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Speaker 4: until six o'clock and again, as I mentioned, happy Monday.
Speaker 4: Hopefully everybody had themselves a good weekend, a weekend where
Speaker 4: I would assume those that do in fact celebrate Halloween.
Speaker 4: You know, without kids, you probably you know you would
Speaker 4: have done it on Saturday, right, Halloween parties, that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff, So Happy Halloween. Week. We are just a
Speaker 4: few days away, and I'm hoping that that it doesn't rain.
Speaker 4: It seems like and I could be way off here.
Speaker 4: I don't even really like have any it's just gut feeling.
Speaker 4: I feel like since i've been taking my kids, both
Speaker 4: of them, because my son's four, but since like he's
Speaker 4: been able to walk around, which would I guess, really
Speaker 4: be the last few christ the last few Halloweens, like
Speaker 4: it's just been rainy and cold, and I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's gonna be cold, but I know it's looking
Speaker 4: like rain. So let's let's hope that doesn't happen. Because
Speaker 4: Halloween's always been the holiday for me that I've never
Speaker 4: really understood why people get into it, like I just
Speaker 4: never I'm not like anti Halloween. I just I've never
Speaker 4: been able to match anybody's excitement and love for Halloween.
Speaker 4: The people who you know, really love it. Now. Christmas, sure,
Speaker 4: there's people that love Christmas, but like they know they
Speaker 4: can't reach my level because I wish it was Christmas
Speaker 4: season every day. I mean, that would be great for me.
Speaker 4: But I'm kind of getting into Halloween more this year
Speaker 4: than I ever have, and it's got me excited for Thursday.
Speaker 4: I'm also excited for the next few hours because obviously
Speaker 4: there's a lot to get into. I have a theory
Speaker 4: on what happened in Boston on Friday night that could be,
Speaker 4: you know, something we look back on at the end
Speaker 4: of the season. Wishful thinking, of course, but like it
Speaker 4: might have been. And I'll explain why. It might have
Speaker 4: been a twenty to nothing deficit on the road at
Speaker 4: Boston College, when you felt like the season was crumbling
Speaker 4: and slipping away right before our eyes, it might have
Speaker 4: been then, Like I don't know where you were, if
Speaker 4: you were watching it at home, maybe it'd made the
Speaker 4: trip to Boston. I was out watching the first half
Speaker 4: with family, having dinner, and like I think we all
Speaker 4: collectively as the fan base, felt like, okay, yeah, not
Speaker 4: only has this season been pretty underwhelming, Like they're not
Speaker 4: twenty to nothing at Boston College and this thing might
Speaker 4: end up being like really, really bad. But somehow they
Speaker 4: bounced back and in the end they did what they
Speaker 4: were supposed to do. They beat a team but didn't cover,
Speaker 4: so again they won. But still they showed us that
Speaker 4: they've got a pretty consistent identity. But the way in
Speaker 4: which they pulled that off. I think could could end
Speaker 4: up being I guess I should say, I hope it
Speaker 4: ends up being what we look back on and say, Okay,
Speaker 4: it looked pretty scary there for a little while. It
Speaker 4: looked like it was about to combust, and then sure
Speaker 4: enough they turn it around, and no bigger opportunity for
Speaker 4: them to go out and show that they did learn
Speaker 4: a lot from the mistakes they've made up to this
Speaker 4: point when they take on Clemson at their place on
Speaker 4: Saturday night. So we'll certainly talk about that throughout the week.
Speaker 4: But anyways, hopefully everybody had themselves a good weekend. You know,
Speaker 4: I thought about it on the way in because I
Speaker 4: was texting my wife after I was I was at
Speaker 4: the house getting ready, you know, just making sure I've
Speaker 4: got I tried to clean up the house as best
Speaker 4: I can John before I leave, just so when she
Speaker 4: comes home from work, you know, if the kids are
Speaker 4: driving her crazy and I'm not home yet, that you know,
Speaker 4: she'll at least walk into a house that's been cleaned
Speaker 4: a little bit. I mean, I'm not I'm not on
Speaker 4: the I'm not mopping the floors, I'm not cleaning the toilets.
Speaker 2: But you know you did something though, yeah, I made
Speaker 2: the same thing sometimes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and here's what Here's what I feel
Speaker 4: like is is not probably not just my wife, but
Speaker 4: it's probably a lot of women, and maybe it's even
Speaker 4: your wife as well. They certainly appreciate that we did
Speaker 4: try to clean up a little bit, straighten up to
Speaker 4: where the house looks more presentable, but like they also
Speaker 4: know that we probably didn't do it in a way
Speaker 4: that they would do it if they were actually gonna,
Speaker 4: you know, clean the house. Yeah, so they appreciated. And
Speaker 4: my wife, for the most part, has restrained from like, well,
Speaker 4: why didn't you do this, Why didn't you do this?
Speaker 4: Or why why did you put the this here? She
Speaker 4: now just is like, oh, thanks, honey, because because then
Speaker 4: you know, at least I'm trying. But I was, uh,
Speaker 4: I was getting everything straightened up before I left, and
Speaker 4: I just text her was like I had a great weekend,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know, I didn't tell her this,
Speaker 4: but I'm like, you know what, I might talk about
Speaker 4: my weekend on the show, rarely ever do that. And
Speaker 4: then I realized, like, what I did this weekend that
Speaker 4: made it a really really awesome, fun weekend. For me,
Speaker 4: it would probably not make it, wouldn't hit, wouldn't register
Speaker 4: to anybody as far as why that's fun, because I'm
Speaker 4: old and washed. Like what you guys probably do is fun,
Speaker 4: you know, for fun, maybe hanging out, partying, doing Halloween stuff,
Speaker 4: you know, nightlife, that kind of stuff. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: that's not really my life anymore. But you know, I
Speaker 4: guess I'm just old and washed. I mean, Friday after
Speaker 4: the show, and by the way, big thanks to Alex R.
Speaker 4: White and his team for having us out on Friday,
Speaker 4: had a good show. He believed in the power of positivity.
Speaker 4: He was very confident louis was going to be able
Speaker 4: to come out, play well and get a win, and
Speaker 4: he was very wrong in the beginning, and then he
Speaker 4: ended up being right. So shout out to him for
Speaker 4: giving me a little more positive vibes because I felt like,
Speaker 4: I felt like Louisville could play poorly and still win,
Speaker 4: and I guess you could say they technically did when
Speaker 4: you consider the beginning of the game. But it was
Speaker 4: nice to see him get a victory. But after that,
Speaker 4: I made a trip over to is it the Hill
Speaker 4: Hillcrest Avenue? You know what you know much about that area, John.
Speaker 2: No, not really.
