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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Are get off our show, idiot, the kids are playing

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<v Speaker 3>or trail off.

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<v Speaker 4>The countries are screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals. They're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, good afternoon, and welcome in Happy Monday. It

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<v Speaker 4>is coffee and Company. That's us, and we are fueled

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<v Speaker 4>by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee,

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<v Speaker 4>that's me. I hope you knew. If not, now you

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<v Speaker 4>do the company man, mister John, all alongside as we

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<v Speaker 4>do each and every day, we're gonna take you up

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<v Speaker 4>until six o'clock and again, as I mentioned, happy Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully everybody had themselves a good weekend, a weekend where

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<v Speaker 4>I would assume those that do in fact celebrate Halloween.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, without kids, you probably you know you would

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<v Speaker 4>have done it on Saturday, right, Halloween parties, that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff, So Happy Halloween. Week. We are just a

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<v Speaker 4>few days away, and I'm hoping that that it doesn't rain.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like and I could be way off here.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even really like have any it's just gut feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like since i've been taking my kids, both

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<v Speaker 4>of them, because my son's four, but since like he's

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<v Speaker 4>been able to walk around, which would I guess, really

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<v Speaker 4>be the last few christ the last few Halloweens, like

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<v Speaker 4>it's just been rainy and cold, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if it's gonna be cold, but I know it's looking

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<v Speaker 4>like rain. So let's let's hope that doesn't happen. Because

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<v Speaker 4>Halloween's always been the holiday for me that I've never

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<v Speaker 4>really understood why people get into it, like I just

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<v Speaker 4>never I'm not like anti Halloween. I just I've never

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<v Speaker 4>been able to match anybody's excitement and love for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 4>The people who you know, really love it. Now. Christmas, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>there's people that love Christmas, but like they know they

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<v Speaker 4>can't reach my level because I wish it was Christmas

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<v Speaker 4>season every day. I mean, that would be great for me.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm kind of getting into Halloween more this year

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<v Speaker 4>than I ever have, and it's got me excited for Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm also excited for the next few hours because obviously

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot to get into. I have a theory

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<v Speaker 4>on what happened in Boston on Friday night that could be,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, something we look back on at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the season. Wishful thinking, of course, but like it

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<v Speaker 4>might have been. And I'll explain why. It might have

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<v Speaker 4>been a twenty to nothing deficit on the road at

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<v Speaker 4>Boston College, when you felt like the season was crumbling

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<v Speaker 4>and slipping away right before our eyes, it might have

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<v Speaker 4>been then, Like I don't know where you were, if

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<v Speaker 4>you were watching it at home, maybe it'd made the

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<v Speaker 4>trip to Boston. I was out watching the first half

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<v Speaker 4>with family, having dinner, and like I think we all

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<v Speaker 4>collectively as the fan base, felt like, okay, yeah, not

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<v Speaker 4>only has this season been pretty underwhelming, Like they're not

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<v Speaker 4>twenty to nothing at Boston College and this thing might

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<v Speaker 4>end up being like really, really bad. But somehow they

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<v Speaker 4>bounced back and in the end they did what they

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<v Speaker 4>were supposed to do. They beat a team but didn't cover,

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<v Speaker 4>so again they won. But still they showed us that

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<v Speaker 4>they've got a pretty consistent identity. But the way in

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<v Speaker 4>which they pulled that off. I think could could end

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<v Speaker 4>up being I guess I should say, I hope it

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<v Speaker 4>ends up being what we look back on and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it looked pretty scary there for a little while. It

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<v Speaker 4>looked like it was about to combust, and then sure

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<v Speaker 4>enough they turn it around, and no bigger opportunity for

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<v Speaker 4>them to go out and show that they did learn

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<v Speaker 4>a lot from the mistakes they've made up to this

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<v Speaker 4>point when they take on Clemson at their place on

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<v Speaker 4>Saturday night. So we'll certainly talk about that throughout the week.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyways, hopefully everybody had themselves a good weekend. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought about it on the way in because I

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<v Speaker 4>was texting my wife after I was I was at

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<v Speaker 4>the house getting ready, you know, just making sure I've

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<v Speaker 4>got I tried to clean up the house as best

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<v Speaker 4>I can John before I leave, just so when she

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<v Speaker 4>comes home from work, you know, if the kids are

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<v Speaker 4>driving her crazy and I'm not home yet, that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>she'll at least walk into a house that's been cleaned

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit. I mean, I'm not I'm not on

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<v Speaker 4>the I'm not mopping the floors, I'm not cleaning the toilets.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know you did something though, yeah, I made

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, and here's what Here's what I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like is is not probably not just my wife, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's probably a lot of women, and maybe it's even

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<v Speaker 4>your wife as well. They certainly appreciate that we did

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<v Speaker 4>try to clean up a little bit, straighten up to

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<v Speaker 4>where the house looks more presentable, but like they also

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<v Speaker 4>know that we probably didn't do it in a way

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<v Speaker 4>that they would do it if they were actually gonna,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, clean the house. Yeah, so they appreciated. And

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<v Speaker 4>my wife, for the most part, has restrained from like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>why didn't you do this, Why didn't you do this?

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<v Speaker 4>Or why why did you put the this here? She

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<v Speaker 4>now just is like, oh, thanks, honey, because because then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, at least I'm trying. But I was, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I was getting everything straightened up before I left, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just text her was like I had a great weekend,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, you know, I didn't tell her this,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm like, you know what, I might talk about

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<v Speaker 4>my weekend on the show, rarely ever do that. And

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<v Speaker 4>then I realized, like, what I did this weekend that

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<v Speaker 4>made it a really really awesome, fun weekend. For me,

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<v Speaker 4>it would probably not make it, wouldn't hit, wouldn't register

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<v Speaker 4>to anybody as far as why that's fun, because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>old and washed. Like what you guys probably do is fun,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, for fun, maybe hanging out, partying, doing Halloween stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, nightlife, that kind of stuff. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's not really my life anymore. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess I'm just old and washed. I mean, Friday after

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<v Speaker 4>the show, and by the way, big thanks to Alex R.

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<v Speaker 4>White and his team for having us out on Friday,

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<v Speaker 4>had a good show. He believed in the power of positivity.

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<v Speaker 4>He was very confident louis was going to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to come out, play well and get a win, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was very wrong in the beginning, and then he

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<v Speaker 4>ended up being right. So shout out to him for

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<v Speaker 4>giving me a little more positive vibes because I felt like,

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like Louisville could play poorly and still win,

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<v Speaker 4>and I guess you could say they technically did when

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<v Speaker 4>you consider the beginning of the game. But it was

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<v Speaker 4>nice to see him get a victory. But after that,

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<v Speaker 4>I made a trip over to is it the Hill

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<v Speaker 4>Hillcrest Avenue? You know what you know much about that area, John.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not really.

