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Speaker 1: Coldly smokes, we're gonna be sneaking over into Gun's house

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right now because we've got some juicy stuff here. Uh So,

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you know, you know Margot Robbie, right, I think.

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Speaker 2: I've heard of her. She's an actress, right, Ah.

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Speaker 1: You know she Barbie is one that she was in

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very major film, was number one a few years back

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at the box office. So there's a chance she may

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return as Harley Quinn.

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Speaker 2: Do I discuss you discussing? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean what you're talking in riddles? Also because like

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what's the chance? I guess you have to clarify because

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there was a quote by James Gunn. I think somebody

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asked them about the possibility of Mark.

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I thought that was attached to a different note.

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Speaker 2: That's why we're both here, you know, we help each

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the quote from from James gun Or sorry,

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let me backpedal. The interviewer asked him the possibility of

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Margot Robbie returning, and all you said was that will

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be revealed down the line not conforming, not conforming, not

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confirming nor denying.

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Speaker 2: To me, I take that more as like just.

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Speaker 3: Not speaking in absolutes of like no, that's never gonna happen, because, like,

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I don't know possibility of down the line, they want

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to do some crazy their own. They're already kind of

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doing the multiversal thing as we enter into Peacemaker season.

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Speaker 2: Two, but.

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Speaker 3: They, yeah, just just just covering the bases if if

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we eventually want to go down there, I think maybe,

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like you can definitely make the argument.

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Speaker 2: It's more than that.

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Speaker 3: I think I also have personal biases in here where

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prefer them not bringing her back, like to just do

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a full recast, Like I absolutely love her as as

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Harley Quinn. Fantastic casting, and she just really brought her

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a game to that role, like even more so in

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Speaker 2: I think that's kind of the best for.

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Speaker 3: Like, it's all really good, but that like I just

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like that movie the most out of all the ones

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that she's been in. I did like The Suicide Squad,

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but Birds of Prey was something a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: Just memorable to me.

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Speaker 3: I think The Suicide Squad is still a really solid film,

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but the character of Harley Quinn was a little bit

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Speaker 3: I also have to rewatch the Suicide Squad. It's been

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but yeah, I don't know, Like if we're gonna be

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going down this new era of the James Gunn DCU

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with Peter Saffron on the on the sidelines, I would

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prefer them just finding a new actor actress in that role.

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little while, I've been able to see some different versions

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of Harley, whether that's the Harley Quinn Show or the

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like a very different just look of the character, and

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potential of what the character is because in my mind,

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it's like, Okay, you got the version who's always wearing

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different art style and just I don't know, just like

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a darker version of the character I feel, And the

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character is already really fucked up and psychotic, but I

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haven't quite seen, or maybe a different actor portraying the

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role in a different light and I never would have imagined, like.

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just we're in this new era. Let's just put a

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of the character, just for like a fun, fun little cameo,

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but nothing really more than that. But yeah, that's that's

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little remark that James Gunn made in that interview that

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we're kind of dissecting here, But that's my that's my

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overall take on all of that. Do you agree, you disagree?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. The idea, you know, Margot

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picky and choosy, if you know, James Gunn just kind

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of deciding like Okay, We're gonna take you and take

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and by all means, go for it. But I would

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watching us talk about this, So I think I do

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think them using her, I mean again to each his own.

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pass the buck. That being said, yeah, they got the

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multiversal stuff now with Peacemaker, And that's something that's probably

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but then it's starting off in this new you know,

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the new era of DC and whatnot. I get the

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multiversal stuff is supposed to explain that and kind of

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all that kind of dynamic, and it's whatever. I can

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get on board with it, it's fine. But I'm not

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the end of the day, though, Yes, And then the

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Speaker 2: So he's six feet under.

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Speaker 1: He's six feet under. The only joker that's really left

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untapped is what is his name, very Kyogan? Yeah, from

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The Batman Child. Yeah, so maybe Gun wants to line

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him up and then you have a movie with him

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and Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn making out and doing stuff together,

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who knows what. Yeah, it's an interesting rumor.