Speaker 4: It's and I wish I and I could probably do
Speaker 4: a little research. But it's an area of Louisville where
Speaker 4: if you live, like on Hillcrest Avenue. I think it's
Speaker 4: like on the corner of and I'm not super familiar
Speaker 4: with the area over there, but close to old or
Speaker 4: do I sound like any No, I don't think it's
Speaker 4: close to Oldham County, but it's it's like Lexington Road
Speaker 4: and Hillcrest Avenue they have Yeah, if you just go
Speaker 4: to if you look up Halloween on Hillcrest, it's got
Speaker 4: its own Facebook page and it's it's a really nice street.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's probably one of the nicer areas of
Speaker 4: Louisville as far as just you know, it's just got
Speaker 4: an awesome vibe to it and older houses but they're
Speaker 4: all really nice, kind of classics if you will. But yeah,
Speaker 4: Hill chrestin Frankfort Avenue is the general area, and like
Speaker 4: if you live there, I don't know if you have
Speaker 4: something in like the hoa, if it's in some kind
Speaker 4: of a contract, but like everybody that lives there does
Speaker 4: it really big for Halloween, Like they've got all kinds
Speaker 4: of awesome stuff set up, So we did that on Friday,
Speaker 4: took the kids for a little while, they got to
Speaker 4: see some cool spooky stuff, and then of course, you know,
Speaker 4: the game Friday night, and yes on Saturday, my son
Speaker 4: had had his football game, which was a lot of fun,
Speaker 4: and then in the evening we went to my parents' house,
Speaker 4: my mom and my stepdad, they had a little Halloween
Speaker 4: get together and he lives, well, they live in an
Speaker 4: area where they've got a lot of property behind the
Speaker 4: house and just kind of a big open field, but
Speaker 4: there's also a little trail that's back there, and they
Speaker 4: made what was called us well, I mean what we
Speaker 4: called it a spooky trail, and it had all kinds
Speaker 4: of like cool Halloween stuff, and man, the kids loved it.
Speaker 4: So we went through that a bunch, hung out yesterday,
Speaker 4: took my family to Churchill Downs for some obvious day racing,
Speaker 4: but also they had their trunk retreats. So really it
Speaker 4: was an awesome family weekend where I did a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff with my kids, really got in the Halloween spirit,
Speaker 4: and you know, I'm feeling like this is one of
Speaker 4: the best weekends I've had in a long time. And
Speaker 4: then it hit me, well, one, you don't really live
Speaker 4: that much of an exciting life, Nick. There's probably not
Speaker 4: many people that would hear of your weekend shenanigans and say, Man,
Speaker 4: this guy's living the life. This guy's got it made.
Speaker 4: And I feel like I do, but others probably don't
Speaker 4: see it that way, and that's totally fine. So that
Speaker 4: was one of the observations when I think, like, man,
Speaker 4: what a great weekend. You know what else was an
Speaker 4: observation it shouldn't be this way, because you know, there
Speaker 4: are more important things than sports, but like, life's better
Speaker 4: when your team doesn't lose, and Louisville didn't lose and
Speaker 4: lost more games this year than you know, some people
Speaker 4: thought they lose all year, and they were down twenty
Speaker 4: to oven and then they came back and won. So, like,
Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, had they just been in
Speaker 4: it in a rock fight with Boston College all throughout
Speaker 4: and then they ended up, you know, just holding on
Speaker 4: to get a win, and it was a back and
Speaker 4: forth game where neither team looked very good, but somebody
Speaker 4: had to win. I mean, you'd still prefer that over
Speaker 4: a loss. But I really think the way the thing
Speaker 4: played out was awesome for everybody involved. Again, from a
Speaker 4: fan standpoint, I thought it was over, like I thought
Speaker 4: the season was done. I thought we were dead, and
Speaker 4: then we rose from the dead and really dominated that
Speaker 4: game after getting down twenty to nothing. And that's why
Speaker 4: I would have been so demoralizing if they would have
Speaker 4: somehow not been able to hold on to win. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if I would have, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean I said this as a joke, and it
Speaker 4: is a joke, and it's really not that funny, but
Speaker 4: it just popped back in my head as I'm going
Speaker 4: back to the end of that game as I'm watching,
Speaker 4: you know, because it was awesome to see them come
Speaker 4: from behind, especially you know, the circumstances. But whenever Jeff
Speaker 4: decided to throw the ball there on third down and
Speaker 4: stop the clock and then give it back to Boston College,
Speaker 4: just giving them more time and more more snaps to
Speaker 4: essentially break our hearts. I mean, I told myself, and
Speaker 4: I think I'd said it on the postgame show, if
Speaker 4: he would have if they would have lost that game
Speaker 4: because Boston College was able to get a few more
Speaker 4: plays in because of the drop pass, which of course
Speaker 4: stopped the clock. I would have needed a few minutes
Speaker 4: before we went live on the air, because I don't
Speaker 4: know if I'd have been able to do much of
Speaker 4: anything without cursing. But they didn't. You know, they were
Speaker 4: able to hold on and win, and that was great, So,
Speaker 4: you know, it was scary for a while. It was
Speaker 4: sad for a little while. There was a lot of
Speaker 4: text messages that I was going back and forth with
Speaker 4: people about to where you know, like Jeff's interview he did,
Speaker 4: I think think it was after the first quarter, and
Speaker 4: maybe it was in the first quarter, but he did
Speaker 4: one of those interviews during the game that you know,
Speaker 4: they end up showing to you after they come back
Speaker 4: from break, and I mean his face said it all.
Speaker 4: Like the game was going really poorly. You saw Jeff's
Speaker 4: face and like it just seemed as if this thing
Speaker 4: was crumbling and everybody knew it, included him. And I
Speaker 4: thought he said something earlier today in his press conference
Speaker 4: that was you know, interesting, you know, as far as
Speaker 4: his philosophy when it comes to like how do you
Speaker 4: try to you know, how do you get through to
Speaker 4: the and I'm paraphrasing, I'm not sure. I think it
Speaker 4: was Alexis with the Courier Journal that asked the question.
Speaker 4: And I'm paraphrasing here, so don't you know if I
Speaker 4: if I throw it out there and it don't make
Speaker 4: a whole lot of sense, don't put that on her.
Speaker 4: It's just me, you know, not remembering exactly word for
Speaker 4: word what she said, because I'm sure she's much much more,
Speaker 4: much more well spoken than I am. But the question
Speaker 4: was like, how do you or I'm sorry it was
Speaker 4: it was Russ Brown. I think you might have asked it,
Speaker 4: but somebody asked about the message at halftime and basically
Speaker 4: said like, how do you balance if you're going to
Speaker 4: you know, raise hell or not? And Jeff kind of
Speaker 4: laughed and he was like, you know, well, I've I've
Speaker 4: done a whole lot of a whole lot of hell
Speaker 4: raising this year, and I don't. I don't And I
Speaker 4: didn't get the sense and how he described it almost
Speaker 4: because it was almost like, as he was talking to
Speaker 4: this press conference earlier today, it was almost as if
Speaker 4: like that moment was kind of coming back to him
Speaker 4: as well. And you can to me, it just seemed
Speaker 4: as if he didn't really remember if it was a
Speaker 4: planned thing, to not, but it sounds like halftime was
Speaker 4: actually kind of calm and it worked. You know, it worked.
