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<v Speaker 1>And welcome, Welcome, Welcome. It is time now for our

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<v Speaker 1>community connection right here on K one. The one you

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<v Speaker 1>trust and with me here is Aaron kirk Patrick and

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<v Speaker 1>you are running forward four And we just saw each

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<v Speaker 1>other just what a few minutes ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just a couple of hours we sat together at

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<v Speaker 2>the forum over at our vest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It was an interesting UH event last night.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people got to hear a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>from each Canada. But we're gonna hear a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>from you today. One of the big issues in Bartlesville,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially in your ward is UH is the homelessness issue.

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<v Speaker 1>And you a few ideas that you've been working on

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<v Speaker 1>for quite a while. I mean, I remember when you

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<v Speaker 1>first said you were running you had ideas. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>hear a little bit about those?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, I was really moved by the

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<v Speaker 2>listener's question that we got to talk about last night,

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<v Speaker 2>which was essentially, and I won't remember a word for word,

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<v Speaker 2>but the question was basically, my daughter got chased at

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<v Speaker 2>knife point on the pathfinder. What can we do to

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<v Speaker 2>address the homelessness issue? And that's not the only time

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<v Speaker 2>that I've heard that story. Actually, it's the homelessess situation

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<v Speaker 2>has really gotten out of control, and we've got people

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<v Speaker 2>suffering on both ends of this. We have homeless neighbors

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<v Speaker 2>who are suffering and we have the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>community that's suffering as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a plan that I can't take.

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<v Speaker 2>Credit for all of it, because in fact, the plan

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<v Speaker 2>that I put together came from lots of discussions with

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<v Speaker 2>our nonprofit and helping organizations. On the one hand, it

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<v Speaker 2>also and I've served in the and volunteered in the

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<v Speaker 2>homelessness space for twenty years at this point, talking to

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<v Speaker 2>our police officers and hearing their feedback, talking to homeless

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<v Speaker 2>individuals and formerly homeless individuals who gave.

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<v Speaker 3>Their feedback on this plan.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have a plan that at this point I

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<v Speaker 2>can confidently say, with the endorsement and support of helping

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<v Speaker 2>agencies all over town, this is the plan that we

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<v Speaker 2>need to be pursuing. And I call it the high

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<v Speaker 2>Way out of homelessness or the highway out of here,

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<v Speaker 2>And essentially the highway out of homelessness is what we

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<v Speaker 2>will call it. When we take our helping organizations, we

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<v Speaker 2>unsilo them and we streamline them so that you know

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<v Speaker 2>the way that a highway works where there's lots of

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<v Speaker 2>on ramps, but it all heads in the same direction.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to we want to be able to intersect

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<v Speaker 2>with our homeless neighbors and say, no matter what their

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<v Speaker 2>needs are, we have helping organizations that are already set

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<v Speaker 2>up to help you, but they struggle to interface well together.

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<v Speaker 2>So creating that layer in coordination between those groups will

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<v Speaker 2>allow us to say, if it's a church that meets

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<v Speaker 2>a homeless gentleman, or the police owner sect with a

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<v Speaker 2>homeless lady, or they show up at a gape for help,

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<v Speaker 2>or one of our homeless shelters, we say, hey, what

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<v Speaker 2>is your complex web of needs? But wherever we intersect you,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to put you on the highway out of

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<v Speaker 2>homelessness so we can get you into stable housing as

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<v Speaker 2>quickly as possible. And by coordinating with these groups, and

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<v Speaker 2>these groups have all talked about with me how they

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<v Speaker 2>can coordinate, then we can help people move into stable housing.