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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, for sure.

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Speaker 1: That the so next though for Gun, there's been a

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lot of interesting things that's kind of been popping up

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about them. I saw a comment about Gun wanted to

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get things underway for like another Superman project and whatnot.

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super Family. Now, what do you know about Superfamily because

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talking about in the discord GiB Discord, and then I

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was like, Okay, so it's like the the next gen

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kind of thing going at it. Uh, I mean nothing

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like Superman, Supergirl, just the super fam Like, those are

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Speaker 2: Dude, do you have like a roster? I can pull

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Speaker 1: Also, So the leader I have is Superman, and then

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you have Superboy con l Connor Kent. Then you have

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he's a genetic clone of Superman created on the orders

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of Lex Luthor. Okay, I mean we've seen clones.

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Speaker 2: We see that, Yeah, we did, we did.

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Speaker 1: And you have John Henry Iron Steel and Supergirl Cara

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Speaker 3: That's got to be Shack, like not that version, but

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Speaker 1: Where does Shack? Where does Shack come into play?

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Speaker 1: Didn't we we retroed movie?

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Speaker 2: Am I tripping major balls right now? Steel?

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Speaker 1: Is it within nineteen ninety seven?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, detall, it's the Shack movie. There you go.

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I was thinking, how the fuck is Shack Steel? Like

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Speaker 2: I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: Travis, if you're listening, confirmed, he'll he'll, he'll remember, because

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Speaker 2: I feel like I wouldn't have put this on. But

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Speaker 1: My god, he looks so he looks so like uncomfortable

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in this poster. Have you seen are you looking at it?

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Speaker 3: I've seen the movie, so yes, I know exactly what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, heroes don't come any bigger. God damn.

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Speaker 2: Not a good movie, not a good movie whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't look like it because I am because

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lot cooler. He's got like a big Superman ass on

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his chest, and he's got a red cape and everything

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like that. He looks absolutely terrifying. So yeah, those are

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four members. It says Enemies, Cyborg, Superman, allies. They got

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the Justice League. That's a good ally to have. Uh yeah,

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that's the super Family, it seems god.

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Speaker 3: It says Jimmy Olsen is a key member in here.

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I did not love our Jimmy Olsen that we got

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the Superfamily. Jimmy Olsen is a key member. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: What the heck?

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Speaker 3: He's like a major telling me that's what's probably. Oh okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think there's potential here. I think that

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he's done other throw of other superhero films, a sorry,

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films that are not superhero movies, other films, and there's

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lot of them, they basically have like one or two

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protagonists and it's a much smaller kind of crowd. But

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from what I've seen with this superhero stuff, they're all

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big team projects. And I think that he does a

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great job at kind of making sure, hey, I'm not

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falling off the wagon a little bit. I can stay

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on top of these different character arcs and I'm able

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to keep tabs on everything and kind of just jump

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in on the moving train ride and just follow it

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right to the end of the movie. And I think

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that's great. So I don't think it's at a character

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for him to kind of dive into another team movie

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like this that isn't Justice League. Really, I think Justice

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League is something he wants to kind of keep at

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the team was in Superman and then maybe if he's

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doing the Superfamily next or whatever. But is there anything

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else you want to add to the Superfamily or do

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you want to talk about that villain possibility?

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Speaker 2: My only like.

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Speaker 3: I guess holdback that I would have on the Super

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movie and we're gonna be getting multiple projects, Like there's

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already the Supergirl one announced that we know of, is

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like how different is their move set and power set?