Speaker 4: So I mean, again, the result itself is not anything
Speaker 4: that we should be overall, you know, celebrating, and you
Speaker 4: should always feel good if your team wins, especially when
Speaker 4: it looked as if they were potentially going to get
Speaker 4: blown out and buy a bad team on the road.
Speaker 4: But how they did it and really what they had
Speaker 4: to do again, I think it could be the building
Speaker 4: block for this team to clean some things up, stop
Speaker 4: playing sloppy football, and finish this season strong. And I really,
Speaker 4: you know, get the sense that those guys for the
Speaker 4: first time proved something to themselves in a major way.
Speaker 4: And again it's not because they beat Boston College at
Speaker 4: their place when they were favored by a touchdown. It's because,
Speaker 4: you know, they really did have to manufacture some momentum
Speaker 4: on there, and there was nowhere near the amount of
Speaker 4: fans there as is what it sounded like when I
Speaker 4: was on my way back home from from from dinner
Speaker 4: at halftime, if we left dinner, went back home and
Speaker 4: I was listening as the third quarter had started, and
Speaker 4: I was listening to Paul Rodgers and he you know,
Speaker 4: I don't get that. I don't listen to them to
Speaker 4: many games very often. And you know, Paul does a
Speaker 4: great job. We're lucky to have him. And I think
Speaker 4: that crew they've got this year doing football, the trio
Speaker 4: of Craig, Jody and Paul, I mean, they're phenomenal. But
Speaker 4: I was listening to the beginning of the third quarter
Speaker 4: in a little bit at the end of the of
Speaker 4: the halftime update, and Paul made a comment about how,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, there's some people here tonight, but man,
Speaker 4: the fake piped in crowd noise is borderline obnoxious. Which
Speaker 4: that's why a lot of times they don't show a
Speaker 4: full panned crowd at a game because they don't want
Speaker 4: to make a network partner look bad, right like the
Speaker 4: ACC and even the SEC like they're in bed with ESPN.
Speaker 4: So it's not a good look if you're just going
Speaker 4: to make sure all your shots are an empty stadium.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, like it was an empty stadium for the
Speaker 4: most part. It's cold, you're on the road, you're down
Speaker 4: twenty to nothing, like you've got to dig deep all
Speaker 4: on your own, Like there's no crowd on your end
Speaker 4: that's going to build you up, you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: you know, start twenty points in the hole and find
Speaker 4: a way to win this game. And did that. And
Speaker 4: again I don't think they should be feeling cocky as
Speaker 4: if they've shown that there's some great team. But I
Speaker 4: think internally there's a lot that you can take from
Speaker 4: what they ended up having to do the rest of
Speaker 4: that because again I hate giving people credit, and I
Speaker 4: said this on the postgame show, there's you know, we
Speaker 4: got to find a better word than credit, like somewhere
Speaker 4: where you're saying, you know, credit and praise just doesn't
Speaker 4: seem to fit. But you shouldn't get credit for not quitting,
Speaker 4: like for actually trying. Should not be something well, hey,
Speaker 4: that they try, Like usually that's what you throw out
Speaker 4: there when you realize there's no other compliment to make. Well,
Speaker 4: at least they're trying, but like you should always try.
Speaker 4: So again I hate giving them credit for not mailing
Speaker 4: it in, but man, it would have been so easy.
Speaker 4: It would have been like human nature for them to
Speaker 4: just you know, realize, hey, we're down twenty to nothing.
Speaker 4: We all know this season has been unsuccessful as far
Speaker 4: as where we thought we'd be at this time, and
Speaker 4: these guys probably know it's on them, right. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm sure they're upset about some of the bad officiating
Speaker 4: that's happened from time to time. I'm sure they've been
Speaker 4: unhappy with some play calls at times, but like they
Speaker 4: have to know, especially when you've got a group of
Speaker 4: veterans that have played so much football because of the portal,
Speaker 4: like they know they had underwhelmed, and you got yourself
Speaker 4: in a big hole. One of your top playmakers decided
Speaker 4: to opt out midweek, You've already got some other guys injured,
Speaker 4: like it would have been I think very normal, and
Speaker 4: dare I say, the expectation for most to kind of
Speaker 4: just mail it in there. So again, it's kind of tricky.
Speaker 4: I'm balancing it as best I can because I don't
Speaker 4: want to say, well, hey, at least they didn't quit
Speaker 4: when they could have. But like I think it would
Speaker 4: have been a lot easier to do than most people realize,
Speaker 4: even if they told themselves we're not going to I
Speaker 4: think you start to go through the motions. You hear
Speaker 4: me say this all the time. The human element within
Speaker 4: sports is way more powerful than I feel like most
Speaker 4: people give it credit for. So the fact that they
Speaker 4: did climb out of a hole, come back and win.
Speaker 4: I mean it gives them a chance to grasp on
Speaker 4: to not only momentum if you want to call it that.
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe it's momentum they have internally, but they
Speaker 4: I think they prove something to themselves with how they
Speaker 4: were able to come back and win, and no better
Speaker 4: time than now to get it turned around. And as
Speaker 4: far as learning, if in fact there was a whole
Speaker 4: lot of value to take with you out of Boston,
Speaker 4: we'll find out on Saturday, because again, they're gonna play Clemson,
Speaker 4: a team they've never beat before, a team that you know,
Speaker 4: has really dominated this league for the most part since
Speaker 4: the level has been in it, and there's gonna be
Speaker 4: a big challenge there. They're eleven point underdogs, and I
Speaker 4: can't tell you right now that I think they're gonna win,
Speaker 4: but I do. I do feel like this this team.
Speaker 4: You know what, have you heard a lot of fans
Speaker 4: say for lack of a better well not only for
Speaker 4: a lack of like a better description, but really because
Speaker 4: nobody can quite pinpoint why they've just had the struggles
Speaker 4: they've had this year and why they've been sloppy they
Speaker 4: just something's off. Like I remember watching the Miami game.
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like every game this year, even
Speaker 4: games when they've won, like the Virginia game, like I
Speaker 4: felt it. I've heard fans say it, something's just off. Well,
Speaker 4: maybe whatever happened on Friday night in Boston, they were
Speaker 4: able to kind of come together, and now they're going
Speaker 4: to be more in sync. And look, they could play
Speaker 4: much better and still lose to Clemson. To Clemson because
Speaker 4: Clemson's obviously a good team that's playing really good football
Speaker 4: right now. Rarely do teams go into Death Valley and
Speaker 4: leave with a victory. But I do love knowing that, Hey,
Speaker 4: it was, it was almost over, and then now you
Speaker 4: did find a way to win. You clawed back for
Speaker 4: an exciting finish, and now you get to go see
Speaker 4: what you're made of. I mean, the point still needs
Speaker 4: to be to be made about Louisville's current season as
Speaker 4: of now. I mean, they did move to five and three,
Speaker 4: and they are four and two or two. I think
Speaker 4: they're two. What are they? They got four games left? So
Speaker 4: are they three? Yeah, they're three and two in the ACC.