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<v Speaker 4>It's and I wish I and I could probably do

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<v Speaker 4>a little research. But it's an area of Louisville where

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<v Speaker 4>if you live, like on Hillcrest Avenue. I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>like on the corner of and I'm not super familiar

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<v Speaker 4>with the area over there, but close to old or

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<v Speaker 4>do I sound like any No, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 4>close to Oldham County, but it's it's like Lexington Road

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<v Speaker 4>and Hillcrest Avenue they have Yeah, if you just go

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<v Speaker 4>to if you look up Halloween on Hillcrest, it's got

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<v Speaker 4>its own Facebook page and it's it's a really nice street.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's probably one of the nicer areas of

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville as far as just you know, it's just got

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<v Speaker 4>an awesome vibe to it and older houses but they're

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<v Speaker 4>all really nice, kind of classics if you will. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Hill chrestin Frankfort Avenue is the general area, and like

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<v Speaker 4>if you live there, I don't know if you have

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<v Speaker 4>something in like the hoa, if it's in some kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a contract, but like everybody that lives there does

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<v Speaker 4>it really big for Halloween, Like they've got all kinds

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<v Speaker 4>of awesome stuff set up, So we did that on Friday,

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<v Speaker 4>took the kids for a little while, they got to

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<v Speaker 4>see some cool spooky stuff, and then of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the game Friday night, and yes on Saturday, my son

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<v Speaker 4>had had his football game, which was a lot of fun,

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<v Speaker 4>and then in the evening we went to my parents' house,

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<v Speaker 4>my mom and my stepdad, they had a little Halloween

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<v Speaker 4>get together and he lives, well, they live in an

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<v Speaker 4>area where they've got a lot of property behind the

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<v Speaker 4>house and just kind of a big open field, but

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<v Speaker 4>there's also a little trail that's back there, and they

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<v Speaker 4>made what was called us well, I mean what we

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<v Speaker 4>called it a spooky trail, and it had all kinds

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<v Speaker 4>of like cool Halloween stuff, and man, the kids loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>So we went through that a bunch, hung out yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>took my family to Churchill Downs for some obvious day racing,

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<v Speaker 4>but also they had their trunk retreats. So really it

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<v Speaker 4>was an awesome family weekend where I did a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff with my kids, really got in the Halloween spirit,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I'm feeling like this is one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best weekends I've had in a long time. And

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<v Speaker 4>then it hit me, well, one, you don't really live

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<v Speaker 4>that much of an exciting life, Nick. There's probably not

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<v Speaker 4>many people that would hear of your weekend shenanigans and say, Man,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy's living the life. This guy's got it made.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like I do, but others probably don't

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<v Speaker 4>see it that way, and that's totally fine. So that

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the observations when I think, like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>what a great weekend. You know what else was an

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<v Speaker 4>observation it shouldn't be this way, because you know, there

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<v Speaker 4>are more important things than sports, but like, life's better

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<v Speaker 4>when your team doesn't lose, and Louisville didn't lose and

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<v Speaker 4>lost more games this year than you know, some people

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<v Speaker 4>thought they lose all year, and they were down twenty

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<v Speaker 4>to oven and then they came back and won. So, like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be honest with you, had they just been in

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<v Speaker 4>it in a rock fight with Boston College all throughout

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<v Speaker 4>and then they ended up, you know, just holding on

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<v Speaker 4>to get a win, and it was a back and

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<v Speaker 4>forth game where neither team looked very good, but somebody

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<v Speaker 4>had to win. I mean, you'd still prefer that over

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<v Speaker 4>a loss. But I really think the way the thing

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<v Speaker 4>played out was awesome for everybody involved. Again, from a

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<v Speaker 4>fan standpoint, I thought it was over, like I thought

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<v Speaker 4>the season was done. I thought we were dead, and

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<v Speaker 4>then we rose from the dead and really dominated that

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<v Speaker 4>game after getting down twenty to nothing. And that's why

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<v Speaker 4>I would have been so demoralizing if they would have

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<v Speaker 4>somehow not been able to hold on to win. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't know if I would have, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I said this as a joke, and it

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<v Speaker 4>is a joke, and it's really not that funny, but

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<v Speaker 4>it just popped back in my head as I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>back to the end of that game as I'm watching,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because it was awesome to see them come

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<v Speaker 4>from behind, especially you know, the circumstances. But whenever Jeff

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<v Speaker 4>decided to throw the ball there on third down and

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<v Speaker 4>stop the clock and then give it back to Boston College,

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<v Speaker 4>stopped the clock. I would have needed a few minutes

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<v Speaker 4>know if I'd have been able to do much of

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<v Speaker 4>anything without cursing. But they didn't. You know, they were

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it was scary for a while. It was

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<v Speaker 4>text messages that I was going back and forth with

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<v Speaker 4>people about to where you know, like Jeff's interview he did,

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<v Speaker 4>I think think it was after the first quarter, and

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<v Speaker 4>one of those interviews during the game that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Like the game was going really poorly. You saw Jeff's

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<v Speaker 4>It's just me, you know, not remembering exactly word for

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<v Speaker 4>word what she said, because I'm sure she's much much more,

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<v Speaker 4>much more well spoken than I am. But the question

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<v Speaker 4>was like, how do you or I'm sorry it was

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<v Speaker 4>it was Russ Brown. I think you might have asked it,

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<v Speaker 4>but somebody asked about the message at halftime and basically

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<v Speaker 4>said like, how do you balance if you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, raise hell or not? And Jeff kind of

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<v Speaker 4>laughed and he was like, you know, well, I've I've

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<v Speaker 4>done a whole lot of a whole lot of hell

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<v Speaker 4>raising this year, and I don't. I don't And I

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<v Speaker 4>because it was almost like, as he was talking to

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<v Speaker 4>this press conference earlier today, it was almost as if

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<v Speaker 4>as well. And you can to me, it just seemed

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<v Speaker 4>as if he didn't really remember if it was a

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<v Speaker 4>planned thing, to not, but it sounds like halftime was

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<v Speaker 4>actually kind of calm and it worked. You know, it worked.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean, again, the result itself is not anything

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<v Speaker 4>that we should be overall, you know, celebrating, and you

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<v Speaker 4>should always feel good if your team wins, especially when

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<v Speaker 4>it looked as if they were potentially going to get

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<v Speaker 4>But how they did it and really what they had

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<v Speaker 4>to do again, I think it could be the building

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<v Speaker 4>block for this team to clean some things up, stop

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<v Speaker 4>playing sloppy football, and finish this season strong. And I really,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, get the sense that those guys for the

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<v Speaker 4>first time proved something to themselves in a major way.

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<v Speaker 4>And again it's not because they beat Boston College at

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<v Speaker 4>their place when they were favored by a touchdown. It's because,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they really did have to manufacture some momentum

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<v Speaker 4>on there, and there was nowhere near the amount of

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<v Speaker 4>fans there as is what it sounded like when I

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<v Speaker 4>was on my way back home from from from dinner

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<v Speaker 4>at halftime, if we left dinner, went back home and

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<v Speaker 4>I was listening as the third quarter had started, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was listening to Paul Rodgers and he you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get that. I don't listen to them to

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<v Speaker 4>many games very often. And you know, Paul does a

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<v Speaker 4>great job. We're lucky to have him. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>that crew they've got this year doing football, the trio

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<v Speaker 4>of Craig, Jody and Paul, I mean, they're phenomenal. But

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<v Speaker 4>I was listening to the beginning of the third quarter

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<v Speaker 4>in a little bit at the end of the of

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<v Speaker 4>the halftime update, and Paul made a comment about how,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, there's some people here tonight, but man,

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<v Speaker 4>the fake piped in crowd noise is borderline obnoxious. Which

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<v Speaker 4>that's why a lot of times they don't show a

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<v Speaker 4>full panned crowd at a game because they don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to make a network partner look bad, right like the

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<v Speaker 4>ACC and even the SEC like they're in bed with ESPN.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not a good look if you're just going

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure all your shots are an empty stadium.