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<v Speaker 2>That is great for people who are experiencing situational homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>These are people who if they can get the help

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<v Speaker 2>that they need, they can move out of homelessness and

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<v Speaker 2>into a more stable living situation. What our police officers

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<v Speaker 2>are dealing with are people who are homeless by choice,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning and this is a fairly small number of people,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are people who are just hey, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>living outside of the tent. I'm happy using the services

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<v Speaker 2>that Bartlesville has to offer. And these people, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>start in Bartlesville. Let's see, I met aman yesterday who

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<v Speaker 2>moved here from Wichita. Last week, there were four or

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<v Speaker 2>five guys who all came together from Durant now are

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<v Speaker 2>homeless in Bartlesville. The police were telling me last month

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<v Speaker 2>about a guy who had trained, hopped from la and

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<v Speaker 2>ended up staying in Bartlesville because he discovered all of

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<v Speaker 2>the services that our town has to offer. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to homeless individuals, and I've talked to a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of them about this plan, almost none of them

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<v Speaker 2>started in Bartlesville. So for those folks, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of homelessness, we want to help you

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<v Speaker 2>do that. If your desire is to be homeless and

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<v Speaker 2>just to use the services we have, we're not interested

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<v Speaker 2>in helping with that because there is a cost to

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the community. I talk a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>the externalization of consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I make a choice and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Impacts and then there's a negative consequence that comes from it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I put that negative consequence onto you. I've externalized

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<v Speaker 2>the consequence of my action onto you, right. That have

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<v Speaker 2>the community level too. It's why I'm not allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>take my dumpster and empty it into my neighbor's yard.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we have that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if my dumpster's overflowing, I can't toss it into

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else's yard because I've externalized the consequence of my choices.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's happening at the community level right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>the Highway out of here would essentially make make lowest

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<v Speaker 2>level misdemeanors of a few behaviors that are negatively impacting

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<v Speaker 2>the community. Camping in certain public spaces, specifically like around

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<v Speaker 2>Pathfinder for instance, where there's lots of homeless encampments out

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<v Speaker 2>there right now, yep, aggressive panhandling outside of businesses. And

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<v Speaker 2>then for our business owners, dumpster diving, especially downtown. Our

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<v Speaker 2>business owners have really had an issue with dumpster diving

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<v Speaker 2>and them having to clean up the litter that other

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<v Speaker 2>people have created. If we make these low level misdemeanors,

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<v Speaker 2>then it gives the police officers probable cause to interact

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<v Speaker 2>with folks, and the goal of that is education. Here

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<v Speaker 2>are the resources we have for you. What help do

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<v Speaker 2>you need? How do we get you on the highway

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<v Speaker 2>out of homelessness. But if people are not interested in

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<v Speaker 2>changing their behavior, well, I want to keep living out here,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to keep going through the dumpsters, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to keep panhandling.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where the misdemeanors come into play.

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<v Speaker 2>And the goal of misdemeanors is not to put a

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<v Speaker 2>homeless people in jail or to find homeless people.

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<v Speaker 3>That's absolutely not the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>The goal is community service, so the individuals become contributing

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<v Speaker 2>members of our community. If they don't do that, then

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<v Speaker 2>those misdemeanors are publicly available to our helping organizations so

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<v Speaker 2>that they can say when you show up to a gape,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, they run your ID before they serve you

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<v Speaker 2>and say, I'm sorry, you've got these misdemeanors because you've

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<v Speaker 2>not been complying with our homelessness laws. We're just going

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<v Speaker 2>to turn off the tap. We can't serve you. At

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<v Speaker 2>that point. We don't have to force people out. An

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<v Speaker 2>individual has a choice to make either join the highway

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<v Speaker 2>out of homelessness, right start taking these services and getting

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<v Speaker 2>the help you need to get out of homelessness, or

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<v Speaker 2>figure out a way to provide for yourself, or move

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<v Speaker 2>to a community that will. So it's all I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about individual agency and agent see is simply

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<v Speaker 2>the dignity to make choices and understand the consequences of

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<v Speaker 2>those choices. It's freedom and responsibility. So my goal is

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<v Speaker 2>to treat our homeless neighbors with the same dignity that

