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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I want to welcome back to the nonprofits. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have a new hope. Everybody fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, the Pope has some political opinions that he has

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<v Speaker 2>to get off of his noggin, so we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Cyndy with that information.

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<v Speaker 3>So Cindy, go ahead, let's talk about the new Pope.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. You know, I've always been puzzled at the Pope's popularity.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I understand the history, the weight of the

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<v Speaker 4>one point three billion people Catholics in the world, the

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<v Speaker 4>ridiculous theater behind their election, but still it's still puzzling

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<v Speaker 4>to me. Anyway, let me introduce you to the new

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<v Speaker 4>pope that got elected last week. Meet Robert Francis Prevost

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<v Speaker 4>aka Pope Leo fourteen. He is the first US citizen

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<v Speaker 4>elected to that position, and the entire media ecosystem is

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<v Speaker 4>trying to read a hidden miss meaning into it. So

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<v Speaker 4>let's dive into it. This story is from Yeah We

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<v Speaker 4>News by Andrew Romano May nine five.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now, as a former Catholic, I have okay, even

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<v Speaker 2>though I hate the Catholic Church, there's kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>romanticism for my childhood with the pope. So we're just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna there's that going on. So the former Pope pro

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<v Speaker 2>frances was like trying to be okay with queer people,

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<v Speaker 2>but which was kind of like, yeah, I know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it seems that this pope is also may want to portray,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, portray the same message or betray depending on

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<v Speaker 2>your views. Also as well that being said, do you

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm gonna bring this around to you, Sidney, do

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<v Speaker 2>you think that this might be a ploy as I

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<v Speaker 2>said earlier this week about like, you know, the Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>church numbers going down and maybe me being more appealing

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<v Speaker 2>for people living in twenty twenty five asking Sydney.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I thought you said, Steven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, I probably maybe I did. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Like I said, everyone is trying to

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<v Speaker 4>to see a employee behind this UH, this this election.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not supposed to say this, but I don't really care,

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<v Speaker 4>to be honest. I mean, whether they are trying to

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<v Speaker 4>appeal to UH, to the US, or maybe they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to put pressure on Trump, or whether whatever explanation people

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<v Speaker 4>can can come up with in this situation. I I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think it's relevant because I personally find this Pope

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<v Speaker 4>to be rather boring. Everything I read on him preparing

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<v Speaker 4>for for for this article show that he's he's middle

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<v Speaker 4>of the road. That's how they used to describe him

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<v Speaker 4>in the article, And I don't know what to think

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<v Speaker 4>of him. Of course, the Catholic Church remains the worst

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<v Speaker 4>criminal institution in the world, and I don't believe it

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<v Speaker 4>can change enough to ever catch up to the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of society. So this pope seems to trigger hope in

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<v Speaker 4>some people. Not me, but some people. And just like

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<v Speaker 4>others before him, he'll just express his will to progress

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<v Speaker 4>in a couple of topics and nothing will really change,

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<v Speaker 4>and he'll still be conservative on most topics, and people

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<v Speaker 4>in the world will keep suffering because of this criminal institution,

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<v Speaker 4>like victims of AIDS in Africa, gay in trant people everywhere, abuse, nuns, children,

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<v Speaker 4>all those categories of people have been harmed in a

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<v Speaker 4>way or other by the Catholic Church. Regarding this specific pope,

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to say that there's been some allegations

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<v Speaker 4>of cover up about sexual abuse in children. I added

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<v Speaker 4>an article in the description. Well, we added a description

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<v Speaker 4>an article in the description of this video that will

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<v Speaker 4>give more context to this and apparently some people say

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<v Speaker 4>that he's done a lot to prevent abuse and report

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<v Speaker 4>abuse that was happening. So regarding this very specific point,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we should be where we to not jump

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<v Speaker 4>to conclusions and wait until we have more information. But

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<v Speaker 4>in any case, the Pope is not the issue. The

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<v Speaker 4>Catholic Church is.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, like and EJ, I want to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>intrg you because like, I kind of feel this way

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<v Speaker 2>too about like the new Pope being an American. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not something I expected, and though he has said

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<v Speaker 2>some critical things about the current administration, but also I

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<v Speaker 2>do know the Catholic Church pass afflirtations with authoritarian governments,

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<v Speaker 2>which that's something you should all note.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was kind of getting your feeling, like, why

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<v Speaker 1>does this feel odd?

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<v Speaker 2>It feels odd to a lot of people about him

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<v Speaker 2>being an American, and you know the kind of vibe

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on right now with him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would love to hear your opinion on that.

