Speaker 1: Coldly smokes, we're gonna be sneaking over into Gun's house
right now because we've got some juicy stuff here. Uh So,
you know, you know Margot Robbie, right, I think.
Speaker 2: I've heard of her. She's an actress, right, Ah.
Speaker 1: You know she Barbie is one that she was in
very major film, was number one a few years back
at the box office. So there's a chance she may
return as Harley Quinn.
Speaker 2: Do I discuss you discussing? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean what you're talking in riddles? Also because like
what's the chance? I guess you have to clarify because
there was a quote by James Gunn. I think somebody
asked them about the possibility of Mark.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I thought that was attached to a different note.
Speaker 2: That's why we're both here, you know, we help each
other out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the quote from from James gun Or sorry,
let me backpedal. The interviewer asked him the possibility of
Margot Robbie returning, and all you said was that will
be revealed down the line not conforming, not conforming, not
confirming nor denying.
Speaker 2: To me, I take that more as like just.
Speaker 3: Not speaking in absolutes of like no, that's never gonna happen, because, like,
I don't know possibility of down the line, they want
to do some crazy their own. They're already kind of
doing the multiversal thing as we enter into Peacemaker season.
Speaker 2: Two, but.
Speaker 3: They, yeah, just just just covering the bases if if
we eventually want to go down there, I think maybe,
like you can definitely make the argument.
Speaker 2: It's more than that.
Speaker 3: I think I also have personal biases in here where
I think I'm in the camp that I would actually
prefer them not bringing her back, like to just do
a full recast, Like I absolutely love her as as
Harley Quinn. Fantastic casting, and she just really brought her
a game to that role, like even more so in
Birds of Prey.
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of the best for.
Speaker 3: Like, it's all really good, but that like I just
like that movie the most out of all the ones
that she's been in. I did like The Suicide Squad,
but Birds of Prey was something a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Just memorable to me.
Speaker 3: I think The Suicide Squad is still a really solid film,
but the character of Harley Quinn was a little bit
not of the head the head haunch o, I guess
in that film.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I also have to rewatch the Suicide Squad. It's been
it's been a little bit of a hot minute there,
but yeah, I don't know, Like if we're gonna be
going down this new era of the James Gunn DCU
with Peter Saffron on the on the sidelines, I would
prefer them just finding a new actor actress in that role.
And since I've you know, been doing this for a
little while, I've been able to see some different versions
of Harley, whether that's the Harley Quinn Show or the
most recent would have been the Cape Crusader, which was
like a very different just look of the character, and
I think it kind of just broadened my I don't
think horizons is the right term there, but I'm just
gonna I'm just gonna say broad my outlook on the
potential of what the character is because in my mind,
it's like, Okay, you got the version who's always wearing
like the classic like Joker card type character, which has
got like the black, white and red attire like the
one from the animated series I'm mostly talking about, and
then like the Arkham Games, where it made like a
more gritty realistic version of the character, not so cartoony,
but like in the Cape Crusader, it's like a very
different art style and just I don't know, just like
a darker version of the character I feel, And the
character is already really fucked up and psychotic, but I
like the idea of just potentials of the character I
haven't quite seen, or maybe a different actor portraying the
role in a different light and I never would have imagined, like.
Speaker 2: Like when we got Joking in.
Speaker 3: The first Joker movie, like that is so different of
a Joker performance than I that I've seen the past,
and and like even before then, there has been very
different versions of that character, whether it was Jack Nicholson
of course, the late great Heath Ledgers version of the character.
Speaker 2: But even going way back to like.
Speaker 3: Caesar Romero, I want to say, is the name that's
the top of the head nice for that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just different versions.
Speaker 3: Of course, of course they're the clowns, but like still
very different versions of like the actor portraying it. And
I think there's many actresses out there that have been
known or maybe they're up and coming that could do
a killer job. And that's not talking that part of me.