Speaker 4: So of the three teams that have beat you, all
Speaker 4: of them are still playing really really good football right now,
Speaker 4: and they're still top twenty teams. That doesn't mean Louisville,
Speaker 4: you know, can just act like those losses didn't happen.
Speaker 4: But you've had three chances to beat good teams and
Speaker 4: you were there and you just couldn't get it done
Speaker 4: for various reasons.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: I feel like, to be honest with you, a win
Speaker 4: at Notre Dame would have been the most impressive, But
Speaker 4: that's the one. I feel like you really shot yourselves
Speaker 4: in the foot repeatedly, and then SMU, you know, they
Speaker 4: just came in and got you. I think Louisville was
Speaker 4: not in a good place at that time, and obviously,
Speaker 4: you know, if you'd had a little bit of a
Speaker 4: better plan defensively, you still probably would have given up
Speaker 4: a lot of yards because that SMU offense is pretty
Speaker 4: damn good. But you know, you eliminate maybe one of
Speaker 4: those drives from happening so effortlessly on the first two possessions,
Speaker 4: then maybe you're you're able to ride some momentum in
Speaker 4: the second half and win that game. And then obviously Miami,
Speaker 4: I mean, you made some mistakes, but I think that
Speaker 4: you just lost that game because you know, they were
Speaker 4: better than you. So some of the losses have been
Speaker 4: kind of demoralizing the way in which they've played out.
Speaker 4: But the result itself isn't something that means all we
Speaker 4: need to panic something's wrong, And that's what I think
Speaker 4: is different about Boston. Yeah, the result itself is whatever, Like,
Speaker 4: it's not that big of a deal on a positive side,
Speaker 4: just like losing to Notre Dame SMU and Miami, you
Speaker 4: don't ever want to lose. But it's not like people
Speaker 4: look at those losses and say, well, that means Louis
Speaker 4: was a fraud. So we've kind of had a little
Speaker 4: bit of a role reversal here to where, hey, maybe
Speaker 4: a win that really, you know, in the eyes of outsiders,
Speaker 4: isn't that impressive because we were down twenty to nothing
Speaker 4: and you know, beat a Boston college team and didn't cover.
Speaker 4: But again, it's not about the overall result. It's about
Speaker 4: how it all happened. And that's again all this is
Speaker 4: wishful thinking on my end because I'd love nothing more
Speaker 4: to see this team come out and and you know,
Speaker 4: put together their first complete game where not they're not perfect,
Speaker 4: but you know, the mistakes aren't as crucial and they
Speaker 4: you know, can compete with a really good team. So
Speaker 4: we got you know, six days before, five days I
Speaker 4: should say, before we get to game day. But I'm
Speaker 4: very excited, to be honest with you, and I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't. And again, I think if Louisa would have been,
Speaker 4: Louisa would have just held on and won a rock fight.
Speaker 4: I think I kind of would have, you know, not
Speaker 4: been as excited. And again it's not that I think,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not ready to say they're going to win.
Speaker 4: I probably won't do that or even say they're gonna lose,
Speaker 4: because none of us know until we will get there
Speaker 4: on Saturday. But I think the momentum, the vibe, whatever
Speaker 4: you want to call it, whatever word you want to use,
Speaker 4: I think it's in a better spot than I would
Speaker 4: have anticipated. And that's a good thing. All right. Some
Speaker 4: of the things we'll get into throughout the afternoon here. Obviously,
Speaker 4: we've got some basketball tonight, Louisville taken on Spaulding, another
Speaker 4: exhibition game. We will have another post game show. Tip
Speaker 4: Off is at seven o'clock, and I would imagine you're
Speaker 4: going to see a lot of what you saw last Monday,
Speaker 4: when they played young Harris. This is a Division three
Speaker 4: team in Spaulding, and I you know, I don't. I
Speaker 4: don't know a whole lot about their program as of now,
Speaker 4: like meeting as of you know, the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: But this is a Division three team, meaning these are
Speaker 4: not scholarship players. So I mean no disrespect to Spaulding.
Speaker 4: I know coach both coach Grays have done a great
Speaker 4: job over there, and they're they I think they've been
Speaker 4: really competitive at D three level. I think they've actually
Speaker 4: been better at the D three level than they were
Speaker 4: when they were in AI for a long time. But
Speaker 4: as a long winded way of me saying like, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't be shocked if Louisville wins this game about eighty tonight. Now,
Speaker 4: I highly doubt that happens because again it's just hard
Speaker 4: to envision a game playing out that way. But I
Speaker 4: think with the way Louisville wants to play and knowing
Speaker 4: that these guys, these players are you know, Division three athletes,
Speaker 4: not Division two, which is the next best level outside
Speaker 4: of D one, who you played last week and you
Speaker 4: won by what fifty or something, So I doubt should
Speaker 4: you embarrass them in a major way. But like this
Speaker 4: thing could get ugly. Loisvill's never played a program of
Speaker 4: this caliber an exhibition play that I know of. You know,
Speaker 4: usually when you play Wesleyan, I mean Bellerman before they
Speaker 4: were before they were D one, they were D two,
Speaker 4: I mean Shamanad. Weren't they an exhibition opponent a couple
Speaker 4: years ago?
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're D two, So so was Leno Ryans. So
Speaker 4: like D two is usually who you end up. And
Speaker 4: you will occasionally get an NAI A team like Pikeville
Speaker 4: and Georgetown College. They have really good NAI programs over
Speaker 4: the years, and and they if they at times have
Speaker 4: gotten a chance to play exhibition games against the N
Speaker 4: state schools like Louisville and Kentucky. But Division three I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean maybe Simmons College, which I'm not even sure
Speaker 4: what level they are. So you know it's gonna be fun,
Speaker 4: you know. I thought to myself, well, man, I wish
Speaker 4: I could see him get challenged because I'm jealous. John
Speaker 4: got to see his Hoosier's knock off Tennessee yesterday in
Speaker 4: a charity exhibition game.
Speaker 2: On the road.
Speaker 4: Caliperry beat the hell out of Kansas's team on Friday night,
Speaker 4: which UK fans canna act like you didn't see that
Speaker 4: you game, act like y'all.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody for Kansas played. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Just first I'm hearing about it. No, you saw it.