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<v Speaker 5>It feels odd to me for a couple of reasons,

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<v Speaker 5>one of which is for a lot of cultural reasons.

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<v Speaker 5>The pope has almost always been European, given the for

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of the Catholic Church's history Europe was where

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<v Speaker 5>everything that affected the Catholic Church happened, whether it be

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<v Speaker 5>good things or a bad things, mainly bad things fairy

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<v Speaker 5>years war. I know that it's someone who has from

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<v Speaker 5>a different content. It feels about odd that I'm opposed

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<v Speaker 5>to change in the Catholic Church, because I would like

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<v Speaker 5>to change as much as possible, although I do wonder

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<v Speaker 5>how the US, given that has the largest group Protestants

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<v Speaker 5>out of any country in.

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<v Speaker 6>The world, will deal with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Will they be happy? Will they be sad? It's the US,

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<v Speaker 5>so I imagine a lot of mixed feelings. However, I

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<v Speaker 5>do have one thing to note about him that is

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<v Speaker 5>quite funny that I found out on accident, not researching.

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<v Speaker 5>He apparently had a fling when he was nineteen with

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<v Speaker 5>someone from Chicago. So that means there might be someone

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<v Speaker 5>out there who's done the pope, which, if so, that

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<v Speaker 5>is the best brag anyone could ever.

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<v Speaker 6>Have going for the pope.

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<v Speaker 2>Mobile y so, and in a minute, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>hear I'm going to just share some weird po factoids

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel like I need to share.

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<v Speaker 1>But saving but you had.

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<v Speaker 6>A thought, fought, what's like, what do you think forty

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<v Speaker 6>five would have done if the Pope was a person

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<v Speaker 6>of color, what what would have what would have gone

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<v Speaker 6>on in his racist little brain? Like would he have

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<v Speaker 6>like completely Like we already know that a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>American Catholics uh were pulling away from Pope Francis because

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<v Speaker 6>of his progressive stance, because they because the America has

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<v Speaker 6>this current uh riding a wave of conservativism, and so

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<v Speaker 6>they'd sooner listen to popular media Catholic of figures rather

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<v Speaker 6>than listen to the pope. So there was already a

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<v Speaker 6>divide happening there. And if if the if the Pope

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<v Speaker 6>would have been a person of color, would forty five

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<v Speaker 6>have just like like, I don't think he would have

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<v Speaker 6>like publicly derided him, but I think, uh, like I wonder, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>how how how deep would that have divide have gone?

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<v Speaker 6>And conversely, how much yeah, how much reconciliation will Vatican

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<v Speaker 6>City see with America? Because okay, we've got one of

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<v Speaker 6>europe people on our team. Now that that gets us

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<v Speaker 6>something right.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh, just though it's odd that the Pope is American,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to pope. You know, some popes in

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<v Speaker 2>the past, one put corps on trial, another one had

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<v Speaker 2>orgies and the Vada Can. Another one had three popes

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<v Speaker 2>have father children. One pope was a woman and another

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<v Speaker 2>pope sold the papacy and then try to buy it back.

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<v Speaker 2>Some popes had executioners on their staff, and Pope Leo

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<v Speaker 2>the tenth Blue.

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<v Speaker 3>Church money on a pet elephant.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you look at pope facts, I recommend weird

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<v Speaker 2>pope facts.

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<v Speaker 5>The pope I can add something kind of even weirder

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<v Speaker 5>with the pope he was the head of a standing army.

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<v Speaker 5>The Vacans say had an army, not like not tectonic

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<v Speaker 5>knights either. They used guns, they used ruling blog right,

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<v Speaker 5>and they are marked with Questionian inscriptions. It is the

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<v Speaker 5>weirdest thing I have ever seen in my life, and

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<v Speaker 5>yet it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is on brand, like I mean, like, you know, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna like your freak flag fly, you might as

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<v Speaker 2>well do it that way. Any Oh, my goodness, weird

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<v Speaker 2>that you can now. So anyway, okay, siddy, hi, let

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<v Speaker 2>me get this train back on the road. So let's see, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So Puba Luis, Oh, you special, special man. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit skeptical about his Jean genuine belief in the

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<v Speaker 2>reform and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This you know, maybe there's a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of desperation, as I mentioned before. And do you

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<v Speaker 2>think he's going to do anything that kind of clean

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<v Speaker 2>up the corrupt system that is like so insidiously woven into.

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<v Speaker 1>Every aspect of the church.

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<v Speaker 2>Like do you see him trying did you reform and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make it a better place?