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<v Speaker 4>But nonetheless, like it was an empty stadium for the

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<v Speaker 4>most part. It's cold, you're on the road, you're down

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<v Speaker 4>twenty to nothing, like you've got to dig deep all

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<v Speaker 4>on your own, Like there's no crowd on your end

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to build you up, you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, start twenty points in the hole and find

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<v Speaker 4>a way to win this game. And did that. And

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<v Speaker 4>again I don't think they should be feeling cocky as

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<v Speaker 4>if they've shown that there's some great team. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think internally there's a lot that you can take from

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<v Speaker 4>what they ended up having to do the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>that because again I hate giving people credit, and I

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<v Speaker 4>said this on the postgame show, there's you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>got to find a better word than credit, like somewhere

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<v Speaker 4>where you're saying, you know, credit and praise just doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>seem to fit. But you shouldn't get credit for not quitting,

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<v Speaker 4>like for actually trying. Should not be something well, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>that they try, Like usually that's what you throw out

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<v Speaker 4>there when you realize there's no other compliment to make. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>at least they're trying, but like you should always try.

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<v Speaker 4>So again I hate giving them credit for not mailing

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<v Speaker 4>it in, but man, it would have been so easy.

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<v Speaker 4>It would have been like human nature for them to

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, realize, hey, we're down twenty to nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>We all know this season has been unsuccessful as far

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<v Speaker 4>as where we thought we'd be at this time, and

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<v Speaker 4>these guys probably know it's on them, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure they're upset about some of the bad officiating

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<v Speaker 4>that's happened from time to time. I'm sure they've been

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<v Speaker 4>unhappy with some play calls at times, but like they

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<v Speaker 4>have to know, especially when you've got a group of

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<v Speaker 4>veterans that have played so much football because of the portal,

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<v Speaker 4>like they know they had underwhelmed, and you got yourself

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<v Speaker 4>in a big hole. One of your top playmakers decided

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<v Speaker 4>to opt out midweek, You've already got some other guys injured,

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<v Speaker 4>like it would have been I think very normal, and

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<v Speaker 4>dare I say, the expectation for most to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just mail it in there. So again, it's kind of tricky.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm balancing it as best I can because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to say, well, hey, at least they didn't quit

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<v Speaker 4>when they could have. But like I think it would

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<v Speaker 4>have been a lot easier to do than most people realize,

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<v Speaker 4>even if they told themselves we're not going to I

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<v Speaker 4>think you start to go through the motions. You hear

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<v Speaker 4>me say this all the time. The human element within

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<v Speaker 4>sports is way more powerful than I feel like most

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<v Speaker 4>people give it credit for. So the fact that they

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<v Speaker 4>did climb out of a hole, come back and win.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it gives them a chance to grasp on

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<v Speaker 4>to not only momentum if you want to call it that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, maybe it's momentum they have internally, but they

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<v Speaker 4>I think they prove something to themselves with how they

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<v Speaker 4>were able to come back and win, and no better

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<v Speaker 4>time than now to get it turned around. And as

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<v Speaker 4>far as learning, if in fact there was a whole

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<v Speaker 4>lot of value to take with you out of Boston,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll find out on Saturday, because again, they're gonna play Clemson,

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<v Speaker 4>a team they've never beat before, a team that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>has really dominated this league for the most part since

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<v Speaker 4>the level has been in it, and there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>a big challenge there. They're eleven point underdogs, and I

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<v Speaker 4>can't tell you right now that I think they're gonna win,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do. I do feel like this this team.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, have you heard a lot of fans

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<v Speaker 4>a lack of like a better description, but really because

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<v Speaker 4>nobody can quite pinpoint why they've just had the struggles

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<v Speaker 4>they've had this year and why they've been sloppy they

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<v Speaker 4>just something's off. Like I remember watching the Miami game.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I feel like every game this year, even

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<v Speaker 4>games when they've won, like the Virginia game, like I

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<v Speaker 4>felt it. I've heard fans say it, something's just off. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe whatever happened on Friday night in Boston, they were

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<v Speaker 4>able to kind of come together, and now they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to be more in sync. And look, they could play

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<v Speaker 4>much better and still lose to Clemson. To Clemson because

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<v Speaker 4>Clemson's obviously a good team that's playing really good football

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<v Speaker 4>right now. Rarely do teams go into Death Valley and

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<v Speaker 4>leave with a victory. But I do love knowing that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>it was, it was almost over, and then now you

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<v Speaker 4>did find a way to win. You clawed back for

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<v Speaker 4>an exciting finish, and now you get to go see

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<v Speaker 4>what you're made of. I mean, the point still needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be to be made about Louisville's current season as

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<v Speaker 4>of now. I mean, they did move to five and three,

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<v Speaker 4>and they are four and two or two. I think

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<v Speaker 4>they're two. What are they? They got four games left? So

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<v Speaker 4>are they three? Yeah, they're three and two in the ACC.

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<v Speaker 4>So of the three teams that have beat you, all

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<v Speaker 4>of them are still playing really really good football right now,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're still top twenty teams. That doesn't mean Louisville,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, can just act like those losses didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>But you've had three chances to beat good teams and

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<v Speaker 4>you were there and you just couldn't get it done

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<v Speaker 4>for various reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, to be honest with you, a win

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<v Speaker 4>at Notre Dame would have been the most impressive, But

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<v Speaker 4>that's the one. I feel like you really shot yourselves

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<v Speaker 4>in the foot repeatedly, and then SMU, you know, they

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<v Speaker 4>just came in and got you. I think Louisville was

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<v Speaker 4>not in a good place at that time, and obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if you'd had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>better plan defensively, you still probably would have given up

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of yards because that SMU offense is pretty

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<v Speaker 4>damn good. But you know, you eliminate maybe one of

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<v Speaker 4>those drives from happening so effortlessly on the first two possessions,

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<v Speaker 4>then maybe you're you're able to ride some momentum in

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<v Speaker 4>the second half and win that game. And then obviously Miami,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you made some mistakes, but I think that

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<v Speaker 4>you just lost that game because you know, they were

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<v Speaker 4>better than you. So some of the losses have been

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<v Speaker 4>kind of demoralizing the way in which they've played out.

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<v Speaker 4>But the result itself isn't something that means all we

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<v Speaker 4>need to panic something's wrong, And that's what I think

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<v Speaker 4>is different about Boston. Yeah, the result itself is whatever, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not that big of a deal on a positive side,

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<v Speaker 4>just like losing to Notre Dame SMU and Miami, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't ever want to lose. But it's not like people

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<v Speaker 4>look at those losses and say, well, that means Louis

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<v Speaker 4>was a fraud. So we've kind of had a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a role reversal here to where, hey, maybe

418
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<v Speaker 4>a win that really, you know, in the eyes of outsiders,

419
00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:10.799
<v Speaker 4>isn't that impressive because we were down twenty to nothing

420
00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:14.720
<v Speaker 4>and you know, beat a Boston college team and didn't cover.

421
00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.680
<v Speaker 4>But again, it's not about the overall result. It's about

422
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<v Speaker 4>how it all happened. And that's again all this is

423
00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:23.279
<v Speaker 4>wishful thinking on my end because I'd love nothing more

424
00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.920
<v Speaker 4>to see this team come out and and you know,

425
00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:29.559
<v Speaker 4>put together their first complete game where not they're not perfect,

426
00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.519
<v Speaker 4>but you know, the mistakes aren't as crucial and they

427
00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:35.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, can compete with a really good team. So

428
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<v Speaker 4>we got you know, six days before, five days I

429
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<v Speaker 4>should say, before we get to game day. But I'm

430
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<v Speaker 4>very excited, to be honest with you, and I didn't.

