14.519 and then gave good ball to Taylor May, who then 268 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:20.240 delivered good ball to Skelton when he needed to. Was 269 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:23.159 that that is something that we should be really looking 270 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.759 forward to seeing develop the rest of this year and 271 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.360 in the next year. That is going to be a dynamic, 272 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:34.320 powerful point scoring machine at that left edge. I'm convinced. 273 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:38.039 Yeah, I've got the all written down in my notes. 274 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:42.039 I was very impressed as well, especially without Samuel Lafanu, 275 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:45.480 who's normally there in that position in the back row 276 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:49.639 and is normally making quite a contribution. That makes me 277 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.320 excited when he's back there as well. But no, I 278 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.440 wholeheartily agree. Thing I like about Taylor may coming back 279 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:58.559 to that physicalities. He just looks to have so much strength, 280 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:00.639 not just in his upper body but his hips. He 281 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.879 just he just really knows how to power through and 282 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.360 I was really impressed with it. And some of his 283 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:07.120 defense too. 284 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:10.960 Yeah, defense, his defense is rock solid. But he's smart too. 285 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:14.759 Like that first try, he's smart and he's a footballer. 286 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:17.519 He had the confidence, but a lot of a lot 287 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:20.360 of guys that there wasn't a huge there wasn't. 288 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:22.360 A lot of space there for him for him to 289 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:25.399 go to the tryline down that left corner, and he 290 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.799 went for it. He had the confidence and the smarts 291 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:31.600 and the strength, as you said, because he carried guys 292 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:34.039 over the line to score that try that that wasn't 293 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:38.000 a laydown was there to get that ball down and 294 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.039 he did. He didn't try to get the winger to 295 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:42.759 come inside and turn it back in. He said, no, 296 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:45.759 my try, I'm going for it and he got there. 297 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:50.159 He's yeah, it was a superstar from Taylor. 298 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:53.279 Given he's only played half a game of Cup, I 299 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:54.759 believe it's only half a game in your south. I 300 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.480 was cup very impressed and he seemed to he seems fit, 301 00:16:57.600 --> 00:16:59.720 he seems like he was you know, I mean, I 302 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:01.879 guess that the genetics are there. We can see it 303 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:05.000 in his brother running marathons and playing eighty minutes. So 304 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:08.799 there's lots to be optimistic there. It does certainly sort 305 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.480 of shift the center discussion. We're always talking about centers 306 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:15.640 over the off season. We're talking about we're talking about Naden, 307 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:19.119 and we're talking about Olham and all sorts of conversations. 308 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.319 But you would think that that May is going to 309 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:24.839 be one of those centers moving forward. And then you 310 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:28.680 start to think, well, Stafford Tower's there, but you've got 311 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:31.839 Makassini coming through as well. So I'm going to be 312 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:33.519 interested to see which way they go with that. I 313 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.000 suppose the thing that you could probably say is, barring injury, 314 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.519 probably do these days in the centers for the West 315 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:44.480 Tigers are probably over but Teller apparently not re signed Steve. 316 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.519 Should we be backing the youth there or should we 317 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:50.160 be giving Tower another contract? 318 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:56.880 I'd be I'd be finalizing that Tower extension or new 319 00:17:56.920 --> 00:17:59.559 contract as soon as we can. I think Towers are 320 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:02.480 great for him, and he's going to become I think 321 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:04.480 he's already a very good center. I think I think 322 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:08.160 he could become a great center. I'm hoping that we 323 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:10.960 have Taylor Maine and Staff Tower in the centers. And 324 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:13.279 we talked about this, Gary and I talked about this 325 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:15.680 on the pob the other night where we saw where's 326 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:19.960 Macassini fit in? And he's only young, you know, he's 327 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:23.240 only just started to play all age football. You know, 328 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:25.519 he's only got a couple of games where he's played 329 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:27.799 against men. So he's still got a bit of a 330 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.880 journey ahead of him and he needs to come through that. 331 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:33.119 Maybe it'll get to the point where he's knocking down 332 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:36.559 the door and they have to find a spot for him. 333 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:39.640 And so that that's a conundrument Benji's got to deal with. 334 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:42.960 But it's a great problem to have to have someone 335 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:46.519 like Taylor Maine, staffa Tower as you're starting sentas and Macasini. 