Speaker 4: You saw Cal dominate that exhibition game. Did they do
Speaker 4: the stoppages the way that? I don't know? All I
Speaker 4: knows they kept scoring. It was a lot to a
Speaker 4: little okay, And again Kansas with that was without a
Speaker 4: Hunter Dickinson and at least one other notable player, maybe more,
Speaker 4: I don't know. But anyways, I was getting jealous of
Speaker 4: these exhibitions because you're getting a chance to see like
Speaker 4: there's no like you're gonna you're gonna be discouraged if
Speaker 4: your team loses, but you also know that, like you know,
Speaker 4: it doesn't count. So I would just love to see
Speaker 4: where Louisville stands against, you know, a legitimate team, and
Speaker 4: they're certainly not gonna get that tonight. But as I
Speaker 4: thought about that earlier, and I was like, well man,
Speaker 4: another night where we watched them kill somebody, that'll be fun.
Speaker 4: But then I'm like, nope, you set up a bit.
Speaker 4: You better cheer up. You better realize where you were
Speaker 4: a year ago. You better realize you used to lose
Speaker 4: these games, You ungrateful piece of garbage. I felt like
Speaker 4: a piece of garbage for a moment there, because I'm like,
Speaker 4: what is wrong with you? If we played Spalding every
Speaker 4: game for thirty games of the season, I wish I
Speaker 4: should enjoy that and appreciate that we're in this position
Speaker 4: and not the you know, the position we were in
Speaker 4: last year, in the year before. So hell yeah, Spaulding
Speaker 4: tonight might beat them by one hundred and we're going
Speaker 4: to be fired up and ready. On the Kentucky side.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 4: Love seeing them crumble and continue to have like one
Speaker 4: of the most disappointing seasons of any I mean, like
Speaker 4: of the power for there's still what four games left,
Speaker 4: but like Kentucky right now, it's got to be up.
Speaker 4: There's one of the most disappointing teams as far as
Speaker 4: like nobody was expecting to be great, but like they're
Speaker 4: they're they're the worst team in the in the in
Speaker 4: the SEC outside of Mississippi State. I mean they are,
Speaker 4: Like that's crazy, nobody thought that would be the case.
Speaker 4: And the worse they get in the closer we get
Speaker 4: to the end of November, the more I think, well,
Speaker 4: are we going to be in that position again where
Speaker 4: it's like, well, hey, if if, if you don't get
Speaker 4: them this year? I mean, like, do we need to
Speaker 4: just cancel the series like that? I don't want to
Speaker 4: go there, but like, kind I'm kind of there to
Speaker 4: be honest with you, because Kentucky looks really bad and
Speaker 4: it's only gonna get worse. They got to go to
Speaker 4: Tennessee this weekend, and then they got Murray, then they
Speaker 4: go to Texas. I mean, it could be bad by
Speaker 4: the time we get to that Louisville game, which you
Speaker 4: know typically would be all hell yeah, but if it
Speaker 4: actually makes me more scared to be honest with you,
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Speaker 4: all right, so I mentioned the charity exhibition scrimmages that
Speaker 4: are going on in college basketball, and I actually haven't
Speaker 4: watched any of them. Actually, no, I take that back.
Speaker 4: There was one that was on I think I might
Speaker 4: have been last week of the week before Carolina and
Speaker 4: Memphis played, and I watched a little bit of that
Speaker 4: and I wasn't super impressed with it with either team.
Speaker 4: But again, it was also a reminder that usually good
Speaker 4: teams are not in a position to where you know,
Speaker 4: they're playing other good teams this early in not only
Speaker 4: the season because the season hasn't started yet, but like
Speaker 4: usually I mean, especially if that I mean some of
Speaker 4: these scrimmages took place within the last two weeks, which
Speaker 4: again is super early. I mean we're talking like right
Speaker 4: as soon as practice is allowed to happen, seemingly. So, John,
Speaker 4: you said, Tennessee and Indiana yesterday, both of them shot
Speaker 4: pretty poorly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Indiana didn't didn't hit a three pointer until the
Speaker 3: second half. Tennessee looked like they were looking for offense
Speaker 3: without Dalton connect and both teams just took a while
Speaker 3: to kind of figure out really what they were trying
Speaker 3: to do. And you know, thankfully from my perspective, Indiana
Speaker 3: was able to figure it out, and I'd say the
Speaker 3: biggest was to Squad sixty six to sixty two.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it was a close, close game, low scoring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Indiana didn't really take a lead definitively until late
Speaker 3: in the second half.
Speaker 4: Either was it neck and neck or were they coming
Speaker 4: from behind.
Speaker 3: So Tennessee was always up by two or three points.
Speaker 3: Indiana would like cut the lead, they go back up
Speaker 3: a few more points, and then Indiana finally was able
Speaker 3: to break that barrier and take the lead for good,
Speaker 3: and at least I think it was for good Indiana.
Speaker 3: Malik Renew was a good X factor towards the end
Speaker 3: for Indiana. And then overall, when it comes to somebody
Speaker 3: who just had a really good performance was Miles Rice,
Speaker 3: the transfer from Washington State, the point guard. He looked
Speaker 3: really good in Indiana's first outing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a veteran point guard from the portal
Speaker 4: that has played enough, has talent and has been productive.
Speaker 4: Like that's really all that Mike Woodson needed last year,
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, Yes, h So the fact
Speaker 4: that he's got you know, both those teams would probably
Speaker 4: end up being pretty good. I mean, I would assume so,
Speaker 4: but it sounds like neither side really felt great about
Speaker 4: what they saw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the best thing that I took away
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, you found a way to win on
Speaker 3: the road, and yeah it was it was an exhibition environment,
Speaker 3: like there wasn't There were times where the Tennessee crowd
Speaker 3: was getting into it, but at the same time, there
Speaker 3: were times where it felt like it was a little sleepy.
Speaker 3: But also there wasn't a lot of fireworks in the
Speaker 3: game to really be excited about. In general, when a
Speaker 3: lot of teams or a lot of players are missing
Speaker 3: show and it's just kind of ugly.
Speaker 4: Was it on ESPN's like the streams was on the
Speaker 4: SEC okay, so then it should be available. I may
Speaker 4: go back and watch it on demand. It should still
Speaker 4: be there. If it was on the ESPN SEC network stream,
Speaker 4: I would imagine it's still there. But because Louis is
Speaker 4: gonna play both those teams pretty early and obviously Tennessee
Speaker 4: will be a big opportunity, I don't care if we
Speaker 4: end up getting to the end of the year in Tennessee. Stinks,
Speaker 4: but because all I know is that whenever they do
Speaker 4: play them in a couple of weeks, less than two weeks.