431
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<v Speaker 4>I didn't. And again, I think if Louisa would have been,

432
00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Louisa would have just held on and won a rock fight.

433
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<v Speaker 4>I think I kind of would have, you know, not

434
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<v Speaker 4>been as excited. And again it's not that I think,

435
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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not ready to say they're going to win.

436
00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:58.039
<v Speaker 4>I probably won't do that or even say they're gonna lose,

437
00:18:58.079 --> 00:18:59.559
<v Speaker 4>because none of us know until we will get there

438
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<v Speaker 4>on Saturday. But I think the momentum, the vibe, whatever

439
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<v Speaker 4>you want to call it, whatever word you want to use,

440
00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:05.759
<v Speaker 4>I think it's in a better spot than I would

441
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<v Speaker 4>have anticipated. And that's a good thing. All right. Some

442
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<v Speaker 4>of the things we'll get into throughout the afternoon here. Obviously,

443
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<v Speaker 4>we've got some basketball tonight, Louisville taken on Spaulding, another

444
00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:18.359
<v Speaker 4>exhibition game. We will have another post game show. Tip

445
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<v Speaker 4>Off is at seven o'clock, and I would imagine you're

446
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<v Speaker 4>going to see a lot of what you saw last Monday,

447
00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:26.599
<v Speaker 4>when they played young Harris. This is a Division three

448
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<v Speaker 4>team in Spaulding, and I you know, I don't. I

449
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<v Speaker 4>don't know a whole lot about their program as of now,

450
00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:34.720
<v Speaker 4>like meeting as of you know, the last couple of years.

451
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<v Speaker 4>But this is a Division three team, meaning these are

452
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<v Speaker 4>not scholarship players. So I mean no disrespect to Spaulding.

453
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<v Speaker 4>I know coach both coach Grays have done a great

454
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<v Speaker 4>job over there, and they're they I think they've been

455
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<v Speaker 4>really competitive at D three level. I think they've actually

456
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<v Speaker 4>been better at the D three level than they were

457
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<v Speaker 4>when they were in AI for a long time. But

458
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<v Speaker 4>as a long winded way of me saying like, I

459
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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be shocked if Louisville wins this game about eighty tonight. Now,

460
00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.359
<v Speaker 4>I highly doubt that happens because again it's just hard

461
00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:05.559
<v Speaker 4>to envision a game playing out that way. But I

462
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<v Speaker 4>think with the way Louisville wants to play and knowing

463
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<v Speaker 4>that these guys, these players are you know, Division three athletes,

464
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<v Speaker 4>not Division two, which is the next best level outside

465
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<v Speaker 4>of D one, who you played last week and you

466
00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:20.960
<v Speaker 4>won by what fifty or something, So I doubt should

467
00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.359
<v Speaker 4>you embarrass them in a major way. But like this

468
00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.519
<v Speaker 4>thing could get ugly. Loisvill's never played a program of

469
00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:28.039
<v Speaker 4>this caliber an exhibition play that I know of. You know,

470
00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:33.519
<v Speaker 4>usually when you play Wesleyan, I mean Bellerman before they

471
00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:35.319
<v Speaker 4>were before they were D one, they were D two,

472
00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:40.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean Shamanad. Weren't they an exhibition opponent a couple

473
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<v Speaker 4>years ago?

474
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<v Speaker 2>Two?

475
00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:46.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're D two, So so was Leno Ryans. So

476
00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:48.200
<v Speaker 4>like D two is usually who you end up. And

477
00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:50.599
<v Speaker 4>you will occasionally get an NAI A team like Pikeville

478
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<v Speaker 4>and Georgetown College. They have really good NAI programs over

479
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<v Speaker 4>the years, and and they if they at times have

480
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<v Speaker 4>gotten a chance to play exhibition games against the N

481
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<v Speaker 4>state schools like Louisville and Kentucky. But Division three I don't.

482
00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:04.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean maybe Simmons College, which I'm not even sure

483
00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:07.920
<v Speaker 4>what level they are. So you know it's gonna be fun,

484
00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:09.319
<v Speaker 4>you know. I thought to myself, well, man, I wish

485
00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:11.240
<v Speaker 4>I could see him get challenged because I'm jealous. John

486
00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:13.880
<v Speaker 4>got to see his Hoosier's knock off Tennessee yesterday in

487
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<v Speaker 4>a charity exhibition game.

488
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<v Speaker 2>On the road.

489
00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:20.359
<v Speaker 4>Caliperry beat the hell out of Kansas's team on Friday night,

490
00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:22.720
<v Speaker 4>which UK fans canna act like you didn't see that

491
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<v Speaker 4>you game, act like y'all.

492
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

493
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<v Speaker 4>I don't think anybody for Kansas played. I don't know.

494
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<v Speaker 4>Just first I'm hearing about it. No, you saw it.

495
00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.680
<v Speaker 4>You saw Cal dominate that exhibition game. Did they do

496
00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.319
<v Speaker 4>the stoppages the way that? I don't know? All I

497
00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:36.839
<v Speaker 4>knows they kept scoring. It was a lot to a

498
00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.720
<v Speaker 4>little okay, And again Kansas with that was without a

499
00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:43.720
<v Speaker 4>Hunter Dickinson and at least one other notable player, maybe more,

500
00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:46.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. But anyways, I was getting jealous of

501
00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:48.240
<v Speaker 4>these exhibitions because you're getting a chance to see like

502
00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:50.920
<v Speaker 4>there's no like you're gonna you're gonna be discouraged if

503
00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:53.839
<v Speaker 4>your team loses, but you also know that, like you know,

504
00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:56.000
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't count. So I would just love to see

505
00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:59.079
<v Speaker 4>where Louisville stands against, you know, a legitimate team, and

506
00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:01.119
<v Speaker 4>they're certainly not gonna get that tonight. But as I

507
00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:03.319
<v Speaker 4>thought about that earlier, and I was like, well man,

508
00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.359
<v Speaker 4>another night where we watched them kill somebody, that'll be fun.

509
00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:07.960
<v Speaker 4>But then I'm like, nope, you set up a bit.

510
00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.160
<v Speaker 4>You better cheer up. You better realize where you were

511
00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:12.319
<v Speaker 4>a year ago. You better realize you used to lose

512
00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.119
<v Speaker 4>these games, You ungrateful piece of garbage. I felt like

513
00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:16.880
<v Speaker 4>a piece of garbage for a moment there, because I'm like,

514
00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:19.759
<v Speaker 4>what is wrong with you? If we played Spalding every

515
00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:21.920
<v Speaker 4>game for thirty games of the season, I wish I

516
00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.880
<v Speaker 4>should enjoy that and appreciate that we're in this position

517
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<v Speaker 4>and not the you know, the position we were in

518
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.960
<v Speaker 4>last year, in the year before. So hell yeah, Spaulding

519
00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:31.680
<v Speaker 4>tonight might beat them by one hundred and we're going

520
00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:35.599
<v Speaker 4>to be fired up and ready. On the Kentucky side.

521
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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

522
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<v Speaker 4>Love seeing them crumble and continue to have like one

523
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<v Speaker 4>of the most disappointing seasons of any I mean, like

524
00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:47.480
<v Speaker 4>of the power for there's still what four games left,

525
00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:48.880
<v Speaker 4>but like Kentucky right now, it's got to be up.