That's not taken away from what Marco did at all
or me knocking her performance. But I don't know, it's
just we're in this new era. Let's just put a
fresh coat of paint on it. I think to like
my little you know, PostScript on that statement is I
think I would still be down though if they if
they potentially did like a multi verse of like appearance
of the character, just for like a fun, fun little cameo,
but nothing really more than that. But yeah, that's that's
my take on this. Again, it's very just like some
little remark that James Gunn made in that interview that
we're kind of dissecting here, But that's my that's my
overall take on all of that. Do you agree, you disagree?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. The idea, you know, Margot
Robbie is a fantastic Harley Quinn. I really really like
her as that character, and I liked her a lot
and Birds of Prey, But the idea of her coming back,
I don't know, it does it feel kind of like
picky and choosy, if you know, James Gunn just kind
of deciding like Okay, We're gonna take you and take
you and take you and again he runs the show.
So if he wants to take the best parts of
the DCEU and throw it into his universe, his sandbox,
and by all means, go for it. But I would
like him to kind of give the give his stuff
more like a fresh face, which you know he did.
Henry Cavill got the boot favor of David corn Sweat
Black Adam got the boot in favor of everything else,
So he's definitely cleaning. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh yeah,
watching us talk about this, So I think I do
think them using her, I mean again to each his own.
If they want to, then that's their prerogative. They can
do it. But I would prefer to see someone new
in the role because she did great, you know, and
pass the buck. That being said, yeah, they got the
multiversal stuff now with Peacemaker, And that's something that's probably
my biggest hang up is like, well, this Peacemaker is
kind of like it it's tapped into the old DCEU,
but then it's starting off in this new you know,
the new era of DC and whatnot. I get the
multiversal stuff is supposed to explain that and kind of
cover their butt on that kind of narrative a little bit,
all that kind of dynamic, and it's whatever. I can
get on board with it, it's fine. But I'm not
necessarily like super super big fan of that kind of setup,
which makes me biased because and Marvel does that. Oh,
I fucking love it. So there's my true colors at
the end of the day, though, Yes, And then the
end of the day, I think, like I said that,
you just if they bring her back, I'm sure they'll
do a good job and that I'll end up liking
it either way, It'll be fine. But I would not
be opposed to them giving that character to someone else,
because if you bring back her, then are you gonna
You're obviously bringing back a different joker. You're not going
to bring back Tared Letto, Yeah, or Walking Phoenix, because
I think that has been officially killed.
Speaker 2: So he's six feet under.
Speaker 1: He's six feet under. The only joker that's really left
untapped is what is his name, very Kyogan? Yeah, from
The Batman Child. Yeah, so maybe Gun wants to line
him up and then you have a movie with him
and Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn making out and doing stuff together,
who knows what. Yeah, it's an interesting rumor.
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, for sure.
Speaker 1: That the so next though for Gun, there's been a
lot of interesting things that's kind of been popping up
about them. I saw a comment about Gun wanted to
get things underway for like another Superman project and whatnot.
But the thing that we're gonna be talking about is
super Family. Now, what do you know about Superfamily because
I've not wasn't too familiar with it until they start
talking about in the discord GiB Discord, and then I
was like, Okay, so it's like the the next gen
kind of thing going at it. Uh, I mean nothing
more than what I would have like assumed it being
like Superman, Supergirl, just the super fam Like, those are
the only real two haunchos that I think of when
it comes to that, but I'm sure I'm missing quite
a few.
Speaker 2: Dude, do you have like a roster? I can pull
it up.
Speaker 1: Also, So the leader I have is Superman, and then
you have Superboy con l Connor Kent. Then you have
the eradicated and con l L conn l L. Yeah,
he's a genetic clone of Superman created on the orders
of Lex Luthor. Okay, I mean we've seen clones.
Speaker 2: We see that, Yeah, we did, we did.
Speaker 1: And you have John Henry Iron Steel and Supergirl Cara
Steal like Shaq Steel. John Henry Iron's steal.