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<v Speaker 2>I treat the rest of our community with and to say,

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<v Speaker 2>let us help you make choices that will lead you

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<v Speaker 2>out of homelessness, or we will give you the freedom

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<v Speaker 2>not to make those choices, and we have the choice

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<v Speaker 2>not to help, not to enable, And in doing so,

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<v Speaker 2>our helping organizations have said overwhelmingly, and this is a

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<v Speaker 2>Skelton like it will continue to be fleshed out and improved,

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<v Speaker 2>but they've said overwhelmingly, this is the plan that we need.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time that I proposed this plan publicly

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<v Speaker 2>as part of my campaign into the City Council, the

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<v Speaker 2>City Council voted on a homeless on a homeless plan

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Their plan was to spend a month putting

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<v Speaker 2>together a plan for a committee and then to vote

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<v Speaker 2>on that committee, and then to have that committee study

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<v Speaker 2>the homeless this issue for six months, then come back

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<v Speaker 2>to the back to the city council with hopefully a

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<v Speaker 2>recommendation for what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a year.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's meetings about meetings about meetings for six months

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<v Speaker 2>before we do anything, like it's a bureaucrats, bureaucratic solution,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not a solution at all because for those

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<v Speaker 2>six months, my wife and daughters still can't walk on

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<v Speaker 2>pathfinders safely by themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither can yours. So we've got a crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to six month spend six months studying the

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<v Speaker 2>crisis when we have professionals in the community with decades

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<v Speaker 2>of experience who are endorsing this plan saying the highway

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<v Speaker 2>out of homelessness is what we need, and they go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we should probably study it.

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<v Speaker 3>For six more months. To me, that's a pretty inefficient

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<v Speaker 3>way to deal with a crisis. Very good.

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<v Speaker 1>You have another one called like a land rush.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, people are almost said, going what.

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<v Speaker 1>And folks, you need to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the hometown Heroes land Run is on the west

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<v Speaker 2>side of town. Especially, we have an affordable housing crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I spoke to a few women at the

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<v Speaker 2>Westside Community Center this last Saturday who said they're knocking

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<v Speaker 2>down the homes in our in our neighborhoods, but not

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<v Speaker 2>building anything else instead of a lot. Yes, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the city owns some of these properties. So my idea

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<v Speaker 2>the way that real estate development works is once investment

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<v Speaker 2>money comes into a community, other investment money will follow it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because once once you start to have economic signals that

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<v Speaker 2>this neighborhood is being is being upgraded or built or improved, Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>other people see it and go, well, if I invest

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<v Speaker 2>here now, then I've got a larger profit margin down

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<v Speaker 2>the road. So what we want to do is begin

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<v Speaker 2>that investment process so that we will see this cascade

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<v Speaker 2>of positive effects. So the Hometown Heroes Land Run is

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<v Speaker 2>to is to take these lots that the city owns

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<v Speaker 2>because of tax delinquency, and rather than selling them, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to give the away through a raffle or a

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<v Speaker 2>lottery system to our teachers, our firefighters, and our police officers.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the back end, I've been working with lending

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<v Speaker 2>organizations to streamline the financing process and with some of

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<v Speaker 2>our local developers to streamline the building process and asking

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<v Speaker 2>both of these into these both these groups of people, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>take a little less money on the front end of

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<v Speaker 2>this thing because of the people you're helping. These are

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<v Speaker 2>folks that we want to stay in Bartlesville. And at

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<v Speaker 2>the backside, yes that. So then we take these properties

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<v Speaker 2>ninety days out, we'd put them on the city's website

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<v Speaker 2>to these organizations and say, hey, these are the properties

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<v Speaker 2>we're given away. Would you like to enter the raffle

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<v Speaker 2>for them, and our teachers, police officers, firefighters can go

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<v Speaker 2>and look at them and say yes, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>build here. They give them three months to get to

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<v Speaker 2>get funding secured, to get a house plan secured, so

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<v Speaker 2>by the time that they win that property, they're ready

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<v Speaker 2>to break ground, just boom immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>And then as those houses go up. One of the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Key pieces we have a really high, i think an

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<v Speaker 2>unhealthy high density of rentals in the west side of town.