526
00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:51.000
<v Speaker 4>There's one of the most disappointing teams as far as

527
00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:53.559
<v Speaker 4>like nobody was expecting to be great, but like they're

528
00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:55.960
<v Speaker 4>they're they're the worst team in the in the in

529
00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.480
<v Speaker 4>the SEC outside of Mississippi State. I mean they are,

530
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<v Speaker 4>Like that's crazy, nobody thought that would be the case.

531
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<v Speaker 4>And the worse they get in the closer we get

532
00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:05.880
<v Speaker 4>to the end of November, the more I think, well,

533
00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.559
<v Speaker 4>are we going to be in that position again where

534
00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:11.039
<v Speaker 4>it's like, well, hey, if if, if you don't get

535
00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:13.400
<v Speaker 4>them this year? I mean, like, do we need to

536
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:15.279
<v Speaker 4>just cancel the series like that? I don't want to

537
00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.039
<v Speaker 4>go there, but like, kind I'm kind of there to

538
00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:20.559
<v Speaker 4>be honest with you, because Kentucky looks really bad and

539
00:23:20.599 --> 00:23:22.119
<v Speaker 4>it's only gonna get worse. They got to go to

540
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<v Speaker 4>Tennessee this weekend, and then they got Murray, then they

541
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<v Speaker 4>go to Texas. I mean, it could be bad by

542
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<v Speaker 4>the time we get to that Louisville game, which you

543
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<v Speaker 4>know typically would be all hell yeah, but if it

544
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<v Speaker 4>actually makes me more scared to be honest with you,

545
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<v Speaker 4>real quick, one of the things I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure I mentioned about Thornton's because there's all kinds of perks,

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<v Speaker 4>they've got deals that like even surprise me. But they're

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<v Speaker 4>always hooking you up, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>eight bucks, especially in this economy, I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 4>all right, so I mentioned the charity exhibition scrimmages that

573
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<v Speaker 4>are going on in college basketball, and I actually haven't

574
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<v Speaker 4>watched any of them. Actually, no, I take that back.

575
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 4>There was one that was on I think I might

576
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<v Speaker 4>have been last week of the week before Carolina and

577
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.319
<v Speaker 4>Memphis played, and I watched a little bit of that

578
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<v Speaker 4>and I wasn't super impressed with it with either team.

579
00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.880
<v Speaker 4>But again, it was also a reminder that usually good

580
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.279
<v Speaker 4>teams are not in a position to where you know,

581
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<v Speaker 4>they're playing other good teams this early in not only

582
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:13.039
<v Speaker 4>the season because the season hasn't started yet, but like

583
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.640
<v Speaker 4>usually I mean, especially if that I mean some of

584
00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:17.599
<v Speaker 4>these scrimmages took place within the last two weeks, which

585
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<v Speaker 4>again is super early. I mean we're talking like right

586
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:24.519
<v Speaker 4>as soon as practice is allowed to happen, seemingly. So, John,

587
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:27.279
<v Speaker 4>you said, Tennessee and Indiana yesterday, both of them shot

588
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<v Speaker 4>pretty poorly.

589
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Indiana didn't didn't hit a three pointer until the

590
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.680
<v Speaker 3>second half. Tennessee looked like they were looking for offense

591
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:36.720
<v Speaker 3>without Dalton connect and both teams just took a while

592
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:38.799
<v Speaker 3>to kind of figure out really what they were trying

593
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 3>to do. And you know, thankfully from my perspective, Indiana

594
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.279
<v Speaker 3>was able to figure it out, and I'd say the

595
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<v Speaker 3>biggest was to Squad sixty six to sixty two.

596
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so it was a close, close game, low scoring.

597
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Indiana didn't really take a lead definitively until late

598
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<v Speaker 3>in the second half.

599
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.079
<v Speaker 4>Either was it neck and neck or were they coming

600
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<v Speaker 4>from behind.

601
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.799
<v Speaker 3>So Tennessee was always up by two or three points.

602
00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:00.759
<v Speaker 3>Indiana would like cut the lead, they go back up

603
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 3>a few more points, and then Indiana finally was able

604
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<v Speaker 3>to break that barrier and take the lead for good,

605
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 3>and at least I think it was for good Indiana.

606
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Malik Renew was a good X factor towards the end

607
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:12.079
<v Speaker 3>for Indiana. And then overall, when it comes to somebody

608
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 3>who just had a really good performance was Miles Rice,

609
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 3>the transfer from Washington State, the point guard. He looked

610
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:18.720
<v Speaker 3>really good in Indiana's first outing.

611
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean a veteran point guard from the portal

612
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:24.279
<v Speaker 4>that has played enough, has talent and has been productive.

613
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Like that's really all that Mike Woodson needed last year,

614
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 4>to be honest with you, Yes, h So the fact

615
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<v Speaker 4>that he's got you know, both those teams would probably

616
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<v Speaker 4>end up being pretty good. I mean, I would assume so,

617
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.759
<v Speaker 4>but it sounds like neither side really felt great about

618
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<v Speaker 4>what they saw.

619
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean the best thing that I took away

620
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:42.279
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, you found a way to win on

621
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<v Speaker 3>the road, and yeah it was it was an exhibition environment,

622
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.440
<v Speaker 3>like there wasn't There were times where the Tennessee crowd

623
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<v Speaker 3>was getting into it, but at the same time, there

624
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<v Speaker 3>were times where it felt like it was a little sleepy.

625
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.440
<v Speaker 3>But also there wasn't a lot of fireworks in the

626
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 3>game to really be excited about. In general, when a

627
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.759
<v Speaker 3>lot of teams or a lot of players are missing

628
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:01.279
<v Speaker 3>show and it's just kind of ugly.

629
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 4>Was it on ESPN's like the streams was on the

630
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:06.440
<v Speaker 4>SEC okay, so then it should be available. I may

631
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 4>go back and watch it on demand. It should still

632
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 4>be there. If it was on the ESPN SEC network stream,

633
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:13.720
<v Speaker 4>I would imagine it's still there. But because Louis is

634
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 4>gonna play both those teams pretty early and obviously Tennessee

635
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Speaker 4>will be a big opportunity, I don't care if we

636
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:20.799
<v Speaker 4>end up getting to the end of the year in Tennessee. Stinks,

637
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.000
<v Speaker 4>but because all I know is that whenever they do

638
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:26.559
<v Speaker 4>play them in a couple of weeks, less than two weeks.

639
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 4>By the way, they're going to still be ranked in

640
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:30.720
<v Speaker 4>the top fifteen at that time. And if Louisville can

641
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 4>somehow start their season with game number two getting a huge,

642
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 4>huge victory, that would be that'd be amazing. So I

643
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 4>may go back in. And by the way, for those

644
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 4>who don't know that, that's going to be a wide out,

645
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.680
<v Speaker 4>that's Louisville's last bye week in football. So you'll play

646
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 4>Saturday afternoon at the Young Center, and it is going

647
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.599
<v Speaker 4>to be a wide out, and I'm hoping that there

648
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 4>is a huge crowd there. Now exhibition games, I didn't

649
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.319
<v Speaker 4>see this one, and I'm not sure if it's available

650
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:55.240
<v Speaker 4>to watch, and it probably wouldn't be worth watching as

651
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 4>far as like competitiveness. But did you see what Duke

652
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 4>did to Arizona State? Beat him by over fifty points?