Speaker 2: That's Shack.
Speaker 3: That's got to be Shack, like not that version, but
like that character.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's the same character.
Speaker 1: Where does Shack? Where does Shack come into play?
Speaker 2: The movie is called Steel? We we we retroed it?
Speaker 1: Didn't we we retroed movie?
Speaker 3: Or?
Speaker 2: Am I tripping major balls right now? Steel?
Speaker 1: Is it within nineteen ninety seven?
Speaker 2: Yeah, detall, it's the Shack movie. There you go.
Speaker 1: Steal DC Oh, so Shack plays, yeah, nineteen ninety seven.
I was thinking, how the fuck is Shack Steel? Like
we didn't and if we did, I was not a
part of it. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: We definitely cover this in some way shape or for
maybe it was a watch along.
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Travis, if you're listening, confirmed, he'll he'll, he'll remember, because
I wouldn't have posters otherwise.
Speaker 2: I feel like I wouldn't have put this on. But
I digress.
Speaker 1: My god, he looks so he looks so like uncomfortable
in this poster. Have you seen are you looking at it?
I'm gonna pull.
Speaker 3: I've seen the movie, so yes, I know exactly what
you're talking about this image.
Speaker 1: Yeah, heroes don't come any bigger. God damn.
Speaker 2: Not a good movie, not a good movie whatsoever.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't look like it because I am because
am so Yeah, well there you go. Yeah, so Steele
is his comic book form looks a lot cooler, a
lot cooler. He's got like a big Superman ass on
his chest, and he's got a red cape and everything
like that. He looks absolutely terrifying. So yeah, those are
four members. It says Enemies, Cyborg, Superman, allies. They got
the Justice League. That's a good ally to have. Uh yeah,
that's the super Family, it seems god.
Speaker 3: It says Jimmy Olsen is a key member in here.
I did not love our Jimmy Olsen that we got
the Superfamily. Jimmy Olsen is a key member. Yeah, he's
not on my list.
Speaker 1: What the heck?
Speaker 3: He's like a major telling me that's what's probably. Oh okay, okay,
well let's see. Yeah, take it with a grain of salt.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, take it with a grain of salt. It was
not pitch perfect.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think there's potential here. I think that
it's it's again, Yeah, James Gunn I feel like excels
at doing these big group movies, and I've not I know,
he's done other throw of other superhero films, a sorry,
films that are not superhero movies, other films, and there's
a lot of them that I've yet to see, so
I can't fully speak to it. If there are a
lot of them, they basically have like one or two
protagonists and it's a much smaller kind of crowd. But
from what I've seen with this superhero stuff, they're all
big team projects. And I think that he does a
great job at kind of making sure, hey, I'm not
falling off the wagon a little bit. I can stay
on top of these different character arcs and I'm able
to keep tabs on everything and kind of just jump
in on the moving train ride and just follow it
right to the end of the movie. And I think
that's great. So I don't think it's at a character
for him to kind of dive into another team movie
like this that isn't Justice League. Really, I think Justice
League is something he wants to kind of keep at
Bay for a little bit, hence when you got whatever
the team was in Superman and then maybe if he's
doing the Superfamily next or whatever. But is there anything
else you want to add to the Superfamily or do
you want to talk about that villain possibility?
Speaker 2: My only like.
Speaker 3: I guess holdback that I would have on the Super
Family concept on like if it's not just one big
movie and we're gonna be getting multiple projects, Like there's
already the Supergirl one announced that we know of, is
like how different is their move set and power set?