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<v Speaker 2>So these properties will have to be owner occupied for

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<v Speaker 2>the first ten years, which means that whoever is living

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<v Speaker 2>there will be a part of that community. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>building the house just to have more rentals. We're building

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<v Speaker 2>the house to have more community members.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question, Yes, sir, what if someone has

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<v Speaker 1>to make a life change or a move and what

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<v Speaker 1>happens to that home?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they're still they're allowed to sell a home.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, you could develop it and sell it immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>but whoever buys it will.

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<v Speaker 3>Still have to be owner occupied for the first decade. Understood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And then part of what I'm trying to do,

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<v Speaker 2>part of what this will also allow us to do

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<v Speaker 2>is because we have an affordable rental problem too. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the lots downtown are already zoned multi family residential.

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<v Speaker 2>So my idea with these lots is to let people

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<v Speaker 2>build the home that they want to live in. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, you can build a detached rental

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<v Speaker 2>unit as well. And a lot of these properties can

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<v Speaker 2>be in above garage apartment that can be a free

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<v Speaker 2>standing apartment. But basically you have the owner occupants living

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<v Speaker 2>on the property and then they can have renters living

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<v Speaker 2>on the property with them. By doing that, it allows

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<v Speaker 2>the builders to be able to afford their mortgage a

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<v Speaker 2>little more easily. But also what we'll be building then

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<v Speaker 2>is typically rentals that are going to be sub one

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a month, which is really what we need

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<v Speaker 2>right now in bartles BA badly got lots of single

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<v Speaker 2>moms going, Hey, me and my two kids are looking

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<v Speaker 2>for a two bedroom apartment for less than thousand bucks

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<v Speaker 2>a month. They are extremely hard to find, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>a unit that you'd feel safe with your kids.

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<v Speaker 3>But because it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Owner occupied, you have people who are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>taking really good care of this brand new property. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a lot safer because the people

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<v Speaker 2>who own the property are living right there as your

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<v Speaker 2>next door neighbor.

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<v Speaker 3>They do the renter.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're dealing with two different issues, or actually it's

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<v Speaker 2>more like five. We get this, we get this property

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<v Speaker 2>off the city you know tax doll We start making

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<v Speaker 2>property taxes off the property, so it benefits the entire community.

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<v Speaker 2>We benefit our hometown heroes by helping them build affordable

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<v Speaker 2>house for themselves. We benefit the community around them, and

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<v Speaker 2>we start building affordable rentals, which also.

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<v Speaker 3>Helps our community. It's just a cat. I love.

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<v Speaker 2>I love ideas that have positive cascading effects, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think we need those kind of ideas at the government level.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can we find out more about you and these ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand you've got a couple of videos that explain

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<v Speaker 1>these in greater detail than what we have time for here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so if you're streaming this on Facebook right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go to you can just search Aaron for

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<v Speaker 2>Ward four on Facebook. My Facebook page has tons of

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<v Speaker 2>videos explaining policy ideas. You can also go to my

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<v Speaker 2>website erinforward four dot com, or you can just probably

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<v Speaker 2>google Aaron for Ward four and it'll come up. Facebook

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<v Speaker 2>is the best way to connect with my ideas because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm because of these videos happen, you know, every other.

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<v Speaker 3>Day, I'm putting out lots of content, lots of content.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, my goodness sakes. And once again early voarding

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<v Speaker 1>starts today and election Day is coming up on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>And Aaron Kirkak, thank you very much for.

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<v Speaker 3>Being here with now. Thank you, Tom, appreciate it already.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks, you have been watching and listening to our commuter