653
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

654
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:05.920
<v Speaker 4>And Arizona State was not good last year. And I

655
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.319
<v Speaker 4>know that Bobby Hurley is not is not somebody that

656
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.519
<v Speaker 4>like is viewed to be anywhere near as good of

657
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 4>a coach as his brother is. But you know, they

658
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.799
<v Speaker 4>got some decent talent on that team. I mean they

659
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 4>got they just brought in Jaden Quainton's the five star

660
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.759
<v Speaker 4>freshman that a lot of people thought was, you know,

661
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 4>one of the best freshmen in the country not named

662
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:28.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, Cooper Flag. So I don't know Duke. I

663
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.279
<v Speaker 4>think Duke's got a chance this year, and I've been

664
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.279
<v Speaker 4>wrong about him for the last like three years. Like

665
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.359
<v Speaker 4>I felt like Duke has had rosters in recent years

666
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 4>and it's not just trust me, it's not just Shire.

667
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 4>Even towards the end with Coach K, like I remember

668
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 4>thinking like, look, you guys should be better, Like why

669
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.279
<v Speaker 4>are you not better? Like you're good, but like there's

670
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 4>no reason, like you should be middle of the pack

671
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.319
<v Speaker 4>in your league or whatever. So I kind of feel

672
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 4>like they've gotten the benefit of it out because one

673
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 4>coach K seemed to always get a pass for having

674
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 4>a loaded team that falls short of expectations, doesn't make

675
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 4>a deep run of the tournament. He did, We'll put

676
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.799
<v Speaker 4>it this way, he got to pass more so than others. Now,

677
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.799
<v Speaker 4>for those who used to claim, well, what are you well,

678
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 4>Coach K doesn't have you know, multiple games, like what

679
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:13.279
<v Speaker 4>is it Saint Peter's in Oakland? I mean he did

680
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 4>have that loss to who was it that beat him

681
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 4>Lee High got him once or no, who did Lee

682
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.319
<v Speaker 4>High get Maybe it was Lee High got Duke. Yeah,

683
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 4>Duke got Lee High and then at Mercer. Yeah, that's

684
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying. So like they I guess they have

685
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.279
<v Speaker 4>had him, but nonetheless, like this may be the year

686
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 4>where Duke ends up just having so much talent that is,

687
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, NBA type talent that they're not going to

688
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 4>go undefeed it, but like maybe they do end up

689
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 4>being like the team that throughout the year you're saying, Okay,

690
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 4>we know they've taken a loss in December and they

691
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.839
<v Speaker 4>slipped up and lost one in early February, but make

692
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:44.759
<v Speaker 4>no mistake about it, when they're playing their best, there's

693
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 4>nobody that's better than them. We haven't had that in

694
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 4>college basketball in a long time. I'm not saying that

695
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.880
<v Speaker 4>like I need that or want that, but it does

696
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 4>bring more attention to college basketball that you otherwise wouldn't get.

697
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 4>If there's a team that has a bunch of future

698
00:29:57.960 --> 00:29:59.720
<v Speaker 4>NBA guys on it that everybody wants to see an

699
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 4>action and Cooper flag of course is I mean, there's

700
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:03.839
<v Speaker 4>people that think he could be playing in the NBA

701
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.839
<v Speaker 4>right now and starting and that's you know, that's that

702
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 4>sounds a little crazy, But again, the hype for him,

703
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 4>He's entering the college game with more hype and expectation

704
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 4>than any freshman. Again, I was gonna say since Zion,

705
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 4>but people forget Zion when the season started. Zion's hype

706
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.200
<v Speaker 4>and real buzz came when he was like a junior

707
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:28.039
<v Speaker 4>and senior in high school. By the time Zion played

708
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:30.319
<v Speaker 4>his first game at Duke, just about everybody thought he

709
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:32.680
<v Speaker 4>was the third best freshman on his team because of RJ.

710
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 4>Barrett and Cam Reddish, and then they realized, oh yeah,

711
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, despite him maybe not looking I mean, he's

712
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Zion was a bigger guy, right. There was

713
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 4>a lot of jokes about his weight, but like good

714
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 4>Luck Garden him, a guy that does carry around that

715
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 4>much weight shouldn't be able to move as quickly as

716
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 4>he does and bounce off the ground as high as

717
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 4>he does. So anyways, with Cooper Flag, I mean, he's

718
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.519
<v Speaker 4>obviously a guy that is probably going to be the

719
00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 4>National Player of the Year this year. But there's also

720
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 4>a guy on their team named con Canoople and I'm

721
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 4>probably saying that incorrectly. He's also a freshman.

722
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Let's see here, Conkinipple freshman more.

723
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Con Canipple would have never cannipple. It's k n U

724
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 4>E P P e L. But I do like how

725
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 4>they do this. Let me see if it's the same

726
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 4>voice for this guy Leek Brown, Okay, Virginia. So that's awesome.

727
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 4>So the Duke website they actually have the players themselves

728
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:26.960
<v Speaker 4>telling you how to say their name. That's the best

729
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:28.880
<v Speaker 4>way to do it, so con Canoople. So now there's

730
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 4>no or's the Cannipple. I just I just don't want

731
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 4>to say nipple on the radio because it feels it feels,

732
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 4>it feels off like I shouldn't be saying that. But

733
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:36.799
<v Speaker 4>you know, nobody's got nipples. You could say nipples.

734
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Conkinipple's freshman, he's Concinipple.

735
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 4>But apparently he bawled out. And there's already been some

736
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 4>people claiming, like, yeah, nobody's actually realizing how special this

737
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 4>freshman is because there's so much hype about Cooper Flag,

738
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 4>which would make a lot of sense, because again, Cooper Flag,

739
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 4>if you're not I mean if you if you're somebody

740
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 4>doesn't really pay a whole lot of attention to college

741
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 4>basketball in the off season, recruiting that kind of stuff.

742
00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Then maybe you don't even know who I'm talking about,

743
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 4>but you could pay at ten just a little bit.

744
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 4>And you've probably been hearing about this guy for the

745
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 4>last two years and he's about to play is one

746
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 4>and only season in college basketball for Duke. And again,

747
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 4>one of the CBS Sports Candid Coaches Corner thing or

748
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 4>Candid Coaches series that they do one of the questions

749
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.079
<v Speaker 4>you know they do every year is who are the

750
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 4>best players in America? And I think by like a

751
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 4>seventy percent vote, like coaches college high level college basketball

752
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 4>coaches said that they think Cooper Flag is the best

753
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 4>player in college basketball. And he's had to play a

754
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:33.880
<v Speaker 4>game yet. So anyways, Duke beating Arizona State by that much,

755
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, it's a it's an exhibition, charity scrimmage

756
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 4>type situation, and Arizona State's not expected to be good,

757
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean at least not you know, Duke level good.

758
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 4>But to beat anybody by fifty that you know, we're

759
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 4>talking to power four team. We're not talking about you

760
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:50.279
<v Speaker 4>know Spaulding, who's in town to night, Well, I guess

761
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.000
<v Speaker 4>they live in town. They're not intown they're just making

762
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 4>a quick trip up the road essentially to take on

763
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Louisll And again we will have postgame coverage tonight nine o'clock,

764
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 4>probably going to be similar to last last week's postgame show,

765
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 4>just you know, because even though we got it last

766
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 4>week right the first time, watching this new era of basketball,

767
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:11.000
<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey coaching the squad, clearly seeing their identity, seeing

768
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:14.039
<v Speaker 4>that they are seemingly a reflection of that guy coaching

769
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 4>them when they're on the floor, which is what you want.