And like is that going to be something that's just
kind of like a lot of super Like projects in
a row, Like does that kind of get boring if
we have very similar move sets of just like an
invincible person Kryptonites, you know, that's the that's the one
caveat that they can't really get around that. That would
be my only kind of hold back. But I did
end up really enjoying Superman. It was a perfect movie,
but I don't know it was a fun enough dive
into the part of me hiccups hit me the universe there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you make a good point. I mean,
how many times can you do a clone really of
our main headhun show, Like, I just feel like he
can get kind of repetitive. But again, if he's like
a little like a younger clone version of him or
something like that, then maybe we're not done. Well. No,
I think we're pretty done with the clone that was
in Superman of David corn Sweat. I mean he knocked
him out into like the ether in between World's glitch
flowing pool river things out into another dark hole or something,
so that fucker is never coming back at least yet. Yeah.
But anyways, the possible villain here is Brainiac. Now, my
experience with Brainiac is next to nothing, except for the
fact that I know he's a super intelligent android cyborg
like creature from the planet Kolu, I believe, and he's
obsessed with collecting all the knowledge that he can in
the known universe. I'm not sure exactly how evil he
is and whatnot, but it seems like he is a very,
very prominent DC villain, so I'd be excited to see
him pop up in here, And I think, if I
remember correctly having conversations with Travis, people have wanted to
see Brainiac pop into the big screen for quite some
time here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's got an awesome name.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Anytime you have someone of like a super intelligent cross
with like some sort of technology infuse, like, I feel
like that's just a okay, he's gonna be He's gonna
be a pretty powerful badass, it I've I don't think
I have any experience with his character, like maybe if
I yeah, I don't think I have any experience actually
at all, But just the concept of someone it's like
super genius like that techno infuse makes me think of,
Oh my gosh, what was his name from x N
ninety seven. He was like our big villain who mister
Sinister was working for. He was, Oh, he had a
stupid name. I don't like his name. His name feel
like it's like like Ethan or something. No disrespect Ethan
out there listening. But it's just not a name I
would have expected. But anyways, that's the type of character
that I kind of think of and really really like
that villain.
Speaker 2: So I do like the potential of what it is.
Speaker 3: It would make sense for this being like a powerful combatant.
Speaker 2: To these super powerful characters.
Speaker 3: And I mean, if like the fans are really been
wanting that character there has to be, you know, some
solid reasons for it, so I'm pretty excited for it,
even though I don't have any skin in the game.
When it comes to that character, did you find it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I'll do I honestly I did not look.
I I stopped with Ethan. I thought, yeah, I'm just
gonna refer to him as Ethan from now on.
Speaker 2: It's Bastian. That's his name.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, yeah, the almighty Bastian. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Still don't like the name.
Speaker 1: Cool now, I guess there.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: This probably goes hand in hand with what Travis just
telling me, actually, with people kind of wanting to see brainiact,
but him appearing in some concept art with Superman, Supergirl
and Crypto and the Superman Special features kind of stuff
like that. So they're definitely toying with the idea, and
I think they want to get him out there. So
it's it's probably only a matter of time finding the
right kind of IP to make it happen. Ip you now,
I guess right, right character to throw him in with.
But yeah, they've been popping off though, and it seems
like their latest untitled movie is slated for a twenty
twenty seven release. In June. Who knows what that could be,
because when is the Batman Part two coming out?
Speaker 2: To really just lots. I feel like it just got
pinned two.
Speaker 1: Years October first, twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, October twenty twenty seven. God, it feels so long.
Speaker 1: Is that the official frickin' day by one year or two? Yeah? Okay,
so it seems like that is the official day. Yeah.
They keep changing the date, moving the goalposts on that,
so it's hard to keep track.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But anyways, looks like there again we're still on the
DC track record right here, we've got Henchman DC film. Now,
I was supposed to have like a Joker and Harley
kind of theme to it, where it's being pitched by
Zach Kraiger. So basically, you have a low level henchman
in the Gotham crime world who gains notori after managing
to incapacitate Batman through the stroke of luck.
Speaker 2: Uh, So you would.