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<v Speaker 4>I think he will try something. Yes, I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>if if what I saw in this an article is true, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>he will try to uh to make sure that any

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<v Speaker 4>any abuse occur occurred in the in the church will

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<v Speaker 4>be taken care of and not just hidden or or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever they used to do so far, He's probably going

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<v Speaker 4>to try to do something, uh, the extent to which

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<v Speaker 4>we we we have to to wait and see. I

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. It's to me, it feels like even

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<v Speaker 4>though the Pope himself is uh is important, I think

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<v Speaker 4>we underestimate the power of the Vatican's government. Well, if

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<v Speaker 4>we can call it that way, all the people that

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<v Speaker 4>are just below him and that can be extremely conservative,

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<v Speaker 4>I think they will they will decide what happens in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of progress.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I keep like I want to believe in the

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<v Speaker 2>better angels of our nature and I want to think

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe, like you know, with someone with like fresh

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<v Speaker 2>ideas might want to like shave things up. But the

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<v Speaker 2>way that systems work, I'm not feeling super happy about

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<v Speaker 2>how things are going to go, especially like there was

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<v Speaker 2>I forget who was from the papacy said that they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted the church to go back to become more conservative.

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<v Speaker 2>So if Publio is going to be budding head heads

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<v Speaker 2>against that, I don't I'm not feeling super super confident

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<v Speaker 2>about that. So anyway, hey, Stephen, let's talk about Christine's love.

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<v Speaker 1>And do what I will aie, let's talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>in power?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Like so Leo here I'm using his chosen name,

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<v Speaker 6>of course, is a member of the Augustine Order. And

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<v Speaker 6>I'm only a little bit familiar of what the different

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<v Speaker 6>orders mean. Like I guess there's the Franciscans and the

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<v Speaker 6>Jesuits and then the Augustines. Augustine's being named after August

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<v Speaker 6>of Hippo. And I remember when I was a Christian

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<v Speaker 6>trying to struggle through my faith. One quote that was

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<v Speaker 6>from August really stuck out to me, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>love God and do what you will. Just that that freedom, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>once you have your If loving God is your main priority,

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<v Speaker 6>if that one comes first, then what your will will

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<v Speaker 6>bleed out from that goodness? And then I was really

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<v Speaker 6>digging with that and trying to before I had to

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<v Speaker 6>like really double down on inerrancy and whatnot, Like if

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<v Speaker 6>if that is you know, a mantra that he sluck

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<v Speaker 6>to assume, assuming that he could have joined any order,

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that he chose the Augustinians US, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>that speaks to someone who you know has a priority

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<v Speaker 6>of of loving people and doing what is right before

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<v Speaker 6>the dogma of legislating what is right. That that you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't I don't know much about all the other orders,

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<v Speaker 6>but it seems like there is a worse you know,

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<v Speaker 6>fraternity for is it like a fraternity. It seems like

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<v Speaker 6>there'd be a worse fraternity that he could have been

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<v Speaker 6>coming out from.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a it's a fraternity, silly hats, That's

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. That's very pretty much they SoJ how

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<v Speaker 3>I was brought up Catholic, as Catholic, which is his own.

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<v Speaker 1>Brand of Catholic.

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<v Speaker 2>So like have you experienced like not only the church

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<v Speaker 2>within Scotland, but like how are the Scots relating to

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<v Speaker 5>So Scotland has a very weird relation with Catholicism because

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<v Speaker 5>back to the troubles and there's a lot of complicated

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<v Speaker 5>politics there. However, a general theme is that Irish Republicans

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<v Speaker 5>support downtrodden people. So people like the Palestinians, an Irish

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<v Speaker 5>lot of Americans are, especially not higher up. So if

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<v Speaker 5>it comes out that now, hopefully he sticks to his

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<v Speaker 5>If he doesn't, I feel there might, especially in the UK,

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<v Speaker 5>be a very big stink made about it, because it

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<v Speaker 5>will feel like the Pope is betraying them. Also a

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<v Speaker 5>more conservative. The pope's a direct messenger of God, another

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<v Speaker 5>vessel messenger of God. You don't control or well, according

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<v Speaker 5>to them, you don't control what he says or does.

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<v Speaker 5>That's God's job. So what do you mean you want

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<v Speaker 5>him to do this or that you shouldn't. Just let

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<v Speaker 5>him do what he's going to do. It's God's will. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 5>are they? I wonder if the are all the cardinals

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<v Speaker 5>secretly atheists? So I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a name patterer.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was kind of saying thing Tony, like, what

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<v Speaker 3>He's shaking things up a little, But I guess kind of,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think there's been any anything specific here in

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<v Speaker 4>Belgium regarding this pope election. There's so much anxiety and

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<v Speaker 4>and and and fear about what Trump is going to

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<v Speaker 4>do in the next four years that I think that

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<v Speaker 4>the the biggest question is how will that influence Trump?