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kind of like a lot of super Like projects in

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a row, Like does that kind of get boring if

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we have very similar move sets of just like an

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invincible person Kryptonites, you know, that's the that's the one

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caveat that they can't really get around that. That would

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be my only kind of hold back. But I did

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end up really enjoying Superman. It was a perfect movie,

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but I don't know it was a fun enough dive

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into the part of me hiccups hit me the universe there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you make a good point. I mean,

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how many times can you do a clone really of

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our main headhun show, Like, I just feel like he

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can get kind of repetitive. But again, if he's like

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a little like a younger clone version of him or

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something like that, then maybe we're not done. Well. No,

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in Superman of David corn Sweat. I mean he knocked

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him out into like the ether in between World's glitch

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flowing pool river things out into another dark hole or something,

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so that fucker is never coming back at least yet. Yeah.

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experience with Brainiac is next to nothing, except for the

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fact that I know he's a super intelligent android cyborg

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like creature from the planet Kolu, I believe, and he's

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obsessed with collecting all the knowledge that he can in

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the known universe. I'm not sure exactly how evil he

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is and whatnot, but it seems like he is a very,

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very prominent DC villain, so I'd be excited to see

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him pop up in here, And I think, if I

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remember correctly having conversations with Travis, people have wanted to

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see Brainiac pop into the big screen for quite some

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time here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's got an awesome name.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Anytime you have someone of like a super intelligent cross

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with like some sort of technology infuse, like, I feel

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like that's just a okay, he's gonna be He's gonna

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be a pretty powerful badass, it I've I don't think

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I have any experience with his character, like maybe if

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I yeah, I don't think I have any experience actually

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at all, But just the concept of someone it's like

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super genius like that techno infuse makes me think of,

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Oh my gosh, what was his name from x N

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ninety seven. He was like our big villain who mister

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Sinister was working for. He was, Oh, he had a

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stupid name. I don't like his name. His name feel

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like it's like like Ethan or something. No disrespect Ethan

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out there listening. But it's just not a name I

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would have expected. But anyways, that's the type of character

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that I kind of think of and really really like

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that villain.

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Speaker 2: So I do like the potential of what it is.

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Speaker 3: It would make sense for this being like a powerful combatant.

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Speaker 2: To these super powerful characters.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, if like the fans are really been

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wanting that character there has to be, you know, some

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solid reasons for it, so I'm pretty excited for it,

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even though I don't have any skin in the game.

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When it comes to that character, did you find it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I'll do I honestly I did not look.

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I I stopped with Ethan. I thought, yeah, I'm just

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gonna refer to him as Ethan from now on.

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Speaker 2: It's Bastian. That's his name.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, yeah, the almighty Bastian. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Still don't like the name.

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Speaker 1: Cool now, I guess there.

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Speaker 1: This probably goes hand in hand with what Travis just

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telling me, actually, with people kind of wanting to see brainiact,

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but him appearing in some concept art with Superman, Supergirl

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and Crypto and the Superman Special features kind of stuff

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like that. So they're definitely toying with the idea, and

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I think they want to get him out there. So

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it's it's probably only a matter of time finding the

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right kind of IP to make it happen. Ip you now,

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I guess right, right character to throw him in with.

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But yeah, they've been popping off though, and it seems

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like their latest untitled movie is slated for a twenty

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twenty seven release. In June. Who knows what that could be,

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because when is the Batman Part two coming out?

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Speaker 2: To really just lots. I feel like it just got

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pinned two.

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Speaker 1: Years October first, twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, October twenty twenty seven. God, it feels so long.

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Speaker 1: Is that the official frickin' day by one year or two? Yeah? Okay,

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so it seems like that is the official day. Yeah.

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They keep changing the date, moving the goalposts on that,

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so it's hard to keep track.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, looks like there again we're still on the

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DC track record right here, we've got Henchman DC film. Now,

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I was supposed to have like a Joker and Harley

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kind of theme to it, where it's being pitched by

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Zach Kraiger. So basically, you have a low level henchman

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in the Gotham crime world who gains notori after managing

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to incapacitate Batman through the stroke of luck.

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Speaker 2: Uh, So you would.

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Speaker 1: Have Batman appearing very minorly and briefly in the movie,

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but then you have Harley Quinn a Joker. They're basically

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attached to this project as well. So again, whether or

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not this Marvel Robbie remains to be seen, but it

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seems like, Okay, they're definitely eyeballing. Who's going to be

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Joker and Harley Quinn? And this if this movie does

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take off, what do you think about it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I need a little bit more substance here.