Speaker 4: By the way, they're going to still be ranked in
Speaker 4: the top fifteen at that time. And if Louisville can
Speaker 4: somehow start their season with game number two getting a huge,
Speaker 4: huge victory, that would be that'd be amazing. So I
Speaker 4: may go back in. And by the way, for those
Speaker 4: who don't know that, that's going to be a wide out,
Speaker 4: that's Louisville's last bye week in football. So you'll play
Speaker 4: Saturday afternoon at the Young Center, and it is going
Speaker 4: to be a wide out, and I'm hoping that there
Speaker 4: is a huge crowd there. Now exhibition games, I didn't
Speaker 4: see this one, and I'm not sure if it's available
Speaker 4: to watch, and it probably wouldn't be worth watching as
Speaker 4: far as like competitiveness. But did you see what Duke
Speaker 4: did to Arizona State? Beat him by over fifty points?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 4: And Arizona State was not good last year. And I
Speaker 4: know that Bobby Hurley is not is not somebody that
Speaker 4: like is viewed to be anywhere near as good of
Speaker 4: a coach as his brother is. But you know, they
Speaker 4: got some decent talent on that team. I mean they
Speaker 4: got they just brought in Jaden Quainton's the five star
Speaker 4: freshman that a lot of people thought was, you know,
Speaker 4: one of the best freshmen in the country not named
Speaker 4: you know, Cooper Flag. So I don't know Duke. I
Speaker 4: think Duke's got a chance this year, and I've been
Speaker 4: wrong about him for the last like three years. Like
Speaker 4: I felt like Duke has had rosters in recent years
Speaker 4: and it's not just trust me, it's not just Shire.
Speaker 4: Even towards the end with Coach K, like I remember
Speaker 4: thinking like, look, you guys should be better, Like why
Speaker 4: are you not better? Like you're good, but like there's
Speaker 4: no reason, like you should be middle of the pack
Speaker 4: in your league or whatever. So I kind of feel
Speaker 4: like they've gotten the benefit of it out because one
Speaker 4: coach K seemed to always get a pass for having
Speaker 4: a loaded team that falls short of expectations, doesn't make
Speaker 4: a deep run of the tournament. He did, We'll put
Speaker 4: it this way, he got to pass more so than others. Now,
Speaker 4: for those who used to claim, well, what are you well,
Speaker 4: Coach K doesn't have you know, multiple games, like what
Speaker 4: is it Saint Peter's in Oakland? I mean he did
Speaker 4: have that loss to who was it that beat him
Speaker 4: Lee High got him once or no, who did Lee
Speaker 4: High get Maybe it was Lee High got Duke. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Duke got Lee High and then at Mercer. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So like they I guess they have
Speaker 4: had him, but nonetheless, like this may be the year
Speaker 4: where Duke ends up just having so much talent that is,
Speaker 4: you know, NBA type talent that they're not going to
Speaker 4: go undefeed it, but like maybe they do end up
Speaker 4: being like the team that throughout the year you're saying, Okay,
Speaker 4: we know they've taken a loss in December and they
Speaker 4: slipped up and lost one in early February, but make
Speaker 4: no mistake about it, when they're playing their best, there's
Speaker 4: nobody that's better than them. We haven't had that in
Speaker 4: college basketball in a long time. I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: like I need that or want that, but it does
Speaker 4: bring more attention to college basketball that you otherwise wouldn't get.
Speaker 4: If there's a team that has a bunch of future
Speaker 4: NBA guys on it that everybody wants to see an
Speaker 4: action and Cooper flag of course is I mean, there's
Speaker 4: people that think he could be playing in the NBA
Speaker 4: right now and starting and that's you know, that's that
Speaker 4: sounds a little crazy, But again, the hype for him,
Speaker 4: He's entering the college game with more hype and expectation
Speaker 4: than any freshman. Again, I was gonna say since Zion,
Speaker 4: but people forget Zion when the season started. Zion's hype
Speaker 4: and real buzz came when he was like a junior
Speaker 4: and senior in high school. By the time Zion played
Speaker 4: his first game at Duke, just about everybody thought he
Speaker 4: was the third best freshman on his team because of RJ.
Speaker 4: Barrett and Cam Reddish, and then they realized, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, despite him maybe not looking I mean, he's
Speaker 4: I mean, Zion was a bigger guy, right. There was
Speaker 4: a lot of jokes about his weight, but like good
Speaker 4: Luck Garden him, a guy that does carry around that
Speaker 4: much weight shouldn't be able to move as quickly as
Speaker 4: he does and bounce off the ground as high as
Speaker 4: he does. So anyways, with Cooper Flag, I mean, he's
Speaker 4: obviously a guy that is probably going to be the
Speaker 4: National Player of the Year this year. But there's also
Speaker 4: a guy on their team named con Canoople and I'm
Speaker 4: probably saying that incorrectly. He's also a freshman.
Speaker 3: Let's see here, Conkinipple freshman more.
Speaker 4: Con Canipple would have never cannipple. It's k n U
Speaker 4: E P P e L. But I do like how
Speaker 4: they do this. Let me see if it's the same
Speaker 4: voice for this guy Leek Brown, Okay, Virginia. So that's awesome.
Speaker 4: So the Duke website they actually have the players themselves
Speaker 4: telling you how to say their name. That's the best
Speaker 4: way to do it, so con Canoople. So now there's
Speaker 4: no or's the Cannipple. I just I just don't want
Speaker 4: to say nipple on the radio because it feels it feels,
Speaker 4: it feels off like I shouldn't be saying that. But
Speaker 4: you know, nobody's got nipples. You could say nipples.
Speaker 2: Conkinipple's freshman, he's Concinipple.
Speaker 4: But apparently he bawled out. And there's already been some
Speaker 4: people claiming, like, yeah, nobody's actually realizing how special this
Speaker 4: freshman is because there's so much hype about Cooper Flag,
Speaker 4: which would make a lot of sense, because again, Cooper Flag,
Speaker 4: if you're not I mean if you if you're somebody
Speaker 4: doesn't really pay a whole lot of attention to college
Speaker 4: basketball in the off season, recruiting that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: Then maybe you don't even know who I'm talking about,
Speaker 4: but you could pay at ten just a little bit.
Speaker 4: And you've probably been hearing about this guy for the
Speaker 4: last two years and he's about to play is one
Speaker 4: and only season in college basketball for Duke. And again,
Speaker 4: one of the CBS Sports Candid Coaches Corner thing or
Speaker 4: Candid Coaches series that they do one of the questions
Speaker 4: you know they do every year is who are the
Speaker 4: best players in America? And I think by like a
Speaker 4: seventy percent vote, like coaches college high level college basketball
Speaker 4: coaches said that they think Cooper Flag is the best
Speaker 4: player in college basketball. And he's had to play a
Speaker 4: game yet. So anyways, Duke beating Arizona State by that much,
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's a it's an exhibition, charity scrimmage
Speaker 4: type situation, and Arizona State's not expected to be good,
Speaker 4: I mean at least not you know, Duke level good.