Speaker 1: Have Batman appearing very minorly and briefly in the movie,
but then you have Harley Quinn a Joker. They're basically
attached to this project as well. So again, whether or
not this Marvel Robbie remains to be seen, but it
seems like, Okay, they're definitely eyeballing. Who's going to be
Joker and Harley Quinn? And this if this movie does
take off, what do you think about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I need a little bit more substance here.
I think I am down to follow follow some villains,
but just like the idea of like a low level henchman,
I don't know, I'm not so against it. I think
I'm of two minds where on one hand, like I
hope this just doesn't make Batman look like a fucking idiot,
like it's just going down the stairs, slips on a
banana peel, concusses himself, you know, and like this is
the start of the.
Speaker 2: Project for you.
Speaker 3: You have this, this this villain that dismantled Batman, Like
when you say it that way, like I I definitely
don't want that. But I don't know if it's done
clever and fun, Like is this gonna be more of
a comedy, It's is gonna be dark and gritty. I
don't know I need I need more than what's just
pitched here.
Speaker 1: But uh, what if I told you it being Zach
Kraiger so Barbarian weapons you know that's the director. That's
the guy, yeah, being pitched by Zach Kreiger. So he's
the one behind those other films.
Speaker 3: I'm more interested knowing that that's the name attached to it.
Speaker 1: And Miss March, I can't forget that two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I remember liking that movie back in the day.
It probably doesn't hold up, but I remember liking it. Ye,
that's actually tangent. Have you ever seen that movie?
Speaker 1: I have, Miss March.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you remember the character Horsetick dot Mpeg.
Speaker 3: That's a very specific that's Craig Robinson's character. He's like
this pimp spoiled for that movie. Yes, he like he
always just talks about how like he just hooks up
with all these like Playboy girls or whatever.
Speaker 2: And the review that he like does not have a
penis in.
Speaker 3: The movie, and they like show it and it's just
like this like this thing with like two straws sticking out.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's probably such a low tier.
Speaker 3: Movie, but that will just forever be ingrained in my
Horsetick dot Mpeg just a funny name. That's like his
rapper name, I think.
Speaker 2: And I love Craig.
Speaker 3: Robinson, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It definitely boosts the interest level, not necessarily the hype level,
you know. Untitled movie slated for twenty twenty seven June.
I'm I'm only gonna be thinking about The Batman when
it comes to that year. I think as long as
nothing keeps getting moved on that one, hopefully not.
Speaker 2: What about you? Are you hyped? Are you excited? Zach
Craigor just came off a weapons review.
Speaker 1: I mean, anything this guy does, it has my full
attention and I'd be really really excited to see And
we're gonna be talking about the Resident Evil thing later
the film roomer part, but him helming a project with
Joker and Harley and just this up and comer henchman
guy who wants to just kind of make a name
for himself and rise up the ranks of the crime
world of Gotham City. Absolutely, I think there's gonna be
so much cool stuff that could be coming out of
a movie like that with a director like that. What
Zach is doing with his films, and again just the
two main ones Barbarian and weapons everyone's talking about is
he has such an interesting way of taking these cinematic
shots and really delivering on the tense, the tension of
these moments. I think it's just fantastic. I can't wait
to see if something does come to fruish at DC
with him doing something like this, because it would be
a very dark project, and I think he is great
at tackling dark storylines and dark narratives but also giving
them a good bit of a comedic twist. And that's
something I really liked about Weapons, is there are moments
where you know it is serious and whatnot, but he
implements these great li like skit level comedic moments, and
I think that's the kind of stuff you want with
with Joker, where it's very serious and it's very freaky
and traumatizing, but he's got this weird comedic beat to it,
and I think a director like Zach could definitely nail it.
So yeah, oh well, let's do you have anything else
you want to add to the DC trainer? Should we
mosey on?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is that it? Yeah? I got nothing else to add on?
Not sure?
Speaker 1: Cool? All right, So we're gonna jump to our last
eye break and we're gonna get back into some film stuff.
So we'll be right back