770
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.839
<v Speaker 4>Like it was awesome to see. Like again, wasn't really competitive.

771
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 4>You just drained threes and won by a bunch of points.

772
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.079
<v Speaker 4>But if that's what happens against tonight, which I think

773
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 4>it will, I think we're going to be feeling the

774
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.960
<v Speaker 4>same way because again, you know, hopefully, like myself, you

775
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.480
<v Speaker 4>guys won't take this stuff for granted because we we

776
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 4>went through a couple of years when you had to

777
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 4>actually worry about winning these exhibition games and being happy.

778
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh well, at least it doesn't count. Like I remember,

779
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 4>I remember doing a postgame show for the Kentucky Wesleyan

780
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 4>game last year. No, no, it was the show because we

781
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 4>didn't do exhibition postgame shows last year. It was the

782
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:51.079
<v Speaker 4>first show we did after they lost to Westley. I

783
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 4>guess that next day, and you know what that did

784
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:56.799
<v Speaker 4>was essentially like anybody that was holding out hope that

785
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 4>this year was going to be way different, like you

786
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.119
<v Speaker 4>were confirmed to be wrang right out of the jump.

787
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.680
<v Speaker 4>So that was really demoralizing. There's also a lot of us,

788
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 4>like myself that that knew like, hey, no matter what

789
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 4>players he gets in here, this thing is not going

790
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.440
<v Speaker 4>to work out. And you know, that's what happened. But

791
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.400
<v Speaker 4>I remember there were a couple of people, one in particular.

792
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 4>The other one didn't say it, but he kind of

793
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 4>was getting there but didn't want to say it. Another

794
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 4>person straight up called in and was like, were you

795
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 4>so upset? It wasn't a real game, it doesn't count,

796
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 4>and like that's when it hit me and again I'm

797
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 4>having like flashbacks here, like that was one of those

798
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 4>one of the many things that I remember when I

799
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.119
<v Speaker 4>think back on last year, like we haven't even started

800
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 4>playing real games yet, and I'm gonna have to I'm

801
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:34.880
<v Speaker 4>gonna have to take calls from people who act like

802
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 4>this is not an issue, and that like the house

803
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 4>h isn't burning down and we're all stuck inside, Like

804
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:42.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean to give you what Kenny told

805
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 4>us at the end of the year the Titanic. I mean,

806
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 4>like he said it, not me, Like it was the

807
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Titanic and there were people not jumping off, and I'm like,

808
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:51.719
<v Speaker 4>what the hell's wrong with you? Like we want to

809
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 4>go down with the Titanic. And Kenny, you know, the

810
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:55.920
<v Speaker 4>last time we ever heard from him, that's when he

811
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.480
<v Speaker 4>mentioned that, right the Titanic game.

812
00:34:58.559 --> 00:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like he.

813
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 4>Was somehow trying to make some kind of a point that, well,

814
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 4>you should have stayed on the Titanic and not jumped

815
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:11.440
<v Speaker 4>off with me, what dude, Like, I mean, it was

816
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 4>a wild experience. So again, we're gonna make the most

817
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 4>of what is a situation to night where you don't

818
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 4>have to worry about winning or losing. You're gonna win

819
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 4>by a lot, And I'm happy that's Balden gets a

820
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 4>chance to bring their team in here and they get

821
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 4>to play in the Young Center, and I'm sure there's

822
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.000
<v Speaker 4>many guys on their roster that are from the area,

823
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 4>maybe some that grew up Louisville fans. So all in all,

824
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.719
<v Speaker 4>that's cool. But it's going to be a beat down

825
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.880
<v Speaker 4>the night, and I'm here for it. All right, we

826
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 4>got to get to a quick break. We got to

827
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 4>come back on the other side and talk about what

828
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:43.000
<v Speaker 4>happened with Kentucky football over the weekend, because they're as

829
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 4>down as they've ever been, to a point where like

830
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:46.840
<v Speaker 4>it's really not even like I mean, I enjoyed. I

831
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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't have it any other way, but like, you know,

832
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.519
<v Speaker 4>they're not even fighting back, like they're not like acting

833
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 4>as if their season is anything other than what it is.

834
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<v Speaker 4>But one thing I wanted to bring up is that

835
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 4>there were some signs before this and started even last

836
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 4>year during the summer, not that you would be in

837
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 4>this situation where it's falling apart this badly, but like

838
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 4>they ignored some signs that I think were pretty alarming

839
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.480
<v Speaker 4>about where like where their head coach was, like where

840
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 4>their program was as far as culture and whatnot. And

841
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:19.920
<v Speaker 4>now you're seeing that they're a mess. All right, quick break,

842
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 4>come back on the other side, wrap up at three

843
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<v Speaker 4>o'clock hour right here on Sports Talk seven ninety Jay

844
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Sean right. Correct, when this song was a big hit,

845
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.480
<v Speaker 4>I thought this guy was about to take over, like

846
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 4>and be like the new biggest pop star. And then

847
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:39.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, did he have another song?

848
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

849
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I had a couple he had. Do you remember with

850
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Sean Paul?

851
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'd hit the lights, but it was all all

852
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 3>of his hits came within like a year or two.

853
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 4>And then he was gone, right Yeah, I mean I

854
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:49.639
<v Speaker 4>don't think he's.

855
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Dead, but like he's not a big deal anymore.

856
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he came and went pretty pretty quickly. But this

857
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:56.840
<v Speaker 4>was a big song, no doubt. Good vibes, So well done.

858
00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:58.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you're always playing the hitch, John, That's what

859
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.880
<v Speaker 4>you do, DJ company on the ones and twos, always bringing,

860
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.000
<v Speaker 4>always bringing the correct vibes. So good stuff. Glad to

861
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.239
<v Speaker 4>have you back. John had a nice long, nice long

862
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 4>weekend as Hoosiers keep winning, and we'll certainly talk about

863
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 4>them a little bit later because I mean, I'm I'm

864
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 4>intrigued by the whole debate about favoritism and you know,

865
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 4>benefit of the doubt being given to the sec still

866
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:23.320
<v Speaker 4>when you know.

867
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I gotta say, it pisses me off that they did

868
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 3>not move up at all in the rankings this week.

869
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Now I know the ap pole doesn't matter, they're about

870
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 3>to do the first CFP rankings next week, and it's

871
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 3>just it just drives me nuts. So the way that

872
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 3>they favor different conferences.

873
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 4>And again it's it's it's a bunch of dudes who vote.

874
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 4>And we know, as John minsh, I'm glad he said

875
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 4>that the AAP pole is always irrelevant, and it really becomes,

876
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 4>i mean obviously irrelevant and really barely gets mentioned once

877
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 4>you get your first look at the College Football Playoff rankings. However,

878
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.840
<v Speaker 4>to see that, like those that cover the sport, I'm

879
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:56.360
<v Speaker 4>sure some left them out, but the fact that the

880
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 4>collection of those that get to vote it still had

881
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 4>Missouri as a top twenty five team, it's the most

882
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 4>it was. It's the most telling thing in regards to

883
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 4>they just assume, well, because they're in the SEC, they

884
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 4>must be a top twenty five team, like they shouldn't. Mean,

885
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 4>we'll get to that later on, but yeah, Indiana, there's

886
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.679
<v Speaker 4>some wild numbers about how impressive they are. There's some

887
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 4>wild as far as how dominant they've been, but there's

888
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 4>also some wild numbers as far as like the competition

889
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 4>that they played. And I just find it fascinating because

890
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't see them slowing down at any point until

891
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:28.599
<v Speaker 4>they get to Ohio State. And like, if they're eleven

892
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.280
<v Speaker 4>and zero and they're playing when they play them.