336 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.880 You know, if he's as good as we think, he's 337 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:55.160 going to be sitting in the background knocking down the 338 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.960 door for a spot in first grade, that that's awesome. 339 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:01.880 And we talked about doing the other night as well. 340 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:03.759 So I don't want to go over it too much, 341 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:06.640 but I liked what I liked what I saw on 342 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:11.680 the weekend and when he shifted flock last of the 343 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.920 week before. I don't know whether do is going to 344 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:19.759 be satisfied in that role, playing thirteen or possibly playing 345 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:24.680 fourteen in the fourteen role, but if he is prepared 346 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:26.680 to give that a go, I think there's something inner 347 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:29.839 for us. I think he gives us another option as 348 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.559 a board player. He gives us another kicking option. What 349 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:38.640 concerns me. And it wasn't a huge There were a 350 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:42.480 lot of mistackles in the middle, but they do He wasn't, 351 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.599 you know, one of the main offenders there on the weekend. 352 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:49.759 So if he can, if he can defend for eighty 353 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:53.039 minutes in the middle, then he could make a goal 354 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:55.680 thirteen and he could give us an answer for thirteen 355 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.960 because we've been looking for it for a while. There's 356 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.599 talk this week that in the last couple of days 357 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:04.519 that he might be going to the Panthers or elsewhere. 358 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:07.519 Dragons apparently interested. 359 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.000 Yeah, dragons as well. Yeah, so I don't know, but 360 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.839 if I was in the Tigers camp, i'd be I'll 361 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:18.920 be giving some serious consideration to extending him. 362 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:20.920 Well, I can't see him getting a starting spot in 363 00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:25.440 the halves at the Panthers. Maybe at the Dragons maybe. 364 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:28.160 So I think if you're going to if you're going 365 00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:30.000 to play regular first grade, it might be in a 366 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:32.799 position such as lock or utility, and then it might 367 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:34.640 come down to dollars, and it might come down to love, 368 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:37.839 love of the club. I've got to give him a 369 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:40.480 rap for his goal can to a couple of beautiful 370 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:43.319 kicks from the sideline. The funny thing is, I'd hate 371 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:46.240 to be sort of facetious, but he's still now he's 372 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:50.079 the world's slowest lock. I thought Jackson Hastings had that title, 373 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:54.559 but Adam Dewey, he yeah, he takes a little bit 374 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:56.720 of winding up to get up off the line. Just 375 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:59.839 back to the backs. If you if you play macas 376 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.079 any on the wing, no great place to start a 377 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.279 career on the wing, But then you've you've got to 378 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:06.960 try and fit to Ruvera and Skelton in and it's 379 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:09.400 going to be an interesting one as well. So you know, 380 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:12.200 there's going to be some headaches there, I think for 381 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:15.400 the club, and maybe a couple of tough decisions to 382 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:18.640 make in regards to all of that. We're not going 383 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:19.880 to beat up on the guy, but he had an 384 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:25.359 unhappy game. Charlie stains, Steve, you do get that out 385 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:28.839 of a Charlie Stains every now and then. He has 386 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:32.400 been used as a backup. He was primarily a backup 387 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:37.759 at the Panthers, maybe a potential candidate for the Shredder, 388 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:40.240 because I imagine that Charlie probably wants a little bit more 389 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:43.839 money than a fringy winger might sort of command. 390 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:49.720 Yeah, well it's a pity because I you know, I 391 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:51.319 was off him earlier in the year, and I thought 392 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:53.200 for a lot of the year when he's coming to 393 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:56.279 first grade, he's actually done a pretty good job, probably 394 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:57.920 better than a pretty good job. But yeah, he had 395 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:01.400 an absolute stinker on the weekend. He just had flippers 396 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:04.319 for the hands, that's for sure. He was terrible with 397 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:06.799 poor blood. But he's just got to throw that one 398 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.640 away forget about it and get back to playing decent footy. 399 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:13.039 But if Buller comes back, I think Buller was hopeful 400 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.599 of being back this week. So if that's the case, 401 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:19.559