Speaker 4: But to beat anybody by fifty that you know, we're
Speaker 4: talking to power four team. We're not talking about you
Speaker 4: know Spaulding, who's in town to night, Well, I guess
Speaker 4: they live in town. They're not intown they're just making
Speaker 4: a quick trip up the road essentially to take on
Speaker 4: Louisll And again we will have postgame coverage tonight nine o'clock,
Speaker 4: probably going to be similar to last last week's postgame show,
Speaker 4: just you know, because even though we got it last
Speaker 4: week right the first time, watching this new era of basketball,
Speaker 4: Pat Kelsey coaching the squad, clearly seeing their identity, seeing
Speaker 4: that they are seemingly a reflection of that guy coaching
Speaker 4: them when they're on the floor, which is what you want.
Speaker 4: Like it was awesome to see. Like again, wasn't really competitive.
Speaker 4: You just drained threes and won by a bunch of points.
Speaker 4: But if that's what happens against tonight, which I think
Speaker 4: it will, I think we're going to be feeling the
Speaker 4: same way because again, you know, hopefully, like myself, you
Speaker 4: guys won't take this stuff for granted because we we
Speaker 4: went through a couple of years when you had to
Speaker 4: actually worry about winning these exhibition games and being happy.
Speaker 4: Oh well, at least it doesn't count. Like I remember,
Speaker 4: I remember doing a postgame show for the Kentucky Wesleyan
Speaker 4: game last year. No, no, it was the show because we
Speaker 4: didn't do exhibition postgame shows last year. It was the
Speaker 4: first show we did after they lost to Westley. I
Speaker 4: guess that next day, and you know what that did
Speaker 4: was essentially like anybody that was holding out hope that
Speaker 4: this year was going to be way different, like you
Speaker 4: were confirmed to be wrang right out of the jump.
Speaker 4: So that was really demoralizing. There's also a lot of us,
Speaker 4: like myself that that knew like, hey, no matter what
Speaker 4: players he gets in here, this thing is not going
Speaker 4: to work out. And you know, that's what happened. But
Speaker 4: I remember there were a couple of people, one in particular.
Speaker 4: The other one didn't say it, but he kind of
Speaker 4: was getting there but didn't want to say it. Another
Speaker 4: person straight up called in and was like, were you
Speaker 4: so upset? It wasn't a real game, it doesn't count,
Speaker 4: and like that's when it hit me and again I'm
Speaker 4: having like flashbacks here, like that was one of those
Speaker 4: one of the many things that I remember when I
Speaker 4: think back on last year, like we haven't even started
Speaker 4: playing real games yet, and I'm gonna have to I'm
Speaker 4: gonna have to take calls from people who act like
Speaker 4: this is not an issue, and that like the house
Speaker 4: h isn't burning down and we're all stuck inside, Like
Speaker 4: you know, I mean to give you what Kenny told
Speaker 4: us at the end of the year the Titanic. I mean,
Speaker 4: like he said it, not me, Like it was the
Speaker 4: Titanic and there were people not jumping off, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: what the hell's wrong with you? Like we want to
Speaker 4: go down with the Titanic. And Kenny, you know, the
Speaker 4: last time we ever heard from him, that's when he
Speaker 4: mentioned that, right the Titanic game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he.
Speaker 4: Was somehow trying to make some kind of a point that, well,
Speaker 4: you should have stayed on the Titanic and not jumped
Speaker 4: off with me, what dude, Like, I mean, it was
Speaker 4: a wild experience. So again, we're gonna make the most
Speaker 4: of what is a situation to night where you don't
Speaker 4: have to worry about winning or losing. You're gonna win
Speaker 4: by a lot, And I'm happy that's Balden gets a
Speaker 4: chance to bring their team in here and they get
Speaker 4: to play in the Young Center, and I'm sure there's
Speaker 4: many guys on their roster that are from the area,
Speaker 4: maybe some that grew up Louisville fans. So all in all,
Speaker 4: that's cool. But it's going to be a beat down
Speaker 4: the night, and I'm here for it. All right, we
Speaker 4: got to get to a quick break. We got to
Speaker 4: come back on the other side and talk about what
Speaker 4: happened with Kentucky football over the weekend, because they're as
Speaker 4: down as they've ever been, to a point where like
Speaker 4: it's really not even like I mean, I enjoyed. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't have it any other way, but like, you know,
Speaker 4: they're not even fighting back, like they're not like acting
Speaker 4: as if their season is anything other than what it is.
Speaker 4: But one thing I wanted to bring up is that
Speaker 4: there were some signs before this and started even last
Speaker 4: year during the summer, not that you would be in
Speaker 4: this situation where it's falling apart this badly, but like
Speaker 4: they ignored some signs that I think were pretty alarming
Speaker 4: about where like where their head coach was, like where
Speaker 4: their program was as far as culture and whatnot. And
Speaker 4: now you're seeing that they're a mess. All right, quick break,
Speaker 4: come back on the other side, wrap up at three
Speaker 4: o'clock hour right here on Sports Talk seven ninety Jay
Speaker 4: Sean right. Correct, when this song was a big hit,
Speaker 4: I thought this guy was about to take over, like
Speaker 4: and be like the new biggest pop star. And then
Speaker 4: I don't know, did he have another song?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had a couple he had. Do you remember with
Speaker 2: Sean Paul?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'd hit the lights, but it was all all
Speaker 3: of his hits came within like a year or two.
Speaker 4: And then he was gone, right Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 4: don't think he's.
Speaker 2: Dead, but like he's not a big deal anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he came and went pretty pretty quickly. But this
Speaker 4: was a big song, no doubt. Good vibes, So well done.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're always playing the hitch, John, That's what
Speaker 4: you do, DJ company on the ones and twos, always bringing,
Speaker 4: always bringing the correct vibes. So good stuff. Glad to
Speaker 4: have you back. John had a nice long, nice long
Speaker 4: weekend as Hoosiers keep winning, and we'll certainly talk about
Speaker 4: them a little bit later because I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 4: intrigued by the whole debate about favoritism and you know,
Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt being given to the sec still
Speaker 4: when you know.
Speaker 3: I gotta say, it pisses me off that they did
Speaker 3: not move up at all in the rankings this week.
Speaker 3: Now I know the ap pole doesn't matter, they're about
Speaker 3: to do the first CFP rankings next week, and it's
Speaker 3: just it just drives me nuts. So the way that
Speaker 3: they favor different conferences.
Speaker 4: And again it's it's it's a bunch of dudes who vote.