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<v Speaker 4>Other than that, I don't see the pope having a big,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's interesting because even though like you don't

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<v Speaker 2>think the pope has influence, I'm here in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>he has a lot of influence, especially because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Cathlatures has become have become more political in recent years.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a whole lot of politics going on, but

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<v Speaker 2>recently there's more people you know that's infiltrated to the

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<v Speaker 3>So it is you're seeing more than a nutrition within

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<v Speaker 3>the Catholic Church. I don't know Steven's experience the experiencing

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<v Speaker 3>this in Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>I just live where religion and politics can have stop

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<v Speaker 2>having sex with each other and they need to get

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<v Speaker 2>a divorce and separate really really badly. So it is

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, I will just take with them in

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<v Speaker 2>conversion therapy.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell them then you get to be religion, you get

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<v Speaker 3>to be politics.

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<v Speaker 2>So how what is the effect you've been Like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you seeing like an effect of the American pope like

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<v Speaker 2>in Canada?

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<v Speaker 1>And how Knneens are feeling about it? Are they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's fine, Like I think it's too early to say,

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<v Speaker 6>like and like I'm not. I'm not especially I'm more

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<v Speaker 6>plugged into like a Catholic community now than I ever

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<v Speaker 6>have been before, now that I'm moving into one, and

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<v Speaker 6>my partner was raised Catholic, so it's it's something I'm

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<v Speaker 6>more aware of, which is good. It's not that the

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<v Speaker 6>entire world is Mennonite or Evangelical, so it's good to

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<v Speaker 6>get those blinders off. But I think right now it's

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<v Speaker 6>wait and see. But there's so much chaos going on

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<v Speaker 6>in so many other parts of the world. It's just

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<v Speaker 6>another one of those pots that are on the stovetop

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<v Speaker 6>that is already too full. And hopefully this one doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>boil over as well, and hopefully this one doesn't burn.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's it's anyone's guess to see where things go

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<v Speaker 6>from here. Yeah, just yeah, like and and we'll see

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<v Speaker 6>even we'll see how much impact, how much sway he

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<v Speaker 6>even has over Catholics who like, honestly, they want to

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<v Speaker 6>be thinking for themselves anyway, and they'll only it. It's

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<v Speaker 6>lining up with the church is just a matter of convenience.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not like anyone changes their mind and says, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>well because the Pope says this, well, then I guess

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<v Speaker 6>I'll change my mind too. People really don't like changing

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<v Speaker 2>No, So I did want to touch on sinebo Fast

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<v Speaker 2>that you mentioned, like the global harm that the Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>Church has done, because they've done they've done some shy

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<v Speaker 2>that given the harm with like you know, telling you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Africans not to use condoms because you know in a

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<v Speaker 2>not providing reproductive care, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Those type of things, squarephobia abused.

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<v Speaker 1>We can go on and on like what is should

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<v Speaker 1>we count this is anti.

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<v Speaker 2>Faith or anti Catholic or what maybe we should also

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<v Speaker 2>the pope and I think also people too there speaking

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<v Speaker 2>out even if you're a Catholic, what message should we

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<v Speaker 2>be sending? Because we know that the Catholic Church sucks?

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<v Speaker 1>So so what would you what would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>see happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you are not going to leave the Catholic Church,

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<v Speaker 3>what would you like.

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<v Speaker 1>To see happen city?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm trying to again, No, no, No, it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>hard to to to see because there's so many things

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<v Speaker 4>things wrong in introductrine of the Catholic Church that it's

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<v Speaker 4>hard to stood to just single out something that we

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<v Speaker 4>would like to to improve, like uh we mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 4>in this week the uh the the the age epidemic

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<v Speaker 4>in in Africa, and Francis didn't do anything good with this.

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<v Speaker 4>On the contrary, Uh, there's there's so so many things.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what we could single out like this.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's like I said, it's it's the worst criminal

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<v Speaker 4>organization on the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Money laundering, Uh, sexual abuse, killing children, babies, raping nuns.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, where do you stop the list.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a Russian nestling doll.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad Like it's just you know, it's just bad all

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<v Speaker 2>the way down. So anyway, I don't have a way

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<v Speaker 2>to wrap this up that's going to put this in

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<v Speaker 2>a nice new little bowl. Just don't support the Catholic church, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and but support the nonprofits and like subscribe and clicking

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<v Speaker 2>another video.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, look, learn more about Catholic abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Like do that. Everybody take care