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I think I am down to follow follow some villains,

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but just like the idea of like a low level henchman,

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I don't know, I'm not so against it. I think

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I'm of two minds where on one hand, like I

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hope this just doesn't make Batman look like a fucking idiot,

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like it's just going down the stairs, slips on a

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banana peel, concusses himself, you know, and like this is

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the start of the.

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Speaker 2: Project for you.

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Speaker 3: You have this, this this villain that dismantled Batman, Like

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when you say it that way, like I I definitely

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don't want that. But I don't know if it's done

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clever and fun, Like is this gonna be more of

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a comedy, It's is gonna be dark and gritty. I

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don't know I need I need more than what's just

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pitched here.

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Speaker 1: But uh, what if I told you it being Zach

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Kraiger so Barbarian weapons you know that's the director. That's

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the guy, yeah, being pitched by Zach Kreiger. So he's

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the one behind those other films.

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Speaker 3: I'm more interested knowing that that's the name attached to it.

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Speaker 1: And Miss March, I can't forget that two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I remember liking that movie back in the day.

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It probably doesn't hold up, but I remember liking it. Ye,

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that's actually tangent. Have you ever seen that movie?

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Speaker 1: I have, Miss March.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you remember the character Horsetick dot Mpeg.

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Speaker 3: That's a very specific that's Craig Robinson's character. He's like

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this pimp spoiled for that movie. Yes, he like he

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always just talks about how like he just hooks up

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with all these like Playboy girls or whatever.

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Speaker 2: And the review that he like does not have a

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penis in.

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Speaker 3: The movie, and they like show it and it's just

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like this like this thing with like two straws sticking out.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's probably such a low tier.

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Speaker 3: Movie, but that will just forever be ingrained in my

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Horsetick dot Mpeg just a funny name. That's like his

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rapper name, I think.

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Speaker 2: And I love Craig.

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Speaker 3: Robinson, so yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It definitely boosts the interest level, not necessarily the hype level,

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you know. Untitled movie slated for twenty twenty seven June.

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I'm I'm only gonna be thinking about The Batman when

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it comes to that year. I think as long as

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nothing keeps getting moved on that one, hopefully not.

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Speaker 2: What about you? Are you hyped? Are you excited? Zach

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Craigor just came off a weapons review.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anything this guy does, it has my full

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attention and I'd be really really excited to see And

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we're gonna be talking about the Resident Evil thing later

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the film roomer part, but him helming a project with

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Joker and Harley and just this up and comer henchman

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guy who wants to just kind of make a name

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for himself and rise up the ranks of the crime

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world of Gotham City. Absolutely, I think there's gonna be

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so much cool stuff that could be coming out of

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a movie like that with a director like that. What

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Zach is doing with his films, and again just the

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two main ones Barbarian and weapons everyone's talking about is

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he has such an interesting way of taking these cinematic

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shots and really delivering on the tense, the tension of

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these moments. I think it's just fantastic. I can't wait

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to see if something does come to fruish at DC

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with him doing something like this, because it would be

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a very dark project, and I think he is great

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at tackling dark storylines and dark narratives but also giving

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them a good bit of a comedic twist. And that's

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something I really liked about Weapons, is there are moments

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where you know it is serious and whatnot, but he

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implements these great li like skit level comedic moments, and

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I think that's the kind of stuff you want with

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with Joker, where it's very serious and it's very freaky

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and traumatizing, but he's got this weird comedic beat to it,

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and I think a director like Zach could definitely nail it.

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So yeah, oh well, let's do you have anything else

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you want to add to the DC trainer? Should we

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mosey on?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Is that it? Yeah? I got nothing else to add on?

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Speaker 1: Cool? All right, So we're gonna jump to our last

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eye break and we're gonna get back into some film stuff.

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So we'll be right back