Speaker 4: And we know, as John minsh, I'm glad he said
Speaker 4: that the AAP pole is always irrelevant, and it really becomes,
Speaker 4: i mean obviously irrelevant and really barely gets mentioned once
Speaker 4: you get your first look at the College Football Playoff rankings. However,
Speaker 4: to see that, like those that cover the sport, I'm
Speaker 4: sure some left them out, but the fact that the
Speaker 4: collection of those that get to vote it still had
Speaker 4: Missouri as a top twenty five team, it's the most
Speaker 4: it was. It's the most telling thing in regards to
Speaker 4: they just assume, well, because they're in the SEC, they
Speaker 4: must be a top twenty five team, like they shouldn't. Mean,
Speaker 4: we'll get to that later on, but yeah, Indiana, there's
Speaker 4: some wild numbers about how impressive they are. There's some
Speaker 4: wild as far as how dominant they've been, but there's
Speaker 4: also some wild numbers as far as like the competition
Speaker 4: that they played. And I just find it fascinating because
Speaker 4: I don't see them slowing down at any point until
Speaker 4: they get to Ohio State. And like, if they're eleven
Speaker 4: and zero and they're playing when they play them.
Speaker 2: They'd play them. It's their second to last games.
Speaker 4: So if they're ten and oh play in Indiana or
Speaker 4: playing Ohio State, and like they come out there and
Speaker 4: they win that game by ten, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 4: how could you be surprised? I mean, yeah, it's a
Speaker 4: big step up from what they've competed against all year,
Speaker 4: but like they've been consistent and you know, we'll see
Speaker 4: you can't control it on can't control the schedule. You
Speaker 4: play who's on your schedule, and they've dominated at every
Speaker 4: every level.
Speaker 3: And Nebraska almost goes into Ohio Stateium and beats them.
Speaker 3: In that Nebraska team that Indiana beat by forty nine points.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was probably the least expected result that not
Speaker 4: only I mean, I don't think any thought Nebraska would win,
Speaker 4: but you're right, they were competing with him. I was
Speaker 4: watching a good stretch of that game, all right. So
Speaker 4: on the Kentucky side, we'll talk a little more about
Speaker 4: Mark Stoops and sort of the future of the Kentucky
Speaker 4: program in the next couple of hours, because you know,
Speaker 4: there's not a whole lot of time left here as
Speaker 4: we're up against it. But what I meant earlier when
Speaker 4: I said that, you know, maybe there should have been
Speaker 4: some signs that like this, this could happen, not to
Speaker 4: this level. Like I don't think anybody can point to
Speaker 4: how things fell apart last year for them, and in
Speaker 4: a year that they were very underwhelming, fell short of expectations,
Speaker 4: carried themselves as if they were that ten win team
Speaker 4: they had with Will Evis in his first year there,
Speaker 4: and like they got humbled in a major way and
Speaker 4: they got blown out by Georgia. Stoops told fans to
Speaker 4: pony up, and I know a lot of people like
Speaker 4: point to that moment is like, Okay, that really bit
Speaker 4: him in the ass because then his record and home
Speaker 4: games against SEC competition's been you know, abysmal. And by
Speaker 4: the way, are they they're out of SEC home games,
Speaker 4: aren't they? Yeah, they went winless this year in SEC
Speaker 4: home games because they'll they'll play both A and M
Speaker 4: and I'm sorry, they'll play Texas and Tennessee on the
Speaker 4: road and then they play Murray at home in the rules.
Speaker 4: So they went on you know, they didn't win a game.
Speaker 4: So you know, like there are some numbers that you
Speaker 4: can point back to that and where it all started,
Speaker 4: and maybe that is like, you know, maybe that maybe
Speaker 4: that was Stoops's first tell that, like he's not able
Speaker 4: to have the culture that he wants right, the ingredients,
Speaker 4: the recipe, if you will, is not working like it
Speaker 4: once worked when he had some success pre and il
Speaker 4: and pre portal. I think Kentucky has been pro portal.
Speaker 4: I mean Stoops has been somebody that has complained about it,
Speaker 4: but like you know, they've been able to add some
Speaker 4: good players to their roster and football and retain good players.
Speaker 4: That's the biggest thing for them. They landed some dudes
Speaker 4: in the portal that they had to go pay a
Speaker 4: lot of money for, including the two quarterbacks that they've
Speaker 4: gotten in the last couple of years that had been underwhelming.
Speaker 4: But I think the best sign for their NIL is
Speaker 4: the fact that they were able to pay enough money
Speaker 4: to keep guys like Dame Key and Dion Walker and
Speaker 4: even Barrian Brown. Like that that's telling. So you know,
Speaker 4: last year they should have been better than they were,
Speaker 4: and then you know what you did, You beat a
Speaker 4: top ten opponent at their place. It just so happens
Speaker 4: to be your rival. And I don't know if that
Speaker 4: win made everybody just kind of like forget that they
Speaker 4: were going in a really really bad direction at a
Speaker 4: pretty high rate of speed before they spoiled Louisville's season
Speaker 4: at the end there, and you were able to kind
Speaker 4: of just get lost in that moment, because look, one
Speaker 4: thing of Kentucky One think Kentucky fans can never claim
Speaker 4: unless they just want to be presented evidence that's endless.
Speaker 4: They go insane when they beat us, and look, I
Speaker 4: would do the same thing. I'm not being critical, but
Speaker 4: like I say that because there are still some that
Speaker 4: act as if like, well, I don't care if they'd
Speaker 4: be Well, yeah you do, because last year your team
Speaker 4: was in every way underwhelming and not as good as
Speaker 4: they should have been. But they beat Louisville, and you
Speaker 4: know what helped you. Louisville was really good last year.
Speaker 4: I mean you beat him, so I guess you know
Speaker 4: that proves in your mind that they're not as good
Speaker 4: as they were ranked. And I'm not sure they were either,
Speaker 4: but they were a top ten team. If you'd beat Louville,
Speaker 4: they were six and six last year, Yeah, it would
Speaker 4: have helped Stoops, but it would not have given him
Speaker 4: the boost that he needed at such a time. And
Speaker 4: then he wanted to go to A and M, and
Speaker 4: then they didn't want him at the last minute. And
Speaker 4: I love how now that people who covered Kentucky and
Speaker 4: that are connected, they're not as willing to say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: he turned him down. He didn't want to go, like no,
Speaker 4: he know, everybody knows what happened. They wanted him, and
Speaker 4: then they realized those that helped kind of fund that
Speaker 4: whole thing down there, they didn't want him. So like
Speaker 4: there were some signs that they were not in a
Speaker 4: good place, including right before the season started. You know,
Speaker 4: he sounded defeated. Mark Stoops talking at the SEC media
Speaker 4: days about how he's so burned out, doesn't know how
Speaker 4: much longer he can do it, because you know, he's
Speaker 4: now got to do everything all on his own with
Speaker 4: nil and worry about guys getting paid, Like that's your
Speaker 4: coach defeated with the new job that is a college
Speaker 4: football coach. Before you played a game this year, and
Speaker 4: you came out in your first SEC game, you got whacked,
Speaker 4: and yeah you were competitive against Georgia. You beat Ole
Speaker 4: Miss which again that wind doesn't look as good now, right,
Speaker 4: But also keep in mind that's the outlier. Now you've
Speaker 4: played what eight games, the other six are.
Speaker 2: Who you are?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just the truth, all right. Two more
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