893
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 2>They'd play them. It's their second to last games.

894
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.920
<v Speaker 4>So if they're ten and oh play in Indiana or

895
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 4>playing Ohio State, and like they come out there and

896
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 4>they win that game by ten, I mean, I mean,

897
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.119
<v Speaker 4>how could you be surprised? I mean, yeah, it's a

898
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 4>big step up from what they've competed against all year,

899
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 4>but like they've been consistent and you know, we'll see

900
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 4>you can't control it on can't control the schedule. You

901
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 4>play who's on your schedule, and they've dominated at every

902
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 4>every level.

903
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:58.719
<v Speaker 3>And Nebraska almost goes into Ohio Stateium and beats them.

904
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.639
<v Speaker 3>In that Nebraska team that Indiana beat by forty nine points.

905
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was probably the least expected result that not

906
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 4>only I mean, I don't think any thought Nebraska would win,

907
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 4>but you're right, they were competing with him. I was

908
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 4>watching a good stretch of that game, all right. So

909
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.440
<v Speaker 4>on the Kentucky side, we'll talk a little more about

910
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.320
<v Speaker 4>Mark Stoops and sort of the future of the Kentucky

911
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 4>program in the next couple of hours, because you know,

912
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.239
<v Speaker 4>there's not a whole lot of time left here as

913
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.559
<v Speaker 4>we're up against it. But what I meant earlier when

914
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:26.559
<v Speaker 4>I said that, you know, maybe there should have been

915
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:30.440
<v Speaker 4>some signs that like this, this could happen, not to

916
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:32.800
<v Speaker 4>this level. Like I don't think anybody can point to

917
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 4>how things fell apart last year for them, and in

918
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:41.239
<v Speaker 4>a year that they were very underwhelming, fell short of expectations,

919
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 4>carried themselves as if they were that ten win team

920
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 4>they had with Will Evis in his first year there,

921
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 4>and like they got humbled in a major way and

922
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 4>they got blown out by Georgia. Stoops told fans to

923
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.119
<v Speaker 4>pony up, and I know a lot of people like

924
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:59.039
<v Speaker 4>point to that moment is like, Okay, that really bit

925
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.840
<v Speaker 4>him in the ass because then his record and home

926
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 4>games against SEC competition's been you know, abysmal. And by

927
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 4>the way, are they they're out of SEC home games,

928
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 4>aren't they? Yeah, they went winless this year in SEC

929
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:14.000
<v Speaker 4>home games because they'll they'll play both A and M

930
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 4>and I'm sorry, they'll play Texas and Tennessee on the

931
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.199
<v Speaker 4>road and then they play Murray at home in the rules.

932
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 4>So they went on you know, they didn't win a game.

933
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.199
<v Speaker 4>So you know, like there are some numbers that you

934
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 4>can point back to that and where it all started,

935
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:28.119
<v Speaker 4>and maybe that is like, you know, maybe that maybe

936
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.280
<v Speaker 4>that was Stoops's first tell that, like he's not able

937
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 4>to have the culture that he wants right, the ingredients,

938
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.840
<v Speaker 4>the recipe, if you will, is not working like it

939
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 4>once worked when he had some success pre and il

940
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:43.639
<v Speaker 4>and pre portal. I think Kentucky has been pro portal.

941
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean Stoops has been somebody that has complained about it,

942
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.119
<v Speaker 4>but like you know, they've been able to add some

943
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.079
<v Speaker 4>good players to their roster and football and retain good players.

944
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.159
<v Speaker 4>That's the biggest thing for them. They landed some dudes

945
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 4>in the portal that they had to go pay a

946
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 4>lot of money for, including the two quarterbacks that they've

947
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.400
<v Speaker 4>gotten in the last couple of years that had been underwhelming.

948
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 4>But I think the best sign for their NIL is

949
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 4>the fact that they were able to pay enough money

950
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.719
<v Speaker 4>to keep guys like Dame Key and Dion Walker and

951
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 4>even Barrian Brown. Like that that's telling. So you know,

952
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.159
<v Speaker 4>last year they should have been better than they were,

953
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 4>and then you know what you did, You beat a

954
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:20.440
<v Speaker 4>top ten opponent at their place. It just so happens

955
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.239
<v Speaker 4>to be your rival. And I don't know if that

956
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 4>win made everybody just kind of like forget that they

957
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 4>were going in a really really bad direction at a

958
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 4>pretty high rate of speed before they spoiled Louisville's season

959
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 4>at the end there, and you were able to kind

960
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:35.960
<v Speaker 4>of just get lost in that moment, because look, one

961
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 4>thing of Kentucky One think Kentucky fans can never claim

962
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 4>unless they just want to be presented evidence that's endless.

963
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 4>They go insane when they beat us, and look, I

964
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 4>would do the same thing. I'm not being critical, but

965
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 4>like I say that because there are still some that

966
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 4>act as if like, well, I don't care if they'd

967
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.639
<v Speaker 4>be Well, yeah you do, because last year your team

968
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 4>was in every way underwhelming and not as good as

969
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:57.639
<v Speaker 4>they should have been. But they beat Louisville, and you

970
00:41:57.679 --> 00:41:59.639
<v Speaker 4>know what helped you. Louisville was really good last year.

971
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:01.199
<v Speaker 4>I mean you beat him, so I guess you know

972
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 4>that proves in your mind that they're not as good

973
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 4>as they were ranked. And I'm not sure they were either,

974
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 4>but they were a top ten team. If you'd beat Louville,

975
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 4>they were six and six last year, Yeah, it would

976
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 4>have helped Stoops, but it would not have given him

977
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:11.960
<v Speaker 4>the boost that he needed at such a time. And

978
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 4>then he wanted to go to A and M, and

979
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 4>then they didn't want him at the last minute. And

980
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 4>I love how now that people who covered Kentucky and

981
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.719
<v Speaker 4>that are connected, they're not as willing to say, oh, yeah,

982
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 4>he turned him down. He didn't want to go, like no,

983
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.679
<v Speaker 4>he know, everybody knows what happened. They wanted him, and

984
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:28.480
<v Speaker 4>then they realized those that helped kind of fund that

985
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 4>whole thing down there, they didn't want him. So like

986
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 4>there were some signs that they were not in a

987
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 4>good place, including right before the season started. You know,

988
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 4>he sounded defeated. Mark Stoops talking at the SEC media

989
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.599
<v Speaker 4>days about how he's so burned out, doesn't know how

990
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:43.599
<v Speaker 4>much longer he can do it, because you know, he's

991
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:45.559
<v Speaker 4>now got to do everything all on his own with

992
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 4>nil and worry about guys getting paid, Like that's your

993
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 4>coach defeated with the new job that is a college

994
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 4>football coach. Before you played a game this year, and

995
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 4>you came out in your first SEC game, you got whacked,

996
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.159
<v Speaker 4>and yeah you were competitive against Georgia. You beat Ole

997
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 4>Miss which again that wind doesn't look as good now, right,

998
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:05.760
<v Speaker 4>But also keep in mind that's the outlier. Now you've

999
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 4>played what eight games, the other six are.

1000
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Who you are?

1001
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's just the truth, all right. Two more

1002
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 4>hours left right here on Sports Talk seven ninety stick Around,
